00:05 <@Pacra> > In a cloud of smoke, a djinni emerges! The djinni speaks. "You disturbed me, fool!" "I think I'll keep this wish for myself!" > The djinni makes a wish for a figurine of a vorpal jabberwock! > The djinni activates a figurine! 00:05 <@Pacra> O__O 00:07 lol 00:07 Fat F incoming 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 25388 points, T:16157, withered away, while praying 00:15 <@Pacra> Umbire: yeah, this seems like a tough char to get going 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:3122 00:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:21 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 00:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:30 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 366 points, T:1070, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 00:31 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 57 points, T:455, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 00:39 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:41 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1655, rt[0:09:41] 00:47 !lastgame Pacra 00:47 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/Pacra/evilhack/dumplog/1630031635.evil.html 00:48 Pacra, as a protip you can safely #turn undead around XL 6, so you don't even need to engage in melee with them past a certain point 00:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) was given their Quest, on T:18391 00:49 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown, on T:2838, rt[0:17:44] 00:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 252573 points, T:18990, killed by a rock troll, while frozen by a potion 00:52 <@Pacra> Umbire, haha hell, got orctown 00:52 <@Pacra> thank you for tip I almost always ignore #turn in other variants 00:53 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire bat, on T:3101, rt[0:21:25] 00:53 #turn is always p. dece in my experience 00:53 Also if orctown then turn back immediately 00:53 The poison res threshold that stops instadeath is 35% iirc 00:53 From what someone else told me 00:55 I prefer to face it with complete resistance because unless I can readily cast restore ability it ain't worth the hassle for me 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] yen0 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3681 00:55 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 3222 points, T:3436, killed by a watch captain 00:55 -!- Guest001 has joined #hardfought 00:57 Wow. that was weird. Playing Evil, there were a bunch of zombies on the other side of a shop wall. NO zombies were in shop. I get a message "The kobold zombie rises from the dead!" not sure H 00:57 not sure HOW he got in here. 00:57 Phasing zombies? Come on, now! That is pure, bitter bile-Evil! 00:58 You're overthinking. 00:58 Odds are that's an interaction with a digging monster that was nearby. 00:58 Nope. No wall eve opened. 00:58 And that was supposed to be a funny. 00:59 Phasing zombies?! really? 00:59 *ever 01:01 I figured there were no diggers. Early in the game, only on level 2.Just confirmed with telepathy. 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] smzp (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5277 points, T:2777, killed by a rabid rat 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] yen0 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4142 01:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:7926 01:17 <@Doesnt> xorn zombies 01:17 <@Doesnt> ...ghosts? 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] yen0 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4376 01:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Mad Dwa Mal Law) wished for "Blessed fixed +2 Axe of the Dwarvish Lords", on T:3706 01:29 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1005, rt[0:02:15] 01:29 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 290 points, T:1011, killed by a wand 01:31 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Sleepytime...] 01:32 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 268 points, T:715, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 01:34 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 224 points, T:567, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 01:35 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by a water moccasin 01:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:17106 01:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2576 points, T:3119, killed by Mr. Senna Hut; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 01:46 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 938 points, T:974, killed by a bat 01:49 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1069, rt[0:02:48] 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] yen0 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2374 points, T:5309, poisoned by an orcish arrow 01:52 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown, on T:1522, rt[0:05:57] 01:53 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1271 points, T:1558, killed by a watch captain 01:54 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 122 points, T:479, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 01:56 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 361 points, T:594, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 01:57 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 147 points, T:350, killed by a goblin 02:00 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 125 points, T:702, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 02:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2686 points, T:3045, poisoned by a rotted rock gnome corpse, while praying 02:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:56542 02:28 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:30 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:41 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Mad Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7678 02:46 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:16 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:24 -!- Guest001 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:27 -!- froggles has joined #hardfought 03:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Mad Dwa Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:9591 03:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9488 03:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 12443 points, T:9650, killed by a death ray 03:41 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 03:41 -!- Guest001 has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- Guest001 has quit [Client Quit] 03:44 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:56 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:26203 03:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 8 points, T:43, killed by a fox 04:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 22268 points, T:8541, petrified by a cockatrice 04:22 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 4616 points, T:3635, killed by an owlbear 04:56 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 04:59 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1068 points, T:1712, poisoned by a giant spider 05:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 391 points, T:898, killed by a giant ant 05:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4622 points, T:5071, killed by a death ray 05:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:45520 05:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 317 points, T:1135, killed by a bat 06:04 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 06:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1098 06:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 helm of brilliance", on T:45547 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4378 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4951 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4958 06:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2154 points, T:5111, quit 06:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 78 points, T:93, killed by a wand 06:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1418 06:42 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:42 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 06:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3384 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3976 06:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hobbit, on T:4886 06:57 wrt the phasing zombie, it's not clear if the zombie appeared inside the shop or not; if not, it's likely just a messaging bug, if so, it's probably because the other zombies swarmed the space with the corpse and enexto() found the nearest available space to put it, which happened to be through a wall 06:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4494 points, T:4957, killed by a giant spider, while sleeping 07:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1534 07:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 9962 points, T:6817, killed by a dwarf king 07:34 -!- fakepass_ has joined #hardfought 07:34 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Arc Hum Mal Law), 473 points, T:478, killed by a bat 07:34 -!- fakepass has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Oona, on T:35159 07:43 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Gno Nbn Cha), 1932 points, T:1698, killed by a hill orc 07:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Inc Mal Cha), 3921 points, T:1766, killed by a small dart 07:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] monsignor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 7446 points, T:3480, killed by a crow 07:50 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 07:50 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Wayfarer, on T:28234 07:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] monsignor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 392 points, T:802, killed by a small dagger 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 333 points, T:684, killed by a wererat 07:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Con Inc Fem Cha), 79 points, T:159, killed by falling downstairs 08:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] monsignor (Bin Orc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1460 08:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Ana Vam Mal Cha), 716 points, T:778, killed by a gnome 08:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Inc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1978 08:06 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Orc Mal Cha), 442 points, T:441, killed by a dwarf 08:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4412 points, T:6921, poisoned by an orcish arrow 08:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2090 08:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:37084 08:29 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:19830 08:29 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19831 08:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Blade Singer's Saber, on T:37412 08:35 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 08:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 19201 points, T:2935, killed by a dwarf, while praying 08:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9386 08:37 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1790 08:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:46208 08:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:11222 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 speed boots", on T:50655 08:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3160 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3266 09:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] greenbourne277 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34292 09:18 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:20 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 452 points, T:391, killed by a dwarf 09:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Muad (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Medicus ossium, on T:29173 09:21 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:24 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:31 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Mer Nbn Neu), 479 points, T:1211, killed by a giant bat 09:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7870 09:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 330 points, T:169, killed by a gecko 09:33 black pudding is delicious 09:33 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 09:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a platinum amulet of magic resistance, on T:13090 09:34 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1479, rt[0:14:39] 09:38 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown, on T:1938, rt[0:18:12] 09:39 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1448 points, T:2021, killed by a watch captain 09:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:9206 09:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given their Quest, on T:40296 09:40 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 144 points, T:513, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 09:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:42 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 256 points, T:510, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 09:43 -!- Chris__ANG is now known as Chris_ANG 09:48 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1501, rt[0:05:49] 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 cloak of protection", on T:52751 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) had a heavy war hammer entrusted to him by Set, on T:11478 09:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] monsignor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 5326 points, T:3592, killed by a battle-bat, while fainted from lack of food 09:53 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1448 points, T:2238, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a potion 09:55 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 81 points, T:499, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 09:56 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:15136 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 silver saber", on T:52771 09:57 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 338 points, T:541, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 09:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:00 amateurhour: yeah its really healthy too 10:00 you could say its shockingly good 10:01 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 138 points, T:693, killed by a bolt of fire 10:02 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 126 points, T:360, killed by a small mimic 10:03 <@Pacra> The warhorse dies from its illness. 10:03 <@Pacra> nooooooo 10:03 :( 10:03 :/ 10:03 What're you playing now, Pacra. 10:04 poor wearhorse 10:04 *warhorse 10:04 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 10:05 [hdf-eu] [un] wvc (Con Vam Fem Cha), 76 points, T:274, killed by a water demon 10:05 <@disperse (he/him)> I tried to ascend my knight with my warhorse but lost it in the plane of elemental fire and didn't notice in time to try and revive it. 10:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:53713 10:12 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Vam Fem Cha), 306 points, T:695, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 10:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Gauntlets of Spell Power", on T:10623 10:17 mobileuser: whats your weapon of choice in an infidel run? 10:17 i think shortswords are good, enchanted crystal dwarvish shortsword or something may be great 10:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Cha) murdered jerry, his faithful large dog, on T:18238 10:18 don't stand in front of the gelatinous cube next time, jerry 10:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Inc Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:11016 10:22 <@Pacra> still a giant priest 10:22 <@Pacra> about to go to sokoban again 10:22 Good luck 10:22 <@Pacra> which is where i died last time 10:22 Hi NetSysFire 10:23 hello mobileuser 10:23 I'll probably resume playing EvilHack once I've seen my mom off 10:23 <@Pacra> Umbire, what's your usual first wish? 10:23 Still pissed about that stupid fucking signal drop 10:23 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:23 <@Pacra> I'd usually go for mjolnir, but i have a half-decent weapon at the moment.. thinking of an armor wish, if I indeed have a magic lamp here 10:23 I mean as a giant that's contextual as all butts 10:23 I tend to get my first wishes when I'm in need of AC 10:23 NetSysFire https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Mobileuser/Infidel 10:23 nie 10:23 +c 10:24 So usually dragonhide GoProt 10:24 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an orcish dagger named +6 (10 aum) on an altar, on T:4016, rt[1:16:50] 10:24 <@Pacra> umbire: drain resistance seems pretty required for the quest? 10:24 >I tend to get my first wishes when I'm in need of AC 10:25 as in, when the quest isn't even in play yet 10:25 <@Pacra> ah I see 10:25 Now if you're that well-leveled then it's different 10:25 And GoProt gives MC3 anyhow 10:25 Which is the next best thing 10:25 <@Pacra> oh thats true 10:26 <@Pacra> that seems like a very good choice, lets see if I can make it, or get a hostile vorpal jabberwock again like last time 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide gauntlets of protection", on T:12723 10:28 <@Pacra> hooray 10:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) averted death, on T:42212 10:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Bat Mal Non) averted death, on T:4339 10:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Atma Weapon, on T:42294 10:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:34693 10:36 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Hea Dro Fem Neu), 513 points, T:1570, killed by a dwarf 10:39 -!- fakepass_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:44 Giants can't wear body armor so that means less slots for armor of decay 10:45 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 247685 points, T:18771, killed by a troll 10:45 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1665 10:45 Especially if you want very fast speed 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3553 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3610 10:53 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 10:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35669 10:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3804 points, T:4386, choked on a wolf corpse 10:56 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2716 points, T:3020, killed by a ghast, while paralyzed by a monster 10:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:35689 10:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:47454 10:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Bat Mal Non), 35514 points, T:5410, quit 10:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Cav Inc Mal Neu), 145 points, T:347, killed by an electric shock 10:59 -!- Denied_Existence has joined #hardfought 11:00 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 83 points, T:199, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 11:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:35944 11:01 -!- DeniedExistence has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:02 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Inf Mal Cha), 29 points, T:90, killed by a serval 11:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Roamer, on T:36064 11:06 Is two-handing worth it if you can only get to basic and without an artifact weapon secondary? 11:07 <@Shadow_Rider> vanilla? 11:07 <@Shadow_Rider> also what combo 11:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 121400 points, T:22863, killed by an energy vortex 11:09 it's a fourk knight, so I can't artifact offhand unless I randomly get frostbrand/firebrand. I have excalibur and the dragonbane lance rn 11:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:36185 11:09 If I can get a silver saber I was considering it 11:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:36193 11:11 I do have max luck and dex gloves if that makes it more viable 11:11 <@Shadow_Rider> two handing is almost always optimal imo 11:12 <@Shadow_Rider> as long as you have all the necessary resistances and protections 11:12 <@Shadow_Rider> max luck means you will still hit everything 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a war hammer named Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:55003 11:12 how do I two hand and get all that in 3.6+m 11:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Pir Dro Mal Neu), 710 points, T:858, killed by a rolling boulder trap 11:13 i want: life saving, reflection, mr, MC3, and two weaponing on my valk... how???? 11:13 <@Shadow_Rider> so you want to wield the offhand weapon first, press x, wield main weapon, press X 11:13 <@Shadow_Rider> oh i didnt get you 11:13 <@Shadow_Rider> well thats a tall task lol 11:13 <@Shadow_Rider> wait is it a valk or a knight 11:14 im playing a 3.7 valkyrie dwarf 11:14 no artiwishes cause generated too many early on 11:14 <@Shadow_Rider> thats fine 11:14 but i got grays from sac and im offhanding a saber for hell and a katana for astral 11:14 how do i get MC3? 11:14 <@Shadow_Rider> the only straightforward way i can see that happening is a ring of protection 11:14 and dont say copr or warding amulet 11:14 thats mc2 11:14 1+1 = 2? 11:15 or would two rings = 3? 11:15 <@Shadow_Rider> hmm actually you are probably right 11:15 comr is 1, prot ring is +1 regardless of enchant i think? 11:15 which is only mc2 11:15 <@Shadow_Rider> i dont really know if its possible to do all of those without some weird shennanigans 11:16 <@Shadow_Rider> i know even the wiki doesn't outline a combo thats has all of those 11:16 and thats why i hate 3.6+ 11:16 <@Shadow_Rider> so enlighten me on why mc3 is critical 11:17 not getting life drained by vampires 11:17 <@Shadow_Rider> i haven't played 4k, is it important? 11:17 im not talking about 4k 11:17 i just wanted to challenge ur "two handing is almost always optimal imo" 11:17 4k actually has even higher MC level 11:17 which btw i agree with but i dont like that it comes at more of a cost now in vanilla than before 11:17 <@Shadow_Rider> wait im so stupid 11:17 <@Shadow_Rider> i didnt realize you were demo this whole time lol 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8338 11:18 and 4k MC protects against item destruction from attacks 11:18 what 11:18 oh 11:18 <@Shadow_Rider> i blame bots 11:19 Isn't a cloak of protection MC3? 11:19 yeah it is 11:19 <@Shadow_Rider> he wanted everything 11:19 but then where am I gonna get MR? 11:19 <@Shadow_Rider> *they 11:19 Ah 11:20 And ofc no guaranteed artiwishes 11:20 Right, right 11:20 Anyway 11:20 <@Shadow_Rider> demo is this an actual game you are playing 11:20 <@Shadow_Rider> im assuming its hypothetical 11:20 off to Evil to see how I get bullshitted this time 11:20 uhhhh it was 11:20 <@Shadow_Rider> was? 11:21 https://hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/nethack/dumplog/1584465956.nh.txt 11:21 <@Shadow_Rider> oh ok 11:21 (the answer for me is to cheap out on MC) 11:22 instead of cheaping out on reflection 11:22 <@Shadow_Rider> mc isnt that important imo 11:22 mc3 = 10% chance any of vlads bites actually drain u i think 11:22 For me it's a question of lifesaving w/ single weapon + shield of refl or no lifesaving 11:22 but also as a valk ur just gonna wield excal for that fight lol 11:22 assuming lawful (which why wouldnt u be neutral valk sux) 11:22 <@Shadow_Rider> if you have everything else on that list mc3 isnt going to be the difference maker 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:55714 11:23 i need life saving 11:23 or i die a small percent of the time 11:23 in ways that could totally have been avoided if i had life saving 11:23 and i dont like to late game splat 11:23 Such as... 11:23 choking on corpses lmao 11:23 🤔 11:23 not watching my hp and getting owned to some dumb shit 11:24 being way too lax about illness timers or having a stoning timer going and not realizing 11:24 <@Shadow_Rider> vlad would be like the only reason for me to want to want mc 11:24 <@Shadow_Rider> so i just avoid neutrals lol 11:24 yeah honestly late game it isnt very important 11:26 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Hum Nbn Law), 152 points, T:255, killed by a glass dart 11:27 vanilla doesn't really have interesting late game builds anyways 11:27 lmfao found a blessed gold banded mail right at the start 11:27 which ofc I can't us 11:27 use* 11:28 <@Shadow_Rider> umbire im curious why you choose giant? 11:28 why not 11:28 <@Shadow_Rider> genuine question i haven't played evil really 11:28 "giants are fun" is the base of it 11:28 giant early game is so much more fun imo 11:28 lack of body armor sucks but boulder throwing can make up for a lot of it 11:28 you can play with boulders 11:28 and boulders r fun 11:29 <@Shadow_Rider> ha can you cheese soko like that 11:29 clearing out soko also means you get a bunch to carry with you if you live 11:29 <@Shadow_Rider> that does sound fun 11:29 lmfao nah 11:29 You can move over boulders in there but can't pick them up 11:29 and luck penalties are doubled 11:29 <@Shadow_Rider> oh well guess you cant have everything 11:29 also u can one hand two handed weapons 11:29 Twoweapon them too 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Muad (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:29923 11:30 <@Shadow_Rider> whoa 11:31 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 200 points, T:903, killed by a jackal 11:31 How does two-weaponing work with a lance? 11:31 like normal I'd think 11:31 never tried it though, so 11:32 evilhack giant is fun 11:32 I'm worried it would lower my joust probability 11:32 has its difficulties, but its f u n 11:32 I think you get two chances to joust.. if i remember right 11:33 oh, the chance depends on #twoweapon skill if it is lowr than lance 11:34 well in fourk knights only get basic 11:34 Demo: re. late game builds. please elaborate? 11:34 So it's a question of two 40% jousts vs one 80% joust 11:34 grey or silver dsm, body 11:35 boots, probably always speed 11:35 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6978, rt[3:40:11] 11:35 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 11:35 cloak, copr or comr unlikely to see either 11:35 shield, reflection probably its got good ac and has an intrinsic. it's this or no shield 11:35 though that said dual-lances is a ton of weight. 11:36 gloves, either gop or if you can't swing them for casting, dex if you can find it but if not random leather 11:36 Small shield is also an option 11:36 lightweight AC source and fucks with casting the least 11:36 Any gloves'll do late game 11:37 <@Shadow_Rider> nethack endgame is a little bland because the items are so similar 11:37 <@Shadow_Rider> the builds converge rather than open up 11:37 ideal hat is either brilliance or elven or telepathy depending on casting 11:37 yeah 11:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:964 11:37 dnh ideal endgame builds have wayyyy more variety 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:3608 11:38 Object materials already gives you a fair bit more variety than usual 11:38 yeah they would help vanilla 11:38 Bone and stone stuff don't hinder casting but one is burnable and the other is fooproof but heavy 11:38 Silver still repels demons 11:38 <@Shadow_Rider> when was the last time someone trained polearms let alone ascended with that as primary weapon 11:38 etc. etc. 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Cav Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3656 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3659 11:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Arc Inc Fem Law), 1290 points, T:1181, killed by a dagger 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Cav Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 daggers named unc on an altar, on T:3671 11:40 I think vanilla should add the extra intrinsics to not gray/silver dragon scales that some variants add 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:3682 11:40 Yeah, FIQ and evil do it differently but those give you reasons to wear different color scales 11:40 i.e. very fast for blue, stone res yellow, sick res green, infravision and flying red, free action orange 11:40 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown, on T:6099, rt[2:14:25] 11:41 Outside of like, already having MR/reflection covered elsewhere 11:41 <@Shadow_Rider> i would like to see more interesting weapon choices become viable 11:41 white for inventory protection from water 11:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:19570 11:42 I liked how sporkhack (i think) added auto-freezing water you walk on for WDSM. Might've worked for lava too, i forget 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3775 11:42 Muad yeah it does 11:42 i incorporated that into evilhack 11:42 its neat 11:42 cool. adds freedom, yeah 11:43 too much to do, not enough time to do it in. 11:43 3.7 release is too soon 11:43 <@Shadow_Rider> i believe 11:43 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:6158, rt[2:17:08] 11:43 just outsource the work 11:43 <@Shadow_Rider> you have made a lot of awesome changes paxed 11:43 * amateurhour looks at qt 11:43 has to be timed just right so that tnnt bothers rebasing onto it 11:44 but with just little time left that its a pita and rushed 11:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:38265 11:44 hahah 11:46 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Dwa Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1049 11:46 <@Shadow_Rider> is there a consensus hardest variant on hardfought rn? 11:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:19997 11:48 heh not sure 11:49 slex sorta held that title, but for different reasons 11:49 I think it's probably evilhack 11:49 now that its gone, you could probably legitimately compare hardest to easiest 11:49 spork i think 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:4073 11:50 harder than evilhack? 11:50 evilhack endgame isnt comparable to spork 11:50 spork is hard, evilhack drew a lot of inspiration from it. but i dont think spork is harder than evilhack 11:50 there are some similar elements though 11:51 evilhack endgame is more "difficult" than spork but the evilhack endgame player is also more powerful than a spork endgame playter 11:51 so its hard to say 11:51 a sporkhack endgame player is way weaker than a vanilla one with a way harder astral 11:52 what would you say the easiest is? 11:52 <@ichbinmiah> "The pit viper seems to shimmer for a moment" 11:52 what was that joke variant? nanohack? 11:52 <@ichbinmiah> that's a new message for me. 11:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:38460 11:53 <@Shadow_Rider> shimmering pit vipers were added secretly 11:53 not on hardfought, doesn't count 11:53 :P 11:53 microhack 11:53 μhack 11:53 hah 11:53 <@Shadow_Rider> what was that variant about lol 11:53 amateurhour imo xnethack would hold the title for easiest variant 11:54 i ascended it four times in a row. i never do that normally 11:54 shadow_rider ill draw it up 11:54 heres how u start 11:54 @_ 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 36 points, T:74, killed by contaminated water 11:54 u have the amulet and the _ is ur high altar 11:54 ^ heheh 11:54 <@Shadow_Rider> lmao 11:54 the REAL short version of nethack that's actually epic is brevishack 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Mal Una), 32 points, T:88, killed by a water elemental 11:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 9859 points, T:3749, killed by a dwarf cleric 11:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:38478 11:59 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "test", on T:6561, rt[2:33:20] 12:01 test passed 12:01 clearly I need to make xnethack harder 12:01 I am under no obligation to keep things easy 12:01 do the original xnh plan 12:01 idk what's in xnh that's even especially easy 12:01 where the x is for experiment 12:02 amateurhour: it takes away the fake difficulty so people whine "easy" 12:02 oh wow paranoid water really makes that much of a difference 12:02 no wonder K2 doesn't want it in evilhack 12:02 <@Shadow_Rider> bruh wth aosdict how many games are you a developer oh 12:02 <@Shadow_Rider> of 12:02 ... 1? 12:03 <@Shadow_Rider> what i dont believe it 12:03 what other game am I allegedly a developer of 12:03 <@Shadow_Rider> i dont even know 12:03 tnnt 12:03 <@Shadow_Rider> i feel like its a different one every time tho 12:03 I contribute to other variants of course but wouldn't consider myself a developer of them 12:03 aosdict is xnh 12:03 <@Kes> The "creating YASIs" game 12:03 aosdict was also lead developer for Hello Kitty Roller Rescue 12:03 <@Shadow_Rider> ok fair enough 12:03 I mean I can't say that xnet is particularly easier in comparison to vanilla 12:04 and sure, majority of the work on tnnt code itself is me and K2 12:04 aosdict did u see the new branch they added for tnnt this year? 12:04 'they' 12:04 they have not added a new branch this year 12:04 me neither get crackin 12:04 lol 12:04 hahahaha 12:04 bwahaha 12:04 <@Kes> If you need new tiles for tnnt again let me know. I had fun making the dev team ones 12:04 schweet 12:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:38525 12:05 will we see the return of Luxidream the Barbarian 12:05 I don't really think tnnt needs more branches... there are proposals to add new stuff in a less slashemy manner 12:05 yeah i should have specified "new content" 12:05 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:06 <@Shadow_Rider> what were the differences from base game last year? 12:06 <@Kes> Add Dudley as the dungeon "announcer" who spends every turn telling you what other players are doing 12:06 <@Kes> "A dragon just hit aosdict! This battle is heating up!" 12:06 shadow rider there's a swap chest that is imba af 12:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Bat Fem Non), 19243 points, T:3636, quit 12:06 <@Kes> (This is not a serious idea) 12:06 <@post163> !variant 12:06 @post163: nh13d 12:06 <@Shadow_Rider> the swap chest seems cool 12:07 <@Shadow_Rider> part of me just wants to stack it up and not play 12:07 the swap chest is polarizing 12:07 the swap chest is epic 12:07 if u hate it u suck 12:07 there's tension with players who just want a vanilla tournament and feel that it detracts 12:07 it needs some tweaking 12:07 someone gave me an amulet of reflection in it at mines end 12:07 and then i did soko 12:07 <@Kes> I really like the swap chest. Sure, it makes the game easeier, but it's a great piece of community collaboration. 12:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:38541 12:07 and a dude in the zoo had a wand of death 12:07 lets swap spit behind the swap chest 12:07 and he would have killed me if i hadnt been given that amulet of reflection 12:07 ah qt you had me at 'hello' 12:08 <@Shadow_Rider> does swap chest apply for all players or just your team? 12:08 <@post163> !variant 12:08 @post163: nhfourk 12:08 all players 12:08 <@nabru> I love the swap chest 12:08 all players on your server 12:08 <@Shadow_Rider> yeesh lol 12:08 right 12:08 <@Kes> Perhaps using the swap chest marks your game as "non-vanilla" somehow? 12:08 sync across all three servers was discussed 12:08 but i can see problems with it already 12:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:21213 12:08 syncing across servers bcuz eu had the best swap chest 12:09 >:( 12:09 hah 12:09 I think Tone pulled like 30 enchant armour scrolls or something wild out of the swap chest 12:09 one thing I'd like to see with the swap chest - after X amount of days, if an object hasnt been picked, it goes away 12:09 @Kes but that creates tension between vanilla and non-vanilla games, people are now disincentivized to use the swap chest or other custom content 12:10 thats why there's a conduct or what have you for not using the swap chest 12:10 just replace the tnnt variant with xnh and call it a day 12:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed potion of booze named Paulaner Anshar Doppel Bock", on T:38542 12:10 <@Shadow_Rider> conduct lol 12:10 seriously 12:10 the point difference for preserving swapchestless is basically 0 after you've done it like twice 12:10 you can get a few extra points for not using it if you ascend 12:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Cha), 919604 points, T:38543, ascended 12:10 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/i/ichbinmiah/nethack/dumplog/1628607978.nh.html 12:10 <@Shadow_Rider> oh yeah 12:10 barely 12:10 <@Shadow_Rider> gg ich 12:10 gratz miah 12:10 it should be worth more but i was voted down 12:10 <@Shadow_Rider> are conducts worth that many ponts 12:11 <@Kes> congrats! 12:11 <@ichbinmiah> ty ty ty 12:11 no shadow rider not really 12:11 woo ichbinmiah 12:11 This is why we should get rid of unified scoring :-) 12:11 they're a good chunk of points first time you do them and if you stack them 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:17549 12:11 There is no way to reconcile the points in a way that works 12:11 but the more you do them the less they're worth - including for swapchestless 12:11 <@Shadow_Rider> i think i read the rules page and did not understand how it worked with non conduct runs 12:12 instead of points, players should be able to earn bitcoin. problems solved 12:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Muad (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:30348 12:12 <@Shadow_Rider> if you did the same combo but some are conduct and some arent how does that work 12:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Muad (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30350 12:13 I might be remembering wrong about why it was bad actually, there's no z-score on conducts is there? 12:13 anyway it barely registers to break it 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 39 points, T:381, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:18 <@Kes> The evil version of the swap chest would be one where it snags a random item out of your inventory and gives you a random one in return. "The luggage's tongue lances out and grabs the wand of wishing from you. In exchange, you receive a gray stone. You are slightly burdened by your load." 12:18 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Dwa Nbn Law), 861 points, T:1275, killed by an amphisbaena 12:18 lol 12:20 but again, we want people to use the thing :P 12:20 <@Kes> You mean you don't want a chest that spits loadstones into your inventory unasked? 12:20 <@Kes> Weird 12:21 <@Shadow_Rider> lol could it get rid of cursed stuff that way 12:21 <@Shadow_Rider> people would drop everything except their unwanted things 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:18289 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:53201 12:23 * K2 hands Kes her girl scout merit badge for Being Evil 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Orion (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1078 points, T:2037, zombified by an orc zombie, while praying 12:24 <@Zefnar> One of my favorite traps from castle ravenloft is an empty locked chest hanging upside down from the ceiling that a perceptive player might notice, thinking it’s hidden treasure. If you unlock/force open the chest, it’s empty and just casts Disintegration at you 12:25 lol 12:25 <@Zefnar> Which I guess kind of already exists in nethack, if a chest is both trapped and empty 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:18417 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:4370 12:29 <@Kes> Yet another reason why Ravenloft is GREAT! 12:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:29 <@Kes> Love me some ravenloft 12:31 -!- kwel2d has joined #hardfought 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:19137 12:36 -!- kwel2d has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:37 -!- kwel2d has joined #hardfought 12:38 that's kind of like "haha gotcha" though 12:38 like tomb of horrors 12:38 lol you played the game normally, loser 12:38 you should've been checking everything with a ten foot pole and a bag of rats 12:39 yeah you hear it said out loud and think it's a sexy tomb of whores, but then it turns out to just be full of lame horrors 12:39 really lame gotcha 12:39 [hdf-us] [4k] Stardust (DeniedExistence) (Kni Hum Fem Law) defeated Medusa, on T:25228 12:40 <@Zefnar> I mean older style D&D was a little ha! gotcha! 12:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Inc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19153 12:40 A little, he says 12:40 <@Zefnar> Compared to modern adventure design, anyway 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:53526 12:42 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Ran Gno Fem Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:53544 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:53596 12:49 <@Kes> Old D&D was definitely much more "Haha gotcha," and not in a good way, but I generally don't count tomb of horrors as a part of that. ToH was written specifically to cheese off players who were overconfident and to make people mad. 12:49 <@Kes> Mud Sorcerer's Tomb is a good example of nasty OG dungeon crawl. 12:50 it must suck to be a mud sorcerer 12:50 your parents probably tell their friends you are an accountant or something 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1988076 points, T:53609, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/disperse/nethack/dumplog/1628709860.nh.html 12:51 rather than admitting the result of years of occult study and research is your ability to make magic mud pies or something 12:52 mud sorcerers dont have parents 12:53 why not? 12:53 are they themselves formed from mud or something 12:53 <@Kes> They're mages that focus on water and earth magic, and built riddle-filled tombs because they were obsessed with intellect. 12:54 [hdf-us] [spl] Ride (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:24306 12:55 <@Shadow_Rider> gg disperse 12:56 <@Shadow_Rider> hey kes how many marker charges are scrolls of time 12:57 <@Kes> I actually have the Old Splice (tm) codebase open in front of me, so I can check 12:57 <@Kes> 30. Same as geno 12:58 <@Shadow_Rider> whoa 12:58 <@Shadow_Rider> are they as strong as they sound 12:59 <@Kes> yes 12:59 gandalf would've creamed his cheese for a scroll of time 12:59 u can just go around balrogs 12:59 evoke feet and just leave 12:59 <@Kes> They're arguably one of the best items in the game 12:59 <@Shadow_Rider> are there any exceptions 12:59 <@Shadow_Rider> what if i just read like 10 of them on astral 12:59 <@Kes> You used to be able to do that 13:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:23665 13:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:23667 13:00 <@Kes> Wait... did I not push the nerf to them? 13:00 <@Kes> Uh 13:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:48077 13:00 oldsplice still points to freenode 13:00 allow only 3 scrolls of time to ever exist 13:00 <@Kes> Oh, right. Each time you read a scroll of time, you get hungrier 13:00 <@Shadow_Rider> is that it 13:00 exceptions is kinda a fun idea, shadow 13:00 will splicehack have readable hawaiian shirts 13:00 player will have to choose wisely when to use them 13:00 like some monsters that just take actions anyways when time 'stops' 13:00 when it gets updated 13:01 <@Kes> qt: If someone makes a PR for them :^) 13:01 <@Shadow_Rider> im going to abuse this if i get the chance 13:01 qt, look for the splicehack-rewrite repo 13:01 <@Kes> Scrolls of Time are very abusable in oldsplice. Spamming them is a great way of dealing with the absolute mess that is splice astral 13:02 <@Kes> Wow, you lose 30-60 points of nutrition for reading a scroll of time. That's like actually nothing 13:02 <@Kes> What was I thinking 13:02 <@Shadow_Rider> i know 13:02 <@Shadow_Rider> cant you just eat something lol 13:02 allow only 3 scrolls of time to ever exist 13:02 ^ Kes 13:03 <@Kes> That's an idea, K2 13:03 not just an idea 13:03 There are two distinct reasons why I don't want to do that, @Denied_Existence. 1. confirmation prompts are bad UI, and also 2. Knights are _supposed_ to have to pay a lot more attention to behaving chivalrously, than other roles, that's one of the thing that sets them apart. 13:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:23922 13:03 its a Good Idea™ 13:03 :P 13:03 <@Kes> I think another idea proposed was that if you gave yourself too many movement points, bad stuff happened 13:03 Kes: i could make a hawaiian shirt pr or I could just wait for you to merge vanilla 13:04 <@Kes> qt: True, I can just cherry-pick it from vanilla now, can't I 13:04 in fact a pr would cause a merge conflict I guess 13:04 <@Shadow_Rider> if you read too many theres a chance you break time and instead every monster gets those movement points except you 13:04 this is a stupid question but what does cherry-picking refer to? merging a single commit from another branch? 13:04 Ah piss, found one of Tink's ghosts 13:04 <@Kes> qt: Not a stupid question. Yup, that's it! 13:05 yeah I guess not really a stupid question but I could have just googled it 13:05 <@Kes> Reading too many could generate a phane that attacks that player. Idk what editions Phanes exist in tho 13:05 qt: Technically, "merging" implies merging _all_ the commits that have ever been merged into the branch in question. 13:06 So cherry-picking is not merging in that sense. 13:06 Put another way, merging operates on branches; cherry-picking operates on commits. 13:06 why cherry-pick it? just merge latest 3.7 13:06 @jonadab I get that, but it's just very tedious to have to continually worry about bump-attacking an enemy that is technically fleeing, especially in crowds 13:07 makes sense, thanks Kes and jonadab 13:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 39 points, T:59, killed by a sewer rat 13:07 i always feel like I'm misusing the term 13:07 but I guess I basically understand it right 13:07 <@Zefnar> You want something to make reading “scrolls of time” riskier/dangerous? Maybe the dahaka from prince of Persia/the sands of time 13:07 <@Kes> K2: Cuz I'm putting off merging the makedefs rewrite lmao 13:08 <@Kes> Oooooh 13:08 The term comes from the physical act of picking cherries by hand: you take only the ones that are ripe. 13:08 Meaning you leave some behind. 13:08 <@Shadow_Rider> hardfought is oldsplice or new? 13:08 old 13:08 new isnt ready yet 13:09 <@Shadow_Rider> gotcha 13:09 I am willing to consider other solutions to that problem, @Denied_Existence. 13:09 <@Kes> I finished porting all the lowercase monsters today. New Splice is approaching 13:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:24130 13:10 Will old Splice still be available in some form or no? 13:10 #jonadab is there an indicator you could put on monsters for when they're fleeing? either in the map or on the farlook info? 13:10 Hmm, _that_ is an interesting idea. 13:10 We're running real low on background colors, though. 13:11 <@Kes> Umbire: Idk, probably will have it on github still. 13:11 Re-using the same color as for pets or peacefuls, for fleeing, seems like a bad idea. 13:11 Baw :c 13:11 Hmm. 13:11 what is a scroll of time 13:11 Guess I'll have to finish out my convict eventually then 13:11 adding it to farlook should be pretty easy though 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:20699 13:11 Is it possible to make the background of the tile blink perhaps? 13:12 NitroHack had a blink option for something (showing item piles, maybe); it was universally hated. 13:12 I know that's a thing dwarf fortress can do, but yeah a look indicator would be a good minimum 13:12 lol play a tooled horn and suddenly the screen looks like a slot machine 13:12 <@Shadow_Rider> what does this scroll of elementalism do 13:12 <@Shadow_Rider> it seems to not be documented 13:13 <@Kes> aoei: Read a scroll of time for free movement points 13:13 <@Kes> Shadow_Rider: It's from the Lethe patch. Summons elementals, which are either hostile or tame depending on some VERY janky code. 13:13 I should test background color 7 in a few terminals and see if I agree with ais523's assessment that it's not widely supported enough. 13:13 kes: >:O 13:13 <@Shadow_Rider> oh weird 13:13 how many points a scroll 13:13 and can you use them immediately 13:13 the same turn you read 13:13 Though I'm not sure I like white BG for fleeing. I think it's the only color left unused, though. 13:14 Might be better to think through whether any of the colors could be overloaded with more than one meaning without causing much confusion. 13:14 paranoid catiff is a good idea for 4k 13:14 I don't have the whole list in my head right now. 13:14 where catiffing is a SERIOUS offense 13:14 <@Kes> 50 + (buc * 25) movement points. If it's cursed or you're confused, you're "frozen in time" for a number of turns. 13:15 Whatever you add, probably should also indicate paralyzed/sleeping 13:15 jonadab: so, do you support tiles? ;) 13:15 (assuming you add anything) 13:15 paxed: Yes, tiles are supported. 13:15 <@Kes> Tile support \o/ 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Fem Cha) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Brute, on T:2096 13:15 Brute, eh 13:15 why not start out by just adding it to farlook? that would be simple and maybe it would address some concerns on its own 13:15 The things we indicate with background color in texttiles are easy to indicate in other ways in graphical tiles. 13:15 With overlays. 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword named Giantslayer bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:14498 13:15 Actually, I think Fourk ships with more tilesets out of the box than any other variant. 13:16 jonadab: i know. usually variant devs just tend to ignore tiles, it seems 13:16 Fourk policy is, nothing goes on the master branch if it doesn't have tiles support for all included tilesets. 13:16 This is why the current version of Fourk doesn't have bears. I'm bad at drawing them. 13:17 (Apart from owlbears, of course.) 13:17 <@Kes> I keep splice tiles-friendly at all times. My partner prefers tiles because she has trouble parsing all of the ascii, and I grew up playing tiles, so I have a soft spot for them. 13:17 <@Shadow_Rider> any good genos? 13:17 <@Kes> Shadow_Rider: Unironically Dragons are a good geno 13:18 <@Shadow_Rider> intersting 13:18 Personally, I don't play with tiles. But Fourk's audience is small enough without excluding all tiles players. 13:18 <@Kes> Endgame Dragons are NASTY. 13:18 -!- nabru_work has joined #hardfought 13:18 splice has bear tiles 13:18 Oh does it? 13:18 I should look at that. 13:18 drop bears, and some others 13:18 Though it wouldn't have them for all tilesets; still, might be helpful. 13:18 <@Kes> jonadab: You're free to steal them. 13:18 Heh, drop bears. 13:18 <@Kes> They only exist for the basic out of the box tileset 13:18 <@Shadow_Rider> wait is shocking spheres a thing here 13:18 slashem-16 in other words. 13:19 <@Kes> Shadow_rider: nah 13:19 <@Kes> Yup, slashem-16 13:19 Still, scaling them up to slashem-32 would probably not be very hard. 13:19 <@Shadow_Rider> cool 13:19 jonadab: https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack-Rewrite/commit/b79229e9e6 13:19 Oh yeah 13:19 [hdf-us] [spl] Ride (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:25179 13:19 K2: " forbids you from using bladed weapons such as " messages 13:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:4990 13:19 [hdf-us] [spl] Ride (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class D, on T:25179 13:19 Those show up only in melee 13:19 yeah 13:20 i need to add a handler for tossed things 13:20 Does the alignment/anger apply to thrown items or no, and was it intended to? 13:20 Ah 13:20 Was gonna say, you're restricted in most of the shit you can throw so moot point anyway 13:20 tosser 13:20 EPI for Fourk: I could just make attacking a fleeing monster, game-ending. "You resign in shame." 13:20 good idea 13:21 it already is 13:21 you can't fix your alignment and do the quest 13:21 <@Kes> jonadab: When scaling for slashem-32, do you just upscale slashem-16 with no interpolation, or do you do the tiles by hand? 13:21 By hand. 13:21 <@Kes> nice 13:21 Among other things, you want to put more colors in the gradient for slashem-32 in most cases. 13:22 But scaling up is easier than drawing from scratch. 13:22 my first knight attempt had amazing rng; two magic lamps in minetown, another a DL or two lower, and a wand of wishing in sokoban. I blew it because I didn't realize I had dropped to -1 and tried to convert an altar 13:22 Shoulda just used the darn scroll 13:23 i've been kinda pondering about a svg tileset 13:23 Converting your alignment before the quest is not game-ending in Fourk. 13:23 paxed: I thought about that, but didn't want to try to implement it. 13:23 <@Kes> paxed: svg tileset would be pretty fantastic, but the implementation sounds difficult. 13:23 jonadab: more in the way of "make png tileset out of the svg data 13:23 Ah. 13:23 I'm aware, but it screwed me hard enough to die, since I couldn't pray or make holy water 13:24 (had used up my wishes already) 13:24 i think qt does support svg natively, but for all the other guis 13:24 The SVG tileset would make more sense the higher the resolutions you want to support. 16x16 tiles made from SVG would not look good, but larger sizes would be better. 13:25 qt is that true? you're pro svg? 13:25 I think 32x32 is probably the smallest size PNG set that I would want to generate from SVG. 13:25 there's been some complaints from windows players that the tiles are too small ... 13:25 Brute is an Infidel rank, right? 13:25 Demo: i think the intended solution is, never do melee attacks as a knight! 13:25 and yes, 16x16 tiles are very small nowsdays 13:25 or does caitiff happen when you shoot/pound/zap too? 13:25 paxed: Well, the default tiles are 16x16, which is one of the smaller sizes of any tileset. Which makes sense as a default, but it would be nice to ship with more than one tileset. 13:25 just don't use Excal 4head 13:25 jona made it apply to everything 13:26 lmfao 13:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5343 13:26 IMO, it's important to get the whole map on the screen. 13:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Rog Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 eucalyptus leaves on an altar, on T:5349 13:26 But modern display resolutions are getting kinda large. 13:26 4k 13:27 <@Kes> I'm personally a huge dawnhack fan. If I was to go back to playing tiles regularly, I would either be using vanilla tiles or dawnhack. 13:27 * spicyCebolla died by glaring at a monster rudely while it was fleeing 13:27 paxed: Hmm, that allows 48x48 to just about fit, I th ink. 13:28 And I think there are larger resolution displays even than that. 13:28 1333zm crystal wand 13:28 Probably nothing 13:28 Which suggests that 64x64 is not completely insane. 13:28 !lastgame tinklebear 13:28 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1630065422.evil.html 13:28 !calc 48 * 80 13:28 tiles kill smiles 13:28 Not the same game, didn't think so 13:28 not this bot eh 13:28 I think a LOT of players could use 32x32 tiles these days, and still get the whole map on the screen. 13:28 But yeah I feel like this wand is specifically nothing 13:29 is it possible for tile2bmp to make 32x32 tiles? 13:29 (And then there are the smartphone/watch/glasses players...) 13:29 <@Kes> It wouldn't be hard to modify tile2bmp to make it output 16x16 and identical 32x32 tiles. 13:29 K2: Not sure about the vanilla one, but NH4 has a tileset handler that can do all that and more. 13:29 I play nethack with tiles on a refrigerator 13:29 plz support 13:30 is there a tileset where all the tiles are representations of ascii characters 13:30 <@Kes> Demo: Watch out for gremlins, then 13:30 Heh. 13:30 amateurhour: Yes. 13:30 <@Kes> amateurhous: Yes, actually 13:30 <@Kes> It's really good 13:30 that's epic 13:30 geoduck tiles 13:30 amateurhour: Though geoduck is only partly there. 13:30 <@Shadow_Rider> welp 13:30 friendship ended with ascii now geoduck tiles is my best friend 13:30 abidaga 13:30 haha 13:30 abigaba 13:31 <@Shadow_Rider> are there good ways to deal with drawbridges 13:31 All of the _monsters_ in geoduck are based on their ASCII characters. 13:31 But some of the items aren't. 13:31 <@Shadow_Rider> never seen so many in my life 13:31 here's 3.4.3 tileset comparisons: https://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/nethack/nhsshot/tilecmp.php 13:31 cool, thanks paxed 13:31 (yes, i should update that, but ...) 13:31 I've used Geoduck when playing on phone, is a good tileset 13:31 !whereis shadowrider36 13:31 amateurhour: shadowrider36 is not playing. 13:32 p. sure I mentioned liking how they incorporate glyphs 13:32 <@Shadow_Rider> !whereis Ride 13:32 @Shadow_Rider: [hdf-us] Ride [spl]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:25946 The Void level: 29 13:32 I want to find the energy to make a notcurses windowport that displays tiles in terminal over ssh 13:32 <@Kes> Dang, I miss the default 32 x 32 tileset. 13:32 it's a cursed idea but it could be epic 13:33 the void! 13:33 <@Kes> amateurhour: It's definitely possible (with certain terminals, at least) 13:33 whattaya doin in there?! 13:33 <@Shadow_Rider> idk 13:33 you should clamber out and eat snacks 13:33 yeah it's possible for sure but needs energy to do 13:34 paxed what does the backend of this look like? 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:23240 13:34 <@Shadow_Rider> is there seriously no better options for drawbridges 13:34 <@Shadow_Rider> im boutta use the bell 13:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given Bloodletter, on T:46012 13:35 <@Kes> Whoever asked if tile2bmp supports 32x32 output (I think it was K2) it does 13:35 oh? 13:35 bhaak: if i started an unnh knight last december, will the christmas portal refresh next december? 13:35 teach me, master po 13:35 could you smash them shadow rider? 13:35 Demo: for the nhsshot page? hmm.. i guess i should push that repo to github 13:35 <@Kes> K2: TILE_X can be defined as 16 or 32, if I'm understanding the code right. 13:35 <@Kes> Granted, I've never tried it. 13:36 <@Shadow_Rider> what do i smash with 13:36 i tried that, got an odd error 13:36 <@Shadow_Rider> i have one 0:0 striking 13:36 i should try again 13:36 <@Shadow_Rider> heh worth charging? 13:36 spicyCebolla: no. but the portal will be open throughout the year 13:36 paxed: web ui could also use svg tiles natively 13:37 your terminal size is too big for me to spectate your map on this lil monitor lol, how many drawbridges are there? 13:37 <@Kes> Shadow_Rider: Probably not 13:37 <@Kes> Poly? 13:37 <@Shadow_Rider> wait poly works 13:37 <@Shadow_Rider> since when 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:23574 13:37 aosdict: ah, true 13:38 amateurhour: https://imgur.com/mo1gILD.png 13:38 Demo: there's no db or anything, it's just php, tileset image files and css 13:38 <@Shadow_Rider> whoa you stalker 13:38 <@Kes> Shadow_rider: I mean poly yourself into something that can shoot missiles or something 13:38 <@Shadow_Rider> how did you snipe that pick 13:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:38 <@Shadow_Rider> are there many more drawbridges left? 13:39 yeah I'm curious about the php 13:39 <@Shadow_Rider> i bet this is a reoccuring thing 13:39 <@Kes> Oh wait, are you in gehennom? 13:39 <@Kes> This is Mephisto's lair 13:39 i thought shadow was in THE VOID 13:39 Kes, if i change TILE_X from 16 to 32, build tile2bmp and try to run it, I get this: 13:39 cannot open text file ../win/share/mon32.txt 13:39 usage: tile2bmp (from the util directory) 13:39 Demo: i'll put the repo up on github this weekend 13:39 and the .bmp is 0 bytes 13:39 <@Shadow_Rider> seems to be 13:40 <@Kes> Now now, spicy. If Shadow rider was in the void, he would be dead :) 13:40 <@Kes> (on a more serious note, the void doesn't look like that) 13:40 paxed, the default 32x32 tileset for 3.4.3, were those custom made or made via tile2bmp? 13:40 my nickname is the void because if you look upon my hideous features for too long you go crazy 13:40 but beholder said the void :O 13:41 <@Shadow_Rider> !whereis Ride 13:41 @Shadow_Rider: [hdf-us] Ride [spl]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:25946 The Void level: 29 13:41 K2: dunno 13:41 <@Kes> Ruh roh 13:41 <@Kes> That's not the void 13:41 Beholder says a lot of things 13:41 also, might be good to disable starting new games of oldsplice, to get ready for the switch? 13:42 order of branches is prob wrong in beholder bot for splice 13:42 <@Kes> Also, Shadow_RIder, please tell me you have fire resistance. Fighting mephisto without fire resistance is really, really dangerous. 13:42 spicyCebolla no 13:42 <@Shadow_Rider> well i hope so 13:42 <@Shadow_Rider> i think i usually pick it up for quest 13:43 <@Shadow_Rider> i just wanna know how many more drawbridges i have to deal with 13:44 <@Kes> These drawbridges are, if I remember right, not necessary for completing the level. They're just scenery. The one necessary drawbridge left is in Malcanthet's lair. 13:44 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest134 13:44 -!- Guest134 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 13:44 is the stupid sex thief demon still op as shit and will steal all ur shit if u don't cheese it with time scrolls? 13:45 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 13:45 <@Shadow_Rider> idk this one looks pretty mandatory to me 13:45 <@Kes> Oh wait, nvm. These drawbridges are necessary 13:45 <@Kes> Just checked the lua 13:46 <@Kes> Demo: It hasn't been that way in literal years, since everyone complained. 13:46 Nice, another random internet drop, love it. 13:46 Looooooooooooooove it. 13:46 At least I wasn't in the middle of a wish prompt this time. 13:46 does new spl have gugnir? 13:47 is it still better than mjolnir? 13:47 (evilhack) I just ran up to a gray fungus and hacked it to death. That probably wasn't smart, was it? 13:47 <@Kes> Demo: Yes, and no 13:47 <@Kes> It never misses. That's its thing 13:47 Hekik no not really :) 13:47 if you have a unihorn, its ok 13:48 nah, don't have one yet 13:48 !whereis Hekik 13:48 nabru_work: [hdf-us] Hekik [evil]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:5884 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 13:48 is it still like d20 shock vs d24? 13:48 with a slightly higher base die? 13:48 <@Kes> no 13:48 does it still return to hand when thrown? 13:48 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 261 points, T:970, killed by a bat, while fainted from lack of food 13:49 you used to be able to throw it without wielding it which was nice cause you could use it out of quiver but it would rewield itself in your onhand 13:49 i reported that the behavior was odd and you nerfed it and made it required you wield it to throw it :( 13:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:25191 13:49 should be able to throw it and have it return to quiver imo 13:50 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2329 13:50 <@Kes> Demo: The real broken strat in new splice is this: Chains of Malcanthet + transmuter to swap material to glass + imbue with a paralysis monster essence + dip in paralysis potion. Chains of Malcanthet set charisma to 25, paralyze monsters upon hit, and have bane against either angels or demons. Their base item is a spiked chain, which can hit as a melee weapon or polearm for equal damage, hits hard, and has a big bonus to hit and a small bonus to 13:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bartlem (Brd Hlf Fem Neu), 604 points, T:2222, killed by a gnome 13:50 AC. Glass as a material buffs their damage even further. Ring of conflict feeds off the 25 charisma and becomes even stronger than normal. Spec into power attack until master level for another +4 to hit, offsetting the to-hit penalty with the insane to-hit bonus of a spiked chain. Imbue + dip yields likely stunlock. 13:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Silence Glaive, on T:46703 13:51 <@Kes> ...new splice is very weird 13:51 epic 13:52 i love overly complicated abusing weird system interaction builds 13:52 <@Kes> Saaaame 13:52 does the imbue or the dip wear out after awhile? 13:52 just imagine a nethack endgame build that played like a towards the end of a slay the spire deck 13:52 <@Shadow_Rider> wait why 13:52 <@Kes> imbue no, dip yes 13:52 <@Shadow_Rider> bell doesnt work 13:53 <@Kes> ???? 13:53 <@Shadow_Rider> oh wait 13:53 <@Kes> Wait, I think I ran into this in vanilla 13:53 <@Kes> Bells can't be used for songs 13:53 <@Shadow_Rider> no it worked 13:53 <@Shadow_Rider> i didnt realize it had to be blessed 13:53 <@Kes> ???? intensifies 13:53 <@Kes> Well, I learned something new today 13:54 i know because amateurhour told me 13:54 when he was trying to use the bell to open the castle in brevishack 13:54 │You hit the damned pirate! ││i) crystal bugle │ 13:54 good sentence 13:56 * paxed implements different tones for bells 13:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mad Swn Fem Neu), 981 points, T:1195, killed by a dwarf 13:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] monsignor (Bin Orc Mal Non), 5596 points, T:2971, killed by a dwarvish spear 13:56 how come there's only bell of opening and not a magic bell for each spell type huh 13:56 <@Kes> paxed: Handbell choir, NetHack edition 13:56 YANI if it's not already in the archive^ 13:57 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Con Chn Nbn Cha), 20 points, T:162, killed by a serval 13:57 [hdf-us] [spl] Ride (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Pazuzu, on T:27355 13:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Con Inc Fem Cha), 4 points, T:42, killed by a fox 13:57 Bell of conflict, ringing it uses a charge and generates conflict for 3d6 turns? 13:57 Knew it, wand of nothing 13:57 [hdf-us] [spl] Ride (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Mephisto, on T:27616 13:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed NetSysFire's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:3036 13:59 hmmm, YOLO these cursed gloves or no... 13:59 got my own bones again 13:59 As tends to happen 13:59 including gop 13:59 Oh baller. 14:00 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 14:00 and speed boots 14:00 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:5121 14:00 These gloves don't seem like fumbling or anything, dexterity maybe...? 14:00 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:5337 14:01 Dexterity gloves, like most armor, are usually generated at +0. Which makes them a pain to ID. 14:01 rld: collect enough and you get a gamelan. :P 14:01 I tend to ID them by process of elimination. 14:01 pfft 14:01 Kes: collect enough and you get a gamelan. :P 14:02 "You ring the bell. It produces an E note." I mean the hero has perfect pitch anyway so 14:02 collect 7 bells to play the passtune 14:03 aosdict: if you're lucky to get 7 with different tones 14:03 -!- froggles has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:03 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Val Hum Fem Law), 11958 points, T:6144, killed by a velociraptor 14:03 accidentals should be possible too 14:03 it's veering heavily into the different locks/keys 14:03 <@Kes> Imagine someone trying to battleboard with the NetHack protagonist. Feats: Has perfect pitch, can eat almost anything without dying. Anti-feats: Swims so poorly that they instantly drown. 14:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:47136 14:04 what's a battleboard 14:05 <@Shadow_Rider> why is this game so hard 14:05 <@Kes> Shadow_Rider: wuzgoinon 14:06 <@Shadow_Rider> some thief thing stole my excal 14:06 <@Shadow_Rider> i thought it died over water but i couldn't find it from digging 14:06 Kes: what is a battleboard? 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:24978 14:06 <@Shadow_Rider> then the meph guy or whatever showed up 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24980 14:06 <@Shadow_Rider> getting summoned on by everything 14:06 <@Kes> qt: Whoops, my bad. Strange forums where people argue over which fictional character is stronger. 14:06 <@Shadow_Rider> ok rant over 14:07 <@Shadow_Rider> fuq 14:07 i googled it and see: "an intuitive visual interface to manage your boatyard", some sort of special clipboard designed for soldiers and cops, somebody who makes dioramas out of toy soldiers 14:07 [hdf-us] [spl] Ride (Val Dwa Fem Law), 519960 points, T:28100, killed by a death ray 14:07 <@Shadow_Rider> !lastgame 14:07 @Shadow_Rider: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Ride/splicehack/dumplog/1629586057.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/evilhack/dumplog/1630084014.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1630057247.evil.html 14:07 very wide range of meanings for 'battleboard' lol 14:07 rip :( 14:07 :c 14:08 <@Kes> rip :( 14:08 rip 14:09 <@Pacra> oh noooo 14:10 <@Pacra> F 14:14 <@Kes> Malcanthet disrobing -> death ray is such an unlucky combo 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8744 14:15 <@Shadow_Rider> are any of those guys bribable 14:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:28984 14:16 <@Kes> Demons aren't bribable when you have excalibur. 14:16 if u generate the level wielding it they generate angry 14:16 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9366, rt[4:25:35] 14:17 <@Shadow_Rider> well yes 14:17 <@Shadow_Rider> i could have i just didnt check 14:18 <@Shadow_Rider> didnt know what alignment they were 14:21 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Dro Nbn Neu), 660 points, T:1468, killed by a dwarvish spear 14:23 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Gul Fem Law), 112 points, T:404, killed by a small mimic 14:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:29770 14:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:29 could someone tell me the correct syntax for a ki-rin figuring wish? 14:30 is it just 'figurine of a ki-rin'? 14:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] attie (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:38265 14:30 <@Kes> Denied_Existence: That's correct! 14:30 thx 14:31 don't forget to wish for it blessed 14:31 yes, but thanks for making sure 14:31 [hdf-us] [4k] Stardust (DeniedExistence) (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:27131 14:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8802 14:32 -!- kwel2d has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:33 jonadab does there happen to be a gauranteed stethoscope on the knight quest? I'm trying to figure out if I should wish for a poly wand 14:34 I know you've added a gauranteed saddle 14:34 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1353 points, T:2290, killed by a pony 14:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Wiz Inc Mal Cha), 3153 points, T:1664, killed by a shuriken 14:37 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1042, rt[0:02:37] 14:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 626 points, T:1379, killed by a giant bat 14:44 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 117690 points, T:35114, quit 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 2316 points, T:3792, killed by a jumping spider 14:45 4% fail rate on healing btw 14:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed Acererak, on T:47724 14:48 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1199 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2993 points, T:4463, killed by a crocodile 14:48 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Cha), 240 points, T:506, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Mal Cha), 9 points, T:113, killed by a potion of holy water 14:49 rip 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:27874 14:49 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3521, rt[0:14:39] 14:49 gambled on a trap corpse, didn't work out, decided I may as well SD anyway 14:49 killed by holy water? 14:50 <@Shadow_Rider> choatic 14:51 Right, I forget there's quaffing effects lol 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 256 points, T:981, killed by a coyote 14:52 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4188 points, T:3755, killed by a soldier ant 14:52 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1138, rt[0:07:44] 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 828 points, T:1922, killed by a giant spider 14:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:48250 14:56 [hdf-us] [4k] Stardust (DeniedExistence) (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "5 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:27133 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1639 14:57 ok, getting this far in evilhack is new to me 14:58 I'm on the way to Mine's End at a goblin castle thing, and I just noticed that there's a figurine of a balrog in the last room here. How screwed am I? 14:58 !whereis Hekik 14:58 Hekik: [hdf-us] Hekik [evil]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:8066 The Gnomish Mines level: 10 14:59 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Minetown, on T:1552, rt[0:14:22] 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1387 points, T:2269, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 15:00 Not particularly 15:00 That's the idol they worshipped in the back room 15:01 There's a scroll of scare monster under it 15:01 (along with Moloch's name as flavor) 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 115 points, T:581, killed by a magic missile 15:01 the orcs call them Dagul 15:01 The figurine is cursed that I recall 15:01 it's not cursed, it's a roll iirc 15:01 So it's possible that it might activate while you're down there 15:01 Oh so just unlucky me as usual then 15:02 you can bless it and use it for mischief, it's a good pet 15:02 Definitely worth blessing and activating unless you plan to get Demonbane at any point 15:03 oh, ok, I just put together room full of orcs + I know Evilhack monsters can use figurines = pain 15:04 Hence the scroll of scare monster :3 15:04 wow i've had great luck with shops in this xnh game 15:05 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Hum Fem Law), 5620 points, T:3509, killed by a dwarf 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 565 points, T:1362, killed by a giant spider 15:05 i'm on dlvl3 -- so far I've gotten speed boots, bag of holding, magic whistle, oilskin cloak, and various other stuff from the shops 15:05 can't wait to die horribly 15:05 oh yeah also mithril chain mail 15:05 you will die by choking on a newt corpse 15:06 I was going to say poison instadeath, but xnh does away with it 15:06 poison instadeath is a beloved feature, how could aosdict be so cruel and remove it?? 15:06 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:2011, rt[0:22:00] 15:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 9393 points, T:9746, quit 15:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 672 points, T:1721, killed by a bolt of fire 15:09 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 15:09 and there we go 15:09 lol 15:09 dwarf with a wand of fire 15:09 the rng giveth and the rng taketh away 15:09 !lastgame qt 15:09 nabru_work: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/xnethack/dumplog/1630090568.xnh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/splicehack/dumplog/1607092846.splice.html 15:10 easy scum easy go 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 609 points, T:1761, killed by a dwarf 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:19293 15:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:49283 15:16 [hdf-us] [dyn] *dfl (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 393 points, T:491, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:16 is it bad if i wanna see another cool lategame splat from icarus's current game? 15:16 they say a lot about balance 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1659 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 382 points, T:1609, killed by a giant bat 15:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:12460 15:24 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:32246 15:25 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32247 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "holy greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3142 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 126 points, T:773, killed by a jackal 15:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bartlem (Brd Hlf Mal Cha), 484 points, T:2115, killed by a dagger 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:59071 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a gnome), on T:1297 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 293 points, T:1423, killed by an arrow 15:30 -!- DeniedExistence has joined #hardfought 15:30 -!- Emerald__ has joined #hardfought 15:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law), 701202 points, T:27197, quit 15:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given Nodensfork, on T:12752 15:31 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1655, rt[0:34:19] 15:33 -!- Denied_Existence has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:33 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2326, rt[0:36:05] 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:70543 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:70545 15:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Shelob, on T:50381 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Hekik (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8706 15:36 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3074, rt[0:38:56] 15:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given Gaia's Fate, on T:13116 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3335 points, T:4908, killed by a fire ant 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 738 points, T:1164, killed by a falling object 15:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bartlem (Brd Hlf Mal Cha), 352 points, T:1687, killed by a gnome 15:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] monsignor (Wiz Inc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5698 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1537 15:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:27014 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 418 points, T:2138, killed by a gecko 15:45 oh crap that figurine is cursed 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:60640 15:46 lol 15:46 eek 15:46 ...oh no 15:47 is Dagul awake? :( 15:47 So I put down the figurine and set about applying my bag of tricks at the altar to sacrifice, make it safe to pray again 15:47 Yeah, even though it's not gonna have the usual starting inventory, you're in deep shit if that catches you 15:47 (I had prayed recently) 15:48 Bag of tricks produced a troll. "The troll picks up a cursed figurine of a balrog. The troll activates a figurine!" 15:49 Oh. 15:49 No bag to put the figurine in? 15:49 nope 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3117 15:49 Piss. 15:49 now I don't really have any escape items and don't know elbereth 15:49 what do you have? 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3283 15:50 run for the door, read scroll of earth? 15:50 just took a peek and see you have scare monster 15:50 You hear a distance voice. "Fly, you fool!" 15:51 I'm not sure that's actually scare monster, it may be misnamed 15:51 because the scroll on the altar with the figurine had a different name 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3669 15:52 alright, here I go 15:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Bar Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1013 15:53 If that scroll had a different name then you def. misnamed it 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:30554 15:54 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Big Room, on T:12828, rt[6:02:55] 15:54 Looks like I can outrun it, the balrog is busy playing dress-up 15:54 Orctown altar I assume? 15:55 made it 15:55 no, I've actually got a coaligned temple in minetown 15:55 the altar I was at was one I converted from Moloch in the mines end level 15:56 Ah 15:56 That was my next guess really 15:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Bar Inc Mal Neu), 5178 points, T:1092, quit 15:57 oh lord 15:58 ? 15:58 was tapping too quick and I ran right into another gray fungus. Any healing methods beyond prayer and unihorn? No unihorn and I don't think I can yet safely pray 15:59 it's the same as tainted food, right? 15:59 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Inf Mal Cha), 51 points, T:139, killed by a goblin 15:59 Yeah 15:59 non-chaotic holy water, cure sickness 15:59 I think full healing 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 63 points, T:463, killed by a sewer rat 16:00 eucalyptus if you got any (can kick trees for good chance of it) 16:00 [hdf-us] [4k] Stardust (DeniedExistence) (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28030 16:01 I don't have holy water yet, barely any potions identified 16:01 no trees in this minetown 16:02 No trees on the way to the Mines? 16:02 Oracle has guaranteed trees 16:02 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7903, rt[1:04:41] 16:02 well I mean I'm sick right now and only have a few turns to live I think\ 16:03 -!- Emerald__ is now known as Denied_Existence 16:03 chances of unidentified potions being extra or full healing? 16:03 Start quaffing random potions and (figuratively) pray 16:04 you might be lucky with prayer timeout 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of snow boots entrusted to him by Set, on T:21398 16:05 Just prayed recently though 16:05 I'd say try a prayer and then quaff 16:05 still ticks down the illness counter during prayer 16:06 and again, recently prayed 16:06 how recently idk 16:06 I dunno, I did manage to get a sacrifice in since then (you have a hopeful feeling) 16:06 so probably 50/50 can safely pray 16:06 Probably 16:07 I'd still go with the quaffs first personally but your call 16:07 here goes nothing 16:08 lucky 16:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ruffni (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30153 16:08 * Hekik gives thanks to the RNG 16:09 \o/ 16:09 thanks for the help everyone 16:09 was about to say I really need to find a cross-aligned unicorn, and here it is 16:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:52104 16:10 !whereis hekik 16:10 nabru_work: [hdf-us] Hekik [evil]: (Val Dwa Fem Law) T:9132 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 16:10 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32770 16:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2864 16:12 Hoorah 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Set, on T:22483 16:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ruffni (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 135025 points, T:30425, killed by a minotaur 16:15 lol, a gelatinous cube opened Schroedinger's box for me 16:15 dead cat 16:15 -!- nabru_work has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:15 what if the cat was alive until it got engulfed 16:16 🤔 16:16 nice, being brainless the cube wasn't even an observer 16:19 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Hum Nbn Neu), 480 points, T:1163, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 16:20 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Inf Mal Cha), 11 points, T:70, killed by a jackal 16:20 yes, the cube was in superposition with the cat until I observed it :-) 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:62784 16:21 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:32898 16:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] monsignor (Wiz Inc Mal Cha), 18858 points, T:8623, killed by a guard 16:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1883 16:23 Wait xnh has transmuters right 16:23 or am I thinking of Splice 16:25 it most certainly does not 16:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bartlem (Brd Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3732 16:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bartlem (Brd Hlf Mal Cha), 954 points, T:3763, killed by a small dagger 16:26 why did I think... 16:26 in any case what would be a more sensible class name for R 16:26 in a hypothetical variant where other monsters get added to the class 16:27 degraders 16:27 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Hum Nbn Law), 474 points, T:840, killed by a pony 16:27 guys that fuck up your shit 16:28 i still think that sticky guy would be a good R monster 16:29 Sticky guy? 16:29 it could stick to you like a mimic and your sword could get stuck in it, disarming you 16:29 i don't remember what it was called, somebody posted a list of "silliest D&D monsters" or something 16:29 Probably 16:29 it was a monster that was made out of glue, or something like that 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:63547 16:30 there was a marvel supervillain whose thing was glue 16:30 Ruffians-what-fuck-you-about 16:30 paste-pot pete 16:30 he was pretty dumb 16:30 oh it's called an adherer i guess 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6413 16:31 maybe it's not really R class though since things aren't necessarily degraded by sticking to it 16:31 Robs you of your weapon 16:31 https://0x0.st/-tvz.jpg 16:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Brd Gno Mal Neu), 903 points, T:890, killed by a cave spider 16:32 lol i like how he has sticks and rocks stuck to him in the illustration 16:33 Rips-up-your-good-shit 16:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Bar Hlf Mal Cha), 176 points, T:501, killed by a dwarf 16:35 sticks and stones may adhere to my skin but swords will never hurt me 16:36 I'm glue, you're rubber? 16:37 <@Doesnt> (R)eally annoying beings 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:7923 16:38 Ooh 16:38 Removers, perhaps? 16:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Cav Bat Mal Neu), 711 points, T:619, killed by a dagger 16:38 Really-oddball-designs for nonserious names 16:39 Umbire: it doesn't have to start with r 16:39 Yeah but it's funny 16:39 like, y doesn't mean "lights" 16:40 lyghts 16:41 <@Doesnt> yellow lights and other lights 16:42 <@Doesnt> if i was brave enough to resolve what an enchanter actually is i'd move rust monster to a and figure out something else to do with R 16:43 -!- saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:43 <@ichbinmiah> There should be a chromatic light that, upon explosion, deafens everyone by playing Darude's Sandstorm 16:44 strobe light? 16:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:47 <@ichbinmiah> A light that causes you to see all of the enemies in incorrect colors could be mildly interesting 16:47 <@ichbinmiah> Here comes an a. Is it brown? Yellow? Blue? Who knows! 16:48 <@ichbinmiah> Or maybe the light could suck all of the color out of the game. Revert you to Rogue mode for awhile. 16:48 <@Doesnt> red light that makes you stop 16:48 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Fem Neu), 257 points, T:612, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:49 hah 16:49 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11167, rt[2:04:48] 16:51 "The red light explodes! You feel compelled to stop. The newt bites! The newt bites! --More-- 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:30695 16:57 <@Zefnar> Oh this seems cruel. Re: adherer 16:58 Demo: https://github.com/paxed/nhsshot 16:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6096 16:58 thanks 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:64067 17:01 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:33527 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of telepathy", on T:30710 17:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Val Dwa Fem Law), 105071 points, T:30956, killed by a rock troll 17:11 -!- qt has quit [Quit: see you] 17:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Pri Bat Mal Cha), 20 points, T:140, killed by a grid bug 17:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 72812 points, T:10120, killed by an elf-lord, while jumping around 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hell hound, on T:13809 17:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1325 17:32 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 17:32 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4444 points, T:1567, killed by a soldier ant 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 121685 points, T:15007, killed by an invisible lieutenant, while sleeping 17:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 329 points, T:949, killed by a large mimic 17:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 796 points, T:2022, killed by a gnome lord 17:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1277 17:40 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:42 [hdf-eu] [xnh] mobileuser (Cav Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Roamer, on T:34105 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:27852 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2550 17:43 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3547 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1120 points, T:3965, killed by an Uruk-hai 17:50 !booze 17:50 * Beholder throws nabru a barrel of the hard stuff, replicated by Arsinoe at 82 Kelvin. 17:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:1319 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 165 points, T:599, killed by a small mimic 17:53 nice, shop with 3 magic lamps 17:53 <@Kes> daaaang nice 17:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1251 points, T:1422, killed by a gnome lady 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2442 17:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] puncake (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 97 points, T:58, killed by a goblin 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1482 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 gauntlets of power", on T:2574 17:58 -!- potato44 has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Hea Inc Mal Neu), 463 points, T:419, killed by a dwarf 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed yen0's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3003 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 710 points, T:2130, killed by a rothe 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3106 18:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:3324 18:04 You get the +3? 18:04 no but I did 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3328 18:04 whenever you wish for an enchantment and it fails I get it 18:04 Umbire: yep, the cloak was +3 18:05 the gloves weren't and the SDSM wasn't, either 18:05 And the DSM? 18:05 aw 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 361 points, T:1175, killed by a fox 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] pybit (Val Dwa Fem Law), 582 points, T:2305, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 18:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Rog Hlf Mal Cha), 103 points, T:412, killed by a newt 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] pybit (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8 points, T:72, poisoned by a rotted orc corpse, while praying 18:14 So, I filled in the trap doors in the castle temporarily and now i'm trying to dig down into the valley of the dead, but I can't seem to do so 18:15 you can fill in the trap doors? 18:15 Yes 18:16 uh, the castle is no digging allowed so I'm not sure how you would reverse that 18:16 <@Shadow_Rider> are you digging in the right spot? 18:16 <@Shadow_Rider> you should still be able to do it if its right on top of the hole 18:16 i've dug out half the cooridoor 18:16 no dice 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2659 18:16 using wand or pickaxe? 18:16 <@Shadow_Rider> are you playing on hdf? 18:17 pickaxe, should I be trying wand? 18:17 <@Shadow_Rider> pick should work 18:17 <@Shadow_Rider> ok im spectating 18:17 <@Shadow_Rider> can you try it for me? 18:17 ok, so it's 4k 18:18 maybe dismount from the horse? 18:18 ok, was just a guess 18:19 careful not to kill your horse by displacing it into pits 18:20 yeah, I dunno. If you can't dig down in those pits I'm not sure how you would get down to the valley 18:20 <@Shadow_Rider> im not really sure 18:20 <@Shadow_Rider> controlled levelport i guess 18:20 <@Shadow_Rider> surely it isnt a fourk thing? 18:20 that's certainly a possibility 18:21 <@Shadow_Rider> well that wouldn't really be a change that makes much sense to me 18:21 <@Shadow_Rider> unless it was in 3.4.3 18:21 is that a hole way over to the right? 18:21 just a magic trap 18:22 <@Shadow_Rider> do you happen to have telecontrol? 18:22 I know you're frustrated but you can't go around punching nurses, come on 18:23 lol 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1489 points, T:4161, killed by an imp 18:23 <@Shadow_Rider> ok so it seems like in 3.4.3 you can't dig down on the trapdoors 18:23 <@Shadow_Rider> and unfortunately 4k is based on 3.4.3 18:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Lungorthin, on T:55349 18:24 Well, it's mostly a minor inconvenience. I wanted to get down there prior to doing the Quest, so it's still possible I'll find a telecontrol ring in the quest, and if I don't I have a magic lamp still 18:25 <@Shadow_Rider> did you use up the full wow? 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1093 18:26 4k gives 2 scrolls of wishing, and yes both were used 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law), 350 points, T:1132, killed by a giant mimic 18:26 <@Shadow_Rider> oh 18:26 <@Shadow_Rider> how sad 18:27 I can also try blind levelporting a few times and hope it sends me down one 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:72134 18:29 <@Shadow_Rider> heh you would have to get pretty lucky 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6597 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1582 18:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 121158 points, T:21604, killed by an invisible winged gargoyle 18:36 [hdf-us] [slshm] MrsCasaubon (Tou Dop Fem Neu), 7818598 points, T:69786, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MrsCasaubon/slashem/dumplog/1629220861.slashem.txt 18:37 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4326 18:38 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:38 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7763 18:39 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:41 -!- Guest4326 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:42 -!- Guest7763 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Quotidian (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:907 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Quotidian (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 860 points, T:1069, killed by a gnome 18:45 <@Zefnar> Gnomes aren’t orcs. I know they look like goblins, but technically different 18:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) was given Quicksilver, on T:29947 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8448 18:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Bar Hlf Mal Neu), 9502 points, T:2408, killed by a watch captain, while praying 18:58 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8565 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:8803 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:10200 19:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:21775 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 586 points, T:953, killed by a crossbow bolt 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered Tina, his faithful kitten, on T:8 19:16 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 651 points, T:793, killed by a psibeam 19:18 Bro what the fuck is it with Evil gnome wizards and the fucking stunlocks 19:20 <@Pacra> Umbire: yesterday I pulled a "Beholder: hdf-us Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (gnomish wizards), on T:5717" 19:21 <@Pacra> just for that reason, haha 19:21 And yeti 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 3950 points, T:4439, killed by a yeti, while praying 19:21 This game's fucking garbage 19:22 <@Pacra> thats a super early yeti 19:22 <@Pacra> in the mines? 19:22 D: 19:22 yep, gnome wizards in evil suck 19:22 [hdf-us] [4k] Stardust (DeniedExistence) (Kni Hum Fem Law) defeated the invisible Ixoth, on T:33033 19:22 they dont suck, they're just misunderstood 19:23 when's the last time you hugged a gnomish wizard? 19:23 I was XL7 in Minetown, not that early 19:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:6, choked on a food ration 19:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:21968 19:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming an ettin mummy, on T:6058 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Quotidian (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1430 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 242 points, T:593, killed by a gnome lord 19:34 [hdf-us] [4k] Stardust (DeniedExistence) (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:33427 19:34 Alright, problem solved thanks to quest throne 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Quotidian (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 974 points, T:1644, killed by an elven dagger 19:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible qt's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:7051 19:37 not identifying gems doesnt have any advantage except selling worthless glass to shks right? 19:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 186 points, T:459, killed by a sewer rat 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Quotidian (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:968 19:40 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:22695 19:42 <@Pacra> Umbire, aren't giants supposed to get to str 25/con 25? 19:42 <@Pacra> I seem stuck at 18/xx 19:42 Ask K2, I'm not exactly an expert 19:42 I just play them a lot 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:13497 19:43 -!- tacco has quit [] 19:43 Pacra you cant exercise past 18/** 19:44 but you can build it up past 18/** by eating royal jelly, spinach, drinking potions of gain ability 19:44 same for con (potions of GA) 19:46 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Gul Nbn Neu), 1277 points, T:1877, killed by a bolt of cold 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered Tina, his faithful kitten, on T:1628 19:48 !booze 19:48 * Beholder hands nabru a tumbler of the hooch, decanted by Croesus at 2 degrees Celsius. 19:48 ah, freezing cold 19:50 <@Pacra> ah, OK gotcha 19:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Quotidian (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1882 19:53 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Val Hum Fem Neu), 439 points, T:970, killed by a woodchuck 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1951 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased amulet of flying named Boeing 797", on T:14019 19:57 throne wish! 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Quotidian (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2031 points, T:2393, killed by a gnome lady 19:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (krakens), on T:39449 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2377 points, T:2840, poisoned by a rotted gnome lord corpse 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:16128 20:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 20678 points, T:14771, killed by a champion of Grumbar 20:16 nooo that was a good run 20:17 :/ 20:18 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 20:18 :c 20:19 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Inf Nbn Cha), 901 points, T:600, killed by a dwarf lord 20:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:33366 20:28 <@Pacra> Umbire, somehow I made it to medusa 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed genocide", on T:17321 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class e), on T:17321 20:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] icarus (Bin Orc Fem Non) wished for "2 uncursed magic markers", on T:59899 20:30 GJ 20:30 Don't die 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:17362 20:40 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Town, on T:17678, rt[8:33:08] 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 134345 points, T:19101, drowned in a moat by a giant eel 20:43 ... 20:43 RIP 20:43 :c 20:43 !lastgame nabru 20:43 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1605872855.evil.html | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1630100287.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 20:43 and I had teleportation in my bag D: 20:43 Too bad you can't have bones in the Castle, I was doing quite well 20:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 20:45 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:45 So after running around with two-weapon basic for a bit, I'm not really that amazed tbh 20:45 for some reason I always think flying should prevent you from drowning 20:46 I've got +5 excal and a +6 longsword, and when it hits it usually does a lot of damage, but they only hit every few attacks 20:46 And this is with max luck 20:47 <@Pacra> oof 20:47 <@Pacra> it seems super easy to mess up with a giant priest, haha 20:48 <@Pacra> I haven't done quest yet... 20:48 <@Pacra> Denied_existence, does 4k have special twoweapon mechanics? 20:49 I mean yeah, it's basic and you're what 20:49 Skilled/Expert in longsword? 20:50 yes 20:50 @pacra idk 20:50 So if you can get 2W to Skilled you'll see better returns I think 20:50 Assuming those mechanics haven't been fucked with too much 20:50 Knights can't get skilled 2 weapon in 4k 20:50 <@Pacra> i like the eh twoweapon mechanics 20:50 only basic 20:50 <@Pacra> thats a bummer 20:51 Shame, sounds like you're hosed on that end then 20:51 So do you think it'd be better to go 1h? 20:51 I think the to-hit would mean overall higher dps 20:52 the lance esp seems to be doing work 20:52 when i'm using it 20:52 +2d20 is no joke 20:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1150 20:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3459 21:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Mad Dwa Mal Law) wished for "Blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:10087 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:87480 21:15 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 21:23 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:20153, rt[9:16:14] 21:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Pri Gia Mal Law), 4321 points, T:5185, killed by a dwarf lord 21:31 Bleh. Looks like grayswandir isn't in the cards 21:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:2095 21:38 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1007 points, T:1758, killed by a gnome's wand 21:44 Found a Hawaiian shirt soon as I stop playing giant lol 21:46 Is that particularly helpful for giants? 21:47 lolno 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered Tina, his faithful kitten, on T:3 21:56 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3985 points, T:2576, killed by a dwarvish lord 22:06 YASI: Giants should be able to wear shirts as blindfolds. 22:08 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:39153 22:12 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 22:13 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 22:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:39545 22:20 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1455 22:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:64975 22:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, on T:89865 22:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1077 points, T:1719, killed by a dwarf 22:26 I'm not sure I could even tie a t-shirt around my normal size head securely, much less a giant one 22:26 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 22:29 <@nabru> Depending on the T shirt, I could 22:29 Very cool game 22:29 first hit zombification 22:29 twice in a row 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2226 points, T:2382, killed by an iron golem 22:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:1855 22:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 403 points, T:1928, killed by touching The Eye of the Aethiopica 22:35 :v 22:42 oof 22:42 Is everything I eat in this fucking run rotten 22:42 <@Pacra> rip ezion 22:43 f 22:44 . 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 157 points, T:188, killed by a coyote 22:46 Hi bugs 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Pacra (Pri Gia Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Set, on T:44667 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1646 points, T:4296, killed by a Woodland-elf 22:56 nice, ok, did get Grayswandir after all 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 579 points, T:1618, killed by a poisoned blast 23:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Mad Dwa Mal Law) was given Callandor, on T:12170 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4255 23:13 Found my bones, honestly should turn back 23:14 This one's reasonably fresh, and most of the throne room monsters died but still 23:14 dwarf lord is troublesome 23:15 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Mad Dwa Mal Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:12714 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:5650 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Val Hum Fem Law), 8680 points, T:5671, killed by a forest centaur 23:23 do smoky potions only have the wish chance when undiluted? 23:24 Last I checked, the only difference dilution makes in vanilla is to stacking and the effects of further dilution 23:25 I'd be curious to know if the wish chance is also diluted in the variants that do dilute the effects of the potion. 23:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4132 23:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:4634 23:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4684 23:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +0 robe on an altar, on T:4694 23:52 I can confirm that diluted smoky potions do still have a wish chance 23:52 [hdf-us] [4k] Stardust (DeniedExistence) (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:38383 23:53 -!- DeniedExistence has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2414 points, T:5317, killed by a rope golem 23:54 hah