00:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1998 points, T:5454, caught herself in her own fireball 00:06 -!- officerdoofy has joined #hardfought 00:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:3672 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] greenelm (Arc Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:126 00:10 -!- officerdoofy has quit [Client Quit] 00:14 [hdf-us] [slex] DracoMorbis (Und Dop Fem Neu), 4768 points, T:2366, killed by a monster (horse mummy), while helpless 00:24 YASI: Cryptid race with inherent double-damage against quadrupeds 00:33 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 00:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6706 points, T:4389, killed by a gnome mummy, while frozen by a potion 00:47 gnite all 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] greenelm (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 412 points, T:1302, killed by an uninjured sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:53 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 00:54 hmm... ...weird - when a friend watches my play, his character set's all weird - is there a setting that fixes this? 00:58 eraserhead97, you can switch from cp437 to ibm graphics 01:01 bug_sniper this isn't an .ini setting is it?  where do I find it in on the hardfought menus? 01:01 [hdf-us] [slex] DracoMorbis (Und Dop Fem Neu), 260 points, T:597, killed by a monster (Mr. Asidonhopo, the shopkeeper) 01:03 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:05 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:06 r and s keys toggle it for ya eraser 01:07 also you can switch the graphics in your terminal settings if using tty 01:15 eraserhead97: ^ 01:36 what up folx 01:38 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:39 Hi, aoei. 01:40 YANI: If a holding attack would drown you while you have magical breathing or are in a breathless form, you are instead pulled into the water and moved to an applicable adjacent square, where the monster will then attempt to hold and/or crush you as normal. 01:40 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 01:41 Should've appended that this wets your items (as opposed to usual drowning For Some Reason) 01:41 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:42 Oh, hi. 01:43 Umbire *fleecy bundle heart* :) I'll be here for two hours or so, split shift again today 01:43 I see. 01:46 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:47 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 01:47 hey Umbire 01:47 hey Amy 01:47 hi aoei *bundlebundlebundle* 01:47 * aoei bundles Amy 01:48 :D if you bundle me right now, you'll inhale the sweet scent of my Christina Aguilera shower gel ♥ 01:49 sounds lovely 01:49 i havent showered yet this morning and smell gross looool 01:50 also I'm finally working on slex again, although it sucks having to do that in between shifts 01:50 would love to have one (just one) free evening that I could use for coding and playing 01:50 F 01:50 Amy: I'm starting my "talent center" training today 01:51 well I did the eingangsgespräch yesterday 01:51 haha nice, will they teach you how to ascend nethack faster? :D 01:51 and today i have something i forgot what 01:51 LOL maybe if they hired luxidream as a trainer 01:52 ok today i have Jobbörse 01:52 whatever that is 01:52 but basically i am offically not a NEET and have to be at this dumb training weekdays from 13:00 to 17:00 D: 01:52 sounds like hell :P basically, you probably get a catalogue with job offers and have to sift through it in the hopes of finding something that suits you 01:52 noooooooooo :/ 01:53 * LarienTelrunya offers aoei a fleecy hug 01:53 yup 01:53 lol its ok 01:53 it gives the day some structure at least :b 01:53 i am bad at making my own structure 01:53 are you sure you don't want to work for DB as an interviewer ;) IMHO much more fun than having to go to the stupid job center 01:53 hell the fuck no 01:57 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 418 points, T:1319, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 02:01 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 02:11 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 02:16 lol wow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPU7Uq4TtNU 02:16 anyone here ever had to use a terminal at 300 baud? 02:16 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:16 i would die 02:22 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 02:23 :v 02:23 My messages still showing? 02:23 Umbire: yes 02:23 i can see u 02:23 owo 02:25 Umbire: however the last message to come up before :v was "I see." ages ago 02:26 That's normal, then. 02:26 Was just making sure my connection didn't wonk. 02:27 cool 02:27 Might be this site wonking out instead 02:27 :c 02:28 Nope, it's just this one specific page 02:29 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4664 points, T:3434, killed by a soldier ant 02:30 There we go 02:30 (Go team a!) 02:36 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:46 One wrinkle in my recent YANI is the case of drowning attempts near single-square pools. 02:46 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4198 points, T:4746, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 02:47 D: 02:47 can you fix it? 02:48 I mean 02:48 (go Team a!) 02:48 I mean that's what I'm mulling over right now 02:48 like how to properly handle that 02:48 right 02:49 i have no idea what was yhour YANI 02:49 i need new music :/ 02:51 YANI: If a holding attack would drown you while you have magical breathing or are in a breathless form, you are instead pulled into the water and moved to an applicable adjacent square, where the monster will then attempt to hold and/or crush you as normal. This will wet your inventory as if you stepped into the water yourself (which is somehow not the case when you die as a result of a drowning attack). 02:51 aoei: ^ 02:52 The Fridge Logic being "what if you isolated a drowning monster in a single-square pool?" 02:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:52 in slex, the drowning attack simply additionally wets your stuff, plus the chance to drown you if you can't breathe underwater 02:53 Naturally you're on top of that. 02:53 You figure out the 1-square question, though? 02:54 nah, because I don't have that problem in slex :P the player still stays on the adjacent square 02:54 Hm 02:55 <@luxidream> could displace the sea monster out of the water 02:55 <@luxidream> :p 02:55 That's just a whole other tin of w meat 02:56 Wouldn't that just autoscare them? 02:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:3 02:56 why fix a system that ain't broken :P in vanilla there's zero need to move the player to a different square when a monster uses a drowning attack 02:59 omg github for windows added a cherry pick feature :D 03:00 Neat. 03:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 7 points, T:209, killed by a slightly wounded black pudding 03:00 reminder to self: HOW TO CHERRY PICK WITH GITHUB you can copy commits to another branch by dragging and dropping them onto a branch in the branch menu or by right clicking on a commit! 03:01 Umbire: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/3242b7b5 :) thank you for finding that bug 03:02 👍 03:02 !tell amateurhour do you like my newest set of commits? https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/1250283d was inspired by you :) thank you for revealing the problem! (and I just know you're gonna hate me now) 03:02 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 03:04 Unfortunately I am not Ammy so I do not understand the ramifications of this 03:04 Did you just like, nerf kicks in general? 03:05 well I nerfed the OP damage bonuses 03:05 and I know amateurhour is gonna say "I didn't feel that they were OP" but he's not the variant maintainer :P 03:06 my feeling is that players generally never complain about something being OP in their favor and usually won't even acknowledge it 03:07 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 03:09 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:09 <@luxidream> I can't believe you figured me out so easily D: 03:09 lul 03:10 Well if it ain't the Ammy of the hour 03:11 amateurhour: Got here just as I was considering leaving funnily enough 03:14 Probably reading the commits 03:14 I'll worry about that later, night all 03:14 goodnight Umbire ♥ 03:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:34 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 03:38 why what's up 03:38 amateurhour: Message from aosdict at 2021-03-30 20:13 EDT: I think the level editor thing would be good primarily for spitting out a map with the proper mapchars; other lua stuff like "a scroll should generate in either this room or that room but not both" would be hard to express 03:38 amateurhour: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-03-31 03:02 EDT: do you like my newest set of commits? https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/1250283d was inspired by you :) thank you for revealing the problem! (and I just know you're gonna hate me now) 03:38 oh dear 03:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 259 points, T:2300, killed by a system shock 03:41 kicking boots nerfed :( 03:41 high heels skill nerfed :( 03:42 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:42 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:42 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:42 well I might re-adjust the values, since the vast majority of damage came from martial arts skill anyway 03:43 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:43 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 03:44 it took stacking together loads of thoroughly trained skills with kicking boots being high heels to get damage that high 03:44 but for half the monsters kicking gets blocked all the time 03:44 seems like small things do backflips or whatever even with expert high heels 03:44 and large things just stop the kick 03:45 lol your 'new things' commit appears to be much nicer to slashthem 03:45 yeah those descriptions were from before the great purge and have somehow survived, so I changed them now 03:46 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class P), on T:518 03:48 YASlexI: vorpal heels that can behead monsters when kicked 03:48 heh 03:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2614 03:52 gtg now unfortunately, but I might give back some of the kicking nerf when I find the time 03:52 generally it'll still be weaker than before though :P 03:53 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 03:59 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2727 04:06 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2682 04:11 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Client Quit] 04:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) murdered Federal Case, her faithful kitten, on T:2794 04:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 610 points, T:2810, killed by a moderately wounded wererat, while praying 04:38 [hdf-au] [4k] Doggerel (PeachMuffin) (Bar Dwa Mal Law) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:1729 04:46 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 04:49 -!- joes_ is now known as joppe 04:52 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 04:54 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:57 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:59 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:6205 05:25 -!- joppe has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:30 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a magical bone-carved staff entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:44364 05:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:7198 05:36 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 05:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:7303 05:42 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 05:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 375 points, T:208, killed by a dwarf 05:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:5, killed by a water moccasin 05:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7812 05:46 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1355 points, T:3808, killed by a straw golem, while sleeping 05:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 58 points, T:96, killed by an arrow trap 05:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 109 points, T:174, killed by a dart trap 05:48 [hdf-eu] [slshm] luisjo (Bar Dop Mal Neu), 977 points, T:1604, killed by an iguana, while helpless 05:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible CntFai's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:8442 05:54 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 05:57 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4610 06:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:19653 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5729 points, T:5441, killed by a wounded gargoyle 06:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:2451 06:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:20303 06:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3000 06:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:20576 06:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:9593 06:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Raider, on T:21215 06:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:58 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4889 points, T:10923, killed by an uninjured bat, while fainted from lack of food 07:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2388 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:22982 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22985 07:14 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 07:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Val Hum Mal Neu), 1897 points, T:2505, killed by a wounded troll 07:42 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:45 Question about receiving an artifact from saccing. Wiki says: "Your first gift will be a co-aligned artifact", but is that still true if you got crowned earlier as Wizard and received a spellbook as crowning gift? Because the first artifact gift I received as Wizard was the unaligned Frost Brand. 07:48 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5770 points, T:3289, killed by a lizard 07:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:7325 07:52 <@iatrocrat> how to make a good stack of ranged weapons? 07:53 <@iatrocrat> daggers, spears, etc 08:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Hea Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:9134 08:06 mobileuser i'm pretty sure that if your role has a guaranteed first artifact ac gift, and you get a different artifact instead, the artifact you were expecting already exists 08:06 *sac 08:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4492 points, T:9644, killed by an uninjured dwarf 08:08 Hi K2, but in that case I would have expected to receive a neutral artifact, not an unaligned one? 08:10 either/or I think 08:10 "Your first gift will be a co-aligned artifact" is confusing then 08:10 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 08:10 there are plenty of neutral ones I could get... 08:10 hmm 08:11 i'll dig in pray.c when i get more than a free min 08:11 but regardless, i'm pretty sure the artifact you were expecting is already out there somewhere 08:11 i bet some newt has it 08:12 Thx! I wondered if the situation is perhaps different if you are crowned 08:12 so far magicbane remains unfound 08:12 comb the desert! 08:12 maybe it was eaten by a brown pudding :b 08:12 hah 08:13 i wonder if magicbane did spawn in a dipilated armory and then got eaten 08:13 that's... evil 08:13 yeah, I've had 3 of them so far. evil! 08:14 makes me want to watch - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rADdKqPNdaM 08:14 lol 08:15 but even then: receiving an unaligned artifact as the first one surprises 08:15 me 08:15 yeah 08:15 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) murdered Federal Case, her faithful kitten, on T:133 08:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 691 points, T:1735, killed by a dwarf 08:16 Hecubus, pick a card, any card... 'no!' 08:16 evil evil! dirty dirty evil! 08:16 Must remember to use "Puppy of Purgatory" as pet name 08:17 hahah 08:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) murdered Federal Case, her faithful kitten, on T:105 08:18 you havent changed alignment ahve you? 08:18 *have 08:18 nope. neutral all the way. 08:19 hmm 08:20 welp, we'll need you to return frost brand, we've provided a box and a shipping label for your convenience 08:20 allow 6-8 weeks for handling and processing 08:21 we'll then send out an appropriate artifact 08:21 we apologize for any distress this may have caused you or your family 08:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 120 points, T:1012, killed by a boulder 08:25 nope, send out an appropriate artifact NOW. I'll keep frost brand as compensation for all the distress mkaythxbye 08:28 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 490 points, T:1532, killed by a wounded dwarf, while sleeping 08:37 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:48 <@Joanna> I'm dying please send help. As in memes. 08:49 Press F to pay respects. 08:49 F 08:53 <@Joanna> <3 08:53 <@Joanna> Srsly tho i need da memes 08:53 What's the worst that can happen? 08:54 I'm sure it'll be fine. 08:54 Nothing can go wrong. 08:54 <@Joanna> It's just boring af lol 08:54 Play more NetHack. 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 190 points, T:1966, killed by a wand 08:56 <@Joanna> Not sure I can on these PCs 08:57 <@Joanna> Depends whether powershell/WSL/openssh are shipped by default on Windows 10 these days 08:58 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 08:58 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:00 play on hterm! 09:01 <@Joanna> Isn't hterm broken lol 09:01 on Firefox it is, on Chrome it works 09:01 <@Joanna> They only have edge installed on these bullshit PCs ._. 09:02 :/ 09:02 <@Joanna> I guess I can try if it works on edge, for science :b 09:02 I think it should work, Edge uses the same engine as Chrome 09:02 <@Joanna> Edge is so shit tho 09:02 <@Joanna> D: 09:03 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:04 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 289442 points, T:35181, killed by a heavily wounded black dragon, while praying 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 446 points, T:1975, killed by a boulder 09:07 playing nethack does nothing to improve your employability 09:08 what if you're applying for a job as a pudding farmer? 09:08 then you're gonna die of despair so you should change careers before that happens 09:10 <@Joanna> Hahaha 09:10 you gotta do the needful before playing vidya 09:11 <@Joanna> It's true 09:11 <@Joanna> Send memes tho 09:11 <@Joanna> :< 09:11 what are they making you do? 09:11 we need to figure out a way to make a career out of playing nethack 09:12 $1000/ascension kind of thing 09:12 <@Joanna> This guy was explaining how to use the jobcentre website. It was very dull. I excused myself for a telephone interview except I accidentally did that an hour too early 09:12 maybe we can get advertising inside nethack? *knocks on wood* 09:12 <@Joanna> And then decided to stay outside until the actual thing because it's nice out <.< 09:12 cosmetic hats with sponsored branding on 09:13 rebatela: give me a billion dollars and I'll set that up 09:13 <{Demo}4> its 63 right now 09:13 76 here 09:13 <@Joanna> Lmao imagine how rich Luxi or stth would be 09:13 <{Demo}4> wtf its gonna rain 09:14 <@Joanna> It's 21 here in Celsius 09:14 24 °C here 09:14 <{Demo}4> where's celsius? 09:14 <{Demo}4> sounds cold there 09:14 <@Joanna> Celsius is near to Kelvin 09:14 if i had a billion dollars i would seriously do it aosdict 09:14 <@Joanna> And far away from Fahrenheit 09:14 id trust you with it 09:14 Kelvin is better than the other places. it's never negative 09:15 <@Joanna> Haha 09:15 everyones always going on about this Kevin guy, is he a famous thermometrist? 09:15 or maybe you get paid by your score. People won't paly for low score anymore 09:15 <@Joanna> Lol 09:16 US$ 1 for every 1000 points you score 09:16 <@Joanna> Sounds great nabru 09:16 <@Joanna> Where do i sign up 09:16 if we all act like K2 agreed to pay us, and act all happy and excited he'd feel too bad to not pay out 09:17 we all in? 09:17 sounds good 09:17 <@Joanna> Yep let's do this 09:18 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 361 points, T:691, killed by a small mimic 09:20 * K2 puts on an amulet of peer pressure resistance 09:20 lol 09:20 lol 09:20 oh wait, i dont need that. i'm already 100% resistant :) 09:21 <@Joanna> Darn, we were so sure that would work 09:21 OK you got me 09:21 who do i write a check to 09:21 <@Joanna> Me pls 09:21 does the brothel have a po box? 09:21 that would be a sweet job though 09:21 <{Demo}4> owneeeeddddd 09:21 :P 09:21 <@Joanna> Lmao 09:21 see how I did that 09:21 -!- lxlldr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:22 obviously a lot of people DO get paid to play nethack... 09:22 <@Joanna> Yes v clever 09:22 luxidream monetizes nethack 09:22 we dont do checks anymore. whats your bitcoin address? 09:22 by exploiting the poor people who play in tournaments for a shred of fame 09:22 this has gone on too long I say 09:22 <@Joanna> I'll give u my btc wallet addy later k2 09:23 <@Joanna> When i fet home 09:23 actually, I wonder if stenno1 will figure a way to produce cryptocoin from ascending 09:23 each asc generates a block of X amount of coins 09:23 or just one coin 09:23 <@Joanna> Yes aosdict it is unacceptable 09:23 or whatevs 09:24 every asc makes the global difficulty of ascending more difficult 09:24 <@Joanna> Luxidream is getting rich off of myself, stenno, tommo, g1ord and others :V 09:24 K2: then the problem is what do we do in this new nethack crypto economy where luxidream and stth control the currency 09:24 or you get less coins for a combo that's already completed 09:24 stth? 09:24 when have they played last? 09:24 <@Joanna> Zscore bitcoin lel 09:24 !lastgame stth 09:24 nabru: No last game for stth. 09:26 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:26 <@Joanna> Apparently today is some sort of trans visibility day takes off ring and cloak 09:28 <@Joanna> Oh no im intrinsically invisible still 09:28 <@Joanna> Nvm 09:28 hah 09:28 <{Demo}4> try a mummy wrapping 09:29 <@Joanna> Lol 09:29 question - is it possible in the invisible objects patch (so like, grunthack) to have an invisible mummy wrapping? and does it still block invisibility if you wear it? 09:30 yes to first part, dunno about the 2nd 09:30 grunthack implementation is a lil buggy 09:30 <{Demo}4> ask slashem 09:30 <{Demo}4> cause it actually works in slashem 09:31 well thats where grunthack would have gotten it from 09:31 most likely 09:31 <{Demo}4> never trust a variant developer to do anything sane ever (or do it right) 09:34 ikr? 09:34 <{Demo}4> especially assert whether or not variant developers do anything sane ever (or right) 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3594 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3598 09:35 can't seem to dip mummy wrappings in potion of invis in slashem 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3627 09:35 just get 'interesting...' 09:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Robber, on T:22554 09:37 maybe because mummy wrappings are inherently anti-invisible? 09:37 since they turn you visible when you put them on 09:37 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1452 points, T:559, killed by a jackal 09:37 yeah, it's listed under always_visible macro 09:37 <{Demo}4> what else is always visible? 09:37 <{Demo}4> see invis pots? 09:37 just mummy wrapping and coins 09:38 <{Demo}4> ok 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10176 points, T:3956, killed by a chameleon 09:39 were you worried there'd be another wtf that would cause you to curse Warren Cheung? 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 24 points, T:74, killed by a jackal 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1868 points, T:4202, killed by an uninjured dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:73872 09:41 i remember things like potions of invis/rings of invis were always invisible 09:41 oh and the spellbook 09:41 <{Demo}4> i wanna meet him before he dies 09:41 have fun reading that unless you have see invis 09:42 <{Demo}4> and try to get his soul reconciled and save him from needing to suffer eternally for what he's done 09:42 <{Demo}4> oh yeah and maybe get some answers 09:42 lol wut 09:43 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 588 points, T:977, killed by a hobbit 09:43 <{Demo}4> i have spent way too many hours playing slashem 09:44 <{Demo}4> and have way too few answers 09:44 'and save him from needing to suffer eternally for what he's done' <--- explain please :) 09:44 <{Demo}4> slashem just does some shit that it's like "what the fuck were you thinking when u did this, die plz" 09:44 <{Demo}4> and he needs to atone for those sins 09:45 lol 09:45 what's your (least) favourite example? 09:45 <{Demo}4> also a lot of the decisions on how to implement things 09:45 <{Demo}4> honestly i can't keep all those ideas in my head at once and it isn't something i think about often enough to remember 09:45 haha 09:46 <{Demo}4> im sure ive complained about it on irc 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:3557 09:46 you definitely have, it's been funny every time 09:46 * K2 wonders if some people feel the same way about evilhack 09:46 :P 09:46 like when you found out fire vampires and star vampires aren't drain resist because not real vampire 09:47 or that you can be safe from biting cockatrices whilst poly'd if you're wielding a weapon 09:48 but not if using martial arts 09:48 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 464 points, T:515, killed by a jackal 09:48 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:9, killed by a fox 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6202 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1015 points, T:1644, suffocated by a water elemental 09:55 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:56 <@Joanna> Whew 09:56 <@Joanna> I think that went well 09:56 \o/ 09:56 <@Joanna> I applied for js frontent and the hr person said akahually i think this perl job in the backend might be a good fit for u 09:57 I didn't know you were a Perl type 09:57 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 375 points, T:1348, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 09:57 me neither 09:57 <@Joanna> Perl was one of my first langs lol 09:57 <@Joanna> Plus I'll take anything if they're paying me 09:57 <@Joanna> Even JavaScript 09:58 perl6 or whatsitcalled nowadays is funky 09:58 Perl 6 decided it wasn't Perl at all, IIRC 09:58 <@Joanna> I hope they're not using perl6 lmao 09:58 ah 'raku' 09:58 My first language was BBC BASIC but I did meet perl in about '97 and am still content with it 10:00 [hdf-us] [sp] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 569 points, T:1753, killed by a sewer rat 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2558 points, T:2859, killed by a wounded dwarf lady 10:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Kostchtchie, on T:74531 10:16 I have heard potentially promising things about Perl7. 10:16 Specifically, that it will be based more closely on 5 than 6. 10:17 Perl6 seemed like a good idea at first, but 10:26 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 10:29 <{Demo}4> perl2thefuture 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 13424 points, T:19779, quit 10:42 <@iatrocrat> im really having trouble with tourist 10:42 <@iatrocrat> ac 2 level 8 10:42 <@iatrocrat> still weak as hell 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:6907 10:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:75293 10:54 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1852 points, T:3003, killed by an ape 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:37604 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:37606 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1912 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 188 points, T:455, killed by a wounded brown mold 11:01 <@iatrocrat> okay guys 11:01 <@iatrocrat> im a tourist 11:01 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 11:01 <@iatrocrat> i have cleaver, werebane, and giantslayer 11:01 {Demo}4: I take offence to that variant developer comment of yours. don't put slashem devs into the same garbage can as other variant developers 11:02 {Demo}4: also, what are you counting upwards? 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:52122 11:03 <{Demo}4> I wish I was in the same garbage can as warren because then I could try to get some answers 11:03 <{Demo}4> id have him at a disadvantage cause I'd have the home ground advantage 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1380 points, T:2638, killed by a nearly deceased dwarf 11:05 <@Joanna> Lol Demo 11:11 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 6359 points, T:14549, killed by a leocrotta 11:14 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 14907 points, T:6290, killed by a dwarf mummy 11:15 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:52134 11:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 208 points, T:1537, killed by a slightly wounded gnome lady 11:21 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:9486 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:9532 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 74 points, T:306, killed by a land mine 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 430 points, T:758, killed by an uninjured bat 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:1252 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by an uninjured paper golem), on T:1256 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1057 points, T:1601, killed by a slightly wounded dwarf lady 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1213 points, T:1975, killed by an uninjured gnome 11:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:34825 11:56 [hdf-us] [slex] blutkampfer (Poi Ang Fem Cha), 19 points, T:509, killed by a monster (fefexorn) 11:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) was given Sickle Moon, on T:6476 11:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34897 12:03 what's a good magic lamp xnh wish now that dragon scale mail isn't an option any more? 12:03 I have neither reflection nor MR and there's a guy with a wand of death in the quest so I need to deal with that eventually 12:08 I do have a scroll of genocide... maybe I should reverse geno gray dragons first, see whether I get dragon scales from that, and then wish based on the result? 12:08 * aosdict does the montgomery burns "excellent" gesture 12:15 [hdf-us] [slex] blutkampfer (Tra Ang Mal Cha) killed the assassin of MaxLunar, the former Whetblade, on T:1292 12:20 you can't wish for dsm in xnh? that's kinda cool 12:21 that's new then? 12:21 dsm as an item doesn't exist any more in xnh 12:21 <{Demo}4> xnh got rid of dsm in favor of whack magooooo shit 12:22 instead you can apply dragon scales to base armor, to produce e.g. a "silver dragon scaled leather armor" or "gray dragon scaled crystal plate mail" or whatever 12:22 it is a new thing 12:23 "apply" is a bit misleading, I mean it's not as simple as using the a command 12:24 <{Demo}4> can i put it on my boots instead? 12:29 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:29 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 12:29 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:31 you have to train skill in sewing 12:31 these dragon scales arent just gonna stick to this chain mail all by themselves... 12:31 <{Demo}4> enchant armor is magic 12:31 <{Demo}4> way more powerful than sewing 12:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Daemon, on T:77557 12:36 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 337 points, T:940, killed by uninjured Mr. Akureyri; the shopkeeper 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3492 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3498 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:25854 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25855 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3541 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Bartlem's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3557 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3584 12:51 <@deathsushi> You can't apply scales in XNH can you? 12:51 <@deathsushi> I udnerstood you can only fuse them to armor using an enchant armor scroll 12:51 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1680 12:53 yeah that's right 12:54 I was trying to use apply in a more general sense but it ended up being sort of misleading 12:56 <@deathsushi> Ah gotcha 12:56 <@deathsushi> The nice thing about that is that you can wear them as a cloak alongside a pair that is fused 12:56 <@deathsushi> So you can fuse the GDS, and then wear the SDS, if you need to 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:25946 12:56 <{Demo}4> I should be able to pile tjem 12:57 <{Demo}4> fuse gds onto cpm with silver fused onto it 12:57 <{Demo}4> keep stacking 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:25968 13:01 if I have a crystal plate mail and a mithril dwarvish ring mail, which one is a better choice for fusing gray dragon scales? 13:01 as a samurai 13:02 or is there some other more ideal kind of armor that I should look for? 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:53074 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2678 13:07 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 894668 points, T:87256, quit 13:08 <{Demo}4> !lastgame Feya 13:08 {Demo}4: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/F/Feya/dnethack/dumplog/1605975539.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/F/Feya/dnethack/dumplog/1617085801.dnh.txt 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3086 13:09 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 13:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 345 points, T:341, killed by a carnivorous bag 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3317 13:13 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:13 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:14 [hdf-us] [slex] blutkampfer (Tra Ang Mal Cha), 14377 points, T:3806, petrified by a thrown petrifying egg 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Bartlem's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4019 13:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 994 points, T:1369, killed by a gnome 13:23 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 124 points, T:477, killed by a small mimic 13:26 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Dresser, on T:13778 13:27 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 13:27 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 13:27 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:1154 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1193 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1199 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:5221 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:1206 13:34 <@Joanna> Speedboots wish smh my head 13:34 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:4778 13:34 <@Joanna> I guess I have to repeat myself 13:34 <@Joanna> Speedboots wish smh my head 13:35 unihorns don't heal stats in splicehack do they? 13:35 because a throne just made me ugly af 13:35 <@Joanna> Not sure 13:35 <{Demo}4> do they heal it anywhere anymore? 13:35 <@Joanna> Lol who cares about charisma 13:35 <@Joanna> Just get more money 13:35 well my charisma is 3 13:35 <@Joanna> Or Rob the store 13:35 it would do wonders for my self-esteem if it were higher 13:35 <{Demo}4> if ur christmas goes below 3 u die of ugliness (and santa) 13:35 <@Joanna> Unless ur planning on getting laid it doesn't matter 13:36 I think with charisma of 3 the shopkeeper is going to be on guard against stealing attempts, or just refuse to let you in because you'll scare off all the other customers. 13:36 <@Joanna> Hahaha 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2026 13:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2328 13:38 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 10575 points, T:5063, exterminated by a storm giant called Vizier Dophomor 13:38 lol oops 13:38 <@nabru> rip 13:39 <@Joanna> Rip amateurhour 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:1872 13:39 is that the guy with a mccauley-style artifact 13:39 "artifact" 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Stef75 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2811 points, T:2191, killed by a wounded watchman 13:39 <@Joanna> !rng go home and nap | do smth else idk 13:39 @Joanna: do smth else idk 13:40 <@Joanna> Key 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6957 points, T:6140, quit 13:41 no idea, if they have a weapon I'd have never id'd it 13:41 guess you're not allowed to go home aoei 13:41 rip 13:42 [hdf-eu] [nh343] abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 353 points, T:1270, killed by a brown mold 13:43 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:45 <@Joanna> That's alright the weather is really nice now 13:46 they've gotta figure out how to rotate 2a 45 degrees before it can be release 13:47 <{Demo}4> lmfao 13:47 <{Demo}4> I wouldn't even be mad at that point 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2491 13:47 <{Demo}4> its raining now 13:47 <{Demo}4> very un happy 13:48 <@luxidream> the boulder cannot move orthogonally on this level 13:48 <{Demo}4> oh god 13:48 hahaha 13:48 <{Demo}4> fuck, that might actually be possible 13:51 is your mood tied to the weather Demo? what happens when it hails? 13:51 unbridled rage 13:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Roamer, on T:37865 13:52 <{Demo}4> i wanted to go out in the nice 70 degree weather 13:52 <{Demo}4> but now its raining and gonna slowly go down to like 25 degrees 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful baby orange dragon, on T:47 13:57 does anyone have any advice on what armor to fuse with gray dragon scales in xnh?? 13:57 please I am begging you 13:57 I can't make decisions on my own 13:57 I guess this is a new enough mechanic that there may not be a real consensus yet 13:58 dunce cap 13:59 <@luxidream> i mean you aren't casting spells 13:59 <@luxidream> so mithril seems logical 13:59 <{Demo}4> i have no clue 13:59 <{Demo}4> wizmode test every armor 14:00 xnh doesn't have specific mithril-coat items 14:00 but I do have mithril dwarvish ring mail aosdict 14:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 22394 points, T:5600, killed by a mountain centaur 14:01 Can someone help me understand polypiling, especially how to handle scrolls.  Do you identify them first?  Do you blank them? No clue, and the guide is even more confusing 14:02 <{Demo}4> dont blank 14:02 <{Demo}4> plz identify so u know if ur polying shit u want or not 14:02 why not Demo? I usually blank ones I don't want so I can bless them all 14:02 then divvy them up into smaller stacks 14:02 I didn't know that was a bad idea 14:02 <{Demo}4> some variants prevent that 14:02 <{Demo}4> idk what hes playing 14:03 <{Demo}4> if you blank in some variants, they stay blank 14:03 oh huh 14:05 So how do you identify everything in first place?  I seldom find scrolls of identify, and have tons of unidentified stuff 14:05 <{Demo}4> what are you playing? 14:05 <{Demo}4> what variant? 14:06 Playing Slash'EM extended Ghost hunter doppelganger 14:06 <{Demo}4> oh 14:07 <{Demo}4> you can't really polypile there or identify items reliabley 14:07 looting all the vaults and paying shopkeepers works okay 14:07 assuming you find any shopkeepers that will id things for you 14:08 Just ask Amy what everything is 14:08 what would Amy do? 14:08 WWAD 14:08 catchy 14:08 she'd read test all the scrolls 14:08 lol, I've no idea how to loot vaults and stuff.  I'm pretty new here 14:08 and not mind if she got punished, amnesia'd, covided, etc 14:09 and you're playing slex?! lol you picked the whackest thing to play 14:10 usually I try to id scrolls (and some armour) asap, trying to find scroll of inventory id 14:10 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 14:11 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11 sometimes you'll hear guards in a vault, with messages like 14:11 You hear the footsteps of a guard on patrol. 14:11 you can dig to try find them, they've got a lot of gold in 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 12089 points, T:7074, killed by a giant mimic 14:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15517 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:294 14:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:49177 14:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:49179 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:14574 14:22 roho: when you say "new here" do you mean the channel, or slex, or playing nethack, or something else? 14:23 select as many as you like 14:24 imagine someone's first ever nethack (or roguelike for that matter) experience being slex 14:24 just - imagine - it 14:24 well that's where i was headed, yeah 14:24 if they master it, anything else will be easy 14:24 Roho, there are support groups available to help you emotionally 14:25 hah but imagine the playing style of someone who learned on slex 14:25 "I didn't know that it was supposed to be impossible to ascend with conducts in slex" 14:26 anyway if you have fun playing slex, go for it 14:26 this is like some backwoods genius discovering the unified grand theory, all because they didnt have any pre-conceived notions of what was wrong or deemed to be impossible 14:26 well not yet 14:26 'no one told me you couldnt time travel' 14:27 yeah scrolls of time in evilhack when 14:28 well, lemme read one now, go back in time and talk to my earlier self 14:28 what do you mean 'scrolls of time' in evilhack? they've been there since day one 14:29 :P 14:29 you fibber 14:29 aww you missed what i did there 14:30 yes i see it now 14:30 :D 14:31 i meant splicehack scrolls of time 14:32 they should exist, be extremely rare, expensive to buy and to write 14:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:16561 14:34 oh i see now what happened. i completely missed your line about reading one and talking to your past self 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a dagger entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5663 14:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:1296 14:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:16824 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 13626 points, T:5752, petrified by touching a chickatrice corpse bare-handed 14:40 !lastgame bouquet 14:40 Message from Roho at 2021-03-31 13:18 EDT: [private] I have so many questions.  I still don't understand how you choose items for polypiling: do you identify first, random scrolls and items, or  what? 14:40 Message from Roho at 2021-03-31 13:19 EDT: [private] and how do you get wishes 14:40 hothraxxa: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/dumplog/1576989832.nh.html | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1617163495.evil.html 14:40 hmm that doesn't seem very [private] 14:40 <@Joanna> LMAO qt. True. 14:41 ok. roho seems to be new to irc in general 14:41 and nethack 14:41 so the response would have been all of the above 14:42 <@Joanna> Lol 14:42 !msg Beholder !tell qt is this private? 14:42 oops 14:42 . 14:42 huh that did send it to me privately 14:42 roho: if you can read this just say yes in the channel window. don't use !tell 14:42 why did it print it publicly in that case? 14:42 !lastgame qt 14:42 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/xnethack/dumplog/1616800922.xnh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/splicehack/dumplog/1607092846.splice.html 14:43 i'll help you from there 14:44 yes 14:45 hah. ok for a private chat in irc, use /query. that opens a window with just you and the other person. i'll open one with you ok? 14:45 <@Joanna> Props to hothraxxa bein nice and helpful 14:46 <@Joanna> Actually that reminds me... Can i pm u when I get hope 14:46 i sent you a msg in a /query window so just answer it there 14:46 <@Joanna> I have vape questions 14:46 yes definitely 14:46 <@Joanna> Home* 14:46 <@Joanna> Okey 14:47 <{Demo}4> hothraxxa, bit morbid of a question, but when u die can i put a little garden in the healer quest with a throughly historic statue of u with a vape in it in ndnh or would that be offensive or something? 14:47 lol 14:47 heh. i'd be honoured 14:50 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:52 must be thoroughly historic 14:52 partially eaten 14:52 only the best for hothraxxa 14:53 related question, how do you like spinach? 14:53 <{Demo}4> with bacon 14:53 <{Demo}4> raw 14:53 <{Demo}4> not the bacon thats raw but the spinach 14:53 nethack spinach is fine. irl cooked gives me gag reflex, raw makes me spit 14:53 that sounds like collard greens {Demo}4 14:53 <{Demo}4> and tomato and bread and cream cheese 14:54 <{Demo}4> its its a bst 14:54 I've recently learned to make really good palak paneer so I've been eating a lot of spinach 14:55 sup 14:55 <{Demo}4> looks like something someone would make on st pattys day as a joke 14:55 dont listen to anythin that Joanna says she is a liar and a menace 14:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a bronze spellbook given to her by Hermes, on T:5359 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 234 points, T:827, killed by an uninjured large kobold 15:09 -!- joppe has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:13 oh wow i left this logged in 15:14 hi spicycebolla 15:16 spicycebolla: that's how most people irc :) 15:16 well i like knowing whether and when i'm connected 15:17 tmux got one over on me 15:17 valid enough 15:17 don't worry we logged all the stuff you said while you were gone 15:17 <[{Demo}]> wow im still here 15:18 <{Demo}4> imagine idling in a channel for months and months and never saying anything... couldn't be me ;) 15:18 or me 15:20 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:20 <@deathsushi> Sounds like there have been a few a-spicy meatballs in this channel today 15:20 -!- qt is now known as qt_ 15:21 there's been no CNT-FAI drama 15:21 so that's good 15:21 <@deathsushi> She came in on a gust of wind and vanished just as quickly 15:21 now let's not speak unkindly of the dearly unplatformed 15:22 <@deathsushi> Did she get banned or something? 15:22 yeah 15:22 -!- qt_ is now known as qt 15:22 <@deathsushi> er, whut? What happened? 15:22 cancel culture run amok 15:22 <{Demo}4> my secret secret name is meatballs 15:22 was repeatedly aggressive and picking fights including in private messages apparently 15:22 she pissed off k2 which is pretty hard to do 15:23 <@deathsushi> How? 15:23 <@deathsushi> Oh I see your message there qt 15:23 in private messages 15:23 <@deathsushi> That's.... weird 15:23 <@deathsushi> We're pretty chill here 15:23 alas the worst crime of all, constantly posting random twitter crap, went unpunished 15:23 lol 15:23 i wouldnt say pissed off. just... she was a bit nasty 15:23 <@deathsushi> Oh lo, that Whit guy 15:23 no time for drama 15:23 <{Demo}4> somehow i exist and all i do is push buttons but im generally good at working out when to stop 15:24 huh. 15:24 <@deathsushi> Well good work flexing those nuts 15:24 when i were a lad we never had no buttons to push 15:24 that sounds painful deathsushi 15:24 <{Demo}4> now its all that's left 15:24 all we had was rocks and we were happy to have them 15:24 <{Demo}4> cant even go outside and no nothing just say inside and press buttons 15:25 <@deathsushi> aosdict: Just gotta do the keigels 15:26 posting random twitter crap gets you banned? 15:26 * bhaak brb 15:26 no 15:26 it should 15:26 i dont look at twitter 15:26 what did i miss 15:26 ? 15:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 6564 points, T:10127, killed by invisible Mr. Gweebarra; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 15:27 <@deathsushi> Was she picking a fight with you directly k2? Via PM? 15:27 it was obnoxious and irrelevant to anything, but ignorable for the most part 15:27 yup 15:27 https://twitter.com/Hagalaz667/status/1173158785805901825 15:27 I don't use twitter either, CNT-FAI just constantly posted a deluge of links to random tweets 15:27 <@deathsushi> Well that was dumb 15:27 basically unrelated to the actual drama but it was annoying 15:27 <@deathsushi> She's never going to ascend now 15:28 https://twitter.com/darklordoflinux/status/1374770969630359556 15:28 @deathsushi I mean it was only a matter of time before she went to the "the powers that be are against me" 15:28 bhaak you're doing it wrong 15:28 <{Demo}4> i want nethack and a lot of food 15:28 these are relevant tweets 15:28 bhaak you are doing it wrong, these are nethack related 15:28 <@deathsushi> Yah 15:28 <@deathsushi> You need to post random tweets that are about nothing 15:28 qt the copycat 15:28 yeah i mean, iirc K2 tried to like explain her the rules or ask her to chill down on a few things 15:28 and she then got hostile in pm 15:28 https://twitter.com/Zeshio/status/1060934534227619841 15:28 DONT SHOUT AT THE MODS U DUMMY 15:29 this is like, internet conduct 101 15:29 pls 15:29 fwiw i'm lifting her ban early next week 15:29 https://twitter.com/dingir_bhaak/status/1230130504898314243 15:29 am I going out of my to let her know? no 15:29 https://twitter.com/SOL1DX/status/916129225559683072 15:29 <{Demo}4> yoooo thatspretty sick bhaak 15:29 <{Demo}4> the levels 15:29 K2: thats fair lol 15:29 https://twitter.com/RainyRat/status/804317667834417152 15:30 https://twitter.com/RandomBrewers_/status/1377330984874508288 15:30 ^ how you do it 15:30 <{Demo}4> dont play unnethack it has an advent calendar and all it gave me was a stinking candy bar 15:30 obviously, you didn't deserve anything better 15:31 aoei: I'm a mod in a subreddit and you wouldn't think how many people are just obnoxious to the mods. If I banned everybody who was insulting the mods, I would have to do much less modding ... hmmmmm 15:31 bhaak: LOL 15:32 also :O 15:32 Patric Mueller has a twitter!? 15:32 <@deathsushi> bhaak make it so 15:32 im a big fan of that guy 15:32 shame i have no twitter accoujnt 15:32 or i would for sure follow him 15:32 wow, he is so cool 15:32 he's kinda a famous. he knows an oscar award winner in real life 15:32 bhaak: woah :o 15:33 i played a game written by a guy who knows a famous guy :o 15:35 but does he know kevin bacon 15:35 bhaak: sounds like you're not authoritarian enough to be a mod! 15:35 <@deathsushi> Oh you mean LORD Kevin Bacon? 15:35 disagree with a mod? yeeeeeeeerrrr out! 15:35 spicycebolla: I've since come to the conclusion that you should be a nice mod 80% of the time and an evil nazi mod 20% of the time 15:35 /Umpire_the_Bannem 15:35 so you let loose on friday 15:35 bhaak: yeah but if someone gets like *hostile* and *shouts* at you in pm because you tried to tell them off 15:36 that person is getting bannt 15:36 like 15:36 no question 15:36 <@deathsushi> bhaak the pareto principle of moderating 15:36 deathsushi: ha :D 15:36 firm but fair 15:36 ^ live by it 15:36 {Demo}4: i parked that calendar portal for half or so of december, it did give one usefulish thing 15:37 dun' remember what. a tool? whatever it was, i found another one soon after 15:37 YASI: Advent calendar but it appears at a different time of the year every year. 15:37 okay actually, a random holiday that has no correlation to earth calendar sounds cool 15:38 <{Demo}4> i did an advent calendar during covid 15:38 <{Demo}4> when it started thinking it would be overish in a month 15:38 <{Demo}4> ahahahahahahahahhahaaaa 15:38 every day is a holiday 15:38 ;qa 15:38 oops 15:39 they did say that every day is halloween 15:39 aoei: as a Brit you wouldn't know the concept of being so nice to basically mean "fuck you" in the worst possible way. "scheissfreundlich" 15:39 fun fact - today is national crayon day 15:39 bhaak: LOL 15:39 bhaak: we totally have that too tho 15:39 K2: transgender visibility day is national crayon day? 15:39 is that also today? 15:39 maybe its both? 15:39 aoei: I actually don't want to ban people just because they are shouting at me. that will just make them think that I was acting emotionally. 15:40 K2: yeah i literally mentioned this earlier 15:40 you even laughed at my joke 15:40 neat 15:40 about invis rings 15:40 that fits 15:40 lol 15:40 bhaak: i dont want to ban anyone at all :/ 15:40 don't lie K2 you have been itching to ban me for months 15:40 * K2 sighs 15:40 ok you got me 15:41 bhaak: thats not how i see it. if they start shouting at a mod it shows they are not capable of behaving maturely 15:41 <@iatrocrat> got my first ascension potential tourist 15:41 when confronted with a request to change their behaviour 15:41 and thus immediate ban 15:41 if we ban qt from #hardfought they'll get bored and do more evilhack commits 15:41 tomorrow, besides being april fools, is also international fun at work day 15:41 <@iatrocrat> but i have low AC, no MR or reflect, and have suffered a lot 15:41 nice work @iatrocrat 15:41 banned from #hardfought != banned from #evilhack 15:42 but if he is also banned from #evilhack he can still hang out in #xnethack and do xnh commits :> 15:42 K2: if you have to ban people is not up to you :) 15:42 @iatrocrat - progress through suffering 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:62162 15:42 yeah but that will keep their mind focused on #evilhack 15:42 which will trick their brain into thinking about programming fixes 15:42 hahah 15:42 aoei: well, sometimes people get agitated. especially if you are just politely answer their questions and they take it as passive-aggressive. dunno how that happens :) 15:42 i tried to be visible on transgender visibility day but nobody noticed 15:43 need more crayons 15:43 bhaak: lmao 15:43 <@iatrocrat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/824680168949678140/826904313027756062/unknown.png 15:43 <@iatrocrat> currently reorganizing stash 15:43 * aoei stocks up on crayons 15:43 cool 15:44 * aosdict gives aoei a row of floating eyes, a row of kobold lords, a row of dogs, a row of Elvenqueens, and a row of water trolls 15:44 nice 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 297 points, T:1528, killed by an uninjured water demon 15:45 gj 15:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Medica ossium, on T:20913 15:48 <@iatrocrat> yeah this sucks guys 15:49 <@iatrocrat> no identify scrolls pretty much lol 15:49 did u go to castle yet 15:49 it hurts to see uncursed stuff in bright green 15:49 why is everyone except me so very wrong 15:49 woah woah woah excuse you amateurhour 15:50 i think ull find i dont have uncursed in bright green either 15:50 oh thank goodness 15:50 I'm not alone 15:50 i have uncursed in white iirc 15:50 cursed is yoooouzhually red 15:50 me too 15:51 but i dont have blessed in green either i dont think 15:51 idk what i even use green for 15:51 vegan food it hink 15:51 bold green = vegan food, light green = veggie 15:51 hm. i don't do food 15:51 I have green and red for B/C, but also randomly blue for "water" 15:51 I don't know why that is in my config honestly 15:52 light blue for holy water 15:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 105315 points, T:21020, drowned in a pool of water by a giant eel 15:52 i think i lifted my menucolours from Eidolos/Sartak 15:52 many yearse ago 15:52 and then liked them and stuck with them 15:52 it'll be alright iatrocrat, I'm sure some id scrolls will turn up 15:52 i like having various things inverse and underlined too https://0x0.st/-bJd.png 15:52 artifacts are blue 15:53 ohhh i think i have bright green for artis actualy 15:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:40546 15:53 I feel like with background colours on the text the game is screaming at me 15:53 qt: i started doing underline for worn items 15:53 worn/wielded 15:53 bc its like that in ToneHack's config 15:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:40547 15:53 * aoei has no original ideas ever :D 15:54 she just steals ones that are good 15:54 burdened has to be blinking 15:54 spicycebolla: LOL 15:54 yes 15:54 try purple for stormbringer and cleaver 15:54 hothraxxa: lol also good idea 15:54 i have bright magenta for Yendor ammy and invoc items iirc 15:54 i like my colours 15:54 i also have them on autopickup 15:55 <{Demo}4> wait yall play with colors on? 15:55 .. yea 15:55 in evilhack every asshole who dies on astral drops an amulet of yendor 15:55 <{Demo}4> i turn the colors option off... it's for noobs 15:55 USING COLORS IS CHEATING 15:55 hothraxxa: lmao 15:55 <@deathsushi> haha 15:55 to both things 15:55 the astral ammmies must be annoying as hell lol 15:56 reminder to not have that autopickup set (if i ever even get that far in evilhack or play evilhack again at all ever) 15:56 <{Demo}4> just have it match one name REAL 15:56 I think I have it set up to autopickup only the amulet named REAL 15:56 no i don't pick themup. my auropickup is for MY PRECIOUSSSS 15:56 when i type it correctly 15:56 Demo but what about whne you want to autopickup the one in the sanctum? 15:56 temporarily autopickup on any old Yendor ammy 15:56 <{Demo}4> i dont use autopickup 15:56 and then set for only REAL 15:56 <{Demo}4> im not that smart 15:56 also wait 15:57 !rng go to bed | fight bad evil nice funny skeleton 15:57 aoei: go to bed 15:57 <{Demo}4> haha now u must slumber 15:57 yea but its ok cuz i am very tired 15:57 slumber will be gud 15:57 <{Demo}4> whats the o clock? 15:57 its only 10pm lmao 15:57 <{Demo}4> hey thats a good time to sleep 15:57 but i got up at 7:30 and did a lotta shit today 15:58 idk, sometimes i only need 6 hours 15:58 so i risk waking at like 4am 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3690 15:59 <{Demo}4> i need 8+ 15:59 <{Demo}4> only got 7+ last night 15:59 <{Demo}4> angery 15:59 night before last i got 3 16:00 and would have gone back to sleep if i hadnt seen this email saying "we want you here at the training place in a couple hours" 16:00 i was alike 16:00 rip my lie in you fuckers 16:00 YANI evilhack: autopickup exception don't work if your character is too dumb 16:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 32312 points, T:16278, killed by a wounded energy vortex 16:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:103, killed by an uninjured black pudding 16:01 <@iatrocrat> man the neutral sacrifice gifts are kinda crap 16:01 <@iatrocrat> compared to others 16:01 <{Demo}4> not a yani: what bhaak said but irl 16:02 bhaak: lmao nice 16:02 doesn't one variant have your character not being able to read if int is too low? grunthack possibly? 16:03 dunno but lol if so 16:03 <{Demo}4> i was gonna remove reading entirely for cavemen in ndnh 16:04 <{Demo}4> then i realized the balance implications around that were NOT in line with the flint knapping patch 16:04 that's some serious role differentiation 16:05 role differentiation is seriously lacking in nethack 16:05 so it would be cool if some variants made them more diff 16:05 there's a cute patch that gives cavemen some kinda bonus for sticking with illiterate 16:06 nice 16:07 !rng bed | go to bed | getinbed | no srsly, bed | gotobed | go to bed 16:07 spicycebolla: go to bed 16:07 hmm 16:07 the Beholder seems to be sure about this 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4581 16:07 K2: I guess I wasn't the only one with this problem after all (I remember complaining about it a while back): https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/issues/480 16:08 go to bed considered harmful 16:08 FIQ heh yeah 16:09 !8ball should spicycebolla go to bed now? 16:09 K2: Very doubtful 16:09 ^ 8ball doesnt lie 16:10 !8ball does 8ball lie 16:10 amateurhour: It is certain 16:10 !8ball is your answer to this question a lie? 16:10 qt: Don't count on it 16:10 aoei: I'm tackling this gradually, my first tack is to make quests less formulaic 16:10 wow nice work weaseling out of that one 8ball 16:10 !8ball will you give only right answers? 16:10 nabru: Outlook not so good 16:10 8ball for congress 16:10 indeed, Outlook is not very good 16:10 I hate it 16:11 but outlook -- darn 16:12 aosdict: ;o 16:14 <{Demo}4> I'm tired but I gotta stay awake 16:14 just replace the quest with an instance of brevishack 16:14 FIQ: I'm not exactly sure what happens there and if it is or isn't intentional. I'm bisecting and it is at least in there since 2019 16:15 <{Demo}4> call bhaak Ashikaga Takauji the way he's bisecting these commits 16:15 oh, for that matter, is anybody in here playing nethack with a light background? 16:15 I'm not 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed ansic's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:5183 16:15 {Demo}4: Ashikaga Takauji's programming skills are rather lacking 16:15 i saw a picture of someone playing on a light background 16:16 isnt it still afternoon where you're at spicycebolla? 16:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kokushu, on T:50532 16:16 as much as I don't like dark themes, light terminals don't work for me at all 16:16 <{Demo}4> his bisecting skills are prime 16:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 277 points, T:1731, killed by an uninjured black pudding 16:18 nabru: what themes do you use then? low contrast, pastel colored themes? ;-) 16:18 oh i was just tryna force aoei's hand 16:18 hm 16:18 :0 16:18 oh right 16:18 sending me to bed 16:18 er, face 16:18 for being too tired 16:18 i cant yet tho cuz Kid A is still playing 16:18 <@deathsushi> Just explode them 16:19 bhaak: I like solarized themes 16:19 I just don't like pitch-black themes 16:19 <{Demo}4> solaris 16:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed Dagon, on T:88436 16:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2990 16:22 i just slap solarized dark onto everything nabru 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:5424 16:22 <{Demo}4> before i mega evolved i would use some solarized dark theme on sublime text 2 16:22 i have a proof of concept for color themes in unnethack 16:22 <{Demo}4> now you wouldn't find me anywhere near that shitware 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 221 points, T:567, killed by an uninjured dwarf lady 16:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:2157 16:23 I used to love dark themes many years ago, but grew out of them 16:23 https://old.reddit.com/r/vintageunix/comments/gf7xv1/my_fluxbox_desktop_in_2008_at_the_time_i_was_in/ was one of my desktops back in the day 16:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class U), on T:26525 16:23 i'm used to subl's regex style :( 16:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:50978 16:23 always a bit off when i try to find/replace in vim 16:23 epica 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:22, killed by an orcish dagger 16:24 <{Demo}4> my friend got me onto sublime text and now he works at google and doesn't exist anymore 16:25 <{Demo}4> i miss working in person cause my boss would make fun of me for using vim on our windows boxes in the office 16:26 lol 16:27 we can make fun of you for using vim on windows if that would help 16:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:43737 16:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43738 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1161 points, T:2458, killed by an uninjured elf zombie 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:53962 16:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3173 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:6371 16:33 if you look at my game on eu.hdf, that's my current preferred color scheme. 16:33 I'm not completely satisfied with it. it also looks slightly better in 24bit but on the public server, you only get 256 colors 16:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:40755 16:37 amateurhour: I use vim on windows at work 16:37 I've asked for my workstation to be linux but they won't go for it 16:38 <{Demo}4> i need a windows workstation to do my job unfortunately 16:38 <{Demo}4> well, maybe not 16:38 <{Demo}4> but it would be more annoying otherwise 16:38 <{Demo}4> still need a windows environment 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:28512 16:41 at work I use Windows, too 16:42 it's a pity, seeing as most of the stuff we use is either cloud-based or has a Linux version 16:43 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:46 I use a shitty macbook that's missing the T key cap 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:7248 16:47 <@deathsushi> I spilled booze on my macbook, broke the keyboard and they just replaced the whole top section 16:47 <@deathsushi> brute force solution, but it was nice to get all new keys 16:47 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:47 bhaak: does that mean you can have in-game colors override your terminal palette? 16:48 <{Demo}4> my boss tried to trick me into letting him mail me one of those new m1 macbooks so that i could be responsible for supporting all our shitware on them and somehow i managed to talk him out of that 16:48 -!- mwehner has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:48 <{Demo}4> i really fucking hate macbooks 16:48 <{Demo}4> they piss me off 16:48 I considered buying a M1 Macbook, but would be too expensive for me and I'm not sure I would like it 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1223 16:49 <{Demo}4> no esc key? how am i supposed to use vim without barely touching the touchbar and it sucking (yes im aware they added it back on the model after this one but still) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/826921145479331880/unknown.png 16:49 -!- mwehner has joined #hardfought 16:49 I have the M1 macbook but it's personal equipment and I can't use it for work 16:49 Adeon: have you ever talked to post163 16:50 <{Demo}4> if i ever bought a macbook, it would be to shoot it 16:50 if you are a developer then depending on what you work on you may have a good time or terrible time 16:50 spicycebolla: nope 16:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed ezion's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:5243 16:50 <{Demo}4> although, i am VERY happy they are putting armv8 chips in their laptops now 16:50 the hardware is solid, my problem would probably be with macOS 16:50 the M1 doesn't get hot, the battery lasts forever and performance is decent 16:50 you can't plug in two external monitors 16:50 <{Demo}4> probably, but it runs macos 16:50 there's only two usb-c and that's it 16:50 <{Demo}4> also fuck the keyboard 16:50 and it also runs a perfectly fine terminal 16:52 spicycebolla: yes. you can customize single colors. not sure how to fit that to vanilla though. 16:54 -!- mwehner has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:55 -!- mwehner has joined #hardfought 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:39109 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:20958 16:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 51 points, T:230, killed by a sewer rat 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 282 points, T:1325, killed by an uninjured watchman 17:00 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a boomerang bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:1683 17:02 -!- theRaisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:39314 17:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:44508 17:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:3289 17:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2286 points, T:4076, killed by a straw golem 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:39535 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:39555 17:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 369 points, T:1243, killed by a hobbit 17:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 43 points, T:161, killed by a bear trap 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 919 points, T:2289, killed by a dwarf 17:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:39616 17:18 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dra Xra Mal Law), 99318 points, T:19388, quit 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap (5 times), on T:39650 17:20 !tell qt to !tell aoei to update behold_less 17:20 qt shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aoei. 17:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Orc Fem Una) had a heavy war hammer entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:2909 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:39667 17:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Orc Fem Una), 1972 points, T:3750, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:39686 17:24 FIQ: basically a type issue. how surprising. the code uses NO_COLOR for drawing the menu titles. but that number 8 so it uses this color pair which is dark gray 17:26 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6766 points, T:4153, killed by his own bolt of lightning 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2629362 points, T:39745, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/nethack/dumplog/1616857205.nh.html 17:30 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:54538 17:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Hum Mal Una), 2351 points, T:2647, killed by an ape 17:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 51209 points, T:9822, killed by an earth elemental 17:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2513 points, T:2041, poisoned by a dwarf zombie 17:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ansic (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:64, killed by an uninjured goblin 17:40 -!- 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had a javelin entrusted to her by Set, on T:6284 17:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:02 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Quit: spicycebolla] 18:02 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 18:05 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 18:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8342 18:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2448 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 706 points, T:2454, killed by a giant bat, while praying 18:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:8206 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 836 points, T:1359, killed by a wounded dwarf 18:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:11343 18:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) stole 75 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Annootok's general store, on T:11715 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) genocided class @, on T:35398 18:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Clk Fem Non) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:91744 18:24 <@Shadow_Rider> Well f 18:25 <@Shadow_Rider> Accidentally blessed genocided nurses and got myself killed 18:25 Classic blunder 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 258447 points, T:35398, killed by a scroll of genocide 18:25 <@Shadow_Rider> Sad 18:25 <@Shadow_Rider> Easily ascendable too 18:26 Does self-geno leave bones? 18:26 <@Shadow_Rider> Idk but I was in soko 18:27 <@Shadow_Rider> So it won’t leave any 18:27 F 18:28 why would you geno nurses? 18:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:13008 18:28 <@Shadow_Rider> I was tryna nurse dance a few times 18:28 expecting it to be a cursed scroll? ah. 18:29 <@Shadow_Rider> But I didn’t realize I wrote on a blessed scroll 18:29 <@Shadow_Rider> Yeah lmao 18:29 <@Shadow_Rider> Careless 18:29 <@Shadow_Rider> Nethack is all about habits 18:29 !lastgame shadowrider38 18:29 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/nethack/dumplog/1617126347.nh.html 18:29 rip 18:29 even uncursed would have geno'd them, too. 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2155 18:31 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 18:32 -!- Umby has joined #hardfought 18:33 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest24677 18:33 -!- Umby is now known as Umbire 18:33 -!- Guest24677 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 37244 points, T:14027, killed by a death ray 18:34 F 18:35 @iatrocrat This is late but are you sure you're not confusion hallucination blocking instadeath with like, hallucination preventing you from truly meeting Medusa's gaze? 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2546 points, T:2793, killed by a magic missile 18:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had an elven spear entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1209 18:36 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had a small shield entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6448 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:26786 18:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1239 18:52 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 18:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 4789 points, T:8841, killed by a gnomish wizard 19:08 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Quit: spicycebolla] 19:10 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 19:11 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha) had a knife entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:4898 19:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4905 19:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha) had a copper knife entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:5534 19:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2580 19:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 8258 points, T:6677, killed by an elven king 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Kevkat's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:510 19:36 !lastgame kevkat 19:36 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Kevkat/nethack/dumplog/1617227458.nh.html 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Kevkat's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:962 19:45 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 709 points, T:888, killed by a bolt of cold 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:2402 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2671 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3225 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5103 points, T:3343, killed by a wounded yeti 20:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:03 -!- Guthix has quit [Quit: Guthix] 20:03 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 90 points, T:285, killed by a nearly deceased sewer rat 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Pri Hob Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:56346 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:32153 20:12 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 20:13 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:14 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat (Green-elf) for the first time, on T:5906 20:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Cerberus, on T:17782 20:26 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 319 points, T:708, killed by a bolt of cold 20:28 -!- misha is now known as werekitten 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Orb of Fate", on T:8632 20:31 <@Rif (she)> o shit wand and spellbook of poly 20:31 <@Rif (she)> open to strategic input from anyone 20:32 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 20:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6835 20:32 oh shit waddup 20:33 Well spellbook can't be polymorphed, just as a random FYI 20:33 but uh, see if you can find unchanging or poly-control 20:34 <@Rif (she)> ohh nice okay 20:34 <@Rif (she)> ohh nice okay 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:66568 20:34 <@Rif (she)> also it didnt even occur to me that polymorph could apply to items 20:35 We calls it polypiling 20:35 <@Rif (she)> so thats what that is 20:36 <@Rif (she)> btw can you break a lock with striking? bc force bolt doesnt work 20:37 You can break a box 20:37 #force is for forcing locks using whatever you have wielded 20:37 specifically container locks 20:37 <@Rif (she)> thats the one i know which is why im asking bc quarterstaff sometimes breaks the box and shatters potions etc 20:38 -!- werekitten is now known as misha 20:38 yeah, when forcing with blunt/bashing objects you risk destorying the box and any of its contents 20:38 edged weapons won't break contents but may break the weapon 20:38 ^ 20:38 (of course, you want to make sure the weapon is noncursed first) 20:39 <@Rif (she)> i am aware of this but appreciate it 20:39 it's a "good" way to break a cursed junk dagger that said 20:39 <@Rif (she)> ah 20:39 <@Rif (she)> are cursed more likely to break? bc ive lost very few daggers to that method 20:39 iunno 20:40 I just know it's a thing you can do to get rid of one 20:40 i think the only difference is between normal and artifact weapons 20:41 <@Rif (she)> ah 20:41 Yeah, artiweapons are 99% unbreakable 20:41 ooh, apparently enchantment AND erosion will affect it.. but cursed ones will NOT break 20:41 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Force#Weapon_breakage 20:41 Aw piss 20:41 Outbrained 20:41 -!- misha is now known as werekitten 20:42 all new to me! 20:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:42 <@Rif (she)> okay that makes more sense tbh 20:42 <@Rif (she)> bc its a curse 20:43 unfortunately yes 20:43 swore I broke something cursed that way once, guess I remembered wrong 20:44 <@Rif (she)> what you broke........was your memory 20:44 <@Rif (she)> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh offline curse 20:45 oh noo 20:46 i thought so too 20:48 <@Rif (she)> gonna idle for a sec to do some eatins 20:50 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 862 points, T:2819, killed by an uninjured giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:50 hmm just heard what I thought were fireworks outside and then police came to the door and asked me about whether I saw a shooting 20:50 qt: Message from aoei at 2021-03-31 17:20 EDT: to !tell aoei to update behold_less 20:51 but aoei was pinged by that 20:52 <@Rif (she)> qt when i lived in city heights san diego i quickly learned that 'fireworks' sound means hit the floor 20:54 <@Rif (she)> not just bc rico kills but also the last thing we needed was to witness a shooting 20:55 aosdict: aoei with the big brain moves 20:55 My grandmother used to tell me to keep away from the windows for a similar reason 20:59 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 21:01 <@Rif (she)> yeah i did not want to get between cartels and feds 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5338 points, T:2548, killed by a mumak 21:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Sir Garland, on T:21247 21:11 aaaaa 21:11 tinning kit 21:11 Ice boxes are always like 21:11 ultraheavy 21:11 you can take out the corpses you want, though, like the lichen and newts 21:13 <@Rif (she)> yeah figured i should finish looting the other shit but i guess it doesnt really matter with lichen and newtsw 21:13 yeah, you could just buy them and eat the newts right there 21:13 also wew that ammy is expensive 21:15 <@Rif (she)> i have $7 21:15 <@Rif (she)> also p sure that amulet is cursed 21:15 <@Rif (she)> newts dont go bad right just to be sure 21:16 <@Rif (she)> man this cat is just sick of my shit 21:17 <@Shadow_Rider> Wait I thought newts can go bad 21:17 <@Rif (she)> seems to happen oddlyq uickly in fact 21:17 everything goes bad except lizard and lichen 21:17 <@Rif (she)> feck 21:18 <@Rif (she)> newts are a type of lizard i thought 21:18 lol 21:18 yeah, that's our b 21:18 it means the monster lizard 21:18 use the tinning kit! 21:19 tools like those are generally noncursed outside of traps/bones 21:19 <@Rif (she)> oh right ty 21:19 I love tinning kits 21:19 <@Rif (she)> but also, havent looted it yet 21:20 ? 21:20 <@Shadow_Rider> I always forget to use tinning kits 21:20 <@Shadow_Rider> I’d rather risk being oversatiated than having to take it out of the bag 21:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:21 <@Rif (she)> my problem is just not owning one rn 21:21 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:21 !query Beholder 21:21 <@Rif (she)> cat seems sick of looting 21:21 ALSO 21:21 Gotta raise the apport back up 21:22 ALSO tinning corpses you haven't paid for incurs a "debt" 21:22 <@Rif (she)> hopefully theres tripe somewhere or i get stone to flesh 21:23 <@Rif (she)> you should be able to throw a dead rodent to a cat 21:23 <@Rif (she)> irl they would go big time nuts for that 21:23 heh 21:24 YANI: Sewer rat and giant rat corpses function as treats for the purpose of throwing them to domestic cats. 21:25 ^make it formal 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:2582 21:26 you can throw a dead rat to a cat to tame it though 21:26 it already works 21:27 Whahuh? 21:27 you don't need to throw a 'treat' to a domestic animal when taming them, anything they'll eat will work 21:27 you can even throw a horse corpse or something 21:27 I've thrown corpses at peacefuls without them being tamed iirc 21:28 <@Rif (she)> oh right ty for fixing to a y**i 21:28 may be thinking of the "miss" dialogue for already tame mons 21:28 lemme wiztest 21:28 <@Rif (she)> yeah im saying to raise apport qt 21:28 <@Rif (she)> like picture how a cat who lives in your house would react if you tossed a dead rat at their face 21:28 works for the rat 21:29 <@Rif (she)> i am indeed thinking of the miss dialogue for already tame mons 21:29 <{Demo}4> positively 21:29 <@Rif (she)> remember the whole convo came up bc my cat needs more apport 21:29 YANI: Sewer rat and giant rat corpses function as treats for the purpose of throwing them to already-tame domestic cats. 21:29 ^better? 21:29 <@Rif (she)> works for me 21:29 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:29 <@Rif (she)> idk as much about dogs irl 21:29 <{Demo}4> some dogs r really dumb 21:30 <@Rif (she)> i do know that irl throwing food at tame rats works and is also very funny 21:30 <@Rif (she)> well also some dogs were bred to catch rats and some werent, cats 100% exist to scare off rodents 21:30 <{Demo}4> you could raise their apport by throwing them ANYTHING 21:30 Huh, so it DOES work for meaty corpses 21:30 <@Rif (she)> like irl if you threw a wet noodle at a rat's face the dude would be like oh SHIT you bought me a snake 21:30 * Umbire eyes {Demo}4 21:31 <@Rif (she)> umb i think demo means irl 21:31 I know 21:31 * Umbire smells another new idea in the distance. 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:67431 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3622 21:33 <@Rif (she)> knew i had id 21:33 qt: thanks for the enlightening 21:34 ooh you got a bunch of 'em 21:34 rocks are always just rocks btw lol 21:34 <@Rif (she)> heyyyyyyyyyy and an opal now i can buy stuff 21:34 easy-to-obtain sling ammo 21:34 ah nice! 21:34 shame it's not a jeweler, you could get full price 21:34 <@Rif (she)> yeah i figured but i just didnt look close after i forgot to sell the sling and rocks 21:35 yeah you can sell 'em both if you're not usin' em 21:35 <@Rif (she)> ive got enough on my hands training dagger 21:36 400 zm is p. good 21:37 ahhhhhh I get it now, xnet just calls the basic armor "light armor" 21:37 <@Rif (she)> plastic scale mail is better than +0 wooden splint yeah? 21:37 Potentially...? 21:37 probably not though 21:37 <@Rif (she)> oh ok 21:37 wouldn't hurt to check 21:37 but wooden splint mail gave you 4 AC right? 21:38 my b, 5 21:38 <@Rif (she)> wow that 1333 is strangulation 21:38 <@riker> !who 21:38 @riker: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh370] ezion [nh370] tsingi [nh370] dgoddard [gh] Umbire [xnh] CntFai [xnh] qt [xnh] DracoMorbis [slshm] | [hdf-eu] Feya [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 21:38 it's the mithril that makes it expensive 21:38 <@riker> ah xnh nice 21:38 <@Rif (she)> yeah 21:38 problem is lifesaving alone eats most of your opal money 21:39 <@Rif (she)> lbh i need it lol 21:39 right? 21:39 <@Rif (she)> tasty as that gain level looks, i can come get it later 21:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] DracoMorbis (Und Dop Fem Neu), 331 points, T:530, killed by a gecko 21:39 yeah, ideally 21:39 <@Rif (she)> when it will probably be less deadly to be a higher level anyway 21:40 <@Rif (she)> plastic scale was worse by a ton like 4 at least 21:41 crud! 21:41 <@Rif (she)> will extra heal help at this point? i can just pray 21:41 time to find out 21:41 <@Rif (she)> nice 21:41 yay! 21:41 <@Rif (she)> guess thats why they call it that 21:41 I don't think it cures food illness in vanilla 21:41 lemme see 21:42 aw piss 21:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:57759 21:42 it's milky in my wiztest game 21:43 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 21:43 even worse! 21:43 giant corpse only gave me the sick damage 21:44 just eat the lichen lol 21:44 food prices get jacked up based on your hunger 21:44 <@Rif (she)> ahhhhh right i forgot 21:47 lol 21:47 Normal fog clouds are harmless 21:47 free dagger training even 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:5606 21:48 <@Rif (she)> ah heck 21:48 well not "harmless" 21:48 but more "hard-pressed to do any real damage" 21:48 tinning corpses preserves them for later 21:48 though 1/7 of your tins will be created "rotten" 21:49 unless blessed (then none) or cursed (in which case always) 21:49 tinning corpses preserves all the good bits 21:50 oh, haste self is stackable and adds to the turns of speed you have 21:50 <{Demo}4> infinitely stackable 21:50 D: 21:51 <@Rif (she)> rip to that blade 21:51 you have rations lol 21:51 can also buy and tin the newt after 21:51 <@Rif (she)> bro i was just getting my staff 21:52 I saw the hunger thing, my b 21:52 <@Rif (she)> no worries i appreciate ur input 21:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given their Quest, on T:26017 21:53 <@Rif (she)> by thew ay another reason to name cats ridiculous things like Federal Case is you can shorten it to something normal, in this instance Casey. irl knew a couple who named their cat Tiger Manual and then everyone called him tigerman 21:54 looool 21:54 true 21:54 <@Rif (she)> tiger manual fuckin ruled 21:54 <{Demo}4> listening to tiger jaws 21:55 goddamned bats 21:55 <@Rif (she)> oh so when tinning goes bad, is it poison to reflect the way RL tinning/jarring can introduce botulinum toxin, or foodpois bc the food just went bad 21:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 276380 points, T:26313, killed by an invisible quinon, while fainted from lack of food 21:55 <@Rif (she)> bc if its just regular poison im orc so its all gravy 21:55 <@Rif (she)> so's to speak 21:56 POG 21:56 I found polymorph in my game 21:56 Oh uh 21:56 <@Rif (she)> oh nice 21:56 no 21:56 tins don't go bad 21:56 1/7 of them just get created rotten if you're using a regular tinning kit 21:57 rotten tin contents make you nauseous 21:57 the rest are create as homemade and give that much nutrition for that type 21:57 [hdf-us] [gh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7264 points, T:5659, killed by a dwarvish lord 21:57 iunno if aosdict changed tins up any so 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:5955 21:58 RNG tins can have a variety of prep methods, I think pureed gives the most nutrition of them 21:58 <@Rif (she)> okay so its not foodpois 21:59 yeah it's just a bit of nausea 21:59 as if you ate tripe while not-an-orc 21:59 <@Rif (she)> ah 22:00 cure sickness is my other book 22:00 need to remember to explore how to tweak that ug 22:00 uh* 22:01 "cur = red" bit if possible 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:6546 22:03 vault location o: 22:05 OH! 22:05 if that scimitar's uncursed I'd buy it back 22:05 aosdict made it so there's racial weapons/spells that characters can always get skill levels in 22:05 <@Rif (she)> if you say so 22:06 "Orcs can always reach Skilled in scimitar." 22:06 I knows so 22:06 you don't have to train it immediately but it's a useful backup 22:06 <@Rif (she)> ah ok 22:06 <@Rif (she)> well ill find anohter one 22:06 <@Rif (she)> i have 2 wpn 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:7024 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67953 22:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4394 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67957 22:08 Wizards can't two weapon 22:08 ...can they? 22:08 nice, killed it with the book 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:67976 22:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4554 22:09 <@Rif (she)> alt isnt two weaponing 22:10 <@Rif (she)> and i was wielding the dagger 22:10 Wizards can't two weapon, p. sure 22:10 <@Rif (she)> yes they extremely cannot and nobody claimed tehy could 22:10 wait sorry 22:10 you meant to try X 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:68042 22:10 not alt+x 22:10 That's the twoweapon key 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:68046 22:10 <@Rif (she)> .......i literally clicked the fucking x key 22:10 wait 22:11 <@Rif (she)> i don tknow why you made up this twoweapon stuff 22:11 we are miscommunicating 22:11 <@Rif (she)> ya lol 22:11 shift+x enables twoweapon 22:11 x switches between primary and secondary weapon 22:11 you were trying to switch between wielded and offhand right? 22:11 idk what alt+x does 22:12 FIQ: yeh but I don't think she was trying to do that first thing 22:12 <@Rif (she)> alt x gives you char info 22:12 <@Rif (she)> i was not fucking trying i did the thing by pressing the correct key and this convo is insane 22:12 that's ctrl+x 22:12 alt+x does nothing 22:13 Can confirm, x and alt+x do the same thing for me wrt swapping weapons 22:13 dunno if that's a rcfile thing I config'd without knowing or what 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kuge, on T:68109 22:14 oh right, loadstones don't exist in xnh 22:14 <@Rif (she)> oh i did not know that 22:14 so no kick-testing necessary 22:14 <@Rif (she)> gotcha ty 22:14 now you know! 22:15 the new gray stone introduced is... well we'll cross that bridge when we get there 22:15 yey lockpick 22:16 <@Rif (she)> spoilers! spoilers! 22:16 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 787 points, T:1918, killed by a piranha 22:16 <@Rif (she)> whats the new gray stone 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Shogun, on T:68182 22:16 thiefstone 22:16 <@Rif (she)> ok yeah i forgot but ive been struck by a few of those 22:16 you grab it and it takes something from your inventory and warps it and the item(s) to a location on the same floor 22:17 usually in whatever boxes are available 22:17 if you discover one you can use it for easy stashing 22:18 also as advance notice, zombie corpses can be safely tinned 22:18 as I mentioned before tinning preserves the good bits 22:18 I THINK it prevents the meat zombifying you in Evil, have yet to check though 22:19 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:19 <@Rif (she)> hmmm 22:19 <@Rif (she)> i actually already passed up an opportunity to tin a zombie but good 2 know 22:20 yeah just as an FYI 22:20 oh wew 22:20 I hate that force bolts immediately affect the inventory of a hostile ONLY if it kills them 22:21 <@Rif (she)> rip 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:68225 22:21 if the nausea isn't cured you just vomit and lose nutrition 22:22 even if the tin is "rotten" in that sense you still get intrinsics and junk from it 22:22 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 22:22 aw fuck off! 22:23 I would've killed for a gold long sword in one of my lawful runs 22:23 am jelly :c 22:23 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:24 <@Rif (she)> F 22:24 <@Rif (she)> is cursed if helps 22:24 <@Rif (she)> also you get conf and stun a bit 22:24 yeah 22:25 any bags yet? 22:25 that's from the dorf's diggin' 22:25 <@Rif (she)> ye i know 22:25 <@Rif (she)> no bag 22:26 Has anyone made a YNI of like 22:26 magic missile having a targetable form a la cold/fireball? 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:68374 22:27 <@Rif (she)> vice versa exists 22:28 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:28 Does it? 22:28 Wait I think I know what you meant 22:29 <@Rif (she)> it very much does 22:29 yeah, wanted the same for magic missle 22:29 missile* 22:29 <@Rif (she)> the inverse anyway 22:29 <@Rif (she)> i meant what i said 22:30 <@Rif (she)> if you use those spells at low level you just get to pick a direction like MM 22:30 <@Rif (she)> idk why MM doesn't evolve like the othres 22:30 ye 22:30 <@Rif (she)> maybe theres like an unwritten law in D&Dlikes that MM is not AOE 22:31 ig? 22:31 then again there's "shower of missiles" melee-range spells and such 22:31 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 22:31 <@Rif (she)> in D&D? 22:31 no but in nethack 22:32 I think Yeenoghu in particular has it 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] slarty (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1038 points, T:5103, killed by an uninjured kitten, while dragging an iron ball 22:32 <@Rif (she)> oofs 22:32 <@Rif (she)> punished slarty 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:68465 22:33 <@Rif (she)> gonna idle again for irl tins of gnome meat 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Cha), 2094230 points, T:68465, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1616953014.nh.html 22:34 geeg 22:34 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 22:34 also ID'd lightning wand in my game, sick 22:37 <@Rif (she)> the best weather event you can smuggle into a dungeon 22:48 <@Joanna> sup sup 22:48 gewten morgen 22:49 gg oh6 22:49 <@Rif (she)> yo 22:49 <@Rif (she)> i gave up and went back to discord 22:49 thanks aoei! 22:50 <@riker> wb to the cool side 😎 22:51 lol. hey Rif 22:51 <@Rif (she)> ty idk why i forgot that irc is old and difficult like a command line 22:51 hi Joanna <3 22:51 <@Rif (she)> howzit j 22:51 its ok i just woke up way too early lol 22:51 hey Umby 22:51 <@Rif (she)> ah opposite problem over here's 22:51 also im fkn cold 22:52 <@Rif (she)> im a freak i always liked the cold as a kid, my mom accurately predicted like 15 years ago that i'd eventually move back east 22:52 it was super warm during the day but sleeping with the window open -> cold cold gurl wakin up at 4:30 22:52 <@Rif (she)> i was like no why would you want seasons 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] slarty (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 210 points, T:851, killed by an uninjured succubus 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a stone golem, on T:12039 22:52 lol 22:52 I hate cold lol 22:52 <@Rif (she)> but here i am 22:52 t. winter baby 22:52 i prefer cold to hot 22:52 to be hoenst 22:53 <@Rif (she)> istg if they have a 70 degree day in san diego the front page story is that the city was hit with a chill 22:53 right? 22:53 <@Joanna> owo hey Rif guess who 22:53 <@Rif (she)> you and aoei split into two identities to trick me 22:53 <@Rif (she)> is not so easy 22:54 yay strength boost 22:54 <@Joanna> damn, she knows our secret, aoei 22:55 what are we gonna do Joanna D: 22:55 <@Rif (she)> muahahaah 22:56 <@Joanna> !tea 22:56 * Beholder passes @Joanna a cup of darjeeling tea, decanted by Announcy at 210 Kelvin. 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12881 22:58 <@Rif (she)> that's the temperature of 4 north dakotas stacked on top of each other 22:59 -!- Xaleth has joined #hardfought 23:00 <@Joanna> jeez, that cold huh 23:00 <@Joanna> remind me not to visit north dakota, heck 23:01 <@Rif (she)> well. not without a wand of fireball 23:02 remind me to set up my local NH install to actually play a squeak sound when I step on a board 23:03 <@Rif (she)> i say go full spongebob and have it be a quack noise 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:39372 23:04 ...damnit that's good 23:05 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 23:05 @Rif (she) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATrBIxS0KMs 23:06 actually 23:06 https://youtu.be/ATrBIxS0KMs?t=175 23:06 the honk sound is what I think of first 23:06 and what I'd been thinking of using 23:07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF_rqx6O1T4 tangentially related: incredibly sick theme 23:09 <@Rif (she)> is not bad im thinking the full on HONK that they used in that cartoon to shock you out of conscious thought when something funny happens 23:09 tee hee i played an april fools joke on dictaos lets see if he falls for it 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:15224 23:12 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 23:12 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (verne.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 23:12 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 23:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Arc Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4262 23:18 huh, didn't know it livelogged XL 6 23:19 livelogging has some configurable options 23:19 so depending how its set up on the server it'll livelog all kinds of pointless shit and spam the chan lol 23:19 <@Rif (she)> yea it did for me a lil bit ago too 23:21 like it'll even livelog your first visit to a shop if you enable some of the more spammy options 23:22 [hdf-us] [gh] slarty (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:20, killed by a sewer rat 23:23 ic 23:23 Level livelogging makes sense 23:23 tho 23:24 <@Rif (she)> can individual users change what's reported or just the server 23:24 server controls what type of things get livelogged 23:25 but users can do !setmintc x 23:25 ooooooooooo 23:25 which blocks all livelogging of anything where turns < x 23:25 found a broad pick 23:25 need to drop some extra weight though 23:25 [hdf-us] [gh] slarty (Pri Hum Fem Law), 11 points, T:271, killed by a dwarf 23:28 Umbire: pog 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:23287 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:23288 23:31 [hdf-us] [gh] slarty (Wiz Kob Mal Cha), 141 points, T:380, killed by a dwarf 23:31 <@Umby> rood 23:31 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/827022420090159104/unknown.png 23:32 hahaha 23:32 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:17150 23:34 MAN WHAT THE FUCK 23:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 2059 points, T:4383, zapped herself with a wand 23:34 goddamn backfire 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3278 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:23553 23:36 !rng arc gal | priestess | rogue | valk | let game choose 23:36 Umbire: rogue 23:37 yay orcgal 23:39 one of my NH-specific idiosyncrasies is naming my rogue's daggers after playing card-type things 23:39 -!- Kougyoku has joined #hardfought 23:39 o/ 23:40 evening to you too unbire :) 23:40 hay Kougyoku 23:41 and puppy pulped 23:41 Hey aoei, any luck on your skelly runs? 23:41 off to a great start so far :^) 23:41 <@Rif (she)> i dont see !setmintc in bot commands do u do it in here 23:41 <@Rif (she)> !setmintc 23:42 <@Rif (she)> app not 23:42 !setmintc help 23:42 Kougyoku: not yet lol 23:42 !help 23:42 Umbire: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 23:42 [hdf-us] [gh] slarty (Pri Hum Fem Law), 92 points, T:745, killed by a kobold wererat 23:42 i think it only works IRC side 23:42 you'll get there im sure! silly skelly can't dodge stella forever 23:42 !setmintc 1 23:42 Umbire: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for umbire set to 1 23:42 and it'll use whatever nick you're using 23:42 !setmintc 0 23:42 Umbire: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for umbire set to 0 23:42 To demonstrate 23:42 Umbire: !setmintc without arg will remove the mintc entirely 23:42 !setmintc 23:42 Umbire: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for umbire removed. 23:43 Neat 23:43 lotta books and rings this run 23:43 altar pls 23:44 ah, i didn't know that was a thing. >checks it out< mmm 1 should be like, default for #quit 23:44 <@Rif (she)> ahhhhh 23:44 <@Rif (she)> now i learn irc has powers 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4479 23:46 ez money 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:23813 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4565 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gauntlets of power", on T:17917 23:48 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:18051 23:49 hi, need some advice on iron bars - I'm playing evilhack and I'm trying to melt the iron bars at castle.  I tried wielding a potion of acid and using F-direction to hit the bars - the acid is gone, but the bars are still there.  What am I doing wrong? 23:49 Might be that those aren't meltable, not sure 23:49 [hdf-us] [gh] slarty (Rog Kob Fem Cha), 130 points, T:800, killed by a black pudding 23:49 K2: You happen to know? 23:50 You probably can't. 23:50 that's evil 23:50 IIRC that is the case for the bars on vanilla Medusa's lair too. 23:51 lost half my HP but worth it for early sleep res 23:51 oh, didn't know that - ty! 23:51 yeah, might be he borrowed those in building Evil's castle :B 23:51 if iron bars are part of a wall thats non-diggable, the bars cant be destroyed 23:52 There we go, right from the u's mouth 23:53 man I am NOT used to these early door traps 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:19206 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:19295