00:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 12874 points, T:5335, killed by a crocodile, while frozen by a potion 00:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) destroyed Baalphegor, on T:41591 00:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Mephistopheles, on T:41592 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:37824 00:14 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 49101 points, T:10413, [0:57:51], killed by a wounded minotaur 00:22 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:22 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1891, rt[0:05:00] 00:28 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 2872 points, T:3459, [0:11:07], quit 00:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:27871 00:32 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1197, rt[0:03:32] 00:36 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2630, rt[0:07:30] 00:37 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 2706 points, T:2828, [0:08:54], killed by an uninjured fire ant 00:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1691, rt[0:04:42] 00:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1269 points, T:1739, [0:04:54], killed by an uninjured dwarf 00:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:40962 00:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:59403 00:47 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1730, rt[0:04:47] 00:51 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 00:54 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3123, rt[0:12:15] 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had a silver saber named Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:42955 01:01 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 6686 points, T:4596, [0:19:14], killed by a wounded warhorse 01:02 oh, lucky arc getting Grays 01:03 oooooooooooooooooh 01:07 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1413 points, T:1799, [0:05:23], killed by an uninjured dwarf 01:08 -!- beastlyfido has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:13 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1068, rt[0:04:23] 01:15 aosdict: there is a point under "Behaviour changes" for xnh that reads "Armor" and nothing else 01:18 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 2473 points, T:2327, [0:08:54], quit 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:44608 01:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2923, rt[0:06:39] 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:44612 01:25 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 2582 points, T:2981, [0:07:45], killed by a magic missile 01:31 https://allthetropes.org/w/index.php?title=NetHack/Characters&diff=1873318&oldid=1873280 Phew 01:31 lot of work done today 01:32 You guys think a section might be warranted for like 01:32 Quest nemeses and such 01:33 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1984, rt[0:05:24] 01:33 I'm definitely planning one for demon lords and princes 01:33 -!- tonttu3 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 01:34 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1468 points, T:2010, [0:05:40], killed by a wounded giant mimic 01:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 01:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 01:34 Hi Amy! 01:35 yo Umbire, not much time unfortunately 01:36 had a super-early tour just now and later I'll have a shift as a polling clerk because there's an election in our state today 01:37 Not a prob 01:37 Made a small edit to the trope page, was doing a bunch of other edits that I lost progress on so delayed on that front :/ 01:37 once that's sorted I'll focus on SLEX and other variants tho 01:38 which trope page? the slex one? 01:38 The edits were on other NetHack pages/subpages 01:38 also you should play more slex, then you might find more interesting stuff to put on the pages :D although I agree that finding tropes that fit is the hardest task 01:39 It's not too difficult *just* yet, I just have a lot of tabs open 01:39 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1244, rt[0:05:01] 01:39 And it'd be real fucking nice if they could stay open. 01:44 I've made a small addition to the luck-based mission part of the slex page, but apparently my edits still need to be approved before they go live :P 01:44 Yeah, it's the whole spam thing 01:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:29364 01:45 The privs that circumvent that process are p. easy to get all things considered though 01:46 heh, well I don't have them yet 01:46 anyway I'll be afk for a while now 01:47 Alright, be well 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3515 01:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:29506 01:49 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 3911 points, T:3365, [0:14:46], killed by an uninjured Elvenking 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:3729 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:47110 01:53 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1400, rt[0:04:38] 01:54 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1561 points, T:1490, [0:05:51], killed by an uninjured rock mole 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4373 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 3314 points, T:4724, killed by a heavily wounded troll 03:00 <@Shadow_Rider> Any suggestions for early game healer weapons? 03:02 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1955, rt[0:05:50] 03:02 daggers are usually the easiest to procure 03:03 quarterstaffs and darts aren't bad choices 03:03 Oh yeah, aklys as well 03:03 there's knives but that usually takes a while 03:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Garland, on T:30072 03:04 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 2852 points, T:2445, [0:08:36], killed by an uninjured killer bee 03:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Chaos, on T:30097 03:10 <@Shadow_Rider> Man healers do like no damage 03:10 <@Shadow_Rider> Not used to having to rely on pet 03:11 Better get used to it 03:11 Seriously though pick up an akyls if you can and use Soko to train STR 03:14 <@Shadow_Rider> Gotcha 03:14 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 03:16 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2602, rt[0:11:39] 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 speed boots", on T:48258 03:18 as I mentioned, dagger, darts and knives are also good projectile weapons 03:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 gauntlets of power", on T:48264 03:18 and a quarterstaff is decent for melee/training the QA skill in advance 03:19 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:48270 03:19 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:48270 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:48310 03:32 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 03:33 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 7566 points, T:5952, [0:28:13], quit 03:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:36 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:37 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 03:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2333, rt[0:08:37] 03:43 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:30848 03:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:48570 03:51 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:3113, rt[0:17:20] 03:51 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3179, rt[0:17:31] 03:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:49093 04:01 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 18408 points, T:5128, [0:27:20], killed by a wounded rock troll 04:02 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 100 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:49304 04:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13928 04:10 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:11 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1646 points, T:1918, [0:07:01], killed by a wounded gnome 04:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:50174 04:17 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1209 points, T:1705, [0:06:04], killed by a wounded hill orc 04:19 @le?slex save 04:19 slex save (~) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: none | Alignment: 6 | Flags: genocidable, infravisible 04:19 @le?pumps lady 04:19 pumps lady (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 27 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 10 | Attacks: 4d5 weapon physical, 4d5 kick drop-items | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, infravisible 04:19 yaaaaaay it's working ♥♥♥ many thanks Adeon <3 😍 04:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:31187 04:27 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1493, rt[0:05:27] 04:27 hmm, my local nethack says on exit that it cannot open 'logfile and xlogfile' and asks if nethack is installed correctly? 04:27 should i just touch them? 04:27 or is it an UNIX privilege problem? 04:28 ( i used Snap to install 3,6,6, so it might be that) 04:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Hea Gno Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:14638 04:32 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 04:32 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 04:37 [hdf-eu] [slshm] Feya (Und Dop Fem Neu), 32 points, T:261, killed by a jackal 04:41 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 04:41 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:41 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3554, rt[0:19:54] 04:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 11668 points, T:3677, [0:20:41], killed by an uninjured yeti 04:43 [hdf-eu] [slex] Feya (Bin Bos Fem Neu), 144 points, T:424, killed by a monster (drains rat) 04:44 -!- zhakupov has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1794, rt[0:06:27] 04:53 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:53 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:54087 04:53 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54089 04:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:54137 04:56 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3166, rt[0:14:30] 05:05 [hdf-eu] [sp] Feya (Ran Orc Fem Neu), 1545 points, T:1329, killed by a giant ant 05:06 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:3854, rt[0:23:58] 05:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55038 05:19 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:55044 05:22 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:55225 05:22 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 38366 points, T:6143, [0:40:07], killed by a wounded purple worm 05:24 [hdf-au] [sp] PeachMuffin (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 1957 points, T:1053, killed by a dwarf zombie, while sleeping off a magical draught 05:25 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:55332 05:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:55336 05:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55855 05:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 25 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:55862 05:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:46508 05:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:46510 05:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55923 05:38 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1094, rt[0:09:09] 05:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 365008 points, T:47958, drowned in a pool of water by a giant eel 05:48 ouch lacca :-( 05:49 rip 05:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:56955 05:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56955 05:49 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:57 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 3053 points, T:2906, [0:28:18], killed by a death ray 05:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:7597 05:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:7614 06:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:57266 06:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:57284 06:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 25014 points, T:7829, killed by a fire elemental 06:02 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:57310 06:03 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 06:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:57340 06:04 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "helm of opposite alignment", on T:57356 06:06 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Arc Dwa Fem Cha), 2186400 points, T:57361, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/CatPurrson/nh343/dumplog/1615678124.nh343.txt 06:08 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:09 [hdf-us] [slex] quark (Dis Mis Mal Law), 12100 points, T:1, quit 06:11 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2329, rt[0:10:28] 06:11 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 06:13 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1816 points, T:2492, [0:11:51], killed by a wand 06:19 [hdf-eu] [slex] Feya (Xel Tec Fem Law), 12300 points, T:1, quit 06:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 688 points, T:848, killed by an arrow 06:24 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1474 points, T:4076, killed by a gnome lord 06:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3260, rt[0:16:05] 06:29 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:39447 06:41 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1694 points, T:2278, killed by a giant mimic 06:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4550, rt[0:29:23] 06:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Ghoul-queen Nitocris, on T:32051 06:55 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 12015 points, T:6073, [0:42:31], killed by a wounded horse 06:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6646 06:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6758 06:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:39809 06:58 You see here a statue of a balrog named Dagul. 06:58 RIP 06:59 Why do pets attack beholders when they don't attack footrices... 07:00 rip Dagul :( 07:08 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 909 points, T:2157, [0:06:24], killed by a wounded gnome lord 07:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 12080 points, T:4050, killed by a Green-elf, while praying 07:12 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 442 points, T:1163, [0:03:39], killed by an uninjured giant bat 07:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:26214 07:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8633 07:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 1728 points, T:1252, killed by a parrot 07:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) was given Frost Treads, on T:32391 07:21 FIQ: this is what I get for trying to update the wiki and d&d at the same time 07:24 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 07:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 cursed potions of gain level", on T:88286 07:28 @deathsushi in vanilla, I wished for the same items you had and wore them, and they're not displayed in invlet order; however, they are displayed in the same order in both games. 07:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3474 07:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3474 07:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2849, rt[0:08:50] 07:30 I think the sorting is happening due to the internals of sortloot_cmp() organizing them into subclasses. 07:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3581 07:33 I also played around with the sortloot option. sortloot=loot and sortloot=none both make the items show up in invlet order. so if you don't like them being out of order, try that 07:35 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3781, rt[0:15:20] 07:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed SamG's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:3913 07:36 -!- amateurh1ur has joined #hardfought 07:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 6470 points, T:4011, killed by an uninjured jaguar 07:38 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:38 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 4479 points, T:4736, [0:18:12], killed by a slightly wounded chameleon imitating a fire vortex 07:44 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:10653 07:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5543 07:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1326, rt[0:04:11] 07:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1021 points, T:1371, [0:04:21], killed by a wounded dwarf 07:53 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:11191 08:00 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1513, rt[0:08:27] 08:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:27561 08:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:1894 08:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:17857 08:05 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:27466 08:08 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2616, rt[0:16:41] 08:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:40483 08:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3000 08:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3048 08:12 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:28036 08:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18030 08:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3377 08:17 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:3837, rt[0:25:54] 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 480 points, T:305, killed by a giant spider 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 44 points, T:100, killed by an uninjured jackal, while praying 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 381 points, T:298, killed by an uninjured hobbit 08:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 305 points, T:1218, fell into a pit 08:30 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Offler, on T:8888, rt[0:39:19] 08:32 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 20880 points, T:9088, [0:40:56], quit 08:34 <@nabru> !lastgame Stella 08:34 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1614535650.seed.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1615722699.seed.html 08:37 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: zhakupov] 08:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:41 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:29284 08:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 548 points, T:1274, [0:04:42], killed by a wounded gnome lady 08:47 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 08:49 -!- ryzokuken has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.1 - https://znc.in] 08:50 -!- ryzokuken has joined #hardfought 08:51 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 677 points, T:1706, [0:06:03], killed by a wounded dwarf 08:52 -!- stenno4 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:53 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:30125 09:00 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1936, rt[0:08:59] 09:01 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 09:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:40995 09:03 aren't zruties gone in xNetHack? 09:03 not anymore 09:03 zruties are back in business 09:04 they're back and better than never 09:05 -!- amateurh1ur is now known as amateurhour 09:08 !time 09:08 nabru: Sun Mar 14 09:08:25 2021 EDT 09:08 Pi day! 09:08 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:31048 09:08 YASI: on March 14th your player starts with a cream pi(e) on their inventory. 09:09 xnethack has special named fruits today 09:09 oh nice 09:09 <@Rehord> Why is this pi day 09:09 unnethack and dynahack also do something on pi day iirc 09:09 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day 09:10 <@Rehord> Cool 09:10 aosdict: i already found one pie 09:10 first thought it was from bones but the Valley is a no-bones level IIRC 09:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:41199 09:12 mechanically they're just slime molds under a different name 09:12 actually the valley is eligible for bones, it's just rare to die there 09:12 (that's vanilla) 09:12 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:3130, rt[0:20:58] 09:12 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3166, rt[0:21:21] 09:18 the dynahack wiki page has a bunch of things listed as "[NEW]". anyone know how old they are? 09:18 I mean, it's been several years since it was updated 09:24 are there any new races today? 09:32 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Fem Law) obtained the Sokoban prize, on T:22773 09:33 think it's just ordinary stream this week stenno 09:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver aklys of frost", on T:41364 09:34 ok thanks 09:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed the invisible Mammon, on T:42051 09:36 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Fem Law) killed Yumi Saotome, on T:23274 09:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4034 09:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:4233 09:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:41417 09:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:17996 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] CatPurrson (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 14505 points, T:3085, killed by a plains centaur 09:44 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:33118 09:46 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 09:52 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "3 holy charging", on T:6789, rt[1:01:06] 09:53 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "holy greased fixed bag of holding", on T:6790, rt[1:01:25] 09:53 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:6796, rt[1:02:19] 09:56 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:56 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:7420, rt[1:05:06] 09:56 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:7422, rt[1:05:12] 09:58 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:7490, rt[1:07:07] 09:59 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "holy spellbook of magic mapping", on T:7548, rt[1:07:46] 09:59 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Fem Law) visited all DevNull challenge dungeons, on T:27103 10:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 91389 points, T:20305, killed by a death ray 10:02 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:7760, rt[1:10:59] 10:02 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:7763, rt[1:11:14] 10:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5833 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 26048 points, T:10769, killed by a giant crocodile, while praying 10:19 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 878 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:8887, rt[1:28:22] 10:22 -!- tonttu3 has joined #hardfought 10:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42934 10:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:9367, rt[1:32:58] 10:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:9368, rt[1:32:58] 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 373 points, T:703, killed by an uninjured kitten, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:29 [hdf-us] [seed] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:33608, rt[5:33:52] 10:29 hi 10:29 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 10:31 [hdf-us] [seed] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:33755, rt[5:35:47] 10:31 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:9662, rt[1:39:46] 10:31 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:9666, rt[1:39:51] 10:33 [hdf-us] [seed] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:33774, rt[5:37:45] 10:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:61784 10:35 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:9822, rt[1:43:43] 10:36 [hdf-us] [seed] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:33954, rt[5:40:44] 10:39 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:10016, rt[1:48:20] 10:40 [hdf-us] [seed] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:34125, rt[5:44:32] 10:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1071 points, T:789, killed by a wounded dwarf 10:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:10256, rt[1:53:30] 10:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:10263, rt[1:53:39] 10:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) performed the invocation, on T:43024 10:53 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 304 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:10977, rt[2:01:36] 10:53 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:11028, rt[2:02:02] 10:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:43092 10:59 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:11375, rt[2:08:01] 11:05 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:12255, rt[2:13:54] 11:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 three-headed flail", on T:91280 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] RossinK (Val Hum Fem Law), 88 points, T:520, killed by a grid bug, while unconscious from rotten food 11:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:62406 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 382 points, T:949, killed by a wounded iguana 11:14 I put a listing of all of the pinobot commands on the hardfought website - https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/#bot-commands 11:14 may need to scroll down a bit 11:14 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:12873, rt[2:23:10] 11:14 i should update beholder too 11:15 something like !pinobot to list all the pinobot commands 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7152 11:15 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:12884, rt[2:23:49] 11:16 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed helm of opposite alignment", on T:12903, rt[2:24:42] 11:16 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:12906, rt[2:24:46] 11:16 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Pri Elf Mal Law), 487102 points, T:12906, [2:24:53], ascended 11:16 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1615726296.seed.html 11:17 congrats aoei 11:17 ty 11:17 \o/ 11:17 @?aoei 11:17 aoei ~2~ ape (Y) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Attacks: 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 claw physical, 1d6 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 11:17 :P 11:18 lol 11:18 you dirty ape 11:18 apes strong, hodl stonks 11:19 r/wsb is nuts right now with some people donating some of their GME earning to help endangered gorillas 11:19 how is that nuts? 11:19 gratz aoei ! 11:20 its nuts in that there's a ton of posts about it 11:20 my feed is full of baby gorilla pics 11:20 ah. well, do good and talk about it :) 11:20 i am lol 11:20 much better than crying stonks haters that shorted GME :) 11:20 I've seen enough rich old white men in my lifetime :) 11:21 hahah 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7807 11:23 "CNBC: WSB now interfering with natural selection" "Fox News: WSB are planning "Planet of the apes uprising" against Wall Street." 11:23 the headlines write themselves 11:24 bitcoin went over 60k USD earlier today 11:24 crazy times 11:25 exactly 1 year after the bottom of the last bear market. probably not a coincidence 11:25 can you buy cute lil baby bears there? 11:26 I just looked and somebody adopted a rhinoceros and somebody else a wolf 11:26 there's probably some meme in going for gorillas but I wouldn't know the connection (ape shit crazy?) 11:27 :) 11:37 I think wsbers call themselves "dumb apes" among other things? 11:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) entered the Planes, on T:43833 11:40 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Fem Law), 341673 points, T:33055, killed by a monster (torchblaze) 11:40 rats 11:40 the sewers got me again 11:42 damn, wish I'd realised I had +8 victorian underwear 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1962 points, T:2495, killed by an uninjured dwarf 11:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Hea Gno Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:21774 11:53 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 11:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) destroyed Death, on T:44097 11:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non), 5600573 points, T:44122, escaped (in celestial disgrace) 12:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 719 points, T:986, killed by a piranha 12:03 I still have 2.7 ethereum locked up because I don't remember the password 12:03 not sure if I can say "I own" it if I can't accesss it 12:03 if I get into freak accident that jogs my memory really well in near future THEN I own ethereum 12:04 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 688 points, T:1339, killed by a gnome 12:05 you own a safe even if you lost the combination to unlock it 12:06 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: zhakupov] 12:10 a)pply a stethoscope, problem solved 12:14 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 302 points, T:861, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 12:15 just guess the private key 12:15 I'm trying to figure out how to own a house 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 65 points, T:292, killed by an electric shock 12:15 I became a permanent resident of the united states on friday 12:15 which made me feel alright about committing to buying some property and living in there 12:16 but it's still so expensive so I must get educated to make sure I can have a good deal 12:16 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 12:16 sounds as if missing ~4k USD is not a big problem then 12:16 in bay area houses are 1 million USD and up 12:16 my rent is 3k per month 12:17 I don't have 1 million USD but I have enough income for a mortgage 12:17 yeah well hmm 12:17 it's a bit of bummer 12:17 but I can't do anything about it 12:17 I have the ethereum files 12:17 maybe eventually it'll be possible to crack them 12:18 well that would be quite the problem 12:18 given that a eth wallet is just derived from a public key which is derived from a private 12:18 key 12:19 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 342 points, T:752, killed by a gnome 12:19 the files are geth files 12:19 I think it's using scrypt 12:19 I forgot 12:19 so if you can create 32-byte numbers really fast, and check them against the blockchain 12:20 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 12 points, T:145, killed by a bolt of lightning 12:21 there are 700 000 active ETH addresses 12:21 there are 115,792,089,237,316,195,423,570,985,008,687,907,853,269,984,665,640,564,039,457,584,007,913,129,639,936 possible addresses 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1719 points, T:1400, killed by a wounded snake 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2891 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 358 points, T:2900, killed by a wounded hill orc 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:12131 12:25 i wonder if that would even be illegal 12:26 what do you mean 12:26 there is no timeout or anything so it can all be done offline, assuming a certain state of the blockchain 12:26 Adeon: just guess private keys until you find an address with eth on it 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:682 12:27 if you remember some part of the password, you could reduce the search space 12:27 I 12:28 I remember that they were guessing private keys for some online wallet generators with bugs in it and brain wallet generators. 12:28 I have some guesses what the password might look like 12:28 some of the cracker tools take pattern 12:28 john the ripper and hashcat 12:29 but even then cracking scrypt is slow 12:29 you can simply implement the algorithm itself 12:29 its like 3 lines of python with a library 12:29 oh wait for your geth thingy 12:29 never mind 12:30 yeah in my head I gave up 12:30 it's not huge money for me, at least at current prices 12:30 geth is written in go. adapting that for brute forcing would probably not that much of an issue 12:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:63640 12:32 does geth do the mnemonic thing? 12:32 I think geth is the low-level software you use from command line 12:32 I used some other wallet software on top of it 12:32 mist browser 12:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:63642 12:33 [hdf-eu] [slex] ElPsyCongrooGoku (Div Sta Mal Law), 650 points, T:1379, killed by a monster (invisible Dislexiapater) 12:35 looks like geth itself just asks for a 'passphrase' when creating a new account 12:35 hmm, I'm pretty sure that mist was just a frontend for geth in that regard 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1331 12:36 mist itself was an electron app 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 588 points, T:1361, killed by an orcish arrow 12:36 well a 'wallet' itself isn't really a thing in etherium 12:36 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1131 points, T:2642, killed by an ape 12:37 so i guess you are just creating your account in geth and then put the private key into mist 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 327 points, T:1320, killed by an uninjured giant mimic 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4800 points, T:5040, killed by a nearly deceased owlbear 12:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 29080 points, T:13590, petrified by a cockatrice 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:1909 12:42 the keystore file holds all the data that is required for a single address. as Ethereum has a different account model than Bitcoin, you can operate on single addresses, something usually not recommended with Bitcoin 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1994 12:43 yes and an address can be derived from a private key 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1661 points, T:2140, killed by a wounded rothe 12:45 ah well i don't really understand 12:46 i guess you need a password to decrypt your private key 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 171 points, T:254, killed by a wand 12:47 https://julien-maffre.medium.com/what-is-an-ethereum-keystore-file-86c8c5917b97 12:47 right 12:48 Adeon congrats on your citizenship 12:48 3k rent... uuuuugh 12:48 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 400 points, T:1186, rt[0:07:53], wc[0:07:54], killed by a wounded kitten 12:48 it's encrypted with scrypt and your passphrase I guess. 12:48 not citizenship 12:48 green card 12:48 citizenship comes 5 years later 12:48 but I am mostly treated like US citizen 12:48 I can go to the fast line at border 12:48 ah 12:48 well regardless, congrats 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 132 points, T:703, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 12:49 there's several benefits I get I didn't have before 12:49 1) I can have income not related to my main job 12:49 2) I don't have to live in SF anymore 12:49 3k rent sounds more expensive than hong kong 12:49 i guess it depends on the size of your flat 12:49 your rent is twice my mortgage 12:49 3) I can quit my job and go work for someone else 12:49 Adeon: The housing prices are much lower in some (most) other parts of the country. 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:160983 12:50 But yes, green card means you can do most of the things a citizen can do, with notable exceptions being voting and running for most public political offices. 12:50 Adeon is it possible for your job to be 100% remote from home? 12:50 yes 12:50 So for example you could move to Minnesota. 12:50 nice 12:50 well, that how it has been since pandemic anyway 12:51 I have been entirely remote for 1 year now almost exactly 12:51 but before pandemic I liked going to the office because I like socializing with coworkers 12:52 Hmm, so you kind of want to stay within travel distance of the office? 12:52 That does limit your moving-to-Minnesota options if so. 12:52 I'm still at phase where I want to develop career so yeah probably house will need to be in bay area somewhere 12:53 but you'd need 1 million for that 12:53 I can convince a bank that I don't have 1 million now but I can make small payments over a longer period of time that will sum up to 1 million 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:4 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 20 points, T:4, killed by a scroll of earth 12:54 Hmm. Rent of $3k/month is a much smaller fraction of the price of a house, than rent here is of the price of a house here. 12:54 or I can go to live in a forest in montana 12:54 which will be cheap 12:54 I can do that now 12:54 as a permanent resident 12:55 Rent here is generally $500/month and up. And a house can be, say, $50 thousand, which is only 100 times a month's rent. 12:55 Similar house price in your area would be $300k, but you can't buy one for that. 12:56 I wonder if a larger percentage of the population rents out there, as a result. Wouldn't surprise me. 12:56 trick is to balance rent cost vs commute time 12:57 Well, he can telecommute much of the time. 12:57 you can find cheaper rent outside the bay area, but how far do you want to drive to and from work each day 12:57 I think you have to go quite far from the Bay Area to get reasonable housing prices. 12:57 Though I haven't done a detailed study on that. 12:58 borrowing so much money to buy a house seems silly imo 12:58 unless you are planning to have a family or so 12:59 Here, buying a house works out to be advantageous if you're planning to stick around for ten years, because you build equity. 12:59 But, our house-price-to-rent ratio is lower, so that could impact that. 13:00 its not that you are living for free when you own a house 13:00 when we were searching for our home, I told my wife to make sure what she picks she'll really love, because once we get it we're never moving again :) 13:00 stenno1: You have homeowner's expenses, yes, I'm aware. 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 258 points, T:815, killed by a water moccasin 13:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:01 paying towards a mortgage increaes your equity, paying rent does not 13:01 owning vs renting is a win-win 13:01 stenno1: But if the mortgage payment is about the same as rent and you're building equity that outweighs your maintenance costs, it's advantageous. 13:02 The rule of thumb in the Midwest is, if you're staying for ten years, buy. 13:02 and once the mortgage is paid off, yout only monthly bill for the house are taxes and insurance. WAY less than the mortgage part 13:02 But if rent is cheaper as compared to the cost of the house, as in Adeon's case, that might be different then. 13:02 K2: you still have to pay for energy and water or no? 13:02 K2: You've got to put money in your budget for repairs as well. 13:03 well sure 13:03 stenno1: You have to pay those even if you rent.. 13:03 i dont pay for water, i have a well 13:03 jonadab: yes 13:03 and here soon i'll install solar panels 13:03 Well, yes, if you're out in the styx, you don't have municipal water. 13:03 but even so, electric bill never goes above 130 usd/month 13:03 we dont have AC 13:03 dont need it :P 13:04 Only DC? 13:04 hah 13:04 Haha. 13:04 i KNEW someone was gonna comment like that thank you Pinkbeast :P 13:04 K2: Are your summers really that cool? 13:04 cool enough 13:04 Huh. 13:04 Vermont isn't *that* much further north than Ohio. 13:04 we see some days go above 90 F but its not bad 13:04 And summer without AC is dreadful here. 13:05 We have entire months wherein the temperature does not drop below 80 even at night, and the humidity is high. 13:05 we get some high humidity too sometimes but not constant 13:05 not like the midwest or oklahoma/texas 13:05 The only time our humidity ever gets low is in the dead of winter. 13:05 but we're near a lake 13:08 but yeah we've been here 10 years almost to the day. not moving 13:08 *been here in this house 13:08 been in VT a bit longer 13:08 but yeah for Adeon now, a lot more options and possibilities. that's awesome 13:08 Yes, green card is freedom. 13:09 K2: It's the least I could do, a quantity I specialise in 13:09 Among other things, he's allowed to change jobs now if he wants. 13:09 :) 13:11 [hdf-us] [un] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2571 points, T:1794, killed by a jaguar 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 865 points, T:1991, killed by an uninjured giant ant 13:12 go team a! 13:18 there's a bit of nuance with the "change of jobs" 13:18 I was given green card on the premise that "my company needs me to do a certain function permanently" 13:19 i.e. I'm not really the one making the application; my employer did it because they need me on permanent basis 13:19 if I quit immediately then USCIS can ask what was the application about for permanent employment if I just quit right away 13:20 but in practice USCIS does not audit anything and after 5 years even if they think it was fradulent they have a policy to not pursue remedy 13:20 the one place it can make a difference is when you are making citizenship application 13:21 USCIS can deny it if they think your green card is bad 13:21 but they still are unlikely to deport you so you would just live your life as green card holder instead 13:21 sounds a bit as if you actually planning to quit? 13:21 or is that just about having the option 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 263 points, T:1779, died of starvation, while fainted 13:22 it's the option 13:22 i assume it puts quite some pressure on you if your workplace is chained to your right to live in the country you are living in 13:22 the pressure is nowhere near the pressure of pre-green card where quitting means you immediately have to leave the country 13:23 right 13:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:29 [hdf-eu] [spl] bmx007 (Mon Dwa Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3316 13:34 [hdf-eu] [spl] bmx007 (Mon Dwa Nbn Law) entered a shop, on T:3528 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3369 13:37 [hdf-eu] [slshm] joes (Bar Elf Mal Neu), 355 points, T:666, killed by a hobbit 13:40 [hdf-eu] [spl] bmx007 (Mon Dwa Nbn Law), 1310 points, T:3542, killed by a wand 13:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Pir Dro Fem Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:860 13:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:32802 13:51 <@deathsushi> Waht the heck is an "irrational pie" 13:51 <@deathsushi> Is that somethign that only shows up on pi day? 13:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 588004 points, T:33879, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:59 yeah, it's just a fruit with a celebratory name 14:04 <@nabru> ! lastgame vis 14:04 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/Vis/dnethack/dumplog/1536429901.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/V/Vis/dnethack/dumplog/1615572486.dnh.txt 14:05 ah the temple of moloch is really nasty now 14:06 there's 3 hostile priests of moloch in there and their spells are really horrid 14:07 <@deathsushi> What fun! 14:07 <@deathsushi> amateurhour: Now, relative to what? 14:08 well in dnh before you could just wait by the entrance and the priests would die to a hezrou 14:08 or whatever the stinking cloud demon is 14:08 <@deathsushi> Ah got it 14:08 <@deathsushi> Yah, hezrou 14:08 <@deathsushi> Is there any indication or reference to what level of spellbook I can read? 14:08 <@deathsushi> I haven't found anything on the wiki 14:09 <@deathsushi> Just "Only read uncursed spellbooks" 14:09 success rate of spellbook reading section I guess 14:10 <@deathsushi> Oh geez... don't konw how I missed that 14:11 chance is Int+4+XL/2-BL*2 in 20 14:12 <@deathsushi> Oh and I see there's a reading spoiler too 14:12 <@deathsushi> http://www.steelypips.org/nethack/spellreading.html 14:12 <@deathsushi> Awesome 14:12 <@deathsushi> Thanks for the help on this question 14:14 <@deathsushi> Wow, IN 10. My Monk is DUMB 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 1430 points, T:3487, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:17 [hdf-eu] [slshm] joes (Yeo Elf Mal Law), 3061 points, T:2839, killed by a soldier ant 14:17 yeah, though lenses such as the eyes can help with that 14:18 <@deathsushi> Yah 14:18 <@deathsushi> And I'll eventually get smarter — the rule of nethack 14:18 <@deathsushi> No matter how dumb your character is, they'll be smart by the time you finish, usually 14:18 <@deathsushi> But this guy is a real mouth-breather right now 14:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:64425 14:23 -!- Nelennath has quit [] 14:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:42109 14:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Ran Cen Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3374 14:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Ran Cen Mal Cha), 4638 points, T:3377, killed by a warg 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2954 points, T:3979, killed by a dwarf lady 14:39 -!- joppe has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 301 points, T:723, killed by a giant cockroach 14:45 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 233 points, T:835, [0:02:07], killed by a wounded sewer rat 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 103 points, T:349, killed by a boulder 14:48 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1212 points, T:2460, killed by an orcish arrow 14:48 -!- Nelennath has joined #hardfought 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 312 points, T:1970, killed by a nearly deceased giant bat 14:50 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1353 points, T:1594, [0:03:44], quit 14:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:3462 15:01 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2152, rt[0:05:10] 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 83 points, T:384, killed by a wounded jackal, while praying 15:03 <@deathsushi> While praying?! 15:03 <@deathsushi> I thought you were safe while praying 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 23 points, T:86, killed by a wand 15:04 if it's unsuccessful I think 15:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3030 15:06 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:4367, rt[0:10:21] 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 334 points, T:2113, killed by a gas spore's explosion, while helpless 15:09 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 3697 points, T:5920, [0:13:26], killed by an uninjured manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 2401 points, T:4092, killed by a boulder 15:14 -!- tonttu3 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:15 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3622, rt[0:06:12] 15:17 @e?basilisk 15:17 basilisk (c) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 70 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -10 | Attacks: 2d4 bite physical, 1d6 touch petrification, 1d6 touch petrification, 2d8 claw physical, 0d0 passive petrification | Alignment: -5 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, thick hide, touch petrifies, infravisible 15:24 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6509, rt[0:14:40] 15:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 29031 points, T:15316, killed by a moderately wounded pit viper, while paralyzed by a monster 15:26 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 15:27 <@deathsushi> Does stealth work differently in xnethack? Twice now, I have stealth and when I attack a leprachaun in an Lhall, or a monster in a throne room, everyone wakes up 15:27 <@deathsushi> Ah, just saw it on the page. It has a reduced radius 15:30 Well, also fighting things makes noise. 15:30 [hdf-eu] [slshm] luisjo (Ice Vam Mal Cha), 1672 points, T:853, escaped 15:30 "I'm stealthy" should not be something that allows you to slaughter a room of monsters in perfect silence. 15:31 @e?basilisk 15:31 basilisk (c) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 70 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -10 | Attacks: 2d4 bite physical, 1d6 touch petrification, 1d6 touch petrification, 2d8 claw physical, 0d0 passive petrification | Alignment: -5 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, thick hide, touch petrifies, infravisible 15:32 cant believe u nerfed our ninja skills aosdict 15:32 tell you what, polyinit into a ninja 15:32 <@deathsushi> aosdict: right, that's fair, I get where you're coming from 15:32 <@deathsushi> It does seem like stealth is vastly less useful now though 15:32 <@deathsushi> Are there situations you envision people still using stealth for? 15:33 <@deathsushi> The main times I've wanted it are when rooms filled with sleeping monsters (zoos, thrones, etc.) 15:33 can you still creep through a zoo with a wand of tele? 15:33 stealth is still good for *moving around* sleeping monsters without waking them 15:34 like a pesky nymph you don't want disturbed 15:34 but if you take a swing at something that's gonna make noise 15:34 <@deathsushi> Gotcha 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 286 points, T:976, killed by a nearly deceased coyote, while praying 15:36 -!- tonttu3 has joined #hardfought 15:36 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:11432, rt[0:27:00] 15:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:4993 15:37 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 15:41 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1610, rt[0:14:38] 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 790 points, T:2370, killed by a dwarf king 15:42 <@deathsushi> aosdict: I just got a "You fail to cast the spell correctly" message 15:42 <@deathsushi> But I thought xnethack had replaced spell failure with increased PW cost 15:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:5460 15:45 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14547, rt[0:35:25] 15:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5556 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 55 points, T:127, killed by a boulder 15:46 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:15644, rt[0:36:46] 15:46 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:16465, rt[0:37:10] 15:48 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2274, rt[0:22:39] 15:50 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2374, rt[0:24:10] 15:58 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:3846, rt[0:36:58] 16:04 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:26462, rt[0:54:46] 16:05 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:26681, rt[0:55:40] 16:08 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:28658, rt[0:58:40] 16:09 @deathsushi that still happens when confused/stunned 16:10 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dra Asg Mal Law), 29656 points, T:11223, killed by a monster (Ms. Narodnaja, the shopkeeper) 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1853 16:11 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 16:11 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:11 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4546, rt[0:45:21] 16:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:42414 16:12 <@deathsushi> aosdict: Ah, got it! 16:12 <@deathsushi> Nice to have power regen much faster 16:12 <@deathsushi> Feels less like a one and done kind of thing 16:13 <@deathsushi> "Welp, I used my spells for the next three dungeon levels" 16:14 ? 16:17 <@deathsushi> Umbire: Pw regen often felt excruciatingly slow in vanilla 16:17 oh 16:17 One of INT or WIS covers that stat right? 16:17 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Fem Law), 26421 points, T:4739, killed by a cowardly attack on her breasts 16:17 lol 16:19 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1157 points, T:2126, rt[0:09:51], wc[3:33:27], killed by a wounded imp 16:21 I suppose using all your spells for the next three dungeon levels does keep some of that Vancian feeling 16:22 "please retreat to Minetown and get a room at the inn to complete your long rest" 16:22 Also varies with whether or not you're combat casting 16:25 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:5543, rt[0:58:36] 16:25 attack spells tend to be the least efficient way to spend Pw 16:26 so you can only use them for the toughest monsters 16:29 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "3 cursed genocide", on T:33600, rt[1:19:24] 16:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Pir Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2425 16:32 -!- ihatesoldiera has joined #hardfought 16:33 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34786, rt[1:23:59] 16:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:65144 16:34 oof 16:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:65146 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 294 points, T:2854, killed by an uninjured gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:42 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 16:43 getting into nethack again, ihatesoldiera ? 16:43 haha 16:43 I always come crawling back it seems 16:44 nice 16:44 hello 16:44 Hello ihatesoldiera, Welcome to #hardfought 16:44 there have been some changes 16:44 hi 16:44 Hello stenno1, Welcome to #hardfought 16:45 I ascended a local 3.6.6 dwarven valkyrie, now I've splatted a few not-easiest-starter types 16:45 I must relearn my lessons 16:45 gotta check out 3.7 16:45 its better 16:45 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:37711, rt[1:35:38] 16:45 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37713, rt[1:35:42] 16:45 Are people mainly playing the development version? 16:45 on this server they are, i guess 16:45 nao ofc only hosts the released versions 16:46 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Hum Fem Law), 132 points, T:617, rt[0:03:39], wc[0:03:40], killed by a boulder 16:46 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 16:46 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:6182, rt[1:20:22] 16:47 hdf doesn't even offer vanilla 3.6.x 16:47 so 3.7 is the best vanilla choice there 16:47 was just wondering that 16:49 oh huh they brought in the genetic engineer 16:49 themed rooms look like they could be interesting 16:50 'lo 16:50 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "3 holy charging", on T:38387, rt[1:40:47] 16:50 'high 16:50 <@910rd> hmm I wonder if the game just crashed 16:51 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "holy ring of teleport control", on T:38566, rt[1:42:00] 16:51 hey 16:51 Hello ihatesoldiera, Welcome to #hardfought 16:51 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:38568, rt[1:42:05] 16:51 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 16:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 420 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:38964, rt[1:44:17] 16:55 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:39157, rt[1:45:21] 16:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39848, rt[1:48:31] 16:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39851, rt[1:48:33] 17:00 [hdf-eu] [spl] bmx007 (Sam Hum Nbn Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3074 17:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1432 17:01 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:40105, rt[1:51:28] 17:02 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:40619, rt[1:52:29] 17:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41243, rt[1:53:33] 17:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41252, rt[1:53:38] 17:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:1925 17:05 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:05 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "3 holy gold detection", on T:41316, rt[1:55:27] 17:08 [hdf-eu] [spl] bmx007 (Sam Hum Nbn Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3363 17:08 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 150495 points, T:7242, [1:41:59], killed by a slightly wounded glass golem 17:08 :c 17:09 [hdf-eu] [spl] bmx007 (Sam Hum Nbn Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:3397 17:09 Ah man Minetown temple coaligned and I'm a monk 17:09 And was thinking of trying for atheist if I want any extra conducts 17:09 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:41458, rt[1:59:54] 17:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:41770, rt[2:02:14] 17:13 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:41899, rt[2:03:29] 17:13 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:41902, rt[2:03:32] 17:16 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 17:19 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 130 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43244, rt[2:09:34] 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:65575 17:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "3 cursed gain level", on T:43409, rt[2:11:01] 17:21 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1004, rt[0:04:52] 17:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed yoleo531's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1757 17:22 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:1118, rt[0:05:51] 17:22 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:24 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:44683, rt[2:14:29] 17:24 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44754, rt[2:15:04] 17:26 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:44956, rt[2:17:02] 17:27 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:44987, rt[2:17:29] 17:27 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 helm of opposite alignment named nice", on T:45008, rt[2:18:02] 17:27 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:45010, rt[2:18:06] 17:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Necromancer, on T:66162 17:32 -!- ihatesoldiera has left #hardfought 17:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:66172 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 11 points, T:83, killed by a nearly deceased fox 17:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1218 points, T:1523, killed by an uninjured hill orc 17:43 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4374, rt[0:27:39] 17:44 [hdf-eu] [spl] bmx007 (Sam Hum Nbn Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4369 17:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:43160 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:267 17:55 [hdf-eu] [spl] bmx007 (Sam Hum Nbn Law), 2140 points, T:4643, inhumed by a gray unicorn 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 27 points, T:23, killed by a poisonous corpse 17:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6651, rt[0:40:21] 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:11363 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:11401 17:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Ran Orc Fem Law), 435812 points, T:45010, [2:18:14], ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/setseed/dumplog/1615748985.seed.html 17:58 Geeg 17:59 grats luxidream 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 659 points, T:925, killed by an uninjured giant bat 18:02 <@luxidream> oh it just displayed 18:02 <@luxidream> because I forgot the end the game after streaming 🙃 18:02 looooooooooooool 18:02 <@luxidream> /s /the/to 18:03 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 18:04 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 444 points, T:923, killed by a wounded dwarf 18:05 two games in two minutes? what would treebeard think of this 18:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 24079 points, T:6655, petrified by a cockatrice 18:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43560 18:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful white unicorn, on T:66371 18:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Rog Elf Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:43561 18:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1257 18:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Tonttu (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:66415 18:19 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:31 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 493 points, T:1376, rt[0:05:18], wc[0:27:04], killed by a slightly wounded coyote 18:31 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 18:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:8404 18:40 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1960, rt[0:09:10] 18:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8606 18:43 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Pri Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2243, rt[0:11:58] 18:44 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 18:49 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:9621 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3934 19:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10747 19:04 <@deathsushi> I came across a dagger named "Barman's Friend" 19:04 <@deathsushi> Does that mean anything, aside from a possibly bones file? 19:05 In xNet, right? 19:05 Iunno 19:05 aosdict, you got anything for ys? 19:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:11060 19:07 -!- Merlek has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1583 points, T:3293, killed by a heavily wounded rope golem 19:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:11135 19:11 <@deathsushi> Umbire: Yah, xnet 19:17 <@deathsushi> Ooh, ring of polymorph and ring of poly control? 19:17 <@deathsushi> $_$ 19:19 @deathsushi it's one of the random named weapons 19:20 so that means it's somewhat good, likely +2 19:20 or more 19:22 Oh shit, named weapons in xNet? 19:22 pog 19:23 -!- Merlek has joined #hardfought 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 372 points, T:2734, killed by a wounded dwarf 19:33 <@deathsushi> Ah cool 19:33 <@deathsushi> Thanks aosidct 19:33 <@deathsushi> Is tehre a place where I can see the alternative sources of telepathy? 19:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 169 points, T:442, killed by a water elemental 19:33 <@deathsushi> Oh nvm, found it 19:34 alternative sources? 19:34 it's basically casters 19:34 but the chance is a lot lower than floating eye 19:35 I fixed the thing where monster lookup didn't show monsters conveying telepathy (not yet deployed to hdf), thank you for the repors 19:35 reports 19:35 did you see my msg about the sortloot thing 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 428 points, T:1731, killed by an arrow 19:38 <@deathsushi> Ah got it 19:38 <@deathsushi> I foudn it in the xnet wiki page 19:38 <@deathsushi> Also, I sorted out the sortloot 19:39 <@deathsushi> It was because lower case was sorting ahead of upper 19:39 <@deathsushi> Maybe you msg'd the same thing 😄 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 3003 points, T:4871, killed by a dwarf lady, while dressing up 19:41 !lastgame hothraxxa 19:41 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/evilhack/dumplog/1615757709.evil.html 19:42 <@Umby> @luxidream Finished the Knight thing 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a scimitar entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:68212 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:68435 19:50 nabru: sloppy play capped by a poor decision 19:51 forgot to put my armour back on after buc test. decided to try to put it back on while under attack 19:54 Forgot that putting on armor makes you helpless in vanilla? 19:54 (In NH4 it's an interruptible occupation.) 19:55 (Like digging.) 19:55 @deathsushi if you want your inventory arranged strictly by inventory letter, you should not use sortloot:full. 19:58 Oh, man, I'm trying to imagine playing with that setting, and I don't think I could do it. 20:00 <@deathsushi> aosdict: Right 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:69081 20:16 -!- tonttu3 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 20:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 3376 points, T:2584, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:1791 20:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15744 20:27 <@deathsushi> 20:28 niceu 20:36 nice, a healer named Rx 20:37 haha 20:38 <@deathsushi> Are unicorns rarer in xnethack? 20:38 no 20:38 <@deathsushi> I've yet to encouner a single one 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3340 20:38 variant paranoia 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:69717 20:39 Huh, haven't actually troped that yet 20:39 Tasks for later. 20:40 <{Demo}> xnh lowers monster generation rates 20:40 <{Demo}> but spawns more monsters on new levels 20:40 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Dra Asg Mal Law), 17534 points, T:4315, killed by a monster (giant luggage) 20:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2127 20:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2483 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4341 20:51 <@deathsushi> mm 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4369 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2525 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1155 20:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3152 20:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3186 20:58 team a made me do it 20:59 !gt a 21:00 Go team a! 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful housecat, on T:4855 21:01 now you are a believer in the Antchrist 21:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:17479 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4962 points, T:5156, killed by a wounded black unicorn 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:4376 21:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:21 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 222 points, T:961, killed by a wounded coyote 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5392 21:29 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5862 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:5862 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 6 shuriken on an altar, on T:5866 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 11634 points, T:10093, choked on a tin of spinach 22:15 <@nabru> !lastgame shadowrider38 22:15 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/nethack/dumplog/1615761573.nh.html 22:19 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3117 22:31 https://allthetropes.org/wiki/XNetHack Just letting you all know this exists now 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3777 22:34 <@Shadow_Rider> @nabru no please don’t look I don’t want to talk about it 22:34 <@nabru> 😐 22:34 <@nabru> happens 22:34 <@nabru> I've lost a very high level character to overeating 22:35 Yeah, reflex does that 22:35 No shame (well not too much) 22:35 <@nabru> https://old.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/i7fwn7/overeating_is_bad_for_you_kids_or_how_to_lose_a/ 22:35 "Just one more giant corpse..." 22:36 one time I choked on a wraith corpse 22:37 wafer-thin wraith 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16102 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1554 points, T:3831, poisoned by an orcish arrow 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Geryon, on T:70089 22:52 imagining a player who chokes on a wraith corpse, is lifesaved, and then immediately dies choking on another wraith corpse 22:53 Wouldn't they also vomit if lifesaved that way? 22:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Big Room, on T:20015 22:59 oh? I don't know about that 23:00 If I remember from reading + it happening to me they should 23:01 Hm, seems not 23:02 Just remembered life saving sets your nutrition to a fixed level anyhow so moot point 23:06 <@deathsushi> Is there a way to wake up my sleeping pet that doesn't make it hostile? 23:07 Umbire, oh, thanks. i didn't know that, just thought it'd reset nutrition if starved 23:07 "Your nutrition is restored to 500, if it is less than this. 23:07 If you died from choking over your food, your nutrition becomes 900." 23:08 Deathsushi any source of significant noise can wake up a pet 23:08 And pets aren't gonna turn hostile just from being woken up 23:08 Unless you do so in a way that abuses it enough to zero out its tameness or worse 23:08 (and at that point you clearly have bigger problems) 23:10 YANI: cats should get double tameness decrease from being woken up by the player 23:11 unless it was by opening a tin (which should wake up cats within 10 squares) 23:11 :3 23:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:33571 23:24 Silly cats 23:24 deathsushi, how was it put to sleep? Kicking a wall might work. 23:25 Or kicking a random object 23:27 There are musical instruments that can wake sleeping monsters; I don't recall which ones though (cursed whistle?) 23:27 !who 23:27 K2: [hdf-us] fakepass [dnh] KrO2 [dnh] Deathsushi [xnh] bouquet [evil] | [hdf-eu] ElPsyCongrooGoku [slex] | [hdf-au] No current players 23:27 Cursed whistle should do it 23:27 I think most other instruments should wake them (and also likely scare them but hey ho) 23:28 Like that matters 23:28 @deathsushi mind saving? I need to patch xnethack real quick 23:28 will literally take a second 23:29 i wonder why monster spawns are partly XL based and partly DVLV based. at some point, someone thought "the denizens of the dungeon should be completely different depending on how skilled the adventurer is". was that all the way back in hack, or is that a nethackism? 23:30 the other roguelikes i've played, the dungeon is what it is, and it's up to *you* to meet *it*, not vice versa 23:32 That's a "video gameism" 23:32 Because this is a video game 23:33 <@deathsushi> Saved and out 23:33 <@deathsushi> K2 Thanks for the heads' up 23:34 @deathsushi no prob. all patched, you can resume 23:34 <@deathsushi> Merci 23:34 xNetHack updated (all servers) 23:36 <@deathsushi> Just a bug fix? 23:40 lots of encyclopedia additions 23:43 [hdf-eu] [slex] ElPsyCongrooGoku (Pro Bea Fem Neu), 3423 points, T:2150, killed by a monster (baby psychic dragon) 23:44 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 23:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:21711 23:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:71934 23:55 <@deathsushi> nice kill 23:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] Deathsushi (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:21969 23:55 <@deathsushi> Begone 23:55 L