00:00 hmm ... if @luxidream doesn't use it, i'm betting no-one uses those keys. good to know ;) 00:00 we do use them 00:01 just not because of lack of auotpickup 00:01 use to move fast 00:01 <@Shadow_Rider> I prefer shift move which does autopickup? 00:01 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4112, rt[0:22:38] 00:01 -!- wbn has left #hardfought 00:01 <@luxidream> what commands are you referring to paxed? 00:02 @luxidream 'm' does double duty. (modify some commands as "require menu" prefix, and modify a movement key to "don't autopickup stuff") 00:02 i too remain somewhat confused. ohhhh that 00:03 -!- wbn has joined #hardfought 00:03 there's also 'M' which is the same but makes you run 00:03 <@Shadow_Rider> I def don’t 00:03 <@luxidream> as umbire said, m-move sees use in avoiding cockatrice corpses while blind 00:03 <@luxidream> I wouldn't remove it 00:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:04 pacifists also like m-move 00:04 well, that m-move is a separate key from m-nonmove ;) 00:04 now im confused again 00:04 paxed: you're confusing 00:04 stop it >:( 00:05 aoei: have you tried looking at nethack source? ;) 00:05 yes 00:05 i've source dived many a time 00:05 heck, i've wrote modifications to the nethack sources 00:05 * paxed is messing with the movement code, trying to clean it up 00:05 <@Shadow_Rider> It’s what lux said 00:05 <@Shadow_Rider> I don’t think many ppl use it but it still has use 00:06 paxed: waht did you mean by 'that m-move is separate key from m-nonmove' 00:06 aren't they both 'm' 00:06 which is the same key 00:06 don't break compatibility with any movement methods of the past 00:06 aoei: yes, but separate commands 00:06 ok so not a separate key then 00:06 a separate command 00:07 <@Shadow_Rider> Side note I’m excited for #retravel paxed 00:07 <@Shadow_Rider> Very nice addition 00:07 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: reboot] 00:07 what is that 00:07 i guess i'll make movement keys obey the m (as in "require menu") prefix and interpret it as "don't autopickup", and just remove the other m (as in "don't autopickup") 00:07 sounds like some fictional command id make up 00:08 <@luxidream> travels to last travelled location 00:08 <@luxidream> great for sokoban 00:09 sweet 00:09 Demo: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/433f0cc15fba7296d0e12c8fdd22a0ab47d6ace1 00:09 <@luxidream> also saves a lot of _<. 00:10 wouldn't it go to same coords on new map level 00:10 and thus be useless unless < was in same location on each level 00:10 oh thats epic 00:10 aoei: hm, good point. 00:10 will have to reset the target on level change, if it's not already done 00:11 <@luxidream> well you would go _<. then ^-^-^-^- 00:11 ^_^ 00:11 * aoei wanders off to fetch more tea 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 404 points, T:2443, killed by a giant spider 00:11 ^-_ 00:12 lux: idgi but i didnt read commit yet 00:13 @luxidream you're playing 366 at esa, right? 00:13 yeah that'd only work to repeatedly travel to the upstairs on the same level, luxidream 00:13 paxed: nope 00:13 he's playing beta 00:13 oh. time to break the game then... ;) 00:14 haha 00:14 paxed: did you see qt's infinite markers hack? 00:14 i think he submitted github issue 00:14 already 00:14 aoei: yes 00:14 hey paxed not a real bug report or whatever I'm supposed to do but if you get a more prompt on save load...... and hangup when that happens it shred the save 00:15 but you seem like the person to know about that 00:15 <@luxidream> I want to show off the cool things like displacer beast and new items 00:15 as nao server admin or something 00:15 Demo: which windowport? 00:15 tty 00:15 idk what you have to do to get a more prompt when loading a save 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 232 points, T:445, killed by a gnome 00:15 -!- wbn has quit [Changing host] 00:15 -!- wbn has joined #hardfought 00:16 I got it to happen in 37 when I tested a while ago but I found it way easier to get in 343 based stuff 00:16 <@Shadow_Rider> Wait lux did you report that shop bug 00:16 hm. can't think of anything off the top of my head, but i do recall curses had a bug where if that happened, it would just hang 00:16 <@luxidream> no I haven't yet 00:17 <@Shadow_Rider> Test in non seed or just report? 00:17 aoei what infinite marker hack 00:17 <@Shadow_Rider> It’s only that minetown variant btw 00:17 aoei: travel destination cache is already reset on level change 00:17 <@luxidream> I want to see if it happens in non seed 00:17 paxed: cool 00:18 <@Shadow_Rider> Not sure how to replicate 00:18 <@Shadow_Rider> It’s only happened like two or three times 00:18 Demo: if you try to engrave with an empty marker it still decrements charges (signed 8bit integer) 00:18 hell yeah 00:18 Demo: do this 127 times you get a marker with 127 charges in it 00:18 qt found it 00:18 is this a new bug? 00:18 yeah 00:18 nh37 and xnh are affected 00:18 what happened that added it? 00:18 aosdict happened 00:19 smh 00:19 doesn't 343 have engraving with markers as a special thing? whyd the code change 00:19 aosdict was cleaning up the engraving code :) 00:20 ah 00:20 makes sense 00:21 <@luxidream> I'm bored so I'll run minetown% for a bit and see if it happens 00:21 paxed: did you know that awaken_soldiers() in src/music.c (playing bugle) skips a check made by awaken_monsters() before scaring monsters 00:21 the former doesn't check onscary(0, 0, mtmp) 00:21 luxi whats shop bug 00:22 <@luxidream> i was watching shadowrider run on seed earlier and he wasn't getting izchak 00:22 shk goes out of business cause I've seen that happen in slashem 00:22 <@luxidream> abandoned shop 00:22 oh damn 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:42859 00:22 <@Shadow_Rider> I know what it is 00:23 <@Shadow_Rider> I bought so many of his magic lamps on previous runs that he went out of business 00:23 what is it 00:23 oh 00:23 wait why would that put him out of business 00:23 selling stuff is good 00:23 he gets money, more money more stock, more business 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 205 points, T:627, killed by a bear trap 00:23 <@luxidream> probably retired from shadowrider buying 6 magic lamps every run 00:24 maybe 00:24 paxed: anyway the upshot of this is bugle works to scare (non-soldier) humans, and class A 00:25 i think it was lux who discovered this 00:26 https://github.com/k21971/SlashEM/blob/0c4cc868c0d01161582125c2e72f8b1a7c9a7e55/src/shk.c#L1774 I think this was it. only ever seen this happen once in any variant ever and I will never know what was going on with my slashem game that caused it 00:26 not sure if bug 00:26 i could make github report but 00:26 lay-zee 00:26 aoei: why won't somebody please file a bug! 00:27 * paxed goes to work 00:27 paxed: well idk if it is a bug! 00:27 <.< 00:27 i should go to work too 00:27 not showered yet tho 00:27 nor had my second tea >:O 00:28 (YANI) Can there be an "autofight" option? Disabling autofight would prevent attacking when pressing a movement key (but allows autopickup and displacing). Can still attack with "F". This would save you from accidentally attacking things when you intend only to move. Could be bound to "!" to toggle on/off because the existing binding to run a shell command is not very useful. Option could be ignored 00:28 when wielding Stormbringer. 00:33 <@luxidream> @Shadow_Rider yep it happens in vanilla 00:33 <@luxidream> I'll submit issue 00:33 the missing Izchak thing? 00:33 <@luxidream> yea 00:33 heh 00:33 at least he's no longer the only source of candles lol 00:34 <@Shadow_Rider> I don’t know why but I assumed somehow orcs generate and took over the shop 00:34 <@Shadow_Rider> The few times it’s happened to me there were large groups of orcs nearby 00:34 hm 00:34 <@luxidream> huh, I also encountered a large group of orcs 00:35 <@luxidream> coincidence? 00:35 seems plausibly related 00:35 <@luxidream> anyway I'll report issue 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 582 points, T:1127, killed by a gnome lord 00:38 did u report 00:39 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Ran Gia Fem Cha), 2202 points, T:926, killed by a gas spore's explosion 00:39 <@Earth Traveler> from my variant-in-progress: "Medusa's gaze is reflected by your medallion. Medusa bites! Medusa bites! You're covered in acid! It burns!" (both of the bite attacks actually missed) 00:40 <@luxidream> aoei: yea 00:40 -!- tommo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42 <@Joanna> yey 00:55 Giving Medusa acid bites eh? 00:56 <@Earth Traveler> yeah 00:56 <@Earth Traveler> but obviously there's something missing from mhitm_ad_acid 00:57 <@Earth Traveler> but heck if i know what 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:110762 01:20 so that's two shields of reflection encountered on the Castle level 01:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Cerberus, on T:19407 01:37 -!- Kougyoku has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:49 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non) averted death, on T:22731 01:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful large dog, on T:62199 01:53 Fuck off! 01:53 goddamn system shock 01:54 F 01:54 zapped it with a wand of poly? 01:55 Mhm 01:55 no name? poor doggie 01:56 I was thinking of giving a name after 01:56 heh I Like to name them first because then you get things like mind flayers named "Mr Cat" 01:56 like back when ppl didn't give babies names for a while 01:56 cuz high risk of infant mortality 01:57 huh? ah 01:57 in Thailand they give babies real names and nicknames at birth 01:57 theory is to use the nickname then the demons or whatever won't know how to attack them 01:57 i was nicknamed pretty much from birth too 01:58 I know a guy named "fatty" and he is skinny IRL 01:59 all because he was a plumpy baby 01:59 haha 02:00 he's a good builder 02:01 understands stuff like drainage and retaining walls, which most local builders don't 02:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:62535 02:04 Oopsie 02:05 Wasn't sure I'd even get the crowning 02:05 looks lke you got your luck back up then 02:06 I didn't think it was that far up, though 02:08 if you decide you wanna watch I'm mostly gonna be doing boring inventory stuff so 02:08 fair warning 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3215 02:10 ...seem to have forgotten create monster is gold 02:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 172341 points, T:24906, killed by an ogre, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3277 02:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:4172 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4357 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4370 02:23 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1914 points, T:4570, killed by a killer bee, while praying 02:26 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:28 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 02:30 Well I now have a pet dorf queen to go with my worm 02:30 I wanna outfit her, hmmm 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 919 points, T:1834, killed by a kitten, while fainted from lack of food 02:36 <@luxidream> !who 02:36 @luxidream: [hdf-us] Grasshopper [nh370] Thidwick [nh370] lurchy [nh370] Umbire [xnh] tinklebear [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players | [hdf-eu] No current players 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:9 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 20 points, T:11, killed by a kobold 02:37 Bother, she ain't into longswords 02:37 Got a mithril one and everything 02:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 61 points, T:131, killed by a tower of flame 02:43 At least solved the armor thing for her 02:43 SHIT lol I just remembered 02:43 could've made it gray-scaled and passed her a shield of reflect 02:44 w/ever 02:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 159 points, T:1192, killed by a water moccasin 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:44028 02:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:09 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:44395 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided class m, on T:44396 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2669 03:30 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 03:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Thidwick's ghost, the former Candidate, on T:3163 03:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3277 03:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4015 03:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of mud boots on an altar, on T:4021 03:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful dwarf queen, on T:63650 03:49 Well, went and forgot I had Stormy out 03:49 That's probably gonna happen a few more times before all's said and ascended 03:50 Also death wands becoming annoyingly common 04:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8908 04:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:08 how's your xnh game going Umbire? 04:10 It's going, keep losing pets for no good reason (PSI) 04:10 Kinda wishing I had a marker right about now 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1595 04:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha) murdered Deanna, her faithful little dog, on T:1746 04:16 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown, on T:3121, rt[0:29:41] 04:17 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3187, rt[0:30:41] 04:17 how far are you in now? maybe another wand of wishing will be nearby 04:21 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3375, rt[0:34:32] 04:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1746 points, T:2544, killed by a rothe 04:29 amateurhour: I'm two demon lords through Gehennom 04:30 i informed the jobcenter about my job :D 04:30 About to give the fountains I've found a thorough touring 04:30 a little bit late but 04:30 i did it 04:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 247 points, T:460, killed by a rothe 04:32 not worth going around fountain quaffing probably 04:33 there's a wish at Vlad's which you're probably near 04:33 or at fake wiz tower 04:35 There is? o: 04:35 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 6 daggers on an altar, on T:5432 04:35 Also I don't plan to quaff, basically have all my important stats in order 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11050 points, T:6127, killed by a bolt of fire 04:35 yeah, see the wiki for where the wands of wishing are 04:36 Righto 04:36 I may as well try anyway, it's an excuse to dip stuff and make water 04:38 Oh yeah, scrolls of amnesia have use now that you forget skill levels and such instead, right? 04:38 I don't have any points to redistribute, just asking to clarify 04:38 @ amateurhour 04:39 should be yeah, but I've not really seen a need for them in vanilla 04:40 Confirmed 04:41 Oh sick, I forgot about the confused light reading 04:41 I should take a stab at making pets that way 04:41 Punishment is still useless I take it 04:46 <@Earth Traveler> hey punishment still has some extremely niche uses 04:47 OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 04:47 OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 04:47 r u ok 04:47 LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo 04:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:63723 04:48 FIRST TRY IDIOT 04:48 gratz 04:49 May as well dip in the rest, see if I luck into another 04:51 -!- Xjs has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:53 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 04:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2436 05:02 -!- Guest38 has joined #hardfought 05:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1529 points, T:2479, killed by a rothe 05:03 Is this somewhere I can ask questions about connecting to the server? 05:03 yeah 05:03 the server admin is away but maybe one of us can help 05:04 I'm not sure what they mean about sending an ssh to some email to register an account 05:04 As in, you SSH to the server in order to register 05:04 oh, it's not an email address it's username@server combo 05:05 Ah see, I know so little I didn't even understand that 05:05 if you have ssh installed (windows 10 should have this by default now) you can open a command prompt or windows terminal or what have you 05:05 and type 'ssh nethack@hardfought.org' 05:05 -!- Arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:06 a lot of windows players use a program called putty instead 05:06 like me 05:06 And me! 05:06 and my axe! 05:06 it takes some getting used to, the interface is not exactly intuitive 05:07 wsl also comes with openssh 05:07 I got Putty to connect to the games server. Not sure how to use it as a standard console. I assume I just don't enter an address 05:07 I think I'd probably just use windows terminal with ssh if I was starting today 05:07 windows terminal is good 05:08 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/867694523504787456/unknown.png 05:08 oh if you're connected to the server with putty then you've probably basically done that already 05:08 i do not touch powershell or cmd.exe though, i use git bash or WSL debian only 05:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:08 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/867694673128063016/unknown.png 05:09 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/867694747161722880/unknown.png 05:09 <@Umby> ^these are the settings I use, personally 05:09 I haven 05:09 't used putty for like a decade so can't help you there 05:10 the sane™ solution is probably windows terminal with ssh 05:11 Aight well I got it working on putty. Im sure at some point I'll run into trouble again but for now, it works. Thanks guys 05:11 I mean yeah I agree 05:11 But if you decide to go the putty route, you can use what I posted as a template 05:11 And then adjust maybe window size et. al. to your liking 05:11 So whats the advantages of using the terminal over putty 05:12 if you have to disconnect and reconnect for whatever reason its more of a pain using putty 05:12 Aight new problem, I can't move 05:14 Did you tweak your options? 05:14 It might be that you're set to something other than what you expected 05:14 What happened when you tried using hjkl, numpad, etc.? 05:16 Numpad did a bunch of weirdness. hjkl is just not a fun way to play. How do I change the settings (I've switched to windows terminal) 05:16 You edit your rcfile 05:16 Easiest way is via webeditor honestly 05:16 This is simply gibberish 05:16 longsword in Vlad's tower lower level just happens to be Fire Brand! 05:17 Next easiest way is to just import someone else's rcfile closest to what you'd prefer 05:17 Nice! 05:18 Okay so how do I go about editing and rcfile 05:18 I find j) Manage settings convenient enough 05:19 As I said, easiest way is via webeditor honestly 05:19 Next easiest way is to just import someone else's rcfile which is closest to what you'd prefer 05:19 and people will happily lend you theirs 05:19 -!- Arahael has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:19 what is command for that? I always have to search for that 05:20 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 05:21 Okay so if I find one I like, what do I do with it. Currently I just have a pastebin link 05:21 Open the web editor, log in using your account, then replace the rcfile's text with your desired text 05:22 j) Manage sessions, then z to copy from elsewhere, mobileuser 05:22 ah, thx! 05:24 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1935 05:24 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:25 something that would be kind of useful is a hall of fame of config files, like suggested ones to steal 05:25 someone should make that and post it on reddit or something 05:26 someone without a severe medical case of lazyitis 05:27 so not me, then 05:30 back then it was just stth's 3.4.3 config 05:30 easier times 05:32 <@luxidream> I think tone’s is pinned in discord 05:36 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/ToneHack/nethack/ToneHack.nhrc 05:36 it's pinned in the #nethack channel there 05:36 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6770, rt[1:50:07] 05:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2871 points, T:2919, killed by a freezing sphere's explosion 05:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45470 05:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:45471 05:45 huh 05:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:46 how do i wait-heal without accidentally being killed by something 05:46 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Bar Dwa Fem Law), 6696 points, T:1791, killed by a guardian naga hatchling 05:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2470 points, T:2242, killed by a soldier ant 05:47 . or s 05:47 that's how i died 05:47 It'll stop if a monster shows themselves 05:47 by holding . 05:47 Ah, 4k 05:47 oh is that not a problem in other nethacks 05:47 hmm 05:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:63892 05:48 Holding the button is generally a bad idea but in most recent versions it has the courtesy to interrupt the action 05:48 if a monster shows itself 05:49 * wbn nod 05:49 In either case 20[.] or 20[s] is a useful prefixing 05:49 can make it 15 or 10 depending 05:49 oh like vi-style commands 05:49 i see 05:49 i think i would have died in 4-5 moves though :/ 05:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1062 05:59 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 902 points, T:2353, killed by a wererat 06:06 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:07 <@Umby> aosdict 06:07 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/867709474176499722/unknown.png 06:08 <@Umby> iunno if you got it from me specifically when that was my thing or just came up with the reference yourself but it made me chuckles 06:08 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:16 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #hardfought 06:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3039 06:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3232 points, T:3079, killed by Mr. Gweebarra; the shopkeeper 06:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:27 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:9900, rt[2:40:41] 06:41 /3 06:41 gah 06:41 <3 06:42 <3 06:43 <4 06:44 I have returned and would like to ask if anyone has a good rcfile they'd be willing to share. Preferably one which is good for a noob like myself 06:47 <@ichbinmiah> Hi guest, scroll up for Tone's rcfile, it is pretty noob friendly 06:48 <@ichbinmiah> if you can't see it I can repost 06:48 Ah, cheers 06:50 Uh, it seems a bit broken 06:51 what're you seeing? 06:51 <@ichbinmiah> in what way? 06:52 So the map is blank, until I start moving around and my @ symbol is duplicating on every tile I step over. Same for everything else thats moving 06:52 Other than that, nothing 06:52 whats your terminal size 06:52 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 06:52 126*34 06:52 !who 06:52 <@ichbinmiah> are you on hdf-us or hdf-eu guest, and what is your nick? 06:52 amateurhour: [hdf-us] dgoddard [gh] Umbire [xnh] post163 [slth] | [hdf-au] MaestroSpook [nh370] Arahael [evil] | [hdf-eu] Singhend [un] mobileuser [sp] elenmirie [evil] 06:53 are you mastrospook on hardfought au? 06:53 I think it's a character encoding thing 06:53 [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Kni Vam Fem Cha), 1449 points, T:1016, killed by a Mordor orc 06:53 there's a setting in putty to change encoding I think? Umbire/mobileuser do you have to use that? 06:53 amateurhour yep thats me 06:54 Yeah, I change it to CP437 06:54 and then I think I have something in the rcfile to go with that? 06:54 I forget the deets 06:54 How do I do that in the windows terminal 06:54 1) download PuTTY 06:55 See everyone earlier was saying not to use PuTTY 06:55 <@ichbinmiah> had I been around, I would have suggested PuTTY too 😄 06:55 I personally recommend iTerm2 ;) 06:56 ah windows terminal 06:56 I wouldn't know 06:56 Well, iTerm2 is macos specific. 06:57 So switching to PuTTY has not improved the problem 06:57 Have you acted on the suggestion re encoding? 06:57 Now everything is either a q, or just something I can't type on a keyboard. And I can't move. I tried re encoding 06:57 <@ichbinmiah> oh that's good! 06:57 <@Earth Traveler> is rcfile designed for a different format than what you're using or something 06:58 <@ichbinmiah> shift O into options 06:58 <@ichbinmiah> you are looking for the symset option 06:58 <@ichbinmiah> try changing it to "plain" 06:58 <@Earth Traveler> why do people use that wacky "q = walls" format anyway :I 06:59 ibmgraphics 06:59 diaji[ 06:59 Hey that worked! 07:00 <@ichbinmiah> sweet. 07:00 <@ichbinmiah> now you can go back into options 07:00 <@ichbinmiah> and change the number_pad option 07:00 <@ichbinmiah> to "on" 07:00 ... if you are Weird 07:00 <@ichbinmiah> that should enable numpad movement 07:00 <@ichbinmiah> 😉 07:00 Okay doing this in the options menu is so much easier than everything else 07:01 Thank you so kindly everyone. Sorry for being a pain 07:01 <@ichbinmiah> not at all, we're happy to help 07:01 Quite so. 07:01 I am now playing nethack, tried it for a couple days a few years back. I'll inform you all when I die for the first time. Thanks again! 07:02 <@ichbinmiah> with luxidream being on stream in a few days, it's likely we're going to have a lot of new people around soon 07:02 Whos that? 07:02 <@Earth Traveler> and maybe 10% of them will stick around 07:02 <@Earth Traveler> the top speedrunner in NH right now 07:02 <@ichbinmiah> guest38: worry not, our friendly neighborhood beholder will autoannounce all of your deaths to us here for our enjoyment 07:03 <@ichbinmiah> https://www.twitch.tv/luxidream 07:03 I realised I should probably change to having a real name 07:04 asshole gargoyle tried to pied piper me 07:04 <@ichbinmiah> luxi is appearing on the ESA marathon and speedrunning NetHack to what will undoubtedly be a terribly confused Gen-Z audience 07:04 <@ichbinmiah> "why are there letters everywhere" 07:04 <@Earth Traveler> nethack needs like, a 90s graphics indie rework 07:05 <@ichbinmiah> hey, if 10% of them stick around, that will be great 07:05 -!- MaestroSpook has joined #hardfought 07:06 -!- Guest38 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:06 I got a real name 07:06 And yeah 10% sounds pretty good for a super niche title 07:06 Its a tough sell 07:07 Okay is there a shortcut to save and exit? 07:08 <@Earth Traveler> ...shift-s? 07:10 Yeah S is for saving 07:10 (as opposed to s which is for searching) 07:10 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:4123 07:12 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5879 points, T:4749, killed by a kobold mummy 07:13 ah shit 07:13 pit fiends make actual pits now 07:13 <@Earth Traveler> in xnh? 07:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 944 points, T:1788, killed by Mr. Lonzac; the shopkeeper 07:17 -!- entuland has joined #hardfought 07:21 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Elf-Nob Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1245 07:24 Yes in xnh 07:24 that's a footrice corpse-killer 07:26 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Nob Elf Mal Cha), 4448 points, T:2073, killed by Mr. Hebiwerie, the shopkeeper 07:27 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2352 points, T:3043, killed by a wolf, while engraving 07:27 <@Earth Traveler> can anyone help me figure out why this acid bite attack in my variant always says it hits even when it doesn't 07:34 wish I could 07:35 perhaps you're still covered in harmless acid :) 07:35 closed as: wontfix - use imagination 07:36 lol 07:36 works as intended 07:36 <@Earth Traveler> lol 07:36 <@Earth Traveler> slex has taught me a valuable lesson after all 07:36 <@Earth Traveler> "Don't put pedophilia in your variant" 07:37 I'd like to believe you didn't need to learn that 07:37 yeah 07:37 :P 07:37 thats not a really hard to meet requirement i think 07:38 <@Earth Traveler> yeah obviously i wasn't gonna do that anyway 07:39 Okay, have just about everything working. But now when I load up the game, a whole like of q's followed by a q covers one line of the screen 07:39 i love how everyone thinks of slex when anyone says "works as intended" 07:39 Followed by a k* 07:40 <@Shadow_Rider> Probably the graphics 07:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Sam Hum Fem Law), 136 points, T:1265, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 07:42 Uh so, how can I try to fix it? 07:43 <@Shadow_Rider> You’ll have to edit the rcfile, did you use Tone’s? 07:43 That I did 07:44 <@Shadow_Rider> Mm do you want ascii or tiles? 07:44 ascii 07:45 <@Shadow_Rider> Looks like tone has IBMgraphics 07:45 <@Earth Traveler> default tiles look like crap :v 07:45 ayyy ring of carrying 07:45 I changed it manually to curses 07:45 !whereis Umbire 07:45 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] Umbire [xnh]: (Bar Orc Mal Cha) T:65552 Gehennom level: 35 07:45 also they're okay for the tiny ass space you have to work with 07:45 Geoduck is a p. meaningful improvement on them 07:45 if I remember right 07:46 Or Dawnhack, may be thinking of that 07:46 i prefer ascii over tiles since there isnt much density and you can view ascii just fine 07:46 NetSysFire: You can watch if you like 07:46 <@Shadow_Rider> Curses is separate from the tileset 07:46 unlike roguelikes like cataclysm dda with tons of foliage 07:46 Umbire: no sorry i have to go get groceries very soon :( 07:46 baw 07:46 is ok 07:46 <@Shadow_Rider> Try removing the line that lists ibmgraphics 07:46 <@Shadow_Rider> If you haven’t already 07:48 Already did that yeah 07:48 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2230 points, T:2817, killed by a wolf 07:49 <@Shadow_Rider> Are you able to link your rcfile? 07:49 Is there an easy way to? I just took tones one and then changed like 1 line from saying IBMgraphics to curses 07:50 It doesn't even seem to be doing it anymore 07:50 <@Shadow_Rider> OPTIONS=windowtype:curses is another line that tone has in a different spot 07:51 I'll worry about it if it comes back. I'm going to bed its super late 07:51 Umbire: lol I didn't even anticipate the effects of a pit fiend on rubber chicken holders but that's great 07:51 <@Shadow_Rider> Curses does not change the tileset 07:51 that's my job 07:51 think up the inane shit no one else will 07:51 :3 07:52 actually usually luxidream points these things out 07:52 -!- MaestroSpook has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:55 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:55 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:55 lol brown pudding tastes like chocolate 07:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu), 2061 points, T:1200, killed by a rothe 07:57 ...wait a tick, this floor has Vlad's Tower 07:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:59 <@Shadow_Rider> MaestroSpook I just tested it out on a game, taking the Tone’s exact rcfile and deleting the IBMgraphics and the one below it fixes the problem entirely 07:59 <@Shadow_Rider> Don’t replace it with curses, as that already exists somewhere else in the file 07:59 there is a titan 07:59 why is there a titan 08:00 in Vlad's tower? Why not? 08:00 wew it just splatted a jelly trying to throw a boulder at me 08:00 heh 08:00 <@Earth Traveler> aosdict specifically put a check in that adds a titan if the user is Umbire 08:00 I had a titan on Medusa level but I stoned it with a footrice 08:01 then I made my lair on the level below (just above castle) 08:01 <@Earth Traveler> i think the only time i've beaten the medusa titan was my monk ascension 08:01 and made a hole under the titan statue, and it fell down to my lair level 08:02 now I have it sitting in the corner in a back room by itself, bit like the stoner at a party 08:02 <@Earth Traveler> where i 1) tamed the nasties it summoned with charm monster, 2) cancelled with a wand, and 3) retreated constantly to finally beat it down 08:02 "they don't know I used to be a real titan once" 08:02 When I'm ready I'll cast "stone-to-flesh" on the titan and revive it 08:02 <@Earth Traveler> why 08:03 then spam charm monster until it is my pet 08:03 titan frend 08:03 <@Shadow_Rider> !tell MaestroSpook I just tested it out on a game, taking the Tone’s exact rcfile and deleting the IBMgraphics and the one below it fixes the problem entirely, don’t replace it with curses because that exists elsewhere in the file 08:03 No worries, @Shadow_Rider, I've got this! 08:03 give it some awesome shit 08:03 name it "K2" 08:03 do titans spawn in gehennom in vanilla, or not because lawful? 08:03 and give it any spare !oGL I find (after I've drunjk enough) 08:04 not that this would affect vlad's 08:04 <@Shadow_Rider> They can spawn 08:04 Vlad's is not in Gehennom 08:04 <@Shadow_Rider> Just angels can’t I think 08:04 <@Shadow_Rider> I’ve been told that titans can spawn in gehennom still 08:04 yeah right, its an angel/demon thing rather than the monster's alignment 08:04 they shouldn't be able to 08:04 hmm 08:04 <@Shadow_Rider> Mm goes against the wiki though 08:05 I mean I've not seen dwarves or the like down there either 08:05 or white unicorns 08:05 Vlads is not in gehennom 08:05 <@Earth Traveler> no, lawfuls don't spawn in gehennom (except rodney's) 08:05 I know 08:05 the entrance is, but the levels are not 08:05 I'm referring to Gehennom itself 08:05 <@Earth Traveler> specifically rodney's zoo 08:05 they might be spawnable via the summon nasties spell 08:06 <@Shadow_Rider> I thought lux told me Titans can still spawn in gehennom 08:06 ah zo 08:06 zoo 08:06 <@Shadow_Rider> Ah maybe 08:06 <@Earth Traveler> i saw a titan in rodney's zoo once 08:06 zoo's have some kind of list of spawnable creatures 08:08 they won't randomly generate in Gehennom, no 08:08 but stuff like zoos and graveyards ignore that 08:08 e.g. horned devils and erinyes 08:09 so it's at least possible ET is right 08:10 anyway, titans make awesome pets 08:10 guaranteed AoLS get 08:10 give them some reflection, unihorn, nice weapon... 08:10 self healing... 08:11 up to lv24 by themselves 08:11 <@Earth Traveler> oh that reminds me of something i was thinking of adding to my variant 08:11 there's the water walking boots 08:11 <@Earth Traveler> the amulet of 1ife saving 08:11 named titans, ET? o: 08:11 aw 08:11 <@Earth Traveler> generates cursed 90% 08:11 <@Earth Traveler> and "saves" you when you die 08:11 <@Earth Traveler> and then you noticed it's spelled wrong, and immediately die again from laughter 08:12 MR70 so you have to spam charm monster or harp or scrolls of taming 08:12 <@Earth Traveler> unless you have an INT of 5 or less, then you don't notice the misspelling 08:12 dunce cap strats? 🤔 08:12 <@Earth Traveler> that fixes your INT at 6 08:13 goddamnit! 08:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:1342 08:13 <@Shadow_Rider> Mind flayer strategies? 08:13 there's the CPM 08:13 And on to Vlad's floor 08:14 now mind flayers make even better pets 08:14 but most peope don't fancy getting close enough to spam charm at them 08:15 Alright asshole, come and get me 08:16 he's a rabbit 08:16 <@Shadow_Rider> Didn’t there used to be a thing where pets with summon nasties would spawn hostile monsters everywhere 08:16 runs away 08:17 <@luxidream> Reviser seed? 08:17 Tooled horn didn't work 08:18 Also yeah that's the gag Luxi 08:18 <@Earth Traveler> yeah that was the inspiration :p 08:18 also hi luxi 08:20 <@luxidream> backscroll: Titans exist in gehennom 08:20 how so, am curious 08:20 Rodney's zoo or something else 08:21 <@Umby> so fucking cool~ 08:21 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/867743123803471872/unknown.png 08:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:66544 08:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:66546 08:23 now did I bring any candles with me... 08:23 <@Earth Traveler> "Our battle will be legendary!" five seconds later 08:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 879 points, T:2033, killed by a hobbit 08:23 ah bother 08:24 I forgot to immediately swap to Stormy so he nicked a level off me 08:24 blessed potion of full healing 08:24 <@Shadow_Rider> I forgot to get Excalibur and he nicked all my levels off me 08:25 <@Shadow_Rider> Actually I didn’t forget at all :/ 08:25 <@Shadow_Rider> Nethack is just a mean game sometimes 08:26 I got it back by killing him lol 08:26 it was just the one level anyway 08:26 <@luxidream> titan doesn't have nohell tag 08:26 <@luxidream> and isn't specifically excluded anywhere 08:27 ah, interesting 08:27 <@luxidream> so I think this is another case of the wiki lying 08:27 good thing we can make it un-lie 08:27 <@Shadow_Rider> Is there a no lawful tag or is it just all lawfuls are excluded? 08:27 <@Shadow_Rider> Except Titans 08:29 Gehennom is chaotic biased iirc 08:29 in addition to the NO_HELL stuff 08:29 titans are valid poly forms too so you could see one in gehennom that way 08:29 whee, there's the WoW like amateurhour said 08:30 or just what lux said 08:30 <@luxidream> wait, the wiki also says that lawfuls are completely excluded from gehennom 08:30 I need very few things at this point so in the oilbag it goes 08:30 <@luxidream> let me see if I can find that 08:30 yeah, let us know what you find and and I can help fix it accordingly 08:31 <@Earth Traveler> if titans could spawn it seems weird i haven't seen one down there outside the zoo on any of my trips 08:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:31 <@Shadow_Rider> Yes I that was the page I was looking at 08:32 baw, one-sit poof from the throne 08:32 ...seriously, the fuck do I need/want at this point 08:33 just do it 08:33 like outside of a marker 08:33 <@luxidream> if (Inhell) return (boolean) (mons[mndx].maligntyp > A_NEUTRAL); 08:33 <@Earth Traveler> obviously a blessed touchstone so you can try to max out your score with gems 08:33 <@luxidream> ok I found it never mind 08:33 <@Earth Traveler> and then drink a cursed !oGL on DL1 and lose 95% of them 08:33 heh 08:34 that has been done ^^ 08:34 Coolio 08:34 Though for uh, future's sake 08:34 What's the line 08:34 check your "ascension kit" 08:35 I have most of what I think would qualify for that grassy 08:35 just keep it around as a wish until you know what you need or want 08:36 source of flight/levi for Air, oilskin + magical breathing for water if need be 08:36 amateurhour: That's the default, I'm just thinking out loud rn 08:36 way to detect portals 08:36 <@Shadow_Rider> If you don’t need anything then don’t use it 08:36 Just ID'd conflict from one of Vlad's many chests 08:36 <@Shadow_Rider> You’ll probably needsomething later 08:36 I know, but thinking out loud helps me be less dum 08:36 I never use conflict when ascending 08:36 3 scrolls of gold detection to curse sometime later 08:37 often use charm though 08:37 plenty of digging wands 08:37 <@Shadow_Rider> Confused is better 08:37 <@Shadow_Rider> If you have spell 08:37 no need for cursed 08:37 actually lemme go back and read one of those books I found 08:37 <@Shadow_Rider> Lol it takes 20000 turns 08:37 you need to leave one spell forgotten 08:38 <@Shadow_Rider> Unless it’s different in xnh 08:38 donezo 08:38 Also yeah, but by the time I need to confusion it'll be ready 08:38 cursed scrolls of confusion, booze (not blessed) 08:38 I know the sources, I just prefer the spell here 08:38 eggs and tripe if you are desperate 08:38 <@luxidream> umbire if you want to cite it 08:38 <@luxidream> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/b5dd0f89869f237c5ded275c74c5cc664c92caff/src/makemon.c 08:38 <@luxidream> line 1497 08:38 Thank 08:39 <@Shadow_Rider> Lux they patched market bug 08:39 <@Shadow_Rider> Marker 08:39 <@luxidream> i saw 08:39 luxidream you can link to a particular line 08:39 Plenty of death wands for Rodney/HPoM 08:39 hmmmmmmmmm 08:39 dot dot dot 08:39 <@luxidream> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/b5dd0f89869f237c5ded275c74c5cc664c92caff/src/makemon.c#L1497 08:39 <@luxidream> there 08:39 ah I guess you already knew then 08:40 was just mentioning in case you didn't know it was a thing 08:40 <@luxidream> lawfuls not generating in gehennom? 08:40 linking to a specific line 08:40 <@luxidream> oh ok 08:46 <@luxidream> anyway im going to go back to sleep before I say something else stupid 08:46 like what 08:50 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 08:53 <@nabru> !time 08:53 @nabru: Thu Jul 22 08:53:02 2021 EDT 08:57 Hi Nabru 08:57 hi 08:57 Hello nabru, Welcome to #hardfought 08:57 !coffee 08:57 * Beholder tosses nabru a tumbler of blended scotch, acquired by TheresaMayBot at 77 degrees Celsius. 08:58 Where in the source do they handle Gehennom level order 08:58 since I'm diving for that purpose 08:59 -!- Gaelan_ has joined #hardfought 08:59 didn't seem to be in dungeon.c at a casual glance, may come back to that 09:00 dat/dungeon.def or whatever 09:00 -!- Gaelan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:00 * NetSysFire gives Umbire an amulet of magical breathing for sourcediving 09:00 dungeon.lua in 3.7 09:00 Right 09:02 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.6_Released/dat/dungeon.def 09:02 Guessing this about lines up with what the wiki article gives in a manner I'm not immediately grokking? 09:03 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 09:03 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.6_Released/dat/dungeon.def#L51 09:03 which of those do you want to know about? 09:04 Trying to parse the coordinates and their meaning 09:05 more than anything 09:05 well take juiblex then 09:05 level levelname levelsymbol(can't remember what this is for) @ (4,4) 09:05 start level +4 +rn2(4) 09:06 the (4,4) means it can be anywhere from the 4th floor of gehennom to the 4+4th level 09:06 Alright, go on 09:06 oh, guess it's 4+3th then, thanks aosdict 09:06 no you're right 09:06 not start level +4 it's start level +4 -1 09:07 because the first level of the branch counts 09:07 that's pretty much it Umbire, it just gives a range of floors 09:07 Yeah but I didn't know how to read that range 09:07 Thank you 09:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:09 So that range then is from 3rd floor of Gehennom to 8th 09:09 ? 09:10 Or, hm 09:11 from the 4th to the 7th 09:11 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:11 <@Earth Traveler> hey can someone please tell me why in my custom mine's end, a room that's supposed to be filled with dwarfs and dwarf lords instead has a bunch of random monsters? :u 09:12 Highest the castle can be is 26, so 29-34 09:12 Wait, no, brain cooking 09:13 Earth Traveler: this is the map we were talking about the other night? 09:14 <@Earth Traveler> i think i mentioned this problem then 09:14 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 09:14 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (copper.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:14 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 09:14 it seemed to work fine for me when I was messing around with it, looked like this https://0x0.st/-O0a.png 09:14 I don't suppose you blessed genocided mind flayers 09:14 <@Earth Traveler> huh 09:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:15 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:15 -!- wishstudio8 has joined #hardfought 09:15 can you upload the current version to pastebin or something again? 09:15 And right as I grok it my net hiccups slightly and HexChat snaps its own neck 09:15 great 09:15 or put it on github or something 09:15 but yeah I have it figured now 09:16 -!- mekkis_ has joined #hardfought 09:16 github, the sustainable solution 09:16 <@Earth Traveler> https://pastebin.com/a781rVyJ 09:16 <@Earth Traveler> i'll put it up when i actually have it somewhere near completion 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 2195 points, T:3404, killed by a bolt of lightning 09:17 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:17 stealing it and giving it to amy to add to slex 09:17 <@Earth Traveler> :/ 09:17 nah im kidding if u sent amy a lua level file shed probably just start bitching about how it isnt des format 09:18 <@luxidream> demo just make notslex 09:18 no 09:18 i dont have the diskspace for that game 09:18 its so messy 09:18 <@Earth Traveler> first edit for any slex fork: take out the little kids 09:18 -!- tromix has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:18 -!- Merlek has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:18 -!- mekkis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:18 -!- wishstudio has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:18 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 09:18 -!- wishstudio8 is now known as wishstudio 09:18 <@luxidream> just remove everything offensive and suddenly that problem disappears 09:19 thats just slashthem 09:19 -!- froggles has joined #hardfought 09:19 noone's got the time to find them all and remove them 09:19 -!- Merlek has joined #hardfought 09:20 id take out the kid diddling, weird fetish shit, and probably some other excessively graphic shit but double down on making sure its scummy as all hell 09:21 and while you're at it, purge the repo of all the historically committed binaries :P 09:21 I won't touch slex with a 10-foot pole 09:21 -!- mekkis_ is now known as mekkis 09:21 very understandable 09:22 Earth Traveler: the room is full of dwarves for me 09:22 statue surfer did u geno h? 09:22 like i doubt it but that would cause that behavior 09:22 here's how it looks https://0x0.st/-VUT.png 09:22 <@Earth Traveler> no 09:23 statue surfer do you know khor's mines end? 09:23 idk why there are gnomes inside the wall though 09:23 mining accident obvs 09:23 they r hungry for wall 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 31 points, T:58, killed by a grid bug, while dressing up 09:25 also re: notSLEX there is a lot you'd have to deal with 09:26 so def. a significant time and space investment 09:27 How many conducts would you need to do in order to make a NetHack ascension as difficult as beating Rogue 09:27 <@Earth Traveler> https://flic.kr/p/2mcFQ2S 09:27 <@Earth Traveler> meanwhile 09:27 has anyone here beaten rogue? I haven't so wouldn't know 09:27 I haven't. I've tried to play a little. It's meant to be quite luck based 09:28 What kinda Mines End is this meant to be o: 09:28 (also I forget what this is a variant of) 09:28 <@Earth Traveler> it also replaced most of the hallway dwarves with random monsters too 09:28 <@Earth Traveler> i call it the Gnome King's Dungeon 09:30 dare u to call ur variant nethack3.8 09:30 <@Earth Traveler> well i won't so 09:30 earth traveler did you change anything in the actual code thus far or have you just made this level and nothing else? 09:31 <@Earth Traveler> you know, it's gonna be super awkward when an offical Nethack 4 comes out 09:31 <@Earth Traveler> i've changed stuff in the code yeah 09:31 do a Microsoft and call it NetHack 10 09:31 so maybe you have changed something that made the lua monster generation not work as expected? 09:32 because with just plain 3.7 and the map it works fine for me 09:32 <@Earth Traveler> man i don't know what 09:32 nethack10 09:32 I imagine the devteam would jump straight to nethack 5.0.0 like they avoided 3.5.0 09:33 the question is whether they ever do something big enough to warrant a major version bump, like a gehennom overhaul 09:33 I hope they do 09:34 <@Earth Traveler> but what else would you call the next major update after 3.9.9 09:34 I have the Gehennom stuff down, just wondering how to comment in a way that makes it understandable to other people checking the reference 09:34 <@Earth Traveler> just keep tacking 9s at the end? 09:34 version numbers do not work that way. 3.10.0 is fine 09:34 3.10.0, lol 09:34 <@Earth Traveler> oh right 09:34 there has already been a 3.0.10 09:34 I've never even reached Gehennom :'( slow down with the updates 09:34 I remember a lot of confused minecraft players around the time 1.9 and 1.10 were coming out 09:35 3.sike 09:36 the real version number cap is 2147483647 09:36 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/867762124080414760/3lttpqub1x751.png 09:36 big problems if devteam reaches version 3.7.2147483648 09:37 Is that Deus Ex or System Shock? 09:37 deus ex 09:37 <@ichbinmiah> hopping on and nethacking for a bit: https://www.twitch.tv/ichbinmiah 09:37 it's outside the statue of liberty iirc 09:37 actually maybe that's wrong 09:38 <@Earth Traveler> huh? 09:38 the picture luxidream posted is from deus ex 09:39 idk why a variant hasn't taken inspiration from that description yet 09:39 NetHack54 09:39 <@luxidream> I wonder why you only work up to version 3.2.3 09:39 <@luxidream> when going back in time 09:40 it has numerological significance 09:40 Is a ring of searching going to be of any use? 09:41 I dunno if it's worth the hunger 09:41 devteam was taken over by kabbalists sometime around v25.0.0 09:42 <@luxidream> well since deus ex takes place in 2052, we're going to go through a lot of versions very quickly 09:42 luxidream do you mean in the git repo? I think they moved to some form of version control in like 2002 09:42 and then to git in 2015 or so? can't remember 09:42 amateurhour: from the deus ex description of the game 09:42 oh 09:42 @luxidream yes that will happen in the version wars of 2033, with as many as thirty new versions published per day 09:42 it says at some point you have to go play through the entire history of nethack up to version 3.2.3 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 3486 points, T:3195, killed by a water demon 09:43 you should read it, it's funny 09:43 I'd read it before so didn't bother reading it again haha 09:43 my bad my bad 09:44 actually i guess it says "all of history" not just "all historical nethack versions" 09:44 so maybe it's that you need to survive from the dawn of humankind up until the release of nethack 3.2.3 09:45 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:45 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnomes_of_Z%C3%BCrich TIL 09:45 or the dawn of history, so prehistory doesn't count 09:45 or the beginning of the universe, who knows 09:45 the zurich thing doesn't seem to offend bhaak so I assume it's fine 09:45 that's a very weird wikipedia article Umbire 09:46 It's also relevant 09:47 i like its description of the "audacity" of the banker who named his business after the phrase 09:47 <@Earth Traveler> writes a Mine's End variant called "Bank of Zurich" 09:47 a real maverick 09:47 Check line 69 (lol) of 3.6.6's dungeon.def 09:48 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5555 09:48 -!- Guest5555 has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:48 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:56 Oh, Earth Traveler 09:56 You definitely saw a titan in Rodney's zoo, right? 09:57 <@Earth Traveler> yeah 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Robber, on T:19780 09:57 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:01 Just needed the refresher 10:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:27127 10:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:45484 10:12 I've been playing Healer the last couple of days. I've never gotten very far (only Minetown really) and this run is looking pretty decent. I got 9 protection points, I'm level 5, have a coaligned altar, magic marker, scroll of identify. I've just identified a scroll of genocide. What would you suggest I do with it for someone who's not very experienced. I know liches and the like are generally genocided but the chances I'm gonna get that far are 10:12 low. Should I maybe genocide ants? or reverse genocide something like wraiths? 10:12 Got a sack? 10:12 yeah. Not a BoH but an uncursed bag 10:13 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:13 sack* 10:13 I can bless and curse the scroll if needed 10:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:45490 10:14 Keep it in the sack. When you think you're going to die to something, genocide that thing? 10:14 Seems reasonable enough 10:16 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:17 popular choices of genocides are L, R and h 10:18 recently saw someone emergency-genocide T 10:18 The thing is I've never seen any of those monsters before (saw a mind flayer many years ago) 10:18 So I'll most likely genocide something I won't reach anyway 10:18 I think maybe keeping it for a while until needed might be a good idea 10:19 NH's astonishingly bad about consumables but this is one case where it does make sense 10:19 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:17380, rt[4:41:53] 10:21 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Big Room, on T:17645, rt[4:43:40] 10:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Zo-Kalar, on T:45522 10:22 Also be sure it'd not cursed 10:22 it's* 10:22 Haha it's not. That would be a fun way to go 10:22 Not even that, cursed geno has its own set of uses 10:23 Yeah it summons stuff I think 10:23 Mhm 10:23 Can be wraith for leveling, dragons for scales 10:24 arch-lichen for providing innocent amusement to spectators 10:24 purple worms for (conflict/taming) + eating stuff 10:24 or nymphs if you are a masochist 10:24 I mean that 10:24 Do nymphs give teleportisis? 10:24 is an unironic good idea for like 10:25 Convicts 10:25 and yes 10:25 but not worth revgenoing for it 10:25 not that hard to find them 10:25 I'm pretty sure I've had that before but it's a bit of a pain without control 10:25 or like leprechauns or tengu 10:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:45569 10:28 If I find enchant weapon, I might consider reverse genociding long worms cause I've always wanted to try out a crysknife 10:32 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Town, on T:18166, rt[4:54:16] 10:32 personally I wouldn't use a scroll of genocide on that, long worms aren't that uncommon 10:32 Fair enough, that's good to know 10:32 you can even cut them in parts and such if you really wanna farm teeth 10:33 using a bladed weapon 10:33 anyway gehennom edits done, more to come, don't be afraid to fix any of my fuck ups 10:33 slep 10:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:45641 10:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:4567 10:36 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 10:36 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 10:37 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 10:38 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:9493 10:39 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:18961, rt[5:03:54] 10:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha), 9910494 points, T:45768, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/KrO2/dnethack/dumplog/1626640505.dnh.txt 10:49 grats 10:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6119 10:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Cloudmillion's ghost, the former Adept, on T:6154 10:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:6206 10:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an arrow on an altar, on T:6210 10:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:54 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2367 11:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:09 <@nabru> !ping 11:09 @nabru: Pong! 11:13 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 11:14 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 30474 points, T:7772, rt[1:30:03], wc[11:35:29], quit 11:14 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Client Quit] 11:15 <@nabru> ! lastgame tommo 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:23502 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23502 11:15 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tommo/setseed/dumplog/1626925117.seed.html 11:18 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed holy historic very thoroughly dragonhide diluted +5 water walking boots of speed named high velocity floaty floppies", on T:51215 11:21 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 737 points, T:1339, [0:06:56], killed by a magic missile 11:23 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:51328 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 green dragon scale mail", on T:7023 11:34 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:1583, rt[0:12:40] 11:38 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2274, rt[0:16:46] 11:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 755 points, T:1405, killed by a dwarf 11:41 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 11:42 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 11:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:7369 11:45 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:45 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 11:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 196 points, T:404, killed by a gnome 11:52 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4593, rt[0:30:04] 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:319 11:58 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:02 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 12:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3768 12:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4008 12:17 My cat is next to a blue jelly and a floating eye and it's taking an age to get it out 12:17 [hdf-au] [nh13d] wbn (Tou Mal), 50 points, T:22, hobgoblin 12:17 make that *two* jellies 12:18 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "very blessed historic partly eaten unlit thoroughly +5 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance and reflection named not available in stores", on T:51803 12:25 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:7723, rt[1:03:03] 12:28 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "historic very holy extinguished thoroughly dragonhide fixed holy +5 gauntlets of dexterity and power named smash mitts, now with improved accuracy", on T:51808 12:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2400 12:31 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "thoroughly blessed fixed greased rustproof partly eaten very dragonhide +5 t-shirt of drain resistance named lifestealerbane", on T:51814 12:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2651 12:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 75570 points, T:11061, quit 12:42 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 7017 points, T:1878, killed by a contaminated potion 12:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1428 points, T:2782, killed by a watch captain 12:47 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Hea Syl Fem Neu), 2574 points, T:362, killed by a dwarf 12:47 <@post163> My dnethack game just crashed - I was thrown off my pony after I kicked it trying to make it gallop. 12:47 -!- Guest32 has joined #hardfought 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:46725 12:48 wow 12:48 k2 ^ 12:48 k2 is on vacation 12:49 qt beat me to it 12:49 but ye 12:49 i would !tell him maybe 12:49 you could try to get hold of Tangles if its anything urgent 12:49 oh 12:49 post, you can probably autorecover 12:50 <@post163> I can recover the game, but this is not the first time it has happened. 12:50 knight on a pony? 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:46742 12:51 lmfao it crashes consistently 12:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 2687 points, T:1582, killed by an orc 12:51 LOL 12:51 imagine using a role-standard feature causing consistent crash 12:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Inc Fem Law), 447 points, T:316, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:46755 12:53 post163, i reported it to the devs 12:53 aren't you the-- oh wait that's ndnh 12:55 <@post163> thanks 12:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 2018 points, T:1391, killed by a dwarf zombie 12:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:00 stepped on an anti-magic trap an copped a massive 172 HP damage HP:152(324) 13:00 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "3 blessed charging", on T:9601, rt[1:38:59] 13:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 776 points, T:620, killed by a giant bat 13:02 Grassy: I think there is an open issue about that 13:03 yeah this one https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/issues/533 13:03 I just got done again similar HP loss 13:03 it's crazy that it's not capped in some way, someone with MR and higher PW than HP can go from full health to dead instantly 13:03 yeah 13:04 I make a point of trying to boost my wiz HP to be close to my Pw 13:04 but yeah 13:05 average unboosted wiz HP is prob around 1/2 Pw 13:07 -!- Guest32 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non), 194 points, T:628, killed by a goblin 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 174940 points, T:27414, killed by a troll 13:15 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 286 points, T:511, killed by a gnome lord 13:17 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:11214, rt[1:55:55] 13:17 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:11214, rt[1:55:57] 13:19 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Freya (Acu Orc Fem Law), 324 points, T:973, killed by an acid blob 13:19 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "ring of teleport control", on T:11229, rt[1:57:12] 13:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Freya (Acu Orc Fem Law), 415 points, T:538, killed by an acid blob 13:22 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 142048 points, T:11451, [2:00:47], quit 13:23 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:26 <@Shadow_Rider> !lastgame Tommo 13:26 @Shadow_Rider: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tommo/setseed/dumplog/1626967316.seed.html 13:27 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 232 points, T:418, killed by a newt 13:31 <@SpicyCebolla> okay now a newt death is just totally off-brand 13:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non), 1010 points, T:1603, killed by a fox 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:24991 13:41 it's the newtest fad 13:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 2004 points, T:1163, quit 13:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:49 newts can be vicious, don't you know? 13:49 they come at night and nibble your toes 13:52 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:59 some people like toe-nibbling 14:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3621 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3712 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1806 points, T:3717, killed by a jackal 14:07 Wagner liked it enough to write some operas about it. nibbling a toe ring or something 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh343] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law), 2665 points, T:2916, killed by a snake 14:10 i thought that was a race course 14:10 nabru: kittens are worse though 14:18 kittens will snuggle you to death 14:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:20 nethack player getting killed by a kitten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uup_FxA1Pf0 14:21 <@nabru> 😄 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 588 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27478 14:30 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:30 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:47 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:54 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:29397 15:09 -!- Guest34 has joined #hardfought 15:10 -!- Guest34 has quit [Client Quit] 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Burglar, on T:29570 15:13 i finally got accepted by atties cats so i just try to hang out and vibe with them 15:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 12 points, T:152, killed by a jackal 15:17 atties cats? 15:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Law), 220 points, T:332, killed by a grid bug 15:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 67 points, T:141, killed by a grid bug 15:19 the cats who belong to attie 15:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 71 points, T:57, killed by a sewer rat 15:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 491 points, T:622, dragged downstairs by an iron ball 15:24 cats of attie's household. the cats specifically correlated to that person. attie's cats. 15:25 *that* Kuzco 15:25 incase there is still any doubt, Umbire 15:25 there is an entity, name of attie 15:25 this entity is closely related in kind with some other entities 15:25 these are feline entities 15:26 those feline entities have accepted the entity known to us as 'stenno' 15:26 iunno why I thought it was some kinda job-related talk at first 15:26 * Umbire shrugs 15:26 accepted means that they are comfortable around the 'stenno' and do not hide or engage for potential attack 15:27 i wished for an attie cat once but there were already too many in the game so it slipped between my ingers 15:27 hehe 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1012 15:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 498 points, T:861, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 15:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 160 points, T:307, killed by a dwarf 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:55769 15:39 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2882 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1291 points, T:1597, killed by a rothe 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:30844 15:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:50 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:53068 15:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Bar Gia Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elberethestically", on T:4615 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 3161 points, T:5223, poisoned by a gray fungus 15:59 a butthole surfer afficionado 15:59 * stenno approves 15:59 I don't think gray fungus is particularly desirable to that end 15:59 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4HQapFbo4Q 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 10355 points, T:7644, killed by a dwarf lady 16:06 iirc there's a nethack-themed cover of Pepper someone made 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:55935 16:06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlPgy0ysoJk 16:11 ha! that's great. love that tune 16:13 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:14 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 24 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:53351 16:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:16 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2438, rt[0:04:27] 16:17 only ever listened to hairway to steven 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4627 16:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4683 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 daggers on an altar, on T:4695 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 531 points, T:2060, killed by a giant bat 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 513 points, T:837, killed by a piranha 16:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3626 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32247 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:32248 16:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 11859 points, T:3676, killed by an arrow 16:24 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Law), 7823 points, T:5989, [0:12:40], killed by a bolt of cold 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:6842 16:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 199 points, T:454, killed by a fox 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law), 13139 points, T:6918, killed by a soldier 16:35 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 79 points, T:518, killed by a kobold 16:41 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1479, rt[0:03:36] 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1902 16:48 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3285, rt[0:10:01] 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:33252 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33253 16:49 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:3702, rt[0:11:13] 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Filcher, on T:33470 16:56 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3176 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:33651 17:00 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 17:04 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:7440, rt[0:26:39] 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant mimic, on T:4146 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2474 points, T:4158, killed by a red dragon 17:09 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:8364, rt[0:31:14] 17:10 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 holy charging", on T:8382, rt[0:32:29] 17:10 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 cursed genocide", on T:8383, rt[0:32:41] 17:11 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:8402, rt[0:33:07] 17:14 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:8974, rt[0:36:13] 17:14 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:9075, rt[0:36:38] 17:15 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:9446, rt[0:37:31] 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6043 points, T:6820, killed by a chameleon imitating a purple worm 17:18 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:9682, rt[0:40:13] 17:18 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class e, on T:9683, rt[0:40:18] 17:19 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:10106, rt[0:42:52] 17:20 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:10107, rt[0:42:53] 17:21 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 170379 points, T:10204, [0:43:34], killed by a shade, while paralyzed 17:21 nice, rider's on track to finish around 1:12:ish 17:21 heck! 17:21 <@Shadow_Rider> pffft 17:21 get thefuck off discord and ascend 17:22 no chatting 17:22 free action bad btw 17:22 >:( 17:22 <@Shadow_Rider> i didnt bugle first 17:22 oh he died 17:22 rip 17:22 oh, i have certain boring deaths filtered lol 17:22 -!- Guest24 has joined #hardfought 17:22 good pace tho 17:22 36.behold_less │23:21:39 +Beholder | [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 170379 points, T:10204, [0:43:34], killed by a shade, while paralyzed 17:22 That doesn't seem particularly useful 17:23 Umbire: got stand in the corner 17:23 go* 17:23 Why? 17:23 <@Shadow_Rider> no extra wishes so im happy with that 17:23 I wasn't referring to your output. 17:23 <@nabru> !lastgame shadowrider38 17:23 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/setseed/dumplog/1626986283.seed.html 17:23 Umbire: waht doesnt seem particularly useful 17:24 Death filtering? 17:24 then i stand by my comment 17:24 Outside of like, one particular case. 17:24 go stand in the corner 17:24 if you had just bugled, you'd still have your noodle 17:24 Anyway. 17:24 and consider not judging what is useful for others based on your own standards 17:24 burma shave 17:25 <@Shadow_Rider> i skipped soko because it was on big room and lucked into reflection 17:25 what means burma shave 17:25 Only +1 GDSM? 17:25 Guessing you revgeno'd or something? 17:25 <@Shadow_Rider> yep 17:25 Ew, speedrun big room. 17:25 if you throw kabooms, they'll clear the whole room 17:25 burma splice! 17:25 -!- Usul has joined #hardfought 17:25 i remain confused 17:26 <@Shadow_Rider> i'm going to start skipping soko when i go for pr at some point 17:26 also i should sleep 17:26 same S_R 17:26 i haven't played nethack in weeks tho, feels like D: 17:26 <@Shadow_Rider> yes very true 17:26 how will i ever get sub-90 at this rate 17:27 Well good luck when you do SR 17:27 <@Shadow_Rider> become a full time nethacker 17:27 -!- Usul has quit [Client Quit] 17:27 <@Shadow_Rider> thanks umbire 17:27 -- | #hardfought: You're not a channel operator 17:27 god damn it 17:27 K2: give me ops 17:27 <@Shadow_Rider> as if I need more good luck as it is 17:27 I mean after that last run you probably could use some 17:27 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14719 17:27 good night folks 17:28 -!- Guest24 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:28 sleep well! 17:28 <@nabru> 'night 17:30 <@Shadow_Rider> Umbire: trust me I have had more than my fair share of good luck 17:31 Well more never hurt 17:31 At least until it overflows 17:31 <@Shadow_Rider> Runs like this make me happy because I feel like I still have some skill 17:31 <@Shadow_Rider> Even tho I died 17:31 das good 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 63 points, T:473, killed by touching Mjollnir 17:41 <@luxidream> looks like sub 1:10 pace 17:41 <@luxidream> also rip 17:42 1:10 like my markers 17:42 <@luxidream> lol 17:42 <@nabru> !lastgame jmcunx 17:42 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jmcunx/nethack/dumplog/1626989282.nh.html 17:42 <@luxidream> actually gehennom at 37 minutes is still sub hour pace 17:43 wr pace is quest at 10 minutes just saying 17:43 <@luxidream> to do quest at 10 minutes you need wow, and you need shop mimics to get the first few levels, and you need good luck on wraiths 17:44 <@luxidream> so really hard 17:44 <@Shadow_Rider> Skipping soko is good 17:44 <@Shadow_Rider> Although I was semi forced to 17:44 <@luxidream> I should start skipping soko agian 17:44 <@luxidream> again* 17:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 234 points, T:204, killed by a jackal 17:45 <@Shadow_Rider> I was also going to lose time somewhere with 1:0 WoW and no marker charges 17:45 <@Shadow_Rider> Pick either marker or opp alignment 17:45 <@luxidream> I would pick marker to avoid losing to wizard 17:46 <@Shadow_Rider> How much time do you think opposite alignment saves? 17:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu), 101 points, T:268, killed by a jackal 17:47 <@luxidream> less than a minute probably 17:47 <@luxidream> I did the math on lawful vs chaotic in 3.7, lawful only has to climb on average ~2 extra floors 17:48 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh what 17:48 <@luxidream> it's just that you might as well get it because it can be useful on astral and you want to wrest before asc run anyway 17:48 <@Shadow_Rider> Yeah true 17:48 <@Shadow_Rider> I’ll just luck into lawful 17:48 <@luxidream> also that's on average, the top end of lawful hax is probably a lot worse than chaotic 17:49 <@luxidream> I didn't check the spread :P 17:49 <@Shadow_Rider> Doesn’t count same floor either does it? 17:49 <@luxidream> it does 17:49 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh ok 17:49 <@Shadow_Rider> That’s not much at all tbh 17:49 <@luxidream> I simulated "number of times you have to go upstairs" 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3783 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2022 points, T:3800, killed by a dog 17:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3877 17:58 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Hlf Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5126 18:05 -!- ShartyWaffles has joined #hardfought 18:07 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 18:09 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10 -!- ShartyWaffles has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:11 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Ran Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 61 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39273 18:13 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 567 points, T:1030, [0:05:41], killed by a dog 18:13 This is my first time in Sokoban and god this last puzzle is tough 18:14 !whereis froggles 18:14 NetSysFire: froggles is not playing. 18:14 if its vanilla theres guides on the wiki 18:17 I may have to resort to that soon 18:17 And I bet after all this mental strain, there'll be a BoH at the end when I already have one 18:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1381, rt[0:07:27] 18:21 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 18:22 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:1934, rt[0:09:31] 18:23 Haha that was funny. I think I came to a solution and then another boulder appeared to make it seem impossible 18:25 -!- Saxtheow1 has joined #hardfought 18:27 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1532 points, T:2992, [0:14:38], killed by a soldier ant 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3143 18:33 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:1399, rt[0:05:27] 18:34 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1618, rt[0:06:45] 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3517 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3593 18:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3783 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3872 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3872 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 darts on an altar, on T:3876 18:40 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:40 -!- Saxtheow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:49 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4173, rt[0:21:29] 18:51 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1236 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:4748 18:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5173, rt[0:28:26] 19:00 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10420 points, T:5492, [0:32:24], killed by Mr. Monbazillac; the shopkeeper 19:00 <@luxidream> !lastgame tommo 19:00 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tommo/setseed/dumplog/1626992879.seed.html 19:00 i wanted his cloak 19:00 >:[ 19:01 <@luxidream> what cloak did he have 19:01 idk i forget 19:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 19:01 maybe actually that was a different game 19:01 since i stole all the good stuff on my way down 19:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1392 points, T:1801, killed by a rothe 19:08 What did I say... Took me about an hour to get through this Sokoban for the first time and all I got was this lousy Bag of Holding - I already had one 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:807 19:11 At least my cat ate a doppelganger corpse and became a clay golem. So it wasn't the biggest waste of time 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 230 points, T:1633, killed by a gas spore's explosion 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 10548 points, T:5924, killed by a balrog 19:15 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3125, rt[0:11:22] 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2853 19:19 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3779 points, T:3534, [0:15:20], quit 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3590 19:25 <@Shadow_Rider> bruh another deserted izchak 19:25 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:25 Kill....... me...... 19:26 Best run I've ever been on and I fatfinger and hit a floating eye 19:26 amazing 19:26 dywypi 19:26 <@Shadow_Rider> tough but it happens 19:27 <@Shadow_Rider> its the deaths that make you better 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3923 19:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:32 I'll start again and see how it goes. Do you know if you can make the TTY interface's messages at the top bigger? It's annoying to have to press space all the time 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:5080 19:35 <@Shadow_Rider> try using curses as opposed to tty 19:35 You probably want curses 19:35 <@Shadow_Rider> i don't know if there is a way to make tty have more message space 19:36 Yeah, I'll stick with curses 19:37 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1029 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:7080 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:8020 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7621 19:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Godhands", on T:5504 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11356 19:56 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:54058 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2227 19:59 -!- ShartyWaffles has joined #hardfought 19:59 -!- ShartyWaffles has quit [Client Quit] 19:59 -!- ShartyWaffles has joined #hardfought 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2410 20:00 Just found +5 iron skull cap on Dlvl 2 20:00 0.0 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:2531 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3926 points, T:2541, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:01 Cool 20:01 don't die 20:03 -!- tacco has quit [] 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2315 points, T:2704, killed by an ochre jelly 20:08 -!- froggles has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9435 20:20 -!- ShartyWaffles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21 -!- ShartyWaffles has joined #hardfought 20:28 @Shadow_Rider devteam is aware of what caused the deserted izchaks 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh343] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4225 20:38 <@Shadow_Rider> Ooh cool are you able to share 20:40 I didn't look into it myself but they said commit 4050ec16700b was at fault 20:41 which had to do with special levels and shops, so that makes sense 20:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non), 29807 points, T:6147, killed by a yuki-onna 20:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3187 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:9663 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:15732 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiterer, on T:16259 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] DobbyK (Val Dwa Fem Law), 965 points, T:2744, killed by a giant ant 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:18740 21:15 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1744 points, T:2225, quit 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh13d] DobbyK (Arc Mal), 50 points, T:78, homunculus 21:25 -!- entuland has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:20785 21:27 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a crossbow bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:1860 21:28 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:29 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had an arrows bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2297 21:34 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3566 points, T:2440, killed by a dwarvish lord 22:05 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 22:05 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 22:14 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 22:15 Finding myself unable to win a simple game of Nethack I wondered what was wrong...until I realized that my mistake is constantly pressing E for evilhack... 22:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1254 22:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non), 1681 points, T:1309, killed by a shocking sphere 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3010 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11639 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3142 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3093 22:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non), 217 points, T:451, killed by a shuriken 22:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Mal Non) averted death, on T:13410 22:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Mal Non), 87998 points, T:13417, killed by Cerberus 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:12086 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3451 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3451 22:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Swn Fem Non), 294 points, T:859, killed by an electric shock 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an elven dagger named Sting on an altar, on T:3456 22:36 <@Shadow_Rider> AntiVirus: “a simple game of nethack” 22:37 ;) 22:37 It is remarkably simpler when you don't have Fire Elementals showing up when you convert an altar 22:38 I'm chill with the dude who shows up when you name sting...surprised me at first but now I just dash down the stairs lol 22:41 my mistake was pressing n for nethack 22:46 lol 22:46 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 22:46 -!- Beholder has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:46 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 22:46 -!- cadmium.libera.chat changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ Junethack 2021 has ended, good games everyone! - https://junethack.net 22:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:3569 22:48 ^ someone alert the media 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:4374 22:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24003 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2934 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bow on an altar, on T:3006 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 holy charging", on T:25130 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed burningchrome's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:4464 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 cursed genocide", on T:25133 23:14 dear god why is there a master mindflayer in the mines 23:14 no wonder that's a bones level 23:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:14 luckstone worth it?? 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3083 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:26387 23:22 -!- potato44 has joined #hardfought 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Bartlem's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:4635 23:24 <@Shadow_Rider> probably not lol 23:24 <@Shadow_Rider> unless you got attack wands 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) stole 89 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Berhala's delicatessen, on T:4199 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1806 points, T:4210, killed by Ms. Berhala; the shopkeeper 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:27807 23:29 -!- Kougyoku has joined #hardfought 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:29318 23:31 wow I had no idea master mindflayers are RNG generated in the mines. 23:33 -!- Kougyoku has quit [Changing host] 23:33 -!- Kougyoku has joined #hardfought 23:35 master mineflayer 23:35 Yeah, minesflayers are a very rare but quite established Thing™ 23:36 yeah, it was a bones level so I was watching my back. Two blasts with a wand of cold and he was ded. 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:32944 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Scout, on T:33691 23:42 Good shit. 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:34675 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34677 23:50 Oh, playing Ranger this time? 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:35376 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:35378 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:35380 23:57 <@Shadow_Rider> ranger very fun 23:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:57 <@Shadow_Rider> probably second fav role after priest 23:57 Neat 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:36096 23:58 ranger early and mid game so boring