00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1099 points, T:2292, killed by a crossbow bolt 00:00 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 00:02 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "master key of thievery", on T:50300 00:45 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:48 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:52 -!- misha has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 00:52 -!- jan_Misa has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- jan_Misa is now known as misha 00:53 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:59 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Noromagret (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by a panther), on T:17183 01:05 -!- arahael has joined #hardfought 01:10 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:12 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 01:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Noromagret (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:18179 01:54 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:04 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 02:07 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:12 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 02:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Noromagret (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:21306 02:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Noromagret (Val Dwa Fem Law), 50032 points, T:21399, petrified by a cockatrice 02:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:56 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:06 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:11 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 04:12 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2676 04:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:3767 04:51 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 10069 points, T:5598, killed by a crow 05:06 -!- Graznop\OK has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:09 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 05:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:2622 05:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2590 05:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:62802 05:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the Nightmare, on T:63492 05:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3317 05:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2443 points, T:3461, killed by an orc-captain 05:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 517 points, T:1054, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 06:00 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 06:15 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 06:19 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 8399 points, T:2535, killed by a giant spider 06:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 134 points, T:703, killed by a falling rock 06:29 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:34 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 06:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1567 06:41 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 06:44 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:52 rld is rip? 06:54 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 06:56 rougelike 06:56 yep seems so 07:06 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 07:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 Magicbane", on T:3751 07:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:5067 07:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5279 07:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "foo", on T:5474 07:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2016 points, T:2649, killed by a rothe 07:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:8072 07:59 I've messaged MTF 07:59 thanks! 08:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:8226 08:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:8249 08:11 UnNetHack updated (all servers) 08:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10573 08:14 K2: thanks. that validates my decision to push what I had (some commits were already getting mouldy). I'm currently updating the pokedex (is there a specific name for the item pokedex part?) to show infos of un-id items (with really ugly code) but haven't finished yet 08:14 You see a green mold grow on your commit! 08:15 dNetHack updated (all servers) 08:16 heh 08:18 SpliceHack updated (all servers) 08:18 ^ still 1.0.0 08:19 not that many people are playing variants, since tnnt is happening 08:19 yup. great time to update them 08:19 there's a new editlevel version of nethack 3.7 I need to update to as well 08:20 current on server is 43, devteam is already on 45 08:20 damn devteams getting all the scrolls of missing code 08:20 heh 08:21 someone stone to flesh the balrog in the devteam office 08:22 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 08:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1664 08:24 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:9387 08:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:2674 08:27 !rng work | play tnnt 08:27 K2: work 08:27 play tnnt it is! \o/ 08:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 820 points, T:2356, killed by a dwarf zombie 08:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3262 08:30 lol 08:30 inb4 you grind for achivements 08:32 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 08:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 08:32 rougelikes 08:32 woop 08:32 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 08:32 rooguelikes 08:33 ruglikes 08:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4095 08:34 if you add makeup to a variant, is it a rougelike? 08:34 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 08:35 rugbylikes 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:10540 08:35 so, american football? 08:37 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:41 -!- statico has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:41 -!- potato44 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:41 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:42 -!- flgr has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:42 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 08:43 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 08:43 -!- potato44 has joined #hardfought 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 12677 points, T:11220, killed by a baluchitherium 08:44 -!- statico has joined #hardfought 08:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed samiam's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:12339 08:44 -!- statico has quit [Changing host] 08:44 -!- statico has joined #hardfought 08:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:6565 08:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6885 08:53 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 08:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 12405 points, T:6964, killed by a white unicorn 08:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) stole 40 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Wonotobo's general store, on T:12495 09:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Dresser, on T:13729 09:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14453 09:17 -!- potato44 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:17 -!- flgr has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:17 -!- statico has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:18 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 64 points, T:377, killed by a fox 09:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 909 points, T:2332, killed by a pony, while praying 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 44 points, T:253, killed by a sewer rat 09:22 -!- potato44 has joined #hardfought 09:22 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 09:24 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 09:24 -!- statico has joined #hardfought 09:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 483 points, T:957, killed by a bear trap 09:49 <@nabru> !ping 09:49 @nabru: Pong! 09:52 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 09:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Inc Mal Neu), 11856 points, T:24976, killed by an incantifier 10:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:20218 10:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed wmahan's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:3740 10:26 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 10:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:30 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:21543 10:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:3596 10:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4591 11:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3703 11:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:4670 11:02 -!- APic has quit [Quit: [TLS] Client upgrade] 11:02 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 11:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1109 11:05 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:05 spicyCebolla: I think the choice of balrog was meant to be something strong enough to be useful at that stage of the game, but not OP enough to have a serious impact on the late game. I think. If I understood correctly. 11:06 The fact that it's not a steed is significant because it means it doesn't significantly favor roles with riding skill. 11:06 i imagine anyone who tries to actually *use* it will find themselves suffering from being on something like a world of warcraft escort quest 11:06 Oh, and it was made an & for flavor reasons. 11:07 (running around in circles losing your mind while waiting for the NPC to catch up) 11:07 Something that it would make sense in Khor's mind for orcs to worship: a demon made sense. 11:07 spicyCebolla: Eh, people use dragon pets. 11:08 They're speed 9, but they also spend a lot of time eating, which demons don't have to do. 11:08 well, if i port it to splicehack, i'ma try to find something more usable. cuz if it's not meant to be used, it should be a statue of a demon 11:09 Right, it was meant to be something the player could use. 11:09 and if it is meant to be used, it should be at least speed 9 11:09 Or players who didn't want a pet could at least poly it. 11:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4709 11:09 people use Dagul a lot in evilhack 11:10 mobileuser for example 11:10 I mean, a balrog is good enough for things like taking out a shopkeeper or aligned priest, if you are so inclined. 11:11 true. maybe that's the best use 11:11 clear out minetown and then leave it behind 11:11 as you're probably well geared at that point 11:11 I'm open to suggestions for a better pet to make it, as long as balance is taken into account. 11:12 I don't want to make it something like an archon, that would be OP. 11:13 Is nalfeshnee a better pet than balrog? 11:14 Hmm, bone devils are speed 15, but only difficulty 13. 11:14 Dunno. 11:14 Of course, the other option is to just make balrogs speed 12. What could go wrong? 11:15 for completeness, in evilhack "Dagul" is a balrog figurine that I won't activate until I have a magic whistle. Also, it is easy in evilhack to kit out pets. 11:16 also, balrogs are faster in evilhack 11:16 @e?balrog 11:16 balrog (&) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 75 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -2 | Attacks: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical | Alignment: -14 | Flags: flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, infravisible 11:16 speed 12 11:16 what could go wrong :b 11:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 14589 points, T:4158, killed by a hungry dead 11:21 haha 11:21 point proved :> 11:22 idk if balrogs being speed 12 would be bad in general. one doesn't see them until pretty late in the game right? and they tend to be no problem 11:22 Yeah, it actually might be fine. 11:23 I'd want to see the change in a variant whose balance is more vanilla-ish than evilhack, before suggesting it for actual vanilla, though. 11:23 we need more fresh levels just not the apiary and khor's again 11:23 I could try it in Fourk, I suppose. 11:23 amateurhour: Gnomish sewers? ;-) 11:23 something that doesn't make me want to hit that #quit 11:23 :) 11:24 Or, heh, another map that's based on Mimic of the Mines but with the prize spots moved around and different items/monsters. 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:58046 11:24 already exists in slex which I imagine you know :P 11:24 And maybe one that's a duplicate of the Ranger quest home map... 11:24 slex is truly a rougelike 11:25 amateurhour: I don't think I knew that, but it is entirely unsurprising. 11:25 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:58070 11:26 And the Caveman quest home map... more duplicates of that would be great, right? 11:26 what about the Castle of the Gnome King 11:26 just an idea I whipped up in like 0 seconds 11:27 Don't think I know that one. 11:27 Or is it just a concept? 11:27 just a concept 11:27 Ah. 11:27 you could slap in a throne, weapons room, and lots of extra tough gnome warriors or something 11:27 Then how I feel about it greatly depends on implementation. 11:28 easy fresh new mines end concept hot off the press 11:28 "extra tough gnome warriors", right. 11:28 @l?gnome warrior 11:28 gnome warrior (G) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom | AC: 10 | Attacks: 2d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 11:28 okay they're not that tough 11:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:4464 11:28 G is a pushover class by design, I think. 11:29 @v?gnome royal 11:29 No such monster. 11:29 @v?gnome king 11:29 gnome king (G) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 2d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 11:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5178 points, T:4473, quit 11:29 basically the same but without a crown 11:29 They're meant to only be a challenge if the player gets cut off from pet and stairs in an open dark area. 11:30 Which is fine, G are meant to be an abundant-but-not-individually-threatening class, and you have to have such monsters in the game unless you want it to feel like you wander empty halls between solo encounters. 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] verdeescuro (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2638 points, T:2433, killed by a killer bee 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:58527 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law), 732442 points, T:58528, killed by a splash of acid 11:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:43 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1092 points, T:1422, killed by an acidic corpse 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law), 178 points, T:459, poisoned by a little dart 11:50 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] verdeescuro (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, 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luckstone, on T:6890 13:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1689 points, T:2389, killed by a snake 13:07 <@ChaseSP> wonder, anyone else that just goes "fuckit" for price iding anything that isn't immediately useful to know like id/remove curse/enhance weapon or other immediately obvious stuff 13:08 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 13:12 Scrolls are the main thing I usually price ID. In some situations books, if I'm looking for low-level ones. 13:12 Sometimes rings. 13:13 I almost never bother price-identifying potions or armor. Just not worth it. 13:13 Well, cursed magic armor from a bones pile *maybe*. 13:13 Depending on how scarce scrolls of ID are. 13:13 magic armor is often worth a cursory price id 13:13 leave the 30 price boots alone 13:14 I mean, if it's on the floor in the shop very early (say, dungeon level three) and you're trying to decide whether to buy it, sure. 13:14 but I guess buc id >> price id for most armor 13:14 But if I find armor somewhere other than a shop, I normally pet-test it and then wear it. 13:15 (If I care about it at all. Some armor is just junk regardless, of course.) 13:15 (Orcish ring mail, what is even the point.) 13:16 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:16 and then there's the narrow chance of getting burned by noncursed hooa 13:17 That isn't really that big a deal. 13:17 It doesn't permaconvert you or anything. 13:18 If fumbling gear auto-cursed, that would be considerably more of an issue. 13:19 Evil Patch Idea: during the month of October, all weapons, armor, and jewelery auto-curse when worn/wielded. 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3791 13:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Val Hum Fem Neu), 304 points, T:1207, killed by a gnome, while sleeping off a magical draught 13:37 <@ChaseSP> There's so many dangerous scrolls that I really don't read them 13:42 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] verdeescuro (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5224 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] verdeescuro (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5224 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Sam Hum Mal Law), 11596 points, T:5015, killed by a blue jelly 13:48 That's why you identify them before reading them, @ChaseSP. 13:48 Which is why finding a shop is important, so you can figure out which scroll is Identify. 13:48 It all follows from there. 13:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:11308 13:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed arbelf's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:11515 13:54 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:55 <@ChaseSP> By iding mostly I mean, looking for id remove curse and enhance gear 13:55 <@ChaseSP> Every other price I don't bother unless I have 13:56 Right, the scrolls you want to price-ID are the ones with a base value less than 100zm. Identify, Light, Enchant Weapon, Enchant Armor, Remove Curse. The most important one (really the only critically important item) to price ID, is the scroll of Identify. 13:57 If it's worth 100zm or more, you're going to formally identify it eventually, when some blessed scroll of identify gives you the everything-in-inventory result. 13:58 Because every time you read a scroll of identify, you bless it and hold a bunch of unidentified stuff while doing so. 13:58 Sooner or later it all gets identified. 13:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:11728 14:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Mon Clk Fem Neu), 61846 points, T:6550, killed by a sasquatch 14:09 <@ChaseSP> I've yet to get a blessed id scroll getting everything 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] verdeescuro (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7349 14:11 <@ChaseSP> Knowing a scroll you own is 100 is useful because it isn't awful to get the bad ones if read testing, strip drop scrolls and pots, move away and read 14:11 -!- Semilg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:12 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 14:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] hwitnnt (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 543 points, T:1436, killed by a rabid rat 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] verdeescuro (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 23532 points, T:8258, killed by a black dragon 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 873 points, T:1096, killed by a gnome 14:37 -!- jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 14:40 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13516 14:55 -!- elenmirie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Inc Mal Neu), 3619 points, T:6103, killed by a vrock of Moloch 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 11063 points, T:4633, killed by a winter wolf 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered Otis, his faithful little dog, on T:1944 15:24 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1012 points, T:2159, killed by a dwarf, while praying 15:24 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:27 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 15:33 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a runed broadsword named Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:8469 15:34 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a long sword named Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:8500 15:37 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a long sword named Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:8690 15:39 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 37739 points, T:8750, killed by a rope golem, while reading a book 15:51 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:51 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3185 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2148 points, T:3477, killed by a kitten 16:13 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Quit: spicyCebolla] 16:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha), 367 points, T:631, killed by a scroll of earth 16:18 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2215 16:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1343 16:26 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 16:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was given Epoch's Curve, on T:2925 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:4751 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:5134 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 436 points, T:1751, killed by a magic missile 16:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1212 16:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 16998 points, T:5589, killed by an ice vortex 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2224 points, T:6781, killed by Mr. Bordeyri; 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the shopkeeper 19:26 -!- jmcunx has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 875 points, T:1598, killed by a sewer rat 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law), 455 points, T:1160, killed by a wererat 19:34 -!- jmcunx has joined #hardfought 19:39 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 13014 points, T:7218, killed by a warg 19:46 -!- Guest26 has joined #hardfought 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 578 points, T:1398, killed by a rock mole, while frozen by a potion 19:49 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law), 588 points, T:3203, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 19:51 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3125 20:05 <@the_eternal_paradox> has anybody ever tried an anachrononaut extinctionist game? 20:10 <@ChrisANG> The bit where you had to fight 255 Uvuudaums would probably make dnethack extinctionist games even more annoying than typical extinctionist games 😕 20:11 <@riker> new alt game end condition 20:11 <@riker> if you manage to kill that many its treated as an ascension since you're clearly capable of it 20:17 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) stole 366 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kachzi Rellim's hardware store, on T:1640 20:31 K2: are some of my ttyrecs in a different folder, or have the wrong permissions maybe? tryna go through https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spicycat/tnnt/ttyrec/ to find where i stashed some potions 20:33 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 788 points, T:1720, killed by a rothe 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 110 points, T:89, killed by an iron ball collision 20:39 spicyCebolla: ttyrecs older than a day you have to delve into https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/ttyrecs/ 20:39 they get moved to s3 or something 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 192 points, T:971, killed by a falling rock 20:47 <@ChaseSP> Think I'm going to stop going into mines before exca, even with good armor shit goes bad and dunno why 20:47 <@ChaseSP> Also stop eating bees 20:50 <@ChaseSP> Just isn't worth the dice rolls on str pre unicorn 20:54 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 355 points, T:1459, killed by a cave spider 20:56 -!- jonathanhanes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:00 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 21:03 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:08 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:15 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 21:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:19 https://0x0.st/-RrX.jpg <-- ChaseSP 21:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:31 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 616 points, T:2072, killed by a giant bat 21:37 -!- jmcunx has left #hardfought 21:45 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:51 <@ChaseSP> If only bees took charisma and not strength 21:57 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:11 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:11 <@malor> As an Android an extinctionist run should be doable since you can just play forever without worrying about food or recharging. 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