00:04 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: later] 00:16 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 00:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:37 <@Earth Traveler> can someone please explain to me everything i need to do to add a new trap to my variant 00:38 iunno the process but I'm curious what trap you're adding 00:39 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 00:40 <@Earth Traveler> well i'm adding a poisoned spike pit that's like a spiked pit, but always poisoned (and also can't appear before DL 8), and making it so the spiked pit can never be poisoned 00:41 ...wha 00:41 So you're trying to make an always-poisoned spike pit 00:41 <@Earth Traveler> yeah 00:41 But you're trying to remove the thing that give normal spike pits a chance to be poisoned 00:42 <@Earth Traveler> yeah 00:42 So as to not have it interfere 00:42 think I got it, just parsed weird 00:43 <@Earth Traveler> yeah it's just to reduce the rng 00:43 <@Earth Traveler> i mean if you don't have poison resistance in vanilla, every fall into a spiked pit has a 1/60 chance of instadeath 00:43 And you'd rather there be a poison pit outright 00:43 cut out the middleman 00:44 ? 00:44 <@Earth Traveler> yeah, that appears later, so you actually have a shot at having poison resistance 00:44 Righto 00:44 Sensible approach 00:44 Considering that now for my variant 00:44 At the least I'd make it so each pit is like 00:44 consistently poisoned 00:45 rather than the same pit suddenly giving you like, rust infection the third time you accidentally fall in 00:45 -!- Agrius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:46 <@Earth Traveler> my problem is, the devteam appears to have made the process of adding a trap as complicated as humanly possible 00:47 oh no 00:48 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 817 points, T:856, killed by a hobbit, while praying 00:50 <@riker> yeah traps are awful 00:50 <@riker> I recommend finding the various names that traps are ID'd as and grepping the source for all instances 00:51 <@riker> remember to make sure it gets added to like the screen drawing code 00:51 <@riker> and the places that control which random special level traps are placed different is from random non-special level traps iirc though 3.7 may have changed that 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Pri Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a giant ant), on T:951 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:71001 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:71008 00:56 i love being a priest and then i can wear random unIDed amulets 00:57 -!- agrius has joined #hardfought 00:59 (if only i wasn't so squishy) 00:59 or had like, any offense at all 01:01 low STR? 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 425 points, T:1579, killed by a bat 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1543 points, T:2883, killed by a bolt of cold 01:14 [hdf-us] [dyn] Goka (gokajern) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 377 points, T:3913, killed by a giant beetle 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 608 points, T:1040, killed by a bolt of cold 01:14 <@Earth Traveler> thanks for leaving your crappy bones file to kill me too Misha 😦 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] sleepless (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:11838 01:19 [hdf-us] [dyn] Goka (gokajern) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 167 points, T:673, killed by a fox 01:22 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:8479 01:34 [hdf-us] [dyn] Goka (gokajern) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 329 points, T:1519, killed by a large cat called Snuggalotte 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:2055 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3135 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3427 01:51 -!- agrius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3770 01:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3914 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3934 01:57 Earth Traveler: you're welcome 😼 01:58 * Umbire noms on misha's ear 01:58 careful, i'm extra spiky today 02:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 6994 points, T:4991, quit 02:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:9590 02:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:812 02:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:45 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:49 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Kni Hum Mal Law), 363 points, T:1037, killed by a bolt of cold 02:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:59 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2319, rt[0:09:09] 03:05 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:18764 03:44 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:44 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:46 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 03:51 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:11311 03:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 03:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:12 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Minetown, on T:3616, rt[0:20:39] 04:12 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3652, rt[0:20:56] 04:13 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:3686, rt[0:21:28] 04:17 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4101, rt[0:26:19] 04:18 -!- tacco has quit [] 04:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:20849 04:32 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.1] 04:32 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:72360 04:36 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:44 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 4199 points, T:6534, killed by a gnomish wizard 04:46 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:50 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1106, rt[0:06:32] 04:51 <@Earth Traveler> ugh this trap still won't work 04:52 <@Earth Traveler> i have to have written it everywhere needed to define a trap but wizmode still says it doesn't exist 04:52 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 545 points, T:1171, killed by a boulder 04:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14010 04:56 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 148 points, T:585, killed by a small mimic 04:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:59 You sure it's everywhere? 05:00 including readobjnam for wizard wishing? 05:00 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1108, rt[0:04:09] 05:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20984 05:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) had a magical dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:28926 05:05 <@Earth Traveler> which readobjnam? 05:07 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 05:16 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Minetown, on T:2699, rt[0:19:39] 05:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15313 05:19 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:27 <@Earth Traveler> okay i think i found it, but it doesn't say anything about specific traps 05:27 <@Earth Traveler> and i can wish for every other trap in wizmode 05:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 126 points, T:225, killed by a fox 05:42 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2339 points, T:3859, killed by a dwarf 05:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Scout, on T:20131 05:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1030 points, T:2175, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 05:58 LarienTelrunya: would you item genocide scrolls of destroy armor? 05:58 probably not 05:58 once you have magic resistance, you're highly resistant to monster-read ones anyway 05:58 you can only item geno one thing so root pw detection or a particularly annoying pair of shoes is what I do 05:59 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1838, rt[0:16:36] 05:59 oh you can only genocide one thing, i didnt know that 06:00 how would you protect the shield of reflection i have? 06:00 protect it from what? 06:00 better expect to lose it at some point 06:01 you can grease it and make it invisible to reduce its chance of being taken by grabby handed annoyances 06:01 or something 06:01 my chars usually lose those to disintegration beams, because reflection isn't 100% guaranteed to work 06:01 how about disintegration resis? 06:02 yes, if you can obtain that 06:02 you'll probs lose disint res in one of the demon lairs 06:02 shortly before the demon lord uses disint on you 06:03 imho one of the best shields you can use is the black dragonhide shield 06:03 good luck finding that though 06:03 sounds op 06:04 -!- entuland has joined #hardfought 06:04 i just discovered a speaker and: 06:05 According to some SLEX players (or one should rather say former players), the interface screw traps are fake difficulty. But they're working as intended, since 06:05 this is a game where everything is trying to kill you. And 'everything' includes the interface. Yeah, other nethack forks don't do that, but this isn't 06:05 'another nethack fork', it's the MEME nethack fork! :P 06:05 slex is a meme confirmed and canon 06:08 <@Earth Traveler> I KNEW IT 06:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] cccrow (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3871 06:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] cccrow (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3888 06:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] cccrow (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of riding boots on an altar, on T:3895 06:13 <@Earth Traveler> speaking of which: amy, you've managed to insert a bunch of ridiculous traps into your variant, while i can't figure out how to get this one simple trap into mine 06:13 steal the code from slex then :P but who knows what the 3.7 devs did to the code structure 06:13 i stepped onto a shades of grey trap, but the effect wore off and *some* of the terrain is still grey even when i am in the area 06:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] cccrow (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3916 06:14 ctrl-r :P 06:14 <@Earth Traveler> actually the fix i'd recommend is '#quit' 06:15 LarienTelrunya: thats a bug, the screen should be redrawn when the effect wears off 06:15 you cant tell me thats not a bug 06:16 hahaha 06:16 you can make any bug intentional with just a small change of mindset 06:16 it's a nasty trap, you're not supposed to get help from the game to determine whether it's still going on! :P 06:16 see 06:16 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 06:16 i just had an idea 06:17 invent the curse of table flip, which may just erase tables you step upon 06:17 since they are usually beneficial 06:17 what do you usually use tables for? 06:17 stand on it and you get bonuses for fighting 06:18 LarienTelrunya: seriously though its not going anymore if new terrain or items suddenly are being drawn in color, its trivial to check if its still going on 06:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] cccrow (Val Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:4070 06:18 like do you lure monsters over to a table specifically for that bonus? 06:18 NetSysFire: well then you did figure out that it ended, grats :D 06:19 i think the game screwed me over and i cant proceed 06:20 theres a circular room on dlvl 3 and no doors and i cant find any 06:20 try panic digging 06:20 even if i search 20 times on each tile 06:20 and theres mysterious force 06:20 it worked 06:20 also why do you always play like a madman 06:21 what do you mean by madman? 06:21 like, so frickin fast that you don't even see what is going on 06:22 thats mandatory for the break all doors conduct 06:23 move fast, flip tables, break doors 06:25 <@Earth Traveler> stealing code from slex wouldn't help because i would have no idea where to even steal from 06:25 lol 06:25 <@Earth Traveler> i've written stuff about this trap in like 5 different files 06:25 <@Earth Traveler> and the game won't even acknowledge its existence 06:25 well, does the trap exist in trap.h (if that's still a thing in 3.7)? 06:26 ugh the mere thought of basing my variant on 3.7 makes me shudder 06:26 lol 06:26 <@Earth Traveler> yep trap.h 06:26 also the trap needs to be in drawing.c 06:26 <@Earth Traveler> effect defined in trap.c 06:26 <@Earth Traveler> got it there already 06:26 <@Earth Traveler> also did rm.h and tilemap.c 06:26 drawing.c is where you set the name, and wishing for it uses the name there 06:26 what did you call the trap? 06:27 <@Earth Traveler> poisoned spike pit 06:27 <@Earth Traveler> and i can't wish for it 06:27 loooooool 06:28 yeah good luck getting the parser to recognize that 06:28 it thinks you're trying to wish for the item named "spike pit" (which doesn't exist, obviously) and apply poison to it, like "poisoned orcish arrow" 06:28 <@Earth Traveler> dammit 06:30 <@Earth Traveler> poisonOUS spike pit should be fine right? 06:31 yes, as long as you avoid the string "poisoned" 06:31 also this only affects wishing anyway, which you can't do outside of wizmode :P 06:32 <@Earth Traveler> right 06:35 <@Earth Traveler> thanks for the help 06:36 yw :) 06:38 Artifact specs: +6 damage and protection bonus when wielded. 06:39 what base type? 06:40 oh lol a paddle 06:49 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:49 sounds op 06:50 wait, why is my inventory in descecending order? 06:51 wait, i thought it was dsc. 06:51 d,c,a,b 06:52 LarienTelrunya: i think the vanishing thing just happened, just a few turns ago 06:53 bah, should have told me when it happened, not after :P 06:53 T6054 is what i am on now, i attacked the unalignment thing and i am pretty sure i saw it happen 06:53 are they visible on your screen in the first place? they're black, maybe your terminal is set such that it doesn't display the black color correctly 06:53 i hope you forgive me for this heinous crime 06:54 yes, they are visible and the thing just vanished when there was a multi line message 06:54 does it happen only for black-colored monsters? 06:54 i use alacritty here because kitty doesnt handle bold black correctly but i dont think thats it tbh 06:55 will look into it later, gotta mop up this ahl game real quick first 06:55 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:57 LarienTelrunya: alright watch it i think it happens again 06:57 !who 06:57 cccrow: [hdf-us] grumlin [nh370] Pebble [nh370] | [hdf-eu] Singhend [un] NetSysFire [slex] Raisse [xnh] attie [spl] elenmirie [evil] | [hdf-au] cccrow [xnh] 06:57 tell me when i should advance, the monster should become visible 06:57 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:57 huh so you mean the monster is invisible right now? 06:57 is it next to you? 06:57 yes, but when i advance the message it will become visible and yes 06:58 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 06:58 see? now its there 06:58 oh it's that green % 06:58 what was the action you did on that turn? 06:58 moving 06:58 wtf 06:58 i moved into the square and it attacked me 06:58 sometimes attacking it also triggers it 06:58 and yes I also saw that the monster wasn't displayed 06:59 it's not a bug it's a bonus feature 06:59 [hdf-eu] [slex] NetSysFire (Gla Dev Fem Cha) killed Dango San-kyodai, on T:6353 06:59 yeah the ttyrec shows that the unalignment thing became invisible as well 06:59 it only happens when there is the multiline message thing (--More--) 06:59 weird, don't think I've seen that effect before 07:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:28392 07:00 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Minetown, on T:3404, rt[0:35:37] 07:00 what are your hybrid races again? bossrusher and...? haxor? 07:00 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3444, rt[0:36:00] 07:01 yes 07:01 i did the ctrl+x thing for you 07:01 weird, can't seem to reproduce locally 07:02 it doesnt happen every time, so you probably either want to have a monster with a long name or a lot of ego types or a weapon with a long name 07:03 oh you're somehow hiding underneath items? 07:03 what's the randomized appearance of your helmet? 07:03 its just a helmet 07:03 ...please 07:03 use the in-game item description 07:04 nah not so fast man! 07:04 Wearing this helmet allows you to hide underneath items by moving onto them. A standard helmet that can be worn for protection. 07:04 yes but that's the description, not the name of the randomized appearance 07:04 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3566, rt[0:39:56] 07:04 gah just display the first page of the description please! 07:04 * helmet (secret helmet) 07:04 ah 07:04 thanks, will test again 07:04 <@Earth Traveler> not that secret i guess 07:05 also til that a "plain" helmet can have these possibly adverse effects 07:05 nah, doesn't seem to happen for my test char even when I wish for a secret helmet and wear that 07:05 wondering if it might be something else that you have equipped 07:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:73360 07:05 and yeah in slex the randomized appearances of armor pieces can have effects, good or bad 07:06 oh 07:06 are you searching before taking each step? and you possibly searched when those monsters were next to you too? 07:07 possibly 07:07 here i have my inv open if you want to take a look 07:07 because if you search by pressing s, all the monsters next to you aren't displayed until the end of the turn (works as intended) 07:08 I need to know *exactly* whether you did in fact search when the whatevermold or dangosankyodai were next to you, because if you did, that's the explanation 07:08 do you have autosearching 07:08 no 07:08 pretty sure i didnt do that with the latter monster, its very possible i did it with the first one 07:08 you shouldn't be so imprecise when reporting bugs, just saying "I moved next to the monster and it attacked" wasn't what happened, but "I moved, then searched and the monster was attacking me" was :P 07:09 you can easily reproduce the effect by pressing s while next to monsters (just don't get yourself pulverized by doing it when the monsters are dangerous) 07:10 why do monsters disappear when you search? 07:10 well i could be more precise if there was some sort of debug mode or log one could enable 07:13 amateurhour: not sure, but I had to fiddle with things to make searching work properly because in vanilla it doesn't :P if you're not blind, vanilla searching doesn't mark your adjacent squares as seen! 07:13 and yes, in vanilla that never matters because there's no nasty traps that could result in those squares not being marked as seen anyway, but in slex there are 07:13 so it's a bug still 07:14 nah I decided to call that a feature 07:14 lol 07:14 also autosearching will change the shading of squares it searches, which helps you determine that you do have autosearching 07:16 o - a finalized scroll labeled YASD GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK {0}. 07:16 read it without fear 07:17 it was teleportation 07:17 lucky, could also have been destroy armor :D 07:17 [hdf-eu] [slex] NetSysFire (Gla Dev Fem Cha) killed Sebastian, on T:7353 07:20 <@Earth Traveler> @le?sebastian 07:20 Sebastian (j) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 5 | Res: disintegrate petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 5 | Generates: unique | AC: 6 | Attacks: 2d3 weapon physical, 2d3 kick stun | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, stalker, vegan 07:20 Some pink sweets which are supposed to have a color-specific effect but someone forgot to code that part into the game. 07:21 it's annoying that not all food even tells you whether its vegan 07:21 I just drop all those sweets etc 07:21 i dont do vegan 07:21 i am a demon so its even encouraged for me to eat humans 07:21 just test them by eating and see if it causes your monk to feel guilty :P 07:21 yeah but the item descriptions are meant to be all you need 07:21 which is a total lie as there's lots of missing info 07:21 :) 07:21 lol 07:22 "Artifact specs: A nice-looking cloak that was manufactured in Rita's Lingerie Studio. Chaotic." 07:22 so what does it do 07:22 actual effect: autocurses and sets its enchantment to -10 when worn! 07:22 lies by omission in the description then 07:22 <@Earth Traveler> working as intended, amateurhour 07:22 yeah 07:22 slex players are required to read the source code 07:23 just another case of having to source dive 07:23 <@Earth Traveler> everything in slex is trying to kill you, and that includes the developer 07:23 isn't that how it's irl too, you need to be a sleuth to figure out what is vegan 07:23 https://xkcd.com/293/ 07:24 @Earth Traveler: thanks, you saved me from having to say the line myself :D 07:24 amateurhour: never said that the item descriptions would tell you everything! how am I supposed to keep the aura of mystery going if there are no surprise items that turn out to be dangerous desipte the description not making it sound like they were? 07:25 hey Amy could you link me to the slex design document again? 07:25 I've forgotten where it lives 07:25 also gah stupid typo... despite, obviously 07:25 slex design document? you mean the design philosophy on the wiki? 07:25 yeah 07:25 <@Earth Traveler> i'm surprised that there isn't a chance for the high altars on astral to actually be mimics, thus making the game completely unwinnable 07:25 that one needs to be overhauled :P 07:25 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Blog#Design_principles 07:25 yeah, it does as the design philosophy has shifted from 'maximum randomness' to 'maximum screw u' :^) 07:25 also actual unwinnable scenarios are a bug 07:25 <@Earth Traveler> overhauled to "make the game as unwinnable as possible without being completely unwinnable" 07:26 > Not Too Many Unfair Deaths 07:26 remove that section 07:26 <@Earth Traveler> lol 07:26 > No Interface Screw Deaths 07:26 delet 07:26 > No Cyanide Rule 07:27 gone 07:27 note that deaths related to actual interface screw traps are fully intentional and do not fall under this rule 07:27 <@Earth Traveler> among the list of things trying to kill you in slex is the dev's design document of lies 07:27 hah 07:28 quick can copper rust? 07:28 <@Earth Traveler> in slex? probably 07:28 in slex at least 07:28 > I guess melee always being "viable" isn't necessarily a bad thing. 07:28 it's not viable 07:28 but glad you agree(d) 07:28 NetSysFire: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Materials 07:29 <@Earth Traveler> Amy comes from the school of thought that the players are the enemy of the developer :p 07:30 yeah we have to figure out tactics to get rid of those little pests because they're the most dangerous creatures in the dungeon! 07:30 > The slog through Gehennom is thus just that: a long boring slog 07:30 no comment 07:30 dammit my armor was cursed and enchanted with nastytrap 07:31 <@Earth Traveler> slex isn't boring! because you have to constantly be on guard against random BS deaths! 07:31 oh so that's where you got the checkerboard trap effect from 07:32 can i step in a heap of shit to get rid of that armor? 07:32 nah, that only affects boots 07:32 can i dig downwards in a hit of shit to make it a shit pit? 07:32 nah 07:32 can you #sit in a heap of shit? 07:32 does it just do boots still? 07:32 yes, that will trigger it 07:32 lol 07:33 what if you roll around in it 07:33 you should be able to #invoke imo 07:33 LarienTelrunya: dammit what am i supposed to do 07:34 <@Earth Traveler> lose obviously 07:34 uhh... get rid of the armor? 07:34 but how? 07:34 what material is it? 07:34 copper 07:34 dip into a fountain and get lucky, pay for a shopkeeper's uncurse service if available, drop everything else and let a nymph steal it... 07:34 can you poly? 07:34 polymorph into a monster that is too big :P 07:34 i have polymorph yeah 07:35 take off the cloak first if it's one you care about 07:36 aaand its empty 07:36 hmm i have two enchant armor scrolls 07:36 by the way, it can also happen that you trigger a checkerboard trap, and then you can't stop the effect as easily. in gehennom it can well last 10k or more turns 07:36 yeah if you successfully enchant it, the curse should be gone 07:37 10-50k turns of nasty trap is super fun and perfectly fair and balanced 07:37 players love that 07:38 when the checkerboard trap ends the screen doesnt get redrawn either 07:38 yes, say it with me now: *works as intended* :P 07:39 [hdf-eu] [slex] NetSysFire (Gla Dev Fem Cha) killed the invisible The Invisible Man, on T:8911 07:39 <@Earth Traveler> weird syntax but ok 07:40 "I'm the invisible The Invisible Man..." 07:40 LarienTelrunya: each time when i die and get asked to leave an epitaph i will write that down 07:40 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:40 mobileuser: works as intended 07:40 :D 07:40 <@Earth Traveler> "Works as intended" should be a message on random headstones 07:40 I now have that song playing in my head 07:40 also t-shirts 07:41 !epitaph slex 07:41 when i manage to ascend slex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3otBjVZzT0 07:41 aosdict: ^^ should be a thing *fleecy heart bundle* ♥ 07:41 dang that was meant to point to the !epitaph command 07:42 why aosdict? I don't think they manage Beholder 07:42 it's K2 and Tangles afaik 07:42 yeah but aosdict added the very flee-cy rumor command ♥ 07:42 !rumor slex 07:42 Most wands and spells will also anger a monster even if they kill it in one zap. 07:42 ah right 07:42 [hdf-au] [slex] cccrow (Mah Hum Fem Cha), 3073 points, T:2207, killed by a crossbow bolt 07:43 rip cccrow 07:43 that was fun 07:45 you had fun playing slex? 07:45 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 07:45 sounds like a bug 07:46 does not work as intended 07:46 "The RNG hath decreed that this item is always generated cursed: gouge dick (pornographic)." wtf 07:46 yep 07:46 the more you play the more offensive (intentionally and unintentionally) you'll find :P 07:48 well that the default randomized appearance of the spellbook of gouge dick is "pornographic spellbook" is intentional :P 07:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3233 07:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 337882 points, T:42171, killed by a frost giant 07:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3363 07:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3369 07:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3398 07:52 NetSysFire : slex kinda ridiculous that i cant take it seriously, that's why it is fun(ny) 07:53 i dont take it too seriously either but there are a few kinda edgy things in there which i am not exactly amused of 07:54 <@Earth Traveler> nice i got a luckstone before i even reached minetown 07:55 [hdf-au] [slex] cccrow (Mam Fie Mal Cha), 11522 points, T:156, killed by a monster (Ms. Melac, the shopkeeper) 07:55 <@Earth Traveler> "Things that are here: [...] a cursed elven broadsword named Orcrist" 07:56 <@Earth Traveler> screw you random gnome 07:56 NetSysFire : and there is a lot of weeb references 07:56 cccrow are you picking random combos? 07:56 ?? 07:56 like random role/race etc 07:57 nope, im checking everything 07:57 the thing i didnt really like is the presence of a monster named children butt 07:57 wtf!? 07:57 I don't like any of the child monsters being in there really 07:58 the little greek girl for example has a nurse engulf attack 07:58 @le?children butt 07:58 children butt (P) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 5 | Res: cold disintegrate poison acid petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d1 butt physical, 0d0 passive drain luck | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, amorphous, breathless, mindless, vegetarian 07:58 made my skin crawl 07:58 amateurhour: i dont get the reference if theres one 07:58 bcuz you could heal by essentially getting naked inside a little greek girl 07:58 and that whole thought made me uncomfortable 07:59 @le?little greek girl 07:59 little greek girl (j) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 8 | Res: acid petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: special | AC: 8 | Attacks: 3d6 engulf insanity, 3d6 passive heal | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, amorphous, breathless, mindless, seeinvis, vegan 07:59 lmao 07:59 amateurhour: but nethack has the magical pants 07:59 * NetSysFire tries to find the quote 08:00 lol I know what you mean dw 08:00 I think I was there 08:00 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3423 08:01 [hdf-eu] [spl] attie (Val Ang Nbn Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:30012 08:01 go attie 08:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law), 1305 points, T:2240, quit 08:03 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Mon Hum Fem Law), 963 points, T:923, killed by a giant bat 08:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 12620 points, T:7654, quit 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4553 08:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1682 08:19 looks like the second part of today's split shift will be turbo annoying because a tree fell into the track, blocking off a bunch of stations 08:23 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:23 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2151 08:23 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 08:26 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: sleep] 08:29 evil 2a :/ 08:29 ha 08:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:5140 08:36 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:36 [hdf-eu] [slex] NetSysFire (Gla Dev Fem Cha) killed Moldoux, the Defenceless Mold, on T:10501 08:36 fuck 08:36 rip 08:36 i moved to fast 08:36 rip 08:36 lol why am I not surprised 08:36 been telling you for a while to play slowly and carefully ;) 08:37 i escaped upstairs 08:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6626 08:44 gtg now, hopefully the trains are running at all 08:44 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:45 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 08:49 you better go catch them 08:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:8908 08:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3092 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6413 points, T:3369, killed by a vampire 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed jmcunx's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:9908 08:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3707 09:01 [hdf-eu] [slex] NetSysFire (Gla Dev Fem Cha) killed Njusha, on T:12301 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 613 points, T:623, killed by a dwarf 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10347 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22651 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3354 points, T:3425, zombified by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 923 points, T:1633, killed by a killer bee 09:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4768 09:19 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 09:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3119 points, T:5161, killed by a Grey-elf 09:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 352 points, T:1443, killed by a werejackal, while fainted from lack of food 09:30 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed StatueSurfer's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:11722 09:33 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Leggman's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:11805 09:36 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 09:36 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:31038 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:12275 09:41 -!- 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wand of cancellation at the train 09:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 586 points, T:1879, killed by a pony, while dressing up 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2779 09:56 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3178 09:58 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3131 10:01 @le?train 10:01 train (8) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 3d4 trample physical, 3d4 trample displacement | Alignment: 0 | Flags: flies, phases, breathless, seeinvis, undead, vegan 10:01 that monster should be vulnerable to cancellation 10:01 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01 lol 10:01 good one NetSysFire 10:01 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 10:01 thanks 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13475 10:05 haha 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "the blessed greased fixed Master Key of Thievery", on T:25847 10:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 108 points, T:524, killed by a kobold 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:25990 10:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1415 10:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Pri Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1715 10:28 -!- Lymia has quit [*.net *.split] 10:28 -!- fadein has quit [*.net *.split] 10:28 -!- rld has quit [*.net *.split] 10:28 -!- attie has quit [*.net *.split] 10:28 -!- jonadab has quit [*.net *.split] 10:28 -!- fadein has joined #hardfought 10:28 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 10:28 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 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quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "the blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:2127 10:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1676 points, T:491, killed by a giant mimic 10:46 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:6341 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:16917 10:48 <@nabru> ! ping 10:48 @nabru: Pong! 10:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2088 points, T:2530, betrayed by a shoggoth 10:55 uh oh 10:55 that livelogs? 10:55 !lastgame tori 10:55 Demo: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tori/dnethack/dumplog/1626187536.dnh.txt 10:56 oh damn 10:56 at least in slashem, "betrayed" is the message for being killed if the monster is M3_TRAITOR and has actually betrayed you 10:56 my guess would be that its the same in dnh 10:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:813 10:58 im shocked it tracks that 10:58 why? works as intended :P 10:58 properly after the mextra changes 10:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1590 points, T:873, killed by a large mimic 11:01 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 13567 points, T:5237, killed by a Green-elf, while helpless 11:02 LarienTelrunya: how can you train buc expertise and stuff? 11:02 throw items on altars for that one 11:02 buc experience is trained by- well ninjad :P 11:02 for weapon enchantment expertise use your appraisal skill 11:02 technique* 11:02 which btw is overpowered as heck 11:02 and the effect of those hidden stats is that items spawn with their enchantment or BUC known more often 11:03 also loooool amateurhour 11:03 "it has some marginal use, so it must be op!" 11:05 better nerf it amy 11:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3546 11:05 if someone could potentially devise a way to win, nerf 11:05 it's epic you can see the charges on all your wands and stuff 11:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1224 points, T:1116, killed by an invisible gnome lord 11:05 and the cooldown is really low 11:05 the game encourages you to spam it 11:05 -!- Sluggoman has joined #hardfought 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:8149 11:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 120 points, T:74, killed by a goblin 11:06 well how else are you supposed to see charges of wands? id scrolls are too precious to be wasted on that 11:06 alternate idea: identify always reports the charges 11:06 e z 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8559 11:07 ? the scrolls of standard id and identify do, but you'd have to do it for every single wand 11:08 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Law), 193 points, T:295, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:08 btw what's the turbonerf to the id spell again? I was gonna try cast it in a previous game but got scammed 11:09 decided that im gonna start asking Scottish people "why they talk like shrek" whenever i meet them to make sure they dont like me 11:09 hah 11:09 well it's not only much less likely to id things, but each facet of identification (base type, seen appearance, rustproofing-or-not, enchantment value and BUC) has a chance per item to be impossible to reveal :P 11:09 wow 11:10 and which part of that did you remove when you unnerfed it? 11:10 oh and identify can backfire, including a certain chance to cause amnesia 11:10 didn't "remove" anything, just reduced the odds of facets being impossible to reveal, but it can still happen 11:10 amy you want a wand of death? 11:10 what for? 11:11 to backfire haha ur dead now 11:11 :P 11:11 hey amy what did the train say to the interviewer? 11:12 it said: "information for s5 to redville, departure fifteen twenty-three, has been cancelled today, due to a fallen tree in the track! we apologize for any inconvenience!" 11:13 nothing cause trains cant talk cause they are MS_CHOO 11:13 I brought my Go game to a sudden stalemate; I felt bad about letting my opponent down but I had a train to catch. 11:13 (imagine that being spoken by the voice of Alisa Palmer, also known as "Blechelse" :D ) 11:13 You could say I had a "low _ko_ motive" 11:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1498 11:14 lol 11:14 wait amy whats MS_SOUND 11:14 means that the monster can emit soundwaves, which can break your potions and cause stun 11:14 why not MS_CHOO 11:15 makes choo choo train noises 11:15 for express train monster 11:15 haha 11:15 wow ok 11:15 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Wra Fem Law), 21673 points, T:5039, killed by a solar beam 11:15 F 11:15 !lastgame amateurhour 11:15 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1622575360.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1626177684.slex.txt 11:16 it did about 143 damage 11:16 that was a wand of aurora beam, which is like a superpowered wand of solar beam that deals much more damage and can also steal intrinsics ("You feel cooler.") 11:16 hahaha wand of deather 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:17476 11:16 -!- Sluggoman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:20192 11:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4242 11:19 wandkeepers are kinda good 11:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 348 points, T:371, killed by a gnome 11:21 eh, I don't know 11:21 sure, they're very good with wands, but apart from that... 11:21 wandkeepers are just wankers with extra letters added inbetween 11:21 looooool 11:22 lol 11:23 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3385 11:24 amateurhour: are you actually playing the wandkeeper, or just fooling around because they don't have your beloved martial arts skill and you don't know how to play weapon-using roles? ;) 11:24 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3461 11:25 too much of a noob to know how to wield a weapon smh 11:25 I am currently on a wandkeeper yes 11:25 I assumed they would just be 'lol use wands u get nothing else ya weenie' 11:26 yeah I see that, but I'm wondering whether you're playing "properly" or just yoloing it 11:26 but they get loads of weapons to expert, expert or better in all spell schools 11:26 expert or better in all the good utility skills... 11:26 a buttload of wands and spells 11:26 maybe we have different definitions in what 'good' is 11:26 having high skill caps = op 11:26 amy plaz nerf 11:26 because you're like 'eh they're alright I guess nothing special' 11:26 well according to amateurhour, apparently roles with good skill sets are OP 11:26 and I'm like wtf they can do everything they don't even need wands 11:27 amateurhour: their weapon skills suuuuuck! 11:27 just get a lightsaber quarterstaff and call it a day? 11:27 lightsabers suck in slex they dont even let u fly 11:27 that's... not something you can really depend on lol, might well require a wish 11:27 doesn't even matter they're versatile enough 11:28 i use aldebaran form and it lets me fly and do healing on hit 11:28 aldebaran??? why is that even a lightsaber form lol 11:29 but I can add a lightsaber artifact called aldebaran that will do such things :P 11:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 21873 points, T:3620, poisoned by a rotted giant beetle corpse 11:30 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4164 11:31 (toilet, on a hole) 11:31 lol fitting I gues 11:31 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4241 11:33 -!- Grassy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:33 is there somethig which explains egotypes of monsters? 11:33 i dont know what Bad0wn3r means 11:33 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 11:33 well the source, because I haven't gotten around to updating the wiki 11:34 means the monster gets an additional melee attack that does really bad random stuff 11:35 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Wan Wra Fem Law), 5583 points, T:1006, quit 11:35 wtf 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:19417 11:35 game became unwinnable 11:36 well I suspected you'd not play a non-martialarts role seriously :P 11:36 !lastgame amateurhour 11:36 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1622575360.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1626189570.slex.txt 11:36 I'd have played on 11:36 [hdf-eu] [slex] NetSysFire (Gla Dev Fem Cha) killed The Boar of Everholt, on T:13313 11:36 but couldn't 11:36 ? 11:36 iron bars trap put iron bars in soko puzzle 11:36 don't see a problem in the dump 11:36 I am a sokosolver 11:36 oh 11:36 look at the bars next to me 11:36 @le?dorothea 11:36 Dorothea (F) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 8 | Res: disintegrate petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: unique | AC: 8 | Attacks: 1d3 weapon physical, 1d4 kick physical, 1d2 non-contacting-beam mana | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, conceals, nopoly, stalker, vegan 11:36 [hdf-eu] [slex] NetSysFire (Gla Dev Fem Cha) killed Dorothea, on T:13319 11:36 well but what if you had moved south? 11:37 the downstair looks like it was still reachable 11:37 the downstairs is reachable but how would I ever go up again? 11:37 and I don't mean the obvious mimic :P 11:37 unwinnable game 11:37 = why bother trying 11:37 nah, you'd smash the bars with a high-heeled shoe later 11:37 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werecockatrice, on T:5028 11:37 I thought that wasn't allowed at all 11:37 and yes that would require *shudder* using a weapon :P 11:37 same reasoning as not being allowed to phase through 11:37 for some reason you can't phase through iron bars in soko 11:38 you've never tried, right? I use that method often to shortcut certain soko levels 11:38 smashing them that is 11:38 wow you'd really allow such a huge exploit as that? 11:38 like why on earth do you think I'd allow for the game to become unwinnable like that, you *really* don't know jack about the slex design philosophy... 11:38 well you allow rivers of lava in soko puzzles as sokosolver :P 11:38 yes 11:39 just use a wand of cold :P wandkeeper has a good chance of starting with that 11:39 rivers of moorland, ordinary rivers, etc 11:39 anyways, > be me, playing monk, get mocked and called bad for playing monk 11:39 have to get creative to deal with them, but not impossible 11:40 > be also me, tries another role and thinks it's quite good 11:40 > mocked anyway 11:40 :P 11:40 amateurhour: yeah you really dont know anything about the philosphy, slex is supposed to be hard 11:40 well if the role is supposedly so good, why didn't you ascend but quit at the first sign of difficulty? 11:40 because I thought it was unwinnable? 11:40 I'm doing another one 11:40 ...why didn't you at least *ask me* 11:41 because if it actually was unwinnable, it'd be a bug 11:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:16053 11:41 and I'd want to know about it and see it in-game to assess whether it actually is unwinnable 11:41 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 7377 points, T:5488, killed by an owlbear 11:41 lol 11:42 if I get terminal assitis within a few thousands turns I'd just quit 11:42 if it's faster to start over than deal with a nasty trap you bet I'll just do that 11:42 whats assitis? 11:42 generic term I use for a nasty trap 11:42 it's amateurhour's name for effects that are slightly annoying :P 11:43 pain in the ass 11:45 [hdf-eu] [slex] NetSysFire (Gla Dev Fem Cha), 80688 points, T:13719, killed by a monster (dwarven elite guardian) 11:45 rip me 11:45 rip 11:45 F 11:45 LarienTelrunya: i want to see you play 10k turns with the effects of a latency trap 11:45 uh did slex crash on me again 11:46 oh it was just lag 11:46 looks like you're still playing 11:46 it froze for what felt like forever 11:46 NetSysFire: heh I've played with lag trap effects active 11:46 amateurhour: works as intended 11:50 when i died i wrote that in my epitaph 11:50 heh nice 11:51 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 12284 points, T:11627, killed by a mumak 11:51 next time i die i will put something like "slex is a very fair and balanced game" 11:53 !rng play slex | mod slex | play ahl | eat something you fucking bitch! 11:53 LarienTelrunya: play ahl 11:53 while eating 11:53 :D 11:54 Amy idk what I ate that counted as cannibalism 11:54 > You consume lairmade food. You cannibal! You will regret this! 11:54 something human, probably 11:54 it doesn't say what it was 11:55 you ate an unknown tin, so it could have been basically any monster that can spawn randomly at your current depth and leaves a corpse 11:57 You see here a magic marker (1:1) {0} 11:57 hey Amy how come you get (0:95) markers and I get whatever this is 11:57 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:57 felt marker 11:57 works as intended :P 12:00 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- marblesurf has quit [Changing host] 12:00 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 12:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:21541 12:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 cloak of protection", on T:21543 12:05 huh how did I instantly forget a spell 12:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:21545 12:06 you mean it's 0% memory now? 12:06 yeah 12:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:21546 12:06 ah, repair weapon has a chance to greatly reduce its memory when cast, to ensure it's not infinite :P 12:07 :/ 12:07 "omg that's so retarded!" 12:07 it went from 120% to 0% after one cast 12:07 ...I'd just go with confused enchant weapon at that point 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6679 12:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Orc Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 Dragonbane", on T:21658 12:07 enchant weapon scrolls aren't infinite though 12:08 amateurhour: say it with me now... 12:08 well this spell is one use lol 12:08 seems really underwhelming 12:08 nah, you just got bad RNG 12:08 are there any new spells that can be used nonironically? 12:09 Not being infinite > whatever this is 12:09 gouge dick? :D 12:09 what does that actually do again? 12:10 * Umbire sets a timer 12:10 it paralyzes and damages the monster that is currently engulfing you; if you're not engulfed, it does nothing 12:11 is that really the best new spell you've added? 12:12 nah, you just asked for new spells without major downsides ;) 12:12 and that was the first one that came to my mind 12:12 Because of course it was, if I tried to write a joke like that myself it'd come across mean. 12:12 are there any where the downsides are alright and it's actually worth using? 12:14 repair weapon :P I've used it with the librarian a couple of times 12:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:21890 12:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class ;), on T:21891 12:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:21891 12:15 If that's what qualifies then it sure made a dogshit first impression 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:7332 12:16 haha yeah, oh well 12:17 well you also have to admit that a spell that can be infinitely used to repair weapons would be too strong, would make erosion on weapons entirely meaningless unless the enemy applies it so fast in succession that you can't cast the spell quickly enough 12:17 idk if it would really be that strong... 12:17 it's just erosion, it's not enchanting the weapon 12:17 it would let you completely bypass the erosion mechanic for weapons 12:17 that makes the game too easy, you're supposed to have to deal with erosion effects throughout the game :P 12:17 No, being able to erodeproof it does that 12:18 Umbire: not in slex 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7769 12:18 I mean you can just repair and fooproof it with a scroll, idk if training up the spell school just to cast this is worth it 12:18 ...then what's the big deal with just removing levels of erosion that can be reapplied anyway...? 12:18 as I said before, you don't have a bottomless supply of scrolls 12:19 which is fine 12:19 ? 12:19 Umbire: if you could cast the spell endlessly, you'd never have to run around with an eroded weapon because you'd just instantly repair it every time it gets damaged 12:19 we can't have that! 12:20 is there something we're not seeing that would make this spell epic? 12:20 I'd think that's dependent on how cost-intensive it is and how much the scenario in question erodes your weapon + how often 12:20 like did you change how erosion works or something? 12:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:24896 12:20 15 mana, i.e. no real cost because mana just regenerates anyway 12:20 and that spell power is something you could be spending on other castings 12:20 well erosion can destroy your weapon if it gets eroded enough; amateurhour: you never use weapons so you've never encountered that effect I guess? 12:20 ...Amy, maybe you should raise the spell level of that 12:20 nah 12:20 lol I do play things other than monk you know 12:20 ('-' ) 12:21 I'm just on a mission to ascend a monk in every variant 12:21 Then you can't exactly complain about it being cracked 12:21 Getting whiffs of solutions looking for a problem 12:22 ? 12:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was given Fuma-itto no Ken, on T:490 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 17194 points, T:8528, petrified by a cockatrice 12:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Pri Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Priestess, on T:5485 12:25 a river in a soko puzzle 12:25 with deadly sea monsters even 12:25 you're a wraith, you can fly right? 12:25 yeah, gotta hop there's enough river to get over there 12:26 there's not 12:26 oh you want to get to the pool stair I guess 12:26 got a pick-axe? 12:26 no, I had to go down past mines iirc 12:26 the walls outside the actual sokoban perimeter are sometimes diggable 12:27 what is this random boulder? there doesn't appear to be any boulder traps 12:27 you might have gotten one of those soko levels that have extra boulders in random places 12:27 if you drop enough stuff, you can squeeze onto it 12:27 :| 12:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2205 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 285 points, T:461, killed by a gnome lord 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] secra (Val Dwa Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a Grey-elf corpse, on T:8212 12:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 8515 points, T:3202, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6717 12:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1718 12:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2234 points, T:1799, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 12:43 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:702 12:45 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:46 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 12:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2523 points, T:933, killed by a dwarf zombie 12:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:16206 12:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 1006 points, T:1522, killed by a dagger 12:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1469 points, T:2148, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food 12:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:529 12:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1557 points, T:547, killed by a dwarf 12:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:16575 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:27548 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27550 13:02 !who 13:02 K2: [hdf-us] grumlin [nh370] ssnufd [nh370] Freya [dnh] tori [dnh] KrO2 [dnh] Prospero [xnh] | [hdf-eu] Arasaka [nh370] tromix [nh370] joosa [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 13:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1907 13:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Law), 2915 points, T:1947, killed by a giant mimic 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gas spore, on T:6447 13:09 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 13:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7415 13:09 K2: pushed a bug fix to fh spellcasting 13:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:7461 13:10 ok 13:10 did you see the latest issue? 13:10 I saw https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/oib0cx/playing_fiqhack_spellcost_is_acting_weird/ 13:10 is that what you're referring to? 13:10 [FredrIQ/fiqhack] Container properties on random items (#42) 13:10 14 min ago 13:10 ah, not yet 13:10 I've been away for a bit 13:11 conveniently right after pushing a bunch of changes that might be buggy :P 13:11 heh 13:11 sorry about that lol 13:11 i want a 'rock of holding' 13:11 hah 13:12 i like your new bag commit 13:12 some neat ideas there 13:12 i want to play fiqhack again and ascend a caveman 13:13 i tried to get a game going during june but didnt have enough time 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:27931 13:13 is there an "object is a bag container" func? 13:14 there's macros yeah 13:14 of course i have no idea how nh4 based variants do it 13:14 is it the same? dunno 13:15 Is_container() 13:15 oh I see the problem 13:15 basically, I used to just fall back to container properties 13:15 i think there's one specifically for portable containers too 13:15 and it worked mostly by accident because I later on filtered oilskin on non-cloth objects 13:15 aah 13:15 and oilskin was the only applicable container property 13:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 3238 points, T:3634, killed by a gnome king 13:16 but since there are some other ones now 13:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 stormbringer", on T:1858 13:16 and they weren't filtered 13:16 you could end up with weird stuff like rocks of greed 13:16 i'll patch next week so we can all enjoy having a 'rock of greed' or a 'tin opener of tricks' 13:16 x - a potion of greed. 13:16 now if someone could explain what it does 13:17 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 13:17 well clearly you want more potions 13:17 should I allow bag of tricks to generate with useless properties? 13:17 probably not 13:17 !who 13:17 amateurhour: [hdf-us] samiam [nh343] grumlin [nh370] nabru [nh370] ssnufd [nh370] tori [dnh] Prospero [xnh] | [hdf-eu] Arasaka [nh370] tromix [nh370] joosa [nh370] FIQ [fh] amateurhour [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 13:18 which variant was funny enough to add pot of greed? 13:19 I was just riffing off FIQ's comments 13:19 not that wierd really. should act like a scroll of gold detection 13:19 YASI: That but also have a low, non-zero chance of generating two random potions in your inventory 13:20 YANI you mean, that's a fun lil reference 13:23 I should look at gnollhack's wish parser for mythic objects 13:24 it's much saner than what I am doing wrt the wish parser for obj property wishing 13:24 (wizmode-only) 13:25 okay, now that I've taken care of some annoying chores, I'm ready to continue my slex run, let's see if I instantly die again :P 13:26 i think i'm gonna host gnollhack 13:26 omg is that the end of the world? 13:27 i made my own repo for it last night, its all set and ready to go to add to hdf servers 13:27 i just need to make room for it... 13:27 guess slex will have to go 13:27 what the hell happened? did they get off their asses and fix those security vulnerabilities at last? 13:27 :D 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:28539 13:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:27 and did they actually make sure their commits don't break saves with them telling us that they wouldn't? 13:28 gnollhack is gneat 13:28 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:28 yay gnollhack \o/ 13:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) averted death, on T:3325 13:29 Gnollhack has a lot of unusual ideas but many of them are pretty good, even if on the "cracked" side of things 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:28628 13:29 blah I don't get what's supposedly good about a variant whose devs are so hard to contact 13:29 they're easy to contact 13:30 like, if I were to somehow hit the wrong hotkey in the dgl screen and accidentally start a gnh game, where do I go to report the 200 bugs? 13:30 -!- Xjs has quit [Quit: Bye.] 13:30 fun fact: the fake Amulet can apparently generate with object properties 13:30 their discord is probably the best place 13:30 I might let this stay 13:30 (the real one can't) 13:30 blah I don't like discord :P 13:30 heh, I could make it only able to generate with clairvoyance :P 13:30 * amateurhour shrugs 13:31 all the important people are on irc, I don't feel like wasting time with a second platform for the few that aren't 13:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1646 points, T:2371, killed by a giant beetle, while fainted from lack of food 13:31 that's just as if one of my acquaintances wasn't on whatsapp and would ask me to get sender or trendflex or however those other platforms are called 13:32 * amateurhour shrugs even harder 13:32 lol 13:32 K2: ok so a problem 13:32 fixing this bug will lead to... this 13:33 "Obj (whatever) has invalid properties, deleting..." 13:33 hmm 13:33 is this ok? I don't want to silence that error in case it happens in the future 13:33 there was a reason I made it 13:33 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 13:35 sure 13:35 so it looks like janne_hmp has gotten slightly better on verbose commit messages 13:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:8995 13:36 ... slight 13:36 pushed another update 13:36 just a scooch 13:36 itsy bitsy bit 13:36 i cant read words that make no sense so i just read that as jane hemp 13:36 which is like maryjane 13:37 there's still some of the 'more improvements' and 'small changes' commits tho 13:37 https://github.com/FredrIQ/fiqhack/issues/42 I wrote a comment about it here 13:37 oh and the ever popular 'fixes' 13:37 K2: I mean I do that too sometimes 13:37 14551a0c3b9d7492410dc30b8cbbc25eaa83dab9 13:37 in fiqhack 13:37 for example 13:37 heh, sometimes I label my commits "add stuff", those are usually just random messages and scroll labels 13:37 gnollhack had some really problematic something idk i didnt care and mostly thought it was funny and forgot what it was but i wish i remember cause it was funny 13:38 when i first starting getting into coding nethack things, most of my early grunthack commits were just awful 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1031 points, T:1803, killed by a soldier ant 13:38 the commit message would be something like this: ... 13:38 drove Tangles nuts 13:38 haha yeah 13:38 k2 i think thats real quest dialog from dnh 13:38 hah 13:38 and then I was told hey dont do that 13:39 so i didnt 13:39 https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/blob/compat-3.21.0/dat/quest.txt#L1378 oh hey it is 13:39 K2: I could always mention to them that you want better commit messages but I don't want to drive them further underground 13:39 the thing is with the gnollhack devteam, several of us told them that a long time ago, kinda fell on deaf ears 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:28964 13:39 wow my first commits were actually more descriptive than the ones I'm making nowadays 13:39 lol yeah 13:39 the reason as I understand it that they vanished from here in first place apart from one-off cases is because they were getting badgered 13:39 they had titles like "Fixed some potential inconsistencies in muse.c" or "Drow and ogro race turn into the correct mummies when leaving bones" 13:39 my commit messages are epic sometimes 13:39 sometimes they are horrid 13:40 FIQ blame LarienTelrunya for that 13:40 k2 has insanely good commit msgs for a lot of evilhack shit 13:40 she badgered them 13:40 like your commit message which is longer than the diff that doesn't say what it actually fixed Amy 13:40 https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/9827a4c7335d35b5b8adde947a70ea830a3e2908 :P 13:40 like he sat down and wrote a fucking paragraph that actually tells you shit 13:40 Demo thanks 13:40 as it should be! 13:40 amateurhour: that sounds like jonadab commit messages 13:40 im like damn i can barely write a few sentences without just kinda saying stuff that makes no sense 13:40 iirc he likes to be rather long-winded in them sometimes 13:40 aosdict was a good influence on my commit style 13:41 and the commit itself is like 13:41 amateurhour: commits that fix exploitable stuff intentionally have vague descriptions so the teeming hordes of players waiting to exploit stuff don't have such an easy time :P 13:41 one line 13:41 Amy 100% of the active slex players knew what you were referring to 13:41 :P 13:41 my commit messages tend to reflect my thoughts on when I worked on it 13:41 which is usually a good thing 13:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:25877 13:41 but it's why I sometimes end up with "Minor fix" 13:41 sometimes a commit message can just be the title and that's all that is necessary as long as it gets the point across 13:41 and similar 13:41 I should try to avoid that 13:42 i have some bad oens 13:42 aosdict is a powerful commit message writer 13:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 34564 points, T:9137, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 13:42 "Power armor added as well as a lot of other stuff, it is nuts." 13:42 the commit messages should explain what the problem and the fix is so future you will understand why you did that 13:42 ^ that 13:42 and not just future you 13:42 anyone 13:42 sometimes I feel like I get too far into minutiae 13:42 when explaining the bug or whatever 13:42 nah 13:43 i would rather have more info than not 13:43 nah qt it's better to be too verbose than not verbose enough imo 13:43 like many of my vanilla PRs I write three paragraphs and PatR's version of the commit is a single sentence lol 13:43 information is power 13:43 when I'm king useless commit messages will be illegal 13:43 heres one of my better commit msgs https://github.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/commit/a490b214cabef8330557f8024a165be77aec728b 13:43 short and to the point with a stupid quip 13:43 hah 13:43 * Menchers is reminded of gnollhack's git log 13:43 that's what started this conversation Menchers haha 13:43 Yeah 13:44 we've gone full circle now 13:44 full circle time 13:44 * Menchers looks through scrollback 13:44 FIQ if you want to invite the gnollhack folks here again, go for it 13:44 i'll do a better job of policing badgering vs bonafide constructive criticism 13:44 Please do lol 13:44 someone put the bitch muzzle on amy first 13:44 * K2 looks at Amy 13:44 hah 13:44 lol 13:44 ...I mean if you're just gonna say it... 13:44 ;) 13:45 K2: I might try it later, but I don't have high hopes 13:45 While they did get grilled heavily (some for good reason, others not so much) when they first started this they've actually stuck with it and taken the time to genuinely improve things 13:45 and yes I know you're serious, but... them dismissing Demo's bug report like that was really mean IMHO 13:45 are they on irc? 13:45 or discord? 13:45 (that emerald sword thing still sounds cracked though) 13:45 I mean they are clearly capable of using irc 13:45 Discord, I can throw you an invite 13:45 nobody's on irc these days except loser computer nerds 13:45 Tommi joined here on irc 13:45 Umbire sure 13:45 when he wanted to reach out to you/Tangles about dgl stuff 13:45 but gnollhack itself is a discord 13:45 ^ 13:46 so really you are implying they may be loser computer nerds, which is an insult, thereby violating your own no-badgering policy 13:46 qt: don't try to catch us out with your earth logic 13:46 so it might be easier to suggest that they join hdf on the discord side 13:46 FIQ I saw a bit of that but i was pretty busy at the time 13:46 https://discord.com/invite/qgz4JQm 13:46 K2: also you could always just join the discord 13:46 and Tangles has been really busy for several months now 13:46 Invite's still active 13:46 and ask yourself ;) 13:46 FIQ thats what i am gonna do 13:47 * Menchers was initially unsure whether to read "is a discord" as "is in a state of discord" or "is on Discord" 13:47 K2: should I give a link to the discord? 13:47 I already did FIQ 13:47 it's not very active 13:47 sometimes i click on it and see fiq told them words 13:47 used to click on it and see nothing 13:47 which is an euphenism for "there is currently only me (and the developers) that is active there" 13:47 I am also there 13:47 since I did plan to try it Soon™ 13:48 Demo: yeah because nobody else is playing it lol 13:48 I mean, take dnh or fh for example 13:48 Really should fix that... 13:48 dnh is fun 13:48 there were periods where there was no talk about either variant whatsoever 13:48 fh now, dnh in earlier years 13:48 then all of a sudden dnh became epic 13:48 build it and they will come 13:48 ^ 13:49 i built a froghouse and no frogs moved in 13:49 I'd prefer if gnh was on hdf so it's more centralized and had Beholder reports, but I can get by with their own server just fine 13:49 and meanwhile FH has a lot of interest for its player/monster congruence 13:49 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 13:49 it does disappoint me a bit that it isn't on the scoreboard though 13:49 (though I really hope monsters don't still read genocide on you) 13:49 I mean the xlog is there 13:49 is the xlog there? :^) 13:49 so idk why it isn't 13:49 yes 13:49 what if we pronounced xlog as "zlog" instead of "x-log" 13:50 sorry that was jokingly referring to them wiping the xlog recently 13:50 :^) 13:50 here in germany we pronounce it "iks-log" :D 13:50 they pushed an update recently 13:50 its "eks-log" 13:50 it didn't wipe the xlog 13:50 so cleraly they fixed that hurdle 13:50 FIQ the gnollhack devs accidentally wiped their xlogfile during junethack 13:50 pushing an update 13:50 K2: yeah I heard about it 13:50 julyhack xlogwipe 13:50 but they seems to have fixed their workflow 13:50 k2 its xlogfile cleaning season 13:51 hdf must comply with the seasonal xlogfile cleaning requirements 13:51 remove all entries from users whos names dont start with De and end with mo[0-9] 13:52 Derisimo 13:52 that guy doesnt have any entries and isnt real 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had a double-headed axe named Cleaver bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:19632 13:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 18554 points, T:3447, killed by a giant spider 13:52 and if he was id be his name dad so his ascs would count for me 13:53 "name dad"? 13:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 76 points, T:129, killed by a jackal 13:53 yes 13:53 <@riker> also that doesn't match the regex 13:53 theres no regex 13:53 amateurhour: I thought you were there already 13:53 on the gnh discord I mean 13:53 if there was regex it would be written to actually match something sane 13:53 <@riker> "end with mo[0-9]" 13:53 thats not a regex [0-9] thats a demo parsed speach format 13:53 it was an unclaimed account FIQ 13:53 ah 13:54 <@riker> ^De.*mo[0-9]$ 13:54 no 13:54 <@riker> lol 13:54 rip all DemoBot's games Demo 13:54 -!- marblesurf has quit [Quit: cya] 13:54 he sucks 13:54 @riker that wouldn't match Demo 13:54 just match Demo.* :) and that way if anyone wants to play i will be their name dad 13:54 Decimo 13:55 not Demogorgon 13:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 638 points, T:479, killed by Mr. Queyssac, the shopkeeper 13:55 <@riker> ye fiq that's intentional 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:22027 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Bartlem (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:6800 13:59 LarienTelrunya: what's your pronounciation of "nethack"? 13:59 Nethäck 13:59 did Bartlem get excal with crowning? 13:59 europeans need to learn how to talk 13:59 that's.. very unusual 14:00 and yes unnethack I actually pronounce "Un-nethäck", not "Annethäck" :P 14:00 oh lol a monster with data delete attacks spawned in my game 14:01 good thing it didn't get the drop on me 14:01 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:1871 14:01 This is a fascinating conversation to someone to whom an umlaut conveys little beyond "this word is pronounced weirdly" 14:01 it's pronounced nɛ'θæk 14:01 FIQ: Not that unusual if you skyrocket your luck early enough 14:01 same pinkbeast but also you talk wrong 14:01 (still somewhat unusual, though) 14:02 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 14:02 umlaut is just another letter 14:02 Demo: Let's hear you pronounce "arse", then :-) 14:02 thats not a word 14:02 anything else is wrong :) 14:02 a letter iwth an umlaut on it that is 14:02 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2171 14:03 *with 14:03 just say net and then hack and if theres any letters i cant read in there you are saying it wrong 14:03 LarienTelrunya: I use a normal a, not the the umlauted vowel 14:03 although by nethack rules it would be in the spirit of nethack to not have any fixed pronunciation 14:03 bhaak: ??? so you pronounce it like in "hacken"? 14:03 it's pronounced like neh thack 14:03 LarienTelrunya: yes 14:03 but fortunately nhinrl is a two way street 14:03 wtf 14:03 with a Θ sound 14:03 like nathanial 14:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 8619 points, T:2118, killed by a human mummy 14:04 there are other ways to pronounce it? 14:04 I do the same as bhaak 14:04 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 1190 points, T:2203, killed by a volatile mushroom's explosion 14:05 Demo: in a language like English which has no recognizable correlation between writing and speaking, you can't just do "say it like it's written" 14:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 699 points, T:283, killed by a dagger 14:05 nethäck 14:05 actually in a language like english where theres no enforcement on me talking out of my ass i can say whatever the fuck i want 14:05 äss 14:05 the language doesnt limit that 14:05 ʞɔɐɥʇǝu? 14:06 Demo: That's your arse. 14:06 qt: what's a thack? the smaller brother of a thug? 14:06 no demo you can't say whatever you want because this is a no-cursing christian chatroom 14:06 just pronounce nethack like tone does or something he probably says it right idk i dont watch enough tone streams 14:06 Demo: sure you can. but that doesn't help other people understand on how you think words are pronounced 14:06 i just remember him talking normal 14:07 FIQ: I should start putting anti-commie messages in my commit messages, and see if I can get github banned in China, if it isn't already. Hmm. [checks] Nevermind, already blocked. Of course. 14:07 it is nyethack. because you are not supposed to hack the game, but play properly by the rules. 14:07 bhaak: it's a sound effect like 'thwack' but represents the sound of falling onto an instadeath spike pit on on T:150 14:07 bhaak how does people understand what im saying help me when i cant even understand half of what i say 14:07 qt: I wouldn't know how that sounds. I removed that from unnethack 14:07 dang, weapon shop on sewer:32 14:07 clonk! 14:08 ^ still dont like this msg cause iron bar projectil crashes 14:09 what's wrong with "clonk" for metal on metal? 14:09 cause it was like uh oh stuff is being thrown at iron bars it better not crash 14:09 lost intelligence, so now my main offensive spell is 2% fail... and it actually fails when I try to use it on the next monster 14:10 crash in "program crashing"? that bug is so old, it will graduate from school soon 14:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1767 points, T:1307, killed by a giant spider 14:10 also, like, play something that's fixed 14:10 poison spike instadeath was created by someone who had a very bad day 14:11 what version fixed it? i used to play a lot of local 340 14:11 we should be sympathetic to their plight 14:11 and then local 343 and then local slashem 14:11 After all this I'm going to start saying neth-ack 14:11 FIQ: Earth Traveler was planning to change that in their variant 14:12 a lot of variants remove it 14:12 and I was considering the same/similar, e.g. having it so a poisoned pit is consistently so 14:12 I think basically every single variant has changed it 14:12 rather than RNG that can trigger on the same pit because whsta 14:12 what* 14:12 the post 3.4.3 variants fixed that for sure 14:12 poison instadeath is okay as long as it's not as godawfully common as it is in vanilla :P 14:12 slashem being slashem didn't like bug fixes 14:12 it's one of those things on the Variant Developer Checklist 14:12 right alongside "* Remove the mysterious force" 14:12 true fiq 14:13 and remove rogue level (more variants should do this that actually add content) 14:13 and remove soko (please do it please i hate soko) 14:13 bump removing soko over the force 14:13 I've been tempted to actually 14:13 actually no the force is worse 14:13 whats a valid soko replacement though? 14:13 or have a token sokoban branch 14:13 nothing 14:13 that had a little accident 14:13 and was somehow solved 14:13 even lokoban is better than sokoban 14:13 the astral planes should be giant soko puzzles 14:13 without player input 14:13 and lokoban is the dumbest shit ever 14:13 oops 14:14 I personally would not replace Sokoban 14:14 Nerfing Elbereth is another thing on the checklist. 14:14 i would swap sokoban and normal dungeon 14:14 but I can def. sympathize with things what make it annoying for some folks 14:14 porting omat patch is up there too now jonadab 14:14 so most of the game is sokoban, but there's a small sidebranch with normal dungeon 14:14 qt: play sokosolver on slex 14:14 trying to think of a replacement for Soko would take a lot more effort and consideration by default though 14:14 compared to just making it suck less 14:14 I like Evil's approach to Elbereth... It works, but you have to learn the word 14:14 i think a 3.x implementation on #find should be added to all 3.x variants 14:14 i.e. you can't spam it in the early game 14:15 Demo: "omat patch"? 14:15 #find? 14:15 object materials 14:15 I like dnh's approach 14:15 "elbereth? what's that?" 14:15 Wards are p. sweet honestly 14:15 distinctive and unique 14:15 umbire http://home.fiq.se/obj_search.png 14:15 FIQ: acehack did that as well :-) 14:15 o that 14:15 sick 14:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 668 points, T:663, killed by a dagger 14:15 The problem with Evil's approach to Elbereth, is it makes late-game players more powerful and early-game players weaker, which is the opposite of what needs to happen. 14:16 the most important improvement that should be adopted is readable hawaiian shirts 14:16 i agree with qt that needs to be in all 14:16 didn't play evilhack much but from what I've heard, it has plenty of stuff that makes the late game difficult 14:16 I asked the gnollhack devs to do it the other day 14:16 Umm, why would Hawaiian shirts be *readable*? 14:16 they have some interesting stuff in their code 14:16 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3157 14:16 Why the fuck not 14:16 I was ignored 14:16 readable shirts are fleeeeee-cy! ♥ 14:16 jonadab: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/407 14:16 Umbire: Because they don't normally have words on them? 14:16 I wonder if they even saw it because they have replied to basically everything else so far 14:17 "read" is a bit advanced of a way to put it but yeah 14:17 as in you can look at the shirt and see the pattern it has 14:17 it's just 'readable' in the sense that you can use the 'read' command to look at the shirt 14:17 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 1314 points, T:2351, killed by a gnome lord 14:17 Ah. 14:17 I mean, the designs on most Hawaiian shirts I've seen is just abstract blobs, but whatever. 14:17 its a very "nethack" patch 14:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:542 14:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1137 points, T:557, killed by a gnome lord 14:18 you've encountered some dogshit shirts then 14:18 qt: i'm sure some have seen it. 14:18 I am fairly sure this is a repost https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3559 14:18 i have a hawaiian shirt with this guy on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerne_Abbas_Giant 14:18 because I vaguely remember that as something I typed *years* ago 14:19 Nope 14:19 I wasn't around to respond years ago :B 14:19 Umbire: Well, Hawaiian shirts are not known for being tasteful. 14:19 says who :1 14:19 It is not so easy to open this tin. You succeed in opening the tin. 14:19 It contains some decaying green substance. 14:20 Umbire: Shopkeepers, among other people. 14:20 amateurhour: ^^ is that better or worse than a tin of spinach meat? :D 14:20 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20 -!- Glasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:20 probably rotten meat of the spinach 14:20 Shopkeepers say a lot of things 14:20 oh my bad 14:20 was thinking wrong context 14:20 lol it ok 14:20 I thought it was about a fh change 14:20 but no it was just a wand of locking incident 14:21 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 14:21 Umbire: Yes, but shopkeepers treat Hawaiian shirts that way because their being obnoxious and hopelessly unfashionable has been a meme, since before the internet was a thing. 14:22 jonadab: you're treading on dangerous ground, I am wearing a hawaiian shirt right now 14:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:576 14:22 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 14:22 qt's shirt is of extraordinary quality, of course 14:22 nobody could measure u 14:22 p 14:22 true elegance 14:22 you wouldn't be able to take your eyes of it 14:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 672 points, T:699, killed by a gnomish wizard 14:23 shks should give me better deals on shit if im in a hawaiin shirt cause they know im a big spenda 14:23 I mean that's what they do 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:4504 14:23 Oh yeah, mobile game had a giant drop one for my valk during the quest 14:23 they know tourists have money to throw around 14:23 so they mark up prices 14:23 have you ever been to a souvenir shop 14:23 figured out what enchant armor is so have that and DSM in my future 14:23 no i like having money 14:24 I spy Death in Umbire's future 14:24 qt: I owned a Hawaiian shirt once. When I was in college. 14:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:26779 14:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:26780 14:25 It was comfortable, so I wore it sometimes. 14:25 frankly lucky I haven't fried as is 14:25 i went to a souvenir shop at the basilica in baltimore cause i was up there and bored and my friend wanted to or whatever and they had jesus trading cards there. it was awesome that they existed but they were expensive and pretty goofy 14:25 gaaaaaaaaaaah 14:25 found a big fat bug in slex 14:25 still no reflection + dealing with lightning ate a few wands/rings 14:25 man... 14:25 amy is it an arc bug? 14:25 oh no? 14:25 LarienTelrunya: me too 14:25 @le?grid bug 14:25 grid bug (x) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 12 | Res: shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 9 | Attacks: 1d1 bite shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, oviparous, infravisible 14:25 Demo: What, like Top Trumps? Don't they all have "Holiness: 10" ? 14:25 nah, the bug makes it so that deathmold player race characters (which I'm currently playing) polymorph into the wrong things! 14:26 @le?big fat bug 14:26 No such monster. 14:26 @le?small thin bug 14:26 No such monster. 14:26 idk pinkbeast this was like 3 years ago or something i dont happen to remember the stats or any details 14:26 @@le?small thin bug 14:26 small thin bug ~6~ sain bug (x) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 12 | Res: shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 9 | Attacks: 1d1 bite PAIN | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, oviparous, infravisible 14:26 Define "wrong things" 14:26 sessile things, one hopes 14:26 Umbire: they should polymorph into missingnos, but because of the bug mine polymorphed into a You missed the percenttpercenti! 14:26 jellies, perhaps. 14:27 @le?You missed 14:27 No such monster. 14:27 Demo: how dare you forget the stats on something you didn't buy 14:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2543 points, T:1361, killed by a gnome 14:27 they had some out on display 14:27 @le?You missed the percenttpercenti 14:27 You missed the percenttpercenti ~1~ You missed the percenttpercenti! (~) | Lvl: 11 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -40 | Attacks: 3d2 weapon physical, 3d2 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 14:27 Yeah, that tracks. 14:27 that is an actual monster? 14:27 ...that doesn't even seem like a bad form at a glance 14:27 yes 14:27 minus the obvious "nopoly" thing 14:27 FIQ: It's slex. Of course it is. 14:28 I guess the cards could be different styles of Orthodox iconography 14:28 <@riker> k2 are you checking the gnollhack discord? 14:28 yeah 14:28 it was a catholic basilica 14:28 @@le?Dispatcher 14:28 Dispatcher ~2~ Dispater (&) | Lvl: 78 | Diff: 75 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: -2 | Attacks: 4d6 weapon physical, 6d6 cast spell | Alignment: 15 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 14:28 Any random string of characters you can throw together, is probably a monster in slex. 14:28 <@riker> apparently so :) 14:28 when I started playing nh 14:28 I thought dispater was called "dispatcher" 14:28 @@le?hawaiian shirt 14:28 hawaiian shirt ~7~ shy asian girl (s) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 3 | Attacks: 1d3 kick physical, 1d3 kick physical, 1d3 kick physical, 1d3 kick physical, 1d3 kick physical, 1d3 kick physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, oviparous 14:28 his name confused me too 14:28 That would make SENSE, FIQ 14:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 640 points, T:399, killed by a small crossbow bolt 14:29 isn't dispater a corruption of some roman pagan dog? 14:29 god 14:29 lol 14:29 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:29 The one I consistently misread for my first while, was Jubilex[sic]. 14:29 Yes 14:29 dis daddy 14:29 Dis Pater 14:29 I mean I read the lore on dispater the other day 14:29 he is, in fact, pretty good at... dispatching 14:29 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:29 Derived from D&D => Inferno of Dante Aligheri => Roman folklore 14:30 FIQ: I did that a while back too, was asking a bunch of questions while editing his page 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1161 14:30 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 36 points, T:148, killed by an orcish dagger 14:30 jonadab: I used to think he was Jubilex, too 14:30 I also discovered why he likes flesh to stone so much in dnh 14:31 in lore, he had a touch that could turn you into metal 14:31 which is sort of petrification 14:31 why isn't the bugfix working??? 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1193 14:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:560 14:32 I also found the perfect passive penalty for him 14:32 mass inventory rust 14:32 the other thing he could do with a touch 14:32 oh silly me, I didn't actually fix the bug, just thought that I did, recompiled, and was wondering why it was still bugged 14:32 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:21988 14:33 Yeah, I think I asked about Dispater having passive erosion 14:33 the best part is when you keep trying to fix a bug 14:33 I know I asked K2 14:33 and you probably had it right at one point 14:33 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:21992 14:33 Also asked about the metal thing too, I think 14:33 but you are running a build from somewhere other than where you're compiling to 14:33 so nothing is changing 14:33 hahaha, happened to me a while ago 14:34 i did give dispater a golden rod 14:34 "why isn't this crap working? oh, I'm on the wrong directory" 14:34 but some rust/corrosion attacks would be cool and appropriate 14:34 hi K2! gonna push a hotfix for the deathmold bug I discovered shortly 14:34 no 14:34 :/ 14:34 :P 14:34 <@riker> fiq you should make dispater instantly destroy all iron items on a level when he enters 14:34 K2: apparently he is able to rust all sorts of non-magical metal 14:34 <@riker> or spawns for the first time 14:34 but with the bug still in place, I won't be able to continue my character (well I would, but the bug would be endlessly annoying) 14:35 i *could* let dispater cast 'destroy armor' more often than other spellcasting monsters 14:35 <@riker> bonus points if this leads to regular crashes, especially if it just deletes an iron lamp or something without removing a timer somehow 14:35 which I'd take as "anything in the player's inventory that isn't a magical item, or an artifact, or an invocation item" 14:35 @riker that sounds mean 14:35 !PoM 14:35 APic: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 11 days. 14:35 the reason I read about dispater lore was because I have a gehennom plan 14:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 4504 points, T:1517, killed by a dwarf 14:36 FIQ: I once ended up with an entire source file duplicated (two copies of the source, one after the other, in the same file), in a language that used an "end" statement at the bottom of the file and ignored everything after that. About half of my bug fixes didn't take, for no obvious reason. That one drove me crazy for a while. 14:36 and while I could probably get away with mostly reusing vanilla stuff for the existing lords 14:36 only having to come up with a good passive 14:36 I need to figure out the other demon lords 14:36 oh, urgh, I also need to... *shudder* design levels 14:36 I have realized, from Pokémon romhacking, that I can't map, at all 14:37 FIQ: do it, I'll gladly stealstealsteal them for slex <3 *sweetheart bundle* 14:37 I don't expect to be any better at mapping NetHack levels 14:37 FIQ: Just grab a copy of one of the cave-ish Quest levels, flip it horizontally and/or vertically, and change the loot. Haha. 14:37 from what I understand of what bundle actually means 14:37 it doesn't sound nearly as threatening as LarienTelrunya makes it seem 14:37 K2: there's a bugfix commit at slex master that would like to go live :) 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6308 14:38 fixes bugged deathmold polymorph forms 14:38 jonadab: I would prefer not to take the barbarian quest goal approach to mapping 14:38 FIQ: But almost a third of the existing non-filler quest levels are made that way! 14:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1574 points, T:590, killed by Mr. Izchak, the shopkeeper 14:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 24 points, T:44, killed by a djinni 14:39 Except some of them don't bother with the flipping step. 14:39 YASI: open quest levels (and other open levels) mimic time of day lighting. The level is "unlit" during the night, "lit" during the dark 14:39 er 14:39 Oh, wow. 14:39 *lit during the day 14:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 595 points, T:1513, killed by a small crossbow bolt 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1936 points, T:2845, killed by a killer bee 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 958 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Bojolali's delicatessen, on T:1146 14:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1693 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7664 14:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2414 points, T:1814, killed by Ms. Tuktoyaktuk, the shopkeeper 14:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:21597 14:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 270 points, T:379, killed by a human zombie called tori 14:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 256 points, T:250, killed by a dart trap 14:59 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:6993 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3540 15:04 man I really shouldn't be coding today... decided to make a change to my elona variant, then fired up the game and wondered why it didn't take effect - turns out that this time I forgot to compile! 15:05 -!- Sluggoman has joined #hardfought 15:06 play slex instead 15:06 nah, have to wait until the deathmold bugfix goes live 15:06 play as wandkeeper 15:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:12965 15:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:12968 15:06 let's do a race for something like BOFH kill or something 15:06 actually I'm a sokosolver, nvm 15:07 that would be really unfun 15:07 unless I also pick sokosolver! 15:07 do it, I dare u 15:07 u wont 15:07 hah 15:07 @le?deathmold 15:07 deathmold (F) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 1 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 9 | Attacks: 1d1 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, breathless, mindless, nopoly, vegan 15:07 challenge accepted. 15:07 whats the bugfix? 15:07 it's if YOU are a deathmold NetSysFire 15:07 you poly into wrong stuff 15:07 log in now and abuse it gogogo 15:07 NetSysFire: hold my beer while I'm busy owning amateurhour :D 15:08 amateurhour: why do you want to poly into it 15:08 its weak af 15:08 no I mean if you're the race 15:08 bugfix: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/23d283fe 15:08 oh 15:08 it's one of the races you can pick 15:08 nvm then 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4040 15:09 @le?You missed the percenttpercenti 15:09 You missed the percenttpercenti ~1~ You missed the percenttpercenti! (~) | Lvl: 11 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -40 | Attacks: 3d2 weapon physical, 3d2 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 15:09 ^this was the form 15:09 actually, since I'll have to use a different account for this race, I need to ensure that my rcfile on hdf-us (yes I'm going to play on hdf-us :P ) matches the one on hdf-eu 15:09 so enjoy your head start amateurhour :D 15:09 I've already got a lil headstart, want me to pause and wait for you? 15:09 oh I could just start over on us as well I guess 15:10 what combo are you gonna do? 15:10 not sure yet 15:10 <@Shadow_Rider> ooh is this a race 15:11 it's gonna be the slowest race ever 15:11 if you want me to pick the same one you're playing, tell me what it is and I'll roll with that :) 15:11 Hi Rider 15:11 <@Shadow_Rider> hi umbiere 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4575 15:11 setseedslex when btw 15:11 <@Shadow_Rider> want to watch this unfold with me 15:11 I would if I didn't have a meeting in 20 15:11 yeah I'm not ready yet, need to copy over my rcfile from hdf-eu to us 15:11 <@Shadow_Rider> oh have fun 15:11 sure then how about, wandkeeper sokosolver wraith female lawful 15:12 Tuesdays are game nights 15:12 you can copy it in dgl Amy 15:12 okay, think I'm ready. any rules as to what the base race should be or can I pick any as long as I'm sokosolver wandkeeper? 15:13 amateurhour you ready too? 15:13 will brb a sec to switch back to other internet 15:13 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 15:14 luxidream do you want to comment on twitch :D 15:14 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 15:14 alright so: any rules as to what the base race should be or can I pick any as long as I'm sokosolver wandkeeper? 15:14 what're we racing to again? BOFH or something? 15:14 uhh not sure what we're racing for, maybe # of trophies :D (they can be viewed in the xlogfile once the games are over) 15:14 I thought you were gonna do wraith too, but if you're not copying that then I'm gonna do a diff race too haha 15:15 that's less a race and more of a marathon 15:15 which is a kind of race I guess 15:15 yeah let's just say each of us may pick their race if that's okay for you :) 15:15 but not really the kind I had in mind 15:15 what's the race that starts in the space base 15:15 oh, yeah we can do that too 15:15 outsider 15:15 then I'll also be one 15:16 alrighty, outsider sokosolver wandkeeper, first to BOFH wins? 15:16 first to beat the BOFH, yeah 15:16 gl hf 15:16 death means starting over :D 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 6672 points, T:5613, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted chameleon imitating a minotaur 15:16 let's see if one of us manages to finish! 15:18 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:18 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:18 stood on a nastytrap 15:18 lol 15:19 haha that was fast 15:19 ugh, nymph hall on second level in my game 15:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:13613 15:20 this nastytrap puts loads of red ^ on my screen 15:21 yeah that's the brown spell trap 15:21 if you cast a spell, a heap of shit spawns on your location 15:21 named that way because it's so crap? 15:21 heh 15:22 fucking hell I hate nymphs, especially when I'm not powerful enough to reliably kill them 15:23 so hard to do soko puzzles with half the squares obscured 15:23 I've messed up puzzles permanently 15:23 bleh 15:24 gonna start over this is ass 15:24 [hdf-us] [slex] amateurhour (Wan Out Fem Law) shouted "Screw nastytraps", on T:557 15:24 [hdf-us] [slex] amateurhour (Wan Out Fem Law), 13320 points, T:557, quit 15:24 lol 15:25 LarienTelrunya: huh you renamed slex 15:25 when did you do that 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Ran Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14427 15:25 a while ago 15:25 someone on reddit suggested the new name and I liked it :) 15:26 what was it renamed from/to? 15:26 [hdf-us] [slex] amateurhour (Wan Out Fem Law), 647 points, T:13, killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted nine of hearts) 15:26 2:0 for me already :D 15:26 and why was my request for windowtype:curses ignored 15:26 hey you can't change how the scoring works after we started 15:26 it's first to BOFH wins :P 15:26 yeah, but I'm also keeping track of deaths 15:27 qt: from Slash'EM Extended 15:27 the new one is uh 15:27 FIQ: curses is so bugged in slex that I disabled it, don't want to deal with constant crashes. 15:27 This is Sadistic Levels of Endless X-Citement (SLEX) 1997-2018 by Amy 15:27 oh 15:27 huh 15:27 LarienTelrunya: well rip me ever playing it again then 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Ran Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiteress, on T:14430 15:27 I guess it wasn't a huge loss 15:27 heh 15:28 honestly wasn't expecting you to play it again anyway 15:28 clearly I was about to 15:28 gah I'm getting mega lag spikes 15:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 142490 points, T:32172, killed by brainlessness 15:29 hopefully it's not again the landlady streaming something 15:29 LarienTelrunya: you didn't play fh this year's junethack wither :P 15:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:14108 15:29 yeah and I'm not planning to play non-slex variants again 15:29 not even dnh? 15:30 only dnhslex if at all 15:30 ok 15:30 -!- lacca[m] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 15:30 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 15:30 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 28 points, T:196, killed by an electric shock 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:25864 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3028 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 249400 points, T:29159, killed by a mastodon 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1896 points, T:3032, killed by a magic missile 15:33 oh no, the level with the peaceful watchmen 15:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 13 points, T:204, killed by a kobold zombie 15:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 57 points, T:112, killed by a jackal 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1385 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:26239 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 461 points, T:1557, killed by an exploding wand 15:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a green dragon, on T:23981 15:38 are you in the sewer plant Amy? 15:38 not yet 15:38 7th level of the space base 15:38 me neither, had to fall to floor below sewer entrance so doing that puzzle 15:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1394 points, T:640, killed by a dwarf 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 20370 points, T:7024, killed by a minotaur, while praying 15:38 getting lag spikes again 15:39 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Ran Elf Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:14601 15:41 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:42 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 98 points, T:285, killed by invisible Ms. Possogroenoe, the shopkeeper's magic missile 15:42 What do you think is the hardest on nethack 3.6 or 3.7 a proper winning streak like 2 win back to back or a speedrun in less than like 5 hours ? 15:42 Saxtheowl: Message from Umbire at 2021-07-12 16:48 EDT: Yeah, before 3.7. 15:43 I mean for me the problem with speedrun is that you will always find a lucky game if you start scum enough 15:43 wow some boulders can just be straight invisible Amy? 15:43 yes of course, they're items after all, and items can be invisible ;) 15:43 But you guyz know the game way more than me 15:43 I thought you had some kind of rule for soko 15:44 no, this is slex :P if slashem had such a rule, slex certainly doesn't have it 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2664 points, T:3302, killed by a vampire bat 15:46 I'm at the entrance to the sewers 15:46 the sewers are horrid on a sokosolver though 15:46 short break before sadness :P 15:47 heh 15:47 for real odds are this will be impossible 15:48 I'm also in the sewer now 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] grumlin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:34514 15:48 nooooooo 15:49 stupid submerged boulder moved into a moorland tile that was in a corner 15:49 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:49 oh god "horrid" is an understatement, this shit is making my brain explode :P 15:50 my trick to get you to experience it for yourself has worked >:) 15:50 hi LarienTelrunya 15:50 and now there's a temple with invisible priest 15:50 if I bump into him, game over 15:51 yep, and because sokosolver the temple is usually tiny 15:51 hi K2 ♥ 15:51 hi amateurhour ♥ 15:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Prospero (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:14761 15:51 so gnollhack is gonna go live here in the next day or so. Tommi and/or janne may pop in here to discuss gnollhack things. please dont badger them 15:51 if you have some constructive feedback, great 15:51 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 15:52 yeah sure, didn't intend to anyway 15:52 no badgering 15:52 OK, I won't 15:52 hah 15:52 mushroom mushroom 15:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 stormbringer", on T:1571 15:52 they probably have me on autoignore anyway so I might just as well keep my mouth shut :P 15:52 i knew it. LarienTelrunya is nabru 15:52 hah 15:52 nabru is LarienTelrunya 15:52 'Finkle IS Einhorn!' 15:52 What is gnollhack ? 15:53 okay sewer plant "done", except that I now have to get back out of it again 15:53 it's a nethack variant Saxtheowl 15:53 yeah Amy that's the trickies bit 15:53 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 195 points, T:640, killed by a killer mimic 15:53 my psyker had the jumping spell; this char ain't got shit 15:54 that said: K2 if I promise to just pretend that the gnollhack devs aren't there when they appear, is there a chance for the slex bugfix to go live? :) 15:54 yes i'll get to it soon 15:54 awesome! 15:54 there's fiqhack and slex commits i need to do tonight 15:54 man I'm running out of HP due to the moorland 15:54 and i need to update 370-hdf and setseed too 15:55 do I yolo my unided rings and hope to get regen? 15:55 Amy I'm throwing myself into water trying to cross it haha 15:55 damn you overtook me again!!! how the hell are you so fast 15:55 yeah Amy that's what it's like for me every time I do soko sewers 15:56 !whereis amateurhour 15:56 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] amateurhour [slex]: (Wan Out Fem Law) T:1907 Sewer Plant level: 47 15:56 !whereis AmyBSOD 15:56 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] AmyBSOD [slex]: (Wan Out Fem Neu) T:2123 Sewer Plant level: 42 15:57 fuck, now I have to cross a water tile too 15:57 s e e 15:57 told you it sucks 15:57 :'D 15:57 good thing scrolls of earth exist, who needs luck anyway :P 15:57 be nice 15:57 I begged you, b e g g e d, you to reconsider rivers and moorland in soko floors 15:57 no, they work as intended 15:58 at least we got poison res 15:58 a an ant or other insect (wax bee, in moorland) 15:58 ...but the tile looks like a wall on my screen 15:58 how the hell does my char know there's moorland :P 15:58 if there's moorland under a wall that can happen 15:59 The boulder falls into and plugs a hole in the water! 15:59 yep, gotta fill the water in separately I think 15:59 The wax bee zaps a wand of trap creation! You feel endangered!! 15:59 fooooooooooooooooooooooook 16:00 yep :/ 16:00 never should've given vespids technology 16:00 slex soko has rivers? 16:00 it can do K2 16:00 that's... interesting 16:00 which sucks so much it's unreal 16:00 do not add it to evilhack 16:00 do n o t 16:00 cease. 16:01 don't even think about it. 16:01 You have a sense of deja vu. 16:01 amnesia'd amy? 16:01 amateurhour, why are you encouraging K2 to add rivers to evilhack soko? 16:01 tinklebear: Message from Umbire at 2021-07-03 12:35 EDT: https://git.io/JcgkA 16:01 hah 16:01 as if having to do sewersokosolver wasn't bad enough, the mind flayer larva also made me forget one of the levels :P 16:02 that doesn't make much difference Amy, you still have to wiki the soko floor to figure out where the boulders even are :P 16:02 all working as intended :^) 16:02 dammit where's the stair 16:02 hahaha 16:02 I think this is gonna be close 16:03 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering corpse on an altar of Huan Ti, on T:3123 16:03 i dont intend to add any such abomination to soko 16:03 I wish I had a wand of cold... 16:04 seems that the stair was somehow made invisible 16:04 yeah I wonder how that could have happened? :^) 16:05 found it! was visible after all 16:07 oh damn I lost my scrolls of earth somehow 16:07 to water probs 16:07 damn it 16:07 should have read them to plug the water instead ;) 16:07 needed them for this floor 16:07 anyway I'm out of the sewer plant 16:07 planned it in advance 16:07 -!- ssnufd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:07 you're gonna win then probs 16:08 heh, maybe 16:08 gamma caves will suck too, probably going to get fatal contamination 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 586 points, T:2280, killed by a giant mimic 16:10 gamma caves is fine 16:10 no rivers 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 644 points, T:2104, killed by a gas spore's explosion 16:11 think I 200iq solved it 16:12 yay got XL9 from forcing a farmland out of existence :D 16:12 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:12 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:14 out of the sewers! 16:14 lol the gamma caves open up just like the second space base level: inside a nymph hall 16:15 wand of fireball, go! 16:15 it helps that I'm polymorphed into a nymph myself, so I'm highly resistant to their theft attempts 16:15 lucky! 16:15 I want that wand, still relying on charging magic missile here 16:16 okay nymphs all dead now 16:17 -!- Xjs has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:18 # - a wand of create monster (0:33) {0}. 16:18 great thanks, just what I wanted 16:18 are you being sarcastic or is there an actual strat (e.g. sacfesting) you're gonna attempt? 16:18 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 16:18 sarcasm, I need some attack wands :P 16:18 not seen an altar at all 16:19 gamma caves done! 16:19 oooh got see invis on the second quaff 16:19 again I need to get out of them now 16:19 Amy wtf 16:19 scammed 16:19 oh lol 16:19 look at my game I'm at the bottom of the gamma caves 16:19 do you have a pick-axe? 16:19 how on earth would I have a pickaxe 16:20 dunno, maybe a random monster dropped one 16:20 scammed :P 16:20 can't dig into soko anyway 16:21 so pick would do nothing 16:21 just get me closer and press my face against the walls to wash them with my tears 16:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5183 16:21 well you could wait until one of those portal-things happens that teleports you to a random square 16:21 that's gotta be what I'll try 16:21 but will probs die to radiation first 16:21 or if you're really lucky, you have a scroll of relocation 16:22 could also try wands of digging or opening, or the panic digging tech 16:22 why would any of those work? 16:22 soko walls are undiggable 16:22 the outside ones that are diggable would just lead me closer 16:22 as I said earlier, sometimes the walls outside of the regular soko perimeter are diggable 16:23 if you get lucky, there'll be an opening somewhere that would allow you to get to the regular part again 16:23 The kitten bites the furry. The furry is killed! 16:23 if not, though, you're out of luck I guess 16:23 can't cross lava 16:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4585 16:23 even if there's an opening for that 16:24 gonna eat my amulet 16:24 > You are only lethally contaminated now. 16:24 lol 16:25 dead 16:25 rip 16:25 [hdf-us] [slex] amateurhour (Wan Out Fem Law), 33553 points, T:7488, killed by a monster (foam demon) 16:25 I give up, if you beat the BOFH at all you win 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 186 points, T:1274, killed by a boulder 16:26 heh, not sure if I can do it but I'll try 16:26 this was fun, we should do it again sometime 16:26 :) 16:26 shame about getting utterly s c a m m e d 16:26 :P 16:26 dammit kroo read a scroll of root pw detection 16:26 you did well, if the RNG hadn't been so mean you might have won 16:27 oh haha, elven boots are calf-leather sandals again 16:27 !lastgame amateurhour 16:27 amateurhour: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1626204379.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1626189570.slex.txt 16:27 was like that for my librarian too 16:27 peak contamination was 1022 16:28 gah that was a wand of remove curse, and it fell through the hole now so I absolutely have to get it back 16:28 problem is, the floor below is hell 16:28 rip amateurhour 16:28 ooh yes, good find 16:28 hey NetSysFire next time we do this do you want to take part too? 16:28 no i think i will pass 16:28 not goot at soko 16:28 well the good part is that you can skip most of the soko floors 16:29 the bad part is the ones you can't skip can be impossible 16:29 I'm okay at Soko but I don't think I'd have the patience 16:29 we don't have to do sokosolver ;) could just decide on a role, pair it with outsider, and race! 16:29 true! 16:29 what's outsider 16:29 playable race that starts in the ZAPM branch 16:29 the space base is definitely the best branch in slex imo 16:29 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11217 points, T:5364, killed by a dwarvish vampire mage's finger of death 16:30 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:30 damn I'm starting to get serious eyestrain 16:30 slow down then, no rush anymore 16:31 or save it till tomorrow 16:31 how about I play until I'm out of the gamma caves and then continue tomorrow ;) 16:31 9 additional charges from recharging the empty wand of fireball, nice 16:32 nice 16:32 did you get some good starting wands? 16:32 will hopefully get me through any bad throngs of monsters 16:32 yeah a wand of fire; don't know if the fireball one was also part of the starting inventory or found somewhere 16:32 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 16:32 other starting ones were undead turning, sdd, opening and suchlike 16:33 oh and an additional magic missile one on top of the two guaranteed ones 16:33 having level tele wand would probs be the best starting wand 16:33 nearly killed moldoux again 16:33 nah you can't levelport until you get out of the space base 16:33 oh, not even within the sewers? 16:33 nope 16:33 isn't that the requirement to leave? 16:33 completing the sewers, yes 16:34 however you'd need controlled levelport to be able to pull off a 200IQ "just skip most of the gamma caves and mainframe" strat 16:34 yeah, so couldn't you level tele once reaching the bottom of the sewers? 16:34 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:15244 16:34 once you actually get out of the space base you could 16:34 oh, I wasn't thinking of that, just getting out of the sewers easier 16:34 the exit opens when you finish the sewers, but levelporting isn't restored until you use the pink upstair on the top space base level 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:77422 16:34 ah 16:35 also if you do, the monster difficulty starts using the actual depth, instead of counting the first space base level as 1 16:35 the sewers are where most of my sokosolvers go to die 16:35 like a rat trap 16:35 so if your char isn't properly leveled and the space base started deep, you'll suddenly encounter much higher-level monsters :P 16:35 0 gold pieces. 16:35 wait what 16:35 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 16:35 how can i pick these up 16:35 lololol 16:35 omg don't tell me there's another gold bug 16:35 watch me 16:36 can you autopickup gold 16:36 yes 16:36 damn don't play so fast for fucks sake, how am I supposed to follow what is going on 16:36 well its already gone 16:36 fuck 16:36 its this kobold fortress 16:36 how could that happen 16:36 kobolds picking up stuff 16:36 i just entered this room 16:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:36 oh wait you automatically picked them up 16:36 or maybe also fog clouds/engulfing monsters? 16:37 and the game didn't crash? 16:37 no i actually dont have auto pickup for gold 16:37 i am only half awake so i didnt notice it was saying 0 gold 16:37 and no, no crash 16:37 dang something must be bugged there 16:37 inb4 "works as intended" 16:37 my guess would be haxor 16:37 * NetSysFire renames to omghax 16:38 it's not a bug it's a happy little feature 16:38 nah, piles of 0 gold pieces are definitely a bug because IIRC ais523 discovered (when he experimented with antigold) that they can cause the game to crash under certain circumstances 16:38 i dont have any gold in my inv 16:38 sometimes the game mocks you and says 'you could have gotten loads of gold here but u got 0' 16:38 oh wait i think i had a few coins but now i have none 16:38 NetSysFire: you have 350, according to the status line 16:38 in my chest 16:38 no theres 315 16:38 the inventory displays gold only if you use the drop or putstuffintocontainer menus, not if you open your inventory normally 16:39 okay my gold is invisible 16:39 is this a nastytrap? 16:39 your actual amount of carried gold is shown on the bottom status line 16:39 ........ 16:39 yeah I know you're not fully awake, but it has always been like this 16:39 i can d$ and drop 350 pieces 16:39 ....... 16:39 please read what I posted a few lines above! 16:39 + LarienTelrunya 16:39 and when i pick them up again it vanishes again 16:39 the inventory displays gold only if you use the drop or putstuffintocontainer menus, not if you open your inventory normally 16:39 crashem extended coredumps 16:40 LarienTelrunya: i still have the 315 coins in my chest 16:40 and i just dropped 350 goldcoins 16:40 DUDE 16:40 -!- Sluggoman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:40 ITS BUGGED 16:40 please *r e a d* what I posted above! 16:40 i did 16:40 you haven't even read it! 16:40 gold displays normally 16:40 what do you mean 16:40 fine let me demonstrate 16:41 wait no you are right 16:41 yeah 16:41 i misunderstood you 16:41 but the 0 gold is still a bug 16:41 but that $ to the left of you, is that still a 0$ pile? 16:42 yall abt to start speaking german 16:42 ah apparently it's not 16:42 but yeah the 0 gold is the actual bug 16:42 no 16:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:19108 16:42 i picked it up and nothing happened 16:43 yeah that might be safe then, I don't know the specific action that crashes the game 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:742 16:43 begone lich 16:43 oh, potentially if you somehow manage to create a second 0$ pile on a tile that already has one, and the game tries to average their weights and throws a SIGFPE 16:43 because it's trying to merge them 16:43 epic 16:44 same happens with normal items 16:44 bte 16:44 if you stack two zero stacks of normal items it'll crash for the same reason 16:44 you used to be able to in dnh with doll purchases but I decided to report it instead of abuse it 16:44 yeah, it's just probably most common for gold because that's easier to overflow 16:45 theres a bit of 0 gold again 16:45 didnt pick it up yet 16:45 gaaaaaah 16:45 probably the kobolds 16:45 drop all your other gold then move over and pick it up :^) 16:45 something bugged with the kobold level apparently? 16:45 i read the good cause artifact scroll 16:45 on the level 16:45 dunno if thats relevant 16:45 maybe the kobolds were carrying those gold pieces? 16:45 inb4 works as intended 16:45 i dont know i am not a wizard 16:46 but lets see, how high would be the penalty if i kill my pet kobolds? 16:46 You feel sensitive! You feel your vision sharpen! You feel unafraid! You learn how to perform zap em! 16:46 nice one, xlvl 10 I gues 16:46 wow, lot of stuff from gaining XL10 16:46 the latter two must be from outsider race 16:46 NetSysFire: wouldn't help, because they'll have dropped their gold already 16:46 [hdf-us] [slth] dna (Fla Inc Fem Cha), 1931 points, T:857, quit 16:47 why do they drop their gold 16:47 pets will quickly drop stuff they don't need, which includes gold; they're most probably not carrying any now 16:47 (vanilla behavior) 16:48 do you have all the information you need or what should i do to gather it? 16:48 well the information is insufficient to really be able to say what is causing it, but I'm not sure how to get more from your current game 16:48 * NetSysFire looks at K2 16:49 so for now I'd just say keep playing and see if it happens somewhere else, maybe there'll be something in common 16:49 naaaah if the game didn't throw any impossibles, there'll be nothing in the panic log 16:51 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:51 but maybe he knows how to omghax the game and give it wiz mode or debug mode or something 16:51 nah there's no wizard mode on the server IIRC 16:51 second magic resistance get boulder I see in this game 16:52 maybe he can get the save and send it to you 16:52 yes, that could be a possibility; I could then compile a version with wizmode and load it there! 16:52 -!- lacca[m] has joined #hardfought 16:53 V - a } wand of death (0:1) {0}. 16:54 e z BOFH kill then 16:54 good thing no monster got that one (I'm magic resistant anyway, but monsters could have wasted the charge) 16:55 WIS loss triggered 16:55 only 7 WIS left now 16:55 eh you'll probs be fine 16:55 weren't in the gamma caves that long 16:55 just walk it off 16:55 still am though 16:55 oh 16:55 i am going to stop my run for now, i #saved and wait for K2 to appear 16:55 ohhhhh, I thought you were done with the gamme caves 16:55 heh, I wish 16:56 you might die then 16:56 thanks NetSysFire :) 16:56 np 16:56 what happened to the remove curse wand? 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2265 16:56 and yes, for once it was an actual bug 16:56 well the remove curse wand is on a level I don't dare going back to 16:56 lethal contamination now 16:56 are you sure it's not a nastytrap? :^) 16:56 not completely sure; my guess is still that it's a bug with the haxor 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2533 16:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:58 baaaaah of course I have to solve this top gamma caves level too 16:59 of course I screwed it up again! 16:59 or can it be salvaged without using a hole? 16:59 yep 17:00 that's one of the rare few soko floors with extra boulders 17:00 okay so this is bad 17:00 also don't forget you can #monster 17:00 for a boulder 17:00 this zombie bastard hit me with an item teleportation attack and now my stuff is scattered all around 17:00 ah 17:01 gotta hope I can find it all again before some monsters start using it 17:01 once you're out you can pray or something for contamination 17:01 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 17:01 yes, if I had a readily available coaligned altar 17:01 why, is your god angry? 17:02 no, but I don't have a coaligned altar 17:02 what do you need one for? 17:02 to pray to get rid of the contamination, obviously 17:02 just clap your hands together and think real hard 17:02 same as dnethack 17:02 if you just pray anywhere at random, the contamination won't get fixed 17:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 17:03 there goes another point of WIS 17:03 when I prayed in the gamma caves it did, was that just lucky? 17:03 -!- sleepless has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03 wtf it did? 17:03 yes... 17:03 you weren't on an altar? 17:03 nope 17:03 and fatally contaminated now 17:04 what are you doing? 17:04 trying to wake this stupid dog 17:05 how long till you die? 17:05 from fatal contamination I mean 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:77675 17:05 when my WIS goes below 3, instadeath 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3164 17:06 and whenever I get an attribute exercise check, I lose one 17:06 !tell K2 found a slex bug, would you mind sending amy my save for debugging? i #save'd already 17:06 I'm on it, NetSysFire. 17:06 when that happens is actually dependant on rng 17:06 stop being so passive aggressive, Beholder :p 17:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:19529 17:08 ah so you'll probs live then 17:10 finally that stupid thing behind the boulder died 17:10 LarienTelrunya: what death message do you get when you die of low wisdom? 17:10 uhh don't remember 17:10 "killed by being consumed by the contamination" I think 17:10 I think if it's because of contamination it's that 17:10 That's from vanilla, dying of low wisdom, right? 17:10 nah vanilla has stat insteadeath only for INT 17:11 not str as well? 17:11 and str stat if ur a spellcaster :P 17:11 (can't cast under 6 str) 17:11 or whatever 17:11 no actual instadeath 17:11 if your str is reduced below 3 by poison, you lose maximum HP, which can eventually kill you 17:11 am i just pulling shit out of my ass 17:12 at least in the vanilla I know, you can cast as long as your str is at least 4; you need 10 str to be able to break a wand 17:12 maybe thats what im thinking of 17:12 or maybe excessive encumbrance as well idk 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:26360 17:13 now I need to defeat all those kobolds 17:13 magic missile maybe 17:13 my fear is that they might be holding some of my wands 17:14 a lot of filtered helmets... did you wear that for the sewers? 17:14 nah, just found them now, they weren't mine 17:15 I wish slex had the smooth con hp thing that dnh has 17:15 so you're not turboscammed by starting with like 6 con or whatever 17:15 oh no the dock security woke up 17:16 You die of helplessness in vanilla if your STR hits 3 or lower 17:16 pretty sure 17:16 fireball time Amy? 17:16 magic missile (the dock security is immune to fire) 17:16 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 90 points, T:240, killed by a water moccasin 17:17 also damn the dagger skill doesn't want to go up 17:17 ah finally 17:18 gun and bullets might be good, though your run is nearly over 17:18 ?! I'm not going to quit this char when I off the BOFH lol 17:18 fair enough :P 17:18 -!- qpl23 has joined #hardfought 17:18 why are all those knives cursed? did I roll "this item is always generated cursed: knife"? 17:19 byebye gamma caves! 17:19 woot 17:20 [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 878 points, T:1289, poisoned by a killer bee 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4703 17:20 gonna pray? 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:4711 17:20 as I said already, that doesn't help 17:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of conflict", on T:27461 17:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3118 17:21 will haved to ponder my next step, probably gonna have to scale the depths of the gamma caves again and get that wand 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4746 17:21 is it a major trouble? 17:21 of course that would kill my time if the race was still going on, but if I try to press on I'll just die 17:22 contamination isn't considered a trouble, but if you pray successfully on a coaligned altar, it's cured 17:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:27464 17:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:27465 17:22 guess you never had to deal with it in dnethack or always had remove curse/effigies (the latter aren't in slex) ;) 17:23 talking about weeping angel contamination? 17:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:27470 17:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 9135 points, T:5574, killed by a Green-elf, while sleeping off a magical draught 17:23 oh and for future race events: we don't have to restrict ourselves to the outsider race, because putting "OPTIONS=zapem" in the config file also starts us in the space base ;) (but that renders games ineligible for junethack) 17:24 well if we're gonna race during July we might as well make sure they're eligible for Junethack 17:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1291 points, T:3642, killed by a bolt of lightning 17:24 hahaha 17:25 So for whatever reason I decide to leave my BoH on the floor while I heave a giant corpse to an altar. Tracey (my tame Olog Hai) picks up the bag. Fair enough 17:25 Tracy removes a wand of wishing from the dragonhide bag of holding named Bag of 17:25 the Hesperides 17:25 Tracy zaps a wand of wishing! 17:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:19982 17:25 wtf 17:25 For a moment, Tracy had something in its claws, but it disappears. 17:26 exact same, two more times. 17:26 Tracy puts a wand of wishing (0:0) into her dragonhide bag of holding named Bag 17:26 of the Hesperides. 17:26 scammed 17:26 Evilhack - justly named! 17:27 that's... ouch 17:27 Would have been nice to see what she wished for though.. 17:27 mobileuser, watch out for that^ 17:29 Leaving your wishing wand around was the big mistake 17:29 maybe she wished for world peace and it was just beyond the gods' abilities 17:29 Bagged or no 17:29 wow... 17:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased Wallet of Perseus", on T:8553 17:29 Yeah, I see that now. At least she didn't wrest that last nonexistent charge :) 17:29 Speaking of bags 17:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:27556 17:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:27557 17:30 qt: a nice thought! 17:31 then again idk what would 'appear in her hands for a moment' if she wished for world peace. a dove? nobel prize? lol 17:31 Supersize scroll of taming? 17:33 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 17:33 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33 alright, gotta sleep so totally. thanks for racing with me amateurhour ♥ 17:34 gotta sleep too 17:34 seeya! 17:34 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:34 good night, and dream of reaching the mainframe and killing the BOFH! :D 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 256 points, T:617, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:34 haha too late I guess 17:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:35 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:36 -!- entuland has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:2, poisoned by a little dart 17:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:16440 17:43 rip Karnac 17:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 332 points, T:1033, killed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food 17:47 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5156 points, T:3605, killed by a gnomish werewolf 17:47 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 17:47 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 167 points, T:301, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed the Nightmare, on T:20352 17:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:28893 18:01 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:12330 18:06 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 18:06 go Graznop 18:06 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 18:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3775 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an Uruk-hai, on T:12706 18:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 190 points, T:1286, killed by an arrow 18:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:29096 18:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:29111 18:15 -!- qpl23 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1056 points, T:1866, killed by a hill orc 18:19 -!- entuland has joined #hardfought 18:21 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 362 points, T:1593, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping 18:21 what a punishing game, can't even take a power nap in peace 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 490 points, T:1252, killed by a dwarf queen 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:13335 18:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:29162 18:26 [hdf-us] [slex] Hekik (Sai Nib Mal Cha), 1261 points, T:1521, killed by brainlessness 18:27 !lastgame Hekik 18:27 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/Hekik/slex/dumplog/1626213918.slex.txt 18:27 Oh that absolutely tracks 18:27 Not even the decency of a mines spawn, game just goes "fuck you" 18:29 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 18:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:29187 18:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 647068 points, T:29187, ascended 18:31 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Graznop/nethack/dumplog/1625943737.nh.html 18:31 Geeg 18:31 wp 18:32 Thanks. Always more to learn though... 18:32 Yahuh 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3591 18:33 <@Shadow_Rider> !pom 18:33 @Shadow_Rider: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 11 days. 18:34 <@Shadow_Rider> gg Graznop! 18:35 Thx ShadowR 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:5458 18:37 <@Shadow_Rider> + 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5695 18:40 !source 18:40 cccrow: https://github.com/NHTangles/beholder 18:40 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 18:41 <@luxidream> !rng sleepers | reponsible and normal sleep schedule 18:41 @luxidream: sleepers 18:41 <@luxidream> zzz 18:42 rippers 18:43 sleep well in any event 18:43 <@riker> gnight luxi 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:7400 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:7469 18:46 !pom 18:46 Grasshopper: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 11 days. 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 holy charging", on T:9165 18:51 <@Shadow_Rider> bleh too lazy 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:9165 18:52 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) became Venus' Envoy of Balance, on T:26990 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed master key of thievery", on T:9898 18:56 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:10844 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:10875 18:59 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:10992 19:00 <@luxidream> !pom 19:00 @luxidream: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 11 days. 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed bugle", on T:11309 19:04 why would you wish for a bugle 19:04 time to read wiki 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:11626 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:11627 19:06 tonal and scary 19:06 speedrun 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh4] Owen (owen) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 35392 points, T:3204, killed by a bolt of fire 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:27657 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:12874 19:09 why a bugle instead of a tooled horn 19:09 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:23166 19:10 doesn't the bugle have the disadvantage of boosting soldiers' stats or whatever 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 stormbringer", on T:13007 19:10 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 19:11 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:13 <@luxidream> bugle is cooler 19:14 [hdf-au] [dnh] cccrow (Sam Hlf Fem Law), 4762 points, T:2095, killed by a winter wolf cub 19:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 23331 points, T:9599, killed by an erinys 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:13601 19:14 lol as if 19:15 bugle sucks 19:15 someone needs to make an accurate bugle patch where it can only play C G E and Bsharp 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed enchant armor named dont judge", on T:13626 19:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 96 points, T:122, killed by a sewer rat 19:16 I guess it's Bflat that a bugle can play actually 19:16 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:16 <@luxidream> b sharp is 19:17 <@luxidream> C 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:13789 19:17 ok so it can play B sharp lol 19:17 isn't there some bizarre music theory reason that they are treated differently sometimes? 19:17 even though they sound the same? 19:18 I never understood that 19:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:21394 19:18 <@luxidream> b sharp and C? 19:18 you mead D flat? 19:19 *mean 19:19 yeah or generally two notes that are the 'same' but can be written as a flat or sharp 19:19 oh Dflat flat 19:19 <@luxidream> has to do with key signatures I think 19:20 <@luxidream> 0 sharps = key of C 19:20 <@luxidream> 1 sharp = key of G, etc 19:21 -!- Sluggoman has joined #hardfought 19:21 enharmonics 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:14427 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:18314 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:14702 19:22 that's it cccrow, thanks 19:22 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 19:23 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 127 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:14940 19:23 welcome 19:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 1308 points, T:1294, killed by a small dart 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:15402 19:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:21746 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 249 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:15411 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 163778 points, T:16250, quit 19:30 <@luxidream> !lastgame shadowrider 19:31 @luxidream: No last game for shadowrider. 19:31 <@luxidream> !lastgame shadowrider38 19:31 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/nethack/dumplog/1626214996.nh.html 19:31 <@Shadow_Rider> no dont look 19:31 <@luxidream> what uh 19:31 <@luxidream> seems to be the problem 19:32 <@Shadow_Rider> the problem was my laziness 19:32 <@Shadow_Rider> i was not mentally prepared to finish that 19:32 <@luxidream> that's fine 19:32 <@luxidream> nothing wrong with that 19:33 <@Shadow_Rider> wait what is ur best on barbarian? 19:35 <@Shadow_Rider> this run was an accident 19:37 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:37 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40 <@luxidream> huh it;s only like 1:20 19:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:22025 19:42 -!- entuland has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a magical purple spellbook given to him by Thoth, on T:20222 19:48 ;o 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 246825 points, T:29616, killed by a lieutenant 19:51 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:52 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: later] 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:21209 20:01 so 20:02 I just processed that pet intrinsics are also a giant nerf to inediates 20:02 wat r u waiting for rider of shadows 20:02 -!- Sluggoman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:06 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:09 <@Shadow_Rider> ? 20:14 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 20:14 <@nabru> ! 20:15 ‽ 20:17 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:18 go beat luxi's 80-min barb 20:26 -!- sleepless has joined #hardfought 20:40 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Ang Mal Law), 46 points, T:429, killed by a serval 20:52 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1596 points, T:1180, killed by a gnomish lord 20:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] sohlman (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3886 points, T:1648, killed by a crossbow bolt 20:55 @v?hezrou 20:55 hezrou (&) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 6 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 55 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -2 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 claw physical, 4d4 bite physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: poisonous, demon, stalker, infravisible 21:03 [backscroll] qt, that monster tried to wish for an artifact 21:03 K2: Message from NetSysFire at 2021-07-13 17:06 EDT: found a slex bug, would you mind sending amy my save for debugging? i #save'd already 21:04 just really bad RNG luck that it tried 3 times in a row 21:04 Ew 21:05 What're the fucking odds 21:08 or perhaps it tried to wish for world peace 21:08 you never know 21:08 I prefer to think the best of the monsters unless they give me a reason to think otherwise :) 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2051 21:19 [hdf-us] [spl] sohlman (Bar Mer Fem Neu), 433 points, T:727, killed by a dwarf king 21:20 every time i look at my screen i wonder when my vision is gonna start to go 21:29 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:4667 21:42 -!- qt has quit [Quit: goodnight] 21:45 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 25372 points, T:7362, petrified by a cockatrice 21:49 !who 21:49 K2: [hdf-us] tsimons [nh370] sleepless [nh370] Frozty [nh370] ssnufd [nh370] sohlman [sp] luxor [slshm] | [hdf-au] No current players | [hdf-eu] joosa [nh370] 21:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:32788 21:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59 [hdf-us] [sp] sohlman (Ran Dwa Mal Neu), 802 points, T:1513, killed by a giant spider 21:59 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:1918 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Orcranger's ghost, the former Troglodyte, on T:2471 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:2510 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3035 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3070 22:12 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 169 points, T:460, killed by an electric shock 22:12 [hdf-us] [fh] sohlman (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 25015 points, T:1160, killed by a little dog 22:12 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:13 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 41 points, T:720, killed by a dwarf 22:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) murdered Nyan San, his faithful blue dragon, on T:33355 22:19 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 516 points, T:855, killed by a hobbit 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:4070 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 808 points, T:1907, killed by a rothe 22:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:34053 22:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) genocided class L, on T:34056 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:5012 22:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "+2 blessed gray dragon scale mail", on T:34309 22:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed charging", on T:34329 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:5317 22:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Excavator, on T:34451 22:51 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3028 22:54 [hdf-us] [sp] sohlman (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 1078 points, T:1461, killed by a giant spider 22:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:17278 22:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8318 23:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Cav Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4511 23:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4545 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:12314 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:12319 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] rahn (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:10, killed by a water elemental 23:18 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 23:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Ran Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11437 23:27 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: later] 23:35 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:20451