00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:57170 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:57172 00:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18 <@Zefnar> i found meeks bones 00:18 <@Zefnar> in gnome town 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed meek's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2251 00:20 <@Zefnar> hm 00:20 <@Zefnar> he fell into a pit 00:20 <@Zefnar> how do i get the stuff out of the pit 00:20 <@Zefnar> i guess i can get the earth scrolls from sokoban 00:22 -!- PavelB has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:23 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 00:25 <@Shadow_Rider> go back in the pit 00:25 <@Shadow_Rider> you have to be inside the pit to pick it up 00:26 type ">" to go down into the pit 00:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Verbal (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:485 00:33 -!- Looksfar has joined #hardfought 00:39 These are appalling stats: St:5 Dx:7 Co:4 In:22 Wi:14 Ch:9 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3369 00:44 Even worse now: St:3 Dx:7 Co:4 In:22 Wi:14 Ch: 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:54957 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:55005 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 1371 points, T:2173, killed by a hill orc 00:59 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Kni Hum Mal Law), 5690 points, T:3289, killed by a killer bee 01:02 -!- Looksfar has quit [Quit: Getting...sleepy...] 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful blue jelly, on T:38425 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6025 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Ran Elf Mal Cha) murdered Samael, his faithful little dog, on T:6138 01:17 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:17 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:39099 01:29 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1904 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:1927 02:04 Sweeet! Finally! 02:04 > You feel in good health again. 02:04 Only 10k turns. 02:04 Now back up to St:10 Dx:14 Co:12 In:22 Wi:16 Ch:11 02:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 15251 points, T:17715, killed by an owlbear 02:07 Well, that was just a frustrating game. 02:07 So that was a bit of mercy. 02:10 -!- drunkmonkey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 600 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:56460 02:14 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 02:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lady, on T:22870 02:17 F 02:18 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:23134 02:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:10166 02:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:23135 02:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:56947 02:37 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 869 points, T:2313, killed by a pseudodragon 02:43 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 363 points, T:1144, killed by a kitten 02:46 [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11050 02:46 [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:11077 02:59 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 03:03 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1425 points, T:343, killed by a hobbit 03:08 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 756 points, T:2515, killed by a bolt of cold 03:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Val Dwa Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:12626 03:27 :c 03:28 [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:13223 03:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:4023 04:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given the Helm of Undeath, on T:4950 04:09 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1202 points, T:2070, killed by a pseudodragon 04:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6363 04:18 -!- entuland has joined #hardfought 04:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:7810 04:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given the Silence Glaive, on T:8610 04:43 <@Earth Traveler> okay let's see 04:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) averted death, on T:9400 04:43 <@Earth Traveler> i need 10 scrolls of enchant armor (9 more) 04:43 <@Earth Traveler> 6 scrolls of enchant weapon (3 more) 04:43 <@Earth Traveler> at least 1 scroll of genocide 04:43 <@Earth Traveler> 2 scrolls of charing for the magic markers 04:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 53978 points, T:9590, killed by a gnome lord 04:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:15723 04:46 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:46 For... 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:15754 04:46 what, wyd o: 04:46 <@Earth Traveler> for my plot to take over the world irl, obviously 04:46 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:46 Oh, best of luck then 04:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 160595 points, T:26767, killed by an energy vortex 04:58 Ow. 05:03 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3242 points, T:4208, killed by a jaguar 05:06 <@Earth Traveler> Remember, don't feed the trolls - eat them, that way they won't come back 05:12 Do feed the trolls... to your cat. 05:14 <@Earth Traveler> see nethack does have real life applications 05:14 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 664 points, T:1228, killed by a large mimic 05:19 -!- Ashpool has joined #hardfought 05:20 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 283 points, T:676, zombified by a kobold zombie 05:21 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 31 points, T:187, killed by a newt 05:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1687 05:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:42 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1091 points, T:3072, killed by a giant bat 05:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:5289 05:53 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 05:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given the Holy Moonlight Sword, on T:6714 05:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7018 06:04 -!- PavelB has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Verbal (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 40760 points, T:4901, killed by Cerberus 06:19 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11833 06:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given the Singing Sword, on T:13851 06:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1801 06:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3044 06:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given the Limb of the Black Tree, on T:15685 07:24 YASI: playing a cursed harp or wooden flute could give you an earworm, which infests you for like 100 turns and does some minor damage randomly (like 1d4) 07:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:25 Make it specific to magical instruments and I'm on-board 07:26 why would it be specific to magical instruments? 07:26 <@Earth Traveler> YANI: True vegan conduct - can't use any animal products whatsoever 07:27 so no tallow candles? 07:27 and no leather armor and stuff 07:27 Magically summoned earworm 07:27 <@Earth Traveler> and no leather, and no bone (including unihorn), and no dragonhide 07:28 Umbire: i would imagine that something drops from the ceiling or something 07:28 ... unfortunately, it turns out potion finings are made from the swim bladders of sturgeon 07:29 If it's done that way then sure, could make it all instruments. 07:29 <@Earth Traveler> potion what? 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (killer bees), on T:17553 07:29 "finings" (used in beer to settle the yeast out, and which used to mean almost no beer was vegan) 07:30 Scrolls might well be parchment, too... 07:31 ... oh, no, paper golems, they're OK 07:31 <@Earth Traveler> well i was planning on following vanilla's rough assumption that most things are vegan-friendly unless they clearly are not 07:31 Mmm. I was thinking, how bad could it be :-) 07:31 <@Earth Traveler> otherwise virtually all armor would be prohibited 07:32 And the finings thing used to be a real problem mostly resolved by pretending it didn't exist, so it came to mind. 07:34 what about meat golems 07:34 <@Earth Traveler> what about them 07:35 Surely they are made of dead animals. But is stone to flesh OK? 07:36 <@Earth Traveler> yeah honestly that shouldn't break vegan conduct in vanilla 07:36 <@Earth Traveler> i remember thinking that during my monk run 07:37 Clare says "you can use it but you can't then eat the results" (after all you're already an odd kind of vegan who doesn't mind killing animals) 07:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible naoky's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:4487 07:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a shark, on T:4030 07:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1926 points, T:2091, killed by a boiling potion 07:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3774 points, T:4602, quit 07:49 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1184 points, T:2616, killed by a wererat 07:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2725 points, T:5036, killed by an owlbear 07:56 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 306 points, T:1393, killed by a small mimic 07:58 YANI: Archeologists in variants that utilize the Itlachiayaque patch should be able reach Skilled in dart and/or spear to further reflect the atlatl and other trends in Mesoamerican weaponry. 07:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:58 (I say and/or in part because some variants already do this to varying degrees.) 07:58 spears are soo crappy in vanilla and i would love to see them used more 07:58 swords are boring, spears are where its at 07:59 t. never used dwarven/elven spears 07:59 Seriously, play as Caveman and stack a bunch of those 08:00 but i mean not for throwing but as a main weapon 08:01 Same as above 08:01 Dwarven spear is a p. dece weapon 08:03 but what about named and artifact spears 08:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:04 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 08:05 We do not have those 08:05 Which sucks because we should 08:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:18569 08:05 <@Earth Traveler> slings: am i a joke to you 08:07 theres some wiki page which describes stuff which is unbalanced in nethack and it also says that tridents should use the spear skill 08:07 also there are more polearms than spears 08:07 <@Earth Traveler> yeah nethack has waaaay too many weapon skills 08:07 Sling are a joke to everyone 08:07 also lol tridents and spears feel p. different 08:08 <@Earth Traveler> good thing i lowered flintstones and rocks to 1 weight in my variant 08:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2272 08:10 what is your variant? 08:11 <@Earth Traveler> it's a work-in-progress 08:13 -!- Ashpool has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 60372 points, T:18844, killed by a faded shadowsteel spike 08:15 EarthHack 08:15 I on the other hand am making MoonHack 08:17 i should rewrite nethack in bash 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4620 points, T:2859, killed by a crocodile 08:20 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 08:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2022 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:10867 08:35 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1193 points, T:3252, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 08:41 Luxidream ping me whenever you get on 08:41 and/or Shadow Rider 08:41 <@nabru> !ping 08:41 @nabru: Pong! 08:42 !punt 08:42 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:47 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Verbal (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 811 points, T:313, killed by a gnome 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] ShartyWaffles (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:10955 09:06 <@luxidream> Good morning 09:06 'lo 09:07 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_Orb_of_Detection mind weighing in on this? 09:07 If not it's fine, no hurry 09:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 8579 points, T:3522, killed by an ape 09:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 56 points, T:92, killed by a jackal 09:11 <@luxidream> I’ll change it a bit 09:12 <@luxidream> For wishing purposes better to compare to mmom 09:13 I mean fair but I mostly included that since arcs can be neutral 09:13 Which, probably overthinking as usual 09:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 627 points, T:799, killed by a coyote 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3903 09:15 <@luxidream> I mean it’s kind of silly to use an artifact wish on something with the same properties as your quest artifact 09:15 <@luxidream> even if it is lighter 09:15 I just figured the similarity in properties was worth nothing 09:15 <@luxidream> 99% of players just get grayswandir anyway (which may or may not be correct) 09:15 s/nothing/noting 09:15 as opposed to like recommending anything in any direction 09:16 More than anything it needed a strategy section of some kind 09:16 <@luxidream> if you say pyec is strictly better in the strategy section, someone’s going to wish for it :p 09:16 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 09:16 fine fine :B 09:17 [hdf-us] [gnoll] zor (Hea Gnl Fem Neu), 2744 points, T:2960, killed by a Grey-elf 09:17 MMoM is magic resistance and telepathy as well? 09:17 I know about the double spell damage thing 09:17 <@Earth Traveler> but not half spell damage 09:19 <@luxidream> Orb of detection is better but more heavy 09:19 I trust yer judgment dw 09:19 it's why I asked 09:20 I just don't remember the properties exactly, lemme check 09:20 Yep, that was all actually 09:22 <@Tone> I think saying that it is "more than likely" to encumber the player while in open inventory isn't great phrasing. It may never encumber the player if they plan for that 09:23 True but I find inventory management tedious as is 09:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Hum Mal Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:13537 09:25 <@Shadow_Rider> Hm lol isnt pyec a bit odd to bring up since they are of different alignments 09:25 <@Tone> Sure, I will guess more than likely just makes it read like a probability to me 09:26 <@Earth Traveler> the really weird thing is alignment wasn't even mentioned 09:26 <@Earth Traveler> "the Magic Mirror of Merlin for lawfuls or the PYEC for neutrals" 09:26 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1128 points, T:2116, killed by a hill orc 09:27 <@Shadow_Rider> Well yeah heh that’s why I was confused 09:28 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:28 <@Shadow_Rider> I mean thats close to comparing orb of fate and the master key of thievery saying that master key is considered better because it’s lighter and still has half physical 09:28 <@Earth Traveler> it's not really that-- okay, yeah, it is that bad 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Verbal (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1695 09:33 I mean I considered the alignment thing when I first made the edit but it escaped my mind to be more specific about it 09:33 (ET's phrasing would've been ideal to that end) 09:34 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 09:34 that one is a broad weapon not a narrow on 09:35 just use a +9 elven runesword 09:35 <@Earth Traveler> what 09:35 mbm 09:36 I should sit down and actually play priest quest dark days 09:38 every time I feel a burst of motivation to try and port the priest quest dark days save I remember how annoying it'd be and instantly stop 09:38 Okay but what channel was that meant for 09:38 aosdict: Tangentially related to above can you confirm Arc QA has fire resistance still 09:38 actually sike I'll just look in git 09:38 secret cool ppls only chat sry 09:39 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 09:39 have you even tried to play it ahour? 09:39 I just remember their being way too much exposition via engraved msgs 09:39 I loaded it in a vm 09:39 but didn't play it really 09:40 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 570 points, T:2010, zombified by a hobbit zombie, while helpless 09:40 <@Earth Traveler> i'm reading about this variant 09:41 <@Earth Traveler> and it sounds like a fever dream 09:41 I hope its as creative as the stuff mbm put on the wiki 09:41 omg did he describe it on the wiki 09:41 tat 09:41 's epic 09:41 where are u reading? 09:41 <@Earth Traveler> i'm reading some google doc 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Verbal (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3027 09:45 got a link? 09:46 <@Earth Traveler> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/c/MG9sjEG55lo 09:47 oh that rgrn post, gotcha 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Verbal (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1587 points, T:3068, killed by an owlbear 09:47 thought there was an actual google doc page or something 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7081 09:50 do I even still have the save file 09:50 YANI: Shields of reflection can be applied like normal mirrors. 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Verbal (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 100 points, T:20, killed by an invisible lich 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] ShartyWaffles (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:12169 09:53 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 09:57 what about other sources of reflection? 09:58 Depends 09:58 Probably not like, amulets of reflection for instance 09:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Kni Clk Fem Law), 96 points, T:264, killed by a goblin 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Verbal (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 152 points, T:1012, killed by a gas spore's explosion 10:08 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 964 points, T:2918, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2697 10:22 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:23 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 612 points, T:1543, withered away 10:26 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Rog Hlf Mal Cha), 211 points, T:302, killed by a small mimic 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3316 points, T:3994, killed by a gnome king, while praying 10:39 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Wiz Hlf Mal Neu), 234 points, T:384, killed by a jackal 10:42 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law), 114 points, T:119, killed by a jackal 10:45 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2054 points, T:2108, quit 10:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 1274 points, T:2768, killed by a mithril dagger 10:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 2324 points, T:5270, killed by a wolf 10:48 Earth Traveler: re slings, how about an artifact sling which is named davids sling or something which has a chance of instakilling a giant or at least does significant damage to it? 10:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Hum Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15220 10:51 Could just use UnNetHack's Giantslayer 10:51 which iirc is just that 10:51 I know at least one variant does it 10:51 isnt that a sword 10:51 >I know at least one variant does it 10:52 If not Un then possibly SlashTHEM 10:52 slex has an artifact sling called sureshot, which has a good to-hit bonus 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed efw's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:2428 10:55 Yep, UnNetHack makes it a sling 10:55 So legit just borrow that 10:56 Effective 21 STR makes it somewhat desirable too 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] ShartyWaffles (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13971 10:57 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1498 points, T:3438, killed by a straw golem, while praying 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3196 11:00 hi 11:00 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 11:01 yo 11:02 You pushed those centaur monk changes and stuff already right? 11:02 Game just rolled me one 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 406 points, T:964, killed by a little dog 11:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mad Inc Fem Law), 297 points, T:192, killed by a giant rat 11:04 yeah 11:04 Coo 11:04 What's up with you 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3915 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3946 11:07 chores 11:07 already mowed this morning, finally not raining 11:08 Ah 11:08 how's Ice Queen 11:08 good 11:09 stepped outside and didnt feel like i was walking through a swamp for once 11:09 Yay 11:09 Hopefully I reach her one of these days 11:09 see if this monk ain't the one 11:09 On the note of rain I think I just had an idea for a better Priest QA 11:10 [hdf-us] [gnoll] ssnufd (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 8580 points, T:4328, quit 11:10 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:10 Something related to water, since I recall a lot of miracles related to producing water or rain 11:10 (though that may be the bibble knowledge talking) 11:17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainmaking_%28ritual%29 woop 11:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3746 11:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3803 11:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pony, on T:3804 11:18 K2: does your daughter like frozen and is this why shes an ice queen? 11:18 yup 11:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Kni Clk Fem Law), 1244 points, T:2285, killed by a gnome lord 11:19 She's literally in Evil as the boss of her own branch 11:20 our two dogs are in it too 11:21 Also, while I'm on the subject of thinking up ideas for Priests 11:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2280 points, T:4596, killed by a gargoyle 11:22 And in conjunction with Infidel shit 11:22 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22 If the Priest nemesis is a servant of Moloch, then what would the nemesis for a hypothetical priest of Moloch be? 11:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 11:23 an upgraded Archon? 11:23 Like a special "boss" player monster to mirror the usual HPoM fights? 11:23 Or that ooh 11:23 could be that 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4828 11:25 Or maybe make it similar to the infidel, where it's a special A set up with elementals 11:25 Commanding nature itself to stop you 11:27 Which, yeah, loving the sound of that now 11:27 had a dream I was coming up on some iron bars I didn't have a way to break and needed to get through but I was salamander race so it was ok 11:27 Nemesis A with water, earth, and air E-based companions 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:4848 11:28 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 11:29 Far as 'normal' Priests go, I'm trying to think of a replacement for the QA that doesn't suck nearly as much 11:29 But isn't also just that thing where they take the Caveman's Sceptre of Might 11:30 (which is a good idea in itself to be fair) 11:31 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergillum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_star_%28weapon%29 11:31 ^there's a morning star type known as a "holy water sprinkler" 11:39 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1523 points, T:2377, killed by a dwarvish lord 11:39 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3755 points, T:3807, killed by a magic missile 11:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Sam Gia Mal Law), 6583 points, T:5815, zombified by an orc zombie 11:41 <@nabru> "Holy water sprinkler" sounds like something you'd see while hallucinating 11:49 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed SeamusMcRed's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3514 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] ShartyWaffles (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:16001 12:10 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 12:13 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:5427 12:14 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a red mold, on T:3722 12:15 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3169 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4184 points, T:4327, poisoned by a giant mosquito 12:17 never seen this before. i do not have telepathy. i am engulfed by an ochre jelly. way over on the other side of the map, i see this 12:17 ] a mimic or a strange object (interior of an ochre jelly) 12:18 take a screenshot, file a bug 12:18 is it a bug? 12:19 no its a mimic 12:19 besides this is grunt, nobody gonna fix that 12:19 also, too late, i killed the jelly and the [ disappeared 12:23 TTY? 12:23 -!- Looksfar has joined #hardfought 12:30 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 12:32 <@Umbire> Also re: all the Priest stuff I talked about 12:32 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/871067851631501322/unknown.png 12:32 Haven't thought up a to-hit or damage bonus yet 12:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1309 points, T:2048, quit 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh4] Maslo (gosanon) (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 6984 points, T:1430, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food 12:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 365 points, T:789, killed by a jackal 12:40 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:40 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 12:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 121 points, T:164, killed by a jackal 12:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 8 points, T:88, killed by a jackal 12:42 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:6283 12:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 212 points, T:382, killed by a grid bug 12:46 [hdf-au] [evil] naoky (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 4635 points, T:6047, killed by a fire ant 12:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2189 12:58 -!- sleepless|2 has quit [] 13:01 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a runed broadsword named Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8071 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:58400 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:58403 13:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3426 13:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bragi (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1065 points, T:3450, killed by a giant bat 13:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] otc (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 28 points, T:1351, died of starvation 13:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4791 13:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 21222 points, T:4466, killed by a fire ant 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:24290 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24296 13:25 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 185 points, T:379, killed by a gnome 13:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1045 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 473 points, T:1065, killed by a gnome lord 13:36 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 40226 points, T:13646, killed by a troll 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:25275 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 454 points, T:970, killed by an iguana 13:46 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1051 points, T:1164, killed by a rothe, while dragging an iron ball 13:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3399 points, T:1164, killed by a gnomish wizard 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:27626 13:54 <@revenant> hows netcrack doing 13:58 [hdf-us] [gnoll] ssnufd (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 96 points, T:640, killed by a gnome lord 14:08 Hmmm, maybe I could make mops a "lethal joke" weapon on their base, rather than just a "joke" weapon with a cracked version as an artifact 14:08 NetSysFire: what do you think 14:09 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:19 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 14:19 -!- amateurhour has quit [Client Quit] 14:25 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3396 points, T:2161, killed by a gnomish mage's bolt of fire 14:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1767 points, T:2001, killed by a jaguar, while fainted from lack of food 14:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:30 <@nabru> !ping 14:30 @nabru: Pong! 14:31 [hdf-eu] [un] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Minetown, on T:1747, rt[0:41:46] 14:31 [hdf-eu] [un] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1754, rt[0:41:54] 14:32 You see here a copper iron hook. 14:32 *facepalm* 14:32 [hdf-eu] [un] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1786, rt[0:43:02] 14:33 -!- PavelB has joined #hardfought 14:33 lol 14:34 the worst part is that's the tool on this floor of the mines 14:34 Oh yeah that begs a p. good question 14:34 What do object mat variants call an unID'd grappling hook 14:36 evil calls it an iron hook, and if it's copper, it's a copper iron hook 14:37 i don't have xnethack installed 14:37 I have an xnh game going but don't think I've seen any hooks during it 14:38 !tell k2 an unidentified copper grappling hook is called a copper iron hook, same as in grunt 14:38 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, hothraxxa. 14:39 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 14:40 Hmm, "hooked rope" might work for unID'd 14:40 copper-hooked rope, gold-hooked rope, etc. 14:40 or just "a hook" 14:41 its an alloy 14:41 K2: Message from hothraxxa at 2021-07-31 14:38 EDT: an unidentified copper grappling hook is called a copper iron hook, same as in grunt 14:41 :P 14:43