00:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] zor (Ran Hum Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1476 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:19905 00:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] zor (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 1900 points, T:1814, killed by a giant spider 00:14 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Mus Nym Fem Neu), 1242 points, T:1057, killed by an arrow 00:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:34104 00:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34106 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:3064 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a stalker corpse, on T:3509 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:3640 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3795 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Neu), 3334 points, T:6982, killed by a white unicorn 00:33 +bhaak | with a bit of hacking, you could probably implement it as specially named chest that can't be picked up 00:34 This is FIQHack's implementation. It didn't play nice with the NH4 save system whatsoever 00:34 in hindsight I should probably have ported 4k's implementation, although I haven't looked at it 00:34 there were severe bugs with it that I wasn't able to fix for quite some time 00:35 to the point where I typically told people "never put eggs in magic chests" 00:35 I did end up fixing the problem eventually, I don't remember what I did though 00:37 <@Doesnt> i remember having to do something to fix timeout issues as well, though for me the worry was more troll corpses 00:38 <@Doesnt> i remember the game breaking very loudly and violently from just going up and down stairs until i fixed it though 00:39 <@Doesnt> because it couldn't figure out where the items inside it were actually at 00:41 <@Doesnt> the way i implemented it though is just a floating non-existent container 00:41 <@Doesnt> that gets quietly substituted for the "magic chests" whenever you open one 00:42 <@Doesnt> has some possibly unwanted consequences though, namely the magic chests never appearing to be holding anything and not getting any heavier when items go in them 00:42 if you wish for a random item, can it become a wand of wishing? 00:42 and would it still be cancelled if so? 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] vix (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8406 00:45 <@Doesnt> i'm pretty sure it ends up cancelled if you even can 00:45 <@Doesnt> iirc though the old tas got around this by wishing for containers, which happened to generate with wands of wishing in them 00:46 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:46 -!- Looksfar has joined #hardfought 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5482 00:49 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed timelost's ghost, the former Traveler, on T:23418 00:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:23437 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3171 00:57 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:58 -!- arahael has joined #hardfought 01:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:17232 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] vix (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:9073 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Ran Elf Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:1134 01:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:23597 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an orange dragon, on T:7011 01:19 -!- oh6 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:25062 01:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Chevalier, on T:24179 01:26 -!- boldultrathin has joined #hardfought 01:26 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 6440 points, T:4898, killed by a leocrotta 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Knight, on T:25131 01:28 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Seignieur, on T:24210 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:7853 01:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:24248 01:34 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:24308 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8109 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2139 points, T:2924, killed by a giant mosquito, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:54 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3453 02:05 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Pillow is lookin' mighty good...] 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7494 02:23 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 02:28 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 02:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:119819 02:39 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9446 02:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed silver elven broadsword", on T:41676 02:48 -!- boldultrathin has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:51 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:25040 02:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] tkirkby (Bin Clk Fem Non), 259 points, T:705, killed by a sewer rat 03:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] unit327 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:24797 03:04 ha just as I suspected the monsters in the zoo brought the bag out to me 03:16 oh great, I got two tame chickatrice 03:24 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1665, rt[0:16:53] 03:31 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1626 points, T:2611, killed by a magic missile 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] vix (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:14442 03:36 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:28582 03:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:12528 04:09 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:14 aosdict: I have non-stacking aquamarine stones 04:14 two sell for 750 each, the third sells for 15 04:14 I have screenshots, and I've also saved my game 04:15 I'm an arc with a touchstone so I can't be mistaken about them being aquamarine, can I? 04:16 tried to formally ID them but apparently the touchstone already does that 04:17 (I must admit that the cheap one was on the floor when I read the ID scroll, so if it's a fake one I couldn't see that) 04:17 <@Shadow_Rider> Is it because the shopkeeper ran out of money 04:17 no, they didn't stack when I picked them up, and the shopkeeper has plenty of money, he just offered me 750 for one stone (which I didn't sell) 04:18 I've had that problem before and aosdict asked me to alert him when it happened again, and now it has 04:18 well, "problem", occurrance 04:18 <@Shadow_Rider> Yeah that is weird 04:18 <@Shadow_Rider> I’d be interested to see pics 04:18 previous time they were jasper, now aquamarine 04:19 one moment 04:19 https://www.dropbox.com/s/v387vti8oo7qrdj/aquamarine1.png?dl=0 non-stacking stones in my inventory 04:20 https://www.dropbox.com/s/d9bqc71n00qv5vr/aquamarine2.png?dl=0 dropping one of L in the shop 04:20 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6k2bs4zha0d9krh/aquamarine3.png?dl=0 dropping N in the shop 04:23 went back to minetown to investigate this, because there's an altar so I can see if the stones didn't stack because of different buc (nope) and a general store that will offer to buy them 04:23 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:23 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 04:24 aosdict: I'll put this game on hold until you've had the opportunity to look at it 04:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] vix (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:15632 04:31 had you individually-named them before? 04:33 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:34 joes: no, I don't name gems 04:34 especially not when I'm an arc 04:34 also that wouldn't have caused different prices 04:35 see the first screenshot to see how they're in inventory 04:35 all I did was pick them up in the mines 04:36 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 16 points, T:89, killed by an electric shock 04:40 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 04:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6649 04:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] jesseb34r (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered Floof, his faithful baby gray dragon, on T:2269 04:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] vix (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:16492 04:57 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] jesseb34r (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1186 points, T:3057, killed by a hobgoblin, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 05:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6213 05:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] vix (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Set, on T:17262 05:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12072 05:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] jesseb34r (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1609 05:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:10529 05:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8135 05:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] jesseb34r (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2657 points, T:2277, killed by a giant bat, while praying 05:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:10670 05:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7930 05:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 626 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:57112 05:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:8996 05:47 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8848 05:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6583 points, T:8976, killed by a magic missile 05:59 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 06:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 21 points, T:197, killed by a falling rock 06:06 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:11 @? wumpus 06:11 wumpus (q) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 3 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 3d6 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, clings, infravisible 06:14 [hdf-eu] [un] anemoi (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Town, on T:10663, rt[4:09:03] 06:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:10452 06:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] vix (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:20648 06:44 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1236, rt[0:52:52] 06:45 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1085 points, T:1308, killed by a gnome 06:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] vix (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 105722 points, T:20694, killed by a minotaur 06:51 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1113, rt[0:05:42] 06:54 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1470, rt[0:08:16] 07:01 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:06 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3139, rt[0:20:00] 07:16 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2264 points, T:4017, killed by an Elvenking 07:17 -!- kwel2d has joined #hardfought 07:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:17349 07:21 -!- kwel2d has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:22 -!- kwel2d has joined #hardfought 07:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:22220 07:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class N, on T:22227 07:34 -!- floating_eye40 has joined #hardfought 07:35 -!- floating_eye40 has quit [Client Quit] 07:35 -!- floating_eye has joined #hardfought 07:36 -!- floating_eye has quit [Client Quit] 07:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class U, on T:22427 07:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:22428 07:44 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Using Circe, the loveliest of all IRC clients] 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:40859 07:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] hack84 (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 3408 points, T:2859, killed by a watch captain 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed Geryon, on T:41227 08:01 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:22330, rt[2:11:41] 08:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:41310 08:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7868 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41832 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41832 08:35 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Talk_Like_a_Pirate_Day yarr 08:36 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 08:37 in honor of this I will start a splicehack pirate 08:39 Hmm. I can't seem to kill Izchak, killing him isn't the challenge, it's getting the hits to even land, it seems. 08:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:23712 08:40 I think it's basically impossible unless you're endgame ready 08:40 and even then it's dicey... 08:40 amateurhour: My Vampire King thinks otherwise, I can't physically separate the two. 08:41 is izchak hostile to you? 08:41 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 25666 points, T:25102, killed by a succubus called Eve 08:41 Nope. 08:41 But I'd like the vampire king to attack, well, everything else. 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:51945 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 537429 points, T:51955, poisoned by Juiblex 08:43 I can't even displace him because he's in the shop doorway. 08:43 So they're both endlessly in conflict for all eternity now. 08:44 And if I try talking to him, the only response is: "I beg you, help me satisfy this growing craving!", so I guess it'll never end. 08:45 Hmm, what if I zap speed. 08:45 Ah, wand turned to dust. 08:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:24387 08:53 no magic whistle? 08:54 or leash? 08:55 hang on, do pirates lose alignment for shopping like normal people? 08:56 can you phrase the question in pirate speak? 08:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:24842 08:57 arr matey, doth my alignment be lost if I pay like a landlubber? 08:57 are you supposed to steal? 08:58 K2: ping 08:58 yarr, ye be subject to the penalties of the land when ye be not at sea 08:58 (no idea what time it is in K2's timezone) 08:58 also this particular shop is a mask shop and I dunno whether half of these are any good 08:58 there's an amalgamation mask. what would that even do 08:58 !tell k2 can you give aosdict access to my xnethack save file so he can figure out what's up with the non-stacking gems? 08:58 I'm on it, raisse. 08:59 I already asked raisse 08:59 oh right 08:59 thanks! 08:59 !tell k2 never mind :-) 08:59 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, raisse. 08:59 well I mean he hasn't responded yet so probably not woken up 09:00 aosdict: maybe crash the game lol 09:00 at least thats always been my experience with amalgamations 09:00 !whereis aosdict 09:00 amateurhour: aosdict is not playing. 09:00 filthy lies, you can spectate me on us server 09:00 playing on aosdictj when it's not even junethack 09:00 oh right 09:01 !whereis aosdictj 09:01 raisse: [hdf-us] aosdictj [spl]: (Pir Inf Fem Cha) T:1237 The Dungeons of Doom level: 4 09:01 first I've played since june 09:01 what is Inf? 09:01 infernal 09:01 infernal 09:01 the shopkeeper is remarkably calm about a demonic pirate coming in to shop 09:01 he does let mimics live in it free of charge 09:02 well, you're not invisible, and they don't know you don't intend to pay 09:02 actually I paid for a blindfold and earmuffs, ironically the two non-mask things 09:03 what do splicehack masks do? 09:03 polymorph you instantly I think 09:03 I put one on expecting it to be like a dnh mask or similar 09:03 and rage quit cause is destroyed my shit 09:03 yeah they're like Majora's Mask masks 09:03 which I think is the direct inspiration 09:03 is there an artifact one called Majora's Mask? 09:04 I hope not 09:04 that would be a boss fight, not a cool item 09:04 hm. these masks are no good. they cut off the oxygen to my brain 09:05 ndnh ent race when? 09:07 ndnh2 when 09:07 probably same answer 09:10 probably not 09:10 Demo, NetSysFire - i didnt think of those! i should try those tomorrow when i get back into it! 09:11 amateurhour: ndnh2 is gonna be released without porting everything over from 1 that might be desired 09:11 oh no 09:11 most of the stuff you even know exists will make it 09:11 oh yay 09:12 but some stuff will get ported over and likely refactored a bit later 09:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 743 points, T:1595, killed by an acidic glob 09:12 not sure symbiote is gonna make it on the first release though 09:12 also still miles from ready 09:12 cause the adventure branch patch is miles long 09:13 completely understandable about symbiotes 09:15 might take a crack at starting etherealoid after I shower 09:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:42185 09:15 hell yeah 09:16 still need to do barb styles and the spire/fell/key split 09:17 kind of wish the city of doors didn't suck 09:19 kinda always thought the rainbow bridges that you unlock after a certain point that let you travel into the sky and between places easier in one of the kings quest games was cool but idk if I want something like that in ndnh 09:25 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Mus Nym Fem Neu), 395 points, T:705, killed by a kitten, while praying unsuccessfully 09:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] Elfishly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:24399 09:30 yo anyone playing vidya 09:30 Nah, it's overrated 09:30 radio, then? 09:30 The radio star got killed and I'm drawing a chalk outline around it 09:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:26341 09:31 ok! im going back to books 09:32 (Secretly I am clearing Lair on an Ogre Skald of Zin...) 09:32 (:o) 09:33 i played some nethack (v3.6.6-tnnt-dev version) locally last night whiel testing irc bot 09:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26405 09:33 managaed to splat some really OP chars 09:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 1536 points, T:2232, killed by a dwarf 09:33 This is about where I usually splat, but I've cleared Orc so I'm a little further ahead than normal and it's looking fairly viable. 09:33 one got drowned by a kraken in the wizards tower lol 09:33 another one astral splat 09:34 * Pinkbeast still has only one post-Castle splat :-) 09:34 kerio told me i should play deltarune earlier today 09:34 and i was like, don't tell me what i should >:[ 09:34 so he said 'play the damn toby fox game aoei' 09:34 and i said ok 09:34 apparently it's free ;o 09:35 What's the damn toby fox game? 09:35 deltarue 09:35 deltarune* 09:36 "the player navigates through different kinds of bullet hell attacks by enemies, which can be resolved peacefully or through violence" hm 09:36 wait i already played that game 09:36 it was called undertale 09:37 Pinkbeast: Undertale was a weird game because i started out hating bullet hell, but the story was very compelling and the game taught me to enjoy bullet hell (at least its particular brand of bullet hell in the context of that game) 09:37 How do you resolve bullet hell attacks peacefully? 09:37 play Undertale and you'll find out 09:37 (: 09:38 Reminds me of the joke about Portal being a second-person shooter because you're shot at but you don't shoot 09:39 (or play deltarune, from that description it sounds like its more of the same, which makes it less attractive as a game than Undertale itself) 09:39 morning 09:39 K2: Message from raisse at 2021-09-19 08:58 EDT: can you give aosdict access to my xnethack save file so he can figure out what's up with the non-stacking gems? 09:39 K2: Message from raisse at 2021-09-19 08:59 EDT: never mind :-) 09:40 K2: i sorta fixed Croesus but then I got annoyed by how it was written and gutted/refactored various bits, and broke other stuff 09:40 mornin' 09:40 but it totally works on python3 now! 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed Tiamat, on T:42442 09:41 (except the bits that are broken) 09:43 no bits allowed 09:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:27482 09:45 aoei \o/ 09:46 all those bad things I said about you behind your back, I take back 09:46 :P 09:46 you lie 09:46 but its ok, the bad things are true so never take them back 09:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Winds, on T:27843 09:51 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 09:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:00 [hdf-us] [un] Algot (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 55 points, T:188, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2928 10:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:46307 10:17 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 343 points, T:501, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Quotidian (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 32 points, T:239, killed by a water demon 10:23 [hdf-us] [un] Algot (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 122 points, T:449, killed by a sewer rat 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Quotidian (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 209 points, T:724, killed by a green mold 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] smzp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3353 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] smzp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3353 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] smzp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3609 10:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1928 points, T:3598, killed by a jaguar 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] smzp (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 6125 points, T:4537, killed by a storm giant 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gemstone lance of fire", on T:43549 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 mithril lance of fire", on T:43549 10:43 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:49413 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43713 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:43714 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3983 points, T:4388, killed by a soldier ant 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:43756 10:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 1066 points, T:1841, killed by a rothe 10:58 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Bar Tro Mal Cha) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:3411 11:00 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:7650 11:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1718 11:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:50582 11:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Elfishly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed dgoddard's ghost, the former Student of Waters, on T:26014 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed the orcish high priest of Moloch, on T:43900 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:43908 11:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3057 11:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3805 11:16 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Bar Tro Mal Cha) averted death, on T:4228 11:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Kni Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1735 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:19299 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] eper (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1359 points, T:1499, burned by a tower of flame 11:29 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Bar Tro Mal Cha) averted death, on T:5688 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] eper (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 25 points, T:223, killed by a land mine 11:35 are there any unnh soko levels that feel too frustrating or too easy? 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:21167 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:45162 11:38 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 691 points, T:877, killed by a gnome 11:39 hothraxxa: ^ 11:41 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 11:43 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 11:46 [hdf-eu] [un] anemoi (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Moria, on T:20354, rt[7:24:16] 11:46 I find this one really difficult and easy to mess up: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sokoban_Level_3h 11:47 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1064, rt[0:07:17] 11:52 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 11:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Pri Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:8481 11:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Pri Hum Fem Law), 6262 points, T:8486, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted werejackal, while praying 11:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:58 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] eper (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1078 points, T:2953, killed by a fire ant 12:00 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 12:02 -!- joes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:06 [hdf-us] [dyn] hothraxxa (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 2109 points, T:5491, killed by a pony 12:08 spicyCebolla: there are a couple that i find frustrating. i think there's at least one that doesn't have a spoiler and it's difficult, although i could be mxing up variants 12:09 there's one i always mess up unless i use the spoilers, but i mostly try to solve them without spoilers 12:09 <@Shadow_Rider> It bothers me that a a bunch of variant sokos have exactly the number of boulders as pits 12:09 <@Shadow_Rider> Especially because I like to try to solve them without spoilers 12:09 agreed 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Ixoth, on T:25642 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25643 12:11 i don't like the ones with numerous boulders that also need a lot of setup 12:12 I think the ones Rider's griping about may be SLASH'EM's fault? 12:12 <@Shadow_Rider> It’s possible but I feel like I’ve seen them in others 12:13 don't know. i don't like 4e and 4f, which are attributed to grunt in the wiki spoilers 12:13 both have lots of boulders and need exactly the right sequence or fuck you 12:15 unnh doesn't have a luck penalty, however 12:15 not that i usually care. -1 luck is usually not an issue. i think people are too scared of it 12:16 what really pisses me off is when some monster reads one of the scrolls of earth 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Cronos' ghost, the former Heretic, on T:1804 12:17 Iunno, if it's enough to put you in the negatives 12:17 don't care. it's only 600 turns 12:17 Though in my case it's moreso "shit with which I would rather not put up" 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] eper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1265 12:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 34 points, T:56, killed by a kobold 12:19 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Kni Inc Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5543 12:20 i think the only time that negative luck really matters is for wishing with a wand. might be wrong but that's the assumption i work with 12:21 <@Shadow_Rider> Prayer can be annoying although that’s usually the fault of the player 12:22 <@Shadow_Rider> The problem is where the scrolls of earth are located in a lot of variants you have to break all 4 (?) boulders to keep going 12:22 ah right, i never prey if i have negtive luck 12:22 er 12:23 i seem to have an a key problem 12:23 i've had a couple of cases where i had to break way more than four boulders 12:23 10 in one case, 8 in another 12:24 <@Shadow_Rider> Lmfao props for sticking with it 12:24 <@Shadow_Rider> I would just have ragequit 12:24 nah. they were both unnh, no luck penalty 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:45399 12:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:13402 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:45402 12:26 Un doesn't do penalties in general but clearing it without "cheating" is a conduct 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] eper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:2033 12:26 yup. one i don't care about 12:26 <@Shadow_Rider> Surprised it was still solvable with 10 broken boulders 12:28 it was a first leve, remember. you can solve any first level even if you break every boulder because pits 12:28 well. complete, not solve 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Neu), 4021 points, T:3136, killed by a mountain dwarf 12:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Kni Inc Mal Law), 49326 points, T:6271, killed by a hunting horror 12:30 What actually nettles me is that one level where there's a separate room with a pit that you can never fill normally 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] timelost (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:2425 12:30 !rng play vidya | shower | remain trapped in executive function paralysis (irc) 12:30 aoei: shower 12:30 So it's technically never "completed" far as the game is concerned 12:32 <@Shadow_Rider> Haha never realized that 12:32 <@Shadow_Rider> That’s kinda funny 12:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:941 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:45458 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] eper (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2600 12:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:16756 12:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:16799 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +9000 wooden lance of cold named "Brigit's Glory"", on T:45477 12:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 138100 points, T:16833, killed by invisible Center of All 12:36 That went south fast 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Kni Cen Mal Neu), 2415276 points, T:45477, ascended (in dishonor) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1631876306.evil.html 12:36 Geg 12:36 was that level just bhaak trolling unnethack players 12:36 <@Shadow_Rider> Ascended in dishonor :/ 12:37 <@Shadow_Rider> Gg 12:37 D: 12:37 does that still count? 12:37 gg 12:37 I don't think it was an Un level originally 12:37 or at all 12:37 <@Zefnar> What is dishonor ? Hm 12:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:38 doesnt matter still ascended 12:38 Notice Vader's alignment 12:38 zefnar: used a helmet of opposite alignment 12:38 <@Zefnar> Ah 12:38 nope 12:38 nah it's just if your ending alignment doesn't match starting alignment 12:38 permaconversion too 12:38 which is BS 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] timelost (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3440 12:38 oh that's all? hm 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] timelost (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3484 12:39 ok so def still counts 12:39 <@Shadow_Rider> If you could figure out how to turn into neutral with opposite alignment let me know 12:39 lol 12:39