00:04 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (War Dwa Mal Law), 3364 points, T:1909, killed by a wolf 00:09 -!- NachoLibera has joined #hardfought 00:19 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:19 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:22 -!- Looksfar has joined #hardfought 00:23 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 holy charging", on T:13634, rt[0:45:31] 00:23 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:13643, rt[0:45:52] 00:24 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:13656, rt[0:46:37] 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 834 points, T:1380, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted killer bee, while reading a book 00:29 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:14413, rt[0:51:52] 00:29 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:14414, rt[0:51:56] 00:31 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:14706, rt[0:53:35] 00:31 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:14739, rt[0:53:49] 00:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:18181 00:32 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:15158, rt[0:55:14] 00:33 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:15179, rt[0:55:30] 00:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a winged gargoyle, on T:18379 00:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Vam Fem Neu) killed Shelob, on T:14935 00:34 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:15317, rt[0:56:55] 00:34 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:15320, rt[0:56:58] 00:35 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:15539, rt[0:57:52] 00:36 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 168597 points, T:15609, [0:58:41], quit 00:37 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 356 points, T:447, killed by a gnome zombie 00:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Vam Fem Neu) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:15337 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:32496 00:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Vam Fem Neu) killed Lungorthin, on T:15578 00:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 38870 points, T:12874, killed by a warg 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1177 00:45 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 652 points, T:773, killed by a white blob, while sleeping 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 470 points, T:1432, killed by a vampire lord in bat form 00:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1104 01:00 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 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Cha), 3036 points, T:6154, killed by a tiger 01:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Mal Una) had an etched staff entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:6648 01:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Dresser, on T:25737 02:00 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1249 points, T:2653, killed by a snake 02:04 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:10 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:19 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 414 points, T:1209, killed by a kitten 02:20 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 78 points, T:168, killed by a boiling potion 02:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1566 02:24 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 43 points, T:230, killed by a goblin 02:25 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 02:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:25632 02:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1567 points, T:2617, killed by a rothe, while praying 02:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 322 points, T:1334, killed by a gnome lady 02:40 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2710, rt[0:15:45] 02:41 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:41 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 690 points, T:2867, killed by a dwarf 02:50 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 241 points, T:887, burned by molten lava 02:51 Damn it! :) 02:53 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 833 points, T:2320, killed by a rabid rat 02:57 -!- NachoLibera has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:58 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1042, rt[0:04:45] 03:03 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1722, rt[0:09:37] 03:13 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3129, rt[0:19:46] 03:14 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2140 points, T:3189, killed by an orc mummy 03:18 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1027, rt[0:02:57] 03:21 !8ball should i actually practice maybe? 03:21 Rust: Better not tell you now 03:21 hm ook 03:21 wel still got some time 03:21 * Rust puts on ichbinmiah on twitch 03:21 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1722, rt[0:06:40] 03:27 <@Shadow_Rider> Let’s see it 03:28 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5937 points, T:4718, killed by a bolt of lightning 03:30 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 610 points, T:3199, killed by a gnome lord 03:34 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 03:42 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:53 hm. when i click on a streamer name in the timetable, nethackathon.org opens two tabs to the same twitch url 03:53 thats odd 04:20 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 04:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:51417 04:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:3741 04:37 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1107 points, T:1123, [0:17:25], quit 04:38 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 05:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had a knife entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:20434 05:07 Did anyone see how the original character in nethackathon died? 05:07 Non, wasn't watching 05:11 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 121 points, T:293, killed by a large mimic 05:13 inb4 newt 05:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:35520 05:21 apparently it was titan medusa summoning lots of monsters 05:23 there was also another deaht 05:23 a rogue i think? 05:23 i think now is third game 05:24 i missed like three streams while sleeping D: 05:29 * NetSysFire gives Rust a tin of green elf 05:29 thanx 05:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Muad (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:38294 05:32 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:37032 05:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:53733 05:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] greenbourne277 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 539 points, T:1829, killed by a wererat 05:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:37608 05:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3163 points, T:3223, poisoned by a rotted bugbear corpse, while praying 05:59 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:14 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 06:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] greenbourne277 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1265 points, T:2491, killed by a gecko 06:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] smzp (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 426 points, T:683, killed by a gnome 06:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] smzp (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 496 points, T:1298, killed by a housecat called hobbes 06:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] greenbourne277 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 748 points, T:2272, killed by a gnome lady 06:58 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:58 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 914 points, T:1571, rt[1:10:11], wc[2:20:03], killed by an Aleax of Tyr 07:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3376 points, T:5101, killed by a goblin outrider 07:11 It's like it took a turn for *each* monster that I probed? 07:25 arahael, you zapped probing, then it was their turn 07:25 only steth gives you a free probe 07:25 wolf + outrider killed you 07:25 and only once per turn 07:25 They moved like, 2-3 squares, then attacked me? 07:26 In the same turn? 07:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:43067 07:26 no it was 1 outrider on a wolf? 07:26 Note, I was already "fast". 07:26 (I had zapped a wand of speed on myself) 07:26 The wolf is not carrying anything. 07:26 The wolf bites! 07:26 The goblin outrider swings his iron crude bow. 07:26 The goblin outrider hits you! 07:26 The goblin outrider swings his iron crude bow. 07:26 The goblin outrider hits you! 07:26 You die... 07:26 looks normal to me 07:27 Yeah, I didn't even see that, I read the probe messages... Closed that, and WAM! Dead. 07:27 yeah you just got rekt by a mounted warrior 07:27 rip 07:27 I should've had at least one turn, I would've thought. 07:27 Even with the prob in itself not being free. 07:27 well there's the partially randomised movement thing right 07:28 so if they rolled well and you rolled badly they got extra actions and you got ganked 07:28 That must've been it. 07:28 I was fast, though. :(' 07:29 fast only gives you 1/3 chance of 2 actions on your turn 07:29 very fast it's 2/3 chance, iirc 07:29 Ah, so those riders could've had 2/3 chance as well, as they'd have been fast as well, at least. 07:30 riding has funny mechanics, but yes absolutely means they're more fast effectively 07:31 i would like to imagine that the rider doesn't get their mount's full complement of movement points for fighting, only for traversal of the dungeon 07:31 Interesting. So I was just super duper unlucky. 07:31 but im not sure if the game is that smart 07:31 i suspect they just end up having a lot of actions 07:31 -!- Guest33 has joined #hardfought 07:32 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 07:32 idk how fast these wolves are but as player you get loads of extra movement when riding a warhorse 07:32 I really should ride the psueodragon as often as I can. 07:33 idk if they're that fast tho 07:34 > While riding, your carrying capacity will be set to maximum, and your movement speed is set to that of the steed (e.g., a horse is as fast as a character wearing speed boots, and a warhorse is even faster). However, many of your other actions—fighting, quaffing, reading, zapping, and engraving while riding—still rely on your own movement speed. 07:34 possibly monster riding was implemented ni the same way then 07:34 tho that quote is about player riding in vanilla 07:34 but taht still woulda meant they can easiliy close distance to get in melee with you 07:34 and have movement spare to attack 07:59 That makes sense, then. :( 07:59 "awww a cute kitten", nethack players: "*sweating*" 08:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1763 points, T:2098, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 08:11 -!- kwel2d has joined #hardfought 08:16 -!- kwel2d has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:16 -!- kwel2d has joined #hardfought 08:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1769 points, T:1213, killed by a bolt of lightning 08:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mewsifer (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1649 08:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mewsifer (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1770 08:27 Rust: today i got a letter from the jobcenter, that i have an appointment yesterday 08:27 :o 08:27 nice 08:27 wait 08:27 yes 08:27 not nice 08:28 the notification that they want to speak with me yesterday got here today by physical mail 08:28 tad inconvenient 08:28 are they aware that you don't currently own a TARDIS? 08:28 its saturday, i need to tell them on monday 08:31 I hope you're in a non-UK country since the DWP will totally sanction you for not being a Time Lord 08:31 i believe he lives near the Rhein or something 08:31 so prolly ok 08:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mewsifer (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2034 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:26380 08:38 yup 08:38 i live near the ruhr 08:39 mobileuser or any other infidel among us, what do you do with your 3 spellbooks you get at the beginning? they are kind of heavy 08:39 with wiz i sometimes sell them, maybe you can do that 08:40 i usually stash them somewhere because monsters arent even interested in them 08:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 208 points, T:1012, killed by a mithril dart 08:41 yeah, get rid of them and remember where they are for later 08:46 L - a +0 pair of platinum gauntlets of power (being worn) 08:47 why do you give me platinum i want bone 08:47 or stone 08:49 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3442 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Kni Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Cronos' ghost, the former Idolater, on T:27253 08:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1408 08:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:58 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 607 points, T:1582, killed by a rothe 09:02 -!- Semilg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:03 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 09:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] greenbourne277 (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 791 points, T:1986, killed by a dwarf 09:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Minetown, on T:1572 09:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 339 points, T:1975, killed by a wooden knife 09:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3815 09:23 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/plwld7/best_variant_to_play/hcdzxvk/ 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 3474 points, T:2715, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant beetle, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:23 what a rollercoaster of emotions. UnNetHack is too easy, Slash'em is too annoying, and GruntHack is too unfinished 09:24 un is too hard 09:25 that reddit made me cry 09:25 EvilHack updated (all servers) 09:25 surprised noone mentioned dnh yet 09:25 ^ bugfixes 09:26 someone tell him to play dnh 09:26 dammit ninjad 09:26 Demo: apparently, it's too easy AND too boring 09:27 I want someone to post an epic smackdown of all the variants so we can mald over it together 09:27 Demo: if it's too hard for you, I have one helpful piece of advice for you: get gud 09:28 yeah I forgot to do that 09:28 thanks 09:28 maybe next June I'll ascend un 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:10501 09:28 idk 09:29 yeah but stay away from the side branches, they are boring 09:30 i mean who wants chromatic dragon scales or a crystal pick axe 09:30 pffft *yawn* 09:30 No accounting for taste 09:30 or severe lack of 09:31 I still haven't picked un clean of maps yet 09:31 they are optional for a reason. if you're not good enough to ascend the game without optional stuff, why are you even playing? 09:31 JOOI what's a crystal pickaxe do? 09:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Minetown, on T:1789 09:31 and of course it's completely vanilla outside of the optional branches 09:32 -!- skillfulhacks has joined #hardfought 09:32 yea bhaak removed all the nonvanilla stuff like disintegrator so it is too easy 09:32 does crystal pickaxe let you mine for crystals or nah? 09:33 Pinkbeast: pick-axe on steroids. twice as fast at digging, more damage, and lighter 09:33 https://www.twitch.tv/kitsukoki bhaak check out this strim 09:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed greenbourne277's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:4784 09:35 if it can't mine crystals then I don't want it, false advertising 09:35 it can mine crystal walls 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:10512 09:36 crystal ice walls idk 09:38 Rust: I'm not seeing much 09:38 yeah the whole stream is just a vtuber failing at getting nethack to work 09:38 :D 09:38 magic lamps are fairly common in unnh but wishes from them are nearly useless, so nobody needs to do sheol to get a crystal pick. just sayin' 09:39 chromatic dragon scales, however... 09:39 are those wishable from a magic wish? 09:39 no 09:39 that's a general problem in nethack that you can wish for too much stuff :-) 09:40 you can wish for scales with a lamp but you need to know what scales you want. dragons are not identified easily in unnh 09:40 gotta hope you get good wyrm cave rng 09:40 bhaak: not a complaint, just an observation 09:40 hothraxxa: they are easily identified. just keep yourself at a distance and let them breath at you (-: 09:40 demo: dragonbane really helps in the dragon caves. it's a spear in unnh 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:10855 09:41 yeah, i knw that trick 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 161279 points, T:10855, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 09:41 what are the odds you don't have access to chromatic scales in an un game? 09:41 our defioniton of "easy" varies somewhat 09:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 310 points, T:2371, killed by a djinni 09:42 demo: there are three chromatic dragons, in all my unnh games, at least one has dropped scales (all 3 last time). no guarantee, however 09:43 i don't do sheol, btw. did it once, not doing it again. ice golems hit really hard and you never want to get anywhere near a punisher 09:43 that a dragon death drops scales is 1/3, so that 3 kills don't death drop one is (2/3)^3 ~= 30% 09:44 -!- kwel2d has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:44 bring a few wands of undead turning if that happens 09:44 yeah thats the same number I got 09:44 that salvaged one of my dragon cave runs 09:45 not counting undead turning shenanigans 09:45 where I guess tourists are at the advantage 09:45 -!- skillfulhacks has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:45 nonmagical wishes don't work on magic wands, right? 09:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 31 points, T:151, killed by acid fumes 09:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] greenbourne277 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1356 points, T:2886, killed by a dwarf lord, while praying 09:51 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 09:51 i don't understand the question 09:52 Demo in unnethack, wand of wishing you can wish for anything. all other sources of wishes can only be non magical objects 09:52 you can't use nonmagical wishes to get magical wands 09:53 is that what he was asking? 09:53 i think so 09:53 because if that worked, well 09:53 anything else makes no sense 09:53 in other words non-mmagical wishes cant wish for wands 09:53 cuz wands are all magic 09:53 lol 09:54 no. a wand of nothing is not magical 09:54 ah, did wonder 09:54 my last unnh game, the wand was 1:1 and it turned to dust on the first wrest, no wish :( 09:54 makes sense, thats just a stick :p 09:54 it can polymorph into a magical wand though 09:54 :o 09:54 that sucked because it meant carl wasn't coming to my ascension party 09:54 hothraxxa: no, it must have been 1:0 then 09:55 aww, ardub's glowing review of xnethack gives me the warm fuzzies 09:55 no i was 1:1. i got a magic harp with the wish 09:55 :) 09:55 second zap and it was dust 09:55 yeah 09:55 id your WoW :P 09:55 heh 09:55 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wish#UnNetHack 09:56 aosdict: I find it amusing though that they highlighted one feature that almost every variant has since 2010 :-) 09:56 easymode 09:56 EASYBABYHACK 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1172 points, T:1145, killed by a large kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:57 where is this glowing review? 09:57 it's because of paranoid trap that K2 managed to get a 4 ascension streak 09:57 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/plwld7/best_variant_to_play/ on this reddit thread hothraxxa 09:57 ty 09:57 i dont need paranoid trap. I've played enough grunthack to train myself to not stumble into water/lava 09:58 K2 before enabling paranoid trap: died a lot, cried a lot 09:58 K2 after enabling paranoid trap: ascended every time without failure 09:58 hahaha 09:58 * K2 shelves the bobble hat for doggos branch for evilhack 09:59 bratsad 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 332 points, T:638, killed by a water moccasin 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1336 points, T:1669, killed by a gnome lord 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 345 points, T:755, killed by a gnome lord 10:12 * hothraxxa posts and gives xnh and evil thumbs up 10:12 nice 10:12 also nh4 and fourk and grunt 10:12 lol hothraxxa i just read your post 10:13 (I really hate sporkhack, just though I'd throw that in) 10:13 lol 10:13 i knew you'd like that 10:13 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 10:13 somewhere lorimer sheds a tear, and he does not know why 10:13 tears of joy 10:14 my love for sporkhack balances out your hate 10:14 I wish I was good at words n stuff 10:14 maybe lorimer shares dna with another developer we all know who hates her players 10:14 ooof that's low 10:15 my review of dnh is basically 'its epic u should play it' but I can't describe it very well 10:15 k2: enjoy your tinfoil hat mitre of holiness 10:15 hah 10:15 this is correct. all humans share large percentages of dna 10:15 we're all related 10:15 nooooo 10:15 amateurhour is my fathers brothers cousins former roomate 10:15 *roommate 10:16 amateurhour: you could add that it is the go to variant if you like d&d? 10:16 hahah name the movie! 10:16 the goto variant? good one bhaak 10:16 K2: isn't there a "sister's" in there 10:17 perhaps 10:17 i dont like d&d that shits for lamers but i like dnh 10:17 Demo if you like nethack in any of its forms you like d&d 10:17 you just dont realize it 10:17 well 10:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:21928 10:18 where's all the completely irrelevant chatter that distracts the dm? 10:18 here 10:18 also dnd is a social activity 10:18 i dont think Demo does that 10:21 Demo: basic logic. "if you like X, you will like Y" doesn't mean that "if you don't like X, you will not like Y". in fact, it doesn't say anything about the "if you don't like X" case. 10:24 yeah but i just did 10:24 yeah but it's wrong 10:25 i thought all he said was 10:25 "i don't like dnd that shits for lamers" 10:25 "i like dnh tho" 10:25 wtf d&d is epic 10:26 i think thats all i said as well 10:26 implication being Demo possibly never played dnd but doesn't think he'll like stuff that he thinks is for 'lamers' 10:26 which is still bad logic based on false premises 10:27 i tried to get into with some friends a few years back but couldnt 10:27 ah ok fair 10:27 i mean you're still bad and wrong 10:27 but slightly less bad and wrong 10:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 275 points, T:1028, killed by a poisonous corpse 10:31 -!- kwel2d has joined #hardfought 10:31 d&d is horrible unless you get the right mix of dm and players 10:32 then it's great fun but completing a campaign requires dedication 10:35 -!- kwel2d has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:36 -!- kwel2d has joined #hardfought 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3236 points, T:4216, killed by a gnome lady 10:37 <@Pacra> Umbire: hate that gnomish wizard stunlock 10:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:51041 10:37 ? 10:37 Oh 10:37 <@Pacra> it gets me in horrible minetown priest situations every time 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2150 points, T:2470, killed by a rabid dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Inc Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:14902 10:48 -!- Guest33 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Inc Fem Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:15315 10:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Inc Fem Neu) wished for "3 cursed spiritual soulstones", on T:15389 10:58 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 11:02 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 11:10 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 11:10 -!- mariari has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.2] 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 10974 points, T:5028, killed by a gargoyle 11:13 -!- mariari has joined #hardfought 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 62 points, T:25, killed by a goblin 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1554 points, T:1619, killed by Arahael's ghost, while praying 11:20 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:20 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (erbium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 11:20 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:25950 11:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 270 points, T:1697, killed by a wand 11:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:26354 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1932 11:31 <@nabru> https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/tiny-jenga-ants-can-sense-which-soil-grains-to-remove-when-digging-tunnels/ Go team a! 11:31 Baller 11:32 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1469 points, T:2847, killed by a poisonous corpse 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:61573 11:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:27170 11:40 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 11:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:27296 11:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 123 points, T:583, [0:01:58], killed by a fox 11:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:27497 11:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:27627 11:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 11:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Garland, on T:27698 11:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Chaos, on T:27704 11:45 dang i shredded chaos 11:47 this sucks. third orctown in four games :( 11:47 <@nabru> :/ 11:50 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2331, rt[0:05:56] 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1864 points, T:1353, killed by a water troll 11:51 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2704, rt[0:07:14] 11:57 Purely hypothetically, if someone wanted to get cats (and specifically tame cats) some small advantage that gives players an arguable reason to prefer them over dogs, but it's not a huge deal, can anyone think of suggestions for how to do that? 11:57 Asking for a friend. 11:58 I definitely didn't just give them a minor disadvantage and am not looking to compensate for that, in any way shape or form, no sir. 11:58 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:58 jonadab: open a tin to have them teleport at you? 11:58 <@Doesnt> give them an enmity bonus vs rats 11:58 paxed: Oooh, I kind of like that. 11:58 <@Doesnt> like elves vs orcs 11:59 cats are slightly better fighters but don't stick to you as loyally as dogs 11:59 in evilhack cats are slightly better than dogs because the largest form is still small enough to get dodge bonus against zombies iirc 12:02 I'm not going to implement Evilhack-style zombies in Fourk today. 12:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3734 12:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3780 12:03 Actually, I really like the tin-opener-as-magic-whistle idea, because it specifically compensates for, umm, the other thing that I definitely didn't do, about which too much has been said already. 12:03 lol 12:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2069 points, T:4171, killed by a chameleon imitating a rothe, while paralyzed 12:03 did you make it so that enemies throw balls of yarn which paralyze them 12:03 Definitely didn't make cats unwilling to wade into shallow water whereas dogs and most other monsters now will. 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 659 points, T:827, killed by a piranha 12:04 hi jonadab, have you fixed the problem with giants in sokoban? 12:05 i'd like to play a fourk giant but no way as long as that happens 12:05 hothraxxa: That's triaged off my list of things to do before 4.3.0.5 goes save stable. 12:05 ok. looking forward to it 12:05 Sorry. 12:06 huh? wait do you mean you're not fixing it? 12:06 Giants have a number of other problems that are waiting as well, e.g., they need more armor in their size (though not as much as for humans). 12:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 134 points, T:625, killed by a falling rock 12:07 hothraxxa: I've gotten quite ruthless with what I've pushed off the "needed for save stable" list, because it's been *years* and I need to be realistic. 12:07