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hah 01:00 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 01:01 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3170 01:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Mal Una) had a dagger entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:38912 01:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:23 YANI: Croesus may generate disguised as another @ in a similar vein to a doppleganger 01:29 [hdf-us] [4k] DeniedExistence (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1795 01:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:10315 01:39 -!- FestersUncle has joined #hardfought 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3991 points, T:4718, killed by a blue jelly 01:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Cav Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Vagrant, on T:14243 01:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:10714 01:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14383 01:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Cav Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an orc-captain, on T:14431 01:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Mal Una) had a dagger entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:39196 01:46 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: zzzzz...] 01:59 -!- APic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:00 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 02:03 [hdf-us] [un] Umbire (Con Hum Mal Cha), 135 points, T:577, killed by a fox 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6570 02:09 -!- APic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 02:15 [hdf-us] [un] Umbire (Con Hum Fem Cha), 321 points, T:465, killed by a water moccasin 02:17 [hdf-us] [un] Umbire (Con Vam Mal Cha), 88 points, T:219, killed by a water moccasin 02:18 !setmintc 1000 02:18 Umbire: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for umbire set to 1000 02:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Pri Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:711 02:38 -!- FestersUncle has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 775 points, T:1663, killed by a dwarf 02:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (calcium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:40 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:36864 02:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:2391 02:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1276 points, T:3159, killed by a dwarf 02:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:37117 02:53 [hdf-us] [4k] DeniedExistence (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:6668 02:54 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:55 bhaak: so I just found a lit lamp on a fountain tile 02:55 that normal/expected in anyway? 02:58 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:37537 03:05 [hdf-us] [un] Umbire (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1091, rt[0:22:48] 03:11 [hdf-us] [un] Umbire (Con Hum Mal Cha), 936 points, T:1737, killed by a gnome lord 03:12 Umbire: I don't think item generation is constraint in that way. items won't be randomly put in water or lava but altars or fountains should be okay I guess. without source diving I boldy claim this could happen in vanilla as well :) 03:13 I was more puzzled about it being lit specifically 03:15 not sure 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1020 points, T:3040, killed by a killer bee 03:17 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:18 -!- FestersUncle has joined #hardfought 03:18 in mkobj.c they are set to unlit when being generated 03:26 [hdf-us] [un] Umbire (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1419, rt[0:08:08] 03:26 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 03:26 [hdf-us] [4k] DeniedExistence (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:9089 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39030 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39032 03:27 [hdf-us] [un] Umbire (Con Hum Mal Cha), 844 points, T:1520, killed by a gnome lord 03:29 [hdf-us] [un] dimsum (Con Orc Fem Cha), 12 points, T:95, killed by a jackal 03:31 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 03:37 -!- tacco has quit [] 03:39 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:42 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:42 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:51 !setmintc 03:51 Umbire: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for umbire removed. 03:55 now you can activate cheats and hacks and noone will see 03:57 Umbire: one of the theme rooms, was it? 03:57 oh, you were playing unnethack? then i guess not 03:58 Just a random lit lamp, yeah. 03:59 Also I was primarily playing to see if the guards whistled while you ran from them in Minetown. 03:59 Needed a convict and a variant that I hadn't parked a save on yet. 03:59 Though now I've dropped a watchman and re-appropriated their stuff... 04:00 Are you doing that for the wiki, Umbire? 04:01 Mhm. 04:01 Answer was no, btw. 04:01 Though they may have lacked a whistle, will be heading back there later if possible anyway so. 04:06 I have a rogue just about to deal with the Wizard, but I should probably get some sleep so I don't do a YASDSD (Yet Another Sleep Deprived Stupid Death). 04:08 my archaeologist is going strong - have grayswandir, luckstone, -7 ac, wand of death, bag of holding - and i've only been to the mines. kind of surprised i didn't YASD again 04:08 Neat. 04:08 Lemme start on this evil healer finally. 04:09 Signal is cooperating for now... 04:09 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 04:10 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:11 if you wish for spellbooks, should you wish for them to be greased and fixed, too? 04:12 they can get burnt but i don't know if that affects them (i didn't think so, but i'd check the wiki) 04:13 I mean spellbooks that get burnt usually just catch fire and burn up immediately 04:13 [hdf-us] [4k] DeniedExistence (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10975 04:13 So you'd wish for it to be fireproofed if anything 04:14 might be time for me to go to bed too, mixing up my nethack rules, lol 04:14 lol rip 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2396 04:26 Does increasing attack skill increase illithid's psionic damage? Using 3 -5 psionic attacks to take down a floating eye is kind of useless. 04:27 I know it does not increase damage for attack spells, only changes type of spell (ray vs. ball) and fail rate. 04:27 Seems like you might've answered your own question, can't really say. 04:28 Nothing says you have to strictly rely on one form of ranged attack anyhow, can pick up daggers or darts if you want to conserve power. 04:29 it looks like it's 2d6 damage regardless of attack spell skill (but 4d6 if you're over level 26? what?) 04:30 It's good for a source of confusion I suppose 04:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 gold dragon scale mail", on T:2725 04:31 Oh, I surely use daggers when I can. 04:32 I just like the psionic, but it really is only useful in the beginning of the game. 04:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:2734 04:35 i am not sure whats happening to me 04:35 why can i see a zombie via esp or telepathy? they dont have minds 04:39 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:40 Psionics also aren't affected by AC 04:40 That I know of 04:40 NetSysFire: Moment, lemme see 04:40 Yeah, that is the way I gfet around dwarven lord's with -18 AC! 04:40 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 04:41 Was hoping you hadn't moved on yet 04:41 But odds are you drank blessed monster detection? 04:41 Or did some form of object detection and saw statues of zombies 04:42 Umbire: oh, paxed had the right idea. there is a themed room that is unlit and contains a randomly placed lit oil lamp. 04:42 no it was an actual moving one 04:42 Well ping if you see one again 04:42 bhaak: o 04:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] arbelf (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3774 04:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Law), 887 points, T:890, killed by a hobgoblin, while fainted from lack of food 04:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3348 04:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1041 04:54 [hdf-us] [4k] DeniedExistence (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:12563 05:04 bhaak: Oh, can tinning kits produce potions of blood for vampires in Un, or no? 05:04 Also wondering if that's possible in SLASH'EM/SlashTHEM... 05:06 -!- taichi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.2] 05:06 A vampire mage on level 18?!? In a zoo.... hopefully it is a chameleon? 05:07 yes to slashthem no to slashem 05:07 Y E P . Chameleon. 05:07 amateurhour: Was hoping you'd come through, thanks. 05:07 Slash'EM is vial from med kit. 05:08 in slashthem you can get the blood if you're an incantifier, ghoul, or vampire 05:10 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:13 amateurhour: Guessing THEM incants are much different from dnh ones. 05:13 Umbire: no. you can mix potions of fruit juice with blood to get more blood potions 05:13 (In general, not just the blood thing) 05:13 bhaak: Just confirming to be sure, thank you. 05:14 I remember you also made it so that archeologist items appeared on boulder traps, that wouldn't include tinning kits by some wild off chance, right? 05:14 I remember that not being the case, but my memory can be faulty 05:17 no, only an archeologist corpse, a fedora, and a possibly whip 05:17 Right. 05:19 I think they're different yeah but idk what slashthem did with incant 05:19 Right. 05:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed bragi's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:10186 05:23 https://bhaak.net/nethack/knox2.des.html and https://bhaak.net/nethack/knox3.des.html 05:25 I was very fond of iron bars (still am). they were very underused in 3.4.3 05:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Premium Heart, on T:7600 05:26 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:26 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 05:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:7610 05:29 prem heart gift, nice 05:29 hmm, wrong channel 05:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Mal Una), 103811 points, T:46699, killed by a boojum 05:31 Ouch. 05:31 Stupid wands of polymorph. 05:31 And I had the answer. I never stop to think. 05:31 Wand of teleport. 05:31 Wand of sleep. 05:33 I'd ascend every time if I stopped playing *hack games and roguelikes in general like they were real time. 05:34 ouch :( 05:39 Every time I've encountered a boojum so far (many , many times) I've always thought they were pushovers and did not understand why they were considered a threat. 05:40 Well, this one dispatched my armored Jabberwock and me in a few rounds. 88 HP to nothing quickly. 05:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bezaban (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 244 points, T:2029, killed by an arrow 05:47 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 05:47 Beholder: any messages? 05:50 I see there's a fix in 3.7 now ais523, nice one 05:50 yep, I did the hunting-down of the bug and analysis as to what was happening, but I didn't feel confident in writing a comprehensive fix because I kept missing places 05:51 so Pat Rankin did the actual fix implementation 05:51 devteam working together :-) 05:52 if I were implementing NetHack from scratch, I'd probably make things like the hero's memory and the display buffer be function parameters, so it would be clear whether they could be modified by a function or not 05:53 that'd almost eliminate this sort of bug 05:53 but, well, nobody has time to reimplement NetHack from scratch 05:53 Fix for what? o: 05:53 incidentally, this bug probably affects some variants too 05:54 Umbire: game crash if you restore a save made while having a hallucination timer suppressed by Grayswandir, riding, and standing on an item 05:54 any idea if it'd affect 343 variants? 05:54 I haven't checked 3.4.3 yet 05:54 Oh huh. 05:54 I'm guessing for the 3.6 variants the small patch you posted in #nethack might be enough? 05:55 maybe – it certainly won't hurt 05:56 -!- froggles has joined #hardfought 05:56 in my 3.7 testing I found second crash triggered by the same set of circumstances, involving the game trying to check whether the steed was flying before the steed had loaded 05:57 evilhack had a possibly unrelated issue with grayswandir blocking hallu at load, but it was introduced by moving a check for flying 05:57 reproduces in 3.4.3 too 05:57 wow, just how long has this thing gone undiscovered :-) 05:57 haha, now check the first version grayswandir was in :^) 05:59 3.4.3 has the same backtrace as 3.6.6 did, unsurprisingly 06:00 NH4 is *not* broken in this respect 06:01 I'm actually not surprised at this – NH4 checks every turn (except in the middle of a multi-turn action) to make sure that a save made that turn would be restorable 06:01 so if the bug existed in NH4, I'd expect someone to have encountered it by now 06:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1210 points, T:2409, killed by a pony 06:05 anyway, I don't have anything older than 3.4.3 handy, and don't want to spend too much time tracking down "so how long has that bug been there?" 06:05 but it seems to be multiple decades at this point 06:06 yeah it'd just be curiosity's sake, all the actively played variants on hardfought are 343 or later 06:07 Grayswandir was invented in 3.1.0 06:07 now I'm seriously thinking about if I want to learn 3.1.0's build system :-) 06:08 you know you do :P 06:09 -!- FestersUncle has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:10 it doesn't seem significantly different from 3.4.3's 06:12 hmm, 3.1.0 is only 2 years newer than Linux, so technically speaking I have to do a new OS port for this :-) 06:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Mal Una), 430 points, T:1222, killed by a small mimic, while fainted from lack of food 06:21 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2706 06:23 ugh, I forgot that 3.1.0 assumes that 64-bit processors don't exist 06:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 57656 points, T:9791, died of starvation 06:35 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Con Chn Mal Cha), 3 points, T:54, killed by a sewer rat 06:39 oh wow, this is a brilliant bug 06:39 3.1.0 is trying to do a string compare to see if certain strings appear in the dungeon.def file 06:39 but it accidentally uses sizeof rather than strlen 06:39 ups 06:40 on a 32-bit processor, it works, because sizeof(char *) is 4 and so it checks the first four characters, and all the strings are at least 4 letters long and have a unique first 4 letters 06:40 Interesting. 06:40 on a 64-bit processor, sizeof(char *) is now 8, and some of the strings are shorter than 8 so the compare fails 06:40 :D 06:40 obviously the code was never correct, but the bug happened to have no visible effects 06:41 mistakes that don't (initially) break stuff are pretty insidious XD 06:41 nice find ais523 06:41 lol 06:42 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Cav Vam Mal Neu), 1516 points, T:1126, killed by a watchman 06:45 -!- APic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 06:49 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Orc Fem Cha), 436 points, T:645, killed by a death ray 06:55 oh, 3.1.0 doesn't have steeds 06:55 so if the bug's there you'd need to trigger it some other way 06:57 not even as a compile option? 06:57 hmm, now I've reached the point where it runs under valgrind but segfaults if not run under valgrind 06:57 wasn't there STEED as a compile option way back when? 06:57 3.3.0 apparently 06:58 which was "way back when", 3.1.0 was even further back 07:08 -!- Demo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:08 -!- Demo has joined #hardfought 07:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Demo] by ChanServ 07:09 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Hum Nbn Neu), 399 points, T:604, killed by a bear trap 07:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1414 points, T:2165, killed by a gold golem, while taking off clothes 07:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:23 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2549 points, T:1047, killed by a death ray 07:24 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:31 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Dra Chn Nbn Law), 412 points, T:526, killed by a glass dart 07:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 67664 points, T:18058, killed by an invisible displacer beast 08:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 75713 points, T:15075, killed by a quinon 08:19 an invisible displacer beast should lose its displacement ability 08:19 ^ what the desktop hater said 08:19 mobileuser, but only if you can't see it 08:19 fair enough :-) 08:21 I wondered today (after being killed by an invisible vampire for test reasons) why the code doesn't distinguish between "invisible" and "transparent" 08:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 585 points, T:1309, killed by a mountain dwarf 08:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 08:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:11943 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12129 08:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:12136 08:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:12402 08:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:48 YANI ^ mobileuser idea 08:57 hmm, I'm not sure I really wanted to spend 2½ hours porting NetHack 3.1.0 to 64-bit Linux, but I've done it now 08:57 http://nethack4.org/media/nethack-3.1.0-linux.diff if anyone's interested (I also submitted this to bilious but it hasn't been approved yet) 08:57 epic! 08:58 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 14251 points, T:9778, killed by an energy vortex 09:01 nice one ais523 09:03 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 523 points, T:1373, killed by a kitten 09:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:9683 09:04 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 278 points, T:688, killed by a jackal 09:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10137 09:08 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 189 points, T:719, killed by a boulder 09:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10912 09:13 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 190 points, T:919, killed by a bolt of lightning 09:14 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 09:22 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Ang Fem Law), 1180 points, T:2249, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 09:26 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Pri Orc Fem Cha) had a an orcish ring mail bestowed upon her by Poseidon, on T:1771 09:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13265 09:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:13419 09:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:13465 09:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3408 09:35 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6382, rt[0:21:51] 09:35 -!- froggles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:35 -!- 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have to work today 10:05 and get paid for it 10:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] willspoke (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:62431 10:14 !who 10:14 K2: [hdf-us] ripley [nh343] samiam [nh343] khill [nh370] malor [dnh] hothraxxa [sp] eziono [xnh] dgoddard [xnh] karibou [gnoll] | [hdf-eu] willspoke [nh370] muahdib [un] mobileuser [xnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:39473 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5901 10:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:16261 10:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a black dragon corpse, on T:16506 10:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8801 10:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:16738 10:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the creature in the ice, on T:42262 10:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Levistus, on T:42262 10:27 speedkill 10:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1198 points, T:817, killed by a potion of confusion 10:28 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 10472 points, T:13503, killed by a tengu 10:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Big Room, on T:16970 10:31 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 12 points, T:51, killed by a sewer rat 10:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 5749 points, T:9883, killed by an owlbear 10:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:909 10:36 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:33731 10:38 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class U, on T:33759 10:38 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class L, on T:33760 10:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:1418 10:39 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 10:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4119 points, T:2240, killed by a gnome lord 10:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:42877 10:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43195 11:01 If you could change something in the code to add a difficulty from 1 to 100 percent what would you change ? like reducing the amount of magic lamp I dont know 11:02 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:02 <@Zefnar> Wym change the difficulty from 1-100? Like all the way up? 11:03 the only things I can think of that would fit a difficulty slider would be damage scaling or something, gnollhack does that with its difficulty modes 11:03 <@Zefnar> I think I’d start by modifying emergency/escape abilities. Maybe increase prayer timeout, encourage sacrificing after you pray 11:03 but it's not really that fun 11:05 <@Zefnar> Hades has a good difficulty modification system w the infernal contracts or whatever—I think you could take inspiration from those. Do stuff like modify hp regen schedules, prayer timeouts, hunger 11:05 <@Zefnar> Maybe start the game with a certain number of negative luck points 11:05 <@Zefnar> And then you could combine/stack these to make the game increasingly difficult 11:05 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:06 <@Zefnar> For example, if you only gained 1hp every 50 turns, or 100 turns, or never passively regain hp at all the game gets increasingly difficult. You would have to rely on prayer or potions 11:06 <@Zefnar> Then if you combine that with modifying prayer timeout…. 11:07 <@Zefnar> Seems impossible, but then, so does stuff like pacifist or vegan 11:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:15395 11:08 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 11:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Con Bat Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:4457 11:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Law), 19036 points, T:4261, petrified by a cockatrice 11:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:43836 11:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43836 11:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:43840 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 10684 points, T:4839, killed by a giant spider 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Orc Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:3077 11:20 I was thinking about recording someone ascension streak, each time you ascend in a streak the next has more probability of being really difficult, like a master lich in the mines 11:21 and it doesnt break the spirit of the game 11:22 lot of people view Tariru has the best player of nethack ever, and it was because he ascended more than 60+ time in a row I think 11:22 he streaked slex 11:22 anything that can streak slex isnt human 11:23 yes, you could also randomize the next variant you play 11:24 or randomize the class/race so more probability of having something harder next time 11:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Fire Brand, on T:3164 11:27 -!- callforjudgement has joined #hardfought 11:27 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:27 -!- callforjudgement has quit [Client Quit] 11:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3934 11:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 8463 points, T:3980, killed by a freezing sphere 11:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:45023 11:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:22833 11:40 <@Zefnar> What if you can only regen health if you’re standing still. So if you continue to move around and explore the level, that turn doesn’t count toward the health regen clock. Only turns spent standing on the same tile by pressing . or s count toward health regeneration 11:41 <@malor> That is how clockwork work in dNethack 11:41 <@Zefnar> Or, further, you have to #heal which forces you to stand still for # turns 11:41 <@Zefnar> Zefnar was killed by a coyote, while patching his wounds! 11:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:45109 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:40912 11:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4376819 points, T:45117, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/dnethack/dumplog/1630853509.dnh.txt 11:44 <@nabru> ADOM has something like that. Wounds can make you bleed and continually lose HP 11:44 <@nabru> Eventually the bleeding stops, or you can apply First Aid technique 11:46 <@malor> Gg Demo 11:46 <@Zefnar> Yea I like that 11:51 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Con Gno Mal Cha), 478 points, T:939, killed by a dwarf 12:02 it sounds kind of tedious to force the hero to stand still and rest up after each fight 12:02 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:02 game-balance-wise it sounds okay, but QoL-wise not so much 12:03 <@nabru> !ping 12:03 @nabru: Pong! 12:05 The thing about health break the spirit of the game in my view 12:05 * jonadab whistles innocently. 12:05 We could also force one or more conduct to do randomly 12:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1618 12:07 I like the ascension streak thing because the game stay still and it is easy to code, you have to increment a variable each time xlogfiles produce a "ascended" at the end of a game and if it something else the counter is reset 12:07 I wonder if you could record if a player has picken random with the current code 12:08 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Pri Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9694 12:09 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:09 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 12:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Con Gno Mal Cha), 267 points, T:677, killed by an iron ball collision 12:15 <@Zefnar> Well, they’d be optional difficulty modifiers was the idea yea? Just don’t use the health modifier then :P 12:17 yeah, I mean the problem, if a newcomer try 1000 games in one of those he is gonna have 3 blessed magic lamp before the mine 12:17 nethack make lots of use of RNG 12:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1677 points, T:1553, quit 12:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16083 12:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Reconnoiteress, on T:16138 12:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Con Gno Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2146 12:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Con Gno Mal Cha), 3082 points, T:2263, killed by a watch captain, while praying 12:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:24789 12:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Con Gno Mal Cha), 207 points, T:571, killed by an iron ball collision 12:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Con Gno Mal Cha), 474 points, T:779, crunched in the head by an iron ball 12:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1668 12:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Sceptre of Lolth, on T:2864 12:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 5238 points, T:4373, killed by a demilich 12:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Law), 28822 points, T:3776, killed by a shark 12:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:42 <@Zefnar> aosdict: yes, assuming you have to heal after every fight. makes you more inclined to carry a stack of daggers or a bow 12:42 <@Zefnar> When I play ranger, I can often kill things before they come close 12:42 <@Zefnar> When I play valk I’m lazy and just run up to stuff cause it doesn’t matter—I’ll just regen 12:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Con Gno Mal Cha), 2782 points, T:2082, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf 12:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:25740 12:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:25741 12:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:25753 12:52 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:54 yes thats a problem for ascension streak too, everyone will pick valk, so forcing to randomize a character fix that 12:54 but I dont know how to record if someone has picked random, I will see that later 12:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Premium Heart, on T:3856 12:59 The gnome deliberately jumps onto a polymorph trap! 12:59 L a lich (master lich) 12:59 kinda fucked now 13:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:01 yeah random master lich is bad luck but good players know how to deal with that since they can do 10+ win streak 13:01 I mean bad luck in real life not in game :p 13:01 @Zefnar again, a fair motive balance-wise, but I don't think punishing a gameplay style with an annoying interface is the right solution 13:02 "luck" vs "Luck" is the usual way to distinguish those 13:02 i don't think even tariru can deal with a master lich when he's xl9 orc priest 13:02 also, i don't think a 10 streak is the definition of a good player 13:03 nethack isnt about winning 13:03 lots of good players can't even put together back-to-back wins 13:03 what would be the definition of a good players then ? and is this possible to calculate it 13:03 nethack is about dying, demo. we all know this 13:04 Saxtheowl: that has been the subject of heated debate since almost the beginning 13:04 nethack is about stumbling onto a magic trap while fight and losing to the medusa titan 13:04 and it taming the titan 13:04 nethack is about carrots curing blindness as a stupid joke 13:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:26321 13:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:26322 13:05 <@ichbinmiah> team c for the win 13:05 I am very interested in this debate and are in the middle of a project that need information about that 13:05 z-score was an attempt to measure how good a player is. i am now #2 in z-score. doesn't make me the second best player by a long shot. there are lots of good players that have mediocre z-score 13:06 oh, I didnt know about z score 13:07 everyone with better zscore than me is a tryhard, and everyone with worse zscore is a scrub :^) 13:07 <@Zefnar> hmmm. I wonder if there is a way to ENCOURAGE more health-defensive behavior like using daggers as valk without making it PUNITIVE. Positive reinforcement vs negative punishment kind of thing, you know? 13:07 this master lich hasn't killed me yet. i wonder what's holding him up 13:07 <@Zefnar> So instead of taking away health regen, maybe there’s a way to influence behavior by granting a benefit ? 13:07 This list is compiled by looking at each player's ascensions. Your Z Score for a role is the number of times you've ascended that role, with a twist. The first ascension in a role is worth 1 point, the next 1/2 points, the next 1/3 points, and so on. This means it's worthwhile to spread your ascensions out evenly (since your eighteenth wizard ascension is worth .0556 points while your first caveman 13:07 is worth 1 full point). 13:07 In other words, this is meant to be an alternative to the best all around players which is (in some eyes) flawed because it considers score, and score is not a very good estimator of ability. 13:09 z-score does not consider game scaore 13:09 -a 13:09 where did you get that? 13:09 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/scoreboard/4k-zscores/ 13:10 * hothraxxa glares at k2 13:10 I think z score is a great idea 13:10 hothraxxa: I think it means the thing it's an alternative to considers score 13:10 The word "alternative" hints at that to some degree :-) 13:10 there used to be a highscores on the hardfought site I think which went by score 13:10 yeah, it's poorly worded 13:11 It's quite clearly worded to me. 13:11 I like the idea of the Z-score, either, though I don't know who invented the term 'Z-score' (which already has a meaning in statistics) 13:11 ? 13:11 why you glaring at me hothraxxa 13:11 I already tried blaming aosdict for it in the hopes they'd know really named it, but that strategy failed 13:12 know who really named it* 13:12 1 + 1/2 + ... is the harmonic series, so maybe 'harmonic score' or something? 13:12 pinkbeast: it is not because it does not unamibiguosly state that "best all round players" is decided by score 13:12 we can try blaming mandevil? 13:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] knnn (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 2080315 points, T:61140, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 13:12 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Town, on T:16799, rt[4:14:48] 13:12 ouch at that death 13:12 !lastgame knnn 13:12 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/knnn/slashem/dumplog/1630277316.slashem.txt 13:12 alt.org had Z-scores for a long time before I joined the nethack community 13:12 also, Saxtheowl dont use hdf scoreboard, they've been retired. not updated anymore 13:12 hothraxxa: "best all around players which is flawed because it considers score" 13:13 use nethackscoreboard.org 13:13 * hothraxxa shrugs 13:13 You jump down the hole. 13:13 Falling, you touch the cockatrice corpse. 13:13 You turn to stone... 13:13 D: 13:13 wow 13:13 as a life-long editor i disagree 13:13 * hothraxxa appeals to credentials and therefore wins 13:15 * K2 glares back at hothraxxa for glaring at him 13:15 i dont even know why i'm glaring 13:15 1/3 for each same role seem quite hard, but I dont know nethack enough... Also the first role will still always be valkyrie, so we still have to force random for the first game 13:16 hothraxxa it's crazy how you've got so much z-score and still have loads of variants untouched 13:17 hax 13:17 guessing it jumps a lot when you start a new variant 13:17 <@Shadow_Rider> I kinda like the way z score works 13:17 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Pri Orc Fem Cha), 20165 points, T:11344, killed by an Olog-hai 13:17 <@Shadow_Rider> Even though I haven’t really won any variants 13:20 hrm. the scoreboard has 18 variants. one is unavailable (acehack) and i've ascended 11 of the other 17 13:20 two of the unsascended ones are slex and dnslex 13:22 <@Shadow_Rider> Think of all the z score potential with slex 13:22 <@Shadow_Rider> So many roles to choose from 13:22 oh and i don't play dnh so there's two more accounted for 13:23 that leaves slashem and slashthem, which i've only tried in june 13:23 also gnollhack isn't there and i've ascended that 13:24 * K2 pokes stella 13:24 aoei, ad gnollhack to the NHS already 13:24 &add 13:24 *add 13:24 DOO EET 13:24 hothraxxa why were you eye-balling me earlier 13:25 the statement that i was questioning about z-score comes from your hardfought page 13:25 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Big Room, on T:17705, rt[4:28:02] 13:25 which comes from NAO 13:25 pinkbeast is okay with ti though 13:25 does it? 13:25 yeah 13:25 ok 13:25 what's the problem exactly? 13:26 i don't think it's clear that "best all round players" means a list by score 13:27 slashem and slashthem would be really straightforward for you probably 13:27 possibly. i've never tried 13:28 main reason is that i have always tried to do first-to-ascend and older variants have all those done already 13:28 slashem doesn't 13:29 barely anyone's played it on public servers so there's only 23 ascs atm 13:29 and slashthem has 1 ascension ever on a public server heh 13:29 -!- Looksfar has joined #hardfought 13:30 it's like free real estate 13:30 well i assumed they had, but i don't know how to find out 13:30 no fta table for those on the scoreboard 13:31 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:34062 13:31 for variants that don't have a 'first to ascend' table on the nethackhighscores I just check the ascended games list 13:31 for example https://nethackscoreboard.org/ascended.slashthem.html 13:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 385 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:28435 13:34 Stroller has the best z score rank for Nethack but he is not even in the https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Notable_Players page :( 13:40 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 13:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:28852 13:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:18958 13:43 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 13:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28977 13:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29168 13:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 570 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:29306 13:52 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 14:00 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu), 61447 points, T:20525, petrified by a cockatrice 14:00 <@nabru> !lastgame timelost 14:00 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/timelost/unnethack/dumplog/1630596201.un.txt.html 14:01 Saxtheowl, the notable players page on the wiki has needed an update for awhile now 14:02 there are a handful of players that deserve a place there that arent listed 14:02 yeah where am I 14:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:30722 14:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:30724 14:03 * hothraxxa takes away amateurhour's potions of confusion 14:04 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Using Circe, the loveliest of all IRC clients] 14:06 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:34340 14:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered the Big Room, on T:20203 14:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:31122 14:08 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 20338 points, T:5957, killed by a soldier ant 14:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:15835 14:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Herbalist, on T:31280 14:11 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 600 points, T:2690, killed by a small mimic 14:21 <@nabru> !variant 14:21 @nabru: nh370 14:22 hmmm 14:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a priest of Moloch), on T:31610 14:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Kni Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:315 14:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a priest of Moloch), on T:31617 14:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:31729 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh4] philipp (Sam Hum Mal Law), 12561 points, T:700, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse 14:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:31737 14:30 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Qwell (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 253 points, T:1126, killed by a gnome 14:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 70616 points, T:21492, killed by a zruty 14:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Bin Dro Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:2257 14:44 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown, on T:1471, rt[0:10:22] 14:44 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:1497, rt[0:10:34] 14:45 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:1552, rt[0:11:32] 14:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:19198 14:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Bin Dro Fem Non) was given Hellrider's Saddle, on T:7343 14:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Kni Hlf Fem Law), 5009 points, T:1897, quit 14:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Cav Hum Fem Law), 87 points, T:216, killed by a black pudding 14:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:33857 14:52 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:9589, rt[0:14:17] 14:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Bin Dro Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8772 14:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:22115 14:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:57 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Roamer, on T:43580 14:58 <@Pacra> yep, there's 78291 at the top 14:58 <@Pacra> one of the best roguelike players, full stop 15:00 ok this can't be good 15:00 i am on dl3. i just found my fifth bag of holding 15:00 <@Pacra> that's absurd 15:01 <@Pacra> !whereis hothraxxa 15:01 @Pacra: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [sp]: (Pri Orc Mal Cha) T:1093 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 15:01 well three of them were in a shop, but yeah 15:01 <@Zefnar> Don’t worry, luck balances out 15:01 <@Zefnar> You’ll find a room full of shocking spheres soon 15:01 <@Doesnt> that means you're due for five arch-liches in lower mines right 15:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1074 15:03 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:12111, rt[0:25:24] 15:04 lucky muahdib 15:05 dragonbane gets you through the dragon caves 15:06 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:12668, rt[0:27:59] 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed arbelf's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2581 15:09 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3929 points, T:13217, killed by a wolf 15:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed holy symbol of the black mother", on T:20937 15:14 -!- HumboldtSquid has joined #hardfought 15:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:23671 15:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 990 points, T:2102, killed by a soldier ant, while sleeping 15:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Metals, on T:23998 15:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Bin Dro Fem Non) was given Werebane, on T:13836 15:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) murdered Sirius, her faithful little dog, on T:49 15:24 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:35410 15:33 <@malor> This list is pretty interesting but not very long. I feel like a longer list with quite a few other notables would be interesting. Also it has some outdated info at this point. 15:33 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1897 points, T:5874, killed by a giant ant 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 3306 points, T:5195, killed by a wand 15:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1882 15:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Bin Dro Fem Non), 133811 points, T:21752, killed by an elven arrow 15:40 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 583 points, T:2338, killed by a kobold lord 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Mal Una) averted death (killed by a mountain dwarf), on T:2890 15:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 851244 points, T:35601, killed by an invisible Archon (with the Amulet) 15:43 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6476, rt[0:53:07] 15:44 <@ichbinmiah> !lastgame ichbinmiah 15:44 @ichbinmiah: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/i/ichbinmiah/nethack/dumplog/1610787953.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/i/ichbinmiah/nethack/dumplog/1630846972.nh.html 15:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 fireproof boots of speed", on T:2384 15:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:25594 15:46 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1370, rt[0:06:01] 15:47 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 730 points, T:1416, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:47 ouch ichbinmiah :-( 15:47 <@riker> !ho 15:47 <@riker> !who 15:47 @riker: [hdf-us] ripley [nh343] LoadedDice [nh370] winny [nh370] kilroymyboy [nh370] timelost [un] KrO2 [dnh] verdeescuro [dnh] Demo [dnh] hothraxxa [sp] dgoddard [xnh] MrsCasaubon [xnh] Pacra [evil] karibou [gnoll] | [hdf-eu] muahdib [un] Vis [dnh] HarmathZsolt [slshm] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:48 <@ichbinmiah> threaded the needle a little too much there. No worries, will get 'em next time 15:49 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 103 points, T:310, killed by a sewer rat 15:51 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:52 aw rip 15:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:26522 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] kilroymyboy (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 187 points, T:932, killed by a dwarf 15:55 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1244, rt[0:05:13] 15:55 <@Pacra> I just tried to geno shocking spheres 15:55 <@Pacra> and eh gods basically said "nope haha no" 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) genocided black dragons, on T:69716 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Mal Una) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4171 15:56 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of teleport control", on T:35359 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] kilroymyboy (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:257 15:59 Pacra in evilhack? 16:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:26592 16:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6542 16:00 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3221, rt[0:10:59] 16:02 I assume K2 made all spheres ungenocidable because of spells that summon spheres 16:02 ^ that 16:03 goddam orctown again 16:04 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4093, rt[0:14:23] 16:04 K2: pfft. wouldn't it make more sense to allow monsters geno those spheres? 16:04 well this was before the new sphere explosion bits 16:04 <@malor> Who made the notable players page? 16:05 i may allow some types to be geno'd in future 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:10580 16:06 malor: mandevil did 16:06 <@Shadow_Rider> click on "view history" 16:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Apotheosis Veil, on T:8361 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10904 16:10 <@malor> ah right, thanks. 16:11 <@malor> My favorite inclusion on the notable players list is "post164" and his "died attempting to saddle pony" on turn 1 system 🙂 16:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby purple worm, on T:3451 16:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:27874 16:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8754 16:13 <@Pacra> K2, exactly that, I was trying to geno shocking spheres ;] 16:14 next version i'll make shocking/acid spheres genocidable 16:15 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 16:18 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Pri Orc Fem Cha), 11577 points, T:4836, killed by an orc-captain 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide boots of water walking", on T:69885 16:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:28573 16:24 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:6557, rt[0:34:13] 16:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Fire Brand, on T:10253 16:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2958 16:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased Wallet of Perseus", on T:10660 16:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:20720 16:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3095 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 4 points, T:135, killed by a falling rock 16:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:28810 16:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3101 16:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given the Fluorite Octahedron, on T:12281 16:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Axus, on T:30466 16:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Big Room, on T:21375 16:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29323 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:70243 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:46896 16:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:3262 16:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:14490 16:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30580 16:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "3 scrolls of genocide", on T:30222 16:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:30224 16:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:30224 16:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class U, on T:30225 16:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:30385 16:46 -!- Looksfar has joined #hardfought 16:48 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9082, rt[0:58:50] 16:49 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:36714 16:50 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3859 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:14536 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3852 points, T:3148, killed by a bolt of fire 16:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5841 16:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:55 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:10704, rt[1:32:23] 16:56 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Car Chn Fem Law), 568 points, T:1125, killed by a gnome 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:3329 17:00 looks like you'll be able to buy extra lives in gnollhack in the future or something 17:00 and there's mention of demo version and possibility of buying full version 17:00 whack 17:01 -!- potato44 has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:01 hmmmmmm 17:01 oh sorry that probably pinged you lol 17:01 nope 17:02 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3547 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Sam Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3615 17:03 so what I said in https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3021 might become reality 17:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the first wraithworm, on T:14888 17:04 basically if you go too deep any branch except the mines it quits 17:04 or saves(?) 17:04 I guess when you reload it shows some kind of modal about buying it 17:04 haha nabru I guess so! 17:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:41189 17:05 someone should spite them and host "cracked" binaries that are the exact same but no demo limit paywall 17:05 haha 17:06 but its not cracked its just a modified version of the compiled code they have to make public per license 17:07 trollhack 17:08 ...am I the only person that hums a few bars of "Popeye the Sailor Man" whenever their character eats a tin of spinach? 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:47096 17:09 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:11486, rt[1:46:47] 17:13 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:41686 17:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1610 17:21 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:10795 17:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:77965 17:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5717 17:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given the Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala, on T:21192 17:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:5873 17:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:42442 17:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:568 17:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:42463 17:34 -!- APic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Mal Una) rejected atheism by offering a large mimic corpse on an altar of Anshar, on T:11878 17:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Student of Winds, on T:31033 17:49 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:49 amateurhour: yeah the thing about gnollhack is it might have some cool stuff but their disconnect from the community means that they don't really get roguelikes culture 17:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed +3 fixed greased tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:33863 17:50 the signs of them trying to monetize it have been pretty clear for a long time though 17:51 Demo: yeah I fail to see why this wouldn't be immediately forked and the paywalls torn down by whoever has an interest in keeping it playable 17:52 -!- tacco has quit [] 17:53 <@Doesnt> "added hardcore mode" 17:53 <@Doesnt> a feature never before seen in nethack 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:47945 17:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:34093 17:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Student of Fire, on T:32472 17:58 <@Zefnar> I thought the agreement was that if you use the open source code for nethack your variant has to also be open source/free to play ? 17:59 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Con Chn Fem Cha), 12 points, T:110, killed by a sewer rat 18:01 the NetHack General Public License is pretty outdated, but for the most part it's similar to early versions of the GPL. 18:02 <@Zefnar> One of my professors in college was a copyright law pedant , worked in aesthetics/philosophy of art, entertained all sorts of silly hypothetical situations/arguments 18:02 <@Zefnar> I wonder if he’s aware of nethack and its variants 18:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:34474 18:03 copyright isn't really the concern here except as the main barrier to getting nethack relicensed under something more modern (because there's code in there from people who have long since disappeared but nevertheless could still hold copyright) 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Cronos (Inf Ith Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:12720 18:05 reading the NGPL text, it looks like if the gnollhack folks said "okay, we're not pushing changes to github anymore, but we're still making updates and you can buy the game binaries from us" that's a clear license violation. 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3380 18:05 <@Zefnar> Wouldn’t it be copyright tho if they’re trying to charge people money for it? I don’t really understand law. I do think it’s shitty to use the bulk of someone’s work that they made free and make money off of it. 18:06 <@Zefnar> I mean I get that they put work into making it different, but ehhhh… bad vibe 18:06 but if they put it on a server and said "you still can't see the source code, but you can pay us to unlock premium features" I'm not sure if they're actually violating the license. It was written long before the idea of playing the game remotely was even conceived. 18:08 I believe AGPL would prevent the proprietary-derivative-on-a-server case, but plain old GPL would allow it. 18:08 NGPL does not compel you to publish any changes you make to the source. 18:09 Only if you distribute the game must you also distribute the source, and I'm not sure hosting your game on a server counts as distributing it 18:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:37367 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 68 points, T:643, killed by a kobold 18:16 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 18:21 i don't think gnollhack is played enough for them to make anything from it 18:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Wallet of Perseus, on T:35599 18:21 oh jesus 18:22 i don't see it ever getting popular enough to be a money-maker 18:22 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Dra Elf Fem Neu), 3299 points, T:2489, killed by a gnome 18:22 what's wrong with the wallet, demo? i thought it was a poor man's bag of the hesperides 18:23 i wished for tie-dye shirt 18:23 im good on carry cap and i dont need to be better 18:23 ha ha 18:23 also its gonna be a lot of work to move shit over to it 18:23 yes when is some developer ever gona devleop a container transfer? 18:23 gonna develope 18:23 i've asked for that numerous times 18:24 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 18:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 272 points, T:1947, killed by a homunculus 18:24 -!- APic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25 that sounds like an xnh qol feature 18:25 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Con Orc Nbn Cha), 175 points, T:575, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 18:25 yes! xnh should definitely have that 18:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 17138 points, T:9033, killed by a white unicorn 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1071 points, T:1673, killed by a small mimic 18:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:38810 18:28 xnh DOES have that 18:28 are you pulling my leg 18:28 probably my leg 18:28 i did not know that 18:29 it's a fairly recent feature but yes we have container transfer now 18:29 wow 18:29 excellent 18:30 xhn is still 3.6.6 based? 18:30 no it's 3.7 based but I haven't merged vanilla in a long time (will do before releasing 7.0 which is not that far away) 18:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Oona, on T:38959 18:30 i can't keep track any more 18:31 evilhack is still 3.6.whatever 18:31 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Inf Fem Law), 338 points, T:1075, killed by a shotgun shell 18:31 i've been playing unnh and bhaak has imported some 3.6+ stuff. i think it's still 3.4.3 based though 18:32 confusing 18:32 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Wer Fem Cha), 4 points, T:85, killed by a serval 18:32 i took out a pet with cleaver not realizing it had the 3.6 arc 18:32 also has 3.6+ bugle, which i liked 18:33 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Gno Nbn Neu), 3 points, T:69, killed by a jackal, while reading a book 18:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:36122 18:34 hisssss 18:35 shit item, god should feel bad 18:41 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 732 points, T:1089, killed by a dwarf 18:42 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 18:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Shield of Yggdrasil, on T:36667 18:44 god hater 18:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:6691 18:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:9223 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2294 points, T:1585, killed by a giant bat, while dressing up 18:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Sir Garland, on T:40011 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Looksfar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2579 18:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9532 18:51 Son of a bitch. Orctown. 18:51 Where my games go to die. 18:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the Nightmare, on T:40449 18:52 <@nabru> Indeed. Orctown sux. 18:52 Whelp, time to turn around for now. No poison resistance yet, Mordor Orcs would moida me. 18:54 What really sucks is I likely had enough gems to buy protection. That's right out the window now. 18:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mon Bat Mal Cha), 3450 points, T:1194, killed by a soldier ant 18:57 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Dwa Mal Neu), 209 points, T:297, killed by a tower of flame 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49866 19:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Helm of Undeath, on T:37132 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:49877 19:01 interesting play lolth 19:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Reconnoiteress, on T:11253 19:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:37333 19:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:37380 19:08 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Rog Wer Fem Cha), 637 points, T:1420, killed by a gnome 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:50035 19:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:37564 19:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:37607 19:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Garland, on T:37932 19:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Chaos, on T:37960 19:13 -!- bramhoven has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in] 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed wmahan's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3460 19:14 -!- bramhoven has joined #hardfought 19:15 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Chn Fem Law), 486 points, T:1056, killed by a bone dart 19:15 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:17 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Bar Dop Mal Cha) killed the ghost of nabru, the former Fighter, on T:6382 19:19 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Con Hum Fem Cha), 146 points, T:889, killed by a small mimic 19:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:42251 19:26 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Orc Nbn Cha), 252 points, T:749, killed by a wand 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:50411 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:50414 19:31 [hdf-us] [sp] hothraxxa (Pri Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3049 19:34 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Gno Mal Neu), 427 points, T:851, killed by a baby white dragon 19:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:39135 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:50668 19:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:15661 19:43 -!- HumboldtSquid has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:46 orctown three times in a row. fuck spork 19:46 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Bar Dop Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:9285 19:46 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:49 !lastgame 19:49 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zor/splicehack/dumplog/1630970831.splice.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1630926878.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bragi/nethack/dumplog/1630957686.nh.html 19:49 !lastgame hothraxxa 19:49 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/sporkhack/dumplog/1630952613.sp.txt 19:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Diana, on T:14453 19:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:15789 19:50 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Gul Mal Law), 1667 points, T:1973, killed by a giant fly 19:50 hrm 19:50 k2: my last spork game is not showing up 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4825 19:52 -!- unit327[m] has joined #hardfought 19:55 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 391 points, T:684, killed by a gnome 20:00 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Rog Gul Fem Cha), 372 points, T:814, killed by a dwarf 20:02 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Bar Dop Mal Cha) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:10978 20:05 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 417 points, T:734, killed by a pony 20:06 -!- Kilroy has joined #hardfought 20:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:41420 20:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed +3 fixed greased apotheosis veil", on T:41591 20:14 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Cav Vam Nbn Law), 312 points, T:550, killed by a wand 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Arc Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:11849 20:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed A'gone, on T:42033 20:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) became Diana's Envoy of Balance, on T:16234 20:29 hothraxxa its because the dumplog file for that game is zero bytes 20:29 how did you die in that game? and did you notice anything odd? 20:31 -!- ChrisANG is now known as Chris_ANG 20:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Law) became the Blade of Ver'tas, on T:42544 20:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:45300 20:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:45311 20:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:16792 20:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:45462 20:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the invisible Garland, on T:45701 20:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Chaos, on T:45871 20:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:24251 20:57 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Dan Orc Fem Cha), 551 points, T:1224, killed by an orc zombie 20:58 !ping 20:58 nabru: Pong! 21:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 5129 points, T:5039, killed by an elven arrow 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1840 21:04 <@Zefnar> lmao 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Val Dwa Fem Law), 984 points, T:1897, killed by a wand 21:04 <@Zefnar> want stole my wand of striking on soko 1 and went crazy cracking boulders 21:05 <@Zefnar> "hey. hey what are you doing with that? hey stop that! hey put the wand down!!!" 21:05 <@Zefnar> nymph stole* sorry my brain 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 687 points, T:2258, killed by a bat 21:11 the nymph stole your brain too? 21:13 -!- froggles has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Great Cthulhu, on T:44059 21:14 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu), 22301 points, T:11901, killed by a touch of death 21:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) destroyed puncake's ghost, the former Magician, on T:18921 21:15 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Bar Gul Nbn Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2212 21:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47000 21:16 <@Zefnar> no i droped my brain in the sink on Dlvl 1 21:18 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Bar Gul Nbn Neu), 3525 points, T:2678, killed by a gnome lord 21:19 YASI: "Organ nymph" that runs away with your stats, represented by potions of gain ability generating in her inventory 21:23 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1344, rt[0:08:37] 21:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:44412 21:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:49368 21:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:30 <@Pacra> holy shit, three is wild 21:30 <@Pacra> @ hothraxxa, RE: orctown three times in a row 21:30 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown, on T:2071, rt[0:15:37] 21:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:49377 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:52023 21:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Daemon, on T:49416 21:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:49471 21:36 [hdf-us] [un] timelost (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:2610, rt[0:21:40] 21:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the adventuring wizard, on T:16303 21:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the half-elf ranger, on T:16303 21:38 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 21:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the Rebel Ringleader, on T:16303 21:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the militant cleric, on T:16304 21:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45461 21:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:45780 21:48 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Obox-ob, on T:49749 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1233 22:01 -!- x86Cow has joined #hardfought 22:01 Hey 22:01 Hello x86Cow, Welcome to #hardfought 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1623 22:02 aaaaaaaaand I just got orctown. meh 22:03 just ragequit that game, not in the mood to deal with it 22:04 wassup x86Cow 22:05 Kinda upset lmao, I spent 45 minutes on floor one not being able to find the stairs then died of food poisoning lmao 22:05 oof 22:05 what game/variant were you playing? 22:05 I'm not sure, just downloaded it off the arch repo 22:06 ah 22:06 I have a hardfought account but I dont really play on it 22:06 prefer to play local vs online? 22:06 playing local means much less lag 22:07 yeah depending on where you are, that's very true 22:07 Idk I just never have the energy to ssh into hardfought lmao 22:07 hah 22:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:16410 22:08 how can i figure out what version im playing lol 22:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:29347 22:08 <@riker> tell me about it. ever since k2 started fining people for every splat hardfought has really gone downhill 22:08 <@riker> hit v in game x86Cow 22:08 omg riker I will disown you 22:08 if you downloaded it from the repos, you're probably playing 3.6 22:08 alright 22:08 <@riker> hey that's twice in one lifetime k2. im impressed 22:08 Yeah 3.6 I just checked 22:08 but yeah, hit 'v' in game it'll show you version info 22:08 <@riker> (i've been disowned, not you disowning me) 22:09 <@riker> 😎 22:09 here hold my beer 22:09 <@riker> ok dad 22:09 were you actually disowned though? damn 22:09 Is there a difference between human and dwarf for valkyrie 22:09 x86Cow yes 22:09 yes, dwarf means easier gnomish mines 22:09 also stats 22:09 dwarven valks have an easier early game 22:10 Ok, I just started today basicly. Pretty fun game 22:10 <@riker> last i talked to my dad he told me to reevaluate my life choices and not talk to him until i did lmfao 22:10 even if you have a good connection, you will notice that its so much nicer in terms of latency to play locally but servers are so fun 22:10 <@riker> he's not really on the up and up with The Gays 22:10 ugh 22:10 :( 22:10 <@Zefnar> Ah, sorry man 22:10 <@riker> nothing of real value was lost 22:10 <@Zefnar> understandable, my relationship w dad’s not so good either 22:10 <@riker> to clarify - dwarves have more peaceful dudes in the mines 22:10 <@riker> aka dwarves and gnomes iirc. which makes the mines easier 22:11 x86Cow welcome to the time suck aka nethack hahah 22:11 <@riker> since things like minetown can have run changing things like wishes dwarf is pretty poggers early game 22:11 prepare for lost productivity across the board 22:11 Lmao 22:11 <@riker> k2 i've hit a balance of 'do a single decent run, when it dies i'm done for the night' so far 22:11 <@riker> i do nethack then hades then play celeste until I fall asleep :p 22:12 <@Zefnar> I played… so much when I was trying to get that first ascension I still feel a bit burnt out 22:12 <@riker> ^ 22:12 i'm stuck in another coding spree. i prob wont play again until i get next version of evilhack finished 22:12 <@riker> remember to take breaks pre june @Zefnar 22:12 soooon 22:12 and then there's tnnt prep 22:12 <@riker> i try not to play nethack from like, april on, so i'm fresh for junethack 22:12 <@Zefnar> I keep hearing about this, it’s a big to-do, eh? 22:12 <@riker> otherwise i tend to get really tired of nethack on like the 10th 22:13 <@Zefnar> Prizes or summat? 22:13 <@riker> lol 22:13 <@riker> you get a shiny badge for your clan 22:13 x86Cow there's a nethack tournament every november called TNNT (the november nethack tournament) you should check it out. it caters to all skill levels 22:13 <@riker> that goes away post july give or take 22:13 If you do 5 and then a direction does it count as one turn? 22:13 <@riker> i enjoy playing variants more than vanilla so junethack is fun for me 22:13 <@riker> x86Cow what's 5 do again? move? 22:13 its like move as far as possible 22:13 yeah its a numpad thing 22:13 <@Zefnar> it’s equivalent to capital M I believe? Moves you to nearest interesting tile 22:13 <@riker> nope that's a turn per square 22:13 <@Zefnar> Like corners, doors 22:14 <@Zefnar> next* interesting tile 22:14 <@riker> it was either capital move or search lol 22:14 Zenfar yup 22:14 err Zefnar 22:14 <@riker> since i think s is save in numpad but idk 22:14 ZZtop 22:14 Wait it moves to the next interesting tile? 22:14 <@Zefnar> nope s is search in numpad 22:14 -!- riker has joined #hardfought 22:14 i feel like having irc open today 22:15 <@Zefnar> you press 5 and pick a direction and it moves you in a straight line in that direction until you encounter something interesting 22:15 <@Zefnar> Like a corner or an object or a monster 22:15 oh wack i could've sworn s was save. w/e 22:15 <@Zefnar> Maybe capital S? I just use #save 22:15 x86Cow take a few min to skim over the guidebook, it has answers for all of the basic questions and then some 22:15 Captial S is save 22:15 yes capital S is for vikeys too 22:15 i must be thinking of a different key 22:16 RTFG (Read the Fabulous Gudebook) 22:16 *Guidebook 22:16 there's also this - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Commands 22:16 <@Zefnar> should’ve known there’d be an acronym for it lmao 22:16 Acryonyms are life 22:17 nabru: fabulous, hmm 22:17 <@Zefnar> For all of its glorious information the guidebook is not the most stimulating read. I have to guess most folks learned with a good combo of figure-it-out-as-you-go and looking it up when you get bored/stuck/frustrating is 22:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:13672 22:18 <@Zefnar> Frustrated* 22:19 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:19 <@Shadow_Rider> i read pretty much the whole guidebook before playing 22:19 <@Shadow_Rider> and most of this https://alt.org/nethack/mirror/homepage.mac.com/mhjohnson/mag-r342.html 22:20 my approach usually is "read the guidebook to get the hang of the basics, then figure things as you go" 22:20 Is their any benifit of playing on the server other then my non-existent friends could watch 22:21 heh 22:21 <@Shadow_Rider> play variants 22:21 <@Shadow_Rider> 3.7 versin 22:21 it keeps you honest. no way to save-scum on a public server 22:21 play the holy variant 22:21 3.4.3 22:21 play the variants, get bones files from other players, have Beholder livelog you, you cannot savescum 22:21 from which all good things are derived 22:21 ./s 22:21 plus when you win, you can show off your dumplog to everyone, its all tracked here - https://nethackscoreboard.org 22:22 Il try on the server once i die of food poisoning again lol 22:23 <@Shadow_Rider> the other awesome thing is that all the experienced nethack players can spectate you and start providing an endless barrage of suggestions and advice of how you should play 22:23 <@Zefnar> Bones files and the chat are good reasons yea 22:23 lol ok 22:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Bael, on T:47799 22:24 n30s is your best friend 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2873 22:24 <@Zefnar> Somehow it feels more real also? Genuine. offline play feels like practice mode lol 22:24 when searching for a secret door/passage, use 'n30s' 22:25 Alright 22:25 <@Shadow_Rider> wait what does n do 22:25 repeat 22:25 <@Zefnar> number 22:25 <@Shadow_Rider> oh lmao 22:25 shadow you use vikeys? n20 is juts the same as 20 22:25 <@Zefnar> number (how many) 30 (what?) search 22:26 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah gotch 22:26 <@Shadow_Rider> ohhhh i get it now 22:26 boom in the server 22:26 since 20 would be like, k and then whatever 0 does 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] raykoee (Cav Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3241 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] raykoee (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3350 22:28 if you have negative luck, it affects your chances for a successful search, so on days like friday the 13th, n40s might be needed 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] raykoee (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3571 22:30 <@Zefnar> Are y’all gonna judge me if I tell you just spam s key when searching for doors ? 22:30 <@Zefnar> I use n30s to recover lost hp tho 22:30 hah i do the same 22:30 <@Shadow_Rider> yes 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3407 22:30 i use 55. to recover hp 22:30 i definitely hold down keys when trying to kill stuff like blue jellies a lot 22:30 do I die from it? occasionally 22:30 <@Shadow_Rider> i do 234. 22:30 <@Zefnar> Oh I never hold a key down but I will jackhammer the shit out of it 22:30 * NetSysFire gives riker some stuff to throw at blue jellies 22:31 riding keys is a good way to die :) 22:31 ask me how I know this 22:31 go ahead 22:31 <@Shadow_Rider> how do you know this k2 22:31 throwing rocks is too close to playing a ranger sorry NetSysFire 22:31 <@Zefnar> YASDDDDDDDDD 22:31 because I DID IT AND I DIED 22:31 i will die on the hill of 'projectile spam is boring' 22:31 lmfao 22:31 <@Zefnar> It’s not spam if you launch five arrows at once 22:31 <@Shadow_Rider> what does riding keys mean 22:31 <@Zefnar> :^) 22:32 hold key down 22:32 <@Shadow_Rider> ah k 22:32 Zefnar spamming a key is so much effort tho 22:32 shadow_rider, pressing and holding down a key and consequences be damned 22:32 lol 22:32 <@Shadow_Rider> i do that a lot in the early game 22:32 you have to move your poor fingers so mcuh 22:32 <@Zefnar> I got light switches in my keyboard 22:32 <@Shadow_Rider> the hallways where there is a fork but ctrl move cant get you there 22:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed engagement ring", on T:48181 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] raykoee (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 2324 points, T:4328, killed by an owlbear 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 141 points, T:627, poisoned by a rotted orc corpse 22:35 hey k2 got any coredump for dnh? grazzt attacked me and knocked me off my steed then attacked it a bit and it crashed 22:36 lemme look 22:36 yup. one moment 22:37 what are core dumps? 22:38 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:38 Demo - https://termbin.com/4s2y 22:38 oh so its like a log 22:39 I coulda figured that out lmao 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4533 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:4544 22:40 its a info dump of when the program crashes 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4563 22:40 you can use it to figure out what happened and why 22:42 yeah i have no idea whats going on and im tired 22:42 im just not gonna fight grazzt 22:42 stole his loot already lol 22:43 heh 22:43 alright goin to bed, gnite all 22:43 'night 22:43 Ah yes killed by a wand wonderful. gn 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 120 points, T:789, killed by a wand 22:43 x86Cow, welcome to hardfought, feel free to hang out 22:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "the orb of fate", on T:21177 22:52 <@Pacra> x86Cow, welcome 22:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Garnet Rod, on T:52465 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 227 points, T:1165, killed by a gecko 22:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1344 22:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:21244 22:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Scout, on T:21244 22:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21247 23:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:50262 23:03 -!- x86Cow has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:33743 23:14 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest182 23:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) was given Apotheosis Veil, on T:33929 23:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50460 23:18 -!- Guest182 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:53109 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:53264 23:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:50763 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:53275 23:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:50796 23:29 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 23:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:50908 23:32 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:53313 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 1699897 points, T:53319, killed by a priestess of Moloch (with the Amulet) 23:38 D:! 23:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] MrsCasaubon (Ran Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:22904 23:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 13541 points, T:8676, killed by a wolf, while fainted from lack of food 23:40 dumb death 23:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:51448 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] kilroymyboy (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2293 23:46 Oh man, with a caveman too. Those are a hard role... 23:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:51549 23:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Death, on T:51552 23:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] verdeescuro (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the invisible Grue, on T:55760 23:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:51582 23:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) received the helm of the Dark Lord, on T:16930 23:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Famine, on T:51612 23:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 8545778 points, T:51628, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1630694424.dnh.txt 23:59 congrats!