00:00 on it 00:00 lol 50 power bc of a newt 00:00 I notice you're hungry 00:00 -!- hisacro has joined #hardfought 00:00 Yeah, newts can restore a bit of MP 00:01 i got hungry on the way to the altar 00:01 even lower chance to increase the max if you eat one at full MP 00:01 the newt turned old so i ate it 00:01 i was at full and increased the max 00:01 Ah you got permafood 00:01 i did? i thought newts just did that 00:01 <@deathsushi> permnafood? 00:01 As in food rations 00:01 You know, not-corpses 00:01 Generally if you don't start with permafood one of your main priorities is to find some 00:01 yeah i found a cursed one and cast remove curse on it 00:02 <@deathsushi> Ah yes 00:02 any idea which rooms to search first? 00:02 since there is a hidden shop on this level 00:03 Just eat that corpse 00:03 <@deathsushi> It'll be random 00:03 <@deathsushi> Umbire: didn't realize that was what permafood referenced. Makes sense though 00:03 The altar was too far away for you to make it back 00:03 <@deathsushi> It doesn't rot away 00:03 So DL2 shop, right? 00:03 ya 00:03 They're usually at either "end" of the floor 00:04 vault too but i dont have a pick 00:04 [hdf-us] [seed] Glord (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9122, rt[1:30:11] 00:04 In this case the west end 00:04 Don't always need a pick-axe, if you have a means of teleporting and can find the vault's teleporter you can get in 00:04 pick up cash 00:04 out 00:04 ez 00:04 oh i have that spellbook! 00:05 lol no 00:05 okay 00:05 That was just a failure attempt from reading it 00:05 yes but it teleported me 00:05 Can't rely on that any 00:05 You could get several other effects on top of the book crumbling to dust 00:05 okay just thinking kitchen sink but i hear you 00:05 <@deathsushi> Most spellbooks have a chance of teleporting you if you fail on read 00:06 It's good that you're in that mode of thinking 00:06 Just not something I would do 00:06 Anyway the shop is to the north/south of that upstair I'm sure 00:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:2078 00:06 Meaning there has to be a secret door that leads to it 00:06 You have to search manually with [s] 00:07 i have been, you don't see the turn counter? 00:07 Ah 00:07 Hard to tell sometimes 00:07 Kinda back-and-forthing here 00:07 tgrue 00:07 What I do is pick three sections of wall, do like 00:07 <@deathsushi> 20s is the command I usually use for searching 00:07 15[s] or 20[s] 00:07 <@deathsushi> ^ 00:07 Then move to the next three, repeat 00:07 right okay thats what i forgot thanks 00:08 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 00:08 Corners count too, ftr 00:09 Could also be that the door is to the east of where the shop location would be 00:09 ive used up my rations, should i keep searching for this shop 00:09 You don't really have to 00:09 See if lower floors have a less-hidden shop and/or more food 00:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3486 00:09 Ah, was gonna mention 00:09 <@deathsushi> Welcome to the gnomish mines 00:09 different colored stairs = dungeon branches 00:10 I'd get outta here quickish though 00:10 gnomes are easy to handle but the dorfs'll potentially mess you up 00:10 and right on cue 00:10 we're about to find out lol 00:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:2505 00:10 Oh sweet piss 00:10 You're an elven priest 00:10 Even worse 00:10 <@deathsushi> Yah I'll take that 00:10 jesus 00:11 well i can find that vault now 00:11 Ye 00:11 And the shop path 00:11 (hopefully without digging into the shop itself) 00:11 I'd stick with the small shield 00:11 <@910rd> !lastgame Glord 00:11 @910rd: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Glord/nethack/dumplog/1613268717.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Glord/nethack/dumplog/1612645893.nh.html 00:11 It's the most casting-friendly 00:11 Def. try the boots for the AC though 00:12 wont it just give me the same iron recoil effect 00:12 yeah it does 00:12 <@910rd> I think my game crashed 😦 00:12 Wait right 00:12 6_9 00:12 That was vanilla brain speaking 00:13 hey, ive' been doing it all night 00:13 <@luxidream> K2: 12 pm eastern 00:13 <@luxidream> same as always 00:13 true 00:13 <@luxidream> sorry, pings are still broken here 00:14 Vault may be in that empty space to the east 00:14 As for shop, hmmm 00:15 rood kobold 00:15 I'm tryin to steal over here! 00:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:8631 00:15 You sure you heard shopkeepers on this floor? 00:15 i thought so 00:16 You might've confused the vault for that 00:16 is counting money the vault thing too? im not positive if that was the oen 00:16 It is 00:16 ah, maybe just a vault then 00:16 For shops you want cash registers and cursing shopkeepers 00:16 i MIGHt have heard that one but it was many messages ago 00:16 @luxidream i am still awake o.o 00:16 Bright side is there's only like a couple general areas left to check 00:16 <@luxidream> !who 00:16 @luxidream: [hdf-us] Deathsushi [xnh] CntFai [xnh] luxor [slshm] KingGizzard [evil] dbanethacker [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] naoky [nh370] Arahael [evil] 00:16 any point to eating any of these or should i just find a monster 00:17 <@luxidream> just checking if you weren't running out of tilt 00:17 Either find a monster or just pray when you've been weak from hunger for a bit 00:17 oh right 00:17 Could eat the tripe but probably not a good idea while digging 00:17 Okay now 00:18 Oh, piss. 00:18 haha nah im not running 00:18 Right, I recall now, that was a change made 00:18 i guess i'll just go eat a gnome or dwarf 00:18 You have to actually drop your food for it to count 00:18 i just cant sleep 00:18 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 00:18 Just nom the tripe for now 00:18 yooo lol 00:18 Or those, those help 00:19 And nausea 00:19 I'd just wait it out 00:19 whoopps lol 00:19 is theres omething i can do at the altar or with my holy shit 00:19 <@deathsushi> Eat tripe? 00:19 <@deathsushi> Huh, I've never done tahtn unless totally despearet 00:19 im glad im not actually competing today because if i dont manage to sleep at all tonight (wich looks likely) i would be a rek 00:19 yeeeeeeeah i regret listening that time 00:19 no offense umbire it's been a wondrous and confusilating run 00:19 Nah, non taken 00:20 I forgot about the damn food thing 00:20 with prayer 00:20 hm 00:20 I'd say quaff holy water but you're chaotic, so... 00:20 none* 00:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3801 00:20 wondering if i should quaff a random potion or take a chance switching wepaons, problem is i'm hitting the dog 00:20 leaning towards quaff 00:20 CNT-FAI: Or perhaps chuck some food item at the dog? 00:21 No, the dog is her pet 00:21 So why is CNT hitting it? 00:21 Problem is she's confused/stunned from the tripe 00:21 yeah thats where the other tripe ration went 00:21 Ahh! 00:21 confused 00:21 It was either that or faint from hunger on the way back potentially 00:21 That was smooth! 00:21 Which would get her bat bitten for sure 00:21 OF COURSE that one was oil 00:21 Why wouldn't it be! 00:21 it WAS oil 00:21 lmfaoooooo 00:22 Well, take 2 00:22 should i just drink the holy water? whats' the chaotic thing about there 00:22 It damages you if you're chaotic. 00:22 oh 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a plain spellbook given to him by Anhur, on T:12132 00:22 Yeah. 6_9 00:22 Shit, restore ability 00:22 WHEW 00:23 Heal up, and we resume this misadventure 00:23 Wasn't safe to pray? 00:23 We tried that first 00:23 tried that 00:23 But as mentioned 00:23 I forgot about the fucking food thing 00:23 bc my god likes me quite a bit 00:23 Why so much digging? 00:23 vault 00:23 i.e. you have to drop all food items for a safe prayer to restore your nutrition 00:23 That uses a ton of food. 00:24 ive mostly been eating kills 00:24 Yeah, we were vault hunting 00:24 Back to the mines, methinks 00:24 I'd go to soko for a bit as well, grab the food. 00:24 Remember, you can switch hands with x 00:24 soko? 00:24 right thanks 00:24 Yeah, Sokoban is a branch here as well 00:24 Lot of food items 00:24 But it's much further down 00:24 okay i think i should just kill a gnome 00:24 Lots of good stuff, generally. It's one level past the oracle. 00:25 Not very much, but enough that we have to worry about actually making it there first 00:25 Candle but no corpse, next 00:25 what do candles do btw 00:25 light source 00:25 feck 00:25 <@luxidream> food 00:26 More food 00:26 You can light them for a short time. Yeah. Later they become part of the invokation ritual, but that's a long way and you'll have plenty of candles later. 00:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4335 00:26 Ow 00:26 ah shit 00:26 Finish eating it 00:26 really? the tainted food? 00:26 That happens with regular noncursed food 00:27 It's not tainted, just "rotten" 00:27 Different from "aged" rotten 00:27 Sometimes the first bit just doesn't go down right 00:27 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:27 oh ok 00:27 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ weird distinction to make, I know 00:27 Anyhow, hold on a tic 00:27 Is xnh easier or harder than vanilla? 00:27 i think balance is fixed in both directions 00:28 Though, I notice that Cnt is an elf? 00:28 Rif's an elf, yeah 00:28 So no iron 00:28 a nice hat though 00:28 Mines will be a slightly bit more dangerious then. 00:28 eh 00:28 Yeah, just having the helmet is nice 00:28 anyway im only not trying the blessed cape because you said hold on 00:28 Oh, yeah, your robe is in your cloak slot 00:28 If that cloak is blessed, you might as well try it, slightly higher chance it's enchanted, imho. 00:28 And it's a spellcasting booster iirc 00:29 aw RIP 00:29 I'd value AC higher than spellcasting, to be honest. 00:29 oh yeah should i further enhanbce the mace 00:29 <@deathsushi> Plus capes look badass 00:29 slash the pick 00:29 yeah that is the main thing for me rn death tbh lol 00:29 On that note 00:30 Don't 00:30 oh lordt 00:30 whoops 00:30 lol i thought you meant enhance the weapons 00:30 I was expecting you to stop and wait! D: 00:30 shouldve saved the tripe 00:30 yeah my bad 00:30 communication breakdown 00:30 All good, we're learning 00:30 But yeah, a few things 00:30 Find out what enchantment that cloak is, at least. 00:30 First, NEVER eat cats or dogs 00:30 arahael how 00:30 Unless you're an orc or Caveman 00:30 That's different. 00:30 noted 00:31 CNT-FAI: Put it on, once you've BUC'ed it. 00:31 i did 00:31 Second, enchantments on armor reveal themselves when you wear it 00:31 It was just a plain +0 00:31 okay 00:31 Ah, cool. 00:31 So swap back to the robe 00:31 arahael: She's a priest 00:31 for real why 00:31 inherent BUC knowledge 00:31 Higher AC 00:31 ah 00:31 Ah! Nice, I thought she was a elf wizard. 00:31 Better* AC rather 00:31 Elven priesty 00:31 Third, that dorf you kilt 00:31 Dropped their armor 00:31 ya 00:32 I saw something mithril in the pile 00:32 theres a mithril sword in mys tash up in 2 00:32 Might work for you AC-wise if not necessarily casting-wise 00:32 as well 00:32 ill double back and check the armor 00:32 i thought you were gonna say stash to sell 00:32 It's a short distance away 00:32 Right by that dart trap 00:32 OOH 00:32 ring mail, thats why i dodged it 00:32 CPM AND mithril ring mail 00:32 yeah but the metal 00:32 Mithril 00:32 i.e. not metal 00:33 tha'ts not metal? i didnt realize 00:33 Yeah, in xNetHack, object properties exist 00:33 So things have a "default" material 00:33 But might be made of other stuff 00:33 Elven ring mail is safe to wear for you to begin with 00:33 And being mithril, it's AC... 00:34 Yeah that's good actually 00:34 Keep the robe 00:34 alright im assuming kill soem more food and then stash some stuff 00:34 You need that for casting anything ever 00:34 <@deathsushi> And then ascend 00:34 May as well wear it 00:34 No, no 00:34 Put it straight on 00:34 nice 00:34 oh yeah like the elves in the movies 00:34 You have a shirt slot, a body armor slot, and a cloak slot 00:35 That worked out 00:35 CNT-FAI: Keep an eye out for tins, btw. If they're spinach, eat them. 00:35 just liek irl 00:35 Unless they're cursed 00:35 i can easily uncurse stuff 00:36 Why does Evony still exist 00:36 oh hi floating eye 00:36 You still have those darts, right? 00:36 yes 00:36 Right 00:36 What's that fungus there 00:36 also the copper dagger 00:36 Ah, lichen 00:36 free food 00:37 CNT-FAI: Lichen never expires. 00:37 Yeah, as mentioned earlier 00:37 [;] is easier to use for farlooking, as an FYI for the future 00:37 Oh yeah, copper's antibacterial 00:37 So fungi are weak to it 00:37 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:38 oh right 00:38 hows this skull cap compared to the plumed wood helmet ya think 00:38 Test it and find out 00:38 If it doesn't pan out you can stash it 00:38 doesnt seem to change anything 00:38 is that the heaveir hat 00:38 The plumed helmet is heavier slightly 00:39 The number next to each item is its weight 00:39 ah right 00:39 Skull caps are orcish helms 00:39 Iron is the default material 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2478 00:39 So either the bone cap or that wooden helmet is preferable 00:39 laright so theres teh existing stash ftr 00:40 Ick, iron amulet 00:40 i uncusred it 00:40 Uncursed 00:40 Did it try to strangle you? 00:40 typo 00:40 oh 00:40 no 00:40 If it was cursed already then odds are it might not be any good for you anyway 00:40 And even if it was, iron :/ 00:41 Mind you, I've had highly enchanted cursed items - but quite unusual. 00:41 Stash the blank spellbook 00:41 should i stash these potions/books 00:41 ah 00:41 And at least one of your holy waters 00:41 CNT-FAI: As a tip when vault hunting - a vault requires four tiles in each direction. Your tunnels are way too tight. 00:42 ty 00:42 Keeping backup holy water in case something happens to your current cache 00:42 Yeah, vaults are 2x2 tiles 00:42 4x4 if you count the walls 00:42 CNT-FAI: They're a 2x2 room, but they also have wall tiles, so you're looking for a 4x4 space. Just make your rows/columns for each 4th position and you'll be fine. 00:42 The gray stones are flint 00:42 Umbire: Heh - that. :) 00:43 So useless to you 00:43 higher AC is better? I forget 00:43 It's like golf 00:43 Lower is better 00:43 A good last ditch ranged weapon, but you already have darts. 00:43 So your robe is fine for the cloak slot 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed naoky's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3020 00:43 And you can freely sell most dorf cloaks as junk for gold 00:44 You can find golds and stuff in the walls or buried as well 00:44 that is why i usually played arc in my youth 00:44 Aye 00:44 we discussed teh whole thing with the moria fork 00:45 Yeye 00:45 Garlic and wolfsbane are things you wanna keep for warding 00:45 I find collecting things to sell are a bit of a waste of time. 00:46 Yeah, but if you need the gold early on 00:46 it's a Thing You Can Do 00:46 Arcs make it esp. efficient 00:46 Indeed. 00:46 Stash the gems and stones 00:46 Also, the mithril you were wearing wore less because you had it on your person 00:47 "wore less"? 00:47 weighed less 00:47 My focus is split ok 6_9 00:47 Ah. :) 00:47 yeah but you corrected me for switching an r and s while typing fast 00:47 lol 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 467 points, T:2329, killed by an uninjured iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:47 it is the nature of this nighg 00:48 should i go ahead nad enhance mace or is it just gilding the lily 00:48 Uhhhhhhhhh 00:48 I think your current mace is fine honestly 00:48 OH 00:49 You mean the skill 00:49 <_> 00:49 Yeye go ahead 00:49 yes, #enhance 00:49 k 00:49 I thought you mean the enchant weapon scroll 00:49 Additionally, when digging I tryto avoid diagonal corridors 00:50 I want a path I can fit back into 00:50 yeah makes sense 00:50 As for going to the Mines to kill more gnomes, idk if I would 00:50 the logic there was just to save time for hunting 00:50 Fainting of hunger in the mines is usually death 00:50 you're the tour guide 00:51 I think we're safe to try a hunger prayer again AFTER we drop the garlic and wolfsbane on hand 00:51 Stop 00:51 I don't mean stash 00:51 Just drop out of your inventory 00:51 i was just heading to the stiars 00:51 Yeah but you're fainting from hunger 00:51 Once you're fainting, you've already gone past emergency. 00:51 Best take care of that first 00:51 See 00:51 sweet 00:52 Then you pick it up and go along your merry way 00:52 If you survive a faint, consider it astonishingly good luck that a newt didn't appear to nibble you to death. 00:52 2 or 3 lol 00:52 Long as you do something to please your god in-between waiting out prayer timeouts, you're good 00:53 You might've just dug around the vault lol 00:53 I'm a bit confused as to why you're digging for vaults so much when you're strugglign with food. 00:53 well the vault must be in that last area 00:53 oh 00:53 But also 00:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7440 points, T:6678, killed by a seriously wounded leocrotta, while praying 00:53 second 00:53 <@deathsushi> Those leocrottas 00:53 well arahael i hadn't played nethack in like 10 years 00:53 Leocrottas suck 00:53 <@deathsushi> Yah, they're nuts 00:53 But yeah, couple of places you can check 00:53 eh they're not that bada 00:53 compared with, say, mumakil 00:53 If you hold still while I take a look 00:53 sure 00:53 <@deathsushi> I find leo's kill me way more often than mumaki 00:53 wait so i go back up 00:53 Shriekers are safe to pummel btw, eat for poison res 00:54 <@deathsushi> By the time I'm running into the mumi's, I'm hucking them across the room 00:54 No I'm saying, don't get too far ahead 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed yoleo531's ghost, the former Digger, on T:3860 00:55 Heading to the Discord side... 00:55 What's that blue tilde? 00:55 Something dug through that wall 00:55 does that mean i have to open discord now 00:55 lol 00:55 no 00:55 engraving arahel 00:55 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823057228458098698/unknown.png 00:55 CNT-FAI: Nice. 00:55 <@Umby> I just use this end to send images 00:55 <@deathsushi> Does anyone play ZAPM? I just noted that's a variant on HF 00:55 <@Umby> or chat if I'm away from IRC 00:55 i played it to death 00:56 the anal probe mechanic bugged me 00:56 jesus 00:56 so heres that uncursed water 00:56 It was the 80s and aliens were a thing 00:56 oh im familiar 00:56 Not an excuse in the slightest 00:56 just 00:56 yeah, 00:56 yeah 00:56 Latin engraving eh 00:57 Oh sheesh 00:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11311 points, T:4147, killed by an energy vortex 00:57 Rother hit p. hard meleewuse 00:57 wise* 00:57 yeah 00:57 But they're slow 00:57 So outrunning and kiting is viable 00:57 i have 70/90 pw though 00:57 Fair 00:57 yay 00:57 <@deathsushi> anal probe and the bizarro orgasmatron as the sought after artifact... little bit.. WHACKY 00:57 should i eat this bastard 00:57 Yes 00:57 They're safe 00:58 They're basically just ram-like 00:58 ow 00:58 cet 00:58 Iron bars 00:58 huh 00:58 whats that about 00:58 deathsushi: The argasmatron!? 00:58 That's normal 00:58 also brb getting water irl 00:58 Some of those one-room closets hidden behind walls have bars blocking them instead 00:59 You'll find a corpse and a scroll of teleport in there if you dig around 00:59 ahhhh 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:4997 00:59 double dungeon 00:59 <@deathsushi> arahael: Yah 01:00 <@deathsushi> arahael: Talking about ZAPM 01:00 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823058384760471574/vaultmap.png 01:00 deathsushi: Someone's into kinky shit there, then. 01:00 the sad thing 01:00 is its just how the shit zapm referenced was 01:00 basically I think those are where the vault's most likely to be back on DL 2 01:00 Yeah it wasn't even like a kink thing in the probing case 01:00 Now the orgasmotron though 01:00 r*pe fear was considered a hilarious thing to put in a horror or sci fi movie 01:01 it was a godless, evil age 01:01 For a given value of "hilarious" 01:01 Nerd culture blows sometimes 01:01 well, thats why i say considered 01:01 if you think r*pe culture is a thing now 01:01 Ye, just stating my agreement 01:01 <@deathsushi> arahael: Or just like the Southpark guys' movie ORGAZMO 01:01 <@deathsushi> Kind of tacky 01:01 that was the sad side of the coin 01:01 deathsushi: Never watched southpark, the swearing just didn't work for me. 01:02 In any case, let's see who our unfortunate prisoner was 01:02 nerds who didnt want to r*pe ppl just had this absurd fabio dream 01:02 <@deathsushi> arahael: I get it. The crassness can turn people away from the brilliance 01:02 <@deathsushi> Both sides are present 01:02 werejackel 01:02 Werejackal eh 01:02 should i do anything with that 01:02 deathsushi: Definitely. 01:02 Anyway, you know informally know what scroll is teleport 01:02 <@deathsushi> Dlvl2: Frostbrand. Yes please. 01:02 oh right 01:02 deathsushi: I can watch family guy, though. 01:03 deathsushi: Though family guy is a tad... Disturbing, at times. 01:03 you hit o for type-naming right 01:03 ah fuck if orgot which one it was llol 01:03 couldn't tell 01:03 #name 01:03 okay 01:03 The command was right 01:03 but you wanna type name to be sure 01:03 ah, yes 01:03 interesting 01:03 Ye 01:03 Umbire: It's always teleport? 01:03 Yeah 01:04 Umbire: Interesting - even in evil? 01:04 though other scrolls can show up in addition 01:04 But there's always a tele scroll in those barred/walled-off closets 01:04 No apparent effect 01:04 Try to #jump 01:04 <@deathsushi> arahael bit repetitive over time, too 01:04 Not jumping boots 01:04 yeah 01:04 and easy 01:04 Not fumbling 01:05 do i dip anything i currently have 01:05 deathsushi: Not surprising. I dont' watch many of those, though I do watch futurama sometimes. 01:05 * arahael doesn't own a TV. 01:05 Futurama is good 01:05 Uh, nothing urgently needs dipping 01:05 You can always backtrack to fountains later on 01:05 it's okay, there's a really forced transmisogyny arc 01:05 Yeah it's had bad eps like that 01:06 aside from being oppressive and shitty it also broke some of the characters for me 01:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:22414 01:06 like leela parroting a hate movement's crap just... 01:06 kinda ruined every other episode to a degree 01:06 The robot marriage thing was kinda bad too honestly 01:06 simpsons characters do transmisogyny stuff but you expect it because they're dickheads so that their interactions are funnier 01:06 Consistent with the characters, though. Eg, bender always watches for himself, only. 01:06 it's still not great since groening clearly went to some effort to make the show respect the bigoted pov 01:07 Yeah 01:07 it's consistent with bender and the rich girl 01:07 was about to say just that 01:07 to a degree 01:07 Amy 01:07 And at least it's not subtle. It's clear the creators are very aware of it. 01:07 yeah 01:07 And they're ensuring that the audience is aware, too. 01:07 in groening's case he just agrees with the bigots, a lot of show runners do too 01:07 I mean the unsubtlely makes it worse in quite a few cases 01:07 yeah 01:07 ultimately our fear of pain/death/r*pe is considered hilarious by ppl like that 01:08 thats the subtext 01:08 Which is unfortunate. :( 01:08 also like why would you pile on to ppl who can't even use a bathroom 01:08 i stopped using public bathrooms months ago and i live in new jersey and it's a pandemic 01:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1644 01:08 Eh? Can't use a bathroom? I must've missed that episode. 01:08 irl 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:6237 01:08 Bathroom panic is a thing 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed SamG's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:6257 01:08 Though in your case I wouldn't use Jersey bathrooms anyway 01:09 have been forced out of the bathroom by an actual man 01:09 eh, wawa is pretty clean 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:6286 01:09 NY public bathrooms as it is are already 😬 01:09 that's a partially separate issue 01:09 Weird that a man would force you out of a bathroom. 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed shadowrider38's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:6333 01:10 well, yeah, it's weird and sucks 01:10 Weird that people would get so worked up about trans people in bathrooms to begin with 01:10 But alas :/ 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:6383 01:10 that was in philly and a very decent experience compared to some parts of the country 01:10 in western missouri there were definitely men considering assaulting me, you can see it in their eyes if they think you're inherently violent and there's no point hiding it from you 01:10 <@deathsushi> Such a weird stand to take eh? 01:11 <@deathsushi> But people get their heels dug in, and they seem to forget why they dug them in in the first place... fear, presumably 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1636 01:11 Blegh. It probably doesn't help that so many of their movies are very into vigilant justice. 01:11 yeah its a mix of fear and rage that varies 01:11 We could probably go on about that into tomorrow night honestly 01:11 good point 01:11 not to police things 01:12 no i'ts itme to do some elfen violoence 01:12 Just that it runs that deep, y'know? 01:12 Sure 01:12 small tangent, did we see any messages for a vault on this level 01:12 Seems not 01:12 nah 01:12 Woohoo! There's a nymph in this soko level! WITH A POTION! 01:12 Needed something to dilute? 01:12 ooh a lock pick, handy 01:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Adept, on T:6171 01:13 CNT-FAI: Dwarves with picks are dangerious as heck. 01:13 Ooh, dorf'll be filling 01:13 CNT-FAI: I frequently die to queens with mithril picks. 01:13 yeh, but i didn't even use 1/4 of my power to heal 01:13 CNT-FAI: I'd have stepepd back at the least if I had to heal. 01:13 Because you have casting friendly stuff on 01:13 yeah but 98 pwr 01:13 why bother 01:14 you're right Rif 01:14 But it's worth *considering* at least 01:14 true 01:14 esp. if you run into one of the more heavier equipped dorf 01:14 Far as stuff like food, as long as it's not cat, dog, or of your species, you're good to eat it 01:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Yeo Elf Mal Law), 910 points, T:2010, killed by a falling rock 01:15 damn 01:15 these mithril boots 01:15 I'd keep em on, dunno what the heck riding boots are yet 01:15 Might be water walking by sheer process of elimination 01:15 alright see anything else to drop 01:15 ...or elven boots 01:16 Which, you have intrinsic stealth as an elf anyway, don't you 01:16 lemme check actually 01:16 sounds right 01:16 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Rod Mal Law) averted death, on T:2148 01:16 weird how when I finally talk to a new person my memory goes haywire 01:17 its a thing in general in pandemic time 01:17 like professors are slowing down 01:17 Yeah but me being autistic and selectively social to begin with 01:17 6_9 01:17 oh i know me too 01:17 fug 01:18 I think they're water walking if they're anything at all 01:18 Elves don't start with stealth so 01:18 it would've IDed 01:18 so i switch back to the lower AC riding boots? 01:18 I think they're about the same as the mithril boots actually? 01:18 nah like 2 AC dif 01:18 Lemme see again? 01:18 Which is significant at this point in the game. 01:18 yeah 2 01:18 Oh yeah, definitely keep the mithril shoes on 01:19 I'm still getting used to material differences 01:19 But the hard shoes are default AC 2 01:19 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:13888 01:19 Mithril armor has +1 bonus to AC 01:19 is the whistle anything 01:19 There's only two types 01:19 And it's safe to test 01:19 So [a] away 01:19 CNT-FAI: You only want to keep one if it's producing a "strange" sound. 01:19 Regular whistle 01:19 gotcha 01:20 You can type name that "regular" or we/ 01:20 CNT-FAI: SUmmons your pets back to you. 01:20 OH 01:20 I name my whistles after teh sound they make. 01:20 It doesn't hurt to keep around regular whistles 01:20 i can go get the dog from the gnome mines 01:20 Until you find a magic one 01:20 i gotta ditch one of the backup weapons or something 01:20 Just go back to your stash 01:20 CNT-FAI: Next time you're in the mines, get an alkys. They're remarkably good. 01:20 You won't fall UP the stairs 01:20 Can't believe I didn't really use one until this game. 01:21 arahael: iron, remember? 01:21 Now if another material aklys drops then go all-in 01:21 Aklyses are goated 01:21 Umbire: Yeah, they have other materials though. 01:21 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Rod Mal Law), 17421 points, T:2228, killed by a shotgun shell 01:21 Umbire: Mine's silver. :) 01:21 Which is like, amazing. 01:21 neat 01:21 Silver or Mithril alkys is the best, imho. 01:21 I'd be playing along with you guys if I wasn't simultaneously watching 01:21 okay anything in particular else i should be dropping 01:22 Keep the darts, those are super light 01:22 k 01:22 and easy ranged option to carry 01:22 something's gotta give 01:22 thinking emoji... 01:22 Yeah, just lemme look and think about what 01:22 Ah what the hell, enchant your mace 01:22 the only thing i can say for sure is the dagger bc i have a lock pick, but it is also an easy ranged option to carry 01:22 k 01:22 Free up a lil space, give you more of an edge 01:22 Dagger is about as heavy as 12 of those darts 01:23 righto 01:23 And once you get an akyls that isn't iron you're set for ranged combat 01:23 10 technically 01:23 tru :B 01:23 What else... 01:23 You don't REALLY need to carry those spellbooks around so much thinking on it 01:23 Can run back if you need to refresh on the spells 01:24 You get like 20k turns of memory to start I think 01:24 But whether or not you do stash those spellbooks, at the least stash the uncursed water and all the unID'd potions 01:24 Those start piling up and weighing on you after a while 01:25 Once we figure out what the ID scroll is then we come back to it 01:25 i never thik to stash potions bc like what if i get low health.. but i kinda dont at this point 01:25 You have the spell for that 01:25 right 01:25 And nearly 100 PW 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:7592 01:25 And discretion is the better part of valor, running's always an option 01:25 alright now i think i should go get the dog, though it probably isnt worth raiding the gnomish mines fo rloot, but is there any reason *not* to go kill whats in them for XP? 01:26 oh yeah theres the vault here too 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7878 01:26 I mean the Mines is a great loot source 01:26 Just gonna need a bag for it all before long 01:27 As for taming domestics 01:27 *sigh*, made my poly-piles. Then realised I didn't have a wand of poly. 01:27 Vegetables won't tame dogs but it'll pacify them 01:27 So they'll stop attacking you 01:27 it's already tame 01:27 O 01:27 that's why i'm botehring 01:27 Neat 01:27 If it's already peaceful then you need meats to tame it 01:27 i already threw tripe at it thats why i only had 1 tripe 01:28 Wait so it's tame 01:28 yes 01:28 Then get back to it before it untames 01:28 Wait that's peaceful 01:28 another comms breakdown 6_9 01:28 it was tamed, i said this like 6 times 01:28 and everyone said not to hang out in the mines 01:28 Too long 01:28 Yeah, I'll take responsibility for that 01:29 no worries it was a group effort tbh 01:29 But it being peaceful now, we can find something to tame it with later 01:29 *and come back later, rather 01:29 Hopefully orcs haven't gotten into things a few floors down 01:29 ngl, it sucks tins don't work for taming 01:30 ever thrown a tin can at a dog 01:30 irl 01:30 lol 01:30 point taken 01:30 But still 01:30 yeah 01:30 Just the eastern part left to map 01:30 it would be fair enough to open the tin and toss the food at them 01:30 Yeah if we could do that we'd be in business 01:31 Oh, one thing I often do is if it looks like I'm in minetown... I go back up one level and leave all my scrolls, books, and potions behind and then go back down. 01:31 sadly non-lizard corpses don't work for taming either 01:31 Hm, boulder next to an item 01:31 lol its a cursed blindfold 01:31 Oh yeah, def. a boulder trap 01:31 Push that boulder away first. 01:31 Might be something else in that pile though 01:31 Yeah, once you push it out of alignment the boulder's harmless 01:32 wuhoh 01:32 oh that was easy 01:32 1 hit kill 01:32 CNT-FAI: You *need* a way to blind yourself, if you don't have something, pick up that blindfold. 01:32 k 01:32 hooray +2 weapons 01:32 OH duh 01:32 You can just uncurse it 6_9 01:32 pretty funny though 01:32 CNT-FAI: Just don't wear it unless you need it, but when you need it, you really need it. 01:32 she can lit. just wield/wear it to uncurse it 01:32 Then do that. 01:32 OOH 01:33 Awesome find, eat 01:33 hell yeah 01:33 now i can telepoert or something right 01:33 No, telepathy 01:33 Of the intrinsic persuasion 01:33 oh sweet 01:33 Nah, just when you're blind... You can see all the brainy monsters. 01:33 Meaning you have a use for that blindfold 01:33 Which you can already uncurse 01:33 that'll be enhance armor 01:33 Yahuh 01:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Yeo Elf Mal Law), 411 points, T:1640, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:33 jus been follwiing some of the backscroll CNT-FAI you trans? that's cool if so, me too 01:34 blessed teleport jesus 01:34 Ooh, blessed tele 01:34 yeah 01:34 to aoei 01:34 it's been a ride 01:34 Primo escape item 01:34 i drove from san diego all the way here and some of those places you do not want to be visibly trans let met ell you 01:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:12035 01:34 Glad it's buffed so you get control for that teleport 01:35 I wish you could pick up the spears 01:35 Priests can actually be damn good with those 01:35 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 262 points, T:661, [0:01:00], killed by a wand 01:35 but stout ones are default iron 01:35 oh right 01:35 CNT-FAI: i consider myself fortunate to be openly trans in a big city like Hamburg, it's not perfect but generally quite open ppl/place 01:35 Cavemen taught me the power of spears 01:35 yeah urban germany is another story entirely 01:36 The thing that bugs me about dorfs is they alway-- 01:36 pardon? 01:36 right!? 01:36 "Tried to give an impossible intrinsic 0" 01:36 lol my brain did a 180 for a sec there because of the two intersecting topics 01:36 in germany a dorf is a village 01:37 my b 01:37 i was like Jesse what the fuck are you talking about 01:37 (to the game) 01:37 But yeah dwarfs with pick-axes dig up the level so much 01:37 I no like 01:37 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823067736598380564/unknown.png 01:37 kill dorf take pick 01:37 For aoei's benefit 01:37 4Head 01:37 Yeah I always have my pet do it if I can't 01:37 i did i have a silver pick 01:37 huuuuuh 01:37 so what is this msg 01:37 Iunno but 01:37 aosdict: ^ 01:37 soujnds like bug 01:38 It shouldn't bork the game 01:38 But it is most definitely a bug 01:38 well i'll take a pick for aos 01:38 pic* 01:38 <@Shadow_Rider> Bruh am I going crazy I’ve dipped my samurai long sword in legitimately 10 fountains and haven’t gotten Excalibur 01:38 I just sent onelol 01:38 oh okay thankjs 01:38 oh tahts what that was 01:38 @Shadow_Rider variant? 01:38 <@Shadow_Rider> Vanilla 01:38 woah 01:38 <@Shadow_Rider> 3.7 01:38 Yeah it links to the image on the IRC side 01:38 damn shhadow_rider that sucks 01:38 lol 01:38 happens sometimes tho 01:38 >disorder 01:38 the error message got spicier 01:38 oh fuck off 01:38 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh well 01:39 anarchy in the gnomish mines 01:39 wait did you say samurai long sword 01:39 I'll pass 'em to aosdict later 01:39 https://i.postimg.cc/qMMKNGBg/image.png @aosdict 01:39 also yeeeeeeeeeeah 01:39 cuz there's teh samurai katana and there's the long sword 01:39 it won't work with your katana 01:39 ^ 01:39 @K2 01:39 you're supposed to dip an actual longsword 01:39 unfortunately 01:39 Not just something that uses the skill 01:39 Tangles 01:39 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh I know 01:40 ah okay 01:40 Game didn't crash in the meantime 01:40 So on wardio we go 01:40 confusing wording 01:40 <@Shadow_Rider> I have an uncursed thoroughly rusty long sword 01:40 but yeah sometimes bad luck with fountains 01:40 box 01:40 <@Shadow_Rider> My b 01:40 o: 01:40 yikes! 01:40 you can keep trying as you get deeper down the dungeon 01:40 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 01:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1224, rt[0:02:31] 01:40 Yeah sounds like just garden-variety bad RNG luck 01:40 it's worse when the long sword you're dipping *is* your main weap lol 01:41 lol 01:41 egg 01:41 I'd hold on to it in case it hatches 01:41 Always pick up and test the wands. 01:41 And if it never does you can just chuck it at someoen 01:41 No 01:41 whoop's 01:41 Umbire: Doesn't it need to be blessed for it to have benefit? (With the eggs) 01:41 You wanna engrave test 01:41 oh right 01:41 Elbereth? 01:41 Yahuh 01:41 Though we know it's directional now 01:41 So that narrows it a bit 01:42 Sleep or death 01:42 One of those two 01:42 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:1716, rt[0:04:01] 01:42 neat 01:42 For the future, engrave E-word with your finger first 01:42 CNT-FAI: Write with your fingers first before you engrave with the wand, but nice work there. 01:42 ty 01:42 np 01:42 Some wands might poof the engraving first 01:42 It's a good way to fish out tele/make invis/cancellation 01:43 Especially the latter 01:43 CNT-FAI: If the engrave-test doesn't do anything, try zapping it at something that's locked, and a doorway that's unlocked. 01:43 Umbire: Not to mention poly. 01:43 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2195, rt[0:05:04] 01:43 Ah yeah 01:43 yeah. as for the bugs on the floor stop message, i have on occasion made the error of assuming it's sleep (it's *usually* sleep) 01:43 But then that makes itself obvious immediately 01:43 i have killed myself with the rebound of a death ray 01:43 Ooh 01:43 from what i thought was sleep wand 01:43 lmao 01:44 If you have telepathy, you can extrinsically see other telepathic monsters 01:44 i recommend not doing that 01:44 the wand thing she means 01:44 Uh oh, orcs around 01:44 Oh yeah, spiders make webs while moving now 01:45 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 holy charging", on T:3021, rt[0:06:43] 01:45 CNT-FAI: Use 's' for search. 01:45 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:3022, rt[0:06:56] 01:45 ah right ty 01:45 Good on ya arahael 01:45 CNT-FAI: Don't want to find yourself going for a swim. 01:45 Some variants' versions of the Mines have water in them 01:45 For context 01:46 wth is a coarse mantelet 01:46 Coarse mantlets are just orcish cloaks 01:46 worth trying on? 01:46 If one's enchanted enough then MAYBe 01:46 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:3478, rt[0:08:36] 01:46 well, can't hurt 01:47 but otherwise same as dwarvish cloaks, I sell 'em for junk 01:47 I usually take the first cloak I find if my current char needs one to cover them 01:47 wait where's the robe 01:47 i have two in inventory and i think dropped a few others 01:47 oh those are hooded cloaks 01:47 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:47 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) stole 1334 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Varjag Njarga's jewelers, on T:3512, rt[0:09:25] 01:47 i guess id ropped it somewhere 01:47 CNT-FAI: Robes are *very special*. 01:47 Ah. 01:47 ah heck 01:48 Yeah, you wanna keep that starting robe 01:48 But you've done well thus far with like 01:48 none of us realizing you ditched it 01:48 well, we'll eventually have to be back in the stash anyway 01:48 yeah no big rush 01:48 CNT-FAI: If you're a monk, especially, then you *need* a robe. Otehrwise, they're still a significant boost to spellcasting./ 01:48 CNT-FAI: I've had games where I had to kill my quest or a priest just for the robe. 01:48 even if you're not a spellcasting role, robe is better than most cloaks 01:48 2 AC, MC 1 01:49 whoops kicked in the wrong direction lmao 01:49 what was the corpse 01:49 Umbire: wiki says 2 AC, MC 2 01:49 or food, w/e 01:49 Oh, pears 01:49 2 pears 01:49 can grab those if you want 01:49 it's bc they're in a web 01:49 aoei: right, brain is proper dead 01:50 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:4302, rt[0:11:39] 01:50 i also thought it was MC2 but i checked incase it changed since 343 and i was remembering old stats 01:50 it's cloak of protection that gives MC 3 01:50 ohhh 01:50 yeah and now *only* prot cloak gives MC3 01:50 yeah you have to burn the web away I think 01:50 ah heck 01:50 used to be you could get it from CoMR too 01:50 should i try the wand on it or something 01:50 For now just off the orc and then go in 01:50 actually 01:50 test your WAND on the orc 01:50 oh baw 01:50 we'll get another orc 01:50 dedded too fast 01:50 nbd 01:51 just hop in the web 01:51 I doubt something'll just spawn right next to you and waste you 01:51 Orcish shield are also iron by default 01:51 oh right 01:51 And generally small shields are just best for caster roles anyway 01:51 interferes the least while providing AC, lightweight 01:51 it is also possible to get MC3 from an MC1 source + amulet of guarding, or an MC2 source and a ring of protection 01:51 enchantable for even more AC 01:52 oh shit 01:52 but you probably have more important uses for ring/amulet slots 01:52 quaff holy water 01:52 i forgot there was a ton of fighting and searching 01:52 Shoot. 01:52 I guess we pray 01:52 Umbire: He's chaotic. 01:52 she 01:52 She is, I know 01:52 But I thought it'd still cure terminal illness 01:52 Which, that's a fat fuckin' no 01:52 Anshar still likes me 01:53 Yeah, as long as you don't pray TOO often you're good 01:53 yeeeah i think you need extra/full healing or cure sickness spell? 01:53 Lucky. 01:53 or unihorn 01:53 (i.e. every 600 turns at minimum) 01:53 if not theres the chaoitc altar on DL1 01:53 yeah this has been a very lucky run 01:53 holy water will cure lycanthropy 01:53 So by around turn 7800 you're safe to pray again 01:53 regardless of align 01:53 i prayed for no reason up there and got blessed in some fashion 01:53 holy water hurts chaotics, heals lawfuls 01:53 She also has wolfsbane 01:53 Ooh, Minetown's intact 01:53 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "cursed marker", on T:6053, rt[0:15:29] 01:53 That means shops and a temple 01:53 unholy heals choatic i think 01:53 ^ 01:54 okay i was about to ask 01:54 In this variant, do those purple P's cast ice and fire? 01:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:6057, rt[0:15:48] 01:54 Oh nah 01:54 wtf is a purple P 01:54 never seen that 01:54 If so, CNT-FAI probably wants to stash her scrolls and potions and stuff. Ah, sweet... 01:54 Erm - Purple G's. 01:54 okay 01:54 ahhh ok 01:54 in evil do the purple ones also cast spells 01:54 Monkeytown kinda sucks for 01:54 oh im just getting robbed now 01:54 well for reasons you're experiencing rn 01:54 aoei: Yes. 01:55 ah i only knew about the blue ones 01:55 Just chase them down or hurl projectiles to kill them and get it back 01:55 aoei: Often burns your scrolls and stuff - and explodes your potions. :( 01:55 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy ring of conflict", on T:6186, rt[0:16:48] 01:55 wait as econd 01:55 aoei: Those are blue to you!? :) 01:55 Yeah EvilHack's gnowizards are right assholes 01:55 it's sleep 01:55 arahael: well, gnomish wizards look blue to me 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 878 points, T:3672, killed by a guisarme 01:55 aoei: Each to their own. :D 01:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:7223 01:55 adn cast fireball and stuff in evilhack, but there are also purple/magenta gnome kings/queens 01:55 Careful doing that 01:55 yum, monkey meat 01:56 You might hit one of the watch if you don't mind your line of fire 01:56 oh right 01:56 aoei: Yeah, gnomish wizards are between deep-blue and deep-purple to me, so still purple. 01:56 Head into town 01:56 See what shops you got 01:56 don't i need to stash my scrolls and potions or something 01:56 That's in town 01:56 silly 01:56 yea unless you're pretty stacked(and don't mind the alignment/murder penalties) you usually don't want to piss off the wach 01:56 right i thoguht i was supposed to stash them before heading itno town 01:56 One of the shops might have a bag or a box 01:56 watch 01:57 oh ok 01:57 >acoustics 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:10708 01:57 Oh damnit, dorf digging around 01:57 hm is this guy chasing me bc i arleady pissed off the guard 01:57 No 01:57 That's a gnomish wizard lol 01:57 Like before 01:57 oh right 01:57 they're hostile so they'll chase you anyway 01:57 The watch is human 01:58 Man, xnf looks easy. :D 01:58 more water yay 01:58 you'll usually know if the watch is pissed 01:58 because they blow their whistles 01:58 and make a racket 01:58 xNetHack is just vanilla but touched up 01:58 oh right 01:58 its been years 01:58 and rebalanced 01:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy wand of death", on T:6609, rt[0:20:22] 01:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:6615, rt[0:20:24] 01:58 now where's that dorf 01:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:6616, rt[0:20:27] 01:58 xnh is not too far from vanilla 01:58 Empty room 01:58 wish for death wand intresting choice 01:59 useful stash location later 01:59 20min quest also pog 01:59 Umbire: Do you pronounce it like 'dorf' because the 'w' is silent, or is that an "accent"? 01:59 Because it's funny. 01:59 arahael: it's just memery 01:59 it's jsut a fun variant 01:59 i think 01:59 ^ 01:59 Oh, before you go on 01:59 Ah, interesting. 01:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:7397 01:59 you can safely displace peacefuls 01:59 Like you would pets 02:00 Keep that in mind if one blocks your path or w/e 02:00 https://i.postimg.cc/qMMKNGBg/image.png 02:00 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:6921, rt[0:21:48] 02:00 whoops 02:00 here we go https://twitter.com/dril/status/384408932061417472 02:00 always think of that when i get a candles hop 02:00 classic lol 02:00 CNT-FAI: Btw, it's traditional not to kill Izchak, even if you do decide to kill shopkeepers. But *don't* anger the shopkeepers in your game - you need as a minimum reflection to get away with not dying, and they're generally tough. 02:00 Izchak is guaranteed to show up in Minetown btdubs 02:01 ah right 02:01 ty for the reminders arahael 02:01 yo i think he's on an early wow game 02:01 CNT-FAI: Also, that ] in the shop there is a mimic. 02:01 wait 02:01 that was pre-castle quest 02:01 ahhhh 02:01 you can throw your pickaxe in one of those random rooms 02:01 and 3 pre-castle wishes ok so no necssarily early wow 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11381 02:01 Probably kill that dorf before he tries to pick it up tho 02:02 3 magic lamps also possible 02:02 Just drop it then kill 'em 02:02 That's another shop btw 02:02 either way he's on a very good pace 02:02 Shopkeeps don't like having their walls damaged 02:02 Ah, formal ID of sleeping potion 02:02 OW 02:03 You wanna drop the gold one too 02:03 gold blunt weapons fucking HURT in this game ftr 02:03 lol didnt even notice ig rabbbed that 02:03 yeah 02:03 that was as much damage as anyone's done ot me yet 02:03 so silver/gold pick-axes aren't a bad backup weapon honestly 02:03 25 mins and he's done quest and got castle wow 02:03 that's our luxi 02:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy greased fixed ring of conflict named the last one broke", on T:7481, rt[0:25:28] 02:03 lol 02:03 lol F 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 744 points, T:911, killed by an uninjured goblin 02:04 <@Shadow_Rider> Lmfao 02:04 food shop? 02:04 ye 02:04 yos 02:04 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy greased fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:7486, rt[0:25:59] 02:04 let's see the selection 02:04 no medusa reflection i guess :c 02:04 you have good charisma so prices should be good 02:04 still looking like real tight run 02:04 also shops only but what they sell 02:04 wat a champ 02:04 no point dropping anything here 02:04 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy ring of teleport control", on T:7522, rt[0:26:35] 02:05 wait really okay 02:05 (also also you have to drop things on "not right in the doorstep" to sell them) 02:05 i thought everyone bought everything 02:05 Yeah, only the general stores buy everything 02:05 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:7565, rt[0:27:07] 02:05 still may as well pick up food 02:05 hell ye 02:06 oh no. 02:06 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy wand of polymorph", on T:7636, rt[0:27:41] 02:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:13269 02:06 phew 02:06 def. take those darts 02:06 Now where's the temple 02:06 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:8096, rt[0:28:21] 02:06 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:8097, rt[0:28:22] 02:06 Should be on the left side 02:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:7531 02:06 here it is 02:06 Co-aligned :D 02:07 what am i doin here 02:07 I just wanted to see if it was co-aligned lol 02:07 oh good yeah taht saves time 02:07 But yeah, you can lure stuff near it to kill for sacs if you watn 02:07 want* 02:07 when it's safe to pray you can use it to make holy water 02:07 btw do i want anything from itzchak/to kill that mimic 02:07 and once you get enough gold you can buy specific services from the temple priest 02:07 Unaligned altar? 02:08 coaligned 02:08 CNT-FAI: There's a chance that one of the lamps in Izchak's store is magic. 02:08 Definitely get the towel 02:08 okay time to sell the stash 02:08 Tool shop 02:08 They only take tools 02:08 but you MIGHT have some junk tools to sell 02:09 like that whistle, that works 02:09 and i might as well sell the silver pick 02:09 harp you keep, it's obvs. non-magical but you can use it as your tonal instrument later 02:09 Ah, problem with that 02:09 ah right 02:09 won't let you in 02:09 You need to sneak it in using a container 02:10 Dorf dug through the room, that's why the gnome elite was out and about 02:10 NE corner has... 02:10 NOT THE BEES 02:10 thank god there's no poison instadeaths 02:10 Looks like you boys had a run in with them bees! 02:10 also sac fodder! 02:10 [Harry Nilsson's album Arrow] 02:11 alright, hurry to the temple 02:11 dw about the mummy yet 02:11 yay 02:11 nice 02:11 luck 02:11 <@luxidream> I don't think vlad spawned 02:11 yoooooooooo 02:11 x2 02:11 so we're on at least +2 luck 02:11 UH 02:12 please make sure there's no peacefuls around that spore 02:12 i can see the whole line 02:12 except that one diagonal 02:12 that can't be possible lux 02:12 surely 02:12 and god knows 02:12 oh it goe sdiagonal ok 02:12 Yeah, 3x3 square explosion 02:12 centered on the spore's location 02:13 anything killed by that explosion counts as killed by you 02:13 alright we're good 02:13 now what's in that NE room 02:13 piss 02:14 alright, let's come back with more gold and see about the lamps and such 02:14 ooh more rothe 02:14 yeah too heavy 02:15 just eat 'em 02:15 for the heavier stuff you want to lure them by the temple first 02:15 then kill 'em 02:15 oh boy, our first giant ant 02:15 does the giant ant count 02:15 nah 02:15 ants are p. light 02:15 Most of team a is, so you can carry off the corpses 02:16 the problem is we might be too far from the temple 02:16 feck 02:16 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:9583, rt[0:37:47] 02:16 boo 02:16 ah well 02:16 alright so 02:16 for the future 02:17 you can use the kick command to kick in door 02:17 doors* 02:17 i do it all the time 02:17 yeah but it's best to do when the game is mean 02:17 gotcha 02:17 And sets a trap in front of one like that 02:17 that way you can sidestep it diagonally after 02:17 okay wait so can i not sell my stash in these two shops 02:18 you can sell tools in the tool shop 02:18 but that's about it 02:18 no general store :/ 02:18 you sure? should i test it 02:18 I'm sure 02:18 k 02:18 you COULD get a bit more gold and buy the box from the tool shop 02:18 oh lol the mimic moved when you weren't looking 02:18 the whole problem is not having gold, but i do have access to boxes 02:19 Yeah and the large box is $40 02:19 You get a bit more, you buy it 02:19 oh i have much less than that 02:19 okay 02:19 you move it to one of these rooms 02:19 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 197206 points, T:9637, [0:41:03], quit 02:19 you lock the door and the box and you got an easy to manage stash 02:19 (though the watch doesn't like doors being lockpicked 02:20 but if you manage to do the picking in that one turn or else out of their line of sight, you'll be fine) 02:20 A+ luring there 02:20 oh yeah, that fire pillar lit your candle 02:20 ty 02:20 yeah 02:21 best to eat the fruit and floating eye tin now 02:21 lower your overall weight that way 02:21 ah right 02:21 pureed gives good nutrition out of random tins too 02:21 nice 02:21 Oh wait 02:21 before we forget 02:21 probably ideal to go back and tame the dog 02:22 yeah true 02:22 i'll do that on the way back up 02:22 Things get hairy below Minetown 02:22 giant spiders, polytraps, that sorta shiz 02:23 damnit 02:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1745 02:24 can't sell that either, and if it gen'd cursed it's likely to be harmful 02:26 those were left from the dorf digging 02:26 Oh no. 02:26 I think something spawned in your stash room 02:27 there's the bastard 02:28 sleep wand him 02:28 he's heavy but you might be able to sac him if you drop a bunch of other stuff first 02:28 or just eat him 02:28 already pushing that 02:28 either or, not picky 02:28 <@Shadow_Rider> Anyone know why luxi quit? 02:28 lol whoops 02:29 ...yeah when in doubt just drop stuff 02:29 set it on the floor nice and gently 02:29 i dont like covering up stuff like altars with corpses 02:29 Then drop it next to it 02:29 right where that food landed 02:29 that was the coprse i just threw 02:29 oh 02:29 lol 02:30 how do you drop in another square 02:30 I'm bad at brain tonight 02:30 np same tbh 02:30 I meant walk to that square and drop it 02:30 oh ok 02:30 use the temple as your stash area and drop your extra stuff thereEXCEPT the pick-axes 02:30 because a dorf will pick those up and wreck the walls 02:31 is my idea 02:31 then we come back with the gold and buy that box 02:31 do i need to keep all these darts on hand 02:31 put the pick-axes + other stash stuff in 02:31 and we're golden 02:31 ehhhh if you want 02:31 that's a no lol' 02:31 which i was hoping for 02:31 I'd keep at least one of those blessed projectiles on hand in any case 02:32 yep 02:32 less likely to break iirc 02:32 going with both bc this level is crawling with throwers 02:32 aye 02:32 CNT-FAI: If it's so easy for you to bless things, you should bless that book and read it. 02:32 oh i dont think i ever read that spellbook 02:32 k 02:33 I mean her int is actually p. good 02:33 Lemme see it again? 02:33 Umbire: That statement was wonderfully ambigious. :D 02:33 18/16 02:33 What's that amulet? 02:33 so that last book was just unlucky or super high level ig 02:33 yooo 02:33 Cursed, no clue 02:33 yeah super high level i was already lucky 02:33 but important thing is we now have sleep 02:34 anything else u see i should drop 02:34 Sleep is awesome. 02:34 I meant the other book that teleported you 02:34 i know 02:34 Well you can drop the spellbook now you have the spell 02:34 CNT-FAI: I'm a hoarder in nethack, I generally keep everything. 02:34 ^ 02:34 CNT-FAI: If I have a BoH, I'll keep the books too. 02:34 but doing that means accepting stash management 02:34 yes but apoegihao'seihgasdgh 02:34 ...you okay? 02:34 we were doing a specific plan and i was asking what to drop to do that plan 02:34 i just get frustrated repeating myself 02:35 Ah, sorry. 02:35 I understand that too 02:35 We are proceeding with the plan 02:35 so am i dropping more stuff to do that 02:35 hmmm 02:35 CNT-FAI: Ignore _some_ of my contributions then - ultimately, though, this is your game, not ours. :) 02:35 hit [i] again 02:35 noted 02:35 I forget what capacity is rn 02:35 Oh nah 02:35 we're good 02:35 lock it 02:35 <@Shadow_Rider> Any advice on identifying my scrolls with no shops 02:36 CNT-FAI: And tend not to ascend that much anyway. I think Umbire is much better than I am there. 02:36 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Lic Mal Law), 1674 points, T:1768, killed by a monster (angry watch lieutenant) 02:36 <@Shadow_Rider> I’m on dlvl 22 and not a single general store 02:36 <@Shadow_Rider> Or bookstore 02:36 stung by your lock pick, sucks 02:36 That is supremely bad luck btw Rider 02:36 whew 02:36 <@Shadow_Rider> Yep 02:36 <@Shadow_Rider> Still no excal btw 02:36 Shadow_Rider: Altars, at least? Spellcaster? 02:37 Shadow_Rider: Which variant? 02:37 WHOOPS 02:37 <@Shadow_Rider> After another 7-8 fountains 02:37 i forgot myself for a sec 02:37 Watchman saw ya 02:37 It's okay, you're not insta boned 02:37 <@Shadow_Rider> 3.7 samurai 02:37 he caught me again 02:37 ...and now you are... 02:37 CNT-FAI: Now, you can't unpick that particular lock, ever, not without pissing the watch. 02:37 picking the temple lock lmao 02:37 shit 02:37 should have just left the stash and come back and dug a hole in the wall later 02:37 they're also kinda ultramad now you've been caught twice in a row 02:37 i'm already under arrest btw 02:37 yeah 02:38 waiting a bit might've prevented it 02:38 well, what's the strat now 02:38 CNT-FAI: Cast sleep at it, and then run away, perhaps. 02:38 ahhhh right 02:38 of course the actual problem is the watch captain is right on the other side of that wall 02:38 oh shit 02:38 BUT 02:38 i thought it would just be funny to lock the watch captain in with the priest and forgot that uhhh that means he sees the lock eing picked 02:38 the door's locked 02:38 CNT-FAI: I'd say minetown is probably out of play until you're significantly tougher. 02:38 Oh no, another rando watchdude saw it 02:39 Plus, the watch have keys. 02:39 I figured they'd have keys in this variant 02:39 They do in vanilla, too, I think. 02:39 Nah 02:39 You can lock them in safely 02:39 for soem reason its just hilariuos to me to lock the watch captain into the temple 02:39 (relatively) 02:39 Yeah it's funny 02:39 like get peaceful bitch 02:39 enough with the policing 02:39 CNT-FAI: Oh, another point - I tend to play evil, lately, so that influences my playing style a lot. 02:40 oh im chaotic 02:40 No murder penalties 02:40 BUT 02:40 probably best to get away from that door still 02:40 IF the captain has a key 02:40 Umbire: He'll loose telepathy, still, right? 02:40 then we might be in it a bit deep 02:40 yeah im running back to the mines 02:40 she! 02:40 She* 02:40 Oops, sorry, that's twice now. :( 02:40 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:40 it's late at night, i get it, but i'm glad you see it 02:41 ". 02:41 Unless you are chaotic, murder will cause you to lose intrinsic telepathy and two points of Luck. The message when this happens is "You murderer!" " 02:41 AKA we're fine 02:41 Nice. 02:41 okay so at this point we're just re-taming the dog and consolidating the stash upstairs right 02:41 alignment'll take a hit still, though 02:41 I should probably kill a few in my game too, then. ;) 02:41 Yeah 02:41 i cast sleep ont he watchman 02:41 uh oh. 02:41 here comes the capt 02:41 and im burdened oh right 02:42 Best to sleep him too 02:42 Cast sleep at it and oh, yeah, unburden yourself. Probably do that first, even. 02:42 Drop the rocks 02:42 YOu still have time. 02:42 There's a watchperson right there though 02:42 im getting surrounded now 02:42 ...and another in front 02:42 Read blessed tele 02:42 yeah i was trying to close the door so i could quickly zap the other one 02:42 oh right 02:42 No point closing doors on the watch. 02:42 just straight to the stairs im guessing? 02:42 was hoping to save that, but that's quickly becoming "not an option" 02:42 Yeah, hit [<] 02:42 Oh, woah. You have tele-control? Nice. 02:43 well i just figured id buy a turn 02:43 No 02:43 but yeah thankfully we have the blessed transpo 02:43 Blessed teleport gives you control for that read 02:43 Nice. 02:43 well that kinda blows 02:43 I guess you could go further down, and level up, but that's a risky play. 02:43 yeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh 02:43 BUT 02:43 we have a box on the way back up to stash all this shit though! 02:43 i have massive Pw and know sleep 02:43 and a dog to tame! 02:44 so as long as i go in to minetown with a strat, it's feasible to just sleep the cops 02:44 Yeah, you'll have to fight off the watch next time around 02:44 the Captain's usually the hardest 02:44 and they might have attack wands 02:44 <@Shadow_Rider> Wow first no minetown store on level 23 02:44 yay 02:44 oh my shield got burnt 02:44 Shadow_Rider: If you were a spellcasting role, you'd probably want to just wish up a spellbook of identify. 02:45 It's still decent at least 02:45 small shield only loses 1 AC to eroding so if enchanted it's still solid 02:45 since it only gives one base AC to begin with 02:45 but if you dropped it that's fine too 02:45 okay so in the sense that a D&D session that goes totally off the rails is that much funner, this is still one heck of a run 02:45 nah i kept it 02:46 Yeah this has been bumpy but it's still p. good 02:46 not too heavy and i figured burning doesnt make a shield useless 02:46 all the stuff thats gone wrong has been mostly fairly hilariuos 02:46 yeah 02:46 <@Shadow_Rider> Arahael: I had so many scrolls that I just chanced myself on I’d by reading the scroll that I had the most of 02:46 idk about yall but i first got interested in D&D when i heard the funny stories of ppls quests going to complete shit and ppl/things flying everywhere 02:46 Shadow_Rider: Nice, and it was id? 02:46 Yeah, those are likely to be benign 02:46 Oh uh, I think same! 02:46 @ CNT-FAI 02:47 scrolls you have the most of tend to be like, ID or tele 02:47 theres an empty large box right there 02:47 there's our trusty box 02:47 let's see if we can't find our robe too 02:47 Unless you're me, the RNG is always wierd with me. 02:47 that might not be on this level 02:47 <@Shadow_Rider> Arahael: Yes it was lol 02:47 but we have a decent stash location for the next minetown run 02:48 yeah 02:48 <@Shadow_Rider> I had 12 of them so I’d hope so 02:48 it was either that or tele tbqh 02:48 since it'd ID though you wanna see about IDing the rest of the stuff you can't like 02:48 dip-test or type-name based on where you found them 02:48 i dont need the harp or towel for a while right 02:49 harp you probably won't need 02:49 towel is fine 02:49 it's a blindfold but better 02:49 we have a blindfold somewhere 02:49 yeah but towels also let you wipe your hands and face 02:49 ah 02:49 Yeah, and you can wet them for other stuff 02:49 think Douglas Adams 02:50 Aw dangit 02:50 They're not a food source, though. 02:50 yeah i figured that was roughly the reference 02:50 wished the wooden shoes were good 02:50 yeah 02:50 ah well, more for the box 02:50 that would be too easy though 02:50 softens the spirit 02:50 true! 02:51 oh should i be trying the dwarvish ring mail 02:51 Nah 02:51 iron 02:51 right 02:51 you're good with the mithril elven stuff as is anyhow 02:51 True 02:51 basically the equivalent of elven mithril in vanilla 02:52 I usually beeline for those to fulfill my armor needs if I'm not casting too much 02:52 Mithril is one of the best anyway. 02:52 oh, don't forget the towel 02:52 once you're done anyway 02:52 ooh, broad pick 02:52 this run is pick city bc i killed and ate all those dwarves 02:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:15866 02:53 kind of grim 02:53 if you really think about it too much 02:53 that's D&D-derivative games for ya 02:53 shame priests have no skill in pick-axe 02:53 kind of a Treehouse of Horror vibe to this priestess 02:53 eh the skill hardly matters 02:53 most murderhobos in these games would be villains in any other 02:54 unless you want to use mattock as a weapon 02:54 that's what I was angling at aoei 02:54 OH 02:54 hol up 02:54 oh fair 02:54 #untrap is a thing 02:54 OH RIGHT 02:54 mattock is a pretty badass weapon actually 02:54 good call 02:54 and they go right in your inventory to boot! 02:54 yeah, so many commands it's easy to forget 02:54 what are we untrapping 02:54 i would be tempted to use them except we have 5 blessed daggers in the stash already 02:55 yeah I think we're alright projectilewise for now 02:55 all else fails we have sleep 02:55 speaking of i should be doing that 02:55 lel 02:55 but ye, memorizing commands is important for these 02:55 that's why I play SLEX to die instantly! 02:55 :D 02:55 OOH 02:55 hmmm. 02:56 i keep forgettring we have sleep 02:56 Ponies are solid pets but v. tricky to keep fed 02:56 eh, you can kill this one if you like 02:56 we're committed to dog anyway 02:56 true 02:56 also no penalties for eating horse meat 02:57 ...baw 02:57 didnt drop a corpse 02:57 that is one smashed up pony 02:57 maybe he just video game poofed 02:57 is this bat safe to finish 02:57 nah 02:57 k 02:57 passing out from first bite food is common, so the meal is USUALLY safe to finish 02:57 BUT 02:57 bat corpses stun you after you eat them 02:57 oh 02:57 *sigh*. I'm a man now. 02:58 so I tend to avoid them for that reason 02:58 yeah those are webs 02:58 using the same glyph as amulets is kinda thinking emoji honestly 02:58 yeah 02:58 says a lot about are society 02:59 Eh? 02:59 we sure do live in one 02:59 <@Shadow_Rider> Is there a way for me to check how many times I’ve dipped this god forsaken long sword into fountains 02:59 <@Shadow_Rider> I’d love to know 02:59 I wish, that'd be a laugh 02:59 wait where's your food 03:00 that was the bat 03:00 I mean in your inventory 03:00 its there 03:00 oh 03:00 just hyperfocused on stashing 03:00 youll see rn 03:00 fair! 03:00 yeah plus why waste a food ration when you have fresh meat 03:00 well not waste but burn through 03:01 better safe than sorry, is how I operate 03:01 im not at the skill level to go vegetarian yet 03:01 lol 03:01 I'd drop the short sword as well, priests in NH are the blunt weapons type 03:01 oh i skipped over it for some reaosn 03:02 When throwing stuff, does enchantment matter? 03:02 (When unskilled) 03:02 yeah, for damage 03:02 So I should absolutely enchant the shit out of this silver alkys, then. 03:02 +7, I'm guessing. 03:02 it's a melee weapon, why not 03:02 can you tame a homunculus 03:03 I don't use melee weapons, but I'll be throwing it. 03:03 I mean probably not THAT high but if you're maining it then go for it 03:03 uhhhh 03:03 Umbire: Monk, here. 03:03 Unless I get Mjollnir gifted to me or something, I won't be using a weapon... 03:04 Though I do have two staffs that were gifted. 03:04 <@Umby> some animals can be tamed with food 03:04 <@Umby> the rest you need that scroll or spell 03:04 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Elf Mal Law), 368 points, T:338, killed by a spore cloud 03:04 ah rite 03:04 F' 03:04 <@Umby> my net ate shit btw 03:04 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 03:05 <@Umby> there we go, back watching 03:05 rip was wonderinbh 03:05 theres fido 03:05 Enchagned my Silver Alkys to +5 :) 03:05 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest9389 03:05 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 03:06 dupe connection will timeout shortly 03:06 Also you can even name monsters 03:06 including tame ones 03:06 you cannot, however, pet them :c 03:07 <@Shadow_Rider> I’m wondering if I already generated Excalibur from a bones file but did not realize 03:07 Possible 03:07 did you SEE any bones? 03:07 <@Shadow_Rider> But it’s still named right? 03:07 <@Shadow_Rider> I’ve come across 3 03:07 <@Shadow_Rider> One was my samurai that did not have it 03:07 Any bags in those bones? 03:07 -!- Guest9389 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:07 <@Shadow_Rider> Another was an elf wizard 03:08 lol 03:08 <@Shadow_Rider> Ye I think I picked them all up tho 03:08 where's the dog 03:08 this elven fuck falling down the mine stairs 03:08 with all the crap 03:08 still up on that level theres more stash to collect upt htere 03:08 oh, you're still stashing 03:08 my b, carry on 03:08 np 03:08 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 magicbane", on T:18637 03:08 So the third is the most likely one to have spawned it 03:08 IF it spawned at all 03:08 How do you know the dead elf was a wizard 03:08 and not just a lucky cmor finder 03:09 comr* 03:09 <@Shadow_Rider> Lol 03:09 Uh oh. 03:09 oh boy 03:09 <@Shadow_Rider> I’m going to go check 03:09 i do have my harp 03:09 Our first thieving monster 03:09 nah monkeys stole some stuff in minetown 03:09 second 03:09 6_9 03:10 nymph are the worst though 03:10 you can put her to sleep proper at least though 03:10 Oh yeah! nymphs have names in this variant 03:10 man, hate a monster who tells you her name 03:10 as doo foocubi 03:11 seducing monsters introduce themselves now 03:11 ohshi--- 03:11 i guess it's only proper 03:11 Alright so 03:11 one of those potions is object detection 03:11 50% chance of a nymph spawning with one 03:11 BUT 03:11 nice 03:11 smoky potions also do something neat if you drink them 03:11 esp. while blessed 03:12 It isn't cursed lol 03:12 but bless it before you try to drink it 03:12 yeah for some reason i thought i could bless it 03:12 whenever that might be 03:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:6581 03:12 i guess theres something in the stash that will do that 03:12 Yerp 03:12 I think you got most everything desirable here 03:13 ah shit sold hte whistle 03:13 all good 03:13 oh he doesnt want to step over the cursed gear 03:13 pets can't walk past cursed items 03:13 ye 03:13 unless they're undead 03:13 fun 03:13 and then it depends 03:14 depending on the undead/variant it works in reverse 03:14 alright what are we getting out of the stash for that uh potion test 03:14 holy water 03:14 just the one potion 03:15 is the looking glass important i forget 03:15 it's a mirror 03:15 !rng coffee | tea | sleepyjuice | fightsans | other | be gay and do crimes while manic and sleep deprived 03:15 aoei: sleepyjuice 03:15 you can apply it to certain monsters to maybe scare them 03:15 apply it to nymphs and they'll steal that 03:15 and nothing else 03:15 so im #dip ping right 03:15 because lolvanity 03:15 Yeah 03:15 then you pick the smoky potion 03:16 does that just sit in the inventory until we are in an odd enough situation 03:16 <@Umby> well 03:16 <@Umby> you could drink test it now if you like 03:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:17 <@Umby> hopefully it's object detection, either is or isn't 03:17 i'll try it on DL2 then bc theres more stuff 03:17 <@Umby> and you can find that pesky vault! 03:17 <@Umby> good thinking 03:17 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 03:17 <@Shadow_Rider> Welp I rechecked all the bones that I’ve found 03:18 <@Shadow_Rider> Sadness 03:18 <@Umby> no cursed bags that might be holding to potentially uncurse 03:18 <@Umby> ? 03:18 <@Shadow_Rider> I got excited 03:18 <@Shadow_Rider> But it was a bag of tricks 03:18 <@Umby> D: 03:18 <@Umby> it bit you on looting I assume? 03:18 <@Shadow_Rider> I applied it 03:18 <@Umby> ah. 03:19 <@Umby> That you could pick it up to apply in the first place 03:19 <@Umby> yeah. 03:19 oh damnit 03:19 spiders must've spawned 03:19 Ooph! This tastes like liquid fire! 03:19 left webs all over 03:19 moment pls 03:19 k 03:20 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 03:20 Alright so 03:20 booze 03:20 <@Shadow_Rider> Holy f 03:20 it's booze lol 03:20 makes sense 03:20 <@Shadow_Rider> I just found it 03:20 oh finally Rider? 03:20 huh? 03:20 Where at? o: 03:20 <@Shadow_Rider> 3 bones files on the same minetown 03:20 lmfao 03:20 <@Shadow_Rider> It was two steps next to my bones 03:20 good ol' triple bones 03:20 <@Shadow_Rider> In a secret hallway 03:20 lmfaooooooooooooo 03:20 <@Shadow_Rider> Thank you guys so much 03:20 300% jebaited 03:20 NP! 03:21 oh forgot to bring a pick lol 03:21 lol RIP 03:21 theres the other stash though 03:21 think it's in that stash? 03:21 ye 03:21 there might be one 03:21 also ruby has to be object detection 03:21 can i name that from here 03:21 nope 03:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a darkwood staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:15771 03:21 you need to have an actual ruby potion 03:21 but we know for later 03:21 make a note and w'ell do it when we unify the stashes 03:21 bet 03:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:7422 03:22 oh yeah maybe time to retry that spellbook 03:22 arahael: think Huan's trying to tell ya somethin m8 03:22 Umbire: I just *mollified* him. 03:23 All that sac'ing. 03:23 sick 03:23 cure sickness nice 03:23 And he does what? Give me another crappy staff. 03:23 literally 03:23 no ruby 03:23 no thats downstairs 03:23 I know 03:23 this is the DL2 stash 03:23 ah 03:23 just hoping one was in this 03:24 yeah same 03:24 what I really want is for us to find a damn bag 03:24 preferably of holding, but anything'll do 03:24 *sigh*, and now I have TermIll. 03:24 D: 03:24 quick Rif lend him your book! 03:24 if only 03:25 Be a shame to use this lamp to wish up a blessed potion of healing. :( 03:25 You forgot the part where you drop your food lol 03:25 but nbd, prayer'll be ready again by the time we need it 03:25 (I hope) 03:25 ah heck 03:25 ? 03:25 Oooh, I have a unicorn horn! 03:26 i was hoping that was specific to garlic and wolfsbane is all 03:26 lol 03:26 my fault for not clarifying, but yeah, you have to have no food in inventory 03:26 and now to unburden ourselves finally 03:28 oh also also, potions like sleeping and such get ID'd when thrown and you watch their effects 03:28 yeah there were one or two of those earleir 03:28 okay we are just taking out a potion right 03:28 Yeah, the cursed ruby potion and maybe the towel for later 03:29 are we doing something with teh potion right now 03:29 object detection is a safe drink at any BUC 03:29 Woah. Ants nest, at least 6x6 in size (I can't see the far wall, so could be bigger). But it's... Fire ants... 03:29 oh cripes 03:29 Zesty 03:29 * Umbire pulls out a potion of bug spray 03:29 potion of raid 03:30 but yeah, cursed object detection (which I'm 90% sure this is) is still safe to drink 03:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:16302 03:30 the "catch" is that mimics are treated as actual items 03:30 (lol speaking of) 03:30 ah 03:30 should i use it on DL2 or what 03:31 yeah 03:31 we're vault hunting 03:31 and ON THAT NOTE 03:31 you wanna grab a pick-axe too 03:31 i guess i should ... yeah 03:31 also gonna have to go soon 03:31 no worries 03:31 wait, you have a pick-axe in the stash here don't you? 03:31 or no 03:31 i appreciate the help its been fun and ill be ready to switch to another game around then 03:31 nah 03:31 the one thing 03:31 oh fuck, we left it in Minetown 03:31 yeahhhhhhhhhhh 03:32 like 3 of them 03:32 i was already burdened 03:32 haha watchman has cursed gear 03:32 You barely need a pick outside the mines, anyway. 03:32 also i have enough pw to cast sleep like 4 times and the wand too 03:32 the question is whether to escalate to murder at this point 03:32 now 03:33 hmmmmmmmmmmm 03:33 good question. 03:33 hyeah its a thinker 03:33 i normally wouldnt consider it bc why bother for some watchmen but...getting that one pick out could be too much trouble otherwise, and minetown sucks in this run 03:33 you CAN if you want the rank-and-file grunts' gear 03:33 but you do NOT wanna be caught by the watch captain 03:34 is the gear likely to be worth it 03:34 it'll have gloves 03:34 and even basic gloves'll do ya good 03:34 okay 03:34 if they have wands you can take those too 03:34 this elf is a monster 03:34 preferably before you've been zapped 03:34 oh thats right one of them has a wand 03:34 they do? 03:34 D: 03:34 yeah one of them fired one at me it hink 03:34 striking? 03:34 i might just be thinking of the potion that got thrown 03:34 magmis? 03:35 not sure 03:35 it missed 03:35 oh yeah, potion 03:35 might be that 03:35 but yeah, even when you're lawful you'd be surprised at what you could get away with 03:35 blessed walkin' shoes 03:35 mithril whistle 03:35 you can also eat them since you're not human 03:35 but not wise at this stage 03:35 lol 03:35 i just went ahead adn didt it lmao 03:35 because that could've dropped you 03:36 aowiehf;aoisehf 03:36 all good! 03:36 whew 03:36 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 03:36 Hi Maud :B 03:36 this elf is the char who someone makes an evil suggestion and before they can say "but probably not" its "oh god damn it" 03:36 right? 03:36 unintentional roleplaying is fun 03:36 uh oh heres the capt 03:36 oop 03:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Arc Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8622 03:37 * arahael whispers to CNT-FAI: Now it's time to eat that pet. ;) (NO, "But probably not!") 03:37 should i just start throwing potions at some time 03:37 lolllll 03:37 we don't know which ones are safe to throw 03:37 Umbire: They're all safe to throw, surely? 03:37 (as in ones that would actually slow him down) 03:37 GET OUT 03:37 now 03:37 OH NO 03:37 IMMUNE TO SLEEP OMG 03:37 it's okay, you're an elf, you don't get sleepy 03:38 this looks deady 03:38 oh im alive 03:38 im not fast though hm 03:38 read tele 03:38 Woo! You survived, for now. But... Next turn might be your last. 03:38 oh this will work 03:38 you have to have one of those in there right? 03:38 also heal 03:38 im not sure i took any scrolls! 03:38 before something iron's thrown at you 03:38 i think i have barely enough time to heal and then i can run to the stairs 03:38 checking inventory is a free action 03:38 yep no scrolls but i do have a million potions 03:38 figures. 03:39 Any of those healing? 03:39 could give him the run around and grab the pick-axe 03:39 all unidentified except water 03:39 use sleep to slow him down 03:39 if i can hit him with sleep 03:39 yeah we've not ID'd much yet 03:39 Get on the other side of the dog. 03:39 OOF 03:39 Yeah, you can swap with the dog 03:39 dw 03:39 before the not enough energy message came up i hit the direction automatically 03:39 they won't attack the dog unless they attack them 03:40 Does this variant make that unreliable? (Eg, in evilhack, you don't always get to swap) 03:40 i can use teh wand though 03:40 er, the dog attacks the watchmen 03:40 i dont think any variant automatically lets you swap 100% of the time 03:40 CNT-FAI: At this point, you need to survive. 03:40 Not necessarily arahael 03:40 worked this time 03:40 It's same as vanilla, you don't always get to swap there either 03:40 they're just running with me 03:41 Nooo. 03:41 Too far. 03:41 the idea was to do an end run and then grab the pick axe 03:41 You messed that up. :( 03:41 The idea's to sleep them and use the time to make space 03:41 and get to the pick-axe 03:41 okay so this turn, am i pointing the wand of sleep at the captain 03:41 yes 03:41 Only option is sleep now. 03:42 Out of charges! 03:42 welp 03:42 i do have like 15 potions 03:42 Move up and right 03:42 That has to be a hall 03:42 i wish this dog were a little mroe violent 03:42 CNT-FAI: Actually no, you want that dog to hug you. 03:42 oh NO! 03:42 theres another officer here 03:42 HEAL HEAL HEAL now. 03:42 don't swap with the dog now. 03:43 okay so the dog blocks the captain 03:43 im thinking its throwing potions time 03:43 hopefully 03:43 i dont have sleep anymore, do i just rush the officer to the west here? Throw something? 03:43 I'd probably punt on sleep spell at the officer on the left. 03:44 i dont have the pw and the wand ran out of charges 03:44 so thats out unless one of those potions is restore mana and i guess right 03:44 er, whatever it's called 03:44 you can melee the normal watchmen 03:44 I'd probably throw those throwing stars at it until it's caught up with you - then melee. 03:45 iron weapon, and i'm in melee range 03:45 this has to work bc the captain is close 03:45 dog notwithstanding 03:45 Got a stetho? 03:45 well, thankfully i have another heal or two 03:45 nah 03:45 i do have a harp 03:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:46 oof, cutting it close now 03:46 Don't think noise works on soldiers. 03:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:46 what is the downside to throwing potions anyway? that i'll splash on me? 03:46 it'll* 03:46 Yes, and they often miss. 03:47 If you had identified a sleep or paralysis potion, you could weild it. 03:47 identify has been scarce 03:47 more so no scroll shops to price ID with 03:47 that also 03:47 I'd probably swap with the dog. Heal, then swap back. 03:47 low on mana, no known gain energy 03:47 Being very careful of that captain... 03:47 this is my last heal 03:48 and i'm already getting sliced up by the regular officer 03:48 I'm not suggesting you go against the captain. 03:48 I don't think you have the energy but try it anyway, the watchmen have the same move speed as you 03:48 Got a wand of dig? 03:48 again, no 03:48 damnit dog! 03:48 Oof. 03:49 a;sdigohaoewgi there you go, can't necessarily switch with the pet 03:49 i *do* have the energy for *one* heal 03:49 Best to use it now 03:49 He might clip you if you try to step away 03:49 She* 03:49 didnt get much 03:49 well we are in drink random potions time right? 03:49 Might just have to mace her and hope she gets the message 03:49 one of those two 03:50 Maybe. I'd punt on wacking it, but potions could work, anything's a gamble at this point. You're basically long dead already, long ago. 03:50 true 03:50 they're already peeved at you, killing a couple of them won't make much diff. there 03:50 Elbereth doesn't work in this game, does it? 03:50 Not against soldiers. 03:50 ...yes it does? 03:50 Woah!? It does? 03:50 But they're @ so it's moot 03:50 you've played too much evil lmfao 03:50 yeah you guys are saying the same thing but it sounds like two different things bc your'e tired 03:51 okay i'm going with potion then mace 03:51 CNT-FAI: And as Umbire has pointed out twice - I'm used to evil. 03:51 good luck 03:51 card counting logic 03:51 is the God happy? 03:51 given the potions we've already identified, it's not terribly unlikely that one of these potions is good 03:51 yes actually 03:51 Health is too high now, though. 03:51 should i just pray first 03:51 oh yeah, prayer is a last resort if our health is low enough 03:51 oh okay 03:51 Health isn't low enough though. 03:51 I think aos raised the threshold for it 03:51 so that's the next move 03:51 alright here we go 03:51 lemme check 03:51 Unless they've hcan... Interesting? aos changed it? 03:52 you said that just in time i wsa about to hit q 03:53 Seems to be the same 03:53 pray then quaff, or vice versa? 03:53 CNT-FAI: You're on your last turn. 03:53 gotcha 03:54 bam 03:54 Astonishing. 03:54 Wack-wack-wack now. 03:54 what a game 03:54 You have a new shield now. 03:55 white goddamn unicorn 03:55 Leave that unicorn for now... 03:55 we'll see if i get the option 03:55 White unicorn is awesome for you to kill, but you have more important things to worry about. 03:55 And your HP is too low to consider it anyway. 03:55 true 03:55 But you'll eventually want the horn. 03:55 So just take a note that the unicorn is in minetown. :) 03:57 wait so we're not dead! 03:57 ... 03:57 nah another unicorn attacked and we're about to die 03:57 WHEW 03:57 get away from it 03:57 is that even possible 03:57 oh yeah it is 03:57 yes 03:57 long as you don't get near it, it won't actively attack you 03:58 even hostile unicorns stay like a knight's jump away 03:58 okay i've done the end run and i have the silver pick 03:58 get the hell back to the upstair seems to be the plan 03:58 whew 03:58 hopefully that is possible 03:58 bc I'm betting that's the only hall to the room with the downstair 03:58 so how'd you get out of that sticky sitch earlier 03:59 well the dwarves carved one earlier 03:59 but i just ran straight through town 03:59 managed to close one door on the way through but the watch opened it 03:59 and the captain has a key as we discovered 03:59 Umbire: Prayer somehow worked. 04:00 Yeah I think the HP threshold was raised 04:00 but I didn't see anything indicating it on the xNetHack article 04:00 i got full HP and the watchman's hand was stayed and then i was able to kill him 04:00 figure that out later... 04:00 theoretically, it SEEMS possible to run through the dwarf tunnel. i have the pick now so that might be the way out 04:01 Digging takes turns, though 04:01 yeah 04:01 CNT-FAI: Unless the watch is next to you, you should be able to get away from the unicorn quite easily, again, noting, that they move in knights movements. 04:01 But you could squeeze past the boulders 04:01 thats what i did to get here 04:01 ah 04:01 so yeah 04:01 so then it's a long hallway back 04:01 but is it better to take the dwarf tunnel north 04:01 Where are you anwyay? I can only see the menu. 04:01 unless you dig through the wall 04:01 no im in the west 04:01 west end 04:01 Ah. Heal? 04:01 i can dig through the wall i just dont know what the next move is 04:02 get back to the upstai 04:02 uh oh 04:02 upstair* 04:02 swirly's acid btw 04:02 Why don't you heal? 04:02 lol whelp 04:02 yeah 04:02 thankfully it was blessed 04:02 or else that would've killed you 04:02 Worth digging down? 04:02 so wait am i squeezing back through teh boulders and running straight through town again or taking the dwarf tunnel up north 04:03 or yeah digging down and finding a < 04:03 Though the levels below minetown are significantly harder. 04:03 So it's still a wash. 04:03 Digging down just makes a hole you can drop through 04:03 but are they harder in a way where i'm getting chased down by intelligent beings 04:03 Potentially. 04:03 I don't think anything below hurts like that captain just yet but that's not a gamble I wanna take atm 04:03 okay 04:03 If something finds a polymorph trap we're hosed 04:04 so what was the verdict, streets or tunnel 04:04 I'm thinking north tunnel 04:04 Got a light source? 04:04 yeah same 04:04 I'd light it. 04:04 dig in part way through 04:04 and then use the openness of the town to lose the cap'n 04:04 LIGHT IT. 04:04 light what 04:04 nope i stashed it lmao 04:04 4Head 04:04 :( 04:05 Where'd you lose the captain? 04:05 knowing where they might be is importante here 04:05 in the path i was in before when it looked like i was gonna die, with the dog and the other watchman 04:05 ah 04:05 but at least oen of them likely chased me through the middle of the town 04:06 because i heard a door open after i closed it 04:06 right 04:06 and i killed the watchman 04:06 so the tunnel MIGHT be safe 04:06 yeah 04:06 the second we see green @ we 180 though 04:06 also where's the dog 04:06 oh there's the dog 04:06 wow 04:06 mission clear! 04:06 she fuckin made it 04:07 what a wild lass 04:07 Amazing. 04:08 If you have a lightsource in that stash, take it! 04:08 They're invaluable in these tight spots. 04:08 huh i thought i ha da candle in there 04:08 I think you stashed it on DL2 04:08 ah 04:08 Though, St:12 is a bit low, so, a bit tricky. 04:08 not like we'll need it where we're going anyway 04:08 yeah 04:08 ...where are we going 04:08 a. 04:08 that was gonna be my next question 04:09 *Ha. 04:09 Probably soko? 04:09 I guess we go deeper in the main branch 04:09 and see if we don't find that 04:09 Once we replace our armor 04:09 oh did you ever find that robe? 04:09 Also walking shoes are just normal low boots 04:09 no X< 04:09 mithril still looking superior 04:10 Those eggs never hatched, did they? 04:10 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 cloak of protection", on T:31673 04:10 I think we're as set as we're ever gonna be 04:10 no 04:10 oh yeah no lol 04:10 you can use them as improvised weapons 04:10 ofc that slipped my mind in the entire fracas 04:10 just like real life 04:10 yeah, they wouldn't have been that effective though 04:10 STR-based damage on the throw tho 04:10 so they would've done a tiny bit of something 04:11 do i need to drop more items 04:11 neh 04:12 so on to Sokoban 04:12 I'll brb and clean up my room some 04:12 np 04:12 thanks for all the help it's been a fun collaborative project so far 04:13 back lol 04:13 oh, switch to the pickaxe if you see a werefoo 04:13 oh right silver 04:13 ye 04:13 also quaff the ruby 04:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 270 points, T:1077, killed by a gas spore's explosion 04:14 i must have stashed it again 04:14 6_9 04:14 nbd 04:14 yeah 04:14 hmm might be to the south of ya 04:14 ...okay. 04:15 It's not here. 04:15 It is entirely, with a non-zero chance, possible that you might've dug a perfect square around the vault. 04:15 Up northeast. 04:15 Hungry though, thinking of putting it off one more time 04:15 ...actually forget I said that 04:15 that's a 3x3 section 04:16 You would've hit a wall 04:16 SO WHERE THE FUCK IS IT 04:16 just west of the @ rn? 04:16 no 04:16 south of that one tunnel that doesn't go very far south? 04:16 I was looking at the NE section but it's not likely to be there either 04:16 to paint (again) 04:17 has to be a 4x4 area... 04:18 there's just over 4 tiels of N-S space in that area i mentioned 04:18 the room below me rn, compare that to the room over to the east from it 04:20 Alright so gimme a sec 04:20 np i need a sec anyway 04:20 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823108827633025054/putty_Ujc86y3DsV.png 04:20 That's the first spot I was thinking 04:21 The vault is its own room 04:21 And the square is tailored to 4x4 on TTY 04:22 generation shouldn't overlap with hallways 04:23 that's exactly the spot im referring to, that's a tunnel 04:24 <@Umby> Oh 04:24 no sorry you're right is a hallway 04:24 <@Umby> I somehow wasn't sure 6_9 04:24 <@Umby> But like under it 04:24 You dug that tunnel 04:24 So it's possible you just missed it in doing so 04:24 well, i didnt actually dig to teh south of it 04:24 in that part 04:24 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823109900292325376/unknown.png 04:24 the question is do i go over there right now and dig or do i put it off again and go down to sokoban 04:25 yeah thats the tunnel area 04:25 Woah. Now I badly need reflection. 04:25 so those squares are where it has to be 04:25 Black dragon. 04:25 I'd go to soko first tho 04:25 oh boy howdy 04:25 okay 04:25 good luck with that one 04:25 Food is the priority 04:25 just hop on over to my gamea nd make a chaotic trade 04:25 Then we can return with the location of the vault narrowed down 04:26 alright here we fuggin go 04:26 Alright, watching the term again 04:27 If worst comes to, eat both eggs first 04:27 though they're likely rotten by now they'll at least buy us a little time 04:27 that corpse's likely poofed by now 04:28 haha fuck 04:28 oh right, another pick-axe. 04:28 ... 04:28 we could've gone right here for the pick 04:28 auio;ewhgoasueifhiaeson 04:28 but we have silver now for werethings 04:28 what is wrong with us? 04:28 but damn 04:28 orz 04:28 i swear this side of DL3 just evaporated from my memory 04:28 right 04:28 ANYWAY. 04:28 your turn on the brain cell 04:29 i bet thats where the robe is 04:29 I don't seem to be using it right 04:29 Piles of items are highlighted 04:29 oh cool 04:30 you were right the first time 04:31 <@Umby> hunger problem solved for the moment 04:31 back to weak now 04:31 <@Umby> oh 04:31 <@Umby> hold on 04:31 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 04:31 are the rotten eggs really that helpful or should i just drop em and pray 04:32 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest51127 04:32 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 04:32 Terminal's reset 04:32 I'd eat them just to keep out of "weak" for a bit longer 04:32 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 04:32 man that is gross to imagine 04:32 there's the robe 04:32 right? 04:32 and yet another pick-axe 04:33 this thing's just making fun of us now :/ 04:33 CNT-FAI: Plenty of people eat raw eggs in real life. The ones you get in the store are already a week old. 04:33 I was gonna suggest the blindfold/towel to scout for monsters using your telepathy 04:33 yeah i know its a thing but ew 04:33 also spellcasting makes you hungry 04:34 sure 04:34 unless you have high enough INT for hungerless 04:34 Hungerless spellcasting is a wizard-only thing. 04:34 Or is it? 04:34 -!- Guest51127 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:34 ^ 04:34 also that 04:34 Right. 04:34 Umbire: Your guest left. 04:34 bad time to be blind rn 04:34 yeah 04:34 that's the nausa kicking in 04:34 yep 04:35 see if you can at least get close to the stairs 04:35 fuck 04:35 NO 04:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Elf Fem Cha) murdered Pick City, her faithful little dog, on T:10892 04:35 I don't think prayer's an option anymore 04:35 might as well just eat what remaining food we have, avoid fainting anymore 04:36 Umbire: On an unrelated matter with my game... Reflection's the *only* way to survive a black dragon or a wand of death, right? 04:36 MR lets you live death rays 04:36 id normally think that, but i built up a *lot* of luck and deity love 04:36 hmm, eat the garlic first if anything 04:36 then get to the tree and kick it 04:37 fuck fuck fuck 04:37 Oof. Bees. 04:37 sounds bee-y 04:37 blasted comedy of errors right now 04:37 is prayer like actively bad rn? isnt the first one that goes south just like, hey you little snot stop bothering me 04:37 I didn't hear thunder 04:38 so your luck might've buoyed you a little, hopefully 04:38 now's not yet the time though 04:38 CNT-FAI: You're chaotic though. So once you've irriated your God, it's tough. 04:38 to the stairs 04:38 ah 04:38 upstairs 04:38 there 04:38 ah 04:38 no monsters = we're safe to eat tripe and give yourself a bit more time to think 04:39 just [s] it out 04:39 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:22064 04:39 no hostiles to worry about yet anyway 04:39 Alright 04:39 And we can see now 04:39 yay 04:39 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:32627 04:39 just in time to meet hte wood nymph 04:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 fixed dragonbane", on T:19890 04:39 who is easy pickings 04:39 unless we hack this up 04:40 oo 04:40 hey! 04:40 Hello CNT-FAI, Welcome to #hardfought 04:40 food detecter 04:40 thank you beholder 04:40 lol 04:40 so the question is do i quaff it here or downstairs 04:40 downstairs if you like 04:40 blessed object detection treats items as if you'd handled them personally 04:41 i.e. you see their identity if you use the instructions to look them over 04:41 as in label, color, etc. 04:41 oh that left a corpse 04:41 wow, none of that is food 04:41 wouldn't have given you much anyway though 04:41 except an old piercer corpse 04:41 You know what IS food though? 04:41 That dwarf. 04:41 ttrue 04:41 8] 04:41 Also that white unicorn. But I'd go for the dwarf first. 04:42 OH FUCK OFF 04:42 right 04:42 gonna have to kick the tree again 04:42 Still a little low to hit unicorns though, though the aC is improving. 04:42 oh yeah orc 04:42 Oh sheesh lmao 04:42 bad luck, this one 04:43 Woah. 04:43 cursed, v. rusty, corroded 04:43 No corpse, but lichen just right there? Woah. 04:43 no orc corpse, but lichen works just as well 04:43 rust trips i think 04:43 yeah wild 04:43 should i try ther ing 04:43 nah, I think we're okay for now 04:43 can at least try to find the downstair 04:43 uni is less risky 04:43 OH 04:44 I thought you meant the "thing" 04:44 with the tree 04:44 somehow 04:44 6_9 04:44 oh lol 04:44 mb 04:44 Yeah go ahead 04:44 hell ye 04:44 eyyyyyy 04:44 more carry room for us 04:44 and puts us over elf's con cap of 16 04:44 rabid=unsafe to eat? 04:44 naturally 04:45 wait 04:45 far look that u 04:45 ohhhhhh 04:45 oh it's just a pony statue 6_9 04:45 we detected it as an item 04:45 that does make more sense 04:45 we are very smart! 04:45 oh, if something in the wall 04:45 (right on cue) 04:46 poofs when you move next to it like that 04:46 that means it's buried in the floor 04:46 ohhhh 04:46 digging down on the square lets you at the stuff 04:46 one dig just makes a regular pit 04:46 two makes a hole 04:46 Oh, do you have gloves on? 04:47 no 04:47 hm, guess the lockpick just didn't sting that time 04:47 lucky pick 04:47 breaking statues just makes rocks 04:47 well there are spellbooks sometimes 04:47 so says nethackwiki 04:47 was just about to mention that! 04:47 yeah 04:47 just not in this one though 04:47 like i said, beat larn on palm :D 04:47 :D 04:48 i think maybe picking a chest is just less time exposed to the metal than picking a door 04:48 yeah 04:48 at least taht's kinda how my sensory sensitivities work irl 04:48 yeah if you do it in like one turn then it's 04:48 a non-issue 04:48 if it takes more than one 04:48 * Umbire gestures at minetown 04:49 haha 04:49 oh yeah some corpses are acidic be careful with those 04:49 ooh an actual unicorn 04:49 time for it to die! 04:49 not too bad on balance 6 hp vs all the casting we're doing 04:49 also, that there Q is another elf 04:49 aosdict moved them to Quendi 04:49 CNT-FAI: As an important tip: If it's an aligned unicorn, *don't* kill it. 04:49 It's gray, so neutral 04:49 Indeed. 04:49 i.e. totally kill it 04:50 Indeed. 04:50 And then eat it. 04:50 problem here 04:50 is reflecting a sleep ray off the walls 04:50 was thinking id cast sleep but the knight chess thing 04:50 maybe i throw apotion 04:50 nah 04:50 CNT-FAI: Unicorns have a unicorn horn. 04:50 knight's move away = out of throwing/sleeping range 04:50 what are you saying ara 04:50 they can't use it if they're asleep 4Head 04:50 BUT... 04:50 ider what that does 04:51 CNT-FAI: So anything that causes them to become sick, or wahtever, causes the tip to glow. And they fix themselves right up. 04:51 ahhhh 04:51 sleep puts them out of commission so they CAN'T use it 04:51 Umbire: Sure, doesnt do anything about them getting asleep, but Id on't think they can. They have pretty good resistances as well? 04:51 but they have p. high monster MR anyway 04:51 Right... 04:51 so good luck getting a sleep ray to even stick 04:52 Can still try it, just know that risk 04:52 What happened to that Q? 04:52 just wanderd away 04:52 Fucked off into a hallway 04:52 lol 04:52 it's an elf so they're peaceful 04:52 Ah, because CNT is an elf. 04:52 arahael: see above for the explanation 04:52 ye 04:52 lol 04:52 lol 04:53 okay so this is a bit of a tactical bind 04:53 alright, try to close in and smack it again 04:53 i'll do that but that's going to open up a question of whether or not to heal real quic 04:53 step away 04:53 heal 04:54 or sleep it again 04:54 my b lol 04:54 it's still in the corner though t 04:54 DAMNIT 04:54 well that was the shot, it just resists 04:54 Just run to the tree for food 04:54 that wasn't a resist 04:54 kinda considering trying a random potion 04:54 it just plain missed 04:54 stupid unicorn AC 04:54 Oh 04:54 uh, just pray now 04:55 good, was gonna remind you 04:55 uh oh 04:55 uh oh. 04:55 I don't think we make it in time... 04:55 and we're out of options besides rando potions 04:55 hope one is fruit juice 04:55 i heard throw down some potions like they're tropicana 04:56 monster detection 04:56 alright, we now know there is no food here 04:56 (lol unicorns can teleport btw) 04:56 ah right 04:56 next 04:56 they're magical and very gay creatures 04:56 There's that p. 04:56 Too far, though. 04:56 piercers are too insubstantial 04:56 we'd lose more nutrition trying to get to it 04:56 and may not even drop meat 04:56 healing, disappointment 04:56 It's weird that there's so much food issues in CNT's game. 04:56 would've liked to know that earlier 04:57 at least the max hp is slightly higher in case..you know...i don't die somehow 04:57 Well we did spend far too much time digging tbf 04:57 Hopefully one potion is beer. 04:57 nah that's been ID'ed 04:57 Umbire: Indeed. 04:57 but hey ho it's a learning experience 04:57 and it's been a fun one! 04:57 smoky booze btw arahael 04:57 Ooh. 04:57 YO 04:57 Nice. 04:57 pog? 04:57 no it could be like 04:57 see invisible 04:57 they have the same message 04:57 oh right tastes *like* juice 04:58 it's just a delicious ass elixir 04:58 golden juice(?) is what I'd call it 04:58 since no way to know atm 04:58 shit, might've been see invis 04:58 cruel, cruel fat 04:58 fate* 04:58 fuck 04:58 sickness 04:58 well at least we'll die floating ig 04:59 the irnoic part is the sickness isn't the part that'll kill me 04:59 Now you can't even pick up food if you find it. 04:59 it's the necessity to cast cure sickness 04:59 you would wish 04:59 lmao 04:59 that it killed outy 04:59 also it doesn't cure stat loss from potion quaffing 04:59 just food poisoning 04:59 4 is...not good 05:00 no clear effect that I saw 05:00 lol 05:00 we are so unbelievably hosed 05:00 i think it's just try not to die scrambling to the tree now 05:00 like Arizona 05:00 all we CAN do 05:00 kick away 05:00 if i can even kick 05:01 GO GO GO 05:01 how are we still alive 05:01 this is an insane run 05:01 ANYWAY 05:01 fuck the unicorn, just find some damn stairs! 05:01 Anshar being displeased is probably due to bad luck 05:01 hoping theres a Dungeon Mcdonalds 05:02 which'll hopefully time out by the time we find stairs/food 05:02 oh the unicorn may wish to fuck me 05:02 It's certainly trying 05:02 come on stairs 05:02 come on food 05:02 well, without casting spells, i might actually find stairs before dying 05:02 YES 05:02 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:37229 05:03 woah 05:03 that's a nice looking weapon 05:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] ArkhamDenizen (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:96 05:03 is a flail a differetn skill 05:03 shame we're on the verge of death 05:03 Yeah 05:03 but it's one you can train 05:03 I think priests get expert in flail 05:03 also STOP 05:03 stopped 05:03 put on the towel. 05:03 oh yeah 05:03 Oracle level 05:03 There's some d 05:04 farlook and see what all those are 05:04 She wants the d 05:04 because jackals are filling 05:04 f is some kinda feline but what... 05:04 the big cats are good eating but they also Hurt 05:04 would be nice to have that tripe ration but i geuss tahts how im not dead now 05:04 yeah 05:04 counting our blessings as it were 05:05 o 05:05 zombies are mindless so couldn't see them lol 05:05 oh so like 05:05 may as well eat the cat, you already have aggravate monster 05:05 at this point is that platinum flail better than the +2 everythinged mace 05:05 it might not be better 05:05 esp. since you have expert in mace 05:06 but it's a worthy secondary 05:06 uh 05:06 FUCK 05:06 fuck 05:06 also who's that @ 05:06 Is that @ an NPC? 05:06 before i find out 05:06 soldier ants are the LAST thing we want to see right now 05:06 i just wnat to take a second to note that even irl the soldier ant can only be countered with a moat of fire 05:07 and even that is more of a "meh, i won't bother eating this human" 05:07 oh lord you've gotten real soldier ants in your house? 05:07 I'd step back so that only one 'd' can attack you, then consider fighting the 'a', or run 05:07 Yeah 05:07 no 05:07 whatever you do 05:07 at least see what that @ is 05:07 i have made it my life's goal to never be within 2 continents of htem 05:07 might be a soldier 05:08 oh, wererat 05:08 haha 05:08 my question 05:08 yeah it's either get away from the jackals or risk being surrounded 05:08 is there any chance the un IDed scroll does something good 05:08 which in NH is often a death sentence 05:08 it can just as easily do something not good 05:08 or not applicable 05:08 you're full-health, you just ate 05:08 you have options 05:08 best one would be to sleep the soldier ant 05:09 pray it hits 05:09 try it again 05:09 Alright 05:09 Lucky. 05:09 back outta there 05:09 towards the stairs 05:09 Now I'd probably identify that @, then run. 05:09 It's a wererat 05:09 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:34151 05:09 Ah, easy. 05:10 No... 05:10 back away one more s-- 05:10 Yeah... 05:10 well only one enemy at a time at least 05:10 Right... Basic strategy. 05:10 get upstairs 05:10 heal and get upstairs 05:10 That was just lucky. 05:10 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:34154 05:10 speaking of luck 05:11 heal, then make the Elbereth in the dust once you move downstairs 05:11 hope it sticks... 05:11 YES 05:11 Now use [:] 05:12 see if the engraving quality remains 05:12 free action, dw 05:12 alright, hang on that for a while 05:12 [s], [.], w/e 05:12 it won't work on the wererat while they're human 05:12 but you can step off it and kill them ez 05:12 step off 05:12 kill the jackal 05:12 eat it 05:13 sleep him 05:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Enchanter, on T:37353 05:13 one more try 05:13 *Don't* attack whilst on the E. 05:13 it was already scuffed when we killed the jackal 05:13 kill it if you can--- 05:13 oh man 05:13 there's a second one 05:13 of course there's more 05:13 feel like i nee dto read the scroll at first 05:13 there's always more 05:14 well 05:14 if i survive this spacebar 05:14 nope 05:14 fuck me running 05:14 Umbire: Question about eating cats... If you find a Quantum Mechanic and they have a box with a cat in it, is it alive or dead, and if it's dead, is it a bad idea to eat it? 05:14 that was a hell of a flat out desperation run though 05:14 it's a bad idea to eat cats in general 05:14 unless orc or caveman 05:14 SON OF A BITCH 05:14 A SCROLL OF SCARE FUCKING MONSTER 05:14 how many times did i suggest reading that scroll 05:14 lmao 05:15 CNT-FAI: You don't read it. 05:15 😂🔫 05:15 reading it would've saved her ass though! 05:15 it's a lesson about questioning my instincts 05:15 CNT-FAI: You bless it, always, and then drop it when you need to scare monsters away. Stand on it. 05:15 ahhhhhh 05:15 reading it works too, arahael 05:15 once 05:15 but that ALSO is a thing you can do 05:15 and is preferable to reading 05:15 Umbire: Yes, but not nearly the same way - not nearly as good. 05:15 assuming you KNOW YOU EVEN FUCKING HAVE IT 05:16 Well, if you've done soko, you'd know it. 05:16 dying with 4 worthless pieces of glass feels right 05:16 if we'd GOTTEN there 05:16 the words "desparate measures" come to mind? 05:16 that was fun to stumble through, all hindsight aside 05:16 Heh, indeed. 05:16 Way too much digging though. 05:16 lots of lessons learned 05:17 (oh yeah, forgot to mention, you can actually set your sexuality in the config rc 05:17 in xNet and some others) 05:17 okay i was wondering 05:17 we actually killed a soldier ant 05:17 I changed my gender in this game. 05:18 that's more than some irl armies could hope for 05:18 context: amulet of change, one of the amulets that mostly generates cursed 05:18 ahhhh 05:18 you can indeed trans your gender in nethack 05:18 ~~but you can't pet a bloody dog~~ 05:18 haha 05:18 Umbire: Rather disturbing that changine one's gender is an *accident*. 05:19 Also rather disturbing how there's no pants, anywhere. 05:19 magic pants 05:19 you don't stone from sitting on c corpses 05:19 eh, pants are a modern puffery 05:19 it's gonna be official in a moment but 05:20 (keep going through the dump log) 05:20 the soldier ant was badly wounded 05:21 so close to killing 2 in a single game 05:21 yeah Rif that gets added to dumplogs and such now 05:21 i like that a lot 05:21 you can actually see how wounded a monster is if you farlook them as a Healer now 05:21 Umbire: Interestingp oint. 05:21 in 3.7 (which xNH pulls from) 05:21 oh, final touch! 05:21 you get to write your own epitaph 05:22 IF that leaves bones, someone else might see it! 05:22 That's too boring! 05:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 7501 points, T:11550, killed by a badly wounded soldier ant, while fainted from lack of food 05:22 CNT-FAI: Your personality is anything but that toxic! 05:22 Officially now 05:22 Go team a! 05:22 thank you, but that elf is another story 05:23 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Team_a 05:24 So rif what time you usually on? 05:24 wanna see if I can catch another run/show you bits of my run 05:25 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 05:25 it's currenlty 5+ here, i got woken up at 9:30 by the neighbor's music so i've been up...20 hours 05:25 i havne't decided whehter to start one 05:26 -!- dopplergange has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:26 eh, i could watch one 05:26 +10 here. +11, actually, I think. Should check if daylight savings is still on. 05:27 idw like click on a bunch of stuff though 05:27 -!- dopplergange has joined #hardfought 05:27 are you talking about doing some turns live 05:30 Wait 05:30 you're an east coaster too? 05:30 now I can't yell at you to sleep without being hypocritical D: 05:31 but yeah, I was thinking we could watch each other's runs more whenever you came back around 05:32 me and my mom's sleep was ruined by spring forward and I haven't been given grief for not trying to sleep so 05:32 CNT-FAI: I might have a bit of time rn! 05:32 being yelled at to sleep is counterproductivef or me anywya 05:32 but yeah fire it up 05:32 Oh, man. Invisible Nazgul. 05:33 probably put on its guaranteed ring 05:33 CNT-FAI: if you haven't gleaned by now evilhack is Some Shit 05:33 Yep. I have see invis, at least. 05:33 idk anything about it 05:33 whipped up by our very own K2 05:33 But it's scream has disoriented me. 05:33 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack if you want 05:34 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Chevaliere, on T:35524 05:34 I _think_ I can point a wand downwards to dig out. 05:34 oh jeez more difficult to win than vanilla fuck me 05:34 Right into medusa. 05:34 what was CNT-FAI anyway? was it the anarchists? 05:34 yeah 05:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 584 points, T:2237, killed by a rothe, while praying 05:34 I'm still on my first EvilHack run 05:34 almost got eaten by a DL3 giant spider 05:35 but yeah, once I wash up a bit I'll try to resume my xnh game 05:35 it was one of those factions where not everyone was necessarily in full ideological agreement, they just had to be committed to the end goal 05:35 Umbire: :) EvilHack is addictive. 05:35 not that full agreement is necessary anyway, but that trips lefties up so much 05:35 defeat of Francoist traitors? 05:36 source: hangs out with them often, basically am one at this point 05:36 I'm not the most historically savvy though 05:36 (yet) 05:36 yeah, IWW has a very low percentage of true believers, and they're not necessarily the most popular members 05:37 Black Rose is currently imploding because there's too much concern for defending the org against all perceived enemies and not enough love of criticism 05:37 self-crit is another thing that just 05:37 dogwalks people 05:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2052 points, T:2568, killed by a boulder 05:37 like constantly 05:37 yeahhhhhhhhhhh 05:38 I on the other hand am too self-critical to the point it risks crumbling my self-esteem if I don't watch it 05:38 :3 05:38 a LOT of today's anarchist tactics actually come from midcentury-to-80s maoists 05:38 huh. 05:38 would explain a bit 05:38 self crit is the main example AFAIK 05:39 didn't help that a bunch of them got co-opted as well if I recall what I heard about overseas stuff correctly 05:39 but in any event 05:39 the rest of me isn't gonna wash itself up 05:39 cooptation is always lurking 05:39 (would that I were so fortunate) 05:39 be back soon! 05:40 -!- dopplerg- has joined #hardfought 05:40 this a doppleganger bit or something? 05:40 anyway hi new person you caught me just as I was stepping AFK 05:40 -!- dopplergange has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:40 baw. 05:40 anyway time to stop being sidetracked 6_9 05:41 i'm tempted to try slashthem 05:42 that's not an attempt to distract anyone im just thinking out loud 05:43 the novelty of having guns in a roguelike is embarrassingly capable of drawing me in for a long time 05:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 63 points, T:554, killed by an uninjured fox 05:45 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:45 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:45 oh i guess they removed the guns, which is probably smart 05:46 I'm currently fighting medusa. It's hard. 05:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22395 05:47 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36672 05:47 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36677 05:48 SLEM is a SLEX variant the dials back a lot of the weird from SLEX/SLASH'EM 05:48 which Amy takes issue with, SLEX specifically is her baby after all 05:49 ahhh 05:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:49 Mind you, it seems SLEX is _weird_. WTF "high heels" skill? I'll have to try it, if I try another variant, it'll probably be SLEX. 05:50 It's VERY weird 05:50 but then Amy is a very weird person 05:50 seems right 05:50 which isn't a pejorative mind 05:50 vanilla is the kind of game that if i knew the creator personally i probably would be in prison for murder today 05:50 but it can reasonably throw people for a loop 05:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:38598 05:51 CNT-FAI: How so? 05:51 it's a "fiendishly hard" kinda quip 05:51 partially 05:51 think "the dark souls of x" jokes but actually funny 05:52 but there are other fiendishly hard games, i probably wouldn't kill over dark souls 05:52 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:36883 05:52 speaking of SLEX I have some troping to do 05:52 it's more that it's simultaneously positioning itself as above other games with more consistent internal philosophy, etc 05:52 (and yes, I do troping now and then 05:52 trust that I know all about TVT and its mess) 05:53 What's "trouping"? 05:53 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:53 not a typo 05:53 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 05:53 and has a very rough mix of nerdy scout leader energy and pure contempt for the player 05:53 it's basically the killer game master you knew in middle school 05:53 Man. This is the first time I went to the ice-queen's branch... To *recover*. 05:53 but in code form 05:54 am I in the ballpark there Rif? 05:54 i like to think i have above average tolerance for one of those at a time, but i was pissed when i found out you had to like, know actual facts about the resonance of harp music to win 05:54 and yeah that's a lot of it 05:54 tehre's more charm to the killer gm when he's a person 05:54 you can ascend not knowing half of the shit in the game even exists in all fairness 05:55 like i enjoy watching hockey quite a bit, which has more raw contempt for each and every player than possibly any other sport with similar levels of armor 05:55 but there is a human touch 05:55 Football is a close second 05:55 *American football 05:56 yeah, any sport that has *entirely self contained* bare knuckle boxing is a shit job for real and there's something to just being open with everyone that we all hate these people and enjoy seeing them suffer 05:56 the entire sport of bare knuckle boxing is reproduced inside the rules of hockey, you really gotta hate some dudes 05:56 and/or enjoy seeing tests of skill and endurance in their "rawest" form 05:56 not that I disagree, good 50% of it minimum is p. much that 05:56 it's fitting for the industrial age 05:57 mmmmmhm 05:57 btw 05:57 arahael: http://allthetropes.org/wiki/NetHack 05:57 ^trope page for Nethack 05:57 there's a "Christ, you haven't died yet?" element to each game 05:57 it's kinda turned into my baby on account of there's not many people on this fork just yet 05:57 and I've tried to update as much as I can 05:58 also, nethack is almost exactly 1 year younger than me and i haven't gotten along with a lot fo people who were exactly 1 year younger than me 05:59 what I'm getting from this is that you are much older than me but the math has not fully processed 05:59 lol @ "can take up to a decade to beat for the first time" 05:59 by at least 4 years 06:00 I mean it CAN 06:00 Nice. 06:00 it's the "up to" that's funny 06:00 took me a couple of years to ascend my mobile port run 06:00 i must have played my first game of vanilla nh in 1998 at the latest 06:01 i never got more than like maybe 10% in until nethackwiki 06:01 imagine ascending unspoiled 06:01 the deity in flesh you'd have to be 06:01 yeah 06:01 the people who did that knew it too and rubbed your face in it all the time 06:01 in retrospect i kinda get it 06:01 yeah 06:01 Try ascending unspoiled in evil. 06:01 no thanks 06:01 it's the purest distillation of nerdshittery 06:01 Hell. Try ascending at all in evil. 06:02 in all its shoved-in-lockers glory 06:02 Hmm. I can't take on a snow golem yet. 06:02 and it turned out to have a lot of appeal beyond that because hey, you get kinda sucked into making your own stories with each char you splat 06:02 yeah that's what it became about for me 06:02 bones files was the fucking masterstroke in that regard 06:04 yeah true 06:04 On that note I wonder if I'll find any in my run 06:04 Let's see 06:04 Umbire: In evil? You'll likely find mine. 06:04 Umbire: I die a *lot*. :( 06:04 * Umbire pats 06:04 I'm revving up the xNet fryer anyway 06:04 just got done stealing a magic lamp from that shop using the dog 06:05 poison res too 06:05 I got a bunch of IDs off 1 scroll, which really helps 06:05 Super critical. I have that for free eat least, with my monk. 06:05 CNT-FAI: Oh yeah xNet removed the identify spell lol 06:05 too busted 06:05 But I badly need a ring of free action. 06:05 dang 06:06 but ID scrolls are even more useful now to compensate 06:06 I have no idea what to even wish for though 06:06 DSM isn't a thing anymore, I have to wish up the scales and then use what would be the normal method to fuse them to the armor 06:07 and I'm planning excalidips so no point wishing up an artifact 06:07 (yet) 06:07 you watching CNT-FAI? 06:07 oh ill jump in 06:08 hm is there a shortcut to quit watching another one 06:08 q 06:08 just takes you back to the menu, then you can pick another game to watch 06:08 this is what samurai? 06:08 Yeah 06:08 neat 06:08 let the game pick for me 06:08 Just to show the inventory 06:09 I was tempted to sell those gold arrows but I remembered I have a yumi 06:09 so incentive to actually use them lol 06:09 samurai were the multiclassers of their day 06:09 also beasts at two-weaponing and zen 06:10 word to the wise: 06:10 evil zombies are fucking vicious 06:10 I still have to stop and double take whenever I see them anywhere else 06:12 brb tea 06:14 back 06:14 sorry, mom wanted me to make her another 06:14 might make some for myself soon 06:14 but anyhow 06:15 ow 06:15 rude 06:16 CNT-FAI: thing to remember about lights 06:16 self-blinding renders them totally ineffectual 06:16 oh right 06:17 btw, you politely didn't ask, but i will tell you for mathing purposes, i am the level 34 irl 06:17 Nice 06:17 it's not bad 06:17 Hmm... Melee'ing a wumpus... And Kathryn the Vagrant. 06:17 Meeting somewhat older peers is always good 06:17 Vagrant 06:17 Ah, cavefolk 06:17 i'm in that sweet spot between the fully fomred adult brain status and the long, slow downhill slide 06:18 Ain't it grand. 06:18 Also another evil-ism is you can randomly run into player monsters now 06:18 yeah id be some kidn of deadish if i had to grow up on social media 06:18 I didn't get into it proper until high school and that was when FB was schools-only 06:18 and look at me now 06:19 😂🔫 06:19 anyway FB is a plague upon humanity 06:19 and vice versa 06:19 and indeed vice versa 06:20 Umbire: Haha. FB is schools only? How have the times changed. 06:20 was 06:20 I'm on social media, unfortunately, but I hate it. 06:20 I have to keep telling myself that I do actually have things pretty darn good. 06:20 oh yeah it was originally a site for ranking the hotness of female harvard students without their consent 06:21 Even if everybody else on social media seems to have it better. 06:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:40484 06:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40486 06:21 yeah, then it got rolled out to schools 06:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 2671 points, T:5564, killed by an owlbear 06:21 and then the curve goes exponentially down from there 06:21 OH 06:21 -!- dopplerg- has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 06:21 CNT-FAI: evil also has babby owlbears 06:22 they're cute and fuzzy I imagine 06:22 also deadly! 06:22 *sigh*, I'm such a pack rate. 06:22 *rat 06:22 evil is almost certainly not for me, i like in xNH how stuff that's pointlessly aggravating has been fixed to be somewhat like a game that actually wants to be both enjoyed and beaten 06:22 CNT-FAI: Actually a lot of the aggravating stuff has been fixed in evil, too. It's just *hard*. 06:23 i get it 06:23 yeah it's a real ass-kicker but both it and xNH have a lot of QoL fixes 06:23 For example, you can BUC an entire sack and it's inventory just by dropping it on an altar. 06:23 No need to take out each item, drop it, and put it back in. 06:23 you'll notice i addressed multiple criteria 06:24 yeah 06:24 sort of 06:24 CNT-FAI: But... Evil does have gardens full of beautiful girls. 06:24 they're all nymphs though. 06:24 so does new jersey 06:24 CNT-FAI: Curious. 06:24 well fuck she's got us there 06:24 Indeed. 06:24 CNT-FAI: I'm glad I'm never visiting new jersey, then. :D 06:25 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fqph.fs.quoracdn.net%2Fmain-qimg-412af930ce13a1f868895e6a94553db4&f=1&nofb=1 06:25 he does give off Data vibes sometimes 06:25 Data is cool peeps tho 06:25 he's the good one 06:25 also another DDG user, neat 06:26 love that it eschews tracking, hate that news article searches skew right too often 06:27 ecosia's a p. decent search engine too 06:27 ooooooooh 06:27 copper splint 06:27 noncursed! 06:28 oh blast it 06:28 copper slightly weaker as armor material it seems 06:28 can't be helped 06:29 the annoying thing is DDG for me skews right for even like, casual news article searches 06:29 also searching memes with it is complete asscheeks. 06:29 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Xra Mal Law), 17360 points, T:5066, killed by a monster (invisible Luisa's hugging boot) 06:30 ^end of your average slex run btw 06:30 the woman loves her footwear 06:30 I wonder if I can repair my stetho by dippign it into a forge. 06:30 bah where are the stairs! 06:31 Umbire: In which game? 06:31 you *can* 06:31 personally wouldn't risk it 06:31 arahael: ? 06:31 Umbire: You bakc in evil? 06:31 you can, it just requires disdain for your own life 06:31 no, still in xNH 06:31 forges in evil are basically fountains 06:31 but with lava 06:32 actually hold on 06:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:32 I need to try drinking from a forge in evil 06:32 while in like, fire elemental or salamander form 06:32 hmm, stairs and a vault to find 06:33 fuck, stashed my pick-axe 06:33 nbd 06:33 lol 06:33 RNG havin' a laff 06:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 323 points, T:897, killed by a sewer rat, while reading a book 06:33 hm, this is almost certainly not ideal for my health or my plan to get the vaccine tomorrow, but my current working theory on my brain today is i don't want to give up control of my consciousness yet because i'm still bitter about being woken up on my asshole neighbor's schedule on a saturday morning 06:34 not *un*reasonable 06:35 marking engravings on the map is so pog 06:35 i like the abundance of engravings in x 06:35 man.jpg 06:36 hell could the stairs even be 06:36 i also enjoy it being a free game that starts with x despite there being absolutely no reason to run it in a GUI 06:36 I mean tiles are p. neat honestly 06:36 no i mean 06:36 but plain ASCII is also Very Comfy 06:36 -!- yanah has joined #hardfought 06:36 -!- yanah has quit [Excess Flood] 06:36 you can choose to do it 06:37 there's no particular reason to that is intrinsic to the game itself 06:37 lmfao 06:37 -!- yanah has joined #hardfought 06:37 -!- yanah has quit [Excess Flood] 06:37 I forgot about this bit 06:37 you can bring your own reason but it isn't there 06:37 u rite, yeah 06:37 but also look at my game rn 06:37 by contrast to xevil, xbill, et 06:37 is that from the road runner 06:38 yep 06:38 all coyotes have something like this if you far look 'em 06:39 por que? 06:39 I just got the same program disorder you did earlier 06:39 bug seems to be related to intrinsic-less corpses 06:39 intensely disturbing error message 06:40 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:37, on T:38669 06:40 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:38674 06:40 I think the game's mostly just crying because it's getting weird instructions from the code 06:40 also it's SO WEIRD 06:40 that pets don't just vacuum up corpses anymore 06:40 makes keeping yourself fed much less of a hassle 06:41 but you start taking corpse disposal for granted after a while 06:42 have to get to skilled to really get anywhere with twoweaponing it seems 06:42 in terms of accuracy 06:44 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:38880 06:44 pets having actually reasonable nutrition handling is 06:44 So Weird 06:45 so many corpses going to waste 06:45 yeah thats an example of the kind of stuff i immediately like more about x whether or not i can actually beat it 06:45 big monky 06:45 it's rational that the game exists as it does 06:46 but Rif who's gonna hoover up troll corpses for meeee ;A; 06:46 troll roomba. the roomba for troll corpses 06:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 268 points, T:2346, killed by a nearly deceased little dog 06:46 lmfao 06:46 rip 06:47 I should save up shuriken 06:47 more dorfs 06:47 or a rock mole 06:47 Fun. 06:47 -!- k-man has left #hardfought 06:47 o 06:48 this also leads to a hidden closet like ad aerarium 06:48 but instead of a vault tele 06:48 Excuse me 06:48 rude ass door trap 06:48 bingo 06:48 trap door 06:48 simply Uncouth 06:49 you can tame monkeys and other Y with bananas btw 06:49 again: rational 06:49 if a bit Krusty the Clown 06:49 I think that's a vanilla-ism as well 06:49 but ye 06:50 -!- Pinkbeas1 has joined #hardfought 06:50 ...Pinkbeast I think you have a doppleganger 06:50 "All hail RNG" lol 06:50 ohey another pick-axe 06:51 weighs a lot less but I wonder how fast it digs 06:52 CNT-FAI: CTRL+A repeats the very last thing you did 06:52 works for quick trap checks like these 06:52 "Why wouldn't he?" - Master Shake 06:53 OH THIS SURE LOOKS FAMILIAR 06:54 haha 06:54 also holy shit dead elves become wraiths 06:54 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:39196 06:54 somehow I did not factor that 06:54 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:39199 06:54 wait no I'm cooked 06:54 It's just a ghost but moved to W 06:54 amazing 06:54 to move away from punctuation 06:55 and Rational 06:55 W also looks like a ghost 06:55 👻 06:55 ah right, scroll of scare monster is here 06:55 basically a free spac 06:55 space* 06:56 also have the Fun™ job of figuring out what's cursed 06:56 Should I... 06:56 or should I not 06:56 on one hand it's like 06:56 Ultramorbid 06:57 on the other, it's what she would've wanted 06:57 this whole thing is ultramorbid 06:57 and yeah 06:57 ...of course 06:57 i mean you just went to war with the servant of a god of chaos over an amulet 06:57 I COULD take a third option and use my undead turning wand 06:57 basically revive her 06:57 or end up making a zombie by accident 06:58 it doesn't get me sleep res but it's hilarious to contemplate 06:58 damnit, I almost wanna do it for the novelty 06:58 you gotta do either what's best for you or for your character concept IMHO 06:58 but alas, eating is the pragmatic concept 06:59 Oh right, ghosts aren't scared by the scroll it seems 06:59 WAIT 06:59 it was that asshole wererat 06:59 had an invisibility potion on 'em 06:59 <@oatmeal> lol 07:00 I am sleepless now 07:00 wait, whatever potion you had left over became smoky in my game 07:00 sometimes i think all RLs should require you to successfully stake out a safe place to sleep regularly 07:00 sick 07:00 that might've been the only one i didn't try 07:00 CNT-FAI: Doesn't one of the Moira forks or bands do that? 07:01 i honestly have no ideda 07:01 were you able to access the stashes 07:01 nah, only the floor you die on makes bones 07:01 ah right 07:01 sensible enough 07:01 everything else is lost to spacetime 07:02 ah! 07:02 I have 2 scrolls of scare monster on hand 07:02 even if I didn't watch the game taunt us with the fact that was your last unread scroll 07:03 it only stood to reason 07:03 gonna have to test one of those potions 07:03 so I know that's unholy water 07:05 time to make my own stash, looks like 07:06 can retire the orcish daggers now I have your old lockpick 07:07 CNT-FAI: wait you still had your sleep wand on you in spite of no charges, yeah? 07:08 yeah 07:08 ah 07:08 I remembered this being "bugs stop moving" anyway so it had to be that 07:09 yep 07:09 need to figure out the BUC of that marker before I do anything with it 07:10 You. 07:10 I come back for you later 07:10 In the meantime 07:10 This one's for you Rif 07:10 * Umbire salutes, promptly falls down stairs 07:10 that damn unicorn 07:10 lol 07:10 gets me every time 07:12 technically CntFai, I try to keep that distinction in rl's 07:12 booooooooo 07:12 can't take skill in mace 07:12 flail/nunchaku though 07:12 you should have that platinum flail 07:12 I do, I just picked it up 07:12 I'm keepin' it with me 07:12 just sounds like serial killer gear 07:13 like a guy chose to source and be good at a platinum flail imnstead of twisting people's heads off with one pop 07:13 nunchaku are more "absolute flex" weapons than straight serial killer stuff 07:14 which is a whole other type of wicked 07:14 could probably punch my skull out of me but instead you're showing off 07:14 "Friendship ain't about trust. Friendship is about nunchaku." - Carl Brutananananewski 07:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 28 darts on an altar, on T:3218 07:14 lol 07:14 What movie's that 07:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:40878 07:14 none, it's from Aqua Teen Hunger Force 07:14 Oh, more ATHF 07:15 ya 07:15 fave show? 07:15 Or just really quotable for you 07:15 was at the time 07:15 ah fair 07:15 now it's more that master shake is trump 07:15 wew 07:15 so it's more relevant than ever now that he...sort of isn't 07:16 ...did I just find your ghost sneaking around by accident 07:16 by throwing her old armor at her 07:16 seems like 07:16 this fucking game lmao 07:16 i always liked the shake episodes where he dies trying to prove that he's relevant in situations where he very clearly does not matter 07:17 lmao yeah 07:17 most pointedly Bookie, where Meatwad bails him out after a string of impossibly bad bets and then asks him to do the sword swallowing trick he claimed to have taught Meatwad 07:17 the last thing he says as his halves slide apart is "See you nerds later" 07:18 raw 07:18 at no point admitting that he couldn't do it 07:18 ah piss 07:18 I galaxy brained and forgot my katana's letter 07:18 that's shot for shot how trump is gonna die 07:19 also your old armor isn't cursed btw 07:19 for a chaotic priestess, she has a way of not cursing everything she touches 07:20 just to confirm 07:20 robe ain't cursed either o: 07:22 what to name this Funny Robe 07:22 Lawful in the Streets Chaotic in the Sheets would be funny 07:22 but is also long 07:22 (and probably a bit too on the mose) 07:22 nose* even 07:23 Ted Franzen 07:24 Apparently a real estate agent 07:24 makes sense but i meant more like 07:24 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Danson + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Franzen 07:25 O 07:26 this is more how i think of Franzen https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fotb.cachefly.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F06%2Fjonathan-franzen-air-quotes-1024x552.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 who recently wrote that a character's genitalia was like an "autonomous" "rabbit" 07:26 he sure looks like a person who would use those specific words together in that order to describe genitalia 07:26 he has this way of being totally unaware that his existence implies a lack of order in the universe 07:27 Let's composite the joke 07:28 yeah that's a good synthesis option 07:28 "Got a lovely little plot for ya... six feet under!" 07:28 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:41846 07:28 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on the Plane of Earth (for the 5th time), on T:41847 07:29 now where's that ghost. 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15988 07:31 ugh, still steep 07:31 I know sams ain't casters but whew 07:31 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:41914 07:31 lmfao COME ON 07:32 not even throwing me a tiny little bone here 07:32 ah well 07:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a pair of jackboots entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:4154 07:37 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:42068 07:38 fuck, dog blew up my strat of using the gas spore 07:38 and the ghost resisted anyway 07:38 that's our CntFai 07:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed CntFai's ghost, the former Adept, on T:7311 07:39 may her eternal rest be peaceful 07:41 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:42086 07:41 name doesn't show up 07:41 bother 07:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:42143 07:41 Rip In Pwns 07:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:42145 07:44 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:42147 07:44 ah, your harp 07:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:4962 07:48 verified there's no changes to unlocking tools 07:48 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:42134 07:48 now enough piddling about 07:48 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) averted death (killed by an uninjured priestess of Moloch), on T:42135 07:49 apparently floor with bones give permanent eerie feelings 07:51 and this is with a bones-cursed platinum flail 07:51 (and some shuriken, granted) 07:52 -!- CNT-FAI has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:54 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1120828 points, T:42158, escaped (in celestial disgrace) 07:54 F 07:57 !tell CNT-FAI found Soko after climbing up from a deep-shafting via trap door, have more to share when you get back. also there's variable materials for statues too 07:57 Will do, Umbire! 07:57 Yeah, in xNetHack, object properties exist <-- false. varying materials exist, properties like in evilhack or fiqhack do not 07:57 xNetHack is just vanilla but touched up <-- false. that would make it just acehack 2.0. xnethack has a TON of gameplay changes; they just tend to be subtle tweaks rather than flashy "new stuff" 07:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:5849 07:57 I think aos raised the threshold for [low HP to be fixed by prayer] <-- no, it's still the vanilla formula 07:58 CNT-FAI: Actually a lot of the aggravating stuff has been fixed in evil, too. It's just *hard*. <-- yes, but there is a lot of aggravating stuff deliberately left in despite player pleas 07:58 to be fair it was a weird brain night and I swapped a lot of words 07:58 on top of just getting things wrong 07:58 as you can see by us nearly getting Rif killed like 5 different times before it stuck 07:59 doe you know what was eaten that prompted the "impossible intrinsic 0" error? 07:59 do* 07:59 Dwarf corpse in the case of Rif/CNT-FAI I think 07:59 Coyote in mine 07:59 I have all the images if you wanna see them 07:59 no that should be enough to go on 07:59 or do you want I should email instead? 07:59 Alright 08:00 but I just saw screenshots of the error, without context 08:01 which didn't really help without knowing what happened immediately before 08:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 08:02 Hi Amy 08:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Sam Hum Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:7789 08:03 hi Umbire, wow lots of backscroll 08:03 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2021-03-20 08:50 EDT: why am I dead? :( 08:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Reaver, on T:60496 08:04 !tell amateurhour you died from a hemorrhage. sorry about your loss :( it revealed several problems that I need to fix. first, you shouldn't keep dying from blood loss while praying successfully, that's really stupid. second, the bleeding effect was too powerful 08:04 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 08:05 re me taking issue with slashthem, I don't mind slashthem per se, but I do mind that soviet went ahead and undid basically *everything* I did, instead of simply forking slashem and adding his own stuff on top of it :P 08:06 if I were to make a variant of another existing variant, I'd certainly not pick the one I dislike the most only to proceed ripping it to shreds, I'd pick a variant that I already like to begin with 08:06 I was shorthanding a lot and my brain wasn't working ok 08:07 heh, just trying to cover my back here ;) 08:07 (emphasis on trying I guess?) 08:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Umbire (Sam Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7876 08:07 fuck, didn't uncurse 08:07 guess I'm stuck with this (admittedly cool) cursed flail 08:07 for a bit more anyway 08:08 think I found the bug 08:09 I speculated it was tied to intrinsicless corpses 08:09 (which, I know 2 instances ain't a lot to guess on) 08:10 oh yeah, there a "select all" shortcut 08:10 I forget 08:11 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:11 aoei: you're chemistry not biology right? I seem to remember someone around here was a biologist 08:12 aoei dedded and went to sleep a while ago I think 08:12 like a While 08:12 ugh if only I knew how to pull a specific commit from one branch to the other 08:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8445 08:16 !tell K2 there's a slex commit waiting on the master branch that wants to be installed, fixes issues with bleeding damage :) amateurhour discovered that praying successfully would illogically not prevent his char from bleeding to death! 08:16 No worries, LarienTelrunya, I've got this! 08:17 ditto for xnethack, just pushed a fix for the intrinsic impossible 08:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:43272 08:18 "Hark, mortal, for I have heard your call!" and then they look down to see a corpse frozen in the praying position from rigor mortis 08:18 !tell CNT-FAI also aosdict found and fixed the bug! 08:18 I'm on it, Umbire. 08:21 I guess the mythology of the nethack universe is such that gods can't bring someone back from the dead 08:21 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:22 I mean they *could* but laws of nature and all 08:26 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 08:28 Hi Ammy 08:28 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 08:28 . 08:28 amateurhour: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-03-21 08:04 EDT: you died from a hemorrhage. sorry about your loss :( it revealed several problems that I need to fix. first, you shouldn't keep dying from blood loss while praying successfully, that's really stupid. second, the bleeding effect was too powerful 08:28 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:43670 08:29 aosdict: Doesn't praying to a non-chaotic god as an undead result in a special interaction? 08:29 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 08:37 "Walk no more, perversion of nature!" I think 08:37 Yep 08:38 then they destroy your monster form 08:38 And that's non-chaotic gods, right? 08:38 if you permanently corrupted into an undead, rip 08:38 I like to think the god goes "...oops" 08:39 oh that message is only for neutral, but yes you're correct that the effect is the same for all non-chaotic 08:39 Goodie 08:40 isn't it a lower chance for neutrals compared to lawfuls? 08:40 maybe, I'm just looking at the code where they destroy you 08:41 aosdict: Oh, question 08:41 Is it normal to see statues in hallways 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2418 points, T:2329, killed by an uninjured Woodland-elf 08:42 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823174740231192626/unknown.png 08:42 <@Umby> C is the statue in question 08:43 For further context, I killed a cockatrice in the hallway I'm in currently before traveling further west, and I then found the statue on the way back towards the altar 08:43 Thinking the trice was related somehow 08:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 911 points, T:1502, killed by an uninjured dwarf lord 08:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a heavy mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:12300 08:49 correct. that's not a vanilla thing, but in xnethack when a cockatrice generates at level creation some statues may spawn in its vicinity. that can include hallways 08:50 . 08:50 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-03-21 08:16 EDT: there's a slex commit waiting on the master branch that wants to be installed, fixes issues with bleeding damage :) amateurhour discovered that praying successfully would illogically not prevent his char from bleeding to death! 08:50 Umbire: however if the statue appeared in a hallway you had already explored, I don't think that's intended behavior 08:50 Nah, former 08:50 it should only happen at level creation, not if a c spawns later 08:51 Which it did 08:51 (at level creation) 08:51 cool 08:51 I suspected as much, just wanted to clarify 08:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1582 points, T:2042, poisoned by a giant cockroach 08:52 aosdict: also do beehive spawn in those special square rooms? 08:53 special square rooms? 08:53 there's a themed room that has 1-3 mini beehives in the middle 08:53 though I prefer Super Honeycomb of course 08:54 !who 08:54 K2: [hdf-us] twiggets [nh370] Karnac [nh370] KrO2 [dnh] Umbire [xnh] dbanethacker [evil] | [hdf-eu] Tonttu [nh370] elenmirie [nh370] HarmathZsolt [slshm] joes [evil] lacca [evil] mobileuser [evil] | [hdf-au] naoky [nh370] 08:55 Umbire can you save real quick? 08:57 joes I sent you a !tell here yesterday 08:58 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 08:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:58 hi Umbire_ 08:58 -!- Umby has joined #hardfought 08:58 hi Umby 08:58 heh 08:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 3029 points, T:4235, killed by a soldier ant 08:59 Go team a 09:00 K2: surge/brownout killed my power for a sec 09:00 Umby can you save your xnh game real quick please 09:00 oooh 09:00 so your game is in limbo 09:00 yeah, great fuckin' timing innit 09:00 i can recover, one sec 09:01 recovered 09:01 k2 thx 09:01 joes: Message from K2 at 2021-03-20 22:18 EDT: this is what we use for hterm - https://bitbucket.org/kerio92/wstty/src/master/ - and no I dont keep track of bones file usage 09:01 xNetHack updated (all servers) 09:01 thx for fix 09:01 Alright, permission to resume? 09:01 yeah go for it 09:02 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2635 points, T:1664, killed by an uninjured dwarf 09:02 aosdict: And yeah, the hive was more than likely in that room with the middle closed off 09:03 @luxidream you around? 09:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:33150 09:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a mithril etched helmet entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:14137 09:04 aosdict: Also do those statues have spellbook chances or no 09:04 they should 09:05 aha 09:05 not completely sure but I think so 09:05 Slash'EM Extended updated (all servers) 09:06 they should have normal monster inventory aosdict 09:06 otherwise it just breaks the immersion 09:06 :( 09:06 I'll break your immersion 09:06 🔨 09:06 thanks for taking a look at the bleeding thing Amy, it was a really demotivating death haha 09:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:07 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 75 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45799 09:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:07 yaaaaaaaaaaay thanks for installing it so quickly K2 ♥ amateurhour: yeah the values were insane, and the prayer thing was just stupid 09:08 SlashTHEM updated (all servers) 09:08 I think it was some perfume thing through a wall that caused it initially 09:09 ooh what slashthem updates have there been 09:09 oh nothing since I last checked 09:09 someone else hurry up and ascend slashthem so I'm not alone on the scoreboard 09:09 amateurhour: yeah; the upper bound of the random bleeding damage was way too high, so I divided it by a factor 5 to make it more survivable 09:10 no idea what I was thinking when I put in those values... 09:10 probably 'lolol this will ruffle some feathers muahaha [face of evil]' 09:10 :D 09:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:14923 09:11 amateurhour: want to coach me on race/role? 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 397 points, T:2481, killed by an uninjured gecko 09:11 heh, maybe, but it had to be seen in-game for me to be able to gauge whether the values were working out (they were not) 09:12 monk or jedi are probably cruise control to victory 09:12 amateurhour: sorry that you had to lose a char to my bad game design :/ 09:12 as for race, incantifier or doppelganger are busted and epic 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 839 points, T:559, killed by a wounded dwarf lord 09:15 haha Amy I was just saying in another channel just before I died 09:15 'this is the part of the run where I feel like I can ascend' 09:15 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a heavy mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:15322 09:16 :D 09:16 huh which other channel are you posting about slex? want to join that and/or read the logs :P 09:16 secret channel 09:17 blah 09:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:46259 09:17 :D 09:17 really looking forward to junethack 09:17 man you're talking about my game in there, I want to know it too so that I can keep making slex better in future versions 09:17 and if you're making fun of slex in there, I want to see it so I can laugh too :D 09:18 UnNetHack updated (all servers) 09:18 K2 is on a roll with the updates today 09:19 dw Amy if I have actual feedback and/or mockery I will make sure to do it in public where you'll see it :P 09:19 slex bad! 09:19 * LarienTelrunya wonders how many "let's mock slex and its creator!!!" gossip corners exist that I'm not aware of 09:20 I think probably I'll try spirit nonsokosolver monk again 09:20 gotta do the census first before starting a new game 09:21 idk if I'll get as lucky as that game again though, was managing to id scrolls with ease 09:23 I think fem might be easier than mal 09:23 make it more fun by adding hte feminizer hybrid race :D 09:23 * amateurhour looks up what that does 09:23 lol 09:23 no thanks :P 09:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 447 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:46665 09:24 the one that replaces monsters with traps could be interesting if combined with one that increases the initial monster count in some way 09:26 something like ironman roommate homicider? 09:27 can't remember if you said there was any way to avoid wouwous or perfume 09:27 aosdict: you are correct 09:28 <{Demo}3> slashem hyperextended 09:28 Umby was also correct about me dying out 09:28 but i am alive again :3 09:28 perfume requires a gas mask, which is a very rare item and also doesn't offer complete protection; wouwou taunts are affected by MC, so try to stack as much of that as you can and increase the spirituality skill :D 09:28 oh I managed to get expert spirituality and had MC3 I think 09:28 no wonder it was seeming easier 09:28 that would be 84% chance of saving throw 09:29 i.e. one in six wouwou taunts still affects you with those values 09:29 compared to MC0 on an ico 09:29 yeah with MC0 you'd be affected every time :P 09:30 that can also be read as "if you have MC0 and can't kill the wouwouer quickly, you're pretty much dead" 09:30 <{Demo}3> I woke up and have no idea what Amy of this is 09:30 <{Demo}3> any* 09:31 {Demo}3: today I'm a different Amy compared to yesterday *bundlebundlebundle* :D 09:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:33779 09:32 <{Demo}3> you applied the katana? 09:32 Vacuuming, bbs 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3156 09:33 Demo: who, me? no, it's just that today I don't have a tour that eats up the entire day ;) 09:33 so I have some time at home now, althouh I'll have to leave for the second part of today's split shift in about three hours 09:33 I just thought how would the most annoying level to cross look like? 09:33 like the ranger quest spiral but it's spread across the whole floor 09:34 amateurhour: not the metropolitan gallery of boulder art where you have to fill in a hundred or so holes just to get to the stair? 09:34 and all the peacefuls in it are demon-lord tier monsters that you don't want to attack 09:35 and phasing doesn't work 09:35 which one is that one Amy? the one that's in slex already? 09:35 can't check jonadab's site for the names as the site is still gone 09:35 haha, bonus points if nicking any peaceful angers Orion (and makes the game unwinnable) regardless of whether he can see you. :P 09:35 a sink doesn't have an effect on flying, should it? how exploitable are multiple sinks on a level 09:35 amateurhour: yeah the full-screen soko level 09:36 oh that one is at least fun 09:36 a full screen soko level combined with the 12 boulder stack level? 09:37 yikes 09:37 Sinks still pull you down I think but they don't permaground you 09:37 hmmm 09:37 like 300 boulders in a stack and you have to spread them really far to solve the puzzle 09:37 that would be turboass 09:37 a full-screen soko level with 120 boulders in a stack--ninjad :D 09:38 with no spare boulders too 09:38 for real I like the full size soko levels jonabad came up with, wouldn't mind 4 floors of soko replaced with one of them 09:38 EPI: sokoban levels with numbered boulders and holes. Every boulder has a specific hole it needs to go into, pushing it into a different hole just erases the boulder and makes the puzzle impossible to complete. 09:39 that would be quite nasty 09:39 with the rewards scattered around purposefully in different regions so you'd get rewarded for partial progress 09:39 like a wand and ring and some food for doing the first part 09:39 why do I keep typoing jonadab as jonabad, I am so sorry it's really not intentional 09:40 :/ 09:40 jona bad pls nerf 09:41 jonabad becomes jonagood! 09:42 I'll start my SLEX game up in a little bit, give Amy something to do between tours. 09:42 yaaaaaaay ♥ thanks Umby! 09:43 Have some RNG stuff to add from this single dumplog anyway 09:43 obtw, you might want to steal from my rcfile, e.g. statuscolors so that you can keep track of your HP more easily 09:43 this is my rcfile: https://em.slashem.me/userdata/Bluescreen/slex/Bluescreen.slexrc - feel free to ask about stuff :) 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2405 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 447 points, T:2443, killed by an uninjured dwarf 09:44 Right, will do 09:44 the various challenges in there are character combos designed to be particularly hard ;) 09:45 I guessed that 09:46 "OPTIONS=askforalias,showsanity,showsymbiotehp" ? 09:46 askforalias allows you to give a custom name to your character 09:46 showsanity and showsymbiotehp displays your sanity and your symbiote's HP on the bottom status line 09:46 Hm, neat 09:46 (the latter only if you have a symbiote, of course) 09:47 How many of these option things can I place on one line 09:47 i still feel a bit rekt today lol 09:48 i did sleep eventually but i am glad im not competing 09:48 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47771 09:48 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:47772 09:48 oh right fuck, another race today 09:48 Umby: not sure if there's a limit, but line wrap might prevent you from fitting too many in a line 09:48 yeah tommo, habib and jonathanhanes iirc 09:48 right, right 09:48 when will that race commence? 09:48 luxi gives me the honour to join on voice and talk shite about the runners 09:49 Usually noon EST Amy 09:49 if I remember right 09:49 5pm for us i think Amy 09:49 o 09:49 ye 09:49 ah, so about two hours from now 09:49 I forget you're both German 09:49 yeah i like just woke up 09:49 also there a place I can edit this rcfile? 09:49 i am not actually german i just live here :D 09:49 outSIDE of the terminal? 09:49 * aoei is a brit 09:49 shameful, i kno 09:50 aoei: woooooow I'd like to sleep for so long too, just once ;) instead I have to get up at like 5-6 AM every day 09:50 Amy you don't know what time i went to bed LOL 09:50 I think I slept about 4 hours 09:50 what can I say my life is clearly out of control 09:51 :) 09:51 aww :/ 09:51 but did you at least dream of fluffy bundles during those hours? ♥ 09:51 I've been up since yesterday evening so 09:51 Umby: oof 09:51 hm I dont remember what I dreamed Amy 09:52 someone tell me what the frack I can do to edit rc outside of terminals 09:52 or I'll 09:52 push something over with my foot iunno 09:52 possibly this: https://i.redd.it/y948lsaqq9o61.jpg 09:52 me neither, although I do remember that it was some interesting dream 09:52 Umby: you can paste it to a text editor, edit it there, and paste it back into the terminal when done 09:52 Umby: well, you can download the rcfile, edit it somewhere, then paste into the terminal editor :P 09:52 Umby, https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/rcedit/ 09:52 doesn't that work? 09:52 oh yeah there's also the web editor 09:52 thank you nabru, lemme see if that does 09:52 that nabru just linked 09:53 nice one nabru 09:54 so its noon est? 09:54 Yeah it works 09:54 luxi sent me seeds but no one can seem to tell me when it starts 09:54 thanks LarienTelrunya nabru aoei 09:54 lol K2 09:54 Umby: ♥ 09:54 yeah 09:55 Now I can fiddle a bit with options prior to starting proper 09:55 i should go and get me some grub before this starts 09:55 First let's see what it even looks like 09:55 and make sure i ahve plenty of water to drink 09:55 don't want to dry out while shite-talking 09:56 I have several questions. 09:57 * LarienTelrunya just ate some ice cream and is now also ready to play some slex! :) 09:57 Umby: ask away 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5549 points, T:4007, killed by a death ray 09:57 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823193695884542012/unknown.png 09:57 <@Umby> The fuck 09:58 well uhh... whichever graphics mode you chose, your terminal apparently doesn't support it 09:58 IBM 09:58 as was in your rcfile 09:58 so 09:58 this is obviously not actually your fault but clearly I have far more tweaking to do than I first expected 09:58 yeah that doesn't work on all terminals 09:58 wait you have putty, then we could fix it 09:58 maybe 09:58 because I use putty too and it doesn't look like that for me 09:59 can you go the putty settings "Window -> Translation" and check what the remote character set is? I have mine set to CP437 09:59 moment 09:59 !tell LarienTelrunya somewhat regular reminder to update your OS to something sane 09:59 Will do, amateurhour! 09:59 amateurhour: wat 09:59 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2021-03-21 09:59 EDT: somewhat regular reminder to update your OS to something sane 09:59 what does that even have to do with anything lol 10:00 it's just a somewhat regular reminder, it wasn't necessarily on-topic here :P 10:00 okay that's about 90% of my current issues solved 10:00 "lol amy you use putty you should switch to an os that doesnt support putty so you have to go find another terminal emulator lel"? :P 10:00 well in linux you can barely move for terminal emulators, haha 10:01 the other 10% is "why does my cursor jump 8 spaces in one directio 10:01 direction"* 10:01 Umby: yay you have fleecy colorful status lines! 10:01 aoei: it's census day in the UK, you're missing out on all the fun by being abroad :P 10:01 hmm maybe you now have number pad set to something other than what you use by default 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1496 10:02 amateurhour: you have no idea the depths of sadness this evokes 10:02 deep within my soul 10:02 numpad more like numbad 10:02 to miss such an event 10:02 Umby: you might have to tweak some of the settings, so if you use the blasphemous hjkl keys, change the number pad line to "number_pad:0" 10:02 more like ur bad 10:02 haha you'll have to just fill out a form and pretend you're doing the census 10:02 I use a number pad lol, it's just going like 8 spaces when I want 1 10:02 it's the only way to cope! 10:02 Shift or otherwise 10:03 Umby: wtf? 10:03 but it used to work before, right? 10:03 yeah 10:03 I think I found the option, gimme a sec 10:03 man I want to see you play, not have to solve stupid technical issued :P do you remember what you had it set to before? maybe you used number_pad:1 while I have set it to 2 10:04 Yeah I'm gonna mess with that rq 10:05 line 236 10:05 oh so you actually use numpad without the legacy mode I guess 10:06 number_pad option can have an optional value of 0 (off), 1 (on), or 2(on,legacy-mode) which causes 5='g', alt-5='G', alt-0='I' 10:06 hm 10:06 oh god is it still not working? 10:07 Oh no I'm in the middle of fiddling with it again 10:07 I'm in the part of the RC file where it says just that 10:07 (which, good job missing it first time me 6_9) 10:09 Now I save the CP437 option for tty you mentioned 10:09 and that much is right in the world 10:09 yaaaaay 10:10 so you can actually play in fleece bundle mode now? :) 10:10 it appears I can 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:28724 10:10 probably gonna nudge all these color options later though 10:11 yeah it's customizable :) my rcfile is more like a useful template from which you can pick the stuff you want 10:11 that's an annoying amount of G 10:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1472 10:12 are you in the mines? 10:12 Yes 10:12 killed a bomb thrower that made me actually have to try in a fight for once 10:12 watch out for little gray aliens and reticulans 10:12 was exciting 10:12 they'll make you lose intrinsic speed if you have it 10:12 tar chain mail? 10:12 is that even a thing? 10:13 in slex it is :D 10:13 an armor made of bitumen! it's lithic and therefore cannot rust, nor can metallivores eat it 10:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1421 points, T:1559, killed by a wounded watchman 10:14 named rocks 10:14 serious thrower that gnome was 10:14 oh yeah Amy I was gonna ask about fake artifacts and names 10:14 those are a fake artifact, which can indicate that an item may be highly enchanted 10:14 I had 2 luckstones, and another 2 luckstones that started with a name, both at +0 I think 10:14 amateurhour: hm? what do you want to ask? 10:14 I wanted to remove the name so all 4 would stack 10:14 I had formally identified luckstones 10:15 you can't remove artifact names, including for fake artifacts :P 10:15 when trying to remove the names from the fake artifact the message said 'the artifact resisted the attempt' 10:15 but they're not artifacts 10:15 yes, but you still cannot rename them 10:16 real fake artifacts you got there :B 10:16 lol exploding barrels 10:16 that's what I get for autopiloting 10:16 dead? 10:16 no 10:17 just slightly exploded and dum-feeling 10:17 oh yeah another thing I wanted to ask Amy, I usually keep healing, phase door, and cure in open invent 10:17 because I was under the impression they'll never burn 10:17 ...huh 10:18 but standing on fire traps or getting hit with irradiation, I noticed that I'd sometimes get a message like 'one of your scrolls of healing burns up' 10:18 so I'm guessing they're not immune? 10:18 keeping a few out in the open can save you the turn it takes getting them out of a container, but having too many just creates a bigger fire load 10:18 nah, I have no idea how you got the idea that they'd be immune? 10:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2115 points, T:1723, killed by a moderately wounded giant spider 10:18 I thought they were because they're immune to all sorts of stuff 10:18 like can't poly them 10:18 they're immune to attempts to turn them into stupid blank scrolls for the stupid magic marker :P 10:19 because of course they are 10:19 because 99.9% of all players would just blank their 200 scrolls of healing and mana when they feel they no longer need them, and then have infinite blank scrolls, which was never intended 10:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed jww's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:2303 10:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2637 points, T:2560, killed by an uninjured bugbear, while fainted from lack of food 10:20 >get downstairs 10:20 >immediately pushed back 10:20 stair traps can be deadly if that happens in a big room 10:22 well this floor's full of water which is just as bad 10:22 Umby: that's crystal water, which is less bad as long as you don't fly or levitate 10:22 because "fuck you for even trying to cross" I'm gonna guess? 10:22 however, eels can still drown you in it with their wrap attack 10:23 tfw gnome 10:23 haha, well crystal water clings to the ceiling. if you're on the ground, you can just walk underneath it 10:23 oh so it's fuckin' reverse water 10:23 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:49336 10:23 hilarious 10:23 do the eels fly? 10:23 yeah 10:23 antigravity water... sounds like zapm 10:23 amateurhour: they kind of levitate in the water :D 10:24 well that's not cricket 10:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:669 10:27 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 2535 points, T:1668, taken down by a giant spider 10:27 man I have no idea where my steed's saddle has gone... at least this level provided another 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) had a steel knife entrusted to him by Ishtar, on T:63499 10:28 *facepalm* 10:28 better than an iron knife :D 10:28 the fuck do you mean nethermist 10:29 Umby: huh you mean there is nether mist in your game? standing on that can slowly drain your experience 10:29 generally it's fine to go on them for like a turn 10:29 if you need to 10:29 someone zapped a terrain-altering wand 10:29 ah, yeah that can create all kinds of terrain 10:31 getting surrounded an awful lot here 10:32 yeah the mines can be dangerous 10:32 you can also Ctrl-U to clear the I markers for unseen monsters, which is definitely preferable over wasting a turn moving into them :P 10:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1425 10:32 (unless there really is a monster there, but chances are it's one invisible monster that made all those markers) 10:34 [hdf-us] [seed] Glord (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 10:34 think I'll play Fem till I succeed, the extra damage from claw attacks can be scary but not fatal 10:35 amateurhour: succeed? with defeating the ice queen? 10:35 but the hippie heels etc seem to just straight up take me out 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1608 10:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1305 10:35 ascend I mean 10:35 haha, you've not even gotten close 10:35 yeah I know, but finding fem a little easier than mal 10:36 so think I'll just stick to that 10:36 and yes I know you probably expect gehennom to be the boring grind where you just go through the motions, like in vanilla, but if I got the game design right this time, gehennom is supposed to be a real challenge 10:36 ah so not only will it up to a 175 floor grind it'll also be really difficult at the same time, epic :P 10:36 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Sorcerer, on T:50428 10:37 yeah of course, trudging through 175 boring dungeon levels where everything is zero threat to you would be a little bit boring! 10:37 be nice if I'd gotten a message about that blister passive wetting my stuff 6_9 10:37 rusting it, rather* 10:38 and it counts for crystal water too 10:38 lovely. 10:39 ? you shouldn't be rusted by the crystal water, as you're not flying or levitating 10:39 and the blister mushroom's passive attack should have said "Water splashes over you!", did it not do that? 10:39 It did but it didn't say what got rusted 10:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Glord (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 10:40 well yeah, in vanilla it also doesn't say what got rusted if you fall in the water... :P 10:40 and I just threw this other dagger at a petty brute, and it was more rusted when I picked it back up 10:40 ...I'm pretty sure it does 10:40 ? 10:40 uhh no, I don't think so 10:41 but I guess throwing the dagger at something that was in crystal water is somehow rusting it, which may be a bug 10:41 @le?blister mushroom 10:41 blister mushroom (F) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 0 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 7 | Attacks: 1d8 passive wet, 1d8 touch wet | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, breathless, mindless, vegan 10:42 -!- Pinkbeas1 has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2514 points, T:2085, killed by a slightly wounded snake 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4386 points, T:2722, killed by a wounded ogre lord 10:50 the bug again where you have to use F to attack 10:50 in an engulfer 10:50 yeah if only I knew how the hell that one is caused, I could then fix it 10:51 <{Demo}3> bad coding id guess 10:51 you can detect it's happening but don't know what causes it you mean? 10:52 yes, because I've not yet managed to reproduce it locally 10:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:35027 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1116 points, T:2939, killed by a gas cloud 10:53 You have the following problem: Your inventory gradually fills up with cursed items.. 10:53 Umby: phase door away or something! 10:54 amateurhour: means you'll periodically get the curse items effect 10:54 Rodney got to ya early huh? 10:54 :b 10:55 heh, that can also happen, but rodney traps are extremely rare 10:58 can symbiotes be lockpicks :thinking: 10:58 you could try forcing the lock with one of your bladed weapons, with the risk of breaking the weapon 10:59 I know but if I can't bust locks using symbiote tendrils then why even live 10:59 also I kinda like my bladed weapons so far lol 10:59 and I don't wanna risk welding the spare dagger to my hand 11:02 LarienTelrunya: Counts for kicking them into crystal water too 11:02 yeah I guess there's a bug for "rustable object travels onto a crystal water square" 11:02 I'll have to fix that function then 11:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:24051 11:03 also I'll wiztest later and show that you're told what rusts when plopping into water 11:03 heh you have a vanilla 3.4.3 setup ready for wiztesting? 11:04 I will in a moment 11:04 is there a symbiote race like in ndnh or something? or are you asking if you can use the symbiote item as a lockpick? 11:04 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 11:04 there is a "symbiote race" but it's called by its proper name: goauld :D 11:04 Latter 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 245 points, T:1513, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:04 <@luxidream> hey is tommo there 11:05 no 11:05 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823210840223252510/unknown.png 11:06 p. sure I just redraw the map here but this still threw me for a loop 11:06 Umby: looks like you have yellow spells 11:06 pardon? 11:06 <@luxidream> where is tommo >:[ 11:06 <{Demo}3> lol an ass human 11:06 you triggered a yellow spell trap, which is a nasty trap that does two things: 1. all your spells cost twice as much mana 2. the map no longer redraws correctly 11:07 oh fuck off 11:08 Umby: farlooking yourself can help a bit sometimes 11:09 And I'm guessing this is permanent. 11:09 nah, if it's a trap it'll wear off; there are also cursed items that replicate the effect though 11:10 but I was kinda expecting you to finally say "omg this variant must surely be the work of a truly perverted mind" :P 11:10 [hdf-eu] [slshm] joes (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 4415 points, T:2458, killed by a baby white dragon 11:11 Amy, I always thought that 11:11 what are you talking about 11:11 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 11:12 I watched someone play through urine lakes in Gehennom 11:12 what I don't know is if that was Ammy or you 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:64446 11:15 if it was gehennom then it's likely not me 11:15 the only times I've been to gehennom was after being banished 11:18 that was me, in the hell's bathroom branch which is full of urine lakes and toilets 11:20 what 11:27 just slex thing stenno 11:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Pir Inc Mal Neu) became the Pirate King, on T:18547 11:27 anyhow I'm feeling the lack of sleep kicking in 11:28 so I'll stop here for now 11:28 amateurhour: #justslexthings 11:28 Umby: alright, thanks for playing ♥ 11:28 LarienTelrunya: Thanks for bothering to watch, there'll be quite a bit done once you next come on 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:64728 11:28 yay :) 11:28 including the forsaken interface screw I guess? 11:29 * stenno goes back to evilhack 11:29 mhm 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1694 points, T:2762, killed by a bolt of fire 11:31 still no tommo on irc lol ffs 11:31 gl stenno 11:31 thx 11:34 odds are I'm gonna sleep through this and miss it (again) 11:34 did luxidream make a reddit post to announce when it is? 11:34 so if someone could message me a VOD or what have ye 11:34 it might be at a different time honestly 11:34 whenever I come back on 11:34 no I forgot 11:34 Isn't it like in 30 minutes lol 11:35 it happens in 26 minutes though 11:35 ^ 11:35 its different for me because we are in summer time now 11:35 so one hour earlier, technically 11:35 well not technically 11:35 woah stenno are you in the future? how's the race going? 11:35 tell me who to bet on and I'll give you 50% of the profit 11:35 everyone does fine 11:35 the race is already over 11:36 tommo showed up in time 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:20514 11:37 <{Demo}3> who was the race? 11:37 also i made a million euro by investing in some shitcoin 11:37 maybe the real race was the friends we made along the way 11:39 stenno: has slex 2.71 been released yet? 11:39 yes, congratulations 11:39 all in the next hour 11:39 amazing what happens in such a short time span 11:40 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Esp Fem Cha), 42860 points, T:3520, killed by brainlessness 11:40 started with 3 int 11:40 that blew your mind 11:40 <{Demo}3> did amy readd the curses interface? 11:40 yes, curses interface is in 11:40 <{Demo}3> amy would never do that 11:40 the brighest of all futures 11:41 she will have a change of mind in about 23 minutes 11:41 <{Demo}3> if people were like "hey, i was using that whyd u remove it" amy would be like "nope too bad it was all fucked up i dont care" 11:41 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 11:41 I need to find a way to get higher int, both in the game and irl 11:41 see, my prophecies are coming true 11:41 <{Demo}3> drink blessed enlightenment pots 11:41 o/ 11:41 yay tommo 11:42 hahaha the curses interface will be re-added once someone figures out how to fix the bugs 11:42 yay 11:42 :3 11:42 <{Demo}3> so never 11:42 can you idle in hdf so I can set up terminals last minute 11:42 Amy can you re-add curses for junethack? 11:42 <{Demo}3> unless stenno wants to do it to aid in his prophecies coming true 11:42 ye 11:42 thank 11:42 lol 11:42 <{Demo}3> who is racing today and what is the race? 11:42 I want to farm wishes using crashes, thank u in advance 11:42 epitome of self-fulfilling prophecy 11:42 amy removing something from slex? 11:42 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8587 points, T:5517, rt[0:30:45], wc[13:19:24], quit 11:42 what 11:43 removed the whole curses interface cuz bad 11:43 <{Demo}3> honestly though, i totally get wanting to remove the curses interface 11:43 <{Demo}3> like, there were considerations of that at some point for ndnh 11:43 it's 2021 and have to play in tty? 11:43 <{Demo}3> just out of frustration 11:43 we just need the unicode patch for vanilla 11:43 it's 2021 so throw out all the bad things like windows support and curses 11:43 the one that is in 3.4.3-NAO 11:44 <{Demo}3> spring cleaning 11:44 no more curses required 11:44 tommo I don't see your game 11:44 !who 11:44 luxidream: [hdf-us] shadowrider38 [nh370] Qwesti [nh370] KrO2 [dnh] RohoDragon [slex] every1 [xnh] aosdict [evil] hothraxxa [evil] | [hdf-eu] priyavt [nh370] Tonttu [nh370] ElPsyCongrooGoku [slex] | [hdf-au] naoky [nh370] Arahael [evil] 11:44 oh! umm sorry im just updating my settings 11:45 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: habib2] 11:45 oh ok take your time 11:45 <{Demo}3> the race is first person to identify a potion of oil by applying it 11:45 when does the stream part start? 11:45 <{Demo}3> the race is first person to polymorph into a grid bug 11:45 -!- Umby has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:45 Demo it's a race for sokoban prize and luckstone 11:45 <{Demo}3> oh, same race as last time then 11:45 yeah 11:45 it wasn't even me who added the curses interface in the first place 11:46 oh, wat r the seeds? 11:46 <{Demo}3> ok lame-y 11:46 they'll be on a menu that gets populated shortly before race start 11:46 no idea where K2 is tho 11:46 <{Demo}3> is k2 racing? 11:47 <{Demo}3> or right he has race integrations now 11:47 <{Demo}3> on dgl 11:47 K2 adds the seeds to the menu, he's not racing 11:47 oh okay 11:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of p'hul", on T:30753 11:47 <{Demo}3> i know how to summon k2 11:47 <{Demo}3> oh hey guys, im running bothack on 20 accounts and hdf is running real slow? I think all this automated pudding farming is using too much cpu? 11:48 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 11:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 11:48 summoned the wrong person 11:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Pelias, on T:30771 11:49 <{Demo}3> i dont see join messages so idk who joined lol 11:49 i made ramen 4 breakfast, it is p fancy :3 11:49 [hdf-eu] [slex] ElPsyCongrooGoku (Use Inh Fem Neu), 10350 points, T:2419, killed by a monster (goauld), while praying unsuccessfully 11:50 <{Demo}3> damn its almost noon i should eat breakfast 11:50 {Demo}3: whats the send delay ? 11:50 input send delay 11:50 -!- ais523 has quit [Client Quit] 11:50 <{Demo}3> 0 11:50 :I 11:50 <{Demo}3> why would i need delay? 11:50 to avoid server lag 11:51 <{Demo}3> the goal was to summon k2 11:51 <{Demo}3> so to say something extreme like that 11:51 oh 11:52 <{Demo}3> where k2 would have to come bop me with a stick 11:52 my bad 11:52 i also suddenly get it 11:52 maybe try actually running hundreds of bothack 11:52 <{Demo}3> no 11:52 put your money where your mouth is 11:52 dare u 11:52 wonder if you could actually DOS hdf with that 11:52 u cant not do it now 11:53 if he is not here I will post pastebin here 11:53 okok 11:54 im not sposed 2 watch the stream, right? 11:55 r there other secret things i should know? i feel out of the loop ^^; 11:55 secret things like what? 11:56 hi 11:56 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 11:56 !booze k2 11:56 * Beholder delivers k2 a pint of the sauce, fermented by the late Pinobot at 64 degrees Fahrenheit. 11:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:5431 11:56 shrugs 11:56 the seeds are ready to go 11:56 they'll be available one min before go time 11:59 Accidentally killed a shopkeeper because a dwarf was throwing darts at me and hit the shopkeeper instead, many times. 11:59 jonathanhanes thanks for the booze :P 11:59 Then destroyed both fountains. But it's only when I hit a shopkeeper that they finally riled up. 11:59 !booze K2 11:59 * Beholder delivers K2 a tumbler of the hard stuff, conjured by Rodney at 115 degrees Fahrenheit. 11:59 ^^ Much better. 11:59 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:00 hmm i can't find the seeds 12:00 GOGOGO 12:00 we are going 12:00 reload dgl 12:00 is there a special thing i gotta do to grab seeds? 12:00 okok 12:01 go to setseed submenu 12:01 got it :) 12:02 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 12:02 Odd, killed the priest. No body. 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by slightly wounded Ashikaga Takauji), on T:23654 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:23684 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23686 12:06 [hdf-us] [seed] BSOD2 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 12:06 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1425, rt[0:04:33] 12:08 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1464, rt[0:08:58] 12:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] priyavt (Kni Hum Mal Law), 241 points, T:2513, killed by an uninjured pony, while fainted from lack of food 12:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5040 12:10 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Necromancer, on T:55870 12:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 503 points, T:1263, killed by a dwarf 12:12 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2101, rt[0:12:17] 12:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2110 points, T:2748, [0:10:40], killed by a snake 12:12 rip 12:12 <@nabru> ripperoni 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2291 12:13 K2 can you set mintc for other players? 12:13 if so can you set mintc off for tommo and jonathanhanes? 12:13 I think it's off for habib already 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:24842 12:15 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: LuSfbW] 12:16 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Xra Mal Law), 1442 points, T:1704, quit 12:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:55940 12:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:55942 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of flying", on T:25067 12:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hilliance (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 237040 points, T:27929, quit 12:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6587 12:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2385, rt[0:07:33] 12:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2477, rt[0:07:48] 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2891 12:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6660 12:25 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2371 points, T:3601, [0:12:22], killed by a wounded owlbear 12:25 heck 12:25 rip 12:25 gogoog 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 6 points, T:422, killed by an uninjured jackal 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:25656 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:3008 12:28 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56600 12:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:7299 12:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed sack containing 33 items on an altar, on T:7305 12:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 198 points, T:819, zombified by a gnome zombie 12:29 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:56612 12:30 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4683, rt[0:30:42] 12:31 amateurhour: Perhaps you are mentally parsing "jonadab" as Jonah + stuff (and "bad" is a more familiar word than "dab"), rather than as yo-na-dav. 12:31 Or perhaps you are just lysdexic. 12:31 maybe yeah, though 'dab' is a weird dance thing 12:31 A "dab" is a small amount. 12:31 true 12:32 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1645, rt[0:06:55] 12:33 But really, Jonadab is NDV with a Y prefix stuck on; whereas Jonah is just YNH. They're not THAT similar. Unless you only know them in English. 12:34 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5114, rt[0:34:06] 12:34 Those darned native English speakers, they screw up all the foreign names. 12:34 is it possible to get a copy of all your soko pages somehow? 12:35 Oh, the sokoban spoilers? Hmm. 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25669 12:35 I suppose I could email you a copy. 12:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:56752 12:35 sweet 12:36 will tell an email address 12:38 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2816, rt[0:23:21] 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1004 points, T:1262, killed by a wounded Mordor orc 12:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3406 points, T:3644, [0:14:12], killed by a wounded werewolf 12:40 nou 12:40 T_T 12:40 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5771, rt[0:40:30] 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3182 12:40 gogogo 12:40 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law), 20443 points, T:5772, [0:40:35], quit 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3199 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger named +1 on an altar, on T:3203 12:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Wizard, on T:56861 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25710 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3076 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3076 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3091 12:43 [hdf-us] [un] Leficios (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4468 points, T:3788, killed by a Grey-elf, while sleeping 12:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:47 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:56941 12:47 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:56944 12:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9084 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:25842 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3900 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 6 darts on an altar, on T:3903 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3070110 points, T:166460, killed by a touch of death 12:52 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6494 points, T:2330, [0:11:55], quit 12:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:53 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1607, rt[0:12:27] 12:53 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3988 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:26065 12:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 410 points, T:626, [0:02:49], killed by a wounded giant mimic 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:66159 13:01 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2868 points, T:2644, [0:20:43], killed by an uninjured wolf, while praying 13:02 thanks jonadab <3 13:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1194 points, T:1724, [0:06:38], killed by a wounded Woodland-elf 13:03 boy 13:03 i think im running outa steam ^^; 13:04 how long do we go for? 13:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hilliance (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3283 13:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hilliance (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3283 13:04 up to 3h tommo 13:04 hahaha 13:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:10303 13:04 okay here we go 13:04 I believe in u tommo 13:04 you got this 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Odin, on T:3208 13:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3466 13:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:58402 13:09 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:1290, rt[0:05:07] 13:09 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1350, rt[0:05:18] 13:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:58511 13:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2106, rt[0:08:18] 13:15 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4940, rt[1:00:07] 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1478 points, T:4968, killed by an uninjured pony 13:19 @v?leocrotta 13:19 leocrotta (q) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Attacks: 2d6 claw physical, 2d6 bite physical, 2d6 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:56990 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:56992 13:21 -!- microla has joined #hardfought 13:22 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2671, rt[0:20:24] 13:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hilliance (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2009 points, T:4685, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 13:24 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 11079 points, T:4266, [0:20:02], killed by an uninjured mumak 13:25 !setmintc jonathanhanes 13:25 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for jonathanhanes removed. 13:25 !setmintc Tommo 13:25 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for tommo removed. 13:25 thanks K2 13:25 np 13:25 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:5437, rt[1:10:04] 13:26 been outside with my dog. its 56º F and sunny, too nice to stay in heh 13:26 ° 13:26 º 13:26 hah 13:26 ∞ 13:26 still have snow on the ground but its melting fast 13:27 imagine spending time outside when there's nethack to watch 13:27 <{Demo}3> its 61 out 13:28 it's 89 out here 13:30 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5737, rt[1:14:44] 13:30 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1067 points, T:1456, [0:05:19], poisoned by a snake 13:30 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: aNN7fc] 13:33 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5819, rt[1:17:41] 13:34 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4386, rt[0:32:25] 13:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:13345 13:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased magic mirror of merlin", on T:14025 13:39 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2626, rt[0:08:42] 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered Madonna, her faithful kitten, on T:845 13:42 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3563, rt[0:11:44] 13:44 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1693 points, T:4166, [0:13:48], killed by an uninjured gray unicorn 13:44 :| 13:44 rip 13:45 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: JSTfi3] 13:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:11866 13:45 heh ^^; 13:46 gogogo 13:46 I believe in you tommo you got this 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 163 points, T:448, killed by an uninjured bat 13:46 bless ur heart 13:46 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 239 points, T:379, [0:01:40], killed by a wounded homunculus, while sleeping 13:47 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6417, rt[1:31:40] 13:47 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 13433 points, T:6419, [0:45:09], killed by a bolt of lightning, while frozen by a potion 13:47 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: 2RScux] 13:47 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8395 points, T:6418, [1:32:04], quit 13:47 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:48 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:59811 13:50 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: F5ynWT] 13:51 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1296, rt[0:03:58] 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Mal Law), 2795 points, T:913, killed by a goblin outrider called U-grisaithos of Oggorogruk 13:51 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: LuSfbw] 13:52 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1127 points, T:1574, [0:05:29], killed by an uninjured water demon 13:53 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: 9axnUQ] 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2705 13:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:00 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: neEwEQ] 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed for the first time, on T:3011 14:02 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2066, rt[0:10:45] 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una) murdered Lola, her faithful homunculus, on T:54 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 62 points, T:56, killed by a sewer rat 14:07 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Xra Mal Law), 5938 points, T:3190, killed by a monster (reticulan) 14:08 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2355, rt[0:17:45] 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 496 points, T:907, killed by a boiling potion 14:08 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2932, rt[0:17:07] 14:09 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:1604, rt[0:08:30] 14:10 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1905, rt[0:10:08] 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:3677 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gnome leader corpse, on T:3679 14:13 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3783, rt[0:21:22] 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6145 points, T:5207, killed by brainlessness 14:19 -!- CNT-FAI has joined #hardfought 14:19 -!- CNT-FAI has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 14:19 -!- CNT-FAI has joined #hardfought 14:20 turns out humans need sleep 14:20 CNT-FAI: Message from Umbire at 2021-03-21 07:57 EDT: found Soko after climbing up from a deep-shafting via trap door, have more to share when you get back. also there's variable materials for statues too 14:20 CNT-FAI: Message from Umbire at 2021-03-21 08:18 EDT: also aosdict found and fixed the bug! 14:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:3780, rt[0:19:30] 14:20 nice 14:20 @umbire 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3686 points, T:4442, quit 14:21 after i streamed bzflag yesterday my old friend from school days texted me "Your favorite game has no graphics!" i didnt have the heart to tell her i went all the way to text after that 14:21 californians, what can you do 14:23 oh wow bzflag 14:23 i haven't heard that name in a very long time 14:23 its even better now 14:23 much like net hacks 14:23 wait was it always 3d 14:23 yar 14:24 <@deathsushi> The graphics... 14:24 oh yeah with the jumping 14:24 <@deathsushi> are up here 14:24 <@deathsushi> 14:24 all time favorite game of Silicon Graphics users 14:24 probably played bzflag 20 years ago the last time 14:25 old jewish man voice oh yeah with the jumping 14:26 slash frink voice 14:26 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5920, rt[0:34:40] 14:26 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 16414 points, T:5921, [0:34:51], quit 14:26 a bunch of league matches are on no jump maps 14:27 which is tough as the balls, but you regenerates like that 14:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4866, rt[0:28:03] 14:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 15509 points, T:4867, [0:28:10], quit 14:28 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: F5ynWT] 14:28 yay finally :3 14:29 nice one 14:29 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:61468 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (rust monsters), on T:29101 14:29 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: iBTbnr] 14:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:61487 14:33 starting a valkyrie run, all strategic input welcomed 14:34 <@deathsushi> facetank enemies 14:34 don't die 14:34 <@deathsushi> win game 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 614 points, T:2380, killed by a heavily wounded bugbear, while sleeping 14:34 <@deathsushi> 😉 14:34 <@deathsushi> Relish in the fact that you don't have to worry much about engraving elbereth 14:34 if u think about dying then that would be a mistake and i would recommend doing not that 14:34 <@deathsushi> (For real, valkyrie is pretty straight forward) 14:34 yes that is why i am doing that role 14:35 i am not the good at this game 14:36 [hdf-au] [nh370] naoky (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3153784 points, T:61520, ascended 14:36 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/naoky/nethack/dumplog/1616250163.nh.html 14:36 <@deathsushi> CNT-FAI You're coming along 14:36 <@deathsushi> Congrats naoky 14:36 appreciated but be aware that i first played in like 97/8 14:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:37 hopefully it takes this time 14:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:36663 14:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36664 14:38 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1826, rt[0:08:49] 14:39 yo I'm back, is the race still ongoing? who's winning? 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:6861 14:40 <@deathsushi> CNT-FAI — Likewise 14:40 <@deathsushi> And I had my first ascension about a month ago 14:40 oh neat 14:40 <@deathsushi> So there's hope for you yet! 14:40 it is ongoing, jon is winning atm as they've done a monk 14:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2434 points, T:2358, [0:10:53], killed by a heavily wounded ochre jelly 14:40 only 20 mins left for the race 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1780 points, T:6979, killed by a wounded bugbear 14:41 so the total time for the race is 3 hours? that's rather little time 14:41 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: d9dgcO] 14:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:41 to do mines+soko 3 times? 14:42 (plus retries if needed) 14:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:4016 14:42 well if only jonathan has one role done and the other two players have none, they're all still far from winning 14:43 I didn't mean it like 'lol thats e z' I meant it to check whether Amy though it was a whole-game race haha 14:43 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Mon Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:342, rt[0:01:44] 14:43 I see now that it could be read as either one 14:43 heh I'd probably need three hours to do mines and soko in vanilla, and possibly much longer in 3.7 due to all the added weirdness and harder early game :P 14:43 <@deathsushi> I know the expensive camera is really handy, but I always forget to use it when things get harry 14:43 they've all done valk, jon did monk additionally 14:44 oic 14:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4251 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2457 points, T:2836, killed by a wounded soldier ant, while taking off clothes 14:48 -!- LarienTelrunya is now known as AmyBSOD_afk 14:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 12340 points, T:9986, killed by a human soldier, while sleeping 14:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:5581 14:52 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5602, rt[1:01:54] 14:56 [hdf-us] [seed] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6100 points, T:4642, [0:27:13], killed by a slightly wounded crocodile 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1256 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3686 14:57 Amy there is also a time limit so if one player has a clear lead we call it a win for jon 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 3682 points, T:5709, killed by a wounded soldier ant 14:59 [hdf-us] [seed] habib (Mon Hum Fem Law), 4597 points, T:5770, [1:08:37], quit 14:59 tommo: we're wrapping up :) 14:59 coming up on three hours 14:59 alriiight 14:59 woop we done 15:00 <{Demo}3> jon won wow 15:00 awe man! 15:00 that was intense lol 15:00 !booze everyone 15:00 * Beholder passes everyone a tall glass of liquid courage, conjured by Rodney at 11 degrees Fahrenheit. 15:00 thanx 4 havin me play :) 15:00 it was so much fun to watch 15:01 i definitely felt a bit out of my depth but heck 15:01 i had fun 2 :) 15:01 you got some mad unlucky moments 15:01 ahaha 15:01 i guess so huh 15:01 tommo: you got haxxed so bad 15:01 i felt bad for u 15:01 i also jinxed you at some point 15:01 @e?dinni 15:01 dinni ~1~ djinni (&) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 2d8 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: flies, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 15:01 hehe im alright tho 15:02 i was like "oh tommo is in soko again lets see if they don't die" 15:02 you immediately died 15:02 im excited 2 watch :) 15:02 i felt bad 15:02 LOL 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:24176 15:02 like that exact moment 15:02 lmao 15:02 well yes, it makes sense u felt bad, all ur fault :P 15:02 :D 15:02 oh fuck i forgot iw as a dwarf and ate a dwarf lmaooooooooo 15:02 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 15:03 i kinda wanna play nethack now but im also sleeepy 15:03 tommo: :P 15:03 CNT-FAI: oof 15:03 how bad is it 15:03 being a cannibal 15:03 im only xl3 and can start over if it significantly affects my odds 15:03 -5 luck? 15:03 ah 15:03 i think u get aggravate monsters 15:03 does that mean no the excalibure 15:04 or is that pets 15:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:3697 15:04 that's pets 15:04 -(d4 + 1) luck 15:04 yeah i think it's aggravate and luck penalty tho 15:04 but could be both afaik 15:04 so -2-5 15:04 or is it just luck stenno? 15:04 luck and agg monster 15:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3845 15:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:3925 15:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3943 15:06 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4443 15:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:36818 15:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3080 15:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:36822 15:09 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 3246 points, T:2948, [0:28:14], quit 15:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5065 15:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5119 15:11 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Set, on T:5234 15:13 [hdf-us] [seed] Glord (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4529, rt[1:06:22] 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1596 points, T:2479, killed by a wounded ape 15:17 [hdf-us] [seed] Glord (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5345, rt[1:10:23] 15:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:1855 15:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3634 15:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3095 points, T:1923, killed by an uninjured giant ant, while praying 15:20 @e?priestess 15:20 priestess (@) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 2 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, infravisible 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 1573 points, T:1474, killed by a giant cockroach 15:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6896 15:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 12415 points, T:7841, killed by a heavily wounded chameleon imitating a displacer beast 15:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Val Dwa Fem Law), 686 points, T:3962, killed by strangulation 15:27 anyone know how to change my default sexual orientation in xNH options 15:29 i do not but it might be on the wiki somewhere i guess 15:29 it isn't in Options 15:29 OPTIONS=orientation:[orientation]. This can be "straight"/"heterosexual", "gay"/"homosexual", or "bi"/"bisexual". Y 15:29 ty 15:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/XNetHack 15:29 for all your xnh needs^ 15:32 <@deathsushi> lol whoops 15:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2173 points, T:6141, killed by a critically wounded giant mimic 15:32 <@deathsushi> Durp 15:33 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Esp Fem Cha), 10311 points, T:1785, killed by a monster (invisible needlessly bright lich) 15:35 <@deathsushi> Disco Lich 15:35 !lastgame amateurhour 15:35 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1589035969.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1616353860.slex.txt 15:36 something poly'd into it and I was like yolo 15:36 it was a dumb move 15:36 :) 15:36 ouch lol 15:37 my new slex game appears to be stuck 15:37 <{Demo}3> like endless loop? 15:37 yeah 15:37 probably on generating first floor 15:37 <{Demo}3> probably the endless loop nasty trap effect 15:38 softlock trap 15:38 <{Demo}3> better name 15:38 AmyBSOD_afk: depending how afk you are can you spectate current game? 15:40 rip game got killed 15:40 <@deathsushi> Do you always get a warning the first time you're about to break pacifist conduct, or is that unique to xnethack? 15:40 <@deathsushi> I've never had that before 15:43 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:43 K2 what happens when there's an infinite loop? it seemed to just get killed, starting game gives the recover menu, do you get any sort of stack from something killing it? 15:43 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 15:44 <@nabru> I think it's unique to xnethack 15:45 i thought nh4-like also had that 15:45 <@deathsushi> Okay, that makes sense 15:45 luxidream2: did you ask habib whatever it was you were gonna ask? :P 15:46 <{Demo}3> who played in the race? 15:46 <{Demo}3> jon/habib/???? 15:46 tommo 15:46 <{Demo}3> ah 15:46 habib #sat on a corpse and then typed #teabag lmao 15:47 my good idea for a new the role: Poisoner. distills potions of [sickness, confusion, etc] from the appropriate corpses 15:47 <{Demo}3> wow i missed advanced gameplay 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5654 15:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:2271 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] twiggets (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1479 points, T:1944, killed by an uninjured killer bee 15:49 yeah Demo it was great 15:49 K2: have you seen the latest evilhack thread on /r/nethack 15:49 * bhaak almost wrote RGRN as "the place where threaded discussion happens". old habits die hard 15:50 <{Demo}3> has anyone dewizardmoded mbm's save yet? 15:50 <@deathsushi> I see they removed the ability to determine health status of monsters using farlook in xnet 15:50 um i think lux played it a bit Demo 15:50 i vaguely remmeber something 15:50 <{Demo}3> i wrote a patch to do it but I can't load saves made from 2003 build nethack on my build 15:51 bhaak: do you offhand know of any strategy, crazy or otherwise, of porting 3.4.3 saves between platforms? 15:51 <{Demo}3> so it looks like i just need to hack the 2003 build 15:52 amateurhour: I once found a japanese server that had patch that transparently let you switch between binary and XML saves. 15:52 the code was ugly beyond belief but it worked 15:52 <@luxidream> I played it, did not attempt to dewiz 15:52 -!- AmyBSOD_afk is now known as LarienTelrunya 15:53 amateurhour: very afk in fact, but now I'm back 15:53 that's not a bad idea bhaak, some platform independent format 15:53 you could load a binary save and them save it in xml 15:55 there has been talk on the devteam about adding a platform independent save/bones format to nethack. nhmall has done some work there already and intends to somewhen go at it again 15:55 <{Demo}3> was just about to say that there should be 15:55 <{Demo}3> and that the dt should deal with that 15:55 <{Demo}3> cause thats like one of the few things that is their business 15:55 that'd be pretty neat 15:55 <{Demo}3> "do the boring improvements no one wants to deal with instead of making game changing changes" 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4442 points, T:6032, quit 15:56 might try find that patch if it still exists in the wild 15:56 amateurhour: urgh recover prompt upon trying to start a game? I'd in fact be interested in seeing a core dump of that 15:56 it was for one of the JP public servers right? maybe still exists in the wild somewhere 15:57 I should have a local copy somewhere. I tried it out. 15:57 wait how does hearse do it? 15:57 !tell K2 amateurhour apparently had a slex crash on hdf-eu, didn't try autorecover yet (we'll have to see how it goes), but is there a core dump? 15:57 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 15:58 stenno: inspect the binary 15:58 i thought the whole idea of that really nasty savegame format was to prevent savescumming 15:58 i see lol 15:58 stenno: the first thing the save/bones code does is write the version. 15:59 and the version compatibility bits 15:59 last time this happened Amy the autorecover option worked fine, just don't want to do it if there's any salvageable info from the saves 15:59 that's all hearse needs for make the exchange work. I almost wanted to write "safe" but that would be a lie 16:00 amateurhour: when was that "last time" 16:00 it's some kind of infinite loop when generating the first level I'd imagine 16:00 idk a few weeks ago? 16:00 wonder if there have been some nasty remote code execution exploits with hearse 16:00 I mentioned it at the time I think 16:00 if I could just get a meaningful core dump from that, I might finally figure out why the hell this stupid bug is happening 16:00 yeah 16:00 fingers crossed 16:00 tried so hard to reproduce it locally, but every time I have a debugger attached, it either never works or the debugger (gdb) crashes upon trying to invoke SIGINT :P 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:67571 16:01 gdb itself crashes? wat 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3950 16:01 yeah I must have a buggy version 16:01 run gdb inside gdb 16:01 :) 16:01 gdb being buggy lol 16:01 reflections on trusting trust 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4067 16:03 guh, the gdb version I have on this machine has the different bug where invoking SIGINT makes it get stuck on "Quit anyway? (y or n)" 16:03 no matter what I do, it keeps displaying that prompt, neither y nor n do anything 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4140 16:04 amateurhour: http://svn.phys98.homeip.net/jnethack/jnethack/branches/jnethack-save/ still online! after 10 years. but it's a subversion repository. but I can push my local git repo that I made from it. just a minute 16:05 <@Joanna> @stenno well this is kinda how solarwinds happened right. Trust and tool/supplychain attacks are huge 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4264 16:05 yeah 16:06 <@Joanna> Also discord is dangerous. Even when I'm outside for a walk it enables my irc addiction 16:07 woot nice find bhaak 16:07 amateurhour: https://github.com/bhaak/nethack-save-xml 16:07 thanks, got it 16:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 mithril large splint mail of decay", on T:58734 16:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:08 did I already give the reminder to update to a sane OS today Amy? 16:08 amateurhour: blah, that doesn't help me figure out the cause of the crash! 16:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2987 16:08 amateurhour: based on 3.4.3 (obviously), 3 commits on top of that. the first my usual changes for a linux compile, the second the added files from the upstream repo and the third all the changes to 3.4.3 files 16:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3098 16:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:4216 16:13 <@deathsushi> Nothing absurd about it, happens all the time 16:13 <@deathsushi> Whatevs 16:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4396 16:13 awe amateurhour, im jus seein ur streamside encouragement from this morning :3 16:14 v sweet <3 16:14 anyway I unfortunately have to go to bed now and probably won't be here until much later tomorrow, but amateurhour: hopefully we can get a backtrace of that weird crash (and please let me know if autorecover works once the backtrace thing is taken care of) :) 16:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] priyavt (Kni Hum Mal Law), 209 points, T:1052, killed by a wounded giant ant 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "sss", on T:4742 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:26167 16:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 490 points, T:2470, killed by a seriously wounded giant bat 16:15 will do Amy, sleep well 16:15 rip in priapism 16:15 thanks! you too! ♥ 16:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:15 forgot i had 3 wands, one of them was slow monster 16:16 the stream was so much fun, shame we have to wait two weeks for another one tommo 16:16 haha awe, agreed 16:17 welp, off to puyo puyo tetris 2, aka the only good the pure puzzler 16:17 enjoy CNT-FAI, seeya 16:18 ty (i will still be in the chat) 16:18 i guess if i want to compete in two weeks i should start training 16:18 i think this is a good the idea 16:18 practise?? as the number 2 tnnt player 2020?? 16:19 ikr i shouldn't _need_ to 16:19 just to make sure i slam the competition even more 16:19 hah 16:19 totally digging my own grave here btw 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3093 16:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] priyavt (Kni Hum Mal Law), 136 points, T:812, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse 16:20 seems like monk is a bit of a wildcard 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:28191 16:22 guess i could try it right now 16:22 wonder what the sequence for valk is 16:22 so go down to mines, get up to xl 5, then get exca, do soko 16:22 hmm 16:23 but you want key or pickaxe from mines 16:23 so probably mines first without exca 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3384 16:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6032 16:26 could get exca in MT on the way up lol 16:26 probably not worth it 16:26 lets see then 16:27 I think I just rushed excal out of the mines and did soko 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3680 16:27 the odds of getting a wand that opens the door stealthily is pretty good 16:28 as in didn't go to mines at all 16:28 but then again I splatted a lot so probs not best strategy 16:29 why does Everyl's game have the colors and a longer the terminal 16:30 these colors denoting BUC are the good 16:30 check menucolors and statuscolors options 16:31 nice 16:31 ty 16:31 i do not have these options, do i just do like 1 16:32 or just like OPTIONS=menucolors,statuscolors 16:32 no 16:32 how'm do i do this goodly 16:33 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#menucolors 16:33 ty 16:33 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#hilite_status 16:35 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 16:35 [hdf-eu] [seed] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 280 points, T:645, rt[0:02:34], wc[20 days, 16:12:00], killed by an uninjured kitten, while sleeping 16:35 [hdf-eu] [seed] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: foo\xc3\xb0bar] 16:36 also how do i get a permanent inventory list next to the field 16:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4623 16:37 honestly i kind of just want to copy deathsushi's if taht is the okay 16:38 For vanilla nethack, I copied my settings from bouquet 16:38 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/bouquet.nhrc 16:38 ah i play x 16:38 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/xnethack/bouquet.xnhrc 16:39 I think they also play xnh 16:39 <@deathsushi> What's the command to see details about myself? 16:39 ctrl+X 16:39 sorry 16:39 <@deathsushi> Thank you 16:39 oh no its right 16:39 yeah 16:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 30450 points, T:18323, killed by a critically wounded owlbear 16:40 neat ty 16:40 [hdf-eu] [seed] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1203 points, T:1230, [0:05:08], fell into a pit 16:40 bruh 16:40 rip 16:41 amateurhour, I got this email about an hour ago 16:41 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-03-21 15:57 EDT: amateurhour apparently had a slex crash on hdf-eu, didn't try autorecover yet (we'll have to see how it goes), but is there a core dump? 16:41 hdf-eu: CPU load from process /slex-2.7.0/slex -u amateurhour ( PID: 8576 ) User: games has reached 99% for 2:59.92. Process was killed. 16:41 that sure looks like an infloop 16:41 wow 16:41 infinite loops tend to not leave a coredump 16:42 because there wasnt a crash 16:42 i'll look anyways 16:42 it should be possible to dump on SIGKILL 16:42 but idk if nethack *does* that 16:43 no coredump 16:43 The awesome 16:43 Rip In Pit, stenno 16:43 it was a landmine 16:43 before i stepped on it 16:43 THe likely story 16:44 yeah figured K2, is there any way we can get a stack trace in future do you think? 16:44 this happens every so often when starting a slex game 16:45 bhaak I just read the new evilhack reddit 16:45 heh 16:46 amateurhour it would help if i knew what the very last action was before the inf loop occurred 16:46 well, would help amy rather 16:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:5581 16:46 starting the game 16:46 lol 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:4592 16:47 wow 16:47 what combo did you choose? 16:47 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 16:47 missingno gamebreaker 16:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:5705 16:48 Monk, Spirit, no hybrid race, chaotic -> crash 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1086 points, T:2802, quit 16:48 well, infinite loop rather than crash 16:48 actually seems to crash before the confirm screen? (looking back at ttyrec) 16:48 does that happen without fail or just sometimes? 16:49 just sometimes, I've played this combo a few times 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2675 16:49 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/ttyrec/2021-03-21.19:36:51.ttyrec.gz if you're curious 16:49 ok. it's probably a specific piece of gear that a starting monk gets 16:50 Hello Nabru, welcome to SlashEMExtended! You are a chaotic male spiritual Monk. 16:50 It worked for me right now 16:51 oh female as well, not that that matters 16:51 it's a good combo, highly recommend 16:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9096 16:56 !tell LarienTelrunya Recovery failed. On a public server this may be caused by disconnects, 16:56 Will do, amateurhour! 16:56 in which case you may need to wait some minutes until file lock is cleared. 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 78 points, T:522, killed by a wounded small mimic 16:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7064 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] LovelyKittenz (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 111 points, T:446, killed by a wounded sewer rat 17:03 slash'em and slex generate the most killprocess emails I get 17:04 understandable 17:07 I wonder if we can dump stack trace at sigkill 17:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:08 I mean I know it's possible to, I mean if we should do that 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3451 17:15 [hdf-us] [seed] Glord (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4202 points, T:6707, rt[1:17:58], wc[6:34:42], killed by a wounded soldier ant 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1307 points, T:3676, killed by an uninjured dingo, while fainted from lack of food 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 6904 points, T:5757, killed by a wounded fire ant 17:16 The Crimenal 17:17 -!- CNT-FAI has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:17 -!- CNT-FAI has joined #hardfought 17:18 trying another prirestess 17:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Mal Non), 221665 points, T:22707, quit 17:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Hum Fem Neu) murdered The_Violence, her faithful little dog, on T:294 17:22 dang 17:23 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Chn Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1928 17:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Pir Inc Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:20011 17:37 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Chn Mal Law), 4233 points, T:2826, mowed down by a panther 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 130 points, T:773, killed by an uninjured bat 17:38 Neko-chan: do you have any tips for changeling? I guess shopkeeper and priest from minetown is pretty good? 17:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10820 17:38 I do a changeling dragonmaster and enjoy becoming a dragon to lay eggs. 17:38 oh wow that sounds really epic 17:39 changeling tip, don't trust Gul Dukat 17:39 turning into shopkeepers and other high level mobs is good too. You want to have a few of those in your list as escape forms that don't blow up your stuff 17:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:10934 17:40 <@luxidream> why does it ignore valid polymorph form lol 17:40 because it's epic 17:40 and fun 17:40 can you turn into rodney as a changeling? 17:41 I hope so 17:41 <@luxidream> this seems busted 17:41 <@luxidream> kinda want to try it 17:42 it's not as busted as doppelganger 17:42 what's the difference between doppelganger and changeling? 17:43 doppelganger has controlled polyself into any valid polyform at-will from xlvl 9 17:43 (slash'em) 17:43 and changelings have to interact with a monster in some way to imitate it? 17:43 so once you're level 9 you can just walk around as a fire vampire or whatever and enjoy your superpowers 17:43 yeah, and once turned into them you lose the ability to turn into them again until after you revert and chat again 17:44 <@luxidream> ok so you find unchanging, and spend the rest of the game as a shk 17:44 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F72%2F15%2Fbd%2F7215bd108ef977171a8c0d1271e45294.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 17:44 <@luxidream> you have 2 weapon 4d4 attacks and speed 18 17:45 <@luxidream> strong to negate the changeling's godawful stats 17:45 compare with fire vampire then 17:45 Claw 2d4 fire, Claw 2d4 fire, Bite 2d4 drain life, Touch 2d4 drain energy, Spell-casting 2d12 fire 17:45 in slash'em claw attacks count as weapon attacks 17:45 if you're poly'd 17:45 iirc? 17:45 maybe it's just martial arts 17:46 speed 24 17:46 https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/017/204/CaptainAmerica1_zps8c295f96.JPG 17:46 <@luxidream> what about a pet archon 17:47 <@luxidream> you can talk to it forever 17:47 true that sounds epic 17:47 didn't think of that 17:48 did splicehack add a lot of slash'em monsters? 17:48 you probs want a pet Solar instead of Archon 17:49 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Planetar_and_Solar 17:49 <@luxidream> I don't think solars were added 17:49 <@luxidream> at least I never saw any 17:49 they're on the splicehack monsters wiki page 17:49 if I get a couple of early wishes I'll try a pet solar and unchanging... 17:49 don't even need unchanging 17:50 "And now it's changed. The changeling" https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.b-6ZS54IMHOX204dSHK5LgHaFj%26pid%3DApi&f=1 17:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby long worm, on T:12883 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3208 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:13697 17:55 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Chn Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1077 17:56 does a -1 ring of protection (uncursed) still protect you to some degree? is it worse than not wearing one 17:57 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law), 809 points, T:1932, killed by a crossbow bolt 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3388 17:58 <@riker> yes it mostly is CNT 17:58 ty 17:58 <@riker> -1 AC for sure 17:58 ah! 17:58 <@riker> it might still be a little bit of MC but I don't know if it has to be positively enchanted for that 17:58 not worth 17:58 what is MC btw 17:59 <@riker> magic cancellation, reduces odds for special effects from monster attacks 17:59 ahhh 17:59 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law), 663 points, T:1038, killed by a crossbow bolt 18:00 <@riker> i.e. poison from a poison bite, being turned to slime, level drain from vampires or wraiths, etc. 18:00 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Chn Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed figurine of Solar", on T:1281 18:00 <@riker> max is lvl 3, which is like 80% or 90% protection 18:00 <{Demo}3> early game wish = definitely cheating 18:00 <{Demo}3> playing a monk = probably not fair 18:00 <{Demo}3> whats a chn? 18:01 Chinese 18:01 <{Demo}3> this isnt slex 18:01 nerfed doppelganger that isn't really nerfed because no polyform restriction despite downsides 18:01 as luxidream pointed out 18:01 <{Demo}3> ah, changeling 18:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Pir Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:20952 18:01 <{Demo}3> slex has a few nationalities as roles/races/idk at this point 18:02 "Why wouldn't he?" - Master Shake 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 468 points, T:3659, killed by an uninjured gnome, while sleeping 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68085 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:68088 18:05 it is as busted as it seems 18:05 lol 18:05 wish I had a magic whistle 18:07 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law) entered a shop, on T:3069 18:07 you don't lost particularly long in the polyform to be fair so it's a little annoying 18:07 i found 7 eucalyptus leafs in a tree on this run i just need to bless them 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:68112 18:08 nethack characters should be able to whistle 18:09 give it to humans so they're not just the bad ones 18:09 no need to find a tin whistle, you can whistle at the castle drawbridge to open it 18:09 true 18:09 could be a good bonus for a bard role tbh 18:09 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3627 18:09 a chaotic character should be able to whistle horribly on purpose 18:10 does that annoy peacefuls around you? :P 18:10 should be able to annoy anything imo 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4303 18:10 It Is Just My View Only. 18:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 260 points, T:1218, killed by an uninjured hobbit 18:11 wolf whistling werewolves 18:11 the possibilities are endless 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4967 points, T:4347, killed by a wounded soldier ant 18:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Yeo Elf Mal Law), 19613 points, T:20920, quit 18:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:17 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:20 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:21 a hearing monster should lose a turn or two involuntarily protecting themself from the noise, assuming they have some intrinsic means of doing so 18:21 though i assume this would alert monsters and enrage the monster in question 18:21 a bard should perhaps be able to whistle so as to break potions 18:21 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law), 2612 points, T:4316, dismembered by a parrot 18:23 well, with sufficient dx/wi or such 18:23 Rip In Parrot 18:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:17836 18:26 <@luxidream> amateurhour: you can roll for a random monster by holding down enter 18:26 <@luxidream> and getting "that's enough tries!" 18:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a short sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:39449 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:68322 18:28 what should i call a scroll that evaporates with no particular effect 18:28 no obvious effect* 18:29 evaporates when you read it, or when a monster reads it, or when you pick it up? 18:30 i read it 18:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1671 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Enchanter, on T:16612 18:32 did you get any message at all or was there absolutely zero feedback? 18:32 none 18:32 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 18:33 some scrolls will have no obvious effect if e.g. it's a scroll of gold detection and there's no gold on the level. or it's a scroll of destroy armor and you are wearing no armor 18:33 but I think you still get some kind of message in those cases 18:33 like "you have a strange feeling for a moment, then it passes" maybe 18:33 can always call it by its label and 'no effect' or something 18:33 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:68466 18:34 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law), 3954 points, T:2177, quit 18:34 there is no reason i would mistake that for no message qt 18:36 CNT-FAI, i think taming is likely 18:37 create monster, if you didn't see its effect (invisible monster, or you are blind) 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2021 18:37 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:37 ah thanks, probably tame 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:16672 18:38 taming prints "nothing interesting happens" if there are no valid monsters doesn't it? 18:39 oh? that must be new(ish) 18:39 for the record i could see and there was a small mimic nearby (but a couple of tiles away) 18:39 which i was aware of as a monster causing me concern 18:40 qt is correct for 3.6.0 and newer 18:40 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1433 18:40 playing x 18:40 CNT-FAI is playing xnh so it should apply there 18:41 interesting wrinkle: just price-identified a scroll in the shop as possibly being tame (not the scroll we've been discussing( 18:41 oh, sorry. i don't know x at all 18:41 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law) had Hand Grenade of Antioch bestowed upon them by the Archomentals, on T:2020 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 300 points, T:177, killed by a pseudodragon 18:42 !lastgame nabru 18:42 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1616366440.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1605872855.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 18:44 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Nbn Law), 4577 points, T:2266, caught themself in their own magical blast 18:44 <@luxidream> wroth 18:44 <@luxidream> worth 18:44 <@luxidream> I wanted to see how much damage it did 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2113 18:49 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1876 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1034 points, T:2696, killed by a slightly wounded gray unicorn, while praying 18:51 CNT-FAI: where did you read the scroll 18:51 was it in a small room or a corridor? 18:51 corridor 18:51 it was a scroll of water 18:51 (i said i was outside of a shop btw) 18:51 ah thanks 18:51 scroll of water doesn't print any message if it fails to create pools nearby due to terrain 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:60405 18:52 nice 18:53 it does seem to be the exception in that regard, aosdict maybe it should print some kind of message like other scrolls do when they fail? 18:53 You suddenly notice the dryness of your surroundings 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:60505 18:54 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Fem Law), 2892 points, T:2577, killed by a shotgun shell 18:55 yeah or you notice condensation forming on the floor nearby, but it quickly evaporates... something like that 18:55 that's a good one 18:55 that wouldn't make much sense if you were blind though i guess 18:56 well, just cut out 'on the floor' 18:56 where the condensation forms is not a huge detail and there are many senses that could potentially allow you to notice condensation forming 18:56 here's a potshot: You feel inconsequentially wet 18:57 or "You notice the dungeon is not currently experiencing drought conditions" 19:00 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Chn Fem Law), 811 points, T:1725, taken down by a rothe 19:00 sup peeps 19:00 "The air suddenly feels very humid" is another one that wouldn't rely on sight 19:00 oh hey lux is messing with splice 19:01 fun 19:01 hey aoei 19:01 hey qt 19:01 soemtimes when i see you around i want to call you a QT but i don't want to seem overly flirtatious its just too easy a joke to make with your nick 19:02 here's an option, from bzflag: Quick Turn 19:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:04 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 19:04 oh no i scared them away 19:04 even with the caveates 19:04 for exampel: now that's a quick turn! 19:04 hahahaha 19:05 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 19:05 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Wiz Chn Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1300 19:05 am sleepy 19:05 how r u CNT-FAI 19:05 and how are you qt 19:05 pain 19:05 awe 19:05 It is not so easy to open this tin. You hear some cursing! 19:06 nabru: lol 19:06 :D 19:06 yeah ive been minimizing the weed bc dental surgery 19:06 I laughed 19:06 ah right yea you were sayin about that last night 19:06 f 19:06 but i get terrible chronic the pain 19:06 so it is a suck 19:06 "OH F#@*%@#%( I ACCIDENTALLY SLICED OPEN MY FINGER WHILE OPENING THAT GODDAMN TIN" 19:06 nabru: oof 19:06 im gonna bite the bullet and go smoke in a minute i just dw bc outside 19:06 but, at least i'ts legal here now 19:06 ah right 19:06 noice 19:07 that has been a relief yeah 19:07 !rng do some more reading | idle on irc until i feel like passing out 19:07 aoei: do some more reading 19:07 i have like 3 or 4 legal cases about it which is insanely stupid in my the opinion 19:07 screw you Beholder what if i dont wanna :C 19:07 beholder doesn't know everything 19:07 tru 19:08 i might actually play nethack a bit but im too sleepy to resume my speedrun save 19:08 maybe ill mess around in xnh or smth 19:08 i wa sjust reading about how dragon scales works in that on wiki earlier its pretty cray 19:09 the new dragon scale system in xnh? I want to try that out too 19:09 idk how long that's even been a thing 19:09 i dont remember taht being a thing last june 19:10 and i think i did manage at least an astral splat last june in xnh 19:10 if not an ascension 19:10 lol 19:10 I think aosdict just finished/added it a week or two ago 19:10 ah ok thats super new 19:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:26397 19:10 !role xnh 19:10 aoei: knight 19:11 lol hell no 19:11 !role xnh 19:11 aoei: archeologist 19:11 suggest something not trash please beholder 19:11 or i'll just pick wiz 19:11 !role xnh 19:11 aoei: monk 19:11 ehh ok that might actaully be fun what the heck 19:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a potion of water on an altar, on T:3940 19:12 !8ball am I gonna reread the full xnh wiki page to check for other changes i don't know about yet? 19:12 aoei: Cannot predict now 19:12 lol Beholder that was an obvious no, gotta step ur game up 19:12 wont playing monk mean you don't get the full dragon scale experience due to the body armor restrictions 19:13 ehhhh 19:13 idk really what they are, is it just a negative to your hit chance or something? I haven't ever really played monk seriously 19:13 if i polyself its fine i think 19:13 unless aosdict nerfed that get-out lol 19:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 1189 points, T:3768, killed by an arrow 19:13 also with max luck it's not too terrible 19:13 iirc body armour is -20 to-hit 19:13 max luck is +13 19:13 so at high xl it's not *that* bad 19:14 also leads to interesting questions like, do dragon scales by themselves count as body armour for the to-hit penalty under the new system? 19:14 i don't remember whether or nor that was made clear on the wiki bit about it 19:14 yeah I was about to say something similar, they go in the cloak slot now right? 19:14 it's possible that you can just wear robe and scales 19:14 um is it cloak slot i thought separate but i dont recall 19:15 gonna reread that section 19:15 idk maybe it is a separate thing 19:15 oh yeah ok it is cloak slot 19:15 according to the page 19:15 so gotta balance that with robe's spell-casting boost until i bite the bullet and merge the scales with some body armour 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1227 points, T:3209, killed by a wounded hill orc 19:16 if i get that far i will probably hope for a polykit and an artiweap anyway 19:16 and amateurhour isn't even here to give me dirty looks about it 19:17 hmmmm do i play chaotic like i always play chaotic or go for lawful monk and excal strats 🤔 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Mal Law), 2866 points, T:2979, quit 19:20 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Wiz Chn Fem Cha), 8284 points, T:3065, killed while stuck in creature form 19:21 nymph stole all my stuff and I'm not in the mood to deal with it 19:21 !rng lawful | chaotic 19:21 aoei: lawful 19:21 ok i guess law monk 19:21 nabru: lol honestly sometimes i rage quit at that point 19:21 depends on my level of tilt 19:21 mess around with xnh, aoei. that is a form of the Learning 19:21 oh yeah i plan to 19:21 at least for a bit 19:21 im quite tired tho 19:23 this is a good condition in which to dick around in x 19:24 so as to preserve the optimum thinking time for your speedrun 19:24 lol 19:24 nice ok imma do it 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:31045 19:29 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1599 19:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1548 points, T:4651, killed by an uninjured kobold lady, while fainted from lack of food 19:30 Ouches 19:30 jeez mag lamp actually costs a fortune now 19:30 750gp lol 19:30 but i want iiiiiiit 19:30 Same 19:31 that was supposed to be a sex work joke i didnt see you were going to say you wanted the item making it a tamer joke about wanting an item which i in fact do not know what it Is 19:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Nbn Law), 2772 points, T:1744, killed by a shotgun shell 19:32 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 19:33 abalebo offers 1250 gold pieces for your emerald. Sell it? [ynaq] (n) 19:33 POG 19:33 <@luxidream> i am attempting to use the shopkeeper form to kill the shopkeepers 19:33 <@luxidream> so far with varying success 19:33 blessed it too 19:33 hahaa nice lux 19:33 [spy shopkeeper guy from the star trek grins impishly] 19:33 waht does xnh law monk wish for 🤔 19:34 ohw ait i forgot to change align in rc file 19:34 legal education 19:34 i am chaotic 19:34 i could wish for stormy lmao 19:34 wish for stimmy 19:34 but that doesn't unrestrict 19:34 you should be able to wish for the world peace (Just with an extremely small chance of getting it) 19:34 and i could crown for it if i can arrange to have the book, unless xnh did something to make monk crowning less god-awful 19:35 lol CNT-FAI 19:35 or wish to change a law of physics 19:35 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Fem Law), 276 points, T:684, killed by a gold shotgun shell 19:35 that... could lead to some interesting gameplay if if it could be implemented somehow 19:35 or like a pizza delivery service 19:35 wish for pizza delivery in general 19:35 or a Kiki's delivery service 19:36 i do'nt know what a Kiki is and why i would order one 19:36 but yes 19:36 it is either a studio ghibli anime film, or a service that delivers you a party 19:36 up to you how you interpret it 19:36 i think in general, if it represents a service such as the grub hub, etc you should be able to wish for it 19:36 that's the only way out of this mess 19:36 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGCD4xb-Tr8 have a related instructional vid 19:37 i recently enjoyed a song written for a cartoon for the first time btw 19:37 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY5EPix0DP8 19:38 that is very instructuional aeoi 19:39 lol i wish i could move like those dancers 19:39 but srsly i dk what to wish for 19:39 oh wait 19:39 imagine wishing for that ingame 19:39 sadly i think it wont help 19:40 i did in fact know what that kind of kiki was btw 19:40 aha 19:40 but i knew it was a reference to a thing i did not inf act know what it was 19:40 but i pretty much knew what kind of film it was 19:40 so, complex situation' 19:41 lol 19:41 well, all was revealed 19:41 also kiki's delivery service is a super cute movie 19:41 i recommend 19:41 ugh, ad for raya starkly reminds of how Awkwafina has totally dropped the whole blackface act but kept the name that got famous on it 19:41 i wasn't really acutely aware of it 19:42 i saw my first few episodes of teen titans the go the other ngiht and the wizard of awards song has been stuck in my head for a couple days 19:42 huhwhat. dont think iknow about any of that 19:42 i usually hate songs written for a cartoon episode so im intrigued that i like it because it's clearly intentionally annoying 19:42 but i like it a lot 19:42 imagine i spend ages agonising about my wish and the lamp gives me zilch 19:42 yeah awkwafina used to do the whole like talking and acting black for money thing 19:42 oh i dint click your link yet hang on 19:43 not the literal blackface but definitely appropriating 19:43 aoei: Rub first, agonise second? 19:43 Pinkbeast: agonising while the wish prompt is up makes me nervous lol 19:43 but sure 19:43 let's go 19:43 LOLK 19:43 "you disturbed me! fool" 19:43 well shit 19:43 hahahaha 19:43 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:43 let see who kills who 19:43 noo 19:43 that sucks lol 19:43 oh it has a bloody magic missile wand too 19:43 that was around the last time i was aware of the kind of movie she'd be in so seeing that ad was a shockingly stark reminder 19:43 rip my game 19:44 * Umbire aims a wand of death at aoei 19:44 bc now she just talks like, well, herself 19:44 [hdf-eu] [xnh] aoei (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 3106 points, T:1050, killed by a magic missile 19:44 idk maybe i could arun away 19:44 probably salvagable 19:44 Oh boo, beat me to it 19:44 too tilted to care 19:44 damn angry djinn that sucks 19:44 but it wasnt like she became an activist and made up for her shit, she just started quietly not doing that 19:44 aoei: :c 19:44 * Umbire offers another hug coupon 19:44 nah thats ok umby lol 19:44 thanks tho 19:44 also nice to see ya again Rif! 19:44 tghe bird in the video is also funny if you are me and thus very similar to the bird in my youth 19:44 gad damn it 19:45 thanks umb, you helpesd me have a lot of fun being a chaotic preistess 19:45 is Rif the same person as CNT-FAI 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Mal Law), 5614 points, T:2463, killed by a black pudding 19:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:45 you shouldve seen how quickly i went from rolling through the dungeon to Dead this time umb 19:45 ao: yes 19:45 ah ok cool 19:45 according to DSM 5 19:45 also i ahve no idea what is going on in this vid you linked lol 19:45 im getting a you-still-havent-watched-the-video vibe 19:45 oh lol 19:46 timing 19:46 it turns into a song in a sec 19:46 idk the characters either really 19:46 no vid is already over 19:46 and my attention span is terrible so i already forog the song 19:46 is okay, it is still there 19:46 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Fem Law), 2804 points, T:1272, killed by a copper shotgun shell 19:46 yeah ijust restarted the vid lol 19:46 i dont think theres much to the story other than what they reveal in the dialogue in the vid 19:47 a witch is mad at the protagonist and also hates him in general and thinks he's ugly, but paparazzi separate them 19:47 this is so weird 19:47 but fun 19:47 i believe he has killed her brother 19:47 now im paying bit more attn 19:47 3hahaha 19:47 witch was scared by an expensive camera 19:47 so now having gotten away he is off to get an award that he feels is easy 19:47 that's a nethack ref right there 19:48 its kind of a 2020 mood like, this shit sucks let's go get some awards to feel better 19:48 the song was ok 19:48 lol 19:48 then he runs into the bird who is an anarchist who wants to make people pay attention to his politics 19:48 oht heres more song 19:48 cuz bird now 19:48 yeah it stops and then the bird joins the song 19:48 this bit is a bit better 19:48 than first song bit 19:48 agreed 19:48 its where i came in 19:48 on the tg 19:48 tv* 19:49 ah right lol 19:49 all i knew was the protagonist was convincing an anarchist to go get awards with him 19:49 and i was like, this is the relatable 19:49 im getting some very heavy wizard of oz vibes from this idk what it is 🤔 19:49 yeah the characters are doing a wizard of oz thing 19:49 except it's the wizard of awards 19:49 yeah lol 19:49 i dont think ive ever watched this show tbh 19:50 i like how it strips down the whole wizard of oz thing into a pretty selfish move 19:50 me neither much but 19:50 i recently realized it is where my old friend in school days picked up his weird fun way of talking (like inserting "the" inappropriately etc) 19:50 a lot of the characters speak like the bird 19:50 btw this was like 20 years ago and was from the precursor sho wwhich was just called teen titans 19:51 !8ball am i gonna try xnh again? 19:51 aoei: Yes 19:51 !8ball am i gonna do that some other time and just shitpost on irc til i feel like going to bed? 19:51 aoei: Outlook good 19:51 i like that the bird is just totally manipulating people 19:51 in my opinion, it is fun to do the both 19:51 STR-FAI 19:52 oh yea that's legit 19:52 like I can't not thing of Teen Titans reading that quirk 19:52 i think in the show episode they sing the song more after that video ends 19:52 like the cowardly lion one joins in 19:53 i haven't seen hardly any of either show 19:53 for some reason i thought the original was like cheap teen exploitation and being a teen i resented that 19:54 lol nice 19:54 i was a fairly pretentious teen 19:54 same 19:54 last night we were discussing how i refused to see both johnny mnemonic and hackers until a few years ago 19:54 which in retrospect was outrageously dickish and why i didnt have friends irl 19:55 so, i have some affection for the weird talking that reminds me of the guy who hung out with me anyway 19:56 when we met he was an ancom and i was very not, and i didnt like him bc he was left wing, but he ended up charming me anyway. when i went to see jimmy eat world he scoffed bc they were sellouts. he is now an ecommerce manager and defended the prosecution of aaron schwartz to me the last time we talked bc the prsoecutor was his cousin or something and was "Just doing his job" 19:56 huh. 19:56 yeah, disappointing 19:56 very. 19:57 blaaaaaah 19:57 such is the life of the bourgeoisie 19:57 just got home. had to run into work 19:57 waaaaaaaaaaaaaah 19:58 welcome home larger K2 19:58 how is the smaller one 19:58 had a power blip earlier in the day which normally isnt a big deal, but the AC in the server room didnt start back up 19:58 things started to get... warm 19:58 alert emails started flying 19:58 there are two k2s now? did k2 undergo mitosis while I was gone 19:58 had to rush over and reset the AC 19:58 :) 19:59 that whole "if youre not left in your youth you have no heart, if youre not right in old age you have no money" thing is usually just an illusion caused by rich people living longer and not dying of guns or diseases as much, but in his case it was just a natural evolution when he went from a child with a strong sense of justice surrounded by wealthy dickheads to a person with as much wealth as he desired 20:00 qt - there can be only one 20:00 the other is k4 20:01 sh... we do not speak of M4 lest we provoke his wrath 20:02 ah, M4...he appears when you divide m8 by k2 20:02 You had power blips too huh 20:02 ah dividing m8s in half 20:02 my favorite pasttime 20:03 i had this fun thing when i was a teen where i thought i ruled because i liked to do the coke and become even more talky than this, and unfortunately a number of people agreed 20:03 lmao wew 20:03 it turns out that is how you get the Hypertension 20:04 dividing m8s in half > okay who got their hands on vorpal blade again 20:04 now you just do x 20:04 heyoooooooooooo 20:05 btw aoei ty for pointing out that witch/camera thing was a nh ref, probably intentional 20:05 No, aos, that's beheading 20:05 I do that as a hobby 20:05 You're thinking of bisecting 20:05 i didnt notice bc i havent done any deep tourist runs 20:05 * Umbire wields The Tsurugi of Muramasa 20:05 ahahha CNT-FAI idk if it was intentional of the show (is nethack that big) 20:05 Wait what witch/camera thing 20:05 but its fun to interpret it as such 20:05 yes 20:06 in my defense I'm really tired 20:06 i first found out about nethack from the free instructional booklet that came with our internet access in '97 20:06 it ok so am I 20:06 wait really? o: 20:06 it's like a fundamental post-cyberpunk-age internet thing 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 403 points, T:1983, killed by a dart 20:06 yeah it's huge for nerds other than of the like, windows nt variety 20:06 aosdict: i managed to id an emerald and sell it in order to buy this crazy expensive lamp in minetown 20:07 was lucky enough to find random holy water in the dungeon 20:07 got killed by an angry djinn :( 20:07 i would be very surprised if the teen titans goers didnt know about the net hack 20:07 it's much more obscure now than it was when they would have came of age 20:08 i ended up getting into it because it became even more ubiquotous than stuff like D&D among the nerds i hung out with online based on a game creation system called megazeux, which essentially became a subset of minecraft userbase 20:08 [hdf-eu] [slshm] HarmathZsolt (Und Hob Fem Law), 16371 points, T:12029, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted human mummy 20:09 imo it's more likely the cartoon and NH are both drawing from the same cliche of blinding someone with a camera flash, rather than one being inspired by the other 20:09 but maybe 20:09 nah the witch thing is pretty specific 20:09 they're even foreigners, if not quite tourists 20:09 but an irish in LA is one of the more common real life forms of the tourist role 20:10 qt: awe you gotta go and ruin the fun with a sensible interpretation 20:10 and, why wasnt the protagonist affected 20:10 im sticking to my guns on this 20:12 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4365 20:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:30253 20:13 im gonna shoot some bz tanks and then do more x 20:15 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Fem Law) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:5092 20:15 bz tanks? 20:16 http://www.bzflag.org 20:16 O: 20:16 more FOSS? 20:17 yeah, a real good one 20:17 sweet! 20:17 also helps that a lot of the major servers are in nj 20:17 whoa, bzflag is still around, I played it many years ago when I got started with Linux 20:17 oh its multiplayer battlezone? 20:17 like the arcade game? 20:17 yeah 20:17 it was big on linux back in the day but the OS of which it is the most popular game is/was actually Silicon Graphics 20:18 i actually encountered it on demo laptops at computer stores/shows back when it was pretty impressive 20:18 it is more complex now and is even more fun, much like a net hack 20:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:30907 20:19 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Fem Law), 34355 points, T:6695, inhumed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food 20:24 <@deathsushi> CNT-FAI — How's your run going rif? 20:24 <@deathsushi> Luxi: inhumed? 20:24 <@deathsushi> What even is that?! 20:24 tr.v. in·humed, in·hum·ing, in·humes. To place in a grave; bury. [French inhumer, from Old French, from Latin inhumāre : in-, in; see in-2 + humus, earth; see dhghem- in Indo-European roots .] 20:24 i.e. u ded muthafucka 20:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:27 and there I was thinking pratchett made it up 20:27 "whoops you hit 0 HP, time to GET IN THE GROUND" 20:28 * Umbire suddenly feels like listening to Coheed and Cambria 20:28 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Fem Law), 1204 points, T:743, killed by a bolt of cold 20:29 <@deathsushi> aosdict: did you get the bug report I sent you? 20:29 <@deathsushi> Umbire: y'ded 20:29 <@deathsushi> I guess that makes sense. exhumed means pulled out of the ground 20:31 @deathsushi the "attempting to give intrinsic 0" one? yes I fixed that 20:31 <@deathsushi> aosdict: Sweet 20:31 Yeah me and Rif got the same 20:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Fem Law), 286 points, T:779, killed by a mithril shotgun shell 20:32 <@deathsushi> Man, 6 strength.. Poison is rough 20:33 just made a massive mistake. worn levitation boots that were cursed, but had cancellation in my inventory, so I dropped all my stuff... including the wand 20:33 D: 20:33 now can't pick anything from the ground 20:35 <@deathsushi> Oof. You need a nymph 20:35 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35 :D 20:35 Just when you need one... 20:35 you can't find one 20:35 <@deathsushi> I'm at 6 STR, my god is mad at me, and I accidentally ate a corpse of my own race. Want to see who gets out of this first? 😄 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1380 points, T:1166, quit 20:36 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 20:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed zor's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:11370 20:36 <@deathsushi> Haha, okay, I guess I win the race 20:36 <@deathsushi> 😄 20:37 <@deathsushi> !lastgame zor 20:37 @deathsushi: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zor/xnethack/dumplog/1616182657.xnh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zor/fiqhack/dumplog/2021-02-14%2001%3A06%3A48%2C%20sadd-Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 20:38 FUCK me 20:38 Went wiztesting and ended up picking a water level that a gremlin managed to stumble into while running from me 20:40 just don't turn your wizard mode game into a custom quest that you have to beg the devteam to dewizardmode 20:41 s/don't // 20:41 qt: were you around when we found out he released that 20:41 no! 20:41 has anyone played it? 20:42 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Xra Mal Law), 21333 points, T:7272, burned by a pool of lava by a flying piranha 20:42 {Demo}3 emailed him and acquired the save and uploaded it somewhere. not sure how accessible it is, it's a windows 3.4.3 save 20:42 also go check rgrn, it's funny 20:43 ...wow. 20:44 3.4.3 really doesn't tell you what ends up rusty if you fall into water 20:44 you have to check the inventory 20:44 That's fucking dumb. 20:44 PAT RANKIN!!!!! I DEMAND PARLAY!!!! 20:44 Umbire: nao or non-nao? 20:44 non-nao 20:44 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Nbn Law) became literate by engraving "nx", on T:3023 20:45 Wiztesting for the express purpose of seeing why stuff silently rusted in SLEX 20:45 I don't remember if nao did anything about telling you what rusted, but yeah, vanilla non-nao 3.4.3 is crap 20:45 <@deathsushi> If I find a frost horn in a bones file, does it revert to a regular horn? 20:45 to boot it was stuff being thrown/fired in crystal water, which you could just walk under 20:45 lol no 20:45 it could be out of charges though 20:45 Only artifacts and once-per-game items (i.e. invocation and Amulet) revert 20:45 <@deathsushi> Mmm okay 20:45 in which case it'd act like a regular horn 20:45 <@deathsushi> Well, I looked up the dump and it looks like a 0:4 20:46 You can also just play it like a regular horn 20:46 <@deathsushi> I guess I need to improvise 20:46 <@deathsushi> Yah, okay 20:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HarmathZsolt (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:1030 20:46 If you select [n] while improvising 20:46 yeah you do need to improvise 20:46 Yeah 20:46 YASI: horn of striking. Two ways to get into the castle in one! 20:47 Dahonken 20:48 "The riddle system teaches players to answer a riddle with a word, convert the words to numbers and cardinal directions, and then dig at that spot for rewards" 20:48 gematria based puzzle system 20:49 Interesting 20:49 CNT-FAI: Lemme trope up this thing like I said I would for Amy and then we'll resume the adventures of my xNet Samurai 20:50 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Nbn Law), 14640 points, T:3847, exterminated by an air elemental, while praying 20:50 deathsushi: i died big time 20:51 umb: i want to get in a few more turns myself 20:51 first i want to figure out how to copy deathsushi's display options 20:51 Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 20:51 I think you copy his rcfile 20:51 it is done 20:51 i just hadnt done that before 20:52 ah 20:52 yeah there's also a web editor for rcfiles on hardfought 20:52 This Is Not The Same 20:52 so you can peek at/DL his then just copypaste to yours 20:52 ah right 20:52 <@deathsushi> CNT-FAI — yah just grab it 20:52 <@deathsushi> I stole mine from someone else 20:52 <@deathsushi> Stenno maybe? 20:52 i did it in the thing and it did not work at all 20:53 you can also copy directly from a player I think 20:53 <@deathsushi> I started spectating and thought "Why does my game look like a bag of ass?" 20:53 how did you do it 20:53 <@deathsushi> Let me find the link for you 20:53 "copy from somewhere else" and then "p) choose another player" 20:53 yeah same and i did that 20:53 <@deathsushi> qt's on it 20:53 <@deathsushi> Did you copy them for xnet? 20:53 i very much did this which i had literally just said 20:53 yes 20:53 oh, hmm 20:54 <@deathsushi> Did you save and restart? 20:54 What's not working? 20:54 AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 20:54 <@deathsushi> Yah, surprised... that worked for me 20:54 Oh, yeah lmfao 20:54 copying the options from deathsushi 20:54 <@deathsushi> Hahaha 20:54 I meant what specifically about it wasn't working 20:54 Like no changes shown, or is shit showing up all weirdt? 20:54 the thing itself 20:55 Ah 20:55 oh 20:55 no changes 20:55 no 20:55 changes, but in the wrong direction 20:55 <@deathsushi> Let me look at your options here... 20:55 it now loosk like default, which it did not before 20:55 hmmmmmmm 20:55 CNT-FAI did you use the right capitalization? Deathsushi instead of deathsushi? 20:55 is it capitalized? if so then i did not! 20:55 oh well there it goes 20:55 yay 20:55 figures this stuff is case sensitive 20:56 yay it works now thank you all 20:56 like I had a feeling it was something """simple""" that got overlooked (as things tend to with file editing and the like) 20:56 yw! 20:56 <@deathsushi> Ah nice 20:56 <@deathsushi> I can see it in your log now 20:56 <@deathsushi> Looks like it's all there 20:56 <@deathsushi> You're in the butterzone now baby 20:56 saving the game is usually my first guess 20:57 Capitalization would've probably been like, seventh? 20:57 lmao 20:57 this guy, he loves to make zones of butter 20:58 zones of wut 20:58 [extremely fawlty towers voice] burro 20:58 wow spawned next to a healing spellbook 20:58 <@deathsushi> Much burrrrrrro ali 20:59 <@deathsushi> Uno, dos TRRREEEEESS 20:59 <@deathsushi> You're speaking my language over there 20:59 <@deathsushi> Watch it or I'll speedrun through quoting the entire series 20:59 lmao @ "You don't need a gravestone. Yet." 20:59 That's a vanilla-ism for trying to pick up a headstone 21:00 yeah i meant to loot it 21:00 turns out you need a "Looting Gun" 21:00 hmm, viewing your game and using [r] only half-works 21:00 what is [r] 21:00 the r key 21:00 seems fine over here 21:00 I do that to signify keys sometimes 21:00 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 21:00 Yeah no it's entirely on my end 21:00 no its smart 21:01 maybe do not a steal my game 21:01 ladron 21:01 <@deathsushi> What does r do? 21:01 Murders your dog 21:01 <@deathsushi> Potent 21:01 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823360727817519124/unknown.png 21:01 wow 2 gravestones 21:01 that looks insanely different 21:01 [r] while watching a game resizes your terminal, usually to a size that SHOULD fix it 21:01 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 21:02 what seriously?? 21:02 <@deathsushi> Ah cool, didn't know that 21:02 <@deathsushi> That's handy as heck 21:02 yeah i was wondering 21:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34588 21:02 anyways 21:02 <@deathsushi> Just "r", that's it? 21:02 <@deathsushi> I'm surprised. 21:02 well, that and teh sacrifice to Satan 21:02 <@deathsushi> I figured you'd need an escape code to actually resize your window size 21:02 In this case however it does not 21:02 <@deathsushi> That seems like it would jump out of the sandbox of a terminal window, out into the actual OS 21:02 https://i.postimg.cc/vBPVgK5b/image.png 21:03 CNT-FAI: you need to use codepage 437 21:03 hey, i copied tehse options from deathsushi 21:03 https://github.com/keaston/cp437 21:03 No, putty options 21:03 oh yeah I didn't see it was putty 21:03 Window > right-click > change settings 21:03 right click is paste 21:04 Shit, that's on me,. 21:04 you mean left click on the icon in the corner 21:04 Yeah 21:04 alright help me out here 21:04 Right clicking on the bar it's on also works and is how I did it prev. 21:04 Then you want Window > Translation > set UTF-8 to CP437 instead 21:04 CNT-FAI: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/IBMgraphics#PuTTY 21:04 many thankings 21:04 welcoming 21:05 do i now need to restart my connection 21:05 no, don't think so, once you save the options it should take 21:05 if it doesn't saving and reloading should work I think? 21:05 that's neat, toom e 21:05 this looks the good 21:06 reminds me of crawl 21:06 Oh the purple bits are mimicking scroll bars 21:06 that's sick 21:06 ya 21:06 I just wish I could see your whole status bar 21:06 turns out stealing rules 21:06 yeah me too 21:06 i generally want the terminal to be much wider 21:06 87x28, hmm 21:06 bc of that and also inventory names 21:07 anyone know offhand how to mnake the terminal much wider 21:08 Aside from manually resizing you can set that as an option in tty as well 21:08 no 21:08 the output of the game 21:08 yeah as far as that I'm 100% lost lmao 21:08 if you find out lemme know 21:08 i need for it to be possible to see things 21:08 im lookin 21:08 <@deathsushi> What OS are you on? 21:09 <@deathsushi> You can set defaults on mac os, which is what I use 21:09 you're completely not hearing me 21:09 <@deathsushi> Not even a little bit? 21:09 i need to see things in the game because the game is putting out a wide output 21:09 <@deathsushi> CTRL-r redraws the screen 21:09 as opposed to not seeing my stats or the names of the tings in my inventory no matter how i 21:09 * CNT-FAI fucking screams 21:09 <@deathsushi> But I can't remember how you adjust the game's output 21:10 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3482 21:10 i love you all but it is extremely frustrating to give tons of detail about a problem and get like 6 answers to other problems that do not exist 21:10 i need the output to be wide 21:10 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Mon Chn Fem Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3506 21:11 <@deathsushi> _o_/ 21:12 <@luxidream> what terminal 21:12 Sushi, just look at the image I pasted 21:12 AGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 21:12 <@luxidream> you can set terminal size in putty 21:12 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/823363456307691520/putty_pXVQBgPfzQ.png 21:12 STOP REPEATING THAT IT IS NOT THE ISSUE 21:12 The issue is not the terminal's size itself 21:12 and has already been covered many times anyway 21:12 i need the output to be wide so i can see stats and item names 21:13 ^ 21:13 nethack always matches the size of the terminal you can't independently change the "wideness" of the game other than changing the size of the terminal 21:13 Which does not work, I have tried that 21:13 no 21:13 i respect your willingness to help but maximizing would not keep the output 100% exactly the same in that case 21:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (alhoons), on T:35738 21:13 you need to change the window size and then reconnect 21:14 hardfought uses the size of the window when you first connect 21:14 it doesn't refresh to the new size until you disconnect and reconnect 21:14 oh well fuck, that'll do it 21:14 ah yeah this is important to keep in mind 21:14 okay i see thank you 21:14 6_9 21:14 it is an issue of dgamelauncher i think 21:14 unfortunate, that 21:14 but we have the fix at any rate 21:15 i should do the sleep 21:15 is 2 am 21:15 so what window size would one change it to 21:15 have serious adulting to do this week D: 21:15 since I plan to subsequently steal sushi's options myself 21:15 tfw when you just wanna play NetHack but life demands Important Grownup Stuff™ 21:16 i honestly dont know i just guessed like 120x48 or something 21:16 okay that is much better 21:16 glad you got it sorted 21:16 when i saw the screenshot i was like 21:16 ty for the help everyeone and sorry for the screaming 21:16 oh dear god that looks awful lol 21:17 yeah 21:17 lol i think ur fine CNT-FAI 21:17 it's alright, repetition can be aggravating 21:17 ty 21:17 oh HELL yeah 21:17 now we're podracing 21:17 lmao 21:17 are yous eeing this 21:17 LMFAO 21:17 nice water demon 21:17 ty 21:18 i have my term even bigger :3 21:18 i summoned him myself by being insane and doing bad choices 21:18 but yea that looks much better lol 21:18 there is maybe a .03% possibility of not dying by turn like 115 at this point 21:19 lmfao a wand of striking 21:19 i also personally prefer 2-line status to 3-line but some people have it over 3 lines and that's cool too 21:19 that's insulting 21:19 they could just as easily swat you with the wand directly and kill you harder 21:19 oh yeah what is the orientation setting again 21:19 im p sure the point of the game is summoning demons we're fine 21:19 all par for the course 21:19 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 1631 points, T:2550, killed by a dart 21:20 oh rip 21:20 if i were a water demon i would murder dungeon crawlers with a gentle poke of the wand 21:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:17302 21:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] CntFai (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:102, killed by a wand 21:21 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:21 aoei: your mail is ambiguous and confusing 21:21 are you talking about evil or xnh 21:22 sorry i meant to direct that at your opinion on the game you are currently playing 21:22 i find your variant enjoyable to play, personally 21:22 silver dragon scaled ambiguous and confusing mail 21:23 altho i guess i should assume it is moderately enjoyable 21:23 or you wouldn't be 39k turns into a game 21:23 note that I'm playing a very old 0.5.0 save where I basically cleared out everything thru valley (except ice queen branch, not going there) and then parked it for a very long time. 21:23 ah i see 21:23 is 0.6.0 currently up on hdf servers? 21:23 ye 21:23 and 0.7.0 is not too far off 21:23 as the scoreboard maintainer i really ought to keep better track of variant happenings <.< 21:24 ooh force bolt 21:24 I have in general played by evilhack's rules and this game as far as I remember has not yet made me go "AAAARRRGGH THAT'S SO UNFAIR" and tear my hair out, but I think that's just luck 21:24 decent attack spell 21:24 for the beginning 21:25 note to self, work out a way to allow variant devs some direct control over certain aspects of scoreboard 21:25 and hope they do some of the work for me 21:25 once you get some levels you'll have the Pw to make use of it 21:25 I don't really feel like evilhack is unfair and I suck at nethack 21:25 or just wield the book 21:25 it's hard but I wouldn't call it unfair 21:25 oh yeah, wielding the book 21:25 anyone know if asmo is more dangerous than in vanilla 21:25 an actual Thing You Can Do 21:25 aosdict: lol 21:25 erm i have no idea tbh 21:25 me either 21:25 i've never got very far in evilhack 21:25 or will he still demand a fraction of my gold as a bribe 21:26 I think he will 21:26 i just know i am a lot more scared of zombies in evilhack 21:26 he's categorically more dangerous because you need 100% cold res 21:26 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Quit: Really 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(Y/N)] 21:26 I think he demands a certain level of gold, not just a fraction of your current gold 21:26 I think when I encountered him before he asked for more gold than I had on me 21:26 you can get the piss owned out of you with 50% 21:26 but I'm not 100% sure 21:26 evilhack is brutal... I've never managed to get past Sokoban 21:26 ah yea that could be an issue 21:26 nabru: i think sokozoo death was my best attempt 21:26 so yeah, same basically 21:26 I'm at quest o: 21:27 I need two more experience levels though 21:27 :o 21:27 Umbire: Pog 21:27 also a tinning kit 21:27 why tinning kit 21:27 trolls? 21:27 I'm tired of giants popping up while I'm full is why 21:27 ah ok 21:27 not many trolls thankfully 21:27 valk? 21:27 yes 21:27 i just like, don't eat them if im full 21:27 lol 21:27 there's not that much missed value 21:27 but I Must Consume Giant Flesh 21:27 imo 21:28 i mean if that's ur bag 21:28 fair play 21:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:17426 21:28 https://twitter.com/dril/status/927753857861652481?s=20 21:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:28 * aosdict whacks a vampire with a silver bugle for funsies 21:29 CNT-FAI: hahahaha that made me laugh so much 21:29 aosdict: lol nice 21:29 always a tweet 21:29 great tweet 21:29 oh yeah, Croesus spawning with gold objects is fucking goated 21:29 huh why 21:29 can you steal them in leprechaun polyform or smth 21:29 in fact back up even further a sec 21:29 waht does goated actually mean 21:29 my secret is to memorize a handful of key words that are frequently in funny tweets and then search them from:dril or whoever 21:30 CNT-FAI: :o 21:30 https://twitter.com/dril/status/927753857861652481?s=20 21:30 CNT-FAI: that's advanced twitter gameplay 21:30 i had no idea 21:30 i respect the work 21:30 yeah i had to know all the good dril tweets back when i was anarcha_dril 21:30 ty 21:30 also kerio posted me this yesterday and it still maeks me laugh https://i.redd.it/y948lsaqq9o61.jpg 21:30 that's dedication 21:30 respec 21:31 https://twitter.com/dril/status/912753223118749696 21:31 aoei: (GOAT => greatest of all time) => goated 21:31 also it's just really great immersion 21:31 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36530 21:31 wait what? 21:31 (though admittedly that stealing idea is also v. tempting) 21:32 I forget which variants actually implement that 21:32 i have no idea who dril is but the first tweet was funny as f 21:32 but that any variant does is awesome 21:32 greatest of all timed 21:32 "Asmodeus demands 5442 zorkmids for safe passage. How much will you offer? 5443 You give Asmodeus all your gold. Asmodeus gets angry..." 21:32 idk it doesnt semantically seem to make sense 21:32 aosdict: wtf 21:32 f 21:32 https://twitter.com/dril/status/911376667133739009 21:33 dril is a south jersey guy who has a adult swim show and a book of tweets 21:33 CNT-FAI: lmao 21:33 i happen to know that he is bad at sex, through a friend 21:33 he seems fun tho 21:33 we can't all be amazing in the sack 21:33 aosdict: Oh what a ripoff D: 21:33 yeah i mentioned that i was thinking of buying the book and my comrade was like do not buy the book 21:33 <@deathsushi> He seems kind of ... broad? 21:33 sort of 21:33 <@deathsushi> But I don't know anything about him other than the two tweets you posted 21:33 i think of him as a Carl type figure 21:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:33 for the Social Media's Age 21:34 CNT-FAI: oh lol. u mean like Carl from ATHF? 21:34 yea 21:34 i hate that guy honestly 21:34 LOL 21:34 i love athf tho 21:34 thats what i love about him, how much i hate him 21:34 YASI: @carl_dril gimmick account 21:34 mooninites ftw 21:34 thats a good idea umb 21:34 <@deathsushi> So instead I'll just cook up this ground beef and make a cocktail 21:34 CNT-FAI: hahaa i guess this is kinda the point of carl 21:34 yeah p much 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Gia Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1242 21:34 CNT-FAI: oh how cute with your three dimensions 21:34 what fresh hell is this since when is juiblex a spellcaster 21:34 https://twitter.com/dril/status/1112126766389223424 21:34 we have five... 21:34 thousand 21:34 yeah five thousand 21:34 dont question it 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:40034 21:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0udqZsvrux0 21:35 demon lord yo 21:35 lemme guess, acid blasted? 21:35 aosdict: ur playing evilhack lmao 21:35 "fresh hell" is kinda the point 21:35 https://twitter.com/dril/status/906632021509885953 21:36 instead of fresh hell try saying "What sorcery is this?" 21:36 [hdf-us] [evil] aosdict (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:40101 21:36 but in a normal guy voice 21:36 hi 21:36 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 21:36 hey 21:36 Hello nabru, Welcome to #hardfought 21:36 orgasming and going "What black magicks hath thou wrought upon me!?" 21:36 https://twitter.com/dril/status/906632021509885953 21:36 and then politely requesting that they do it again 21:37 https://twitter.com/dril/status/578619277651132418 21:37 asmodeus' final act of revenge was reading a scroll of create monster on juiblex's swamp and summoning a gremlin 21:37 CNT-FAI: lmao now im reading his tweet's in Carl's voice 21:37 CNT-FAI: thank yous o much for this 21:37 you're very welcome 21:38 CNT-FAI: yer good people 21:38 ok that's enough for now 21:38 https://twitter.com/dril/status/580618533735940097 21:38 right back atcha 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:11154 21:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 2134 points, T:1638, killed by a rothe 21:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 376184 points, T:36881, killed by a mastodon 21:38 https://twitter.com/dril/status/939298339161542656 21:38 reading this guys' tweet feels like I'm participating in some AI experiment 21:39 !lastgame Arahael 21:39 Ow. 21:39 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1616283830.evil.html 21:39 Christ. 21:39 So sad. 21:39 Elephants in evilhack are DorfFort levels of nasty 21:39 <@deathsushi> FIQ; Eh 21:39 Remurdered In Protocol 21:39 Especially when a frigging owlbear holds you, and you suddenly realise that your wand of teleport is empty. 21:40 https://twitter.com/dril/status/635148967244922881 21:40 "Ayo I got dis fool, take a whack at 'em!" 21:41 it's even more Fun when the mastodon grabs you itself 21:41 Umbire: That was a weirdly tough game. I'm not sure why, but somehow, every monster was just... tougher. 21:41 Usually I can just melee that abominable snowman, as an example. Not easily, but usually. But this time... It was tough even with sufficient wands of fire. 21:41 I shall now make plans to add dorf fort monsters to my eventual variant 21:41 Umbire: Have them mounted on mastadons! 21:41 @deathsushi ? 21:41 of course I'll have mastodon riders 21:42 but my first priority 21:42 shall be sponges. 21:42 Umbire: Kaen himself, again, was trivial, though. 21:43 CNT-FAI: girl this clip https://youtu.be/0udqZsvrux0?t=325 21:43 this is like peak mooninites lmao 21:45 I never learned how to steal or fight or drink the right way. 21:45 XD 21:45 https://twitter.com/dril/status/575121631846227968 21:45 "and he was the alcoholic." "moonaholic" 21:45 "whatever dependent on moonahol" 21:46 -!- qt has quit [Quit: goodnight] 21:46 CNT-FAI: lmao 21:46 CNT-FAI: Oh my god the foresight 21:46 when will he miss honestly 21:46 (this is sarcasm dril has missed a few times I'm sure) 21:47 not even once 21:48 except according to the twisted values of the trolls 21:48 lmao 21:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_QrKzAf4I 21:50 "take it up with mr laser" roflmao 21:50 blessed aklys 21:50 pogchamp 21:50 oh thats what that is 21:50 should i wield it right away or 21:51 priests get expert in clubs 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 462 points, T:860, killed by an uninjured dwarf 21:51 and it'll solved your ranged problems for pretty much 21:51 ever 21:51 unless you're dealing with rust monsters but hey ho 21:51 holy christ 7 pears 21:51 wooooooooooooo 21:51 this start is goooooood 21:51 you shouldve seen the run when i got 7 eucalyptus leafs 21:51 wait are you an elf this time 21:51 i of course got confused and promptly died 21:51 human 21:52 o 21:52 elf is terrifying to play in xnh 21:52 ic, neutral 21:52 yeah 21:52 the mines is like 21:52 and yeah, 21:52 crazy bad 21:52 even in that uberscuffed game we had Rif handled mines p. well 21:52 nice 21:52 no thanks to me and arahael :B 21:52 it was the insane blessedness of my unholy mace 21:53 yeah they were haters and doubted me 21:53 doing things like "forgetting there was a pick-axe in the main branch" 21:53 i had to correct them by murdering and eating intelligent creatures 21:53 and "not reading that one scroll that turned out to be scare monster" 21:53 fittingly the gods deemed it appropriate that my samurai be the one to take up her mantle that she may atone for our sins against her 21:54 (i.e. I promptly found her bones lol) 21:54 yeah i was like "What if the scroll is good" and these trolls simply said "No: 21:54 due to their general hatred of prosperance 21:56 yoooooooooooooooo 21:56 create monster 21:56 i am getting soem baller spells here 21:56 lol @ lichen carrying a wrapped undisturbed fortune cookie 21:57 random drops be funny like that 21:57 create monster is one of the better clerical spells a priest can get super-early 21:57 get some permafood, find an altar or co-aligned temple 21:57 you're in business 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 74 points, T:113, killed by an uninjured large mimic 21:58 this thing is not doing tons of damage early on 21:58 but i guess i should train in it 21:58 yeah, definitely worth 21:58 you can [t]hrow it while tethered 21:58 tethered? 21:58 ooh a shop 21:59 CNT-FAI: notice that it's tethered to your hand when you wield it 21:59 ohhhhh nice 21:59 i did not know that 21:59 So you can throw it Mjolnir-style 21:59 akyls = poor-man's Mjollnir 21:59 *aklys 21:59 which I say because that was the only other "boomerang"-style weapon that existed before 3.6.1 21:59 and then only for power-gloved Valks 22:00 actual boomerangs have a more realistic arc that make them kinda suck to use 22:00 general store 22:00 wait 22:00 pick up the tripe then set it down 22:00 pet apport increases more if they eat treats that were at least handled by you 22:00 ahhhh 22:00 though I forget if they'll eat the tripe without you throwing it at them 22:01 so many other pet changes 22:01 thorough price IDing huh 22:02 i dont want to not know 22:03 Umbire: What I think is weird about the Alkys is that if you're levitation, it doesn't return, it just goes to the floor you're levitating over. 22:03 Umbire: Despite it being attached. 22:04 has that happened consistently? 22:04 Hmm, honestly I only tried the once, when I was attacking medusa. 22:04 hm 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 636 points, T:438, killed by a dagger 22:04 I was levitating, so I was like, "feck it. Aklys is pointless here". 22:05 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1255, rt[0:02:12] 22:05 CNT-FAI: It's a super-useful weapon to have, regardless. Just perhaps not when levitating. Or perhaps I was unlucky. 22:05 Yeah, you got the 1% then 22:05 Woah. Unlucky. I thought the 1% was that it doesn't return at all? 22:05 aklys and powerglovevalk Mjolnir return to you 99% of the time when thrown 22:06 the other 1% it hits your arm, fails to return or just lands at your feet 22:06 Well, it hit medusa, and ret... That explains it. 22:06 hmmm 22:06 Cursed cape 22:06 might be invis 22:06 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1784, rt[0:03:36] 22:06 invis is underrated. 22:07 where's Dickweed 22:07 good q 22:08 yay STR/WIS exercise 22:08 not seeing the little bastard anwyhere 22:09 did you check near the rocks 22:09 yeah 22:09 ah 22:09 hmmm 22:09 where'd you last see 'em 22:09 like a room or two away from the store i THINK 22:09 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3333, rt[0:06:47] 22:10 perplexing 22:10 might be a trap door again 22:10 oh yeah 22:10 v. likely to be 22:10 just a matter of finding it 22:10 oh, that's a trap for sure 22:10 yeah 22:10 you can eat the orc corpse if you get there quick enough 22:10 thre should be a way to drag a corspe around 22:11 yeah but thats a trap that killed an orc 22:11 "bones" like those have slightly pre-aged corspes along with cursed items 22:11 so untrap it first! 22:11 huh 22:11 you have to formally find the trap granted 22:11 agh 22:11 via [s] 22:11 bonk 22:11 swap to mace 22:11 shit i wasnt watching hp 22:12 actually nvm pray to heal 22:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4629, rt[0:09:13] 22:12 yey 22:12 wow that gnome had a wand 22:13 might not've been directional 22:13 how do you check those again 22:13 let's finish our orc first 22:13 oh yeah, falling rock traps can't be untrapped 22:13 it won't kill you at least and you can mitigate damage with a helm 22:13 YASI: Drums can untrap falling rock traps with an avalanche. 22:13 hard helm* 22:14 oh yeah did you lift the cursed items from the trap 22:14 theres the lil bastard 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Gia Fem Law), 1994 points, T:3513, killed by trying to drink molten lava 22:14 ah 22:14 can just give him your tripe to retame 22:14 'em* 22:14 already tame 22:15 oh 22:15 it underlines instead of highlights now 22:15 right, yeah 22:15 used to hilites 6_9 22:15 same 22:15 alright so 22:15 you wanna test the wand yeah? 22:15 and i assume steal something 22:15 yeah 22:15 Elbereth in the dust with your fingertip 22:15 then engrave with the wand 22:16 non-offensive 22:16 non-vanishing 22:16 hmmmm 22:16 so its like a buff 22:16 nah, gnome would've zapped it 22:16 could be like 22:17 locking, secret door detection, probing, opening 22:17 okay i honestly forgot how to steal from stores in the early game like, intentionally 22:17 maybe nothing 22:17 oh, so the idea is to raise Dickweed's apport using tripe 22:17 also im going to restart with less height i can only see 1 line of irc 22:17 (including the ones in the shop, hence why you handle them first) 22:18 then with their apport raised, the pet's more likely to bring items straight to you 22:18 ah right! 22:18 so you arrange your desired noncursed items for easy pickup and let the pet do the rest 22:18 it's how I got my magic lamp 22:18 (though I didn't have much tripe so it took a while) 22:18 oof some lag 22:19 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6678, rt[0:16:02] 22:19 i forgot is there a utility to acid blob corpses 22:19 feels like u should be able to throw them at enemies or somethin 22:19 they rot away like normal but are always "safe" to eat 22:20 (besides being acidic obviously) 22:20 but they're also always valid for sacrifice until they completely rot away 22:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 12804 points, T:7033, [0:17:39], quit 22:20 do i need to buy some more tripe in here 22:21 nah 22:21 You just need to have handled it 22:21 (i.e. picked up and put down) 22:21 they eating the tripe on their own? 22:21 not as of yet i think 22:21 hmmm 22:22 I always eat lichen corpses first if I have any 22:22 same weight as a ration but 1/3 of the nutrition 22:22 i figured the pears were going to go bad 22:22 nah pears are permafood 22:22 werid 22:22 anything that's not a corpse is permafood 22:23 should i bother grabbing more items 22:23 did you grab all the items you wanted? 22:23 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1340, rt[0:02:24] 22:23 ya 22:23 set the ones you want the pet to steal near the store entrance 22:24 that gem is now yours 22:24 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1288 points, T:1741, [0:03:44], killed by an uninjured Uruk-hai 22:24 repeat until you have all your desired items 22:25 maybe eat that jackal while it's good 22:25 do i need to throw more tripe at this dude 22:26 not just yet, you can buy some if you feel the need to 22:26 it's a bit finicky, you need to make sure an item's picked up, sometimes shopkeep unintentionally gets in the way 22:27 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1420, rt[0:02:05] 22:27 You can't displace him lol 22:27 stealing would be a bit too easy otherwise 22:27 fair 22:28 sometimes you gotta move so that the shopkeep moves 22:28 hmmm 22:28 you think that's either of the enchant weapon/armor scrolls or remove curse? 22:29 thre it is 22:30 STR/CON bonuses 22:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Fem Law), 176190 points, T:20391, killed by uninjured Ashikaga Takauji, while sleeping off a magical draught 22:30 she's gonna be the buffest priestess of ever 22:30 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2808, rt[0:05:27] 22:31 as a side note, it IS technically possible to just walk out of the store without paying if you're fast enough 22:31 one time I almost did it by accident 22:32 that seems like the method wer'e intentionally avoiding considering i can barely kill anything w/o wielding a spellbook 22:32 (as in your char's physically fast enough, usually takes speed boots) 22:32 yeah i get it 22:32 and yeah we are 22:32 shopkeeps can mulch a lot of early game chars 22:32 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4256, rt[0:07:41] 22:33 spider was holding pancakes 22:33 just came outta ihop 22:34 lol 22:34 Thius cat rules 22:35 woo 22:35 I have an urge to roleplay a killer healer priest 22:35 and wish for the Staff of Aesculapius 22:35 <@deathsushi> Umbire: You can do this 22:35 I know I can 22:35 But I feel I must 22:37 I tend to avoid pet=stealing stacks of items because of the sheer tedium involved 22:37 i rememeber now lol 22:37 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5877, rt[0:12:34] 22:37 oh yeah what god do you serve in-game? 22:38 idk tell me the command to find this out 22:38 It's CTRL+X 22:38 u caught that 22:39 u caught it yes? 22:39 nah lol 22:39 also you're forgetting to eat 22:39 oh there lol 22:39 hermes 22:40 ah, healer pantheon 22:40 (ironically) 22:40 oh thats everythign 22:40 Now you can resell the stuff you don't want and just 22:40 make off with the rest! 22:40 oh right 22:41 that'll get you some decent gold hopefully 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8797 points, T:7292, killed by a mountain centaur 22:42 <@deathsushi> My pets know that they're coming in to this world as thieves 22:42 <@deathsushi> TEEVING BASTAHDS 22:42 lol 22:42 anti mcgruff 22:42 wait you had that beartrap with you the whole time? 22:42 wew 22:42 why 22:42 before i sell it 22:42 and yes 22:42 <@deathsushi> Totes anti-mcgruff 22:43 <@deathsushi> A dog in a trench coat? What are you, Daft Punk?! 22:43 why beartrap question 22:43 I just now noticed is all 22:43 sell away 22:43 yeah that was the bulk of the weight problem, so to speak 22:43 actually i should buy the tripe now 22:44 Yeah 22:44 and double check for anything you would've wanted but was cursed 22:44 too late 22:44 if it's cursed armor the enchantment might be negative tho 22:44 just spent the entire thing on food for me and the cat 22:44 oh lol nbd 22:44 maybe slightly counterproductive but w/e its done 22:44 next shop will be the perfect praxis theft 22:45 nah, p. productive overall 22:45 yeah im not mad 22:45 just have to #adjust the food rations 22:45 lets you fix item stacks without spending a turn dropping/picking up 22:45 hm idr how to do what you are suggesting 22:45 #adjust (stack letter) (same stack letter) 22:45 i just put one of the stack letters and the other one and it just switched them 22:45 ohhhhh 22:45 that "collects" them 22:46 neat ty 22:46 and merges them if they're stackable 22:46 handy means of informal BUC checking, esp. for like 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 100 points, T:427, killed by a water moccasin 22:46 so we know we got 2 of the enchant/other thing 22:46 atheists and shit 22:46 yeah no need on this run but noted ty 22:46 2 of one, 1 of another 22:46 seems fitting 22:47 both highlighted as red because you put "curse" in the name 22:47 lol oh yeah 22:47 but they're uncursed 22:47 you just need an item to test it with since that price range is safe 22:47 hm 22:47 well i could just enchant my current shit im holding 22:48 oh except itd waste the remove curse 22:48 Well 22:48 oh i can just wield the cursed ring 22:48 sortakinda 22:48 but not a complete waste 22:48 yeah 22:48 Type name them slightly different things 22:48 like name the S scroll enchant/uncurse or w/e 22:49 that way when we name them later we don't confuse it with the other ones 22:49 so we've got an enchant armor 22:49 enchanted robe is nice 22:49 crap 22:49 that was enchant weapon methinks 22:49 i mathed wrong this does not in any way leave me with an uncursed ring 22:50 so you can go to discoveries and type name that 22:50 whats that command again 22:50 Just #name or [C] 22:50 then select an object on the discoveries list 22:50 i cant tell you which was which now 22:50 in retrospect 22:50 dyk? 22:50 GHOTI was the one you read that failed just now 22:50 The other was formally IDed from it enchanting your robe 22:50 so that was 22:51 oh right enchant wpn 22:51 enchant weapon 22:51 ye 22:51 and then you can use a tab of holy water to uncurse the ring if you really want 22:51 could be something potentially useful 22:51 could be a booby prize 22:51 tab? 22:52 tab, bottle, what have you 22:52 interesting slang 22:52 confusing but i like it 22:52 I like my variance 22:52 well we know what that is now 22:52 TAKE IT OFF 22:52 It's conflict 22:52 im takin, it offf 22:52 rings of conflict cause monsters nearby to attack other monsters 22:53 it's a great item 22:53 oh neat 22:53 but one you gotta wear carefully 22:53 I just panicked because of the reflex I developed during my playthroughs 22:53 in case I found one early 22:53 yeah no it was good to panic there 22:53 that was also an RP moent 22:53 yeee 22:53 okay is there a way to figure out what this other ring is 22:54 i guess maybe i just dont bother with that yet 22:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 cursed genocide", on T:11231, rt[0:29:29] 22:54 you can wear it and waltz around for a bit but beyond that no ideas 22:55 lol 22:55 threw the book at 'em 22:55 nice 22:55 for some reason 22:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:11595, rt[0:31:02] 22:56 i hit f and the computer was like I know what she wants 22:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:11596, rt[0:31:07] 22:56 can you #enhance yet 22:57 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:11678, rt[0:32:00] 22:57 o 22:57 soon im sure 22:57 oh ice room 22:57 Soon™ 22:57 Soon: When Stuff Happens 22:57 Oh yeah, one of the new special rooms 22:57 that owns 22:57 that was a thing in the bundled game in MZX 22:58 bundled? 👀 22:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 96142 points, T:11794, [0:33:16], drowned in a moat by a giant eel 22:58 you know, the game that came with the game creation system, that you play instead of creating 22:58 oh lmfao 22:58 never heard of it t-- 22:58 Luxi D: 22:58 the person who made both turned out to be trans which was very educational for me 22:58 <@luxidream> oop 22:58 oooh 22:58 MegaZeux essentially became a community of minecrafters 22:58 <@luxidream> I got ready to zap death at the eel 22:58 some 10ish years ago 22:58 <@luxidream> and then realized I had neither MR nor reflection 22:59 Oh YEAH you mentioned it earlier today 22:59 <@luxidream> died 22:59 it still exists and theyve done advanced things with it 22:59 I need to look into i 22:59 it* 22:59 but the modern script language in that thing is honestly too complex to be worth learning other than as a hobby 22:59 back in the 90s it was more like 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2 points, T:52, killed by a wounded jackal 22:59 that thing tim berners lee was always talking about where the web is some kind of beautiful anarchy or whatever 22:59 except the games 95% sucked 22:59 :c 23:00 and close to 5% didn't get made/completed, at least the part of that 5% that i was involved in 23:00 there it is 23:01 a floating eye with a boomerang 23:02 lol 23:02 <@deathsushi> In the game I'm playing, I mixed 2 oz of rhubarb with gin, 1 oz of rhubarb liquere and 1/2 oz of galliano, and I'm ascending 23:02 just like a nonna used to make 23:02 oh holy shit wait 23:02 Rif did you know 23:03 that you can do mixology in x? no 23:03 xNet lets you ferment your own potions? 23:03 awesome 23:03 ...yeah that 23:03 just need fungus corpses and some juice 23:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Pir Inc Mal Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:21145 23:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:14688 23:03 another shop eh 23:03 time for take 2 23:05 <@deathsushi> Umbire: Um, wait, what? 23:05 oh Rif found another general store 23:05 haha yeah 23:05 so more stealing ensues 23:05 2 generals on adjacent levels 23:05 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2888 points, T:4212, [0:06:27], quit 23:05 but also you can use fungus corpses and juice to make potions 23:05 that owns 23:06 the mantelet is an orcish cloak 23:06 essentially vendor trash unless you're an orc yourself methinks 23:06 yeah i was looking at the potion 23:06 ah 23:06 my b 23:06 gain level/ability possibly 23:07 did you quaff? 23:07 or no 23:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 783207 points, T:61282, incinerated in molten lava by a salamander 23:07 just price ID'd, right, brain catching up 23:08 what else is in that-- holy shit 23:08 yep 23:08 that's always brutal to watch 23:08 but yeah what else was in that price range 23:08 paralysis I think? 23:08 -!- thrbehrbr has joined #hardfought 23:09 plain sack 23:09 yeah 23:09 but even that's good 23:09 the bag is convenient 23:09 makes pet stealing far eaiser 23:10 bag the items, set it down and hope your pet picks it up 23:10 used to be able to do that with gold for credit cloning 23:10 still can, I think 23:10 hello all, can anyone help me or know how to remove browser hijack and unsolicited sms of register service that costs my mobile fund? Umbire and CNT-FAI is same one guy and he is the one doing this to me but hs doesn't stop doing this crime 23:10 Jesse what the fuck are you talking about 23:10 hello all, can anyone help me or know how to remove browser hijack and unsolicited sms of register service that costs my mobile fund? Umbire and CNT-FAI is same one guy and he is the one doing this to me but hs doesn't stop doing this crime 23:11 K2, Tangles: Oi, we got a wise-guy here 23:11 buddy, the only crime i do is stealing valor 23:11 also being gay one presumes 23:11 a bit of that 23:11 ...that sounded way more coherent and less unfortunate in my head 23:11 nah it worked 23:11 He said he did this because I talk eith others while he nvr uses any accoutns with real name and he even did this just because i liked and commented a video youtube of a guy is good 23:11 -!- thrbehrbr was kicked from #hardfought by K2 [thrbehrbr] 23:11 -!- thrbehrbr has joined #hardfought 23:11 ty k2 23:11 Auto rejoin, eh 23:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+b *!*@103.82.15.22] by K2 23:12 -!- thrbehrbr was kicked from #hardfought by K2 [thrbehrbr] 23:12 oh whoops forgot i didnt have money lol 23:12 You were meant to set the tripe down anyway 23:12 not throw it directly 23:12 i just wanted to quickly do the apport 23:12 but das okay 23:12 [I] then [u] 23:12 okay i have the money i just have to bag and drop this stuff 23:12 shows you unpaid stuff 23:12 oh there's an "already used up" section 23:13 Rational! 23:13 lol @ "That would be an interesting topological exercise." 23:14 Oop 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4025 23:14 oh, to pacify ponies you need people food 23:14 vegetarian stuff tames them 23:15 yeah i figured it out and threw a pear 23:15 <@deathsushi> #PearHucker 23:15 awesome 23:15 lol 23:16 ponies are way stronger for carrying compared to same-stage dogs and cats 23:16 yeah 23:16 they usually have to get to their large form 23:16 not as smart but good at hauling 23:16 the presence of trees and better fruit/vegetable drops makes feeding them WAY easier too 23:16 they get a lot more out of veggy stuff 23:16 I need to try a xNet Knight sometime 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4092 23:17 okay i still need to sell more things here or set up a stash 23:17 oh the gem is something 23:18 still way over weight 23:18 could toss your cat the rations 23:18 tripe rations* 23:18 i'll do ti if the bag doesn't get the job done 23:18 might be nice to have a 3+ animal army later 23:18 as for gems you need them ID'd to get what they're worth 23:18 crawl style 23:19 sure but i can just steal them later 23:19 yeah but without a magic whistle managing them is ass 23:19 oh i forgot i have an identify 23:19 ye was gonna say 23:19 could just read that now and figure out a buncha shit 23:19 Don't forget to bless the identify. 23:19 ty ara 23:19 actually yeah hella good call 23:20 oh nice i have slow monster 23:20 it's a decent spell 23:20 works against whirly engulfers 23:21 good stuff 23:21 should i use the enchant armor now 23:21 oh, scroll of water is new to xNet 23:21 i guess i should probably bless it first either way 23:21 uhhhhhh if you want to, I'd use it on the shield 23:21 lightweight AC ahoy 23:22 feel like my robe might as well be blessed too right 23:22 am i overthinking it 23:22 nah you're not 23:22 just figure at least one of the scrolls is worth using on the shield 23:22 oooh 23:22 damn 23:23 you can stash part of a stack of items jsyk 23:23 using the number before you press their letter 23:24 im aware of the mechanism, just trying to get a minimalist inventory at this point, nothing really cant be left in the bag 23:24 for the most part 23:24 ah fair! 23:24 only thing I'd consider keeping on hand is the garlic/wolfsbane anyway 23:24 oh ok 23:25 if you get werefoo'd you won't have hands so 23:25 right good cal i didnt think of that 23:25 alright what's this bad boy 23:26 it fights my attempt to write 23:26 oh it auto ident 23:26 nm 23:27 that's good though 23:27 ya 23:27 only wand to have that message, skips a step 23:28 oh shit 23:28 nbd 23:28 do i have an item taht fixes that 23:29 we know enchant weapon, so if you find another scroll 23:29 read it while confused 23:29 that'll corrodeproof it and fix the damage 23:29 k 23:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:29 another ID scroll les gooooo 23:30 oh! 23:30 you can dip corroded/rusty metal weapons into oil 23:30 ahhhh right 23:30 repairs one level of damage 23:30 ooh extra healing 23:30 gain energy means higher max power? 23:31 yeah 23:31 CNT-FAI: I'd save gain energy for potion alchemy. 23:31 can also use it to alchemize full healing and such 23:31 noted thanks! 23:31 oh POG 23:31 slow digestion 23:31 CNT-FAI: Be aware tht when you od alchemize, the potions can explode, so I'd do it in batches, don't alchemize the entire thing only to have it explode. 23:31 yeah awesome 23:31 Slow Digestion is awesome for spellcasters, unless you've got hungerless casting. 23:32 yeah 23:32 im stoked 23:32 it's awesome in general 23:32 also true 23:32 <{Demo}3> sd is awesome for altar scummers 23:32 Yeah, well, it still takes up a ring slot. Other rings are more useful. 23:32 nuh uh 23:32 we dont really have them yet 23:32 >:c 23:32 the argument is moot until conflict is needed or we have another ring 23:32 Indeed. 23:32 blessed mon det is also solid as hell, better than telepathy in a lot of cases 23:33 you get to see all monsters near you for a while 23:33 happy to have levitation for later too 23:33 <{Demo}3> sd is an A tier ring 23:33 <{Demo}3> if not S tier 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1456 points, T:1252, killed by a djinni called Jeannie, while being terrified of a ghost 23:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:34 ah, [s] removes I markers for where monsters not visible to you were 23:34 ah 23:34 or you can use [m] to move through them 23:34 thats the one i was forgetting 23:34 unless ofc there's an actual monster still in that spot 23:34 i feel like theres a room there 23:35 oh right i have magic mapping 23:35 do i especially want to save that for later 23:36 oh i should just wear those shoes i forgot im human 23:36 yeah 23:36 magic mapping is awesome in gehennom 23:37 I too am a human who sometimes forgets to wear shoes 23:37 haha 23:37 0 AC 23:37 we are cooking with potions of oil 23:37 im happy to have a pony here 23:38 can sell that cloak for cash probs 23:38 if you care about that 23:38 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 23:38 also if you get a saddle you can ride ponies and other tame monsters too 23:38 Priests don't actually have a skill in riding to advance though iirc 23:38 oh im overweight 23:38 time to go back up tot he store 23:39 wheeee 23:40 damn im still overweight 23:40 ok now ill feed the cat tripe 23:42 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Xra Mal Law) killed Moldoux, the Defenceless Mold, on T:4112 23:44 okay i am having a blast but its time to save, eat lunch, and take meds. so it might be a convenient time to switch to your game umb 23:44 Sure sure! 23:44 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dia Xra Mal Law), 9066 points, T:4113, killed by a monster (great wyrm of power) 23:44 I was waiting to start until I could ensure my full attention to my game 23:45 hey i appreciate the co-op mode 23:45 it's way more fun for me given my current skill level, plus sharing the funny shit that happens 23:45 kind of like a D&D table without WOTC bullshit 23:45 right? 23:45 oh man WOTC 23:45 the recent stuff they put out for "diverse villains" 23:46 eesh 23:46 sometimes its worse to try 23:46 1-555-COME-ON-NOW.jpg 23:46 most of us could homebrew better rep in our sleep 23:46 (which honestly makes it even more cooked that WOTC is trying to do our job for us) 23:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6449 23:47 official decisions around MtG at all levels are also just comeon.png 23:47 -!- Roho has joined #hardfought 23:47 anyway 23:47 Hi Roho 23:47 rough luck getting shenron'd that run eh? 23:47 lmk when you get going 23:47 sure thing 23:48 i think Deathsushi is some kind of werething 23:49 @Deathsushi Did you get werefoo'd? 23:49 idk what the deal is she's just a "h" right now instead of a @ 23:49 Oh 23:49 Dorf valk, methinks 23:49 oh right 23:50 there's a showrace option that displays your letter instead of the default @ 23:50 (which you still count as for geno purposes) 23:50 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1080 points, T:2831, [0:11:34], killed by a wand 23:50 i might set that 23:50 imagine if you could be a weredorf tho 23:51 oh dude my earlier run i was like a uhhhhhh 23:51 yeah i was a dwarf and ate a dwarf bc i spaced on it 23:51 insatiable urges to dig holes and kill elve 23:51 elves* 23:51 OH man 23:51 hyeah 23:51 cannibalism is a Bad Idea 23:51 that one got ugly 23:51 i honestly didnt even need it to die in that run 23:51 (unless orc or cavefolk) 23:51 what killed ya 23:52 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 23:52 i confused myself and ran straight into a gnome lord or something like that 23:52 it was embarrassing 23:52 ah RIP 23:52 (obligatory https://hardfought.org/userdata/ plug 23:52 for your manual dumplog searching needs!) 23:52 k2: sneakers was perfect, bless u :) 23:52 yo tommo 23:52 \o/ 23:52 i really like that movie 23:52 glad you did as well 23:53 eh, i am just short of caring enough to comb through, but these are neat 23:54 bottom line i thought i was hot shit and then stumbled right into YASD 23:54 it was super fun 23:55 a badass murder machine dungeon crawler wearing a towel around her face is just funny to me 23:55 which i guess was douglas adams' point to begin with 23:57 that's unrelated to my run, back to watching Deathsushi now 23:57 enervated huh 23:57 ey tommo how are ya 23:57 k2: is sneakers that one movie about hackers you told me about or am i getting things mixed up 23:58 Ah, weakened 23:58 also hackers itself is the best movie ever 23:58 So rings of regen have a message now, sick