00:04 [hdf-us] [sp] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:5380 00:04 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha) entered the Blackmarket, on T:8019, rt[0:40:42] 00:05 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 00:06 [hdf-eu] [4k] FIQ (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:10886 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] mwrynn (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 218 points, T:262, killed by a water moccasin 00:07 [hdf-us] [sp] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law), 18041 points, T:5543, killed by a dingo, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] Lawliet (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:37112 00:12 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire bat, on T:8671, rt[0:47:59] 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] mwrynn (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 31 points, T:138, killed by a water moccasin 00:15 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha), 30418 points, T:9749, killed by the Oracle 00:15 <@luxidream> FIQ: pressing travel then O pulls up a description and list of items that you can choose to travel to 00:15 <@luxidream> great for shopping 00:17 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in six variants" unlocked by halilindbloom! 00:21 @luxidream ah, nice 00:23 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Vam Fem Cha), 1234 points, T:832, quit 00:26 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in three variants" unlocked by FIQ! 00:26 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in two variants" unlocked by FIQ! 00:26 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in one variant" unlocked by FIQ! 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] cathartes (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:14984 00:26 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in one variant" unlocked by FIQ! 00:26 Junethack: New user FIQ registered! https://junethack.net/user/FIQ 00:26 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in one variant" unlocked by Spider74656! 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Cav Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:19952 00:30 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1468, rt[0:01:30] 00:30 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1034 points, T:1680, quit 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:19975 00:32 that was ez n i wasnt scared 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19975 00:33 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1317, rt[0:40:49] 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] cathartes (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:15152 00:38 [hdf-au] [nh370] Lawliet (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:38460 00:41 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2003 points, T:3347, killed by a brown mold 00:42 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Mal Cha), 1113 points, T:3250, killed by a giant ant 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] FalseLobster (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Ixoth, on T:23435 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] FalseLobster (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23436 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Pri Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:13249 00:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] cathartes (Val Dwa Fem Law) stole 1 zorkmid worth of merchandise from Inniscrone's second-hand bookstore, on T:16162 00:51 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3867, rt[0:09:31] 00:53 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 906 points, T:3951, killed by a pony 00:54 [hdf-au] [nh370] Lawliet (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:38906 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] cathartes (Val Dwa Fem Law) stole 1 zorkmid worth of merchandise from Inniscrone's second-hand bookstore, on T:16290 00:55 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3569, rt[0:12:00] 00:55 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3709, rt[0:12:22] 00:56 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1024, rt[0:02:48] 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Cav Gno Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:20537 00:58 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 691 points, T:1361, killed by an orc zombie 00:58 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Mal Cha), 3430 points, T:4626, killed by a snake, while fainted from lack of food 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] cathartes (Val Dwa Fem Law) stole 1 zorkmid worth of merchandise from Inniscrone's second-hand bookstore, on T:16406 00:59 [hdf-us] [fh] Larse (sadburger) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6358 points, T:12, escaped 00:59 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 189 points, T:472, killed by an incubus, while fainted from lack of food 01:00 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 213 points, T:363, killed by a kobold zombie, while fainted from lack of food 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3150 points, T:2819, poisoned by an orcish arrow 01:01 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 230 points, T:653, killed by a bolt of lightning 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:20850 01:02 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1137, rt[0:04:29] 01:03 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1129, rt[0:01:52] 01:05 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1562, rt[0:02:57] 01:05 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1909, rt[0:03:32] 01:06 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1267 points, T:1985, quit 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] cathartes (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:17177 01:10 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1864 points, T:2937, killed by a pony, while frozen by a trap 01:11 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:14 [hdf-eu] [4k] FIQ (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:17515 01:14 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] mwrynn (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1498 points, T:4409, killed by a hill orc 01:16 [hdf-eu] [4k] FIQ (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) received advice from The Oracle, on T:17766 01:17 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4389, rt[0:07:22] 01:17 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1115 points, T:4390, killed by a killer bee 01:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Lawliet (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:39591 01:28 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2932, rt[0:10:04] 01:30 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1876 points, T:3309, killed by a gray unicorn 01:33 [hdf-eu] [4k] FIQ (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed Master Key of Thievery", on T:18385 01:34 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 01:36 [hdf-us] [fh] Larges (sadburger) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 32687 points, T:2419, killed by a killer bee, while frozen by a spellbook 01:40 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1691 points, T:2363, quit 01:43 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1356, rt[0:03:09] 01:45 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:1641, rt[0:04:46] 01:46 @4k?gryphon 01:46 gryphon ~3~ Archon (A) | Lvl: 19 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 16 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: dungeons | AC: -6 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 2d6 gaze blind, 1d8 claw physical, 4d6 cast spell | Alignment: 15 | Flags: flies, regenerates, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 01:46 not that 01:47 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1304 points, T:2167, killed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food 01:47 <@luxidream> !lastgame 01:47 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xororand/nethack/dumplog/1623533012.nh.html | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/unnethack/dumplog/1623562846.un.txt.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/slashem/dumplog/1623479570.slashem.txt 01:48 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 76 points, T:356, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] cathartes (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:18275 01:50 aww, 4k fixed remote fireball/coc 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] cathartes (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18278 01:51 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 271 points, T:965, killed by a black pudding 01:51 [hdf-eu] [4k] FIQ (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) defeated the invisible Dark One, on T:19385 01:56 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1715, rt[0:04:17] 01:57 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2047, rt[0:05:18] 01:59 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2478, rt[0:07:25] 01:59 what is this medusa map 02:00 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 1426 points, T:2563, quit 02:04 [hdf-eu] [4k] FIQ (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) defeated Medusa, on T:19872 02:06 jonadab: there's something wrong with 4k magic mapping 02:07 I cannot navigate properly after casting it 02:08 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:2235, rt[0:07:45] 02:12 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3314, rt[0:11:53] 02:15 [hdf-eu] [fh] Elenmirie (elenmirie) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) defeated the Dark One, on T:33693 02:16 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 6090 points, T:4119, killed by a wand 02:16 <@luxidream> !lastgame . 02:16 @luxidream: No last game for .. 02:16 <@luxidream> !lastgame 02:16 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xororand/nethack/dumplog/1623533012.nh.html | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/unnethack/dumplog/1623564019.un.txt.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/slashem/dumplog/1623479570.slashem.txt 02:17 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 192 points, T:779, killed by a wand 02:18 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:691, rt[0:00:59] 02:19 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:26321 02:20 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1495, rt[0:03:05] 02:24 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:3202, rt[0:06:36] 02:31 -!- fadein has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:32 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 5501 points, T:5094, killed by a yeti 02:37 [hdf-eu] [fh] Elenmirie (elenmirie) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:34982 02:38 [hdf-eu] [fh] Elenmirie (elenmirie) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class 'h', on T:34986 02:39 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:2139, rt[0:06:33] 02:39 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2231, rt[0:07:14] 02:42 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:26697 02:44 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3729, rt[0:12:01] 02:47 <@Joanna> Good morning 02:47 <@Joanna> Guess who just turned 30 ;o 02:49 * NetSysFire gives some eggs, a few food rations and a bag of milky potions to Joanna 02:49 <@Joanna> Yay 02:50 <@Joanna> Why those items. To make cake? X'D 02:50 <@Joanna> Are food rations actually just flour 🤔 02:51 Happy birthday. 02:51 NetSysFire: You forgot the candles. 02:52 <@Joanna> Hah 02:52 dammit i knew i forgot something 02:52 <@Joanna> We need a fire trap too 02:52 <@Joanna> To light them 02:52 * NetSysFire hands a wand of fire to Umbire 02:52 <@Joanna> Pog 02:52 <@Joanna> I'm travelling to Niedersachsen today 02:53 <@Joanna> Waiting for my ICE to Hannover now 02:53 Kindly step out of a way, I don't want to repeat that steakhouse incident. 02:53 <@Joanna> At teh Hbf 02:53 out of the* 02:53 <@Joanna> It's OK I had fire giant for breakfast 02:53 <@Joanna> They sell it on the platform 02:53 <@Joanna> Very filling 02:54 Still, scrolls of enchant armor for fireproofing are expensive 02:54 The fire giant corpse satiated your stomach! 02:54 <@Joanna> O ya 02:54 <@Joanna> My coat might not be fire proof 02:55 <@Joanna> steps away from the cake 02:55 *cloak 02:55 <@Joanna> That's what I said, coat 02:55 i really hope the fire giant corpse doesnt make you choke on the cake 02:55 <@Joanna> Separate dessert stomach 02:55 <@Joanna> Should b fine 02:56 ...questions for later. 02:56 For now. 02:56 * Umbire zaps a wand of fire at the cake 02:56 <@Joanna> Did u put 30 candles on it tho 02:57 <@Joanna> Hard to find that many in a standard dungeon 02:57 Izchak and the gnomes make it p. easy in retrospect 02:57 And there's always Vlad in a pinch 02:57 He's still sore about the steakhouse thing though :c 02:57 <@Joanna> Vlad has on average 12 or something 02:58 <@Joanna> Maybe not even that 02:58 <@Joanna> Izchak similar number 02:58 <@Joanna> Maybe the gnomes do make up the remaining ten 02:58 <@Joanna> I wouldn't try this for hothraxxa's birthday tho 02:59 <@Joanna> Might be doable with bones stuff 02:59 Or wax golems 02:59 <@Joanna> Yea i guess an extinctionist game could handle a lot of birthdays 03:07 <@Joanna> NetSysFire how far is NWR from Hannover 03:07 !tell LarienTelrunya You gonna do a proper page on the Elph role eventually and replace the redirect, or was that fully phased out or something? 03:07 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire. 03:07 Joanna: a person i shared a flat with frequently went to hannover, so its not too far away but its still like 1-2 hours by train 03:11 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 03:15 <@Joanna> Ah ok 03:15 <@Joanna> I'm actually going to some small town near Hannover 03:16 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown, on T:7069, rt[0:43:35] 03:16 <@Joanna> 30 mins away by train, still in Niedersachsen 03:16 Neat. 03:17 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:7229, rt[0:45:18] 03:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 03:20 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Town, on T:7784, rt[0:47:28] 03:20 <@Joanna> Lol NetSysFire, I'll actually be right next to the border to NWR 03:20 its NRW fwiw 03:20 <@Joanna> Oh yeah 03:20 i am basically in the middle of NRW since i live in the ruhr area 03:20 <@Joanna> I always get that the wrong way around for some reason 03:21 <@Joanna> Ach so 03:21 <@Joanna> Friend of mine might move to the Ruhr 03:22 <@Joanna> He is belgian and is thinking of moving to Germany 03:22 <@Joanna> Works in Auto industry, apparently all that shit is in the Ruhr 03:23 [hdf-au] [nh370] Lawliet (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:43491 03:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] Lawliet (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43501 03:27 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 462 points, T:774, killed by a snake 03:30 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn (And-Ana And Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13696 03:34 Hmm... Suspected bones level right below minetown. Full of watch captains. Already hostile. I guess I don't get the murderer penalty if I kill it? 03:34 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered the Big Room, on T:8296, rt[1:02:17] 03:34 Already hostile? 03:35 Yep. Already hostile. I killed it, "You murderer!" 03:35 Was it your bones or something? 03:35 That's possible, but if so I don't remember it. 03:35 <@Joanna> Wonder if I can speedrun NetHack on the ICE WiFi 🤔 03:35 <@Joanna> Hay arahael c: 03:35 joanna: I wouldn't! Not yet! :D 03:35 <@Joanna> How r u 03:35 I'm still recovering from my cold. 03:35 <@Joanna> Wut why not 03:35 Did... Absolutely nothing today. 03:36 <@Joanna> What wouldn't you yet tho 03:37 @luxidream that is in 3.7. just the defaults are different. press ! while in the travel or whatis prompt 03:37 As for why... I dunno! I'd be worried of suddenly loosing track of time playing nethack in my first few weeks of employment! :) 03:37 <@Joanna> God dammit. The ICE WiFi is broken 03:37 <@Joanna> I could use my 4G over usb tether tho 03:38 <@Joanna> Well I did consider that if I was too focused on speedrunning nethack I might miss my stop at Hannover 03:38 <@Joanna> And end up in Chur 03:38 <@Joanna> That would be quite annoying 03:38 [hdf-us] [un] Luxidream (Con Vam Fem Cha), 21220 points, T:9107, killed by a giant mummy 03:38 @luxidream mindflayers are not a playable race so less people complained about this so far 03:39 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Nbn Cha), 5825 points, T:3169, quit 03:39 @Joanna Chur is my hometown, so I approve of you visiting it :-) 03:39 <@Joanna> :o 03:40 <@Joanna> Ok I will speedrun nethack all the way to bhaaks house 03:40 making the protection of bite/suck attacks intelligence based would be fit for the evil variant? (<- YANI?) 03:40 ha, "house" 03:40 <@Joanna> But then u have to put me up for a few weeks and give me a desk somewhere for work-from-home 03:41 <@Joanna> I call everything a house even tho in most cases I'm talking about flats 03:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:41 <@Joanna> Idk why, just an odd habit of mine 03:41 <@Joanna> I use house like it means home 03:41 I'm not there yet but I can ask my parents if they can give you a room :) 03:41 <@Joanna> Haha 03:43 ah, nice 03:43 there are two wifis on the ICE 03:43 WiFionICE doesn't work, but WIFI@DB does 03:44 its fucking laggy as shit tho jfc 03:44 my 4G might actually be better 03:50 [hdf-us] [spl] mung (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:37425 03:53 Rust: Wait - so ICE isn't the work wifi? 03:54 why the fuck would i be at work on a Sunday 03:54 i left academia for a reason 03:55 ICE is the intercity express 03:55 Haha. Ah, I see! 03:55 hence my comments about missing my stop at Hannover and ending up in Chur 03:55 cuz this line goes all the way to Switzerland 03:55 maybe i will actually get it to Chur one day 03:55 bhaak would approve 03:56 Australian trains are crap, so being able to travel that far on a train in europe is crazy weird and awesome. :) 03:56 haha 03:56 well i paid 50 euros for not a very long journey 03:56 but i did book it a bit last minute 03:56 How far is that? 03:56 if you book more in advance you can get some very cheap tickets 03:56 er idk i will check 03:57 i got on at 9:30, arrive at Hannover 11am 03:57 there i change to another train thats a half hour journey 03:57 but the actual distance.. 03:57 Ah, so you're going quite some distance by train. 03:57 Cheaper than driving, I gues. 03:58 probly 03:58 i also have no car lol 03:58 :) 03:58 actually my buddy was originally planning to drive me last weekend 03:58 but he has been a bit unwell 03:58 so i ended up coming by train a week later 03:59 Good stuff. :) 03:59 he's also getting better, fortunately 03:59 still not great but nothing seriously wrong 03:59 That's good. :) 04:00 ye 04:00 arahael: also i turned 30 just now 04:01 Rust: Still young. :D 04:01 * arahael is... 35... 04:02 well, bettert han being 25 04:02 arahael: this line is about 1000 km in 10 hours. depending on where you are in Australia you would end up in the desert :) 04:02 bhaak: lol 04:02 im pretty sure that for a while each successive decade just gets better 04:02 but then you hit actually being old 04:02 and it starts getting shit 04:02 bhaak: did you hit that point yet 04:03 or is it still gravy 04:03 bhaak: :) That's way better than our lines. 1000 km would be a good start - our capital cities aren't linked by high speed rain. 04:03 arahael: F 04:03 bhaak: In practice, it's pretty much cars or airplanes. 04:03 *train. 04:03 i think the US has shitty trains too 04:03 from what i've heard 04:03 I think we compete with the US. 04:03 yea ok 04:04 the UK hasn 04:04 t the worst trains 04:04 but for such a tiny country and short journeys 04:04 they are insanely overpriced trains 04:05 Rust: feeling old? well, there was that moment when I noticed that I look very much like my dad. but my dad always had a beard, so it was "I have my dad's eyes and full beard I'm having right now makes me look like him" 04:05 [hdf-au] [nh370] Lawliet (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 speed boots", on T:44318 04:06 im more asking whether your quality/enjoyment of life has begun to decline yet 04:06 or is it still just getting progressively more awesome 04:07 I'd say it changes, doesn't neccessarily get progressively more awesome. 04:07 i guess it varies cuz some people start getting shitty health problems quite young and thats unlucky and terrible 04:07 Umbire: Appears to be luxor's bones. 04:07 i have a friend in her thirties who has all kinds of back problems and crap 04:08 I'm slightly puzzled as to why they're still hostile 04:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:27196 04:09 arahael: ok but my experience of life thus far has been, to a rough approximation, one on an upwards trajectory 04:09 in terms of life quality and levels of awesome 04:09 Umbire: Also when I killed it, the other town watch were fine. 04:09 Umbire: (Though they didn't witness the murder) 04:09 Rust: in my case, getting older opened up more possibilities than there were closing. going to Greece by train in our 20s, while sleeping on deck on the ferry, was really cool but I wouldn't do that anymore because it's much more convenient to fly 04:09 The watch guy attacked you first and not witnessing anything helps 04:10 Yeah, for me, growing older has generally resulted in more independence. 04:10 bhaak: lol cool 04:10 independence is pog 04:10 Umbire: Yep. Still, it's weird I'm still a murderer. 04:10 solid jobs and more money also pog 04:10 -!- SkydiveMike has joined #hardfought 04:11 bhaak: i dont think ii would sleep on a ferry deck myself 04:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:27390 04:12 Rust: I would also lie if I would claim that having kids didn't impact life quality. but while it can be stressful it also made us do things we wouldn't have done otherwise. I wouldn't ever have gone to Sardinia for example and now I have experienced being at some of the most beautiful beaches on the planet. 04:12 sweet 04:12 i probably won't do the kids things myself 04:12 at least not in the traditional sense 04:13 sometimes i imagine an older me adopting some queer kid with a bad home situation 04:13 Rust: in general I think kids give you chance to stay younger. maybe you don't look younger but you are in mind :) they keep you on the edge and they give you the possibility to keep up with current trends 04:14 altho i hope this sort of thing becomes less necessary 04:14 homophobic/bigoted parents who treat their kids bad is a sad thing 04:15 also if I look at my parents who just entered their 70s, I see people who are still quite active. in their own way, they never travelled that much but they just bought a stationary camper (think of a luxury Schrebergarten) and have been at work redesigning it and building some pretty place out of it for the weekend 04:15 nice 04:16 i think if you look after your health and are not unlucky, you can still have a very nice quality of life til a fairly old age 04:16 but it depends 04:16 I've no idea what it's going to be like having kids, but everbody tries to outdo each other in war stories. Makes it a terrifying thought 04:16 arahael: LOL 04:17 yeah. it very much depend on what you make out of it, i think. and the chances of good health are way up to than in the past and of course being in Europe makes it even more likely 04:17 arahael: if you ever had a non-small pet ... the first two years it doesn't matter much. babies are like puppies. 04:17 haha 04:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:27839 04:18 what's worse are other people. you shouldn't allow other people to interfere unasked on how you go about having kids 04:18 oof yeah 04:18 or pressure you to doing it 04:19 yes 04:19 its a common problem of parents 04:19 bhaak: My wife, I suspect, will worry that's more of a male view. :) 04:19 many of them pressure their kids to give them grandkids 04:19 arahael: which part 04:19 Rust: That they're like a pet. :) 04:19 i wonder why she would think this 04:19 Rust: Because she knows I won't be waking up every few outs to feed them. 04:20 LOL 04:20 *hours. 04:20 Also, I (still?) have the higher paying income, which means I'm more likely to be the one at work. 04:20 arahael: I assume you have two healthy arms so you can hold a baby and a feeding bottle :-) 04:20 what, already planning not to pull your weight? 04:20 bhaak: That means she'll be wanting to express. 04:20 better make sure your wife knows that 04:21 attie: LOL 04:21 thats an off 04:21 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 04:21 oof* 04:21 Hello, never seen you around. 04:21 attie: Haha. :) I was more saying that I'm unable to physically do the feeding. :) We're not planning on doing the bottle if this happens. 04:21 why not 04:22 Umbire: who, me? 04:22 Mhm 04:22 if you're both adamant about proper human breast milk there are solutions that don't invovle her always waking up and feeding the baby 04:22 yeah I haven't been around much lately 04:22 arahael: I would leave that up to her. she is the one that experiences being a cow that gets sucked out. she might change her opinion on the bottle :-) also pumping milk is an option, too. 04:22 i think it is called a breast pump 04:22 yeah 04:23 also hi attie o/ how r u 04:23 fine, thanks! 04:23 we don't know each other but im a friend of stenno :) 04:23 bhaak: Ha, fair point, and yeah. Yeah, pumping's an option, that'll be interesting if she ends up doing that. Maybe she'll be slightly less anti-plastic whilst this is going. :) 04:23 hesitating to go down past medusa 04:23 ah 04:24 you have to be flexible. having kids is like war. the first time you meet the enemy (in this case the baby), plans go out of the window pretty quickly :) 04:24 bhaak: lmfao 04:25 bhaak: That will be very interesting, yeah. 04:25 bhaak: i also noticed this in any kind of crisis or unstable situation 04:25 This Luxor is in an interesting spot - I think the bones pile is in a wall. 04:26 i had to change my plans a lot recently 04:27 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:27508 04:27 I founded a company this year. So far, not one thing went as planned :D 04:27 attie: Haha. :) 04:31 attie: :o 04:31 thats exciting 04:31 what kind of company 04:32 Hopefully things improve 04:32 I'm outie for the night 04:32 we sell tools and services for hardware design 04:32 neat 04:32 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "a blessed fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:27559 04:33 basically the company I was working for last year, we collectively divorced our CEO and made a new company to keep doing the same thing 04:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:33 lol 04:33 power move 04:33 didnt like the CEO i guess 04:34 it was mutual 04:34 he started it 04:34 he fired me 04:34 oic 04:34 well, that move worked out very badly for him i guess :D 04:34 and more importantly he fired the technical co-founder who invented everything at the same time 04:34 lol jeez 04:35 he got what was coming huh 04:35 it's a bit hilarious that he didn't expect that everyone was there because of her and would follow her 04:35 he sounds like a total fool 04:35 possibly arrogant to the point of delusion 04:36 "why don't all these nerds think me, a random MBA with delusions of grandeur, is more awesome" 04:36 lmfao 04:36 what a twat 04:36 still, forming a new company is disruptive and challenging 04:36 hope thats goin well 04:36 I mean, I'm definitely much worse at the actual business administration stuff 04:37 i bet you already learnt a lot tho 04:37 an opportunity for personal growth 04:37 crises precipitate change 04:37 but my qualification as CEO is mostly letting the amazingly brilliant technical lead make the technical decisions 04:38 this seems wise 04:38 you'd think 04:38 we will see how it goes 04:38