00:09 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) defeated Vlad the Impaler, on T:37405 00:15 -!- SleepRs is now known as aoei 00:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Sorceress, on T:31853 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:30, killed by a little dart 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:32266 00:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Baalphegor, on T:40638 00:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:40669 00:59 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) defeated the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39053 01:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:40997 01:09 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:39747 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9970 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3649 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3770 01:27 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) killed Glasya, on T:41353 01:32 -!- mariari has joined #hardfought 01:37 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:41 -!- wishstudio8 has joined #hardfought 01:41 -!- sockthief is now known as Menchers 01:42 -!- wishstudio has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:42 -!- wishstudio8 is now known as wishstudio 01:42 <@Umby> aosdict, whenever you have a chance 01:42 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/867280421715968020/unknown.png 01:42 <@Umby> I forget if stuff like this was fixed already but playing it safe 01:43 Also god Asmo's an asshole rn 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:10919 01:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:56256 01:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) killed Daemon, on T:41934 01:52 -!- fakepass has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11248 02:02 -!- mariari has joined #hardfought 02:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:09 🤔 ID'd cursed genocide and uncursed taming 02:14 Tempted to raise up a gray/silver dragon pet 02:15 (this is xnh so intrinsics are on the menu at least) 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +5 helm of brilliance", on T:33843 02:16 <@FIQ> !tell K2 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/oib0cx/playing_fiqhack_spellcost_is_acting_weird/h5yvz5p/ can you give me a stack trace for this? not on desktop (and wont be for some time) so I can't just load up his save and check 02:16 I'm on it, @FIQ. 02:17 Yo FIQ 02:17 <@FIQ> hi 02:17 Hello @FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 02:17 How's hacks 02:18 <@FIQ> also please ping me on discord side when you get to it or I might fail to notice 02:18 <@FIQ> (the gateway can't ping) 02:20 !tell K2 Be sure to ping FIQ on the Discord side when you get to his message too! 02:20 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire. 02:20 FIQ: He's on vacay till Sunday 02:20 Wanna make sure he doesn't miss that 02:21 <@FIQ> well that is inconvenient 02:21 <@FIQ> but very well 02:21 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:21 <@FIQ> wanted this ideally fixed before I got back home in 2 weeks so the user could continue playing heh 02:22 this why we need a second in command 02:22 aoei: Message from FIQ at 2021-07-17 09:14 EDT: if you aren't the current master of xd.cm, perhaps you ought to become so? given that ascrun (the original owners of xd.cm) has terminated continued service of NetHack variants, and only hosts historical data atm 02:23 * aoei shrugs 02:23 K2 owns nethackscoreboard.org and points it to a server he also owns where I maintain the scoreboard 02:23 isn't that enough? 02:23 i mean, i know the owners of xd.cm, so i could always ask them 02:23 what was the old address, scoreboard.xd.cm? 02:24 <@FIQ> aoei: fun fact: for a brief time, I think I was considered for that role by virtue of being the one hosting the EU server, but it fell through when K2 decided to host on Amazon instead 02:24 ah 02:24 <@FIQ> or we'd have the same situation as now in spite of having a second in command :P 02:24 hah 02:25 <@FIQ> aoei: scoreboard.xd.cm is what I use to access the NHS 02:25 <@FIQ> and apparently I'm not alone 02:25 <@Earth Traveler> wait what situation do we have 02:25 <@FIQ> since it used to be the only domain 02:25 <@FIQ> @Earth Traveler nothing critical 02:25 but yeah i might talk to kerio and deepy about the domain and servers/what they plan to do with it all 02:25 <@FIQ> just someone having a crashed save 02:25 Bug in a game is all 02:25 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26 Yeah that. 02:26 <@Earth Traveler> oh okay 02:26 <@FIQ> and thus can't get back to playing it for like a week 02:26 huh, scoreboard.xd.cm redirects to nethackscoreboard.org 02:26 K2's out until Sunday so 02:26 i had no idea kerio/deepy had set that up lol 02:26 or maybe Mandevil did it 02:26 <@FIQ> because K2 is away and I can't look into it due to not being on desktop 02:26 if he still had control 02:26 i have no idea honestly 02:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:8809 02:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:9081 02:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6196 02:33 -!- mariari has joined #hardfought 02:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6306 02:35 i always use scoreboard.xd.cm because its shorter 02:37 ok i guess i will need to gain control of that domain 02:37 as well as nethackscoreboard.org 02:37 and set up my own hosting solution 02:37 K2 was like 'just tell me where u want me to point nethackscoreboard.org and ill do it' but incase anything should happen to him i want full control 02:40 <@FIQ> ah I was unaware that K2 hosted it 02:41 <@FIQ> my point was mostly "take it off the hands of the ones who no longer has a vested interest in hosting it" 02:41 <@FIQ> :P 02:41 ah okay 02:41 yeah the situation isnt that bad 02:41 but still i'd like full control of the hosting and domains associated with the project, eventually 02:41 <@FIQ> ah 02:42 <@Earth Traveler> hey lurchy! i found that wiz bones you left yesterday! 02:42 mostly incase K2 dies 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:9828 02:42 <@FIQ> is nao still a completely seperate entity, just one that K2 happens to have a link to? 02:43 NAO is a separate entity but K2 is a mod/co-admin 02:43 he has some privileged access rights 02:43 <@FIQ> because if K2 is the main admin of it, why not merge it under the same infrastructure as hdf and give nao users the benefit of an EU server 02:43 but it's still a separate thing run by paxed/dtype 02:43 <@FIQ> ah, only co-admin 02:43 <@FIQ> fair 02:44 also the hardfought bus factor is high enough as it is without merging additional stuff under it that we risk losing if we lose K2 02:44 :P 02:45 we must never let K2 and dtype get on the same bus 02:45 (or, well, as it's the US, the same car) 02:46 shots fire 02:46 d 02:46 lmao 02:46 as its the US 02:46 <@Earth Traveler> spoiler: america also has buses 02:46 also spoiler: nobody uses them 02:46 because american buses suck 02:46 public transportation is communism 02:46 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 02:46 ^ 02:46 it has 'public' in it 02:46 <@Earth Traveler> tell that to the packed buses i've sat on... 02:47 thanks for checking out strim yesterday stenno 02:47 gj aoei 02:48 ty 02:48 <@luxidream> they exist in large cities 02:48 i will probably do a couple before the exciting event ;o 02:48 o look its the real star of the show 02:48 hai luxidream 02:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:49 <@luxidream> hallo 02:49 Hello @luxidream, Welcome to #hardfought 02:49 <@luxidream> didn't realize beholder liked that 02:49 <@luxidream> hullo 02:49 <@luxidream> >:( 02:49 lol 02:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:55 lol 02:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3208 03:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 362623 points, T:34226, killed by a soldier mummy 03:04 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:07 -!- Saxtheow1 has joined #hardfought 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4224 03:15 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 03:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4318 03:17 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:35331 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35335 03:32 Hello athame drop o: 03:32 The nasties that master lich summoned must've slapped their shit 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:12082 03:41 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.2] 03:42 -!- tacco has quit [] 03:45 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 03:50 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 03:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aoei] by ChanServ 04:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:59296 04:10 aoei: what kind of maintainance work does nhs require? 04:10 stenno: not a lot :D 04:10 its very stable 04:11 there are updates/new features/new variants to consider adding tho 04:11 and i have a planned rewrite kinda 04:11 because wtf Perl and static HTML files 04:11 is it still the old perl codebase? 04:11 apparently 04:12 yeah I have some ideas for rewrite but it's work and what we have now still functions 04:12 so laziness prevails 04:12 stenno: be patient with me, please 04:12 great things are in the making 04:12 and you would rewrite it in rust with react ssr frontend? 04:13 nah im gonna rewrite tnnt in python and backport the bulk of that to NHS 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:13077 04:13 so she keeps saying, but i don't believe her and fully expect Perl-driven TNNT in 2021 04:13 he's probably asleep but that 04:14 is what he would be saying rn 04:14 uh ok 04:15 have faith though! 04:15 * aoei will deliver 04:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "+3 blessed greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:13079 04:15 * stenno vaguely has faith 04:15 i guess github activity would be more convincing 04:15 it's time to rewrite in 04:16 * amateurhour rolls dice 04:16 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 04:16 erlang 04:16 lol 04:16 * aoei rerolls 04:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:16 haskell 04:16 hm i liked the other one better 04:16 * amateurhour rerolls 04:16 perl 04:16 wait go back 04:16 lmao 04:16 * aoei rerolls 04:16 scala 04:16 wouldn't be too bad 04:19 does someone know somebody who actually knows how to write scala 04:19 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:19 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 04:20 all nethack screenshots are valid perl 04:21 lmao NetSysFire 04:23 -!- Saxtheow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) had a bone broadsword entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:15734 04:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3388 04:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 2673 points, T:2494, killed by a warg 04:47 i got an unidentified amulet which isnt restful sleep and i stepped onto a level teleport trap and resisted. its not unchanging right 04:47 possibly reflection maybe? 04:48 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown, on T:4246, rt[0:29:55] 04:48 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4276, rt[0:30:01] 04:48 sounds like MR 04:48 what was the message? 04:49 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:4348, rt[0:31:41] 04:50 if "wrenching sensation" then it's MR 04:51 <@Earth Traveler> this is in vanilla? 04:53 yes 04:54 -!- Saxtheow1 has joined #hardfought 04:55 <@Earth Traveler> where there is... no amulet of MR 04:56 yeah 04:56 <@Earth Traveler> are you sure you resisted that level tele trap? 04:58 !pom 04:58 Grassy: The moon is waxing gibbous; full moon in 3 days. 04:58 yes but its not so important now i will identify it later 04:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:36917 05:05 sorry I play so much evilhack I forgot that vanilla has no amulet of MR :-) 05:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:08 its unchanging 05:08 dunno if i misread or something 05:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2585 05:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed tsimons' ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:7472 05:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17915 05:10 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1328, rt[0:13:35] 05:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed oh6's ghost, the former Pilferer, on T:7489 05:10 double bones 05:11 both floating eye deaths 05:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:7511 05:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:7511 05:11 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 917 points, T:1390, killed by a dwarf 05:13 give that floating eye a medal 05:13 and cursed bohs 05:13 a nice shiny one that makes it easy to see ;) 05:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:16 also a magic marker 05:17 perfect point to #save and do something else 05:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:18389 05:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:50 <@FIQ> I had a friend who loved scala 05:50 <@FIQ> but that was years ago, not sure if they've written anything in it the last decade 05:52 some company i was applying for before i got this job were using Scala for their backend 05:53 -!- Saxtheow1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:53 the job was React JS / frontend dev tho 05:57 !who 05:57 Grassy: [hdf-us] Grasshopper [nh370] tinklebear [evil] | [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] | [hdf-eu] Singhend [un] mobileuser [sp] elenmirie [evil] 06:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 10937 points, T:2707, killed by an ochre jelly, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:13 -!- entuland has joined #hardfought 06:15 sounds like a dessert 06:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:16 I love a bit of frozen ochre jelly with a monster's gaze sauce 06:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:23 <@Earth Traveler> i wonder if blue jelly is a popular dessert in nethackverse 06:29 there's always room for jelly 06:29 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:31 -!- Lymia has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:36 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 76892 points, T:20490, killed by a troll 06:41 <@nabru> ! ping 06:41 @nabru: Pong! 06:42 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4939 points, T:6199, killed by an owlbear 06:47 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1023, rt[0:04:16] 06:49 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41522 06:54 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:55 [hdf-eu] [un] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1563 points, T:3241, killed by a hill orc 06:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:57 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 760 points, T:1951, killed by a soldier ant 07:02 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1093, rt[0:04:06] 07:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:06 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1543 points, T:1573, killed by the ghost of Blinky, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:09 <@FIQ> huh didn't know you could do that 07:09 <@FIQ> ! who 07:09 @FIQ: [hdf-us] Grasshopper [nh370] post163 [nh370] hack84 [slshm] | [hdf-eu] Singhend [un] mobileuser [sp] | [hdf-au] No current players 07:10 <@FIQ> Grassy: for some reason I thought you lived in AU 07:10 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown, on T:1021, rt[0:04:13] 07:10 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:11 <@FIQ> australia, not alternate universe :) 07:11 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:1125, rt[0:04:39] 07:12 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1171, rt[0:05:39] 07:13 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 07:13 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:13 FIQ did you find the valley in gnollhack to be especially difficult? 07:16 also you can still twoweapon as a monk even after they removed the skill it seems, heh 07:18 FIQ I am Aussie in Thailand. Sometimes I play on US server, it is only a little slower 07:20 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 697 points, T:1912, killed by a dart 07:20 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 18 points, T:26, fell into a pit 07:29 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1139, rt[0:08:24] 07:31 @Umby is this a bug report? what's the bug? 07:31 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:32 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:42377 07:33 the bug is team a 07:33 also go mobileuser 07:36 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42378 07:37 thx NetSysFire 07:37 huh was that your first wizard of yendor kill 07:37 <@Earth Traveler> no 07:37 <@Earth Traveler> i saw his first one 07:38 <@Earth Traveler> amateurhour the window's open for your slex fork now Xd 07:38 lol 07:38 I'm not really gonna make one 07:39 did you see the changes in the wiki? amy has officially retired now 07:39 slex is frozen now 07:39 <@Earth Traveler> wow 07:39 I didn't see that 07:39 amateurhour: lets fork slex and make it balanced :p 07:39 <@Earth Traveler> can't say i'm too surprised tho 07:39 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bluescreenofdeath 07:39 <@Earth Traveler> is it even hosted anywhere else 07:40 "too offensive" is a mild word if you literally put naked kids into your game 07:42 <@nabru> rip slex 07:42 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:42 <@nabru> I won't miss it anyways and the less said about it, the better 07:42 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:42 i wonder what happens to the slashem.me server 07:43 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:43 it'll probably still exist, slex isn't the only game there after all 07:43 yeah 07:43 it hosts things like slethe (slashem with the lethe patch) that can't be found elsewhere 07:43 whats the lethe patch 07:44 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Lethe_patch check out the links in there to "Lethe Gorge" and "Gehennom" to see what the maps look like 07:44 <@Earth Traveler> something made by someone who thought amnesia wasn't prolific enough in nethack 07:44 lethe water triggers amnesia too yeah haha 07:46 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 07:46 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:46 I suppose it will be up to the ESM host on whether to keep slex 07:47 if i read that right amy and elronnd, the other slex dev, take care of that server 07:48 <@Earth Traveler> there's another slex dev?? 07:48 elronnd isn't a slex dev 07:48 does a slashem port iirc 07:49 i am very certain hang on lemme get a source 07:49 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Slash%27EM_Extended 07:49 grep for Elronnd 07:50 I think it's old info, they're not even known by that name anymore 07:50 probably 07:50 who even is Elronnd? 07:50 <@Earth Traveler> they're Elronnd 07:51 * NetSysFire reads a scroll of earth in Earth Travelers general direction 07:52 <@Earth Traveler> my own variant has a couple weird issues right now 07:52 oh like what? 07:53 <@Earth Traveler> my custom mine's end doesn't seem to like putting dwarves in the right spots 07:53 <@Earth Traveler> and there's one room that's supposed to be filled with dwarves and dwarf lords 07:53 <@Earth Traveler> ...and instead is filled with random monsters 07:56 who wants to make a variant in perl with me 07:56 just kidding 08:00 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:00 <@Earth Traveler> also, i gave medusa an acid bite attack, but the game doesn't realize that it can miss 08:01 <@Earth Traveler> by which i mean, it will say "You're covered in acid!" even though i took no damage at all 08:04 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:10 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5587 08:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 7995 points, T:6004, killed by a soldier ant 08:25 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:41 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:42 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:52 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:52 -!- Saxtheow1 has joined #hardfought 08:53 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2871 08:54 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 09:00 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3807 09:05 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 137 points, T:338, killed by a dart 09:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4013 09:13 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:42635 09:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) consumed animal products (iguana) for the first time, on T:4719 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:47962 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:47998 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1796 points, T:4460, killed by a chameleon imitating a giant centipede 09:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5162 09:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 3754 points, T:2646, killed by Ms. Ga'er; the shopkeeper 09:33 <@SpicyCebolla> this is really cool for JNH 09:34 <@SpicyCebolla> those "do a thing in every variant" trophies are actually interesting and pursuable now 09:35 <@SpicyCebolla> though still a tall order given the sheer number 09:36 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:42664 09:37 what are you talking about SpicyCebolla? 09:37 sorry, I know it's annoying when people do that, but I looked at the log already and couldn't figure it out 09:37 <@SpicyCebolla> ah, earlier they mentioned amybsod freezing her github repos 09:38 oh, I see 09:39 <@SpicyCebolla> at 07:39 09:39 <@SpicyCebolla> in the universally agreed upon SERVER TIME 09:41 <@SpicyCebolla> also how cool are the upcoming collapsing rope bridges in splice?! 09:41 <@SpicyCebolla> i wonder if they'll count for stairs connectivity checks 09:41 <@SpicyCebolla> would love to dump some wandering monsters into water/lava 09:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2841 points, T:5640, killed by a gray unicorn 09:44 sounds pretty cool 09:44 I'm out of the loop, is there a list of splicehack2 stuff? 09:45 <@nabru> !time 09:45 @nabru: Wed Jul 21 09:45:08 2021 EDT 09:45 there's a github repo 09:45 is there a concise list within that repo? :P 09:46 idk check urself 09:46 <@SpicyCebolla> ahour: https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack-Rewrite/blob/main/skills.txt and https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack-Rewrite/blob/main/doc/spl-changelog.txt 09:46 thanks aoei very helpful :P 09:47 well lucky for you someone else was more helpful :D 09:47 <@SpicyCebolla> variant changelogs, pick 1: concise, or helpful? 09:47 this is an invalid action 09:47 you can't just rewrite your variant 09:47 ndnh2 WHEN 09:47 <@SpicyCebolla> actually unnh's log is both concise and helpful, but that's an aberration 09:49 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:53 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:41469 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "foo", on T:4258 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1767 10:02 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:42696 10:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2269 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] MAlischka2 (Val Hum Fem Law), 549 points, T:1141, killed by a little dog 10:20 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7104, rt[1:06:57] 10:20 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:22 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:42715 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law), 13846 points, T:9483, killed by an air elemental 10:28 -!- Saxtheow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:30 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:8772, rt[1:17:20] 10:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 2783 points, T:3801, poisoned by a killer bee 10:31 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 2987593 points, T:42756, ascended 10:31 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/sporkhack/dumplog/1626289989.sp.txt 10:31 gg 10:32 thx, my first sporkhack asc! \o/ 10:32 wp 10:32 <@SpicyCebolla> nice 10:32 <@SpicyCebolla> thoughts and feels about sporkhack? 10:32 gratz mobileuser !! 10:32 thx! 10:33 sporkhack has some features that evilhack also implemented, but it's easier than evilhack 10:34 biggest problem is less resources 10:34 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:8964, rt[1:20:38] 10:34 and you need to prepare really well for astral 10:34 <@nabru> gg! 10:34 thx! 10:35 -!- jilles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:35 the magic missiles will drain HP quickly if you let yourself be surrounded by angels 10:35 and sporkhack has some cap on max HP based on Con 10:38 <@SpicyCebolla> must seem weird if nurse dancing just suddenly stops working at a number 10:39 it did stop working! 10:39 <@SpicyCebolla> but the amount of HP you can have in vanilla gets pretty silly 10:39 waste of geno scrolls 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9128 10:39 <@SpicyCebolla> haha rip 10:41 !rng work longer | go find sustenance 10:41 aoei: go find sustenance 10:41 i must do as the Beholder commands 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4999 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5215 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5265 10:45 -!- Saxtheow1 has joined #hardfought 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9641 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:5506 10:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:73442 10:58 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 11:01 !ping 11:01 cccrow: Pong! 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6246 11:05 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown, on T:9435, rt[1:46:30] 11:07 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:9496, rt[1:48:13] 11:07 <@SpicyCebolla> yaknow, in the variants which fix up all the junk arti weapons (such as the Banes) to be worthwhile, there's less of a need for the RNG to give you further sac gifts 11:09 <@SpicyCebolla> sacrificing until you get Foo is tedious, and if Kos or whoever only gave you one or two tries, it would improve the variation between runs. that was the game where you used demonbane, this is the game where you're using vorpal blade, etc 11:10 -!- Saxtheow3 has joined #hardfought 11:12 <@luxidream> are sting and orcrist buffed in any variant 11:12 yes 11:13 dnh 11:13 <@luxidream> oh right, that was a stupid question 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Esquire, on T:3599 11:13 -!- Saxtheow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:13 <@luxidream> it would be frustrating to be stuck with a weapon that does no extra damage to most monsters in the game 11:13 orcrist also gets demon hating and 2x dmg agaisnt the stuff it hates and if offhandable 11:14 I like the first-sac and crowning gift thing that dnh does 11:14 the wot 11:14 like how male drow noble gets the death spear as their first gift 11:14 or fem drow noble gets sceptre of lolth 11:15 -!- Saxtheow3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:15 and different crowning gifts based on role/race/etc 11:15 you mean how psuedoroles shockingly act like roles? 11:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:67407 11:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:67408 11:15 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:16 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 11:18 yeah 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7264 11:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ran Hlf Fem Neu), 11196 points, T:8417, killed by a soldier ant 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:4076 11:26 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a water nymph, on T:9890, rt[2:07:20] 11:28 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 11:29 oh hm splice removed the intelligent pet patch 11:29 maybe I should give up my plans on porting it 11:30 aosdict: when did that happen? 11:32 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:10643, rt[2:13:27] 11:33 see the links spicycebolla posted a screen or two back 11:33 the changelog specifically 11:39 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1220, rt[0:10:57] 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:5401 11:41 -!- antigulp has joined #hardfought 11:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v antigulp] by ChanServ 11:43 !tell K2 I don't want to restart the conversation, but good stuff on the Slex removal. Your work running the server is always appreciated! 11:43 antigulp: Messages from Umpyre and misha have been forwarded to you privately. 11:43 Will do, antigulp! 11:44 Have fun porting the intelligent pet patch, aosdict. It's an absolute nightmare to make it work with 3.7, imo. 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:48963 11:44 let's not port it 11:44 it's one of the things on the todo list that's been repeatedly kicked to lower priority probably because deep down I don't want to do it 11:44 what is intelligent pet patch? 11:45 For sure. It's a really cool patch, but next to the monster riding patch I wrote it's probably the source of the most bugs in Splice. 11:45 -!- jilles has joined #hardfought 11:45 Demo: Grunt's pet AI, basically. 11:45 what's that 11:45 pets using ranged attacks? 11:46 https://bilious.alt.org/?259 11:46 messy 11:46 i would never try to merge that and do my own implementation instead 11:47 esp 3.4.3 based -> 3.7 based 11:47 yak 11:47 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown, on T:2050, rt[0:18:20] 11:47 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:2077, rt[0:18:26] 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:8727 11:47 antigulp: maybe it would be more useful to make a list of the things it does, abstracted away from the actual code? 11:47 then you/I/whoever can think about reimplementing those things without trying to port anything 11:47 the variants with the best intelligent pets is probably fiqhack? 11:47 and thats all from scratch 11:48 second best would be dnh 11:48 idk how that code came to be other than slowly and painfully? 11:48 aosdict: I think so. A decent amount of it has been superseded by vanilla's changes as well. 11:49 I would volunteer to make such a list but I never got into the nitty gritty enough to figure out what exactly it's doing 11:49 I probably can at some point. I have more experience with it than I would like. 11:49 who cares what that patch does, figure out what is desirable and make your own list lol 11:50 a lot of it just seems to be "implement mvm XY&Z or if its already implemented and pets are banned from doing it, work out the correct behavior for pets and add that as a special case" 11:50 The majority of the issues come from the code designed to enhance monster weapon switching. It's just similar enough to be compatible, but just different enough that it causes tons of stealth issues, like monsters swapping weapons repeatedly at certain ranges. 11:51 yeah thats been an evilhack issue 11:51 even dnh still has issues with that 11:51 Doesn't even vanilla struggle with monster weapon switching? 11:51 pets will be getting REAMED by an adjacent monster but will be wielding their polearm and attacking a far away monster 11:51 Not badly, but still 11:52 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1824 points, T:2478, killed by a soldier ant 11:53 the amount of edgecases with "what should pets be doing anyways" is insane 11:53 just get github copilot to write it for u and force push to master 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] ingeorg (Kni Hum Mal Law), 102 points, T:345, killed by a land mine 11:55 thats a good variant concept 11:59 antigulp: so what's the rationale for removing penguins (since it's available upon request) 12:00 I like to think that slaughtering poor innocent penguins was just deeed a step too far 12:00 deemed* 12:00 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 12:00 but probably the explanation is "chaff" 12:00 aosdict: They felt tonally very out of step. I would rather replace them with falcons, or something like that. Plus, people were confused by eating penguins made gods mad. 12:01 To which my response was, "Why would you do that to a poor penguin? :(" 12:01 Plus chaff, yeah 12:01 the skills sound cool 12:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:44175 12:03 I thought falcons already exist? 12:03 or at least giant ones 12:03 They were replaced by penguins :^) 12:03 oh 12:03 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03 I don't like penguins cause you can't tell what they are thinking 12:03 kind of seedy and hard to trust i guess 12:05 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:11499 12:05 I think a role/racial skill system is definitely the way to go over techniques. It builds off the existing skill system, allows for character customization and multiple viable builds, and further differentiates existing roles and races. 12:06 skill tree plz 12:07 That's the idea, although having an actual tree rather than just individual skills to invest in is sort of a SMOP 12:08 just don't be afraid to get your hands reallllly dirty with some awful menu code 12:08 Ugh, menu code :( 12:08 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1811, rt[0:16:11] 12:09 yeah lol good luck 12:09 it is interesting design wise because nethack is largely a tactical game with some strategy; techniques are tactical and skills are strategic 12:09 <@luxidream> strange that you say that, I always thought it was the opposite 12:11 <@luxidream> most players are going to die because of strategy mistakes, like being somewhere they shouldn't be 12:18 six of one half a dozen of the other I guess. you can probably point at most deaths and highlight the strategic bad decision and the tactical one (like: you were somewhere you shouldn't be... but you had the opportunity to retreat or escape and decided to hit the monster one more time instead) 12:18 -!- antigulp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19 lol @ spl narcoleptic dragons 12:20 how does one learn the identity of a demon? I wonder if it's like unnethack dragons at all 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:8561 12:21 darn antigulp left 12:22 -!- antigulp has joined #hardfought 12:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v antigulp] by ChanServ 12:23 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 12:24 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #hardfought 12:24 new minetown variant :D 12:24 it's lavender town :(AA 12:26 boo 12:28 oooh 12:28 that tower could be a neat branch 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7921 12:31 it's the music that I don't like 12:31 which I guess is not a problem in nethack 12:31 except my brain will insert it as the soundtrack 12:32 what's that white hand on your shoulder? 12:32 my butler 12:33 antigulp: why allow a rare chance of the player starting with material variant items? doesn't that encourage a certain brand of low-freq startscummers (cough aoei cough) 12:33 SpliceHack gives players Lavender Town Syndrome confirmed 12:34 aosdict: More for the excitement of new and unspoiled players. I was hoping the frequency was low enough to deter scummers, but... well, probably not. 12:34 and in zootown, can the watch captain waltz in and unlock the zoo the minute you arrive 12:34 like they can in evilhack 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:49908 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:49909 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 350 points, T:1130, killed by a wand 12:36 Current version Splice has had Zootown for a while. 12:36 > Increased probability of luck damaging melee attacks succeeding. I am not sure how to parse this 12:37 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:37 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:43883 12:37 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:37 AD_LUCK attacks maybe 12:37 oh, luck-damaging attacks 12:38 AD_LUCK, yeah. Only barghests and occasionally shamblers use it. 12:38 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 12:38 Previously it was !rn2(13), which meant in practice it never proc'd 12:38 made it up and it was real, nice 12:38 lmao 12:39 you should see the odds dnh uses 12:39 I mean, if the relevant thing is a four letter word there's a good chance that it's the AT_ or AD_ used 12:39 I think it might use rnl? idk 12:44 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:50 it uses rnl to decide whether to affect your luck? sounds like a feedback loop 12:50 -!- CosmicDJ has quit [Quit: reconnect] 12:50 i wish it did 12:50 it might 12:51 sounds like a very interesting curve of chance of it working 12:51 -!- CosmicDJ has joined #hardfought 12:51 i think luckstones affect its chance of working 12:51 pretty similar to exploding dice, not a feedback loop 12:51 antigulp: the rope bridges are interesting and I'm happy to see underground rivers go (spl doesn't have paranoid liquids right?) 12:52 are there gonna be trolls under the bridges? 12:53 one thing that stuck out to me about the bridges is the logic being more complex than "rope bridge without a support (floor or other rope bridge) on 2 opposite sides collapses". not sure why they would hang in the air for several turns like wile e. coyote 12:54 nethack riddle bridge troll 12:54 !riddle 12:55 !booze Beholder 12:55 * Beholder throws Beholder a shot of Dalwhinnie scotch, conjured by Izchak at 8 degrees Fahrenheit. 12:55 sphinxtroll 12:55 wow drinking on the job Beholder, im telling k2 12:55 it didn't say Beholder drank it 12:55 ok but if he let it go to waste that's also a problem 12:56 <@luxidream> probably so you don't die/drown instantly when something inevitably zaps a wand of fire at you 12:56 the demigod bar has a bottom line and can't be wasting perfectly good booze 12:57 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:57 if timers are involved I wonder if it should be a burn timer rather than a collapse timer 12:58 why would you die from falling off a bridge 12:58 if something zaps fire lengthwise along the bridge you're probably screwed either way 12:58 wouldnt you just fall to the level beneath? 12:58 It does involve timers. Like luxidream said, they don't collapse instantly because that would be dangerous. 12:58 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:58 you can literally fall from dlvl 1 to the castle without taking any dmg or whatever it is 12:58 i cant imagine a bridge gorge is deeper than that 12:58 I think they're usually over liquids not holes 12:58 For now they're over water and lava. In the future, now that I know the code works, there will be chasms / empty space beneath them. 12:59 ah 12:59 antigulp: going to port evilhack air terrain? 12:59 i would put pits or holes beneath them sometimes maybe 12:59 xnh 7.0 will have that stuff for vlads 12:59 aosdict: Probably 12:59 instadeath is lame btw dont add new sources of it 13:00 Again, the liquids beneath are just proof of concept. I don't want to add more instadeath sources. 13:00 ...except the one from (q)uaffing a keg of booze. That one is funny. 13:00 how does that potentially kill you? 13:00 ...and the one from (q)uaffing a furnace. 13:00 i think ive played with the kegs 13:01 i think i determined there wasnt anything to do on that level 13:01 Too much booze 13:01 i died from quaffing orc juice before 13:01 is that an instadeath or does it just hurt you 13:01 whats orc juice 13:02 juice made by pressing orcs I guess 13:02 It just hurts you. 13:02 can u ferment it? 13:02 and make orc booze? 13:02 I don't know if orc juice will be returning 13:03 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 13:03 <@luxidream> can you survive quaffing a furnace if you like fire? 13:03 add a straw and allow players to drink right from the tap when they kill an orc 13:03 <@luxidream> like a salamander 13:03 likes_lava() 13:05 If you drink from a furnace and you like lava, you get the following message: "You chug some lava. Yum!" 13:05 do magic furnaces exist? 13:05 ...I actually don't know? I don't think so? 13:06 yeah idk how that works for fountains 13:06 I'm planning on giving furnaces more of a purpose in the future. 13:06 Magic fountains r weird 13:06 how do you drink the lava, do you cup your hands or do you just stick your face in like a horse 13:06 whats a lava filled furnace look like anyway 13:06 I think that's best left up to the player's imagination 13:06 <@luxidream> wait a minute, the furnace doesn't disappear 13:07 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 13:07 <@luxidream> and you gain nutrition 13:07 infinite foood yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh 13:07 That's correct. 13:07 antigulp: one good thing to add to splice would be some deep sleepwalking lore. vanilla had magical sleepwalking but aosdict deleted it out of spite 13:07 salamander form + furnace + unchanging amulet + altar 13:08 sleepwalking? 13:08 he was jealous of the sleepwalkers I think 13:08 aosdict: First the zruties, and now this? :) 13:08 the zruties are back i think 13:08 what is vanilla sleepwalking? 13:08 used to be that a sleeping pet could be displaced every so often at random, if you kept trying to walk into them 13:08 a comment said they "magically sleepwalk" 13:08 ah nice 13:08 but then aosdict deleted it (and left the comment just to remind everyone of what we've lost) 13:09 lmao 13:10 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:10 <@luxidream> just reflavor it as pulling the sleeping pet over to where you were standing 13:10 <@luxidream> maybe this presents some problem with pet cockatrices never mind 13:11 idk why the sleepwalking has to be 'magical' but I guess that's just part of the deep lore aspect 13:11 <@Joanna> Me and friend planning tea date at mine: 13:11 <@Joanna> we shall put tea into cups 13:11 <@Joanna> and then ascend to the roof terrace 13:12 <@Joanna> ascension sounds good 13:12 <@Joanna> I'll make a nethack player of her yet >:D 13:12 <@riker> can I come ascend to the roof terrace aoei 13:12 <@Joanna> Ya 13:12 <@riker> fuck yeah 13:12 whats a roof terrace? 13:12 <@Joanna> We can all ascend! 13:12 is it a roof ur supposed to be on or not? 13:12 <@Joanna> You're supposed to be on it 13:12 i dont like those 13:13 roof terrace is something decadent people like joanna have 13:13 <@Joanna> There's flat bits and seats and a garden 13:13 i like the roofs ur not supposed to be on cause it "isnt safe" 13:13 cool kids only go on roofs they aren't supposed to be on 13:13 <@Joanna> It's not my own flat unfortunately 13:13 demo == cool kid 13:13 <@Joanna> Only staying here temporarily 13:13 actually i like those because they are still roofs 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 31685 points, T:10441, killed by a Woodland-elf 13:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:20494 13:13 <@Joanna> While this singer chick whose room im staying in is on vacation in Sweden 13:13 <@riker> fancy 13:13 <@Joanna> It's kind of a fancy flat 13:14 <@Joanna> A fancy flat where arty persons live 13:14 a good place wouldnt have a roof cause a good place wouldnt need one 13:14 why would i ever live somewhere something that could cause me any problems would fall out of the sky? 13:14 same for walls 13:14 yeah true 13:14 <@Joanna> Ok ok i gotta head home my friend is meeting me in 45 min 13:14 <@luxidream> demo confirmed living in the atacama desert 13:14 demo lives in the garden of eden 13:14 im the snake i think 13:15 <@Joanna> But: true story i climbed on the school roof in elementary 13:15 "go climb on the forbidden roof" 13:15 <@Joanna> I wasn't supposed to be up there 13:15 <@Joanna> Was I a cool kid? >:o 13:15 no roofs are so 5 minutes ago 13:15 <@luxidream> you lost cool kid status when you went on this socially acceptable roof 13:15 not needing a roof because you live in paradise is whats in right now 13:15 <@luxidream> sorry 13:15 <@Joanna> Dang :C 13:16 Demo: How do you feel about floors? 13:16 <@Joanna> Oh well at least i was cool at some point 13:16 <@Joanna> Better to have been cool and warmed up 13:16 <@Joanna> Than to have always been a dweeb 13:16 don't know enough about them to have an opinion 13:16 they're basically roofs but for your feet 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9739 13:28 -!- antigulp has quit [Quit: Later, alligator!] 13:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:32 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:34 <@SpicyCebolla> aosdict: think of it like a movie. where part of the rope bridge breaks, but the characters run run run to the other side before the whole bridge falls 13:42 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:10307 13:44 [hdf-eu] [gnoll] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1965508 points, T:34896, ascended 13:44 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/gnollhack/dumplog/1626716842.gnoll.txt 13:45 grats 13:45 first public gnoll asc? 13:45 nah I think FIQ did it twice on public servers including hardfought 13:45 that was weaponless vegan genoless polyless wishless 13:46 both poly ones 13:46 brb dinner 13:46 thats a lot of conducts 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:67967 13:50 <@SpicyCebolla> found it, mobileuser https://github.com/NHTangles/sporkhack/commit/1935f01fd5d12816a66e47876b7064d3a9a1b9c5 13:50 <@SpicyCebolla> gz ahour 13:51 <@riker> amateurhour would say conducts are easier or harder in gnoll? 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:22894 13:51 <@SpicyCebolla> would be cool if the chosen difficulty was displayed at the top of the dumplog, or in the Beholder message 13:52 Ah, interesting! thanks SpicyCebolla! 13:53 So XP-level counts as well... 13:56 <@SpicyCebolla> i hope there aren't ways to have a Con of 20 or more... seems like that code would give you less HP than if you had 19 Con 13:56 hahaha "Someone who slaps on the amulet of unchanging and then busts out the HP abuse, well, very clever, congratulations ;) " 13:56 tempting :b 13:58 if you play dwarf you can have Con 20 14:01 <@SpicyCebolla> is lorimer on irc? 14:01 I'd say those ones are fine riker, but you have to luck into finding useful items 14:01 <@SpicyCebolla> i'm real curious why this part, then. "if (conbonus < 0 || conbonus > 4) conbonus = 0;" 14:01 maybe a little easier than vanilla depending what you get early on 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:11590 14:02 <@SpicyCebolla> oh, nvm 14:02 <@SpicyCebolla> that got fixed later 14:02 <@SpicyCebolla> if (conbonus < 0) conbonus = 0; if (conbonus > 4) conbonus = 4; 14:03 ah ok 14:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:05 gnollhack is fun though, I would recommend it 14:06 monks are epic OP atm because you can twoweapon their martial arts 14:06 only realised that right near the end though, as I thought they'd already removed that 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:51270 14:07 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:11 <@SpicyCebolla> curious about the "drain" you mentioned with magic missiles 14:11 <@SpicyCebolla> you mean they do some damage through MR, or that they drain maxhp? 14:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:23881 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 354 points, T:1138, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1638 14:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Hum Fem Law), 176 points, T:383, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:51770 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Kni Hum Fem Law), 15138 points, T:11390, killed by an air elemental, while praying 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:3962 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3972 14:36 [hdf-eu] [un] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown, on T:1038, rt[0:06:29] 14:37 [hdf-eu] [un] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:1065, rt[0:06:42] 14:38 [hdf-eu] [un] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1112, rt[0:07:36] 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5124 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:52682 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10324 points, T:6965, killed by a giant ant 14:48 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 14:53 <@nabru> Go team a! 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:15837 14:56 hi SpicyCebolla 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3281 14:57 I mean that magic missiles in sporkhack are not completely negated by MR and reflection 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:3484 14:57 Angels showering you in magic missiles do a lot of damage 14:57 (same in evilhack) 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4271 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4363 15:04 -!- Menchers is now known as `Menchers` 15:05 -!- `Menchers` is now known as `-` 15:06 -!- `-` is now known as `Menchers` 15:06 -!- stenno is now known as `o` 15:06 <`o`> nice 15:06 -!- `o` is now known as lol 15:06 -!- lol is now known as stenno 15:09 oh I did not realize orcish war juice was nuked from splice 15:09 stenno: lmao 15:09 I had that idea for making it better, but yeah could take it or leave it I guess. I don't like its current form 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5764 15:10 splice? is there a new version? 15:10 splicehack was so great that they're making splicehack2 15:12 heh 15:13 <@SpicyCebolla> add -Rewrite to the repo name, and you'll be there, muser 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6099 15:14 m'user 15:14 * amateurhour tips oilskin fedora 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 705 points, T:1136, poisoned by a dagger 15:17 <@nabru> !ping 15:17 @nabru: Pong! 15:20 splicehack0 was so great they're making splicehack1, rather 15:21 YASI: if you're wearing a fedora, you're more likely to fail with succubi 15:23 you're such a nice guy, I wish.. 15:23 hahaha 15:24 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:9752 15:24 <@Shadow_Rider> am i missing some important piece of knowledge 15:24 <@Shadow_Rider> im playing neutral valk and soko zoo keeps waking up 15:24 that's what I wonder every day 15:27 <@luxidream> What are you wielding 15:27 <@Shadow_Rider> mojo 15:27 <@Shadow_Rider> does it deal area damage 15:27 <@luxidream> Yep that’s the problem 15:27 <@Shadow_Rider> ah k 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:17811 15:28 where there is lightning there is thunder 15:28 can't believe it used to be silent smh 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8725 15:32 are there any variants other than dnh that implement new stuff for special levels similar to the lightning clouds on the plane of air? 15:33 "this dungeon feature acts special on this special level" 15:34 does unnethack livelog pointless stuff like entering a shop for the first time but doesn't livelog getting the luckstone? 15:35 damn forgot to turn off autopickup after getting both stones there and just walked over a loadstone 15:35 lol 15:35 D: 15:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1497 15:36 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 35869 points, T:10554, killed by a barrow wight 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:9338 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 24450 points, T:13001, killed by a wolf 15:42 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:19134, rt[4:40:45] 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11727 15:46 !PoM 15:46 APic: The moon is waxing gibbous; full moon in 3 days. 15:47 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:19252, rt[4:45:06] 15:48 stupid stupid stupid software that doesnt have official releases for arm needs to be punished 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:12760 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 47406 points, T:12763, quit 15:53 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:20013, rt[4:51:06] 15:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:733 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4170 points, T:4083, quit 16:00 [hdf-eu] [un] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6154, rt[1:01:07] 16:03 -!- hiddenvoid has joined #hardfought 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 117 points, T:552, killed by a fox 16:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:68, fell into a pit 16:07 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:20725, rt[5:05:48] 16:08 -!- hiddenvoid has quit [Client Quit] 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1292 16:20 [hdf-eu] [un] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 9819 points, T:7934, killed by a dwarf mummy, while praying 16:26 i found a good bug that lets you get infinite markers in 3.7 16:26 wot 16:26 tell me 16:27 why cant i hold all these markers 16:27 well, infinite marker charges 16:27 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 16:27 why can't i hold all these marker charges 16:27 if you engrave with an empty marker it mistakenly deducts 1 from its charges, as though you were writing in ink. if you do it repeatedly it will underflow and you get a marker (0:127). you can then do it repeatedly when the marker runs out 16:27 oh no 16:28 did you test it? 16:28 im about to submit a PR to fix it 16:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28 but yeah i tested it and it works, I got a 0:127 marker 16:28 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 16:28 amazing 16:28 nice find 16:28 pretty funny 16:28 epic 16:28 is that a recent bug? 16:28 it's from feb this year 16:28 ok, so that counts as recent 16:29 could have been used to great effect in junethack 16:29 yep 16:29 maybe it was 16:29 actually is it my fault 16:29 yeah it is 16:29 that was circa my change to engraving 16:29 heard there are some 0day blackhats around 16:30 <@riker> the fbi will come for demo's stash of dnh segfaults sometime :( 16:30 i didn't want to mention demo 16:30 it was you who mentioned him 16:30 haven't we stomped all the useful ones by now riker? 16:30 <@riker> no absolutely mention him >:( 16:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:30 :D 16:30 <@riker> not sure. demo used to maintain that he had a stash of ones he didn't report from his time fuzzing, but I know you also ran the fuzzer and cleaned up a bunch 16:31 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:48873 16:32 I like to think that qt comes across these by reading through my commits with a good mug of tea and either the mindset of a) "ahh that aosdict what a swell guy, I just love his commits so much I reread them for fun" or b) "heh heh I'm going to meticulously pick through everything aosdict ever wrote and expose all the bugs" 16:32 i like to think that they just read through all the commits from everyone 16:32 light bedside reading 16:33 they read it for their kids to fall asleep 16:35 qt: how did you notice the bug 16:35 'and then nhmall said: "Guidebook date bump to reflect most recent update". And line 38 in Guidebook.mn was updated to July 21' 16:35 i just noticed some marker impossibles from a couple months ago in the vanilla paniclog 16:35 aha 16:35 and then when I looked into it i realized it was also deducting a charge per engraving attempt 16:36 srsly tho this is why you write unit tests AOSDICT :V 16:36 unit tests? don't ask me about unit tests. ask bhaak 16:36 are there unit tests for the nethack scoreboard? :P 16:36 aosdict: you literally just said it was your fault 16:36 of course i also sometimes sit back in an easy chair and peruse aosdict's commit history, but this is an unrelated find 16:36 why are you writing code that isn't unit tested, hm? 16:37 imagine testing for nethack source code 16:37 stenno: i mean i think it's actually a pretty good idea :/ 16:37 yeah but maybe its ~30 years too late for that 16:37 wishing for items is already tested 16:37 its never too late to write unit tests 16:37 oh 16:38 see test/*.lua 16:38 nice, paxed 16:38 need to write more tests. there's just not enough hours ... 16:38 stenno: better test coverage will help them hugely with refactoring and code cleanup 16:39 i am not speaking against tests 16:39 i thought you were a prof software developer 🤔 16:39 profi 16:39 its just a hell of a lot of work 16:39 well yeah 16:40 I think if a framework for unit testing the c functions got added to vanilla upstream people might start contributing tests 16:41 adding unit tests to a legacy project is a _lot_ of really boring work 16:41 just magically have unit tests 4head 16:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 346 points, T:1762, killed by a small mimic 16:42 amateurhour: im glad my predecessors at work already did most of that for our legacy product lmao 16:42 one colleague spent a year 16:42 just writing unit tests 16:42 9-5 job every day every week for a year 16:42 unit tests 16:42 don't ever accept a project to write unit tests 16:43 in my team we write unit tests to cover code changes and don't insist that everything be tested 16:43 thus the percentage tested grows slowly 16:43 but we don't have to step out and allocate tons of time to do it 16:44 that's what we currently do 16:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:2971 16:49 nice one qt 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3492 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3558 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3621 16:53 <@post163> !variant 16:53 @post163: unnethack 16:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:4145 17:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2308 points, T:6046, quit 17:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4760 17:14 <@SpicyCebolla> cute 17:14 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/867514916873306132/unknown.png 17:14 <@SpicyCebolla> sorry, i mean "qt" 17:15 hehe 17:15 well he is a cutie 17:15 why else would he have that nick 17:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:19335 17:18 or maybe i'm overcompensating for being ugly irl 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 5617 points, T:6099, killed by a guardian naga, while paralyzed 17:20 amateurhour: picking up the luckstone is a spoiler. complain about the new livelog events to the developers of evilhack and xnethack. I modelled the new livelog messages after their code. 17:20 it's always good to have a scape goat to divert responsibility 17:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:25966 17:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:25969 17:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:25973 17:28 haha fair enough bhaak 17:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:26006 17:29 hehe 17:30 fwiw, at least one of the minetown's livelogging is also a spoiler (can't remember right now if a second one is also affected_. the data structures don't work well with arbitrary boundaries and for the non rectangular minetowns it is kind of tricky 17:31 I don't see anything wrong with it being a spoiler personally, but it doesn't matter that much :P 17:31 bhaak: are you up to date about the marker bug 17:32 <@luxidream> you shouldn't get an advantage from being on irc :P 17:32 aoei: only what I read about in the backlog 17:33 what did you read in the backlog 17:33 unlimited charges 17:33 do you know about bugles 17:33 no. sounds like a trick question 17:34 unlike all other scare sources they work on humans and angels 17:34 somebody was supposed to report it to devteam but forgot or was lazy 17:34 if you blow a bugle next to a person they get scared 17:35 makes sense to me 17:35 toot toot 17:35 <@ichbinmiah> If you blow a tuba next to them they ask you to excuse yourself 17:35 when scaring was added to bugles some check applied to tooled horns and other scare sources was omited, is_scarable() or something like this 17:35 normally this excludes A and @ 17:35 from being scared 17:35 maybe it was by design, they could be scared by the sound associated with an army 17:35 e z wontfix 17:36 how to turn a bug into a feature 17:36 lol 17:37 <@Shadow_Rider> or bugle should rally angels like the yendorian army 17:39 <@luxidream> A and humans 17:39 <@luxidream> Non human @ can be scared with drums or whatever 17:39 right 17:39 how about bring on the end of the world? 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 5062 points, T:2527, killed by a lynx 17:42 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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You feel agile! You must have been working on your reflexes." 19:32 Makes sense. They say that boxing improves your reflexes. 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) murdered Plek, his faithful kitten, on T:1855 19:37 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Town, on T:23319, rt[6:48:07] 19:56 -!- sleepless has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:56 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 19:59 -!- sleepless has joined #hardfought 20:03 [hdf-us] [un] ssnufd (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:25651, rt[7:13:51] 20:35 !ping 20:35 nabru: Pong! 20:47 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:06 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:13 -!- entuland has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:6668 21:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:44624 21:29 -!- tacco has quit [] 21:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:44653 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had a double-headed axe named Cleaver bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:7635 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 521 points, T:1836, killed by a rock mole, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 21:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:44714 21:52 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:10283 21:56 [hdf-us] [slth] dnj (Fla Inc Fem Cha), 1117 points, T:904, quit 22:00 -!- cccrow has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 22:00 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 22:03 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 22:13 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 546 points, T:916, [0:05:11], killed by a dwarf 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3140 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3157 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1666 points, T:3207, killed by a giant spider 22:25 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2210, rt[0:11:50] 22:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2781, rt[0:14:51] 22:31 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3480 points, T:3524, [0:18:15], killed by a gargoyle 22:33 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #hardfought 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 36024 points, T:11792, killed by a spotted jelly 22:38 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 845 points, T:988, [0:06:35], killed by a rothe 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 177039 points, T:26575, killed by the Dark One 22:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Hea Inc Mal Neu), 4483918 points, T:73915, petrified by a nessian pit fiend 22:51 <@riker> !lastgame dnh 22:51 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Disruptor/dnethack/dumplog/1626056954.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/V/Vis/dnethack/dumplog/1626468682.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/c/cccrow/dnethack/dumplog/1626216331.dnh.txt 22:51 is that level bonesable? 22:52 <@riker> did that second stoning go straight to instadeath 22:52 <@riker> or did it lose msgs 22:52 i think he was already about to die 22:52 that turn 22:52 idk 22:52 <@riker> cuz he had more acid 22:52 worth investigating for sure 22:53 <@riker> I'm concerned that maybe stoning timers aren't cleared on stoning cure 22:53 he didnt cure 22:53 did he? 22:53 <@riker> he cured the previous one 22:54 https://pastebin.com/raw/pPaAUv3a this looks fine to me 22:54 <@luxidream> !who 22:54 @luxidream: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh370] Freya [dnh] shadowrider38 [seed] ssnufd [gnoll] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 22:54 <@riker> maybe it's just odd messaging and he got it cast again as he was turning to stone 22:55 <@riker> that's probably it 22:55 <@riker> I was assuming that a flesh to stone cast fails if they're already being stoned 22:55 looks right https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/867600838468567130/unknown.png 22:56 it calls xstoney 22:56 idk how xstoney handles already stoned duded 22:56 ok yeah it checks if you are already stoned 22:56 <@riker> should probably just fall through to extra dmg in the spell cast then before messaging 22:57 it returns mm_hit even if u are stoned i think 22:57 skimming HARD 22:58 <@riker> that's fine but it probably shouldn't print "u feel less limber" if you're already stoning 22:58 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2000, rt[0:04:14] 22:58 true 22:58 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:58 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2095, rt[0:04:36] 22:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 23:00 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2519, rt[0:05:42] 23:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:45181 23:04 [hdf-au] [evil] cccrow (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 637 points, T:1058, killed by a bolt of fire 23:09 [hdf-au] [dnh] cccrow (Nob Hlf Fem Neu), 97 points, T:192, killed by a sewer rat 23:11 -!- qt has quit [Quit: goodnight] 23:12 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7490, rt[0:18:20] 23:16 [hdf-au] [dnh] cccrow (Nob Vam Fem Neu), 2034 points, T:754, killed by an Uruk-hai 23:20 [hdf-au] [spl] cccrow (Dra Hum Fem Neu), 207 points, T:220, killed by kicking a tree 23:21 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2469, rt[0:19:42] 23:23 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2805, rt[0:22:17] 23:25 -!- Kougyoku has joined #hardfought 23:29 [hdf-au] [ndnh] cccrow (Nob Vam Fem Neu), 296 points, T:477, killed by a hobbit 23:30 !lastgame 23:30 cccrow: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Disruptor/dnethack/dumplog/1626056954.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/seppokalevi7/nethack/dumplog/1626905339.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/c/cccrow/notdnethack/dumplog/1626924406.ndnh.txt 23:31 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 23:34 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4380, rt[0:33:00] 23:35 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 80212 points, T:13044, [0:40:50], killed by a death ray 23:35 <@Shadow_Rider> k thanks 23:35 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7533 points, T:4471, [0:34:03], killed by a troll 23:36 <@Shadow_Rider> hopefully that doesn't happen to lux at esa 23:39 <@luxidream> shhh 23:39 [hdf-au] [seed] cccrow (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 23:39 <@luxidream> it happened to me in practice already 23:39 <@luxidream> had to go around back to do castle and got owned at ~30 minutes 23:39 <@luxidream> pretty much worst case scenario 23:40 <@Shadow_Rider> At least you have a pretty easy explanation why you died lol 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3542 23:40 <@Shadow_Rider> People will understand if you need to use a save file if that happens 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3566 23:41 whens esa 23:43 <@luxidream> https://esamarathon.com/schedule/ 23:43 <@luxidream> starts Friday 23:43 <@luxidream> I play next Tuesday 23:44 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1278, rt[0:05:40] 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2612 points, T:3742, killed by a soldier ant 23:49 sehr gut 23:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2300, rt[0:11:14] 23:49 woo excal 23:50 gogogo 23:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 fixed stone helm of speed", on T:933 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:42733 23:57 couple questions: do you use the key to move without autopicking up items? do you use the key to run without autopicking up items? 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2068 23:58 <@Shadow_Rider> paxed who you talking to 23:58 -!- wbn has joined #hardfought 23:58 that was for anyone who might be here 23:59 i don't understand what the question means 23:59 <@luxidream> control+move not automatically picking up items is a bit annoying, but I don't use it specifically to avoid picking up items 23:59 ^ 23:59 huh i never noticed that it doesn't autopickup when you control+move 23:59 I only tend to use the former and then only when trying to avoid footrice corpses