00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +3 fireproof boots of speed", on T:1371 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +3 fireproof gauntlets of power", on T:1381 00:03 -!- katya has joined #hardfought 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +3 fireproof Grayswandir", on T:1427 00:15 [hdf-us] [slth] dnd (Fla Dro Fem Cha), 4330 points, T:2010, killed by a white unicorn 00:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:65618 00:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased wand of death", on T:65624 00:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Premium Heart", on T:16461 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of unchanging", on T:58535 00:26 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:16827 00:27 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:16828 00:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:16831 00:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:42, on T:66654 00:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Jilvane (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:66657 00:33 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 tiny yellow dragon scale shield", on T:16888 00:39 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:17086 00:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7315 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2418 00:48 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 10006 points, T:3867, killed by Mr. Izchak, the shopkeeper 00:50 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 0 points, T:9, killed by a kobold 00:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby crocodile, on T:12478 00:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bagun (Bin Sym Mal Non), 44910 points, T:9866, burned by a balrog's explosion 00:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:57 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:17952 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:63176 01:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:8752 01:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 5332 points, T:2868, killed by a baby gray dragon 01:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13258 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Cav Dwa Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:63285 01:19 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Cha) killed the invisible Lady of Pain, on T:19226 01:20 Can I eat pets? 01:21 Wiki seems to suggest I can, as long as it's not a "pet species", so my pet nightmare is fine to eat. 01:21 Yep. 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zahnbrueste (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed arbelf the human mummy, and former Cutpurse, on T:2027 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Cav Dwa Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap (5 times), on T:63324 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zahnbrueste (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1045 points, T:2081, killed by a Zahnbrueste the human mummy of Zahnbrueste 01:33 [hdf-us] [slth] dnd (Fla Dro Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:2936 01:34 I always seem to pick the wrong altars 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2663 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1382 points, T:2672, killed by a soldier ant 01:36 Hmm? 01:38 On the Astral Plane, I usually end up having to visit all 3 to find the right one 01:40 Ah - bad luck, then. :) 01:40 I don't think there's any real way of guessing. 01:40 We call that "the full tour". 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:63414 01:49 I like that...maybe "The Grand Tour" would be even better. 01:59 grats on the ascension looksfar44 01:59 Hey, thanks! It's really just the normal Looksfar, I just forgot to logout somewhere :) 02:00 :D 02:00 on 43 machines! 02:01 Heh, maybe not quite that forgetful. 02:01 I did manage to blow up a BoH on this run, I was saved by the new mechanics and the fact that I didn't have much in it at the time. 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 4106831 points, T:63464, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Looksfar/nethack/dumplog/1633969098.nh.html 02:02 I'm not super fond of the caveman role, but that run went reasonably well. 02:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:25433 02:03 Crap, I angered a priest by mistake. 02:03 How can I pacify them? 02:03 Can you charm monster? 02:03 Or have a scroll of taming? 02:04 wait I killed her 02:04 interesting 02:04 I guess she killed herself before I even noticed her 02:04 Angry guard, too... 02:04 Looksfar44: Not that I know of, no. 02:04 Presumably this is in Minetown? Best to get out of there then. 02:04 Indeed. I guess I have to run, then. 02:05 cbus if you have reflection and you're not currently invisible, she'll stone herself with her own gaze. 02:05 I do 02:05 I just usually notice her before she goes dead :P 02:06 Yeah, it startled me the first time that happened. I'm usually invisible by the time I get to her, so I hadn't noticed. Makes perfect sense from mythology though. 02:06 Anyway, I'm off...take care, folks! 02:07 -!- Looksfar44 has quit [Quit: Looksfar44] 02:07 is it ok to sacrifice stuff on an altar between medusa and castle? 02:07 nothing weird right 02:07 <@Shadow_Rider> Yes 02:07 good just making sure :) 02:07 Ooh, I might be able to live with this in minetown, I've just killed the watch captain. 02:07 <@Shadow_Rider> Also Gratz looksfar 02:08 <@Shadow_Rider> Arahael try not to kill too many of them lol 02:08 <@Shadow_Rider> The luck penalty is harsh if it’s still early on 02:08 <@Shadow_Rider> Unless you a wild one 02:08 * arahael wails: "But they aren't peacefuls!" 02:09 Three down... 02:09 yo arahael 02:09 mermaid: Hey. 02:10 u playin evil? 02:10 Yep. 02:11 I think that's four watchmen down. Pet did two of them in. 02:12 nice 02:12 whats this about luck penalty tho 02:12 is that a thing in evil for killing watchemn 02:12 greased cloaks protect against eels right? 02:12 cbus: ya 02:12 I think it's vanilla. Killing peacefuls in general causes a luck and alignment penalty. 02:12 the wiki didnt mention it but I remember it being so 02:12 Which reminds me, the alignment penalty is significant for evil. 02:13 Hmm, so I do badly need to tame this priest. 02:14 no\ 02:14 in vanilla you don't get a luck penalty for killing watchmen 02:14 only the shks 02:14 watchmen don't count as 'always peaceful' in the same way, pretty sure 02:15 Oh? Hmm, maybe it's only an alignment penalty, then. 02:15 <@Shadow_Rider> Nah 02:15 <@Shadow_Rider> It’s still murder 02:15 i think its just alignment 02:15 Shadow_Rider: I don't have the murder penalty, I'm not human, and I'm chaotic. 02:15 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh well in that case 02:15 oh huh 02:15 wiki says you're right 02:15 <@Shadow_Rider> There’s no problem lol 02:15 ah yeah, for chaotics murder is totes fine :) 02:16 altho still gives an alignment hit 02:16 <@Shadow_Rider> Meh when has anyone ever cared about alignment 02:16 <@Shadow_Rider> (Has died because of low alignment numerous times) 02:16 Shadow_Rider: It's important in evil. 02:17 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh is it? 02:17 Shadow_Rider: If you abuse your alignment before you do the quest, the quest leader can ask you for the artifact back. 02:17 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh yeah lol 02:17 <@Shadow_Rider> I definitely ran into that issue 02:17 lol jee 02:17 jeez* 02:17 <@Shadow_Rider> Quest leader same dumb ai though so cheesing is not too difficult 02:30 can I easily check if I am stealthy? 02:31 <@Shadow_Rider> Put on stealth ring elf boots or cloak 02:31 <@Shadow_Rider> If no message then you stealthy 02:31 You move more quietly 02:31 so I guess not 02:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:27329 02:39 Is taming the only way to pacify a priest? 02:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:27855 02:45 And/or charm monster, but you won't be able to get services from them again I think 02:46 So there's no way of being able to ask for protection? 02:47 I guess I should consider that temple as good as lost, then./ 02:47 Blegh. This mines end is the rat king. 02:48 Most difficult mines end, imho. 02:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:28348 02:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:28790 02:58 fucking hell, those hotkeys to select all is way too close 02:58 I always fat finger them 03:02 Hmm. :) 03:06 Hmm, I should just kill that priest with my pet. 03:08 Bah, pet's not even trying to attack it. 03:11 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 30831 points, T:16245, killed by an orcish priestess of Anhur 03:12 Ok, lesson learned: Don't stuff about with an angry priest. 03:13 but why tho 03:13 just asking for trouble 03:14 Umbire: I really badly needed the altar. 03:14 I should've goten the hint when the pet didn't attack it. 03:15 That'll be a super nice bones, though, if it becomes one. 03:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:24 This next game shoudl be awesome :D 03:24 I guess I am gonna use snickersnee 03:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:33163 03:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:35342 04:00 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Rog Vam Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1484, rt[0:09:18] 04:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:36301 04:05 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Rog Vam Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2061, rt[0:14:16] 04:15 Practically *starting* with a spell of identify is a luxery. 04:26 -!- Guest96 has joined #hardfought 04:26 -!- Guest96 has quit [Client Quit] 04:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2218 points, T:5986, killed by a soldier ant 04:35 do I need reflection for samurai end boss? 04:35 (I want "oLS) 04:37 reflection is more important than "oLS 04:37 even though he can oneshot me? :P 04:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:38 Then you're not ready to fight him yet! 04:38 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 2536 points, T:2269, quit 04:39 so you are saying to skip the quest? 04:39 I have orcus wand of death 04:39 didnt think you could ascend without :P 04:41 I'm suggesting maybe leave the quest for a bit later. 04:41 I have cleared almost entire gehennom :P 04:41 OOooh. 04:41 b 04:41 yo deltarune is the shit 04:41 cbus: And your quest can still one-shot you!? 04:41 yes 04:41 it is the quest artefact 04:41 :P 04:41 there is no way around it except "oLS 04:42 The Tsurugi has +2 to-hit and deals +d8 bonus damage; it additionally has a 5% chance to either instantly kill an up to medium-size monster (or any monster engulfing you) by bisection, or else deal double damage to a large monster. 04:42 Oof. 04:42 see my worry now? :P 04:42 Can you poly him? 04:42 I can oneshot with /oDeath 04:42 if I get lucky 04:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dragonbait (Val Dwa Fem Law), 20730 points, T:8942, burned by molten lava 04:46 about to do it if you want to watch 04:47 torpedojuice on eu.hardfought 04:47 will probably use "oLS 04:47 and hope for a zap 04:47 unless he wakes up early then I will have "oReflection on... 04:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:40636 04:48 first zap missed 04:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40640 04:49 !rng nap tnnt nhs 04:49 mermaid: nhs 04:49 fuck 04:49 ok 04:49 !8ball will i nap later? 04:49 mermaid: Better not tell you now 04:49 huh 04:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:41270 04:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:41282 04:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3716 05:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1225 points, T:2993, killed by a dwarf queen 05:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:41524 05:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:41840 05:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedojuice (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:41906 05:07 are any of tohes better than snickersnee? 05:08 idk depends 05:08 waht is a tohes 05:09 the 2 lines right abmove me 05:09 sunsword and demonbane 05:09 I accidently blew up excalibur :P 05:09 oh 05:09 those 05:09 nice typo :D 05:10 also i filter most of the botspam thanks to qt's lovely script 05:10 i assuem Beholder announced your gifts yeh 05:10 also eh they all suck 05:10 yeah 05:10 Snickersnee is not too bad 05:10 yeah fully aware that they are not the best 05:10 * mermaid would probably use snickersnee tbh 05:10 trying to sacrifice for one last 05:10 it's like 05:11 yeah that is what I am thinking of 05:11 nearly as good as excal 05:11 iirc 05:11 * mermaid checks 05:11 I am at the point where I will enchant stuff up and head for ascension run 05:11 yeah, snickersnee gets +d8 bonus vs all 05:11 excal gets +d10 bonus vs all 05:12 snickersnee has slightly higer base damage for small mons 05:12 so... there's actually not a huge diff 05:12 BUT 05:12 no drain res 05:12 exactly 05:12 already too high level 05:12 could benefit of dropping a level or two :P 05:12 well time to enchant it up 05:13 Snickersnee: the poor folks Excal replacement 05:13 its p good tho 05:13 lets look at Demonbane and Sunsword... 05:13 oooo its actually a double damage arti 05:13 Demonbane i mean 05:13 but ofc only x2 vs demons 05:13 base type is longsword so good base damage too 05:14 i'd still prefer bonus vs all but when you're actually fighting in gehennom that double dam would be nice 05:14 depends if you can be arsed to tug it along and switch weapons 05:14 sunsword double dam vs undead 05:14 just annoying that I blew up all my unholy water 05:14 actually pretty epic for the valley 05:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Abdlabl's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:6176 05:15 but like do you really wanna go to the trouble of having 3 artifact weapons on you and enchanting them all up 05:15 i think the only weapon that gives double dam vs all is Grayswandir 05:16 might actually end up wishing for unholy water later 05:16 to curse some confuse monster 05:16 don't wish for it 05:16 dip water in fountains 05:16 not many left and going to gehennom :P 05:16 (BUC id the water first) 05:16 oh ok fair 05:16 still 05:16 don't wish for it 05:16 split a big stack of water and read blessed remove curse while confused 05:17 works best if you are by an altar so you can BUC everything afterwards, also good to have a second blessed remove curse scroll to read after you're no longer confused, to uncurse the stuff you don't actually want cursed 05:18 this is the go-to method for atheists to access holy and unholy water 05:18 tho you have to luck into some blessed scrolls or wished for a blessed marker 05:23 cbus: actually the fact that Sunsword is a permanet light is kinda pog 05:23 premanent* 05:23 permanent* 05:23 lol 05:25 I have a magic lamp though :P 05:25 oh 05:26 eh i was thinking more for me anyway 05:26 i never have spare magic lamps 05:26 so having sunsword would be cool 05:26 I found it in orcus or something 05:26 I have 1:3 on the castle wand 05:26 if for some reason i don't have excal 05:26 yeh but you're also not speedrunning right 05:26 nope 05:26 so you prolly have heaps of loot 05:26 just trying to win all roles :_P 05:26 I had 05:26 before I fucked up my BoH 05:26 ouch 05:27 fat fingering by selecting something and selecting all. 05:27 well 300hp and 5 full healing to spare 05:27 taking a break then vlad and dive 05:27 !tell K2 copying configs to TNNT using the dgl feature doesn't seem to work 05:27 Will do, mermaid! 05:27 I do lack conflict 05:27 and havent had any poly wands I think 05:27 conflct ain't what it used to be :( 05:27 or I could polypile my huge stash of rings 05:28 trying to win all roles in tnnt? 05:28 nah 05:28 just normally 05:28 finally a worthy challenger 05:28 oh 05:28 hahaha 05:28 will see how many wins I will have time for in tnnt 05:28 you got stenno all excited 05:28 and now look at him ._. 05:28 I could tyr but will see how much time I have 05:28 stenno: who's on your team so far 05:28 so far since I got back after like a 15year break I have done hmm 05:28 Cav, Val, Bar, Tou, Rog 05:28 poggies 05:29 gj cbus 05:29 muad and billdacat 05:30 oh shit 05:30 maybe i can convice anselmus to play a bit after all 05:30 the pesky cat >:( 05:30 i assumed he'd be nethack ninja turtles 05:30 he played with aosdict last year 05:30 but fair enough 05:31 aosdict might want to play in my clan this year 05:31 ooooh 05:31 interessant 05:31 im gonna be order of the chickatrice 05:31 ootc is too big so we're gonna end up split over 3 clans lol 05:31 ok lol 05:32 or i could do another epic anime betrayal and join team stenno 05:32 sure you could 05:32 but that would be dumb because im fighting billdacat for tc 05:32 but wouldn't you want - 05:32 yeah 05:33 my clan is called OK. 05:33 is it Onyo Klan 05:33 no onyo 05:33 wait that could read as a KKK ref 05:33 maybe not a great idea 05:33 to use that spelling of clan 05:33 lol 05:33 its just OK. 05:33 it doesn't stand for anything? 05:33 Hmm. A snickersnee. 05:33 just OK. 05:33 with the . 05:34 i assume the . is important 05:34 part of the name 05:34 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:34 yes 05:34 https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/614VmsFwoNL._AC_SX450_.jpg 05:34 * mermaid is thinking about practicing for tnnt on the beta version 05:34 stenno: :D 05:34 nice 05:34 imagine not winging tnnt 05:34 well, we're winging the web backend 05:35 so i can practice for the game 05:35 i will most likely get 2 weeks of vacation for november so there will be a no-life situation most likely 05:35 wow 05:35 yea i dont have enough vacation days to pull anything like that unfortunately 05:35 * mermaid checks... 05:36 still got 20 days for this year lol 05:36 gotta cram that shit into november and december 05:36 stenno: "A no-life situation!?" 05:36 stenno: What do you mean? That's RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF TNNT! :D 05:37 arahael: he is trying to suggest that playing nethack constantly for a couple of weeks amounts to not having a life ._. 05:37 'no-life' as an attitude to playing a game, i.e. just play the game without participating in normal life 05:37 like i did last year which was a bit insane 05:38 no sleep, no social, just nethack 05:38 not even sleeping? D: 05:38 that sounds unhealthy 05:38 it is, but its just for 2 weeks 05:38 tbh i possibly was on meth for some part of last years tnnt <.< 05:39 that helps 05:39 none of that this year tho! 05:39 * mermaid is staying clean 05:39 gotta keep it clean 05:39 ouch 05:39 * mermaid actually has better kps and reaction times clean too 05:42 i was also unemployed last november and had more time for gamin' 05:43 -!- mermaid has quit [Quit: brb server reboot] 05:44 Eh, sleep is important. 05:44 not for the two-ish weeks of competitive nethack each year 05:45 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 05:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aoei] by ChanServ 05:45 yo 05:45 guess i will go for all 13 roles in those 14 days, should be possible 05:45 stenno: dang, I have only 4 days of vacations 05:45 oof 05:46 that's not counting the 5 days mandatory vacation after christmas and before new year 05:46 but still 05:46 not much 05:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:47870 05:47 aoei: Doesn't europe have like, tons of public holidays, though? 05:47 arahael: 'europe' lol 05:47 depends which country :p 05:47 aoei: "That part of the world". :) 05:47 we do have a few in Germany tho yes 05:47 they are all on sunday this year 05:47 stenno: Ah! 05:47 stenno: lmfao true 05:48 arahael: in the UK we'd usually shift them so you get an extra day off on Monday instead 05:48 but they don't dco that here 05:48 may 1st, oct 3, oct 31 05:48 Same in Australia. 05:48 all on saturday or sunday this year 05:48 rip 05:48 stenno: why do you call halloween 'reformation day' tho? 05:48 that really confuses me 05:48 it's fuckin' halloween :p 05:49 because we don't celebrate helloween in germany 05:49 that's weird 05:49 y'all are weird 05:49 * aoei is actually invited to a halloween party ... on the 30th :3 05:49 we celebrate that martin luther nailed his 95 theses to the church in wittenberg, initiating the reformation 05:50 why tho? 05:50 stenno: That's awesome. 05:50 aoei: It's popular to hate on christianity at times, but in some of those periods in history, this was really freaking significant. 05:50 i celebrate the clocks changing and the coming of winter 05:50 aoei: the reason its a holiday now is because the fucking catholics had tons of public holidays, and the protestants/atheists hadnt 05:50