00:04 did you try that with just one wish, or several times? I think it just gives a random potion 00:05 there is no code that specifically looks for "restore" 00:08 Several wishes 00:08 It gave me extra healing and then healing, unsure if actual coincidence 00:08 Anyway, you'll be happy to find 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3221 00:09 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/833554858183229470/bx5CwGKDvF.gif 00:10 ^cursed saddle + wumpus = you don't fall off 00:10 -!- Agrius1 has joined #hardfought 00:10 -!- Agrius1 has quit [Client Quit] 00:12 -!- Kougyoku has joined #hardfought 00:13 -!- Agrius has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:14 lmfaoooooooo 00:15 tried for a cursed fig of a water nymph and got a peaceful and tame one in that order 00:16 ...huh. 00:17 apparently you CAN fall off a cursed saddle by riding over ice 00:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 182 points, T:1231, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4867 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] joan (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:6956 00:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) completed Sokoban, on T:8249 00:22 whoops, slid out of the stirrups trying to move over water again and drowned 00:22 (except not really because wizmode) 00:24 couldn't use spell of knock to free myself, but once I fell off it worked as normal 00:24 hmmmmmmmmmmm 00:26 In any case, proved not even a cursed saddle stops you falling off 00:26 (all the time anyway) 00:27 What if you grease the saddle? 00:28 As in, will a cursed saddle keep you stuck even while greased? 00:31 Does it make any difference? 00:31 That's what you're asking, aren't you? 00:31 :3 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7614 00:32 Yeah. But it'd be kinda silly to have a cursed greased saddle 00:35 Grease seems to have no effect. 00:40 [hdf-eu] [seed] omghax (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 00:40 !whereis omghax 00:41 K2: omghax is not playing. 00:41 !who 00:41 K2: [hdf-us] joan [nh370] luxor [slshm] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 00:41 hmm 00:41 <@luxidream> omghax failed?? 00:41 hah 00:41 !who 00:41 K2: [hdf-us] joan [nh370] luxor [slshm] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 00:43 oh i see 00:45 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 00:45 -!- tepper.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ SlashTHEM 0.9.5 now available to play! 00:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 00:45 Hmmm, further testing seems to indicate it's entirely related to the ice, I'm not experiencing anymore falling with this regular saddle 00:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] omghax (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 00:46 !who 00:46 K2: [hdf-us] joan [nh370] luxor [slshm] | [hdf-eu] omghax [seed] | [hdf-au] No current players 00:46 !whereis omghax 00:46 K2: [hdf-eu] omghax [seed]: (Pri Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 00:46 [hdf-eu] [seed] omghax (Pri Hum Mal Law), 4 points, T:13, rt[0:00:46], wc[0:00:49], killed by a falling object 00:47 @luxidream, aoei and I took over the setseed build, I made my own repo for the server. it's updated with the latest vanilla 3.7 commits as of a couple hrs ago 00:48 infinigon_ has been MIA :( and setseed needed more updates from vanilla plus some stuff aoei and I did 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] joan (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5974 points, T:9596, killed by a wounded giant mimic 00:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:55 K2: is your repo + list of things to do public? I could see to send you some pull requests 00:56 https://github.com/k21971/setseed 00:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00 [hdf-au] [seed] omghax (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 01:01 !who 01:01 K2: [hdf-us] luxor [slshm] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] omghax [seed] 01:01 !whereis omghax 01:01 K2: [hdf-au] omghax [seed]: (Tou Hum Mal Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 01:01 [hdf-au] [seed] omghax (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:5, rt[0:00:38], wc[0:00:41], killed by a falling object 01:01 <@luxidream> awesome 01:01 Setseed updated (all servers) 01:01 <@luxidream> maybe I'll play it some tonight 01:02 ^ latest nethack 3.7.0 updates 01:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:02 is the to-do list under "TODO" on that repo k2? 01:02 @luxidream when you play next, if you notice any setseed features not working, let me know 01:03 Kougyoku probably. I didnt create setseed, I just forked the repo and updated it with latest vanilla bits 01:03 and 'branded' it 01:03 a lot of stuff was still showing as nethack 3.7.0, now its setseed 1.0.0 01:04 i think aoei is taking over the actual coding bits for setseed 01:04 right, just was wondering if there was anything in specific that needed working on. and ok, I can link up w/aoei 01:04 thanks 01:05 Hi Luxi 01:16 Shit 01:16 Anyone have the link to that Bilious rgrn group? 01:17 or whichever one it was that wasn't the old rgrn, I'm cooked 01:20 and again, nvm 01:37 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:42 -!- Kougyoku has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4525 01:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4529 01:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4575 01:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:4926 01:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:5009 02:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:05 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Asmodeus, on T:60796 02:17 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 02:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:41 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 02:43 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:48 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:53 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:55 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 03:07 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 03:08 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:10 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:17 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:19 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 03:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:74165 03:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:74234 03:22 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:74313 03:23 hey why do I have a sense of deja vu when I go down into the sanctum? Only because there's a ghost with my name here? 03:24 (I've never been to the sanctum before in this game, and anyway I don't think it leaves bones) 03:26 yeah just a ghost with you name 03:26 *your 03:28 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 03:29 henlo frenz 03:29 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:35 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 03:36 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3497 03:45 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:50 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 03:50 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:03 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 04:06 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:5265 04:20 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 04:25 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:27 [hdf-eu] [seed] joes (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 04:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7472 04:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 7013 points, T:8243, killed by an uninjured gray unicorn 04:42 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 996 points, T:1670, killed by a giant bat 04:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] joes (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1612 points, T:1539, rt[0:12:53], wc[0:14:28], killed by a wounded Woodland-elf 04:51 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 04:55 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 04:57 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:05 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 05:22 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1982 points, T:4757, killed by a soldier ant 05:23 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Death, on T:47451 05:27 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 355 points, T:655, killed by falling downstairs 05:30 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4204 05:31 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 882 points, T:898, killed by a dwarf 05:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 3309 points, T:3943, killed by a wolf 05:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 492 points, T:1339, killed by an uninjured dwarf 05:58 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 16864 points, T:6128, killed by a gnome king 06:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:03 -!- stenno4 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:05 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 06:06 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1937 points, T:7443, killed by a rothe 06:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:35572 06:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:08 NetSysFire: why the hell is a role with a good skill set and decent starting equipment supposedly "unbalanced"? roles are different, and some of them are easier while others are harder, it's like that in vanilla too :P 06:09 broken and cheating 06:09 :) 06:09 also aosdict is kind of right, even playing an easy combo (e.g. ubermonk coupled with one of the easy races) thankfully doesn't result in the game becoming a complete cakewalk :) 06:11 amateurhour: secret advice members aren't as OP as you make it sound, or at least the one I'm playing feels far from OP 06:12 just waiting for you to die so I can bust out the ol' 06:12 whaaaaaaat?? how did you die?? I thought you'd easily breeze through gehennom on the uberrole secret advice member 06:12 :D 06:12 haha, you probably do not believe that I could easily own gehennom with that role! 06:13 I don't think any role can to be fair 06:13 but if there's one that can it'll be secret advice member :^) 06:13 rofl no, it'd be the monk probably 06:14 ???? 06:14 yeah monk is teh uber 06:14 they dish out a consistent 30+ damage per hit regardless of whether the game generates good weapons, because they don't need weapons! 06:14 * amateurhour quickly checks what secret advice members get 06:14 ah yeah only master martial arts 06:14 basically everyone else is stuck having to find a good weapon, whereas monks can just punch everything 06:14 lol 06:16 secret advice members get master martial arts, grandmaster gun control, master in both shoe skills, master in most spell schools and expert in a couple, expert in almost every weapon, master in all lightsaber forms 06:16 grandmaster in firearms wtf 06:17 master general combat, master most range weapons 06:17 master techniques... 06:17 the list goes on :P 06:17 so you can play them like a monk if you want (master martial arts) 06:18 or you can bust out a BFG and nuke everything 06:18 the combat skills are all nice to have and useful when maxxed out, but that takes a while, and they lack several spell schools and their weapon skills are rather average actually 06:18 also martial arts deals less damage as a non-monk 06:18 which spell schools are they missing? 06:18 I see attack, healing, divination, protection, body, occult 06:18 enchant, matter, elemental, chaos 06:19 grandmaster occult what 06:19 ? 06:19 aren't they meant to be like spies or something? 06:19 you mean because occult spells isn't in vanilla? 06:19 are they infiltrating a sect of magicians? 06:20 they're kind of spies, yes, but also versed in some of the dark arts ;) 06:22 but well, I guess if you compare their skill tree to the shoe fetishist's (Skill_Sho, directly below Skill_Sec in the source) you'd probably feel that they have a huge advantage 06:26 the omnirole 06:26 can do everything really well :P 06:26 lol 06:27 they completely lack all the sword skills for example, so Excalibur is worthless for them 06:27 excalibur is worthless to all non-knights anyway 06:27 ?? 06:27 it gives them assitis and then they die 06:27 or something 06:27 only if you create it from a fountain 06:28 can you get crowned? as in did you nerf crowning in some way that means ordinary players wouldn't get crowned? 06:29 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 06:29 well I made it so that the coronation/culmination is more rare, plus luck times out (at a slower rate) even with a luckstone, so it's harder, but still possible 06:29 oh and the crowning artifact has 20% or so chance to be the artifact it would be in vanilla, otherwise it's a random artifact :P 06:31 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:32 "Thou art chosen to steal souls for my glory! Here, have the flintlock named Gun Control Laws, which carries an ancient Morgothian curse that spreads to your other items, summons thunderlords, paralyzes you through double free action, and occasionally gets destroyed by the curse!" 06:32 okay so missing out on excalibur is literally no big deal :P 06:34 might scrape the starting stats/level up stuff/starting invent from the source and add them to tables on the wiki or something 06:34 for roles/races 06:34 because people see the giant set of combos and have no idea what they'd even like to play 06:34 try the random selection, land into the 95% of combos that are unplayable, and then quit 06:35 :P 06:35 haha 06:36 just randomed a char with my test account, would have been a turmene tracer; casual players probably indeed wouldn't get far with that one, even though it could be decent if played well 06:38 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3050 points, T:5817, killed by an uninjured fire ant 06:45 LarienTelrunya: i wasnt really 100% serious when i said its broken, considering i cant even judge this properly because i played slex one time so far 06:46 NetSysFire: haha, then you should play a secret advice member *bundlebundlebundle!* :) 06:47 you should they're OP af :^) 06:47 lol amateurhour you should play one too and try to prove their supposed OPness :D 06:47 I think once there's a page which properly lists all the race/role benefits and drawbacks it'll be easy to suggest combos 06:47 which can hopefully be done in time for junethack 06:48 is this wiki stuff? 06:48 yes but by whom? my free time is still severely limited 06:48 if only there was a handsome and brave and charming wiki person that can make properly formatted tables 06:49 * amateurhour flutters eyelashes at NetSysFire 06:49 right now i need to take care of the recent changes in the archwiki 06:58 NetSysFire: please don't let yourself be roped into updating slex stuff on nethackwiki anyway, it is an uncompletable task 06:58 ha lol 06:58 what if I dumped a load of data in improperly formatted tables 06:59 aosdict: I wish you wouldn't have sorted stuff alphabetically in commit 8b36fdafc2ff, it's such a huge pain in the butt to fish out all the new messages manually. 06:59 amateurhour: at this point I think it'd be more worthwhile to program an AI to read the slex code and create wiki articles from it automatically 06:59 hint: sortable tables sort the stuff automagically for you in mediawiki 07:00 or do it like cataclysm-dda and do it all in json 07:00 LarienTelrunya: I have no idea what you're talking about, that's neither an xnethack nor a vanilla commit 07:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 121 points, T:1100, killed by a wounded small mimic 07:01 huh? https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commit/8b36fdafc2ff1a15a10c240b0c67ad8976eb671b is in a repo named "xNetHack" by "copperwater", is that not you? 07:04 wow aosdict this copperwater guy is stealing ur game 07:05 anyway my slex run continues now with Dareen the Not-At-All-OP Secret Advice Member 07:05 :P 07:05 LarienTelrunya: why was the last ascension in slex a year ago? 07:06 NetSysFire: uhh because no one managed to win the game since then? (thank you captain obvious :D ) 07:06 not even you? 07:06 sadly not 07:07 I'm not kidding when I say that slex is a very difficult game 07:07 because two out of three people capable of ascending it stopped playing entirely and it was made too difficult for the third one :P 07:07 just kidding, I'm sure you'll ascend it again 07:07 yeah but the question is when will that be? 07:07 2024 when you make the game nicer again 07:07 :D 07:08 oh damn 07:08 of course I saved the game while wielding a lit electric cigarette, as opposed to the spear! 07:09 NetSysFire: the strategies porkman used to ascend with (with a streak as well) were removed from the game 07:09 I miss porkman :( 07:09 lol 07:11 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 07:13 I have that commit as hash 26abf2528 07:14 does slex have weather yet? 07:14 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:15 it has individual squares that are snowstorms or whatever 07:15 etc 07:15 well it has rain clouds and yeah sandstorms, snowstorms etc. on specific terrain 07:15 LarienTelrunya: try doing sed -e '/^#/ d' -e '/^$/ d' [xnethack/slex]_thing.txt | sort and diffing the two resulting files? 07:16 LarienTelrunya: when you anger your deity you should get a message like "you feel storms coming" 07:16 aosdict: err not a unix user :P also I already manually got everything out, including sorting the "true" rumors into ones that are actually true in slex too and ones that are not 07:16 haha 07:16 now let's see if I can get my cute Yvonne to steal something from the tool shop for me 07:16 stealing is wrong 07:17 who is yvonne? 07:17 lol, Onnets even has a bag of holding for sale 07:17 @le?Yvonne 07:17 Yvonne (:) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 13 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate petrification | Confers: cold | MR: 30 | Generates: unique | AC: 4 | Attacks: 3d5 weapon cold, 2d8 kick wet | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, swims, amphibious, nopoly, stalker 07:17 ^^ a boss monster who is also my char's pet :) 07:18 i am not even surprised anymore 07:18 think of a girl's name, there'll be a monster in slex that: 07:19 has that name, is a shoe belonging to that name 07:19 or an item that's an artifact belonging to that name 07:19 often not just one, but several :D 07:20 there are 8 "Juen's " monsters in slex 07:20 @le?Juen's leather peep-toe 07:20 Juen's leather peep-toe (p) | Lvl: 80 | Diff: 75 | Spd: 23 | Res: fire sleep disintegrate drain | Confers: fire sleep | MR: 100 | Generates: special | AC: -10 | Attacks: 1d20 kick paralyze, 10d20 kick physical, 7d7 gaze masterblaster, 4d15 breath fire | Alignment: -4 | Flags: omnivore, breathless, mindless, oviparous, nopoly, undead, stalker, infravisible 07:20 do you like shoes? 07:20 amateurhour: ^^ would you like to be paralyzed by that peep-toe? guaranteed game-ender, I tell you :D 07:20 does a bear catholic? 07:20 Amy I'm just gonna play as female from now on I think :P 07:21 * NetSysFire always plays as female in any variant 07:21 just because they are tougher 07:21 NetSysFire: these are some of mine https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/aaaaaimbot/72497808/11637/11637_original.jpg 07:21 in any rpg, they can just wear a chainmail bikini while the guys need to wear full plate armor 07:21 women are superior confirmed 07:22 LarienTelrunya: i will take that as a yes 07:22 lol 07:22 tell me already how gorgeous my heels in that picture are! :D 07:23 no glass slippers, collection incomplete 07:23 i cant really appreciate heels, sorry. i just walk around in my nikes 07:23 ...but why? 07:24 i am not a fancy person, i dont see the need for heels 07:24 high heels are soooooo sexy and lovely and fleecy and cuddle-soft and compassionate and tender and 200 more beautiful adjectives <3 <3 <3 07:25 also, the ones in that picture, I got the entire bunch for just 20 euros total 07:25 nice 07:25 * NetSysFire is asexual and cant see a person as "sexy" 07:25 wtf 07:25 barefoot costs 0 euros 07:26 i cant even tell if one is pretty or not lol 07:26 * NetSysFire is strange 07:26 not finding my heels sexy... that does not compute :P everyone has to find them sexy! 07:27 i am remembering the scene in tomb raider legend where you cant run and have to spend 5 minutes to get to somewhere (without any action) just because you wear high heels 07:27 there is a scene where Lara wears heels? I thought only the badgirls (i.e. the ones you have to shoot) wear heels 07:28 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:28 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 07:28 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:29 lara croft role when 07:30 LarienTelrunya: yeah where you are in japan 07:30 hang on 07:31 LarienTelrunya: https://www.wikiraider.com/index.php/Evening_Dress 07:31 awwwww cuuuuuuuuute! 07:32 but she doesn't use the pretty peep-toe high heels as a bashing weapon in the fight? 07:33 no 07:33 she takes them off to be able to run 07:33 yeah but she could wield them in her hand and whack the enemy :D 07:34 thats not slex, guns are more effective there 07:34 A practical strategy if you don't have, say, two bloody great guns and a mysteriously unlimited bullet supply 07:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 21 points, T:455, killed by a falling rock 07:35 LarienTelrunya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO0RVkKz-8M 07:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 35 points, T:220, killed by a nearly deceased sewer rat 07:39 awwwwwww it would be great if she kept using the high heels in some way 07:40 also my char just learned the resist sleep spell, I sure wish I had that IRL 07:40 ha, you can if you drink enough coffee or have insomnia 07:41 yeah but I don't take drugs, so no coffee for me 07:41 same 07:41 -!- NA0rsa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:41 when i was in high school i had a female friend (just a friend) and i had to help her up the stairs when she wore high heels lol 07:41 and she had really long nails and couldnt open her bottle of water and then she couldnt even drink because of all the lipstick 07:42 lol, when I was in high school there was a girl who often wore stilettos and she was running up and down stairs with ease 07:42 she could haul some ass with those heels too 07:42 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:44 also apparently some monster picked up the entire contents of the potion store, walked out of it and then got killed by my pet, so now all those potions are mine, including an "instant coffee potion" 07:44 wtf, when I quaffed it, it transformed into a nanika potion 07:45 lol 07:46 lol 07:46 hmm, actually two potions left in the shop 07:46 maybe the cuuuuuute Yvonne can steal them 07:46 how far are you into the game atm? 07:46 finished soko, mines and devnull 07:47 what is devnull 07:47 it was a famous nethack tournament for funsies, had some extra optional challenges 07:47 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki//dev/null/nethack_tournament#Challenges - the five challenge dungeons have been ported to slex, although the actual challenges aren't playable 07:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 1095 points, T:1139, killed by a crossbow bolt 07:54 alright, now back to nethack on alt.org 07:54 i think one wish i have for sure is the master key of thievery 07:54 The EQ Kaptain wields an i-+8 short sword {12}! 07:54 heh, he didn't drop it anyway... not that I could make good use of it without the skill anyway 07:55 hmm it says wishing for an artifact should usually be the first wish 07:55 i already have cleaver i hope it will succeed 07:56 you don't need to wish for an artifact honestly 07:56 mkot is a good choice though if you do want one 07:57 What is the "it" that says this? 07:57 !whereis NetSysFire 07:57 amateurhour: NetSysFire is not playing. 07:57 oh yeah NAO 07:57 yup 07:58 seems like the castle has another guaranteed wand of wishing? 07:58 It has a guaranteed one, but not "another" 07:58 oh yeah scratch this "another" 07:58 i just randomly found one 07:58 wish for charging scrolls if you don't have them identified yet 07:58 so i havent done the quest yet so its still not the second artifact that has been generated right? 07:59 i have charging scrolls identified. and wands of wishing 07:59 what's your wand charges? 07:59 and got any scrolls of charging on you? 08:00 i already recharged the wand once. i have two wishes left 08:00 1:1 08:00 i definitely want the master key of thievery, i decided that 08:01 maybe use the other wish on a marker and enchant all your stuff 08:01 You put a heavily cursed stone called is this an unskilled stone? into the bag called holding. 08:01 ^^ see amateurhour? bags of holding can be useful :P 08:01 how did you put that in there? 08:01 cursed stones can't go in containers? 08:01 A heavily cursed stone called is this an unskilled stone? has vanished! 08:01 I've suddenly realised that nethack distinguishes between wood and "balsa". 08:01 Which is a specific type of wood... 08:02 amateurhour: but it is safe to wish for the artifact with already one in my possession (cleaver)? 08:02 heh, it was uncursed when I put it in, but the act causes it to instantly re-curse itself and the message happens after that 08:02 there might've been an artifact you didn't know about but it should be relatively safe yeah 08:02 there's a table on the wiki for probabilities 08:03 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wish#Artifact_wishing 08:04 dammit why are there so few redirects 08:04 do i wish for "the blessed rustproof fixed erosionproof key of thievery" or is the "the" optional? 08:05 You are blasted by the magic whistle named The Whistle of the Warden's power! 08:05 amateurhour: this thing gives ESP, tele control and drain resistance when wielded, and according to you is useless. but in the upcoming 2.71 I plan to make such artifacts more useful :D 08:06 I thought the convict artifact was the iron ball of liberation 08:06 oh my god 08:06 aosdict: thank you so much for saying that, there's a big fat bug 08:06 use the iron ball to squash it! 08:07 the iron ball itself is bugged, it's aligned to PM_PRISONER even though the role is called PM_CONVICT! 08:07 so it would even blast convicts 08:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:23789 08:08 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 08:09 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 08:09 oh how so Amy? 08:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:10 by making it so that when dual-wielding, your primary hand doesn't necessarily have to wield an actual weapon, so you can dual-wield the whistle with something that can actually deal damage, and thereby reap the wielded benefits of the whistle :P 08:10 LarienTelrunya: I imagine that if you were to go and meet an actual convict and ask them how they felt when they recieved it, I would think they'd say similar. 08:11 heh 08:14 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:14 lol 08:19 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:23712 08:21 damn, wearing wedge heels without the skill (secret advice members do get high heels skill but my race specifically cannot have it) 08:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 279 points, T:696, killed by an uninjured gnome lord 08:30 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:34468 08:34 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 08:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 08:38 lol the game made a randomly generated -8 unicorn horn 08:41 is there a way to know whether it's nighttime on the server? I've run into a swarm of gremlins 08:42 it's UTC 08:42 so not night time 08:43 ah good 08:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:43 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:45 awwwwwww the game made an artifact polearm but it's cursed :( 08:45 also blasts me, i.e. unusable 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 3 points, T:90, killed by boiling potions 08:48 let me summarise that :P 08:48 artifact 08:48 unusable 08:48 :) 08:49 I'm just kidding, there are some usable artifacts :P 08:50 I wish the game wouldn't say "You stop cutting." when being interrupted while trying to melt a wall with a lightsaber-type weapon 08:53 the messages when using #force are really confusing generally 08:53 haha, you mean ones like "You fire an ammo at the farmland"? 08:53 yeah, and no indication it's working at all 08:56 man now I kinda wish my char was lawful, then I'd have the orb skill 08:56 then again, at least as a neutral I can use kamehameha 08:57 what does kamehameha do again? 08:58 is it as OP as it is in the anime 08:58 single target ranged attack that can hit an enemy up to 8 squares away, unlocked by basic claw skill 08:58 decent but certainly not OP 08:58 what sort of damage does it do? 08:59 no specific type, i.e. bypasses enemy resistances 09:00 also I'm currently on level 13, which is the one completely covered with walls, but a helpful peaceful miner is digging it all out for me :D 09:00 man that floor sucks so much 09:00 the variant of it where everything has phasing is so dangerous 09:00 it's like a big room but you can't move around 09:00 that's not a specific variant, it just happens to spawn a bunch of phasing monsters on creation 09:01 I think most of the megadanger floors in slex are where the game has randomly decided to big room you in some way 09:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:14616 09:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3232 09:02 I think the most dangerous one is that '6 room' layout 09:02 if you know which one I mean 09:02 idk what it's called or where it's from 09:03 the one where it's just a bunch of 8x8 special rooms next to each other? that's my own creation :D 09:03 yeah that 09:04 idk how you're meant to survive those normally 09:05 by using strategy, e.g. funneling those monsters through a corridor :P (yeah of course that doesn't work if the room happens to be filled with U) 09:05 <{Demo}1> had a dream last night i did a crazy zapm run that was only partially cheated 09:05 Demo you cheator :P 09:05 <{Demo}1> and i was trying to invent a new speedrun category that it would fit in that i would be the winner of 09:05 <{Demo}1> im pretty sure this is how speedrunning works 09:05 <{Demo}1> if you can't win, make up a new category 09:05 sewerskip% 09:06 <{Demo}1> like just pick a segment of the game 09:06 I had a decent zapm game the other day, about halfway through gamma caves 09:06 <{Demo}1> like fastest unix mainframe 0 dmg % 09:06 haha, in slex 2.70 I added a very theoretical possibility to skip the sewers and/or gamma caves 09:06 <{Demo}1> straight up idk what the dungeon looks like 09:06 you gotta kill the bofh to get in the mainframe :/ no pacifist route 09:07 oh how Amy? 09:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3667 09:07 amateurhour: remember how I said that banishment can now also send you to random branches? 09:07 because if I play sokosolver again I'd want to skip the sewers 09:07 oh, not feasible 09:07 play a sokosolver secretadvicemember and use the wand of banishment on yourself, hoping to get lucky *bundlebundlebundle!* 09:07 oh but, on sokosolver you can dive the bottom real quick then banish yourself 09:08 that's probs fine 09:08 good thinking 09:08 <{Demo}1> alright guys i wrote a zapm spoiler map off of memory 09:08 bundlebundlebundle :D 09:08 <{Demo}1> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/833690484253524008/unknown.png 09:08 nice art {Demo}1 09:08 looks about right 09:08 lol Demo :D https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Branches#ZAPM 09:08 sewers branch from robot town though 09:09 <{Demo}1> wait wtf 09:10 <{Demo}1> i was actually close 09:10 yeah 09:10 <{Demo}1> i just checked the wiki and that isn't even a horrible failure of a map 09:10 <{Demo}1> has all the key points in it even 09:10 yeah :P 09:12 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 09:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:14971 09:14 I wonder if any of the gehennom branches are worth doing 09:15 <{Demo}1> vlad's? 09:15 other than sheol to find vlad's 09:15 <{Demo}1> th elder priest robes? 09:16 @le?elder priest 09:16 elder priest (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire sleep shock poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: special | AC: -9 | Attacks: 2d10 weapon physical, 1d4 gaze paralyze, 2d10 tentacle amulet steal, 2d10 tentacle sticky, 2d8 cast clerical, 2d8 cast clerical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, swims, amphibious, seeinvis, nopoly, covetous, infravisible 09:16 heh, the elder priest is at the top of the yendorian tower; the branch is mandatory, but his level is not 09:16 and yeah I know I should write spoilers for the gehennom branches 09:17 <{Demo}1> amateurhour i think its a different elder priest 09:17 @le?dnethack elder priest(tm) 09:17 dnethack elder priest(TM) (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison petrification magic | Confers: nothing | MR: 100 | Generates: unique | AC: -15 | Attacks: 8d10 weapon physical, 2d4 gaze paralyze, 2d10 tentacle amulet steal, 2d10 tentacle sticky, 2d8 cast clerical, 2d8 cast clerical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, flies, swims, phases, amphibious, thick hide, seeinvis, nopoly, in 09:18 he has tentacle intrusion, decapitation, bisection, ragnarok and data delete attacks on top of that; all of those extra attacks aren't shown in the pokedex 09:18 oh and he also has homing lazer 09:18 <{Demo}1> but he is vulnerable to shoes 09:18 yeah :D 09:18 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:18 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 09:18 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:18 high heels are the elder priest's kryptonite 09:19 -!- Saxtheowl has joined #hardfought 09:21 * NetSysFire is nurse dancing 09:21 i already have 15 more max hp 09:21 Hello, does someone know how to setup ssh for dgamelaunch on an ubuntu aws instance ? 09:21 YASI: nurse dancing can result in the sexy nurses stepping on the player's toes with their sexy high-heeled nurse boots ♥ 09:24 it sounds like you just set up ssh as normal and set dgl as the login shell 09:24 but idk 09:24 Demo and/or Amy might know, or they might not 09:24 no idea, don't have an ubuntu machine here 09:25 <{Demo}1> unfortunately i do 09:25 ubuntu server ftw 09:25 update your OS to something sane, suggestion: windows xp :D 09:26 I wonder if it will work on my AWS ubuntu instance because I am already logged from ssh 09:26 ubuntu server is nice yes :) 09:26 <{Demo}1> yes, from an ssh config side it only affects one user 09:26 <{Demo}1> openssh lets you specify per user logging in config sections 09:27 <{Demo}1> so all the shit like allowing passwordless and all you'd do for the nethack user only 09:27 And any given user can log in as many times as they like 09:27 <{Demo}1> and the nethack user's default shell is just the path to the dgl binary, which if installed with the makefile should be set up properly to just work 09:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pony, on T:4981 09:28 <{Demo}1> all you really gotta really worry about to get a bare bones dgl server running 343 nao up is setting up the nethack user and adding stuff to the sshd config for him to be able to be logged into without a password 09:29 <{Demo}1> and I guess making sure you have the right packages on your system to make and install dgl 09:30 dgamelaunch and nethack 3.6.6 is running fine 09:30 I spent 2 day on it 09:30 <{Demo}1> ok nice, so setting up the nethack user for ssh is all you need to do now 09:31 <{Demo}1> just change his default shell to the path of the dgl binary 09:32 <{Demo}1> idk how to get the passwordless login for nethack user to work though, i've only ever had it work once. tried on other systems with the same config but no cigar 09:33 "passwd -d nethack" and "PermitEmptyPasswords yes" in sshd_config, or something along those lines 09:33 <{Demo}1> https://pastebin.com/raw/m55w0mTh Here is the relevant section of my sshd config on that box you can steal 09:33 <{Demo}1> I've tried that paxed but with no cigar. guess i'll try it again cause i have a spot waiting ready for it 09:34 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:35 {Demo}1: possibly need to pacify pam by adding "auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so quiet user = nethack" to /etc/pam.d/auth-common 09:35 <{Demo}1> ok thank you 09:35 <{Demo}1> that is what I kept saying i needed to do but couldn't figure out what or where 09:35 <{Demo}1> and someone kept telling me that was wrong and that pam couldn't possibly have anything to do with it 09:35 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:36 <{Demo}1> i think elronnd 09:36 *shrug* that's what i had in my notes for setting up nao 09:36 ps -aux | grep ssh 09:36 root 585 0.0 0.6 12176 6736 ? Ss Apr18 0:00 sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd -D -o AuthorizedKeysCommand /usr/share/ec2-instance-connect/eic_run_authorized_keys %u %f -o AuthorizedKeysCommandUser ec2-instance-connect [listener] 0 of 10-100 startups 09:36 root 20785 0.0 0.9 13668 9052 ? Ss 12:20 0:00 sshd: ubuntu [priv] 09:36 ubuntu 20909 0.0 0.5 13676 5216 ? S 12:20 0:00 sshd: ubuntu@pts/0 09:36 root 20948 0.0 0.9 13668 9020 ? Ss 12:30 0:00 sshd: ubuntu [priv] 09:36 ubuntu 21042 0.0 0.5 13676 5320 ? S 12:30 0:00 sshd: ubuntu@pts/1 09:36 ubuntu 21537 0.0 0.2 8160 2632 pts/1 S+ 13:32 0:00 grep --color=auto ssh 09:36 Should I learn sshd first ? 09:37 <{Demo}1> I remember needing to do something like that for my one box that it works on 09:37 <{Demo}1> saxtheowl, your sshd config is at /etc/ssh/sshd_config and you can just append the shit i sent to the end and restart the service (make sure it comes back up though, don't wanna hang yourself) 09:37 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an earth elemental, on T:11204 09:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 6345 points, T:6059, killed by a baby green dragon, while praying 09:39 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:39 okay 09:40 why doesnt it log me out when I sudo systemctl restart ssh.service 09:40 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:41 Then am I suppose to do ssh nethack@172-26-10-105 ? 09:42 it is the ip of my aws instance 09:42 You don't normally expect or want existing sessions to be killed when you restart sshd 09:42 172-26-10-105 isn't an IP address 09:43 oh wait nethack@3.66.169.207: Permission denied (publickey). 09:43 it was 3.66.169.207 09:44 You'll want to pastebin your sshd_config 09:44 <{Demo}1> do you have a user named nethack? 09:45 no, but we had to create a group named games and a user named games in the tutorial 09:45 You can't ssh anywhere as a user that doesn't exist 09:46 (tho ssh games@ ... also fails) 09:46 ugh no i am close to dying from those stupid mindflayers 09:47 phew survived 09:47 here is my ssh_config file https://pastebin.com/mZuGk0YS 09:48 Match User nethack 09:48 ... who still doesn't exist 09:49 I think we are supposed to use user games, I have used this guide for dgamelaunch https://github.com/ZacharyWyatt/Setting-Up-Nethack-3.6.6-Server 09:49 I can do it again for nethack 09:49 I mean user nethack 09:50 Saxtheowl: The point is you need to do all the configuration for the _same_ user. 09:50 <{Demo}1> wow, thanks paxed, the pamd config line works! (has to go at start of file, filename is common-auth, not auth-common) 09:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] simpleliquid (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 6942 points, T:3881, killed by a rabid rabbit 09:50 It doesn't matter if they're called "games" "nethack", or "fortunato", but pick one. 09:51 {Demo}1: maybe put it up on the wiki, if it works :) 09:52 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 852 points, T:3223, killed by a rothe 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:25562 09:54 Pinkbeast: fun fact, fortunato in the poe story was named after fortnite 09:54 poe included many sly references to fortnite in his works 09:54 the monkey in murders in the rue morgue was supposed to be a fortnite player 09:55 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 09:55 <{Demo}1> i might publish an up to date dgl docker image that uses ssh unlike the only existing one that uses telnet now that i have it all working 09:55 Pinkbeast: but people are used to ssh-ing to nethack@host so that's probably the best choice 09:55 the treasure in the gold bug was v bucks 09:55 aosdict: Also we're using "fortunato" 09:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3413 09:58 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:59 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:59 I think sshd is waiting for a pubkey thats why ssh games@3.66.169.207 09:59 games@3.66.169.207: Permission denied (publickey). 10:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Cerberus, on T:9194 10:00 Saxtheowl: the config you copypasta'd at the end is for a user called nethack, have you made that user? that's what people are saying 10:01 I have just modified the files to "games" so the user is ready 10:02 Match User games 10:02 do you have to restart sshd? guessing so 10:03 I used sudo systemctl restart ssh.service 10:05 maybe needs "PubkeyAuthentication no" in the sshd config for the nethack user 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:9470 10:07 That won't help 10:07 Nothing turns off "PasswordAuthentication no" for user "nethack" 10:07 oh yes that worked, but now it ask me for my password 10:08 <{Demo}1> oh yeah pinkbeast is right, there is a rule for everyone that they can't log in with passwords so you gotta "PasswordAuthentication yes" for user nethack 10:08 djsd100@amidships:~$ ssh nethack@3.66.169.207 10:08 Permission denied (publickey). 10:09 ... no request for a password there 10:09 it is games@3.66.169.207 10:09 And does "games" _have_ a password? What's the /etc/shadow line? 10:10 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 10:11 games:*:18459:0:99999:7::: 10:12 <{Demo}1> prepend "auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so quiet user = games" to /etc/pam.d/common-auth 10:14 how can I see into the temple? https://0x0.st/-Ath.png 10:15 it still ask for a password :/ 10:15 The wall is fake 10:16 oh yeah you're right Andrio 10:16 lets try a reboot 10:16 ^^ 10:16 Saxtheowl: Pastebin the configuration file again 10:17 <@Joanna> Holy shit its actually 18C 10:17 <@Joanna> No wonder im sweaty 10:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Con Orc Mal Cha), 2946 points, T:5140, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 10:18 here is the new one https://pastebin.com/7EfMBhbU 10:18 It went from being grey and cold to sunny and warm on my way in 10:18 <@Joanna> :o 10:19 <@Joanna> I'm walking home from the training centre for NEETs 10:19 Saxtheowl: You've explicitly set "PasswordAuthentication no" for user "games" 10:19 aoei I didn't know you were in training to become a NEET, good luck 10:19 <@Joanna> It was great. The basic course was shit but now I have this soft skills coach guy one on one paid for by the state 10:19 not to brag but I feel like it would come pretty naturally to me 10:20 <@Joanna> Teaching me how to be the best NEET i can be 10:20 <@Joanna> He's cool. For the first time I was actually motivated to go in 10:20 nice, what sort of things does he teach? what is a soft skills coach? 10:21 <@Joanna> qt ud be surprised 10:21 <@Joanna> Yea soft skills coaching mainly 10:21 <@Joanna> Tho he also works as a relationship counsellor 10:21 what is 'soft skills' though? like how to come off as friendly? 10:21 how to do job interviews? 10:21 <@Joanna> Hahahahaa 10:21 how to flirt? 10:22 <@Joanna> Well. I am bad at time management and organisational skills 10:22 Pinkbeast what am I suppose to change ? 10:22 <@Joanna> So we talked about that, but he also has lessons on non-violent/open/positive communication, conflict resolution, etc 10:22 <{Demo}1> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 10:23 <{Demo}1> spent a while troubleshooting why my dgl was broken 10:23 <{Demo}1> was pressing p trying to play nethack 10:23 Saxtheowl: uh... it's perhaps not a good idea to cargo cult your way through a security sensitive application like this 10:23 <{Demo}1> and it was doing nothing 10:23 <{Demo}1> and when i ran the actual binary outside of dgl, i see it just instasegfaults 10:23 <@Joanna> Actually a better way of phrasing it would be not that I am bad at time management and organisational skills but I have much still to learn in that area 10:24 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1503 points, T:6097, killed by a straw golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:24 aoei has he gone over using !rng do work | sleep | nethack yet or is that the advanced course 10:25 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:25 <@Joanna> Looooool 10:25 <@Joanna> We already mentioned the coin toss method 10:25 <@Joanna> Like when you get the wrong answer and then u know which one you really wanted 10:26 <@Joanna> !rng work | nethack 10:26 @Joanna: work 10:26 <@Joanna> Hell yea 10:26 <@Joanna> Beholder gets it right for once 10:28 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:24241 10:29 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 10:29 I am gonna try something else to allow ssh 10:30 <{Demo}1> ok wtf, mail is crashing my game 10:31 I have 2 files in ls ~/.ssh/ 10:31 authorized_keys known_hosts 10:32 Can it be linked ? 10:37 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Hum Fem Law), 130772 points, T:38859, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 10:37 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 10:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1614, rt[0:08:54] 10:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Kni Hum Fem Law), 523 points, T:2731, killed by a rothe 10:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3225 10:43 <{Demo}1> getpwuid() is returning null ptr and causing 343 nao to crash :( 10:45 <@Joanna> :( 10:46 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) had a runed broadsword named Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:12585 10:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:48 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 10:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2531, rt[0:18:01] 10:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 390 points, T:1142, killed by a giant leech 10:51 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2695, rt[0:20:38] 10:53 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Hum Fem Law), 849 points, T:1858, killed by a boulder 10:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 4254 points, T:4705, killed by an uninjured gnome 11:01 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4363, rt[0:29:48] 11:08 <10 min for soko, nice 11:11 [hdf-us] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 11:11 !lastgame Stella 11:11 aoei: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1614535650.seed.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1618157015.seed.html 11:12 oh huh, it might have scumfilterd that lol 11:12 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: o033I4] 11:13 <{Demo}1> ok there is no reason getpwuid(0) should be returning a null ptr 11:14 if it's consistent, recompile and log out what errno is 11:16 <{Demo}1> i am running it with gdb and am printing errorno 11:16 <{Demo}1> and getting two 11:16 <{Demo}1> which I think is EIO (I/O error) 11:16 <{Demo}1> which isn't helpful lol 11:18 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:1951, rt[0:05:33] 11:18 that's the old macdonald error I think 11:19 I think it's ENOENT isn't it? 11:19 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1454 points, T:2430, [0:06:44], quit 11:19 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 11:20 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 157 points, T:152, [0:00:38], killed by an uninjured bat 11:20 !lastgame Stella 11:20 aoei: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1614535650.seed.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1618845583.seed.html 11:20 :/ it's 403 11:21 <{Demo}1> i have no clue but ENOENT doesn't make any sense 11:21 Randomly chosen seed: hQyibECnQtkrasja6RQ7LlJnm+5wryjx+3VJl96znYs= 11:21 pog 11:22 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Hum Fem Law), 2145 points, T:3459, quit 11:22 do you have /etc/passwd etc? 11:23 <{Demo}1> yes 11:23 <{Demo}1> tried to put one inside the chroot even though that makes no sense and it didn't fix things 11:24 {Demo}1: strace-d it? 11:24 good idea 11:27 <{Demo}1> ok it is looking for libnss stuff and can't find it and isn't happy 11:27 if anyone for any reason wants to reproduce an old seed, you have to do echo -n OldSeed | base64 11:27 and put the base64 string in as teh seed 11:28 plus seeds now have to be valid base64, but you can omit padding = characters 11:28 they don't matter 11:29 <{Demo}1> it reallllly wants to read ldap users 11:29 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 11:29 ldap for nethack or dgl? :O 11:29 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:30 <{Demo}1> ldap for users (i have no ldap set up, idk why it is checking this and not my local users) 11:31 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Using Circe, the loveliest of all IRC clients] 11:32 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:33 <{Demo}1> alright so a call to getpwuid(getuid()) is returning null ptr and causing it to crash, where getuid() returns 0, so here is the relevant strace output section https://pastebin.com/raw/5iTZVu5s 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Amaryllis (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 485 points, T:1597, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 11:34 <{Demo}1> tries to open a nonexistant unix socket /var/run/nscd/socket as its first attempt at getting the pwuid info 11:35 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 11:35 Uh this is a kind of minimalist strace extract 11:36 run with -v or something? 11:36 <{Demo}1> yes, no -d 11:36 i am aslepy 11:37 i go for nap 11:37 slep gnt 11:41 <{Demo}1> the output with -d isn't anymore useful lol 11:42 <{Demo}1> all getpwuid() does is try to connect to /var/run/nscd/socket, and when that fails it seems to try reading ldap user related stuff 11:42 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 51060 points, T:25400, killed by a marilith 11:45 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:49 @v?orcus 11:49 Orcus (&) | Lvl: 66 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 85 | Generates: unique | AC: -6 | Attacks: 3d6 weapon physical, 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical, 8d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting drain str | Alignment: -20 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravisible 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Amaryllis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 168 points, T:751, killed by a deceased green mold 11:50 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:33822 11:52 <{Demo}1> trying what might be different source 11:53 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:54 -!- b93 has joined #hardfought 11:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:38994 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 19 points, T:233, killed by an uninjured goblin 12:01 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of Singhend, the former Lookout, on T:2933 12:02 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:9472, rt[1:30:54] 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:35129 12:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bartlem (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 734 points, T:1819, killed by a moderately wounded rothe 12:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:08 [hdf-us] [slshm] skwrl (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 2041 points, T:2190, killed by something while blind and helpless 12:10 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:14 oh there is an actual hardfought branch i can pull from now regarding setseed 12:14 very good 12:14 -!- stenno4 is now known as stenno 12:15 <{Demo}1> oh nice 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 420 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:36572 12:16 i ragequit my game because my gdsm +5 evaporated. i thought its safe until +6 12:16 https://github.com/k21971/setseed 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1325 points, T:3656, killed by an ape 12:16 NetSysFire: all armor apart from elven armor is safe to enchant FROM +4 12:16 oops 12:16 FROM +3 12:16 elven armor is safe to enchant FROM +5 12:16 if the value is any higher, its not save 12:16 yo NetSysFire if it happens again dw about it, there's plenty of opportunities to get another 12:16 safe 12:17 nice typing skills 12:17 <{Demo}1> gauntlets of typing 12:17 gantulets of mispealing 12:17 autocurse on worn, guarantees to mess up any engraving or writing 12:18 amateurhour: i had blue dsm (bdsm would be a bit.. strange to say) 12:18 thank u for ur contribution to the slex items list ♥♥♥ 12:18 oh no 12:18 i am sorry everyone 12:18 !tell larientelrunya Gantulets of Mispealing: Autocurse on worn, automatically messes up any engraving or writing 12:18 I'm on it, stenno. 12:18 blue is good enough if you got another MR source, but you can always revgeno gray dragons or whatever 12:19 and you hadn't done the castle yet 12:19 could have wished for one there 12:19 but still 12:19 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 12:19 heh 12:19 at least now you can start a game in the better version (3.7) 12:19 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 12:19 yeah yeah 12:19 amateurhour: you actually wish for gdsm at the castle? 12:20 all the non ascii characters render as ? for me, but I still know what it is 12:20 ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ) 12:20 its the table flip 12:20 I said I know what it is 12:20 oh 12:20 misread that 12:20 can tell just from the parentheses placement 12:20 ┻━┻ ︵┻━┻ ︵┻━┻ ︵ ¯\(ಥ益ಥ)/¯ ︵ ┻━┻︵ ┻━┻︵ ┻━┻ 12:20 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ 12:20 no, I just meant that they had plenty of ways to get a replacement 12:20 raaaaaaaaage 12:20 as a barb at least 12:21 ah ?\(???)/?, the traditional mystery man holding up a choice of two question marks 12:21 lol 12:22 praise the question mark 12:22 or maybe he's holding up scrolls 12:22 ?\[T]/? 12:24 amy i know you will read this, if the player quaffes a cursed potion of hallu there should be more character variation, including chinese ones 12:25 or terminal breaking ones lol 12:25 there are some really nasty CSI escape sequences 12:25 that would be evilll though 12:25 which can totally mess up your terminal 12:25 too evil for evilhack 12:27 crime scene investigation escape sequences? 12:27 sounds like good tv 12:27 ESC # 8 DECALN DEC screen alignment test - fill screen with 12:27 E's 12:29 ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ノ︵ ┻━┻ 12:30 i think this specific escape sequence was used when we figured out we could exploit the persistence of fruit names of bones 12:30 you pick up a bones fruit, suddenly your screen fills with E 12:31 Anyone else remember slime mold ASCII art? 12:34 uuugh 12:35 Don't poo-poo ASCII art K2 >:c 12:35 the anesthetic in my mouth wore off, i have a weird headache on the right side of my head 12:35 were you drooling? 12:35 K2: :c 12:35 had a dentist appt this morning, deep cleaning 12:35 stenno - when am I not 12:35 lmao 12:35 :P 12:35 fair, sorry :P 12:35 haha 12:35 heh 12:37 aosdict: when are you gonna get a proper terminal tho 12:37 with amazing utf8 art like the table flip 12:37 qdb implies you were not drooling immediately prior to hearing about lava gremlins 12:37 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 12:38 ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) 12:38 aoei: my end terminal is fine, there's something weird happening on the machine I run irc on 12:38 wait, i should flip the table, and then unflip it when ... oh 12:38 weird 12:39 for me mosh, tmux and weechat (on vps) play nicely with alacritty/mosh (laptop) 12:39 what's your irc box stack 12:39 i thought there was a petition or something to remove flipping 12:40 hothraxxa: xD 12:40 aoei: it's not irssi; if I run irssi locally the non ascii comes through fine 12:40 it might be tmu 12:40 tmux 12:40 huh but weechat in tmux session works fine for me 12:40 which client do you use 12:40 what's an easy way to test a non ascii character print in bash, I wanna see if I can do it outside of tmux 12:41 uhm actually i have an email somewhere with a cmd for that 12:41 gimme like a min 12:41 never mind I have one 12:42 python -c 'print("\u212b")' 12:42 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 138 points, T:952, killed by a magic missile 12:42 works in regular gnome-terminal natively 12:42 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 38 points, T:48, killed by a jackal 12:43 oh but that may not work depending on python version 12:43 printf '\x1F42F' 12:43 -!- Leficios has joined #hardfought 12:43 in bash? 12:43 nope 12:44 for shell use $'\U1F42F' 12:44 ah its U 12:44 x 1 byte, u 2 byte, U 4 byte 12:44 @v?Vlad 12:44 Vlad ~3~ xan (x) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 18 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Attacks: 1d4 sting legwound | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, flies, poisonous, infravisible 12:44 @v?Vlad the Impaler 12:44 Vlad the Impaler (V) | Lvl: 28 | Diff: 32 | Spd: 26 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: -6 | Attacks: 2d10 weapon physical, 1d12 bite level drain | Alignment: -10 | Flags: flies, breathless, regenerates, poisonous, nopoly, undead, stalker, covetous, infravisible 12:45 on my remote terminal that gives me the literal string "\u212b" 12:45 so does that mean the remote terminal is the problem? 12:45 what's $LANG ? 12:45 empty 12:45 echo -e '\xE2\x94\x8C\xE2\x94\x80\xE2\x94\x80\xE2\x94\x90' 12:45 echo -e '\x1B(0lqqk\x1B(B' 12:45 this is osme stuff SGT suggested me to try printing 12:46 when we were trying to work out mumak army problems 12:46 the top one is utf8 i think 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39986 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39988 12:46 aosdict: I have $LANG set to en_US.UTF-8 and I think before I did that I had some unicode problems, maybe that would help? 12:47 hmm that made the bash printf work 12:48 -!- aosdict_ has joined #hardfought 12:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict_] by ChanServ 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law), 428 points, T:887, killed by a wounded gnome 12:48 someone flip a table at me 12:49 no 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] arkanoid (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:4406 12:49 (╯°□°)╯︵ ʞɔɐHʇǝᴎ 12:49 ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ノ︵ ┻━┻ 12:49 did you know that paxed flipped over is paxed 12:49 ok those are definitely non ascii chars, though not all of them render 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] arkanoid (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4432 12:49 ambigram 12:49 stenno: OMG 12:49 stenno: no wonder he likes level flipping so much 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] arkanoid (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:4437 12:49 level flipping is good actually 12:49 booooo 12:49 hisssssssss 12:49 I actually like soko now that it's flipped all the time 12:49 Neko-chan: me too 12:49 i am with Neko-chan on this one 12:50 boooooooooooooo 12:50 -!- aosdict_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:50 but mostly because it gives me an opportunity to laugh at the people who can't do mental rotations easily in their mind 12:50 I like non-soko levels being flipped. 12:50 -!- aosdict_ has joined #hardfought 12:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict_] by ChanServ 12:50 hey aoei throw another table at me 12:50 (╯°□°)╯︵ ɥʇǝɯ 12:50 oops i flipped drugs at you 12:50 hmm. nope 12:50 :I 12:50 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 12:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Clk Fem Law) was given Sode no Shirayuki, on T:24768 12:51 still ???? inside tmux 12:51 grrr 12:51 -!- aosdict_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:51 why is my tmux fine and yours not 12:51 LANG is fine both in and out of tmux i assume 12:51 so that shouldn't be it 12:51 for some reason LANG is not set in my tmux session 12:51 huh 12:51 maaaaybe that could be an issue 12:52 are we voting on soko flippage? big NO over here if anyone cares 12:52 hi aoei 12:52 your input is valued rebatela 12:52 even if i disagree 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40687 12:52 also hay 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40689 12:52 what's good? 12:52 do you normally set LANG in your bashrc or something? that would be an easy fix here though I feel like it ought to be like, a system default 12:52 aosdict: i also remember having to install alacritty on my vps before things worked properly 12:53 I set it in .zshrc 12:53 btw I use zsh 12:53 because without doing that, my vps didn't understand what termcaps to use 12:53 i also use zsh and i may or may not have LANG in .zshrc 12:53 * aoei checks 12:54 -!- aosdict_ has joined #hardfought 12:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict_] by ChanServ 12:54 one more table pls 12:54 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 12:55 https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_3345b6d4-692e-4aea-ba22-07a9181a0833?wid=488&hei=488&fmt=pjpeg 12:55 ok yeah so the characters on either side of the left arm aren't rendering, but they're rendering as those square boxes with the unicode number in them, not question marks 12:55 my LANG is set inside tmux, but its only set by /etc/locale.conf as far as i can tell 12:55 stop all this table flipping right now! little bobby is getting upset 12:55 hothraxxa: :c 12:55 ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) 12:55 i put the table back 12:55 is bobby feeling better now? 12:56 which makes me think that I just don't have the full symbol set on my laptop 12:56 -!- aosdict_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:41021 12:56 Same case with me aosdict 12:56 ˙dn ʎɐʍ ʇɥƃᴉɹ ǝɥʇ sᴉ ʇɥƃn°ɟpɹɐɥ# ʍ°N 12:56 aosdict: switching to alacritty solved that for me 12:56 Alacritty? 12:56 i tried to install a billion fonts and urxvt still didn't render all the cool stuff 12:56 alakitty 12:57 I'm sure if I installed alacritty then it would just come with some font that provides it anyway 12:57 switched to alacritty, and i got every weird bit of utf8 working i could find 12:57 aosdict: maybe 12:57 brb 12:57 i also have an idea to test that 12:57 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: rebooting irssi] 12:57 stenno: apparently the 100 doge you sent me is worth like 39 USD now 12:57 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 12:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 12:58 luls 12:58 yeah it topped out at 37 euro today 12:58 tempted to change it to XMR 12:59 but i probly shudnt 12:59 have y'all been gambling on nethack?!? 12:59 not me 12:59 stenno was playing the crypto game and randomly sent me 100 doge, when 100 doge was worth about €3 13:00 nethack causes gambling addictions since you are at the rngs mercy 13:01 Any problem in using conflict in Moloch's sanctum? 13:01 i was going to buy crypto with my biden check , but that ended up not happening (bought weed/booze) 13:01 nabru: well usually conflict helps 13:01 that's what I wanted to hear 13:01 Let's try 13:01 rebatela: oh good, at least you got something useful 13:01 pinkbeast: indeed! 13:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kuge, on T:115099 13:03 nabru: if you're stealthy and nobody has woken up the graveyard yet, you might consider putting on conflict for the bit with the priests 13:03 -!- Leficios has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:41290 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:41293 13:04 gg 13:04 a conveinent cockatrice corpse made short work of killing the high priestess 13:04 *convenient 13:04 that's the best 13:05 nabru: nice 13:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] arkanoid (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "fireproof speed boots", on T:5028 13:08 [hdf-us] [un] Bartlem (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 524 points, T:1250, killed by a pony 13:17 k2: grunt crash 13:17 i should close irc and do some productive things or w/e 13:17 bbl 13:18 hothraxxa: are you doing an impression of a caveman driving a car 13:18 ugh 13:19 <{Demo}1> lol 13:19 lol 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:2920 13:21 hothraxxa recovered 13:22 some people's colors changed when I rejoined. qt is now bright blue, the magic man 13:22 you got this nabru! I believe in you 13:22 Thanks! 13:22 drop some of your rations so you aren't burdened, it's freaking me out :P 13:23 PLEASE 13:23 yep 13:23 maybe 90 rations is a bit too many for the endgame 13:23 lol 13:24 let me see what I don't need from my bag... 13:24 teleport scrolls are useless 13:24 ur useless :c 13:24 * Umbire bops 13:24 lol 13:24 also sheesh, 90? 13:24 i just mean in the planes 13:24 and I thought I was a pack rat 13:25 at least donate some to Yendorian mutual aid or what have you 13:25 unburdened \o/ 13:25 much better now 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:44666 13:26 this is the run! 13:26 hey Demo you can segfault grunthack by throwing a mirror 13:27 oh it's sigabrt 13:27 but still 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 935 points, T:3850, killed by a boulder 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:45005 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3032 13:30 <{Demo}1> it doesnt have autorecover 13:30 ah rip 13:30 <{Demo}1> or even manual recover half the time lmao 13:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Clk Fem Law) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:26992 13:30 that blows 13:30 nabru do you have a bugle or tooled horn? 13:31 I do 13:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Clk Fem Law) became the Nasu no Som, on T:27258 13:31 no free action? 13:31 nope :| 13:32 scary 13:32 any wishes left? 13:32 nope :| 13:32 you'll be arlright 13:32 yeah, you still got this! 13:33 nice! didn't know you could use a bugle to get expelled from an air elemental 13:33 it also scares them away, so you can walk and toot and be fine 13:34 me in air plane: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/025/330/trumpet.jpg 13:34 ^^ haha 13:34 :D 13:35 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 451 points, T:577, killed by a homunculus 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) murdered Bucky, his faithful little dog, on T:3373 13:37 Yeah, horns and bugles are prized for endgame for those reasons 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:45318 13:38 YAY 13:38 \o/ 13:38 switch to lifesaving if you got it 13:38 Just a moment while I pick up some water and calm down 13:38 I do, I think 13:38 thanks k2 13:38 immediately crashed again :( 13:39 it'll be okay, I saw you have a lot of tele wands, you got death wands, you got life saving 13:39 you got potions 13:39 you can do it!! 13:39 this one's the run! 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:45347 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:45394 13:43 rude Famine 13:43 nabru had the door already 13:43 lol 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed tromix's ghost, the former Adept, on T:3682 13:44 trying to not get overwhelmed here 13:45 Can see that 13:45 esp. dangerous with Famine laying dead nearby 13:45 nabru as long as you don't teleport a rider or their corpse, wand of tele is epic here 13:45 xans are such assholes 13:45 good to know amateurhour 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by uninjured Famine), on T:45448 13:46 oh snap 13:46 Goddamnit! 13:46 (also there's at least one Yendorian army monster on the level) 13:46 nabru hol up 13:47 get another lifesaving on and get a potion or two out 13:47 Already did 13:47 heal yourself at least 13:47 I thought nabru already put on another lifesaving 13:47 I put another LS 13:47 oh right, phew 13:47 first time astral is always really intense :) 13:47 Yeah but at least one potion should be at the ready 13:47 And yeah I can attest to that 13:47 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 560 points, T:1447, killed by a little dog 13:47 oh has nabru never ascended before? 13:47 nope 13:47 u can teleport all that shit 13:47 oh man, you got this nabru 13:48 Not the right altar? 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine (5 times), on T:45490 13:48 Umbire: apparently not 13:48 need to visit the altar to know for sure 13:48 +1 for wand of tele 13:48 yeah you have to go to the altar to check it 13:48 you can't tell from a distance 13:48 zap wand of tele here nabru 13:48 <@luxidream> xans undertael 13:48 let's see 13:48 <@luxidream> go nabru! 13:48 wait nabru have you never ascended? 13:48 aosdict: nope 13:48 Well that should clear a path 13:48 :y 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by uninjured Famine), on T:45514 13:49 eep 13:49 omg this is tense 13:49 Jesus, Famine is giving 'em fits 13:49 qt: right? 13:49 and you can go around things instead of killing them, if you wanna save time 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4165 13:50 i was just gonna say. sometimes going diagonal is the way 13:50 zap wand of death at famine if you got one out 13:50 It was a priestess of Odin that intoned, right? 13:50 : to check the altar 13:50 Loki :| 13:50 d;oh 13:50 Oh even worse 13:50 definitely got no wishes? 13:51 Umbire: high priests don't intone their identity, they just say "the high priest[ess] intones:" 13:51 angel's fallen 13:51 aosdict: ah. could've sworn I saw 13:51 there was a random priest(ess) of odin by the door 13:51 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:38, killed by a jackal 13:51 but not the high priest 13:51 well they might say who it is after you have inspected their altar 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1437180 points, T:45579, killed by wounded Pestilence (with the Amulet) 13:52 full healing cures termill 13:52 rip 13:52 Panicked 13:52 nooo :( 13:52 :| 13:52 F 13:52 yep 13:52 splat 13:52 from rip to splat! 13:52 <@luxidream> F 13:52 nice game nabru 13:52 noo :( 13:52 you did really well 13:52 yeah that was so close 13:52 was gonna say, you want to whip out the wand of teleport here but then things started happening fast 13:52 Thanks! At least I learned a bunch of things 13:52 if you had been luckier with the altar you'd have gotten it 13:52 that was a great attempt though 13:52 next time will be better 13:52 true qt 13:52 :) 13:52 hothraxxa game recovered, this time i have a coredump 13:53 ok thanks again 13:53 crashed again 13:53 you'll get it before long nabru 13:53 first time astral splats are not at all uncommon btw 13:53 ^ 13:53 you could have escaped... you kept playing 13:53 i am about to lose some valuable ground here i think 13:53 how bout you stop trying to load the game if its going to crash immediately upon load up :) 13:53 its a super high tension area 13:53 well you said recovered amirite? 13:53 or what is it called? celestial disgrace? 13:53 i did... 13:54 when you ascend on wrong altar 13:54 i've done that 13:54 nabru you definitely got it next time for sure 13:54 (thanks bhaak) 13:54 i've done it by accident! 13:54 really easy to do in unnethack 13:55 bt is junk 13:55 nabru: on astral, use lots of teleport to clear your path. have some taming for those mobs of insects. 13:55 what's it got in it K2? 13:56 nothing 13:56 hothraxxa: nice ideas 13:56 also what are you compiling it with 13:56 same as the rest 13:56 maybe slap in -g3 or something 13:56 stenno: so you mean that you should have shock resistance before going there? 13:57 nabru: you can get out of a mob by breaking a wand of teleport, just be careful there's no rider or its corpse nearby 13:57 ^ 13:57 hothraxxa try now 13:57 k 13:57 may be back a bit 13:57 it is. i wonder how far 13:58 <@luxidream> !lastgame nabru 13:58 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1618782048.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1605872855.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 13:58 oh crap. a fair bit :( 13:59 that'll learn ya to crash the game 13:59 all my sacrificing lost 13:59 (gdb) bt 13:59 #0 0x00007f0d682f6e97 in __bsd_signal (sig=, handler=) at ../sysdeps/posix/signal.c:47 13:59 #1 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () 13:59 (gdb) 13:59 ^ bt 13:59 :| 14:00 the trick is to not get bogged down. always try to keep going because the rider is gonna keep coming back, and then once there are 2 of them you are done 14:00 indded 14:00 *indeed 14:01 and remember, thinking takes 0 turns 14:01 you can sometimes do a ring around the temple 14:01 I usually say this to be corny but every move genuinely counts on Astral 14:01 get the rider stuck chasing you around it while you outpace them 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 570 points, T:1102, killed by an uninjured gnome 14:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:10333 14:02 Somehow forgot I was neutral 6_9 14:03 :| 14:03 aosdict: i dont get it re: 14:03 a curse upon your sword 14:03 shock resistance 14:03 oh i see now 14:03 i get it now 14:03 :) 14:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:04 nbd, really, just need to get some holy water to uncurse this thing with 14:07 !booze 14:07 * Beholder tosses nabru a tumbler of the hard stuff, prayed over by Announcy at 90 degrees Celsius. 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 295 points, T:660, killed by an uninjured invisible dwarf queen 14:09 stenno: have you succeeded in logging items for setseed? if not, you can take inspiration from this https://github.com/UnNetHack/UnNetHack/commit/d86b79fdc659c690739b85608e62cb625f5d563f 14:09 fun fact. in an unnethack game, level creation accounts for about 6000 items. 14:10 wut/ 14:10 I think it's Adeon that was interested in doing it bhaak 14:10 stenno just wanted to find seeds that had a wow in dlvl 1 14:10 nah it was me 14:10 well 14:10 yeah I have my recording project 14:10 to be worked 14:10 some day 14:10 I designed it 14:10 just haven't written any code 14:10 well yeah, i wanted to look at items and then quit the game 14:10 but I have a markdown file on my computer detailing all the shit 14:11 so if I go back to it three months later I can recall details from mah document 14:11 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1650 points, T:1405, killed by a rothe 14:11 shit.md 14:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Toxophilite (Ran Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3073 14:11 yes 14:11 shit.md 14:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Toxophilite (Ran Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3174 14:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Toxophilite (Ran Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:3175 14:13 stenno: there's also a nethack_level_statistics branch that is doimg about the same on vanilla. not completely uptodate though 14:13 noted 14:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Toxophilite (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3240 14:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] Toxophilite (Ran Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 darts on an altar, on T:3244 14:15 Toxophilite definition is - a person fond of or expert at archery. 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 9595 points, T:5510, quit 14:15 that's a new word for me! 14:15 sounds like a person fond of poisons 14:15 i thought someone aroused by poison 14:15 zing 14:16 wasn't there this tumblr post about the difference between poisonous and toxic 14:17 oh it was poisonous vs. venomous 14:18 Ah, I know that one. Technically, "venom" is delivered to an enemy when the venemous monster takes some action (such as biting); whereas "poison" can mean that the corpse is poisonous to eat. 14:18 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 240 points, T:426, killed by a bat 14:18 Some nerd really likes their theme naming 14:18 Though in popular usage, the word "poison" is _also_ often used for venom; a "poisonous snake" is usually venemous. 14:19 Hi Adeon 14:19 jonadab: the o in venom doesn't turn into an e when you use it as an adjective 14:19 Err, yes. 14:19 hello Umbire 14:19 venomous. 14:19 <@luxidream> vehennom 14:19 <@luxidream> vehumet 14:19 Oh dear. 14:20 vehennom 14:20 it's green 14:20 What have I started. 14:20 everything is poison 14:20 every demon lord is juiblex 14:20 amulet of vendor 14:20 it's also all green swamp 14:20 smells bad 14:20 mosquitos 14:20 and snakes 14:20 blinded constantly by cobra 14:20 "amulet of vendor" tries to sell you things? 14:20 Oh, man, dire mosquitos. There is a monster NetHack does not need. 14:20 instead of mazes you can't walk fast anywhere because you are in swamp unless you levitate 14:20 <@luxidream> every @ is medusa in case you got there without reflection 14:20 if you levitate you are constantly confused and stunned from noxious swamp gases 14:21 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:21 nabru: No, no, the amulet of vendor is what you need if you want to become a shopkeeper. 14:21 Alternate ending. 14:21 <@luxidream> Adeon: you need the half gas damage from a wet towel 14:21 yes 14:21 is this going into acehack2 14:21 You need a room with exactly one entrance, which is lockable, objects for every tile, a key, a certain amount of gold, and the amulet of vendor. 14:23 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:23 sounds like a sewers branch 14:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Sir Garland, on T:12763 14:24 <@luxidream> aosdict added a sewer level as a really annoying mines end variant with sea monsters 14:24 <@luxidream> At least it has jelly figurines though, saves you a wish later on 14:24 jelly figurines? 14:25 <@luxidream> yeah, they are a great wish 14:25 <@luxidream> You can use them to block corridors 14:25 I didn't think they were wish worthy 14:25 yeah I figured that was the use 14:25 <@luxidream> ... 14:25 just didn't occur to me that people wished for it 14:25 lol 14:25 not that I don't think it's a great idea 14:25 it's a truly elite strategy luxidream 14:26 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:26 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 14:26 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:27 I mean, what would it take to fill up Astral with tame jellies? 14:27 And can you swap places with them unimpeded? 14:27 <@luxidream> if you get it tame, you can even displace your jelly when you are ready to fight again 14:28 <@luxidream> Probably a lot 14:28 ye, that's novel 14:28 sewer, the orctown of mines end 14:28 sounds like a bug 14:28 can the riders displace them now? 14:28 not yet 14:29 new endgame strat: blue/spotted rain 14:29 ominous 14:29 :B 14:29 <@luxidream> can’t displace tame monsters? 14:29 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) had a mace bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:13288 14:29 well blue and spotted jellies are sessile 14:29 so they "shouldn't" be able to be displaces 14:29 displaced* 14:29 thats why you should wish for ydsm 14:29 revgeno jellies/puddings in astral plane 14:29 <@luxidream> you can displace tame sessile monsters 14:29 for spotted jelly revgeno strat 14:30 The rule (on displacing sessiles) should be the same for Riders as for the player. Since technically the player is a Rider. 14:30 there's been enough negative feedback about the sewers that I may have to revamp or remove it. sorry jonadab it just hasn't been a popular level 14:30 jonadab: shh, spoilers 14:30 I wonder if it would work to get rid of the Riders' corpses 14:30 it would not 14:30 there are a few ways to get rid of rider corpses 14:30 dunno if those were considered bugs 14:30 and have been fixed 14:31 I don't know if they're bugs, but they tend to be exploits of extreme situations, like completely full level. 14:31 not bugs 14:31 clogging up the place so they have no space to res is an old strat 14:32 getting rid by eating the rider corpse, to be precise 14:32 done with confused create monster scrolls 14:32 oh lol no that doesn't work at all 14:32 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) had a mace bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:13332 14:32 corpses can't be eaten or tinned, trying the former kills you 14:32 there was a way to do it in 3.4.3 at least 14:32 how many maces does anhur think i need? 14:32 I think you had to do it by engulfing the live Rider? 14:32 And there were issues with surviving that. 14:32 enough to Belmont it 14:32 obviously 14:32 Which I don't remember in precise detail. 14:32 jonadab: yep, something like that 14:33 with life saving 14:33 oslt 14:34 old school lifepro tip 14:34 the player didn't start acting like a rider until they finally became able to displace peacefuls 14:34 now we just need a funky melee touch and a pile of aols 14:35 funky melee touch sounds like a great attack style 14:35 Accumulating the pile of amulets can safely be left as an exercise for the enerprising player. 14:35 *t 14:35 your funky melee touch drives the demon to dance! 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Hum Fem Law), 715 points, T:1163, killed by a giant mosquito, while sleeping 14:35 YANI: Reaching the Astral Plane while crowned and having stellar alignment grants rewards you with gloves that grant an additional touch/weapon attack. 14:36 As War, shouldn't your touch cause conflict? 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Mal Cha), 16 points, T:4, killed by a bear trap 14:36 But only if you do it bare-handed. 14:36 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 14:36 monk op 14:37 if you wear a silver ring and no gloves and punch a vampire or demon, you do actually do silver damage 14:37 wielding a silver wand too 14:38 Yes, this would be along those lines. You have to forego weapon damage when doing it, and pay attention to enemies that are not safe to touch. 14:38 but _not_ a silver spellbook 14:38 A silver spellbook isn't made of silver; it's just silver-colored. 14:38 Silver gloves when 14:38 yep 14:39 which is kinda 14:39 i mean what color is silver 14:39 like chrome? 14:39 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 14:39 "silver" is a standard name for a color in English. And yes, the color of chrome, pretty much. 14:39 A shiny gray ofc 14:39 herald color 14:39 oh herald color 14:39 silver isn't usually shiny like chrome 14:39 among 3 cul de gras split 14:39 silver metal is usually green, unless you polish it. 14:39 idk what i am talking about 14:40 I mean it is lustrous, but not as much 14:40 Dark green, even. 14:40 heraldic terminology is so funny 14:40 Ugly. 14:40 I can't believe silver spellbooks aren't made of silver 14:40 it would be punny if they were 14:40 They're made of paper. 14:40 I Can't Believe It's Not Silver! 14:40 i can't believe its not silver 14:40 damn 14:41 jinx buy K2 a coke 14:41 "Parkay!" 14:41 YANI: silver spellbooks are actually made from silver 14:41 my debt is erased 14:41 green spellbook is made out of copper arsenite. don't lick it. 14:41 second time today 14:41 when #lick extended command? 14:42 How many licks does it take to get to the chewy center of a cockatrice corpse? 14:42 "One..." The world may never know. 14:43 hehe 14:43 'at least one' 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 24 points, T:437, killed by an uninjured kobold 14:46 I estimate it at 3000 licks through science 14:46 firstly I named my fruit 'lollipop', and checked how long it takes to consume 14:46 1 turn 14:47 then I checked how long it takes to consume a cockatrice corpse 14:47 3 turns 14:47 then I found this: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150205095046.htm 14:47 approx 1000 licks for a standard lollipop 14:48 ...wait, why a cockatrice specifically? 14:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed the Nightmare, on T:13462 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3843 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3877 14:54 a little bit of zero budget science and the channel died, soz lol 14:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:13713 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2340 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3580 14:59 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 7175 points, T:13650, killed by a Grey-elf 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 10007 points, T:2713, killed by a watchman 15:00 BREAKING NEWS: lawful Samurai goes postal and starts a murder spree on Minetown! 15:01 Umbire: There used to be an advertising campiagn for Tootsie Roll Pops, wherein you could never find out how many licks it took to get to the middle, because the owl would always bite in after three licks. 15:02 In the case of the cockatrice corpse, turning to stone takes the place of getting impatient and biting. 15:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:5807 15:02 But the effect is much the same: you never find out how many licks it would've taken. 15:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:13999 15:05 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3481 15:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 570364 points, T:37962, killed by a Cuprilach Rilmani, while frozen by a potion 15:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Clk Fem Law) killed the invisible Grue, on T:29447 15:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Toxophilite (Ran Hum Fem Neu) destroyed ezion's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:5761 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8397 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:4913 15:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5453 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:5453 15:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:11986 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed shadowrider38's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:5487 15:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Yeenoghu, on T:63470 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:6086 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:4769 15:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:14489 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 734 points, T:6268, killed by an uninjured gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:9470 15:31 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 480941 points, T:45617, killed by a minotaur 15:31 ouch luxor 15:31 !lastgame luxor 15:31 amateurhour: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1618721843.slashem.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/luxor/slashem/dumplog/1546152249.slashem.txt 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:13376 15:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] Toxophilite (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6800 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 284 points, T:885, killed by a nearly deceased giant bat 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10395 15:40 <@princessSpicycat> minotaurs slap 15:40 they slap u ded 15:41 YANI: The Tsurugi of Muramasa should grant access to additional "techniques" for a Samurai based on their skill in two-handed swords. 15:41 Other ways to make it not suck but may as well start with that 15:42 <{Demo}1> if it had a 50% bisect chance i bet ppl would use it 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:15668 15:48 Umbire: other artifacts shoul grant skills, too imo 15:48 like the heart of ahriman lets the barb rage 15:48 That'd be more intrinsic to the role than anything 15:49 besides, that's a whole other tin of w 15:49 atm I just want the Tsurugi to not be shit 15:49 I wonder what dnh does with it 15:50 I... 15:50 actually don't know, I should ask 15:50 HEY @RIKER WHERE YOU AT 15:50 2x damage, automatic searching and luck, still got 10% bisect chance, and is bloodthirsty like stormbringer 15:50 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Vam Mal Cha), 194 points, T:224, killed by a dwarf 15:51 <{Demo}1> when does 3.7 drop? 15:51 is there a spirit that lets you one-handed wield a 2h weapon? I bet that'd be epic with the tsurugi 15:52 It's 5% Ammy 15:52 10% in dnh 15:52 o 15:52 you said "still" like it always had it :B 15:52 yeah I brain farted heh 15:52 Also yeah, the bloodthirst is lore-accurate 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:63682 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:63683 15:53 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Vam Mal Cha), 518 points, T:527, killed by a kobold lord, while fainted from lack of food 15:56 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Vam Mal Cha), 431 points, T:515, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 15:57 Umbire, doesn't feel particularly lawful though 15:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dart on an altar, on T:3284 15:58 Perhaps not, but then what can you do 15:58 NetHack lets lawfuls do a lot of not-particularly lawful stuff anyhow 15:59 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muramasa#Cultural_significance 15:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3373 15:59 an alternative is to replace the tsurugi with something completely different 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7020 15:59 always an option ofc 15:59 I prefer to work with what's there first before going to that though 16:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3675 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19474 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1843 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13908 16:13 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Vam Mal Cha), 1377 points, T:2272, killed by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 16:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 502 points, T:2482, killed by a magic missile 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:21406 16:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 217 points, T:190, killed by an uninjured killer bee 16:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25157 16:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Clk Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:35866 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2128 points, T:2098, killed by an uninjured giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:22 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4696 points, T:8214, killed by a wounded wolf 16:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] blutkampfer (Val Dop Fem Neu), 1140 points, T:1257, killed by a small mimic, while helpless 16:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1409 16:29 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1048 points, T:2119, killed by a wounded watchman 16:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a lemure, on T:26126 16:38 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:38 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:38 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 16:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 159826 points, T:26668, killed by a heavily wounded minotaur 16:39 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: Quit] 16:39 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 16:39 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 16:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 430 points, T:767, poisoned by a little dart 16:40 ... 16:40 rip 16:40 rip 16:40 <{Demo}1> im gonna speedrun 16:40 gl 16:41 oof that astral splat nabru rip 16:42 at least I can say I have a splat 16:42 :c 16:42 i mean 16:42 i've had plenty of astral splats 16:42 so dont feel 2 bad 16:43 happens to all of us 16:43 buuut it does suck tho 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "The Master Key of Thievery", on T:22630 16:44 * Pinkbeast whistles 16:44 Pinkbeast: hi thar 16:44 I have one post-Castle death 16:44 how many ascensions do you have 16:45 Possibly slightly fewer than you :-) 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 110 points, T:229, killed by an uninjured fox 16:45 * aoei checks 16:45 25 16:45 That arc I had facing down Demo on mobile was a splat in all-but name 16:45 i still have fewer than 100 16:45 s/all-but/all but 16:46 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 16:46 c corpse accident in Rodney's Tower 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiterer, on T:23272 16:46 (That's in vanilla; I have a Spork Sanctum splat). 16:46 Pinkbeast: I've tried to eat Rider brains on astral 16:47 you'd think i'd have learnt my lesson the first time 16:47 but i've died to that thrice 16:47 mmm, brains 16:47 <{Demo}1> why is the seed base64??? 16:47 I must have mentioned dying twice to the same c corpse 16:47 Just ask to borrow their thinking caps 16:47 <{Demo}1> i want unicode rtl override character in my seed tyvm 16:47 don't need to pick their brains 16:48 {Demo}1 because infinigon_ had it saving them with this \x03 escape sequences in the dumplog and xlogfiles if it was a random seed 16:48 and it was uggers as fuck 16:48 so i changed it to save them as base64 instead 16:48 {Demo}1: if you want to reproduce an old seed do echo -n RedNaga | base64 16:49 or base64 encode the actual thingmy 16:50 <{Demo}1> aoei i stole ur config 16:50 <{Demo}1> but deleted the curses 16:50 okej 16:50 wait which 16:50 i have like a million alts 16:50 <{Demo}1> the account named aoei 16:50 ah 16:50 lately i use Stella more but aoei is a pretty good rcfile too 16:51 Stella is the one that won races and stuff so maybe steal that one in case there's magic hax cheatcodes in it 16:51 if you delete the curses you have to add some swear words in comments {Demo}1 16:51 i have a few qol things in Stella that are more geared to realtime speedrunning 16:51 to balance out the amount of curses 16:51 amateurhour: xD 16:51 <{Demo}1> give and take 16:51 Can also steal from mine 16:51 you gonna try sokomines Demo? 16:51 <{Demo}1> no 16:51 <{Demo}1> im not a runner 16:51 <{Demo}1> i got bored and quit 16:51 lol 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Ran Orc Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:25759 16:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:14932 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Cen Fem Neu), 18448 points, T:6026, killed by an owlbear 17:02 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 17:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 6309 points, T:5426, killed by a moderately wounded rothe, while fainted from lack of food 17:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:16632 17:08 -!- FootoftheHare has joined #hardfought 17:09 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:09 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 8148 points, T:5459, quit 17:10 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: Quit] 17:12 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 17:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 17:16 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 58508 points, T:17783, burned by molten lava 17:25 [hdf-eu] [sp] nytka (Sam Orc Mal Neu), 787 points, T:924, killed by a ya 17:28 Getting so nervous! This is such a good run 17:32 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 17:33 !whereis FootoftheHare 17:33 qt: [hdf-us] FootoftheHare [slshm]: No details available 17:34 is it a magic lamp you have FootoftheHare? or just an oil lamp? 17:34 nooo 17:34 bummer FootoftheHare :( 17:35 Wait was someone watching me lol 17:35 yeah I was watching briefly because you said it was a good run 17:35 I thought I had poison resistance 17:35 So confused 17:36 Ahh well always next time 17:37 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Val Dwa Fem Law), 70585 points, T:14515, poisoned by an orcish dagger 17:37 What's the safest way to get posion resistance? Like 3/5 deaths were poison 17:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:64417 17:39 Same as usual but also more 17:39 Hmm shriekers huh? I've eaten so many 17:40 There's other sources lol 17:40 can also try to ID the ring/amulet 17:40 wear an apron 17:40 etc. 17:41 Yeah, I had like 10 IDed rings that run but no poison resistance, it almost makes me want to go Barbarian 17:42 k2: recover grunt please 17:42 this is the same circumstances as last time, so you'll probably have to revert 17:42 dang hothraxxa what keeps happening? 17:42 to crash it I mean 17:43 apparently grunt throws an impossible when i try to murder a shopkeeper 17:43 the ultimate murder penalty 17:43 perhaps even worse than losing telepathy 17:43 no the ultimate murder penalty would be a panic 17:43 Yendorian political correctness gone mad, clearly 17:44 fortunately this time i won't lose as much progress 17:44 i think it is a panic aosdict, the game crashes 17:44 well then it shouldn't be called an impossible :) 17:44 iitc it says imposible called an impossible 17:44 +s 17:44 iirc 17:44 sheesh 17:45 impossible-induced panic 17:45 <{Demo}1> imp ossible 17:45 and then k2 says bt sucks 17:45 who's bt 17:46 <{Demo}1> hoth's crash's 17:46 <{Demo}1> that was a good joke lol 17:47 hothraxxa was it just a regular shopkeeper or izchak? 17:47 a regular guy 17:47 dgoddard took out izchak with a c corpse. i'm carrying his shiled of reflection in his memory 17:47 k 17:48 actually he called me scum. maybe not such a regular guy 17:49 was that because he is racist? 17:49 i think he might be 17:49 :( 17:49 I think that is what causes shopkeepers to insult you in evilhack 17:49 racists are mean 17:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Bar Dro Mal Cha), 484 points, T:941, killed by a brown mold 17:49 Shopkeepers insult you in vanilla 17:50 they do? 17:50 if low cha 17:50 Usually when you've stolen or damaged something 17:50 Nah, it's not CHA-based 17:50 oh. sure 17:50 or I'd be hearing it a lot more 17:50 i thought they called you ugly 17:50 is ugly for smth else 17:50 You're thinking of mirrors 17:50 no that's just you spicyCebolla 17:50 rude. 17:50 don't bully spicyCebolla 17:51 xnh (and I think 3.7 also?) changes "ugly" to "homely" 17:51 * spicyCebolla walks into rooms warts-first 17:51 frggyCebolla 17:51 froggy* 17:51 frogs are cute tho so 17:51 not at all a bad thing 17:51 the fragile frog 17:51 and fwiw charisma isn't entirely physical-based either 17:51 even in earliest D&D I think? 17:52 that's K2's side project btw https://evilhack.itch.io/the-fragile-frog-conflict 17:52 aka the fragile froc 17:52 I wish I could play it, it sounds great 17:53 Umbire: where did you get that idea about xnh 17:54 homely is just a different tier than ugly I think 17:54 so both times hothraxxa, you attacked shopkeeper with stormbringer? 17:54 yes 17:54 or just the latest? 17:55 ok 17:55 game is recovered but its the emergency save so it may crash on load 17:55 let's see 17:55 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 435 points, T:381, killed by a kitten 17:55 it did 17:55 'impossible called impossible' 17:55 Ya know that always happens, I have a good run and completely forget how to play 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 427 points, T:1539, killed by a wounded giant bat 17:56 hothraxxa, game recovered from last save, 1 hour old 17:56 thank you 17:56 no prob 17:57 game in progress destroy old game :( 17:57 try to refrain from using stormbringer whilst killing shopkeepers until i have a chance to maybe figure this one out 17:57 aosdict: I applied a mirror towards myself 17:57 I THINK while in xnh 17:57 hothraxxa answer no, get out completely 17:57 might've been local 3.6.6 though 17:57 Moment 17:57 anyway it's a misconception that xnh changed that 17:57 i'm out 17:58 well i actually did use it to kill the last guy. i saved right before i hit him though 17:58 xnh says "plain" 17:58 ok good to go 17:58 thanks 17:58 forgot to clear the .0 file 17:58 Umbire: there are just different levels now. it goes "hideous" -> "ugly" -> "homely" -> "plain" -> "cute" -> and so on... 17:58 with my 9 CHA valk 17:58 qt: oic 17:58 that's from vanilla 17:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:59 hothraxxa i'll be away for a bit, making dinner, family craziness 18:00 ok. i'll try not to crash 18:00 dont crash :) 18:00 <{Demo}1> grunt try not to crash challenge 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 711 points, T:1435, killed by a wounded golden naga hatchling 18:01 why does beautiful() consider "winsome" and "amiable" to be gendered terms (female and male respectively) 18:02 <{Demo}1> flavor? idk 18:04 shopkeeped deceased 18:04 er 18:04 shopkeeper 18:05 shopkeeped deceaser 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:9448 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3237 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1663 points, T:3702, killed by a killer bee 18:15 qt: I like how if my hulking grizzled barbarian, hair and beard matted with dirt and the blood of a thousand monsters, with charisma 12, looks in a mirror, he finds himself "cute" 18:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Kni Hum Mal Law), 258 points, T:512, killed by a small mimic 18:17 he sounds like a qt 18:18 [hdf-us] [gh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 641 points, T:840, killed by a kraken 18:19 A kraken sheesh 18:20 aosdict: in my current xnh game I've come across two different bones levels, but neither one is marked on #overview. they just say "a grave" 18:21 aren't they unmarked on #overview in vanilla, until end of game? 18:21 No 18:21 are they? i thought they became marked as soon as you actually saw them with your own eyes 18:21 ^ 18:22 Might be the epitaph thing 18:22 or in wizard mode 18:22 Nah, I've seen it all the time in normal games 18:22 In vanilla they usually generate a headstone if possible and note the final resting place on the overview 18:23 Name, character stuff, and what killed them 18:23 xnh has the epitaph system so idk if/how that figures into this any 18:23 custom epitaph doesn't affect that system 18:24 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:18381 18:25 qt: hm, well I went and made bones, then went back in and saw the bones, and entered explore mode 18:25 link to the insults? 18:25 i mean the shopkeeper ones 18:25 hmmm 18:25 i need them for science 18:25 and it still shows up as the final resting place of wizard 18:25 yeah aosdict I haven't been able to reproduce it locally either 18:25 I think it's happened to me in vanilla too so it may be a vanilla bug 18:25 [hdf-us] [gh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4051 points, T:749, killed by a rothe 18:26 maybe it has something to do with exactly what circumstances cause the grave to be considered "seen"? 18:26 Maybe 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1902 18:26 like the grave won't be marked if you see it as soon as you enter the level, or if there's a boulder on top of it when you first see it, or some weird edge case like that 18:27 or it's the grave from a previous bones and the last deceased didn't get a grave 18:28 ok I went in, loaded the bones level in wizard mode in a place I couldn't see the grave, ^X shows nothing, entered explore mode, went to find the grave, it now shows in overview 18:28 bhaak: struct cemetery is a linked list, it ought to preserve all bones 18:28 also you don't have to specifically see a grave 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:11708 18:29 in the dumplog, it should always show 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed BifphWombat's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2272 18:34 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law), 3405850 points, T:47505, ascended 18:34 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/xnethack/dumplog/1617612898.xnh.html 18:35 <{Demo}1> i might not be a heavy hitter in jnh this year 18:43 that's okay. we don't value you for your ascension skills 18:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 4976 points, T:1824, killed by a watch captain 18:43 I was polymorphed into a Demon 18:43 Gah 18:43 Try again 18:43 into which one? 18:44 ahh fun times when i accidentally polymorphed my kitten into a marilith 18:44 I was a marilith 18:44 Until the silver saber laid me out 18:45 yeah, you have to plan for the captain if you're gonna deal with the watch in combat at any point 18:45 Yeah I mean I was a level 8 doppel monk 18:45 I didn't think I needed a plan lol 18:46 I thought oh, humans I'll exercise my wisdom on this altar 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:3920 18:48 -!- b93 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:49 killing "always peaceful" monsters is also a big alignment hit regardless 18:49 Wait even if I'm chaotic? And a demon? 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:12491 18:51 !tell aoei check open tnnt PRs 2moro 18:51 aoei shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aoei. 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 6677 points, T:4304, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 18:53 Yes, the alignment hit is separate from murder penalties (which chaotics don't have) 18:56 !coffee 18:56 * Beholder throws nabru a cup of Blend 43, acquired by Announcy at 184 Kelvin. 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Leggman's ghost, the former Brigand, on T:13266 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 27846 points, T:13267, burned by molten lava 18:59 <@Shadow_Rider> wtf 18:59 <@nabru> rip 18:59 <@nabru> !lastgame shadowrider38 18:59 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/nethack/dumplog/1618803618.nh.html 18:59 <@Shadow_Rider> check the game 18:59 <@Shadow_Rider> ye 18:59 <@Shadow_Rider> there might be a ghost train there 19:01 blundered into the lava without spotting it eh? 19:01 (the prev. players, not necessarily faulting you) 19:01 <@Shadow_Rider> lol i suppose 19:01 <@Shadow_Rider> they are pretty uncommon id think 19:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 331 points, T:2507, killed by a critically wounded giant bat 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 5355 points, T:3804, killed by a watchman 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Kni Hum Fem Law), 180 points, T:636, killed by a riding accident 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a darkwood staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:913 19:28 [hdf-us] [un] simpleliquid (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Singhend, the former Pillager, on T:3617 19:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 306 points, T:1763, killed by uninjured Juiblex 19:28 [hdf-us] [un] simpleliquid (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Singhend, the former Conjurer, on T:3626 19:35 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 13701 points, T:7417, poisoned by Juiblex 19:35 Hmm 19:35 !lastgame footofthehare 19:35 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/F/FootoftheHare/slashem/dumplog/1618872291.slashem.txt 19:36 How did juiblex appear that early? 19:36 Bones/water demon/same-race sacrifice into oopsie 19:36 Well, ya see, I was polymorphed into a Marilith and my mariliths killed the watch for me 19:36 /combinations thereof 19:37 So I sacrificed the watch summoning the Juiblex 19:37 and then u goofed 19:37 that's how it usually goes 19:37 Everything was fine until I started hallucinating when a black light exploded and attacked it 19:37 So it engulfed me so I turned into a basilisk thinking that would salvage the situation 19:38 oh yeah no, lmfao 19:38 Not sure what I could have turned into inside that thing not to die at level 8 19:38 Juiblex is acidic and you have the terminal illness to contend with 19:38 Just use a unicorn horn 19:38 4Head 19:38 (this is actual advice tho) 19:39 Huh I had one too 19:39 cure sickness also works and doesn't risk failing at 0% like a blessed uni can 19:39 unihorn* 19:39 wand of digging can speed things along too 19:39 Well I had like two of those options 19:39 I gotta stop camping at the temple with a doppel monk. It's why I hate doppel monk, you get cocky and think you can handle anything 19:40 just stop being cocky, that's how you get stoned 19:40 huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue--- 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 508 points, T:3061, killed by an uninjured hobbit 19:40 * Umbire is pulled off stage by a giant cane 19:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 1189 points, T:1600, killed by a Grey-elf 19:42 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 121 points, T:124, killed by an orcish spear 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 7 points, T:193, killed by a magic missile 19:43 huehuehuetotl 19:43 qxehxcehiqhzihceiottol 19:43 aoei: Message from aoei at 2021-04-19 18:51 EDT: check open tnnt PRs 2moro 19:44 ... crpa 19:44 !tell aoei check open tnnt PRs 2moro 19:44 Will do, aoei! 19:44 -!- FootoftheHare has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3095 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3167 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by consulting with the priestess of Poseidon, on T:3175 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth falconry gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2370 19:46 <@Joanna> !rng reign | knives out 19:46 @Joanna: knives out 19:46 <{Demo}1> u drink reign? 19:46 <@Joanna> no i drank gin with tonics in it 19:47 <@Joanna> reign is a track by UNKLE 19:47 <@Joanna> knives out is a track by radiohead 19:48 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 19:48 <{Demo}1> imma listen to brand new lol 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 802 points, T:1683, killed by a slightly wounded large dog called Allie 19:53 <@Joanna> no u wil listen to radiohead and u will love it >:C 19:54 <{Demo}1> science fiction is the paranoid android of the 2010s 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 100 points, T:1297, killed by an uninjured small mimic 19:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3819 19:56 <{Demo}1> also tonic has way too much sugar in it 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:3921 19:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1808 points, T:3908, killed by a seriously wounded hallucinogen-distorted rothe 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2008 19:57 it does? 19:57 aoei: Message from aoei at 2021-04-19 19:44 EDT: check open tnnt PRs 2moro 19:57 oh ffs 19:57 ok i give up on using !tell for this purpose 19:57 wat if i remove the sugar 20:02 Demo: doesn't sugar just mean u have to eat less 20:02 convenient no? 20:06 <{Demo}1> if u remove the sugar from tonic itll taste bad 20:06 ok but what about the second point 20:06 <{Demo}1> uhh i dont do points 20:06 <{Demo}1> sorry 20:06 02:02 Demo: doesn't sugar just mean u have to eat less 20:06 cuz calories 20:06 get ur calories from gintonic 20:07 solved 20:07 <{Demo}1> idk what ur kgs is but im guessing its too many so less is better 20:07 <{Demo}1> too few* 20:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:10 i havent weighed myself in a long time but probably no more than 75kg / 180cm 20:11 i have put on a bit of pandemic fat but im not overly concerned about my weight at this time 20:14 dare i ask ur stats 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1586 20:22 I've probably gained a lot of weight in this pandemic 20:23 :| 20:23 i definitely gained a bit 20:23 but not horibly 20:23 i go for walks a lot just to stay sane 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4563 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4686 20:30 <{Demo}1> idk what my stats are in ur language lemme check 20:31 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:31 <{Demo}1> 71 kg/186 cm 20:31 <{Demo}1> trying to get more kg 20:31 sounds ok 20:32 ah ok 20:32 i have no weight goals currently 20:32 i wouldnt mind losing some fat and gaining some muscle 20:32 but im basically happy 20:32 lol 20:32 <{Demo}1> actively lifting 3 times a week just need to be eating more 20:33 fair 20:33 <{Demo}1> hit the point where my weight quit going up for free 20:33 <{Demo}1> went up 20 lbs for free since october tho 20:33 not bad 20:33 i havent lifted in ages lol 20:33 :< 20:33 but when i did i didnt gain any weight 20:33 i just lost fat and got more toned 20:34 <{Demo}1> well i was quite underweight 20:34 ah ok 20:38 Demo have u considered eating more food 20:39 <{Demo}1> im trying 20:39 <{Demo}1> sometimes 20:39 lol 20:39 i tend ot gain weight when i drink more alcohol 20:39 but im not sure this is really recommended 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6992 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 18652 points, T:7000, killed by a wounded Green-elf 20:41 rip 20:42 !lastgame nabru 20:42 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1618875606.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1605872855.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 20:42 hwo died 20:50 -!- hollywood-vishnu has joined #hardfought 20:55 are darts from traps always greased? 20:55 also hey everyone 20:55 hi there hollywood-vishnu 20:55 no 20:55 would you like ur buns buttered 20:55 long time no see :) 20:55 <@luxidream> why are we here 20:55 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/833868454922551306/unknown.png 20:55 <@luxidream> just to suffer 20:55 lux: oof 20:55 how did you get a greased dart? 20:56 by disarming dart traps, aosdict 20:56 darts slip outta your hands 20:56 you mean they're not actually greased, but just placed on the floor? 20:58 idk what you mean aosdict , whenever i try throwing a dart i got from a dart trap there's a small chance they slip out of my hands or go in a random direction 20:58 they're cursed 20:58 if they were greased they'd say so 20:59 ah word, thanks 20:59 tourist has been pretty fun so far 20:59 aoei: alcohol massively increases my appetite; not sure if that's just me or if that's how it is in general 20:59 I used to be very skinny 20:59 then I moved to america 21:00 <{Demo}1> hahaha 21:00 Adeon: no its not just u 21:00 GABAergics increase appetite in general 21:00 at worst I was at 95kg/181cm 21:00 and alcohol fucks with ur metabolism 21:00 I went on diet 21:00 got to ~75kg 21:00 pandemic hit, gained some weight back 21:00 now I am at around 84kg 21:00 yes but ur stil a qt so its ok 21:00 <{Demo}1> i wanna be 80 kg 21:00 <{Demo}1> and eventually maybe more 21:00 you want some srs muscle or what 21:01 <{Demo}1> just normal muscle build 21:01 I used to be something like 60kg at 180cm 21:01 Adeon: i was 60kg/180cm once but that was very skinny 21:01 the doctor said you should not be super skinny 21:01 and possibly not helathy 21:03 <{Demo}1> in america i think the doctors lie to get you fat 21:03 <{Demo}1> idk 21:03 <{Demo}1> i hate doctors, they are like lawyers 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 182 points, T:993, killed by a slightly wounded large mimic 21:06 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:06 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:13 <@nabru> I am probably 90 kg/174 cm. Before the pandemic I was 80 kg 21:13 <{Demo}1> i lost weight after the pandemic 21:14 <{Demo}1> but since october have been gaining well 21:15 i was almost 80kg/180cm pre-pandemic while drinking too much beer/too often 21:15 i'm 76kg/183cm 21:15 i've lost 10kg since the pandemic 21:15 its interesting that some ppl gain and some lose 21:16 under these pandemic conditions 21:17 -!- qt has quit [Quit: goodnight] 21:18 <{Demo}1> loss and gain is the same 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gnome corpse, on T:4344 21:18 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:24 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 21:28 i lost and gained 21:29 you all made me do lbs to kg and inches to cm conversion hah 21:30 <{Demo}1> yeah it made me sad too 21:30 i need to stop eating pizza and lose 20 lbs 21:32 I need to start eating pizza because pizza is delicious 21:32 I have a serious problem with never buying food from restaurants 21:33 I need to stop eating burgers, pizza, candy etc... 21:33 i gotta stop snacking between meals 21:33 i just find myself doing it 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:6803 21:34 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:35 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:41 lol k2 21:41 pizza is great 21:41 i need 2 remmeber to boil my beans 2moro 21:41 and sum rice 21:41 I want pizza now 21:41 and then put them in tortilla wraps 21:41 thank you for suggestions 21:41 can always diet after pandemic 21:42 Adeon: HENLO HASBEEN 21:42 henlo u stinky speedrunning hasbeen 21:42 I don't know what that means 21:42 it's a foreign language 21:42 go beat luxi wr ugly 21:42 no judging 21:42 Adeon: i heard some nobody beat you in a nethack race 21:42 dont u feel ashamed 21:42 no judging 21:43 Adeon: at one point i saw ur deaths and wrote # lol get rekt Adeon :D 21:43 i clipped it on twitch but im 2 lazy to find the thing 21:44 tbf it was fun tho 21:44 but you must train 21:44 before you race the great luxidream 21:44 I saw blinded by the sun shining from behind me on monitor so I could not play optimally 21:44 it was cold that day and my feet and bones were cold and it was distracting 21:44 o yes ofc 21:44 the enviroment was non-optimal 21:44 it was not your fault 21:44 there wasn't enough milk in my coffee 21:45 D: 21:45 thats the worst error!!!! 21:45 how r u in general tho, whats good in ur life 21:45 besides earning teh big silicon bucks 21:45 life is pretty much set yes 21:45 kewl 21:46 im still working on this beginning a career thing 21:46 current goal is to not needing to work anymore 21:46 its harder than i anticipated :c 21:46 but I still have to 21:46 yeah that is not nice 21:46 america needs to get on the silicon standard 21:46 silicon based currency 21:46 Adeon: at least hte german government pays dudes to coach me on soft skils 21:46 <{Demo}1> ordered a shinobi tex keyboard hope i like it 21:47 okay yeah your government cares about your people 21:47 finland too but I ain't there 21:47 Adeon: i heard the US government gives about -5 shits 21:47 possibly less 21:47 well they care a bit 21:47 i dont remember exact figures 21:47 they give stimulus checks 21:47 im not german but the govt still cares about m 21:47 cuz i lived here for some time already 21:47 if I ever have to get welfare they'll kick me out 21:47 oof 21:47 I'm not supposed to do that as an immigrant 21:48 or well I think they would have to drag me to immigration court 21:48 something something "lower than was promise and some clerical shit meant some people had to return the fucking money" 21:48 the UK probably would help me (a natural citizen) less than the german govt do 21:48 lol 21:48 I think this is unlikely unless I actually do something like murder people and get convicted 21:48 i get more support here than i would back home 21:48 <{Demo}1> adeon r u gonna get ur citizenship when it becomes possible or do u have to renounce eu shit? 21:48 dual-citizenship is allowed 21:48 <{Demo}1> nice 21:48 unsure if I want it 21:48 * aoei would try to get a german citizenship when elligible 21:48 eligible 21:48 w/e 21:48 <{Demo}1> it sound useful 21:48 i can't have dual 21:48 but 21:48 <{Demo}1> if i could be a us and eu citizen i would be 21:48 fuck british citizenship anyway 21:48 <{Demo}1> always play as many hands as possible 21:48 yeah isn't germany one of those who don't like dual-citizen ship 21:49 Adeon: why would i want brit one tho 21:49 its shit now 21:49 they fucked it up 21:49 with this brexit trash 21:49 altho 21:49 aren't you loyal to your mayonnaise the queen 21:49 Adeon: i have to think about some things 21:49 because its possible i may want to move to Canadia one day if i can find a good career move there 21:49 canada immigration is much easier than US immigration 21:50 <{Demo}1> id live in canada 21:50 and as a commonwealth country the brit citizenship remains useful 21:50 BUT 21:50 <{Demo}1> way rather live in canada than a lot of places 21:50 i dont know 21:50 it depends on a lot of things 21:50 like 21:50 yeah like idk 21:50 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:50 changing citizenship or moving to somewhere like canada or w/e wouldn't be a decision to take lightly 21:51 not really keen on going back to the UK 21:51 ill say that 21:51 one of my coworkers thought living in san francisco sucked and moved to germany 21:51 why not aoei ? 21:51 hollywood-vishnu: idk 21:51 partly its just a thing in my gut 21:51 i wanted to leave since 2012 or so 21:51 and then i did 21:51 and i have no intentions of returning 21:53 my sister moved to london 6 months ago 21:53 and thinks it's best ever 21:56 idk i find london stressful 21:57 -!- hollywood-vishnu has quit [Quit: cya] 21:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Garland, on T:16752 22:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) destroyed Chaos, on T:16770 22:07 -!- hollywood-vishnu has joined #hardfought 22:12 -!- hollywood-vishnu has quit [Client Quit] 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed for the first time, on T:3347 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Ran Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3347 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2825 22:28 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4265 22:36 [hdf-us] [fh] Dazaria (dazmax) (Hea Gno Fem Neu) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:2959 22:52 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Ran Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5731 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 398 points, T:2808, killed by an uninjured hill orc, while sleeping 23:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) was given their Quest, on T:18391 23:21 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:39 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 23:49 [hdf-us] [un] simpleliquid (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Singhend, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6660 23:57 [hdf-us] [un] simpleliquid (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4903 points, T:7190, killed by a mumak