00:00 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Val Dwa Fem Law), 281 points, T:1048, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse
00:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:16951
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00:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:18753
00:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3645 points, T:782, killed by a giant ant
00:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18807
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00:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:22325
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00:47 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2112 points, T:4446, killed by a rothe
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01:13 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2116 points, T:3034, escaped
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01:47 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3334
01:48 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1654 points, T:3407, killed by a water moccasin
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02:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:20234
02:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:44603
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02:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Spelunker, on T:44758
02:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:20380
02:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:20483
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02:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non) killed Garland, on T:20679
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03:19 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 913 points, T:1415, killed by a bat
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03:39 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3112 points, T:2807, killed by a snake
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04:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Crom, on T:17425
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04:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:17633
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04:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:59886
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04:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] skelly (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful giant rat, on T:3099
04:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] skelly (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3639
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05:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] skelly (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2126 points, T:3969, killed by a white unicorn
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05:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 570144 points, T:60897, killed by a minotaur
05:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:68
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05:28 <APic> Just for the Record: „*color12: #c369e6“ in my .Xresources actually only made Fountains purple, but not Floating Eyes (which i believed had the same Colour). The Setting that actually works for them is „*color4: #c369e6“
05:30 <paxed> fountains are bright blue since 2016 or so
05:30 <Andrio> Fountains and floating eyes aren't the same colour, yeah
05:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a crested helmet entrusted to her by Crom, on T:18512
05:30 <Umbire> LOL
05:30 <Umbire> HoB
05:30 <Andrio> Was it opposite alignment?
05:30 <Andrio> ah
05:30 <Umbire> It's +5 granted so I'm no longer a total himbo
05:30 <Umbire> erm, herbo*
05:31 <Andrio> Nice!
05:31 <Umbire> but I have next to no use for the stat boots currently
05:31 <Umbire> that said it's better to have over the +4 orc helm I lucked into previously
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05:33 <Umbire> Uh oh, witherlings.
05:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 321 points, T:1455, killed by a bear trap
05:36 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:2880
05:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 804 points, T:2198, killed by a bugbear
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05:48 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3093 points, T:3200, killed by a soldier ant
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05:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:1756
05:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a dented pot entrusted to her by Crom, on T:19493
06:00 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1635 points, T:1942, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
06:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:21197
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06:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:27953
06:24 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1920 points, T:1849, killed by a human zombie
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06:33 <Umbire> Oh right, that's one other perk to HoB gift
06:33 <Umbire> foocubi encounters make a non-zero amount of sense to pursue
06:36 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 11221 points, T:3418, killed by a half-dragon mummy
06:37 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 403 points, T:913, killed by a mountain dwarf
06:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 3 points, T:191, killed by a jackal
06:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a hill giant, on T:21582
06:40 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 325 points, T:527, killed by a hobbit
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06:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4271
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07:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] willspoke (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:50197
07:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23301
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07:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:25388
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07:56 <amateurhour> does unnethack improve orctown in any way?
07:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [un] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown, on T:1159, rt[0:09:13]
07:59 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5509 points, T:4473, killed by an enormous rat
08:00 <bhaak> what's there to improve? isn't it perfect?
08:00 <amateurhour> hah
08:01 <amateurhour> evilhack adds a shop, vanilla scatters orcs with loot around the mines
08:01 <amateurhour> not sure if unnethack does anything
08:03 <bhaak> xnethack has Izchak barricaded away
08:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 260 points, T:229, killed by a kobold
08:03 <bhaak> evilhack adds a shop? it really is easybabyhack
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08:05 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> Easy Version - Infant-Level Hack = EvilHack
08:06 <bhaak> I have the idea of letting Izchak escape and wander the level above minetown. to provide a side quest of liberating minetown and if you've done so, he would go back and reopen his shop
08:06 <Arahael> That'd be awesome - with the chance of a magic lamp.
08:07 <bhaak> but that is code that is missing in vanilla. even if you have a shopless shopkeeper and a deserted shop, the shopkeeper won't repurpose that shop.
08:07 <amateurhour> if only there was a charming and brave and handsome dev team member that wants to shave that yak
08:08 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> ew why would you want to shave a yak
08:08 <mobileuser> ordinary mortals wouldn't
08:09 <mobileuser> if you're charming and brave and handsome however...
08:09 <Umbire> Greetings ET
08:10 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> greetings earthlings
08:11 <NetSysFire> i wonder if earthlings would translate to elves or orcs
08:14 <Umbire> did you see my thing asking you to DM me
08:14 <Umbire> because if not then DM me
08:14 <Umbire> NetSysFire: it'd translate to gnomes
08:14 <Umbire> obviously
08:16 <rld> <@Umby> nvm I'll just DM you
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08:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:22431
08:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [un] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 54 points, T:101, killed by a fox
08:56 <Grassy> "Dropped into the Bigroom" more like
08:57 <Grassy> fell thru trapdoor
08:57 <aosdict> "grasshopper has entered the party!"
08:57 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> grasshopper: "no let me out >:("
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09:02 <Grassy> nah, I brought life to the party!
09:03 <Grassy> now everyone seems to be dead... ooops
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09:04 <stenno> every bigroom we reach is dead
09:05 <aosdict> you brought life and then death
09:05 <stenno> i am become grassy, destroyer of bigrooms
09:06 <Grassy> creator and destroyer
09:06 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> hey aosdict where's the code for how the thiefstone fixes on a particular set of coordinates
09:14 <Stella> stenno: yo
09:14 <Stella> bhaak und ich mache gerade was
09:15 <stenno> das ist gut
09:15 <stenno> was machen ist gut
09:15 <stenno> was macht ihr denn?
09:17 <Stella> warte und einfach schauen
09:18 <stenno> Ich gehe jetzt aber erstmal eine rauchen
09:18 <stenno> kannst mich ja pingen wenn was ist
09:18 <Stella> kay
09:19 <Stella> rauch doch und geniesst du dich
09:19 <Stella> im sure i said that worng
09:20 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> Get practice
09:20 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> Start strim
09:20 <Stella> jaja wart doch mal
09:20 <Stella> >:[
09:21 <Stella> verpiss dich, arschloch!
09:21 <stenno> kekw
09:22 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> no
09:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1840
09:23 <Stella> wir wollten um 15:00 anfangen aber
09:23 <Stella> ich habe Kaffee abgeholt und da war eine Schlange D:
09:23 <Stella> muss auch setup machen
09:25 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> Ok don’t listen to me
09:25 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> I don’t even know germanese
09:25 <Adeon> ich kann deutsch
09:25 <Adeon> ich good deutsch ja 
09:26 <NetSysFire> Stella: its always surprising how quickly foreigners lern stuff like arschloch and other insults like "verpiss dich"
09:26 <Adeon> sauerkraut nummer eins
09:26 <Stella> Adeon: kartoffelsalat!
09:26 <Stella> jaja genau
09:27 <Stella> NetSysFire: aber ich bin doch fast 6 Jahre im Deutschland, schon.
09:28 <Stella> aber genau, verpiss dich, sitzpinkler, die habe ich ganz schnell gelernt (-:
09:28 <stenno> i know finnish
09:28 <stenno> mansikat korppi
09:29 <Stella> i can also swear in danish and catalan
09:29 <Stella> for Helvede! hold dein keft!
09:29 <Stella> butifara de pages
09:29 <Stella> there's also va cacare but that's italian or something
09:30 <Stella> and ofc va fanculo
09:31 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> Why y’all make me put this is translate
09:31 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> I give up
09:31 <Stella> nobody made you do anything :P
09:31 <Stella> your are responsible for your actions
09:31 <Adeon> no habla
09:31 <Stella> Adeon: hola
09:31 <Stella> dos cervesa por favor
09:32 <Stella> cervesas*
09:32 <rld> <@nabru> !booze
09:32 * Beholder pours @nabru a cup of polka-dot tea, distilled by demogorgon at 131 degrees Fahrenheit.
09:32 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> Here in America we only learn one language
09:32 <Stella> cerveses*
09:32 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> Stupidest country in the world
09:32 <Stella> that's patently untrue Shadow_Rider
09:33 <Stella> there are parts of your country where it's standard to learn Spanish in school
09:33 <Stella> and where you have large spanish-speaking populations
09:33 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> I learn Spanish in school too
09:33 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> “learn”
09:34 <amateurhour> haha that happens in a lot of countries too, nothing special about america there shadow rider
09:34 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> well if america had 15 languages in its area, we'd probably learn more than 1 too
09:34 <amateurhour> I "learnt" french and all I can say now is omelette du fromage (and that's not even gramatically correct)
09:34 <Stella> yeah just like we "learn" french lol
09:34 <Stella> lmfao nice ref
09:34 <Stella> amateurhour: tahts all youc an sayyy
09:35 <rld> <@nabru> Here in Brazil we learn Portuguese and some English, mostly
09:35 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> Oh not as bad as I thought then
09:35 <rld> <@nabru> I recall learning some Spanish but I don't know if it's still taught in high school
09:35 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> I was informed by many ppl that the rest of the world outclasses us in the language department
09:36 <amateurhour> well the rest of the world speaks english better than you, sure
09:36 <amateurhour> :^)
09:36 <Stella> hahaha
09:36 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> :p
09:36 <Stella> amateurhour: u wanna watch german strim?
09:36 <Stella> its basically like dutch with an accent
09:36 <Stella> u shall surely be fine
09:36 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> we can afford to be lazy in languages because we made everyone else learn english xP
09:37 <amateurhour> ah yes, Deutsch, the lancuage of the Dutch peoples
09:37 <Stella> indeedles
09:37 <Stella> dunno why they spell it funny like that
09:37 <Stella> why not just spell it Dutch
09:37 <amateurhour> ikr makes no sense
09:37 <rld> <@ichbinmiah> My grandmother was Dutch and rolled some amazing Rrrrrrrs.
09:37 <amateurhour> I'll probs pop in and out and watch it in the background
09:38 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> aoei you gonna do the ones from last week
09:38 <amateurhour> lived in Germany for 8 years as a kid and can't speak any german :')
09:38 <rld> <@ichbinmiah> She explained to me that speaking Dutch was like if German and English had an accident
09:38 <Stella> yeah S_R
09:38 <raisse> rolling R's is a skill that not all Dutch people have, I had speech therapy for it as a kid and never learned
09:38 <rld> <@ichbinmiah> That has always stuck with me 😄
09:38 <Stella> raisse: I can roll like the best of 'em
09:38 <Stella> probably my russian blood :)
09:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1182
09:39 <Demo> German is a barbarian language
09:39 <Stella> Demo: correct
09:39 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> Speech therapy to roll rs lmao
09:39 <amateurhour> why would you roll your arse that makes no sense
09:39 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> i guess demo is a roman throwback
09:39 <Stella> lmfao
09:39 <raisse> and ALL my names (legal name, name I use, legal surname, married name, two nicknames) have an R in them
09:39 <rld> <@ichbinmiah> German can be a lovely language. But on occasion is is really really not.
09:39 <raisse> I like the way German tastes when I speak it
09:40 <rld> <@ichbinmiah> But the same is for all languages.
09:40 <bhaak> raisse: is the R always rolled in Dutch? in German, it's a regional/dialect thing. the southern parts do it
09:41 <Stella> yeah i noticed this, my first german teacher was from Muenchen and she rolled
09:41 <Stella> but in Hamburg most people don't
09:41 <raisse> it's partly a dialect thing, partly a "everybody should speak this artificial standard Dutch" thing
09:41 <Stella> Hamburg also has a funny dialect thing where people turn -g ending to -ch ending
09:42 <Stella> (with preceding vowel)
09:42 <amateurhour> aoei are you and bhaak practising for the stream together today is that what the stream is?
09:42 <Stella> aye
09:42 <Stella> bhaak: is your headset working
09:42 <bhaak> Stella: I have a working headset. just not the one I would prefer :-)
09:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 18 points, T:202, poisoned by a dart
09:44 <mobileuser> As a Dutch speaker, I was surprised when I learned there is also the "throat" R like in French
09:45 <Stella> ah ok ok
09:45 <raisse> yes, that's the one I use because i can't do the tongue thing
09:45 <Stella> dann sind wir fast bereit oder
09:45 <bhaak> ja
09:46 <mobileuser> wo ist der stream dann
09:47 <Stella> das wird bald ei twitch.tv/aoeixsz4 live
09:47 <Demo> as an american my opinion on who speaks the most coherent english out of all the non pretty much only english speaking countries in europe, its the dutch
09:48 <NetSysFire> why is #hdf suddenly speaking german
09:48 <bhaak> Deutsche Invasion
09:48 <amateurhour> what if we've been speaking german the whole time but we've been using too much denglisch
09:48 <raisse> Demo: finland does pretty well too
09:49 <Demo> i think so does sweden but idk at some point its a personal preference thing with accents
09:50 <Demo> and the dutch usually sound to me like they are just talking kinda funny and its a lot lighter of an accent usually and not very heavy
09:50 <Demo> like some sort of very very very confused and lost hypercanadian
09:51 <mobileuser> lol
09:51 <amateurhour> lol
09:52 <mobileuser> the difference between eg "bed" and "bad" is difficult for a lot of dutch speakers 
09:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:12381
09:52 <mobileuser> I make "laminate" sound like lemonade
09:52 <aosdict> @Earth Traveler you mean the code for a thiefstone picking its spot when it randomly generates? that's in mkobj.c
09:53 <aosdict> if wished, or reset, it is set to the player's current space
09:55 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> okay thanks
09:55 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> i wanna apply this to making trapdoors drop you at fixed points eventually
09:55 <aosdict> trapdoors but not holes?
09:55 <aosdict> the issue with holes is, the player can make as many of them as they want
09:56 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> right holes too
09:56 <aosdict> and if you untangle that it ends up needing some big overhauls to data structures (though it might be easier in 3.7 and has been done in fiqhack)
09:57 <stenno> chwyzer accent
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10:19 <nabru> !ping
10:19 <Beholder> nabru: Pong! 
10:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:537
10:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14611
10:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 740 points, T:2123, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
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10:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3569
10:39 <rld> <@luxidream> !pom
10:39 <Beholder> @luxidream: The moon is full for 2 more days.
10:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "thoroughly historic very fixed fireproof diluted very dragonhide +5 hawaiian shirt of drain resistance named pay closer attention to melee messages you turkey", on T:61976
10:42 <hothraxxa> shit forgot to bless it
10:42 <Adeon> the moon is really dumb
10:42 <Adeon> stupid yellow disc in the sky
10:42 <Adeon> watching
10:42 <Adeon> scheming
10:42 <Adeon> probably cheese
10:42 <Adeon> it even sometimes comes up during the day
10:42 <Adeon> dumbass moon daytime is sun time not moon time
10:42 <Adeon> we could build a large plastic black cover to cover it up
10:43 <rld> <@luxidream> moon you’re drunk
10:43 <Adeon> so I wouldn't have to look at it
10:43 <rld> <@luxidream> go to sleep
10:43 * hothraxxa fakes a video of landing on a big wheel of cheese
10:43 <rld> <@luxidream> flat moon theory
10:43 <Adeon> it's croissant shaped
10:44 <Adeon> add it to the list of stupid moon things
10:45 <Adeon> I'm sure they faked the moon landings on mars
10:46 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> mars isn't even real
10:46 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> i look up, but i can't see mars anywhere
10:47 <rld> <@luxidream> and then the god of war descended on statuesurfer and he was never seen again
10:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6154
10:47 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> uh no i'm still here
10:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:6163
10:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] Qwesti (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 804 points, T:1516, killed by a homunculus, while helpless
10:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6336
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10:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gnoll] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 9088 points, T:5871, quit
10:52 <nabru> !lastgame ssnufd
10:52 <Beholder> nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/ssnufd/gnollhack/dumplog/1627164414.gnoll.txt
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10:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:8052
10:59 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> ha easy
11:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a leather oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14935
11:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8733
11:02 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> pls nerf shadow's hax
11:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed APic's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:1452
11:03 <nabru> !lastgame APic
11:03 <Beholder> nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/APic/nethack/dumplog/1627132165.nh.html | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/APic/nethack/dumplog/1568306148.nh.html
11:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1629
11:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1875 points, T:1787, caught herself in her own ball of lightning
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11:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12293
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11:20 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> lol sometimes i too wonder if i'm hacking
11:21 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> just found a tool shop with holding bag 2 markers fire horn and tinning kit
11:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3883
11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16872
11:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non) destroyed Chaos, on T:20722
11:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:15495
11:37 <stenno> kinda difficult to explain nethack during a speedrun imo
11:37 <stenno> i would expect people to at least have a basic knowledge about roguelikes
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11:46 <rld> <@luxidream> There is an @
11:46 <rld> <@luxidream> The @ moves around
11:46 <rld> <@luxidream> @ bumps into guy, guy dies
11:46 <rld> <@luxidream> @ explores randomly generated dungeon
11:47 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> you should say these four lines at the start, and then nothing else for the entire run
11:47 <rebatela> i miss finding markers in hardware shops 
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11:47 <rld> <@luxidream> The rest is trivial and left as an exercise for the viewer
11:48 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> "who were all those purple-pink guys you killed?" "don't worry about it, they weren't important"
11:50 <bhaak> stenno: not sure if you can expect that. it's a speedrun event. some people will probably run the channel 24/7 and tune in and out of it randomly. like a CCC conference.
11:50 <stenno> sure, but what i rather meant is if it makes sense to explain stuff as if the audience has never played nethack
11:51 <stenno> i mean its super complex
11:51 <stenno> do you want to start with 'the @ is the player, the letters are monsters'
11:53 <stenno> hope i can get the point across i am trying to make
11:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:22150
11:55 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> lol I'm the @ symbol but no one can tell what or where to look because it's moving too fast
11:56 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> for the untrained eye
11:56 <rld> <@Earth Traveler> lux can pad out the time for the speedrun by just never pressing 5 before moving
11:58 <paxed> it doesn't differ from all the other speedruns. you watch those, without having played the game, and it's incomprehensible
11:58 <paxed> and only the notable sequence breaks or lucky chances are usually explained
11:58 <bhaak> stenno: yes. "NetHack is a game of colored letter salad. the @ is the player, the letters are monsters, the rest are walls, furniture, and items. for more details, follow the links in the chat." :-)
12:00 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> i think people tend to enjoy watching games that they've played before being run because they at least have a connection and sense of the goal
12:00 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> paxed is right no one fully understands what's going on for a game they've never played even with commentary
12:02 <stenno> not fully
12:02 <stenno> but i understand that platformer with the guy with the whip even though i have never played it
12:02 <stenno> i understand f-zero 
12:03 <bhaak> yes, nethack's accessibility is low but you can't assume everybody has that knowledge
12:03 <bhaak> otherwise you wouldn't need any commentators to begin with
12:04 <bhaak> I see it more as a sports commentator thing
12:04 <stenno> i don't assume everybody has that knowledge
12:05 <aosdict> when I've watched luxistreams in the past (e.g. setseed tournaments) he's usually pretty good about explaining why people did things for those who may not know
12:05 <stenno> its just the question how would i comment something as complex as nethack where even the basic interface is confusing 
12:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Law) had a broadsword entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:7927
12:06 <bhaak> with that platformer with the guy with the whip you might see what the level looks like and what runs around but you wouldn't understand why the player is doing something
12:06 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> well i watched a luxistream before starting to play nethack and asked questions but it made no sense
12:06 <aosdict> true it is probably not aimed at people with literally no knowledge
12:06 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> only once i had a baseline of nethack knowledge did things start to make sense
12:06 <Adeon> I think I watched ekiM ttyrecs long long ago
12:06 <Adeon> before I ascended a lot
12:06 <rld> <@luxidream> I think we explain more than some other runs. Many runners can assume that viewers are familiar with their series
12:06 <aosdict> but for those people I'd recommend nethack LPs on youtube rather than trying to follow a livestream
12:06 <rld> <@luxidream> And then just go off on that assumption and talk about more complex stuff
12:07 <rld> <@luxidream> Like the persona run, I understood about zero of that backgrounding a few hours of it
12:07 <aosdict> "and now we see that shadowrider has moved right, this is done by pressing l, or 6 if on numpad" who is going to get anything out of that
12:08 <bhaak> even if you assume the only viewers are people that already have played nethack, you can't assume that they ever exceeded dungeon level 10
12:08 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> lol
12:08 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> i think you guys do a good job showcasing cool things about nethack to pique interest
12:08 <bhaak> the beauty of nethack is that you hardly see the interface :-)
12:08 <bhaak> only map, messages, stats, and inventory
12:08 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> but slower style LP like aosdict said may be a good thing to advertise for those that want to learn more
12:09 <Adeon> are there youtube tutorial videos about nethack
12:09 <Adeon> explaining the basics
12:09 <Adeon> those things are common for other games that are complicated to get into
12:09 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> there are but i found most hard to get into
12:11 <bhaak> there are lots of speedruns for conventional games that are hard  to watch without a commentary because the players are exploiting so much. and if we add glitch speedruns, you have no chance at all to understand
12:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:13360
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12:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:25730
12:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] discordrr (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2504
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12:28 <Adeon> speaking of the moon
12:28 <Adeon> the game takes place in a dungeon
12:28 <Adeon> the moon isn't even visible
12:28 <Adeon> why does it have an effect on things
12:29 <Adeon> if I make a nethack variant the goal of the game will be to destroy the moon instead of getting some trinket
12:31 <rebatela> the moon has all sorts of effects that don't involve being able to see it 
12:33 <Demo> isn't the moon an old wives tale? thats just a reflection of the sun from the ocean that you see in the sky
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12:37 <stenno> Adeon: tonehack has a beginners guide to nethack
12:37 <stenno> on yt
12:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29277
12:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:5101
12:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 3966 points, T:5103, quit
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12:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:30082
12:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18348
13:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:30539
13:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Robber, on T:30663
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13:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63701
13:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:63702
13:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63703
13:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the Invocation, on T:63727
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13:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63732
13:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] discordrr (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3132
13:15 <bhaak> stenno: I have no clue how many people will be watching but right now, there are over 1000 people in there https://www.twitch.tv/germench
13:16 <stenno> thats a lot jebus
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13:16 <stenno> sorry to offload all that pressure to you because i chickened out
13:19 <bhaak> haha
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13:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Master Assassin, on T:33321
13:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33325
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13:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:34086
13:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) averted death (petrified by a cockatrice), on T:34238
13:38 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> there's a lot about nethack that people can enjoy with no knowledge
13:39 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> like i was able to explain how billdacat doesn't even want to play unless he gets a bunch of free wishes, and i tend to dawdle around in minetown trying to score freebies and level up my pet rather than make fast progress, and my partner said "it sounds like your personality can really come through the way you play the game"
13:39 <froggles> I think good commentary would make it great for anyone
13:40 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> and all the different ways you can fall down stairs or into pits and even help monsters escape pits, and the way greased cloaks work, a lot of NH makes some kind of weird irl sense
13:40 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> like whenever i play music irl, people run away while i shoot them in the back
13:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed meek's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2123
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2381
13:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] discordrr (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a Green-elf corpse, on T:4701
13:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] discordrr (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4879
14:01 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3107
14:01 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed tsimons' ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3107
14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a leather bag of holding, on T:11120
14:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:4032
14:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:958
14:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13001
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14:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Nec Dro Fem Cha), 936 points, T:1883, killed by a goblin, while helpless
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14:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:25924
14:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1282
14:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 855 points, T:1162, killed by a kitten
14:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:5161
15:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a steel spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:27176
15:10 <rld> <@nabru> !booze
15:10 * Beholder hands @nabru a tumbler of liquid courage, brewed by the /dev/null/oracle at 32 degrees Fahrenheit.
15:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Nec Dop Mal Cha), 648 points, T:806, killed by a little dog
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15:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 198 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45180
15:19 <AntiVirus> I'm totally confused as to when I can get my Psudodragon to attach the minetown priest
15:19 <AntiVirus> they were totally going at it a minute ago, and then he cast a lightningbolt at my pet, and they just stopped fighting
15:20 <AntiVirus> and as for why they started, who knows?
15:20 <AntiVirus> I swapped places with the priest with the Pseudodragon on a leash, and they randomly started fighting
15:21 <mobileuser> pets stop fighting in general when their HP is too low?
15:21 <AntiVirus> yeah maybe that was it
15:21 <AntiVirus> lightning bolt must have brought him low
15:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a crystal dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:27853
15:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 5423 points, T:5001, quit
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15:25 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:6685
15:28 <bhaak> Stella: it looks like the estimate is not a hard limit. I've been watching and some have exceeded their estimates.
15:28 <bhaak> also, it's a 24/7 event that runs for more than a week?!? https://esamarathon.com/schedule/
15:30 <bhaak> https://www.twitch.tv/esamarathon
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15:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] discordrr (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6950
15:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:46246
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15:31 <bhaak> stenno: I'm watching right now "Star Wars: Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy" and I'm not sure I understand anything :-)
15:32 <stenno> hah ok
15:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the elven high priestess of Moloch, on T:64139
15:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:64141
15:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:46607
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15:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3352
15:41 <rld> <@luxidream> It is not, but you are strongly encouraged to not go over
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15:42 <rld> <@luxidream> You’re supposed to have a 99% chance of hitting your estimate
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15:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47333
15:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:47548
15:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master liches), on T:47614
15:50 <Stella> bhaak: lol
15:51 <Stella> luxi: the recording bhaak and I commented earlier today was *real* tight
15:51 <Stella> 1:28 and change i think?
15:51 <Stella> you've only gone over once in practice tho right
15:52 <rld> <@luxidream> yea because I snapped wow lol
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15:53 <Stella> ok don't snap wow on Tuesday c:
15:53 <rld> <@luxidream> don't worry I changed my paranoid settings
15:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Hum Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:4052
15:54 <Stella> 👍 
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15:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4142
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 86 points, T:183, killed by a sewer rat
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:4219
15:59 <amateurhour> tfw no chance of wow snap at the event :(
16:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1125
16:01 <rld> <@luxidream> I dunno, I could typo "YES" at the event after selecting wowsnap
16:01 <rld> <@luxidream> it's possible
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16:02 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:54192
16:02 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54195
16:04 <bhaak> @luxidream why are you displaying your experience points and turncount? especially after the quest? isn't this obscuring valuable status information? I was kinda worried when I saw TermIll flash there
16:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] discordrr (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9079
16:04 <rld> <@luxidream> sometimes I kill sea monsters to go to 11 or 12
16:05 <rld> <@luxidream> to do that I need to know my exp point total
16:05 <rld> <@luxidream> turncount has to be known to pray somewhat safely early on, and I'm not wasting time to turn it off later
16:06 <rld> <@luxidream> also, knowing when I'm close to 5 is important too
16:06 <Stella> ah right
16:08 <rld> <@luxidream> ghosts give decent exp as well, and if I'm close to the threshold
16:08 <paxed> I posted an announcement about the speedrun to the nethack rules group on FB
16:08 <paxed> @luxidream: i'll try not to break the game just before the speedrun ;)
16:09 <rld> <@luxidream> thanks paxed :D
16:09 <rld> <@luxidream> much appreciated
16:09 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 418 points, T:827, killed by a kobold lady
16:09 <paxed> the minetown shop has been fixed, just need to K2 to update hf
16:09 <paxed> you'll also get gold dragons ...
16:10 <bhaak> hits the keyboard like a machine gun but has no time to press 4 keys to turn off settings
16:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 370 points, T:174, killed by a dwarf zombie
16:11 <rld> <@luxidream> I have stops for termill it's fine
16:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4948
16:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 184 points, T:264, killed by touching Hellfire
16:14 <NetSysFire> not alert?
16:14 <NetSysFire> i have termill and stuff as alert
16:15 <rld> <@luxidream> I just copied over my NAO rcfile
16:16 <rld> <@luxidream> alert isn't in vanilla unfortunately
16:18 <NetSysFire> pretty sure it is in hdf
16:19 <paxed> it is
16:19 <rld> <@luxidream> it's probably hdf specific
16:19 <paxed> yup
16:19 <rld> <@luxidream> I could add it but I'm not used to pressing tab
16:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:7817
16:19 <amateurhour> just bribe the devteam to add alert to 3.7 just before the race
16:19 <amateurhour> ...and guaranteed wow in soko
16:19 <amateurhour> revert a couple of days later e z
16:20 <paxed> if (!strcmp(plname, "Luxidream")) { ... }
16:20 <Demo> wow the nethack community is fixing a speedrun
16:20 <Demo> need some confused enchant weapon
16:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Cha), 1444 points, T:1769, killed by a jaguar
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16:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 265 points, T:415, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
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16:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65443
16:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 819 points, T:2083, killed by a brown mold
16:27 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 387 points, T:440, killed by a white unicorn
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16:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 9196 points, T:8790, killed by a rope golem
16:29 <Stella> lmao
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16:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 60 points, T:209, killed by a goblin
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16:34 <bhaak> amateurhour: you don't need the devteam to collaborate but to convince K2 to tarnish his reputation
16:34 <Stella> hes playin local i think
16:34 <Stella> which is really funny
16:34 <Stella> because we normally don't consider this legit
16:34 <Stella> but ESA do
16:35 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> He breaks wr but it doesn’t count again because it was local :p
16:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Cav Dop Mal Neu), 231 points, T:894, killed by a hobbit
16:35 <Stella> lul
16:35 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> I feel like that should count tho as a special case
16:36 <amateurhour> sry the rules are v strict it must be done on an unofficial variant called setseed 
16:37 <rld> <@luxidream> I'm just following the rules I made ok
16:37 <bhaak> he just needs to sleep at K2's place to get an indecent good ping
16:37 <Stella> lol
16:37 <Stella> or sleep in the aws datacenter
16:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65953
16:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a broadsword bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:1239
16:39 <bhaak> high frequency traders are noob's compared to nethack speedrunner
16:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:13, killed by a cadaver
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16:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 215 points, T:903, killed by a jackal
16:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Xerxes (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1600
16:45 <aosdict> sleep in the datacenter yes, hdf isn't at K2's house these days
16:45 <Stella> i heard a rumour that may change
16:45 <Stella> but yeah, for now he'd have to sleep in the datacenter
16:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] discordrr (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 20526 points, T:9522, killed by a soldier ant
16:46 <amateurhour> hardfought LAN party at K2's house WHEN
16:47 <stenno> thatd be awesome
16:47 <Stella> hehe
16:49 <stenno> i would probably maybe travel to the US for that
16:49 <amateurhour> I would also definitely maybe do that
16:49 <Stella> i have a north america trip planned somewhen
16:49 <Stella> which i may try to make coincide with the LAN party
16:50 <stenno> what do you want in north america lol
16:50 <Stella> to visit persons of interest
16:50 <Stella> also DEFCON
16:50 <Stella> one year
16:50 <stenno> actually there are probably nice places here and there
16:50 <Stella> maybe
16:50 <stenno> its like a continent after all
16:50 <Stella> ya
16:50 <stenno> what is K2 state?
16:51 <Stella> virginia i think
16:51 <amateurhour> vermont I think
16:51 <Stella> yeah thats what i said
16:51 <Stella> v-something
16:51 <amateurhour> there's a v in there somewhere 
16:51 <amateurhour> yeah
16:51 <amateurhour> haha
16:51 <stenno> oh up there
16:52 <stenno> wait its the bernie sanders state
16:52 <stenno> so weed is probably legal there
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16:52 <stenno> man the nature must be awesome there
16:53 <stenno> why is west virginia not called north virginia
16:53 <stenno> also what kind of lame state name is that when you think about it
16:54 <stenno> there is virginia and west virginia
16:54 <Stella> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:54 <stenno> its basically 'virginia and that other virginia'
16:55 <rld> <@luxidream> there is north dakota and south dakota
16:55 <Demo> vermont is way cooler than virginia btw
16:55 <stenno> that makes more sense
16:55 <Demo> can concealed carry without a permit
16:55 <Muad> should be virginia and rear virginia
16:56 <Stella> is vermont the cheese one
16:56 <Muad> cuz it's further from the ocean
16:56 <Stella> i think one of them is the cheese one
16:56 <Stella> or the cow one maybe?
16:56 <Stella> well you need cows to make cheese
16:56 <Stella> it fits!
16:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7025
16:56 <amateurhour> we should all arrange the date that's best for us for the LAN party and just show up unannounced
16:56 <amateurhour> K2 would love it
16:57 <bhaak> why did they name it north dakota and south dakota if they could have named it dakota and lakota?
16:58 <rld> <@luxidream> downlakota and uplakota
16:58 <stenno> the northernmost point of the us is still further south than the southernmost point of germany
16:58 <Muad> :o
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed elenmirie the elf zombie, and former Novice, on T:2203
16:59 <Stella> :o
16:59 <Stella> it doesnt look like that on maps :[
16:59 <stenno> actually
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "ring of conflict", on T:55699
16:59 <stenno> oh wait alaska
16:59 <Stella> !!
16:59 <Muad> continental US, obvs
16:59 <Stella> i always forget alaska
17:00 <stenno> stupid russians
17:00 <Muad> but still.. doesn't sound right.. !
17:00 <Stella> yeah ;[
17:00 <Stella> goddamn russians
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17:00 <Muad> contiguous 48* or sth.. whatever they call 'em
17:00 <stenno> maine goes to 47° 28′ N
17:01 <amateurhour> stenno I think it's minnesota that reaches most north
17:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1403 points, T:2272, zombified by a dwarf zombie
17:01 <amateurhour> in the weird bit that totally looks like it should be in canada
17:01 <cathartes> maine isn't the northernmost, most of the us/canada border is at 49 N and there's a bit that goes a bit more
17:02 <amateurhour> ooh found it, it's called the northwest angle apparently
17:02 <amateurhour> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Angle
17:02 <stenno> southernmost point of germany is 47° 25′ 0″
17:03 <Stella> woah im actually way up at 53° 55′
17:03 <stenno> ok minnesota is 49 deg
17:03 <Stella> aha
17:04 <Stella> so over a degree of overlap in fact
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17:04 <stenno> 49°21
17:05 <stenno> germany is 7 degrees long
17:06 <stenno> so about the same climate then, neat
17:07 <stenno> the northwest angle is almost an enclave
17:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8381 points, T:4382, killed by a golden naga, while scared
17:08 <froggles> Is it any of you here who runs tonehack.net? Just popped up on r/roguelikes
17:08 <Stella> that'd probably be...
17:08 <rld> <@Joanna> @Tone
17:09 <rld> <@luxidream> he's streaming right now :p
17:09 <stenno> apparently northwest angle is a pene-exclave
17:10 <K2> hi
17:10 <Beholder> Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought
17:10 <Beholder> K2: Message from NetSysFire at 2021-07-24 21:25 EDT: slex still needs to be removed from https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/#bot-commands
17:11 <rld> <@luxidream> welcome home :)
17:11 <Stella> K2 :D
17:11 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> :0
17:11 <K2> Vermont
17:11 <K2> lan at my house? hah
17:12 <K2> luxi are you playing online or local for your stream contest thing
17:12 <stenno> custom fruitname bid
17:12 <K2> 'Carl'
17:12 <stenno> there will be at least one for 'penis' or 'dick'
17:12 <K2> ^ luxi if you dont use that you suck
17:13 <rld> <@luxidream> local, so I can save backups and avoid lag
17:13 <K2> savescum, check
17:13 <stenno> i will vote for 'cockatrice corpse. You touch the cockatrice. You die...'
17:13 <stenno> corpse*
17:13 <K2> luxi you could compile a local copy of 370-hdf and use it
17:14 <rld> <@luxidream> that's what I've done for practice so far
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17:14 <rld> <@luxidream> though it's a bit out of date, I need to update it to show off the nice gold dragons
17:14 <stenno> i built 3.7.0 in a docker container using https://github.com/matsuu/docker-nethack
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17:14 <stenno> could try that
17:14 <K2> i've updated the repo for it, so its current, i just need to update the servers
17:14 <K2> will do that tonight
17:14 <stenno> with setseed
17:14 <rld> <@luxidream> very nice, setseed too?
17:14 <K2> (setseed is also current)
17:15 <rld> <@luxidream> cool
17:15 <K2> compile with hints/linux-debug or hints/linux-debug.2021
17:15 <rld> <@luxidream> stenno: you need to vote with your wallet, the good news is the money goes to charity
17:15 <K2> either 370-hdf or setseed
17:15 <rld> <@luxidream> https://donations.esamarathon.com/bids/esa2021
17:16 <Stella> vote for what
17:16 <stenno> fruitname
17:16 <rld> <@luxidream> custom fruit name
17:16 <Stella>  oh lmao
17:16 <K2> aoei we should add the realtime clock/wallclock bits to 370-hdf
17:16 <Stella> remind me next weekend
17:17 <K2> luxi: fruitname = Carl
17:17 <K2> make it so
17:17 <K2> engage
17:17 <K2> earl grey tea, hot
17:17 <stenno> there is only 'good luck bugle'
17:17 <K2> hah
17:18 <rld> <@luxidream> stenno: you need to make a donation higher than $15, and put in your choice
17:18 <rld> <@luxidream> it's a bid war
17:18 <stenno> oh i get it
17:18 <stenno> i will wait a bit then
17:19 <stenno> gotta figure out how to donate here anyway
17:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Ran Dro Fem Cha), 616 points, T:1368, poisoned by a rotted jackal corpse
17:24 <Grasshopper> "A bear trap closes on your foot! You feel wise!  You must have been very observant."
17:24 <Grasshopper> Clearly not as observant as I could be
17:24 <K2> so wise
17:24 <Grasshopper> hiya K2 \o
17:24 <K2> hi o/
17:25 <Grasshopper> news? olds?
17:25 <K2> just got back from holiday
17:25 <K2> went to Maine
17:25 <K2> was fun
17:25 <Grasshopper> aha was wondering about your wanderings
17:26 <Grasshopper> what is exciting in Maine?
17:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1154 points, T:1640, poisoned by a jumping spider
17:27 <stenno> lets see
17:27 <stenno> i bid for wand of wishing
17:27 <Grasshopper> ah, beach, lakes, view of Canada
17:27 <K2> ocean, lighthouses, lobster rolls
17:27 <stenno> Grasshopper: exciting fact about maine is that its NOT the northernmost part of the contingous US
17:28 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> isn't it minnesota
17:28 <K2> hung out with one of my military fiends I hadnt seen in a couple years
17:28 <stenno> fiends
17:28 <K2> fiends hah
17:28 <K2> friends
17:28 <Grasshopper> I just looked at wikipedia and it kinda implies Maine IS northernmopst
17:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the planes, on T:66708
17:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 166666 points, T:23844, drowned in deep water
17:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66709
17:28 <stenno> Grasshopper: i know! but its actually, and here is another fun fact, the pene-exclave 'northwest angle' of minnesota
17:29 <Grasshopper> "It is also the northeasternmost among the contiguous United States, the northernmost state east of the Great Lakes, "
17:29 <stenno> northereasternmost
17:29 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> lol so not
17:29 <Grasshopper> those wiki words seem like weasel-words
17:29 <Demo> Alaska ought to be contiguous
17:29 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> sounds like some of the nethack wiki entries i've read
17:30 <stenno> Grasshopper: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Angle
17:30 <Stella> geography huh
17:30 <Stella> never was my best subject at school
17:30 <Grasshopper> stenno, everyone has an angle
17:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:56099
17:30 <stenno> Except for surveying errors,[1] it is the only place in the contiguous United States north of the 49th parallel, 
17:30 <Stella> rimshot
17:30 <stenno> why are they mentioning 'surveying errors'
17:30 <stenno> its like saying: 'unless you made a calculation error, 1 + 1 is 2'
17:30 <Demo> the northwest angle isn't contiguous cause there's water between it and the mainland
17:31 <stenno> Demo: its a pene-exclave
17:31 <Demo> you're a pene exlax
17:31 <stenno> maybe
17:31 <Demo> idk what that means but even if America owns that water (which it better) it doesn't count cause not part of contiguous us
17:32 <Stella> !rng fixbug watchrobot
17:32 <Beholder> Stella: watchrobot
17:32 <Stella> ok thanks Beholder 
17:32 <stenno> i will ask in #libera about this
17:32 <Stella> !8ball or should i be responsible and go to bed early so i can get up for work at 6am
17:32 <Beholder> Stella: Outlook not so good
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17:33 <Stella> stenno: what do you wanna ask #libera
17:33 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> demo if you look at a map with latitude and longitude lines it should be pretty clear
17:33 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> at least the one that i just looked at
17:33 <Stella> geography is for nerds
17:34 <Grasshopper> water is only a  lake, not a sea
17:34 <Demo> the northern angle is basically alaska but souther
17:34 <stenno> i asked if northwest angle is part of the contigous us
17:34 <Demo> it probably is
17:34 <Demo> technically by stupid geography definition
17:34 <Stella> i think lakes don't tend to split contiguity
17:34 <Stella> fjords can tho
17:35 <stenno> apparently its part of a contigous state
17:35 <aosdict> stenno: surveying errors is in there probably to head off pedants on the talk page going "well my cousin in montana says the survey marker on his land is actually at 49.000234 degrees north so ha take that, it's north of 49 degrees"
17:35 <stenno> which is def. true
17:35 <Demo> I didn't know that it was a thing
17:36 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:32212
17:36 <Stella> i didn't know that stuff was things but there u go
17:36 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:32213
17:36 <aosdict> K2: next time try hiking western maine
17:36 <aosdict> mahoosuc notch is fun
17:36 <Stella> u learn sumthin every day
17:36 <stenno> aosdict: lol makes sense
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17:38 <stenno> The contiguous United States or officially the conterminous United States[1] consists of the 48 adjoining U.S. states 
17:38 <Stella> oic
17:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:4, killed by a falling object
17:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed karibou the elf zombie, and former Cutpurse, on T:1598
17:38 <Demo> nobody in their right mind would consider this peninsula a contiguous part of virginia https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/868970552415633448/unknown.png
17:39 <Demo> even though they made an underwater road to get there and virginia owns the water in between it and continuous virginia
17:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:10, killed by a goblin
17:39 <Grasshopper> why not?
17:39 <cathartes> you could technically get to it from mainland virginia by boat without leaving virginia (even if that road didn't exists)
17:40 <K2> !who
17:40 <Beholder> K2: Messages from @FIQ, Umbire, and antigulp have been forwarded to you privately.
17:40 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] Saxtheowl [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players | [hdf-us] Xerxes [nh370] haldisse [nh370] Grasshopper [nh370] omghax [nh370] hothraxxa [gh] luci213 [slshm] sluggoman [evil] karibou [gnoll] ssnufd [gnoll]
17:40 <aosdict> I feel like this is a step away from saying "nobody in their right mind would consider any island a contiguous part of the state that controls the nearby mainland"
17:40 <K2> !whereis omghax
17:40 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] omghax [nh370]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
17:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:6, killed by a jackal
17:41 <Demo> it isnt an island
17:41 <Grasshopper> I think "contiguous" in these cases includes areas not far offshore, like islands for example
17:42 <Grasshopper> if you don't actually leave the territory 
17:43 <Demo> yeah i think thats the technical definition
17:43 <Grasshopper> but to get to Guam of Alaska for example, you need to leave USA as such so they are not "contiguous"
17:43 <Demo> im arguing it is counterintuitive and dumb
17:43 <Grasshopper> maybe, but I'm saying it is practical and it works
17:44 <Demo> yeah for geographers
17:44 <Grasshopper> and politicians and people wondering if they should bring their passports or not
17:44 <Demo> ok that's a good call
17:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56494
17:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:56495
17:46 <Demo> "do i have to pass through a place that might have different rules on what i can pass through with" is a pretty good thing to knwo
17:46 <Demo> "if i take a boat, no"
17:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 883 points, T:2062, poisoned by a rotted rock gnome corpse
17:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] discordrr (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 363 points, T:1208, killed by a gnome, while sleeping off a magical draught
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17:48 <nabru> !ping
17:48 <Beholder> nabru: Pong! 
17:49 <hothraxxa> Your amulet of magical breathing rusts!
17:49 <stenno> ironic
17:49 <hothraxxa> *facepalm*
17:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 441 points, T:507, killed by a gnome lady
17:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:56668
17:51 <NetSysFire> sounds like a tank of oxygen but in amulet form
17:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:4, rt[0:00:26], wc[55 days, 6:26:37], killed by a falling object
17:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed]
17:52 <NetSysFire> hax
17:53 <K2> !who
17:53 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] Saxtheowl [nh370] mobileuser [sp] | [hdf-us] Grasshopper [nh370] discordrr [nh370] hothraxxa [gh] luci213 [slshm] omghax [seed] karibou [gnoll] ssnufd [gnoll] | [hdf-au] No current players
17:53 <K2> !whereis omghax
17:53 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] omghax [seed]: (Ran Elf Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
17:53 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> 55 days
17:53 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> impressive
17:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:6, rt[0:00:50], wc[0:00:53], killed by a falling object
17:53 <K2> alrighty
17:54 <K2> 370-hdf and setseed new editlevel (36) is live on hdf-us
17:54 <K2> hdf-eu and au soon
17:54 <stenno> \o/
17:55 <aosdict> gold dragons \o/
17:55 <nabru> yay!
17:55 <aosdict> YANI: leprechauns grudge gold dragons
17:55 <K2> Carl \o/
17:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:56802
17:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:56804
17:56 <stenno> new monster?
17:56 <NetSysFire> K2 i am disappointed in you
17:56 <NetSysFire> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nethack/k2.nhrc there is no carl in here
17:56 <NetSysFire> WHY
17:57 <aosdict> well you can't have a woodchuck as a starting pet
17:58 <K2> heh
17:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Bar Dop Fem Neu), 190 points, T:1133, killed by Mr. Silistra, the shopkeeper
17:58 <nabru> you have a variant, aosdict. go add support for starting with a woodchuck
17:58 <aosdict> so does K2
17:58 <aosdict> I will leave the woodchuck related things to him
17:58 <K2> oracle as a starting role, woodchuck starting pet
17:58 <K2> CARL
17:59 <aosdict> that would be like a valkyrie starting with a fire ant pet though
17:59 <K2> i know
17:59 <K2> this is the way
17:59 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> woodchuck as a starting role, oracle starting pet
17:59 <K2> ^ that
17:59 <K2> evilhack oracle as a pet would be epic
18:00 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> are izchak and the oracle so strong at this point, that there's no reason they couldn't just go fight the elder priest themselves and ascend?
18:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 194 points, T:355, killed by a dwarf
18:01 <rld> <@luxidream> well the oracle has 0 movement points so that is somewhat of a hindrance
18:01 <stenno> say what?
18:01 <stenno> @v? oracle
18:01 <Beholder> Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 0 | Res: magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 0d4 passive magic missile | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible
18:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:67059
18:01 <stenno> oh passive
18:02 <stenno> oh wow that never occurred to me
18:02 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> upside to being a woodchuck, nothing sees you as a threat. downside is, you aren't a threat
18:02 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> have to gnaw at the base of things to collapse them onto monsters
18:02 <stenno> what happens if i zap her with speed monster
18:02 <aosdict> want to see kathryn vs gehennom
18:02 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> there has to be ways around it
18:02 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> speed boots?
18:02 <stenno> well she wont do anythin
18:03 <stenno> she wont pick up or wear boots
18:03 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> give her teleportitis
18:03 <K2> @e? oracle
18:03 <Beholder> Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 0 | Res: sleep poison petrification magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d6 cast clerical, 2d6 cast spell, 8d8 passive magic missile | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible
18:03 <stenno> you can tele her away lul
18:03 <NetSysFire> e?woodchuck
18:03 <NetSysFire> dammit
18:03 <NetSysFire> @e?woodchuck
18:03 <Beholder> woodchuck (r) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 3 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d6 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, swims, tunnels, infravisible
18:03 <aosdict> K2: I suppose when she is old enough to play evilhack IRL, you could make it so you play the game as her (in Enchantress form). kind of a limited god mode
18:03 <stenno> K2: but she will never cast the two right
18:03 <K2> heh
18:03 <stenno> only the passive one
18:04 <K2> that would be weird if she defeated herself
18:04 <aosdict> actually you may already have this if you have polyinit, I don't remember
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18:04 <K2> evilhack does not
18:04 <nabru> YASI: there's a small chance of a Oracle that has gone insane and is now hostile
18:04 <aosdict> if she were in xnh you could just polyinit into her, though you'd get the warning about potential bugs
18:05 <stenno> evilhack oracle will _not_ use her active spellcasting attacks ever, correct?
18:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:67080
18:05 <Demo> mad oracle
18:05 <stenno> with 0 movement points
18:05 <rld> <@luxidream> one time I died to oracle because I attacked a peaceful dwarf for items
18:05 <rld> <@luxidream> then bumped into her by accident
18:05 <stenno> yeah she has the passive attack
18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:67093
18:06 <stenno> this will 'fire' regardless of movement points
18:06 <stenno> but not the active ones
18:06 <Demo> ive lost many a lawful minion to her
18:06 <K2> stenno she will
18:06 <K2> if you upset her
18:06 <stenno> but how 
18:06 <stenno> does she magically get movement points?
18:06 <aosdict> I think if you tick her off she gains movement points
18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:58278
18:06 <stenno> ah
18:06 <stenno> evil
18:07 <K2> yes
18:08 <stenno> you can be super silly with the oracle in vanilla lmao
18:08 <stenno> never realized that
18:08 <NetSysFire> silly in which way?
18:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:67137
18:09 <stenno> hmm
18:09 <stenno> gotta get creative
18:10 <stenno> still less deadly than a floating eye probably though
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18:10 <NetSysFire> you are supposed to throw your stuff at the floating eye
18:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed historic holy partly eaten greased fixed very figurine of a woodchuck named cal, normally carl but this is a month with no r in it", on T:67145
18:11 <aosdict> in vanilla she doesn't even respond to ranged attacks right?
18:11 <stenno> wait does the vanilla oracle get magic movement points too or is that an evil thing
18:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:739
18:11 <aosdict> I think you can polearm the vanilla oracle to death too? or maybe not
18:11 <stenno> sounds about right
18:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4047107 points, T:67147, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/gh/dumplog/1626475362.gh.txt
18:11 <stenno> 0 points
18:11 <stenno> grats hothraxxa 
18:11 <nabru> gg!
18:11 <hothraxxa> ty
18:11 <aosdict> gratz!
18:12 <hothraxxa> only a knight left to do in grunt
18:12 <hothraxxa> thanks aosdict 
18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 592 points, T:1189, killed by a rothe
18:13 <NetSysFire> gg
18:15 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:58492
18:16 <K2> congrats hothraxxa \o/
18:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:58507
18:18 <hothraxxa> mahalo
18:19 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> nice, how long you been workin on "defeating" grunthack?
18:19 <stenno> nyahallo
18:19 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> whattaya dig about gh?
18:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) became Venus' Envoy of Balance, on T:28491
18:19 <hothraxxa> i found demonbane just before i started gehennom. dual vorpy and demonbane rocks
18:19 <hothraxxa> that's one thing
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18:20 <rld> <@riker> grunt wishes are the funniest wish livelogd
18:20 <hothraxxa> not sure how long, let me look
18:20 <rld> <@riker> *s
18:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:58574
18:20 <NetSysFire> still on my game where i found double bones caused by a floating eye in minetown with lots of bags and a boh and tons of jewels
18:21 <hothraxxa> wow first grunt ascension was 2017-05-08
18:21 <hothraxxa> first gnome healer ascended in grunt
18:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Thor, her faithful orc zombie, on T:102
18:22 <Saxtheowl> server frozen ?
18:22 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> healer!
18:23 <hothraxxa> @spicycebolla: the early game grunt is extremely hard, but the late game is great fun, once you get some wishes and kit up with dragonhide
18:23 <hothraxxa> yes, one of my pet projects was getting the first gnome healer in every variant i could
18:23 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> ah, started off with a smoky wish?
18:24 <aosdict> does the later game ever get boring?
18:24 <hothraxxa> who me? in this game?
18:24 <hothraxxa> not for me
18:24 <aosdict> because imo it exacerbates the castle power spike we have in vanilla
18:24 <aosdict> but maybe the late game is hard enough for you to need every bit of it
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18:26 <hothraxxa> ah. i have 7 first gnome healers
18:26 <NetSysFire> how long have you been playing nethack?
18:26 <hothraxxa> got a bunhc of first orc wizards too
18:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 5095 points, T:4607, killed by a barrow wight
18:27 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:58632
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18:27 <hothraxxa> lets see, i played nethack for a while on a couple of private servers with a group of friends back around 2004-2005
18:28 <hothraxxa> ascended all roles twice, quit until 3.6.0 was released. played that ascended all roles twice, then k2 started hardfought with all the variants
18:28 <hothraxxa> since then i only play variants except in the tournaments, when i play vanilla
18:28 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> old school
18:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2245434 points, T:58663, ascended
18:28 <Beholder> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Saxtheowl/nethack/dumplog/1625855660.nh.html
18:28 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> pre-hardfought variant scene musta been tough
18:28 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> geeg
18:28 <Saxtheow3> :)))
18:29 <hothraxxa> i never tried. k2 hooked me on variants
18:29 <K2> heh
18:29 <rld> <@luxidream> i always wonder what happened in the gulf between 3.4.3 and 3.6.0
18:29 <K2> team splat got me hooked on variants
18:29 <hothraxxa> for me, nothing
18:30 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> lux: nethack4 happened!
18:30 <K2> congrats Saxtheow3
18:30 <K2> \o/
18:30 <nabru> 3.4.3, nethack4, 3.6.0
18:30 <hothraxxa> there were a few other variants in there ;)
18:31 <NetSysFire> so far i only played vanilla, evil and slex. weird combination because i missed most of junethack due to illness. i should try slashem
18:31 <nabru> I've played most variants
18:31 <nabru> at least a few turns each
18:32 <AntiVirus> whoah, dwarf queen one-shotted me at full health?
18:32 <hothraxxa> NetSysFire: you should try xnethack
18:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1442
18:32 <stenno> 3.4.3 variant scene was vibrant
18:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Law), 590 points, T:1831, killed by a dwarf queen
18:33 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> i wasn't there when slash'em was around, but it feels like a Really Big Deal. like in hindsight a lot of slash'em's ideas were bad, but it sounds like it really invigorated the variant scene and also improved vanilla a bunch
18:33 <stenno> check the server list of the first junethack tournament
18:33 <hothraxxa> i hate vibr ants. too fast, too many bites per attack
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18:33 <stenno> sporkhack was probably the most important modern variant
18:33 <hothraxxa> why?
18:33 <stenno> because it inspired unnethack
18:34 <hothraxxa> heh
18:34 <hothraxxa> i like unnethack. don't like spork
18:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1735, rt[0:03:16]
18:34 <stenno> un, spork, ace, grunt, are all 3.4.3-based variants
18:35 <hothraxxa> i wish i could try ace
18:35 <stenno> then nh4 happened and it spawned a new ecosystem of variants
18:35 <hothraxxa> i consider nh4 the easiest of all 
18:35 <NetSysFire> hothraxxa: whats so special with xnethack?
18:36 <stenno> at some point ADE hosted (almost) all junethack variants, before hdf existed as a nethack server
18:36 <hothraxxa> i like the qol changes, and i like the revised spellcasting system and identification system
18:37 <NetSysFire> hmm
18:37 <stenno> ADE also hosted the leaked '3.5' version
18:37 <stenno> the variants each had their own servers
18:38 <stenno> un.nethack.nu, sporkhack.com, grunthack.com,(?) nethack4.org
18:38 <Muad> do any other variants have unnethack's autoexplore?
18:38 <stenno> nh4 has
18:38 <stenno> maybe ace too
18:38 <hothraxxa> i don't use it so i wouldn't know
18:38 <stenno> me neither
18:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:2422
18:38 <Muad> it has its problems but i like it on the first few levels
18:39 <stenno> nowadays nethack basically happens on NAO and HDF and thats it
18:39 <stenno> nethack + variants
18:39 <stenno> back then there was an ecosystem of a lot of serevrs
18:39 <stenno> nowadays junethack would probably not exist 
18:39 <stenno> or come into existence rather
18:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2567 points, T:2723, poisoned by a killer bee
18:40 <nabru> ah f... poison instadeath
18:40 <hothraxxa> k2: i don't think you publish a page with stats on games played by variant, do you?
18:41 <hothraxxa> nabru: xnethack removed poisoned instadeath ;)
18:41 <nabru> :)
18:41 <K2> hothraxxa no i dont
18:41 <hothraxxa> :(
18:42 <K2> maybe that's something aoei could do with the NHS
18:42 <K2> not just hdf but all servers
18:42 <hothraxxa> yeah but aoei is too busy atm
18:42 <hothraxxa> that annoying thing called life 
18:44 <K2> bleh
18:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4964, rt[0:12:56]
18:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5168, rt[0:13:53]
18:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3205 points, T:2600, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dog
18:45 <bhaak> at first there were public server for specific variants. multi variant public servers came later.
18:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5314, rt[0:14:44]
18:46 <bhaak> sporkhack was on NAO at one point, wasn't it?
18:46 <stenno> true
18:47 <stenno> ADE was the first multivariant server
18:47 <stenno> like, with more than 2 variants
18:47 <stenno> first proper multivariant server
18:48 <stenno> good times
18:48 <bhaak> @SpicyCebolla slashem didn't really invigorated the variant scene. it went on a while parallel to nethack development but not influencing that much. the monk is probably the most important import from slashem.  but it plays differently in vanilla than slashem because of the missing techniques
18:48 <bhaak> @SpicyCebolla sporkhack was the variant that started the 3.4 variant wave. mostly because it also came with a public server. that was news. people could play it without compiling it themselves.
18:49 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> ah, i see
18:49 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> was the extended magic not a big deal?
18:49 <K2> no
18:49 <K2> well maybe
18:49 <rld> <@luxidream> as a new player, I think slashem appeared more influential than it actually was because the wiki included slashem sections on every main page
18:49 <K2> depends who you ask
18:50 <stenno> i like how bhaak basically repeats what i stated, but it only takes him 1 sentence and its much more concise
18:50 <K2> stenno its because bhaak is a cyborg
18:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:6573, rt[0:20:27]
18:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:6577, rt[0:20:49]
18:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:16597
18:53 <bhaak> @SpicyCebolla the wizard patch was a separate patch that was applied to slashem's predecessor. I don't know how much that influenced if that patch also got added to vanilla but it existed before slashem. but we're talking ancient times now. the wizard patch was for 3.2.x that means it was coded somewhere between 1996 and 1999.
18:54 <bhaak> it's possible that back then, as slashem was much more in development, it was more influential, at least as a battle ground for some ideas
18:55 <bhaak> but in the 2000s and up, in the usenet group RGRN, slashem was basically just an argument for discounting new additions. "if you want to add another useless item, go to slashem, it already has the kitchen sink and a toilet"
18:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:7098, rt[0:25:54]
18:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:7100, rt[0:25:57]
18:57 <bhaak> also note that grunthack appears older than sporkhack, it was only distributed as an obscure patch and grunt only got online and set up a public server with 0.2.0 (that means around in 2012)
18:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:7371, rt[0:27:31]
18:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [seed] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed]
18:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:7541, rt[0:27:53]
18:59 <K2> !whereis omghax
18:59 <bhaak> in hindsight, it is rather obvious that even many of the interesting patches got not as much gameplay as they should have because of the impediment of having to compile it yourself
18:59 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] omghax [seed]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
18:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [seed] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:7, rt[0:00:36], wc[0:00:38], killed by a falling object
18:59 <aosdict> bhaak: I dispute that slashem didn't influence nethack mainline development that much; it's probably contributed more than any other variant (wizard patch? monk? and slashem stuff is still being added even in 3.7) 
18:59 <K2> !who
18:59 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] samiam [nh343] disperse [nh370] Grasshopper [nh370] KrO2 [dnh] AntiVirus [evil] shadowrider38 [seed] | [hdf-eu] omghax [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
19:00 <K2> !whereis omghax
19:00 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] omghax [nh370]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
19:00 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2 points, T:10, killed by a falling object
19:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] potato (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed]
19:01 <K2> i'd argue that sporkhack has had just as much influence if not moreso
19:01 <K2> esp recently
19:01 <K2> but I agree with aosdict that slash'em has had influence as well
19:02 <aosdict> sporkhack has added a few level maps, but iirc the largest contribution of it is orctown
19:02 <aosdict> which I don't see as on the same scale as an entire role
19:02 <K2> that used to be true
19:03 <K2> special room design came from spork
19:03 <bhaak> aosdict: as I said. the wizard patch is older than slashem. the monk plays differently and due to that it's questionable how much of a playtesting ground slashem was. then you had 20 years basically nothing before 2 monsters got added.
19:03 * nabru goes back in time and prevents sporkhack from having orctown
19:03 <Muad> was spork the first to redesign Gehennom to have less mazes?
19:04 <bhaak> and often you had "idea from X. implemented from scratch"
19:04 <K2> it may be. or maybe brass?
19:04 <Muad> <alternate-Muad> damn.. got trolltown again
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19:04 <bhaak> the heck^2 patch was also before spork. it made the gehennom mazes look like mazes even though they weren't
19:06 <aosdict> wait, did slash'em also give us riding?
19:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:8558, rt[0:35:41]
19:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:8683, rt[0:36:42]
19:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:8685, rt[0:36:46]
19:09 <rld> <@luxidream> sub hour?
19:09 <rld> <@luxidream> 👀
19:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 holy charging", on T:8934, rt[0:39:59]
19:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:8935, rt[0:40:10]
19:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:9039, rt[0:40:49]
19:12 <rld> <@SpicyCebolla> and sinks
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19:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1187 points, T:2155, quit
19:14 <AntiVirus> ok, longsword dipping...not so good
19:14 <AntiVirus> lol
19:14 <froggles> I want to start the Healer quest but looking at it, it's full of water. I've got no waterwalking or levitating. What can I do?
19:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:9517, rt[0:43:24]
19:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:9532, rt[0:43:30]
19:14 <Umbire> Wand of cold
19:14 <Umbire> scroll of earth
19:14 <bhaak> aosdict: the code suggests that Kevin Hugo (with the likely signature of KMH) was coming up with that.
19:15 <froggles> oooh I do have those
19:15 <Umbire> Bait a monster with cold breath into firing towards the main island
19:15 <Umbire> polyself into flying form
19:15 <Umbire> etc.
19:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:9811, rt[0:44:24]
19:15 <froggles> There is a blue dragon next to the portal
19:15 <hothraxxa> it's full of dragons
19:15 <froggles> white*
19:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:9820, rt[0:44:57]
19:16 <hothraxxa> if you can't kill dragons don't even think about it
19:17 <Umbire> ^
19:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:10017, rt[0:46:39]
19:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:10021, rt[0:46:44]
19:18 <froggles> I've never fought dragons. I've got hot and cold resistance. AC -16, 124 HP. Expert w/unicorn horn
19:18 <froggles> Very fast
19:18 <froggles> Feels likeit should be okay
19:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by a giant zombie), on T:10088, rt[0:47:25]
19:18 <hothraxxa> don't be in a hurry. get some way to deal with the water
19:19 <rld> <@luxidream> life saved
19:19 <rld> <@luxidream> PauseChamp
19:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:10120, rt[0:48:04]
19:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1252
19:19 <rld> <@luxidream> heading back into sanctum
19:19 <rld> <@luxidream> 18 HP
19:19 <froggles> hothraxxa: It's basically my first time being this far. I'm kinda losing aim in what to do. XP 11 with 3 blessed potions of gain level
19:19 <rld> <@luxidream> whatttt
19:20 <hothraxxa> i'd just keep on exploring 
19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 grayswandir", on T:10265, rt[0:49:25]
19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by an Olog-hai), on T:10265, rt[0:49:25]
19:20 <froggles> Okay fair enough, I've been down further so maybe I'll continue doing that. Just moved the stash to the Quest level
19:21 <rld> <@luxidream> flubbed grays wish
19:21 <rld> <@luxidream> nooo
19:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:10376, rt[0:50:26]
19:22 <hothraxxa> froggles: take your time, run away when something looks tough. explore your inner coward
19:22 <froggles> I'm 29572 turns in. Cause of stone to flesh, there's basically no rush for anything
19:23 <aosdict> bhaak: well there are KMH's all over the codebase... :)
19:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:10646, rt[0:51:51]
19:23 <hothraxxa> exactly. just don't get killed by one-more-hit syndrome and you'll be fine
19:24 <hothraxxa> !whereis froggles
19:24 <Beholder> hothraxxa: froggles is not playing.
19:24 <hothraxxa> hrm
19:24 <froggles> Just playing local
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19:24 <hothraxxa> oh
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19:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:11040, rt[0:53:20]
19:24 <Grasshopper> I just found a single room in main dungeon with 3 altars, one of each alignment
19:24 <hothraxxa> welcome to the new nethack
19:24 <aosdict> froggles: sock the hunger clock by stuffing yourself chock full of rocks
19:24 <froggles> Might have to start playing on the server though cause people do use the whereis a lot
19:25 <Grasshopper> that's what I call inclusion
19:25 <aosdict> yeah that's a themed room
19:25 <nabru> playing on the server is always a great idea, froggles 
19:25 <nabru> people then can spectate your game and help you
19:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:11377, rt[0:54:43]
19:26 <rld> <@luxidream> I wonder how many wands of wishing have been in the buried treasure room in 3.7
19:26 <rld> <@luxidream> the world may never know
19:26 <Grasshopper> you always get the latest updates too
19:26 <froggles> Can you set personal options on the server?
19:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:11392, rt[0:54:58]
19:26 <nabru> yep
19:26 <hothraxxa> absolutely
19:26 <Grasshopper> aosdict, are you saying the 3 altar room is deliberate?
19:26 <nabru> Grasshopper: yep, it's deliberate
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19:26 <rld> <@luxidream> prior to the themed room I don't think more than one altar could generate in a single room
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19:26 <Grasshopper> OK, phew, I thought the RNG was joking with me again
19:27 <nabru> As you read the scroll, it disappears.  Do you want your possessions identified?
19:27 <nabru> xnethack ... scared me
19:27 <rld> <@luxidream> uh oh
19:27 <hothraxxa> the altar was wearing a pall of displacement
19:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 218563 points, T:11621, [0:56:23], killed by the Wizard of Yendor (with the Amulet)
19:27 <rld> <@luxidream> noooo
19:27 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> oofy
19:27 <rld> <@luxidream> wtf happened in sanctum
19:28 <rld> <@luxidream> did you get bullwhipped
19:28 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> yeah didn't see it
19:28 <froggles> Oh it looks like you can't split gold
19:28 <K2> !who
19:28 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-us] samiam [nh343] Grasshopper [nh370] nabru [xnh] luci213 [slshm] karibou [gnoll] | [hdf-au] omghax [nh370]
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19:28 <froggles> That's annoying
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19:28 <K2> !whereis omghax
19:28 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] omghax [nh370]: (Sam Hum Fem Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
19:28 <froggles> Wait maybe you can drop
19:28 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:4, killed by a falling object
19:28 <rld> <@habib> RIP shadow
19:28 <hothraxxa> what are you trying to do?
19:28 <nabru> "Velkommen, nabru, welcome to Delphi!"  There's a gaping hole under you!
19:28 <nabru> "I... I didn't warn you of the trap, sorry"
19:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2145
19:29 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [seed] omghax (Ran Hum Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed]
19:29 <rld> <@luxidream> choked sub hour :(
19:29 <rld> <@habib> yeah saw that
19:29 <hothraxxa> it's the oracle. she only warns of future traps
19:29 <froggles> hothraxxa: It's all okay, I wanted to leave a bunch of gold in the stash and take some with me but couldn't adjust. It's okay though cause you can drop different amounts
19:29 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> i wil choke a few more times before it will happen
19:29 <hothraxxa> right
19:29 <K2> !who
19:29 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] samiam [nh343] Grasshopper [nh370] nabru [xnh] luci213 [slshm] karibou [gnoll] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] omghax [seed]
19:29 <K2> !whereis omghax
19:29 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-au] omghax [seed]: (Ran Hum Mal Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
19:29 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> did anyone see my crap luck on identify
19:29 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [seed] omghax (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 4 points, T:9, rt[0:00:54], wc[0:00:57], killed by a falling object
19:30 <rld> <@luxidream> i guess you didn't get a full ID
19:30 <rld> <@luxidream> it happens
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19:30 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> no its worse
19:30 <K2> NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers)
19:30 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> i read the 5 most common scrolls
19:30 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> tele
19:30 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> destroy armor
19:30 <K2> Setseed updated (all servers)
19:30 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> enchant armor
19:30 <K2> both editlevel 36
19:30 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> something else stupid
19:30 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> amnesia
19:30 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> none of them id
19:30 <rld> <@luxidream> oh you never got idenitfy?
19:30 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> i did but i blanked all my scrolls by then lol
19:31 <rld> <@luxidream> you could write one in that case
19:31 <rld> <@luxidream> I saw 2 markers
19:31 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> i wasn't close to out of charges
19:31 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> there wasn't anything that important to id
19:31 <rld> <@luxidream> well you don't know that
19:31 <rld> <@luxidream> markers are 30-99
19:32 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> !lastgame
19:32 <Beholder> @Shadow_Rider: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/setseed/dumplog/1627255826.seed.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/slashem/dumplog/1627255440.slashem.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/setseed/dumplog/1627255739.seed.html
19:32 <rld> <@luxidream> !lastgame shadowrider38
19:32 <Beholder> @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/setseed/dumplog/1627252274.seed.html
19:33 <rld> <@luxidream> the death wand and markers are important to ID imo
19:33 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> guess it was the difference between life and death for me
19:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1736 points, T:3095, killed by a fire ant
19:34 <nabru> go team a!
19:35 <Umbire> Oh yeah, I'll resume playing Evil shortly
19:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:34756
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19:43 <Grasshopper> "You resume your meal.  You hear a gurgling noise. You finish eating the long worm corpse."
19:43 <Grasshopper> Excuse me
19:45 <Umbire> lol
19:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1805 points, T:4843, killed by a dwarf
19:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:27995
19:52 <rld> <@nabru> !ping
19:52 <Beholder> @nabru: Pong! 
19:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Pebble's ghost, the former Magician, on T:28726
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20:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:36114
20:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:36116
20:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:36122
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20:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1278, rt[0:02:41]
20:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3700 points, T:17391, killed by a homunculus, while fainted from lack of food
20:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:4259, rt[0:11:13]
20:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4404, rt[0:11:43]
20:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:4898, rt[0:13:07]
20:30 <Grasshopper> K2: I was playing and my game dropped. Now it seems to be lost, I get offered a new character whem going back in!!
20:30 <Grasshopper> Save me K2, save me... 
20:30 <Grasshopper> I waited about 15 mins before trying again and same thing
20:31 <Grasshopper> HDF-US
20:31 <Grasshopper> nh370
20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1538
20:36 <aosdict> nabru: cursed ?oID is the one deliberate troll I allowed myself
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20:39 <Umbire> Only the choicest of trolling for xnh devs
20:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3276
20:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 203 points, T:328, killed by a jackal
20:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:9359, rt[0:27:08]
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20:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 146 points, T:619, killed by a goblin
20:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 holy charging", on T:10265, rt[0:31:46]
20:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4186
20:51 <K2> Grasshopper your game auto recovered
20:51 <K2> usually give it 30 min
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20:52 <Umbire> Sup K2
20:52 <Umbire> Playing ebil rn if you wanna watch
20:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4826
20:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4844
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20:53 <Grasshopper> K2 that seems quite a long time, but game is back now so thank you
20:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 cursed genocide", on T:12577, rt[0:39:07]
20:54 <Grasshopper> I found Pebble's bones in a shop
20:54 <Grasshopper> boh is unliftable and shk wants nearly $60k gold for it
20:55 <K2> cancel it
20:55 <Grasshopper> guessing that tipping is a BAD IDEA in a shop
20:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:12747, rt[0:40:25]
20:55 <Grasshopper> no wand of cancellation unf
20:55 <K2> sad face
20:55 <Grasshopper> just have to be patient :D
20:56 <Grasshopper> mind you, Pebble has a sack which, even cursed, is an improvement on my current situation
20:56 <Grasshopper> no bag
20:56 <Grasshopper> I had a bad, but was in Mines End and collecting shit
20:56 <Grasshopper> then I had to fight something so dropped it
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20:57 <Grasshopper> moved no more than 3 spaces
20:57 <Grasshopper> by the time I came back a "2" had appeared on my warning and then a gelatinous cube ate my sack
20:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 139626 points, T:13141, [0:43:15], quit
20:58 <Grasshopper> leaving bags in dark places is always more dangerous because monsters are more likely to appear there
20:58 <rld> <@luxidream> lol come on shadowrider
20:58 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> well
20:58 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> rng giveth and taketh away
20:58 <rld> <@luxidream> write another one at least
20:58 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> no
20:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:3295
20:58 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> i know when the game is not on my side
20:58 <Grasshopper> ooops
20:58 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> 2 magic lamps both hostile
20:58 <Grasshopper> someone has been bad
20:59 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> 3 cursed geno scrolls
20:59 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> no scales
20:59 <Umbire> Grasshopper: Tipping it only a bad idea if it stand to result in broken wares
20:59 <rld> <@luxidream> wait, that was the third one?
20:59 <Umbire> s/it only/is only
20:59 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> yes
20:59 <Umbire> s/stand/stands
20:59 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> 15 dragons
20:59 <rld> <@luxidream> hahaha
20:59 <Umbire> wew RIP in pee
20:59 <rld> <@luxidream> karma coming back to bite u
20:59 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> lol yep
20:59 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> im ok with it coming in waves
20:59 <Umbire> Grasshopper: granted this is also a cursed BoH so you're probably gonna end up disappearing wares too
21:00 <Umbire> So definitely cancel the bag first (but possibly be prepared to pay up if anything else gets cancelled)
21:00 <Grasshopper> Umbire, that is understood, but I'm worried the shk might charge for disappearing wares as well
21:00 <Grasshopper> stuff inside the bag won't be cancelled
21:02 <Umbire> They will, that's why I mentioned it
21:02 <Umbire> And they won't, I'm talking about anything else in the path of the beam
21:03 <Umbire> (replying in order)
21:03 <Grasshopper> Umbire, cheers
21:03 <Grasshopper> I actually like orderly shops
21:03 <Grasshopper> I put everything into one corner usually
21:04 <Grasshopper> except that boh of course, it stays where it is
21:04 <Grasshopper> then if I want to credit-clone, it makes it easier for my cat/dog to pick up just the sack of gold I've left for them
21:04 <Grasshopper> or for stealing, same thing just leave out the items you want cat/dog to steal
21:05 <Grasshopper> put something cursed on top of pile of junk stuff, if there isn't something cursed there alrady
21:05 <Grasshopper> It is just a more efficient way to shop
21:05 <Umbire> wew nymph running a ring store
21:05 <Umbire> jewelers even!
21:06 <Grasshopper> heh, sometimes monsters steal stuff for you!
21:06 <Umbire> 2x10
21:06 <Umbire> can sell diamonds I've picked up
21:06 <Grasshopper> something seems wrong about a nymph selling jewwllry
21:06 <Grasshopper> but also appropriate
21:07 <Umbire> Wrong how
21:11 <Grasshopper> One might think nymphs would covet (not in game definition) jewelry for themselves, and loathe selling to others
21:11 <Grasshopper> but at same time, a nymph may therefore be an expert on jewelry
21:11 <Muad> older nymph. too old for that "stealing" shit
21:12 <Grasshopper> and with a collection, and medical bills to pay etc.
21:12 <Muad> runs a fence operation for the younger ones
21:12 <Grasshopper> use some fencing gloves for that
21:12 <Muad> heh heh
21:12 <Grasshopper> hehe
21:13 <Grasshopper> I've done fencing and gotten all kinds of nicks and scratches on my hands
21:13 <Umbire> Alright, ID'd cancellation
21:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2988
21:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:5202
21:15 <Muad> never seen that before
21:16 <Umbire> I've seen that quite often actually
21:16 <Umbire> The rub is you only ever see it when people forget they're not lawful
21:16 <rld> <@nabru> I mostly play lawfuls, so whenever I play a non-lawful I have to remind myself to not dip
21:18 <Grasshopper> hahaha just found/ID'd a wand of cancellation that was in the shop
21:18 <Grasshopper> well, it is a vanisher worth 200zm and I've ID'd teleportation already, so it is cancellation
21:19 <Umbire> Or make invisible
21:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3293
21:20 <Grasshopper> make invisilbe is worth 150
21:20 <Grasshopper> anyways, it is cancellation and the boh has shitloads in it
21:20 <Grasshopper> honestly some people never stash stuff and just carry too much
21:20 <nabru> people like me :D
21:20 <Grasshopper> but that is my fortune today!
21:20 <nabru> I need to remember to make stashes
21:21 <nabru> or I will end with 50 food rations in my bag
21:21 <Umbire> Oh this sucks!
21:21 <Grasshopper> I've lost count of my stashes as have (had) no sack or boh
21:21 <Umbire> Big room that's dark and full of lava + water
21:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Ice Hob Mal Law), 814 points, T:2109, killed by an orc zombie, while helpless
21:21 <Umbire> I mean I have flight but it's like "wew"
21:21 <Grasshopper> but you can just make a note by naming the level 
21:22 <Umbire> And there's a mind flayer
21:22 <Grasshopper> oh nice
21:22 <Umbire> And it's bones!
21:22 <Grasshopper> hard to use missile weapons on a level with lava too
21:22 <Umbire> (karibou's specifically)
21:22 <Grasshopper> as they burn up!
21:22 * Umbire is a giant with boulders
21:22 <Grasshopper> cool hope you have some hot stuff!
21:22 <Umbire> Not that hard really
21:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:5747
21:23 <rld> <@nabru> disperse (if you're reading this), you can't dip for excalibur with a neutral
21:23 <Umbire> Oh, a red dragon just killed the bones zombie also
21:23 <Umbire> So that'll be fun
21:25 <Grasshopper> ok so one of the wands in Pebble's bag is a WoW
21:25 <Grasshopper> it must be cos 500zm and I've ID's death already
21:29 <Umbire> Congrats
21:29 <Umbire> Don't fuck up the run
21:29 <nabru> nice! Don't die!
21:29 <Umbire> in other news one of my two pseudos just slept the mind flayer
21:29 <nabru> "oh, I have a WoW so I'm invicible!"
21:30 <Umbire> so likely to be less of a problem
21:30 <nabru> *invincible
21:30 <Grasshopper> heh, I wouldn't know what to wish for you
21:30 <Umbire> Oh, apparently my shuriken burnt the mindflayer and killed it
21:30 <Umbire> sick
21:30 <Grasshopper> for *yet
21:30 <Grasshopper> fully
21:31 <Grasshopper> so my first move is to transfer all the crap from the boh to the sack
21:32 <Grasshopper> as I can't afford $60k, or even carry the full boh upstairs until I bless it
21:32 <Grasshopper> to my STASH
21:32 <Umbire> What do you mean there's a ghost on the same floor!!!!
21:33 <Umbire> and it's elenmirie
21:35 <Grasshopper> multibones?
21:37 <Umbire> Yes
21:37 <Umbire> Triple bones into double bones with a red dragon
21:37 <Umbire> but I RNG'd into shuriken of fire and stuff which is kewl™
21:38 <Umbire> Need to deal with this ghost first, if I'm para'd next to that red dragon it's GG
21:40 <Umbire> Oh right if I get too far away the fire blasts come out
21:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:9080
21:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Bar Gia Fem Neu) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:28190
21:42 <Umbire> blinded the dragon with a lightning wand
21:42 <rld> <@disperse (he/him)> head desk Well, I finally realized I couldn't be gifted excalibur as a neutral valk. I gave up and sac'd for Mjolnir...
21:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9211
21:43 <Umbire> Mjolnir is better in your case anyway and comparable to Excal somewhat
21:43 <Umbire> And now it's dust, but neither wand exploded on me
21:43 <Umbire> I consider that a win
21:43 <Umbire> FUCK YEAH
21:44 <Umbire> poison instakill
21:44 <Umbire> now to eat it and deal with those zombies
21:45 <Umbire> welp, one of my pseudos caught an illness
21:45 <Umbire> fat RIP
21:45 <rld> <@nabru> rip
21:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:9540
21:46 <Umbire> oh yikes, other pseudo dropped their corpse in the lava
21:46 <Umbire> I suppose it's what they would've wanted
21:47 <Umbire> And that's that horse eaten
21:48 <Umbire> Evil giants have intrinsic hunger, right?
21:49 <Arahael> Don't think so. Hobbits do.
21:52 <Umbire> Well in any case I have a lot of time to wait before I attempt to eat anything else
21:55 <Umbire> Time for a game of Inventory Management...
21:55 <Umbire> [[[[[3!!!]]]]]
21:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:49717
21:58 <Umbire> 👏
22:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Speleologist, on T:49811
22:00 <Umbire> That's... what rank is that
22:00 <Umbire> 22, neat
22:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gnoll] ssnufd (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 18604 points, T:9413, quit
22:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3613
22:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 117 points, T:438, killed by a lich
22:04 <Umbire> !lastgame meek
22:04 <Beholder> Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/meek/nethack/dumplog/1627245631.nh.html
22:04 <rld> <@nabru> ah, cursed genocide makes another victim
22:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gnoll] ssnufd (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 56 points, T:331, killed by a brown mold
22:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Kni Hum Mal Law), 200 points, T:985, killed by a small mimic
22:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gnoll] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 32 points, T:132, killed by an iguana
22:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11757
22:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 104 points, T:948, killed by a Keystone Kop
22:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Kni Hum Mal Law), 379 points, T:1736, killed by an acidic corpse
22:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 14005 points, T:6055, killed by a winter wolf cub
22:26 <Umbire> This evil game is gonna be legendary if I ascend it
22:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 138 points, T:850, killed by a grid bug
22:30 <rld> <@Tone> froggles:  Yep that's my site, apologies I wasn't around earlier
22:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Hum Fem Cha) entered the Big Room, on T:15075
22:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 14144 points, T:15181, killed by a bolt of lightning
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22:42 <Umbire> whee, found a magic whistle
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Kni Hum Mal Law), 666 points, T:1906, killed by a dwarf
22:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a large shield entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:29928
22:44 <Umbire> Ooh, heavy war hammer
22:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:38997
22:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:26706
22:47 <Umbire> So much delicious loot but so little carrying space
22:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:39022
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23:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:27290
23:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:15249
23:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Val Hum Fem Neu), 116516 points, T:15392, killed by a minotaur
23:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1133 points, T:1177, [0:04:55], killed by a watch captain, while praying
23:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 272 points, T:948, [0:01:32], killed by a gnome
23:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2385 points, T:2786, killed by an invisible Woodland-elf
23:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1671, rt[0:02:43]
23:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2940, rt[0:06:21]
23:16 <rld> <@nabru> ! lastgame disperse
23:16 <Beholder> @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/disperse/nethack/dumplog/1627258816.nh.html
23:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] meek (Kni Hum Mal Law), 37 points, T:85, killed by a fox
23:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 481 points, T:1084, killed by a quasit
23:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3113, rt[0:07:11]
23:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] luci213 (Mon Hum Mal Law), 2113 points, T:1809, killed by a kitten
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23:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 50124 points, T:8458, [0:27:39], killed by a displacer beast
23:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1346, rt[0:02:52]
23:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1598, rt[0:04:17]
23:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3025, rt[0:09:16]
23:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3494, rt[0:12:00]
23:51 <Umbire> Oh right, does evil have displacer beasts?
23:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:5190, rt[0:17:56]
23:57 <rld> <@Shadow_Rider> ooh got the new biroom variant
23:58 <Umbire> Bi room?
23:58 <Umbire> Are they, uh, taking applications? 😳
23:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:29738
23:59 <Umbire> ...uh oh