00:00 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1553 points, T:2365, killed by a dingo 00:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:33876 00:09 [hdf-us] [slex] DracoMorbis (Und Dop Fem Neu), 36208 points, T:6360, killed by a shotgun shell 00:18 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 15904 points, T:5906, [0:45:05], poisoned by a giant spider 00:20 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4919 points, T:2465, killed by an ettin zombie 00:31 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 870 points, T:1894, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 00:34 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Gla Inc Fem Neu), 38760 points, T:10298, killed by an ettin mummy 00:41 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:42 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:42 [hdf-us] [slex] DracoMorbis (Val Dop Fem Law), 926 points, T:1280, killed by a monster (car-driving superthief) 00:42 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 918 points, T:2913, killed by a boiling potion 00:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4675 00:55 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:56 Roho : I am starting a polypile for 100+ potion/scroll 01:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:6744 01:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:7068 01:05 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Gla Inc Fem Neu), 42742 points, T:10666, killed by a fire ant, in explore mode 01:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7660 01:10 !tell luxor Did you get msgs on Beholder from me? 01:10 luxor shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Roho. 01:11 !tell luxor what is meant by pirate and owe credit from store? 01:11 luxor shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Roho. 01:12 Hi Roho, When you drop a container with cash, or with product the store owner can not afford, then the store shopkeeper will owe you credit. you can click $ to see how much 01:12 luxor: Message from Roho at 2021-03-30 01:10 EDT: Did you get msgs on Beholder from me? 01:12 luxor: Message from Roho at 2021-03-30 01:11 EDT: what is meant by pirate and owe credit from store? 01:18 -!- Kougyoku has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 526 points, T:2847, killed by an uninjured killer bee 01:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 841949 points, T:35727, poisoned by a swamp fern 01:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 367 points, T:1208, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 37 points, T:256, killed by an uninjured water demon 01:46 -!- Roho has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:34634 02:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] CurlyBrace (Bin Inc Fem Non) wished for "Uncursed greased fixed magic marker", on T:11969 02:02 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Val Inc Fem Neu), 63 points, T:410, killed by a goblin 02:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] CurlyBrace (Bin Inc Fem Non) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:11993 02:04 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Val Inc Fem Neu), 282 points, T:421, killed by a falling rock 02:05 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 02:13 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Val Inc Fem Neu), 2802 points, T:1825, killed by a small mimic 02:23 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:27 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 02:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non), 46476 points, T:11628, killed by a boulder 02:29 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:32683 02:29 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32689 02:31 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Mon Inc Fem Neu), 7155 points, T:2131, killed by a red dragon 02:45 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Mon Inc Fem Neu), 3185 points, T:1592, killed by a goat 02:46 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 02:54 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:36849 02:59 very weird - I have a uncursed rusty rustproof +0 pair of GoP (on evil) 02:59 was rusty, but rustproofing it didn't remove the rust - do I need to dip in forge or is this a bug? 03:00 at least in vanilla, it depends how you rustproofed 03:00 cursed confused destroy armour fooproofs without fixing prior damage 03:01 whereas confused enchant armour repairs damage and fooproofs 03:02 ahhh - my fault then - I did "cursed confused destroy armour" - thx! 03:02 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:02 np 03:03 btw, is it worth removing the rust in evilhack if it's rustproofed? I expect it to be indestructible if rustproofed, even if rusty. Am I off? 03:04 honestly uh 03:04 i would guess it's fine but i dont play evilhack so 03:05 ic - I tried dipping in a forge to remove rust earlier, but didn't seem to do anything. I wonder if it's using the RNG for this... 03:09 ah - it >does< consult the RNG - removed rust after 6 tries for me 03:10 <@luxidream> evil has spork destroy armor 03:10 <@luxidream> which removes rustproofing, then erodes armor until it is destroyed 03:11 oh... ...thx for tip - that >is< evil - I wonder if dragonhide is subject to the same damage 03:12 the spell can still decay dragonhide I think 03:12 amateurhour: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-03-29 17:46 EDT: actually Sheol is only 25 levels. you want it to be 75 in length? :P that would be too much of a slog 03:12 lol 03:14 fair enough 03:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:8610 03:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- luxor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:47 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:48 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 03:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 03:48 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:11795 03:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3344 03:58 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:34800 04:00 damn - that Medusa had a WoD 8^P 04:01 nice! 04:02 luckily, I played chicken - hit her with MM from afar - got stoned by her bite b4 (evilhack is evil) 04:09 <@Joanna> Oof 04:11 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 04:13 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 04:13 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (rothfuss.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 04:13 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 04:14 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 04:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Cerberus, on T:15384 04:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4818 04:20 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) had a magical darkwood staff entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:35703 04:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4960 04:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:4992 04:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Kevkat's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:5282 04:29 -!- eraserhead97 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6510 04:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 39617 points, T:20545, killed by an uninjured priestess of Poseidon, while paralyzed by a monster 04:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:7157 05:01 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1545 points, T:2584, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping 05:01 amateurhour: Pretty certain that dragonhide can be destroyed as well, remember, even *dragonbane* was destroyed at one point. ;) 05:04 Dragonbane isn't even hard to destroy. Just toss it in a cursed BoH and rifle through the bag a few times. 05:05 If you want armor that's really hard to destroy, you have to make it out of, like, amulets of Yendor, or something. 05:05 until recently you could destroy it by punching black dragons then saving/reloading :^) 05:06 "My armor is indestructible! What? You say it looks like paper armor? Well, yes, that's because I made it out of pages from The Book of the Dead!" 05:07 jonadab: Even mithril breaks. 05:07 Which reminds me - which is tougher? Mithril, or dragonhide? 05:08 Mithril would be sturdier for something you don't really want to bend that much, like a sword. Dragonhide would be more supple so probably better for armor. 05:08 Neither is heavy enough to make a good war hammer. 05:12 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Mon Inc Fem Neu), 155939 points, T:14013, burned by a fireball 05:14 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:7995 05:16 !lastgame Abdlabl 05:16 amateurhour: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Abdlabl/slashthem/dumplog/1617086760.slth.txt 05:16 ah Grund's fortress 05:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 12970 points, T:4943, killed by a giant cockroach 05:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "Blessed greased fixed +2 Gray dragon scale mail", on T:8243 05:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed greased bag of holding", on T:8253 05:27 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Mon Inc Fem Neu), 6315 points, T:1636, killed by an astral deva of Shan Lai Ching 05:30 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Mon Inc Fem Neu), 596 points, T:641, killed by a bolt of fire 05:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:9229 05:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:9349 05:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 788 points, T:726, killed by a wand 05:39 Not having a great run today! 05:42 surprised at your patience haha, I slide right into demotivation valley dying often in the early game 05:42 you must be more much zen than I am 05:43 Haha. :) If only you knew. :) 05:43 [hdf-au] [nh343] PeachMuffin (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3937 points, T:3628, killed by a water moccasin 05:43 But seriously I should be doing better at evil given how much I play! 05:44 it's hard 05:45 Definitely. And I keep making too many mistakes. 05:45 Too many frequently being: One mistake. 05:47 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2265 points, T:2248, killed by a soldier ant 05:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed twiggets' ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:10155 05:51 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:55 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:55 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 05:55 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 05:56 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 734 points, T:1353, killed by a fox 05:56 [hdf-us] [slth] Abdlabl (Mon Inc Fem Neu), 18016 points, T:3433, killed by a fire ant, while praying unsuccessfully 05:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1456 points, T:2235, killed by a wounded soldier ant 06:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 1663 points, T:2758, killed by an Aleax of Shan Lai Ching 06:00 Well, that was... Insane. 06:01 Struggled to find armour I could wear. And for various reasons, kept getting sick from zombies. No helm, you see. So #pray, 600-turns later, sick again, #pray. 600-turns later, sick again, #pray. *10* turns later, sick again... But there's an ALTAR! 06:01 Managed to convert it and then offer it in time and get to a spot where it's safe to pray... 06:01 But there was the small matter of the previous God being angry I had converted the altar. :( 06:03 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 410 points, T:1009, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 06:07 elves are kind of difficult anyway 06:12 Indeed. 06:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 553 points, T:1203, killed by a wounded gnome 06:17 And they dont really have huge advantages anyway. 06:21 their only advantage is that its easier/faster to get dirge on an elf knight then the human. 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 frost brand", on T:12517 06:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 292 points, T:2556, killed by a moderately wounded black pudding 06:24 And that doesn't happen to elf monks. 06:26 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 06:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a cloth studded armor entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:917 06:28 Uh oh... Minetown is a bones. 06:28 Fell down a trapdoor, and now I think this is _another_ bones. 06:28 Yep - eraserhead. 06:28 minetown was bouquet. 06:29 Both Sam-Gia-Fem-Law. 06:31 Hmm... undead turning doesn't do anything for zombies? 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 700 points, T:1193, killed by a wounded rothe 06:33 -!- lxlldr has quit [Quit: Quit] 06:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Neu) destroyed eraserhead97 the giant zombie, and former Kunoichi, on T:2122 06:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:4256 06:39 Hmm. Stranded, on this level. No up or down. 06:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 3602 points, T:4854, killed by withering away, while praying 06:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 5501 points, T:3073, killed by a watchman 06:46 Opened a door next to a watchman... It was trapped... 06:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 634 points, T:1482, killed by a gas cloud 06:56 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 07:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:2462 07:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2012 points, T:2602, quit 07:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) murdered her faithful earth elemental, on T:67108 07:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 153 points, T:437, killed by a wounded small mimic 07:14 arahael it gets trapped as soon as you are warned not to unlock it 07:15 ^ vanilla behavior 07:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 1061 points, T:3371, killed by a soldier ant 07:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 2136 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:67411 07:23 <@Joanna> Yo Pinkbeast I am now published in one of the big fancy glamour journals 07:23 <@Joanna> Or will be later today or something 07:24 <@Joanna> ./brag 07:31 Bravo (but note my IRC client doesn't automatically poke me if someone says my name) 07:31 <@Joanna> I think you told me this before and I forgot 07:31 <@Joanna> It's possible I will forget again 07:31 <@Joanna> But w/e I just wanted to brag anyway lol 07:32 <@Joanna> Guess which journal 07:32 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glamour_(magazine) 07:32 :) 07:32 <@Joanna> Rofl 07:32 -!- yanah has joined #hardfought 07:32 <@Joanna> How did u kno :b 07:33 which is it really? 07:33 <@Joanna> Science 07:33 nice 07:33 <@Joanna> One of like 100 authors but still 07:34 <@Joanna> Looks cool on teh resumé 07:35 sweet 07:37 mobileuser: I wasn't warned. But it was a bones level... 07:38 ah! door could have trapped by the previous player then 07:39 *have been 07:40 Right. 07:45 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:50 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:51 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1478 points, T:2670, killed by a wand 08:04 fuck, i didnt really think this through. i was drinking from a fountain on a lawful valk giant and i got a wish and got myself a tsurugi of venom 08:04 !who 08:04 K2: [hdf-us] SrinivasSamJespe [slshm] YaWiz [slshm] post163 [evil] Abdlabl [slth] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:04 hmm 08:06 !who 08:06 K2: [hdf-us] SrinivasSamJespe [slshm] YaWiz [slshm] post163 [evil] Abdlabl [slth] | [hdf-eu] Feya [dnh] microlance [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:06 yay 08:08 xNetHack updated (all servers) 08:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Orc Fem Non) was given their Quest, on T:31040 08:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an ice vortex, on T:3714 08:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Gia Fem Law), 1443 points, T:3888, killed by a giant ant 08:12 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 08:13 -!- rougelike has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 173 points, T:984, killed by a balrog 08:15 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:30433 08:17 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 08:45 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 449 points, T:2778, killed by a dart 08:48 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:49 [hdf-us] [slex] DracoMorbis (Dia Dop Fem Law), 2809 points, T:2922, quit 09:06 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1901 points, T:3034, killed by a hill orc 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:42509 09:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5319 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 418 points, T:1094, killed by a wounded wererat 09:49 <@iatrocrat> cleaver is so good 09:49 <@iatrocrat> but so dangerous 09:49 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:51 -!- Umbire has left #hardfought 09:52 yea u gotta be careful with that bad boi 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 9593 points, T:6202, killed by a tapered wooden stake 09:54 -!- hackedhead has joined #hardfought 10:02 <@princessSpicycat> aosdict , you seem to be having the least trouble keeping up with vanilla of all the fork authors. do you think you'd be willing to write out merge/rebase strategy tips sometime? 10:03 i have a feeling the others just don't care as much as he does honestly xD 10:03 but it might be cool to have such a guide 10:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Bar Vam Fem Cha) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:8700 10:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47199 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:47200 10:09 is there any way to get a shopkeeper that's angered to chill? 10:12 pay them off 10:12 is this vanilla or some other game 10:13 <{Demo}> taming 10:17 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 10:26 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 10:32 <@princessSpicycat> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Bribe#Bribing_shopkeepers 10:33 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 965 points, T:2027, killed by a mind flayer 10:37 [hdf-us] [sp] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4457 10:44 its way more expensive than bribing soldiers iirc 10:44 but then, you probably fucked up somewhere to anger the shk 10:44 so..' 10:50 you can bribe shopkeepers in some other way than paying for what you stole? I didn't know that, whenever I accidentally attack a shopkeeper I always steal a single spoon or something then pay the 2zm for it and they calm down 10:51 qt: i could be wrong but iirc once you've left the store and the kops are summoned + angry shk, the bribe amount is always the same 10:52 but i dont remmeber if the previous debt is just erased or you have to pay for it and *then* some 10:52 mb i should check that wiki page :D 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 7056 points, T:6539, killed by a death ray 10:53 You attacked the shopkeeper or damaged the shop walls or doors. You can pay 1000 zorkmids for a 2⁄3 chance of pacifying the shopkeeper. 10:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 206 points, T:934, killed by wounded Mr. Culdaff; the shopkeeper 10:53 hmm, that sounds separate to debt from theft 10:54 I just tested it in wizmode and when you steal something after attacking them, they are pacified by being compensated only for the stolen item 10:55 :o 10:55 I kicked a shopkeeper and then stole an egg and only had to pay 12 zm to calm them 10:55 that's a neat hack 10:55 compensate them with a wand of death 10:55 nice one qt 10:55 I didn't even know you could calm them without stealing something 10:55 well this way seems cheaper anyway 10:55 haha 10:55 it also works with the minetown watch iirc 10:55 if you get them mad, then steal from a shop and pay off the shopkeeper, they become peaceful again 10:56 not 100% sure but I think I have done that before 10:56 sick 10:56 kinda busted but 10:56 xD 10:56 sounds like a bug 10:56 yeah it is kind of silly now that I think about it 10:57 <{Demo}> its not a bug shks r just not the sharpest tool in the shop 10:57 doesn't workforme on 3.7 10:58 <{Demo}> their tin opener is 10:58 <{Demo}> oi lets just say their skeleton key is sharper than they are 10:58 bhaak which doesn't work? calming down the watch? or calming the shopkeeper? 10:59 calming down the shopkeeper by buying an item 10:59 not buying an item, stealing the item and then paying for it after it's stolen 10:59 they become mad about the theft, and then you can pay them off to calm them down 11:00 sounds like reason for anger gets overwritten 11:00 and the original aggro reason no longer matters 11:00 definitely sounds like a bug 11:00 yeah it's probably something like that 11:00 ah, yes 11:01 angering them and then stealing something does work 11:01 <{Demo}> haha theif 11:01 well i better exploit that before bhaak pushes the fix 11:01 well done qt you NARC 11:01 yes it seems I shouldn't have mentioned this lol 11:02 :P 11:02 it has gotten me out of some tight scrapes before 11:02 at least if it's a thing in 3.6.6 as well (sounds that way) it will remain exploitable on nao for a long, long time 11:03 that supposes that it's an easy fix 11:03 bhaak: or that you're just a god damn smart genius 11:03 and will have no issues coming up with a clever solution 11:03 :^) 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3124 points, T:4215, poisoned by a water moccasin 11:04 coming up with a solution is not a problem. everything is solvable 11:04 see! 11:04 now get to work 11:04 but the work involved to solve it might be too much 11:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Cohen (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 435 points, T:1087, killed by a wounded homunculus, while sleeping 11:04 that's quitter talk 11:04 it's not that easy to exploit tbh because you have to get past the shopkeeper to get back into their shop, then get past them again to get out with an item 11:04 are you a quitter, bhaak? :( 11:04 while they are already mad at you 11:05 and all the kops as well 11:05 qt: lol yea, this did also cross my mind 11:05 aoei: that's "not even beginning talk" 11:05 bhaak: rofl, fair point 11:05 ok ok i gotta go get to some work myself 11:06 annoying grownup tasks that need to be done today 11:06 before i sink into decadence and gaming 11:06 maybe that's just how debts work in the dungeons economy 11:07 <{Demo}> has anyone here ever got magicbane from an arch lich before? 11:07 !coffee 11:07 * Beholder pours aoei a glass of cafe latte, fermented by TheresaMayBot at 12 degrees Celsius. 11:07 Demo i think i seen it happen once, but i dont remember if it was me 11:08 i have got an athame from one once or twice 11:08 <{Demo}> it looks like they have a 1/3 chance of a 2/3 chance of a 1/13 chance of rolling a 1/20 chance for magicbane if it doesnt exist 11:08 <{Demo}> or a 0.08547% chance 11:10 actually they either have magicbane or they don't 11:10 that's a 50/50 chance 11:10 Hah. 11:11 I mean, it's usually a 0% chance, but very very rarely someone gets the 100% chance. 11:12 <{Demo}> i guess that's a thing i can like about nethack 11:12 <{Demo}> i had no idea that was even a thing 11:13 qt: rofl 11:29 [hdf-us] [slex] DracoMorbis (Dia Dop Fem Law), 9143 points, T:3632, killed by a monster (invisible devourer) 11:30 -!- cranberry has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:31 -!- cranberry has joined #hardfought 11:33 <@iatrocrat> im reading the color of magic for the first time 11:33 <@princessSpicycat> qt: neat theft trick 11:35 <@princessSpicycat> turns out, one of the top results for "how to keep a fork up to date with upstream", contains a big dose of "this is a bad idea, do not do this" along with the instructions. https://rhonabwy.com/2016/04/04/how-to-maintain-a-git-remote-fork/ 11:37 <@princessSpicycat> which kinda means that a highly active main repo, necessarily discourages forks? and that'd help explain why dcss forks are rarer than nethack forks. they're always revamping/refactoring their codebase in big ways 11:37 <{Demo}> i want to maintain alt slex 11:38 <{Demo}> where we automatically pull slex but then defuck the version history with all the exe bloat in it 11:38 <{Demo}> so its the same code as slex, just the repo isnt 400000 TB 11:39 <{Demo}> and by maintain i mean set up ci/cd to do it for me that just watches the slex repo, unfucks it, and force pushes it back over my alt slex repo 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 878 points, T:1215, killed by a gnome lady, while sleeping 11:46 mm that kinda makes sense spicy 11:46 note also that variants got really big when NetHack 3.4.3 was stable for many years 11:46 I have lots of opinions what AdeonHack would look like 11:46 dungeon would be 20 levels long 11:46 half of items would be gone 11:46 half of monsters would be gone 11:46 Adeon: have you heard about BrevisHack? 11:47 all resistances would be changed 11:47 I think you might like it 11:47 no mind flayers 11:47 <{Demo}> someone post the changelog 11:47 I'll try to find it Demo 11:47 this one? https://github.com/demogorgon22/brevishack 11:47 https://github.com/demogorgon22/brevishack/blob/3.4.3-nao/changelog.md 11:47 yyeah 11:48 yes that actually sounds awesome 11:48 it is awesome 11:48 Adeon: it's really really fun 11:48 think luxidream has the world record at liek 22 mins 11:48 it might be online still on something.diddlydingusdu.de 11:48 i forgot the address of the server 11:48 it's not 11:48 noooooo 11:48 demo killed it 11:48 DEMO WHY 11:48 >:( 11:49 <{Demo}> i dont remember doing that 11:49 me and luxidream ascended it then Demo was like 'this game is too epic i will delet' 11:49 amateurhour: we should double check 11:49 hey i ascended too :< 11:49 but i dont remember the hostname 11:49 <{Demo}> uhh something is on there 11:49 <{Demo}> nethack@dope.diddlydingusdu.de 11:50 oh it lives!! 11:50 fuck i might have forgot my pass again 11:50 it l i v e s! 11:50 <{Demo}> i have no idea what version of brevishack is running on it 11:50 <{Demo}> if its any bit up to date or not 11:50 nvm i remmeber it 11:50 no idea demo 11:50 <{Demo}> i wonder if the dgl crash bug i found ever got fixed 11:50 <{Demo}> i think i reported it a bunch or something 11:51 amateurhour: maybe you only remembered about ages ago when it was online before i even knew it was a thing 11:51 and totally forgot that he brought it back and that you and luxidream ascended *again* and i aslo ascended it 11:51 not all that long ago 11:51 some other ppl also ascended 11:51 I only ascended it once, I must just be straight up wrong 11:51 the xp curve is so busted lol 11:51 <{Demo}> it is pretty fucked rn 11:52 <{Demo}> i think 11:52 <{Demo}> god i dont wannathink about brevishack rn 11:52 it's fine honestly 11:52 ok get to work Demo 11:52 no 11:52 you must fix BrevisHack 11:52 in fact you should probably remove it from the server 11:52 until it is Great once more 11:52 and then host it for us to play test again 11:53 don b sad it gon jus b ha p it hapn at al 11:57 <@princessSpicycat> aoei host it on your bouncer 11:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57 haha 11:57 i suppose that is also an option 11:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Slayer, on T:24431 11:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:24492 12:03 Demo the real solution to slex's repo size is convincing Amy to purge the binaries from the history, breaking actively updated forks that pull updates (are there any?) 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:39815 12:05 not that I know of (i doubt slashthem is pulling updates lol) 12:07 -!- Septieme has joined #hardfought 12:08 <{Demo}> porkhack 12:09 spicycebolla: I have the least trouble? ha ha ha ha 12:09 sure I have less trouble than splicehack or, eventually, evilhack 12:09 but it's an awfully small pool 12:10 and does not indicate I have a small amount of trouble 12:10 but it's important to me to keep up to date with vanilla so I put up with it 12:11 I'm not sure who would benefit from helpful tips on keeping one's variant up to date? 12:11 the other variant devs I *guess* 12:11 sup 12:11 Septieme: hello there 12:11 general kenobi 12:11 XD 12:11 i only got the ref because somebody posted the meme the other day 12:12 i know nothing about star trek honestly 12:12 ... 12:12 gottem 12:12 star *wars* 12:12 not trek 12:12 gottem 12:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:24916 12:12 (i still know nothing about star wars, but i do know the difference :D) 12:13 -!- Roho has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13 <@princessSpicycat> star wars is the one where the special boy saves the day because he was born better 12:14 <@princessSpicycat> star trek is the one where whenever there's a crisis threatening the galaxy, they have a half hour meeting in recliners 12:14 LOL spicy 12:14 accurate 12:14 and often a discussion involving ethics 12:14 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 12:14 to some extent 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:31978 12:15 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15 between Valk and Wiz, which should I try my first ascesion with? 12:15 valk 12:15 they're both excellent roles, valk is traditional for first asc tho 12:15 it is tradition 12:16 :) 12:16 yes 12:16 <@princessSpicycat> worf: we should kill it! troi: i think they're hiding something. riker: permission to speak freely, with all due respect, this problem is very serious and we need to take it serious. data: let's reprogram my finger. 12:16 also while i enjoy challenge and usurping traditions, i too did valk before wiz, when i was a wee NetHacker 12:16 Well, time to bounce back in with valk then rather than experimenting with Wiz 12:16 spicy: rofl 12:17 @princessSpicycat the article you linked recommends rebasing onto the upstream master branch, which sort of assumes you're trying to add a new feature or otherwise get your branch merged back into upstream. if you're writing a nethack variant, DO NOT DO THIS 12:17 cuz what kinda bummed me last time was how my previous run kinda fumbled because I didn't manage to find things that usually can be circumvented with spells 12:17 if I tried to rebase xnethack onto vanilla every time it would be utter hell 12:17 also teleport control sounds awesome 12:17 do it aosdict 12:17 i dare u 12:18 aosdict: do you cherry-pick bits of vanilla main branch or what's normally your approach? 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 524 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32176 12:18 I think the distinction is merge instead of rebase 12:19 i wondered that myself but i worry merge would still be hell lmao 12:19 maybe not as bad hell as rebase 12:19 in all fairness 12:20 so valk it is? 12:20 ye do valk 12:20 Hum Valk let's go 12:20 name ideas? 12:20 shrug 12:20 <@princessSpicycat> my first win was a valk 12:21 same 12:21 I mean, I've been playing with naming em after fire emblem chars 12:21