00:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Pir Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:50249 00:04 [hdf-us] [spl] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 925 points, T:1724, killed by a bone dagger 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 5429 points, T:2866, withered away 00:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2320 points, T:1422, killed by a jaguar 00:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Pir Hum Mal Law), 11892958 points, T:50373, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/KrO2/dnethack/dumplog/1619301878.dnh.txt 00:22 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 14691 points, T:8601, killed by a dragon zombie 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 512 points, T:845, killed by a nearly deceased hobgoblin 00:30 Geeg 00:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 7143 points, T:2387, killed by a giant spider 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Maud (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed twiggets' ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3428 01:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Maud (Mon Hum Mal Law), 3446 points, T:3817, killed by a wounded water demon called Bane of Cursed-Potion Dipper 01:22 -!- sungog has joined #hardfought 01:43 -!- Kougyoku has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:21 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 02:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:31 -!- sungog has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:9200 02:50 lol 03:01 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:02 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Arc Ang Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:14013 03:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11239 03:10 Umbire: the commit linked in the reddit post has a comment that provides background info to the folklore of foocubi changing their gender https://reddit.com/comments/leuy6p//gms59yt 03:10 Thank 03:15 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 581 points, T:2010, killed by a dwarf 03:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:22 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Quit: spicyCebolla] 03:25 aoei: chronologically, achieveX was in SLEX first. then achieveX/conductX got into vanilla, after vanilla got a commit that talked about adding a new conduct2 field to workaround the 32 bits limit. I panic committed then achieveX/conductX :-) unnethack actually got it last 03:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:29 unnethack shamelessly stealing from slex smh my head 03:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] Roger (Rog Dop Fem Cha), 1200 points, T:2502, quit 03:32 -!- Graznop has joined #hardfought 03:37 amateurhour: if it's any consolidation, it was always my code to begin with :-) 03:45 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Arc Ang Mal Law), 13188 points, T:14103, killed while stuck in creature form 03:47 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:49 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 03:51 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:51 bhaak: ahhh so i was partly right 03:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:53 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 03:56 -!- tjw has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:03 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 366 points, T:1363, killed by an acidic corpse 04:06 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 04:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:13 -!- tjw has joined #hardfought 04:15 NetSysFire: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Trap_(Slash%27EM_Extended) - it now lists all the trap types present in the current slex version, although I still need to add descriptions. please say OMG now :D 04:21 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3262 points, T:1834, killed by a soldier ant 04:29 damn hopefully he sees it... better use a !tell command 04:29 !tell NetSysFire NetSysFire: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Trap_(Slash%27EM_Extended) - it now lists all the trap types present in the current slex version, although I still need to add descriptions. please say OMG now :D bundlebundlebundle! 04:29 NetSysFire shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 04:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:44 [hdf-eu] [fh] y (Dzejo) (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 5278 points, T:49, quit 04:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1655 04:48 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: rebooting vps] 04:50 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 04:51 hi amateurhour, are you here? right now I'm on your favorite slex level :D 04:58 !whereis AmyBSOD 04:58 amateurhour: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex]: (Sco Lvl Fem Neu) T:8614 The Dungeons of Doom level: 13 04:58 ah 04:59 the level where a pick-axe is useful :P 04:59 the game would be improved by deleting that floor :) 04:59 OMG updated traps list 05:00 oh and I also had map amnesia, but it finally timed out 05:00 looking forward to the full descriptions 05:00 heh, yeah I need to add them 05:00 pentagram trap should be listed under useful traps 05:01 can also have detrimental effects though 05:01 but generally they're really great 05:01 I feel lucky to find them 05:01 yeah but they're not classified as "useful trap" (i.e. don't use the $ glyph), just like the lasting amnesia trap is not classified as a nasty trap :P 05:02 oh I see, i thought the section was for 'traps that are useful' haha 05:02 misread 05:03 heh, which trap is or isn't useful can be subjective and/or depending on the situation 05:03 got a cursed -2 dagger welded to your hand? well, suddenly the rust trap is useful! 05:05 superthing from level 55 05:05 those para you if stood next to them, right? 05:05 yeah 05:05 I think I died once because of a gehennom floor that had loads of those 05:05 right next to the stairs there were 3 of them 05:06 idk if the walls had just been replaced by them or if there's a floor with guaranteed ones 05:06 it might have even been dlvl 55 for all I recall 05:06 :D 05:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1941 05:08 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1613502555.slex.txt 05:09 oh, the bee level 05:09 -!- hothraxx1 has joined #hardfought 05:09 I'm on the stairs, the other stairs is a branch 05:09 wasn't gehennom it seems, dlvl 49 05:10 You consume rotten giant beetle. You feel healthy. 05:10 as aoei would say: pog :D 05:10 and yeah the bee level normally spawns somewhere in the regular dungeons 05:10 does it always have superthings? 05:11 yes, always that horizontal line in the center 05:11 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:11 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:11 what are 'superthings from level 55' supposed to bee? 05:11 a glitch from castle of the winds; originally they caused the game to freeze when farlooked, but that would be too evil even for slex 05:12 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 05:12 i like how the word pog is now associated with me in amy's mind 05:12 thank u for inventing this word aoei 05:12 its my last day at the NEET training center o.o 05:12 amateurhour: it was my pleasure, truly 05:12 im glad u enjoy it too 05:13 NEET training center 05:13 goddamn, amateurhour do you know what is really annoying? when you're on that wall-covered level and some perfume-spreading thing is somewhere behind the wall, perfuming you while you dig, and you have no idea where exactly it is :P 05:13 not in education, employment, or training training center 05:13 amateurhour: it's called the "talent center" lol 05:13 and turned out to be way better than I expected 05:13 the "basic course" kinda sucked 05:13 but the latter half was actually p cool 05:13 anyway I have to leave for the next part of today's tour now, but on the bright side I'll probably get to eat some pizza :D 05:14 okey have fun amy 05:14 cya 05:14 see you ♥ *herzchenschmüschel* 05:14 * aoei bundlebundlebunels Amy 05:14 :D 05:14 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:15 need to remember to visit their office today about the reimbursement for the tube ticket 05:15 i spent €112 on a full month's ticket, for peak times 05:16 but i might not get it all back because they only pay for the cheapest possible option, and i was in the afternoon slot which means i coulda got an off-peak ticket :/ 05:16 oh well let's see how that works out 05:16 i should get some money back at least 05:16 i actually walked in a lot of the days, but they don't need to know this, and i still bought a ticket, so 05:18 Cheeky. :-) 05:19 lol hey Pinkbeast 05:19 how are you? 05:20 Well, I ain't going to complain to you about having to do work on a nice day like this. 05:20 ok cool, thanks for not complaining 05:20 i just got another payment from the social :0 05:20 my bank account is in the black 05:20 happy days 05:28 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 719 points, T:765, killed by a rothe 05:29 oh, I see, the money I got a few days ago was backpay for March/April, and the new one is for May, so it's not in arrears like with normal job income 05:29 seems like something vaguely important i ought to keep in mind for my finances 05:32 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1135 points, T:1506, killed by a wolf 05:41 amy, i always check my backlog :p go Beholder tell me the link 05:41 NetSysFire: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-04-30 04:29 EDT: NetSysFire: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Trap_(Slash%27EM_Extended) - it now lists all the trap types present in the current slex version, although I still need to add descriptions. please say OMG now :D bundlebundlebundle! 05:46 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Jed Woo Fem Neu), 16268 points, T:3888, killed by a monster (outoftime mummy) 05:48 holy shit how many traps 05:51 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Arc Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4658 06:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4690 06:28 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 06:31 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:32 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 37 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30207, rt[4:06:09] 06:33 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:32316 06:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32319 06:56 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:30809, rt[4:13:16] 07:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1068 points, T:529, killed by a housecat 07:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 6 points, T:95, poisoned by a rotted jackal corpse 07:03 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 143 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:31345, rt[4:20:03] 07:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 708 points, T:1756, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:05 that was a stupid death 07:06 K2 the infidel role is amazing. i love it 07:06 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 670 points, T:453, killed by a bolt of fire 07:08 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 118 points, T:1060, killed by a little dart 07:13 NetSysFire awesome. Tomsod created infidel role 07:13 if he ever pops back online, be sure to tell him 07:16 i sure will! 07:17 "You finish eating the red mold corpse. You feel healthier." what does that mean? i already have intrinsic fire res 07:19 healthy is poison resistance 07:19 hmm right i think they also convey it 07:19 "You eat the gnome zombie's brain! The gnome zombie doesn't notice." haha 07:21 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed greased scrolls of charging", on T:33193, rt[4:38:10] 07:21 dammit 07:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 770 points, T:1708, killed by a pseudodragon 07:21 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:33194, rt[4:38:29] 07:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:24 NetSysFire: I'm so bad at Illithid, but they're one of my favorites at the moment. 07:24 their strength cap is so low, can i increase it with enough spinach? 07:24 no, max is 10 07:25 so finding GoP is a Thing™ for illithids 07:25 dammit again 07:25 argh 07:25 NetSysFire: Ring of strength, or GoP, indeed. 07:25 NetSysFire: They do eventually get intrinsic flying, though. 07:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 208 points, T:454, killed by a brown mold 07:25 their passive cold attack wrecked me 07:25 their hp is so low 07:25 That improves. 07:25 nurse dancing will be important 07:26 off to work, cya in a bit 07:27 > "Hello, vermin. Welcome to Manlobbi's general store." <-- Ha! 07:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:27 lol 07:28 do stone skull caps hinder spellcasting? 07:28 Nope. 07:28 Stone's awesome. 07:28 Or bone 07:28 (if the weight matters) 07:29 NetSysFire: I see you're an infidel this time. 07:29 yup 07:29 mobileuser: i have both 07:29 but AC matters right now 07:31 NetSysFire: One tip: Use psionic wave as much as you can. 07:31 the return of bone or stone 07:31 NetSysFire: You melee a lot. 07:31 Arahael: i already found that out :) 07:31 coyotes wreck me 07:31 and yeah i tend to melee 07:32 Damn nymphs. Stole my magic lamp. 07:32 rip 07:32 hey wheres Beholder 07:32 inb4 timeout 07:33 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 07:33 Nice, it didn't use it. 07:34 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:33910, rt[4:51:08] 07:34 one thing i am still confused about are incremental resistances 07:34 if i got lets say 20% sleep res, does this help against sleep attacks 20% of the time? 07:35 I think it reduces the severity by 20% 07:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1816 07:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had a platinum splint mail entrusted to her by Mars, on T:66619 07:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:2142 07:47 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34641, rt[5:04:47] 07:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34717, rt[5:05:38] 07:54 -!- eady has joined #hardfought 07:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v eady] by ChanServ 07:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 815 points, T:1078, killed by a slightly wounded ape 07:57 Arahael:i found your ghost 07:57 NetSysFire: Ah, that one. :) That was today. 07:57 -!- jonadab has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Novice, on T:2999 07:58 -!- eady is now known as jonadab 07:59 Early monk. Nice. 07:59 You're stressed! 08:00 You're still burdened! 08:01 damn scroll of eath 08:01 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 425 points, T:1277, killed by a wererat 08:02 NetSysFire: Luckily you survived that. The boulders will be easy to remove, anyway. 08:02 Hmm... You read the unidentified scrolls? 08:02 yup 08:02 i always forget that i can use cursed items 08:03 oilskin gloves? hmm 08:03 Indeed. 08:04 Why do you need to wear the amulet of yendor? (I forget the benefits) 08:04 Play hot and cold with the portals, for one thing 08:05 I usualyl save my fortune cookies. They weigh next to nothing, and are useful for taming some pets, or at least pacifying them. 08:07 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 224 points, T:399, killed by a bat 08:07 Pinkbeast: You do realise why it's so bad to be burdened? 08:08 ugh 08:08 * NCommander feels really really breaken and tired :( 08:08 Arahael: Eh? 08:08 Pinkbeast, you can be doubleturned while being burdened and and have a speed diseventage 08:08 *disadvantage 08:08 NCommander: Why are you telling me this? 08:08 Pinkbeast: Oops, I should've sent that to NetSysFire. :) 08:08 I've known this since before half the channel was _born_. 08:09 Arahael: no i dont 08:09 sorry, I was following up to what Arahael was saying 08:09 i planned on dropping stuff anyways 08:09 but the orcs came 08:09 NetSysFire, yeah, that's the danger moving burdened. If I have to move a stash, I at least keep it in a container I can drop instancely to deburden myself 08:09 ... 08:09 that sounds really dirty 08:09 NetSysFire: I'd have immediately dropped so that you werne't burdened. It massively slows you down. 08:10 is that an evilhack specific thing? 08:10 No, vanilla. 08:10 even in vanilla it wasnt that bad imo 08:10 NetSysFire: You came really close to dying several times, you were lucky. 08:10 !PoM 08:10 NetSysFire: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 11 days. 08:10 Your speed is cut to 3/4rds, and you also have to-hit penalities 08:10 ... although past a certain point the to-hit penalties don't stop you hitting 100% of the time 08:11 Your St is already pathetic, as an illithid, as well, so you're really not doing any favours. 08:11 in pretty much any roguelike, speed is life. 08:11 lol Pinkbeast showing ur age eh 08:11 aoei: get off my lawn! :-) 08:11 lmao 08:11 Well, thats basically how you wear bodyarmor as a monk 08:11 and just deal with it 08:12 Pinkbeast: its my last day of state mandated NEET training \o/ 08:12 and the teacher is letting me faff about on my laptop 08:12 so im working on the nethack scoreboard 08:12 Didn't just montage through it? 08:12 altho in theory im supposed to be writing a cover letter or something 08:12 hah 08:12 aoei: If they challenge you, you should tell them the story of Donald Knuth, who had ot write a book. 08:13 is he the one who wrote uhmmm 08:13 wait the name rings a bell 08:13 * aoei checks her books directory 08:13 great and close to dying yet again 08:13 "the art of computer programming" 08:13 i dint read it yet tho 08:13 is it good? 08:14 Yep. Yeah, it's good, though I'd just read it at the library or something. It's loooooong. I've bought a chapter, myself. Just one chapter. 08:14 -!- tsingi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:14 It's perhaps too deep for the average programmer 08:14 Yeah, but there's a certain beauty in it. 08:14 The sort you read at night before bed. 08:14 (Seriously!) 08:14 https://yakshav.es/the-patron-saint-of-yakshaves/ 08:15 !rng Nethack | Angband | Stellaris 08:15 NCommander: Angband 08:15 \o/ 08:15 Arahael: i have the ebook 08:15 FREEDOM 08:15 Pinkbeast: it can't be denser than Gödel Escher Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid 08:15 surely? 08:15 (that one i never made it past chapter 3 or so) 08:15 also i broke the scoreboard D: 08:15 crapsies 08:16 It's dryer. I mean, I've read Knuth, and I'm not saying "don't read Knuth", but more that reading it to know more might be a bit like reading up on valve gear timings so you can buy a train ticket 08:17 Honestly, a chapter is enough. 08:17 !lastgame scoreboard 08:17 NCommander: No last game for scoreboard. 08:17 aoei, oh wow, you really killed it 08:17 I'm very happy to have bought my chapter, but I feel no need to buy another. 08:17 Its so dead, it doesn't eixst 08:17 yeah 08:17 :( 08:17 aoei: TIME TO REWRITE IT! 08:17 aoei, this is why we don't do repairs with a scroll of genocide 08:17 don't worry all the data was backed up in demodb 08:17 yeah i backed it up 08:18 Whereas, say, reading the TeXbook is much more likely to be practically useful 08:18 but im not sure *how* i broke it 08:18 aoei: Rewrite it all in CWEB. Or, at the very least, Rust. ;) 08:18 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:18 -_- 08:18 Arahael: yes yes very funny 08:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4501 points, T:4916, killed by a baby owlbear, while fainted from lack of food 08:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:5527 08:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 808 points, T:959, killed by a giant rat 08:20 Evilhack has unaligned playable? 08:20 I wanted to make that work :( 08:20 NCommander: Yep. Infidel role. 08:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 125 points, T:48, killed by a rabbit, while helpless 08:21 So whats the ascension condition? 08:21 Killed by a rabbit!? How very monty python. 08:22 NCommander: Not sure, actually, but the ascension condition is very different. 08:22 Oh interesting 08:22 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:22 I'm reading the wiki 08:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:943 08:22 NCommander: Keep in mind the wiki is version 0.6, whereas we've got 0.7 up on the server. 08:23 I may have to try evilhack, but I had too many games where the zombiepolocy nuked me 08:23 But that was like at 0.2/0.3 08:24 I only started with 0.6, but zombies are still seriously scary. 08:24 I made it to the ascension run 08:24 But I splatted 08:24 Got stuck in VotD and Rodney did me in 08:24 Woah, nice. 08:24 I've barely even gotten to VotD. 08:25 Well, I think I made it to vlad's once. 08:25 Once you get a few ascensions done, you generally can make it to the ascension run with regularity 08:25 Not me, I make stupid mistakes. Plus I usually play tired 08:25 THat's the part that annoying me w/ late game NetHack. The challenge kinda disappears from Castle -> endgame. 08:25 I've ascended several times in vanilla. 08:25 maybe you can NCommander but I'm still noobing it up :) 08:26 NCommander: I htink you'll find that K2's made a lot of changes. 08:26 amateurhour, well, the thing is, if you can clear the castle, things don't get significantly more difficult 08:26 (in vanilla) 08:26 29 ascs across variants and I still play like I've never heard of roguelikes before 08:26 and even in most variants. 08:27 NCommander: The castle is trivial. 08:27 NCommander: Ever done the ice queen's branch? 08:27 Nope, but as I said, it's been awhile for Evilhack 08:27 Was more talking about variants in general 08:28 Ah, fair enough - well, I believe K2's specifically been trying to change that. 08:28 i only ascended to heaven and i did that too many times so far 08:28 I can't play vanillia much any more - too boring. 08:29 i dont think you'll find evilhack boring after the castle 08:29 of course, whats boring and what isnt is relative 08:29 Indeed, I find evil a far more interesting game. 08:30 I'll have to try it again 08:30 with 0.7, 'replayability' during gehennom just went up significantly 08:30 NCommander: I highly recommend it! 08:30 What I found with evilhack when I played, when it was still a new variant was it was rather brutual at the start, then leveled off, and then got brutual just by be less mazy 08:30 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2455 reminds me of https://xkcd.com/1084/ 08:30 NCommander when you tried evilhack it was version 0.3.x 08:31 a LOT has changed since :) 08:31 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 82 points, T:309, killed by a water moccasin 08:31 NCommander: The start is still pretty brutal, but as long as you don't make stupid mistakes like I do, and as long as you avoid getting into stupid situations by going down too fast before you've gotten the stuff you should have (such as MR, reflection, blindfolds, etc), you're OK. 08:31 Mind you, I always play hard and fast... 08:31 I may try it again, I now have a mechanical keyboard, which means I can play in glorious HD 08:31 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 0 points, T:47, choked on a tin of spinach 08:31 AND hI-fI 08:31 click click clack 08:31 NCommander: Which keyboard? Which keys, specifically? 08:32 Corsair K95 XT Plat, Cherry MX Blue, PBT 08:32 K2: You mean Cl-click, Cl-click, etc? :) 08:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Cav Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2298 08:32 WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM 08:32 Prebuilt, cause, JFC, finding a custom board which isn't SSK/60^ is hard 08:32 NCommander: OOh, very nice. I use MX Brown's, myself, when I'm in my home-office. But at work scissor-keyboards because the coworkers complained. :( 08:32 Arahael, I actually am debating taking a rework statoin and replacing the swtiches with MX Green 08:32 * Pinkbeast uses a Model M as God intended 08:32 NCommander: Not sure what the green's like. 08:33 Arahael, ah, "tactical" switches if you don't want tacticity :) 08:33 heh 08:33 Pinkbeast, I actually dislike Model Ms, I love Model Fs, but the Model Fs with 103 keys but the old switches are hard to find. 08:33 Pinkbeast: If I could get one, and with the right adapter, I'd have one already. 08:33 Model M's and the like are much more common in india and the US, I think. 08:34 I have an AT board with Alpha blue switches that I've been tempted to change. 83 key layout with all the other keys. 08:34 *Alps 08:34 Arahael: I've got about three scrounged up in the UK 08:34 Very close to what I played rogue on back in the day 08:34 Pinkbeast: Nice. 08:34 I need to back and win rogue 08:34 I'm in Australia, though, so buckling spring is impossible to find. 08:34 Arahael: It helps if you develop a taste for them in about 1995, too 08:34 Pinkbeast: Sure, and they feel *amazing*. 08:35 They feel amazing if the springs are good. 08:35 Just insanely rare, and I'm on a mac all the time these days. 08:35 And ebay isn't that hard to find. 08:35 at least in the states 08:35 Right - again, in the states. 08:35 Totally different ebay down-under. 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10298 08:40 [hdf-eu] [seed] hilliance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 08:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:35311, rt[5:14:50] 08:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:35314, rt[5:15:01] 08:48 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 821 points, T:1025, killed by a gnome 08:49 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:35566, rt[5:20:02] 08:53 Arahael, true, MattKC has noted getting old tech of anything ir eally hard in Oz. 08:55 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:35696, rt[5:25:14] 08:55 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:35698, rt[5:25:24] 08:58 -!- Amybundlie has joined #hardfought 08:59 bored, so I thought I'd use train wifi to hop on the irc 09:00 kinda want to work on the traps page but that has to wait until i'm back home 09:05 nice 09:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9884 09:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:12 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:15 -!- Saxtheowl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:15 -!- microla has joined #hardfought 09:16 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 09:17 -!- hothraxx1 is now known as hothraxxa 09:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Arc Vam Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7078 09:18 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:37820, rt[5:48:59] 09:18 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:20 K2 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3056 09:21 also why no paranoid_trap 09:22 there are certain things I believe the player should be responsible for 09:22 -!- Amybundlie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:23 yeah sure but i ran into the same trapdoor two times because of lag 09:23 you are responsible for lag 09:23 don't like it, better pay for a better connection, or move, it's your responsibility 09:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:38042, rt[5:54:25] 09:24 what aosdict said 09:25 hah 09:25 <{Demo}> hey k2 i got a new keyboard 09:25 no 09:25 alas, if only there was a beautiful and handsome variant that doesn't think the player should be punished for typoing something clearly wrong... 09:25 <{Demo}> and its hard for me to not typo into water 09:25 <{Demo}> give me 09:25 <{Demo}> ahhhh :( 09:26 aosdict: give me a stash location and i will move 09:26 and who knows, maybe the lag was on the server 09:26 * NetSysFire glares at the hdf-admins 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] ThatBenGuy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 16699 points, T:12360, killed by a wounded gray unicorn 09:26 NetSysFire just so you're aware - we've had some heated debates in here before regarding paranoid in evilhack and other games. my stance is clear, evilhack will never have any extra paranoid options beyond what vanilla nethack already has 09:27 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:38174, rt[5:57:17] 09:27 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 09:27 ^ dont know what that is 09:28 this means that anyone who wants paranoid stuff in evilhack should throw their support behind https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/257 and https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/259 - if vanilla adds these, then well, evilhack won't be adding any extra, will it? 09:28 maybe 09:28 i reserve the right to change my mind on a whim for no reason whatsoever 09:28 <{Demo}> me too 09:28