00:00 that is correct 00:00 because i ran since i couldnt pay the 7 zorkmids 00:00 nothing in paniclog either 00:00 ugghh 00:00 why would slex crash? 00:00 man I guess I need to take a hydrochloric acid bath then 00:01 * NetSysFire drags LarienTelrunya into the acid pit 00:01 why would demo be a facetious dick? 00:02 u have a bad case of everywhere acid 00:03 * NetSysFire summons some more gelatinous cube and places some bullshit traps and laughes fiendishly 00:04 also LarienTelrunya why does the pokedex say that monsters who dont leave a corpse can be eaten by vegans in some cases 00:05 why wouldn't it? 00:05 doesnt make sense when it doesnt even leave a corpse 00:05 can liches be eaten by vegans? is dust vegan? 00:06 there are situations where corpses of such monsters may in fact be generated 00:08 but why? when they dont leave corpses at all 00:09 because slex 00:09 man don't annoy me more than necessary, there's a crash bug that I can't diagnose 00:09 how on earth am I supposed to fix that one? 00:09 (yes K2 I know, rm -rf slex) 00:10 can you eat the monster directly if you're a purple worm? 00:10 genocide team a 00:10 -!- bddba has joined #hardfought 00:10 no more bugs 00:10 misha: probably? unless the game is coded in a weird way, doing that shouldn't break the conduct if the monster doesn't have meat 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] slarty (Bar Orc Fem Cha) murdered golden-crowned flying fox, her faithful giant bat, on T:7006 00:11 -!- bddba has quit [Client Quit] 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9045 00:11 right, so that's why a no-corpse monster can be meaningfully vegan or non-vegan, even without any weird slex corner cases lol 00:12 mind flayer eating the brain too 00:12 (or the not-brain, they still try to eat it, i got slimed that way once) 00:14 LarienTelrunya: what should i do next time when i encounter that bug 00:14 except genociding team a 00:14 dunno, I've watched the ttyrec and it seemed to be completely random 00:15 you were walking along, possibly looking at some item on the floor and then bam crash 00:16 if it does happen again, I guess you could tell me whether there was a shop around again, then we could at least say that it probably has something to do with shops, although even that isn't certain 00:16 maybe it was solar flares 00:17 and cosmic radiation causing a bitflip in the hardfought server 00:17 looooool I thought about that too :P 00:17 K2: ecc ram when 00:18 new requirement of slex: ecc ram 00:18 that's actually my standard go-to explanation for undiagnosable crashes :P but nope, something must be bugged for real and I want to figure out the cause so I can fix it 00:18 we will see 00:18 right now i am tired and need to sleep 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] slarty (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1214 points, T:7181, killed by a blue jelly 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] zomgreg (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3403 00:25 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:9452 00:34 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 36781 points, T:6495, killed by a raven 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:10732 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:19091 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:19514 01:04 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:20275 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:20305 01:06 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 142 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:20673 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:20754 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:21560 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:21561 01:18 -!- Pebble has joined #hardfought 01:20 hello, did 3.7 introduce any polyself nerfs that haven't been documented on the wiki? 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:21803 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] secra (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1004 points, T:1582, killed by a werejackal 01:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed xororand's ghost, the former Adept, on T:16772 01:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:22538 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:22545 01:29 -!- Pebble has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:22592 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:22615 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:22663 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:22666 01:36 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 294880 points, T:44397, killed by Arms Dealer 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:23957 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of opposite alignment", on T:23960 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:23996 01:45 <@riker> my keyboard corrects true to TRUE 01:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:24310 01:45 <@riker> I feel like I've typed out too much code on my phone :/ 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:24334 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:24397 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:24413 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Strider (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 570652 points, T:24413, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Strider/nethack/dumplog/1625363903.nh.html 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] secra (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 712 points, T:2059, killed by a giant rat 02:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:18712 02:02 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:25 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Dra Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:11538 02:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1277 02:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2585 02:43 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5659 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:8490 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:9966 02:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11038 03:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:12484 03:04 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: cccrow] 03:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3177 03:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "marker", on T:14422 03:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 6193 points, T:3515, petrified by a moderately wounded chickatrice 03:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:14441 03:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "holy greased fixed bag of holding", on T:14443 03:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "master key of thievery", on T:16160 03:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:17135 03:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17136 03:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:17270 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:17407 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class e, on T:17409 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:17453 03:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:17971 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:18472 03:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:19291 03:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:19406 03:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:19411 03:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:19674 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:19677 03:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:19898 03:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:20005 03:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:20010 03:38 <@riker> gogo luxi 03:38 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 748 points, T:2283, killed by a gnome 03:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 gauntlets of power named fuck elves tbh", on T:20439 03:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:20560 03:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:20660 03:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 420 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:20942 03:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "3 cursed gain level", on T:21085 03:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:21809 03:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:21936 03:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:22180 03:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a healer called Jonathan the Physician), on T:22232 03:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "holy +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:22264 03:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:22310 03:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Law), 396816 points, T:22312, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dalles/nethack/dumplog/1625379932.nh.html 03:53 <@Shadow_Rider> 👍👍 03:54 <@luxidream> that was rough 03:54 luxi why are you playing under a different name and no seed?! thought you was practising speedruns 03:54 <@luxidream> seed is kinda borked rn 03:54 <@luxidream> aoei needs to fix it 03:54 oh the statue thing? 03:55 <@luxidream> aoei made the timer count up constantly which has led to several weird bugs 03:55 <@Shadow_Rider> Playing valks gets boring too 03:55 <@Shadow_Rider> I am getting tired of them 03:55 <@luxidream> well I got more valks to play :P 03:56 <@luxidream> just apparently on this alt I was trying wizard for some reason 03:56 <@luxidream> so forgot to change my rcfile 03:56 <@luxidream> rolled with it anyway 03:57 <@Shadow_Rider> Stream tomorrow? 03:57 <@luxidream> ya 03:57 <@Shadow_Rider> What were you planning to do 03:59 <@luxidream> probably valks 04:00 <@luxidream> gotta put in that work for ESA after all 04:00 <@Shadow_Rider> I bet you break wr a couple times practicing for esa 04:01 <@luxidream> I won't break it while streaming 04:02 <@luxidream> but 49 is definitely beatable 04:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 73 points, T:367, killed by a water moccasin 04:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:08 !rng play slex | play elona | play ahl | let the community decide 04:08 LarienTelrunya: play slex 04:12 <@riker> hey amy do you have any elona LPs? I know you've done some slex ones but I was thinking about trying elona the other day 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1490 points, T:2458, killed by a killer bee 04:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1395 04:18 riker: sadly I don't 04:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3196 04:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3569 04:20 <@riker> :/ 04:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3671 04:20 <@riker> ah well. somebody has to have smth 04:21 yay my pet walked into a level teleporter. thanks RNG 04:24 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:24 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 04:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6037 04:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7996 04:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8754 04:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:11681 04:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 305 points, T:1773, killed by a homunculus, while fainted from lack of food 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 holy charging", on T:12131 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:12295 04:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 141 points, T:455, killed by a gnome 04:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:13217 04:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:13219 04:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:14274 04:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:15206 04:53 happy day of hubris and cynicism 04:53 stenno: is that an actual thing? 04:54 yes 04:54 i think in the USA its called 'independence day' 04:54 oh 04:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:16728 04:54 like hell day, where they "celebrate" the killing of the native population? 04:54 yes, they call it 'thanksgiving' i think 04:55 cynical little bastards they are 04:55 that's sick 04:56 yeah if your main propaganda statement is 'my country is the best of the world and we are all living in freedom here', you have to twist history and the status quo a bit 04:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:17280 04:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:17336 04:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:17338 04:58 so genocide of native people becomes 'we celebrate becoming friends with them' and not 'we celebrate the beginning of a genocide' 04:58 to keep the illusion up 04:58 yeah that's insane, but they seem to be big fans of that tradition 04:59 when reading books (novels) that are originally american and were translated to german, the characters are always described celebrating "thanksgiving", as if that was a celebrate-worthy event or something 05:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:18365 05:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy ring of teleport control", on T:18368 05:01 imagine being the victim of institutionalized racism but being told that your country actually gives you all the freedoms 05:01 how cynical can one even be 05:01 that's probably just how things run in Trumpistan 05:02 thats how things work since the beginning 05:02 that is what is celebrated today 05:02 day of freedom 05:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:18838 05:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:18839 05:03 dangit, I hate it if I don't have a real means of getting into grund's 05:03 !rng try to force your way in | get outta there you fool! 05:03 LarienTelrunya: get outta there you fool! 05:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:20868 05:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:20870 05:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:20936 05:09 oh yay, level 13, and I still don't have a pick-axe somehow 05:10 pickaxes should have rnz(5000) before you can dig another square with them 05:10 yo amateurhour, there's a new slex commit that you might want to check out ♥ 05:10 is it going to give me a frowny face 05:11 also I continued the annotated 3.6 patch notes document, and it triggered pastebin's swear filter for some reason :P that must clearly be a false positive, unless "fuck that shit" is somehow considered swearing now. anyway it might be for the better if I don't upload it after all ;) 05:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:21885 05:11 just migrate it to your user page on the wiki or something 05:11 naaaaah I don't want to get banned from the wiki 05:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:22096 05:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:22100 05:12 hey Amy when did monks deal 50-60 damage per round lol 05:13 when they're wearing +5 kicking boots that are also high heels and all the skills are maxxed :P 05:13 so kicking 05:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:22209 05:13 you'd already nerfed kicking, lol 05:13 need pick-axe :/ 05:14 everyone uses pickaxes but you haven't nerfed them yet, seems a bit OP 05:14 oh right, that ass wood elf again, well this time I'm gonna kill him for good 05:14 infinite use digging tool, no cooldown 05:14 ass-wood elf 05:15 oh he had a wand of speed monster, no wonder he was so fast 05:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1616 05:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:23246 05:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:23455 05:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 40 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:23605 05:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed gain level", on T:23933 05:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 377 points, T:1988, killed by a hobbit 05:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:25284 05:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:25647 05:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:25790 05:27 really wondering why I keep bothering with pets because they just die with no chance 05:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:25856 05:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1187042 points, T:25874, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dalles/nethack/dumplog/1625386432.nh.html 05:30 yay mattock get 05:31 poison resistance get :D amateurhour: when will you finally say "hax"? 05:35 [hdf-eu] [slex] thtee9 (Art Alc Mal Cha), 572 points, T:554, killed by a monster (slave master called sohlman) 05:35 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 05:50 man if I wasn't playing a neutral char I'd probably be dead now 05:53 gtg, annoyingly enough... curse those split shifts! :P 05:54 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:00 hax 06:03 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:05 -!- tacco has joined #hardfought 06:08 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 06:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:41 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a violet fungus, on T:9359, rt[2:11:17] 06:45 -!- entuland has joined #hardfought 06:45 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Mon Hum Mal Law), 9803 points, T:9710, petrified by a cockatrice 06:51 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:51 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 06:56 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:57 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 07:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Dewzmint (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2160 points, T:2609, killed by a fire ant 07:08 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 07:09 -!- cccrow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:09 -!- cccrow has joined #hardfought 07:21 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1592, rt[0:12:23] 07:23 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:28 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:45 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:20446 08:07 <@Joanna> Uhh K2 you might wanna revert my last setseed commit. There was a report that it breaks menu navigation with arrow keys (i didn't think to test this because I always use <>) 08:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 1203 points, T:2317, burned by molten lava 08:17 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 08:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Dresser, on T:21550 08:31 -!- cccrow has quit [Quit: cccrow] 08:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 368 points, T:1189, killed by a little dog, while sleeping 08:41 <@Joanna> also jilles let me know if you notice anything odd with the interface, and do you play with the status line clock enabled? 08:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:4182, rt[0:34:29] 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 940 points, T:848, killed by a dwarf 08:46 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 08:50 -!- AoiE is now known as aoei 08:51 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:1594 08:52 Hi tommo 08:53 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) had Avalon bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1650 08:54 @Joanna I notice that text occasionally appears in the wrong place 08:54 that sounds like a race condition 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 946 points, T:1438, killed by the Misha's ghost of Misha 08:54 it happens often or always when backspacing in a #name prompt 08:55 sometimes with status lines appearing in the middle of the map 08:55 sometimes with inventory selection lists + or - appearing somewhere else than they should 08:57 heck 08:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed secra's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1455 09:01 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6530, rt[0:53:45] 09:04 -!- Minoru has joined #hardfought 09:04 FIQ: hey, I ran into a bug in Nethack4, and eady suggested I report it to you as well, so here goes: https://gist.github.com/Minoru/604821a5cc8e0d13f3160b1819f9fd25 09:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Hob Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:45962 09:07 I don't think the nh4 bugzilla is followed really 09:07 sorry about that 09:07 for fiqhack and I assume 4k, you have more luck reporting issues on the github, 09:07 with 'vanilla' nh4, idk 09:07 anyway I'll check out the link 09:08 Minoru: this is in a temple? 09:08 I emailed a copy to ais523 too 09:08 FIQ: all three instances hit in the temples, yes 09:08 known bug then 09:08 ah, cool 09:09 for whatever reason, temple priests in NetHack4 doesn't seem overly concerned about whether you're standing where they want to move or not 09:09 and they have a chance of walking into you 09:09 if they do, you get that dialog 09:09 divine phasing :P 09:09 oh. How unclassy of them 09:09 not sure if I fixed that in fiqhack or not 09:09 if I did, I could just mention the commit to jonadab 09:10 yeah I did 09:10 !tell jonadab fiqhack commit ec123a29700ea5d31079fe04ad47a09b0e87dbed might interest you for 4k and nh4 09:10 jonadab shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 09:11 well, all I can hope for now is that it gets picked up and integrated. NH4 is pretty nice, although Fourk is nice too. I didn't play much of FIQHack, dunno why 09:11 and thanks! 09:12 fiqhack is part nh4 with even more qol 09:13 but also has its own changes, which makes some people who like nh4 reluctant to play it 09:13 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/FIQHack 09:15 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7701, rt[1:07:20] 09:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:17 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:19 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3381 09:21 fiq: remind me again what you did about the level draining that happemns when you use a wand of death at expert on something right next to you 09:22 got burned by that again in my fourk game but at least i was prepared for it 09:23 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Kni Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3512 09:23 hothraxxa: I made it so that you're no longer affected by your own explosions 09:24 I'm also considering ḿaking Skilled rays no longer explode 09:24 destroying the wand balance patch 09:24 balancing the wand destruction patch 09:24 Demo2: Expert and Master ones would still explode 09:25 something something something making fun of amy for hating it so much 09:25 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9509, rt[1:17:28] 09:25 the change would merely just make Reflection work against skilled wand use again 09:25 meaning it's no longer completely impotent past earlygame 09:25 i like the idea of skilled not exploding becasue soldiers use wands at skilled 09:25 at least they used to 09:25 hothraxxa: 10% of wands are blessed 09:25 so it would still be possible to happen 09:25 but much more rarely 09:25 that too 09:25 and I don't mind it happening *sometimes* 09:26 sure 09:26 but I don't want to make reflection completely worthless 09:26 which I might inadvertly have done 09:26 -!- Minoru has left #hardfought 09:27 hothraxxa: I'm also considering making dragonbreath no longer explode 33% of the time (and 11% of the time making 2-6 explosions) 09:28 but instead making it simply just ignore reflection not conferred from Dragonbane 09:29 the idea being that rays are, well, rays, and thus reflectable, while dragonbreath are more like blasts (flamethrower-ish for a red dragon for example) 09:29 That's logical 09:32 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:33 i still won't like fiqhack dragons 09:33 fast and they try to avoid melee 09:36 oh does dragon breath sometimes explode in fourk as well? 09:37 amateurhour: no 09:37 hothraxxa: they're meant to be smart and scary :) 09:38 ah is it a spicy fiqhack original? does it do it for disintegration as well? 09:38 amateurhour: nah disint works like vanilla 09:38 fiq: i know. i'm not objecting, i'm just saying i dislike them 09:38 <@luxidream> the Medusa shield of reflection in FIQhack does almost nothing 09:38 except that black dragons have no qualms about breathing in melee 09:38 just like other dragons 09:38 evilhack dragons are worse 09:39 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 09:39 <@luxidream> it protects you from exactly nothing at castle 09:40 amateurhour: fiqhack dragons was basically me thinking "ok what can I do to make dragon AI abuse the game mechanics to its full potential with their current abilities" 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] Jam (Jamiro) (Val Hum Fem Law), 32206 points, T:2933, killed by a gray unicorn 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:61379 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:61380 09:40 I also made them faster and harder-hitting 09:40 ahh 09:40 <@luxidream> and you wear it later to reflect disintegration maybe 09:40 I don't think a game where all game monsters abuse game mechanics to its full potential would be all that enjoyable 09:40 I'm not trying to make smoart kobold 09:40 but one or two monsters doing it? that's kinda cool to me 09:41 @luxidream see that's why I'm considering nerfing skilled wand rays 09:41 I don't want reflection to be what it is in vanilla 09:41 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:26932 09:41 where it shields against basically everything with a ranged non-weapon attack 09:41 I wanna make smart kobold 09:41 Not like, Tucker level though 09:41 but I don't want ot make it completely impotent 09:42 (unless I'm doing a special level thing anyway) 09:42 in dnh reflection doesn't protect against dragon breath unless it's from silver scaled armour (like sdsm) 09:43 What's Dragonbane in dnh again? 09:43 it's still pretty useful though 09:43 Because that reflection should work as well tbh 09:43 (if it doesn't already) 09:43 idk, it probably does 09:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:11437, rt[1:36:32] 09:44 <@luxidream> monsters have some advantages over the player actually 09:44 <@luxidream> they have monster MR 09:44 <@luxidream> They can move and attack in the same turn 09:44 are you talking about vanilla or fh now? 09:44 they can go where you can't 09:45 because they can't move+attack in fh 09:45 that's blatant cheating 09:45 eg through chokepoints 09:45 they still have monMR because I haven't yet figured out the best way to deal with that yet 09:45 wait, monsters can move and attack with a single action? 09:45 <@luxidream> I think that is dependent on size hothraxxa 09:45 hothraxxa: actually they can't 09:45 if they're too large 09:45 <@luxidream> tiger can’t get through choke points 09:45 <@luxidream> But cat can 09:45 lots of monsters can 09:46 yeah I remember dealing with a giant beetle in some variant 09:46 I forgot which one 09:46 it couldn't go through a chokepoint 09:46 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 09:46 the move+attack thing is my biggest issue with the vanilla AI 09:47 because it makes strategies that *ought* to work just not work 09:47 such as staying out of line to avoid death rays 09:47 you have to stay 2 tiles out of lines 09:47 due to the stupid move+attack thing 09:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful green slime, on T:61643 09:47 in fact I wonder if that's a bug 09:47 bhaak: do you know? 09:48 I could always push a PR that fixes it if it's considered a bug :P 09:48 making strategies that ought to work not work is the variant developer's motto, i thought 09:48 <@luxidream> monster carry cap is also way better than player carry cap 09:48 is that applying only to real monsters 09:48 fuck yeah. nymphs can carry half the dungeon 09:48 hothraxxa: I was referring to strategies that fail for unintuitive reasons though 09:48 polymorph carry cap sucks 09:48 with the exception of poly to nymph, mind 09:48 <@luxidream> really I have no idea why player carry cap is destroyed through polymorph 09:48 in fiqhack, if you polymorph into a nymph, you have an infinite carrycap 09:49 nice FIQ 09:49 <@luxidream> would the game really be unbalanced if you kept your carry cap in queen bee form 09:49 that would be epic for tc run 09:49 tengu also 09:49 cuz you get teleport control but you can't carry shit 09:49 but if that was changed... 09:50