00:04 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] secra (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1158 points, T:2473, killed by a giant bat 00:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:29840 00:12 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una), 658 points, T:1436, killed by Mr. Annootok; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 412 points, T:829, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 00:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed AgentOfAntinous' ghost, the former Pillager, on T:2196 00:23 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2789 00:46 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:09 !who 01:09 K2: [hdf-us] samiam [nh370] tinklebear [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2563 01:16 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 925 points, T:1040, killed by brainlessness 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:37009 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37023 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 558 points, T:3268, killed by a watch captain 01:22 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1457, rt[0:05:16] 01:26 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown, on T:2483, rt[0:08:41] 02:03 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Bar Orc Mal Cha) shouted "fuck", on T:5911 02:08 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 02:11 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:20935 02:22 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:8567 02:23 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 18572 points, T:8000, drowned in a pool of water by a giant eel 02:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9036 02:28 -!- fadein has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:37 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 02:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 13523 points, T:10863, killed by a black unicorn 02:41 -!- Lymia has quit [Quit: Hug~♪] 02:41 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 03:05 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 03:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:07 -!- jannis has joined #hardfought 03:08 jonadab: maybe you should actually test your "pudding split = game over" bugfix in a real game, because it obviously doesn't work... :P 03:10 -!- Xjs has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by jannis))] 03:10 -!- jannis is now known as Xjs 03:13 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 03:14 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 03:22 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 03:22 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:23 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 03:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) stole 7660 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kinojevis' general store, on T:2457 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1342 points, T:2543, killed by a Kop Sergeant 03:27 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) became Crom's Envoy of Balance, on T:19351 03:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:37 amateurhour: do you want to watch me do the ice queen branch? :) 03:39 I do but I'm at work so I can't unfortunately 03:39 dang 03:41 ugh, gonna take a while to actually get there (probably), because the second wyrm caves level is a clone of the grund stronghold 03:41 that's good though! 03:41 yeah it has nice loot 03:41 apart from the stupid spinach bug grund's is really cool 03:42 lol conducts 03:46 You kill the chrome captain! Welcome to experience level 20. 03:46 You feel resistant to paralysis! 03:46 You feel more comfortable in your skills. 03:46 You learn how to perform research! You learn how to perform booze! 03:46 para resistance???? 03:46 yes :D 03:46 uberrole 03:46 sec get intrinsic discount action at XL20 03:47 discount action is epic, helps deal with the game-ending bs attacks 03:47 u b e r r o l e 03:47 lol 03:47 you'd better ascend this 03:49 heh, can't promise anything, but I'll try 03:50 what else does sec get at levelup? 03:50 intrinsic lifesaving? 03:51 magical breathing at 10, scent view at 15, psi resistance at 18, and haven't spoiled myself about the post-XL20 things yet 03:51 -!- Xjs has quit [Quit: Good night.] 03:51 I wish I could trick^Wconvince Umbire to write the roles/races pages where they listed this stuff 03:51 :) 03:52 eh, those are subject to change anyway in case I decide to add new intrinsics, techniques and things 03:52 yeah but once the page exists and is good 03:52 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 03:52 we can whinge at you to keep them up to date 03:52 :) 03:58 fooooook 03:58 why are dungeon trolls contaminated 03:59 karma 04:00 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:00 haste self spell! since I'm without speed boots, this is actually useful 04:00 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1183 points, T:2927, killed by a grid bug 04:09 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Tha Ang Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Silver Dragon Scale Mail", on T:9466 04:11 alright now I'm on K2's evil level of evilness :D 04:12 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 541 points, T:805, killed by a rothe 04:13 <@riker> amy which level is that lol 04:13 the ice queen's domain 04:14 <@riker> ahhh 04:14 <@riker> for some reason i very much doubt that it's that evil in comparison to some of slex's levels 04:14 originally Kathryn the Fleece Bundle Girl but in slex there's Vera the Ice Queen instead 04:14 <@riker> for example, a full level adom room 04:14 it can be horrid, sometimes the walls get replaced with terrain that monsters can cross 04:15 so it's a pretty whack big room 04:15 thankfully that didn't happen in my case 04:16 yeah bcuz u check if pname is amateurhour before enabling FU-walls 04:17 can't decide which is worse, that 3x2 of special zoos or that floor where 99% of the squares are diggable rock and traps 04:17 eh, level 13 isn't that bad IMHO 04:20 !pom 04:20 rebatela: The moon is full for 3 more days. 04:20 hey what happens if someone leaves bones with branch stairs in 04:20 but you've already found all the branches? 04:20 dunno, because bones levels cannot be left on levels with branch stairs :P 04:20 what about magic portals? 04:21 also count as branches and therefore of course can't leave bones either 04:21 fair enough 04:21 this is vanilla behavior by the way 04:22 weird, I wonder how dnh had a bug where minetown bones could have a branch then if it's vanilla 04:22 who knows what changes dnh makes 04:22 <@riker> hackery involved gnr quest 04:23 <@riker> please remember that this is hte same branch where any hole will yeet you there, and I think the stairs are also added when the level is loaded for the first time post-level creation so 04:23 ah so it was specific to how gnome ranger quest branch was added there 04:23 <@riker> i'm assuming so, since all other branch levels ARE nobones 04:24 <@riker> which is a relatively substantial part of the main dungeon - around 1/4? mines, sea, ludios, temple of moloch, lost tomb, law, neu, cha, role quest 04:24 <@riker> oh and soko for 10 levels total 04:24 <@riker> so actually like 1/3 damn 04:25 the middle floors of the quest aren't necessarily no-bones in vanilla 04:25 <@riker> nah i meant main dungeon floors 04:25 oh right yeah 04:25 <@riker> that's actually 13 levels out, 12 if you assume mines is generated on lvl 2 or 3 04:25 <@riker> aka, half of the main dungeon is nobones 04:26 <@riker> i don't know if dnh castle is bonesable or not but I think it's not either, so even more strongly half 04:26 man that last ice queen level is really a challenge, lots of zoos and mastodons/woolly mammoths everywhere 04:27 <@riker> that sucks :/ reasonable but sucks and i see no non-hacky solution 04:27 <@riker> maybe you could sort branch bones into their own category for each branch but that seems really fucky for sea, moloch, tomb at least since you can have those on like, medusa's level (aside from the obvious issues with dlvl18 monsters transplanted to dlvl5) 04:28 <@riker> i suppose you could do that for align quests & quest branch level :/ ludios maybe more acceptable but still a weaker form of ^ 04:28 the bones could save without the branches included, and branch points added later on? 04:28 oh no, don't tell me this is a special zoo with scrolls 04:29 <@riker> amateurhour i thought about that but it would really fuck with some particular bones levels i think 04:29 <@riker> like, obviously that's a no-go for align quests 04:30 how come? things like illurien? 04:30 -!- int is now known as mekkis 04:30 <@riker> for align quests? or in general 04:30 yeah why's it a no-go for align quests I mean 04:30 <@riker> please remember the layout of align quest branch levels 04:30 <@riker> oh inside them it's legal 04:31 <@riker> illurien is a no-go, i believe spire is no-go and maybe sum of all but that's due to special cased levels more than anything else 04:31 <@riker> *illurien branch is a no-go bc branch rules 04:31 <@riker> i've definitely found my own outlands bones before 04:31 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Tha Ang Fem Cha) obtained the luckstone from Mines End, on T:11543 04:32 <@riker> er, lost cities 04:33 <@riker> god somebody really needs to write a fake bones function 04:33 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:34 <@riker> pick one a random monster that's roughly a level or two too early, or maybe just 2-3 in depth monsters, and write some bastardized form of the mplayer inventories but add some random midgame gear 04:34 <@riker> drop that sucker on a level with a 1/20 chance, max of once per game 04:34 <@riker> maybe an extra random bones in gehennom with 1/30 chance per level, again once per game 04:36 [hdf-eu] [slex] Felzin (AmyBSOD) (Sec Ang Mal Cha) killed Osbourne, on T:60148 04:36 [hdf-eu] [slex] Felzin (AmyBSOD) (Sec Ang Mal Cha) killed the proximal restuffing, on T:60160 04:37 that sounds fun riker 04:37 that was actually Boa-Moa; I now have enough sanity to have monsters randomly display with other names 04:38 <@riker> amy how do you come up with your nicks? 04:38 <@riker> like, felzin 04:38 that one is actually an intentional misspelling of "Jelzin" (as in Boris) 04:39 <@riker> wack 04:39 <@riker> googling it only gave some hungarian dubstep 04:39 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Yeltsin 04:40 wtf I can't seem to damage Vera, she keeps casting healing 04:42 got a unihorn? 04:42 yes 04:43 gaaaaaaaaaaaah 04:43 did something just steal your bell or was that a hallu message? 04:44 lol get rekt by bad gem 04:44 it did, but because it did so via exploding, I could just pick it back up 04:45 btw, introduced my friend in nethack, he didnt played a single game but as a coder he took a challenge to work on slex bot in future (yes I told him that is nearly impossible and why, didnt stopped) 04:45 slex bot? 04:45 yup 04:45 when danger reared its ugly head they bravely turned their tail and fled 04:48 phew 04:48 now beat the enchantress for the epic reward 04:49 [hdf-eu] [slex] Felzin (AmyBSOD) (Sec Ang Mal Cha) killed the invisible Vera the Ice Queen, on T:60345 04:49 okay as expected, none of my skills can actually be enhanced now as a result of that reward :P 04:50 you not gonna beat the enchantress? 04:50 I am, gonna loot the chests first though since she didn't wake up 04:50 yaaaaaay saddle get (I think that one's actually guaranteed?) 04:50 I think it is 04:51 meant for pegasus or whatever the fake one is called 04:51 why did you put a potion in there? 04:51 huh where did I put a potion? 04:51 in the top left box I think? 04:51 one of the boxes 04:51 nah it should be in my box actually 04:52 gonna need a bit more firepower for the enchantress 04:52 don't die 04:52 gah why is she fleeing 04:53 if in doubt pull out 04:53 heh I wanted that pet dead anyway 04:53 yani: a 2-tailed worm 04:53 annoyingly she has a bow too, so she can actually shoot those stupid arrows back... 04:54 lol more firepower! now I'm master with missile weapons already, but can still enhance it further 04:56 cheesed it, nice 04:56 [hdf-eu] [slex] Felzin (AmyBSOD) (Sec Ang Mal Cha) killed the invisible Elaine the Enchantress, on T:60479 04:56 lol another level up! 04:56 also TROPHY GET! 04:56 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:49021 04:57 gonna quaff those potions now, hopefully it picks the right techs to increase 04:57 it won't 04:57 haha two levels for symbiosis already 04:57 meh reinforce memory, that one's not important 04:57 yay secure identify 04:57 and another for symbiosis 04:57 the cooldown on secure identify is like 10k turns anway 04:57 and research! yay! 04:58 yeah but every little bit helps 04:58 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Tha Ang Fem Cha) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:13843 04:59 gonna eat something irl now 04:59 also have to leave for tour in a bit less than an hour 05:02 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14178, rt[3:25:45] 05:03 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:04 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1523, rt[0:08:14] 05:07 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1077 points, T:1850, killed by a gnome king 05:16 alright, gonna play for a little more 05:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:12202 05:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Geryon, on T:51052 05:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1652873 points, T:51248, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 05:44 whoa 05:49 bhaak: thanks for putting the dnhslex trophies back where they belong. now I'd still like to see the new slex trophies get added *bundlebundlebundle* ♥ *hug* 05:50 yo 05:51 but if the new trophies get added people might play slex? 05:51 guess who's picking up WORK LAPPY and ARBEITSVERTRAG today 05:51 we shouldn't encourage dangerous behaviour 05:51 zomg hype xyzasdf 05:51 nice 05:51 also i should shower and get ready lol 05:51 oh noes i just shoulded myself 05:51 :c 05:51 stil tho 05:52 gotta go now, seeya guys :) also only a few dungeon levels until my char finally hits castle! 05:52 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:52 amateurhour: oh also i beat the skele 05:54 gratz 05:54 thx :> 05:55 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:01 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Tha Ang Fem Cha), 296991 points, T:20355, killed by a monster (Pustulence) 06:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 19709 points, T:9874, killed by an ettin mummy 06:04 <@riker> stella what are u gonna do with your life now that you've beaten sans 06:05 well, riker 06:05 I suppose now if I die at this young age of 29 06:05 i will at least die knowing that i have accomplished what i came into this world to do 06:07 @riker i could also maybe play Celeste 06:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2025 06:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Val Hum Fem Law), 2652 points, T:2106, killed by a bolt of lightning 06:11 or dnethack 06:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Wink, Wink, nudge, nudge. Know what I mean?] 06:16 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Big Room, on T:16603, rt[4:40:16] 06:17 <@riker> I'd watch you play celeste fs 06:21 <@riker> I should really get around to finishing the last C sides 06:26 my old laptop is too shit to stream Celeste 06:26 but maybe my work lappy ... ;> 06:31 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Tha Ran Fem Cha), 2271 points, T:1020, killed by a monster (walking stick blubberer) 06:36 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:41 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:42 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 06:45 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Tha Ran Fem Cha), 1635 points, T:1138, killed by a monster (kobold mummy), while helplessly knocked out 06:49 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 06:49 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 06:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:49 -!- chriswork has joined #hardfought 06:50 -!- chriswork has quit [Changing host] 06:50 -!- chriswork has joined #hardfought 06:50 -!- chriswork is now known as stennowork 06:50 hello everyone 06:51 hi thar 06:51 oh hey introsp3ctive 06:51 just getting all my settings done for the new server 06:51 you added me on discord but i wasn't sure who you were so i didn't accept yet lol 06:51 lol 06:51 can somebody fill me in with what happened on freenode yesterday? I heard people got their channels disowned? 06:52 stennowork: everyone from freenode resigned it seems 06:52 yeah i know about that but apparently something nasty happened yesterday 06:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:52 i got a PM from another op of a channel i op 06:52 people got -o'd and -F'd 06:53 according to the op, because they had libera in their topic? 06:53 yes 06:53 this happened to numerous channels 06:53 mp 06:53 good to know 06:53 do we still own #nethack? 06:53 nope 06:53 oh wow 06:54 #nethack, #hardfought both got owned 06:54 that was one of the oldest channels on freenode 06:54 beacuse the toipc was "in violation of freenode policy" 06:54 i checked and i still have ops in ##javascript, so they didn't do it to us 06:54 wot 06:54 i think paxed actually does still have flags because their bot fucked up 06:54 but i think he decided we might as well move now 06:54 Andrew Lee is having a tantrum 06:54 so i will encorage the other ops that we have to move ##javascript officially too now 06:54 and killing Freenode faster by his own actions 06:54 given the new staff over there evidently don't care 06:54 rofl 06:55 we already moved it but were very quiet about it and let the people vote with their feet 06:55 yeah if you leave it out of /topic you're probably safe 06:55 #nhs-dev got owned as well 06:55 but for moving we have to put it in the topic 06:55 i'd already dropped that tho 06:55 i assume we lost ##jsgolf with that too 06:55 i just added the message yesterday 06:56 #tnnt got owned too 06:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 498 points, T:1010, killed by a coyote 06:56 they just took everything that mentioned libera 06:56 in topic 06:56 indiscriminately 06:57 ok i gotta go 06:57 yup 06:57 thats insane 06:57 i've still got founder flag, i removed the forward to ##nethack, but left the channel muted 06:57 and changed the topic to say we've moved 06:58 yeah ok, i will talk to the other ##javascript ops so we can be more vocal about a switch 06:59 also, they hit #atheme, which, you know, software they use? ;) 06:59 blep 06:59 lmao 07:00 as atheme maintainer, i'd just like to point out that freenode is running an atheme version that's unsupported for at least two reasons anyway 07:01 so uh, good luck i suppose 07:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 916 points, T:718, killed by a magic missile 07:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 512 points, T:394, killed by an invisible gnome lord 07:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 550 points, T:1775, killed by an arrow 07:08 -!- fedorafan has joined #hardfought 07:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] xor (Val Hum Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:7155 07:10 -!- fedorafan has left #hardfought 07:10 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 07:11 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Sam Hum Mal Law) stole 90 zorkmids of merchandise from the used armor dealership of Kadirli on T:18181 07:12 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Kadirli on T:18193 07:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 3339 points, T:2839, killed by a kitten 07:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 701 points, T:807, killed by a homunculus 07:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a leather ornamental cope entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:301 07:16 K2: fixed one 3.7 impossible this morning 07:18 the zombie thing? 07:18 ye 07:19 sweet, i saw 07:19 evilhack/xnethack had/have the same problem 07:19 we saw it in action on evilhack which prompted qt to make issue #520 07:19 i need to fuz a bit when i've got the time, no idea if the latest changes caused other stuff 07:20 my fix for evilhack was also to make a check for geno'd monsters (mvitals[].flags etc etc) 07:21 business meetings are great because there is free food for developers 07:22 so yeah, the late night freenode massacre 07:22 just wow 07:23 that happened 07:23 night of the long knives 07:23 yup 07:23 i cant believe they did that to #nethack 07:23 paxed registered that channel over 17 years ago 07:23 any channel with "libera" in the topic got hit 07:24 yeah 07:24 but the way it was done... not so much as even a reach around 07:24 no communication with channel ops, nothing 07:24 #ubuntu, #wikipedia, #gentoo, #btrfs, #vim, #curl, ... 07:25 didn't you even get +F from lilo themself? 07:25 yup 07:25 i was uncomfortable switching networks because i knew nothing about the reason but sounds like y'all made the right call 07:25 what a shame 07:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 440 points, T:1015, killed by a bat 07:30 shameful, that is internet culture basically getting erased 07:30 the once mighty freenode is now fallen from grace 07:32 looks like everyone is way ahead of me in changing the links at least :) 07:32 rip freenode 07:33 whaddup luxi 07:33 hahah. i think i was a test dummy for overseas donations. 07:33 Mar 18 00:13:46 Bank of Texas, 5320 Bellaire Blvd. Houston, Texas 77401 USA 07:33 Mar 18 00:14:24 ABA number (routing code): 111014325, account: 2902026037 07:34 wow 07:34 heya intro 07:34 internet history 07:35 the moment you got ops is also in the nhqdb https://nhqdb.alt.org/?367 but its downvoted hard :P 07:35 -!- fadein has joined #hardfought 07:36 i feel like some of those are just downvoted because 07:36 the context has been lost 07:37 yeah 07:38 this is also a bit a reason why i am hesitating of adding new quotes which are not neccessarily nethack related but community related 07:38 it's easier to lose the context 07:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:854 07:43 -!- luxidream has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:50 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:51 uhh, I got a problem 07:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2886 points, T:2616, zombified by an elf zombie, while frozen by a potion 07:51 Waiting for access to perm. (0 retries left). 07:51 I give up. Sorry. 07:51 Perhaps there is an old /slex-2.7.1/perm_lock around? 07:51 doesnt let me to start a new run 07:52 lemme have a look 07:52 maxlunar which server 07:52 nvm, it started, but it was US server 07:52 after like 4-5 tries 07:53 hmm 07:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2157 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 490 points, T:1123, killed by a kobold lord 08:06 -!- Xjs has quit [Quit: Good night.] 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3737 08:10 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2302 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 1174 points, T:2372, killed by a falling object 08:13 !lastgame post163 08:13 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/nethack4/dumplog/2021-02-08%2013%3A12%3A39%2C%20sdalf-Kni-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/nethack/dumplog/1622031157.nh.html 08:16 regarding context, i mean there is probably now a new generation of nethack players who never did pudding farming 08:16 so some of the quotes will not make sense to them anymore 08:17 well at least you can plug "pudding farming" into nethackwiki and learn what it is 08:17 yeah i guess 08:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3221 points, T:2633, killed by a soldier ant 08:17 just found this one lmao https://nhqdb.alt.org/?814 08:17 -!- Xjs has quit [Quit: Good night.] 08:19 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 08:19 paxed: while you still have ops in #nethack on freenode you may want to say something about go look at the nethackwiki rather than just "shut down, go away". newcomers might think that it means that there's no nethack irc presence at all 08:20 I don't have the slightest idea what freenode's new adminstration is thinking 08:20 But, I guess they demonstrated what happens when you poke a hornets' nest? 08:21 not much, but hopefully this will not be our issue anymore in the future 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2140 08:23 [hdf-us] [slex] Drizossk (Ana Lic Mal Neu), 24688 points, T:1152, killed by a kick in the nuts 08:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2356 points, T:2239, killed by a giant mimic 08:24 yep... 08:25 They did a good job helping LiberaChat grow I guess 08:26 the growth seems to be insane 08:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:5600 08:30 [hdf-us] [ndnh] xor (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Lokoban, on T:8480 08:33 https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse2 08:34 every time andrew lee touts how many users are still on freenode I want to ask "Yeah, but how's the message volume?" 08:35 probs really high because everyone talks about it all the time :^) 08:36 to expect that everyone just switches to a new network in the matter of days is not realistic anyway 08:36 there is a certain dynamic here 08:36 if it were up to me I wouldn't have moved and would be running dual stack because it was like "eh why, I doubt anything is gonna change" 08:36 but like goddamn he even got fence shitters like me off the fence 08:36 fence shitters 08:37 haha 08:38 i was quite neutral too until tonight 08:38 this is not acceptable 08:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6437 08:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:6545 08:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed mung's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:6673 08:41 the drum he keeps beating is "freenode is THE open source chat hub, there can never be another one" which is just... not true. the open source hub is where the open source people are 08:41 Sure there can. 08:41 It turns out Freenode is not the domain or the network, opps. 08:41 freenode will not be the same after this anymore 08:42 certainly people planning to set up a new project will think twice now 08:43 Given Freenode's staff left, I suspect it's just dead p.much. 08:45 My surprise is negative. Narccicists are very good at destroying themselves. 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3397 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3397 08:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3541 08:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful horse, on T:13674 08:52 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/nlg9wv/several_nethack_irc_channels_have_moved_to/ 08:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13851 08:56 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 13233 points, T:3028, killed by an energy vortex, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2796 08:59 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 09:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] xor (Val Hum Fem Neu), 73763 points, T:10756, killed by a hungry dead 09:03 yay, finally a good start. Robbed armor shop, got myself artifact katana on next level 09:04 now fall on it to pay for the shame of theft 09:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a brown mold, on T:14069 09:07 aosdict: i put a link to the wiki in the topic, and added news item in the wiki 09:07 nice 09:07 even though I play as neutral, my philosophy is chaotic :D 09:09 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4199 points, T:2200, killed by a giant mimic 09:09 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 15754 points, T:9416, killed by a hill orc 09:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) was given Magicbane, on T:3877 09:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) was given Frost Brand, on T:4588 09:19 <@the_eternal_paradox> yaay 09:20 <@the_eternal_paradox> also I just summoned Yeenoghu again, and I just found out he isn't stone resistant, should I come back later with a cockatrice just for fun? 09:20 nice overratedbrand 09:20 actually i don't know how good it is in dnh 09:22 you can't talk about it like that in dnh, for the same reason you can't talk about grays 09:22 _no_ paci ascension in 3.6.6 on NAO 09:22 yeah fair 09:23 the power shift is just so insane 09:23 i don't know enough about how it is in dnh 09:23 <@Joanna> Sup y'all 09:23 even if it was stock vanilla frostbrand ( a good weapon btw) 09:23 looking forward to finding it out during junethack though 09:23 <@Joanna> I got so much loot 😮 09:23 but frostbrand and firebrand are changed, still the same premise of 2x dmg elemental but they can be offhanded with each other, and the base item can be any blade 09:24 or even gauntlets i think 09:24 yeah 09:24 but only if wished that way, never randomly generating as gauntlets and only randomly generating as certain blades that generate artifactably 09:24 wiki says you can find it as gaunts 09:24 oh neat 09:24 well, 2x dmg means so much less in dnh than vanilla 09:25 not a fan of elemental damage i have to admit 09:25 yeah, still great though 09:25 well it's explosion damage which has different resists or something 09:25 so it's generally 2x 09:25 ahhh 09:26 yeah ok they would basically totally suck if not that 09:26 like maybe usable with some cool custom setups as a pair 09:26 ok gauntlets of firebrand which cause explosions is super badass 09:26 they dont cause explosions 09:26 i would just use them for coolness factor 09:26 oh 09:26 they deal explosion type damage 09:27 so shit that resists like slashing or whatever wont resist a firebrand long sword hit 09:27 i see 09:27 if you want exploding punch attacks, play ndnh mystic 09:27 epic^ 09:27 * stennowork makes a note for junethack 09:27 maybe i will just end up playing ndnh instead of dnh 09:27 play dnh before ndnh though, it makes ndnh sweeter 09:27 <@Joanna> They gave me a company t-shirt rofl 09:28 such teambuilding 09:28 yeah ndnh is really meant for people that have played enough dnh that they want other shit and honestly dnh is better than ndnh right now 09:28 <@Joanna> And I'm already planning for stealing a company mug in a few years when I leave 09:28 okay now quit the job and sell the t-shirt 09:28 e z profit 09:28 but when ndnh 2 is ready >:) 09:28 repeat with other companies 09:28 >:) 09:28 <@Joanna> Rofl amateurhour 09:28 'build a life by stealing office supplies' 09:28 <@Joanna> XD 09:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] TudCruz (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3284 09:28 Employers Hate Them! 09:29 its a book by scott adams 09:29 Build a Better Life by Stealing Office Supplies : Dogbert's Big Book of Business 09:29 <@Joanna> They gave me a miniscule laptop with no ethernet port tho 09:30 <@Joanna> What mad sorcery is this 09:30 oh, an apple? 09:30 macbook? 09:30 <@Joanna> Nah dell 09:30 <@nabru> Eh, my current laptop doesn't have Ethernet either 09:30 <@nabru> I wound up buying an USB Ethernet thingy 09:30 Hi Joannabru 09:30 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5995 points, T:3371, killed by a dwarvish lord 09:30 <@nabru> Hello 09:30 Hello @nabru, Welcome to #hardfought 09:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) was given Quicksilver, on T:5592 09:30 <@Joanna> WiFi bandwidth is teh suck yea I was thinking of doing exactly that nabru 09:30 <@Joanna> Hi Umbhour 09:31 wait n draft wifi is not bad at all 09:32 600Mbit/s on paper 09:32 <@Joanna> amateurhour how much u reckon I can get per individual company t-shirt 09:32 <@Joanna> I will need to start a few new jobs per month potentially 🤔 09:32 <@Joanna> To support my expensive lifestyle 09:33 eat the shirts 09:33 for sustenance 09:33 it's like speedrunning nethack, just do what you did to ascend this job but faster 09:33 <@Joanna> :o 09:34 <@Joanna> Sounds like a solid plan 09:34 <@Joanna> Maybe I can eat this monitor too 09:34 <@Joanna> It is heavy so probably very nutritious 09:34 makes sense 09:34 all the job speedrunners i know did/do way too many drugs and cant hold a forklift warehouse job for more than a couple weeks at most 09:34 heavy = nutritions 09:35 <@Joanna> lmfao demo 09:35 i will transition to only eat lead from here on 09:35 <@Joanna> That's how you do it 09:37 stennowork: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fImJQmxvwrc 09:37 i was expecting 'steel is heavier then feathers' 09:40 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:41 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossk (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 2043 points, T:2877, killed by an Uruk-hai 09:42 -!- joppe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:42 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha), 59449 points, T:7578, quit 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 8763 points, T:5191, killed by a Grey-elf 09:47 <@nabru> ! lastgame wintergalaxy88 09:47 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/wintergalaxy88/dnethack/dumplog/1622032081.dnh.txt 09:50 -!- stennowork is now known as k1 09:50 -!- k1 is now known as stennowork 10:00 gme moass happening 10:00 K2, you still hold gme? 10:01 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1959 points, T:1386, quit 10:01 -!- joppe has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:05 ppl asking "yo r u holding" and they arent even talking about drugs 10:05 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 10:12 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Moria, on T:19629, rt[5:57:28] 10:18 fuck yea 10:18 got my loots home 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:1495 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1564 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3067 10:21 [hdf-us] [dyn] OpyatRabota (RossinK) (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1849 points, T:3075, killed by a lynx 10:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:21 -!- rtra has joined #hardfought 10:22 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Drauglir, on T:42987 10:22 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1319 points, T:3135, killed by a dwarf 10:23 -!- krm26_ has joined #hardfought 10:26 !PoM 10:26 APic: The moon is full for 3 more days. 10:27 [hdf-us] [dyn] Roga (RossinK) (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 245 points, T:299, killed by a falling rock 10:27 -!- krm26 has quit [Client Quit] 10:27 -!- krm26_ has quit [Client Quit] 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:2874 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2011 points, T:2977, killed by a Woodland-elf 10:34 -!- BeeHolder has joined #hardfought 10:37 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9125 10:41 -!- BeeHolder has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:41 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:49 -!- antigulp has joined #hardfought 10:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v antigulp] by ChanServ 10:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:50 -!- antigulp has left #hardfought 10:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 10:51 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 10:52 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 10:53 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 126 points, T:268, killed by a bear trap 10:54 splicehack YANI: Mephisto, when approached and still peaceful, doesn't ask for tribute like normal. Instead, he offers to buy your soul in exchange for powerful assistance getting the Amulet. If you agree, you are granted amazing combat advantages like a huge intrinsic damage and AC boost. One of two bad things can happen as a result: you have a 1/3? 1/4? chance of failing to ascend when the Amulet is 10:54 offered as he claims your soul (your god still gets the Amulet), and there is additional risk that he appears in Gehennom after you have the Amulet and tries to take everything for himself. 10:54 (this is generalizable to a variant agnostic YANI if you assume "add Mephisto[pheles]") 10:56 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Ancient Brain, on T:45806 11:00 !rng run nethack | play with new toys 11:00 Stella: run nethack 11:00 okey if u say so Beholder 11:00 aren't you at work Stella 11:00 aosdict: my start date is June 1st 11:00 i just went in to pick up all the LOOT 11:00 ah 11:00 like this tiny dell laptop and stuff 11:01 its very smol 11:01 but they also gave me a huge monitor so 11:01 i guess that's fine :3 11:02 aosdict: Oh yeah, how's the YANI archive thing going 11:03 fine? haven't done much since the last update 11:03 btw, as of today freenode is no longer monitored for ideas 11:03 aosdict: i am extremely shocked to learn this 11:03 what could have prompted such a change? 11:04 I thought you mentioned having trouble with it at some point 11:04 Probably remember wrong 11:04 hey that sounds like a cool idea aosdict 11:04 aosdict's main problem with the archive is that I pester them repeatedly for updates :^) 11:04 i don't believe u 11:05 the old a-hour would never pester anyone about nethack things 11:05 i call shenanigans and imposter 11:05 BOBBLE HATS WHEN ARCHIVE UPDATE WHEN UNFLIP SOKOBAN WHEN 11:05 i bet someone stole their nick during the shift to libera 11:05 the real amateurhour isn't around anymore D: 11:05 what are we gonna do ;-; 11:05 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a pair of combat boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:55495 11:06 -!- Xjs has quit [Quit: Good night.] 11:09 rip a-hour :( 11:09 F in the chat folks 11:09 F and GGs for a-hour uguise 11:10 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Durin's Bane, on T:21356 11:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1593 11:11 https://youtu.be/QcbR1J_4ICg?t=53 11:12 -!- rtra has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:13 -!- rtra has joined #hardfought 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1023 points, T:1360, killed by a bolt of fire 11:15 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1244 points, T:1737, killed by a werejackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:15 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law), 533612 points, T:47574, quit 11:16 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 3331 points, T:2191, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted priest of the Devil 11:22 [hdf-us] [spl] ligang (Val Hum Fem Law), 166 points, T:773, offed by a coyote, while sleeping 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 7 points, T:43, killed by a scroll of earth 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 230 points, T:539, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2532 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:46180 11:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:23803 11:32 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 11:32 <@nabru> !coffee 11:32 * Beholder tosses @nabru a cup of cafe latte, brewed by Izchak at 12 degrees Fahrenheit. 11:33 Hm, killed High Priestess, but no Amluet of Yendor lies around 11:34 Probably Yeenoghu picked it up? 11:34 Probably 11:35 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:3245 11:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3250 11:38 stennowork yeah i still have some GME 11:38 oh my 11:39 this started yesterday, looks like its still going 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1892 11:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3570 11:43 rip paci 11:43 -!- rtra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1472 11:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:46317 11:44 Yup, he had the Amulet ☺ 11:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:46318 11:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Mal Law), 51 points, T:33, killed by an uninjured jackal 11:45 YANI: a Gnoll-specific Infidel style role whose purpose is to bring Yeenoghu back to godhood 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1473 points, T:2072, killed by a fire ant, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 11:47 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a crossbow bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4495 11:51 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a runed dagger named Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4777 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1113 points, T:2752, killed by a rothe 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1751 12:08 "The captcha trap can simply be ignored if you don't feel like actually solving them. Just hit escape and they will go away with no ill effects.". hmm sure random engraving 12:09 lol 12:11 it is bad to type it wrong 12:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32825 12:14 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:14 You see here a ring mail named ShivanHunter's Unused Prize {100}. 12:14 its even an artifact 12:15 lmfao 12:15 A metallic suit of armor that offers little protection. Artifact specs: magic resistance, reflection, displacement, blood mana and stun when worn. 12:17 i found jonadab's ghost 12:18 I have no idea what blood mana is 12:18 casting from hp id guess? 12:18 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 12:19 [hdf-eu] [slex] NetSysFire (Gla Dev Fem Cha), 4458 points, T:1309, killed by a monster (black bat) 12:19 rip me 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2710 12:21 it looks like chance of casting spell is based on your current hp 12:21 like scaled by hp/hpmax 12:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Minetown, on T:2160 12:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:33217 12:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Reconnoiteress, on T:13071 12:24 weird 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1084 points, T:1353, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Sam Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 91 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24894 12:30 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 12:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] ScienceBall (Bar Hum Fem Cha) destroyed tsingi's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:12370 12:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13347 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 9114 points, T:4074, killed by a gargoyle 12:38 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 12:42 -!- antigulp has joined #hardfought 12:42 -!- antigulp has quit [Client Quit] 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products (lump of royal jelly) for the first time, on T:3898 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 188 points, T:2135, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:35940 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2283 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4282 12:49 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:49 [hdf-au] [nh370] ScienceBall (Bar Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:12979 12:56 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products (cream pie) for the first time, on T:3569 12:59 [hdf-eu] [4k] Electro (ElectroBlueGuy) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1260 points, T:902, quit 13:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:47281 13:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:47281 13:05 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2371, rt[0:08:34] 13:07 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:11 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:11 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4214, rt[0:14:55] 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5383 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6414 13:19 <@ScienceBall> What does "You hear the roaring of a confused bear!" mean? I can find "You hear the roaring of an angry bear!" on the wiki, but not "confused". 13:19 bugbear or owlbear stepped into a bear trap 13:19 ^ 13:19 <@ScienceBall> That's "angry" 13:19 oh confused 13:19 Should be on the beartrap article/section/w.e. 13:19 damn i really cant read lol 13:20 confused bear is a random trap, angry bear is a trap YOU set 13:20 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 16235 points, T:6782, [0:24:08], killed by an energy vortex 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 8598 points, T:6168, zombified by an orc zombie 13:20 wait idk 13:21 confused bear is web, angry bear is bear trap 13:21 ^ 13:22 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "1111", on T:6727 13:23 <@ScienceBall> Thanks for the info. It was on the traps page, but not the full sentence like the beartrap page had. 13:24 i dont even look at the wiki anymore for shit like that i just go straight to the source cause the wiki got ppl saying ANYTHING on it (me included when i dont check the source) 13:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Sorcerer, on T:47650 13:25 The beautiful thing about the wiki is you can fix that kinda shit when it happens 13:25 As I've been trying to 13:25 Source-diving is a good habit independent of that 13:25 the source moves faster than the wiki... or does it? 13:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:47661 13:26 <@ScienceBall> I'll make a redirect like the bear trap page has. 13:27 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1410 points, T:2134, [0:05:05], killed by a wolf 13:27 i associate the pit viper pit messages with the arc locate quest level 13:27 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:28 Because they happen most there, naturally 13:29 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 609 points, T:641, [0:02:00], killed by a hobbit, while sleeping 13:29 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:36404 13:33 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 869 points, T:1459, [0:03:49], killed by a bat 13:33 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:34 <@ScienceBall> By the way, why did my pet stop having a highlighted background when it polymorphed into a baby black dragon? Is it because of the glyph color? 13:34 Probably 13:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] ScienceBall (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14566 13:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:47683 13:38 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:36461 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Herbalist, on T:41254 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Magistra, on T:41258 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Physician, on T:41261 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Chirurgeon, on T:41264 13:42 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:2355, rt[0:07:26] 13:42 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1931 points, T:2355, rt[0:07:26], wc[0:08:55], killed by a bolt of fire 13:43 <@Shadow_Rider> wait how did i kill the oracle 13:43 <@Shadow_Rider> !lastgame 13:43 @Shadow_Rider: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/E/ElectroBlueGuy/nhfourk/dumps/2021-05-26%2016%3A59%3A14%2C%20Electro-Val-Hum-Fem-Neu%2C%20quit.txt | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/setseed/dumplog/1622050398.seed.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1622029915.evil.html 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed oh6's ghost, the former Adventurer, on T:41430 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nicolau (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:8 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36935 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:36946 13:48 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:47800 13:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by Famine), on T:47813 13:51 ☹ 13:51 D:! 13:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2016716 points, T:47843, ascended 13:53 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/APic/nethack/dumplog/1606842936.nh.html 13:54 That was soo fscking close -_- 13:54 Congrats APic! 13:54 ktnx 13:54 Phew 13:54 good shit 13:56 woop congrats 13:56 \o/ 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:37155 13:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] TudCruz (Pir Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13002 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:37169 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Sorcerer, on T:37218 14:01 wooooo 14:01 poggers 14:01 well done APic 14:02 Well, without that one Death it would be moar well 😉 14:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:07 NetSysFire: What variant? Man, that must have been an old bones file; I haven't played in weeks. 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 293 points, T:1013, killed by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 14:10 jonadab: slex 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1927 14:11 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:11 4k still got bones from last jnh im about to find this year 14:11 long live libera 14:11 NetSysFire: Oh, man, those bones must be several _years_ old then. 14:12 I gave up on slex a looooong time ago. 14:12 Back when it started deliberately incorporating Evil Patch Ideas. 14:14 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Neu) killed Grund the Orc King, on T:10862 14:14 yiss 14:16 jonadab: have you seen the evilvariant mode? 14:16 it comes with even more EPIs 14:17 like a mysterious force which sends you back to the vibrating square 14:17 lol jonadab 90% of the EPIs in slex are from YOU 14:18 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:18 amateurhour: Yes, but they were not intended to ever be implemented. 14:18 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 14:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 14:18 They were called _evil_ patch ideas for a reason. 14:18 haha 14:19 You underestimated Amy's evil, clearly 14:19 Oh bridge is up again, wonder why it died 14:19 I underestimated Amy's dumb. 14:19 irc: server freenode has been deleted 14:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:20 -!- stenno is now known as chris 14:22 @le?lend the taker 14:22 lend the taker (F) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 7 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon item steal | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible, vegan 14:22 jonadab: i died in slex once because i hit a specific monster three times 14:23 thats such bs 14:23 yeah there's no way to know beforehand I think? 14:23 NetSysFire: Everythign about slex is like that. 14:23 Yeah, it's an omega-obscure reference that you can't literally expect anyone to get 14:23 i noticed 14:23 amateurhour: yup 14:23 s/literally expect anyone/expect literally anyone 14:24 I think you're supposed to know about the huge ogre thief thing by hearing people complain about it in irc 14:24 haha 14:24 thank you for your continued efforts to save the next guy 14:24 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:10894 14:26 Theoretically there is also code-diving, but in the case of slex I think that might not be such a good idea. 14:26 You might see something you can't unsee. 14:26 I mean... 14:26 I could also just... 14:27 make the wiki page? 14:28 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry about my connection] 14:28 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:31 -!- ais523 is now known as callforjudgement 14:31 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 14:34 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: going to restart my IRC client to make sure it's configured correctly] 14:34 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 911 points, T:2654, killed by an invisible gnome lord 14:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Client Quit] 14:37 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:39 -!- Graznop has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3842 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a tengu, on T:3457 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 245 points, T:1103, killed by a djinni 14:43 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law), 39110 points, T:11229, killed by a minotaur 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4677 14:45 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1289, rt[0:21:56] 14:47 [hdf-eu] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Executioner, on T:59872 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:5946 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 268 points, T:436, killed by a coyote 14:51 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:56 [hdf-eu] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:60255, rt[15:46:28] 14:56 <@the_eternal_paradox> Registration for Junethack opens tomorrow :D 14:56 no it doesn't 14:56 moved to 30th 14:57 jnh is moved to next year, cancelled cause covid 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:7564 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7818 14:58 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4225, rt[0:34:43] 14:58 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4226, rt[0:34:49] 15:03 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2704 points, T:4828, killed by a kitten 15:05 <@bugsniper> yasi: Vegetarian carnivores. Tins of spinach meat should be a treat for them. 15:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a trapper, on T:17462 15:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 64203 points, T:17471, quit 15:08 lol 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Magician, on T:10966 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2475 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12776 15:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1795 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1264 points, T:1598, killed by a goblin 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:13763 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:33253 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4090 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Hea Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful warhorse, on T:33284 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 5242 points, T:4554, killed by a white unicorn 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33420 15:33 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2367 points, T:2901, killed by a hill orc, while praying 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 44465 points, T:16639, killed by a zruty 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20047 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 215718 points, T:33449, drowned in a pool of water by an electric eel 15:37 [hdf-us] [gh] Nicolau (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1119 points, T:2062, killed by a wolf 15:38 Oh man, RIP 15:39 !lastgame desertgreg 15:39 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/desertgreg/nethack/dumplog/1621644204.nh.html 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh13d] Nicolau (Wiz Mal), 50 points, T:26, leprechaun 15:43 -!- wishstudio has joined #hardfought 15:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed Wallet of Perseus", on T:33867 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 923 points, T:4539, killed by a manes, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 15:44 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:75758 15:48 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Cthulhu, on T:75804 15:49 -!- Amyflueschlie has joined #hardfought 15:50 jonadab what the hell? why is it supposedly "dumb" to implement EPIs? do you want to force me to say what I think of the game over that spawns when you split a fourk pudding? :P 15:52 lol which gameover with a pudding? 15:52 blood pudding 15:52 you need a really tough character to survive an attack of one reliably 15:52 in nethack fourk, if you hit a pudding even once, a game over spawns, which is a level 25 monster that kills you 15:54 since jonadab called me "dumb" just because I implemented EPIs, I'm tempted to say what I think of the game over :P 15:56 wot 15:56 hot take: implementing EPIs is dumb, blood puddings spawning for non-excessive farming is also dumb 15:56 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76002 15:56 hot take: im really hot right now its really humid :( 15:57 I still like NH4's pudding farming fixes (i.e. count the exact number of pudding splits so that people can make up their own mind about how many is shameful, and make pudding farming slightly harder to script) 15:57 also NetSysFire: ghosts in slex don't necessarily indicate a bones file, they can be taken from a list of names that includes (former) slex players 15:58 making puddings not drop items would be a more severe "fix" if you feel that one is needed 15:58 this tends to confuse players who are used to vanilla, where the preset ghost names are restricted to weird names like nick danger 15:58 the real punishment for pudding farmers is pudding farming imo 15:58 (really, the aim is for nobody to ever feel like pudding farming is the best way to achieve whatever goal they were trying to achieve, unless that goal involves puddings specifically) 15:59 i really hate the 1 billion turn limit that got added to 3.7 15:59 it's so against the spirit of nethack 16:00 if puddings still drop corpses, they can still be farmed with an altar, just not for death drops (yeah I know 3.6 changed that part too) 16:00 just to make sure: Amyflueschlie: are you the developer of slex, or a different Amy? I don't know everyone's nicks over here yet 16:00 only amy would be that bitchy about dumb shit 16:00 Amy's using the same name 16:00 ais523: real Amy :D 16:00 just also using this one 16:00 alright gtg 16:01 -!- Amyflueschlie has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:01 Demo: I sort-of agree, but the alternative is to implement a bignum turn counter, and that would touch way too much code 16:01 that wasn't why it was implemented 16:01 the turn counter has been able to hit the 64 bit unsigned limit since nao changed it or early 3.6 16:02 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/2a10b3003d045345f8d0e1b3479f5025d4891693 16:02 oh hmm maybe it was, i swear it was already an unsigned 64 bit integer 16:03 NetHack runs on platforms that don't *have* native 64-bit integers 16:03 really? 16:03 any C99 compiler should be able to simulate them, but NetHack doesn't want to assume that 16:03 those platforms must suck 16:03 the most obvious is Windows 32-bit / Linux 32-bit 16:03 damn 16:03 isn't there a pretty standard work around for that on those platforms though? 16:03 where the CPU is normally capable of doing 64-bit math, but the OS doesn't have the relevant support to put it into that mode 16:04 yes, a C99 compiler will be able to generate the code to do the carries manually if you write "long long int" 16:04 in dgamelaunch code where is the part that is run when a game is win ? 16:04 I mean just after 16:04 this is so sad 16:05 compilers have been able to do that pretty much forever, for a long time they did it to simulate 32-bit ints on 16-bit platforms 16:05 and there are probably compilers that simulate 16-bit ints on 8-bit platforms (I know doing 16-bit arithmetic is very common on 8-bit platforms but I'm not sure if the compilers of the time typically had built-in support; I know I've done it manually) 16:06 just assume that any c99 compiler can simulate them 16:06 and then boom, zero reason for a very un-nethack hard turn limit 16:06 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 16:07 i used a 32 bit linux system daily for like 4 months last year, and guess what, I had a modern compiler that can do modern things and I could compile ANY nethack variants I wanted 16:11 <@bugsniper> @?blood pudding 16:11 blood pudding ~3~ brown pudding (P) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 3 | Res: cold shock poison acid petrification | Confers: cold shock poison | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Attacks: 0d0 bite rot | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, amorphous, breathless, mindless, vegetarian 16:12 <@bugsniper> @sp?blood pudding 16:12 @4k?blood pudding 16:12 blood pudding (P) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 16 | Res: cold shock poison acid petrification drain | Confers: cold shock poison | MR: 75 | Generates: special | AC: -10 | Attacks: 3d8 bite level drain, 0d0 passive level drain | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, amorphous, breathless, mindless, regenerates, nopoly, undead 16:12 <@bugsniper> thanks 16:12 when u hit them they split into more and they have a lot of hp and are zippy 16:13 <@bugsniper> what about if you use elbereth? 16:13 idk if that works in 4k how you'd expect 16:13 I have a really good strategy for avoiding blood puddings which has yet to fail me though 16:14 <@bugsniper> is it to not see them in the first place? 16:14 my strategy is not getting them at all 16:14 100% effective 16:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] pincushion (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 16:14 really don't get how a turn limit is un-nethack 16:14 (or UnNetHack) 16:14 <@bugsniper> as in no pudding farming and killing them all with spells and wooden weapons 16:15 <@bugsniper> and artifacts and rustproof 16:15 no, not playing the game they are in 16:16 it has yet to fail me 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:24807 16:16 <@bugsniper> btw are there other puddings you can get that way on Alex? 16:17 <@bugsniper> *in slex 16:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:17 -!- rebatela_ has joined #hardfought 16:18 on Alex 16:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 917 points, T:1526, killed by a badly wounded dwarf 16:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed stethoscope", on T:34152 16:22 Engrave-test wand, it's speed monster. Zap pet. "You feel like a hypocrite!" 16:22 how many times must I do this before I learn? 16:22 maybe it's a bug that speeding pets/peacefuls angers them 16:23 the test in the code is just "you can't do anything that would anger a monster" 16:23 I think zapping a wand at a monster counts as an attack, whether the effect is harmful or beneficial is not considered 16:23 Yeah that's annoying but I kinda get it 16:24 that said, I'm thinking about the real life version of this now 16:24 run in by the Yendorian watch for "altering the speed of a sentient being without their consent" 16:24 you're going about your own business in the road, and someone shoots a magical beam at you that makes you move faster 16:24 that'd be pretty concerning, right? even if it's a beneficial effect, it's hard to explain why they did it and unclear why the whole incident happens, and raises a lot of questions 16:24 * happened 16:26 so they go "what the shit m8" and pummel you to death with a pick-axe 16:26 as perfectly reasonable people do 16:29 Can't say I've ever had a bad reaction speeding up my pets with a zap from a wand. 16:29 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry about my connection] 16:29 Well not from pets no 16:29 But as explained above 16:29 It's wonky to be sure 16:30 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 16:30 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 16:31 is there a special room type in xnethack that has all 3 altars? 16:31 a themed room (from vanilla) 16:31 Yep 16:31 ah ok, thought it would be quite the feat of random generation if it wasn't 16:32 akshually that room originally comes from unnethack 16:32 yes but xnethack got it from vanilla 16:32 you will see that room in vanilla 16:32 ok, ok 16:32 yeah 16:32 unnethack probs inspired by that ekumene crawl room 16:34 i just have to take any opportunity to say 'actually thats from unnethack' 16:37 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77105 16:38 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fireproof bag of holding", on T:22997, rt[3:15:24] 16:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] pincushion (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 2245 points, T:2187, killed by an uninjured invisible Mordor orc 16:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:34420 16:41 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11051 16:45 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry about my connection] 16:45 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:13384 16:46 and a trophy tin, check. 16:46 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 16:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:23613, rt[3:25:47] 16:49 [hdf-us] [4k] Nabru (nabru) (Bar Dwa Fem Law) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1615 16:49 Hm, wonder if his two-handed sword comes with any particular properties 16:50 since he technically runs a throne room 16:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1986 16:53 Magicbane on dlevel3, not bad 16:54 anyone done any poggers ascensions lately 16:54 not lately 16:54 f 16:55 cant waste energy ascending 16:55 jnh is soon 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:26242 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26243 17:00 [hdf-us] [4k] Nabru (nabru) (Bar Dwa Fem Law), 8742 points, T:2366, killed by a giant spider 17:02 Stella: I'm still trying to figure out what "pog"/"poggers" actually means in common usage, Urban Dictionary seems to be unsure how it's used in practice and just goes into the etymology 17:03 derived from PogChamp, generally an exclamation of joy/approval 17:03 yes, the problem is that the meaning seems to have drifted somewhat 17:03 and I'm not sure where 17:04 poggers means poggers 17:04 and pog means "well done!" 17:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Dagon, on T:34730 17:05 poggers kind of also means the same but it's slightly different in a subtle and nuanced way that i don't entirely understand 17:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:05 poggers means like 'whoa' 17:05 wait 17:05 poggers can also be used as adjective 17:05 mostly positive 17:05 like i just did just then 17:05 "poggers run" 17:05 you can't really say "pog run" 17:05 but you can say "pog" in response to a poggers run 17:06 'whoa cool' 17:06 like that 17:06 ye 17:06 its something they use on the internet to make ur brain dumber 17:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3082 17:06 yes, "pog" as an exclamation is fairly well established at this point I think 17:06 i blame twitch for all of this 17:06 ais523: its a feeling expressed by this emoji https://blog.cdn.own3d.tv/resize=fit:crop,height:400,width:600/pKwIyI8RyGtPW35ZFg2m 17:06 but i'm not really complaining 17:06 i enjoy saying pog poggers poggery pogchamp 17:07 of course its twitches fault because those are twitch emojis lol 17:07 twitch ruined the internet 17:07 well pog and poggers are bttv 17:07 no 17:07 well, I don't think Twitch had much control over what happened to their emojis 17:07 ais523: you lie 17:07 it's all their fault 17:07 you can't just place the blame on the general public like that 17:07 I remember reading an interview with the person whose face was used when you wrote "Kappa", I don't think they predicted how that was going to go at all 17:07 haha 17:07 and "Frankerz" isn't even meant to have a capital Z, apparently 17:07 that must feel weird to be that guy 17:08 it is 17:08 the emoji has a capital Z 17:08 oh wait i misunderstood 17:08 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 17:08 like, "Frankerz" (pronounced as two syllables) is the actual name of the dog which was photographed for the emote 17:08 Kappa emote was the first real twitch meme 17:09 Yep 17:09 but Twitch emotes weren't documented, and the version with the capital Z is the one that spread 17:09 oh huh 17:09 that's funny 17:09 (no idea how anyone found it in the first place, you can at least imagine someone using Kappa by accident) 17:09 just used to spam Kappa while listening to the Kappa song or radio kappa on forsen drunk hearthstone stream in 2014 17:10 good times 17:10 'wheres mah auctioneer' and stuff 17:10 cancer music 17:10 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 17:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNwqlLqHkuc 17:10 I think the reason Kappa caught on is that it expresses a meaning that there isn't any punctuation for in English or indeed most languages, but is nonetheless important 17:11 Well Met 17:11 its like the smile of mona lisa 17:11 there have been various attempts to invent punctuation marks for sarcasm (none of which caught on), but a Kappa isn't quite the same 17:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] willspoke (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed ThatBenGuy's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1468 17:11 although ⸮ got added to Unicode I don't think anyone actually uses it 17:12 that doesn't display for me 17:12 …that may be good evidence that nobody uses it :-D 17:12 it displays for me 17:12 can't see shit cap'n 17:13 if it were widely used it would probably actually work 17:13 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:13 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 17:13 https://0x0.st/-2-G.png 17:15 Oh, backwards '?' 17:15 yep 17:16 I think that would be annoyingly complex to write with handwriting 17:16 it'd take some getting used to reversing the hand movement for a question mark 17:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:4158 17:16 but only on one axis 17:16 man old twitch was awesome 17:16 I mean not really 17:17 [hdf-us] [fh] Lara Croft (bmx007) (Arc Hum Fem Law), 26607 points, T:2279, killed by an imp 17:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4214 17:17 in germany there was a new word introduced for the feeling of not being thirsty anymore ('sitt' as opposed to not being hungry anymore, 'satt') 17:18 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/847222204550742136/20210526_181818.jpg 17:18 only time it gets used is when saying "wow, 'sitt' never really caught on" 17:18 tried to handwrite a reverse ? 17:19 life pro trip: if you want to write in reverse, use your non-writing hand 17:20 write normally with your writing hand and write reverse with your non-writing hand at the same time 17:20 it works surprisingly well 17:21 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:26385, rt[3:58:22] 17:21 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26388, rt[3:58:43] 17:22 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1777, rt[0:11:19] 17:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Quicksilver", on T:34886 17:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] wintergalaxy88 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha) completed Lokoban, on T:6203 17:25 -!- mariari has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.1] 17:25 does an amulet of unchanging cure lycanthropy, or does it just keep you from changing forms while wearing it? 17:25 Latter 17:25 -!- mariari has joined #hardfought 17:26 Unchanging doesn't cure anything, it just modelocks you 17:26 hm, wondering if I should waste a prayer on curing it, or just hope my glass amulet doesn't get shattered somehow 17:26 why would you ever want to cure it? intrinsic drain resistance baybeeee 17:26 presumably to free up the amulet slot 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 533 points, T:600, killed herself by breaking a wand 17:27 If lawful there's Excal anyway 17:27 assuming vanilla 17:27 although it's probably reasonable to delay curing it until you have a cheap cure (holy water is a common cheap cure) 17:28 Ye 17:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3085, rt[0:18:06] 17:29 Unchanging can hold that slot for quite a while until you need like, flight or life saving 17:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4997 17:29 (or reflection) 17:29 getting used to diff kbd layout 17:29 is making me slow > 17:29 :< 17:30 that can take a year or so sometimes, but I find I normally get used to the new layout in the end 17:30 laptop keyboards have an annoying tendency to change the placement of home/end/pgup/pgdn, so it's taken me a while to adapt to that on several occasions 17:30 (and occasionally a Ctrl/Fn swap) 17:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] willspoke (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2603 17:30 -!- entuland has joined #hardfought 17:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 82 points, T:303, killed by a dart 17:30 entuland: o7 17:30 also, about 3 jobs ago, my computer had an azerty keyboard for some reason 17:31 hey there everyone 17:31 sometimes I used it as azerty, but more commonly I used it as qwerty and just ignored the keycaps 17:31 hi entuland 17:31 My ex used to use Dvorak on QWERTY keycaps, which is a really good way to stop other people using your computer 17:31 entuland: i wanted to say that nethack can be very rewarding, but it will take a lot of time (months) to get into it, and even only then you need to read spoilers a lot 17:32 Ohey 17:32 Nice to have you there 17:32 it can be rewarding even without the spoilers, just not particularly winnable 17:32 but it's 100% worth it 17:32 yep, I started having a look at a tutorial video to get a feeling 17:32 still scary :P 17:32 although it's worth having someone to teach you the controls 17:32 it gets better as you learn it, entuland 17:32 the part that scares me the most is the decision making of the RPG 17:32 there is something there that kills me 17:32 it is considered by some (me included) to not really be winnable with spoilers 17:32 you mean RNG? 17:33 er without* 17:33 not really winn- 17:33 aha yeah 17:33 no, the RPG, the fact of deciding what to level up, even just picking a type at the beginning 17:33 I mean it could be but good fucking luck 17:33 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vorpal jabberwock, on T:15038 17:33 nethack without spoilers would require you to play a lot of games and, even then, there are some things you can't really figure on your own 17:33 aah right 17:33 [hdf-us] [ndnh] wintergalaxy88 (Mon Hlf Fem Cha), 38690 points, T:7996, quit 17:33 I don't think I'd figure e.g. the invocation ritual without spoilers 17:33 Decision making is the essence of video games 17:33 nabru: everything required to win is supposed to be clued 17:33 oh, deciding what to level up isn't really a concern for most of the roles I would wager 17:34 the important things are clued multiple times 17:34 Isn't the invocation ritual a major oracularity? 17:34 since most of them have you controlling something what lives and dies on the decisions you make 17:34 oh yeah? where's the invocation clued, random oracle lines? 17:34 ah, I see 17:34 Pinkbeast: Think so 17:34 yes 17:34 there's the major oracle conslutations 17:34 but the oracle has them in the wrong order 17:34 the Invocation ritual, in particular, has one very clear clue that every unspoiled player will almost certainly encounter before they get anywhere near the endgame 17:34 Oracle is supposed to be your main source of unspoiled info 17:34 no new players can really afford those 17:34 well, if you're good enough to reach, say, Quest depth 17:34 some new players don't even know they can #chat 17:34 if you follow the hint of the oracle you will not be able to perform the invocation 17:35 you're good enough to grind enough gold and get there 17:35 ^ 17:35 But yeah that requires you to stick with it 17:35 what about the bot reporting deaths in the other channel? is it something that the game automatically sends to the internet to some server or the alike? 17:35 these are people playing on public servers 17:36 entuland: the game records the deaths in a file called xlogfile 17:36 there are bots available that read the xlogfile and broadcast the deaths on IRC 17:36 in the other channel you see deaths from the server NAO, in this channel you see deaths from hardfought 17:36 oh I see 17:36 Hardfought livelogs other things as well, though 17:36 so deaths won't get broadcast unless someone sets a bot like that up, but most of the really big NetHack servers will be running a deathbot 17:37 in theory you could set up a bot for your own computer but I doubt anyone would care 17:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1033 17:37 see? 17:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:35083 17:37 it logs other stuff 17:37 beyond deaths and ascensions 17:38 so that would be automatic if I install from this and connect to one of such servers, or is it a different client? 17:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] willspoke (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4222 points, T:3000, killed by a dingo, while reading a book 17:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1218 points, T:1085, killed by a wand 17:38 entuland: nope, you use ssh to connect to a server 17:38 i thought about having a bot log stuff to #nethackscoreboard (as if we didm't already have enough irc bots logging nethack game data to channels) 17:38 oh nice 17:38 if you play on a server, you don't need NetHack itself at all, because it's running on the server not on your computer 17:38 entuland: TL;DR: ssh to hardfought.org, create an account there, then you can play 17:39 you just need a remote-access program like ssh or telnet 17:39 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/ 17:39 PuTTY >>>>>>> 17:39 could be ascensions only from all servers tho, and/or log when someone beats wr for a given category 17:39 yeah I have putty 17:39 I can toss you my config 17:39 logging deaths would be daft 17:39 Gimme a while though, in the middle of a buncha shit 17:40 I may give it a go these days, for the well being of my sleep schedule it's probably better that I don't start at 20' to midnight :P 17:40 so definitely no rush eheheh 17:40 Of course not! 17:40 your character will probably be dead within 20 minutes, though :-D 17:40 oh I know myself way too well, that would likely only help hook me up even worse :P 17:41 "You feel more confident in your fighting skills. - unarmed combat" 17:41 to think this whole time I haven't been wielding my weapon 17:41 lol 17:42 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1484, rt[0:05:04] 17:42 weaponless conduct preserved? :D 17:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:5544 17:42 I kinda want to do a weaponless samurai like a really scuffed monk 17:44 one thing that made me giggle at the beginning of the tutorial video I was looking at earlier was the "Tourist" role, now I'm quite curious about those skills and I'm biting my fingers not to google stuff up :P 17:45 do you know the terry pratchett discworld books? 17:45 nope, haven't read those 17:45 Because if you do, it's basically that 17:45 It's the Magikarp class 17:45 (and, incidentally, my first ascended role in any form) 17:45 they start with a camera and a hawaiian shirt 17:45 and a credit card i think? 17:46 that somewhat sounds like they're not as clueless as the name seems to give away 17:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5756 17:46 all the classes are winnable 17:46 noice 17:46 but some are better early-game and some are better late-game 17:47 generally speaking, the early game is harder so most players recommend the early-game-focused classes (apart from that one class which is *too* early-game focused) 17:47 ranger? 17:47 monk? 17:47 monk 17:47 ranger is overall quite easy, juts tedious 17:47 ranger scales very poorly in mid-to-late 17:48 ranger is fucking cool mate 17:48 didn't say it wasn't cool 17:48 ok but i mean 17:48 after all elf ranger is for pros 17:48 just get stormy when you run out of arrows 17:48 admittedly my best ranger game died in Gehennom of all places 17:48 which is one argument for it tailing off 17:48 Ranger is so boring 17:48 and bonk everything 17:48 ranger earlygame is fantastic 17:48 no it is boring 17:48 bonk everything> !gosh! 17:48 but relying on arrows for the whole game sucks 17:48 there is a very slight chance that your elf ranger will start with poisoned arrows 17:48 relying on arrows in any period is boring 17:48 the guy making the tutorial video ate a corpse _while_ describing the consequences of food poisoning, I guess my first try will be with the barbarian :P 17:48 Pinkbeast: i'll bonk you if you're not careful >:[ 17:49 Imagine running out of arrows in NetHack 17:49 Best offer I've had all day :-) 17:49 entuland: good starter choice 17:49 rofl 17:49 barbarian is a fine first choice 17:49 entuland: Barbarian, Samurai, Valkyire are the noob roles of choice 17:49 And Caveman to a lesser extent 17:49 * entuland is a pro at noobing :) 17:49 to a much lesser 17:49 food poisoning used to be one of the biggest newbie traps in NetHack because the game was very bad at disclosing how it worked 17:50 so I added a big unmissable spoiler to it in one of the more recent versions, and it's less of a problem for unspoiled players nowadays (the second time) 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 554881 points, T:59769, petrified by Medusa 17:50 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:50 lol 17:50 odd, the video I was watching seemed quite fresh and I didn't see any mention of the corpse being rotten or the alike 17:50 ...aw damn 17:51 entuland: That was just the timing of the explanation 17:51 as a tutorial video i recommend Tones videos 17:51 well probably the video didn't actually get food poisoning, was just warning you on how to avoid it 17:51 Eating a corpse while explaining circumstances under which some corpses can be unsafe 17:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 17:52 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3503, rt[0:15:20] 17:52 !lastgame dbanethacker 17:52 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1621459145.evil.html 17:52 oh no he definitely didn't do that on purpose, he saw the message about the poisoning or something and was like "oh that was rotten, didn't see that, must have been a zombie, luckily I have the barbarian" or the alike 17:52 probably we just both missed a message on the screen 17:52 Ah, zombie corpses are never fresh 17:52 IIRC barbarians aren't immune to food poisoning anyway, just eating poisonous food 17:53 …NetHack really needs to stop giving almost identical names to two entirely different mechanics 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:6995 17:53 !rng ircbot xlogparser nethack other 17:53 Stella: nethack 17:53 Remember the good old days of "the black dragon breathes death!", meaning disintegration? 17:53 I'll have a look at Tones' videos, maybe that was just a bad tutorial, cause he definitely stated being immune to eating rotten corpses 17:54 even rotten means different things 17:54 maybe he was an orc? 17:54 there is a lot of misinformation about NetHack floating around 17:54 also that 17:54 i think they still have that if you try to go for reflectionless conduct 17:54 chris: I don't think orcs are immune to foodpois either 17:54 Pinkbeast: ^ 17:54 he was a barbarian for sure 17:54 there is a difference between "Blechh, rotten food!" and "Ugh, that food was tainted..." 17:54 um yea i think barbs and orcs still can get food poisoning 17:54 ^ 17:54 can't they? 17:54 to both 17:54 one of those is ignorable and the other is death 17:54 Stella: nah, the message changed in, ooh, 3.2, 3.3 ? 17:54 Barbarians only have poison immunity 17:54 yeah rotten food doesn't do shit 17:55 Pinkbeast: o 17:55 ohhh i didn't even read your prior message properly 17:55 The rotten food message is completely different from "tainted" rotten 17:55 entuland: talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96N5yxZJTtY 17:55 missed the 'breathes *death*' bit entirely 17:55 let's see, "Blecch" just happens at random and is mostly a mechanic to make it harder to eat in combat 17:55 Which is honestly something that should've been fixed by now 17:55 also ye 17:55 deathray and disint were once the same too, is that right? 17:55 "Ulch" is for corpses that are too old and is fatal pretty quickly 17:55 i have a feeling 17:55 but idk 17:55 uhm... so even if I don't pick barbarian I can't get food poisoning from rotten corpses with any role now? 17:55 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3963, rt[0:19:02] 17:56 and I can't even remember the message for eating poisonous food and losing strength as a result 17:56 ouch i lost 20 minutes on this run to idling 17:56 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6067 points, T:3993, [0:45:14], quit 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4123 17:56 Ecch 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7435 17:56 entuland: there are three different mechanics with similar flavours; the main thing about avoiding food poisoning is to not eat a corpse that died too long ago 17:56 entuland: you will get food poisoning after at least 50 turns 17:56 you really don't want to eat corpses from monsters you didn't kill by yourself 17:56 As in "Ecch - that must have been poisonous" 17:56 Umbire: right 17:56 Blecch, Ecch, and Ulch 17:56 okay 17:57 if you haven't seen it dying, then don't eat it. if you killed it, and it's not a zombie, it won't make you deathly sick 17:57 through there might be other effects 17:57 *though 17:57 Also, note that your starting pet is typically carnivorous and will eat any corpse that doesn't harm it to do so 17:57 I guess I'll learn which ones are the deadly messages after smashing my face on them a few times :P 17:57 it is very rare for an experienced player to get foodpois because they know to eat corpses immediately or not at all 17:57 (at least until 3.7) 17:57 what changed in 3.7? 17:57 And after you get far enough curing food poisoning is trivial 17:57 Blecch is only a very short-term issue, Ecch is semipermanent, Ulch is fatal 17:57 (unless cured) 17:57 honestly you might get information overload from asking too many questions before actually playing :P 17:57 Hekik: Oh pets have actual sane handling for nutrition now 17:58 and don't just eat everything ever 17:58 oh I see 17:58 you will quickly get the hang of it while playing 17:58 yeah, I'm going to control myself and not get myself too spoiled ahead of time :P 17:58 after a few YASDs :P 17:58 amateurhour: agreed 17:58 rats, must be hard to deal with trolls then 17:58 this does mean getting used to dying a lot 17:58 Not too hard 17:58 after a while you get jaded 17:58 and losing a char doesn't matter 17:58 Depends how much you stuff yourself normally 17:58 I guess I'm in for some Darwin Awards ahahahah 17:59 haha 17:59 mind you some invest a lot more care per character than others and actually have good asc ratios 17:59 ^ 17:59 i am not one of those persons 17:59 * chris neither 17:59 yeah some people can ascend suspiciously consistently 17:59 i ascend a lot but also need a lot of attempts 17:59 * amateurhour looks at mobileuser 17:59 Your first set of deaths aren't even gonna be the "stupid" kind 17:59 in fact i scum so much that my ascension ratio is effectively infinitesimal 17:59 to a good approximation 17:59 I play riskily on purpose because I find it more fun, and often end up dying in interesting rather than stupid ways 17:59 !streak mobileuser 17:59 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 89309 points, T:17981, killed by an elven lord 17:59 chris: [hdf-eu] mobileuser Max[nh370]: 6 (2019-12-21 - 2020-02-13). Current[evil]: 3 (since 2021-04-10). 18:00 YASD is a thing because the more you learn the more you realize almost every death is technically avoidable 18:00 or ways that are both stupid and interesting at the same time 18:00 3-streak of evilhack, not bad 18:00 i can't remember if my best ever streak was 2-streak or 3-streak 18:00 but if it's 3 it only happened once by sheer fluke 18:00 mine was 5 during last tnnt 18:00 and if it's 2 it happened maybe 2 times 18:00 it's all about the asc% stenno 18:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Kostchtchie, on T:35260 18:00 I think I might have 2-streaked once, not sure 18:00 idc about asc% 18:00 but like 18:00 that may be out of necessity 18:00 good asc% is the coolest 18:00 I meant my comment regarding people suspiciously consistent 18:01 because if I cared about mine I would probably leave the community 18:01 shamed eternally 18:01 streaks aren't the whole story for that I mean 18:01 by my infinitesimally small asc ratio 18:01 or i'll continue to be a degenerate and script startscumming for first room wows on NAO 18:01 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 18:01 kind of disappointed I didn't get a funny message applying a stethoscope while hallucinating 18:01 and then splat absurd games with double early wow 18:01 like a fool 18:02 if I get an early /oW, I will probably play too recklessly 18:02 im a bit stalty at myself for fucking that up 18:02 "I have AC -30, I'm indestructible!" 18:02 I'm not really a fan of startscumming, it feels like a shortcoming in the game that it could ever be the right thing to do 18:02 'cept NOT 18:02 although, my attempts to fix this in AceHack were *really* unpopular 18:02 nabru: i was scumming for first-room wows with script on various nao alts 18:02 and then i wanted to use them up before june 18:02 so i played some out 18:02 and oen of them hit second wow on dl2 18:03 [hdf-us] [slth] dna (Ele Clk Fem Neu), 8251 points, T:2598, quit 18:03 and then i was careless and died to a mino between medusa and castle 18:03 lmao 18:03 coulda probably beat BilldaCat's 36 wr if I'd played more smart 18:03 Granted it's not so much "the right thing" so much as it is "a popular thing" 18:04 Any char is ascendable if you're patient enough 18:04 ais523: i liked it 18:04 > every game is winnable 18:04 Umbire: I think certain conduct games do need to startscum for something (usually polymorph) 18:04 yeah I think every game *is* winnable if you play carefully and take your time 18:04 walk into mines 18:04 zapped with wand of death 18:04 ais523: any serious attempt at tc requires heavy scumming 18:04 or fire horn 18:04 it is just the nature of it 18:04 or step on a trapdoor get shafted to medusa 18:04 almost all games are winnable, then 18:05 Which sucks but ye ais523 18:05 my best evilhack streak is 4 btw 18:05 yes, tariru hasdemonstrated that 18:05 I want dnh tc this jnh but I'm too lazy 18:05 it's good that zen and other stuff got added as toggleable options 18:05 amateurhour: ok true, you can get outrageously haxxed 18:05 Tariru never left btw they just changed nick to mobileuser 18:05 _almost_ any game is winnable 18:05 ^ 18:05 unavoidable deaths are incredibly rare 18:05 poison instadeath is one of the reasons not every game is winnable 18:05 there exist a game X such that it is not winnable 18:05 but yeah as ais523 says, unavoidable death is relatively rare 18:06 but you might just suffer a poison insteadeath from falling into a pit or getting bitten by a snake 18:06 *instadeath 18:06 if you play carefully enough, even poison instant death can be risk-managed pretty well 18:06 you can avoid falling into pits 18:06 ^ 18:06 avoid any monsters with poison arrows or poison attacks 18:06 but still you cannot avoid walking into a gwtwod 18:06 there are ways to deal with 18:06 chris: ye 18:06 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3671 points, T:4284, burned by molten lava 18:06 don't visit mines til you have mr :b 18:06 (as if anybody is doing that tho) 18:06 well, reflection also works 18:06 you can hit a gwtwod outside the mines, its probably just not a gnome then 18:06 mr harder to get 18:06 Wizards? 18:07 wizard is the one role that starts with mr 18:07 everyone else is fucked 18:07 unless you play with bones and find a wizbones 18:07 Pinkbeast: any elemental attack wand will kill early game characters 18:07 Yep yep yep 18:07 reflection protects you from all of these but you need to do soko for a shot at "oR 18:07 can easily get haxxed before then 18:07 Even that's still possible to avoid if you avoid line of sight 18:07 yeah 18:07 fwiw, I believe that assuming you have pickup_types set, all games have a sequence of inputs that beat them, but on rare occasions it may be impossible to predict what it is without being able to reverse-engineer the RNG 18:07 chris: Yeah, just being pedantic; I think it's pretty clear you _can_ just lose, but from streaks, it doesn't happen as often as one might think 18:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:08 Pinkbeast: aye 18:08 sure 18:08 Yeah, the scariest stuff is usually the most uncommon 18:08 conservative play for streaks doesn't come naturally to me at all 18:08 ah, curse word 18:08 conservative? 18:09 oh 18:09 n/m 18:09 not eloping to medusa's island with the first succubus you meet 18:09 etc 18:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] Hekik (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 7410 points, T:7019, killed by a magic missile 18:09 lmao another recruiter email 18:09 going to meduda's island with a foocubi will make you rock-hard 18:09 my own magic missile, I might add 18:09 soon as I get a job I start gettig lodas of these 18:09 rofl 18:09 :I 18:10 -!- Kougyoku has joined #hardfought 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:9752 18:10 entuland: as you can see we are very passionate about nethack :P 18:10 a while ago I read something alike "When you're single, nobody notices you. When you're dating someone, everybody notices you" 18:10 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:10 natural job search result 18:10 nobody wants to give you a job when you're unemployed, but recruiters fall for you when you're employed 18:11 you kicked off a job search, got an offer, but your name is percolating around out there 18:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed the creature in the ice, on T:35429 18:11 https://external-preview.redd.it/xH2L8kFFq0JIZw0VLUnDjk0Ee9wVPts2H1VSOYABWHQ.jpg?auto=webp&s=714a91e2c23c80504f6566841b7b350edad843e4 18:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Levistus, on T:35487 18:12 i mean the recruiters don't know i employed yet 18:13 cuz i haven't put this fact on any onlie profiles yet 18:13 aosdict: yea tru 18:15 eheheh 18:16 I noticed, chris 18:16 as nethack is a really old game, you have players playing it for 30+ years 18:16 aye 18:16 best replay value in the industry :P 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 magicbane", on T:4460 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4462 18:21 [hdf-eu] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 rustproof gauntlets of power", on T:61296 18:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4021 18:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an ice troll, on T:4336 18:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:4489 18:29 -!- entuland has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 17591 points, T:5460, killed by an owlbear 18:32 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Pri Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3553 18:34 !who 18:34 K2: [hdf-eu] davez [un] | [hdf-us] twiggets [nh370] mung [nh370] tsingi [nh370] ThatBenGuy [nh370] KrO2 [dnh] MaxLunar [slex] Ardub [xnh] Zindorsky [xnh] bouquet [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 18:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5138 18:37 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10977 18:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide elven toga", on T:35675 18:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 3922 points, T:5043, killed by a leocrotta 18:43 [hdf-eu] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided arch-liches, on T:62110, rt[17:07:29] 18:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:42834 18:43 [hdf-eu] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided liches, on T:62112, rt[17:07:49] 18:44 [hdf-eu] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided demiliches, on T:62113, rt[17:08:12] 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2539 18:45 -!- Kougyoku_ has joined #hardfought 18:49 -!- Kougyoku has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:49 -!- Kougyoku__ has joined #hardfought 18:50 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3154 18:53 -!- Kougyoku_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 18:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] xor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1302 19:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6382 19:01 -!- Kougyoku__ is now known as Kougyoku 19:03 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] xor (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2056 points, T:1725, killed by an uninjured orc-captain 19:03 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:03 @Shadow_Rider stop practicing goddammit 19:04 what if i lose D: 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:12099 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:12188 19:08 -!- misha has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:08 -!- misha has joined #hardfought 19:09 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2463, rt[0:05:54] 19:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:10 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3081, rt[0:07:04] 19:11 -!- Kougyoku has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] xor (Con Sym Mal Cha), 100 points, T:226, crunched in the head by an iron ball 19:13 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4021, rt[0:10:10] 19:15 -!- Stella is now known as Rust 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 154 points, T:2299, killed by a dwarf 19:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:35698 19:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:35741 19:29 [hdf-us] [seed] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 20336 points, T:7342, rt[0:25:28], wc[0:25:45], killed by a stone golem 19:29 Ow 19:29 Haven't seen one of those in a while, much less have one kill a char 19:29 <@Shadow_Rider> i never have enough time to practice 19:30 <@Shadow_Rider> i kinda gave up cuz i have to leave soon 19:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:35760 19:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed the Avatar of Lolth, on T:35761 19:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43945 19:31 Aw 19:31 RIP 19:32 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Neu), 496533 points, T:23134, killed by a monster (invisible Conker Archon) 19:33 okay whateva 19:33 gonna wait for junethack then 19:33 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:33 >Conker Archon 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1392 19:34 sheesh, try picturin' that 19:34 more like Honker Archon 19:34 *honk* *honk* 19:35 if not that constant dimness I'd be able to survive 19:35 @le?Conker Archon 19:35 Conker Archon (A) | Lvl: 19 | Diff: 28 | Spd: 16 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: special | AC: -10 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 2d6 gaze blind, 1d8 claw physical, 4d6 touch spell | Alignment: 15 | Flags: flies, regenerates, seeinvis, stalker, infravisible 19:35 AC dropped from -32 to -8, feel that? 19:35 Nah I know what dimming is and how brutal it can be 19:35 I'm just trying to see if there was like, a dimming gaze or something 19:36 Probably just one of the melee-range spells 19:36 there was a fuckton of angels in lawful quest 19:36 "Conker Archon"? 19:36 i couldnt go back because I was in a tight spot with no square to even move before i try to jump on magic portal again 19:37 k gotta go sleep 19:38 sleep well 19:38 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:39 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 108 points, T:200, [0:00:40], killed by a fox 19:39 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1970 points, T:2375, killed by a quasit 19:40 -!- el_test has joined #hardfought 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 4409 points, T:5284, poisoned by a gnome zombie 19:43 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1562, rt[0:14:16] 19:43 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 496 points, T:958, [0:04:16], killed by a rothe 19:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10114 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:10147 19:46 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1346 points, T:1856, killed by a pony 19:48 <@nabru> !whereis mung 19:48 @nabru: [hdf-us] mung [nh370]: (Mon Hum Mal Neu) T:10176 The Gnomish Mines level: 10 19:50 !booze 19:50 * Beholder delivers nabru a barrel of the hard stuff, fermented by the /dev/null/oracle at 56 degrees Celsius. 19:50 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 19:50 -!- el_test has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:37, on T:44359 19:53 Might wanna change server info in nethack.alt.org 19:53 Fuck, just remembered 19:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44367 19:54 -!- hiddenvoid has joined #hardfought 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:27254 19:58 -!- rebatela_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:00 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2393, rt[0:15:33] 20:00 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2476 points, T:2440, [0:16:11], killed by a scroll of earth 20:02 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 20:02 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77433 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 320 points, T:1174, killed by a dwarf 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:73060 20:04 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 183 points, T:897, [0:01:51], killed by a kobold 20:04 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 20:06 -!- tsingi has joined #hardfought 20:07 K2, maybe put the address 'irc.libera.chat' in the message on the website. 20:08 Sorry to see the demise of freenode. :( 20:08 tsingi: becareful, freenode might take his website over if he does that :^) 20:08 heh 20:11 lmfao 20:11 hi tsingi 20:11 !pom 20:11 Rust: The moon is full for 3 more days. 20:12 hostile buyout by andrew lee 20:12 K2 can't say no to the millions of cold hard cash 20:12 Hi Umbire 20:12 think of it as "funding nethack development" 20:13 we've been assured there will be no operational changes of any sort associated with mr. lee's sale, this is all just paperwork needed to host HardfoughtCon 20:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] autolycus (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1495 points, T:1959, killed by a seriously wounded dingo 20:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:44601 20:14 Never screw with a wounded dingo mate. 20:14 if he funds NetHack, he might demand to appear in the game. 20:14 maybe have him replace Croesus as an NPC 20:15 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1568, rt[0:07:31] 20:15 pls 20:17 Why I logged in actually. My first gift as a wizard was Sting. WTF? Can MB already exist in a wiz game? 20:18 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2265, rt[0:10:24] 20:18 it shouldn't have generated randomly because athames don't but you might have wizard bones you didn't find 20:18 [hdf-us] [un] sadburger (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:2597, rt[0:11:22] 20:19 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1475 points, T:2320, [0:14:26], killed by an ape 20:19 Or bones in general 20:19 But possibly wizard specifically 20:19 I'll look for bones. 20:20 Weird though, I've explored all the mine levels and all the levels down to Sokoban, which is only half done (no bones in there anyway) 20:22 I've missed rooms on floors and not known it until like, 20k turns later 20:22 I have a pet MMFlayer. It's fun watching him suck the brains out of Rust Monsters. 20:23 Umbire, yeah, I'll finish soko for the food and go dig around. 20:24 MMF killed the minetown priest before I figured out how badass he was. 20:26 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1412394 points, T:77525, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Trenin/unnethack/dumplog/1621362600.un.txt.html 20:26 Geeg 20:28 -!- hiddenvoid has quit [Quit: I leaked. Bye.] 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] mung (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:12695 20:28 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:6311 20:32 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6351 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:25830 20:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed magic lamp", on T:44898 20:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the high poohbah of Crom, on T:44932 20:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:44939 20:40 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 83007 points, T:20337, killed by brainlessness 20:40 :| 20:40 rip Orcranger 20:40 !lastgame Orcranger 20:40 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/xnethack/dumplog/1612486124.xnh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/nethack/dumplog/1621982484.nh.html 20:41 grats to Trenin rip Orcranger 20:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] pincushion (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1262 points, T:1725, quit 20:44 tsingi - the NAO website was already updated to reflect the change to libera.chat 20:45 Ahh yes, it's on the right margin. Didn't see that. 20:46 Just read the post. 20:46 Polytrapped near a flayer 20:46 sucks 20:46 heh 20:46 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 20:48 i did just update the server info page in dgamelaunch a few min ago 20:48 (NAO) 20:49 it was still showing freenode 20:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:45510 20:51 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:00 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 21:00 o/ 21:01 * NCommander finally finished migrating himself 21:01 Awesome 21:02 \o 21:02 o/ \o 21:04 FreeNode staff seized #hardfought back on FreeNode 21:04 "Illegal Topic" 21:04 I've never seen something self-destruct *that* fast 21:04 yeah insane 21:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:46541 21:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on the Plane of Earth (for the 5th time), on T:46544 21:05 I wonder how many server operators made the move to libera 21:05 NCommander, I was just there too. Channel was marked invite only. 21:05 tsingi, I was still in there, I was just checking to see if any channels were left. 21:05 Literally compiling a list of projects now 21:06 I just deleted FreeNode out of my bouncer 21:06 -NickServ- Registered : Apr 12 18:00:31 2006 (15y 6w 6d ago) 21:06 at first i thought they were compromised 21:06 They were 21:06 Well ,they were 21:06 By Freenode 21:06 just not technically 21:07 I 'renamed' freenode to libera in my client, so it's totally gone. 21:07 Registered : Feb 14 22:31:48 2020 (1y 14w 4d ago) 21:07 Time to kill that account 21:07 I'm not willing to NickServ DROP 21:08 Mostly because I'm concerned someone will squat my handle 21:08 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- The account nabru has been dropped. 21:08 Ah, I understand 21:08 I read som of the 21:08 as I used it extensively for FOSS development work. 21:08 argh 21:08 I read some of the post on Github. I expect the user data migrated with the staff, at least I got the idea that was a concern. 21:09 I didn't get a complaint about my nic not being registered when I logged on here. 21:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:09 tsingi, I had to register mine 21:09 I just did it 21:10 odd 21:10 I don't think +r is set on this version of #hardfought like the old one 21:10 But FreeNode used to have fairly bad spam problems at times so +r was fairly common on any channel. 21:10 I give it a few weeks before the spambots migrate :/ 21:10 * tsingi sets mode +R on tsingi 21:10 * tsingi sets mode +Z on tsingi 21:10 * tsingi sets mode +i on tsingi <-- in logon messages 21:10 -NickServ- tsingi is not registered. 21:11 heh 21:11 damn 21:11 If they took the Freenode database, Freenode inc probably would sue 21:11 Better do that then, *sigh* 21:11 ABout half the projects I was in went to OFTC, the other half came here 21:12 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law), 9152 points, T:7180, killed by a wolf 21:12 #hardfought wasn't +r on freenode 21:12 K2, I thought it was 21:12 maybe for a brief moment here and there when the spam bots were bad 21:12 Might have been other channels, or Freenode applying the rule that if you were +r in one channel, you had to be registered to talk at all 21:12 but as a general rule, no 21:12 Freenode had some weird rules about that 21:13 we had to do it here within the first few hours 21:13 (that was usually annoying because I had to leave channels to do /nick if I got forced off NCommander due to bouncer restarting) 21:13 I'm just rather depressed about it 21:13 but the libera staff shut that shit down pretty quickly 21:13 so yay 21:13 I have a lot of memories of ##freenode-social, #ubuntu-loco-ny, etc. 21:13 :( 21:13 Obviously here and NAO as well 21:14 yeah its sad to see freenode wind up like this 21:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:14 it's sad to see freenode fall so hard 21:14 but, we're here. all is well 21:14 And hopefully we can get other projects on board as well 21:15 I know Ubuntu is migrating 21:15 Not sure if they finished it or not 21:15 Arch 21:15 Gentoo 21:15 Wikimedia 21:15 rhel? 21:15 was that the spelling... 21:15 Hold on, lemme consult the guy about that list 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Mars, on T:25119 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:25125 21:16 Umbire, a few of them have a lot of IRC based infrastructure that needs to be moved 21:16 NCommander, how did you register your nick? Can't find the command. 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:28418 21:16 But I honestly will be surprised if *anything* is left on Freenode by time all is said and done 21:17 tsingi, /msg nickserv register *password* *email* 21:17 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:17 tsingi: /msg nickserv register password e-mail 21:17 tks 21:17 <RazorsKiss> and doing it to channels like... ubuntu 21:17 <RazorsKiss> is terminally stupid 21:17 <Orca> #rhel 21:17 <Orca> #gentoo 21:17 <Orca> gg dipshits 21:17 <lu> #rust 21:18 So Gentoo, Atheme, FreeBSD 21:18 Alpine, Arch, RHEL, Ubunto, CentOS... 21:18 HexChat, NetHack, fucking Wikimedia 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 235 points, T:1730, killed by a giant bat 21:18 Most FOSS projects have a soul 21:18 -!- Gaelan has joined #hardfought 21:19 lykos moved on day 1, everything running on libera and off freenode before i even woke up that morning 21:20 and libera gave us a 'community' single-# for our game channel too \o/ 21:20 there we go, and I'm registered to an email address I actually have now. 21:20 much better. 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a concave amulet on an altar, on T:3238 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3244 21:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3685 21:29 misha: pog 21:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class U, on T:47074 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3869 21:30 misha, the #/## thing was always a weird Freenode-ism. 21:30 # is standard IRC, although you sometimes rarely saw % 21:31 it applies here too, they just tweaked a few of the rules about it 21:31 I'm not sure the latter is even in the standard anymore 21:31 (it was for a channel that was server specific vs. network wide) 21:31 this is basically freenode 2.0 21:31 misha which game channel? 21:31 Freernode 21:31 is werewolf on here now 21:31 K2: #werewolf 21:31 lol called it 21:31 https://libera.chat/chanreg 21:31 i have my app in for #hardfought 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4006 21:32 really dont want to be classified as ## 21:32 we actually code things here 21:32 Maybe you can get a fancy IRC mask 21:32 even if it's thing like putting bobble hats on d 21:32 I'm sad I lost ubuntu/member and debian/developer 21:32 i got me this fancy nethackscoreboard/ hostmask 21:33 cuz i was quick with the registrations 21:33 :3 21:33 or making Rodney tap-dance now and then 21:33 ubuntu's moving and can probably cloak you the same here as you had there if you want it 21:33 (eventually) 21:33 Well, as it turns out, Freenode could permanently banish Rodney ... 21:33 or reining in the latest attempt at an ultrahard "fuck u" boss 21:33 misha, I'll probably get a cloak of some sort, dunno if I want an Ubuntu one back. 21:33 (but seriously where's the fucking bobble hats) 21:34 rodney already left freenode 21:35 K2, yes, but every time he left and rejoined, it would be "So you thought you could banish me?" 21:35 As it turns out, Freenode could, by becoming big giant bastards 21:36 they didn't kill Rodney though, he just levelported over here 21:36 And then the dungeon collapsed 21:37 misha, but Rodney doesn't respawn anymore. That being said, I guess the wizard is ust playing a variant now 21:37 For some time there were already two Rodneys. They only managed to kill one Rodney. 21:37 I wonder how long it will take Amy to add a Freenode monster to SLEX to note the migration. 21:37 or a Freenode level 21:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:47175 21:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Death, on T:47186 21:41 That 21:41 ...is unfortunately sounding like a very Amy thing. 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful water moccasin, on T:4793 21:41 Umbire, it is possible to predict Amy. You just need to unbundle your mind first ... 21:42 i predict amy all the time 21:42 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 21:42 Demo, you've looked deep into the soul of Amy, and Amy looked back 21:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:47193 21:43 thankfully no 21:43 I read that as "Amy looked black" 21:46 tsingi, it still accurate 21:46 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 21:51 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful wood nymph, on T:6100 21:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1443091 points, T:47260, killed by an uninjured hallucinogen-distorted poohbah of Lugh (with the Amulet) 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:30164 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4957 points, T:6269, killed by a red naga hatchling 21:55 rip 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:15172 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3552 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3942 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 220 points, T:697, killed by Ms. Kesh; the shopkeeper 22:01 "Trollsbane bestowed" - Urc, you might want to change gods, cause obviously yours hates you. 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4627 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 222 points, T:544, killed by a gnome 22:05 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 54 points, T:168, killed by Ms. Holmavik; the shopkeeper 22:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1884 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5956 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class G), on T:1650 22:21 Trollsbane isn't /so/ bad if you get it with a role that actually does shit with morning stars 22:21 e.g. Priest or Barbarian 22:21 but honestly that might be the xNet speaking 22:21 s/xNet/xnh 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) stole 623 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Asidonhopo's general store, on T:1666 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1317 points, T:1746, killed by a giant spider 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7308 22:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed Fixed +3 Bone Gauntlets of Power", on T:2690 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 53 points, T:316, killed by a kobold zombie 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:8359 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:8452 22:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed Spellbook of Identify", on T:4243 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 820 points, T:1295, choked on a deadly slime mold 22:42 <@nabru> ! lastgame lurchy 22:42 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lurchy/nethack/dumplog/1622082196.nh.html 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 170 points, T:797, killed by a Kop Sergeant 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3221 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Sam Hum Fem Law), 130 points, T:186, killed by a jackal, while reading a book 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3431 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3537 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 422 points, T:905, killed by Ms. Akranes; the shopkeeper 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 66 points, T:159, killed by a fox 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Maud (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:49381 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:10932 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Magician, on T:11427 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5265 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:5294 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5362 23:04 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:05 -!- Hekik has quit [Quit: Cheers, goodnight/day] 23:09 Umbire, even in that case, it's still pretty terrible. Morningstars are one of the lowest DPS weapons in the game, and well, you'd have to be pretty desperate to put skill points in flails 23:10 I could *vaguely* see it worthwhile if you were playing a variant with convict, which can use flail skill with the punishment ball. 23:10 Morning stars have their own skill. 23:10 And xnh Trollsbane has hungerless regen 23:10 Of course they do 23:11 Umbire, xnh is an exception 23:11 Which is why I mentioned upfront that it might be the xnh speaking 23:11 But most of the banes are bad to meh. Demonsbane is the only bane where it's + damage bonus is sorta worthwhile 23:11 As a priest, I usually go through the trouble of unrestricting a skill slot 23:12 the weapon balance in nethack makes me so sad. 23:13 Dragonbane has reflection and dragon scales are p. desirable 23:14 Sunsword isn't too bad either by virtue of sheer amount of undead 23:14 Tho that's probably on the higher end of meh, Dragonbane I'd venture to call good 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:6622 23:14 Umbire, I thought reflection was in a variant 23:15 Nope 23:15 Reflection when wielded 23:15 Designed to counter dragonbreath 23:15 Dragonsbane is actually pretty decent, although +damage to dragons is kinda meh since vanilla dragons aren't exactly terrorifying. 23:16 Sunsword is pretty decent, although I don't remember the last time I've seen it 23:16 +light is nice 23:16 I mean dragons can be kinda wew in melee 23:16 Yeah, but by time you encounter team D, you usually should be strong enough to face them 23:16 but then if you're playing DPS roles you may/may not notice as much 23:16 Exception being if you do an early fort 23:16 plus that 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 418 points, T:1688, killed by a giant mimic, while sleeping 23:17 Werebane is meh for the face that ... really you need a bane for werecreatures, but it's a silver sabre so by definition it's decent. 23:17 Sunsword is also just nice for light, IMO 23:17 *fact 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:35, killed by an anti-magic implosion 23:18 I do consider Excallibur somewhat overrated. It's nice for the earlygame, but it's not super amazing as compared to say Grayswandir 23:18 I should really get over my adversion to artifact wishing 23:18 "say... Grayswandir" lol 23:18 ^That's an inherently unfair comparison 23:19 Even just standard Excal can serve a Valk all game, among a few other roles 23:19 Now that I've said the balance makes me sad, I'm actually wondering if the problem is that I'm too spoiled 23:19 Might be. 23:19 Might also be a mix o' Col. A, Col. B 23:19 and the "solved" facts of the highest/ideal min/maxed DPS weapons and things is just coloring my perception 23:20 Umbire, to be fair a #twoweaponing valk isn't going to have much issues killing anything. 23:20 Werebane's problem is most werecreatures are early-game problems 23:20 not even just twoweaponing lmao 23:20 hackedhead, a lot of it mostly boils down to is that most of the weapons you find in the dungeon are going to be worse than your startng equipment 23:20 right, that 23:20 Like if there were more werefoo variety later on then yeah 23:20 Tourist being the only real exception 23:20 And Healer :v 23:21 And Caveman :y 23:21 NCommander: so thats' annoying but also realisitic, early game especially. 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3371 23:21 And Archeologist 23:21 :J 23:21 Healer is restricted in learning any major weapon skills. 23:21 like it's internally consistent, my Valk doesn't want some dumb orc's bad sword. 23:21 * Umbire looks at unihorns and staves 23:21 Caveman can manage until Specter of Might, since Caveman quest isn't THAT hard. 23:21 that said, I also dislike that there are a lot of undifferentiated skills 23:21 Umbire, no artifact unihorn, plus they get the drainstick. 23:21 sword/saber/scimitar 23:21 knife/dagger 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:15769 23:21 which is why I mentioned staves 23:22 Archeologist ... yeah ok, I'll give you that one. Orb of Detection is middle of the road as far as quest artifacts, and the whip is really meh. 23:22 three kinds of "swords" that have very little material differentiation 23:22 all the fragging polearms 23:22 Mostly because that's a level of nuance you can only cover so much of with damage rolls 23:22 weight and shape of the blade counts for a lot 23:22 as opposed to the polearms thing, which is just ??? 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:37379 23:23 on account of being an ad&d holdover 23:23 A lot of it is that your starting weapon is enough to carry you for almost all the classes that get a weapon as a quest artifact 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:37386 23:23 Also any aklys slaps the shit out of the starting club for cavefolk 23:23 also healer quest sucks shit. 23:24 Arcs you can at least use pick-axes to train up for big-damage mattocks, should you decide to go that route 23:24 And most of the guaranteed sac artifacts are almost all usable through the endgame. 23:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Anchorite (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Minetown, on T:2440 23:24 Since we have #tip now. 23:24 Whip is a good utility item, more than a weapon 23:25 I've never had great luck w/ getting an Arc off the ground 23:25 I dunno if I ever got one to the quest 23:25 I lost my best one to fucking Demo 23:25 And yes I know that pings 23:26 yeah 23:26 My last two ascensions, Demo showed up and I wrecked him. 23:26 So yeah, Arc, Cav, Hea, and Tou have it rough with starting weapons 23:26 maybe he has feelings 23:26 Demo, yes, you can have feelings :) 23:27 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:27 Was tempted to say Wiz but honestly the starting staff is dece + not really "supposed" to melee with that role anyway 23:27 Umbire, Healer is very much pet user though, if they really need a weapon, its best to unrestrict something. 23:27 They have viable weapon skill slots, like the ones I mentioned 23:27 My chaotic priest sacced for Stormbringer, which is probably one of the better chaotic artifacts. 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17206 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 489 points, T:1008, killed by a mountain dwarf, while praying 23:27 Not enough to main on the level of like, Valk, but it's something 23:28 I mean yeah but that's Stormbringer 23:28 Umbire, true, but they're not going to be a murderdozer. 23:28 I just said that but with slightly more words! 23:28 I'll say less words. 23:28 healers low DPS :) 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Ride (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 79339 points, T:16409, killed by a rock troll 23:28 healers not that low DPS :T 23:29 But still low 23:29 (curiously, basic in scimitar) 23:29 oh and saber neat 23:29 Ah right skilled in club 23:29 another case for the aklys 23:29 I just find healers very very boring to play 23:29 if anything I want an excuse to use tridents 23:30 I've gotten a few to the castle and went splat. 23:30 But they're very snoozeville 23:30 My most memoriable games tend to be Priests or Wizards 23:30 -!- tsingi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:31 Since priests can see BUC, they basically can find that +4 piece of random armor much easier. 23:31 mhm 23:31 Wizards have so much variable play depending on what spellbooks the RNG coughs up. 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 925 points, T:2363, killed by a giant mosquito 23:32 Although they can also get stuck doing excessive farming if the RNG gives you knock, and the following ones are wizard lock, jumping, and cure sickness 23:33 Knock's underrated for door/chest traps 23:33 Also shit like the Castle drawbridge 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 404 points, T:924, killed by a flint stone 23:34 Ow 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9044 23:35 <@Earth Traveler> man i just lost my barb at the castle to a minotaur... 23:35 Meleeing minos = no bueno 23:35 gonna need a wand or two to help with that 23:36 <@Earth Traveler> well the main problem was i came down the stairs onto a boulder 23:36 <@Earth Traveler> so i got out my pickaxe to break it 23:37 <@Earth Traveler> and of course the minotaur immediately showed up... 23:37 And that's when the mino showed 23:37 And did you not switch back to your main weapon 23:37 Or did you realize about 3 swings too late 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a steel axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:669 23:37 <@Earth Traveler> i did but it did so much damage it was already too late 23:37 Yep 23:38 <@Earth Traveler> and i was boxed in by a snake on the other side 23:38 No wands? 23:38 <@Earth Traveler> that ended up being too little too late 23:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 178 points, T:740, killed by Mr. Akalapi; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 23:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of life saving", on T:35983 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3318 23:41 Guessing you were Statue Surfer on NAO? 23:42 <@Earth Traveler> yeah 23:42 Ah 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:9933 23:43 I see, backtracking after finding the castle 23:43 -6 AC was a bit too weak for that scenario sadly 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed ThatBenGuy's ghost, the former Adept, on T:10018 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Scout, on T:26788 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2356 points, T:3703, killed by a blue jelly 23:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Daemon, on T:36202 23:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10677 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:10898 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] secra (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 719 points, T:2744, killed by a lizard