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:3 02:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 759 points, T:1415, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 02:20 <@iatrocrat> Andrio: i kicked this gemstone out of the shop when he left his position 02:21 <@iatrocrat> just to see what would happen if i kicked it out the door 02:21 <@iatrocrat> i had no money 02:21 Ah 02:22 So you were stealing. 02:22 <@iatrocrat> that was the stupidest thing ive done today 02:22 <@iatrocrat> aughh 02:22 F 02:22 And knowing is half the battle. 02:24 -!- mackeyth has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 02:26 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 02:36 [hdf-us] [slex] cyx (Pre Lvl Mal Cha), 11500 points, T:1, quit 02:36 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:51 <@luxidream> !lastgame oatmeal 02:51 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oatmeal/nethack/dumplog/1618273674.nh.html 02:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:1829 02:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 365 points, T:1900, killed by a moderately wounded newt, while fainted from lack of food 03:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 383 points, T:788, killed by an uninjured killer bee 03:09 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 344 points, T:1470, killed by an uninjured gnome lady, while sleeping 03:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8950 03:23 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) murdered Kuro, his faithful black dragon, on T:48130 03:23 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) murdered his faithful ogre king, on T:48130 03:28 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 03:30 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:48235 03:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:9208 03:32 <@Joanna> Hi 03:32 Hello @Joanna, Welcome to #hardfought 03:36 -!- Menchers has quit [Quit: Into the Void…] 03:40 -!- stenno1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 03:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 844 points, T:1787, killed by an uninjured giant bat 03:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) murdered Chue, her faithful kitten, on T:7 03:47 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 10 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:28568 03:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 9 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:28752 04:02 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 3323 points, T:2115, killed by a dart 04:09 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 04:11 [hdf-au] [spl] PeachMuffin (Tou Hum Nbn Neu), 931 points, T:1062, killed by a wooden dart 04:18 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 1293 points, T:1312, killed by a poisonous cloak 04:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4073 points, T:4441, killed by an uninjured white unicorn 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:12230 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 47124 points, T:12264, killed by nearly deceased Medusa 04:37 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:48604 04:38 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:48634 04:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3205 04:41 -!- Menchers has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3406 points, T:3398, killed by a barrow wight, while praying 04:43 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:35657 04:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:43 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:35663 04:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 270 points, T:1375, killed by slightly wounded Ms. Zum Loch; the shopkeeper 04:48 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 04:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 439 points, T:1490, killed by withering away, while praying 05:01 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 190 points, T:262, killed by a gnome 05:02 -!- Septieme has joined #hardfought 05:02 Finally got to the castle for the second time ever 05:02 is there any way to check luck other than potion of enlightenment? 05:06 <@luxidream> you can tell if your luck is less than the maximum 05:06 <@luxidream> by sacrificing a corpse on an altar 05:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:09 aight 05:09 so that's the plan now 05:10 get the wand, and LvPort the heck out to the altar 05:10 sac until we get some proof of things being fine 05:10 luxidream: How's that? 05:10 I think based off of the feeling statements 05:11 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 05:11 <@luxidream> if you sacrifice a corpse that is high enough difficulty and you don't get a clover 05:11 <@luxidream> your luck is maximized 05:12 Ah, nice. 05:12 also is there any specifics to how you wish for magic markers like in case of say, armor? 05:12 You can also use a wand of enlightenment, or blessed potion of hallucination. I think there are other indirect ways involving the amount of treasure you get from kicking thrones 05:13 Or fountain quaffing 05:13 General advice is to wish for an uncursed magic marker, then bless the paper. 05:13 That way you can also write cursed scrolls later. 05:13 ah 05:14 cursed scrolls such as? 05:14 cursed teleport I don't need 05:15 Genocide, teleportation, enchant weapon/armour, earth 05:15 Also destroy armour. ;) 05:15 Destroy armor 05:16 I'll have to see how that is of any use, because as of yet I'm always blanking those 05:17 There are quite a few ways to have fun with cursed scrolls of genocide. 05:17 Especially if you're missing dragon scales or want more HP. 05:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2071 05:18 Cursed teleportation is useful, but I tend to have lots of those anyway. Earth is OK in Sokoban if you only need one boulder. 05:18 genocide is easliy the best use for cursed scrolls. 05:18 Cursed destroy armour can erodeproof your armour. 05:19 be careful with it though. 05:19 yeah that's what I just read 05:19 but not something you wanna do willy nilly 05:20 what would I wanna revgeno though? 05:20 nothing exactly comes to mind 05:20 What's your equipment situation? 05:21 You can always save your marker or wishes for later also. 05:21 not too great or too bad 05:21 +3 GDSM from a wish 05:21 the same +3 small shield from the start but rotting 05:22 1 lv of that 05:22 Ah, ok 05:22 burnt +0 gloves, oilskin cloak and lev boots 05:22 all burnt and +0 05:22 Nice. 05:22 I thought that lev wouldn't trigger fire traps but apparently not 05:23 indeed~ 05:23 and it was in a choke point in the castle I couldn't circumvent, and an ogre blasted all my wands with a single lightning strike 05:23 so I couldn't dig around either 05:23 Oof 05:23 So no reflection? 05:24 I do have the "oR 05:24 and a polished silver shield stashed away 05:24 though I still have no BoH 05:24 You probably should have been wearing one. 05:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 8985 points, T:12617, killed by an uninjured ochre jelly, while frozen by a monster's gaze 05:24 Slimed 05:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3082 05:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Dagger", on T:3088 05:25 Anyway, unless you really want to nurse dance, I'd save the marker. 05:26 Or you could summon wraiths to unlock your quest. 05:26 but not on the castle. 05:27 yeah I realized I may have accidentally taken it off while using  towels for telepathy 05:27 I put it back on 05:27 ah. 05:27 this is why I like to assign inventory letters for everything. 05:27 didn't check that I wasn't blind, hit Remove, and took off the amulet automatically 05:28 e.g. U for a shield and n for a blindfold 05:28 There's a paranoid-confirm flag that makes the game ask what to remove even if you only have one applicable item. 05:28 I'll have to go turn that one on then 05:28 mm~ 05:34 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:49133 05:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29385 05:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29387 05:45 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 05:48 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a magical leather ornamental cope entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:4174 05:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6207 05:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4213 05:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:29623 05:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 06:00 ok so saccing got me a 4LC 06:02 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 06:03 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 286 points, T:1125, killed by a wererat 06:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:4775 06:04 EPI: Cancellation can remove object properties from items in variants with object properties. 06:05 so basically turn the thing into something made of genericium? 06:06 considering how iron has been causing me more problems than benefits, that'll just make it a lot easier to use 06:06 no rusting 06:06 or spellcasting penalties 06:07 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:07 Septieme: no, it doesn't transform the object, it just strips it of the magical property 06:07 your long sword of fire is now just a long sword 06:08 t-shirt of drain resistance is not just a shirt 06:08 etc. 06:08 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 06:08 oh those object properties 06:08 was confusing it with the material property patch thin 06:10 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 06:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:7721 06:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed twiggets' ghost, the former Bandit, on T:7793 06:13 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 06:15 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:7848 06:17 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:17 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 06:20 ok so got a magic marker and a bag of holding 06:20 what should be the next wish? 06:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6931 points, T:6138, killed by a werewolf 06:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 143 points, T:453, killed by a hobbit 06:27 flying amulet is a nice utility 06:28 aren't those in 3.7? 06:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hill giant, on T:8702 06:32 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 22121 points, T:8876, killed by a nearly deceased small mimic 06:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:3516 06:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3533 06:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3676 06:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1273 points, T:3798, killed by an uninjured kitten, while praying 06:41 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 27972 points, T:15628, killed by a minotaur 06:42 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 10 points, T:49, killed by a fox 06:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2957 06:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:3046 06:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:3609 06:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3665 points, T:3403, killed by a leocrotta 06:57 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 07:02 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 07:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5576 07:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 577 points, T:915, killed by a rothe 07:04 quick question 07:04 is a BoH safe from curses if put into a sack? 07:04 anything in a carried container is not subject to inventory-cursing effects 07:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 16300 points, T:6431, choked on a soldier ant corpse 07:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 431 points, T:863, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:13 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:15 Slash'EM Extended updated (all servers) 07:15 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-04-12 23:09 EDT: *bundlebundlebundle* the slex bugfixes on the master branch would like to go live on hdf ♥ (sorry for nagging) 07:16 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:19 so keeping my old sack is still useful, if only to hold /oC and the BoH 07:20 so what do I get with wish number 3 before I charge it? 07:21 I would not put my BoH in a sack, too fiddly 07:22 but it would at least save me from the thing that ended my run last time 07:23 of a cursed BOH 07:23 Just zap it with cancellation 07:24 I feel like there's some irony in that while putting a /oC is destructive to a BoH, but actually zapping it is A ok 07:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 419 points, T:1330, killed by an uninjured shocking sphere 07:33 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 07:36 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a cloth armor entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:1688 07:38 [hdf-us] [slex] Dogmeat (Wiz Lic Fem Neu), 22627 points, T:5053, killed by a shotgun shell 07:55 So I've got about 4,5 more wishes left. 07:55 What do with them? 07:55 Just wish a full on equipment makeover? 07:55 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:56 I'd post a dump, but one option is to save one for emergencies 07:56 I assume that 'emergency wish' is preferably one that needn't be wrested? 07:57 I am looking through the spoiler page rigth now 07:58 what gear and ac do you have atm? 07:59 got reflection and MR? 07:59 yep yep 07:59 "oR and GDSM 08:00 hi owo 08:00 i am here to procrastinate 08:00 anyone got any good stories or memes 08:00 let me have it 08:01 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 08:04 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:05 -!- NetSysFire has joined #hardfought 08:06 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3582 08:09 K2: sorry to bother you yet again, but can you add the eddsa key fingerprints to the website? there are only the rsa and ecdsa ones on there 08:09 how are speed boots as a wish Idea? 08:09 the one i got is SHA256:jtfTeuOBXDZXoC8hcbi1+qtH8bQb9L9LzFONwqSdLqs., is it legitimate? 08:09 amateurhour: gief me da memes 08:11 welcome to the cooler server NetSysFire :) 08:11 ha thanks, Arahael convinced me 08:11 but i will stay on both, especially because i want to try the dark souls of nethack 08:12 :) 08:12 which variant is that? 08:12 evil 08:12 don't say slex, don't play slex 08:12 ah right 08:12 Yeah, I made that mistake one bad dark evening. Never play slex. 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:21372 08:13 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 08:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:19 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4446 08:20 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 08:25 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 08:25 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:26 Arahael I made the mistake of trying it once 08:26 it makes no sense whatsoever 08:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:22161 08:28 NetSysFire: you should totally take part in junethack 08:28 what is that? yet another variant? 08:29 A competition. 08:29 oh no i am bad at those 08:29 https://junethack.net 08:29 NetSysFire: Don't worry - aoei here brought our team ascension ratio down to 0.02% ;) 08:29 it's not a serious competition 08:29 i dont know what you are talking about 08:29 lol 08:29 my ascension ratio is amazing 08:29 haha. :) 08:30 amateurhour: i will think about it :) 08:30 and there's no limit on team sizes as well, so just join a team and hang out and play lots of nethack variants 08:30 you can even play slex for a 1000 turns 08:30 no pressure on winning or anything 08:30 and get a trophy for it 08:30 just a good excuse for trying all the nethack variants out 08:30 and then happily go the rest of the tournament ignoring slex 08:30 hahaha 08:31 i think last junethack was the most fun I've had playing nethack so far, though I only got two ascensions 08:32 spent most of the month splatting dnethack, which was an absolute blast 08:32 yeah I apparently just got one spl ascension and that was it 08:32 and bhaak has apparently not fixed some bugs because it still says I got a bunch of spl trophies I didn't earn 08:33 so u admit to ur cheating ways 08:33 I didn't do nuffin 08:33 is there someway to protect rings from exploding due to shock dmg? 08:33 lol 08:33 ban TeenageNetHackNinjaTurtles pls they have a known history of cheating 08:33 if the scoreboard says I ascended in marathon mode, that's its problem 08:34 i actually might just play strictly vanilla 08:34 this year 08:34 boooo 08:34 because you can't play real vanilla in November 08:34 hisssss 08:34 boooooooo 08:34 booooooooooo 08:34 so it's my only opportunity to play vanilla in a tournament 08:35 sure you can play real vanilla in november... ignore the tnnt additions 08:35 controversial opinion: the only vanilla version that should be in junethack is 1.3d 08:35 aosdict: ehhhh 08:35 its not the same if my competition can reap benefits im ignoring 08:35 aosdict: however, we can still fix tnnt :D 08:35 there's still time 08:35 amateurhour: denied 08:35 no tnnt dev allowed till the third week of october 08:35 amateurhour: I would not mind if that were the case. junethack already has a problem with "cross variant tournament! wait what do you mean most players are just playing vanilla?" 08:36 that's the tradition 08:36 amateurhour: btw are you gonna be teamsplat this time or do ur own thinbg 08:36 teamsplat of course! 08:36 nice 08:36 i thought maybe you would do a thing with your work mate again or something idk 08:36 bhaak: you should award points for playing non vanilla 08:36 yeah that's my thoughts exactly aosdict haha 08:36 :| 08:36 hoping he'll take part and join teamsplat aoei (no team-size limit) 08:37 amateurhour: ah yea 08:37 that 08:37 'd be cool 08:37 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 08:38 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3690 points, T:4206, killed by an ettin zombie 08:38 as for your "tradition" 08:39 spicyCebolla is already kicking our asses into gear with PRs and shit 08:39 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:39 we may need to make her a full devteam member at this rate 08:39 There was a size limit for the previous competition, though - has that been removed? 08:39 Arahael: that was tnnt 08:39 we're talking about junethack now 08:39 Ah, yeah. So it's totally different? 08:39 junethack has no limit 08:39 it's very different yes 08:40 it's spread out across (nearly) all variants on various different active servers 08:40 Interesting. 08:40 Does it still have the tshirt? 08:40 for games to count you just need a # junethack tag in your rcfile and to register the alt 08:40 no tshirt 08:40 if we could convince the other tnnt devs to go no-single-unified-score, there would be less of a reason to cap clan sizes... 08:40 aosdict: hmmm 08:40 No tshirt? :-O 08:40 aosdict: i like your thinking 08:40 Arahael: it's just nethack and variants as they are 08:41 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Athena, on T:37003 08:41 * Arahael sniffs. 08:41 and if we can't fix the brokenness of tnnt, me and luxidream will make our own tournament in like September or something 08:41 shouldn't be playing vanilla anyway imotbh tbhimo >:| 08:41 where it's like vanilla + setseed 08:41 and bones is disabled globally 08:41 it'll be epic 08:42 september speedrun sprint 08:42 and only me and lux and maybe Adeon will play 08:42 kek 08:42 amateurhour: i love that name 08:42 * Arahael likes bones. 08:42 can we use that 08:42 no bones no bots no scripts 08:42 amateurhour: The "SSS"? 08:42 competetive regs 08:42 for hardcore speedrunners and other competetive runs 08:42 needs nethack in the name as well I guess 08:43 nobones nethack speedrun sprint 08:43 NNSS 08:43 september speedrunethack 08:43 or N2S3 08:43 or some shit idk 08:43 this is a working title 08:43 only 08:43 @Luxidream r u in? 08:43 anyways junethack should be about trying the different variants 08:43 ok i have shit to do i should coffee and get back to it 08:43 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:5085 08:44 amateurhour: it should, but we don't have a real vanilla tourney sadly 08:44 so i will play junethack this year as if it's a real vanilla tourney 08:44 maybe more people would try like xnethack or something if vanilla was out 08:44 try 2 stop me 08:44 or the nh4 variants 08:44 ok i might mb play xnh 08:44 a lil 08:44 [hdf-us] [slex] Dogmeat (Wiz Lic Fem Neu), 259 points, T:346, killed by disturbing their deity 08:44 cuz i <3 aosdict 08:44 erm i mean 08:44 did i say that out loud 08:44 Or have a score multiplier when you play multiple variants. 08:44 owo 08:44 i meant i <3 xnethack 08:45 cyas later 08:45 people would just rest for 1000 turns in each variant then go back to vanilla 08:45 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:46 Have a score multipler when you *ascend* multiple variants? 08:46 [hdf-au] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Athena, on T:37117 08:47 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:47 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 829 points, T:1409, killed by an acidic corpse 08:47 most people don't ascend 08:47 so they'd just play vanilla 08:48 according to the stats on nao only like 0.4% of all games ascended 08:48 finally woke up from my long nap, I've heard several irc pinging sounds from my bed... did I miss something important? 08:48 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:48 LarienTelrunya: Uh... 08:48 nope 08:48 LarienTelrunya: We weren't talking about slex. :) 08:49 well I did mention slex, but no it wasn't important 08:49 aww 08:49 * LarienTelrunya reads backscroll 08:49 LarienTelrunya: I'm still not recovered from that game, btw! :D 08:49 double aww :/ 08:49 * Arahael will be scarred for *life*! 08:50 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 344 points, T:484, killed by a large mimic 08:50 (You do realise I used a smiley there, though!) 08:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 1064 points, T:2654, killed by an uninjured pony 08:50 ommmmmmg K2 updated slex on the server ♥ ♥ ♥ 💓 💕 guess that means I'll want to start a new char :) K2 I love you! <3 08:51 lol 08:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:29415 08:51 can anyone confirm that SHA256:jtfTeuOBXDZXoC8hcbi1+qtH8bQb9L9LzFONwqSdLqs., is the legitimate eddsa fingerprint of hardfought.org? 08:51 yaaaaaaay now the game will be much more enjoyable because several annoying bugs are gone! thanks again to Roho for helping me find some of them 08:52 aoei: devnull was also not a vanilla tournament. 08:53 and my wonderful bundleroommate (♥) will pick me up later, we're going to eat some ice cream and order takeaway food from our local greek restaurant, which needs all the support they can get so they don't die (in an economical sense) to corona! 08:53 also, most games are in a variant, aren't they? 08:53 * bhaak checks 08:53 NetSysFire: My ssh fingerprint for hardfought is ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 AAAAE2VjZHNhLXNoYTItbmlzdHAyNTYAAAAIbmlzdHAyNTYAAABBBEXOzI7dzamIRW9eIyX+EdWkrNcM29o4E+FiIL9j0uliOkhpk+7P/L68/1LmVKXWNRIzPf/Y/xmnwervNYU0ILQ- 08:53 NetSysFire: (if that helps?) 08:53 yeah: https://junethack.net/activity 08:53 usagi:.ssh$ ssh-keygen -l -f known_hosts |grep jtfTeuOBXDZXoC8h 08:53 the ecdsa and rsa ones are on the website but my clients wants eddsa 08:53 ... nothing 08:54 aka ed25519 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2798 08:54 amateurhour: lol since when are you team anti-slex :P (re: backscroll "dont play slex") 08:54 NetSysFire: do you want to play ♥SLEX♥ *bundlebundlebundle* :) 08:54 if someone's not played a variant before I wouldn't recommend them slex 08:54 later on maybe 08:54 NetSysFire: Why specifically eddsa? 08:54 because its more secure(tm) 08:55 LarienTelrunya: why do i want to play slex? 08:55 compared to evilhack 08:55 it wouldn't be my go-to recommendation 08:55 heh, I've seen several players start with slex in the past, and even one who started with a trapper ironman windinhabitant kurwa 08:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 62 points, T:173, killed by an uninjured jackal 08:55 NetSysFire: slex is mind-blowingly crazy, a hell of a trip that you certainly won't forget any time soon ;) 08:55 NetSysFire: if you enjoy not knowing what's going on and randomly getting screwed over whilst potentially highly offensive things are occurring then play slex :P 08:56 * Arahael confirms that slex is indeed mind-blowingly crazy. 08:56 LarienTelrunya: that sounds horrifying 08:56 if you are going to play slex, suggested character combo: role = kurwa, race = challenger ;) 08:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:56 * Arahael confirms that slex is horrifying. 08:56 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 707 points, T:1143, killed by a giant ant 08:56 do not do that combo 08:56 <@Joanna> bhaak: /dev/null wasn't broken tho imo 08:56 :P 08:56 NetSysFire: I did that combo. It's *horrifying*! 08:56 i knew LarienTelrunya was trolling :p 08:57 <@nabru> slex is its own thing. It is what it is, and I refuse to try to classify it 08:57 NetSysFire: She is not trolling, that's the scary bit! 08:57 oh no 08:57 amateurhour will suggest you to instead play an incorporealoid monk, which isn't all that easy either because they can't wear any armor pieces whatsoever 08:57 <@Joanna> ^ 08:57 <@Joanna> I meant to ^ Arahael 08:57 I wouldn't say to do ico monk, would suggest something like angel noob barbarian 08:57 i hear feeding trolls makes you gain the aggravate chanop intrinsic 08:57 <@Joanna> ^ 08:58 <@Joanna> It is known 08:58 LarienTelrunya: Does slex indeed have that intrinsic? 08:58 It is known 08:58 Joanna: Maybe once I've recovered. ;) 08:58 oh fuck that reminds me! absolutely have to make trophies for bhaak so they can be included in junethack! bhaak: what's the best way of sending you the trophy images? 08:58 personally would recommend variants like xnethack, splicehack, dnethack, slashem 08:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:58 for someone that's not played any variants before 08:58 rather than suggesting slex 08:59 Arahael: haha, the chanop is specific to irc I think 08:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bezaban (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 160 points, T:1428, killed by a wounded large kobold 08:59 amateurhour: How dare you not include evilhack in that list! ;) 08:59 <@Joanna> No Arahael I meant to ^ your comment about Amy not trolling 08:59 evilhack's too hard for me :P 08:59 <@Joanna> As in. You are correct about that 08:59 I'll get there eventually... 08:59 amateurhour: And you think it's easy for me? ;) 08:59 i heard chanops also ignore elbereth and the ban hammer is a ranged attack 08:59 Joanna: Haha, indeed. :) 09:00 <@Joanna> I can ascend NetHack in under 2 hours but I couldn't ascend EvilHack in a million years 09:00 <@Joanna> lol NetSysFire 09:00 what's the slex speedrun record again? 99 or so hours by Tariru? 09:00 <@Joanna> Jeez 09:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3168 points, T:5285, killed by an owlbear 09:00 <@Joanna> That's long 09:01 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 09:01 no, it's by you in an ancient version 09:01 <@Joanna> Arahael do you actually want to ascend 09:01 37h or so 09:01 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible Anaraxis the Black, on T:41472 09:01 <@Joanna> Or do you just want pain and suffering 09:01 -!- stenno1 has quit [Client Quit] 09:01 omg what weird time format is "1, 19:46:02" on the scoreboard 09:01 1 day 09:01 Joanna: I want to ascend! 09:01 playing nethack alone indicates that you like pain and suffering 09:01 <@Joanna> Because if you keep playing Evil... 09:01 i never even ascended 09:01 <@Joanna> You're gonna have a Bad Time™️ 09:02 that would mean Tariru ascended longslex in like 43 hours, which would be pretty damn fast actually 09:02 Joanna: It might help if I didn't play Illithid all the time... 09:02 <@Joanna> Maaaaybe 09:02 if I hadn't thrown on that nastyfloorofsadness I'd have beaten that time I think 09:02 oh and the longest slex ascension was about 261 hours by porkman if those times can be trusted 09:03 NetSysFire: I've only ascended vanilla. 09:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:03 amateurhour: your game where you died to the black shuck was apparently 20 hours 44 minutes at the point of your death 09:03 2 hours? I've spent longer looking at my inventory and scratching my chin 09:03 my most successful run was an orcish barbarian 09:04 yeah, I think I could have done the remainer in less than 24h 09:04 obviously I couldn't as I died :P 09:04 anyway I guess I'll now make a bunch of images for the new trophies and then say bhaak's name three times to summon him :D 09:05 the best part was i got cleaver and grimtooth and i forgot that goblins are also orcs and sacrificed them. juiblex got summoned and i accidentally hit him with cleaver 09:06 now imagining Amy yelling 'baka' at their computer over and over 09:06 and i even survived but i died because i think a water demon cursed me, the pickaxe got welded to me, i couldnt enter the scroll shop and i tried bashing the shopkeeper with a pickaxe 09:06 that was on nao 09:07 NetSysFire: If the pickaxe was two-handed, that would have been a "major trouble" and you could've prayed to get out of that. 09:07 i already prayed but $deity didnt want to help me 09:08 Then you'd have had to wait many turns. They make decent weapons, apparently. 09:08 can someone confirm that the trophy images have to be 54x54 pixels? 09:08 https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/dumplog/NetSysFire/1618218858.nh366.txt rip me 09:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 359 points, T:1031, killed by a giant cockroach 09:09 Noooo. 09:09 <{Demo}1> nethack nft tileset 09:09 I had a magic lamp in that one! 09:10 giant cockroach? what is this? cataclysm dda? 09:10 NetSysFire: Evil is evil. 09:11 NetSysFire: Basically K2 kept thinking of how to make it harder, more enjoyable, and still keep good game balance, and put it all into evil. 09:11 lol 09:12 NetSysFire: Eg, in evil, Zombies are *really* terrifying. Just started a vanilla game now, and I had to pause a bit when I saw a zombie. 09:12 oooh 09:12 LarienTelrunya: zip them up, open an issue on github and write what extended conducts they are including a readable description for them all. 09:13 * aoei wonders what Pinkbeast's record is for ascension^Wtime spend scratching chin while looking at inventory 09:13 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4059 points, T:2972, killed by a white unicorn 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:83994 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 771 points, T:2304, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:13 bhaak: alright, will do :) 09:13 LarienTelrunya: hey, wait. I think that's a FAQ https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Junethack/FAQ#New_trophies_and_achievements 09:13 "For an example which makes adding new achievements very easy, look at this CSV for notdNetHack specific achievements which contains everything needed. Adding support the last 2 trophies was just this commit." 09:14 oh cool 09:14 <{Demo}1> i need to pick up a wrench and slap ndnh a few times before junethack this year 09:14 for slex we added the achieveX bitfield IIRC, which thankfully hasn't overflowed yet :D 09:14 <{Demo}1> ndnh2 is not gonna be ready for it so i gotta kick ndnh1 til it starts again 09:16 why are there so many ndnhs? 09:17 <{Demo}1> ndnh1 needs to get put down 09:17 <{Demo}1> ndnh2 is gonna replace it when it is ready 09:17 LarienTelrunya: don't call the achieveX field a bitfield. I almost had a heart attack. 09:18 bhaak: oh whoops 09:18 {Demo}1: also I absolutely have to tell you, yesterday I ate a "Pizza Demo"! :D :D :D https://abload.de/img/pizzademo7vke4.jpg - it was super tasty! 09:18 <{Demo}1> did amy "implement achieveX" but instead of achieveX=bofh_killed,mfgg_killed implement it as just another bitfield? :P 09:18 <{Demo}1> what's on it 09:18 <{Demo}1> just cheese or is there something else? 09:18 {Demo}1: that's what I thought at first as well 09:19 kebab, onions and tuna 09:19 <{Demo}1> i dont like tuna but that still sounds better than cheese cause wtf the point of pizza if ur not gonna put stuff on it 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 384 points, T:981, killed by an uninjured goblin 09:20 -!- Nelennath_ is now known as Nelennath 09:21 oh and of course there's also a large pack of fries because pizza just *has* to be eaten together with fries :D 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:84078 09:22 Vanilla monk feels weird. 09:22 LarienTelrunya: Pizza is rarely eaten with chips in australia! 09:22 [hdf-us] [slex] Dogmeat (Wiz Lic Fem Neu), 2178 points, T:1152, petrified by a stone bug 09:22 LarienTelrunya: Is it sold with chips in your country!? 09:22 <{Demo}1> that's not even a thing in america i think? 09:22 <@nabru> Nobody eats pizza with fries here in Brazil either 09:23 lol another slex player 09:23 <{Demo}1> and it sounds like the ultimate american fatass move 09:23 the whole concept is alien to us! chips come with hamburgers. i suppose if you were to eat a pizzarger (or a pizza with hamburgers as topping) it would be fine 09:23 <{Demo}1> aka it sounds good :P 09:23 <@nabru> This sounds rather American 09:24 Arahael: at least one town actually offered "with extra fries" for the pizza when I ordered via the Lieferando online service 09:24 Even when we make our own pizza at home, we don't have chips with it. We just eat the pizza. 09:24 LarienTelrunya: What!? 09:24 LarienTelrunya: "extra" fries? 09:24 yeah go figure :D they also realized that it's a great combo! 09:24 can we get a australian nethack version? you start in gehennom, need to fetch the amulet from the dungeons of doom, return and go to the other hells and offer it there. and since its australian expect hordes of spiders, bugs, flying spiders, sharks, jellyfishes, armored spiders and kangaroos 09:24 NetSysFire: 256 SHA256:jtfTeuOBXDZXoC8hcbi1+qtH8bQb9L9LzFONwqSdLqs (ED25519) <--- hdf-us 09:24 and yes i'll put them up on the hardfought website 09:24 phew it matches 09:24 NetSysFire: I've heard you also have giant enemy crabs over in australia, is that true? 09:25 i am not from australia but i would say there are some 09:25 NetSysFire: evilhack does have the convict role, I reckon that's aussie. 09:25 <{Demo}1> it seems like some bowling alley or food truck thing 09:25 NetSysFire: And even vanilla has eucalyptus trees. 09:25 <@nabru> However, Brazilian pizza is its own thing 09:25 if you approach the tree a "h" should drop down 09:25 <@nabru> https://9gag.com/gag/aVwb7WO 09:25 NetSysFire: Oh, but evil doesn't have kangaroos. K2 - put some kangaroos in! 09:26 ... no 09:26 :D 09:26 more dingos then! 09:26 and deadlier ones 09:26 hah 09:26 K2: You do realise that even australians keep a wide berth away from kangaroos? :) 09:26 i believe it 09:26 NetSysFire: Evil has most of the other things you mentioned, though. ;) 09:26 alright i gotta go, see you all in a few hours 09:26 -!- mackeyth has joined #hardfought 09:26 <{Demo}1> if i ever saw a kangaroo id fuck off 09:26 K2: Sleep well! 09:27 <{Demo}1> bye k2, bet he saw a kangaroo 09:27 * NetSysFire throws a potion of sleep at K2 09:27 haha 09:27 its 9:27am here 09:27 <{Demo}1> k2 aint sleeping its 9 09:27 lol 09:27 i have shit to do 09:27 cya o/ 09:27 like playing nethack at work? 09:27 :p 09:27 2nd covid shot, i gotta drive a couple hrs to get there 09:27 <{Demo}1> ah 09:28 <@Joanna> 😮 K2 pog 09:29 i have plenty of time for nethack (maybe even slex /me winks at LarienTelrunya) the next days because i am in quarantine starting in like 2 hours 09:29 wtf nabru is that real 09:29 I get my second on Monday, I'll have to walk about 200m 09:29 NetSysFire: :D (well :/ about the quarantine but yay for playing slex!) 09:29 Pinkbeast: yea but what's your record for inventory gazing tho 09:29 these are the important things 09:30 oh and dont worry i am fine i got a unihorn 09:30 TermIll doesnt affect me 09:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1475 09:30 <{Demo}1> honestly i'd probably get it if i only had to go 200m 09:30 aoei: does saying "no, I'll sleep on this" count as 8 hours? 09:30 nah you have to actually stare at it scratching your chin 09:30 NetSysFire: In evil, it still might. Unicorn horns aren't reliable, better if it's blessed... 09:31 i will make my own religion and become a priest to bless it 09:31 Hmm. Flipped soko. It's surprisingly annoying. 09:31 sleep doesn't count 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:84251 09:32 Arahael: How do you feel about ais523's proposal to automatically generate new Sokoban levels every game? 09:32 <@nabru> aoei: yep, that's real 09:33 nabru: i love the one with the crate of beer XD 09:33 <@nabru> Brazilians love to be... Peculiar with pizza flavours 09:33 <@nabru> XD 09:33 i have to come to Brazil one day 09:33 and have pizza the brazilian way 09:33 it looks great 09:33 lel 09:33 Nobody is more peculiar with pizza, than the Japanese. 09:33 <@nabru> It's pretty good 09:33 jonadab: Yeah? 09:34 YOU KILL PAT THE ROBBER 09:34 oops 09:34 mobileuser: KILL JESTER 09:34 lol 09:34 "Would you like some mayonnaise, tuna, and corn pizza?" Hard pass, thanks anyway. 09:34 nabru: the car tire is also pretty wtf 09:34 do you have bananas on pizza? 09:34 I tried bananas on pizza once; it was a mistake. 09:34 also tuna, corn and onion pizza is delish 09:35 nabru: wait one tweet on that post claims that only one restaurant in brazil does pizza this way 09:35 pineapple also deserves to be on pizza 09:35 Pineapple is good. 09:35 But pineapple doesn't degrade when heated the way banana does. 09:35 The mistake most people make with pizza is to focus on the toppings. 09:36 You should focus on ensuring that the bread is *excellent*. 09:36 Oh, sure, good crust is vital. 09:36 pineapple on pizza is bad and wrong 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3361704 points, T:84281, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/klintos/nethack/dumplog/1613642220.nh.html 09:36 the crust is the best part 09:36 and anybody who eats it should feel bad 09:36 grats klintos 09:36 gg 09:36 This is why New York pizza is terrible: the crust is basically soggy cereal-box cardboard. 09:36 jonadab: that sounds disgusting 09:37 I've heard people in Georgia put peaches on pizza; have not confirmed how common this is. 09:37 [hdf-us] [4k] Arnibald (arnibald) (Bar Hum Mal Cha) defeated the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58907 09:37 <@nabru> aoei: yep, that restaurant is kind of a meme here in Brazil 09:37 But yes, proper pizza crust has to be *at least* a quarter inch thick. 09:37 Deep dish pizza is the stuff. 09:37 <@nabru> A normal pizza place will have a lot of toppings, but nothing as bizarre as that restaurant 09:38 i saw a potato bacon pizza here once 09:38 also döner kebab pizza 09:38 döner on pizza is perfectly normal? 09:38 I mean, potato on pizza is pointless, but not offensive. Potato just takes on the flavor of whatever you put with it, and bacon is good, so fine whatever. 09:38 jonadab: Deep dish pizza is just a quarter inch thick? I thought tht was *standard*! 09:38 Arahael: No, no. 09:38 i mean, döner pizza is just a reindeer pizza for the more southern latitudes 09:38 Well, potato is starch, at least. 09:38 Arahael: Deep dish pizza is considerably thicker. 09:39 I've never had deep dish pizza, then. 09:39 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_butty i bet there is a pizza with that, too 09:39 Deep dish pizza is typically an inch thick or more. Though not all of that is crust, obviously. In fact, it's usually more than half cheese. 09:39 rice and potatoes go really well though imo 09:40 Rice and potatoes are neutral. They go with anything, but all they really add is bulk. 09:40 jonadab: That sounds like an absurd amount of cheese. 09:40 * Arahael loves ricee. 09:40 Arahael: I'm from the Midwest. "An absurd amount of cheese" is a fair summary of our entire cuisine philosophy. 09:40 i recently made a stir-fry and i didnt like bell peppers but we had like potatoes and others so to bulk it up we just added the taters and it was godly 09:41 Like, baked macaroni and cheese is about 20% noodles and the rest is cheese. 09:41 And it's *awesome*. 09:41 jonadab: I'm allergic to cows milk, and I've never had macaroni. 09:41 macaroni is just small noodles. 09:41 I mean, I've never had "macaroni and cheese". 09:42 Typically shaped like a pipe elbow, but there's also shellmac, which is shaped like (half) clamshells. 09:42 bhaak *fleecy brush bundle* https://github.com/junethack/Junethack/issues/64 ♥ 09:42 I prefer traditional noodles. 09:42 Macaroni is a very traditional type of noodle. 09:42 please tell me how many rules of how to make such an issue I've broken :D 09:42 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: updates] 09:43 jonadab: I've very rarely had macaroni, actually - usually I just have the traditional string-type noodle. :) 09:43 Spaghetti? Or ramen? 09:43 jonadab: Both. 09:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 548 points, T:1007, killed by an uninjured manes 09:43 Ok, those are quite different. 09:43 LarienTelrunya: None of them feature a lacy bra! I'm impressed. 09:43 Macaroni is considerably more similar to spaghetti, than either of them is to ramen. 09:44 i see your mac n cheese and raise you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A4sesp%C3%A4tzle 09:44 Arahael: huh is there a rumor going on that I'm supposedly into lacy bras? 09:44 LarienTelrunya: Aren't you more likely to be into lacy socks? 09:44 jonadab: lacy boots with zippers and buckles ♥ 09:45 LarienTelrunya: I'm just remembering my game! :) 09:45 NetSysFire: That looks pretty tasty, actually. 09:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 291 points, T:516, killed by a sewer rat 09:46 being from germany i ate käsespätze dozens of times and they are indeed tasty if you make them the right way 09:47 NetSysFire: hab gedacht ich wär der einzige Deutsche hier :D 09:47 ne bist du nicht 09:47 hahaha :) that's great! 09:47 also I used a generic masculine form there :P 09:47 ohno 09:47 LarienTelrunya: I thought stenno was too? 09:47 anyway I'll finally play slex now 09:48 Pinkbeast: oh yeah 09:48 how many hours did you play slex? 09:48 thanks for reminding me 09:48 ... hang on, and bhaak 09:48 don't call bhaak a German just because it's his native language :P 09:48 LarienTelrunya: What about lacy boots with zippers, buckles, straps, and padlocks? Or are you not quite that kinky? 09:48 NetSysFire: total? way too many to count 09:48 lol 09:49 The padlock could connect the boot to a piercing, maybe in the webbing between two of the toes... 09:49 jonadab: straps are sexy ♥ but padlocks would only get in the way I think 09:49 personally for longer games i like to play cataclysm dda more since its persistent and nethack stashes just arent as satisfying and persistent 09:50 in slex you normally don't need to build stashes, my last char was carrying around 7 pages of weapons and plenty of other stuff 09:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2823 points, T:2586, killed by a blast of frost 09:50 only a month and a day tracked on the scoreboard for you Amy 09:50 G'night. 09:51 LarienTelrunya: you forgot at least stenno 09:51 amateurhour: heh but I've also played locally a lot 09:51 about twice what I've played 09:51 'night 09:51 I kinda lost counts on nationalities 09:51 yeah but if it's not on public servers does it count? :) 09:51 amateurhour: what if it's on a public server that went down? 09:51 bhaak: is the issue and trophy images in the proper format? 09:52 are there archives on the games? still counts! 09:53 LarienTelrunya: looks fine at a first glance 09:53 yay! 09:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 754 points, T:1005, killed by a war orc 09:54 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:55 doesnt DGLAUTH= work with hardfought? 09:55 [hdf-us] [4k] Arnibald (arnibald) (Bar Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:59475 09:55 it works on nao(tm) 09:56 it does 09:57 * NetSysFire starts debugging 09:57 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:57 It should work 09:58 even specifying it with export doesnt work hmm 09:58 yes, SendEnv is specified 09:59 NetSysFire are you using SendEnv or SetEnv 09:59 both 09:59 the exact same setup works on nao 09:59 it works fine for me, that's strange 10:00 why are you using both SendEnv and SetEnv? or do you mean you have tried it with both and neither worked? 10:00 ohhhh wait 10:00 i think its multiplexing 10:00 now it works 10:00 whoops 10:01 I'm glad you asked about that the other day, I didn't know it was an option before then 10:01 very convenient 10:02 i use ControlMaster with ssh, its also pretty nice for everything ssh 10:02 the connection will be kept alive and it was still alive this is why the option was not applied 10:03 oh huh 10:03 there are so many mysterious ssh options that are beyond my ken lol 10:03 ssh is epic 10:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:04 yay I got my monthly work evaluation sheet and finally they gave me the "outstanding" rating again! the month before it was only "sufficient" 10:04 gz 10:04 :) 10:05 gg! 10:05 qt: these are the options i use https://bpa.st/73HK7PGGYCUP7EKSNDXPF2W3RI 10:05 sadly my slex playing skill is way lower than that or I'd long have managed to pull off an ascension on the hdf servers :P 10:05 [hdf-us] [4k] Arnibald (arnibald) (Bar Hum Mal Cha) defeated the high priestess of Moloch, on T:59691 10:05 NetSysFire: SetEnv is missing please include it so I can use your account 10:05 you dont want to use my account 10:05 its bad 10:06 @le? bust supersecret advice rifling unverified bosoming 10:06 No such monster. 10:07 there must be a bug with pinobot, my guess is the length of a monster name is limited somehow and it checks for " bust supersecret advice rifling unverif" or something, which has no matches obviously 10:07 Adeon: is that the case? what's the max length of a monster string that Pinobot can query? because it doesn't seem to know what a "bust supersecret advice rifling unverified bosoming" is 10:07 @@le?bust supersecret advice rifling unverified bosoming 10:07 No such monster. 10:07 qt: alright fine but keep my ascension ratio up https://bpa.st/I22L3X26QCLPHXVJ4RPQS4UAM4 10:07 Hi, Amy and Ammy. 10:08 yo Umbire ♥! 10:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2693 10:09 is there any reason to have both SetEnv and SendEnv? I just use SetEnv and it works by itself 10:10 hmm good point 10:10 * NetSysFire checks the manual 10:10 it's in the db at least Amy 10:10 yeah, that's why I'm pretty sure there's a string length limit 10:10 hmm looks like you are right qt its shorter to use just SetEnv 10:10 the developer of pinobot never expected a monster to have such a long name :D 10:11 is that monster name a mnemonic passphrase 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8754 10:11 like a diceware passphrase 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:31434 10:12 | T.length text >= 50 10:12 it's just a random name generated by jonadab's monster generator script, which I'm eternally grateful for ♥ that script created lots of other fun monsters, e.g. "tackle deice", "drum stint reluctance" or "admirer linearly" 10:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2176 points, T:2804, killed by an uninjured hill orc called Thosai-zog of Baneahai-u 10:12 amateurhour: yeah that's gotta be it, because that monster name is longer than 50 chars 10:12 it's 51 yeah 10:13 whats the option that causes you to not swap places and instead attack peaceful monsters? i need muh goblin flesh 10:13 just 'F'orce fight 10:13 NetSysFire: you can press F before the direction 10:13 oh amateurhour beat me to it 10:13 ah thanks 10:14 is this some hardfought specific thing? 10:14 Nah, that was in 3.1.3, maybe before 10:14 bhaak: I calculate 5373 games of vanilla and 4920 of variants last year, how is that mostly variant play? 10:15 aosdict: does that include startscummed games? 10:15 it's "finished games" from the junethack page 10:15 noone was startscumming like they were in tnnt 10:15 https://junethack.net/activity 10:15 maybe someone was in fourk 10:16 yeah spicycat was in fourk I think heh 10:16 I feel bad for whoever signed up on July 3 10:17 You carefully open the bag... 10:17 A ` figurine of a bowwierdo {0} has vanished! 10:18 drop the bag :) 10:18 large box > boh > bag of digestion 10:18 What do you want to name this bag called holding? CURSED 10:18 bag of holding is bad tier bag 10:19 they only exist to cause you sadness in slex 10:19 yeah, and they have the nasty habit of attracting the curse items effect with laser-point accuracy 10:19 get Surfing Fun 10:19 god-tier bag 10:19 if you have a boh out in the open, the curse items effect will always ALWAYS hit the boh 10:19 is that a bag of beach boys records or something amateurhour 10:19 oilskin sack that still works as an oilskin sack even when cursed 10:20 <{Demo}1> soilskin acks! 10:20 <{Demo}1> soilskin axe? 10:22 every joke suggestion becomes another fartifact that spawns on dlvl 1 and prevents you getting your first sac gift 10:22 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5384 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:5384 10:22 amateurhour: you and your obsession with the "first sac gift". just accept the fact that it's the exception, not the rule if you do obtain it in slex :D 10:23 yeah, no chance of getting it, especially when offering stuff depends on the number of artifacts generated?? 10:23 what happens with second gifts in slex? 10:23 some slashem roles have second gifts 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:5527 10:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1254 10:23 <{Demo}1> hey amy u should make the game more fun 10:23 the number of artifacts generated is already high anyway because few base item types don't have an artifact 10:23 <{Demo}1> and less mean 10:23 haha Demo 10:24 amateurhour: each role-aligned sacrifice gift has its own 20%-or-however-many-it-was roll; if the RNG decides that this particular gift is not the first one, you may get lucky and have it be the second one etc. 10:24 10% 10:24 <{Demo}1> the rng hath decide that ur bad at slex 10:24 so you could get the second gift first, and then you still have the chance of getting the first one on your next sac because that one hasn't generated yet 10:25 man I really want to play Priest Quest: Dark Days 10:25 i.e. it goes over the role-aligned gifts and rolls for any that haven't yet generated in your game (and obviously stops rolling once it does hit the 10% chance for one of them) 10:27 [hdf-us] [slex] Dogmeat (Wiz Gha Fem Neu), 5481 points, T:2229, killed by molten lava 10:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Cav Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3001 10:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3051 10:30 "This gnome leader corpse tastes okay. You hear rumbling in the distance. You finish eating the gnome leader corpse." i think $deity didnt like that 10:30 aosdict: you're count > 3.4.3 as vanilla ;-) 10:30 probably just a rolling boulder trap 10:31 LarienTelrunya: are kittens more dangerous in slex? 10:32 considering that kittens are the bane of many adventurers 10:32 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44635 10:32 NetSysFire: heh you have to be afraid of way worse things than kittens in slex :P but there are also psycho kittens 10:32 @le?psycho kitten 10:32 psycho kitten (f) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 6 | Attacks: 1d6 bite physical, 1d5 gaze paralyze | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 10:32 just throw food at them 4Head 10:32 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 10:32 nah the psycho kitten cannot be tamed that way 10:33 I mean regular ones lol 10:33 Also yeah that was just a rolling boulder trap 10:33 You only ever have to worry about rumbling if you just swat a pet recently 10:33 And at that point you'd know immediately 10:34 @?green mold 10:34 green mold (F) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 0 | Res: acid petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Attacks: 0d4 passive acid | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, vegan 10:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2979 points, T:3616, killed by an uninjured wolf 10:34 why doesnt it confer stoning resistance? 10:35 Nothing does that I know of lmfao 10:36 You become stoning resistant by taking on an "acidic" form generally 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:32381 10:36 i remember seeing something in the wiki 10:36 There IS an inherent "stoning resistance" intrinsic but that's not gainable by the player either 10:36 (again that I know of) 10:36 e.g. gargoyles 10:36 aaaaaaaah fu dwarf with epic armor 10:37 Wait you're in vanilla right? 10:37 Not SLEM? 10:37 er, SLEX 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 742 points, T:1754, killed by an uninjured dwarf 10:37 oh well that'll do it. 10:37 i just couldnt hit it 10:37 I've had some dwarves like that in the past 10:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3408 10:37 When dealing with the Mines as a barb it helps to know when to cut and run 10:38 on the upside, if you manage to kill them, they're loaded with armor 10:38 mhm 10:38 its the second dwarf like that 10:38 just learned the poison blast spell, 90% fail, yet I managed to get two casts off before I ran out of mana :D 10:38 i managed to cut down everyone else 10:38 probably had mithril 10:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha), 3007 points, T:3434, killed by a small crossbow bolt 10:38 Far as stoning resistance goes, it's not something you get intrinsically, yeah 10:38 should have let the kitten do the dirty job 10:39 Only way to really get it is to poly yourself into an acidic monster or something else that's stoning-resistant 10:39 * NetSysFire polymorphs into a cockatrice 10:39 5Head 10:39 See now you're getting it 10:39 being stoning resistant would have certainly helped in the middle ages 10:39 Plenty of other ways to avoid stoning as well, you'll have met a few lizards before you start seeing footrices on average 10:39 yeah 10:40 i heard having a lizard corpse in your inventory evens out the odds 10:40 -!- telegarn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:41 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 10:41 That's specifically wrt footrice hissing 10:42 When playing during new moon, cockatrice hissing always begins the stoning process, unless a lizard corpse is carried in main inventory; with the corpse, the chance of stoning is restored to normal.[1] 10:43 i blame the new moon for the unfair dwarf 10:44 lmao it's not even that unfair 10:44 can still wand them, E-word, use something poisoned, etc. 10:44 lot of ways to not die 10:44 it is! its certainly not my skill, its only the new moon 10:44 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2908 points, T:5810, killed by a crocodile 10:45 i never used E so far in any playthrough 10:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1642 points, T:2605, killed by an uninjured killer bee 10:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1437 10:47 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 10:47 -!- mackeyth has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 862 points, T:1555, killed by an uninjured rabid rat 10:47 also just to be clear i am still bad at the game. never even reached the quest level so far 10:50 you'll get there 10:50 NetSysFire: That may be less bad than you think - the first game I went on the Quest was the first game I cleared Fort Ludious (having died there twice), the first time I killed Medusa (having drowned once and been stoned once), the first time I passed the Castle (died there once)... and my first win 10:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:21827 10:51 yay I have a magic lamp :D 10:51 i just play in a way thats too yolo, in a very bad way. i should be more careful 10:52 why yay Amy? they don't give wishes anyway :P 10:52 lol as if I would waste a magic lamp like that 10:53 <{Demo}1> use a magic candle 10:53 A - [ a p-blessed +4 pair of rubber boots (being worn) {4} 10:53 heh maybe I should exploit ubermartialarts with them? :P 10:54 !whereis AmyBSOD 10:54 amateurhour: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex]: (Sec Hca Fem Neu) T:3343 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 10:54 what does p-blessed mean? 10:54 and is it the same as np-blessed? 10:54 harhar 10:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:11233 10:54 lol, means the item is made of plastic 10:54 the materialglyph option rocks :D 10:54 can see at a glance what material an item is made of 10:55 what do you mean ubermartialarts? 10:55 -!- mackeyth has joined #hardfought 10:55 amateurhour: the skill that allows your kick to do like 50 damage 10:55 you mean having all of the following: 10:55 grandmaster martial arts, expert high heels, kicking boots that happen to be high heels, being a role that has a bonus to kicking? 10:56 about 90% of that damage comes from the martial arts skill, that's the problem 10:56 because other than the role that takes a _lot_ of training plus luck 10:56 that's what you're trying to make it sound like :P 10:57 martial arts trains at reduced rate, kicking boots aren't always high heels 10:57 shoe skills are just slow to train generally 10:57 already told you that martial arts does not train at a reduced rate, I fixed that bug 10:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2590 10:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Wiz Vam Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:980 10:58 so when the stars all align and you grind it all up you get something that's kind of good :P 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 9651 points, T:9664, killed by a wounded blue jelly 10:59 though everything seemed to block it or jump over me except for really fat demons 10:59 <@iatrocrat> fuk 10:59 <@iatrocrat> i hit it by adccident 10:59 rip 11:01 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Evil_Patch_Idea i love this sentence "Originally, they were intended to serve only as a graveyard of bad ideas that were fun to discuss, but the developer of Slash'EM Extended does actively review EPIs and consider them for inclusion in Slash'EM Extended." 11:01 LarienTelrunya is evül confirmed 11:01 :D and I'm damn proud of it! 11:01 no mere mortal could have created the abomination that is slex, and no other developer's variant comes even close to it in terms of craziness! 11:01 i should point out at this point that there's some neat stuff in slex, it's just obscured :P 11:01 i just looked at the infidel role from evilhack, looks pretty nice so far 11:02 * NetSysFire loves being evil, too 11:05 LarienTelrunya: no other developer's variant *wants* to 11:05 LarienTelrunya: is that a quote or has the demon spoken that is in you? 11:05 bhaak: Amy the SLEX Demon :D 11:06 did you implement yourself in slex yet as a demon? 11:06 aosdict: but why? being crazy is the only way to make this crazy world tolerable :P 11:06 heh, I implemented myself as a quest nemesis 11:06 @le?Amy Bluescreenofdeath 11:06 Amy Bluescreenofdeath (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 33 | Spd: 16 | Res: petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 40 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 cast spell, 2d6 lashing amulet steal, 2d6 scratch Famine | Alignment: -13 | Flags: omnivore, phases, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 11:07 I forget which role it was for, but she sure did 11:07 * Umbire should probably add that to the trope page 11:07 lol 11:07 which trope page? 11:09 <@iatrocrat> make an incel role and ill play slex 11:09 https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Slash%27EM_Extended 11:09 lol if I make that, slex will get banned 11:10 hardfought is in the pocket of Big Reasonable 11:10 -!- Announcy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:10 <@iatrocrat> fr? it would get banned? 11:10 <@iatrocrat> i wouldnt know 11:10 <{Demo}1> you start their quest by slicing ur roommates faces off or whatever 11:10 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 11:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 806 points, T:3085, killed by an uninjured jaguar 11:11 I haven't done much touching up for variants and such in a while so 11:11 well even slex has limits 11:11 aosdict: Oh yeah, who do I go to email-wise about quotes I submitted to the database 11:11 LarienTelrunya: coulda fooled us 11:11 huh? 11:12 aosdict: https://nhqdb.alt.org/ 11:12 like you made a pull request for encyclopedia quotes? 11:12 stenno's the most active nhqdb admin at the moment 11:12 what's the problem 11:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:12 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 11:13 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 11:13 who are you and what did you do with the real Umbire? 11:13 That was annoying. 11:13 what's up with quotes you submitted? 11:13 aosdict: Anyway the mailto link, what's the actual email address used there? 11:14 I know it redirects to the local mail program, but I'm on Win10 and really don't feel like humoring it 11:14 gtg now, roommate wants to go ice-cream-eating ♥ 11:14 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby green dragon, on T:5723 11:16 "Add your accounts to keep up to date across devices" no thanks, I'd rather not 11:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Wiz Vam Fem Neu), 11067 points, T:2221, killed by a plains centaur zombie, while praying 11:21 [hdf-us] [slex] X8IB (Pic Shp Mal Neu), 9505 points, T:2833, killed by a monster (priest of Danzai) 11:22 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7306 11:24 !pom 11:24 nabru: The moon is new for 2 more days. 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:12354 11:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Sam Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:7870 11:28 Umbire the mailto is "username nethack on this domain" i.e. nethack@alt.org 11:28 you can hover over it and look at the link preview 11:29 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:29 in most browsers at least 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12779 11:29 Yeah I saw that but wasn't sure what address it meant 11:29 6_9 11:29 Thank you 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8606 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Sam Hum Fem Law), 14711 points, T:8706, killed by a bolt of fire, while sleeping off a magical draught 11:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] blanda (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 82 points, T:184, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 11:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) was given the Singing Sword, on T:1368 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fireproof +2 staff of Aesculapius", on T:13215 11:38 -!- mackeyth has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:40 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:40 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:40 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 11:40 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:18146 11:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 7184 points, T:3905, killed by a soldier ant 11:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pri Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1123 11:43 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:45592 11:44 [hdf-us] [slex] Dogmeat (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 2051 points, T:1040, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:45 regarding the force fight thing from earlier, is there some option to deactivate that? as in that it only applies to pets and not to peaceful monsters 11:48 "deactivate" when you have to hit a key to actually do it in the first place lol 11:48 I don't really understand, if you don't want to do it just don't press F before that move 11:48 if you already pressed F you can just press esc to back out of it I think 11:48 ^ 11:50 no i mean that i can kill all the peaceful mobs easier 11:50 "easier" 11:50 since i usually abandon my pet early 11:51 once you hit a peaceful one time it stops being peaceful anyway 11:51 yeah but there are many orcs and i need orc blood 11:51 and making it easier to hit shks and priests by accident is dangerous :P 11:51 i need orc blood faster 11:52 Yeah you're just gonna have to get used to force fighting lol 11:52 you mean a way to permanently enable force fight? actually I think disabling safe_pet and confirm will do that 11:53 hmm i basically want to "restore" the behavior i see e.g on nao 11:53 i hate changes okay 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Heroine, on T:33050 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:13996 11:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2737 11:56 I don't think there is a way in 3.7 to make you attack peacefuls by default without also making you attack your pet by default 11:56 Technically pets are peaceful. 11:57 oooh blessed can of spinach 11:57 nice~ 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:14232 11:59 * Umbire offers Andrio spinach and eggs 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Champion, on T:33205 12:01 i forgot that goblins are orcs again 12:01 hi Yeenoghu 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Lady, on T:33333 12:05 Thanks Umbire.~ 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 307 points, T:714, killed by a wounded giant bat 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3090 12:08 fear me 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3496 12:11 its a lie! 12:12 @?red mold 12:12 red mold (F) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 0 | Res: fire poison | Confers: fire poison | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Attacks: 0d4 passive fire | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, infravisible, vegan 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 492 points, T:1055, killed by a bolt of fire 12:19 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:47792 12:24 -!- Septieme has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:32 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 12:32 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 12:33 yooooooo the lovely darling-amy is back and has cevapcici ♥ 12:33 oooh cevapcici 12:33 dear @ characters, how dangerous are orc captains in vanilla? 12:33 <{Demo}1> i want cevapi 12:33 and does cevapcici exist in slex? 12:34 heh, I guess it should 12:34 at least it already has pizza :) 12:36 we (roommate at me) also had some peppermint ice cream just now, which tasted kinda strange but I think it's okay :) although next time I'll probaby pick one of my favorite flavors again, e.g. woodruff 12:36 <{Demo}1> whats woodruff 12:37 <{Demo}1> sounds like updog 12:37 ooooh waldmeister in german 12:37 :D 12:38 {Demo}1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galium_odoratum 12:38 Orc-captains get two attacks per turn 12:38 sometimes I use syrup and tonic water to mix a drink that I call "bitter woodruff" :) 12:38 Usually unarmored, but they can hit p. decently with weapons and such 12:38 thanks for the tips. i got orctown 12:39 if you don't have poison resistance maybe skip orctown for now 12:39 i am a barb 12:39 so i do have poison res 12:41 oh by the way NetSysFire, you're in germany right? do you like german trains? ♥ 12:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:30489 12:41 my favorite is the ET425 12:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:30490 12:41 LarienTelrunya: of course i dont. the deutsche bahn is horrible 12:42 waaaaaaaaaat 12:42 lol 12:42 <{Demo}1> jaaa 12:42 but i am not very well versed in the lore of trains 12:42 Siemens ES64U2 for me, please :-) 12:42 :( 12:42 i just hate the deutsche bahn 12:42 <{Demo}1> I've always stood by train autism being the true neutral of autism 12:42 noooooooo! 12:42 lol 12:42 lol 12:42 but DB is my employer and *I* really love them ♥♥♥ 12:43 blink thrice if you are in danger 12:43 <{Demo}1> i think building a train track and train on a lot of land could be fun 12:43 like the trolley problem 12:43 <{Demo}1> like a personal train to get around your compound 12:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:30519 12:44 Pinkbeast: lol that's a locomotive, you don't normally get to enter that as a passenger :P 12:44 nooooooooooooo 12:44 LarienTelrunya: But you can enjoy the tunes it plays from the outside :-) 12:44 hahaha 12:45 wtf i even had three potions of healing 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 6823 points, T:5692, killed by a wounded gargoyle 12:45 i didnt play yolo one time by quaffing random potions and this is what i get 12:45 Plus, I'm good at getting asked onto footplates (maybe not on the big railway, though) 12:46 that said I'd love to travel with a railjet once and use their sleeping cars ♥ 12:46 sadly, DB completely abolished sleeping cars on german trains 12:46 heard about that 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Raider, on T:23279 12:46 Mmm, we used to get the Paris->Munich sleeper towards Leipzig when it still existed. :-( 12:47 We got the Russian equivalent one year. 12:47 damn I also want to travel to Leipzig again :( but we no longer have that tour 12:47 LarienTelrunya: sounds like you would be a big fan of https://twitter.com/BahnAnsagen 12:47 i was in leipzig once when i travelled to chemnitz for the event "chemnitzer linux-tage" 12:48 NetSysFire: Information! zu! ER E! Eins! Nach! Trier! Abfahrt! Elf Uhr neununddreißig! Heute circa zehn Minuten später, Grund dafür ist eine überlange Zigarettenpause des Lokführers! 12:48 <{Demo}1> whats a linux-tage ? 12:48 its basically linux days 12:48 its a congress 12:48 LarienTelrunya: We just had the Dark Stream festival, the WGT substitute during the plague. :-( 12:48 LarienTelrunya: ha 12:48 Amy: somewhat regular reminder to update your OS to something sane 12:48 lol 12:48 run rebecca black os or gtfo 12:48 biebian might also be acceptable 12:48 that would be less insane than xp 12:48 lol amateurhour, just because someone said linux :P you should install a bot on the channel that says "amy update bla bla" whenever someone says "linux" 12:49 that's a good idea 12:49 Pinkbeast: wgt? 12:49 <{Demo}1> i wanna make an animal that eats train tracks 12:49 just use arch and -Syu all day /s 12:50 https://www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/ 12:50 {Demo}1: rust monster 12:50 <{Demo}1> good call 12:50 NetSysFire: the current dev machine for slex runs windows xp 12:50 <{Demo}1> they should let me into the bioengineering labs and bio-3d print a rust monster 12:50 and the current daily driver is windows 7 12:50 LarienTelrunya: about the train tracks eating monster, 12:50 amateurhour: sounds like they should just run react os 12:51 lol 12:51 amateurhour: aren't you missing some other little detail there? somethingsomethingeditingcfilessomething :P 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:1336 12:52 well you can run wordpad in wine if it's that close to ur heart 12:52 you can even run internet explorer in linux using wine! 12:52 who doesnt want that? 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1442 12:52 amateurhour: actually I expected you to say something like "and go figure, the slex dev edits the source using WORDPAD!!!" 12:53 and go figure, the slex dev edits the source using WORDPAD!!! 12:53 not notepad? what a noob 12:53 woah spooky how did u know what I would type 12:53 MS-DOS EDIT.COM! 12:53 https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/getfile/798249 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1460 points, T:1532, killed by a heavily wounded chameleon imitating an owlbear 12:55 day 13 of nethack: my thoughts have started to synchronize with amateurhour. please send halp immediately. i can feel juiblex approaching 12:56 -!- Tachoh has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:00 -!- Tachoh has joined #hardfought 13:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1350 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 Cleaver", on T:24380 13:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:30882 13:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:30889 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1030 points, T:1366, killed by a heavily wounded dwarf, while praying 13:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1774 points, T:1594, killed by a slightly wounded gnome lady, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:04 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- eraserhead9784 has joined #hardfought 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:68394 13:09 -!- eraserhead9784 has quit [Client Quit] 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:49855 13:16 why is there lava on level 4 13:17 NetSysFire: playing some funky variant that puts lava on dungeon levels? 13:17 vanilla 13:18 !whereis NetSysFire 13:18 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] NetSysFire [nh370]: (Bar Orc Fem Cha) T:1913 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 13:18 it says dlvl 4 13:19 there are some special rooms that can contain random features, including lava 13:19 in 3.7 13:19 hmm 13:19 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 13:19 is there a list of special rooms somewhere? 13:19 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:19 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Themed_room 13:20 nice thanks 13:21 Yeah, just don't go stepping in it any you'll be fine lol 13:22 the thing i encountered is called blocked center 13:22 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: zhakupov] 13:25 lol only a variant would put lava on such an early dungeon level :P 13:25 "vanilla" doesn't even have paranoid liquid, does it? so one mistype and it's game over, great game design :D 13:25 lolololololololololololol 13:26 LarienTelrunya: wait slex has paranoid liquid? 13:26 paxed: ? are you implying that it does have paranoid liquid by now? 13:26 I mean, I'm sure that there are a billion things that override it, but still? 13:26 aosdict: there is a nasty trap called paranoia trap, which overrides all the paranoid checks, but other than that they're there of course 13:26 <{Demo}1> paxed river patch + no paranoid liquid = just don't typo 13:26 LarienTelrunya: sounds like the same thing with extra steps 13:27 losing the game to random in-game bullshit is fine, losing it because you made a single wrong keypress that you didn't even intend to make is bullshit 13:27 LarienTelrunya: "game design", what is that? 13:27 LarienTelrunya: great, now I can argue that "this feature is such good QoL that even SLEX has it" 13:27 lmfao 13:27 anyway my secret advice member is continuing her adventure now 13:27 !whereis AmyBSOD 13:27 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-eu] AmyBSOD [slex]: (Sec Hca Fem Neu) T:4089 The Gnomish Mines level: 4 13:27 just don't typo, it's not that hrad 13:27 so, i can make the game crash at random, and it would be fine ... 13:27 *hard 13:28 want to bring my pet to minetown so it can slaughter all those watchman bastards :D 13:28 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 13:28 psst, for anyone who wants to not have to typo into water in vanilla, https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/257 and https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/259 (same thing for traps) 13:29 paranoid traps is an absolute must IMHO, because traps can be obscured by items and you're likely to walk into them even though the character still remembers they're there 13:29 who has the patience to use the ^ command whenever there's an item next to them, to make sure it's not over a trap? nobody! :P 13:29 yeah thats stupid, also running will run directly into a known trap 13:29 <{Demo}1> suddenly, I am ill 13:29 (note that these PRs don't even enforce not typoing into stuff! you can keep the option off!) 13:30 in slex you can even farlook an item obscuring a trap and it'll say "dart, on a dart trap" (if the trap has been discovered, of course) 13:30 NetSysFire: you can run with ^direction instead of shift+direction to stop before running into a trap 13:30 i should rebind that keybind 13:30 I really don't understand the mindset of "it's an integral part of gameplay that you might typo into hazards and all players will just have to live with that" 13:30 oh, and I made it so that farlooking a visible trap will mention if it's on some special terrain, e.g. "fire trap, on ice" 13:30 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 13:31 pity trying to find any good feature in slex is like trying to find a needle in a haystack 13:31 im back, witches :D 13:31 semi-related, I noticed recently that if you read magic mapping while looking at a trap that has an object on it, the object disappears (or is overridden with the trap symbol) until the screen is redrawn/vision is recalculated. 13:31 slex sounds very innovative 13:31 which seems to be intentional based on the comments in show_map_spot but it sort of weird imo 13:31 did i miss any juicy scrollbax 13:31 lol paxed did you ever playtest it, or are you going by what people in the chat have said about the game? ;) 13:32 aoei: yes 13:32 NetSysFire: :0 13:32 NetSysFire: gimme the scoop 13:32 slex is apparently more innovative than vanilla 13:32 uhhhhh 13:32 it's certainly creative 13:32 :) 13:32 slex also displays your maximum possible skill level in the #enhance menu for all the skills 13:32 it has paranoid liquid and vanilla doesnt seem to have it 13:32 NetSysFire: ah, yea, slex isn't the only variant to offer this though 13:32 LarienTelrunya: oh yeah thats definitely a qol enhancement 13:32 yeah slex has some good stuff 13:32 oh and slex has full in-game item and spell descriptions and a pokedex that tells you the stats of a monster :D 13:32 there are way better variants that have this qol enhancement 13:32 LarienTelrunya: i'm not into traps 13:33 but I also agree wrt the needle in a haystack thing 13:33 xNetHack, which is one of *the* best variants 13:33 also has the paranoid water thing IIRC 13:33 aosdict: am i right or am i right? 13:33 you are totally right 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3668 13:34 gah, fuck poisoned crude arrows! they're nuking my strength because I'm not poison resistant yet! 13:34 aosdict: :D 13:34 LarienTelrunya: use unihorns 13:34 don't have one yet 13:34 aosdict: in fairness I've heard that FIQhack has loads of great QOL stuff too 13:34 i've never really played FIQhack tho 13:35 yes but fiqhack translates a lot less well into vanilla PRs 13:35 oic 13:35 this is important 13:35 getting good variant qol into vanilla is a great goal 13:35 aosdict: continue 2 b awesome :3 13:37 <{Demo}1> not sure why im ill but i have a feeling it is self induced 13:37 <{Demo}1> should probably eat better things 13:37 i think this is pretty weird behavior https://0x0.st/-T0L.mp4 13:37 {Demo}1: eat a pizza demo :D 13:38 Boris gazes at the watchman... The watchman is killed! 13:38 that's right bitches, welcome to hell :P 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4111 13:40 i should certainly try this conical hat 13:42 Hi aoei 13:42 what up SON 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:50309 13:42 did you get good at nethack yet? 13:42 Later 13:43 Busy drawing and shit rn 13:43 (or I will be when my head stops being gelatin) 13:43 okey 13:43 have fun :D 13:43 i was hating life but im in a good mood again for some reason 13:44 stress and anxiety do weird things to me 13:44 * NetSysFire hits Umbire's head with a cockatrice corpse 13:44 now where is this bloody watch captain, I want to kill that too (pet wiped out all the regular watchmen now) 13:45 hm interesting beholder will only send a message on the next turn when you fall through a hole into minetown 13:46 behold: 13:46 i said behold: 13:46 damn 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4736 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4736 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a triangular amulet on an altar, on T:4741 13:48 YASI: if the current year is 2020, the default fruit name is "free toilet paper" instead of "slime mold". 13:49 What even is your pet 13:50 she probably tamed her quest nemesis so she can have herself as a pet or something 13:50 YASI: if you fall through a hole inside a shop, the shopkeeper is visibly annoyed at you 13:50 "How did you fall inside? You're making a mess!" 13:50 Umbire: bust supersecret advice rifling unverified bosoming, which can't be queried via bot because the name is longer than the maximum length the bot can handle :P 13:51 was that inspired by https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3405 nabru? :P 13:51 amateurhour: nope 13:51 just came up in my head 13:51 oh do you mean falling _into_ the shop 13:51 <{Demo}1> candle theif 13:51 rather than a hole in the shop floor 13:52 amateurhour: yep 13:52 falling into the shop 13:52 it just came up in my mind when NetSysFire reached MT by falling (I assume) straight into the temple 13:52 no not a temple 13:52 beholder told you when i interacted with the temple 13:53 ah 13:53 <{Demo}1> behold 13:53 LarienTelrunya: But whatever it is has a gaze attack 13:54 finally got through all the backscroll 13:54 yeah, 7d7 gaze nastycurse and 6d8 bite clerical spell 13:54 so much about pizza 13:54 yay pizza ♥ 13:55 i just found a uncursed ring of protection +4 13:55 <{Demo}1> does that give mc3? 13:55 what is mc3? 13:55 <{Demo}1> good question 13:55 magic cancellation is a stat conferred by armor and protection, it prevents special attacks (like poison, sliming) from working 13:55 haha that reminds me, there was a player once who somehow expected the ring of protection to give +1 MC in slex :P 13:56 the max is 3 (mc3) 13:56 ah that makes sense 13:58 alright so i now know what this uncursed amulet is i tried on. extrinsic telepathy 13:58 oh come one 13:58 speaking of MC, my char currently has none :O why the hell am I not finding any cloaks 13:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5981 points, T:5378, killed by a heavily wounded mumak 13:59 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 14:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2338 14:05 <{Demo}1> herbalist 14:05 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: zhakupov] 14:06 isn't an arbalist a crossbow guy 14:06 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 14:06 betraying their name to use a dagger tbqh 14:06 <{Demo}1> herbalist stoner ranger would be a cooler character 14:08 better do these dishes before i start feeling like crap 14:08 bleh 14:09 More and more I think my post-vax strategy was correct. 14:09 Yvonne puts on the l-+2 pair of walking shoes named Tiamat's Rebuke {4}. 14:09 k2 did you get the vaccine? 14:09 (I felt hung over the next day, no worse. This is because I was hung over). 14:09 got my 2nd shot this morning 14:09 Pinkbeast hah 14:10 <{Demo}1> feeling like i got a covid shot rn but i didnt 14:10 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 14:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] priyavt (Kni Hum Mal Law), 326 points, T:1057, killed by a wounded little dog 14:11 i got tested a few hours ago, it hurt more than i thought when they jam a cotton swab through your nose into your throat 14:11 oh wow just got your bones qt 14:11 magicbane and dragonbane on dl20 14:11 no more artiwishing but that's ok :) 14:12 bag of holding is probably loaded too. what's the trick I have to cancel it if it's cursed right? i don't know if i have cancel . I hate when stuff vanishes 14:13 i might have had a second sack with a scroll of remove curse in it 14:13 If you can't pick it up that's highly suggestive of it being cursed 14:13 not certain, if there's a sack with just one scroll in it that's scare monster though 14:15 no it's a bag of holding . gonna have to cancel 14:15 there is probably some good stuff in there, I am definitely something of a pack rat 14:15 i have the wand at my stash. this is great though. just saved a wish :) and now I can fly because i don't need to wear reflection amulet 14:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Fem Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:22993 14:17 I'm glad it didn't all go to waste, just don't carry on my legacy of dying stupidly ;) 14:18 I die all the time! i know i've left some good bones haha 14:20 i never leave bones because i never die 14:20 lol jk 14:20 i just play !bones B) 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible qt's ghost, the former Magician, on T:22945 14:20 Arbalest is a role rank title iirc 14:20 bones is wrong and broken and you should all feel bad and ashamed 14:20 unless you have !bones in ur rcfile 14:21 Artifact specs: hallucination resistance when wielded, +5 to-hit and double damage, lawful. K2 suggested this artifact, and his short stubby hair can cause a wonderful scratchy velcro feeling <3<3<3 14:21 hahaha :D that shop spawned Plaidswandir 14:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4034 points, T:5444, killed by a wounded owlbear 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) murdered fido2, her faithful little dog, on T:186 14:27 oops 14:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3709 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Fem Law), 236437 points, T:38259, killed by a death ray 14:28 i've found 5 bones piles in this game (so far) 14:29 triple bones in minetown (one of which was me) 14:30 amy, do you pronounce 'plaid' similarly to 'gray'? I don't really understand the pun(?) since the words don't really have similar sounds the way I say them 14:30 qt: https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2497 14:30 k2, do you pronounce 'plaid' similarly to 'gray'? I don't really understand the pun(?) since the words don't really have similar sounds the way I say them 14:31 i guess just because they are both colors 14:31 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 14:31 maybe colors isn't the right word but whatever 14:31 it's just a bunch of puns that became actual artifact items in slex :D 14:32 did you add all of those items? 14:32 you bet! 14:34 I am always inspired by your uncompromising dedication to consuming random jokes, indiscriminately converting them to in-game stuff, and spitting out the bones 14:35 :) (almost) nothing is too silly for slex! 14:36 so when do we get cevapcici in slex? 14:36 maybe one day 14:36 shall i file an official feature request? 14:36 heh, no need, I've already added it to my (huge) todo list 14:37 lol 14:37 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:39 "You see here a credit card. You are beginning to feel hungry." 14:40 would be funnier if it said "You are starting to feel weak" 14:43 You see here a calendar. You are starting to feel week. 14:44 it was about time someone made that joke 14:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:4696 14:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4744 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:69094 14:51 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 14:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3358 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3760 14:58 oh ffs 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] NetSysFire (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 2304 points, T:3763, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:50632 14:59 spicyCebolla: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-04-12 23:10 EDT: heh, just because you didn't actually see it in-game doesn't mean it's not there :P there is a "dogshit boot" that monsters can hit you with, but thanks for the idea anyway, at least I can make a new unique death message 15:02 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 15:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1732 15:06 [hdf-us] [slex] Dogmeat (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 4998 points, T:2337, killed by a monster (Kop Lieutenant), while praying unsuccessfully 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2200 15:09 [hdf-eu] [slex] Dareen (AmyBSOD) (Sec Hca Fem Neu) obtained the Sokoban prize, on T:10965 15:09 omg 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed tinning kit", on T:25381 15:09 so it did generate after all, it's just that a monster jumped through a hole with it 15:09 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:10 what skills do Sec get? 15:10 lots :P 15:10 see Skill_Sec in u_init.c 15:11 I wish the wiki listed skills and intrinsics for the roles/races :P 15:11 but I'll head to the source 15:11 well if I were to make pages for all the roles, the skills would be listed there... but then those hundreds of pages would flood the wiki 15:12 sounds overpowered 15:13 what's the downside to Sec? 15:13 the sec's skill set? it's pretty good but I don't think it's broken 15:13 just no longsword? 15:13 yeah they lack the sword skills 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased wand of death", on T:939 15:13 but they don't have a downside per se 15:14 can't see any downside lol, this is has got to be one of the strongest roles 15:14 this is also the first time I actually play one, so it remains to be seen what they're like but so far it's going pretty well 15:14 haven't used the wand of banishment yet 15:14 what does the wand of banishment do? 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:50852 15:15 banishment is an effect that yeets you to gehennom 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:25648 15:15 oh 15:15 or from gehennom if already there 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25660 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Bar Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3153 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Bar Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3153 15:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3503 15:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2978 points, T:3896, killed by a wand 15:21 amateurhour: that's not exactly how it works, the destination doesn't depend on where you are. while in gehennom, it can also send you to a different level in gehennom if the RNG feels like it :P 15:21 and, this is new in 2.70: it can also send you to random other branches, but not to ones that are off limits (e.g. can't go to the yendorian tower if you've not obtained the amulet yet) 15:22 -!- Tachoh has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:23 <@iatrocrat> how to survive lycanthropy 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1303 points, T:3863, killed by an uninjured paper golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:23 <@iatrocrat> nevermind 15:23 lol 15:24 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 15:26 alright I'm tired, so I guess I'll go to bed early today. see you all guys :) NetSysFire: am looking forward to seeing you play slex, preferably when I'm online so I can watch! ♥ 15:26 lol 15:26 we will see 15:26 lol 15:26 sleep well Amy 15:27 thanks! amateurhour: maybe you'll want to playtest the secret advice member too, it's IMHO more interesting than the monkster ;) 15:27 you want me to play the uberrole secret advice member? :P 15:27 * NetSysFire gives a cursed apple to LarienTelrunya 15:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1215 points, T:1828, killed by a wounded soldier ant 15:27 i thought you'd prefer me to play something weak like kurwa 15:27 lol 15:28 haha I'd love to see anyone play a kurwa, but it's hard to persuade players to actually do so 15:28 * LarienTelrunya eats the apple 15:28 Bleech! Rotten food! The world spins and goes dark. 15:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Amy is unconscious.] 15:28 What proportion of SLEX species/roles have been played by anyone who isn't you? 15:28 ... oh 15:29 lol sometimes people roll random combos 15:29 amateurhour: Right, but how many? 15:29 i mean they're worth randoming during JNH to see if your starting inventory lets you kill yourself 15:29 now that she is gone, what roles should i absolutely never play in slex? 15:29 i've probably "played" a lot of them 15:29 NetSysFire: most of them 15:29 lol 15:29 if you roll random like 95% of the time it'll be unplayable 15:30 even if you land a good role the race might have like no hands and summon farting girls every 2 turns 15:30 wait wat 15:30 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:30 it'd be cool to port a few of the ones that do something interesting, and aren't unplayable, to something else like splicehack 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19044 15:32 could imagine something like wandkeepers in splicehack 15:33 maybe the shapeshifter role (not race) 15:34 We're only partly making this up btw 15:34 ? 15:34 Amy has some genuinely good ideas and it's a bit TOO easy to rag on the variant but 15:34 SLEX is... a game 15:34 making what up? 15:34 even if you land a good role the race might have like no hands and summon farting girls every 2 turns 15:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had a pair of old gloves entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:25357 15:35 i think he's restating what we said for NetSysFire's benefit 15:35 there are races without hands, and 2 turns might be an exaggeration but there's ones that summon girl monsters periodically :P 15:35 amateurhour: species-template-as-role was one of the cool ideas in 3.5 d&d, like vampire isn't what you are, you're an elf, but with vampire tacked on it 15:36 I've only played 5e but that sounds really fun 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 8894 points, T:4194, petrified by a chickatrice 15:36 never played dnd but the black eye/das schwarze auge (dsa) which is basically german dnd but not really dnd 15:37 -!- Tachoh has joined #hardfought 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una), 895 points, T:1499, killed by a pony 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oatmeal (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 1998 points, T:3195, killed by a wounded wolf 15:41 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 837 points, T:1143, killed by a giant bat 15:42 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 8 points, T:90, killed by an electric shock 15:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1628 15:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "marker", on T:19223, rt[3:08:05] 15:46 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:19233, rt[3:09:53] 15:49 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:19376, rt[3:12:28] 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1550 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:20422 15:54 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 685 points, T:2002, killed by a falling rock 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 helm of brilliance", on T:33585 15:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 6375 points, T:7714, killed by a moderately wounded Green-elf 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:20454 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:20456 15:59 I've heard Amy mention Black Eye 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:20469 16:00 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 16:01 qt: this was the inspiration for 'plaidswandr' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0 16:02 watch the whole thing :) 16:02 <@riker> what's slex plaidwandir do? 16:02 <@riker> *swandr 16:03 no idea 16:03 i mentioned plaidswandr as a joke and amy made it into an artifact in slex 16:03 <@riker> hah 16:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:06 i also mentioned '50 shades of grayswandr' but i dunno if that became a thing 16:07 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 79 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:20325, rt[3:30:28] 16:07 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:07 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 16:12 50 shades of grayswandir should be like, a hallucinatory novel 16:12 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1271 points, T:2142, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:12 i think that one gives some kind of grayness nastytrap effect 16:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3619 16:18 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:20822, rt[3:42:18] 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4180 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:51681 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:35040 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 robe", on T:35044 16:23 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 67 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:21122, rt[3:47:00] 16:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:28141 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:35450 16:32 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:21724, rt[3:56:06] 16:32 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:21726, rt[3:56:08] 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:35615 16:34 aosdict: lol 16:40 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:22070, rt[4:03:51] 16:40 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:22075, rt[4:04:09] 16:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:22110, rt[4:05:24] 16:42 [hdf-us] [4k] Arnibald (arnibald) (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached the Plane of Earth, on T:61093 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:54072 16:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:22222, rt[4:08:15] 16:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:22234, rt[4:09:02] 16:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:22243, rt[4:09:12] 16:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:51 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:22524, rt[4:14:33] 16:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:56 [hdf-us] [4k] Arnibald (arnibald) (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached the Astral Plane, on T:61359 16:57 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:23076, rt[4:20:51] 16:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:67994 16:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:67995 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 676 points, T:1823, killed by an uninjured dwarf 17:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7252 17:03 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:23519, rt[4:26:46] 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:52413 17:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 126 points, T:506, killed by an uninjured gnome 17:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:3238 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 161 points, T:1664, killed by an uninjured hobbit 17:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3478 17:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] qUp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8859 points, T:8137, killed by a wounded owlbear 17:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3571 17:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 344 points, T:616, killed by a wand 17:16 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:25063, rt[4:40:20] 17:20 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 17:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 164 points, T:505, killed by a wand 17:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3362 17:23 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:25322, rt[4:47:02] 17:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Big Room, on T:30810 17:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became permanently corrupted into a human zombie, on T:324 17:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 72 points, T:329, killed by a residual undead turning effect, while stuck in human zombie form 17:26 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:25433, rt[4:49:40] 17:26 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed partially eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:25434, rt[4:49:54] 17:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by a barely wounded priestess of Moloch), on T:25465, rt[4:52:45] 17:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:25466, rt[4:52:46] 17:30 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:25491, rt[4:53:49] 17:30 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 17:30 [hdf-eu] [seed] jt (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 626484 points, T:25491, rt[4:53:55], wc[2 days, 2:58:02], ascended 17:30 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jt/setseed/dumplog/1618165949.seed.html 17:31 jt well done 17:31 i like to live vicariously through jt's ascensions because our names are similar 17:31 haha 17:31 still can't believe he did zen 17:32 not that ascension just now but just in general 17:32 qt: how does it feel to have vicariously ascended zen once in a while? 17:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:33 it gives me a feeling of total superiority 17:33 me, looking down my nose at you plebeians: "ha, their names aren't even similar to jt's!" 17:34 can setseed games be submitted to the speedrun.com scoreboard? @luxidream 17:34 assuming random seed 17:34 aoei, I'd say pacifist is much harder and more tedious than zen 17:35 jilles: yeah it probably is 17:35 i've not done either :P 17:35 that last time is of course bad compared to what the real racers are doing but it is much better than what I did before 17:36 and I didn't have an early wand of wishing (though otherwise reasonably good stuff) 17:36 i mean, you saved so wallclock is trash 17:36 the Real Racers :tm: includes you now :) 17:36 but under 5 hours is not bad 17:36 for realtime 17:36 really 17:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 513 points, T:895, killed by a badly wounded jackal 17:36 i still need to deal with the lack of setseed ascensions on the NHS 17:36 been procrastinating about that 17:37 trouble is i had to add some additional logic to deal with user_seed=0 vs user_seed=1 17:37 beacuse if you didn't *set* a seed, the game is absolutely the same as a normal vanilla ascension 17:37 and should be on the scoreboard 17:37 it's just user_seed=1 that needs to be excluded or listed separately somehow 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:69995 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:69996 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:24158 17:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6229 17:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 229 points, T:283, killed by a crossbow bolt 17:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful ettin mummy, on T:6245 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:70032 17:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:6443 17:42 qt: your name isn't similar to jt. the q is all the way across the keyboard from j, for Crom's sake 17:43 ye but don't u see 17:43 thye both are two letters 17:43 and end in t 17:43 that's BASICALLY the same 17:43 also q and j both have descenders 17:43 that's far more important than qwerty nonsense 17:43 ^ 17:44 listen to the kid from da moon 17:44 they're next to each other in dvorak 17:44 :o 17:44 seeee 17:45 my sense of name similarity-based unearned superiority solely relies on levenshtein distance anyway 17:46 what's levenshtein dist 17:46 how many operations (removing a character, adding a character, substituting one char for another) it would take to turn one string into another 17:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 450 points, T:921, killed by a crossbow bolt 17:49 -!- FootoftheHare has joined #hardfought 17:50 it's how git does suggestions like "'commitee' is not a git command. The most similar command is: commit-tree" 17:50 ahhh 17:50 the other day I was thinking it would be cool to use an algorithm like that to try to figure out what people were wishing for when they would otherwise get a random item, so I have it on the brain I guess 17:51 so qt <-> jt and ot <-> jt would score the same right 17:51 if one letter is wrong there's no "how wrong" ? 17:51 it's still chaging a single letter 17:51 <{Demo}1> in scrabble? 17:51 <{Demo}1> they'd score 0 17:51 <{Demo}1> cause they aren't words 17:51 lmao demo 17:53 yeah aoei as I understand it 17:53 cool 17:53 ok lovelies i think i should nap a bit 17:53 bit day 2moro 17:53 big* 17:53 have a nice sleep 17:53 ty qt 17:54 qt3.14 lel 17:54 nice 17:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:57 qt: that sounds interesting, but also kinda dangerous 17:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 349 points, T:1011, killed by an uninjured dwarf 17:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Traveler, on T:33560 18:00 dangerous in what way? 18:00 it might guess wrong 18:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:01 I remember git used to run what it thought you meant 18:02 something went wrong and someone reported their repo getting totalled or something 18:02 might try dig out the mailing list thread 18:02 yeah I was thinking about only applying it to cases where currently you just get a random item (like "scroll of recharging" currently gives you a random scroll) 18:02 amateurhour: hahaha wow 18:03 I guess that's a pretty niche use case though, it would be better if there were a way to safely use it for other stuff -- so you don't have to remember exactly how to spell "the eye of the atehtisnopicha" 18:03 i mean 18:04 there's a really way to not make this dangerous 18:04 if the wish prompt thinks it can detect a correction 18:04 it can give an additional prompt 18:04 you mean just print the guess? but then you are **spoiling** players! 18:04 "did you mean?" 18:04 qt: ehhhhhh 18:04 its a smol spoiler 18:04 it could also be limited to only when it's within some small whatsit distance 18:05 that's a good point aoei 18:15 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1295 points, T:950, killed by a badly wounded gnome lord, while sleeping off a magical draught 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:70281 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:70283 18:22 Hmm for some reason my number pad isn't working 18:25 Disregard fixed it 18:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:34745 18:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34749 18:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 372 points, T:1145, killed by a crossbow bolt 18:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 266 points, T:431, killed by an uninjured dwarf 18:50 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2745 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:2820 18:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:02 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed NetSysFire's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:3893 19:06 [hdf-eu] [seed] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1844 points, T:6498, petrified by a cockatrice 19:07 no lizards >:( 19:07 aosdict please fix 19:09 heh 19:09 more lizards 19:09 MOAR 19:10 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 19:10 [hdf-eu] [seed] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 269 points, T:1115, rt[0:03:58], wc[0:03:59], killed by a dart 19:10 [hdf-eu] [seed] microlance (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 4837 points, T:4620, killed by a bolt of fire 19:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 347 points, T:961, killed by an uninjured hobbit, while disrobing 19:15 more changing rooms pls kthx 19:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:12386 19:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2 points, T:99, killed by a slightly wounded black pudding 19:17 [hdf-eu] [seed] microlance (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1678 points, T:2677, rt[0:07:38], wc[0:07:39], killed by a wounded dog 19:17 [hdf-eu] [seed] microlance (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:18 [hdf-eu] [seed] microlance (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 787 points, T:2340, killed by a moderately wounded iguana, while moving through the air 19:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 75 points, T:355, killed by a bear trap 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2232 19:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5 points, T:50, killed by an uninjured large cat, while praying 19:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:12, zapped herself with a wand 19:28 [hdf-eu] [seed] microlance (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2808, rt[0:10:39] 19:30 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] ligang (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful Grey-elf, on T:15073 19:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Pri Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3443 19:39 [hdf-eu] [seed] microlance (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4473 points, T:4321, [0:21:49], killed by brainlessness 19:39 [hdf-eu] [seed] microlance (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:36859 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 8814 points, T:3621, killed by a slightly wounded vampire 19:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:12750 19:47 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:55 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:57 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Journeyer, on T:37498 20:03 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Arc Dop Mal Neu), 2579 points, T:8184, killed by a little dog 20:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:110, killed by contaminated water 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:71984 20:13 YANI: Various ambient level sounds for Gehennom. Screams, wails, evisceration noises, what have you. 20:13 and evil chanting 20:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3128 20:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 10 points, T:6, killed by a falling rock 20:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4164 20:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4182 20:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 18 points, T:44, killed by an uninjured fox, while frozen by a potion 20:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 9 points, T:55, killed by an uninjured water demon 20:29 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:30 <@iatrocrat> losers 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) genocided electric eels, on T:72161 20:36 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 20:42 <@luxidream> amateurhour: late but I'll allow it 20:43 <@luxidream> that being said I should submit my own 52:59 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased blindfold", on T:26799 20:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:72327 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the White Horse, on T:72327 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:27389 20:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:37013 21:00 -!- telegarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 21:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law) wished for "very historic thoroughly historic diluted very locked greased blessed holy figurine of a woodchuck named carl my brother who sadly died trying to explore the ice realm rip", on T:72394 21:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class R, on T:40046 21:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Fem Law), 4362211 points, T:72396, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/evilhack/dumplog/1617560413.evil.html 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:17886 21:27 <{Demo}1> rip 21:27 <{Demo}1> also nice asc 21:27 <{Demo}1> but i am very sorry for carl 21:28 <@princessSpicycat> another solution, qt, to the harder-to-spell wishes is to allow wishing for the "commonly accepted" name(s). eota, mojo, eoto, hob, hooa 21:28 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Sam Hum Mal Law), 12402 points, T:3408, killed by the wrath of Raijin 21:28 very leery of inserting blatant fan jargon into the game anywhere other than commit messages 21:29 <{Demo}1> "You and the black dragon and the black dragon and the black dragon and the giant beetle and the giant ant and carl my brother who sadly died trying to explore the ice realm went to your reward with 4362211 points" lol 21:30 :) 21:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Pri Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3650 21:31 So I remembered that wrong, for some reason I thought that would work out 21:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Voyager, on T:40776 21:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Val Dwa Fem Law), 190 points, T:154, killed by an acidic corpse 21:48 <@Shadow_Rider> Has anyone played slex who can tell me how hard it is? 21:48 the difficulty is in your mental fortitude to play such a game 21:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of levitation", on T:40852 21:55 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3062 21:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Mal Law), 2034 points, T:3063, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 21:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:40969 21:59 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 22:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Fire Brand", on T:41020 22:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] FootoftheHare (Mon Dop Mal Neu), 1544 points, T:1275, quit 22:03 SLEX is absurdly hard 22:03 Amy BSOD is super cool though 22:08 -!- FootoftheHare has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (alhoons), on T:27703 22:15 <@Shadow_Rider> It’s scary to see how few ascensions there have been 22:16 <@Shadow_Rider> But I am still attracted to such a complex and intricate game in the same way I was attracted to nethack 22:19 it's not... good intricate like vanilla and most variants are 22:21 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:21 it's intricate in the way that "my role has to move up-down every 10 turns or else I get a random bolt of lightning to the face, plus I hit a trap that inverts all the terminal colors, while wielding a fleecy bundle and attacking farting shoes with it" is intricate 22:21 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided master mind flayers dungeon wide on T:55352 22:21 [hdf-us] [un] Trenin (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) genocided mind flayers dungeon wide on T:55353 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] SurferOfButthole (Inf Ith Mal Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1690 22:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3179 22:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3971 22:38 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:28908 22:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4955 22:43 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 22:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:5091 22:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5239 22:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:42407 22:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 4668 points, T:3097, killed by an ape 22:51 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 22:54 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:30090 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30092 23:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7229 23:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4181 points, T:8667, killed by a spotted jelly 23:26 -!- FootoftheHare has joined #hardfought 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:62024 23:30 -!- FootoftheHare has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:30 aosdict: there is no 4th wall in nethack though 23:31 it's dripping in anachronisms, references to modern day stuff, and orientalism 23:31 pop culture is one thing, the fan jargon of the game itself is another 23:32 like the game would be endorsing those pieces of jargon as official 23:34 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 23:37 I could have sworn at one point there were alises set up that let you wish for 'unihorn' or 'comr' and things like that 23:38 oh, no, that was just in slashem 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Cav Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1690 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 467 points, T:1721, killed by an uninjured bugbear 23:39 https://github.com/moon-chilled/slashem9/blob/master/src/objnam.c#L1892 23:40 NetHack only addresses the fourth wall in a handful of obscure cases (e.g., applying a stethoscope south when already at the south edge of the map, which is difficult or impossible to do on most levels because of undiggable walls at the map edge.) 23:40 But it's *loaded* with anacronisms, yes. 23:40 And bad puns. 23:40 And worse puns. 23:41 And good bad puns. 23:41 I mean, seriously, loadstones. Your health is currently amplified. 23:41 IIRC the stethoscope thing works at any map edge, not just south 23:42 I might be wrong though. 23:42 It only makes *sense* at the south edge, since that's the direction the keyboard would generally be. 23:42 But I haven't tested it at the other edges. 23:42 It's directly at the status line is by default. 23:43 I dunno what kind of keyboard _you_ use, but mine is loud to be heard from the top of the screen. :-) 23:43 <{Demo}1> core dumped 23:43 I still want to figure out if "killed by colliding with the edge of the universe" is technically possible 23:43 <{Demo}1> whats that aos? 23:43 "killed by eating too rich a meal" was hard to do the last time I looked into it 23:43 Not as far as I'm aware. IIRC it requires colliding with a tile flagged as an unphasable wall but without a wall there? 23:43 ...hurtling... into a non-isok() coordinate? 23:43 I don't remember exactly 23:45 <{Demo}1> the spirits hold you back 23:45 <{Demo}1> is a message I remember related to that 23:46 I think a couple of mail-related messages might play with the fourth wall, but since the mail feature was originally intended for checking out-of-game email without leaving the game, you kind of have to forgive that. 23:47 "This ugly monster is called %s and cannot be renamed" 23:47 Oh, hah, I forgot that one. 23:48 The mail daemon itself breaks the fourth wall. 23:49 trickeries, too 23:49 I'm assuming stuff like "unknown command: #foo" when you type #foo, doesn't really count as fourth-wall, because it's just UI design and you need to know when the thing you're typing isn't a command. 23:49 jonadab: Well, that doesn't reference the ingame world, so I think it's OK 23:50 That would be wholly on your side of said wall 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] 4nVTxyKh (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 427 points, T:902, killed by a dagger, while sleeping off a magical draught 23:50 Right, if the Wizard of Yendor laughed at you for getting the command wrong, that would be fourth-wall. 23:50 and would be great 23:50 Until you start getting into the old bug where things like checking your inventory made you sink into lava. 23:51 oh it could be like that console game where the villain goes "YOUVE been playing SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE, haven't you?" 23:51 That reminds me of NetHack's reference to Larn. 23:51 yani - the WoY knows how many times you've blundered into traps, used Elbereth, or been lifesaved, or prayed at low HP, and he taunts you about it 23:51 Which is, again, mail-related. 23:52 That would be all in-game stuff, so fine. 23:52 Fourth-wall would be if the Wizard of Yendor razzed you about how long it took you to take your move. 23:52 Or how many times you saved. 23:53 *Evil* fourth-wall would be if the Wizard of Yendor gets stronger in his next iteration when you take too long to make a move. 23:54 "I'm just adjusting the difficulty to compensate bro" 23:54 Hmm, does the day/night tracking and Friday the Thirteenth and full moon, count as fourth wall? It kind of conflates game world with real world. 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:3014 23:55 that's not really "things in the game are aware that they're in a game" 23:55 True. 23:56 it would be more of a gray area if you had some character talk about how it's full moon tonight, yes it is 23:57 EPI: when it's a full moon, there are extra werefoo on every level. 23:57 and it would be really leaning hard on the fourth wall if they were going to lampshade it with some line like "why do I even know the lunar cycle down here in the dungeon? why IS the lunar cycle so weird? it's like it doesn't follow normal time at all..." 23:57 And on a new moon, extra zombies, GruntHack style. 23:58 -!- microla has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58 -!- microla has joined #hardfought