00:00 The exploit is the fact that you can do it just by naming rocks 00:00 <@Shadow_Rider> Looksfar: the website is not working for me, not sure if there's some issues with it atm 00:01 Which, idk if that particular aspect is still possible 00:01 Thanks, Shadow RIder 00:01 thus I'm asking 00:01 hmmm 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3853 00:05 Yep, I'm still getting disconnected fairly frequently 00:05 website is down currently 00:05 working on it 00:05 Thanks, K2 00:06 !who 00:06 K2: [hdf-us] Leggman [nh370] RedArrow [nh370] phoenixe [nh370] bagun [ndnh] Tommo [seed] dnc [slth] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Orcranger [nh370] 00:06 Hey K2 00:06 cathartes: Peeking around and apparently in early Hack sling bullets were 1d6 small and 1d4 large 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2884 points, T:3982, killed by a gnome 00:06 inverse of their last appearing in 2.3e (what I linked you) 00:09 cathartes: http://homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/games/hack/1.0.2-part1 00:10 ^link to the former, open it in a text editor like NP++ and confirm for yourself if you like 00:10 whoa, distributing code via email message, that's old 00:11 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:9258, rt[1:08:25] 00:12 not even, just straight hosted in this case 00:12 yeah, looks like "ldam" and "sdam" had their order reversed, but the object damage values remained in the same order 00:12 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 00:13 ...so was that intended or a typo or... 00:13 suddenly I'm doubtful for no real reason!!! 00:13 90% sure that was intentional, though 00:15 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 71966 points, T:9451, [1:11:59], killed by a minotaur 00:15 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:18 Yeah it's the same in that second archive 00:18 So assuming intentional 00:18 Proceeding accordingly 00:22 in 1.3d, sdam and ldam switched positions relative to Hack 1.0.3. 00:23 But the sling bullet's values remained where they were 00:26 Umbire: I think the reversal in NetHack was intended, and Hack's reverse order was probably unintended. 00:26 Compare the damage values with http://people.wku.edu/charles.plemons/ad&d/misc/arms.html 00:26 That was the other 10%, thus justifying my doubts 00:26 yey 00:32 all - this works https://www.hardfought.org/hterm/ but main page of website is currently down 00:33 database maintenence 00:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:35 Thanks K2, confirming hterm is working for me 00:43 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2610 00:47 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/makemon.c#L1288 Hobbits have a 2/3 chance to get flint as sling ammo, and get sling bullets otherwise 00:47 Is this reading correct? 00:48 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1411 points, T:2837, withered away, while praying 00:49 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bagun (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 44164 points, T:18413, killed by brainlessness 00:50 yep 00:50 !rn2(3) is 33%, lose the ! and it inverts 00:50 Coo 00:53 Inclined to assume is_hobbit also includes player monster ones 00:54 Also correct, offbase, etc.? 00:55 May as well ask that while I'm poring all this over 00:56 i'd search for that function definition 00:56 you want a line that *starts* with that 00:59 Noted. 01:00 ((((ptr)->mhflags & MH_HOBBIT) != 0L) \ 01:00 || ((ptr) == youmonst.data && !Upolyd && Race_if(PM_HOBBIT))) 01:00 #define racial_hobbit(mon) mon_has_race(mon, MH_HOBBIT) 01:00 it weirds me out that rn(2) and !rn(2) do the same thing. coinflip() in dcss is a little more clear 01:01 tho people COULD use !coinflip() in the same way. but luckily they don't 01:01 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/c977f8d2a8e5e96337d4c928d928bb0cbaf40847/include/mondata.h#L227 <- from this, somehow didn't highlight the actual define. 01:01 But yeah, haven't really "learned" how to read includes yet so 01:02 yeah i'm an amateur at this stuff still. but that looks like it covers a lot of bases. if it went to the trouble of checking flags and not just checking for PM_HOBBIT 01:02 Let's see about MH_HOBBIT 01:03 Hm 01:03 My inclination is that it actually only means "standard" hobbits 01:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (arch-liches), on T:14666 01:04 At the least I can't really justify claiming otherwise 01:06 spicyCebolla: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/makemon.c#L1291 This last one's a relative softball, just double checking my work 01:06 Comes out to "they get 5-10 sling bullets" yeah? 01:06 think so. rnd() is on the wiki 01:07 i searched on evilhack repo for racial player, PR 52 looks interesting for whatever you're doing 01:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Abdlabl (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:26310 01:07 (are you trying to painstakingly document how many rocks each monster in evilhack spawns with?!) 01:07 Umbire: check m_initthrow also 01:08 if you are, you might find init_mplayer_erac does... something related 01:08 tmp->quan = (long) rn1(oquan, 3); 01:08 spicyCebolla: lmfao nah 01:08 sling bullets specifcally :B 01:08 Only cases 're monster hobbits and giant Caveplayermonsters 01:09 full website back 01:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Abdlabl (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:26404 01:09 literally burned the midnight oil rebuilding the website 01:09 grats! 01:10 no 01:10 database stuff 01:11 I has ice cream cake 01:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 10188 points, T:7310, killed by a gold golem 01:19 ice cream cake is heresy 01:20 Umbire: your ultimate trial awaits, mortal 01:20 vanilla or chocolate ice cream? 01:20 chocolate if plain, otherwise depends on toppings 01:20 you disgust me 01:20 vanilla ice cream ftw 01:20 * NetSysFire declares war at Umbire 01:22 Last thing to figure out is where pre-3.0.0 versions did role starting inventory 01:24 cathartes: Same as modern or nah? 01:26 Umbire: looks like it, u_init.c 01:26 in 2.3e 01:27 What about like, Hack 01:28 looks like the code is still similar in hack.u_init.c 01:28 hoorah 01:28 Saves me some time 01:30 I'm using http://homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/games/hack/hack-1.0.3.tar.gz btw 01:31 annoying that they're not on the wiki directly 01:31 (mildly so, mind) 01:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Abdlabl (Val Hum Fem Neu), 205810 points, T:28243, killed by a minotaur 01:31 it's linked from the Hack 1.0.3 page 01:32 Just clicked, yeah 01:32 I mean like we have other old source code 01:32 oh, that... it's not too useful for me except for linking a specific line for somebody else 01:33 it's faster to find stuff in the code if you have a local copy 01:33 you can grep for things 01:33 True, but speed isn't a particular concern at the moment 01:33 hm, Hack cavefolk used bows and arrows 01:41 And that continued for a while, interesting! 01:41 Anyhow, think that covers all the sling bullet stuff I can think of for now 01:47 kind of interesting how similar some parts of the code have been for 36 years 01:50 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 01:52 Anyway time to fart around with more stuff about rocks 01:53 spicyCebolla: Before you ask this isn't "painstaking either", the mainpage has the essentials covered, I'm just double-checking variants 02:11 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Zzzzz] 02:27 What's people's favorite weapons for wizard? 02:28 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2168 02:28 -!- Guest2168 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:31 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:31 magicbane 02:41 The magic missile spell. 02:46 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Gia Fem Una), 83793 points, T:30858, killed by a death ray 02:53 I'm a fan of Aesculapius myself 02:53 F 02:53 also hi Muad 02:55 Muad: Hmm. Aesculapius. 02:57 Yeah if you want some measure of 'offense' as a neutral Wiz SoA ain't too bad a wish 02:57 Sadly, I'm usually chaotic, but it's a neat idea. 02:57 Just trying to figure out a better weapon than magicbane. 02:59 <@Shadow_Rider> i crown for stormbringer 02:59 <@Shadow_Rider> wait no 03:00 <@Shadow_Rider> forget that sentence was ever said 03:00 I mean it's not a terribad idea 03:00 Prob. not ideal for arahael's scenario though 03:00 <@Shadow_Rider> i sac eternally until i get stormy 03:01 Chaotic Wiz has MBane first gift, and he usually doesn't play elf to force Stormy 03:01 plus I think you can get unaligned stuff after the first gift 03:01 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah its rough 03:01 <@Shadow_Rider> but there so many sucky ones 03:01 <@Shadow_Rider> the brands are good too 03:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed stone +2 gauntlets of power", on T:2513 03:08 Lucky source? 03:09 For the wish? Yeah, trying to get rid of a cursed wooden dagger by dipping it into every fountain I see. 03:10 But the wish is currently useless, as I still have to get rid of the dagger! 03:10 RIP in pee 03:10 FINALLY! 03:10 unRIP 03:10 Heh. :) 03:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:3051 03:28 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 04:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4521 04:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law), 507948 points, T:30438, quit 04:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:5211 04:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2990 04:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:3001 04:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:7059 04:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3214 04:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:3391 04:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3461 04:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3536 04:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Blueorb (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 222 points, T:912, killed by a goblin 04:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 3101 points, T:4121, killed by a watch captain, while sleeping 04:47 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1453 points, T:3991, killed by a black unicorn 04:54 [hdf-us] [un] picaresquieu (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1812, rt[0:12:19] 04:57 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:11002 05:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 26020 points, T:11870, killed by an Aleax 05:30 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6781 05:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10258 05:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:48 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:54 The baby yellow dragon turns into a master mind flayer! 05:54 having a chameleon pet is scary 05:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 39192319 points, T:333982, went to heaven prematurely 05:54 it turned into a small dog at one point and I tamed it :P 05:57 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 05:57 cbus: lmao nice 06:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 06:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 14780 points, T:13473, killed by a giant mimic 06:01 ugh 06:01 messed up 06:01 it suicided by turning to one of those poison spewing demons 06:01 then it turned into something that died from the poison 06:02 lmfao 06:02 nethack really is the game that keeps on giving 06:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1520 06:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:2899 06:04 hah 06:06 I am glad I took a session yesterday just practising sokoban 06:06 shouldnt mess up as much now :P 06:06 not something i thought of when i added the poison clouds to hezrous 06:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 937 points, T:1887, killed by an ape 06:15 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a stone spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:9571 06:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4767 points, T:4304, zombified by a gnoll witherling, while praying 06:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:22 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 672 points, T:1662, killed by a dwarf 06:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:1245 06:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2266 06:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1263 points, T:1890, quit 06:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) stole 5577 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Enniscorthy's second-hand bookstore, on T:1686 06:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2880 06:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2092 points, T:3196, killed by a dwarf 06:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 522 points, T:1899, killed by a giant bat 06:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3786 06:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an ettin mummy, on T:3910 06:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1166 points, T:1699, killed by an arrow 06:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3483 06:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:01 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4696 07:04 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 7887 points, T:9151, killed by a giant mimic 07:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4700 07:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:5808 07:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7790 points, T:5898, killed by a gold golem 07:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:6005 07:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the human high priest of Moloch, on T:94489 07:11 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1656 points, T:1558, killed by a human watch captain 07:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:94491 07:12 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13470 07:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3147 07:20 -!- kwel2d has joined #hardfought 07:25 -!- kwel2d has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:25 [hdf-eu] [un] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:14500, rt[7:49:37] 07:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:10038 07:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:10074 07:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed RedArrow's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:10187 07:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4844 points, T:10237, killed by a wand 07:37 ugh 07:37 ^ invisible shop keeper in bone file 07:37 nasty 07:38 one more reason to play with bones 07:38 to not* 07:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pri Inc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:27560 07:45 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49 !lastgame torpedojuice 07:49 rebatela: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/torpedojuice/nethack/dumplog/1635071629.nh.html 07:49 got my bone? 07:49 heh. no 07:50 also probably shouldnt have done most of sokoban before heading to gnomish 07:51 but they guy was price id'ing for you. you couldn't have thought the shop was abandoned? 07:51 nope, I thought the shopkeeper was roaming the floor 07:51 so I was gonna get out 07:51 then accidently hit him 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided shocking spheres, on T:94508 08:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pevsand (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered Chomusuke, her faithful kitten, on T:134 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:94827 08:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2514030 points, T:94895, decapitated by a vorpal jabberwock 08:13 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:15543 08:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of drain resistance", on T:73681 08:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3148 08:18 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3656 08:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pri Inc Mal Cha) destroyed the Legion, on T:29924 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:74074 08:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:39 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Nbn Law), 263 points, T:357, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6670 08:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:6706 08:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:47 !ping 08:47 nabru: Pong! 08:53 got the same bone file again 08:53 managed to survive 08:53 shopkeepers stands in the door 08:53 so I just closed and locked the door and survived 08:53 how do I pacify him? 08:53 he gets insta angry when even moving into the shop 08:53 I didnt hit him 08:53 tried tossing $300 but nothing 08:55 -!- pectopah has joined #hardfought 08:56 -!- pectopah has quit [Client Quit] 09:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6898 points, T:7331, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster 09:05 <@Pacra> !lastgame arahael 09:05 @Pacra: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1635073888.evil.html 09:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2189 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:42050 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:75045 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:75057 09:12 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Pri Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3211 09:14 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pevsand (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 213 points, T:947, killed by a crossbow bolt, while fainted from lack of food 09:21 <@Pacra> hey K2, you around? 09:21 <@Pacra> have an eh question : ] 09:22 <@riker> you can also ask the question and see if anybody else knows :p 09:22 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4536 09:24 <@Pacra> I'm at Vecna, tried waking him up with a cursed !oInvis, but he is wisely not biting 09:25 <@Pacra> I'm trying to break into his castle, but striking/forcebolt isn't working, much like the valley drawbridge 09:25 <@Pacra> but... knock doesn't work at all either 09:25 <@Pacra> what am I missing here 09:26 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Pri Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Adept, on T:5274 09:27 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 1756 points, T:5499, killed by a wolf 09:27 !whereis Pacra 09:27 amateurhour: Pacra is not playing. 09:29 wand of striking worked in wizmode 09:29 hrmrm 09:30 there's 50% chance for there to be a secret door into the lair 09:30 along the top wall 09:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 10806 points, T:10392, killed by a horse 09:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:32017 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orion, on T:75507 09:38 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 386 points, T:1278, killed by a coyote 09:39 [hdf-eu] [un] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered the Big Room, on T:16759, rt[8:49:26] 09:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Pir Inc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14776 09:42 striking should just work on the vecna level 09:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Pir Inc Fem Cha), 75917 points, T:15102, absorbing too much energy and exploding 09:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 515 points, T:2473, killed by a giant bat 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:76653 09:55 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 09:55 -!- Guest23 has joined #hardfought 10:02 -!- Guest23 has quit [Quit: Guest23] 10:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1449 10:04 <@riker> absorbing too much energy is a bullshit death 10:15 <@the_eternal_paradox> h u s h 10:16 yay android 10:17 how can i continue my paci healer after minetown 10:17 i didn't get a wish 10:17 should i still continue though, got a tonal and leash so i can do soko at least 10:17 guess i should 10:17 its a chore 10:18 did you do the protection racket successfully? 10:18 can apport-steal for lots of protection 10:18 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:3895 10:18 yeah 10:18 well i could do it even more 10:18 nice 10:18 could leave minetown with -15 AC or so i think 10:18 is there a novel in the book shop? 10:19 no book shop 10:19 monkeytown 10:19 ah 10:19 but really nice shops for once 10:19 happy i got the genstore 10:19 <@riker> @the_eternal_paradox it is! it should top you off rather than exploding u for no practical reason 10:19 no ?oID ided tho which is a bummer 10:20 maybe i will find another genstore or scroll shop on my way down 10:20 maybe you will find a polytrap to get an epic pet with 10:20 or wand of poly in soko 10:20 <@riker> it just incentivizes carrying around random bullshit that's got a +1 on it, let me be less efficient with my food 10:22 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4042 10:22 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Mon Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 26 darts on an altar, on T:4050 10:23 [hdf-us] [slth] nabru (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 268 points, T:168, killed by a dwarf 10:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2223 points, T:2965, killed by an incubus of Anhur, while fainted from lack of food 10:26 !lastgame torpedojuice 10:26 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/torpedojuice/nethack/dumplog/1635084155.nh.html 10:27 [hdf-eu] [xnh] xgamer (Mon Hum Fem Law), 3871 points, T:4288, killed by an owlbear, while fainted from lack of food 10:27 ended up weak without food and fiurst pray failed so mass prayed until death for fun 10:27 :P 10:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pri Inc Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:32751 10:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Purrminator, her faithful kitten, on T:141 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:78149 10:42 <@riker> ^^ cool cat name, i like that 10:42 hehe thanks, messed up bad... 10:43 <@the_eternal_paradox> that's why ndnh is better, you get paralyzed for like a turn or two and lose 500 energy which is obviously preferable to dying 10:43 <@riker> that sounds pretty reasonable 10:44 I guess this run is done now that the god is pissed 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:42478 10:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 681 points, T:1504, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:42518 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Kos, on T:38038 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Filcher, on T:42564 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:40939 11:00 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Wiz Eth Fem Neu), 890 points, T:391, killed by a dwarvish spear 11:00 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7742 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:23295 11:07 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) became Venus' Envoy of Balance, on T:79063 11:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:9503 11:17 <@the_eternal_paradox> maybe should I do the quest wayway later 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:20628 11:18 yeah for sure, the android quest is pretty deadly 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:79092 11:19 I think I did neutral quest first to get telecontrol from silver key 11:21 <@the_eternal_paradox> finally, a role/race that can one-hit kill quinons 11:22 what weapon are you using? 11:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4017 11:22 you can kill quinons with a gun 11:23 <@malor> If you are a wizard - force bolt handles them just fine. Just make sure to stay at range 11:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Gauntlets of Spell Power", on T:24704 11:28 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: reconnect] 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:21378 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 7109 points, T:5784, killed by a vampire lord 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:79365 11:33 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Excavator, on T:41424 11:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2031 points, T:5547, killed by a rothe 11:38 <@the_eternal_paradox> amateurhour: literally any future tech 11:38 <@the_eternal_paradox> also I GOT THE MORDOR QUEST WOOOO 11:38 nice 11:39 I played like a budget monk when I did android, used martial arts and threw future tech for ranged attack 11:43 <@malor> Android is a way better martial artist than a monk. So your budget was HIGH 🙂 11:46 haha true 11:46 silver annulus and basic twoweapon plus combos 11:50 <@riker> i came back from the future to beat the shit out of god with my lightsabers and guns, and i'm conveniently all out of lightsabers and guns. oh well, prepare for fisticuffs 11:50 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 11:51 <@malor> For Android the best approach is bare handed since they can’t do light saber forms and light saber has a habit of getting shut off right when you really need it 🙂 11:51 <@riker> also the absolute best part of the nier:a combos while using bracers, if you have a heavy sword (2handed/zanbato) in your offhand you can whack the bracers like a baseball 11:52 <@riker> that should be a thing in the dnh combo too if its not already 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1501 points, T:503, killed by a fox 11:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:33259 11:58 <@malor> I think the challenge would be ascend Android attacking only with an uncharged force pike. Probably still too easy. 11:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Val Hum Fem Law), 313 points, T:1542, killed by a giant rat, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 11:59 <@riker> malor congratulations you've successfully reduced an android's dps output to like, an arc who isn't running a particularly good weapon. should still be ascendable :P 12:00 <@malor> I am not sure if that’s good on me or bad on me 🙂 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a saber entrusted to her by Odin, on T:22568 12:01 has anyone done a pacifist asc in dnh yet? 12:02 <@malor> I am guessing “no”. 12:02 <@malor> That would be quite impressive! 12:03 <@Shadow_Rider> You could be the first 12:03 malor could definitely do it, but I bet it'd be really annoying and not very fun 12:03 <@malor> Som is the ascension man. My “move” is to go way over the top 🙂 12:04 <@malor> I could not do it. I ascend through over-the-tip methods 🙂 12:04 <@riker> som would probably be the best yeah, som's really good at conduct runs already 12:04 <@riker> pacifist in dnethack also would be.... odd. i'm not sure if bard breaks it already with pet xp 12:04 <@riker> (right now, you get xp if you see your pet kill something) 12:04 <@malor> Every good ascension run with conducts is basically Som: https://nethackscoreboard.org/conduct.dnh.html 12:06 <@riker> lol all vampires are up there since its not hard to keep vegetarian and vegan sorta. same with clk 12:07 <@riker> pretty sure as long as you limit to 'feed on their lifeblood' then it doens't even break foodless. booze can probably do the rest 12:07 r u saying my foodless android is not impressive? my feelings r hurt 12:08 next you'll tell me that a foodless etherealoid isn't impressive smh my head 12:08 <@riker> yes. screw you. you're a horrible person amateurhour. go back to the fuzzer mines 😠 12:08 <@riker> lol 12:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2184 12:11 <@Shadow_Rider> Is juiblex swamp supposed to be the same map every time? 12:11 <@Shadow_Rider> Could have sworn there was no walking path yesterday 12:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Con Vam Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed holy symbol of the black mother", on T:17702 12:11 <@riker> isn't it a mazewalked area? 12:12