00:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 1832 points, T:1945, killed by something while blind 00:02 [hdf-us] [fh] fives (kelvin) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the ghost of ale, the former Evoker, on T:1847 00:03 ah good old credit cloning 00:03 I don't remember the last time I bothered 00:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Sam Hum Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:3097, rt[0:25:15] 00:03 <{Demo}1> credit clowning 00:07 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3366, rt[0:29:10] 00:07 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 238 points, T:1123, killed by a gas spore's explosion 00:10 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:44007 00:10 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 415 points, T:426, killed by a hobbit 00:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] simpleliquid (Sam Hum Mal Law), 237 points, T:229, killed by a small mimic 00:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 722 points, T:681, killed by a gnome lord 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh343] simpleliquid (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2326 points, T:1494, killed by a rothe 00:20 -!- Agrius has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:43713 00:24 -!- Agrius has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43842 00:26 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5471, rt[0:48:24] 00:28 -!- Agrius has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 00:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 406 points, T:1655, killed by a moderately wounded wererat 00:34 Sure do love being cornered by my own pet and forced to take an infected bite 00:35 -!- Agrius has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:44781 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44785 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:44909 00:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 7917 points, T:3214, killed by an ettin mummy 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:44986 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:44988 00:40 -!- Agrius has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 00:41 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:41 [hdf-us] [fh] fives (kelvin) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the wizard of kel, the former Evoker, on T:3539 00:42 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 00:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13130 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:46521 00:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 1920 points, T:2017, killed by a little dog 00:54 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 8 points, T:24, killed by a sewer rat 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:46767 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:46774 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1732052 points, T:46787, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/nethack/dumplog/1618581701.nh.html 00:57 GG 01:07 GG! 01:07 !who 01:07 K2: [hdf-us] aximili [xnh] Umbire [xnh] ezion [xnh] Agrius [spl] luxor [slshm] dbanethacker [evil] Adeon [seed] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] PeachMuffin [un] 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:14871 01:10 Updating soon? 01:11 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 01:13 [hdf-us] [spl] Agrius (Val Dwa Nbn Law), 500 points, T:1493, defeated by a giant ant 01:14 I accidentally killed a rat 01:14 rip pacifist 01:15 my pacifist got to last level of sokoban and I probably would have finished it 01:16 [hdf-us] [spl] Agrius (Val Dwa Fem Law), 29 points, T:59, slain by a water moccasin 01:24 -!- Kougyoku has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:26 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:27 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 01:34 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Val Hum Fem Law), 1678 points, T:2549, killed by a fire ant, while praying 01:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1376 points, T:2625, killed by a crossbow bolt 01:34 unwise play there 01:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 4 points, T:56, killed by kicking a tree 01:35 No luck with drops there 01:42 [hdf-us] [spl] Agrius (Val Dwa Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1552 01:52 -!- crankyCat has quit [Quit: crankyCat] 01:59 where was the setseed repo again? Can't find it because i am dumb 02:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Agrius (Val Dwa Nbn Law), 834 points, T:2381, killed by a soldier ant 02:25 found it 02:25 that took a very long time 02:29 -!- Agrius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:43 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:03 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 03:05 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:43, on T:44913 03:06 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44922 03:07 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:14 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:45087 03:23 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:45323 03:24 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:45329 03:48 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:46926 03:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:00 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Quit: spicyCebolla] 04:19 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 04:31 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 04:51 Adeon: henlo 04:51 henlo you STINKY SPEEDRUNNER 04:51 go fetch an amulet ugly 04:53 stenno2: i can send you my fork too 04:53 incase you wanna check out the base64 changes i made 04:56 stenno2: git@gitlab.com:aoeixsz4/nh-setseed.git setseed-hdf branch 04:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 cloak of protection", on T:38648 05:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 86 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39159 05:12 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:2351 05:13 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:47276 05:15 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed chickatrice corpse", on T:47279 05:16 -!- hardfought has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:39397 05:17 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:47303 05:18 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of High Priest, on T:47312 05:19 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:47352 05:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 25 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39735 05:29 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:31 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:34 -!- Lymia has quit [Quit: Hugs~ <3] 05:35 -!- Lymia has joined #hardfought 05:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:55811 05:36 \o/ 05:39 great 05:40 i should really try out evilhack with infidel one time. it looks really interesting. and evil 05:41 mobileuser: woot 05:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:40219 06:02 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:02 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 06:02 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:28 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 06:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:25314 06:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 1447 points, T:2410, killed by an uninjured housecat 06:53 alright so this time the purple h is really a dwarf king and not a mindflayer 06:54 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2313 points, T:2592, killed by a wand 06:55 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 07:00 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:01 alright i want you to admire my stupidity 07:01 i identified a blessed scroll (i found out via an altar that its blessed) by reading it and it was a scroll of charging 07:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41528 07:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41561 07:10 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 07:11 NetSysFire: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/nhid.html is still nearly all good 07:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2330 07:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Hea Dwa Fem Neu), 178 points, T:628, killed by a hobbit 07:38 <@Joanna> Morning Pinkbeast 07:38 <@Joanna> I am having Bavarian breakfast. Or something close to that 07:38 <@Joanna> Brezel, weissbier, but I have the wrong type of sausage, couldn't find weisswurst 07:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 296 points, T:1009, killed by a giant spider 07:44 I haven't reached the point of coffee yet :-/ 07:44 (however, I am on Zot:2 with 6 runes) 07:44 <@Joanna> ;o 07:44 <@Joanna> Is that good? 07:45 <@Joanna> I have no clue how dcss works 07:45 "You smite the vampire lord! The vampire lord turns to flee. The vampire lord is hit by a rock! The vampire lord is destroyed!" 07:45 <@Joanna> I managed coffee an hour or so ago before going for my walk 07:45 <@Joanna> But i only slept from 6am to 9am 07:45 Well, conveniently the Realm of Zot has 5 levels, so, as it were, the second Plane. (Except you have to get the MacGuffin out, not deliver it to the final level) 07:45 <@Joanna> Ohhh i see 07:46 <@Joanna> Well, best of luck 07:46 You need 3 runes to enter the Realm of Zot; additional ones offer you opportunities to show off, gain skills and stuff, and get killed. 07:47 <@Joanna> Yeah I'm vaguely aware that you can do 15-rune or something to really show off 07:47 I've done a 15-runer but these days I tend to hold it to "at least one extended rune" and any others that look easy-ish 07:48 <@Joanna> If you enter zot with 15 do you get thoroughly dunked on unless very well prepared? 07:49 ("extended" - in approximate order of nastiness, they come as [whichever two of Snake/Spider and Swamp/Shoals are in your game] [Abyss/Vaults/Slime] [4 from the Hells and 5 from Pandaemonium] [Tomb] and the righthand 10 are "extended") 07:49 Oh, no - if you survived getting extra ones and didn't burn through more consumables than you found, you're in better shape. But Zot is never trivial. 07:49 <@Joanna> Ah okay 07:50 <@Joanna> It's more that the process of getting all fifteen is risky 07:50 And you've got to get the Orb out of the dungeon while assorted nasties spawn on you (I wonder where Linley Henzell got that idea?) 07:50 <@Joanna> Seems extremely novel to me 07:50 <@Joanna> Creative game dev, bravo 07:51 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:51 Linley Crawl is full of unconsidered NetHackisms - he set out to write a new game, but NetHack was what he knew. It's very like a NetHack variant from an alternative universe 07:52 <@Joanna> Roguelikes be that way 07:52 <@Joanna> I believe brogue has a similar mcguffin 07:53 <@Joanna> Not sure if it's an amulet 07:53 <@Joanna> It might be 07:53 <@Joanna> Probably some roguelikes break with this tradition, but I have no idea which ones they are 07:54 Well, there's a bunch of "go and kill XYZ" ones - Moria/Angband, POWDER, DoomRL etc 07:54 <@Joanna> Ahhhh 07:54 Omega wants you to become the ultimate Omegan Adept but I never did figure out how 07:55 <@Joanna> The only Moria descent I've been particularly interested in was Sil-Q, which does have a macguffin 07:55 <@Joanna> I haven't beat it tho, just reached somewhere about mid-way to deepest dungeon depth 07:55 <@Joanna> And got killed by a dragon 07:56 <@Joanna> Dragons in Sil-Q are a lot more dangerous than the nethack ones 07:56 <@Joanna> I woke one up cuz I tried to steal its treasure pile 07:56 <@Joanna> It had a paralysing gaze attack 07:56 <@Joanna> I had no chance 07:57 <@Joanna> Tried to run away but once it was awake rip me 07:58 <@Joanna> NetHack dragons are a joke lol 07:58 Angband and its derivatives are notorious for "It breathes. You die! --More--" 07:58 <@Joanna> Hahaha shit 07:58 <@Joanna> I respect it tho. Dragons should be a force to be reckoned with 07:58 Crawl is also in the "dangerous monsters" camp :-) 07:58 <@Joanna> NetHack shits on the mythology 07:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42183 07:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42193 07:59 <@Joanna> Even without reflection they're rarely dangerous by the time you encounter them 08:00 This is symptomatic of the general problem that at some point (maybe quite early if you're, say, a valk) you have most of the dungeon ahead of you and the next dangerous monster you see will be Rodney 08:00 <@Joanna> Yeah 08:01 <@Joanna> Nethack suffers badly from the lategame being a snoozefest unless you do weird conducts or speedrunning 08:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:42202 08:02 Zot:4 08:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Croesus, on T:56881 08:02 <@Joanna> Which is why I pretty much just speedrun nethack these days, either tc or rt 08:02 <@Joanna> Both fun 08:02 <@Joanna> Also pog 08:02 <@Joanna> Did you say zot had five levels 08:02 I'm in awe of the DCSS speedrunners who are pushing the 15-minute mark 08:02 <@Joanna> That's nuts lol 08:03 Yes. Z:5 is significantly nastier than the other 4 08:03 <@Joanna> Idk the game but 15min for any roguelike seems insane 08:03 I can probably dig up the current record run 08:03 <@Joanna> Have you tried Sil-Q 08:04 No - I've only played vanilla Angband, which I never used to like but around 3.3 I got a win which I rather enjoyed, partly down to changes in the game but also in play orthodoxy 08:04 <@Joanna> I wasn't too sure about angband, may have tried once 08:05 <@Joanna> Sil-Q was intensely scary 08:05 <@Joanna> Because it employs mindepth to keep you moving deeper 08:05 (Also I'm with http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Qazlal_Stormbringer who... is a bit of a mixed blessing god-wise, and in particular turning up on Z:5 yelling HERE I AM will not be helpful) 08:05 <@Joanna> And monster difficulty ramps fast 08:05 <@Joanna> If you don't spend xp wisely monsters quickly outpace you 08:05 Vanilla Angband doesn't, but much of the change in orthodoxy was to realise grinding forever at "safe" depths wasn't actually helpful 08:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3708 08:06 Oh, like the low-Con nethack trap where gaining levels makes monsters nastier more than it makes you robust 08:07 <@Joanna> Yeah. But you have like a complex skill and attribute system to spend xp on 08:07 <@Joanna> And some monsters are really scary/dangerous as you get deeper 08:07 <@Joanna> Ghosts are invisible and cast a field of dark 08:07 <@Joanna> And are actually dangerous to boot 08:08 <@Joanna> The tension and fear never abated at any depth I reached 08:08 <@Joanna> AntiGulp beat it once 08:08 Reminds me of doing DoomRL Angel of 100 (and DoomRL more generally) 08:08 <@Joanna> And said that was the case throughout the whole run 08:08 <@Joanna> It never stopped being scary, death always near 08:09 <@Joanna> I hafta play it again some time 08:09 <@Joanna> But it's also somewhat intimidating for being that scary 08:09 <@Joanna> Oh and the monster AI is actually good 08:09 <@Joanna> Unlike nethack 08:09 Eh, at least you're allowed to stop and ponder :-) 08:09 <@Joanna> Which as we all know has some of the dumbest mon AI of all roguelikes 08:10 <@Joanna> Lol true 08:10 <@Joanna> But i am impatient woman 08:10 I know Angband experimented with monster AI improvements but it turns out to be a bad idea in a game where you fight hordes 08:10 <@Joanna> Sil-Q monsters are good at staying away from choke points 08:11 <@Joanna> And projectile LOS 08:11 <@Joanna> Hoards try to lure you out of corridors to flank you 08:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42383 08:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:42384 08:12 The thing vanilla Angband tried had hordes would distribute themselves around the walls of big rooms. This was too good an improvement in that it would just kill you. 08:13 <@Joanna> Speaking of projectile LOS, I could be wrong but afaik NetHack is the only roguelike with the bizarre rule that projectiles and rays/wand attacks etc. Can only be aimed in cardinal and intercardinal directions 08:13 Not counting Hack and Rogue? 08:13 <@Joanna> Eh OK fine those too 08:13 Omega might have been like that, I forget. 08:13 <@Joanna> But that's where NH got it from 08:14 I don't think it's so much a "rule" as that that's much easier to implement. (But it does fix the problem of being shot by two dozen monsters at once...) 08:14 <@Joanna> Dunno if nobody could be arsed to fix it or the DevTeam believe it is somehow good 08:14 <@Joanna> Well yes it is obviously easy 08:14 <@Joanna> But still absolutely daft and nonsensical 08:15 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:15 I don't remember minding it much, NetHack is so abstract it doesn't bother me; and it makes for some curious gameplay like lining up unicorns 08:15 <@Joanna> Yea that's true 08:15 <@Joanna> I tend not to think about it except when I play other roguelikes 08:16 <@Joanna> And then im like lol nh dumb 08:17 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Kebabable TIL 08:17 It doesn't help that monsters are trivial and you can't Tab away anyway, so you usually might as well just run up to them and hit them 08:17 <@Joanna> Did u win yet 08:18 No, I'm getting to the point of clearing Zot:4 08:18 <@Joanna> Ah ok 08:18 I don't always clear Zot, but with QAZLAL I'm probably going to _fight_ everything on Z:1-4 anyway so I might as well have its stuff 08:19 <@Joanna> oic 08:19 Noise matters a lot, and QAZLAL is _very_ loud 08:19 <@Joanna> kill those monsters good and dead 08:20 <@Joanna> weather over here is lovely 08:20 Mmmm. The downside is this does increase the ways I can get killed 08:20 <@Joanna> what's the bridge like 08:20 I could pretend I've looked outside today 08:20 <@Joanna> Hahaha 08:21 Once I get to Z:5 I'll make coffee and I'll report back on the outside 08:22 <@Joanna> Ok im gonna hold u to that 08:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2681 08:24 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 08:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4519 08:28 Right, coffee time 08:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Hea Dwa Fem Neu), 828 points, T:3910, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 08:30 [hdf-us] [spl] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3605 08:32 <@Joanna> This is the outside world over here. There's green stuff, as u can see 08:32 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/833318993070260274/20210418_143138.jpg 08:33 [hdf-us] [spl] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 3287 points, T:4022, offed by a watchman 08:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:43841 08:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a water troll, on T:21956 08:39 Dry, chilly, pretty nice cycling weather 08:40 <@Joanna> Not bad 08:40 <@Joanna> Its only 14C here but lying in the sun it feels really warm 08:41 There's green stuff but it's less organised 08:42 <@Joanna> I framed the shot deceptively tho, its actually a raised bank of green alongside a main road, and nearby are freight docks choc with shipping containers 08:42 * Pinkbeast kills the first orb of fire 08:43 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6928 points, T:4104, killed by an uninjured giant spider, while frozen by a trap 08:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Kni Hum Mal Law), 602 points, T:1260, killed by becoming a döner kebab 08:44 I remember in Switzerland we'd see the beautiful vistas from the brochure which usually omitted to point out that because everything in Switzerland is close together, if you turned around, you'd see eg a nuclear power plant 08:45 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3900 08:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:44111 08:51 <@Joanna> Haha 08:52 To the Orb vault (half of Z:5, I dunno, like the Sanctum) 08:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:44141 08:54 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 08:55 Second orb of fire 08:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1803010 points, T:44163, ascended 08:56 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Graznop/nethack/dumplog/1617731974.nh.html 08:57 (and the third) 08:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Cav Dwa Fem Neu), 1009 points, T:1688, killed by a gold golem 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2089 09:00 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 37104 points, T:18912, killed by a gnomish mage, while scared 09:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5357 09:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5428 09:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:6531 09:06 * Pinkbeast sees the Orb and fights OOFs four and five (and also if this is annoying anyone, given it's only really for Joanna, let me know...) 09:08 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3789 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3789 09:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:6563 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3146 09:12 <@Joanna> Lol 09:13 <@Joanna> Oof makes me think orb of fate 09:13 PS I'm out of Zot altogether and into Depths 09:13 <@Joanna> :o 09:13 Like that, except it takes hitpoints away 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:3193 09:17 <@Joanna> Ok but did u win 09:18 I dunno yet, I'm on Dungeon:2 09:18 I've fought one pandemonium lord and run away from one 09:20 ... ys 09:21 http://crawl.montres.org.uk/morgue/damerell/morgue-damerell-20210418-132000.txt 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:3815 09:22 ... came surprisingly close to getting collected on Dungeon:1 09:25 <@Joanna> Ok but did u win the prev game 09:25 Ha! 09:25 I've had three 2-streaks, but this win came after a dozen losses or more 09:25 After winning every species and god, I'm playing random combos, which doesn't help 09:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Pri Gia Mal Neu), 1223 points, T:2325, killed by an orcish arrow 09:29 <@Joanna> Fair play 09:29 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:30 21 splats between this win and the last one 09:34 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:5121 09:36 <@Joanna> Last Sunday I beat the notorious Adeon in a nethack race 09:36 <@Joanna> Didn't splat once 09:38 I also didn't splat at NetHack last Sunday, guess I'm an expert too ;-) 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5916 09:41 :) 09:41 morning all 09:41 Afternoon 09:42 <{Demo}1> morning 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6218 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:6364 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:6370 09:46 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Sam Gia Mal Law), 871 points, T:1492, killed by a giant ant 09:50 <@Joanna> I saw a "luxiderp is typing" but then social anxiety got the better of him, poor lad 09:51 <@Joanna> Also morning k2 09:51 <@Joanna> How are ya 09:51 good 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:6917 09:51 you? 09:51 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:52 <@luxidream> zzz 09:52 zzz 09:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Inf Hum Fem Una), 404 points, T:459, killed by an enormous rat 09:53 <@Joanna> Lazy ppl 09:53 zruty invasion 09:53 <@Joanna> I've been awake for hours already 09:54 <@Joanna> Otoh i am day drinking on the grass in the sun and chatting to friends on the phone 09:54 <@Joanna> So maybe i shouldn't accuse others of laziness 09:54 hi Joanna *herzchenschmüschel* ♥! 09:54 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54 <@Joanna> Hey Amy :) 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2483 09:55 <@Joanna> How r u 09:55 <@Joanna> bundles amy 09:55 sleep-deprived, but otherwise ok 09:55 <@Joanna> Lol same i slept for 3 h 09:55 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 09:55 <@Joanna> 6am to 9am 09:55 mmmmmmm! such a dear bundle <3 had an appointment with the barber today, now I have a "hedgehog bundle" 09:55 <@Joanna> :o 09:55 haha I slept from midnight to 3 AM 09:56 <@Joanna> Short-haired lesbians are cute 09:56 :D 09:56 <@Joanna> Lesbians in hats are also cute 09:57 lesbians are very fleecy ;) 09:57 <@Joanna> How do u know 09:57 <@Joanna> Are you gay 09:57 haha 09:57 <@Joanna> is too gay to function 09:58 in my fanfics, most female characters are at least part time lesbians, probably because I'm projecting myself onto them :P 09:59 <@Joanna> Occupational hazard 09:59 wait a minute does this mean i don't have a chance with either of you? 09:59 <@Joanna> No hothraxxa im not full gay 09:59 hothraxxa: with me it depends on what shoes you're wearing ;) 09:59 <@Joanna> I like dudes too 10:00 <@Joanna> But it depends what u mean by chance cuz when it comes to romantic attraction it's only ever happened to me with one dude 10:01 <@Joanna> With some other things dudes are also interesting 10:01 man this greek chocolate cookie that my roommate gave me is very tasty but doesn't give enough nutrition 10:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Tou Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1262 10:02 <@Joanna> Sounds tasty 10:03 it is :) 10:03 <@Joanna> Oh hm...hothraxxa i still was planning to ring u at some point to venture into the virtues of vapes 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7787 10:04 <@Joanna> Would some time today work for you 10:04 sure 10:04 <@Joanna> When are you free 10:04 <@Joanna> I have nothing on til 5pm EDT 10:04 now if you like 10:04 <@Joanna> Idk which side of North are you 10:05 <@Joanna> Ok do u have discord 10:05 afraid not 10:05 <@Joanna> Lemme get back to you in 30-60min when im home then 10:05 ok 10:05 <@Joanna> Probly easier on pc 10:06 yeah 10:06 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 244 points, T:849, killed by a scroll of earth 10:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Set, on T:9618 10:07 You turn on your radar. Yvonne misses the Oracle. 10:07 Yvonne is hit by magic missiles appearing from thin air! 10:07 nooooooo this is bad, please don't kill yourself 10:08 <@Joanna> D: 10:08 <@Joanna> Hey Muad are u up 10:10 -!- hardfought has joined #hardfought 10:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Hea Elf Fem Neu), 660 points, T:1603, killed by a gnome lord 10:14 [hdf-us] [slth] joes (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 34681 points, T:6320, killed by a bugbear chieftain, in explore mode 10:15 [hdf-us] [slth] joes (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 34253 points, T:6319, killed by a mountain centaur, in explore mode 10:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 34166 points, T:4574, killed by a gremlin, while fainted from lack of food 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:10115 10:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "magic marker", on T:57810 10:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 93 points, T:586, killed by a grid bug 10:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "magic marker", on T:57813 10:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 108 points, T:480, killed by a sewer rat 10:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 208 points, T:286, killed by a half-dragon 10:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 147 points, T:1334, killed by a fox 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a tiger corpse on an altar of Blind Io, on T:9182 10:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Priestess, on T:12574 10:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 115 points, T:1001, killed by a grid bug 10:42 yani you should be able to ^D> to deliberately scuff an engraving with your feet 10:43 numpad ftw, we press k to use that command :P 10:43 numbad 10:44 stupid RNG decided that I can't increase divination spells beyond basic this time 10:44 not the worst one to have 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:10133 10:47 i - [ the c-+7 mummy wrapping named Hotel Burner (being worn) {2} 10:47 holy shit 10:49 aosdict you lied to me 10:49 you said xnh did not modify giant corpses giving str gain 10:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 50 points, T:288, killed by a grid bug, while praying 10:50 case INTRINSIC_GAIN_STR: 10:50 gainstr((struct obj *) 0, 0, TRUE); 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 7035 points, T:4382, killed by brainlessness 10:50 break; 10:50 the system is different right? 10:50 it seems not to be working after you refactored it 10:51 at least I just ate 20 cans of giant in wizmode and didn't gain any str 10:53 you really think someone would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies? 10:53 -!- hardfought has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:54 teleportitis and teleport control is.. pleasant 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Priestess, on T:10713 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:10743 10:57 i have a blessed greased +3 gdsm and AC -10, i am level 11. is it "safe" to slay a shopkeeper? 10:57 oh wait typo, its +4 gdsm 10:57 and i have cleaver 10:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51211 10:59 -!- b93 has joined #hardfought 11:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:57929 11:01 <@Joanna> Lmao @ amateurhour 11:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided alhoons, on T:57930 11:02 aosdict: the problem is eat.c:894 11:02 both gain str from giants and gain energy from newts are broken 11:02 beacuse they are negative values so they are discarded there before they get applied 11:03 just change it to type == 0 instead of type <= 0 I think 11:04 yeah that fixed it for me 11:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 1808 points, T:3904, killed by a gnome lord 11:04 NetSysFire: I wouldn't 11:05 but I play very safely (some might even say in a cowardly fashion). there are penalties for murder btw 11:05 i am an orcish barb 11:05 which is chaotic 11:05 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 11:05 I think there are still penalties for murder even as a chaotic character aren't there 11:05 w - a % +7 ring of gain constitution (on right hand) {0}. 11:05 can someone who actually knows confirm? 11:05 you anger the watch afaik 11:06 * NetSysFire checks the wiki 11:06 omg the items in this game :D wearing this gives me 24 CON 11:06 oh 11:06 Everyone including chaotics still gets a huge alignment penalty for killing always-peaceful monsters (which mostly coincide with those that can be murdered): Minetown watch, priests, shopkeepers etc. 11:06 this is what I was thinking of 11:06 not exactly "murder" 11:06 but similar 11:06 "Unless you are chaotic, murder will cause you to lose intrinsic telepathy and two points of Luck. The message when this happens is "You murderer!" " 11:07 but right 11:07 amateurhour: lies require intent 11:08 qt: how do I still wind up with bugs like this after thoroughly testing everything before committing 11:08 maybe I should stop testing things if it won't matter anyway 11:08 dammit i should have waited some more 11:08 oh that line got added later it looks like 11:08 as in before eating that stone giant corpse 11:08 the type <= 0 thing 11:09 didnt gain any strength :( 11:09 nethack automated regression tests when 11:09 in 70b2cd6b7 11:09 so it would have worked when you first refactored it i guess 11:09 looks like there's another prop <= 0 that was added in that commit too 11:10 not sure if pets can gain str from giants though, I guess not 11:10 pets can't gain either of those things 11:10 no str, no Pw 11:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:51302 11:15 whats a "grand tour"? i heard this term a few times but i dont quite understand it yet 11:15 having to visit all three high altars 11:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13632 11:22 [hdf-eu] [slex] Dareen (AmyBSOD) (Sec Hca Fem Neu) obtained the luckstone from Mines End, on T:14850 11:22 trophy get! 11:24 <@Joanna> Pog 11:25 <@Joanna> wtf happened to tinklebear 11:25 who is tinklebear 11:25 <{Demo}1> is there a race today 11:25 <@Joanna> He hung out here (er. I think he's a he) 11:25 <@Joanna> But not seen him around in a good month or two 11:25 a - [ a ` pair of concrete gloves named Gauntlets of Defense {4} 11:25 ... 11:25 <@Joanna> Nah Demo 11:25 <@Joanna> No race 11:26 <{Demo}1> I'll race u to dying first 11:26 the main reason on playing on alt.org for me right meow is that i can cure the stats abuses with a unihorn 11:26 <@Joanna> I don't play to lose 11:27 <@Joanna> But i appreciate the offer, Demo 11:27 slex sokomines race when 11:27 <{Demo}1> slex mines + grund kill race when 11:27 grund's didn't generate in my game :P 11:28 <@Joanna> !rng booze | nap | discuss vapes 11:28 @Joanna: nap 11:28 <@Joanna> Ok. 11:32 if (!strcmp(plname, "amateurhour")) never_give_gauntlets_of_defense(); 11:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 14093 points, T:2577, killed by a gnome lady 11:34 <{Demo}1> so funny how vanilla monk implementation was so lazy they didnt even port gauntlets of defense 11:35 amateurhour: :c 11:35 f 11:37 fasten your seatbelts most valued entities, i will now tell a joke 11:37 why is the caveman always partying? he owns a club 11:37 lol 11:37 nice 11:41 hahah 11:43 -!- hardfought has joined #hardfought 11:43 LarienTelrunya: put that on a t-shirt in slex lol 11:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:51599 11:45 lol 11:45 LarienTelrunya do this one also: how many cows does it take to screw in a lightbulb? MOO 11:46 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 11:46 do it... MOO EET 11:47 lol i crack myself up 11:47 -!- hardfought has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:48 who is this mysterious 'hardfought' person anyway 11:49 damn incubus stole a point of constitution me 11:49 I thought at first it was luxi or K2 doing something for lols but clearly not at this point 11:53 aoei I am on a pilgrimage to recover from my burns https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/B5qt9Du9/1618761161.JPG 11:53 i am trying to find interesting seeds (DL1 WoW) w/ setseed, however i am too dumb to analyze the seed algorithm - so i am now thinking of starting a game, and as soon as the objects of the first level are generated, check if there is a wow, if yes output the seed, and then exit as quickly as possible 11:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2382 11:54 use aoei's startscum script or something 11:54 which does that 11:54 no, i want it to be even faster, and i just want to check the actual source code 11:55 er 11:55 i don't want to walk around the first level until i find one, i just want to check the objects linked list on startup 11:56 heh, alright, I've added those messages to my todo list 11:56 why spend 5 mins manually doing something when you can spend 3h automating it 11:56 but actually it's the next level 11:57 why use an automated solution when you can spend 3h automating it in a different way 11:57 just starting a game, checking the upstairs, #quitting, reading xlog for seed is too easy 11:57 i already have setseed-chacha running in a docker container 11:57 easy and slow 11:58 the solution for startscumming is to make the game so hard that your char whom you startscummed an hour for will die 5 minutes into the game :P 11:58 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:59 pretty sure i cannot set the seed via the command line 11:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a mottled spellbook given to her by Hermes, on T:1729 12:00 check if it can be set via NETHACKOPTIONS or something 12:00 it can 12:00 if so then it ca be set via command line 12:00 oh! 12:01 it shows that i don't have nethack locally running since ~2011 12:01 aah i see 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:15733 12:03 so `NETHACKOPTIONS=seed:abcd nethack` should just work 12:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1228 points, T:1943, killed by a gnomish wizard 12:05 amateurhour: thx! 12:07 Adeon: are you still planning to work on your nethack reporting thing? 12:07 base64 version shouldn't allow spaces i the seed 12:07 but base64 seed is something only implemented in my own fork 12:08 aoei: i don't need spaces 12:08 yo don't need but your comment implies it is allowed 12:08 no 12:08 which may be the case in the currently live version 12:08 im not sure 12:09 `NETHACKOPTIONS=seed:abcd nethack` does this not mean 'call the command nethack with the environment variable seed set to abcd' ? 12:09 ohhhhhh i misunderstood you 12:09 the command is nethack, the seed is abcd 12:09 i thought this was an rcfile line 12:09 i didnt know you could set opts on the cmd line like that 12:10 stenno2 yes 12:10 well as you can derive from the conversation, neither did i until like 8 minutes ago 12:10 i didnt read all the conversation 12:10 Adeon: looking forward to it 12:10 i can barely even see irc properly right now 12:10 not enough sleep? 12:11 no i was just crying about an old friend who killed himself many years ago 12:11 long story 12:11 well, i am sorry 12:12 its k 12:12 thanks tho' 12:12 hope you feel better soon 12:12 -!- hardfought has joined #hardfought 12:14 il be ok 12:14 ok 12:14 sometimes old grief comes up again its just 12:14 a thing 12:14 yeh 12:15 <@chaos> helo 12:15 henlo fren 12:16 250 Hello @chaos 12:21 <@nabru> Hello chaos 12:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] simpleliquid (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1058 points, T:1018, killed by a pony 12:23 <@nabru> It would be ironic if simpleliquid drowned. 12:25 how about if simpleliquid dissolved in molten lava? 12:27 can i just call exit(0) at an arbitrary point in the nethack source to exit gracefully? 12:28 if by gracefully you mean it should still save and write dumplogs and things then no 12:28 no, thats not needed 12:28 it will also not clean up whatever terminal manipulation was put in place 12:28 what does that mean? 12:29 for example if I run xnh and it crashes and I'm kicked back to a terminal, the input mode may still be set in such a way that my keystrokes aren't echoed 12:29 I assume a direct exit would do the same 12:29 gotcha 12:29 <{Demo}1> stenno, see panic() 12:29 <{Demo}1> and see what iut calls 12:29 why don't you call done() 12:30 or really_done(), as done() is subject to lifesaving 12:30 to be precise, the exit call would be somewhere in here starting a new game https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/src/allmain.c#L632 12:30 i want to exit as quickly as possible 12:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (And-Ana And Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7337 12:30 <{Demo}1> look at the calls panic makes to exit abruptly 12:30 will look at it, thanks 12:31 and output to stdout is simply done with printf ? 12:32 the reason i don't use done() or panic() is simply out of ignorance 12:33 what are you actually trying to accomplish 12:34 fastest wowseed scumming in the west 12:34 ^ 12:34 let me explain 12:35 i have setseed-chacha running in a docker container, in mklev of allmain.c, when the first level of a new game is generated, i want to check the items that are generated on the level, if it contains a wow i want to indicate that and exit 12:35 i realized now that i don't have to output the seed anymore because i can set it via env variable 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1494 12:36 seems like it might be more efficient to just capture the results via livelog or a similar mechanism, and having it just spam #wizmakemap on dlvl1 12:36 "The Grey-elf zaps a wand of death! The death ray whizzes by you! The death ray bounces! The death ray hits you!" 12:37 "You aren't affected." - i hate when thats on the next line 12:37 rather than repeatedly launching the game and doing a bunch of setup for no reason 12:38 i am not sure how wizmakemap interacts with setseed 12:38 the end goal would be to enter the seed on hardfought, and get the same result 12:44 panic() just calls exit() too 12:44 <{Demo}1> ok nice 12:45 hmm actually 12:46 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/b65c93cdff3f52483645b29fc68f4adeb39ccbf3/util/panic.c#L48 12:46 i assume UNIX is not defined for linux 12:46 as gnu is not unix :P 12:46 <{Demo}1> it is defined for linux 12:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Ana And Mal Neu), 73999 points, T:9667, killed by a gargoyle 12:47 oh 12:47 <{Demo}1> the linux port of nethack is just a hacked version of the unix port, i think 12:47 so it calls abort() and not exit() 12:47 <{Demo}1> no 12:47 <{Demo}1> oh 12:47 <{Demo}1> no ok it doesn't 12:47 <{Demo}1> wait 12:47 <{Demo}1> yeah it sigabrts on panics 12:47 Twenty years ago it was very confused about BSD vs SYSV but that mostly seems to be sorted now 12:48 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/b65c93cdff3f52483645b29fc68f4adeb39ccbf3/util/panic.c#L41 12:48 <{Demo}1> UNIX is defined for linux builds on nethacks and panic calls abort() (which sucks) 12:48 <{Demo}1> just call exit() lol 12:49 right 12:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] simpleliquid (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3524 points, T:1734, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 12:49 where is infinigon 12:51 yesterday night at ~3 AM i had to make the decision of either learning how chacha works, or just bruteforcing seeds 12:51 the latter seemed like the lesser evil lol 12:52 i am just a dumbass with (almost) no formal CS education 12:53 and if something like hashing is involved, i think i am out of luck in any case 12:55 i'd need to have a bitcoin mining farm to solve that issue 12:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17576 12:57 the way I investigated this stuff back ages ago 12:58 was that I patched random() to write a log of random values generated and the wand generation too 12:58 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 12:58 and I would investigate the logs and check what numbers need to be generated for something to spawn 12:58 then bruteforce seeds a lot, looking for a sequence of random numbers that could be a wand of wishing if the numbers were used at wand generation 12:58 this generates a list of seeds, and then run actual nethack to check which ones actually have a wand 12:58 Adeon: just incase you missed it i wanted to say, henlo speedrunner 12:59 henlo you STINKY SPEEDRUNNER 12:59 go fetch amulet ugly 12:59 I am taking photos of the ocean 12:59 :o 12:59 nice 12:59 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/i4FtoAv0/IMG_7461.JPG 12:59 im gonna make coffee and do cooking 12:59 or at least that's the plan 12:59 look at these gorgeous morning sun colors 12:59 such beauty 13:00 that's just silicon 13:00 are you in silicon valley? 13:00 no 13:00 okehy 13:00 could also be a beach in northern germany 13:00 dinner was tasty, and my roommate even had dessert for me: mousse au chocolat with cute little candy high heels ♥ 13:00 stenno2: haha yea 13:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed figurine of a Sword Archon", on T:52430 13:03 LarienTelrunya: did you try to dual wield them? 13:03 lol NetSysFire 13:03 I can take photos of the ocean but they'd all show it as brown and horribly polluted 13:04 * aosdict envies adeon's californianess a tad 13:05 * Pinkbeast lives about 10m from the sea (in one of the high points of Cambridge, ie, 10m straight down) 13:06 [hdf-eu] [slex] Choop (Wil Kha Mal Law), 182 points, T:689, killed by a monster (invisible Ms. Tirebolu, the shopkeeper) 13:06 Go Team Invisible Shopkeeper! 13:08 i miss !gt from #NetHack 13:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 45034 points, T:19182, killed by a wounded invisible stalker, while dressing up 13:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:58151 13:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:53293 13:27 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:29 [hdf-eu] [slex] Dareen (AmyBSOD) (Sec Hca Fem Neu) visited all DevNull challenge dungeons, on T:17977 13:29 finally! 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1256 points, T:2380, poisoned by a killer bee 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 104 points, T:1096, killed by an uninjured small mimic 13:39 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] ullf (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 215 points, T:586, caught himself in his own magical blast 13:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Hedwirg (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 23628 points, T:2647, killed by an iguana, while fainted from lack of food 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 517 points, T:2049, killed by an uninjured invisible dwarf lord 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4227 13:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:53459 13:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1142 points, T:1753, killed by a giant mimic 13:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:53489 13:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:53535 13:59 -!- amateurh1ur has joined #hardfought 14:00 -!- amateurhour has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:00 -!- amateurh1ur is now known as amateurhour 14:02 -!- b93 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:6639 14:03 that's a real nice gift 14:04 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11852 points, T:6831, killed by a rabid rat, while praying 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:37325 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed BifphWombat's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:7253 14:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9643 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 6322 points, T:8127, killed by an uninjured ape 14:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] simpleliquid (Sam Hum Mal Law), 341 points, T:283, killed by a boulder 14:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:11408 14:26 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12662 14:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:53616 14:36 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 14:38 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:39 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 14:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:109773 14:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha), 4231524 points, T:53670, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/KrO2/dnethack/dumplog/1618324714.dnh.txt 14:44 GG 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 587 points, T:1828, killed by an uninjured gnome lady 14:53 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8028 14:59 -!- b93 has joined #hardfought 15:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided locusts, on T:59035 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 797 points, T:1947, killed by an uninjured bat, while being frightened to death 15:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:10 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 15:12 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:12 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 15:14 freenode gets a new ircd? 15:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided master mind flayers, on T:59168 15:18 thats old news 15:19 ? 15:26 they developed it and mentioned it on their website months ago 15:27 freenode blog post was from today 15:27 https://freenode.net/ 15:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Rog Hob Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5829 15:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:14527 15:27 havent seen this one 15:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:30062 15:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 5429 points, T:6308, killed by a lynx 15:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a stone club entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:3493 15:39 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:42 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 15:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] simpleliquid (Sam Hum Mal Law), 8222 points, T:2411, killed by a gnome king 15:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1912 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3141 15:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a twisted staff entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:4050 15:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Cerberus, on T:59294 15:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Gehennom, on T:59303 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Adventurer, on T:79132 15:51 how does one read charges of a wand? my wand of wishing has 1:1 charges. seems like the second int is the number of charges but was is the first one? 15:51 s/was/what/ 15:51 Number of times recharged 15:52 oooh and what does this number do? does the wand break when it gets too high? 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3697 15:53 i tried to find this in the wiki but i didnt find anything about that 15:53 It has a chance to break and explode based on the number of times it's been recharged 15:54 It should be on the charging article 15:54 oh i read the wands one 15:54 As explained previously you can only recharge a WoW once 15:54 Other wands can be recharged multiple times with the chance to break increasing each time 15:54 yeah don't charge a 1:x wand of wishing unless you want sadness 15:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:111507 15:55 what do you do with the wand then? 15:55 wrest the final charge out of it when it's at 1:0 15:55 you wrest it at 1:0 15:56 oh so i have two charges left 15:56 yes 15:56 hmmm 15:56 decisions decisions 15:56 keep in mind that wresting might take a long time 15:56 thats not a problem 15:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4518 15:57 If you don't need anything urgently stick it in a bag of not-holding 15:57 btw here is the relevant wiki part https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Charging#Wands 15:57 It's inconvenient because to keep an emergency wish you have to forgo two wishes right now 15:57 Keep it safe until you do 15:57 you can still do 0-turn wrest i think but that is bug abuse 15:57 i already have a +4 blessed cleaver, gdsm (wished for it), speed boots (also a wish) and certain other useful stuff like a blessed unihorn 15:58 0-turn q-wrest 15:58 Orc barb, right 15:58 No reflection? 15:58 yup! 15:58 no not yet 15:58 Done soko? 15:58 not yet 15:58 Then postpone it until you at least get to the prize safely 15:58 alright 15:58 did not even do the quest because my level is too low 15:59 Then just wait until you're ready, no hassle 15:59 orc barb has poison res so there's one risk eliminated already 15:59 i already have all the resistances 15:59 risk of dying 15:59 Barbs always have poison res lol 15:59 all? 15:59 Yes 15:59 yup! sleep, fire, cold, shock 15:59 You have to do Quest at some point for the Bell so no hurry until then 15:59 how did you get them so quickly 15:59 before soko 15:59 Early crowning? 15:59 ^ 15:59 no 15:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:111666 15:59 i am at T:39026 16:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:111668 16:00 Can also eat your way to a lot of resistances 16:00 i just ate corpses 16:00 ok so thats just a very long game 16:00 it will take very very long 16:00 Is the whole idea that this is "before soko" inaccurate? 16:00 yeah 16:00 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Singhend, the former Thaumaturge, on T:9510 16:00 for me 'before soko' implies early game :P 16:01 look i just took my time okay? lol 16:01 oh, no harm meant 16:01 its my best run yet 16:01 no no i didnt mean it like that 16:01 hey guise i just got the amulet of yendor, what should I do next? soko and hope for a boh? 16:02 stenno2: i am still a noob and the deepest level i have reached in this run was dlvl 25 16:02 Good idea, then you can check it's the real one 16:02 NetSysFire: Going to D:25 before Soko is an unusual approach 16:02 also i dont have a bag of holding but a chest in my current "stash" level with an altar 16:02 should still be safe though™ 16:02 I mean Soko IS always optional 16:02 take all the time you need, i didn't want to give the impression to downtalk on you 16:03 Most people tend to to hit it up on the early side for the wands, food and prize 16:03 or rather, i didn't want to downtalk on you 16:04 no i didnt even recognize any downtalk, you misparsed my message as grumpy 16:04 everyone, put your helmets on, i am going to modify the nethack source code with only vague knowledge about what i am doing 16:04 NetSysFire: alright :) 16:04 what are you doing stenno2 16:04 i am not mad or something at all it was just meant as a "i am a noob and i will do things the unusual way and laugh about it" 16:04 i think i will go to soko now 16:04 yeah gotcha 16:05 qt: i will see if a wand of wishing gets generated on the first level of the game and then exit 16:05 oh the setseed thing you were talking about earlier? 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2453 points, T:4661, killed by a wounded rothe 16:05 qt: yep 16:06 cool, best of luck 16:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 5866 points, T:5219, killed by a ball of cold 16:07 you got this NetSysFire 16:07 There was a recent commit regarding saddles, right? 16:07 If so, someone mind linking it to me? 16:07 ? 16:08 amateurhour: i hope so, i am worried about messing up in soko and getting in some unrecoverable situation 16:08 nvm, got it 16:08 Also you have to try to render Soko permanently unsolvable 16:08 Reminder that you can make or break boulders at the cost of a -1 Luck penalty per offense 16:09 So just don't bring in non-blessed luck items, or else stash them in a bag 16:09 amateurhour: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/cf62687630184fa44e2993e26864033e88883784 16:09 Was thinking of this 16:10 yo 16:11 credit to the 'helmet' line goes to adeon bt 16:12 w 16:13 stenno2: so what u been doin with the setseed sources 16:13 trying to merge latest vanilla changes or? 16:13 cuz i said i might try to do that but then i have been lazy thus far so any progress you've made in that direction is useful information to me 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had a pair of boots called fumble boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:15629 16:17 -!- stenno2 is now known as stenno 16:18 aoei: so far i haven't done anything, i just adjusted https://github.com/matsuu/docker-nethack to build nh3.7 16:19 rather, ^ builds setseed-chacha 16:19 thanks to a comment by FIQ i think 16:19 oic 16:19 playing with docker containers 16:19 well yeah thats the base of it 16:19 i guess i will try to find the executive function to merge latest vanilla to setseed 16:20 have they fixed the annoying travel command bug in vanilla yet? 16:20 i will checkout setseed-hdf and then do the changes there 16:20 what bug is that? 16:21 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/487 16:21 closed 16:22 seems like it was fixed 16:22 great 16:22 thanks amateurhour 16:22 oh i noticed that twhen using travel strats in soko 16:22 soko 2a 16:22 yeah it's still broken on setseed 16:22 which is one of the reasons we need to update setseed lol 16:22 where is infinigon 16:22 infini is gone 16:22 but i can probably merge it 16:22 im just lazy 16:22 infinigon_: 16:22 and haven't done it 16:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided mind flayers, on T:59349 16:29 aoei i'll prob fork the setseed repo and update it myself 16:29 if/when I do, that will break saves 16:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:30 K2: would you mind doing it with my repo 16:30 sure 16:30 because it has nicer text representation of seeds 16:31 base64 change i made 16:31 gotcha 16:31 https://gitlab.com/aoeixsz4/nh-setseed/ 16:31 hugs <3 16:31 it will break old seeds, but you should be able to repro old seeds by converting the previous text to base64 16:32 i'm not worried about that 16:32 echo -n RedNaga | base64 16:32 or somethin 16:32 some players might want to do that 16:32 but i think its not a big deal yea 16:32 i only want this change because i dislike the way random seeds are saved in dumplog/xlog currently 16:32 with \x03 and such 16:32 it looks uggers 16:32 also hugs yey 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 3 points, T:130, killed by an uninjured fox 16:34 lol 16:34 hopefully the vanilla merges are fairly painless 16:35 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:35 if not we can look at things together, infinigon_ would be the best person but i'm sorrrrta familiar with the code 16:35 thx K2 16:35 np 16:36 working on it now 16:36 nice 16:36 im gonna watch movies with frens tonight :3 16:36 sweet 16:37 we just got back from walking the dogs, prepping for in-law arrival 16:37 :o 16:37 are they good inlaws or awkward inlaws 16:37 because my momo-in-law will tear apart the kitchen to make a piece of toast 16:37 -o 16:37 lol 16:37 wut 16:37 at least she is a bogus mon 16:37 its a fact 16:37 sounds somewhat awkward 16:38 aoei they're cool, but mom-in-law is crazy 16:38 ah ok 16:38 not crazy like stand over you while you sleep with a knife crazy 16:38 just typical crazy mom crazy 16:39 okay lol 16:39 :) 16:41 nuts, but harmless 16:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:16923, rt[2:16:42] 16:42 just merged latest 3.7 vanilla to my setseed repo, no conflicts 16:43 "The invisible storm giant swings his corpse." 16:43 hah shit 16:44 i pulled the wrong repo from you 16:44 oops 16:44 you have vanilla nethack as default 16:44 -!- hardfought has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:44 no wonder it went smooth lol 16:44 easy peasy to correct 16:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof ring of conflict", on T:17227, rt[2:19:31] 16:45 oh lol, yeah you want setseed-hdf 16:45 that was how infinigon had it 16:46 so i made changes there 16:46 i shoulda said, sorry 16:46 its all good 16:46 i shoulda been paying attention 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 849 points, T:2087, killed by a gas spore's explosion, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:46 do i want setseed-hdf or setseed-hdf-b64 16:46 uhhhhh shit 16:46 lemme check lol 16:47 hahah 16:47 looks like i merged everything into setseed-hdf 16:48 the -b64 one was a working branch for fiddling with stuff 16:48 cool 16:48 brb 16:50 so hdf will be updated with the sexyseed stuff from aoei ? 16:51 seems like yea 16:51 i hope i tested it enough lol 16:51 i think i was fairly thorough 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 953 points, T:1092, killed by an uninjured bat 16:51 we should be good 16:51 stenno yeah plus latest from devteam 16:51 so i guess i should wait with my stuff now 16:51 kk 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:18699 16:54 -!- FootoftheHare has joined #hardfought 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] priyavt (Kni Hum Mal Law), 159 points, T:468, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 16:57 ok so i have this - https://github.com/k21971/setseed 16:57 and i'm about to merge latest 3.7 to it 16:58 ooh my 16:58 hello merge conflicts 17:01 henlo merge conflict 17:01 hello u STINKY MERGE CONFLICT 17:01 go find a better merge tool ugly 17:01 lol 17:01 we don't need no steenken merge conflicts 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1289 points, T:2572, poisoned by a killer bee 17:02 aosdict: lmao 17:03 Anyone know any variants that do things with saddles? 17:04 Like I think EvilHack starts chaotic Knights with saddled nightmares et. al. 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] vip (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 410 points, T:2305, killed by an uninjured bat 17:06 [hdf-us] [seed] vip (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 17:11 i solved soko 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1166 17:12 GJ 17:12 now good luck with the zoo 17:12 Oh, good, do the Riemann Hypothesis next 17:13 the zoo is already dead 17:13 it wasnt even a challenge because i am waaay overleveled since i started this too late 17:13 i got reflection 17:13 Ah 17:13 I mean monster generation tends to be on the upward side in Soko compared to the main branch 17:13 but if you handled it, you handled it 17:14 Saves you a wish too 17:14 For the moment anyway 17:14 cleaver helped a lot 17:15 aoei - is g.default_rng a thing with setseed? 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 470 points, T:1408, killed by an uninjured gnome lord 17:15 or RNG_CORE 17:15 Cleaver is goated for crowd control 17:15 K2: yes 17:15 Big help on the quest too 17:15 g.default_rng comes from setseed_chacha 17:15 stenno ok thanks 17:15 i mean there were some relatively tough monsters like ogre kings, cobras which shot its venom everywhere and some elementals 17:15 any other new functions i need to be aware of 17:15 K2, aosdict, FIQ: Do your variants do anything special with saddles? 17:16 Soko elementals are assholes 17:16 Umbire not evilhack, no 17:16 if I did anything special with saddles I would have said when you asked the first time 17:16 evilhack has barding though 17:16 Doesn't even have to be "special" per se, can also just be "where else do they spawn" 17:16 i encountered a few air elementals in the mines 17:16 like I know EvilHack has Knight player monsters with saddled warhorses 17:16 Barding? 17:16 barding != saddle 17:17 Umbire search the evilhack repo, its fairly new 17:17 ic 17:17 i made barding for steeds 17:17 imo polling people on irc is a poor method of discovering variant features 17:17 I'm just asking for article's sake 17:17 Get some info upfront, save a bit of effort digging down the line 17:17 Umbire, both evilhack and xnethack have pretty verbose changelogs, that would be your best bet for those 17:17 NetSysFire: Ogre kings are probably the worst you'll have to deal with in terms of quest stuff 17:18 Actually no that's a lie, trolls are right dickheads 17:18 You're playing 3.6.6 right? 17:18 how come the saddle article is being looked at? any special reason? 17:18 It's the article I'm editing right now 17:18 that's basically it 17:18 Just wanna get as much info as I can in this pass 17:18 Umbire: i feel like a dirty offtopic exploiter, i am playing on alt.org 17:19 It's NetHack, how's that offtopic? :B 17:19 Anyway yeah, you'll at least have a carnivorous pet for troll disposal then 17:20 NetSysFire: you gotta wean yourself off the unicorn horn and play 3.7 :P 17:20 In 3.7.0 you'll have to use like, tinning kits or other forms of corpse disposal 17:20 the actual alt.org nethack channel is pretty quiet anyway 17:20 amateurhour: i already did on hardfought 17:20 friendship ended with #nethack 17:20 #hardfought is my new best friend 17:20 heh 17:21 Right, so that's a relative no for Evil/xnh, pending on FIQ 17:21 aoei, stenno gonna do the merge later, start over 17:21 Maybe Phil'll come through 17:21 if #hardfought is so great then how come there's no #hardfought 2 17:21 I fell like I may have already done a bad in sp_lev.c 17:21 dota 2 except hardfought 17:22 i keep getting distracted, with this may merge conflicts I need to not be distracted often 17:22 #harderfought 17:22 *many 17:22 Alright, off to sift through the wiki, then the gits 17:22 #hardestfought 17:22 something that would greatly benefit the wiki 17:23 a page that lists what every race/role in slex gets from level up 17:23 #sohardacatcouldntscratchitfought 17:23 its like the tautology of social channels 17:23 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:19907, rt[2:58:01] 17:23 people leave channels because there is not much activity, and because of that there is even less activity 17:23 yeah i'm gonna minimize irc it's a distraction 17:23 damn these foocobi 17:24 don't you just hate having fun instead of doing boring things 17:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:19920, rt[2:58:48] 17:24 its fun 17:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19922, rt[2:58:56] 17:24 i am abusing a magic trap, which spawned a rust monster and an incubus and i killed the rust monster first 17:24 then the incubus took off all my armor and put an unidentified ring on my finger 17:24 Huh, Chevalier role in SLEX looks refreshingly normal 17:24 Oh, the wedding ring? 17:25 They have special interactions with those during 'encounters' 17:25 the incubus said "the pearl ring would look prettier", but it was luckily a +1 ring of adornment 17:25 Yeah, incubi will put on any rings of adornment they spot in your inventory 17:25 *have you put on 17:25 Succubi take them instead 17:27 S:184994 T:42160 lol 17:28 i am mildly concerned that the bigroom contains a lava moat in its middle 17:28 doesn't matter how fast or slow you're going, just whether you're having fun 17:28 \o/ 17:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:20256, rt[3:04:17] 17:30 even playing a normal role in slex is no good because the rest of the game is still insane 17:30 nice gift 17:30 thing is that you've no way of knowing which are normal roles 17:30 the current best description of the roles is here: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Role_difficulty/Variants#Slash.27EM_Extended_roles 17:30 and it is missing so much crucial information that it's useless 17:30 i think one wish for certain will be the master key of thievery 17:31 if there was a charming and handsome and brave wiki warrior willing to work on a page though 17:31 That'd be me, Ammy 17:31 * amateurhour flutters eyelashes 17:31 dammit dont tempt me 17:31 i am already a wiki maintainer in the archwiki 17:31 and i saw broken tables in the nethack wiki 17:31 i hate broken tables 17:31 * NetSysFire rages 17:32 I mean be nice to have someone that isn't me on the lookout for those for a chance 17:32 for example that page mentions Secret Advice Members, which sound eh kinda normal maybe? but it doesn't tell you they start with a whole bunch of epic stuff and can get expert in literally everything 17:33 possibly the toppest of tiers of role 17:33 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:20401, rt[3:08:02] 17:34 anyways it's sleep time 17:34 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:20405, rt[3:09:08] 17:34 sounds mildly unbalanced 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1350 17:35 Umbire: the problem is that this is effort. and the archwiki is waaaay better organized as far as i know with proper style guidelines, bots cleaning up and so on 17:35 NetHack has the former 17:36 Not so much the latter 17:36 But then bots aren't entirely a necessity so much as a convenience 17:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 5505 points, T:7791, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted mumak 17:38 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:39 the bots in the archwiki generate the statistics, flag dead and broken links, fix some things we know for sure are wrong, updates maintenance sections and more 17:40 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:20814, rt[3:14:54] 17:41 So it's a bit more effort than usual, hasn't killed any of us yet 17:41 (that I know of) 17:43 right now i unfortunately dont feel up for wiki work somewhere else 17:43 That's fine then 17:43 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wand#Variants contains a few of these broken tables 17:44 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:NetSysFire/Broken_tables here is something i wrote up for this in the archwiki which helps fixing this 17:45 and right now my heads hurts pretty badly so no more nethack for today 17:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:20994, rt[3:20:33] 17:46 All good 17:50 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Juiblex, on T:60777 17:50 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:51 -!- hardfought has joined #hardfought 17:51 Can also buy clairvoyance for Gehennom among other things 17:51 i have reflection and magic protection (gdsm), can i go kill all the shopkeepers tomorrow? :p 17:52 I mean you can, but is there a reason you want to? 17:52 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:21343, rt[3:27:11] 17:52 i can get all the loot 17:52 AC of 0 or less is enough to deal with striking wands, reflection is enough for magic missiles/any other wands they might have somehow 17:53 Yeah but is it actually gonna be stuff you need? 17:53 maybe i should just use the 10000+ gold coins i have by now 17:54 but muh experience and the sacrifice 17:54 You can get experience plenty of other ways and it usually isn't worth it unless you can reliably get to the altar in time 17:55 [hdf-us] [slshm] simpleliquid (Sam Hum Mal Law), 559 points, T:800, killed by a kitten 17:55 For me I may as well just buy whatever's needed unless I'm going out of my way 17:55 Or have a pet steal it 17:55 <@lorem ipsum> havent played in a while 17:55 <@lorem ipsum> tbh 17:56 -!- b93 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:21391, rt[3:31:08] 17:56 -!- b93 has joined #hardfought 17:58 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 31 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:21483, rt[3:32:46] 17:59 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Rog Dop Mal Cha), 2271 points, T:1842, killed by a statue gargoyle 18:01 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:21704, rt[3:35:46] 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:1378 18:04 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:21821, rt[3:39:14] 18:05 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:21825, rt[3:39:41] 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1799 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed vip's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:1916 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided demiliches, on T:2264 18:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:20 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22872, rt[3:54:56] 18:20 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:22874, rt[3:55:00] 18:22 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:22960, rt[3:57:21] 18:23 * NCommander has been debating if he want to go back into playing nethack or try angband or similar 18:23 -!- hardfought has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:23 -!- hardfought has joined #hardfought 18:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:23016, rt[3:58:40] 18:25 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:23037, rt[3:59:40] 18:25 NCommander: see what makes you fun. i found games like cataclysm-dda also insanely fun 18:25 the grammar in this one is borked i should go to bed lol 18:25 I go though phases with NetHack 18:25 Usually I play a lot until I get an ascension 18:25 then come back to it the following year 18:26 Ohi 18:27 -!- b93 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:28 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:23180, rt[4:03:24] 18:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:23187, rt[4:03:38] 18:35 Alright, that's most of the wiki and vanilla source code scoured 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3227 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3659 18:53 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:25525, rt[4:28:20] 18:53 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:25527, rt[4:28:29] 18:56 oh wow, see that latest reddit post? 18:56 tame lich casts summon hostile nasties 18:59 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:25738, rt[4:33:45] 18:59 didn't know that was possible, is that related to the dragon breath thing? 19:01 Do you mean in the sense of "while confused or affected by conflict"? 19:01 Because yeah, I think they use their "normal" spells in those instances 19:02 stenno: heh heh it's like the demon pets gating in hostile demons 19:03 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:25935, rt[4:38:08] 19:04 K2: oic, barding is how you get reflection for steeds now 19:04 in cases where they can't wear amulets/shields 19:04 i also think that conflict must be involved 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2909 19:04 Said as much on the post 19:04 but tame dragons will use their breath in 3.6.something 19:04 or 3.7? 19:04 I'm guessing barding is 0.7 stuff 19:04 yes 19:04 Neat 19:05 Also they use their breath while tame in 3.6.x 19:05 barding will be in the next release of evilhack (0.7.0) 19:05 hoping to go live with that version by may 1st 19:05 just in time to help the proletariat with their struggle 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3007 19:06 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/15f4f62b69b2995cc2e0ba61018efe08bbbcde9d <---- barding 19:06 can we have that in vanilla please 19:06 :P 19:07 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:25971, rt[4:41:37] 19:07 i miss having viable endgame pets 19:07 endgame mounts* 19:07 I'm looking through the Evil code rn for saddle stuff 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Field Worker, on T:3138 19:08 there are no changes to saddles in evilhack 19:08 Specific to 0.6 19:08 YANI: saddle bags 19:08 Not changes to saddles themselves, just instances involving them 19:08 e.g. monsters generating on steeds 19:08 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:25989, rt[4:43:04] 19:08 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:25993, rt[4:43:16] 19:08 congrats? 19:09 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 773605 points, T:25995, rt[4:43:33], wc[1 day, 3:21:16], ascended 19:09 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jt/setseed/dumplog/1618688862.seed.html 19:09 Geeg 19:09 not just one, but two random wands of wishing 19:09 nice one 19:10 is that a PB? 19:10 Hi jilles 19:10 possibly; close to my previous [seed] valkyrie in any case 19:10 nice 19:11 congrats jilles 19:11 Right, reading the bit where you can saddle wargs as an orc 19:12 jilles: i think i saw your name earlier today when i looked up solanum, can that be? 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6492 19:13 setseed merge with latest vanilla 3.7 code complete 19:13 w00t 19:14 -!- Roho has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:14 stenno, yes, but it's from the past 19:14 gotcha, neat 19:14 I wrote a lot of ircd code but I've pretty much moved on from that 19:15 one warning during compile that looks setseed specific - https://termbin.com/u63j 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3954 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:7067 19:19 dunno if anyone of you is into soccer, but something groundbreaking just happened 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4321 19:19 several european top teams are leaving their national leagues to form a new league 19:19 oh wow, that seems very big 19:20 -!- microlance has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20 its insanity 19:20 for soccer, aren't most of the international events like, one off events or events in a series? before this, there was no like, european league like there is among american states? 19:20 at least no german clubs are involved 19:20 Neko-chan: correct 19:20 Hi Neko 19:20 everyone is super pissed 19:20 people in /r/soccer are removing their flairs 19:21 interesting. I can imagine. Doesn't seem like a crowd that likes change at all 19:21 but I could see from a sport health perspective it's kinda cool and refreshing 19:21 its done out of greed 19:21 oooh, well, that's bad 19:21 Soccer ownership is like 19:21 hi Umbire 19:21 its fatal for the national leagues 19:21 cartoonishly corrupt 19:21 who would watch the national leagues now that the top teams left 19:21 oh, I guess I was under the impression that they'd be able to coexist for some reason 19:21 That much I remember 19:21 yeah, fair enough 19:22 no one watches 'the minor leagues' here which I presume must be a similar thing 19:22 lets see how it will develop 19:24 60 billion dollar lawsuit from UEFA (european football association) against the founding members 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:7196 19:29 I lived in spain for awhile and was there when they won the world cup 19:29 had no clue what happened or was going on until later but that was a very crazy night 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Stef75's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:7670 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6117 19:31 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 19:35 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7700 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a stalker, on T:8106 19:41 oh spain was insanely good during that time 19:41 we (germany) won the WC later 19:41 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:47 the top 6 teams will leave the premier league 19:47 utter destruction 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8385 19:51 -!- hardfought has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:55 Neko-chan: Does Splice do anything with saddles that you know of? Spawn them on more monsters or in additional places, include special saddles, etc.? 19:55 I already have the bit about Dragonmasters 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:10324 19:58 -!- hardfought has joined #hardfought 20:01 Neko-chan: If you do figure out something to add I've already made the variants section 20:02 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Con Orc Mal Cha), 6396 points, T:10885, killed by an ettin mummy 20:02 -!- Borto has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Excavator, on T:11491 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 247 points, T:760, killed by a gas spore's explosion 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9862 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1065 points, T:1500, killed by a slightly wounded blue jelly 20:17 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:18 Umbire afaik more monsters are generated saddled in splicehack because monsters can ride other monsters, and when a monster is generated as a steed there's a higher chance it'll be saddled 20:18 same is true of evilhack I believe 20:18 Right 20:25 [hdf-us] [un] WdnSpoon (Tou Hum Mal Neu) shouted "Hello World!", on T:469 20:27 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 20:29 Particularly annoying / good when the monster ends up being saddled on a unicorn for that reason. 20:29 At least, if you survive, you have an early unicorn horn. 20:34 [hdf-us] [slex] Roho (Dra Dop Fem Neu), 2171 points, T:2055, quit 20:35 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Wer Nbn Neu), 495 points, T:1324, offed by a dwarf 20:36 !lastgame misha 20:36 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Misha/splicehack/dumplog/1618792018.splice.html 20:36 I read this as "offered by a dwarf" and was WTF 20:36 -!- FootoftheHare has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:37 -!- hardfought has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:40 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 20:42 YASI: Monsters that kill a character near an altar co-aligned to them and leave a bones file will attempt to sacrifice their corpse. 20:45 @v?yellow dragon 20:45 yellow dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: acid petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Attacks: 4d6 breath acid, 3d8 bite physical, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical | Alignment: 7 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 20:45 Whatcha lookin' for 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:11773 20:48 Ah 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:12340 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class V, on T:12341 21:12 You feel that Tyr is well-pleased. You hear a divine music... It sounds like: "CCFGA". 21:13 Nice, won't have to play the guessing game at least 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed twiggets' ghost, the former Brigand, on T:13246 21:17 Always good 21:20 !lastgame twiggets 21:20 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/twiggets/nethack/dumplog/1618790634.nh.html 21:25 -!- Pinkbeas1 has joined #hardfought 21:26 Umbire: monsters are generated with other monsters riding them and I am fairly certain (99%) that they don't always spawn the saddle item when doing so. I think that's fairly unintuitive (but fair) that's worth mentioning 21:26 Took care of it, yeah 21:26 nice 21:26 qt clarified it was a higher chance 21:26 Feel free to do so with anything I might've missed 21:27 oh sorry didn't read the scrollback 21:27 NP lol 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:13477 21:30 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Wer Nbn Neu), 982 points, T:1145, overpowered by a rabid rat 21:30 hmm, if i'm a werecat shouldn't i like catnip? maybe just not in human form? 21:34 or maybe eat isn't the right interaction (even though it's a comestible) 21:45 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Wer Nbn Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1559 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:15164 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:15264 21:50 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 21:54 [hdf-us] [spl] Misha (Val Wer Nbn Neu), 1687 points, T:2150, dismembered by a hill orc 21:54 i actually used to be good at this game 21:54 at nethack in general, or splice? 21:54 nethack in general 21:54 most of the stuff i keep dying of is not splice-specific, though 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:15942 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:16306 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided green slimes, on T:16321 22:14 LarienTelrunya: I see you lurking Amy, come on out :3 22:14 Your wand called wishing breaks apart and explodes! You aren't hurt! 22:14 AH F... 22:14 D: 22:14 No bag? 22:14 Forgot to put it into bag 22:15 Aw man 22:15 :| 22:15 Not that I would need it soon, already had good armor 22:16 -!- Pinkbeas1 has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:17 [hdf-us] [slshm] simpleliquid (Sam Hum Mal Law), 17431 points, T:6236, killed by invisible Ruggo the Gnome King, while helpless 22:25 @v?lord surtur 22:25 Lord Surtur (H) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire petrification | Confers: fire | MR: 50 | Generates: unique | AC: 2 | Attacks: 2d10 weapon physical, 2d10 weapon physical, 2d6 claw amulet steal | Alignment: 12 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:18192 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18195 22:25 a giant drops a convenient wand of death 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:18346 22:29 Convenient indeed 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:18953 22:38 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 22:41 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 22:48 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 22:48 -!- rothfuss.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ SlashTHEM 0.9.5 now available to play! 22:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 22:49 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 22:50 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 22:50 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 22:50 hmm 22:52 <{Demo}1> hmmmm indeed 22:52 thinking emoji 22:53 save, reload, says incompatible game 22:53 starts new game 22:56 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 22:57 <{Demo}1> its really a commentary on nethack as a whole if you think about it (??????) 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:16156 23:00 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 67561 points, T:16251, killed by an uninjured minotaur 23:03 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 23:03 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 23:04 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 23:09 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 23:09 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:09 -!- Kougyoku has joined #hardfought 23:10 hahahah 23:10 i am silly 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 391 points, T:2468, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 23:16 why do you say so K2? 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:23426 23:18 I mean... just look at him. isn't he silly? 23:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (monks), on T:30203 23:19 Have fun. 23:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 129555 points, T:30203, killed by genocidal confusion 23:22 <{Demo}1> rip :( 23:22 rip 23:22 RIP 23:23 ooh snap 23:23 <@nabru> rip. 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1578 23:26 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 23:26 there we go 23:26 in patchlevel.h forgot to change version compat 23:26 oopsies 23:28 Oh sheesh 23:29 Almost 2 minutes between read log and death log 23:30 <@nabru> ! lastgame dbanethacker 23:30 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1618640180.evil.html 23:31 Umbire prob because they didnt end the game 23:31 prob realized what he did 23:31 That's the implication I was making, yes 23:31 took a couple min to replace the kboard he just destroyed 23:35 I'm sure you're sick of me by now but I have to ask 23:35 Has anyone here thought to test interactions with riding pet wumpuses over water while on a cursed saddle? 23:36 i havent 23:36 Hmmmmm 23:37 aosdict: I'm about to dl xnh and test this out, anything I should look for? 23:37 (when downloading, that is) 23:39 sike, no mention of W10 23:39 ah well nbd 23:39 lemme try this in evil 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 0 points, T:50, killed by a wounded fox 23:41 -!- Kougyoku has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:41 ...right, still have to compile 6_9 23:41 don't feel like fiddling with all that yet just for the sake of a one off 23:43 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 23:43 [hdf-us] [seed] omghax (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:3, rt[0:00:36], wc[0:00:39], killed by a falling object 23:43 !lastgame omghax 23:43 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/setseed/dumplog/1618803778.seed.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/unnethack/dumplog/1617512142.un.txt.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/unnethack/dumplog/1617512773.un.txt.html 23:44 ok nice 23:45 brb 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] joan (Tou Hum Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:4579 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1128 23:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] joan (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4952 23:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 559 points, T:1295, killed by a giant mosquito, while unconscious from rotten food 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1807 23:59 apparently "potion of restore" gives a random healing postion 23:59 potion* 23:59 as a wish