00:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] DracoMorbis (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 512 points, T:500, killed by a woodchuck 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Cav Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:9243 00:11 [hdf-us] [slshm] DracoMorbis (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 264 points, T:334, killed by a newt, while helpless 00:14 [hdf-us] [seed] Glord (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1548 points, T:2609, rt[0:12:59], wc[8 days, 3:29:31], quit 00:22 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Yeo Elf Mal Law), 127731 points, T:14538, killed by an air elemental 00:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] DracoMorbis (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 10 points, T:1015, killed by the wrath of Thoth 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 182 points, T:1067, killed by a piranha 00:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 400 points, T:1777, killed by a gnome zombie 00:58 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:44846 01:05 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:44869 01:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:19 [hdf-us] [slex] Dogmeat (Sec Dop Fem Neu), 23927 points, T:10094, killed by a monster (Inspector Lieutenant) 01:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45778 01:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:45779 01:40 @le?Inspector Lieutenant 01:40 Inspector Lieutenant (K) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: special | AC: 7 | Attacks: 1d8 weapon physical | Alignment: 11 | Flags: genocidable, infravisible 01:41 !lastgame Dogmeat 01:41 Umby: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Dogmeat/slex/dumplog/1618343858.slex.txt 01:42 If I'm reading right they got smashed for like 30 damage in that swing 01:44 [hdf-us] [slshm] Dogmeat (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 376 points, T:586, killed by a bat 01:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Fire Brand", on T:46189 01:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:46415 01:58 -!- tungtn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:58 -!- khoR has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:10 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Quit: spicyCebolla] 02:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:16 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18 -!- Umby has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1236 points, T:1167, killed by a piranha 02:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1996 02:36 [hdf-us] [slshm] Dogmeat (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 312 points, T:461, killed by a brown mold 02:42 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] Dogmeat (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 2930 points, T:1630, killed by a baby gray dragon 03:13 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 03:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 12976 points, T:4992, poisoned by an orcish arrow 03:25 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 03:35 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:37 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:4923 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4984 04:15 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:51 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3028 05:14 [hdf-au] [un] PeachMuffin (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 1189 points, T:840, killed by a giant spider 05:18 go team s 05:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Ran Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3477 05:30 oh great 05:30 scroll of punishment 05:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 522 points, T:2649, died of starvation 05:38 crystal plate mail. nice 05:43 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 05:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6358 06:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3363 06:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Ran Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:7761 06:11 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 06:12 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Hum Fem Law), 36335 points, T:18723, killed by invisible Mr. Cold-blooded Kilgarvan, the shopkeeper 06:13 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:6818 06:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hilliance (Tou Hum Mal Neu) stole 933 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Raciborz's liquor emporium, on T:23302 06:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hilliance (Tou Hum Mal Neu) stole 1359 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Yawolloh's hardware store, on T:23519 06:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 16083 points, T:8815, killed by a boulder 06:24 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of Singhend, the former Evoker, on T:1249 06:35 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 782 points, T:1980, killed by a gnome 06:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hilliance (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:23847 06:39 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 06:40 i typoed 06:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 9893 points, T:5930, petrified by a chickatrice corpse 06:43 one of each altar in the same room :o 06:43 thats a special room 06:44 bezaban: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Themed_room 06:52 <@Joanna> Meep 06:58 i hate it 06:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1011 points, T:1867, killed by a wand 07:02 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:04 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 07:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (water nymphs), on T:1293 07:15 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4406 points, T:4225, killed by a soldier ant 07:15 damn new moon 07:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 946 points, T:2367, killed by strangulation 07:17 Heh, my wife started learning to play nethack. She lasted 3 levels before it became too much for her! "Learning too much at once!" 07:17 "You feel your brain puffing up!" 07:18 Yep, so now she doesn't even want to watch me play! 07:19 (I'm playing on my own, now!) 07:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7556 07:22 !whereis Arahael 07:22 NetSysFire: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil]: (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) T:1406 The Dungeons of Doom level: 5 07:23 I'm now back to my own game - I had my wife playing vanilla on my account. I'm not /that/ nasty. 07:23 -!- Septieme has joined #hardfought 07:23 I'm in a bad mood 07:24 playing slex surely helps to cheer you up 07:24 finally got an ascension run going, and then YASD in a pit with a rubber chicken 07:25 and learned the valuable lesson a bit too late that you need to regrease your helmet after every mind flayer attack 07:25 'right outside moloch's sanctum' late 07:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 531 points, T:1006, killed by a wounded dwarf 07:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:8823 07:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:8877 07:32 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:32 Septieme: I had a *really* good game last night... Then my wife tapped on my hand to get my attention... 07:32 lol 07:32 Septieme: Which made me press 's' by mistake whilst a monster was attacking me. 07:32 ah shite 07:32 (I'm still not over it!) 07:32 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?697 07:32 this was the furthest I had gotten in 6 years on the other hand 07:32 heh 07:34 gonna have to be *even more thorough* next time I guess 07:35 Septieme: Here's to your next 6-year game. :) 07:35 was out of holy water and had forgotten the scroll of charging 07:35 last time I got to nom was I think a year ago 07:35 playing on and off 07:35 Arahael: sounds like you could have used that nice 3.7 feature that prevents you from idly searching next to a monster 07:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1970 07:36 aosdict: Sure would've been nice. K2 doesn't believe in such nonsense, sadly. 07:38 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 07:40 -!- stenno2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:43 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1146 points, T:2377, killed by a bolt of cold 07:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:9390 07:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 25090 points, T:9460, killed by an uninjured pyrolisk 07:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 7684 points, T:3061, killed by an uninjured invisible master lich 07:59 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 07:59 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1380 points, T:1180, killed by a giant rat 08:00 -!- Septieme has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:04 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3773 08:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4105 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4255 08:10 Arahael - https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/k2.evilrc 08:10 scroll to the bottom 08:10 look for '# hit messages (help stop deaths from riding movement keys)' 08:11 same for riding the 's' or '.' keys 08:11 K2: A badly timed *tap* to the hands is still going to cause problems! But those are a great idea. 08:11 i need to update that section since evilhack has descriptive hits messages 08:12 Will keep that in a tab for now until I can update the RC. 08:12 but that section right there is g2g for vanilla nethack 08:12 but vanilla nethack doesn't need it any more right 08:12 it doesn't let you hold down . or s when you're next to a monster 08:12 depends 08:13 i hate that feature in vanilla nethack where you have to hit 'm' first before you can search/rest next to a monster. at least its an option the player can toggle on/off 08:13 In my case I wasn't holding it down. 08:13 oh you can disable that? I didn't know that 08:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2938 08:13 Arahael, hold down/tap tap tap - same thing 08:13 I think that feature in vanilla is OK except it shouldn't ask you every damn time.. 08:13 what's the option to disable it? 08:13 qt i'll find it 08:13 oh no worries I can find it I'm sure 08:14 I thought you might know off the top of your head 08:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:20756 08:14 K2: I think I was doing 'attack, attack, now hang on...", and that was when my wife tapped my hand. 08:14 OPTIONS=!safe_wait 08:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3026 08:14 ^ toggles it off 08:14 thanks 08:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3033 08:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20757 08:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Val Hum Fem Law), 2039 points, T:3539, killed by an uninjured giant bat 08:18 so glad i'm over the 2nd shot 08:18 was only for about 10 hrs or so but body aches/fever, blah 08:19 i had 'whiny man-fever' 08:19 you sure you didnt get bitten by a lycanthrope? 08:19 oh i'm already a werewolf, that wasnt it 08:19 i have a stupid monster idea but amy isnt here :( 08:19 she reads the irc logs 08:19 whatcha got 08:21 a unicorn dragon. basically a normal dragon but it has a large horn which it can use to impale enemies 08:21 its not relate to unicorns but it only has one horn, so 08:21 hmm 08:21 I feel like it might already exist 08:21 many dragons already have horns though right? 08:22 amateurhour hah slex already has a unicorn dragon? 08:22 yeah but they are too short 08:22 I think so, might not be called exactly that 08:22 but with so many monsters it's hard to find unicorns, so loads of fake unicorns were added 08:23 ooof 08:24 otherwise how are you meant to ever get a unicorn horn? (which can break in slex when applying) 08:24 :P 08:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Curate, on T:28829 08:32 huh 08:33 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 08:33 whats more like dark souls? evilhack or slex? 08:37 are you asking which is harder? 08:37 @@le?unicorn dragon 08:37 unicorn dragon ~5~ picture dragon (D) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire | Confers: fire | MR: 20 | Generates: special | AC: -2 | Attacks: 4d6 breath fire, 4d4 bite physical, 3d2 lashing physical, 3d2 gaze confuse | Alignment: -4 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis, infravisible 08:37 i cant see any way to compare them, but i guess evilhack is more like dark souls mostly because they lack the shoes and stds 08:38 slex is longer and prone to kill you with bullshit 08:38 both are much harder to win then any dark souls tho, slex is impossible to win more or less 08:38 @lt?shock hound 08:38 shock hound (d) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 14 | Res: shock | Confers: shock | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Attacks: 3d5 bite physical, 3d5 breath shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 08:38 I get much more of a dark souls vibe from evilhack 08:39 how does slex unicorn dragon not have a head butt attack 08:40 that's a picture dragon 08:40 oh i see 08:40 nm 08:40 I'm like 95% sure there's a dragon with a unicorn horn 08:40 @@le?dragon unicorn 08:40 dragon unicorn ~4~ begin unicorn (u) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 1 | Spd: 14 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 9 | Attacks: 1d3 butt physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore 08:41 aosdict: I have noticed a couple problems with colored altars in xnh. I assume this affects any variant that uses the colored altars patch. 08:41 would a unicorn dragon be a D or u? 08:42 possibly D. but u if its a dragon unicorn 08:42 1. converting an altar while invisible doesn't actually update its color until the symbol is redrawn (e.g. you drop something on the altar and pick it back up or something). newsym_force doesn't seem to do anything useful in that regard. 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 12066 points, T:10999, petrified by a wounded cockatrice 08:43 makes sense, if there no unicorn dragons (D) and dragon unicorns (u) amy should implement them 08:43 <@iatrocrat> crap 08:43 <@iatrocrat> i punched a cockatrice ungloved 08:43 <@iatrocrat> i punched a cockatrice ungloved 08:43 F 08:43 oops 08:43 2. (much more minor) mimics who conceal themselves as an altar have a random alignment (e.g. farlook will say "chaotic altar") but their color is always the color of the unaligned altar. it doesn't match the color of a real altar 08:44 literally unplayable 08:46 slex? 08:46 i nitpick therefore i am 08:48 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3784 points, T:2662, killed by a sewer rat 08:49 qt: I feel like I've heard and fixed that bug before 08:50 there was clearly an effort to fix it because there are comments that suggest it's fixed 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 128 points, T:1439, killed by a nearly deceased bat 08:50 but it's still happening. maybe it has to do with updates upstream to the display system (glyphinfo?) 08:50 nearly deceased? 08:50 is that some necromancy thing? 08:50 he's only mostly dead 08:51 aaaaasss yoooooouuuuuu wwwwwiiiiissssshhhhh 08:51 ... how have I not added that as gravestone text yet 08:51 lol 08:52 does quicksand exist in any variant? 08:53 it's iocaine powder, i'd bet my life on it! 08:53 ^ best line in the movie 08:53 NetSysFire: slex probably 08:53 pro tip, slex is almost always a likely answer to "does X exist in any variant" 08:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:41254 08:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Inc Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Greased Bag of Holding", on T:7642 08:55 jeez there are no shops that accept scrolls, rings, or potions in my current game. really having a hard time kickstarting identification of my inventory... 08:55 i angered the watch 08:55 kick things into the shop maybe qt? 08:55 if you have an unrelated shop 08:56 yeah maybe I will have to do that 08:57 qt: if newsym_force doesn't cut it then I don't know what to do, sorry 08:58 fwiw this happens in vanilla too 08:58 trying to convert a moloch altar while invisible 08:58 <{Demo}1> ha 08:58 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:66639 08:59 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 432 points, T:753, killed by a cave spider 09:04 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:04 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 09:04 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 117001 points, T:30125, killed by an uninjured human zombie 09:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Inc Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:8447 09:05 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 462 points, T:339, killed by a kitten 09:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Gia Fem Law), 9103 points, T:5904, killed by a dwarf queen 09:11 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had a club bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:55432 09:13 aosdict: I think I fixed it. not sure if this might have some sort of weird side effect though https://termbin.com/60e9 09:13 <@Joanna> Proper job interview next week :o 09:13 <@Joanna> Pog 09:13 nice aoei 09:14 gogo 09:15 ascend to job 09:15 <@Joanna> Lol :D 09:15 <@Joanna> The ecommerce firm with the Perl backend job, they still like me so we do a proper video interview with the team on Wednesday 🤓 09:17 aosdict that change seems to remove the need for newsym_force as well 09:17 wait are those the people who said "ah well actually we are not hiring" 09:18 like with this change the altars still seem to change color appropriately https://termbin.com/cq39 09:18 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0] 09:20 dammit qt stop giving me bug fixes when I'm stuck on the new-arc-quest branch and have a lot of uncommitted work :P 09:20 i don't know if there is some potential negative repercussions from always updating the symbol when the color changes, the comment seems to imply it just "wasn't necessary" though 09:21 I can't think of any other case where the glyph remains the same but the color doesn't 09:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] Dogmeat (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 625 points, T:1186, killed by a magical explosion 09:22 -!- b93 has joined #hardfought 09:22 but you may want to submit this as a vanilla PR? since it's a vanilla bug 09:22 yeah I guess so 09:22 <@Joanna> No aosdict that was something else 09:23 <@Joanna> The no we're not hiring in the end was a JS frontend job 09:23 <@Joanna> In Munich 09:23 <@Joanna> This is Perl, backend, ecommerce outfit based in Hamburg 09:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hilliance (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:27872 09:24 <@Joanna> Altho my original application to the ecommerce firm was for senior JS frontend dev and HR phone interview was "yeah we want to consider you for another position actually" 09:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1382 points, T:2732, killed by a piranha 09:26 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 639 points, T:969, killed by a troll 09:30 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:67128 09:32 [hdf-eu] [slth] nytka (Div Tro Fem Cha), 324 points, T:1440, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 09:34 -!- Borto has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:35 company president? 09:35 <@Joanna> 😂 09:36 <@Joanna> Backend Perl witch writing arcane runewords 09:37 IDK about you, but "we want you to do Perl, not JS" would be welcome news to me. 09:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Inc Fem Neu) destroyed the Legion, on T:9601 09:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:38 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:67593 09:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4617 09:39 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 09:39 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 09:39 -!- tungtn has joined #hardfought 09:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v tungtn] by ChanServ 09:41 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:56183 09:41 [hdf-us] [gh] arnibald (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:56186 09:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] Dogmeat (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 1024 points, T:1584, killed by a dung worm 09:42 <@Joanna> Pinkbeast same 09:43 <@Joanna> In fact I have barely any actual JS experience, Perl I'm fairly comfy with 09:43 <@Joanna> Tho there are some things about it that annoy me 09:43 <@Joanna> It is a lang I can work with 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:1434 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1718 points, T:1776, killed by a piranha 09:51 are you going to write react then? 09:51 stenno: no... 09:51 it's a Perl job 09:51 I wrote a React app as a coding exercise for the Munich gig 09:51 uh alright then 09:52 that was junior JS 09:52 i see 09:52 Hamburg eCommerce firm I *applied* for senior JS 09:52 and then HR were like "lol ur not a senior JS dev r u joking?" 09:52 "The watch captain's silver saber shatters from the force of your blow! The watch captain turns to flee. You kill the watch captain!" 09:52 :/ 09:52 >.< 09:52 but then followed that with "but, and it's a big butt" 09:52 stenno just salty that he can't talk js professionally with anyone 09:52 "we have another position we think would b good fit for u" 09:53 aosdict: XD 09:53 <{Demo}1> aosdict, without a consulting fee 09:53 i talk to the people in ##javascript and #node.js 09:53 they are pretty professional 09:53 <{Demo}1> anybody willing to talk about js for free is mentally ill 09:53 TC-39 members 09:53 sounds like a bundle of laughs 09:54 stenno: marketing tip, change it to nude.js to attract more interest 09:54 <{Demo}1> lmfao 09:54 lol 09:54 hehe 09:54 no need to, its already extremely popular 09:55 JS is fine honestly 09:55 it is 09:55 <{Demo}1> what about #js-oneliner-hell-but-its-not-codegolf 09:56 you mean ##jsgolf ? 09:56 <{Demo}1> no 09:56 not much activity in there anymore 09:56 <{Demo}1> its not codegolf 09:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:5711 09:56 <{Demo}1> its oneliner hell 09:56 npm is a mixed bag, because it's really convenient and people just shit out their one-liner packages 09:56 <{Demo}1> usually longer than a potentially shorter solution 09:56 oh 09:56 yeah because the package contains a whole copy of the MIT license or whatever 09:56 we have something called 'ecmasports' in ##javascript 09:56 for a one-liner 09:57 <{Demo}1> alright that's pretty good stenno lol 09:57 like there is a simple problem and we try to solve it in an elegant fashion 09:57 i remember one of the serial offenders wrote a medium article to say that they used npm as their personal snippets repository 09:57 and as terse as possible 09:58 i think r/programmingcirclejerk had a field day with that one 09:58 so the solution is to make npm annoying to use? 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 31 points, T:254, killed by a water moccasin 09:58 there's no solution 09:59 just gotta encourage people to write their own stuff and not rely on 30000 shitcode modules 09:59 <{Demo}1> its about getting things done fast 10:00 sure 10:00 <{Demo}1> not well 10:00 <{Demo}1> and its faster to use 30000 shitcode modules 10:00 {Demo}1 can you change your name back to {Demo}3 10:00 https://www.npmjs.com/package/negative-zero https://www.npmjs.com/package/positive-zero 10:00 why 10:00 he's the same color as amateurhour right now 10:00 haha 10:01 <{Demo}1> I would kick the box running it 10:01 <{Demo}1> but its a vps so I can't 10:02 if none of you heard about the leftpad thing it's worth reading about 10:02 back then JS actually didn't have a left-pad function 10:02 yeah, though it's not that hard to write one 10:02 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 2740 points, T:3014, killed by a giant ant 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 169 points, T:619, killed by a water elemental 10:03 a lot of things seem to be easy to write, but aren't, because of strange edge cases 10:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:6188 10:04 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 10:05 especially in a language like JS where you have implicit type coercion 10:05 <{Demo}1> and you trust some other jackass that pushed a shitty npm module to write it instead? 10:06 well i can read it once 10:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 256 points, T:370, killed by touching Grimtooth 10:06 also i can check GH issues 10:07 <{Demo}1> yeah but that isn't the same as thinking through the problem and coming up with a solution yourself and realizing "oh shit theres this edge case", and you might never reach that thought if you are just reading something someone else wrote 10:07 i've experienced that the opposite is the case tbf 10:07 <{Demo}1> honestly me too 10:08 <{Demo}1> where im dumb and dont think of the edge case but they did 10:09 yeah 10:10 after all the goal should be to write robust code in a decent timeframe 10:11 if all of your projects start with you writing 1000 sloc of helper functions first... 10:12 many of those absurd npm packages were written before JS actually natively had the functionality 10:12 also quite some are written by trolls or as 'satire' 10:13 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1421 10:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Inc Fem Neu), 673693 points, T:10631, killed by Axus, while frozen by the gaze of Axus 10:17 ascend !lastgame Som 10:17 !lastgame Som 10:17 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Som/dnethack/dumplog/1618327750.dnh.txt 10:18 don't know where that 'ascend' came from 10:18 <{Demo}1> your hands ascended up your keyboard 10:19 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 10:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] Dogmeat (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 386 points, T:717, killed by a hobbit 10:26 how do i sell dwarvish mattocks and pick axes to shops? 10:26 <{Demo}1> put them in a bag 10:27 <{Demo}1> or a box 10:27 <{Demo}1> just any container 10:27 <{Demo}1> smuggle it in 10:27 once you are inside the shop you can take it out of the container and drop it like usual 10:27 <{Demo}1> pull it out, get bitched at, and i forgot if they will buy it or not 10:27 They can. 10:27 they will buy it... they're all bark and no bite 10:27 Pickaxes sell decently well, too. 10:28 <{Demo}1> i just know they bitch u don't get actually mad 10:28 <{Demo}1> ok that sentence lost a lot of words 10:36 "Hello, hothraxxa! Welcome to Nenagh's second-hand bookstore!" 10:36 Nenagh killed me 10:36 says the shopkeeper with 18 scrolls and no books 10:38 <{Demo}1> the scrolls are pages from a book 10:38 <{Demo}1> it is a VERY secondhand book 10:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Arc Hob Mal Law), 523 points, T:1682, killed by a piranha 10:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:38 is that how the actual scrolls are made 10:38 just take a spellbook of identify, rip out pages, get ?oID 10:42 -!- hardfought has joined #hardfought 10:42 i finally got a floating eye corpse 10:44 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1162 points, T:981, killed by a rothe 10:44 <{Demo}1> yani: you can bash monsters with eyes with a floating eye corpse to paralyze them 10:44 i think you'd have to apply it, it'd be kinda like holding up a mirror 10:45 like the head of medusa 10:45 where's the catch (like falling into a pit with a c corpse)? 10:45 you must wield it 10:46 and maybe if you fall into a pit while wielding it you paralyze yourself 10:51 <{Demo}1> assuming you aren't blind 10:53 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Quit: spicyCebolla] 10:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 538 points, T:524, killed by an uninjured gnome 10:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:42050 11:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Medusa, on T:42260 11:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] autolycus (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:5891 11:04 Hi. I received mail in-game, someone sent something? 11:05 What did it say? 11:05 oh hey demo great minds I posted that as a yani before 11:05 blank 11:05 <{Demo}1> not as a yasi? 11:06 yeah as a yani 11:06 but the archive hasn't been updated since last YEAR 11:06 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] autolycus (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6000 11:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 457 points, T:1200, killed by a magic missile 11:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a stone small shield entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:6198 11:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] autolycus (Rog Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed sack containing 33 items on an altar, on T:6017 11:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ran Bat Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2163 11:09 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 11:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6173 points, T:3405, killed by a wounded owlbear 11:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:44293 11:18 aaaaaaaaa i hate it i would have been killed again by footrices if i didnt have gloves 11:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:44312 11:24 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:25 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 11:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 467 points, T:929, killed by a moderately wounded dwarf 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1268 points, T:1364, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:3876 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4370 11:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4490 11:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ran Bat Fem Neu), 6578 points, T:3314, killed by a rothe 11:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 10821 points, T:6395, killed by a magic missile 11:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:47241 12:05 <{Demo}1> german people im watching a video where the guy is calling factorial faculty and his accent is like really british sounding but with some german sounds every now and then am im just confused. can anyone explain these behaviors? 12:06 the factorial is called Fakultät in german 12:06 there are many people in germany which were both british and german but they had to decide because of the brexit. maybe 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Thor, her faithful little dog, on T:211 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:9, killed by an exploding crystal ball 12:08 <{Demo}1> its confusing cause he seems base british with some German influence on his accent but then why would he call it faculty and not factorial 12:09 <{Demo}1> so it must be the other way around maybe but then why would his accent sound so britishy 12:10 He learned English from British-accented sources? 12:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Graznop (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:25320 12:10 <{Demo}1> yeah but they all do that i thought 12:10 <{Demo}1> and they dont usually end up sounding so british 12:10 Might depend on the amount of American TV watched growing up, some people are much better at accents than others, etc... 12:11 -!- hardfought has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] autolycus (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 8901 points, T:8341, killed by a badly wounded gray unicorn 12:12 The British Army of the Rhine only left in '94, could just have a bilingual background 12:13 <{Demo}1> that would make the most sense 12:13 <{Demo}1> something like that 12:14 A British soldier parent may not have said "factorial" much, in the same way my British mathematician parents don't say "rifle" all that much :-) 12:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:14 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:14 <{Demo}1> yeah 12:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:19627 12:18 finally 12:19 !booze 12:19 * Beholder tosses nabru a schooner of the sauce, acquired by demogorgon at 71 degrees Fahrenheit. 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1085 12:22 people (or bots, /me glares at Beholder) who use imperial units deserve to be engulfed by juiblex 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1749 points, T:1182, killed by an orcish arrow 12:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:20085 12:24 woooo 12:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:33 can i trouble any of y'all for "TimesNewRomanPSMT" so i can import a pdf better 12:33 this form literally looks like a butt 12:35 If it literally looks like a butt I'm not sure a change of font will help. 12:35 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 12:41 what if i like big butts 12:41