00:01 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:03 <@Shadow_Rider> No 00:03 <@Shadow_Rider> Orb of fate is not lawful artifact 00:03 <@Shadow_Rider> I learned this hard way 00:03 yeah, but won't I just get blasted by the power and then be okay? 00:04 <@Shadow_Rider> It will evade your grasp 00:04 <@Shadow_Rider> Since it’s not your quest artifact 00:04 <@FIQ> crossaligned quest artifacts evade your grasp 00:05 ah, right. okay. 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] secra (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1269 points, T:2076, killed by an invisible gnome 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:14909 00:22 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1944, rt[0:04:07] 00:23 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2139, rt[0:04:47] 00:24 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2586, rt[0:06:12] 00:32 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:12707 00:36 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5315, rt[0:17:41] 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12741 00:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:44 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:7918, rt[0:26:01] 00:46 gold golems should really provide more gold. 00:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ran Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4437 00:47 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 274 points, T:1215, killed by a corpseworm 00:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:50 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 9566 points, T:8459, killed by a knife 00:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:54 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:58 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:58 13k turns can i get a mummy wrap please 00:58 shops i saw on turn 800 still havent went in hah 00:59 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 01:01 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:14333, rt[0:43:12] 01:05 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:15128, rt[0:47:29] 01:06 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 115512 points, T:15133, [0:47:36], killed by a carnivorous ape 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:13565 01:10 not doing well, just woke up and thought I was under attack, still thinking about the 90% situation thing but in my sleep:( 01:13 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 1171 points, T:2124, killed by a dwarf 01:28 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 417 points, T:1037, killed by a gnome king 01:37 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:14492 01:59 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 541 points, T:1609, killed by handling a stethoscope 02:00 <@Earth Traveler> ...ouch 02:00 Lmfao 02:00 surprised no one thought to go for elf deaths during Junethack 02:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:00 xnh/evil/splice elves were prime territory for unique deaths in retrospect 02:02 -!- ssnufd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5267 02:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided class m, on T:58293 02:20 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Dra Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:36495 02:25 <@Earth Traveler> wow 02:25 <@Earth Traveler> my gehennom has rodney above orcus :/ 02:31 LMAO 02:32 I tend to take the more common floor orders for granted so I (sometimes) forget that's a thing that can happen 02:34 <@Earth Traveler> it also has baalzebub above juiblex 02:36 I mean that tends to be the norm for me 02:37 heh I forgot that the gnollhack server doesn't have an idletime limit 02:37 oh yeah that reminds me 02:37 !tell K2 I don't know what the GnollHack developers did, but unlike hardfought's, their dgamelaunch is actually able to handle resizes properly. Perhaps port that to hdf? 02:37 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 02:40 Interesting 02:40 I decided to fire up a gnollhack game 02:40 decided on priest 02:40 Also I've been working out ideas for a future variant and I've been on the fence about adapting your wand rebalance thing 02:40 (or a form of it) 02:41 though 99% of that is "I should probably have a concrete game formed first and then decide how well it'd fit in" 02:41 within the first 2 dungeon levels, I've found: +5 gain constitution ring, +3 elven cloak and a means of sickness resistance and an item that sets my str to 18/76 02:41 some quite good luck 02:41 18/76 specifically...? 02:41 yes 02:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:60062 02:41 also my current mobile valk found fuckin' 02:41 y) an uncursed nose ring of bull strength (on nose) (57 g) 02:41 +5 CPM and +2 mummy wrapping 02:41 >nose rings 02:41 huh. 02:42 Kinda novel, that 02:42 gnollhack has various misc slots 02:42 I also found this thing, for example 02:42 j) an uncursed beak-shaped mask (being worn) (142 g) 02:42 it's what grants me sickness resistance 02:42 >plague doctor masks 02:42 wtf I love gnollhack now 02:45 <@Earth Traveler> is fire brand even damaging these shades 02:46 <@Earth Traveler> the game says it is, but this thing has stayed upright for a while 02:47 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 02:47 Might only be taking blessed damage if that 02:48 <@Earth Traveler> it says "The fiery blade burns the shade!" 02:48 <@Earth Traveler> and the wiki says artifacts can damage shades 02:49 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:50 <@Earth Traveler> might be a bug 02:52 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:52 Sunsword didn't work on shades for the longest 02:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:56 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:59 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 03:16 <@Earth Traveler> the vibrating square is hiding from me 03:20 do you manually find it or something? 03:21 <@Earth Traveler> alright found it 03:21 not gold detect or crystal ball? 03:21 <@Earth Traveler> yeah i always do it manually 03:21 huh 03:38 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:43 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:38335 03:43 -!- kucimg has joined #hardfought 03:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38336 03:49 apparently gnollhack is allergic to non-round numbers for exp 03:49 it has lines that look like this for their exp gain formula: 03:49 if (total_level_exp >= 2000000) 03:49 total_level_exp = (total_level_exp / 100000) * 100000; 03:49 else if (total_level_exp >= 1000000) 03:49 total_level_exp = (total_level_exp / 50000) * 50000; 03:49 ... 03:50 a very elaborate way of saying "round exp gain down to nearest multiple of (this)" 03:50 amateurhour: I'm very close to being able to test your save and hopefully figure out what's going on 03:52 lmfao sheesh FIQ 03:55 long exp_needed_long = ((long)(exp_needed / 10L) + 1L) * 10L; // Round up to the closest 10 03:55 I don't think this does what they think it does 03:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:64972 03:59 lol 04:00 -!- kucimg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:65218 04:02 alright amateurhour we get signal. https://pastebin.com/raw/SjpnHQBm 04:03 apparently the crash is caused by some bogus monster at coordinates 23641008,8252 04:03 even though the playing field is only 79x21 in size! 04:05 <@Earth Traveler> a monster hidden in the eldritch outer layers of slex 04:05 how do I go back and forth in the stack with gdb again? want to get to the line where mtmp is defined, so I can query its details 04:05 wanna know the identity of the monster 04:06 oh, apparently with the frame command? 04:07 (gdb) p mtmp->data->mname $6 = 0x4e6c36 "librarian" 04:07 so it's one of the librarians who's crashing 04:08 <@Earth Traveler> that monster is literally almost 50 miles off the edge of the screen lol 04:08 hmm, the coordinates of the librarian are okay though, 56,14 04:08 how can you do gdb on *hack? 04:08 they're on their own server cccrow 04:08 maybe then it's some buggy item used by the librarian 04:08 im trying it on local 04:09 you can use `up` and `down` to change frame Amy if you wanted to go to use_misc 04:09 ah, but I already used "frame 2" to jump to exactly that frame :) 04:09 if ((i = precheck(mtmp, otmp)) != 0) return i; 04:09 apparently it fails in the precheck somewhere 04:10 if (pm) symbiomon = makemon(pm, cc.x, cc.y, MM_ANGRY); 04:10 that's gotta be it! 04:10 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:10 cc must be pointing to those faulty coordinates, now I just need to figure out why 04:11 hey Amy didn't you add a guard for MON_AT? 04:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 102199 points, T:17226, killed by a xan, while praying 04:11 guess it's not in the live version 04:12 well I guess having such a guard could be useful 04:12 but the thing is, because I'm stupid, that particular potion doesn't properly set cc 04:13 so, symbio and microbiotic potions can crash the game when used by monsters 04:13 need to fix that 04:13 hopefully this means I can be unscammed and loot the library :) 04:13 man that took a while to figure out... but yes, if I properly fix it, you should be able to play on that level normally ♥ 04:14 and yeah even on esm it didn't create a core dump when I just ran it normally; had to attach gdb 04:14 sounds worth fixing 04:14 thank all the heavens that I managed to compile a version that's compatible with the one on hdf-eu so I could get the save to load ♥ thanks again K2! 04:16 so what do symbio and microbiotic potions do? 04:16 oh, found it on nethackwiki 04:16 they summon monsters when quaffed, and if I wasn't so stupid, those monsters would appear at their proper locations 04:16 yeah but what sort of monster I mean 04:17 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Dra Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:36767 04:17 stationary ones and fungi, respectively 04:17 oh 04:17 makes sense 04:18 alright now I have a local game on my dev machine where microbiotic potions are of a type that monsters will actually quaff, so I should be able to reproduce the error 04:19 yep segfaulted :D 04:20 also it's now obvious why the game was crashing every time for you: because the librarian would quaff the potion whenever he got close enough to you 04:20 -!- amateurh1ur has joined #hardfought 04:20 -!- amateurhour has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by amateurh1ur!~george@46.43.176.11))] 04:21 -!- amateurh1ur is now known as amateurhour 04:21 wrote a fix, now I need to test it locally 04:22 yaaaaaaaaay apparently the fix works 04:23 commit incoming 04:23 if the commit hits the earth it might wipe us all out like it did the dinosaurs 04:30 !tell K2 alright the bugfix is waiting at the slex master branch now! thank you so much for helping me figure out that bug, I was already having nightmares from that one but now there's a fix. praise the lord :D thanks again! 04:30 I'm on it, LarienTelrunya. 04:31 also eventually I want to add a failsafe to the makemon routine that allows it to detect invalid x,y coordinates for monster spawns to avoid such problems in the future 04:32 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Dra Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Mephisto, on T:36802 04:38 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: cccrow] 04:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3091 04:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 2259 points, T:3255, killed by a dwarf lady 04:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:59 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:01 urgh 05:01 it's really annoying that NH3 doesn't allow percentage for status hilites experience 05:01 means i have to define 300 status hilites instead of 10 05:05 percentage like, percentage of the way to the next level? 05:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 1386 points, T:1534, killed by a gnome lord 05:10 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Mon Hum Mal Law), 52306 points, T:23679, killed by a death ray 05:10 moon-child: yes 05:10 basically I wanted a way to see how close I am to level up in various variants 05:11 at a quick glance 05:12 -!- amateurh1ur has joined #hardfought 05:14 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:65994 05:15 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Kni Hum Mal Law), 182 points, T:557, killed by a small mimic 05:17 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Dra Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Malcanthet, on T:36899 05:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:26 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1552, rt[0:10:37] 05:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:66377 05:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:66379 05:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:66400 05:29 -!- kucimg has joined #hardfought 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a priest of Moloch), on T:66494 05:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 1243 points, T:2075, killed by a giant bat 05:41 <@Earth Traveler> boy nothing makes the sanctum more fun than a cursed scroll of create monster 05:42 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:42 Anytime a monster reads one I immediately think of the Spooky Camping music 05:42 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ns_WerNDg 05:43 cursed scroll of create monster > bugged symbio potion that crashes the game :P 05:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:66589 05:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:66602 05:48 <@Earth Traveler> OF COURSE THE MAGIC TRAP IN THE MIDDLE OF A GRAVEYARD SUMMONS TWO INCUBI THAT BOTH SEDUCE ME 05:48 LOL 05:49 well, duh... 05:49 the real question is did Rodney interrupt 05:49 <@Earth Traveler> no thank goodness 05:50 <@Earth Traveler> though the way you said that made me imagine, like... 05:50 <@Earth Traveler> Rodney peeks in "Hey, sorry, am I interrupting anything here?" 05:50 sex on a graveyard, gothic kink 05:52 lol I'd expect Rodney to yell "get a room you dirty adventurer!" 05:52 <@Earth Traveler> what was a gnome king doing done here...? 05:52 <@Earth Traveler> down* 05:52 step-rodney? 05:55 <@Earth Traveler> ugh i hate that clairvoyance stops you on Juiblex's swamp 05:57 Gnome Kings are ambassadors for the dwarf kings too scared to enter Gehennom 05:57 -!- amateurh1ur is now known as amateurhour 06:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:05 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Dra Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:37627 06:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:67974 06:15 this samurai started with 87 power 06:15 lol 06:15 -!- entuland has joined #hardfought 06:18 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown, on T:4304, rt[1:02:18] 06:18 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4341, rt[1:02:50] 06:24 <@Earth Traveler> how is that even possible? 06:30 ...the hell kinda... 06:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:35 -!- pete__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:35 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 06:37 -!- post163 has joined #hardfought 06:41 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Dra Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:38438 06:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 154075 points, T:21286, escaped 06:45 <@Earth Traveler> wow 06:46 <@Earth Traveler> i just died on the plane of water by displacing a peaceful water elemental... 06:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1274637 points, T:68330, drowned in deep water (with the Amulet) 06:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2587 06:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1651 points, T:3044, killed by a killer bee 06:50 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 607 points, T:1624, killed by an arrow 06:53 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 664 points, T:533, killed by a bugbear 06:53 -!- kucimg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55 gtg now; amateurhour: hoping that the bugfix can go live while I'm gone ;) sorry for the trouble! 06:56 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:59 will forgive u in time after I've looted the library 07:02 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Kni Hum Mal Law), 5407 points, T:8018, killed by a baluchitherium 07:02 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 07:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:09 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:12 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1050 points, T:2414, killed by a housecat 07:24 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3380 07:25 <@nabru> ! lastgame statuesurfer 07:25 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/StatueSurfer/nethack/dumplog/1625105847.nh.html 07:26 <@nabru> :( 07:26 <@Earth Traveler> 😦 07:26 D:!?!?! 07:26 Guess that's a new wrinkle to look out for 07:26 <@Earth Traveler> i mean i should've pressed F first anyway, but... 07:26 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "E", on T:3564 07:27 "don't displace peacefuls on the planes" 07:30 <@luxidream> !lastgame statuesurfer 07:30 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/StatueSurfer/nethack/dumplog/1625105847.nh.html 07:31 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 346 points, T:624, killed by a mountain dwarf 07:31 yeah peaceful displacement is a blessing and a curse 07:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2231 07:32 most of the time its useful but sometimes it just can lead to situations like that 07:32 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:4095 07:36 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 313 points, T:970, killed by a cave spider 07:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 934 points, T:2504, killed by a pony 07:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:5867 07:41 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 183 points, T:717, killed by a little dart 07:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 231 points, T:343, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:46 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Ang Fem Law), 206 points, T:313, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:48 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4866 07:57 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:58 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:8635 08:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6869 08:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 104 points, T:418, killed by a jackal 08:08 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful sewer rat, on T:5778 08:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 216 points, T:773, killed by a small dagger 08:13 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 08:15 -!- stenno is now known as Guest6235 08:15 -!- Guest6235 has quit [Killed (copper.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 08:15 -!- chao is now known as stenno 08:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 298 points, T:992, killed by a sewer rat 08:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Perhaps port that to hdf? 09:38 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-07-07 04:30 EDT: alright the bugfix is waiting at the slex master branch now! thank you so much for helping me figure out that bug, I was already having nightmares from that one but now there's a fix. praise the lord :D thanks again! 09:39 look in dat/dungeon.def 09:39 Do you have an etherpad or something for ideas? o: 09:40 <@Earth Traveler> so i just change nlevels to 4 and add the extra one? 09:40 yes. with the proper number 09:40 I'm curious as to what you're going for? 09:41 -? 09:41 <@Earth Traveler> i was just gonna add the sewers 09:41 No I mean for the variant 09:42 <@Earth Traveler> well... 09:42 <@Earth Traveler> i guess the biggest change i'm thinking of is changing Gehennom to the Abyss 09:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2008 09:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (liches), on T:43811 09:42 atlantis branch when 09:43 lemuria branch when 09:44 <@Earth Traveler> also removing the mysterious force, buffing Medusa, changing monster spellcasting slightly, making Wizard's Tower its own branch, adding Castle variants 09:44 Hm hm~ 09:44 I might borrow the Tower branch thingy 09:45 the only variant i know of that makes wizard tower its own branch is brevishack 09:45 and i barely know of it 09:46 <@Earth Traveler> also fixing one of my pet peeves, which is some of the wizard exclusive mechanics 09:46 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:11438 09:46 <@Earth Traveler> now everyone gets reduced hunger (but not hungerless) if their casting stat is high enough 09:47 <@Earth Traveler> also plan to buff everyone's unknown scroll/spellbook writing a little 09:47 Inchresting 09:47 go on 09:48 Slash'EM Extended updated (all servers) 09:48 thanks K2 09:49 hey ahour tell us how sweet the loot is 09:49 <@Earth Traveler> well i don't have all the details completely planned out yet, but wizards will retain a special bonus for writing unknown stuff, but we'll avoid absurdities like priests (who can advance 3 schools to skilled) having the same odds of writing unknown scrolls as cavemen (who probably shouldn't even be literate) 09:49 now that u can actually get to it 09:50 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:52 if it's like fourk there'll be like 15 scrolls 30 spellbooks and 2-3 markers 09:52 but it's slex so it'll just be a scam 09:52 will let you know after work 09:53 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 09:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:27174 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Cav Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13280 09:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:43900 09:57 -!- ssnufd has joined #hardfought 09:57 <@luxidream> bhaak it would be really cool to get a new branch in 3.7 09:57 <@luxidream> ;) ;) ;) 09:57 it would! 09:57 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:57 no! 09:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:58 no additional branches 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Cav Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:13451 09:58 please 09:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:27248 09:58 why? 09:58 because im mean and i hate fun 09:58 please remove rogue level and soko from vanilla 09:58 >:[ 09:58 yeah im with Demo on that 09:58 100% 09:58 <@Earth Traveler> what would you replace soko with Demo .-. 09:59 who says it needs a replacement/ 09:59 simply delete 09:59 @luxidream that's what variants are for :^) but what kind of branch would you like to see 09:59 <@Earth Traveler> wow you are a meanie 09:59 you could replace it with a level shaped like a dick and that would be better than soko 09:59 instructions unclear, adding Rogue branch and doubling Soko's length 09:59 lol 09:59 <@ichbinmiah> asmodeus summoned BOTH yeenoghu and demogorgon before dying 😛 09:59 i think a casino branch would be sick though 09:59 lol 09:59 the bastard! 09:59 <@luxidream> i think ADOM has a casino 10:00 Demo: the blackmarket is not casino enough? 10:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:44195 10:00 wheres the craps table 10:00 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 10:00 wheres the blackjack 10:00 <@luxidream> anyway sokoban was added in 3.3.0 10:00 <@luxidream> so fairly recent 10:00 who added it? 10:00 <@luxidream> i see no reason that 3.7 can't include more branches 10:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:44196 10:00 <@Earth Traveler> the blackjack is in the hand of the shopkeeper, as he prepares to beat you down for theft :^ 10:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:44197 10:01 <@ichbinmiah> now demo is happily filling the dungeon with nasties 10:01 wtf 10:01 lol 10:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law), 249587 points, T:44197, killed by a scroll of genocide 10:01 <@Earth Traveler> um 10:01 <@Earth Traveler> sax 10:01 <@ichbinmiah> demogorgon, not demo here LOL 10:01 <@Earth Traveler> bruh 10:01 I asked for "mind flayer" :D 10:01 <@Earth Traveler> it's blessed 10:01 You read a blessed scroll you fool 10:01 <@Earth Traveler> it uses the single monsters class 10:01 haha 10:01 that's the same calss 10:01 class* 10:01 @luxidream recent? were you even born yet when Sokoban was added? 10:01 <@Earth Traveler> 4head 10:01 jwalz 10:01 Classic Blunder, that 10:02 <@luxidream> Actually yes, I was a good one year old 10:02 I was about to beat Tariru winning streak too bad :( 10:02 <@Earth Traveler> lol 10:02 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/064baa14b48ace9e427826c8fc03102045e97ee8#diff-d178bdfb2b7f7cbe94d88e51fcc095af902c5480cb99b886ed4c1e8e4dd162c9 10:02 lets try again :p 10:04 yeah ok it predates being tracked properly i think 10:04 Demo: wrong repo. the official nethack git repository doesn't go back further than 2002 as the only then apparently started to use CVS 10:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:27363 10:04 wheres the old shit? 10:04 <@ichbinmiah> uh, I don't get credit for that 10:04 <@ichbinmiah> the black dragon's disintegration breath does 😄 10:04 Demo: every 3.4.x based variant that forked of https://github.com/Vanilla-NetHack/NetHack-3.4.3 10:04 <@ichbinmiah> thank you demogorgon for conjuring up a black dragon at range 10:05 <@luxidream> according to the wiki, it was part of 3.3.0 release in 1999 10:05 <@luxidream> so I was alive for that at least 10:05 going on 7 at that time 10:05 https://github.com/Vanilla-NetHack/NetHack-3.4.3/commit/c4bec85c0642343c20363e75cb8c0642336e2389#diff-d178bdfb2b7f7cbe94d88e51fcc095af902c5480cb99b886ed4c1e8e4dd162c9 10:05 aoei, Demo: It would be possible to fulfill both requests: replace the Rogue level with a Rogue branch. That A) gets rid of the Rogue level and also B) adds a new branch. See! Everyone can be happy at once! 10:05 <@Earth Traveler> lol 10:06 already made that quip 10:06 you are trying to get a rouse out of me jonadab but it won't work 10:06 rise 10:06 whatever 10:06 <@luxidream> is the rogue branch literally just rogue 10:06 a raise? 10:06 i wouldnt mind a raise 10:06 <@Earth Traveler> once you enter the rogue branch, the game actually switches to just rogue 10:06 Heh, I think you may be onto something, @luxidream 10:06 <@Earth Traveler> and you can't go back to NetHack 10:07 @luxidream that would complicate things. rogue also has the Amulet of Yendor. 10:07 alternate endings in nethack?? epic 10:07 <@luxidream> I'd imagine it works like this 10:07 swap it out with a fake plastic one 10:07 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/862333955851157504/Image.png 10:07 It works like this: you have to get the Amulet in Rogue, and escape the Rogue dungeon with it; this puts you back in NetHack holding a fake plastic amulet you didn't have before. 10:07 amateurhour: there are alternative endings. e.g. sacrifice the amulet of an unaligned altar 10:07 thats a really bad photo, i can hardly read the text 10:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Vam Fem Cha), 34607 points, T:5286, killed by a gnome king 10:08 <@Earth Traveler> "You offer the Amulet of Yendor to Crom... An invisible choir sings, and you are bathed in radiance... The voice of Crom thunders: "Mortal, thou hast beaten Rogue! But you still have to beat NetHack!"" 10:08 <@luxidream> https://52f4e29a8321344e30ae-0f55c9129972ac85d6b1f4e703468e6b.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/products/pictures/88249.jpg 10:08 <@luxidream> is this one better 10:09 <@Earth Traveler> i love that it was then theoretically possible to play seven more of those 10:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Ashpool's ghost, the former Curate, on T:27470 10:09 replace the rogue level with the nethack level where its just that 10:10 oh gross the orb of fate used to generate uncharged 10:10 <@Earth Traveler> replace the rogue level with a fake Astral Plane 10:11 If we want to expand the planes, we could draw on the Eastern element system and have things like a Plane of Metal or a Plane of Wood. 10:11 There's a NetHack-worthy pun to be had somewhere in the latter one. 10:11 <@Earth Traveler> no because Plane of metal would be filled with iron bars 10:11 <@Earth Traveler> and that would be horrible 10:11 or hybrid elemental planes 10:11 <@ichbinmiah> Level 33: <- You are here. x A grave. x Final resting place for x Frozty-Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu, poisoned by Demogorgon, while paralyzed by Yeenoghu, x Ashpool-Pri-Hum-Fem-Neu, poisoned by Demogorgon. 10:12 <@ichbinmiah> bones can generate in Gehennom? I don't think I knew that 10:12 <@Earth Traveler> ichbinmiah-Val-Daw-Fem-Law, poisoned by Demogorgon 10:12 earth-water: flooding caves 10:12 air-earth: sandstorm desert 10:12 fire-water: obsidian flats 10:12 <@ichbinmiah> nein, I survived 10:12 <@Earth Traveler> these all sound awful 10:12 <@Earth Traveler> yeah bones generate in gehennom 10:12 [hdf-eu] [spl] attie (Val Ang Nbn Law) entered Gehennom, on T:24977 10:12 <@Earth Traveler> it's just that a) people rarely die in Gehennom and b) when they do, it's usually on a no-bones level 10:12 Bones don't _generate_. 10:13 <@Earth Traveler> whatever 10:13 They are _left_. 10:13 And yeah, people don't usually die on Gehennom filler levels. 10:13 <@ichbinmiah> https://tenor.com/view/correct-futurama-the-best-kind-of-correct-yes-yep-gif-5787390 10:14 <@ichbinmiah> uh holy 10:14 <@Earth Traveler> i'm going to add a demogorgon lair, where it's just an open arena surrounded by lava with just demogorgon and no other monsters 10:15 Demogorgon's lair should be a swamp. 10:15 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/862335983114256435/Capture.PNG 10:15 The Swamp of Death. 10:15 anyone know where i can find old slashem source pre race/role split? 10:15 yeah luxidream second one is much clerear 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Cav Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Wayfarer, on T:14485 10:15 <@ichbinmiah> now THAT is a bones file 10:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1788 points, T:1264, killed by a gnome lord 10:16 but from which game is that card from 10:16 <@ichbinmiah> thank you Frozty and Ashpool, wherever you may be 10:16 is it a subgame of Magic within a game of Magic 10:16 or is it a subgame of Magic within a game of something else? 10:16 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:16 <@Earth Traveler> "wow the amulet of yendor already? I don't even need to go all the way to the Sanctum!" 😛 10:16 <@luxidream> magic, but then you play a subgame of magic by playing the card 10:17 lmao thats so stupid 10:17 <@luxidream> while you are playing the subgame, you can play the card again to enter a sub sub game 10:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 275 points, T:353, killed by a jackal 10:17 <@luxidream> etc 10:17 <@Earth Traveler> note that can happen up to 8 times 10:17 <@Earth Traveler> or could've, if it were legal 10:17 i dont like magic but i do like dominion 10:17 I bet that's banned in tournaments lol 10:17 and apparently they're both deck building games? 10:17 Oh right, Frozty ate shit to Demo 10:17 iunno about Ashpool though 10:18 <@luxidream> magic costs money 10:18 <@luxidream> so I don't play it 10:19 well dominion would also cost money if you wanted to play irl right 10:19 cuz you'd need to buy a set of cards 10:21 <@luxidream> i think magic online also costs money somehow 10:21 <@luxidream> like pokemon trading card game online 10:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Frozty's ghost, the former Magistra, on T:27553 10:23 <@ichbinmiah> sorry Frozty 10:24 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:24 <@ichbinmiah> meanwhile, the second grave on the floor has Mjollnir and the Mitre 10:24 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/862338379382915112/Capture.PNG 10:24 lmfao 10:25 ded priest 10:25 oh wow lynx used to have cold attacks 10:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hob Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:79181 10:26 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2809 points, T:3100, killed by a mumak 10:26 they did? 10:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1450 10:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hob Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed wand of death", on T:79183 10:27 yes, they were added in 3.3.0 and the cold attack was changed to physical in 3.3.1 10:27 wow easybabyhack 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Cav Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Roamer, on T:15710 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2025 10:32 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 10:33 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 10:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was given Hammerfeet, on T:3731 10:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 8049 points, T:3835, killed by a gnome 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 100 points, T:415, killed by a small mimic 10:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3323 10:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3363 10:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Cha), 403 points, T:805, killed by a burning book 10:40 My dnethack game froze again. Seems the major thing this instance has in common with the last time is that I put stuff in the magic chest. 10:41 hmm 10:41 (Branchporting out without doing anything with the chest worked fine, branchporting out after putting my spellbooks in did not.) 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 729 points, T:2381, killed by a mountain dwarf 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:2722 10:42 what does it do when it freezes? just hangs forever? 10:42 !who 10:42 amateurhour: [hdf-us] ssnufd [nh370] Karnac [nh370] Bartlem [nh370] dgoddard [gh] tori [dnh] KaiHerd [dnh] fakepass [dnh] RaoulDuke [xnh] ligang [spl] karibou [evil] VeryWiseFrog [evil] sluggoman [evil] krm26 [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players | [hdf-eu] tromix [nh370] ichbinmiah [nh370] Saxtheowl [nh370] Vis [dnh] 10:42 Yes. 10:43 I think it's possible to see for yourself, since I haven't disconnected. 10:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 136 points, T:492, killed by a jackal 10:43 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 896 points, T:1472, killed by a housecat, while fainted from lack of food 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:16864 10:44 which letter did you pick? 10:44 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 10:44 Vlad's tower, not sure which specific letter that was. 10:45 (The working branchport was to the sea.) 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2890 points, T:2972, killed by a priestess of Venus 10:46 the other time you froze was that also to Vlad's? 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 406 points, T:239, killed by a sewer rat 10:47 No, that was leaving sokoban via downstairs. 10:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 3273 points, T:4643, killed by a Woodland-elf 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1054 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 804 points, T:1072, killed by a jaguar 10:54 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1540 10:55 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10732 10:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2464 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 492 points, T:651, killed by a gnome 10:58 -!- chao is now known as stenno 11:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1181 points, T:1862, killed by a small crossbow bolt 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2052 points, T:2541, killed by a warg 11:00 <@nabru> !pom 11:00 @nabru: The moon is waning crescent; new moon in 2 days. 11:03 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 11:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3248 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1082 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1125 points, T:1090, killed by a gnome lord 11:06 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) had Gae Buidhe bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:11505 11:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1763 points, T:2280, killed by a cave spider, while fainted from lack of food 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 410 points, T:375, fell into a pit of iron spikes 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 11 points, T:86, killed by a water moccasin 11:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3024 11:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 858 points, T:1427, killed by a small dart 11:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29020 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed VeryWiseFrog's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1986 11:13 !variant 11:13 post163: grunthack 11:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1070 points, T:1524, killed by a death ray 11:16 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:3792 11:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 534 points, T:619, killed by a grid bug 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VeryWiseFrog (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2211 points, T:2698, killed by a soldier ant 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1338 points, T:673, killed by a watchman 11:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1953 points, T:843, killed by a dagger 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 533 points, T:442, killed by a gnome 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 78 points, T:228, killed by a large mimic 11:24 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 11:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1144 points, T:883, killed by a pony 11:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 359 points, T:391, killed by a dagger 11:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Vam Mal Cha), 182 points, T:355, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1149 points, T:417, killed by a dwarf 11:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 61 points, T:387, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible VeryWiseFrog's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3425 11:37 -!- Guest70 has joined #hardfought 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1020 11:39 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #hardfought 11:42 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:42 -!- d[-_-]b is now known as stenno 11:43 -!- Guest70 is now known as Jamiro 11:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:29538 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2820 points, T:1691, killed by an invisible Green-elf 11:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:799 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:666 11:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Bar Hum Fem Neu) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:1117 11:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:30016 11:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] RaoulDuke (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:3024 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) murdered Lucy, her faithful little dog, on T:4440 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5853 11:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] RaoulDuke (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3181 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6085 11:55 !tell K2 Sorry to bother you like this, but I broke my dnethack save again. Please help. 11:55 Will do, fakepass! 11:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2434 points, T:6603, killed by a hill orc 11:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:30446 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 290 points, T:1030, killed by a hobbit 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:633 11:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:11191 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:428 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:775 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 254 points, T:545, killed by a small mimic 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:783 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:20538 12:04 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 12:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:31089 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2631 points, T:2864, killed by a killer bee 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:848 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:21139 12:12 fakepass, game recovered 12:12 K2: Message from fakepass at 2021-07-07 11:55 EDT: Sorry to bother you like this, but I broke my dnethack save again. Please help. 12:12 Thanks again. 12:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] RaoulDuke (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3733 12:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 647 points, T:2171, killed by a werejackal, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 12:19 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a knife bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:15561 12:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31508 12:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31509 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3834 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4254 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5383 12:26 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) genocided disenchanters, on T:48777 12:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:31890 12:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Shelob, on T:18922 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:32368 12:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class g, on T:31939 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:2037 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2039 12:31 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2216 points, T:2357, killed by a system shock 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 895 points, T:1197, killed by a gnome lady 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 192 points, T:390, killed by a boiling potion 12:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32235 12:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32254 12:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:32517 12:44 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:32794 12:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:32800 12:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] RaoulDuke (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Raisse's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:4553 12:51 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 135 points, T:604, killed by a goblin 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 640 points, T:567, killed by a dwarf lord 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed sack containing 16 items on an altar, on T:7819 13:04 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) averted death (killed by an orc-captain), on T:7879 13:05 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a broadsword named Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:17320 13:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 1118 points, T:2150, killed by a rothe 13:08 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1061 points, T:1278, killed by a giant ant, while sleeping 13:13 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:23968 13:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 1165 points, T:1436, killed by a kitten 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh4] Jam (Jamiro) (Val Hum Fem Law), 15583 points, T:910, killed by a bat 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 198 points, T:304, killed by a wand 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:24093 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 318 points, T:614, killed by a small mimic 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] mung (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a darkwood staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:34361 13:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Kni Hum Mal Law), 213 points, T:643, killed by a boulder 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:21518 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:21580 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 566 points, T:633, killed by a giant bat 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Cav Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:18318 13:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 568 points, T:1194, killed by a gas spore's explosion 13:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1622 points, T:1701, killed by a rabid rat 13:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 77 points, T:90, killed by kicking a wall 13:44 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:21359 13:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 251 points, T:872, killed by a hobbit 13:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 92397 points, T:14129, killed by a human mummy 13:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2835 points, T:858, killed by a small dagger 13:50 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had a pair of walking shoes entrusted to her by Mog, on T:10004 13:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1127 points, T:1096, killed by a gnome lord 13:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 11211 points, T:4108, quit 13:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 110 points, T:432, killed by Mr. Annootok, the shopkeeper 13:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 125 points, T:339, killed by a grid bug 13:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Freya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 279 points, T:286, killed by a coyote 13:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 117 points, T:464, killed by an electric shock 13:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 585 points, T:1614, killed by a kitten 13:59 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:49696 13:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 358 points, T:560, killed by a small dart 14:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 62 points, T:231, killed by a small mimic 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 187 points, T:442, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 279 points, T:279, fell into a pit 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:22160 14:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 140 points, T:479, killed by a hobbit 14:04 [hdf-eu] [spl] attie (Val Ang Nbn Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:25124 14:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Lungorthin, on T:22238 14:11 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 14:12 -!- entuland_ has joined #hardfought 14:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1632 14:13 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:50140 14:14 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 91398 points, T:50146, poisoned by Demogorgon 14:15 -!- entuland has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:16 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2577 14:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 7349 points, T:2488, killed by a plains centaur 14:17 ouch, Demogorgon death 14:17 that's a rare one 14:18 !lastgame gokajern 14:18 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gokajern/fiqhack/dumplog/2021-07-07%2018%3A14%3A44%2C%20goka-Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 14:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was given Hellfire, on T:2147 14:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2340 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3448 14:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3776 points, T:2576, killed by an invisible gnome 14:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 257 points, T:543, killed by a gnome 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1921 points, T:3729, killed by a crocodile 14:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] RaoulDuke (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7979 14:34 raoul duke, where do i know this name from 14:35 oh its the attourney from fear and loathing righ] 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed antigulp's ghost, the former Sergeant, on T:22171 14:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2906 points, T:2035, killed by an ape 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 357 points, T:942, killed by a kobold zombie 14:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:23872 14:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 418 points, T:1608, killed by a giant spider of Mog, while praying 14:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 18 points, T:42, killed by a water moccasin 14:47 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 14:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 124 points, T:199, killed by Ms. Klodzko, the shopkeeper 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:24628 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24632 14:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:302 14:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2796 14:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 459 points, T:358, killed by a gnome lord, while helpless 14:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 251 points, T:310, killed by a mithril dwarvish spear 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 21 points, T:88, killed by a water moccasin 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2951 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 145 points, T:100, killed by a fox, while sleeping 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 34290 points, T:14170, killed by a shocking sphere's explosion 15:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3179 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 206563 points, T:29042, killed by Croesus 15:21 uh 15:22 fell from dlvl7 to dlvl13 15:22 get shafted 15:22 you _can_ fall to the castle level 15:23 its just rather unlikely 15:23 from dl 1 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6174 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6174 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:6204 15:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:29 can't you fall all the way to votd? 15:29 no, votd is the first level of gehennom 15:29 you can fall to the last level of the current branch 15:31 ah 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:25495 15:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ran Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4331 15:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1117 15:34 [hdf-au] [ndnh] asdf (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2809 15:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2554 points, T:1195, killed by a gnome 15:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9511 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 195420 points, T:25591, quit 15:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2628 15:44 you really ought to be able to fall from sokoban into the level with the sokoban stairs 15:45 wasn't there this hilarious bug in fiqhack 15:45 was it fiqhack? 15:45 which one? 15:45 aosdict: you can in fh 15:45 I paid for that feature with a couple of silly bugs 15:45 <@luxidream> you can get shafted past votd in FIQhack too 15:47 <@luxidream> I suppose it is now possible in fiqhack to find a hole on d:1 and go all the way to VS :p 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had a copper dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:24397 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:10476 15:47 probably, yeah 15:47 wat for real? 15:47 used to be possible to get shafted into the Sanctum 15:47 but I fixed that 15:48 someone in junethack ascended fiqhack without doing the invocation 15:48 FIQ: lol wow 15:48 <@luxidream> I suppose it’s also possible for a wizard to reroll wishing in their starting inventory 100 times 15:48 <@luxidream> And start with it 15:48 no 15:49 well 15:49 <@luxidream> I wonder if that seed exists (probably not) 15:49 you can get in explorer mode 15:49 <@luxidream> FIQ: the game only tries 100 times to give you a non wishing wand 15:49 there probably exists one 15:49 because a wand of wishing can generate on the Dlvl1 upstairs 15:49 seriously? 15:50 oh but it isn't applicable for wiz in fh anyway because they get striking 100% of the time 15:50 <@luxidream> So if you get a wand of wishing all 100 times, using dream luck 15:50 <@luxidream> Then you could start with one 15:50 if this is an actual thing, it might be theoretically possible 15:51 but wishing is probably too rare for there to exist a seed for it 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 65 points, T:297, killed by a jackal 15:51 NetHack4 seeds are 12 arbitrary bytes 15:51 just determine the state the rng would need to be in for that 15:52 and work backwards 15:52 to build a seed :) 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11193 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hob Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:79801 15:52 @luxidream although, does it only re-roll the wand? 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hob Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:79803 15:52 if there are several impossible inventory permutations and it re-rolls the entire inventory upon failure, it might be possible to generate something... easier 15:53 to rack up the re-rolls 15:53 Demo: i tried to do it with setseed but i didn't understand the rng lol 15:53 yeahhhhhhhhh 15:53 it sounds very nontrivial 15:53 it 15:53 @luxidream omg 15:53 <@luxidream> iirc only the wand 15:53 dream luck 15:53 came to the conclusion that spam-rolling will be easier and faster 15:53 's probably not possible in NH4 derivatives either way 15:53 luxidream 15:53 how did we not see it 15:53 :O 15:53 because there only exists 2^96 seeds 15:53 cheater confirmed 15:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Val Hum Fem Neu) was given Mjollnir, on T:6833 15:54 <@luxidream> let me just find 6 wands of wishing in a 2x3 wand shop 15:54 if it only retries 100 times, there is a 1/200^100 chance for wishing in starting inventory 15:54 which is a bit less than 1/2^96 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 111 points, T:285, killed by a jackal 15:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hob Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:79811 15:55 <@luxidream> !lastgame setseed 15:55 how big seed bytes in setseed? 15:55 @luxidream: No last game for setseed. 15:55 <@luxidream> !lastgame luxidream 15:55 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1625435554.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 15:55 Demo: the size of the RNG state past the initial seed matters too 15:56 like, how long is the period 15:56 i didnt know what the words for that were 15:57 but i was concerned about that as well but couldnt figure out how to say 15:57 i like how you use the word 'only' followed by 2^96 15:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Val Hum Fem Neu) was given Soulmirror, on T:8647 15:57 that is an insane number 15:57 i mean when you are describing trying to hit a (1/200)^100 chance, 2^96 is only 15:59 imagine there being an rng state in that space but its a 0:1 wand :( 15:59 lul 16:00 how does the setseed csprng even work anyway? 16:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4738 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:15495 16:01 time to build a quantum supercomputer or something to search those 2^96 states 16:01 i mean it possible maybe you can work backwards? 16:01 ur not gonna find anything in that space nabru lol 16:03 <@luxidream> The confusing thing for me is why nethack chooses to do it this way instead of having a subset of wands that Wizards can start with 16:03 wait a minute 16:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ran Hlf Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:8232 16:04 dammit it is mkobjing the oclass and not using a range 16:05 <@luxidream> Yes 16:05 which means mkobj probabilites are used which means 1/200 instead in 1/number of wands 16:05 <@luxidream> Why does it do that 16:05 wut 16:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5330 16:05 you cannot start with a wow 16:05 as a wizard 16:05 in vanilla 16:05 there is a hardcoded check 16:06 someone said that was limited to triggering 100 times 16:06 i have no idea if that is true 16:06 ooh 16:06 but this discussion is purely based on that being the situation 16:06 it may be entirely false 16:06 its 200-teleport all over again 16:06 very little source has been involved in this discussion 16:06 oh wait literally no source 16:07 <@riker> if (++trycnt > 1000) break; 16:07 <@riker> good luck with ur 1000 tries 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 898 points, T:2514, killed by a kitten 16:07 <@riker> (taken from 3.7 src/u_init.c) 16:07 <@luxidream> ok never mind 16:07 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:08 butthole surfer fan 16:08 :o 16:08 hairway to steven is a great album 16:08 <@Joanna> Hi riker how r the vibes 16:08 <@agnt7orng> yoyo did a recent update nerf god sent 1st artifact? Im on like 50th sac for magicbane havent been on in a while 16:09 @agnt7orng maybe it was generated in bones 16:09 <@riker> aoei im currently in the most boring college zoom meeting known to man 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:19804 16:09 <@riker> homie is trying to tell me what i need to graduate, which is very important, but homie is also runnign on like negative energy levels 16:09 did you get any sacrifice gift? if not i'd think it twas rng fuckery 16:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11013 16:10 <@agnt7orng> interesting stenno... wouldnt it drop something else by now? 16:10 <@agnt7orng> ya hoth 16:10 aha 16:10 <@agnt7orng> idk not yet 16:10 <@luxidream> unlikely things happen in nethack 16:10 ah then just bad rng 16:10 my vote 16:10 <@riker> 50 sacs is a 0.5% chance looks like, assuming 1/10 per sac to get a gift 16:10 <@Joanna> homie needs some positive outlook in life? 16:10 <@riker> aka "bad but totally within reasonable bounds considering how many people play nethack" 16:11 <@riker> homie need some crack aoei 16:11 <@riker> or just to wake up in the morning fully 16:11 <@Joanna> LOL 16:11 same chance of getting a wow on any soko level 16:11 <@riker> im not picky 16:11 s/of/as/ 16:11 <@Joanna> nobody needs crack riker thonk 16:11 <@agnt7orng> I might be at 40... but at least 40 im about to starve for crissakes 16:11 <@agnt7orng> need to eat these corpses 16:11 <@riker> "some stupids may..... who have an AP test in the language....." bro you look like you're 30 years old why are you pausing like a octogenarian trying to catch their breath 16:11 <@agnt7orng> reverse genoed silver dragons before i even got magicbane so i could eat one 16:11 <@riker> lmao, *students 16:11 wel if you're dead you'll never get magicbane 16:12 <@Joanna> Lmao riker 16:12 <@agnt7orng> only bc i have a pet balrog 16:12 hey agent orange if you want more consistent sac gifts with less rng play fiqhack 16:12 and maybe find out that you don't want it 16:12 <@riker> lol 16:12 <@agnt7orng> You shall not pa- eat my silver dragons cause demons dont eat 16:12 <@Joanna> Im chilling waiting for the bus home from the office 16:12 Demo: what is wrong with the way fh does it? 16:12 <@Joanna> Dw i wasn't there to work i just wanted to scan some docs for apartment applications 16:12 but yeah 16:12 you can get way more artis faster in vanilla 16:13 <@luxidream> Takes forever FIQ 16:13 I don't like the random artigift thing 16:13 @luxidream just sac gold 16:13 <@Joanna> Ended up taking photos with phone instead 16:13 or permafood 16:13 oh yeah I was going to make food give more, wasn't I 16:13 <@luxidream> That hardly gives any piety 16:13 fiqhack takes forever? fiqhack is a picnic. try grunt 16:13 I forgot about that 16:13 or evilhack 16:13 grunt is easier than evil is easier than spork 16:13 <@riker> isnt it like 10 pm for you aoei 16:13 <@luxidream> evil gives you good armor and stuff 16:13 use my gist wisely! x - a +5 pair of fumble boots 16:14 <@Joanna> Yea see above re wasn't working 16:14 gift 16:14 <@riker> still thats hella late wack 16:14 <@Joanna> Yea i guess. Been a long day 16:14 <@Joanna> Bed time soon 16:14 <@riker> nice 16:15 <@Joanna> Btw riker when u get a job you might still get to enjoy extremely boring meetings on the reg 16:15 <@Joanna> I sure do with my job 16:15 <@Joanna> C: 16:15 <@agnt7orng> all i had to do was come in here and complain... killed a pony... didnt eat it bc i still have one slime mold in reserve... dropped my blessed BOH put that fucking quadruped in there and lugged it over and got magicbane first try. 16:15 <@agnt7orng> took the alignment penalty on pony out of desperation 16:16 currently, FIQHack piety from permafood works like this: piety value = nutrition / ((probability / 15) + 1) 16:16 <@riker> "you may be wondering... if you can get credit for scores from ap tests" bro you JUST said this 5 minutes ago 16:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:6139 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3261 16:16 <@riker> aoei not looking forward to it! 16:16 C-rations, K-rations and huge chunks of meat count as probability 100 16:16 <@Joanna> Lul 16:17 <@luxidream> nope, ap tests are pointless 16:17 <@luxidream> Why did u take them 16:17 <@Shadow_Rider> riker i have been going through the same thing 16:17 <@luxidream> /s 16:17 there's no alignment penalty for an untamed pony 16:17 <@Joanna> Wtf is ap tests anyway 16:17 <@luxidream> College credit test 16:17 meaning huge chunks of meat give 260, K-rations give 52 and C-rations give 39 piety 16:17 <@Joanna> Do u get points 16:17 <@luxidream> For high school students 16:17 <@Joanna> For it 16:17 <@riker> i didn't luxi lol 16:17 <@Joanna> Or no 16:17 <@riker> i did however do IB exams 16:18 <@luxidream> dunno what that is tbh 16:18 <@Joanna> Where's this bud, god damn 16:18 <@Joanna> Bus* 16:18 <@riker> same thing but done as part of a full program 16:18 <@Joanna> Some bud wouldn't go amiss i guess 16:18 <@luxidream> cool 16:18 <@riker> aoei they're tests for specific 'advanced' courses in high school - the intention is that you take the standardized test after to prove you've covered that topic thoroughly or w/e 16:18 <@Shadow_Rider> why they offer so many options 16:18 <@agnt7orng> even if im neutral and its peaceful hoth 16:18 <@Joanna> oic riker 16:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ran Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:9957 16:18 <@riker> so i can like, test out of CS 101 and shit 16:18 <@Shadow_Rider> theres clep, ap, and ib 16:18 <@riker> im NOT doing "introduction to algorithms with python" 16:19 <@luxidream> hahah 16:19 <@riker> ive literally never seen somebody actually do clep shadow 16:19 <@Joanna> Ok skipping some 101 classes doesn't sound too bad 16:19 <@Joanna> My first year at uni was a cake walk 16:19 <@luxidream> I’ve heard of clep 16:19 <@riker> dalles the next one up is "advanced programming methods with java' but the advanced methods are just OOP and the concept of recursion and shit 16:19 <@Shadow_Rider> im considering it 16:19 <@Shadow_Rider> there are some boring classes that are required 16:20 <@Joanna> Well you say 'just OOP' 16:20 <@riker> i too have to take a freshman writing seminar 16:20 <@riker> aoei its literally 'what is a class' 16:20 <@Joanna> But turns out OOP is really complicated and there's lots of stuff I don't know about it 16:20 java and just oop is a tautology 16:21 <@luxidream> intro to java classes are dumb though 16:21 <@Joanna> Hahaha stenno truuuue 16:21 <@luxidream> This is a fact 16:21 <@agnt7orng> how many times can i pull on the leash before my balrog kills me 16:21 <@Shadow_Rider> the intro classes are too basic imo 16:21 <@Joanna> Well yea probably 16:21 5 times i think, agent orange 16:21 <@riker> absolutely luxi considering i had to take one this year in HS 16:21 <@Joanna> They teach to the lowest common denominator 16:21 <@riker> ^ into CS classes alwyas suck 16:21 <@agnt7orng> ty 16:21 <@Joanna> This is always a problem esp with any intro shit 16:21 ok I slightly changed the piety boosts from non-corpses 16:21 <@Shadow_Rider> this is why public school sux sometimes 16:22 at least i think the tameness of any monster is 5, apart from domestic pets 16:22 <@Joanna> Lmao what you think rich people are smarter? 16:22 <@Joanna> Noooo chance 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 987 points, T:2271, killed by a gnome lord 16:22 <@riker> ^ 16:22 <@Joanna> I haven't been to private school but I had a friend who did and it was the same exact problem 16:22 piety value is gold/2 for gold and nutrition for any permafood except food rations (+100), C/K-rations and huge chunks of meat (which get 1/3 of their nutrition value) 16:22 <@Shadow_Rider> oh lol that's not what i mean 16:22 I might have overtuned it a bit 16:22 idk 16:23 <@Shadow_Rider> i just think everyone should learn at their own pace 16:23 <@Joanna> Maybe not but its a problem with any school really 16:23 <@Joanna> Yea true 16:23 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah ig not public school specifically 16:23 <@Joanna> That's really hard to implement in a school setting tho 16:23 <@riker> yeah it's not really something easily fixable 16:24 <@Joanna> Like one on one tutoring is tailored to the individual 16:24 <@Joanna> But this is rare and costly 16:24 <@Shadow_Rider> i say public school bc i was homeschooled for 4 years at some point 16:24 <@Joanna> Anyway the best students are skilled Autodidakts 16:24 <@Shadow_Rider> which may be as close as you can get to that 16:24 <@Joanna> 😉 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3024 16:25 <@Joanna> Aha i see 16:25 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3541 points, T:4141, killed by a dwarvish werewolf 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3066 16:25 <@Joanna> Homeschooling can be really good in theory but is probably pretty shit in most situations 16:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hob Mal Law) killed the orcish high priest of Moloch, on T:80009 16:25 <@Joanna> Due to lack of good homeschool teachers 16:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Val Hum Fem Neu), 100853 points, T:13820, killed by a soldier ant 16:25 <@Joanna> Which probably is usually just parents 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3119 16:25 <@Shadow_Rider> heh lol luck of the draw 16:25 don't think that homeschooling is a good idea 16:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hob Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:80010 16:25 <@Joanna> And not necessarily skilled tutors 16:25 I don't like the idea of homeschooling, either 16:25 <@Joanna> Me neither stenno 16:25 <@agnt7orng> dammit got crowned 16:26 Too much chance for bigoted/ignorant parents 16:26 <@agnt7orng> guess it was all those clovers waiting for magicbane 16:26 <@Joanna> Yea nabru p much that 16:26 <@luxidream> These days autodidact = ability to use google 16:26 agent orange thats not too bad though 16:26 <@luxidream> xP 16:26 <@Joanna> That's like audodidact 101 dalles c'on 16:26 <@Joanna> Cmon* 16:26 <@Shadow_Rider> well for the most part my sib and i just ended up teaching ourselves a lot of stuff 16:26 <@Shadow_Rider> with guidance from parents 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1074 points, T:3161, killed by a bolt of fire 16:26 <@Joanna> Nice Shadow_Rider 16:27 !tell K2 fh updated 16:27 I'm on it, FIQ. 16:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:27 <@Joanna> Most people are shitty autodidacts 16:27 <@Joanna> And most parents are probably shitty teachers 16:28 <@Joanna> So homeschool isn't a good idea as general policy 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:26431 16:28 <@Shadow_Rider> most parents just don't have time either 16:29 <@agnt7orng> ya stenno I havent gotten any resistances yet might as well 16:29 <@agnt7orng> i guess if I am relying on prayer im not ready for a run anyway 16:29 <@Joanna> Yea tru 16:29 yeah 16:30 <@luxidream> Tru yea 16:30 hothraxxa: my junethack grunt win was not fun 16:30 which was sad because I remember enjoying it a lot 16:30 there were 2 reasons for this: 16:30 zombies revived over and over and over and over and over and over and over and ... 16:30 <@luxidream> what you mean you didn’t enjoy the worst gehennom in any variant 16:31 and the pain that was the grunt sacfest 16:31 @luxidream actually the Gehennom wasn't too bad 16:31 I mean yeah, gh wins some kind of reward for somehow making the very annoying vanilla gehennom *worse* 16:31 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a runed broadsword named Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:1198 16:31 <@agnt7orng> problem is im low on food 16:32 but when compared with everything else, it wasn't any worse than my vanilla Gehennom experience 16:32 which can be a drag but not actively painful 16:32 the fact that the mysterious force hit me like once, if at all, probably helped 16:33 <@luxidream> can’t you lock the zombies in boxes 16:33 <@luxidream> if you were bothered when you were farming 16:34 it wasn't them combined with the sacfesting, iirc I managed to just dump them into a hole somewhere 16:34 but they just Would. Not. Stay. Dead 16:34 which was really friggin annoying when I was trying to do something mundane like recover HP 16:34 I got sick of it and inadvertly got myself amnesia-d a few times because I was just plain annoyed by it all 16:35 I wonder if I ensured that I got a tinning kit in my past gh runs 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1573 16:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1716 points, T:1585, killed by a straw golem 16:35 or a means of polypiling the corpses 16:36 like, I spent like 5k turns on a level killing zombies 16:36 f that 16:36 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6779 16:36 yeah it isn't fun 16:37 fiq that shut 16:37 oh yeah I remember now wrt sacfest, I was doing it in the wiz goal level 16:37 to not have to deal with zombies 16:37 I had to deal with bats instead 16:37 it was annoying that they wasn't capable of standing still 16:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 539 points, T:791, killed by a giant rat 16:38 but that wasn't nearly as horrible as dealing with zombies 16:38 the level I wanted to use first was overrun with zombies 16:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 98 points, T:194, killed by a jackal 16:39 can you still antigold in gh? 16:39 probably? gh lacks several of the bugfix patches that nao and most other 3.4.3 variants incorporated 16:40 <@riker> aoei, update: guess who's still getting to take advanced programming methods with java, despite taking and passing easily my IB CS HL exam that's just a solid year of learning 'advanced programming methods' in java 16:40 <@riker> 😔 16:40 !lastgame karnac 16:40 ssnufd: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Karnac/nethack/dumplog/1625678492.nh.html 16:40 then again K2 might have ported those 16:40 when he started maintaining gh 16:42 how much more powerful is antigold in gh than vanilla? 16:42 i.e. how much more does no carry cap = More Power 16:43 not much tbh 16:43 in fact I'd say it's *less* useful 16:43 because dragonhide stuff is much lighter 16:44 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 16:44 gh fixed all 3.4.3 bugs iirc 16:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 5276 points, T:5815, killed by an ogre lady 16:44 dunno if antigold was ever a 3.4.3 bug though 16:45 maybe mixing it up with dyna actually 16:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3862 points, T:3882, killed by an invisible quinon 16:52 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4506 points, T:4440, killed by a winter wolf 16:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1847 points, T:2842, killed by a hill orc 16:56 -!- Sgeo_ has joined #hardfought 16:56 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 155 points, T:271, killed by a jackal 16:58 whoever made trolls reviving must have had experience with community management 16:59 hmm idk riker 16:59 is it elenmirie? 17:00 <@riker> :/ 17:00 oh wait no no i got it 17:01 it's stenno, isn't it? 17:03 yes, the fact that trolls revive was due to a commit i did in 1989 17:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:03 and with commit i mean sending a tarball via usenet 17:04 and with that i mean i didn't do it 17:04 lol 17:04 K2: Message from FIQ at 2021-07-07 16:27 EDT: fh updated 17:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Pri Elf Mal Cha) stole 1400 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kinojevis' general store, on T:2293 17:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was given Plague, on T:4519 17:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Saxtheowl (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9324 17:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was given Stormbringer, on T:6242 17:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:14 oh plague is an artifact 17:15 [17:15] <+Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] stenno (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was given The Clap, on T:69 17:15 bruh 17:16 might wanna get that looked at 17:16 K2 was given a stern look 17:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6909 17:16 hey i just pass on information 17:17 -!- Jamiro has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:19 is that because i had conquistador coffee 17:20 the tingling fresh coffee which brings you exciting new cholera, mange, dropsy, the clap, hard pad and athlete's head. From the House of Conquistador. 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:4945 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4949 17:25 :) 17:31 -!- entuland_ is now known as entuland 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5718 points, T:5950, killed by a soldier ant 17:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] tori (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 25893 points, T:9305, killed by a fire ant 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 20742 points, T:7236, killed by a bolt of fire 17:40 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 541 points, T:1424, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2429 17:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:25526 17:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1175 points, T:1744, killed by a blue jelly 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 811 points, T:2524, killed by a rabid rat, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 17:49 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:58 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:03 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 18:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 536 points, T:2333, killed by a wand 18:07 !ping 18:07 nabru: Pong! 18:08 K2: i cant load my slex save, it just says "Oops..." 18:08 oops 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] dacconcio (Val Dwa Fem Law), 356 points, T:1233, killed by Ms. Maganasipi; the shopkeeper 18:12 -!- sleepless has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16 NetSysFire: are you sure it's not working as designed? 18:17 its probably better this way, yeah 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3332 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] dacconcio (Val Dwa Fem Law), 602 points, T:1210, killed by a little dog 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3907 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4171 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Pri Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3437 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2481 points, T:5005, killed by a bolt of fire 18:51 which server NetSysFire 18:51 eu 18:53 2.7.1 20210707: panic CANNOT OPEN QUEST TEXT FILE quest.dat. 18:53 2.7.1 20210707: panic Cannot open dungeon description - "dungeon" from "nhshare" file! 18:53 2.7.1 20210707: panic Cannot open dungeon description - "dungeon" from "nhshare" file! 18:53 huh 18:53 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 18:53 -!- Sgeo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55 i wonder if amy broke saves with her last fix 18:55 i could start a new slex game no prob 18:57 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a runed broadsword named Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:23817 18:58 it was a promising game but for the sake of debugging i would test if another game would work 18:58 or omghax can test slex :p 18:58 i just did 18:58 Program initialization has failed. 18:58 Report this error to Amy (Bluescreenofdeath at Nethackwiki) so it can be fixed. 18:58 omghax had an older game of 2.7.1 on eu server 18:59 and it killed the save completely 18:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:4432 19:00 rip 19:00 https://github.com/k21971/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/2b37ffcf93b99cd0a319b12666597b49bad04ff0 19:00 that was her fix 19:00 it has "bad" in the commit hash so u know it's bad 19:01 i dont see how this breaks saves... ? 19:01 neither do I 19:01 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Val Esp Fem Law), 2781 points, T:956, quit 19:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2363 points, T:2866, killed by a bugbear 19:02 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a broadsword bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:23939 19:02 *facepalm* 19:03 oh, those cruel gods giving you stuff oyu can't use 19:03 *you 19:03 well i can 19:04 actually he gave me stormy a few turns back, and he already gave me dragonbane a long time ago now 19:04 and i pickaxed something around turn 11000 so i'll use stormy 19:05 !tell LarienTelrunya existing saves older than your last commit no longer load - 'Program initialization has failed. Report this error to Amy' etc etc. Brand new games seem to be ok 19:05 I'm on it, K2. 19:05 !tell LarienTelrunya see also https://eu.hardfought.org/xlogfiles/slex/paniclog dated 20210707 19:05 No worries, K2, I've got this! 19:06 wtf my slex game is fucked? 19:06 oh wait i probably? dont have one 19:06 idk sometimes i do 19:06 i guess it would be fine cause its probably on an older binary anyway 19:06 @le?mother lilith 19:06 Mother Lilith (&) | Lvl: 63 | Diff: 72 | Spd: 13 | Res: fire disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 77 | Generates: unique | AC: -7 | Attacks: 0d0 bite sex, 8d2 kick physical, 1d3 touch sleep, 9d1 weapon physical, 4d2 spit drain str | Alignment: 20 | Flags: swims, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 19:07 [hdf-us] [slex] Nabru (nabru) (Pri Esp Mal Law) killed Leutkak, on T:941 19:08 FIQhack updated (all servers) 19:09 !who 19:09 K2: [hdf-us] ssnufd [nh370] hothraxxa [gh] Jamiro [nh4] nabru [slex] hack84 [slshm] luxor [slshm] sluggoman [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players | [hdf-eu] joosa [nh370] 19:10 [hdf-us] [slex] Nabru (nabru) (Pri Esp Fem Law) killed the invisible Linus the Cat, on T:1468 19:11 [hdf-us] [slex] nabru (Pri Esp Fem Law), 5974 points, T:1618, killed by a monster (Spectral Sergeant) 19:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:5471 19:12 dNetHack updated (all servers) 19:12 rip nabru 19:13 i also found a bug in slex. i know its a bug because it benefits the player. unleashed water demons are peaceful if you play as a devil 19:13 aka demon 19:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 165 points, T:694, killed by a fox 19:14 also most demons that get spawned when you step on a gateway to hell trap 19:16 hm I have no idea what gnollhack is doing 19:16 but it has some really weird lag 19:17 and it gets slower over time 19:17 some memory leak? 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:26900 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26901 19:18 obvious valgrind but 19:18 could be interesting to profile gnollhack 19:18 hm 19:19 actually, the slowdowns seem to be tied to inventory changes 19:19 stuff like walking around, etc, has no delay at all 19:19 but it now takes 0.7s to update the inventry 19:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 199 points, T:546, killed by a bat 19:22 FIQ do you know if the gnollhack devs keep a dgl repo? 19:22 let me check 19:23 https://github.com/hyvanmielenpelit/dgamelaunch 19:23 ah found it same time you posted heh 19:23 thanks 19:24 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 19:24 at least here the commits have an actual useful title 19:25 told you they got better with commits 19:25 one of them did 19:25 if you're looking for the resize thing I mentioned, this looks like it judging by the commit msg: https://github.com/hyvanmielenpelit/dgamelaunch/commit/fe3d9c1c59b3e35986dff1e32549f1e7ec20b266 19:26 yup i'm reading it 19:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:6817 19:27 it's worth noting that dgl already has some sort of resize functionality built in, as can be seen if you fiddle with the term size in the watch menu 19:27 i'll ask Tangles to have a look at this when he's back online and has time 19:27 but changed sizes don't apply for started games in non-gnh dgl 19:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:6936 19:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a triangular amulet named cursed on an altar, on T:6937 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh4] Jam (Jamiro) (Val Hum Fem Law), 33053 points, T:3250, killed by a water demon 19:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2102 19:53 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4903 points, T:3202, killed by a hobgoblin 19:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joosa (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:8171 20:00 -!- post163 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:05 -!- tacco has quit [] 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 427 points, T:818, killed by a wererat 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 469 points, T:1046, killed by a gnome lord 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 92 points, T:142, killed by a sewer rat 20:15 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a silver dagger bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:26319 20:16 fiq, as a looter of your rcfiles, why do you play with runmode set to walk? 20:22 because I like visually seeing what is going on 20:22 it's fast enough anyway 20:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25 hm gnollhack giving me pity rng 20:25 bracers of reflection 1 step from the dlvl1 upstairs 20:25 +1 too 20:25 bracers go under gloves? 20:26 i found that out the hard way iirc 20:26 i thought it was a name for a type of glove 20:26 and got trice stoned 20:26 idk what bracers actually are, English isn't my main language 20:26 but you can have them together with gloves 20:27 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27 nethack plus adds some gloves called bracers https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/862490105368018985/unknown.png 20:32 -!- AntiVirus has joined #hardfought 20:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 5240 points, T:4149, poisoned by a rotted hobgoblin corpse 20:37 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:15532 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 93 points, T:319, killed by a kobold, while sleeping 20:41 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 20:42 Evil Patch Idea: Medusa has a steal-item attack that only works on equipped blindfolds and towels. 20:44 and "or/shield of reflection/sdsm? 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5703 20:46 moon-child: Oh, perhaps also reflection sources, yes. 20:47 im a silver dragon, steal my hull 21:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ran Hlf Mal Cha), 8817 points, T:3416, killed by a gnome lord zombie 21:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ran Hlf Mal Cha), 50 points, T:351, killed by a jackal zombie 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:28541 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 195 points, T:406, killed by a fox 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 146 points, T:769, killed by a goblin 21:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ran Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:1420 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:8608 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:8608 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:33792 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1130 21:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ran Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1933 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2807 21:46 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Sof Bul Mal Cha), 12654 points, T:2429, killed by a monster (bone ogre) 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh343] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 488 points, T:2164, killed by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:50 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 374 points, T:898, killed by a dwarf 21:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 2795 points, T:1911, killed by a soldier ant 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 636 points, T:1832, killed by a giant bat 21:52 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 21:52 -!- marblesurf has quit [Changing host] 21:52 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh4] Jam (Jamiro) (Val Hum Fem Law), 42068 points, T:5366, killed by a wolf 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] secra (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 89 points, T:506, killed by a fox 21:59 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu) became literate by naming Sting, on T:654 22:02 -!- marblesurf has quit [Quit: cya] 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 177 points, T:566, killed by a poisonous corpse 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6749 points, T:3929, killed by a hill giant 22:04 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (priests), on T:349 22:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:10 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 22:10 gah! K2, please double check the slex install on hdf-eu, I remember that we saw this problem before but can't remember the exact fix :/ 22:10 LarienTelrunya: Message from K2 at 2021-07-07 19:05 EDT: existing saves older than your last commit no longer load - 'Program initialization has failed. Report this error to Amy' etc etc. Brand new games seem to be ok 22:10 LarienTelrunya: Message from K2 at 2021-07-07 19:05 EDT: see also https://eu.hardfought.org/xlogfiles/slex/paniclog dated 20210707 22:10 will probably try to look for the fix if I find the time 22:10 don't have much though 22:11 there's nothing to check 22:11 i pulled your fix, compiled, games before the fix no longer run 22:11 new games after the fact run fine 22:12 its not just eu its all 3 servers 22:12 oh lol i love how 90% of this panic log seem to be coming from games i played 22:12 * NetSysFire genocides team a 22:12 it seems like that last commit broke saves 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 7564 points, T:10759, killed by a leocrotta 22:14 that is impossible, also I remember that particular error message. if I just had the time to google for it I could probably figure out how we fixed it last time 22:14 its not impossible 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:47722 22:14 its currently reality 22:15 hmm apropos demon lords, i remember how i killed juiblex on dlvl 6 or something with my xp 10 char once 22:16 man... and in the super early morning too. 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:660 22:17 stupid google, LOAD! don't have much time 22:18 https://www.hardfought.org/irclog/%23hardfought-2017-09-29.log 02:33 somehow include/config.h was overwritten 02:33 recompiling 22:18 back then we had the exact same error message 22:18 do you really need to interview travellers at 5 in the morning? i cant imagine theres many travelling at this time 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1628 22:19 i mean i know its not your decision but the one of the deutsche bahn 22:20 but it wasnt 22:21 i maintain my own repo for slex 22:21 when i pulled your commit, it was only one file... muse.c 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1940 points, T:1707, killed by a giant beetle 22:22 yeah, that cannot have broken everything, after all when I pulled it on esm I could still load old saves 22:22 if you start a new game on hdf-eu can you walk around and do stuff or does it break? 22:22 i already stated, new games appear to be fine 22:22 !whereis omghax 22:22 LarienTelrunya: omghax is not playing. 22:23 well I just tried to start a game on hdf-eu and it said "Oops..." 22:23 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 22:23 on hdf-us I can load my 2.71 save no prob 22:24 is there something in starting inventory that your 'fix' touches? 22:24 Unix SlashEMExtended Version 2.7.1 (75f3277a) - last build Wed Jul 7 09:40:58 2021. 22:24 the fix just means that certain potions no longer crash 22:25 please look into the hdf-eu build, I mean I don't know what's up but perhaps include/config.h was indeed overwritten or something? 22:25 i dunno what to tell you. i've now seen 3 older games from 2 different players not load, as well as a new game (you) also now not load 22:25 it wasnt 22:26 maybe have a look at your commit? 22:26 ...yes, the commit just adds functionality when monsters quaff certain potions, which doesn't happen upon loading a save or starting a new game but only when monsters actually get turns 22:27 starting a new game on hdf-au also errors out 22:27 all i know is this - games worked before your last commit, now they dont (mostly) 22:27 starting a new one on hdf-us works for me 22:28 its not server specific 22:28 this can be reproduced reliably, started four games on hdf-us, all worked, started three on hdf-eu and au, all of them instantly broke 22:30 K2: googled again, apparently back then a "make clean" did the trick, can you please try that on hdf-eu and au? 22:32 sure 22:33 also damn I only have about 12 minutes left before I need to leave 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 696 points, T:1573, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 22:33 stupid super-early shifts 22:36 so odd 22:36 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2115 22:36 make spotless did the trick 22:36 ah omghax is back! 22:37 i really hate slex 22:37 on multiple levles 22:37 :/ 22:38 but thanks ♥ now NetSysFire's game should hopefully load again 22:38 sorry but i'd be lying if i said otherwise 22:38 i'm recompiling slex on hdf-us also just to be safe 22:39 NetSysFire your slex game is recovered again 22:40 alright cool, sorry for all the trouble :( I'm striving to make the game as stable as possible but it doesn't always work as intended in practice, it seems 22:40 can confirm it works 22:41 alright so for further googling reference so I find it again: "make spotless" can help in case the game says "Program initialization has failed." 22:42 (this is so that if I later google for the error message, today's log will come up) 22:43 okay need to leave now. thanks for the help K2 ♥ and apparently amateurhour didn't play at all so his game probably isn't in need of recovery, and should work once he does come back to play again 22:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 22:45 o/ 22:47 -!- entuland has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:58 -!- bddba has joined #hardfought 22:58 -!- bddba has quit [Client Quit] 22:58 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Off Aqu Mal Law), 4274 points, T:1728, killed by a monster (little dog) 23:00 wait why was it even fucked? 23:01 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2359, rt[0:04:25] 23:02 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Ang Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1693 23:03 lingering build artifacts maybe 23:03 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3080, rt[0:06:12] 23:03 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1670 points, T:3133, [0:06:19], poisoned by a rabid rat 23:05 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Ang Nbn Law), 2000 points, T:1980, killed by a death ray 23:05 walked into the priest while blind and trying to hide in the temple :< 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2225 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:57788 23:13 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3382, rt[0:08:56] 23:14 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3690, rt[0:10:02] 23:15 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu) attained the rank of Page of Claws, on T:4905 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] slarty (Bar Hum Fem Cha) murdered Shadrack, her faithful dog, on T:3265 23:19 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5421, rt[0:15:35] 23:22 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:6076, rt[0:17:59] 23:23 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Aug Gel Mal Neu), 626 points, T:1172, killed by a monster (wax golem) 23:25 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Dra Elf Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6148 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Pebble (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Explorer, on T:58076 23:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ran Hlf Mal Cha) was given Fuma-itto no Ken, on T:5321 23:36 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:10006, rt[0:32:09] 23:44 [hdf-us] [sp] slarty (Hea Elf Mal Neu), 692 points, T:2876, killed by a little dog 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Seignieur, on T:58609 23:47 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:11831, rt[0:43:32] 23:47 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:11832, rt[0:43:35] 23:48 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:11921, rt[0:44:25] 23:48 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "cursed marker", on T:11939, rt[0:44:43] 23:50 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:12006, rt[0:45:53] 23:50 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:12108, rt[0:46:07] 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsimons (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1678 points, T:2851, poisoned by a killer bee 23:53 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:12956, rt[0:49:04] 23:53 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:12970, rt[0:49:09] 23:54 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:13156, rt[0:50:22] 23:54 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:13159, rt[0:50:24] 23:55 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:13324, rt[0:51:39] 23:56 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:13330, rt[0:51:59] 23:56 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:13333, rt[0:52:19]