00:01 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:8848, rt[1:16:29] 00:05 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:9486, rt[1:19:52] 00:05 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:14686, rt[0:39:45] 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 502 points, T:756, killed by a nearly deceased gnome lord 00:08 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "marker", on T:14918, rt[0:42:23] 00:09 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "holy greased fixed bag of holding", on T:15580, rt[0:43:49] 00:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:16277, rt[0:46:01] 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) averted death (killed by an uninjured rothe), on T:3040 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 563 points, T:3043, killed by an uninjured rothe, while sleeping 00:14 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 2854 points, T:1503, rt[0:13:08], wc[1:04:37], killed by a wounded panther, while praying 00:14 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 00:18 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:17429, rt[0:52:06] 00:18 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17435, rt[0:52:11] 00:19 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 729 points, T:820, [0:03:49], killed by a wounded dwarf 00:19 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 00:24 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "holy wand of polymorph", on T:18893, rt[0:57:57] 00:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:19206, rt[1:02:31] 00:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:19207, rt[1:02:35] 00:29 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "holy greased ring of teleport control", on T:19212, rt[1:02:58] 00:29 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:19281, rt[1:03:17] 00:30 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 00:31 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:19685, rt[1:05:16] 00:31 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:19687, rt[1:05:18] 00:32 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) genocided class g, on T:19830, rt[1:05:57] 00:33 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:21040, rt[1:07:44] 00:33 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:21042, rt[1:07:45] 00:34 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:21236, rt[1:08:46] 00:35 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:35 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "7 candles", on T:21551, rt[1:09:50] 00:36 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:16169, rt[1:51:04] 00:36 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:21571, rt[1:10:15] 00:36 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:21655, rt[1:10:44] 00:36 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:21661, rt[1:10:46] 00:42 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 52 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:22871, rt[1:16:33] 00:43 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:23134, rt[1:17:37] 00:43 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 44 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:23206, rt[1:17:50] 00:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 106910 points, T:17097, [2:00:37], quit 00:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 93844 points, T:10588, quit 00:46 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 00:47 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:24371, rt[1:21:16] 00:48 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:24474, rt[1:22:01] 00:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 00:51 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:24737, rt[1:25:14] 00:51 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:24744, rt[1:25:27] 00:52 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "helm of opposite alignment named plz", on T:24776, rt[1:26:10] 00:52 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:24778, rt[1:26:13] 00:53 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:24832, rt[1:27:16] 00:53 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:24852, rt[1:27:24] 00:53 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Law), 367537 points, T:24852, rt[1:27:27], wc[1:27:44], ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/setseed/dumplog/1615091146.seed.html 00:53 GG 00:54 What's your fastest Monk time again, I forget 00:54 <@luxidream> this is new pb I think 00:54 Oh sick 00:54 <@luxidream> old pb was bad though 00:55 <@luxidream> polyself monk is silly and fun 00:56 delicious cheesy fun 00:57 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2276, rt[0:08:26] 00:57 <@luxidream> aoei why are you still awake 00:58 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:58 cramming for the race tomorrow :B 00:59 -!- dmikemiller has joined #hardfought 01:00 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2964 points, T:2730, [0:12:15], quit 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:27127 01:01 idk 01:01 <@luxidream> did you stay up all night 01:01 ye 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2875 01:02 <@luxidream> lol go to sleep 01:02 k 01:04 Yeah slep 01:04 don't want u crashing midrace 01:04 im not racing lol 01:05 <@luxidream> yea aoei has been in the past 01:05 <@luxidream> 3 races 01:05 <@luxidream> give her a break 01:05 -!- aoei_ has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- aoei_ has left #hardfought 01:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Mercury, on T:3819 01:06 its AG, a-hour, ... and who else? 01:07 <@luxidream> bouquet 01:11 Oh sorry 01:11 misremembered 01:11 still, sleep! 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1369 points, T:4241, killed by an uninjured homunculus, while sleeping 01:16 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 219 points, T:705, killed by a wounded gnome lady 01:19 <@luxidream> !lastgame Stella 01:19 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1614535650.seed.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/nethack/dumplog/1615097249.nh.html 01:20 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:26 [hdf-au] [slshm] Orcranger (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 3979 points, T:2004, killed by an orc zombie 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 543 points, T:1777, killed by a wounded rabid rat 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 88 points, T:303, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 624 points, T:2028, killed by a wounded gnome 01:49 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:29724 01:51 <@deathsushi> GONE, GET LOST 01:52 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 01:53 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1986 02:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1180 points, T:2228, killed by a wounded white unicorn 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1757 points, T:3421, killed by a bolt of cold 02:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 224 points, T:410, killed by a newt zombie 02:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 212 points, T:322, killed by a fox 02:20 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 02:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 82 points, T:692, killed by a kobold 02:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 5 points, T:60, killed by a kobold, while praying 02:24 -!- mwehner has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:24 -!- mwehner has joined #hardfought 02:28 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:37 [hdf-au] [slex] PeachMuffin (Sup Tme Mal Cha), 1285 points, T:1275, killed by a monster (jellu) 03:29 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 03:30 spicycebolla: Dunno. I've only ever read three of Pratchett's books, and by halfway through the third one, I was really tired of his writing style. 03:33 Pratchett's writing is not _unreadably_ bad, like Steinbeck or Tolstoy or E.M. Forster. But it's not particularly good either, IMO. 03:44 who writes in a style suitable to you? 04:02 lol@ steinbeck being "_unreadably_ bad". to each their own though 04:17 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: zhakupov] 04:28 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 04:31 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 04:32 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:36 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 195 points, T:676, killed by an uninjured dwarf 05:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 9 points, T:26, killed by a falling rock 05:08 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 05:09 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 6168 points, T:4504, killed by an owlbear 05:11 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 05:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2048 05:11 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:13 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:14 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 760 points, T:717, killed by a goblin 05:15 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 05:16 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1232 points, T:2401, killed by an uninjured jackal 05:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1672 points, T:2762, fell into a pit 05:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1236 05:33 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:33 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Client Quit] 05:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1595 points, T:2560, killed by a bolt of fire 05:45 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1770 points, T:2718, killed by a magic missile 05:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2922 points, T:2368, killed by a wounded giant spider 06:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1581 points, T:2202, killed by a dagger 06:01 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 2394 points, T:2514, killed by an orc-captain 06:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1164 06:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2313 points, T:1666, killed by an uninjured dwarf 06:29 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 06:32 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 06:33 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 06:33 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:37 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:43 [hdf-eu] [seed] joes (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: random] 06:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 5565 points, T:3400, killed by a gnome 06:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 29 points, T:62, killed by a sewer rat 06:47 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 569 points, T:1048, killed by a giant rat 06:50 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Hum Mal Law), 908 points, T:1458, killed by a bat 06:52 <@nabru> https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/03/were-living-on-a-planet-of-ants/ Read this and for some reason thought "go team a!" 06:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 2689 points, T:2084, killed by a rock mole, while fainted from lack of food 06:57 Go team a! 06:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 137 points, T:305, killed by a grid bug 06:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dro Fem Non), 131 points, T:267, killed by a sewer rat 07:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:23712 07:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Gno Fem Non), 2383 points, T:1442, killed by a hill orc 07:10 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2814 07:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Clk Fem Non), 1165 points, T:918, killed by a clockwork automaton 07:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 122 points, T:387, killed by a sewer rat 07:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 149 points, T:320, killed by a goblin 07:23 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3015 07:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 992 points, T:1284, poisoned by a rotted floating eye corpse 07:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:27000 07:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 2756 points, T:3487, killed by wounded Mr. Akalapi; the shopkeeper 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:28103 07:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed Geryon, on T:57051 07:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 1336 points, T:1454, killed by an air elemental of Hermes 07:37 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 327 points, T:1008, killed by a wounded giant bat 07:42 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 07:44 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 289 points, T:1113, killed by a gas spore's explosion 07:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:57267 08:13 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 08:16 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:31 morning 08:36 cardano is written in haskell 08:36 time to learn haskell i guess 08:37 mornin' 08:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4048 08:43 it's always time to learn haskell stenno 08:43 amateurhour: Message from spicycebolla at 2021-03-06 19:45 EST: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Endgame_(3.0) 08:43 nice 08:43 i realized that with setseed, you can play nethack in a really cool way in a distributed way over the blockchain with smart contracts 08:44 like blockchain plays nethack 08:44 i already figured out how to implement it in etherium blockchain but i kinda wanna do it in cardano instead 08:48 so when using setseed, if i have two instances running the same seed, given the exact same input, will they always have the same state? 08:50 my understanding of nethack rng leads me to 'yes', but i am not sure 08:52 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:52 stenno1: no 08:52 well but why not? 08:52 not if rng is coming from a random device and not a PRNG 08:53 how is that relevant for setseed? 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 445 points, T:1637, killed by an uninjured giant ant 08:53 setseed only guarantees the dungeon generation is the same. rng calls that happen after the player starts moving around aren't subject to it 08:53 i thought with setseed we can derive any seed position from the startseed 08:53 ooh 08:54 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 08:54 -!- joppe has quit [Client Quit] 08:54 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 08:55 i have the seeds for today's run 08:55 they'll go live a min or so before go time 08:55 well thats a pity 08:55 so it cannot be as cool as i thought it could be 08:55 when is it anyhow? 08:55 noon EST 08:56 i guess another solution would just be monkeypatching the PRNG that nethack uses 08:56 stenno1: maybe I'm wrong and infinigon implemented everything, including post-levelgen, as a deterministic PRNG based entirely off the input seed, in which case the same input would produce the same output. you should check with infinigon, but in my understanding that's not how it works 08:56 gotcha, thanks 08:56 yeah infinigon made some stuff work on a stable PRNG, but various things are not preserved across seeds 08:57 dungeon level maps and floor items should be consistent, monster generation is not 08:57 deathdrops are not 09:01 -!- joppe has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:01 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "very blessed fireproof diluted locked partly eaten amulet of magic resistance named mandrakebane", on T:2011 09:02 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:02 i think now that setseed does exactly not what i want 09:02 i'm redoing the menus on hdf-eu and au, setseed will have its own sub-menu (this is already done on hdf-us) 09:03 and now hdf-eu 09:03 :o 09:03 working hdf-au 09:04 srand is called in hacklib.c 09:04 any players doing the setseed run today on the au server that you all know about? 09:04 i don't think so 09:04 think it's all us peeps 09:04 welp, it'll be set and ready to go anyways 09:05 or north american continent at least 09:05 oooh i also need to make the setseed xlogfiles web accessible 09:05 -!- joppe has left #hardfought 09:05 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:05 ye 09:05 aoei these games would definitely fall under vanilla nethack 3.7 for the NHS right? 09:06 oh noes the code already has swagginnzzz fixes in 09:06 \o/ 09:06 sadness 09:06 much yay 09:06 less sad 09:06 no 09:06 it prevents me from doing what i wnat to do 09:06 less no 09:06 ^ more yay 09:07 * K2 throws dogecoin at stenno1 09:07 lol 09:07 :P 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) wished for "thoroughly historic holy very fixed unlabeled very very +5 shield of reflection named let me think about it", on T:2013 09:07 i went away from this whole investing stuff and now am trying to look at it purely from a programming angle 09:07 its real fun 09:08 neat 09:08 but also swagginzzz has ruined it 09:08 so gotta use a version before swagginzzz protection 09:09 -!- joppe has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:09 C'mon, compiler, compile 09:09 what, you need the rng to be abusable? 09:09 <{Demo}2> deterministic 09:10 aosdict: well, i need to guarantee that if you have two instances with the same seed, doing the same input will result in the same state 09:10 yeah 09:11 so i can use smart contracts to provide input to the instance and you can run your own instance locally and listen to SC events and replay it deterministically 09:11 like a distributed robin account 09:12 and in order to play the game you have to send transactions to the smart contract 09:12 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:12 and the contract can run on a testnet so no actual money is involve 09:13 this is step 1 09:13 step 1 is setting up erc-20 tokens, which are mined by ascending on a public server, or reaching certain achievements, and then the contract can only be paid by that specific erc-20 token 09:13 ^ step 2 09:14 idek if that will be even possible but i think it is 09:15 -!- joppe has quit [Client Quit] 09:15 and that is my idea of a blockchain project 09:15 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:16 -!- joppe has quit [Client Quit] 09:16 well it sure sounds interesting 09:17 i am currently learning a lot about it and in the end maybe i will figure out that its not possible like i want it to, or that there is a better way of doing it, but at least then i have learned a lot about blockchains 09:17 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:17 -!- joppe has quit [Client Quit] 09:18 is this making a basic assumption that the public server is not compromised 09:18 <{Demo}2> does anyone know if "excel but for graphs and not tabular data" is a thing? looking for something like excel where it's both a data entry and data manipulation tool meant to be reallllly friendly for nontechnical users 09:18 this makes the assumption that the xlog of the public server can be trusted, yeah 09:19 but at least then i have learned a lot about blockchains <--- stenno1 that could open up some future job prospects 09:19 {Demo}2, Tableau? https://www.tableau.com 09:19 cause then you kind of lose the decentralization aspect of it all, if you have to blindly trust any server owner involved 09:20 aosdict: the centralized aspect of it only concerns the minting of erc-20 coins, anything else is distributed 09:20 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 09:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 09:20 <{Demo}2> not that kind of graph 09:21 ah, I see 09:21 {Demo}2: i looked into it a few days ago but didn't find anything interesting 09:22 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Client Quit] 09:22 {Demo}2: you could investigate what https://github.com/austintgriffith/eth.build does, i aw that yesterday 09:23 saw 09:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 70 points, T:481, killed by a fox 09:25 you have inputs and nodes and edges 09:25 and nodes are functions 09:26 dunno if they programmed it from scratch or which libraries they used 09:26 a few days ago i tried to do a little project in JS but didn't find a good library for abstraction 09:27 maybe you can use https://js.cytoscape.org/ 09:27 i looked into it but i just wanted to make a small project and it seemed to complicated for that 09:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:57690 09:32 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:33 also d3.js of course but i think thats more about visualization itself 09:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Frost Treads, on T:62041 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law), 3034 points, T:3522, killed by a yeti 09:34 <{Demo}2> i'm not looking for something to build something, i'm looking for something that boils down to "its excel but instead of doing shit with a table you do it with what is effectively a big digraph" 09:39 <@ChrisANG> What sorts of things are you trying to do? 09:42 {Demo}2: There are some friendly-ish frontends to graphviz 09:43 <{Demo}2> trying to figure out if such a thing even has a place in existing 09:43 <{Demo}2> its just annoying to see ppl mangle data into a tabular format to work with it when it realllllllly isn't best represented that way 09:46 -!- joppe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:48 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:48 -!- joppe has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48 -!- joes has quit [Client Quit] 09:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:41639 09:50 maybe take a look at this? https://gephi.org/ Gephi is the leading visualization and exploration software for all kinds of graphs and networks. Gephi is open-source and free. 09:50 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:52 -!- joppe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:53 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 09:55 -!- joppe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:58 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 10:01 -!- joppe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2616 10:16 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 10:19 my prediction for how the thing will go later is 10:19 the others will maybe splat a couple of times then nail it 10:19 while I'll be stuck on the valk and be malding 10:20 -!- tsingi has joined #hardfought 10:20 !lastgame shadowrider38 10:20 tsingi: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/nethack/dumplog/1615099247.nh.html 10:21 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 10:21 hm where is antigulp 10:21 amateurhour, bouquet can you guys idle for a bit 10:21 in the terminal size of your choice 10:22 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed shadowrider38's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2773 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law), 2060 points, T:2321, zombified by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a potion 10:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:22391 10:30 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 10:30 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 10:31 !coffee 10:31 * Beholder delivers JonathanHanes a mug of espresso, prayed over by demogorgon at -10 degrees Celsius. 10:31 Cool, it's frozen 10:32 !coffee 10:32 * Beholder tosses luxidream a fifth of Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster, acquired by Athame at 23 degrees Celsius. 10:33 !booze 10:33 * Beholder delivers nabru a pint of liquid courage, distilled by demogorgon at 344 Kelvin. 10:33 hmm 10:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:43069 10:34 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:35 wonder if I still have my copy of hitchhiker's guide 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a concave amulet on an altar, on T:8483 10:43 i appreciate the funny messages 10:43 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 10:43 gotta keep the session alive while you're doing whatever 10:44 has the thing started or are we still hunting for antigulp 10:45 nope 10:46 antigulp is still missing 10:46 we still have an hour though 10:46 can you pull up inventory for a sec amateurhour 10:47 !who 10:47 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] tsingi [nh370] Jilvane [dnh] musicdemon [slex] RohoDragon [slex] hothraxxa [evil] bouquet [evil] | [hdf-eu] zhakupov [nh370] Feya [dnh] amateurhour [seed] Stella [seed] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:54 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a silver crested helmet entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:9256 10:56 when does it start 10:56 1h04m 10:57 that's enough time for luxidream to stream an ascension as a pre-event showing 10:57 then we start 30 sec late 10:57 :P 10:58 I'm going to get some breakfast, hopefully antigulp doesn't show up while I'm afk 10:59 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 10:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 10:59 lol 10:59 hi AntiGulp 11:00 gl everyone 11:00 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 11:00 my timing is impeccable 11:00 Sorry, had a thing. It ends in 20-30 minutes 11:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 91748 points, T:24599, killed by a dog, while fainted from lack of food 11:00 I can start setting up my terminal tho 11:00 sweet 11:00 -!- joppe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:01 Logged in 11:04 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 11:05 dangit 11:06 haha 11:06 you mean 'yay, my plan to summon worked' 11:06 antigulp can you make it less tall 11:06 Speak my name and I shall appear 11:06 ye 11:07 so are we all planning on listening to brain power on repeat? 11:07 How’s this? 11:07 <{Demo}2> my plan is to eat breakfast pastries and maybe watch 11:07 someone should make a new reddit post regarding that 11:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2830 11:08 <{Demo}2> my plan is better than everyone else's 11:08 <{Demo}2> because it involved donuts 11:08 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 11:09 alright, where's the party at :3 11:09 ye it's good 11:10 i saw bouquet playing evilhack but they haven't responded in irc yet 11:10 Yeah bouquet is playing EvilHack 11:11 any sign of reddit guy? 11:11 nope 11:11 just you three I think 11:11 which is fine 11:12 where can i watch? :) 11:12 does bouquet have mail on? 11:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 6326 points, T:2580, killed by a poisonous corpse 11:13 not sure 11:13 they logged off 11:13 tommo you are already following me? 11:13 starts in less than an hour at https://www.twitch.tv/luxidream 11:13 Oh shoot, should we disable mail? 11:13 umm oh! 11:13 leave it on for lulz 11:13 I am 11:13 i would always disable mail out of principle 11:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 47 points, T:146, killed by a kobold 11:13 it might be really disruptive 11:14 imagine having principles 11:14 what about when you need community support 11:14 to cross air 11:14 yeah! 11:14 because you didn't bring enough junk to throw 11:14 y-air! 11:15 do you still need me to be in a game luxi? 11:15 you're good 11:15 no quit livelog 11:15 think I might be bugged 11:15 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 11:16 maybe quits in particular are hidden if under a certain time, regardless of mintc 11:16 (which I have set to 0) 11:16 i think so 11:17 think all scummed games are hidden 11:18 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:21 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3091 11:22 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of smzp, the former Trailblazer, on T:3119 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2270 points, T:3231, killed by a boiling potion 11:23 <@nabru> !lastgame quervo1 11:23 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/quervo1/nethack/dumplog/1615132612.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/q/quervo1/nethack/dumplog/1607288202.nh.html 11:23 Is there a mintc we should have set? 11:24 0 I guess 11:24 !setmintc 0 11:24 AntiGulp: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for antigulp set to 0 11:25 i am so tired, had sunday roast earlier and still food comaing 11:25 plus im playing blindfolded so thats why I will be bad 11:25 also my little brother grabbed the controller 11:25 lol 11:25 lmao 11:25 did ur dog eat your homework too? 11:26 I’ve never played NetHack before; excited for my first run 11:26 haha 11:26 hahaha 11:26 blindfolded younger sibling conduct 11:26 not zero 11:26 is that where you're blindfolded and have to tell your younger sibling what buttons to push 11:26 just issue !setmintc 11:26 !setmintc 11:26 amateurhour: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for amateurhour removed. 11:27 !setmintc 11:27 nabru: No min turncount for nabru 11:27 !setmintc 11:27 AntiGulp: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for antigulp removed. 11:27 so it it just hdf-us where this is being played today? 11:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:3507 11:28 absolutely not 11:28 I’m on hdf-us 11:28 amateurhour is eu 11:28 I get glorious 14 ping to hdf-eu 11:28 oh? we finally got some eu players? 11:28 alrighty 11:28 wait what do you mean finally 11:28 orite amateurhour is EU duh 11:28 stenno and aoei both played eu didn't they? 11:29 earlier on i said to k2 sometihng like "oh i think its just us/north america peeps this time" 11:29 amateurhour i was told earlier today's lil contest it was just north american players 11:29 ah lol 11:29 even tho i knew you were playing 11:29 aoei is like that 11:29 K2: ur fault for listening to me 11:29 if in doubt blame aosdict 11:29 blue falcon 11:29 aosdict: I can't believe you caused this kerfuffle 11:29 bouquet where are you :( 11:29 :( 11:31 * AntiGulp reads a scroll of create bouquet 11:31 <@luxidream> 🥀 11:32 that would be a fun addition to splicehack 11:32 creates flowers 11:32 for no gameplay effect? 11:32 you can give them to your quest leader to charm them into letting you into the quest early 11:32 that sounds like splice 11:32 e z 11:32 for no gameplay effect works too 11:32 :P 11:33 junethack trophy: collect every type of flower 11:34 create an elaborate relationship building system 11:34 you can seduce foocubi with flowers! 11:34 it has no gameplay effect whatsoever, just changes chat messages 11:34 See, now halfheartedly implementing a massive relationship system sounds like Splice 11:34 befriend the captain of the watch and convince them to look the other way 11:34 It’s just like what I did with cooking and dialogue 11:34 befriend your quest nemesis 11:35 Give *clap* Master *clap* Kaen *clap* flowers 11:35 hahaha 11:35 :D 11:35 hand/mind nethack could be fun 11:35 never giving him flowers 11:35 dude decked me for like 70 dmg yesterday 11:35 should not be in vanilla 11:35 just dodge bro lolol 11:35 i think their max in one round is like 116 or something? 11:36 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 11:36 I beat him in melee during my first ascension. It was one of the best moments of my life 11:36 might be less than that 11:36 i ended up using the classic black dragon polyself to beat him 11:36 after getting killed on 2 different games 11:37 yeah kaen is pretty whack in vanilla 11:37 so he does 16d2x2 +1d4 + clerical spell 11:37 how does that get out 112 11:37 clerical can be geyser 11:37 ouchies 11:38 which is 8d6 11:38 ok that makes sense 11:39 I usually try to sleep him. It rarely works. 11:39 my usual strat is to boulder fort immediately then zap sleep 11:39 but sometimes they're in a trance or whatever and just won't wake up 11:40 so stairs boulder fort doesn't quite work out 11:40 [hdf-us] [slex] Thomas (musicdemon) (Wan Ele Mal Law) killed Elif, on T:30544 11:40 an attack wand should get him out of meditation 11:40 yeah but you gotta leave the stairs to get in line with them sometimes 11:40 so they still get a hit in 11:41 which can be brutal if your max health is like 80 11:41 save yourself a cursed invis pot 11:41 or just do orcus first lol 11:41 I swear I had a game where cursed invis didn't work 11:41 I remember the first time I ever got to the quest as a kid. I got to Master Kaen somehow, without magic resistance or reflection. 11:41 from within the boulder fort 11:41 I hit him once 11:41 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 11:41 rip 11:41 [hdf-us] [slex] Thomas (musicdemon) (Wan Ele Mal Law) killed the Kisuke, on T:30559 11:41 Then he decided to show me what was what 11:41 F 11:41 ouch 11:41 rip 11:41 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 11:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 11:41 "Who's your daddy??" 11:42 rip 11:42 rip 11:42 I’m pretty sure it was a one turn kill lol. Lil’ me was very confused 11:42 rip 11:42 silly beholderbot 11:42 it's not race time yet? 11:42 grip 11:42 18 mins spicycebolla 11:42 18 minutes 11:42 >:[ 11:42 thanks for the link to the wiki btw 11:43 i should go live 11:43 but bouquet is MIA 11:43 even though they were just here playing evil 11:43 !whereis bouquet 11:43 nabru: bouquet is not playing. 11:43 maybe they're jus gettin snax 11:43 yeah it's fun when there's hiddenish pages like that 11:43 they're loading up on gamer fuel 11:44 luxidream stand-up when 11:44 give us a pep talk on stream 11:44 gotta do that thing in movies where they awkwardly work the crowd while the lead act is mia 11:45 QUICK, someone needs to go tell the lead act to BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES! 11:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2092 11:45 if they don't talk in irc in the next ten minutes I guess 11:45 show them that cherished thing from their childhood! 11:45 seeds are ready to go 11:46 thanks K2 11:46 <3 11:46 Oh, right. How are we inputting seeds? 11:46 looking forward to the first seed 'freeactionisbad' 11:46 (Also thanks K2!) 11:46 players will be able to view them from the setseed submenu about 1 min before go time 11:46 heh 11:46 there's a new seed selection menu 11:46 idk how it works but I imagine we just press the seed? 11:46 or do we have to add them manually to our rc files 11:46 copy and paste 11:46 add manually to cfg 11:46 urgh 11:46 baby steps 11:47 I pay good money for my calories, in the form of food 11:47 in the setseed submenu you'll see this -- x) Preset seeds listing 11:47 What’s the config format? 11:47 you're gonna make me burn a fraction of a calorie doing this? 11:47 I'll write you an invoice 11:47 currently the menu is diabled, i'll enable it right before start 11:47 you better pay it 11:47 if K2 preserved the formatting, paste directly and uncomment as necessary 11:47 i didnt 11:47 not enough room 11:47 >:| 11:47 too many seeds 11:47 i have to format everything for 80x24 terminal size 11:48 I guess I can also provide pastebin with correct formatting? 11:48 OPTIONS=seed= 11:48 ^ format 11:48 or yeah it doesn't take too long to type that I guess 11:48 i tried to do silly stuff with seeds and Beholder but it seems that introspective and aoei were too smart 11:48 players could have OPTIONS=seed= in their cfg already 11:48 also python is not php 11:49 Trying to inject SQL with beholder? 11:49 just plugin new seed, save, go 11:49 not sql but a few other things 11:49 ANSI term and some characters that would make parsing livelog and xlog difficult 11:49 https://xkcd.com/327/ 11:50 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Quit: spicycebolla] 11:50 !rng '; DROP TABLE players; | '; DROP DATABASE beholder; 11:50 aosdict: '; DROP TABLE players; 11:50 beholder doesn't have a database in the first place 11:50 it has mintc and stuff 11:50 bingo 11:50 well I dunno where bouquet is 11:50 but I'm starting the stream 11:51 I take it we should keep IRC open? 11:51 I will be 11:51 sure 11:51 yeah i dont see why not 11:51 IRC could spoil seeds 11:51 ^ 11:51 they are all released at the same time 11:51 don't spoil anything then, but I want to check the luckstone if I get catacombs :P 11:51 i mean levels 11:52 i dont think that will livelog for setseed 11:52 what 11:52 well but we might talk about it here 11:52 luckstone mines 11:52 and whats stopping a spectator from pvt messaging you? :) 11:52 you can be connected to irc without being in a channel 11:53 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 11:53 this whole content is leaning a bit on players being honest :) 11:53 *contest 11:53 well lets assume its not willfully done 11:53 nethack players are a good bunch 11:53 ^ 11:53 the h in amateurhour stands for honest 11:53 -!- joppe has joined #hardfought 11:53 The “A” in AntiGulp stands for “Awfully honest" 11:54 this is not about _trying_ to cheat lol 11:54 if u see anythin, jus concuss urself 11:54 the a in amateurhour stands for asshole 11:54 t laptop < 11:54 :P 11:54 yeah you could be playing at one computer and have an elite crack team of analysts in the room with you watching the opponents' games to give you info 11:54 ouch :P 11:54 i kid i kid 11:54 luxidream: still not live 11:55 I’m going to run to the bathroom, but then I should be good to go. 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law), 8552 points, T:6340, poisoned by a jumping spider 11:55 yeah where's this pep talk 11:55 !lastgame hothraxxa 11:55 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/evilhack/dumplog/1615130742.evil.html 11:55 t minus 4 min 30ish seconds 11:55 what's at noon? o.o 11:56 twitch.tv/luxidream 11:56 cool game B) 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 4240 points, T:3469, killed by a blast of frost 11:57 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:58 I’m back, and I’m ready. 11:58 * AntiGulp crosses fingers for bouquet 11:58 good luck all 11:58 well luxidream dropped :P 11:58 !lotg everyone 11:58 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, everyone! 11:58 "Tim, I was born ready." "Yes, Mike, I appreciate that, but are you _at the current moment_ ready?" 11:59 -!- joppe_ has joined #hardfought 11:59 seeds are available... now 11:59 Good luck amateurhour! 11:59 wooo look at that formatting lol 12:00 Can we start? 12:00 gogogo 12:00 yup its noon est 12:00 it has started 12:00 already 12:00 go. 12:01 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: pewdywypie] 12:01 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: pewdywypie] 12:01 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Che Vam Mal Law), 71490 points, T:12371, killed by a monster (mumak) 12:01 part of your speedrun prowess is how fast you can edit your cfg 12:01 lol 12:01 -!- joppe has quit [Quit: Simple IRC: The quit option.] 12:02 -!- joppe_ is now known as joes 12:03 gunna throw this on the living room TV and have lunch! haha 12:05 <@nabru> Watching it on TV, but not very readable since the TV is small 12:05 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/818167373848641597/20210307_140327.jpg 12:05 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:06 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 12:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 12:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 16933 points, T:4921, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:07 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1440 points, T:1351, rt[0:05:58], wc[0:05:59], killed by an uninjured kitten 12:07 <@nabru> rip 12:07 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: amigarahorror] 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Acolyte, on T:3192 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 407 points, T:3221, killed by an uninjured fox, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:08 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law), 94263 points, T:9954, poisoned by a rotted black wasp corpse 12:09 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2263, rt[0:08:38] 12:09 brb 12:10 oh snap im missing it 12:15 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2645, rt[0:08:06] 12:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:6169 12:17 -!- joes has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 12:17 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Gan Vgo Mal Law), 45 points, T:170, killed by life drainage 12:17 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 12:17 -!- tromix has quit [*.net *.split] 12:17 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [*.net *.split] 12:17 -!- flgr has quit [*.net *.split] 12:17 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3377, rt[0:10:09] 12:18 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 12:19 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 12:19 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #hardfought 12:19 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:20 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4698, rt[0:19:42] 12:21 -!- zhakupov has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:23 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4215 points, T:4191, [0:15:49], killed by a wounded leocrotta 12:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: tonechamp] 12:25 -!- ThaEwat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3466 12:26 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law), 439 points, T:780, rt[0:02:24], wc[0:02:25], killed by an uninjured garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:26 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: wardenofyendor] 12:27 bouquet: you can still join the race 12:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] Arbalist (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 405 points, T:1858, killed by an uninjured giant rat 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2748 points, T:3684, killed by wounded Ms. Akranes; the shopkeeper 12:30 Bitch! 12:30 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1346, rt[0:03:54] 12:31 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:1548, rt[0:04:15] 12:31 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Ast Vam Mal Law), 3581 points, T:739, quit 12:31 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 13658 points, T:6226, rt[0:30:11], wc[0:30:12], killed by a wounded troll 12:31 fuk 12:31 <@nabru> rip 12:31 F 12:31 AntiGulp: rip 12:31 No pickaxes ANYWHERE 12:32 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: tonechamp] 12:32 AntiGulp: gogogogo 12:35 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1046, rt[0:03:17] 12:36 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 896 points, T:1301, rt[0:04:45], wc[0:04:46], killed by a wounded giant spider 12:37 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: reconnoiterer] 12:40 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Sto Vam Mal Law), 8349 points, T:301, killed by a monster (invisible sniper) 12:41 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1433, rt[0:04:25] 12:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 12:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 12:43 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:3873, rt[0:17:06] 12:44 soko get 12:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4122, rt[0:18:14] 12:47 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 12:47 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:47 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 12:47 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4725, rt[0:21:15] 12:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8718 points, T:4728, [0:21:21], quit 12:48 [hdf-us] [seed] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: NabruRocks] 12:48 gg 12:48 gg 12:48 gg amateurhour! 12:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: reconnoiterer] 12:48 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2062 points, T:3524, rt[0:11:22], wc[0:11:23], quit 12:49 I am not doing so hot 12:49 gogogo 12:49 still all open 12:49 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: uboapog] 12:52 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 990 points, T:863, [0:03:08], killed by an uninjured giant ant, while praying 12:53 Go team a 12:53 go team a! 12:53 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: fasterkaen] 12:53 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 12:55 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 491 points, T:782, rt[0:02:25], wc[0:02:26], killed by a slightly wounded kitten 12:56 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: wishforeota] 12:56 daaaaaaaamn why is Umbire not here :( 12:57 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1969, rt[0:08:12] 12:57 !summon Umbire 12:58 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:58 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2376, rt[0:09:28] 12:58 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 13:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:26084 13:00 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 626 points, T:1300, rt[0:04:38], wc[0:04:39], killed by a wounded dwarf lord 13:01 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: joinootc] 13:02 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Cav Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4280, rt[0:15:47] 13:03 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:05 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 551 points, T:1819, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:06 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1122, rt[0:04:34] 13:06 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:19578, rt[4:09:21] 13:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:26190 13:09 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2986 points, T:1412, rt[0:07:37], wc[0:07:38], killed by an uninjured leocrotta 13:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6789 13:10 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: tooledbugle] 13:10 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:11 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:4399, rt[0:22:41] 13:11 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 9643 points, T:4399, [0:22:46], quit 13:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:54841 13:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "blessed marker", on T:20238, rt[4:14:48] 13:13 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: triraidshadowlegends] 13:14 y u make seed names so long luxidream2 13:14 ytho 13:16 because Luxidream is very fleecy <3 13:16 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:20746, rt[4:19:15] 13:16 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:20747, rt[4:19:23] 13:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3317 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2746 points, T:1540, killed by a wounded manes 13:19 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1683, rt[0:09:08] 13:19 K2: This seed, RNG init? 13:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7302, rt[0:33:07] 13:20 nice Adeon 13:20 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 3959 points, T:1822, rt[0:10:40], wc[0:10:41], killed by a wounded vampire lord 13:20 :(((( 13:20 I am the salt 13:21 forever 13:21 RIP 13:21 F 13:21 rip 13:21 don't worry about that 13:21 <{Demo}2> who is winning? 13:21 Uh huh 13:21 Uhhhhh 13:22 „rt“ is probably Realtime 13:22 Definitely me 13:22 But what is „wc“? 13:22 Don’t check the stream 13:22 APic, wallclock I assume 13:22 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: extendedmagic] 13:22 wallclock, yeah 13:22 ic 13:22 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1212, rt[0:08:47] 13:22 And what is the Difference? 13:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Bar Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8636 13:25 APic: realtime is the time the session was played, so the pauses are not considered 13:25 ic, thanks 13:25 APic: wallclock time is literally the time the run ended minus the time the run started 13:26 !tell Umbire thank you for making that great nethackwiki post, I added my two cents ;) really don't get why you got such a weird reaction, as your post was pretty good and informative in my eyes 13:26 Umbire shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, LarienTelrunya. 13:27 <{Demo}2> hey amy can u help me dewizardmode my slex save? 13:27 {Demo}2: should be a certain area where you have lots of 00's and 01's; change a particular 01 to 00 13:27 <{Demo}2> I made a slex variant using a sex slave and it needs to be dewizardmoded 13:28 <{Demo}2> slex save* 13:28 what? you added "sex slave" as a monster? gíbe stats pl0x :D 13:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 9882 points, T:8468, [0:40:47], killed by a nearly deceased mumak 13:28 <{Demo}2> wait Amy though you are good at compiling nethack on windows. what's it mean when obj.tag fails? 13:29 uhh no idea? screenshot? 13:29 also I don't know what you changed 13:29 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:29 <{Demo}2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/817447341048725616/unknown.png 13:29 <{Demo}2> unchanged 343 13:30 wtf 13:30 <{Demo}2> trying to dewizardmode a save so I can offer to help mbm 13:30 did you run the setup script? 13:30 <{Demo}2> yes 13:30 uhh... don't remember seeing that particular error 13:31 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3214, rt[0:17:34] 13:31 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 176 points, T:712, [0:02:01], killed by a wand 13:31 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:31 …3 polymorph traps on this level stepped on so far 13:31 <{Demo}2> ok, thanks anyway 13:31 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Spa Vam Mal Law), 1102 points, T:1511, killed by a monster (fire giant) 13:31 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1871 13:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Bar Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9793 13:33 AntiGulp: lol thats crazy 13:33 …four 13:33 jesus 13:33 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Mal Law), 5549 points, T:1796, rt[0:11:22], wc[0:11:43], killed by a nearly deceased gnome king 13:33 … 13:33 F 13:34 :/ 13:34 :( 13:34 pepperoni 13:34 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: cursedapple] 13:36 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4323, rt[0:22:45] 13:37 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1477, rt[0:06:01] 13:37 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:40 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 1454 points, T:926, rt[0:05:17], wc[0:05:18], killed by a wounded giant beetle, while praying 13:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Kni Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1985, rt[0:08:53] 13:40 :( 13:40 Maybe I should have done what amateurhour did and not practiced 13:40 lmao 13:41 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: 2Acatacombseed] 13:43 -!- ThaEwat has joined #hardfought 13:46 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 1441 points, T:795, [0:04:15], killed by a wounded air elemental 13:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Bar Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:11327 13:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:47 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: rnz] 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1302 points, T:2791, killed by a bear trap 13:49 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:1073 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1096 13:51 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1088, rt[0:04:20] 13:53 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 2027 points, T:1624, rt[0:06:42], wc[0:06:43], killed by an uninjured dwarf, while praying 13:53 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Kni Hum Mal Law), 10618 points, T:3969, rt[0:22:04], wc[0:22:05], killed by an uninjured orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:54 -!- tsingi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:55 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: flayerzombie] 13:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 316 points, T:740, [0:02:33], killed by a slightly wounded giant mimic 13:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Croesus, on T:43541 13:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:21427, rt[5:01:02] 13:59 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8499, rt[0:46:03] 13:59 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 18741 points, T:8500, [0:46:08], quit 13:59 <{Demo}2> pro tier 13:59 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:21436, rt[5:02:29] 13:59 gg amateurhour 14:00 congrats amateurhour! 14:00 great monk performance 14:00 gg amateurhour! 14:00 congrats! 14:00 gg amateurhour! 14:00 Is that all three? 14:00 woooooooo 14:00 yeah 14:00 Congrats! 14:01 does that mean amateurhour won the race? 14:01 * AntiGulp glances at her zero completed runs 14:01 yes 14:01 !who 14:01 JonathanHanes: [hdf-us] Hrnn [nh370] Jilvane [dnh] KrO2 [dnh] ZlojSerge [nh4] musicdemon [slex] beastly [slex] bouquet [evil] Tommo [seed] Adeon [seed] | [hdf-eu] lacca [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:02 congratulations amateurhour ♥ may I offer to send you my leather peep-toes as a prize? 14:02 ew 14:02 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1642, rt[0:05:44] 14:02 AntiGulp: you had very bad luck with the poly traps 14:02 Yeah that was something lmao 14:03 Seriously, congrats amateurhour :) 14:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:21495, rt[5:06:20] 14:04 for the valkyrie I died like 3x very rapidly and was angry and frustrated lol 14:04 thought I'd be stuck as a valk forever 14:05 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 569756 points, T:21513, rt[5:08:15], wc[4 days, 23:05:36], killed by the slightly wounded high priestess of Tyr (with the Amulet) 14:05 woop woop 14:06 rip 14:06 good job everyone involved for the stream 14:06 luxidream2: sorry for suggesting the adeon thing, that was inconsiderate 14:06 Legit, you’re super lucky you died before trying the first seed. I played all the way from mine’s end to sokoban, and ZERO pickaxes and wands of digging spawned. It was the wine cellar level, so it couldn’t be completed without one either. 14:06 I wasted the first 30 minutes on it. 14:06 oh wow, that sounds awful 14:07 AntiGulp: F 14:07 stupid poly traps 14:07 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:08 I kind of want to see a match where you must keep playing the same seed until you accomplish whatever goal 14:08 didn't you have a red dragon at some point 14:08 Orange dragon, yup 14:08 amateurhour: also what was that yenooghu thing lol 14:08 had a very long day yesterday and overslept 14:08 like, here are three seeds, one for each role you're playing 14:08 mines polytraps are scary 14:08 amateurhour: you almost angered him by throwing the luckstone at him? wtf 14:08 Wait, yeenoghu showed up? 14:09 was that for the memes or was that an accident 14:09 a-hour did same-race sac 14:09 on accident 14:09 from same race sac 14:09 lol 14:09 that was hilarious 14:09 at least i think it was on accident idk 14:09 Also RIP bouquet 14:09 yea 14:09 did bouquet show up later in irc 14:09 hahaha 14:09 amateurhour: I saw yuo got your favourite soko level repeatedly 14:09 let me introduce you to a concept called 14:09 bouquet (Hac Hum Mal Cha), 398294 points, T:4929, forfeited 14:09 throwing luckstones for content 14:10 you kicked it at him 14:10 "this luckstone misses Yeenoghu" lmao 14:10 the* 14:10 now THAT's lucky. 14:10 why did you even drag him down there 14:10 sometimes you know a stream is dragging on a bit, maybe there's not much going on 14:10 so you think hey 14:10 let's bring yeenoghu along 14:10 lmao 14:10 let's spice up this way too long orc barb attempt 14:11 luxidream2: bouquet | had a very long day yesterday and overslept 14:11 that ok 14:11 you're welcome to join the next one :) 14:11 amateurhour: i mean why play orc if you're not gonna eat your own people and summon ajor demons 14:11 thanks, I'll actually put it in a calendar next time. 14:11 <{Demo}2> i read forfeited as "fortified" 14:12 haha like halfway through the orc barb I was like 'idk what im doing' 14:12 it was so scuffed 14:12 luxidream2: sorry for suggesting that you should continue commenting adeons run, i got carried away and that was inconsiderate 14:12 rip antigulp tho 14:12 Don’t look at me 14:12 Leave me to my shame corner 14:12 (I’m just kidding. That was super fun!) 14:12 that was really bad luck on that minesend 14:12 <{Demo}2> that first seed sounds horrible 14:12 I've never seen one that bad 14:13 Oh god that mines end was insane 14:13 4/5 polymorph traps 14:13 That was the point where I almost gave up 14:13 that was nuts yea 14:13 literally never seen that in my entire life 14:13 luxidream2: that is why I think someone should try a race where you play the same seed until accomplishing the goal with it 14:13 omg wait 14:13 because they weren't playing the same seed at that point 14:13 My friend just texted me 14:13 -!- bhaak has joined #hardfought 14:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v bhaak] by ChanServ 14:13 looking at src/zap.c, lines 760+, doesn't that code mean that a bagged corpse can't revive if in boh? not that I understand wtf the code actually does and if it's even used :D 14:13 antigulp the chameleon 14:14 “Well, that was more intenset than I thought it would be. Was that you hitting four polymorph traps?” 14:14 so really what's the difference between this and antigulp running a totally separate game, where the dungeon gen was against her? 14:14 non-seeded 14:14 both players will run into the same seeds 14:14 To be fair, amateurhour was also playing a lot better/faster, from what little I saw over livelogging 14:14 amateurhour had an early death on the bad seed 14:14 aosdict: it might be strategy to quit at some point 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:12318 14:14 a lucky escape 14:14 lmao 14:14 yeah but if amateurhour dies early and AntiGulp doesn't, and AntiGulp's seed is inferior, she gets punished for that 14:14 W - a blessed +5 dwarvish roundshield (being worn) 14:15 <{Demo}2> yeah i would seed lock roles 14:15 <{Demo}2> if doing that again 14:15 the alternative is the metastrategies that arise 14:15 when doing one seed over and over 14:15 I dislike that 14:15 antigulp had rotten rng and amateurhour had some lucky breaks, simple as that 14:15 the monk run was very good 14:15 yeah, I got lucky 14:15 yeah and the rng only fixes some things 14:15 if you pursue those strategies, you're trading time for information 14:15 in setseed 14:15 23 minutes 14:15 i can quit in a large shop and identify everything 14:16 waste 2 minutes 14:16 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3458, rt[0:19:42] 14:16 especially if the goal is ascension, i think it devalues it somewhat 14:16 then make a setseed build with an option that doesn't allow end of game identification then 14:16 bah. just set the state in wizmode and get the dev team to fix the save 14:17 you can still remember stuff you found or learnt about the seed aosdict 14:17 yes and that's fine 14:17 it becomes a very different kind of meta 14:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15715 14:17 I don't think seeded runs in other roguelikes typically have one player and another player competing on totally different seeds because one blew up early? 14:18 i don't actually know how other roguelikes typically do this 14:18 what other roguelikes do seeded races 14:18 but if anyone knows about that it would be interesting information 14:18 Hades is a roguelite that does seeded races, but RNG diverges very quickly so it barely matters 14:19 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3968, rt[0:22:22] 14:19 dcss does seeded run challenges doesn't it? 14:19 there's always gonna be some divergence due to player 14:19 ^ 14:19 Luck is part of the game! 14:21 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1325, rt[0:13:05] 14:22 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Nec Vam Mal Law), 6416 points, T:2593, killed by a shotgun shell 14:22 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 14:23 watching it back now, looking forward to cringing at the dumb stuff I do haha 14:23 hoping the reaction to some of it is epic 14:23 amateurhour: we went crazy when you almost died to sleep ray 14:24 and then prayed at like 4 health 14:24 stennoed: orctown 14:24 that was freaking awful lol 14:24 amateurhoured: 2a 14:24 oh man, I have to watch this back 14:24 antigulped: polytraps 14:24 i've had bad times with deep mines polytraps but nothing that comes close to antigulp polytrap hell 14:24 Btw luxidream, my friend who was watching said you and Jon did fantastic commentary. He’s a more casual NetHack player, and he said he was super into the strategy discussion. 14:25 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:25 who's Jon 14:25 luxi and jon are pro 14:25 jonathanhanes 14:25 ah 14:26 Adeon: can you ping me when you start streaming? 14:26 also thanks :) 14:26 you mean like in general? 14:26 sure 14:26 I think it works a lot better with two people 14:26 i kinda wanna try commentating stuff like that but idk if i would know what to say lol 14:26 Adeon: oh i thought you were to stream later 14:26 then i misread 14:27 not todya 14:27 gotcha 14:27 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (humans), on T:2252, rt[0:19:40] 14:27 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 6013 points, T:2252, rt[0:19:40], wc[14:08:31], killed by a scroll of genocide 14:27 idk aoei you just talk about random stuff 14:28 and then people are entertained (?) 14:28 seems fine 14:28 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 14:28 hahaha I forgot what floor the oracle was 14:28 it's the one before sokoban 4head 14:29 it would have been funny if you went deeper to find it xD 14:30 -!- JonathanHanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2787 14:31 I messed up flipped 2a twice 14:32 how much pain was your brain suffering 14:32 quite a lot 14:33 I was wondering what was taking so long in Sokoban 14:33 (she says, only having even seen sokoban once today lol) 14:33 i think the fastest i've done soko is 10ish minutes 14:34 lux can apparently do it in 5 14:34 i had to leave to get a pickaxe but I got lucky in finding one 14:34 I got a 4:55 sokoban once 14:34 pog 14:34 it's insanely hard to get sub 5 14:35 yeah there's gotta be a hard limit somewhere on how fast it's actaully possible to do sokoban 14:35 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5955, rt[0:38:31] 14:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 852 points, T:1196, killed by an uninjured wererat 14:36 i suppose that sokosolver stuff you were talking about can help there with giving more efficient sequences of moves 14:36 or somethinbg 14:36 it doesn't help 14:37 sokosolvers have to do sokoban backwards 14:37 you start at the wrong stairs, and have to fall through a hole and can land literally anywhere in the next puzzle 14:37 luxidream was talking about a diff kind of sokosolver i think 14:37 on stream 14:37 oh 14:37 not the slex thing lol 14:37 :D 14:38 there exist solvers for sokoban levels 14:38 but even with a really optimal solution 14:38 you're gonna get interrupted by monsters and shit 14:38 they have slightly better solutions than the ones currently on the wiki 14:38 from what I've seen 14:38 the difference should be only a few seconds 14:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 103 points, T:416, killed by an uninjured fox 14:39 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2797 points, T:1293, [0:10:57], killed by a blast of frost 14:40 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 14:40 lol worried about the number of seeds because I kept splatting 14:40 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 14:40 YANI: Piercers can attack from adjacent spaces, not just your own. After falling, they can't attack (or can with a weak claw attack), during which they'll try to pathfind to a wall in order to climb back up on the ceiling, so when they reach a wall they become able to use their dropping attack again. 14:41 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law), 113 points, T:238, rt[0:01:18], wc[0:01:19], killed by a heavily wounded small mimic 14:41 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 14:41 Why is this so funny to watch back 14:42 lol yeah 14:42 i really enjoyed the watching back part when i raced stenno and lux 14:42 oh that soko zoo that was brutal 14:42 so i totally get it 14:42 I’m at the part where amateurhour is searching for the Oracle and I’m searching for a pickaxe 14:42 What a beautiful mess 14:43 haha 14:43 lol! 14:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 175 points, T:770, killed by an uninjured bat 14:44 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 14:45 there are always epic moments 14:49 i had horrible flashbacks when Yeeno appeared in amateurhour's game, before I realised it was peaceful summon 14:49 haha 14:49 I started feeling really tired in that game and was playing pretty braindead lol 14:49 I don't think I did anything that made sense 14:49 I even said out loud like 'what am i doing' 14:50 just autopilot 14:50 well the monk run was tight that's for sure 14:51 i missed some of the valk stuff cuz i joined the stream a lil late 14:52 I didn’t realize how exhausting it would be. I def feel drained 14:52 yea 14:52 yeah me too 14:53 speedrunning is tiring in general but doing it for a race ups the ante and mental cost etc for sure 14:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:44556 14:54 I did the smooth brain solutions :) 14:54 you actaully did the harder soko4a solution 14:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:56 there was a mistake you made with one of the flipped soko2a levels 14:56 i recognised it well 14:56 because i've done the saem many times 14:56 yeah, I messed up both flipped 2a I did 14:56 did the nonflipped one alright 14:57 like the thing hwere you forget to move one boulder back to that corner to replace the one you moved 14:57 done that so many times lol 14:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:10156, rt[1:01:15] 14:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 350 points, T:1808, killed by an uninjured newt, while praying 14:59 i got lost in flipped mines end for a bit 14:59 i wonder what the most common errors are for each soko level 14:59 Soko 2a is just one giant error 14:59 LOL 15:00 idk i like it 15:00 it has diagonal patterns 15:00 soko 2b is blockish and meh 15:00 4a has to be accidentally getting a boulder stuck in the bottom room 15:00 oh yeah i've done that a bunch of times too 15:00 another one i do is end up with three boulders adjacent on one of the middle rooms 15:00 so i have to break the middle one 15:01 like three adjacent against wall 15:02 this is why it's important to never rely on your brain to do Soko :P 15:02 I'd be happier with more puzzles than flipped puzzles for sure 15:02 this is why I just skip sokoban if I can 15:02 as long as there are luck penalties for mistakes, one must mindlessly follow written instructions 15:02 amateurhour: I like that idea in theory, but in practiec I find it UnNetHack sokoban frustrating 15:02 <@luxidream> pushing a boulder to the bottom left of 3b is very easy and forces a boulder break 15:02 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/818212121400705044/unknown.png 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a barbed devil, on T:15711 15:03 <@luxidream> the reason unnethack soko is so frustrating is several of them have exactly the number of boulders necessary 15:03 Oh yup, definitely done that in 3b 15:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 249 points, T:259, killed by an uninjured coyote, while sleeping 15:03 yep same 15:03 good point lux 15:04 and fourk's newsokos give you some spare boulders for small errors? 15:04 think so, not sure if fourk penalizes cheating still though 15:04 If only coding a sokoban generator that generated interesting levels wasn’t so hard 15:04 yea lux, they're hard puzzles, which is cool if i feel like the challenge, but when I mess up, trying to figure out how to salvage soko is hard enough in itself even with cheats 15:04 so i end up getting really demoralised by unnethack sokoban 15:05 I’m still going to add tetris-sokoban to splice one day 15:05 it’s coming 15:05 but i also don't want to spoil cuz part of the appeal of unnethack sokoban is i don't have everything muscle-memorised already 15:05 all clears are already dumb in tetris 15:05 when that happens I will be humming the famous tune 15:05 i think there are still luck penalties in fourk, but if you're hallucinating when you cheat, it doesn't count 15:05 please don't make me do them in nethack 15:05 and oracle has 3 hallu pots 15:06 also there are no peacefuls in fourk soko, they're forced hostile 15:06 i think fiq goes a step further and just doesn't have monster gen? 15:06 yeah so you can just paste the solution in that case lol 15:06 regretting picking orc barb instead of arc now 15:06 sounded so hype 15:07 I like the no monster gen in soko. Monsters are just annoying to deal with now, but for beginners they can be impossible 15:07 amateurhour: yeah :( 15:07 the variety of soko fixes out there indicates soko needs fixing in vanilla ;) 15:07 spicycebolla: yes 15:07 i was at the role select screen for ages torn 15:07 i saw lol 15:07 you were mulling it over 15:07 torn between obarb and wut? 15:07 I started dtrying my other roles out of frustration lmao 15:09 gnome arc 15:09 you should have done it 15:09 makes sense, why keep doing a thing that's infuriating 15:10 are there any new artifact wishing caveats since 3.4.3 15:11 <@luxidream> All QA can be stolen 15:11 Adeon: Watch out for WoY artifact theft. Can steal other role’s quest artifacts as well. 15:11 <@luxidream> Some QA only give MR when worn or wielded 15:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1468 15:11 <@luxidream> Like som, eota 15:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:58231 15:12 I got the castle wand but I have not seen identify in this game 15:12 wow 15:13 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Cyb Dev Mal Law), 5394 points, T:325, killed by a monster (hallucinogen-distorted Mr. Mashevka, the shopkeeper) 15:14 !tell K2 uhh, it seems that musicdemon on hdf-us was playing an old slex 2.66 savegame that was still around, but crashed; can you check whether there's a recent core dump for that, and try to run the recover utility if there's something to recover? :) sorry! 15:14 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 15:15 there's no saving a slex game, it's already cursed :) 15:17 !seen moon-child 15:18 dammit, where's Elronnd when you need him 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 738 points, T:3022, killed by an uninjured hobbit 15:20 <{Demo}2> making up scientology or whatever 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "tin tin tin", on T:3505 15:20 u - a cursed slex save file (2:-1) 15:21 <{Demo}2> heavily cursed 15:21 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:12747, rt[1:24:36] 15:21 Amy I ascended the superior version of slex (slashTHEM) recently 15:21 are you proud of me 15:21 <{Demo}2> if you knew more about slex you could make better jokes about it 15:21 amateurhour: congraturation, a winner is you :P now ascend the actual slex please 15:22 <{Demo}2> taiwan is the real slex 15:23 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed greased Master Key of Thievery", on T:12755, rt[1:26:34] 15:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58333 15:23 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:12767, rt[1:27:01] 15:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:58335 15:24 I still don't have unicorn horn 15:24 I wasn't listening to the stream or I'd have realised how good arc would have been 15:24 pepehands 15:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:58341 15:26 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:13130, rt[1:29:27] 15:27 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Roc Ill Mal Law), 219 points, T:416, killed by a monster (spacewars fighter) 15:28 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 5466 points, T:2176, [0:16:08], quit 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:4069 15:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:13323, rt[1:32:06] 15:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dro Fem Non), 38 points, T:200, killed by a jackal 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 3553 points, T:4238, killed by an uninjured silver dragon 15:35 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:13574, rt[1:38:38] 15:35 does nurse dancing still work? 15:36 Yes 15:37 how far are you in now AntiGulp? 15:37 I’m going on a walk lmao. I’ll watch more later 15:37 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 15:37 have a lovely walk 15:39 Adeon: keep in mind that unihorn doesn't restore attributes anyore 15:39 stats are useless anyway 15:40 rest_on_space doesn't work ;-; 15:40 do you have safe_wait on? 15:40 that helped 15:44 kaen is scared by scare monster now? 15:45 <@luxidream> nop 15:45 <@luxidream> fight 15:45 <{Demo}2> kaen is mEAn 15:45 Kaen is just as powerful an opponent in 3.6.0 as he is in previous versions, but scrolls of scare monster now affect him. 15:45 is the wiki LYING 15:45 reverted in 3.7 15:45 <@luxidream> fixxed in 3.7 15:45 I still think kaen should be nerfed a lil in vanilla 15:46 I have sleep wand 15:46 it has 4 charges 15:46 he doesn't get MR from picking up the eyes though right? 15:46 maybe it's enough 15:46 I will YOLO 15:46 just hit 15:46 he doesn't get MR anymore 15:46 sleep wand is a good idea yeah 15:47 boulder fort and attack wands if ur scared 15:47 para pot and free action will put hairs on your chest 15:47 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Che Ill Mal Law), 1512 points, T:1050, killed by a monster (wouwou beggar) 15:48 I will a strategy called hope 15:48 that nothing bad happens 15:48 sounds epic, I believe in you 15:48 best speedrun strat is to get lucky 15:48 just not the most consistent 15:51 aoei: you can still try and when it failes (which now you will notified about in unnethack), you can still go on and fetch the prize. even faster than when solving the puzzle "properly" 15:52 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 15:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:15448, rt[1:57:19] 15:54 ez 15:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15450, rt[1:57:26] 15:54 luxidream do the sokosolvers take into account falling through holes? 15:54 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:54 <@luxidream> no 15:55 also i have to modify the levels to have more holes 15:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed the invisible Zuggtmoy, on T:44905 15:55 but it should be ez to figure some shortcuts from the optimal solution there 15:55 hi 15:55 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 15:55 Umbire: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-03-07 13:26 EST: thank you for making that great nethackwiki post, I added my two cents ;) really don't get why you got such a weird reaction, as your post was pretty good and informative in my eyes 15:55 take it I missed the race? 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 234 points, T:1417, killed by an uninjured kitten 15:55 luxidream3: careful, you're sounding a bit like mccauley there ;) 15:56 that's to make them legal sokoban levels :) 15:56 the simulator doesn't like it when there are more boulders than holes 15:58 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1184, rt[0:05:56] 15:59 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "tooled horn", on T:1214, rt[0:06:49] 15:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:7885 15:59 done for today 15:59 I think that game is now pretty much ascended 16:00 unless there's some changes that catch me offguard 16:00 adeon: you should turn on in-game timer in setseed 16:00 so we know where you are 16:00 is that an option in the option file 16:01 OPTIONS=realtime:w 16:01 OPTIONS=realtime_format:u 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 173 points, T:1227, killed by an uninjured hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 16:07 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 16:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:8961 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 magicbane", on T:18033 16:11 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2678, rt[0:17:42] 16:11 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:11 . 16:11 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-03-07 15:14 EST: uhh, it seems that musicdemon on hdf-us was playing an old slex 2.66 savegame that was still around, but crashed; can you check whether there's a recent core dump for that, and try to run the recover utility if there's something to recover? :) sorry! 16:11 !tell LarienTelrunya its recovered 16:11 Will do, K2! 16:12 yay thanks K2! did it also create a core dump by any chance, or was it a panic? 16:12 LarienTelrunya: Message from K2 at 2021-03-07 16:11 EST: its recovered 16:13 https://termbin.com/dx2p 16:13 there was nothing to recover fyi, had to restore from latest backup 16:14 fuck, really??? 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 63563 points, T:18150, killed by a touch of death 16:15 !lastgame bouquet 16:15 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1615038037.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/nethack/dumplog/1576989832.nh.html 16:15 rip 16:15 rip 16:15 alright I'll !tell musicdemon about it 16:17 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:19 gotta go to sleep now; thanks for the help K2 ♥ 16:20 Sleep well. 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law), 3095 points, T:5905, killed by a panther 16:21 nerf patherns 16:21 -n 16:21 pathern, a panther with a patterned fur! :D 16:22 wasn't burdened, panther gets nine attacks in a row 16:22 alright, really going to sleep now :) nighty night! Umbire: ♥ 16:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:22 luck of the antigulp 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 358 points, T:578, killed by a jumping spider 16:26 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4840, rt[0:32:53] 16:26 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 9898 points, T:4841, rt[0:33:03], wc[0:34:22], quit 16:29 <@910rd> didn't get the luckstone :/ 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of falconry gloves entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1662 16:35 gauntlets of dexterity, not bad 16:36 I hope she gives you an actual falcon next 16:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:58579 16:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:58581 16:37 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:37 evilhack speedrun when 16:37 :D 16:38 -!- musicdemon has joined #hardfought 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law), 2557 points, T:3441, killed by a leocrotta 16:40 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2319 16:54 I'm switching from curses to tty for stability reasons. How do I advance to the next page in a *---More---* dialog? 16:54 Also, thank you, K2, for the save recovery :) 16:55 what is wrong with curses stability? 16:55 Space 16:55 FIQ: It's not playing nice with SLEX 16:55 instead of just saying it's unstable, it would be nice to know what's wrong with it 16:55 musicdemon o/ 16:55 oh so it's slex that is unstable, not curses 16:55 got it 16:55 lol 16:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) genocided lava gremlins, on T:58918 16:56 well, I've had several crashes with the curses port, so I'll see if stability improves without it 16:57 oh, I see what's happening. It's giving me 'More' even if it's the last page of information 16:59 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0] 17:01 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 17:03 aosdict: could you check if I've made a Y to the ANI about Circe's island? I'm pretty sure I said it in the past but can't see it on the archive 17:03 How did the speedrunning go? 17:03 not sure if it was more recent than most recent update 17:04 I splatted a few valks and started malding, then managed one somehow, aced the monk, and then derped around and lucked my way through major blunders on an orc barb 17:04 AntiGulp got absolutely demolished by horrendous luck over and over 17:05 it was only us two 17:05 that one Mine's End with the dragon and those other mons....whoo boy 17:05 yeah and the soko zoo they had as well, yikes 17:06 let's just say the orc barb wasn't done with all my brain cells active 17:06 at one point I kicked a luckstone at yeenoghu 17:07 yeah, I couldn't tell what you were doing there 17:07 just brain fart? 17:07 I wanted to double check that it wasn't the loadstone, despite having found the loadstone already 17:07 and didn't think about the heckin' demon 17:07 oh, lol 17:08 the second I did it I realised how bad it was and just carried on lol 17:09 AntiGulp got 4 polytraps in mines end at one point 17:09 ...why was Yeenoghu even there 17:10 I forgot goblins count as same race sac 17:10 I think it was a hasty sacrifice of wrong alignment? 17:10 yeah 17:10 I've actually never ascended an orc before 17:12 you still haven't (jab jab) 17:13 there's time :P 17:13 orc wizards are great 17:14 I'm way behind on ascensions really, not even done every role on a public server 17:14 amateurhour: case insensitive grap for 'circe' doesn't find anything 17:14 * Pinkbeast has won... one or two roles on public servers 17:14 grep 17:16 YANI: sometimes instead of Medusa's Island you get Circe's Island. She has a nasty polymorph touch attack, and is accompanied by a Scylla the sea monster 17:16 referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circe 17:18 if you throw an oil pot at an enemy and then zap them with a /oFire will it turn into a sticky, inferno-y debuff? 17:19 http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Kirke ? 17:20 every day it sounds more and more like I should try dcss 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 3158 points, T:3808, killed by a gnomish wizard 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1846 17:21 dramatically better UI, a lot fewer things to learn (the latter is the part some folx hate) 17:22 kirke's a kindof miniboss, a handful of unique monsters will spawn each game, there's a lot of them 17:23 amateurhour: Obviously I recommend the excellent Stoat Soup variant ahem 17:24 is that by any chance your variant? :P 17:24 I might be one of the Stoat Soup triumvirate, yes 17:24 I assure you it includes no additional kinds of shoes, fleecy colours, or bundles. 17:25 I tried dcss a few years ago, but it didn't really grab me. There isn't as much weirdness or strange entropy as nethack 17:26 musicdemon: Yeah, that's fair enough. And the vanilla dev team are jumping on a lot of the remaining weirdness - Linley's Dungeon Crawl is very recognisably inspired by NetHack 17:27 I did love the interface, though :) 17:28 gonna head to sleep now, seeya! 17:28 I mean, that's good and I'd find it hard to go back (and the one of us who has RSI _cannot_ play NetHack, no autoexplore) but I think NH could be greatly improved by borrowing the "no scumming, no typo deaths, monsters always dangerous" approach, while still being NetHack 17:28 amateurhour: G'night, well ascended 17:28 'night 17:28 Crawl is... interesting, I've played it briefly but never went deeper 17:28 it was a soko+mines race no ascensions here :P 17:29 * Pinkbeast looks sheepish er well well mines-ed 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 grayswandir", on T:2555 17:33 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:35 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Che Vam Mal Law), 18388 points, T:4219, petrified by a werecockatrice 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:3190 17:41 A werewhat 17:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:18179 17:48 YASI: Throwing a potion of booze at the Cyclops causes him to catch it and drink it, with the same effects as it would have on the player. 17:49 YASI pt. 2: Special dialogue from the Cyclops if the player is named Nobody. 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 3255 points, T:3323, killed by a wolf 17:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed mithril magic harp", on T:60122 17:50 Umbire, yeah, werecockatrices are slex for you 17:51 but monsters like werepanthers are also in regular slashem, and exist in certain mythologies 17:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:60126 17:52 (even then, I'd say a werepanther would be too similar to a werewolf) 17:52 !tell amateurhour why is scylla with circe? shouldn't she be with charybdis? 17:52 amateurhour shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 17:53 Not like games haven't taken liberties before 17:53 (also Charybdis is a sentient whirlpool iirc) 17:54 <{Demo}2> whirlpool dishwasher appliance 17:54 it feels weird to have scylla and not charybdis is the point 17:54 <{Demo}2> that would be a good goofy sci-fi character 17:54 Three times a day, Charybdis swallowed a huge amount of water, before belching it back out again, creating large whirlpools capable of dragging a ship underwater. In some variations of the story, Charybdis was simply a large whirlpool instead of a sea monster. 17:54 ^so it's dependent on the telling 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh343] JimH (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 989 points, T:2891, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 17:57 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Cyb Vam Mal Law), 3086 points, T:81, quit 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law) murdered Clifford, his faithful little dog, on T:975 17:59 He's gone to the big red doghouse in the sky... 17:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:10602 18:00 <@riker> big red doghouse immediately made me picture charybdis as clifford the big red dog 18:00 lul 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 10274 points, T:2956, killed by a watchman 18:01 Whoa hold on 18:02 The wiki says he generates with a wand of lightning 18:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:20708 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:5857 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6106 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Robber, on T:35781 18:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) genocided krakens, on T:60300 18:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:60307 18:10 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Che Vam Mal Law), 208 points, T:522, killed by a shotgun shell 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Hum Fem Law), 475 points, T:2149, killed by a wounded wererat 18:12 Aha, found the line 18:13 !booze 18:13 * Beholder hands nabru a potion of see invisible, decanted by Izchak at 30 degrees Celsius. 18:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:16 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Law), 538212 points, T:14725, rt[3:47:01], wc[6:46:27], ascended 18:16 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1615134602.seed.html 18:16 GG 18:17 Sub 15k 18:17 * Umbire claps 18:17 congrats! 18:17 14K turns, noice 18:17 was trying for fast realtime tgbh 18:17 but wasn't all that fast realtime 18:17 thanks 18:17 gg! 18:17 A win is a win. 18:18 that iss true Pinkbeast 18:18 nooice 18:18 i burnt lifesaving trying to eat the wizard for int/telepathy 18:19 cuz i was overstuff as an mmf 18:19 <{Demo}2> also overstuffed as a mf 18:19 lmao 18:20 * musicdemon puts a Louisville Slugger-like swing into a tiny lich that got in the way of his pickaxe 18:20 liches get stiches 18:21 lol 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a leather conical hat entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3779 18:23 * Umbire prays for a mobileuser ascension 18:24 thx ;-) woolly rain engaged 18:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:11533 18:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:60380 18:26 for some reason I was confusing mobileuser and amateurhour in my mind 18:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:60382 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 8192 points, T:8813, killed by a wounded leocrotta 18:33 Asking here as well - how is source code uploading to the wiki handled? 18:36 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 18:40 Hi tommo 18:40 o hi 18:40 how r ya? 18:41 Decent, looking into adding source code to the wiki 18:41 o ok 18:41 im tryna decide on a new packorder 18:42 Wands first so when you blow up your BoH you keep more stuff 18:42 heh 18:43 id rather not, but its funny to think that works 18:44 my wands have been way down the list for too long tho, they r definitely getting a promotion 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 151 points, T:280, killed by an electric shock 18:45 It does work; I did it in 3.1.3 before I developed the necessary discipline. 18:48 nice 18:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:60470 18:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:60478 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2542 18:55 <@deathsushi> If I dip a potion of invisibility into a cursed potion of water, and I get the message "Interesting", does that mean that it's already cursed? 18:55 <@deathsushi> (It doesn't use up the unholy water) 18:56 deathsushi: I'm led to know there's a giant object identification spoiler. 18:56 It probably answers this question. 18:57 @deathsushi: ya u got it 18:57 <@deathsushi> tommo: Thank you 18:57 Perhaps still the spoiler would be a useful thing to read. 18:57 fishing for clicks are we 18:58 hothraxxa: Eh, it could have been written by literally anyone. :-) 18:58 <@deathsushi> Pinkbeast: I've read it, multiple times. Head's up — it doesn't answer this. 18:58 seriously, it is a good thing to read. i thank you for your effort 18:58 <@deathsushi> Assuming you're talking about this page: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Identification 18:59 he is not 18:59 <@deathsushi> Ah 18:59 alright, lets see the link 18:59 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/nhid.html 18:59 @deathsushi Yes, it's cursed. 19:00 If you dip a blessed object into holy water - or a cursed object into unholy water - it won't use up the potion in either case 19:00 "It's best to dip a cursed useful object if you have one. If you picked unholy water, nothing happens ("Interesting..."); if you picked holy water, you were going to use it up uncursing that object anyway. Hence, you avoid a wasted potion." 19:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu), 4403766 points, T:60510, ascended 19:00 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1614378544.evil.html 19:00 GG! 19:00 thx! 19:00 wtg mobileuser 19:01 ooo 19:01 grats 19:01 <@deathsushi> This spoiler is great — it should be linked off the wiki 19:01 <@deathsushi> Is there a reason it isn't? 19:01 nobody likes pinkbeast 19:02 That's true, I'm a miserable git. But you are allowed to scroll down on the wiki. 19:02 <@deathsushi> I don't see this listed in the external links section 19:03 External links 19:03 The NetHack Object Identification Spoiler (for version 3.4.3, but still largely correct). 19:03 <@deathsushi> This is what I see: 19:03 <@deathsushi> External links Clippy is a handy tool to identify an item. Determine Objects by their Price works similar. It is more accurate because takes some more corner cases into account, but less broad because it works for the magical items ? ! / = + only. The consolidated item tables lists the base price of every single item. NetHack Shopping Spoiler DizzyPrice is an open source price identification tool updated to the new rounding method for 19:03 NetHack 3.6.0. 19:03 tbh not sure if there's anything that isn't correct 19:03 <@deathsushi> Anyhow, all good, I got my answer — thank you 19:03 <{Demo}2> Pinkbeast, what is the story behind this line " I am not keen to be told that I use British English spellings; you wouldn't think I'd have to mention that, but unfortunately that is not the case." 19:03 hothraxxa: It's not all correct for >3.4.3 19:04 no? what's incorrect? th eprice rounding differences? 19:04 ohhh that huge table i never use i bety 19:04 deathsushi https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Price_identification is not https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Identification 19:05 {Demo}2: In all candour I hope you can fill in the story unaided. 19:05 <{Demo}2> ok, I will instead send the message I wrote first 19:05 <{Demo}2> hey Pinkbeast, I see this article discusses "grey stones" but yet there are only "gray stones" in nethack 19:05 that's not british vs amercian spelling 19:05 Well, quite so. 19:06 <{Demo}2> this is all i can see as to guess about complaints 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:40288 19:06 Armour? 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:43673 19:06 <{Demo}2> same problem though 19:07 <{Demo}2> goofy pedantic complaints? 19:07 there is only a scroll of enchant armor but if you wish for or write enchant arnour it works just fine 19:07 er 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40289 19:07 emchamnt armour 19:07 <{Demo}2> enchant arnie should work too for emstraulian spelling 19:07 enchant arnour won't work at all reallly 19:07 {Demo}2: I got a surprising number of those complaints; that's why I wrote it 19:07 <@deathsushi> lol Demo 19:07 <{Demo}2> that is actually quite surprising to me 19:07 Well, it was also quite surprising to me. 19:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:10 -!- musicdemon has left #hardfought 19:10 <@bloodnok> But, to be clear, you have now found it linked from the Wiki? 19:11 Hello person 19:11 <@deathsushi> bloodnok — yah, I clicked through from ID'ing to P ID'ing, then looked at the bottom 19:12 <@deathsushi> So the most important thing, which is that the spoiler page is accessible, and can be read through, has been resolved 19:12 <@deathsushi> 19:12 <@deathsushi> No need to ascend now 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:3335 19:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:29 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Cluser, on T:9879 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:1893 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 184 points, T:219, killed by a dagger 19:33 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1368 points, T:1989, killed by a land mine 19:35 rip 19:38 -!- aoei is now known as Stella 19:38 !setmintc 1000 19:38 Stella: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for stella set to 1000 19:38 -!- Stella is now known as aoei 19:41 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3687, rt[0:13:36] 19:45 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4423, rt[0:17:22] 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 279 points, T:3231, killed by an uninjured giant rat 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3168 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 330 points, T:1612, killed by an uninjured bat 19:59 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3099, rt[0:20:39] 20:00 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7187, rt[0:31:54] 20:05 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:7742, rt[0:37:05] 20:08 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law), 69812 points, T:10803, killed by a monster (angry watch leader) 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Burglar, on T:43123 20:10 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3924, rt[0:31:22] 20:15 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5006, rt[0:37:07] 20:17 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:6048, rt[0:39:00] 20:23 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) averted death (killed by an uninjured killer bee), on T:4706 20:31 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1] 20:31 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 2929 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ouiatchouane's general store, on T:8544, rt[0:52:55] 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5301 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5337 20:33 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:5495 20:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3367 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3402 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3630 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44326 20:46 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1] 20:47 <@deathsushi> Spicy, dropping some love ❤️ 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2181 points, T:4868, killed by an uninjured killer bee 20:50 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 58023 points, T:13539, [1:22:02], killed by an uninjured minotaur 20:52 F 20:53 <@deathsushi> rip 20:55 heh 20:55 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 20:56 I think I'll finish my monk I started today soonish 20:56 I got up to valley of the dead, master kaen dead, no real obstacles to just ascending 20:56 Good luck 20:56 I think I did not get my luck up 20:57 but not sure that's too important 20:57 AC is -14 20:57 could be more but I have the master key of thievery 20:57 <@luxidream> if you're not wearing body armor it doesn't matter 20:57 so I think it's okay 20:58 Hey Luxi 20:58 How's it hanging 20:58 also nurse danced to >200 hp 20:58 <@luxidream> doin alright 20:58 <@luxidream> seems pretty stacked Adeon 20:59 -!- mode/Beholder [+RZi] by Beholder 20:59 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ SlashTHEM 0.9.5 now available to play! 20:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 20:59 awwww 20:59 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1010, rt[0:04:12] 20:59 but I think I have all the relevant resistances for demons 20:59 <@luxidream> you should be totally fine, just letting you know 20:59 IIRC asmodeus is fun if you forgot cold resistance 21:00 does like 100000000 damage 21:00 He sure is Fun™ 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4 points, T:88, killed by a falling object 21:00 <@luxidream> yeah I've almost been killed that way before 21:00 <@luxidream> remember to bribe 21:00 I think the max damage on that eats all but like 21:00 10-20 HP 21:00 of your current char 21:00 !who 21:00 bribes are against my moral standards 21:00 K2: [hdf-us] Deathsushi [nh370] tsingi [nh370] omghax [nh370] arnibald [dnh] KrO2 [dnh] beastly [slex] RohoDragon [slex] Tommo [seed] | [hdf-eu] tkirkby [slex] Stella [seed] | [hdf-au] No current players 21:01 !whereis omghax 21:01 K2: [hdf-us] omghax [nh370]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 21:01 <@luxidream> amazing that you still have moral standards playing this game 21:01 Yeah it's a 30d6 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:7, killed by a falling object 21:01 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 21:02 Monks get it at XL13 so assuming no severe level drains you're good to go 21:02 it = cold resistance* 21:03 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "holy ring of polymorph", on T:12230, rt[1:24:40] 21:03 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:12239, rt[1:25:05] 21:03 -!- loli has quit [Client Quit] 21:04 yeah I think I got everything relevant 21:05 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 21:15 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:13438, rt[1:37:20] 21:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Mother Lilith, on T:45112 21:17 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3886, rt[0:21:30] 21:17 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3362 points, T:3888, [0:21:46], killed by an uninjured nalfeshnee 21:17 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 21:18 trying to find discussions on the internet about best font to use in terminal for gaming 21:18 but I can't find interesting discussions 21:18 I wish to find someone's wall of text about how their choice X was the best and everything else is bad 21:20 I like Consolas font (putty) 21:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 197 points, T:558, [0:02:24], killed by an uninjured dwarf 21:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 21:20 I just downloaded adobe's source code pro 21:21 it looks okay 21:21 my tastes are not refined enough 21:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4 points, T:25, killed by a falling object 21:21 ooh bold adobe source code pro is pretty nice 21:21 dejavu sans mono is alright 21:22 the default macos font is alright too 21:22 cant remember what its called 21:22 !who 21:22 K2: [hdf-us] Deathsushi [nh370] arnibald [dnh] KrO2 [dnh] RohoDragon [slex] Tommo [seed] | [hdf-eu] omghax [nh370] tkirkby [slex] Stella [seed] | [hdf-au] No current players 21:22 !whereis omghax 21:22 K2: [hdf-eu] omghax [nh370]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 21:22 I think even the nice modern M1 laptop has that issue with input lag 21:23 it's not really noticeable unless you have experienced playing on something that has no input lag 21:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:12, killed by a falling object 21:23 linux+xterm is one of those without input lag 21:23 macos + iterm there is slight input lag 21:23 <@luxidream> I like consolas 21:23 <@luxidream> I find termius to be really awful 21:23 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uY4c65t4/Screen%20Shot%202021-03-07%20at%206.23.34%20PM.png 21:23 I don't like the walls 21:23 otherwise I like this one 21:23 the walls are too thin 21:24 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 21:25 consolas font using IBMgraphics symset - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2525 21:25 (if you see a broken pic link just refresh) 21:25 that's pretty nice 21:26 I think I might slightly change colors 21:26 I think I would want that dark red look a little different 21:26 the IBMgraphics lava symbol is better than } 21:27 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/818308809016999986/unknown.png 21:27 the color palette I use is 'linux console' from here - https://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/wintermcolors.php 21:29 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1135, rt[0:04:55] 21:30 awww SYMBOLS doesn't take unicode characters 21:32 I think I'll just then set lava to ~ 21:32 and water to ~ 21:35 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xCPfiW4T/Screen%20Shot%202021-03-07%20at%206.34.52%20PM.png 21:35 nice 21:35 I like this 21:35 I like thick characters in general 21:35 !who 21:35 innuendo much? 21:35 K2: [hdf-us] Deathsushi [nh370] arnibald [dnh] KrO2 [dnh] RohoDragon [slex] Tommo [seed] | [hdf-eu] Stella [seed] | [hdf-au] omghax [nh370] 21:35 !whereis omghax 21:35 K2: [hdf-au] omghax [nh370]: (Tou Hum Mal Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 21:36 [hdf-au] [nh370] omghax (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:7, killed by a falling object 21:36 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 21:36 ^ new edit level (32) 21:36 <@luxidream> the corners look strange 21:37 in "plain" graphics the corners are set to + 21:37 I tested it and thought that looks nice 21:37 OPTIONS=symset:plain that is 21:37 then I set lava, water, pool to ~, boulder to O and ghost to X 21:38 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2594, rt[0:14:10] 21:39 UnNetHack updated (all servers) 21:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Crone Lilith, on T:45205 21:42 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2486 points, T:3055, [0:17:57], killed by an uninjured large dog 21:43 (it mostly was the yellow dragon on oracle but large dog did good 2) 21:43 yellow WHAT 21:43 heh 21:43 99% sure that's was a chameleon 21:43 "you smell dragons" 21:43 it was, but 21:43 that* 21:43 when ur 5 steps away it dont matter much 21:44 its kinda cool that there's a warning when dragons r out of depth 21:44 <@luxidream> when you do all the damage and your teammate snipes the kill 21:45 yip yip 21:45 -!- beastlyfido has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:45 luxi i died on the high altar while u were streaming 21:46 my hooa was cursed 21:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Verier, on T:45293 21:46 it was my splattiest astral ever 21:46 Doesn't it autocurse anyway 21:47 or did it have a negative enchantment that helped sink you or s/r 21:47 s/t* 21:47 i just 21:47 didnt bother to dip it before the planes 21:47 does autocurse go straight from blessed to cursed 21:48 yes it does 21:48 heh 21:48 noted 21:48 <@luxidream> oh noes 21:48 <@luxidream> so you died unable to get it off? 21:48 <@luxidream> on the right altar? 21:48 i just happened to have no full healing, LS, /otele or etc 21:48 ye 21:49 i stepped off the altar to not die 21:49 didnt work 21:49 u kno wat tho 21:49 <@luxidream> rip 😦 21:49 i was still wearin levi 21:49 i bet that free action ;P woulda helped 21:50 <@luxidream> how'd you run out of holy 21:51 it was in my bag T_T 21:51 i just 21:51 didn't have healing, not enuf turns to take it out 21:51 remove helm etc 21:52 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 21:52 i had 2 fh for astral, hit neutral first 21:53 had sum extra healing but nothin 2 alchemize them w 21:53 <@luxidream> and high priest was angry for some reason 21:53 ye 21:53 <@luxidream> or did you wear conflict 21:53 oh, yes conflict 21:53 <@luxidream> oh yea take that off in the temple 21:53 i never had trouble w them before 21:53 loooooool 21:53 heh 21:54 <@luxidream> i think they resist sometimes, but not all the time 21:54 gotta remember that yo 21:54 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:56 i guess i never considered that they'd be peaceful 21:56 or buff 21:56 idk how it never came up before 21:57 <@luxidream> Umbire they only have a 30% chance of being affected 21:57 <@luxidream> so it's totally reasonable to not expect that 21:57 that's reasonable thinking on it 21:57 awe 21:57 i feel reassured 21:57 ha 21:57 still not a chance I (personally) want to take 21:57 but yeah, shit way to die in any event 21:58 (epic qualities aside) 21:59 its okay 21:59 it was an abandoned speedrun, so it didn't have the resources of a normal game, or the ambition of an on-time one 21:59 Makes sense 22:00 i got the ascension run in, thats the part i need the most practice on 22:00 but when i logged in this morning i was " " this close lol to #quitting 22:00 the 80x24 terminal does not have same aspect ratio as the default OBS frame 22:00 👍 22:00 idk wat it is, but the early game is my favourite part 22:01 it feels so juicy 22:01 excitement of surviving against odds and finding new (to that character) stuff 22:02 <@luxidream> I like the lategame better 22:02 <@luxidream> it's very exciting when you have barely enough to survive 22:03 * aosdict removes luxidream's mask, revealing it was ais523 all along! 22:03 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:15351, rt[2:15:36] 22:05 <@luxidream> ais523 has the game knowledge to be the best player in the world 22:06 <@luxidream> if only I understood it on half his level >.> 22:07 its funny cuz i kinda like the early game in a similar way 22:07 havin 2 make do with subpar armor, n judge when to run from mediocre creatures 22:08 <@luxidream> yeah you also do that in the second half of the game 22:08 <@luxidream> i used to hold down buttons and get stomped by minotaurs all the time 22:08 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 22:08 alright I'm a ascend my monk 22:08 <@luxidream> better at that now 22:09 heh 22:11 <@luxidream> good luck Adeon 22:11 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:11 I think it's mostly just a chore at this point 22:11 I am at lvl12 22:11 so I might lack cold resistance 22:11 I don't remember if I ever got it intrinsically 22:12 but will not go near asmodeus until I am certain 22:12 <@Shadow_Rider> lvl 12 after master kaen? 22:12 <@Shadow_Rider> Rip 22:12 I got drained 22:12 <@luxidream> blessed restore ability now restores levels 22:13 the realtime bar makes statuses now show as easily 22:13 <@luxidream> or you could swallow your pride and bribe him 22:13 I forgot to buy protection 22:14 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 22:14 2 fiqhacks for astral 22:16 Fuck 22:16 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:16 >Monks get it at XL13 so assuming no severe level drains you're good to go 22:16 so of course you get level drained NotLikeThis 22:18 I'm liking that not all gehennom levels are tight mazes now 22:18 and I was just right next to asmodeus without being sure if I had cold resistance 22:18 I felt uncomfortable so I stepped away 22:19 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:17115, rt[2:13:04] 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1626 22:24 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:17640, rt[2:18:05] 22:34 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:18638, rt[2:27:36] 22:36 did they buff vlad 22:36 <@luxidream> yes 22:36 <@luxidream> heavily 22:37 <@luxidream> he is now second fastest monster in the game 22:37 <@luxidream> teleports to downstair for covetous 22:37 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:19132, rt[2:30:46] 22:37 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:19138, rt[2:30:57] 22:37 I whacked him with cockatrice 22:37 I lost so many levels 22:39 <@Shadow_Rider> What are you at rn? 22:40 lvl 10 22:40 <@Shadow_Rider> Lol 22:40 ascending at xl10 would be kinda cute tbh 22:41 I have fire and shock resistance intrinsically but still not sure about cold 22:41 <@Shadow_Rider> Make sure you got fire res 22:41 <@Shadow_Rider> Ok yeah 22:42 there's a white dragon inside the wizard tower 22:42 I can eat it 22:42 <@luxidream> !who 22:42 @luxidream: [hdf-us] Deathsushi [nh370] Adeon [seed] | [hdf-eu] Stella [seed] | [hdf-au] Tangles [nh370] 22:42 was it meta to avoid crowning in the adeon days? 22:42 you CAN eat it! 22:42 some people said you shouldn't crown 22:43 I thought it would be worth it to get the resistances if you are lacking 22:43 <@luxidream> after spending over two hours sacrificing for a better weapon 22:43 <@luxidream> i became a fan of crowning 22:43 there used to be wiki advice to avoid getting crowned, i think lux removed it 22:44 <@luxidream> having all resistances early in the game is cool 22:44 "perforated amulet" 22:44 not sure I've seen this description before 22:44 "you feel a slight static tickle" is indeed nice 22:44 is the resistance thing why everyone's been speedrunning monks? 22:44 <@luxidream> Adeon: there are two new amulets 22:44 <@luxidream> no I've been doing it because it's fun 22:45 I've picked random roles now that I'm playing again 22:45 I say YES when it asks do you just want some random 22:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:17099, rt[2:44:46] 22:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17100, rt[2:44:47] 22:45 ah this is orcus town 22:46 <@luxidream> i wouldn't bother with resistances too much speedrunning 22:46 adeon is playing nethack ;o 22:46 <@luxidream> you can even get by with no fire resistance 22:46 moon-child: just like the old days! :P 22:46 <@Shadow_Rider> I didn’t realize I lost fire resistance the first time I reached sanctum and lost 150 max health trying to find the door 22:47 I'm not as good as I was in the old days ;-; 22:47 but that's alright 22:47 I have spirit 22:47 strong spirit 22:47 I succeed through my great hope tactics 22:47 the spirit of adeon hits! You die --more-- 22:47 <@luxidream> looks like you've still got it 22:47 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3980 22:47 where I hope really hard that nothing goes wrong 22:47 I've noticed I have a lot more accidental keypresses now 22:47 not sure if it's the keyboard or something 22:47 but e.g. moving when I didn't mean to 22:48 pushing sokoban boulders further than I meant to 22:48 <@luxidream> maybe that's what you were doing several years ago and just never noticed 22:48 my nethack skills have been attacked by a rust monster 22:48 i should get back into it too 22:48 so one thing I liked to do on orcus level 22:48 dig down 22:48 HOPE that there is a cockatrice on the level below 22:48 HOPE that it drops a corpse 22:48 and then go whack im 22:48 <@luxidream> that's a cool strategy that still works 22:49 i wonder how many of my old strategies have been nerfed or outright removed 22:49 adeon: "alas, I've been... disenchanted. I have no more powers. I can't even do card tricks" 22:49 i know of some (like the sanctum demon trick) but i'm sure i'll try to do lots of things that don't work anymore and get rekt lol 22:49 <@luxidream> elbereth, pudding farming, kiting, quest artifacts 22:49 <@luxidream> daggers 22:50 daggers? 22:50 ' I have nothing but a few meager magical leftovers here in my pockets: a short-circuited wand, useless; A dried up magic potion, powerless; The tiny stubs of a hundred or so magic candles; And a few last handfuls of magic feed corn ' 22:50 <@luxidream> -1 multishot to everyone but rogues 22:50 :< 22:50 i like daggerstorms 22:51 the special exceptions to make everyone use the "correct" weapons for their role feel a bit heavyhanded 22:51 there were two cockatrices 22:51 but neither of them dropped corpses 22:51 <@luxidream> buff vlad 22:51 my hope was not strong enough 22:51 <@luxidream> you can't scare uniques at all 22:51 quest artifacts -> Rodney steals them all not just yours? or is there more to it? 22:51 lol @ healers "yes, you can throw well, but for some reason you can only throw *knives* quickly" 22:52 <@luxidream> misha: some artifacts need to worn or wielded for benefits 22:52 <@luxidream> eota, sceptre of might are nerfed to give mr on wear/wield 22:52 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:17347, rt[2:52:03] 22:52 <@luxidream> eyes of the overworld also 22:53 2 new amulets? 22:53 I only know of flying 22:53 eyes you can just wear anyway, sceptre and eota you're more likely to have better things to put in the slot 22:53 i found one of ... guarding or something? 22:53 idk what it does 22:53 <@luxidream> guarding, gives 2 mc and 2 ac 22:53 ah 22:53 aha 22:53 cool 22:53 <@luxidream> pretty useful and auto-ids 22:53 <@luxidream> like flying! 22:53 sounds kinda mediocre lategame though 22:53 I prefer LS 22:53 <@luxidream> took space from all the bad amulets so I like it 22:53 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:17408, rt[2:53:20] 22:54 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:17414, rt[2:53:40] 22:54 I forgot to ever get any candles 22:54 I think in minetown I didn't have enough money 22:54 and thought to myself I'll come back 22:54 and now I'm at dlvl:44 22:54 <@luxidream> there are candles in vlad's tower 22:54 <@luxidream> in the chests 22:54 :o 22:54 misha: on the other hand, they removed object amnesia 22:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:54 finally 22:54 <@luxidream> misha: they nerfed mc, it's less effective and comr doesn't give mc3 anymore 22:55 <@luxidream> this is relevant if you liked wizards 22:55 *cough* 22:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:21415, rt[2:49:27] 22:56 <@luxidream> on the plus side, we can also displace peacefuls now 22:56 cockatrice plan success 22:56 <@deathsushi> So later in the gme, I want to wish for multiple cursed scrolls of genocide, rather than GDSM, because then I can also use the scrolls to call forward some nurses or whatever 22:57 <@deathsushi> Is that correct? 22:57 god, prompts for attacking peacefuls were one of the big reasons to play variants 22:57 *any* variant 22:57 cuz they all fixed it 22:57 <@luxidream> no, because you can make some gray dragons 22:57 i know they still haven't fixed the 'typo into water/lava' thing though :< 22:57 <@deathsushi> spicyebolla — that you dropping scrolls off with me? 22:57 while also adding more random water and lava everywhere 22:57 <@deathsushi> luxiderp: Right, I know that part 22:57 <@deathsushi> But that seems like more of a pain in the ass than just wishing for GDSM 22:57 yep 22:57 <@luxidream> it also identifies genocide 22:57 <@Shadow_Rider> Magic marker 22:58 <@deathsushi> So why not JUST wish for the GDSM 22:58 <@luxidream> it's just a better use of resources 22:58 <@Shadow_Rider> If you’ve id it 22:58 <@deathsushi> spiceyebolla word — yo! 22:58 <@deathsushi> luxiderp: How come? If I already have genocide ID'd 22:58 <@luxidream> ok then just write geno 22:58 <@luxidream> save yourself the wish 22:58 I think I'll open up stream 22:58 <@deathsushi> Assuming I have a marker 22:58 i spectate nethack; 50% of the fun with 0% of the risk and heartache 22:58 <@luxidream> then wish for a marker 22:58 <@Shadow_Rider> Wish for a marker then 22:58 <@deathsushi> Which is then what I wish for 22:58 <@deathsushi> Right, got it 22:59 misha: urgh, really? 22:59 why no paranoid_water...? 22:59 <@deathsushi> haha 22:59 at least last i saw ... or maybe there is something like that and i didn't find it yet idk 22:59 lol 22:59 bhaak: you should add it 22:59 chop chop 22:59 bhaak: me too thx 22:59 <@luxidream> so you will stream for half an hour adeon 😄 22:59 <@luxidream> the game is almost over 22:59 yes 23:00 well you don't know how slow I am 23:00 or maybe fast 23:00 who knows 23:00 <@luxidream> speeeeeed 23:00 I thought Adeon was fast 23:00 <@luxidream> I'll watch 23:00 <@Shadow_Rider> Second run afterwards?? 23:00 I will not 23:00 because I'll sleep soon 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "greased fixed magic marker", on T:47137 23:01 <@deathsushi> Guys I did it 23:01 stream is open https://www.twitch.tv/noedae 23:01 eAdeon 23:01 FIQ: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/257, been sitting around since 2019... 23:01 ((puts on her dragon umbrella)) 23:02 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:02 aosdict: maybe they just need some encouragement 23:02 Hm? 23:03 they should add me to DT 23:03 I only bring the greatest changes 23:03 afk sleep 23:03 wand destruction patch incoming 23:04 xNetHack updated (all servers) 23:05 aosdict: tell? o: 23:05 <@luxidream> wands imbalance patch 23:07 Umbire: just some bug fixes 23:07 o 23:07 nothing huge 23:07 lol luxi 23:07 have YOU ever tried to balance a wand on a flat surface? It's pretty hard, I tell you! 23:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 8451 points, T:6067, killed by an uninjured hallucinogen-distorted garter snake, while sleeping off a magical draught 23:10 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:18202, rt[3:09:49] 23:10 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:18203, rt[3:09:51] 23:14 <@deathsushi> Yeesh, six gray dragons and not a single set of scales 23:16 aosdict: balance it the other way 23:16 _ not | 23:16 ez 23:17 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:18516, rt[3:16:28] 23:18 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:18529, rt[3:17:32] 23:18 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:18530, rt[3:17:37] 23:19 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:18537, rt[3:18:27] 23:20 The wand turns into an altar! 23:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a crested helmet entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:7365 23:25 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "holy ring of conflict", on T:18879, rt[3:24:49] 23:27 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:23630, rt[3:20:18] 23:29 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:23640, rt[3:22:36] 23:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:19028, rt[3:28:53] 23:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:19032, rt[3:28:58] 23:33 -!- dmikemiller has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:33 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:23752, rt[3:26:47] 23:33 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:19122, rt[3:33:04] 23:36 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 952 points, T:1251, killed by a wounded rothe 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a steel spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2360 23:38 Ooh, sick gift 23:39 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:24258, rt[3:32:38] 23:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:24333, rt[3:34:02] 23:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:24340, rt[3:34:08] 23:41 Ah ah ah ah~ 23:41 Stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 23:42 iiiiiiiiii-ii-ii-iiiii 23:43 too many quasits 23:43 This NetHack/Adult Swim collab blows D: 23:44 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 714 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:19406, rt[3:43:51] 23:44 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:46 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:19499, rt[3:45:36] 23:47 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 158 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:19597, rt[3:46:36] 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:49733 23:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:12638 23:50 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 128 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:25432, rt[3:43:22] 23:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of reflection, on T:11760 23:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 270 points, T:1697, killed by an uninjured dwarf 23:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Adeon (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:26664, rt[3:49:28] 23:58 GJ beating Asmodeus :B 23:59 asmo's a sucker lol