00:00 i think i can do better 00:00 i took a shower partway thru 00:01 <@luxidream> ah yes the classic speedrunner move 00:02 ^^; 00:02 got a new pb tho :3 00:03 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1506, rt[0:03:44] 00:03 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:1998, rt[0:04:13] 00:04 <@luxidream> yay 00:04 <@luxidream> will you submit to src? 00:04 <@luxidream> I can approve it right now 00:04 ya 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 369 points, T:2950, killed by a gnome zombie, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 00:05 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2648, rt[0:06:09] 00:09 <@luxidream> shadowrider wasn't there priest of tyr back there? 00:09 <@luxidream> make holy water 00:12 GG tommo 00:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:26535 00:16 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6363, rt[0:17:14] 00:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:29505 00:20 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Mal Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Tyr, on T:7678, rt[0:21:05] 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Misha (Inf Ith Mal Una), 970 points, T:1463, killed by an orc zombie 00:29 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:11874, rt[0:29:38] 00:30 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 cursed genocide named flip???", on T:12301, rt[0:31:08] 00:31 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Mal Law), 29572 points, T:12344, [0:31:41], quit 00:31 <@luxidream> rekt 00:31 <@luxidream> 3 geno reasons 00:31 <@Shadow_Rider> thats unreal 00:31 <@luxidream> 3 geno is coin flip 00:31 <@luxidream> 2 geno is 66% 00:31 <@Shadow_Rider> lol i should've just kept going 00:32 <@luxidream> yea why did you quit lol 00:32 <@Shadow_Rider> im easily discouraged 00:33 <@luxidream> rip 00:34 <@Shadow_Rider> thats what separates you and me 00:34 <@Shadow_Rider> i only know what to do when everything goes my way :p 00:38 -!- Lymia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 00:45 -!- Lymia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 00:48 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2759 01:00 <@luxidream> !rng run again | sleepers 01:00 @luxidream: sleepers 01:00 <@luxidream> ok 01:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:02 nite 01:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:04 <@Shadow_Rider> I don’t trust it 01:05 <@Shadow_Rider> Lux has listened to beholder never 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3173 01:10 <@luxidream> !rng reconsider | go to sleep idiot 01:10 @luxidream: reconsider 01:10 <@luxidream> ok 01:22 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 01:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Scout, on T:37111 01:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4284 01:34 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1228 points, T:57, killed by a kobold 01:42 -!- ssnufd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:44 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 01:51 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 25201 points, T:1286, killed by a gnome lord 01:52 rip 02:00 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a clay golem, on T:6599 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:6831 02:10 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:27964 02:10 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28011 02:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn (Bin Inc Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:12490 02:11 Artifact specs: completely prevents its contents from getting wet, even if it's cursed. 02:11 nice 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:7505 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:7610 02:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed desertgreg's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:7689 02:18 Artifact specs: +2 to-hit and double damage. dammit who blessed my run 02:18 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7640 points, T:268, killed by a grid bug 02:23 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 02:27 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 10240 points, T:403, killed by a jackal 02:27 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:39 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- Amyflueschlie has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 02:40 NetSysFire: hard to gauge how good that double damage artifact is without knowing the base type ;) 02:40 bfg, doomguys wet dream 02:40 did you see that bug i found regarding that light source thing? 02:40 its a real one this time! 02:40 haha, good luck finding ammo! 02:41 yes, that bug is known, not sure how to fix it but it doesnt seem to affect anything 02:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7691 points, T:6118, killed by a leocrotta 02:47 whats your recommended slex ascension kit? 02:49 uhh theres way too many items for that 02:50 just mix and match what you find :P try to get the important extrinsics covered and stack AC 02:52 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:56 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 32756 points, T:11598, killed by a stone giant 02:57 -!- AntiVirus has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:59 train arrived, maybe its mine? if I go to board it my connection will certainly drop :P 03:04 -!- Amyflueschlie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:11 rip 03:20 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:24 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:26 <@Earth Traveler> enters DL6 of the mines 03:26 <@Earth Traveler> "You sense a faint wave of psychic energy." 03:26 <@Earth Traveler> ... 03:31 You finish eating the cave spider corpse. You feel healthy. 03:31 love it when those 7% surprises come 03:32 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:43 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 8 points, T:73, killed by an arrow 03:45 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2219 03:45 -!- Guest2219 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 03:45 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 03:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1689 points, T:1866, killed by a giant bat, while sleeping 03:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 117 points, T:390, killed by a kobold, while reading a book 03:49 -!- entuland has joined #hardfought 03:49 The RNG hath decreed that this item is generated more often: cloak of death (deadly cloak, freq bonus 11). thanks RNG 03:49 !lastgame desertgreg 03:49 ssnufd: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/desertgreg/nethack/dumplog/1626471027.nh.html 03:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 313 points, T:827, killed by a sewer rat 03:53 It kill you, NetSysFire 03:53 ? 03:53 haha nice 03:54 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 2931 points, T:657, killed by a boulder 03:54 Umbire: yes 03:54 instadeath unless magic resistant 03:54 see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Item_(Slash%27EM_Extended) 03:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:54 'course 03:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Cerberus, on T:21161 03:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2194 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 474 points, T:2501, killed by a gnome lady 04:05 slex is a very fair and balanced game 04:05 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:06 who of you is a wiki master again? https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Slash%27EM_Extended still lists freenode 04:12 Donezo 04:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:28858 04:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10490 04:32 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:39 [hdf-au] [slex] asdf (Div Ame Mal Cha), 17940 points, T:8603, poisoned by a bilge rat 04:51 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:26132 05:01 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 05:01 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:06 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:10 [hdf-au] [xnh] cccrow (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:2537 05:11 !who 05:11 cccrow: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [xnh] elenmirie [evil] | [hdf-au] asdf [slex] cccrow [xnh] 05:19 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:23 [hdf-au] [xnh] cccrow (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3711 points, T:3246, killed by a wand, while frozen by a potion 05:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:27 there's no gnoll on au server? 05:29 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:33 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 12770 points, T:676, killed by a system shock 05:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:34 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1382 points, T:8, quit 05:38 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: later] 05:38 -!- wbn has joined #hardfought 05:41 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Excavator, on T:27421 05:52 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:28098 05:53 [hdf-us] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 28900 points, T:797, killed by an Uruk-hai 06:09 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 127529 points, T:29552, killed by a mumak 06:09 argh, died of one-more-hit syndrome 06:10 I thought I'd put that mumak to sleep 06:12 [hdf-us] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5527 points, T:33, killed by a kobold 06:20 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2842 06:27 <@Earth Traveler> i set my pickaxe down for one second and a rock mole comes by and eats it 06:27 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 23430 points, T:652, killed by a hill orc 06:33 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:39 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) became Camaxtli's Envoy of Balance, on T:20979 06:42 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 4461 points, T:3675, killed by a mumak 07:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 819 points, T:2629, killed by a giant bat 07:04 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Esp Fem Law) killed Grund the Orc King, on T:27423 07:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:8228 07:10 !tell LarienTelrunya how bad is wearing an ether item again? 07:10 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, amateurhour. 07:16 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:20 !who 07:20 K2: [hdf-us] ssnufd [nh370] post163 [spl] | [hdf-eu] Graznop [nh370] mobileuser [sp] amateurhour [slex] elenmirie [evil] | [hdf-au] asdf [slex] Arahael [evil] 07:21 !tell LarienTelrunya I'm pretty sure there's no portal to pacman challenge in this game :/ 07:21 I'm on it, amateurhour. 07:21 !whereis omghax 07:21 amateurhour: omghax is not playing. 07:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:9691 07:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:57466 07:34 "Artifact specs: its enchantment will occasionally go up if you hit something with it." 07:34 j - a darkness club named Need Elite Upgrade {7} 07:35 sounds op 07:37 nice 07:38 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1380 points, T:3018, killed by a giant spider, while taking off clothes 07:44 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 07:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:58204 07:52 [hdf-au] [slex] asdf (Tos Hrb Mal Cha) obtained the Sokoban prize, on T:7089 07:53 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 18217 points, T:1064, killed by a little dog 07:56 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:58 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 6111 points, T:1066, killed by a water moccasin 08:03 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Esp Fem Law), 421743 points, T:29647, killed by a hemorrhage 08:03 eww man 08:03 !lastgame amateurhour 08:03 amateurhour: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1626204379.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1626450312.slex.txt 08:03 this game 08:03 oh wait 08:03 [hdf-au] [slex] asdf (Tos Hrb Mal Cha), 22175 points, T:7209, killed by a monster (joust bounder) 08:04 hemorrhage, not hemorrhoids 08:04 lmfao 08:04 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 12427 points, T:242, killed by a fox 08:05 something farted at me which paralysed me, then it kept farting adding more and more status effects including hemorrhaging and I just had to watch myself slowly die 08:06 "Not Too Many Unfair Deaths" in the slex design manifesto btw 08:06 killed by dangerous winds 08:06 [hdf-au] [nh4] Eri (wbn) (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 7224 points, T:133, killed by a newt 08:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:9439 08:07 currently in hour 2 of 8 on our train ride to vienna 08:08 plenty of time to ascend then 08:08 yes but no 08:08 german IT infrastructure is already shit, and its even worse in the trains 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9568 08:18 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:18 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "+2 blessed fixed dragonbane", on T:11707 08:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 30857 points, T:11714, killed by a bolt of lightning 08:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:37 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:39 * NetSysFire zaps a wand of cancellation at the train 08:47 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:49 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:52 [hdf-au] [slex] asdf (Cel Bas Mal Cha), 8305 points, T:1507, killed by bleedout 08:52 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:53 amateurhour: well it slowly contaminates you 08:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2021-07-17 07:10 EDT: how bad is wearing an ether item again? 08:53 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2021-07-17 07:21 EDT: I'm pretty sure there's no portal to pacman challenge in this game :/ 08:56 the pacman portal was probably on the one square you didn't check ;) 08:59 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 5673 points, T:1292, killed by a newt 09:00 [hdf-au] [slex] asdf (Mam Sok Mal Cha), 12450 points, T:6, killed by a monster (ant) 09:02 I am noticing a lack of gnollhackiness on hdf-eu 09:03 like play of it existing? 09:05 Demo: the variant isn't on hdf-eu 09:06 [hdf-us] [gnoll] FIQ (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:24, killed by a falling object 09:06 only on US 09:06 K2: I suggest gnh as shorthand 09:06 shorter 09:06 and more in line with other variants 09:07 !lastgame fiq 09:07 FIQ: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/F/FIQ/gnollhack/dumplog/1626431348.gnoll.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/F/FIQ/gh/dumplog/1624899713.gh.txt 09:09 "Your strength was 15 (limit:18/100): +2 to-hit bonus and +5 damage bonus." nice how the effects of the attribute stat display in the dumplog too 09:09 i'm putting it on eu and au this morning 09:09 cool 09:09 sticking with gnoll 09:09 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) had a sling named Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:23273 09:09 I've considered stealing gnollhack's MC system 09:09 there's already gh 09:09 K2: very wel 09:10 gnh is too close 09:10 sling??? 09:10 very well 09:10 spl vs sp 09:10 i know 09:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:43713 09:10 the multitude of vanilla variants and nh4 09:10 * K2 shrugs 09:10 dyn vs dnh 09:11 * K2 continues to shrug 09:11 sorry :P 09:11 just pointing out that I found your reasoning a bit odd 09:11 but you do you 09:11 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 5331 points, T:1043, killed by a rothe 09:11 * K2 shrugs one last time 09:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:43718 09:12 we need to make a proposal for variant developers to come up with more interesting names :P there are many letters in the alphabet that have not a single variant starting with it 09:12 K2: also I'd argue that if anything, *grunt* would need to change since "gnh" isn't ambiguous, but "gh" is 09:12 Oh well 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:11566 09:13 hm 09:13 aoei isn't around 09:13 was going to ask her if she is the current master of xd.cm 09:13 given that kerio is apparently decommissioning asc.run and I know he was the original owner of xd.cm 09:14 !tell aoei if you aren't the current master of xd.cm, perhaps you ought to become so? given that ascrun (the original owners of xd.cm) has terminated continued service of NetHack variants, and only hosts historical data atm 09:14 I'm on it, FIQ. 09:16 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3564 didn't realize evil monsters could wish for artifacts 09:19 also if I'm reading the evil code right, what happened in that quote has a 1/5832 chance of happening assuming arti generation failure chance is 100% (and it shouldn't be) 09:22 Amy I remember why I wasn't spellcasting as a spirit, there's not enough food to do it 09:23 -!- Pebble has joined #hardfought 09:23 also screw paralysis 09:24 yeah food can be an issue, but if you play sokosolver you'll find plenty 09:24 !winrate 09:24 spirit, not wraith 09:24 !ascrate 09:24 !asc 09:24 FIQ: [hdf-us] FIQ has ascended 4 times in 626 games (0.64%): gh:1 (2.78%), fh:2 (1.09%), 4k:1 (0.52%) | [hdf-eu] FIQ has ascended 5 times in 921 games (0.54%): nh4:1 (2.70%), gh:1 (3.12%), xnh:1 (6.67%), dyn:1 (5.00%), 4k:1 (3.03%) | [hdf-au] FIQ has not ascended in 3 games. 09:25 spirits have phasing, pairing them with sokosolver seems like a really bad idea lol 09:25 that doesn't sound right 09:25 surely I've ascended more than that 09:25 oh I guess most of my older ascensions were pre-hdf 09:29 can anyone help diagnose why the following menucolor line gives an error that it is "malformed?" 09:29 MENUCOLOR="(the|an?) (blessed |uncursed )?([a-z]*proof )?((very |thoroughly )?(burnt|rusty) )?([+-][0-9] )?(.* named )?([A-Z][a-z]*bane|Cleaver|Excalibur|Eye of the Aethiopica|Eyes of the Overworld|(Fire|Frost) Brand|Giantslayer|Grayswandir|Grimtooth|Heart of Ahriman|Longbow of Diana|Magic Mirror of Merlin|Master Key of Thievery|Mitre of 09:29 Holiness|Mjollnir|Ogresmasher|Orb of (Detection|Fate)|Orcrist|Sceptre of Might|Snickersnee|Staff of Aesculapius|Sting|Stormbringer|Sunsword|The Platinum Yendorian Express Card|Tsurugi of Muramasa|Vorpal Blade)"=magenta 09:29 meant to match any noncursed artifact obv 09:30 !who 09:30 K2: [hdf-us] ssnufd [nh370] dgoddard [gh] tinklebear [evil] | [hdf-eu] Saxtheowl [nh370] omghax [gnoll] | [hdf-au] wbn [4k] 09:31 [hdf-eu] [gnoll] omghax (Sam Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:33, killed by a falling object 09:32 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 09:32 alright gnollhack is up on hdf-eu 09:32 working on au 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11728 09:36 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:40 heh, DCSS renamed magic resistance to willpower 09:40 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7243 points, T:3924, killed by a soldier ant 09:40 which is the same term fh uses for monMR :P 09:40 K2: cool :) 09:40 k2: what's your reaction to this? https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3564 09:41 i saw that 09:41 peacefuls arent supposed to rummage through containers 09:41 seems wrong on several levels 09:42 i think its a change qt implemented to make your pets make decisions about gear in a smarter way 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12196 09:42 Pebble: is there a reason you don't replace the various conditionals with .* ? it's not really going to conflict with anything as long as you keep the artiname matching 09:42 <@Earth Traveler> based on that quote it makes them make decisions in a dumber way 09:43 peacefuls don't pick up things. pets do though 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:12214 09:43 ah right 09:43 I guess not but I did just try wiping the conditionals and it's still malformed 09:43 <@Earth Traveler> plus it was a species of troll 09:43 <@Earth Traveler> so you know 09:43 heh 09:43 then no, i dont see anything wrong there 09:44 my guess would be mismatched parantheses 09:44 picking it up, no. taking out the wand, not supposed to happen 09:44 sure it is 09:44 try replace detection/fate with 2 seperate match possibilities 09:44 idk if it supports nesting brackets 09:44 intelligent monsters (hostile or pet) will use containers 09:44 that's nothing new 09:44 also your thing is not going to work on the PYEC 09:45 the only thing wrong in that scenario is that the player left a wand of wishing unattended 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 147 points, T:390, killed by a hobbit 09:45 K2: pets should not use wands of wishing 09:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:43837 09:45 unless explicitly given by the player 09:45 <@Earth Traveler> K2 adds code to let monsters wish for scrolls of genocide to genocide the player with 09:45 imo 09:46 -!- Saxtheow1 has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:46 what fiq said 09:46 except trolls 09:46 fh pets will avoid using wishing sources, and if it does end up with one by accident, will ask the player (this part might be too nice for evil, but the former ought to be in evil too) 09:46 pets should give the WoW to their master 09:46 actually monsters can and do wish for scrolls of genocide and will try to genocide your race 09:46 hothraxxa not in evilhack 09:47 in fiqhack maybe 09:47 or grunt 09:47 not in fh 09:47 grunt monsters don't use geno at al 09:47 *at all 09:47 definitely used to be true in fiqhack, that's where i encountered it 09:47 fh monsters do use geno 09:47 but it will not instakill a non-polymorphed player 09:47 <@Earth Traveler> don't they mostly use it against "grudge" enemies though 09:48 right. "that shall not be done" 09:48 fh monsters first look for hostile targets 09:48 this includes you and any of your pets 09:48 took out the nested brackets on the orbs and Brands, and simplified the banes to just match "bane", and it still claims to be malformed 09:48 if there isn't anything, or if that geno fails 09:48 it will then proceed to genocide things they grudge 09:48 maybe there's a limit to how many possible matches you can put in brackets?> 09:48 and if *that* fails, they'll give up 09:48 not genociding anything 09:49 fh monsters will also, if they know the scroll is cursed, revgeno nasties 09:50 <@Earth Traveler> is it possible for them to not know the scroll is cursed? 09:50 Pebble: I do know it does support brackets since I use those myself in my configs, but idk if they have a limit on amount of possibilities 09:50 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:50 @Earth Travel it is 09:50 monsters always know base item 09:50 but they don't know BUC, charges, enchantment 09:51 and have to learn it just like players 09:51 <@Earth Traveler> hm okay 09:51 that's what they use ID scrolls for 09:51 shopkeepers and priests will avoid using potions of gain level 09:51 if they don't know BUC 09:51 actually that probably just applies to shopkeepers because I think aligned priests know BUC innately 09:52 shopkeepers are guranteed to know the id spell though 09:52 so if they do get potions of gain level, they'll ID it and then drink them if noncursed 09:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "ring of teleport control", on T:43861 09:53 @Earth Traveler monsters not knowing BUC or enchantment is most obvious by virtue of them wielding cursed weapons and the fact that they will zap wands at 0 charges (possibly wresting them) because they don't know it's empty 09:53 (they will learn the latter after they realize it didn't work, of course) 09:54 they also try to avoid charging wands they don't know charge count on 09:54 in favour of charging empty ones 09:54 or just saving the scrolls if they have nothing with empty charges 09:55 iirc the message when monsters zap empty wands is "The hill orc zaps a wand of striking! But nothing happens..." 09:55 this is also the one time monsters invoke the tooled horn effect, frightening the player 09:56 I didn't want them to use it in general because for players, frightening is a paralysis 09:56 so until I bother changing how player scaring works, monsters don't use it as a rule 09:58 paralysis is pretty deadly to the player 09:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:00 some variants add loads more ways for players to get paralysed 10:00 * amateurhour looks at slex 10:00 works as intended :P 10:00 and slex nerfs the only counter to it as well 10:00 slex adds a second counter: discount action 10:00 how many games have you found it in 10:00 I've seen discount action twice 10:01 lol I didn't count that 10:02 Not Too Many Unfair Deaths, High Headroom :^) 10:02 just quoting from the design document 10:02 are you implying that's not the case? 10:02 get para -> die 10:03 this is really weird 10:03 getting this in the syslog when a game of gnollhack starts on hdf-au 10:03 kernel: [1337051.025544] traps: gnollhack[30649] trap invalid opcode ip:7f99c39c9baf sp:7ffc976ce608 error:0 in libm.so.6[7f99c3977000+108000] 10:03 whack 10:04 you start a new game, pick race/role, go to pick difficulty and bam 10:04 kicks you back to dgl main menu 10:04 bizarre 10:04 exact same compile on hdf-eu, no issues there 10:05 solar flares? 10:05 seems weird to happen in libm though 10:06 never seen this before 10:08 it's like glibc is detecting support for an architecture the cpu doesn't actually support 10:08 or something 10:08 i have an idea 10:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:45213 10:14 <@FIQ> K2: clearly the gnh code is self-aware, saw your reservations about it and is retaliating 10:17 that didnt work 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 137 points, T:789, killed by a sewer rat, while sleeping 10:25 [hdf-au] [slshm] asdf (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 2351 points, T:1545, killed by a rope golem 10:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:27 !who 10:27 K2: [hdf-us] Pebble [nh370] ssnufd [nh370] dgoddard [gh] hothraxxa [gh] whatever [xnh] | [hdf-eu] tromix [nh370] Saxtheowl [nh370] mobileuser [sp] engelson [dyn] | [hdf-au] asdf [slex] 10:32 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:12512 10:35 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 10:36 -!- Saxtheow1 has joined #hardfought 10:38 -!- honu_ is now known as honu 10:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:46920 10:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Cav Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3348 10:42 [hdf-au] [slex] asdf (Gan Gro Mal Neu), 576 points, T:903, killed by a monster (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon), while praying unsuccessfully 10:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Cav Gno Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:3556 10:45 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:45 [hdf-eu] [sp] mobileuser (Arc Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24624 10:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3697 10:49 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 10:50 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:47697 10:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 3125 points, T:3753, killed by a jaguar 10:56 "Artifact specs: no specialties." 10:56 wow 10:57 would be nice if you told us what the artifact is 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3312 11:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:05 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:06 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Tou Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1938 11:06 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:07 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3710 11:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 11:13 <@Shadow_Rider> Is there an equivalent to #terrain in slex? 11:13 no, however farlooking something may tell you what terrain it's on 11:14 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 11:14 <@Shadow_Rider> Whaat 11:15 ? 11:15 converted an altar, demons opened a gate, Electronir is here 11:15 @le?Electronir 11:15 Electronir (&) | Lvl: 66 | Diff: 75 | Spd: 20 | Res: fire disintegrate shock poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: unique | AC: -6 | Attacks: 6d8 weapon immobilizing-destroying, 6d8 weapon immobilizing-destroying, 6d6 lashing immobilizing-destroying, 6d6 gaze shock, 0d6 passive shock, 8d8 breath shock | Alignment: -20 | Flags: omnivore, swims, seeinvis, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous 11:15 luckily hes peaceful 11:15 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:16 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 11:16 <@Shadow_Rider> _> is my baby 11:16 <@Shadow_Rider> and _< 11:16 you can still do that as long as the stair is visible; if it's obscured, it's highlighted red 11:16 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh ok 11:17 -!- hackedhead has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:17 <@Shadow_Rider> That’s is helpful 11:17 -!- hackedhead has joined #hardfought 11:17 alright 11:17 i bet i will hear "works as inteded" 11:18 "It reads: "Hawaiian T-Shits Just Suck!", there is no sic over that line in the source 11:18 lol 11:20 shadow rider if the stairs glyph gets deleted for any reason (happens a lot as sokosolver) then _> will never find it 11:20 and if there's no item on top of it it doesn't appear at all 11:20 amateurhour: totally works as intended :P 11:20 <@Shadow_Rider> Yes this irks me slightly 11:20 why on earth would _> go to a tile that isn't a > glyph? makes no sense at all 11:20 <@Shadow_Rider> But the red highlight makes it fine I guess 11:22 well the real bug is that the stairs glyph can be deleted 11:22 w o r k s a s i n t e n d e d :D 11:22 if there's nothing in the square except for the stairs then why is there no glyph for the stairs 11:22 LarienTelrunya: k - the uncursed hairclip named Hair Bracket {0} this is the artifact without specialties 11:22