00:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nazult (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3465 00:12 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Vagrant, on T:14818 00:31 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 00:31 -!- sodium.libera.chat changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ TNNT 2021, coming soon to a server near you! https://redd.it/q7ol39 00:31 -!- Anerag has joined #hardfought 00:31 -!- bezaban is now known as Guest76 00:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 00:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] oarisetnhdyubnjk (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15196 00:45 yani - magic leash, makes pet actually keep up with you 00:59 [hdf-us] [slth] dnd (Fla Dro Fem Cha), 32647 points, T:5784, quit 01:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:16 [hdf-us] [slth] dnd (Fla Dro Fem Cha), 294 points, T:148, killed by a dwarf 02:11 -!- engelson has joined #hardfought 02:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:15 <@K2> Thanks a lot for the fix DynaHack!!! 02:23 -!- engelson has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:24 -!- engelson has joined #hardfought 02:26 -!- engelson has quit [Client Quit] 02:26 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:36 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:46 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:9062 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 38 points, T:127, killed by a jackal 02:58 Shops on special levels never generate closed, right? 03:00 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:08 depends on the variant, I have seen closed ones in xnethack 03:14 Assume vanilla 03:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Inc Fem Law) killed Shelob, on T:36709 03:29 in vanilla I have never seen a closed shop on a special level 03:43 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 789 points, T:1411, killed by a wand 03:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:20974 03:52 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 04:01 bag of tricks exploding a bag of holding doesn't make sense, just seems arbitrary 04:02 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 04:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 04:02 -!- lorimer has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by remirol))] 04:02 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 04:04 yeah! 04:04 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 04:13 unit327[m]: Makes perfect sense to me. bag of tricks employ the same mechanics to stuff all those animals in it! 04:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] unit327 (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 358 points, T:1417, killed by a wand 04:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4649 points, T:4111, killed by a champion of Crom 04:37 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:48 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:14559 04:49 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:14566 04:49 [hdf-au] [nh370] unit327 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1529 04:51 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 yellow dragon scale mail", on T:14587 04:52 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:14600 04:53 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 quicksilver", on T:14601 04:55 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:14691 04:57 -!- Guest76 is now known as bezaban 05:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:15056 05:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:22 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:22 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 05:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Durin's Bane, on T:16172 05:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] ligang (Cav Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Roamer, on T:48320 05:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] ligang (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:48431 05:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:99223 05:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) stole 9757 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kopasker's general store, on T:1649 05:39 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 tiny white dragon scale shield", on T:17076 05:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2244 05:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:99302 05:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:99303 05:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2076 05:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) was given the Armor of Khazad-dum, on T:17602 05:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2760 points, T:3563, killed by a black unicorn 05:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3806 06:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3378 points, T:4076, killed by a gnoll 06:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] ligang (Cav Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed orb of fate", on T:48984 06:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4259 points, T:4231, killed by a dwarf 06:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] ligang (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 staff of aesculapius", on T:48992 06:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1451 06:07 [hdf-au] [nh370] unit327 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3892 06:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] ligang (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:49335 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2121 06:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:26120 06:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26122 06:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2296 06:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:5249 06:29 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 06:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:27104 06:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Anu, on T:27624 06:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3236 06:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7443 06:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:27911 06:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:27996 06:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf zombie, on T:4622 06:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Val Dwa Fem Law), 19976 points, T:9356, killed by an ochre jelly, while praying 06:51 Why is my carry capacity so low? 06:51 St:10 Dx:12 Co:11 In:21 Wi:12 Ch:11 06:52 I can only have 575 before I'm burdened. 06:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1795 points, T:4129, killed by Cronos' ghost 07:01 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:02 arahael, sounds about right. (10+11)*25+50=575 07:03 you just don't even lift. :( 07:04 Muad: That's only one less con than my max! :( 07:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:18486 07:05 Makes sense, though, I'm used to just a scratch above 600. 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2935 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6166 07:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 15570 points, T:6294, killed by a xorn, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 07:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5019 07:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 10876 points, T:7315, killed by an invisible stalker 07:31 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 07:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:35 -!- chao is now known as stenno 07:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6206 07:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:21489 07:55 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:21604 08:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2045 points, T:1580, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 08:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 676 points, T:1267, killed by a hobbit 08:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the Lady of Pain, on T:22517 08:14 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:22772 08:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3064 08:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1715 points, T:3418, killed by a jaguar 08:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 tiny green dragon scale shield", on T:24329 08:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] ligang (Kni Hlf Mal Law) was given Rhongomyniad, on T:3162 08:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 69 points, T:433, killed by a system shock 08:28 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dwa Nbn Neu), 121 points, T:326, killed by a falling object 08:29 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #hardfought 08:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:30 -!- d[-_-]b is now known as stenno 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) wished for "magic marker", on T:64356 08:35 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:24677 08:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1498 08:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:24796 08:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:24798 08:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:24836 08:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:24860 08:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Garland, on T:24891 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64363 08:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Chaos, on T:24899 08:39 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 08:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64541 08:45 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:45 are we about to witness the first ever non-demon infidel asc? 08:46 (and did I just jinx it?) 08:46 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) performed the invocation, on T:64684 08:47 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #hardfought 08:48 -!- d[-_-]b is now known as stenno 08:48 -!- Semilg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:49 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Carmilla, on T:25280 08:49 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Mina Harker, on T:25281 08:49 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25282 08:49 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25282 08:49 fingers crossed 08:49 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Ilona Szilagy, on T:25285 08:50 why is the alhoon attacking VaderFLAG, i thought it was peaceful 08:50 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:50 -!- engelson has joined #hardfought 08:51 -!- engelson has quit [Client Quit] 08:51 -!- engelson has joined #hardfought 08:52 alhoons do what alhoons do 08:52 heh 08:53 bless you 08:53 VaderFLAG what did you do to the alhoon? 08:53 Altoona (kinda sounds like a sneeze) 08:53 alhoon 08:53 bless you 08:53 heya engelson, and yay \o/ 08:54 it looked like the alhoon got mad he attacked a wraith but maybe I missed something 08:56 :) 08:57 -!- engelson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) imbued the Idol of Moloch, on T:64853 08:59 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed tins of tengu", on T:31219 09:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:31221 09:00 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:2730 09:02 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Jilvane's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:2810 09:04 -!- b93 has joined #hardfought 09:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:26438 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:64697 09:11 <@riker> ^ neat wish. i like that as an item, thats cool 09:15 -!- b93 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:17 alhoonbane 09:17 or flayerbane 09:18 or even zombiebane 09:18 donteatmyheadbane 09:19 le chapeau de mobileuser 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed Lolth, on T:65279 09:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:32314 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance", on T:65296 09:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 8 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32433 09:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Glasya, on T:27241 09:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] ligang (Kni Hlf Mal Law), 1621 points, T:3372, quit 09:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Orion's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:35389 09:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:40103 09:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:33839 09:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 potions of water on an altar, on T:4574 09:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:34049 09:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed unit327's ghost, the former Plunderer, on T:5449 09:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:34210 09:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Kostchtchie, on T:40431 09:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "Blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6187 09:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6354 09:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:36823 09:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed the Avatar of Lolth, on T:40524 09:56 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1945 points, T:2834, killed by a snake 10:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Priest, on T:7064 10:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 26743 points, T:14896, quit 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2711 10:15 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 10:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Baalphegor, on T:41461 10:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed Mephistopheles, on T:41461 10:19 bribery gone wrong 10:20 chris_ang read Faust 10:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8711 10:21 And here I am, for all my lore, The wretched fool I was before 10:21 the core of the poodle 10:22 stenno are you gonna try beat your tnnt 2020 score? 10:23 depends a bit but i will certainly try the all roles trophy 10:23 i did a 'perfect' 13 roles 5 races 3 align 2 gender run last december so i will take the same route this time 10:23 nice 10:24 -!- krm26_ has joined #hardfought 10:25 [hdf-us] [slth] dnd (Fla Dro Fem Cha), 3217 points, T:1137, quit 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 6621 points, T:5143, poisoned by an orcish arrow 10:27 going to try a few conducts too 10:27 maybe yolo a paci when there's time left 10:27 I probably won't play as much as last year 10:27 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:28 probably just gonna do the roles I haven't ascended yet (barb, rogue, valk) 10:28 not sure how I've not done a valk on a public server honestly 10:28 personally I am gonna try some of the trophies 10:28 have you been avoiding barb and valk? two of the easiest roles 10:29 probably great human since it has tourist in it 10:29 and I love tourists :D 10:29 tourists are squishy but once they get rolling they are terrific 10:29 I guess I've just been playing too many monks and didn't get around to them 10:29 the progression i worked out in december gives you the maximum possible points for 13 wins 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 375 points, T:917, killed by a kitten, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 10:30 or maybe I will go for tourist and then just go random 10:30 hope they didn't change the point system lol 10:30 * hothraxxa snickers 10:30 :x 10:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed Lamashtu, on T:41931 10:31 great human is a fun one to do for sure 10:31 The Great seem a bit boring though tbh 10:31 better with the races since you get multiple roles 10:31 yeah it's not really worth the time either 10:32 maybe they should be bunched together with like "The great melee tanks" 10:32 and such 10:32 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 10:32 "The great squishies" :D 10:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:10051 10:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:35462 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1271 points, T:2677, killed by an invisible dwarf 10:40 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:40 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) murdered his faithful cobra, on T:66217 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a square amulet on an altar, on T:3866 10:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Tymora, on T:41034 10:42 maximum points in 13 ascs for tnnt 2020 was: 10:43 * amateurhour holds breath 10:43 kni, tou, dwa arc, orc rog, elf pri, dwa cav, orc ran, orc wiz, gno hea, law mon, orc bar, sam, dwa val 10:44 oh I thought you were gonna give the score for doing that 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 232 points, T:793, killed by a bat 10:44 <@Shadow_Rider> How you gonna compare to last year 10:44 so you get greater orc, hum, dwa 10:44 <@Shadow_Rider> If there’s no points anymore 10:44 there are no points? 10:45 there's no point to anything :( nethack isnt real :(( 10:45 i asked K2 a few days ago and he said there was no change in the scoring system 10:45 <@Shadow_Rider> Well aosdict and aoei have been taking about it for a while 10:45 <@Shadow_Rider> If they can’t code it in time then points are back on the menu I guess 10:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed xororand's ghost, the former Priest, on T:11655 10:46 well that's interesting either way 10:46 i wont play in tnnt if there are no player points 10:47 I'll compete with you for most achievements or something stenno 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1991 10:47 <@Shadow_Rider> It would just be leaderboards for each category 10:48 <@Shadow_Rider> Bunch of people unhappy but they want to give it a try for at least this year 10:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42231 10:48 what categories? 10:48 people are afraid of change lol 10:49 has anyone written up what the draft changes are anywhere? it'd be interesting to read about it 10:49 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 181 points, T:739, killed by a tower of flame 10:49 there was a reddit post about it 10:49 you can also hang out in #tnnt and #tnnt-dev where discussions are happening 10:49 <@Shadow_Rider> aoei are you guys on track to finishing in time? 10:50 is it this one? https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/q7ol39/the_november_nethack_tournament_2021/ 10:50 or is there another post 10:50 so far yes Rider 10:50 <@Shadow_Rider> Dang it 10:50 idk amateurhour i just know K2 posted something 10:50 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4588 10:50 <@Shadow_Rider> Just kidding nice work 10:50 im focused more on getting the codebase up and running than PR im afraid 10:51 we're still vaguely toying with the idea of tacking on points to the new python backend but that's out of scope for MVP 10:51 <@Shadow_Rider> Gotcha makes sense 10:52 makes sense to not rly have points I think 10:52 <@Shadow_Rider> MVP is the goal this year at this point 10:52 amateurhour: i also think so but since many people are unhappy, especially if they still report this in teh post-tourney feedback 10:52 we may have to bow to pressure lol 10:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:42682 10:53 im hoping some people who complain now end up having lots of fun still and feel differently when they make the feedback after the tourney 10:53 let's see :) 10:53 <@Shadow_Rider> I bet it will be a lot of fun 10:53 I don't see any complains on that reddit post 10:53 <@Shadow_Rider> But I probably will still request a change at the end :D 10:53 lol fair enough 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Mon Hum Fem Law) destroyed arbelf's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:2351 10:54 amateurhour: i guess the other thing to keep in mind is that if N people complain about M people don't say anything 10:54 it may feel to me like there is a strong feeling against it 10:54 but in fact it's not necessariy a majority or even close to 10:54 which i guess is why making actual surveys etc. is important 10:55 just yolo it and have no points to encourage people to have fun instead of metagaming 10:55 OOPS ran out of time to add points 10:55 :)) 10:55 ;o 10:55 :))) 10:55 i don't want to have fun, i want to compete 10:56 so compete for fastest realtime 10:56 compete for lowest turncount 10:56 what if BOTH score systems were visible, but last year's scoreboard was designated as unofficial 10:56 compete for most ascensions 10:56 there's a lotta stuff to compete for 10:56 i hadn't thought about stenno's use case, where in the old system you could checklist certain things to help your team even if you weren't in the running for best player on board foo 10:57 -!- Looksfar68 has joined #hardfought 10:57 altho probly some of stenno's ascensions were redundant, under the old scoreboard, cuz that race/role had already been done by someone else on the team 10:57 This is annoying. As far as I can tell I'm not logged on anywhere else, but I keep getting stuck with these numerical variations. 10:57 spicyCebolla: can still do this for great Foo 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) entered the Planes, on T:66866 10:57 we could potentially implement per-player best-of-13 type stuff 10:58 and per-clan 10:58 then i will make my own clan with only myself in it 10:58 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:66867 10:58 Looksfar: Looksfar68 10:58 already have that kind of stuff in junethack 10:58 ^ both logged in 10:58 stenno: do you need some beer to go with that salt? 10:59 Looksfar68: do /msg nickserv help GHOST 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1559 points, T:1793, killed by a dwarf 10:59 Will do, thanks spicyCebolla 10:59 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:27576 11:00 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:00 regain > ghost 11:00 -!- Looksfar68 has quit [Client Quit] 11:01 -!- Looksfar has joined #hardfought 11:01 That's better. Thanks again, spicyCebolla! 11:02 aoei: if people demand points, I'm taking my hands off the backend. I'm not getting into the whole score-balancing debacle again. 11:02 well let's hope they don't then lol 11:02 i don't want to do that by myself 11:03 its all good if at the end of the tournament there is a single table where players are ranked by their performance 11:03 that is precisely the problem 11:03 i don't really care how the points there are balanced 11:03 I've not been around for a tournament before, how does that work? 11:03 we do the whole clan thingy in junethack already 11:03 there are so many ways to be good at nethack that it's impossible to reduce everyone to a single number, fairly 11:03 everyone with more points than me is a tryhard and everyone with less is a scrub 11:04 yes indeed 11:04 i want to talk banter like that 11:04 really liked my race against jilles last time 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Mon Hum Fem Law), 5232 points, T:2934, killed by an ape 11:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:66734 11:04 everyone who is more shit than me on the leaderboard for most ascensions is a scrub 11:04 one of the original goals of tnnt was to produce a tournament where players who aren't serial ascenders had reasons to play 11:05 thus clans 11:05 replace most ascensions with some other category 11:05 determind others to be scrubs 11:05 hothraxxa: wasn't that the goal of junethack though 11:05 because you can contirbute to your clan's success with achievments 11:05 it still works 11:05 hothraxxa: the goal is irrelevant 11:05 stenno: well if you want a leaderboard leaderboard, that's doable by summing one's ranks on all leaderboards 11:05 or rather, the original goal is irrelevant 11:05 i thought junethack was to encourage variant play but i'll let bhaak speak to that 11:05 junethack is for finding bugs 11:06 the goal now is: tnnt exists, let's keep it going as a thing 11:06 !role 11:06 Looksfar: nh370 priest 11:06 but write in python because perl is trash 11:06 an duse that as an excuse to make disruptive changes to the way it works as a tournament 11:06 don't you write perl for money 11:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:42503 11:06 experiment ont he community, haev fun tiems, collect feedback 11:06 amateurhour: yes and it's horrible 11:06 hothraxxa: you can also speak to me because i was also a part of the original junethack devteam 11:06 not seeing how that goal is irrelevent, but you saying that makes me understand some of the going on 11:06 i don't want to do it in my personal/community projects too 11:06 +s 11:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43437 11:07 plus, its basically me and aosdict working on this, nobody besides me knows how to Perl and nobody wants to Perl 11:07 I refuse to perl 11:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 94160 points, T:14053, killed by a displacer beast 11:07 i just stand around and look pretty 11:07 running the old scoreboard in parallel to tnnt is interesting but you'll have to figure out how to get the clandb.sqlite file 11:07 <@Shadow_Rider> If you guys can’t add some of these features by tnnt start would it be possible to add them during November 11:07 im making my own tournament called the novemberer nethacker tournamenter 11:08 its just devnull 11:08 @shadow_rider I would rather play tnnt in november than continue to add features. hence the push to finish this month 11:08 if there are bugs, that's a different story of course 11:08 the third week of october is when tnnt dev work traditionally starts so things are on track 11:08 don't worry about it 11:09 kek 11:09 if people want to make PRs, they're welcome to 11:09 nhtng patch is getting updated for 3.6 and applied to tnnt this year, right? 11:09 <@Shadow_Rider> Ok I getcha 11:09 haha nhtng patch would be so busted 11:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:43500 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed Famine, on T:67056 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the saddled barded Black Horse, on T:67057 11:11 oh snap 11:11 black horse was barded 11:11 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:27754 11:11 sounds overpowered, a guaranteed source of barding? smh my head 11:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:44449 11:12 not guaranteed 11:12 just a chance of 11:12 * hothraxxa sees redundant smh as smash, smashes amateurhour's head 11:12 rip in peace :( 11:13 * hothraxxa chuckles 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the high priestess, on T:67081 11:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:45503 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) put Death down for a little nap, on T:67127 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:67128 11:22 aoei: pm? 11:23 i got dragonhide jumping boots on dlvl 1 11:23 she's doing a post-work speedrun afaik 11:24 NetSysFire wooop 11:26 is hothraxxa a gremlin 11:26 !8ball is hothraxxa a gremlin? 11:26 NetSysFire: Very doubtful 11:26 a gurmlin 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Mal Una), 6705984 points, T:67161, ascended (with the Idol) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1634075511.evil.html 11:26 gratz VaderFLAG !! first ever non-demon infidel asc?? 11:26 wow 11:27 \o/ 11:27 nice 11:27 what does infidels get for stuff? 11:27 never played evilhack :) 11:28 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Tomsod/YANIs_and_patches/Infidel 11:28 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#New_player_roles 11:28 thanks 11:28 Tomsod created infidel role, it was added to evilhack (with some modifications to fit the variant) 11:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:45660 11:28 My verdict is that infidels are incredibly fun and a well-thought-out challenge, thanks Tomsod 11:29 and thx K2 for excellent evilhack integration 11:29 yeah it fits in really well with evilhack 11:29 thanks! all the player feedback was a big help, so thank yourself too :P 11:29 k2, thanks for server! :) 11:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Pri Inc Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Camaxtli, on T:45679 11:29 thanks everybody! 11:29 except Demo 11:30 f that guy 11:30 :P 11:30 yeah i was just thinking about how nice it must be to have people that actualyl play and dont complain 11:30 and then im like nahhhhh that sounds no fun 11:30 lol 11:30 (that was my water plane thought by the way) 11:30 no complaints? amateurhour please set Demo straight 11:30 hahah 11:31 team whine 11:31 The gnome zombie moans. The gnome zombie is mildly chilly. 11:31 \o/ 11:31 huh i just thought of something 11:31 you can put the idol of moloch into a container right? 11:32 can you? I thought it was treated like invocation artifacts 11:32 i dont remember 11:32 it should behave like the AoY in that regard 11:32