00:02 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:10677, rt[0:37:43] 00:13 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 67298 points, T:13547, [0:48:16], killed by uninjured Master Kaen 00:13 <@910rd> F 00:14 <@luxidream> note to self: just get the wand of death first 00:14 <@910rd> From the one time that I have faced Master Kaen, I agree. 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:39666 00:24 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:12940, rt[2:13:49] 00:28 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:12995, rt[2:16:54] 00:30 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1150 points, T:1678, [0:02:58], killed by a magic missile 00:31 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:40476 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:30284 00:36 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:13391, rt[2:25:18] 00:36 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2069, rt[0:04:33] 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:30287 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 cloak of protection", on T:30304 00:41 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 8333 points, T:3484, [0:09:39], killed by a wounded human mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:42 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:13751, rt[2:31:13] 00:44 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 00:44 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 00:45 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 509 points, T:1524, [0:03:19], killed by an uninjured rothe 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:30370 00:48 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:51 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1854, rt[0:03:45] 00:52 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:14453, rt[2:39:32] 00:52 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:14455, rt[2:39:36] 00:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3150, rt[0:06:44] 00:57 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:14931, rt[2:44:42] 00:57 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3867, rt[0:09:54] 00:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 4713 points, T:3925, [0:10:26], killed by a wounded gnome lady 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:17055 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Heroine, on T:42545 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:30689 01:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:30731 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 151 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:31435 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:31497 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 108 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:31648 01:17 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:31923 01:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:16034 01:25 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32231 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:32232 01:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38828 01:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:38840 01:28 <@deathsushi> Does /oD work on Kaen? 01:29 <@deathsushi> Is Stormbringer a weapon worth using as a rogue? 01:29 <@deathsushi> I've never been gifted it before 01:30 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:32744 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32747 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32749 01:31 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law), 13000 points, T:4346, killed by a shotgun shell 01:31 Stormy is no worse for Rogue than for any other chaotic. 01:31 <@deathsushi> Okay great 01:32 <@deathsushi> I've never played Rogue before, so kind of playing it by ear 01:32 Be advised: wielding it around temple priests and shopkeepers can be a bad idea. 01:32 Oh, and quest leaders. 01:33 I mean, the usual strat for rogue is to engrave Elbereth and throw daggers. 01:34 But you usually still want a melee weapon, for convenience, for dealing with low-level annoyance monsters. 01:34 Mopping up riffraff. 01:34 And for situations where you don't want to throw your daggers, e.g., when crossing water. 01:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:33109 01:36 <@deathsushi> Mmmm 01:36 <@deathsushi> So is wishing for Magicbane what people typically do? 01:36 <@deathsushi> Can I use SB to engrave with? 01:36 <@deathsushi> Or does that dull it? 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:33129 01:37 <@luxidream> you don't need to wish for mb 01:37 <@luxidream> just use stormbringer 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:33133 01:37 <@luxidream> don't engrave with stormbringer 01:37 <@deathsushi> Okay 01:38 <@deathsushi> Just use fingertip? 01:38 <@deathsushi> /wands 01:38 <@luxidream> you don't need to elbereth all the time either 01:38 <@luxidream> what jonadab is describing is an old strategy that used to work in 3.4.3 01:38 <@deathsushi> Yah, I guess once I get to a certain level of AC and health, it's moot anyhow 01:38 <@luxidream> you used to get bonus damage for thrown daggers when the enemy is fleeing 01:38 <@luxidream> now it's melee only 01:38 <@deathsushi> Right, and didn't lose Elbereth if you did that while standing on it 01:39 <@luxidream> right 01:39 <@luxidream> so just hit things with stormbringer and don't worry too much 01:39 <@deathsushi> Sounds like a sweet strat. I'm going for it 01:39 <@deathsushi> (thank you) 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:33268 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:33271 01:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:39705 01:44 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: zhakupov] 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2642 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15964 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "+2 blessed greased fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:2803 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 86413 points, T:28628, killed by a winged gargoyle 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:35206 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:35208 02:00 Daggerstorming still does quite a lot if you're fine with the minor tedium of picking them up after 02:00 and more pressingly having them possibly tossed back at you 02:00 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1492 points, T:1681, quit 02:02 <@deathsushi> Yah 02:02 <@deathsushi> Four attacks in one turn is nice 02:02 <@deathsushi> Does switching to my alternate weapon take a turn? 02:03 Yes 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:35386 02:03 Generally I feel like the safety play would be to switch to Stormy only when you know combat's gonna happen 02:04 Though you'd still have to be extra mindful 02:04 Helps that daggerstorming doesn't require a switch though 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed cockatrice corpse", on T:35448 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:35452 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:35465 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:23899 02:08 I should totally remember to make a crysknife with this Rogue 02:08 <@deathsushi> Yah, basically I keep storm in off-hand, and only switch once I know combat is imminent 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1299632 points, T:35488, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/CropperS/nethack/dumplog/1614808012.nh.html 02:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 518 points, T:4619, killed by a barely wounded lurker above 02:13 GG 02:14 ...wow, lurkers still giving you problems huh? :c 02:14 Bastards 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25523 02:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of flying", on T:25783 02:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:12253 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Lama, on T:12666 02:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 487 points, T:1976, killed by an uninjured little dog 03:25 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 03:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1643 points, T:2653, killed by a wounded rothe 03:31 in xnethack worn armour weights less, is this a feature? 03:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2042 points, T:895, killed by a wounded gecko 03:34 Yes 03:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 195 points, T:486, killed by a boiling potion, while sleeping off a magical draught 03:43 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 03:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2156 points, T:808, killed by a wounded hobbit 03:46 -!- hisacro has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:47 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3804 03:50 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:50 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) shouted "Prancer", on T:4182 03:50 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) shouted "Prancer", on T:4195 03:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3330 03:51 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) shouted "", on T:4209 03:51 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) shouted "Prancer", on T:4209 03:52 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) shouted "Prancer", on T:4236 03:52 -!- hisacro has joined #hardfought 03:53 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) shouted "Prancer", on T:4267 03:54 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) shouted "Here boy", on T:4352 03:54 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) shouted "come here boy", on T:4362 03:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1725 03:55 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:55 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:55 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3329 points, T:2505, killed by a dart 04:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4447 04:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:19 wait thats weird 04:22 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:4347 04:22 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:4385 04:22 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4410 04:23 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:4599 04:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 11 points, T:27, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 04:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3630 points, T:5236, poisoned by a rotted dwarf corpse, while praying 04:39 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gnomish wizard, on T:5271 04:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1728 04:45 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 04:50 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:50 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6562 04:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3554 04:56 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:7636 05:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4839 05:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4852 05:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4934 05:02 Weird? 05:03 why should armour magically weigh less when you put it on 05:03 A wizard did it. 05:04 Probably meant to represent that it's easier to carry that way 05:04 maybe it just feels like it's less heavy because the load is spread 05:04 yeah 05:05 ok fine it does kinda make sense 05:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4194 points, T:5046, killed by an uninjured jaguar 05:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 23090 points, T:8590, killed by a sasquatch 05:09 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8791 05:11 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:28 my brother has acquired covid 05:29 he's not part of a high-risk group 05:29 I, however, am 05:29 hmmm... 05:29 oof 05:29 my bro caught it as well 05:29 but largely symptom free 05:29 and i haven't seen him in ages since we live in diff countries 05:32 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:11036 05:33 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11085 05:34 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 05:36 aoei: unsure what variant you're talking about, but in fiqhack, armor weight less when worn because of load balancing 05:36 it's easy to carry wearables by, well, wearing them 05:36 yea it does make sense once i thought about it 05:36 the actual true mass/weight doesn't hcange, but the perceived load 05:37 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1101 05:46 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 05:51 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2286 points, T:2415, killed by an uninjured gnome, while praying 06:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2072 points, T:2701, killed by a heavily wounded pony 06:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4372 06:31 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 06:39 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:46 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 06:51 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:00 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 07:02 wvc: aoei: yes, worn armor weighs less. got this from fiqhack (but not the exact ratios) 07:02 K2: someone named Vis reported a dnh crash on eu server in #dnethack 07:10 probs bones if dnh wasn't updated yet 07:14 [hdf-au] [slshm] PeachMuffin (Und Gno Mal Neu), 1684 points, T:2434, killed by a giant spider, while helpless 07:23 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1070 points, T:1398, poisoned by a soldier ant 07:24 resume from save to settle in for a bit of evening nethack... soldier ant appears and instakills. All in about 5 sec. 07:24 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:24 aosdict that's totes neato 07:26 ouch I hate when that happens Tangles 07:26 Go team a! 07:26 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:42663 07:27 (amateurhour and aoei better chime in :P) 07:27 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 07:27 idk man I think we should kick soldier ants outta the team 07:27 making us look bad 07:28 i thought the goal was to kill adventurers 🤔 07:29 i've killed thousands! 07:29 amateurhour i did patch dnh a few days ago 07:30 the fix for the bones mextra thing 07:30 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:30 Evil Patch Idea: whenever you load a saved game, soldier ants are generated just out of sight around a corner. 07:31 ah right K2 07:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Mon Hum Mal Law), 749 points, T:645, killed by an arrow 07:37 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 168 points, T:479, killed by a jackal 07:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2750 points, T:2000, killed by a wounded gnome 07:42 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Cav Hum Mal Law), 492 points, T:1002, killed by a wounded gnome lady 07:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2034 points, T:2335, killed by an orcish arrow 07:52 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1695 points, T:2990, killed by a kitten 07:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:13219 07:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2642 08:00 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:1360 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:39875 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:39879 08:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5018 08:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5058 08:12 hmm I found the vibrating square in slashTHEM but didn't encounter demogorgon yet - maybe I accidentally skipped their floor 08:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:5120 08:12 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:12 or maybe it's not guaranteed? not sure 08:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:39916 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (rust monsters), on T:1738 08:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:5539 08:15 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 08:17 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6869 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1274 points, T:1103, killed by a slightly wounded bugbear 08:29 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8631 points, T:7714, killed by a wounded giant mimic, while praying 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1885 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3003 08:44 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 4505 points, T:1879, rt[0:11:52], wc[0:11:53], killed by an uninjured giant zombie 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1719 points, T:2051, killed by a wounded Woodland-elf 08:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) was given Nodensfork, on T:21053 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1131 08:56 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2497, rt[0:11:40] 08:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 422 points, T:1599, killed by an uninjured gnome 08:57 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 5726 points, T:2882, rt[0:12:28], wc[0:12:29], killed by a heavily wounded leocrotta 09:02 EvilHack updated (all servers) 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2788 09:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:41770 09:03 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1364, rt[0:05:51] 09:04 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 1456 points, T:1541, rt[0:07:31], wc[0:07:32], killed by a wounded soldier ant 09:05 amateurhour: slash'them ascension when ? :o 09:05 might still throw, but I've just done the invocation 09:05 <{Demo}2> had a dream last night I was playing slashthem 09:05 <{Demo}2> it got way too slexy 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2083 09:06 <{Demo}2> I couldn't even get to the stairs cause I kept getting knocked back by an invisible source 09:06 it doesn't really have a lot of slex in it really, honestly just seems like slash'em but with more stuff 09:06 doesn't have stair traps like slex for example 09:06 <{Demo}2> it was a monster in a closet 09:07 <{Demo}2> behind iron bars 09:07 <{Demo}2> casting whack spells at me but not printing when it did 09:07 lol how do you have so many wild dreams 09:07 aoei: you do realise that if I manage to ascend it I'll be pestering you to include it on the scoreboard :P 09:07 should hope for a splat :P 09:09 well I kinda need to do that anyway 09:09 might be good to have a push lol 09:11 <{Demo}2> the square I would step on that was los with the dude in the closet I could swear must have had a nasty trap on it, but also I knew it was slashthem and that doesn't have those 09:11 <{Demo}2> so I was confused 09:12 <@princessSpicycat> that's a very oddly specific dream 09:13 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1552, rt[0:07:59] 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2836 09:14 <{Demo}2> it was right before the one I woke up during 09:14 <{Demo}2> where I was pushing some spawners in a tunnel playing some game that doesn't even exist 09:15 does cthulhu have the amulet or does the high priest of moloch? 09:16 <{Demo}2> was trying to time some ability that does a fire blast with some ability that lets me drop a lava turret with being inside the tunnel with the spawners, which means I had to push in with it off cooldown 09:16 <{Demo}2> also had some ability that would spawn 3 flying acid dudes that would attack for me but it would spawn them above the tunnel if I used it while in it 09:17 <{Demo}2> managed to push into the tunnel after several attempts and finally got in with the lava turret off cooldown and summoned it and it messed up a couple spawners 09:17 really sucks that I've not found free action at all 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3735 points, T:3976, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 09:20 guessing cthulhu is immune to death zaps 09:20 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 5224 points, T:3149, [0:15:24], killed by a slightly wounded gray unicorn 09:21 IIRC it isn't 09:22 well here's hoping then 09:22 he is 09:22 ah 09:23 got the amulet though 09:23 \o/ 09:25 amateurhour: pog 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:4470 09:25 @v?oracle 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:43329 09:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2733 09:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:42520 09:31 even though gehennom is a fair bit longer, the lack of a mysterious force is nice 09:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Arbalester, on T:42522 09:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:42531 09:32 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:33 <{Demo}2> epi: replace the mysterious force with the mischievous force, every time you go down stairs there in gehennom there is a chance of an item from your inventory being teleported to somewhere random on the level you are entering 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5174 09:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:43620 09:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:43621 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 429 points, T:3354, killed by a dagger, while sleeping 09:34 Vorpal Blade suddenly vanishes! The Wizard of Yendor swings his long sword named Vorpal Blade! --More-- 09:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:42593 09:37 top 10 moments preceeding disaster 09:37 anything involving Vorpal Blade (or the Tsurugi) if you don't have it 09:37 amateurhour: "It breathes!" # ok yes that's angband 09:39 The black dragon breathes a disintegration blast! --More-- 09:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 2627712 points, T:42608, ascended 09:40 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zhakupov/nethack/dumplog/1609695027.nh.html 09:40 congrats zhakupov~ 09:41 Andrio: thanks 09:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5243 points, T:4919, killed by a wounded rock mole 09:44 hmm, I wonder if I can fly in water plane 09:44 seems like I can, woot 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 15435 points, T:5474, killed by an energy vortex, while sleeping 09:47 <{Demo}2> !gt @ 09:50 wow that astral 09:50 was pure ass 09:50 I am on the altar now, check out how nasty it is around me 09:50 !whereis amateurhour 09:50 are you chaotic? 09:50 nabru: [hdf-eu] amateurhour [slth]: No details available 09:51 I am chaotic 09:51 \o/ 09:51 congrats! 09:51 whoa 09:51 the left altar was easy, idk what happened in the middle one lol 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:6038 09:51 [hdf-eu] [slth] amateurhour (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 4873676 points, T:28143, ascended 09:51 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slashthem/dumplog/1614882831.slth.txt 09:51 woot 09:51 gg! 09:52 aoei work to do! 09:52 I am surprised that it was only 28k turns 09:52 I did a lot of optional stuff 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43937 09:52 50% asc rate? 09:53 probs not that high lol 09:53 idk 09:53 yeah, no :P 09:53 1/8 09:54 you are 1 and 2 on the high score list anyway :-) 09:54 amateurhour: Pog 09:54 haha, that previous one where I died was so stupid 09:54 I was like 'what is this weird 6 from warning in Demogorgon's lair?' 09:54 it was a giant shoggoth, and it pretty much instantly demolished me 09:54 it would have left me alone but I went and threw myself in its mouth like a singus 09:55 dingus* 09:55 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 3028 points, T:1862, rt[0:09:37], wc[0:28:39], killed by a wounded human mummy 09:55 the goal of doing a monk in each variant continues :) 09:56 not sure which next 09:56 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:26229 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7085 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:7515 10:07 FINALLY 10:08 nice one 10:08 after almost 2 entire wands of create monster 10:08 do you prefer it to excalibur then? 10:08 amateurhour, I like both 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:7598 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 226681 points, T:26772, killed by brainlessness 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:44586 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:44649 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:44667 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3925 10:16 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) wished for "+2 crystal helm", on T:35257 10:21 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 10:23 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the invisible Aphrodite, on T:4171 10:26 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 318 points, T:1402, killed by a wounded small mimic 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:9043 10:27 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 391 points, T:1328, killed by a dwarf 10:30 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 10:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed The Good Neighbor, on T:35687 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:9625 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:9626 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 517 points, T:1724, killed by a gas spore's explosion 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:45528 10:50 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:51 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 256 points, T:1056, killed by an uninjured bat 10:59 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2006 points, T:2548, killed by an ape 11:03 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 8 points, T:92, killed by a fox 11:04 I wish you could view the creatures vanquished list during the game 11:04 or at least &s 11:05 standard reasoning that that lets you cheat around zen conduct 11:05 "did I just kill a cockatrice? let's check the vanquished list" 11:05 ahh 11:05 goood point 11:06 probably several ways it helps with conducts 11:06 doesn't even need zen conduct, applies to anyone fighting while blinded really 11:06 yeah 11:06 It's just that when I go back to a game and a demon is not in their lair, sometimes i don't remember if I killed them or if they weren't there the frist time or they teleport etc. 11:07 and then i get surprised with the amulet 11:07 you can tell by whether *you* can teleport in their lair now 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:10737 11:07 iirc if they're off level but not dead, teleportation remains blocked 11:07 oh i see 11:08 (I wonder what happens if they escape the dungeon or you pay them off with a bribe...) 11:08 luxidream might know how it works 11:08 of course in evilhack it doesn't have this 11:08 yeah i'm definitely talking about evil 11:09 refuses to get shiny new good 3.7 features smh 11:09 i have had them escape the dungeon though i think 11:09 3.7 isn't out though right? 11:09 I see it on hardfought right now, that means it's out there 11:09 :) 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +4 pick-axe named lost mine", on T:10991 11:10 I wonder if +1 or +4 is the more rare wished enchantment 11:11 yeah you might as well go for 5 11:11 <@luxidream> aosdict: it’s barely a cheat, just search after you kill a monster 11:11 <@luxidream> also they only lock down tele on the level that they are on 11:11 !variant 11:11 amateurhour: notdnethack 11:11 !variant 11:11 amateurhour: slash 11:11 !variant 11:11 amateurhour: xnethack 11:11 <@luxidream> So if they leave somehow teleportation is ok 11:12 !rng splice | unnethack 11:12 amateurhour: splice 11:12 <@luxidream> Also if you’re concerned about it 11:12 <@luxidream> Why not disable #vanquished for zen players 11:12 <@luxidream> And let everyone else have it 11:14 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 11:14 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 11:14 <@luxidream> Actually you should be able to back out the monster that you killed from the number of experience points that you gained 11:15 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:15 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Rog Gul Mal Cha), 254 points, T:837, eliminated by a gnome lord 11:15 heya AntiGulp 11:15 looking forward to the thing tomorrow? 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 167 points, T:497, killed by a wounded brown mold 11:17 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Rog Gul Mal Cha), 18 points, T:126, struck down by a serval 11:17 didn't even realise I hadn't pressed monk 11:17 lol 11:17 pressed 'm' for monk out of habit 11:17 Yo! Definitely :) 11:18 <@luxidream> You should practice amateurhour 11:18 I should 11:18 but I probably won't 11:18 <@luxidream> antigulp has sub 30 11:18 this is amateurhour not professionalhour 11:18 I actually signed in to say that I’m stremaing speedrun race practice rn :) https://www.twitch.tv/antigulp 11:18 <@luxidream> Can you do that 😉 11:18 playing all scuffed is the name of the game 11:19 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 11:19 looks like you're offline 11:19 <@luxidream> The real amateurhour would win nethack in one hour 11:20 I wonder if Twitch is having a Moment or if AG's gone again 11:20 Correction. *now* I’m streaming. 11:20 (X) Doubt 11:21 ah you're there now 11:21 It tells me this is Sil-Q which I doubt 11:22 <@luxidream> she can't hear you over the speedrunning noises 11:23 TAKETY TAKETY TAK 11:23 typing WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM 11:23 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:24 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:1223, rt[0:03:59] 11:24 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 11:26 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1773, rt[0:06:10] 11:26 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:707 11:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1965 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 188 points, T:707, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:28 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 553 points, T:421, [0:01:44], killed by a nearly deceased kitten 11:28 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 11:31 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2964, rt[0:10:17] 11:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1490 points, T:2239, killed by a wounded rope golem 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:13587 11:33 finally, after 13 kiloturns... a temple 11:33 <@luxidream> amateurhour: you will be pleased to know that monk is actually top tier for this race 11:33 (minetown was orctown) 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) had a steel dagger entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:5900 11:36 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4148, rt[0:15:57] 11:37 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2056, rt[0:09:10] 11:41 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 11:44 did I not get the luckstone or something? where's the livelog? 11:44 maybe I picked up a flint 11:45 <@luxidream> do you have mintc 11:45 <@luxidream> might have been eaten by that 11:45 <@luxidream> or nevermind it livelogged starting the game 11:46 how do I check? 11:46 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:14497 11:47 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 11:47 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5671, rt[0:27:00] 11:48 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 16015 points, T:5684, rt[0:27:34], wc[0:27:35], choked on a food ration 11:50 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:3873, rt[0:21:34] 11:50 got a luckstone 11:50 why wasn't there a livelog? it was on one of the spots without a mimic 11:50 [hdf-eu] [seed] amateurhour (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12806 points, T:3874, [0:21:38], quit 11:50 <@luxidream> !lastgame amateurhour 11:50 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1589035969.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/setseed/dumplog/1615048124.seed.html 11:51 how do I check for current mintc setting? 11:51 <@luxidream> You completed the Gnomish Mines. 11:51 <@luxidream> yea that was luckstone 11:51 there we go I've done my mandatory practise 11:51 :) 11:51 monk op 11:52 <@luxidream> now beat my soko/mines wr 11:52 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:52 <@luxidream> :v 11:52 what's your soko/mines wr? 11:52 <@luxidream> 8:26 11:52 if a dwarf had dropped a pickaxe or the mattock I got was uncursed I could have beaten that practise time by a lot 11:52 but not by 13 mins probs 11:52 lol 11:54 <@luxidream> I had the soko of my life in that run 11:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1580 points, T:2180, killed by an uninjured little dog 12:04 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2034 points, T:1241, rt[0:08:29], wc[0:08:30], killed by a wounded rothe 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) had a pair of steel gauntlets entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:6876 12:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2541 12:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:14 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1030, rt[0:06:50] 12:15 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2797 points, T:1177, rt[0:07:57], wc[0:07:58], killed by a heavily wounded gnome lord, while praying 12:16 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the ghost of smzp, the former Adept, on T:2931 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3181 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2859 points, T:3445, killed by a wounded Woodland-elf 12:23 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3207 points, T:1190, [0:06:57], killed by a wounded ettin mummy 12:25 -!- zhakupov has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 297 points, T:1074, killed by an uninjured bat 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 285 points, T:1034, killed by a wounded giant bat 12:33 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 425 points, T:1142, killed by an uninjured giant bat 12:36 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1889, rt[0:08:05] 12:39 !setmintc 0 12:39 amateurhour: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for amateurhour set to 0 12:39 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1860 points, T:2286, rt[0:10:21], wc[0:10:22], killed by a wounded Woodland-elf 12:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1226 12:51 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 12:51 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 713 points, T:1493, rt[0:07:35], wc[0:08:04], killed by a wounded ghoul, while paralyzed by a monster 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 955 points, T:2032, killed by an enormous rat 12:55 <@nabru> !lastgame dbanethacker 12:55 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1615051964.evil.html 12:56 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Mirko, on T:6921 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1328 points, T:2957, killed by an uninjured dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:58 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:00 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 470 points, T:807, rt[0:05:12], wc[0:05:13], killed by a wounded dwarf 13:01 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 13:01 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Pri Hum Mal Law), 438 points, T:1096, killed by an uninjured giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 13:05 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:06 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1004, rt[0:05:24] 13:09 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law), 26725 points, T:7059, drowned in a pool of water by a tentacled atlantean 13:15 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4561 points, T:1861, rt[0:13:14], wc[0:13:27], killed by a wounded dwarf, while praying 13:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Nomad, on T:51193 13:25 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1001 points, T:887, [0:03:44], killed by a wounded giant spider, while praying 13:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1078 13:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2143 13:45 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:16014, rt[3:06:15] 13:45 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:16015, rt[3:06:20] 13:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4704 points, T:3425, poisoned by an orcish arrow 13:49 <@deathsushi> Are there any sort of “always wish for these” quest artifacts? 13:49 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:16274, rt[3:10:15] 13:49 <@Tone> Not really, quest artifacts aren't really great wishes unless you have extra wishes to spare 13:49 <@deathsushi> Ah k 13:50 <@deathsushi> Looking to inject some variety in, now that I’ve ascended twice and basically crushed this game 😄 13:50 <@deathsushi> But that’s what variants are for I suppose 13:50 <@Tone> The ones that are probably worth wishing for after getting all your basics like MR and reflection sorted out are the orb of fate and eye of the aethiopica, for half damage and mana regen 13:50 Zen Samurai 13:50 <@deathsushi> lol 13:51 <@deathsushi> Knight seems like a cool class to play next 13:51 (or there's that other roguelike with Sigmund) 13:51 <@deathsushi> I don’t see alot of people using him 13:51 <@Tone> Wizard, monk, ranger, maybe rogue are some of the roles that play a bit differently to other roles 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4811 points, T:5536, killed by a heavily wounded yeti 13:52 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:16426, rt[3:13:27] 13:52 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:16428, rt[3:13:35] 13:52 knight sounds great but then it kinda blows 13:53 <@deathsushi> Oh? 13:53 <@deathsushi> How come? 13:53 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by an exploding wand), on T:16449, rt[3:14:31] 13:53 really bad starting stats, a heavy af lance that a lot of people drop 13:53 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law), 451219 points, T:16451, rt[3:14:56], wc[19:02:23], killed by an uninjured marilith (with the Amulet), while paralyzed by a monster 13:53 then post quest you might be tempted to switch to spellcasting and dedicate some time to working on that 13:54 but by that point you're already ascension ready anyway so what's the point 13:54 <@deathsushi> So kind of a whole bunch of directions, and no clear coherent path 13:54 honestly seems like the best way to play knight is like a rubbish valk 13:54 pretend none of the knight stuff is real 13:55 Eh, jousting is a good way to cheese some stuff 13:55 <@luxidream> The horse is real 13:55 <@deathsushi> Or go ham and really make the most of it 13:55 stuff that doesn't even really need to be cheesed 13:55 <@luxidream> It’s better than a cat 13:55 <@luxidream> Use it 13:55 <@deathsushi> But accept it won’t be a speed run 13:55 <@luxidream> It’s your only advantage lol 13:55 <@deathsushi> Stupid vegetarian pets 13:56 <@deathsushi> Attacking shopkeepers 13:56 why does the lance even break 13:56 and why is it so heavy 13:56 :( 13:56 <@deathsushi> Do they clear this up in any variants? 13:56 some variants have an artifact lance that doesn't break, not sure if they're lighter 13:57 amateurhour: Well, cheesing Demogorgon doesn't hurt 13:57 I know at least one variant makes it more ergonomic to use the lance (FIQhack iirc?) 13:57 as in for applying it 13:57 <@luxidream> Dragonbane is lighter in FH 13:57 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 13:57 <@luxidream> Took a lot of complaining 13:58 <@deathsushi> Weird that the dev team hasn’t addressed these things when they’ve hit SO much else 13:58 <@deathsushi> (To their credit) 13:59 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 398 points, T:365, rt[0:01:43], wc[0:01:44], killed by an uninjured dwarf 13:59 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:16707 14:02 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law), 492 points, T:873, rt[0:02:51], wc[0:02:52], killed by an uninjured gnome lady 14:02 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:16718 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:16718 14:03 begone, lich 14:04 <@deathsushi> Zap 14:07 <{Demo}2> weird that the dt hasn't added a way to unwizard mode saves ; ( 14:07 lol 14:08 <@ChrisANG> I've had to do that a couple times. 14:08 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1069, rt[0:06:26] 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) stole 9 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Tringanoe's delicatessen, on T:10400 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law), 17192 points, T:10416, killed by a watch captain, while sleeping 14:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Bar Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:28069 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3616 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3757 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pony, on T:3848 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3921 14:19 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1924, rt[0:17:21] 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:18517 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:18522 14:23 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 3565 points, T:4166, killed by an uninjured dwarf 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided green slimes, on T:18532 14:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:18684 14:26 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3216, rt[0:24:30] 14:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2278 14:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:161026 14:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Death, on T:161091 14:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Lugribossk of Ilsensine, on T:161126 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3371 14:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Famine, on T:161214 14:38 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:39 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law), 13714 points, T:4927, rt[0:37:06], wc[0:37:07], killed by an uninjured human mummy 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3596 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3724 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 daggers on an altar, on T:3731 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3138 14:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 47656341 points, T:161286, ascended, having saved the future https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Disruptor/dnethack/dumplog/1612578039.dnh.txt 14:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2410 points, T:3435, killed by a wounded werewolf 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3163 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:22012 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] priyavt (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 366 points, T:1272, killed by a wounded iguana 14:57 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Bar Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gold golem, on T:30234 14:59 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 15:00 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1956 15:01 <@deathsushi> What is that request even about? Basically "Let me do wizard mode to get to a certain point, then, can you please let me 'un-wizard mode' it, so that I can finish the game like a normal win"? 15:01 No - please unwizmode it so other people can play it "straight". 15:02 <@deathsushi> What, like other people can... pick up my saved game and play it? 15:02 If you accept the premise that one can under no circumstances do any programming at all, this is the best way to set up a custom scenario. 15:02 That's exactly what the aim is, yes. 15:02 <@deathsushi> Oh I see 15:02 <@deathsushi> Kind of like creating a special seed, in a way 15:02 <@deathsushi> But without seeding and doing any of that 15:03 <@deathsushi> Kind of jumping to a certain point, and then that becomes the seed 15:03 Yes. Except in an insanely difficult way. 15:03 <@deathsushi> Would that be so difficult? 15:03 <@deathsushi> I haven't looked at the source, but wouldn't that simply be turning off a bit? 15:03 <@Shadow_Rider> That would be dope 15:03 <@Shadow_Rider> Lots of cool applications 15:03 Uh - "one can under no circumstances do any programming at all" 15:04 <@deathsushi> I udnerstand, but since they're asking the developer's to implement it, I'm talking about how hard it would be to implement 15:04 <@deathsushi> (I thought that's what you were referring to when you said "insanely difficult") 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4027 15:04 Apostrophe. No, I mean that trying to do this without doing any programming is insane. 15:04 <@deathsushi> Why? 15:05 <@deathsushi> Maybe I'm not following you — are you sayign trying to implement a un-wiz-mode feature, without any programming, would be insane? 15:05 Uh... didn't you just suggest that unwizmoding a save would involve toggling a single bit? Does that sound easier than persuading the Dev Team to process your wizmode saves for you? 15:06 I feel like we're talking at cross purposes. 15:06 <@deathsushi> Yah I think so 15:06 <@deathsushi> I'm trying to understand what you're saying, and I think I'm getting it wrong 15:07 MBM wants to create a custom game state, and save the game in that state for others to play. 15:07 <@deathsushi> Yah 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 774 points, T:4268, killed by a slightly wounded rabid rat 15:07 This would be pretty easy given a little programming. 15:07 <@deathsushi> Yes 15:07 But, he is convinced he can never do any programming. 15:07 This makes the job insanely difficult. 15:07 <@deathsushi> So he's making a request to the dev's to implement it 15:07 <@deathsushi> Right? 15:07 No. 15:07 <@deathsushi> Ah, I thin that's where I'm going wrong then 15:08 He instead tries to do the whole setup with NetHack's primitive wizard mode 15:08 No, he's requesting the devs to take his save game file, do the programming/hexediting/debugger magic to turn off wizard mode themselves, then send him back the save game file such that if opened in NetHack it will no longer be in wizard mode. 15:09 <@deathsushi> Right 15:09 Many of the problems he encounters (like "a nymph stole my wand of teleportation with 100 charges" could _also_ be overcome with a little programming, even if one is in general using wizmode. 15:09 He's not requesting that they implement a "un-wizmode any game" feature. 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3283 15:09 <@deathsushi> aosdict: Oh I see 15:09 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha), 7150 points, T:2488, slaughtered by a soldier ant 15:09 And yes, asking the Dev Team to do this is one manifestation of how he's doing everything the insanely hard way. 15:09 <@deathsushi> Well, I think that would be kind of a cool thing to implement, even if it was very abusable, or ruined the rogue-i-ness of the game a little 15:10 <@deathsushi> But implementing a "create this wizmode save as a seed" or something like that, would be kind of cool. Basically ou could use wizmode kind of like a level editor 15:10 The extremely broad strokes of the idea (custom mostly non-random nethack adventure module) are fine. 15:10 deathsushi> well, it's really very easy to make the game unwizmode saves if you want that. 15:10 i understood the nymph with the wand of tp to be unawareness of blessed genocide * in wizmode 15:10 <@deathsushi> Pinkbeast: right 15:10 I think "seed" is the wrong term to throw around here. 15:10 so no programming at all 15:10 <@deathsushi> Yah, I'm using it analogously 15:10 it's s set state. 15:10 <@deathsushi> As opposed to it being the actual same thing as a seed 15:10 <@deathsushi> Yes 15:10 seed implies you can get that state via enough random attempts. this is terraforming the game into a state it can't generate as 15:11 <@deathsushi> Oh, he wants to create an impossible state? 15:11 <@deathsushi> Ah, well, you mean like wherever he saved the game 15:11 well things like "tear down medusa and replace it with something else", yes 15:11 <@deathsushi> Since a seed always starts you at lvl 1, for example 15:11 <@deathsushi> Oh got it 15:11 <@deathsushi> Theoretically, I think the analogy of a seed still works here 15:12 if you like, but it's not what a developer thinks of as a seed 15:13 <@deathsushi> Sure 15:13 I hope they release it 15:13 this is a semantic issue not really bearing on what he wants 15:13 <@deathsushi> Yah it's fine 15:13 amateurhour: it will be epic and unbalanced and terrible and I am here for it 15:13 <@deathsushi> I like the idea anyhow 15:14 <@deathsushi> And I see why it's regarded as loopy 15:14 well who wouldn't? marker shops ftw 15:14 there is nothing wrong with someone making a loopy nethack 15:14 <@deathsushi> hotraxxa: I think that would get tiresome quickly 15:14 i mean we all accept amy right? 15:14 it is a tenuous peace 15:15 <@luxidream> it reminds me of the mario maker levels that are just loads of bosses 15:15 you find it tiresome, others find it a hoot 15:15 The methodology is the loopy bit; in the time he's been trying to do this with wizmode he could have had The C Programming Language tattooed on his entire body 15:15 you are not calling the state he wants as loopy? 15:15 and even set up an array of mirrors to read any part of it on demand 15:16 hothraxxa: Well, given MBM it'd probably be a really bad design, but the fundamental idea of a saved state to challenge other players isn't loopy, no. 15:16 i can't imagine the effort that would go into what he describes 15:16 hothraxxa: It's not conventional for nethack, but the general idea of the adventure isn't itself that insane. Most of the insanity derives from the hoops he's having to jump through because he's doing it all in wizard mode 15:17 And a wizmode that won't even let you do things like freeze time or directly move monsters around 15:17 see i would argue that since it's nethack, he's entitled to any design he likes 15:17 <@deathsushi> Yah, exactly — it opens the door up for non-programmers to build out things further 15:17 <@deathsushi> Pinkbeast: not being able to freeze time would be an issue 15:17 <@deathsushi> I mean he basically wants "World/level editor" rather than unwizmoding saves 15:17 hothraxxa: I mean, he's _entitled_ to do what he likes, I just think it'll probably be bad 15:18 i would agree that i would find it bad but if he enjoys it that's all that should matter 15:18 deathsushi: and likewise adding extensions to the existing level description language would be a good way to do that 15:20 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:22 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1286 15:22 The problem there is the level description language is based around randomization and especially randomized filler levels. If he wanted a fixed dungeon, he'd have to modify things so that every level was defined separately. 15:23 this sounds like a job for magicbymcauley! 15:23 wow that's some bs 15:23 walk into izchak's to check the candles 15:23 one of the candles is above a trapdoor 15:23 The adjacent object falls through the trap door. You owe Izchak 27 zorkmids for goods lost. 15:23 what kind of scam operation is this, Izchak???? 15:24 <@luxidream> is this slex 15:24 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha) stole 27 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Izchak's lighting store, on T:1363 15:24 <@luxidream> why are there traps in the shop 15:24 this is splicehack 15:24 he followed me through the hole... 15:25 <@luxidream> uhh 15:25 <@luxidream> pay him off? 15:25 just pay the man 15:25 I did yeah, he's disappeared now 15:25 <@deathsushi> Izchak, really vindictive for that one candle 15:25 <@deathsushi> Hey guy? What about your shop? You have a bunch of other stuff there 15:25 <@deathsushi> I call entrapment 15:25 i would like to know if he is back in his shop 15:25 if I survive to get back there I'll let you know 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 5847 points, T:5995, killed by a heavily wounded panther 15:27 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 15:27 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became the Grandmaster of Balance, on T:59707 15:29 he is in his shop 15:31 -!- theRaisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:32 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 8 points, T:130, killed by a falling rock 15:34 it's a miracle! 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 184 points, T:623, killed by a falling rock 15:39 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha), 4328 points, T:2043, killed by a wand 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1699 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:27905 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:27907 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1008 points, T:1558, killed by a wounded giant ant 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:55181 15:52 <@malor> Congratulations Disruptor! 15:53 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha), 1955 points, T:1102, quit 15:55 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:10952, rt[1:26:01] 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 756787 points, T:28971, killed by an uninjured vampire lord, while paralyzed by a monster 15:59 rip 16:00 rip 16:01 curl 16:02 rip & tear ;_; 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2795 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3054 16:10 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:12541, rt[1:41:07] 16:17 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:20 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2996 points, T:3334, killed by an uninjured snake 16:24 !booze 16:24 * Beholder passes nabru a tall glass of moonshine, conjured by Rodney at 368 Kelvin. 16:29 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:34 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1430 16:34 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha), 2256 points, T:1464, eliminated by a raven 16:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) wished for "+3 crystal helm", on T:38768 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1343 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3551 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1397 16:46 <@deathsushi> Is it a fluke when I dig down into a fountain with a pickaxe, it dries up, and doesn't create any pools? 16:46 <@deathsushi> Or is there a reason in particular that would be happening? 16:46 it failed on every roll that would have made a pool 16:47 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "3 cursed genocide", on T:14378, rt[2:18:07] 16:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1139, rt[0:02:31] 16:49 Hi 16:49 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 16:49 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:14494, rt[2:20:33] 16:50 <@nabru> Hello 16:50 Hello @nabru, Welcome to #hardfought 16:50 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1444, rt[0:04:02] 16:50 How's you 16:50 and aoei 16:51 I'm fine (: 16:51 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5313 points, T:2756, killed by a monster (invisible fighter lich), while praying unsuccessfully 16:52 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:14646, rt[2:22:40] 16:52 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:14647, rt[2:22:41] 16:52 !alstgame RohoDragon 16:52 !lastgame RohoDragon 16:52 -!- ASCIIPhilia has joined #hardfought 16:52 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/R/RohoDragon/slex/dumplog/1615054309.slex.txt 16:54 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:14711, rt[2:24:48] 16:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2230, rt[0:07:44] 16:57 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:4313, rt[0:10:14] 16:57 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:58 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:14837, rt[2:29:02] 16:58 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:14837, rt[2:29:03] 16:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:7068, rt[0:12:05] 17:01 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (energy vortices), on T:8144, rt[0:14:48] 17:02 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed ring of polymorph control", on T:8155, rt[0:15:12] 17:02 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) averted death (petrified by a wounded chickatrice), on T:15561, rt[2:33:27] 17:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Medusa, on T:39233 17:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:9308, rt[0:16:32] 17:04 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:06 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10211, rt[0:19:30] 17:09 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:15838, rt[2:40:19] 17:10 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:15942, rt[2:41:22] 17:10 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:15948, rt[2:41:34] 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 806 points, T:1619, killed by a wounded rabid rat 17:12 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:16037, rt[2:43:07] 17:14 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12591, rt[0:27:50] 17:16 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:16280, rt[2:47:12] 17:16 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:16283, rt[2:47:17] 17:20 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:13563, rt[0:33:50] 17:22 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 17:22 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:14213, rt[0:35:58] 17:23 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "holy greased fixed bag of holding", on T:14218, rt[0:36:16] 17:23 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha), 440 points, T:761, eliminated by a gnome lord 17:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:57400 17:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:57402 17:25 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 243 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:17077, rt[2:56:35] 17:27 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 134 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:17171, rt[2:57:57] 17:27 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:17191, rt[2:58:29] 17:30 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "holy greased wand of polymorph", on T:15162, rt[0:43:28] 17:35 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:18146, rt[3:05:44] 17:36 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:15602, rt[0:49:27] 17:36 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:18303, rt[3:07:28] 17:38 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 17:40 <@nabru> !whereis HastyGlord 17:40 @nabru: [hdf-us] HastyGlord [seed]: (Mon Hum Fem Law) T:259 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 17:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:56181 17:41 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:16378, rt[0:54:17] 17:41 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16441, rt[0:54:39] 17:41 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:18549, rt[3:12:26] 17:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:18560, rt[3:13:22] 17:44 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1201, rt[0:05:59] 17:46 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:18644, rt[3:17:15] 17:47 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:18670, rt[3:18:35] 17:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Law) averted death (killed by uninjured Pestilence), on T:18681, rt[3:19:18] 17:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Law), 509059 points, T:18681, [3:19:20], killed by uninjured Pestilence (with the Amulet), while helpless 17:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 1051 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:17527, rt[1:02:14] 17:50 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2837 points, T:1585, rt[0:10:34], wc[0:11:06], killed by a wounded ettin mummy, while praying 17:50 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 17:51 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4945 points, T:1293, killed by a monster (katoiseful) 17:53 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:18474, rt[1:07:01] 17:55 !lastgame Stella 17:55 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1614535650.seed.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/setseed/dumplog/1615058959.seed.html 17:55 :/ 17:56 i was right next to the altar 17:56 lawful one, but i put on HoOA already 17:56 rip :/ 17:56 but then the stupid high priest kept getting in the way 17:56 and ants 17:56 and then pesty was there who i killed again but i forgot the corpse was on the altar so when i tried to teleport monsters off the altar i revived pesty 17:56 and got done in 17:57 epic 17:57 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:19055, rt[1:11:02] 17:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:19062, rt[1:11:26] 17:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:02 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2181 18:02 that blasts me 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:13057 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:13063 18:03 you got a gift that blasts you? 18:03 lol 18:03 yeah 18:03 weird 18:03 :( 18:03 aoei: D: 18:03 Umbire: epic death tho 18:03 !rng run it back | give up 18:03 aoei: give up 18:03 Fuck you bot 18:03 !8ball am i gonna do what i want anyway? 18:03 aoei: Most likely 18:04 Yeah that's what I thought you said. 18:04 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:19635, rt[1:17:17] 18:04 lol lux is blazing through 18:04 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:19686, rt[1:17:29] 18:05 I've found 5 different bags in splicehack so far 18:06 Where did EvilHack get the check for non-harmful sacrifice gifts from 18:06 on that note 18:06 when you say non-harmful do you mean in a specific way? 18:06 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:19841, rt[1:19:45] 18:06 I'd say fumbling gloves are harmful 18:07 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:19928, rt[1:20:43] 18:07 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:19932, rt[1:20:47] 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:13087 18:07 In a sense of "elves don't get gifts made of iron" 18:09 -!- aoei is now known as Stella 18:09 !setmintc 18:09 Stella: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for stella removed. 18:09 -!- Stella is now known as aoei 18:09 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 18:09 oh wait 18:09 ok no polykit scumming i guess 18:11 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 39 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:20780, rt[1:24:56] 18:12 so that luck blade gift not only blasted me, it means I can't pray for food 18:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:20806, rt[1:25:18] 18:12 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha), 8639 points, T:2973, exterminated by a chicken, while fainted from lack of food 18:12 amateurhour: Sounds like your god's dropping you a hint 18:13 maybe I should stop trying to do foodless, which I've never done before, in a variant which I've never done before 18:13 but ghouls can only eat rotten corpses, and I would prefer to do vegan on a monk 18:13 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:21237, rt[1:26:41] 18:13 -!- dtype has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:21263, rt[1:27:11] 18:14 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1498, rt[0:05:16] 18:15 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 18:15 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1717, rt[0:13:14] 18:18 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:22185, rt[1:31:12] 18:18 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:22186, rt[1:31:14] 18:19 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Tha Vam Mal Law), 14168 points, T:4042, quit 18:20 tikes 18:20 yikes* 18:21 watching luxis game atm, air plane bit nuts 18:23 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:22477, rt[1:36:16] 18:23 he needs to remember to put on the eyes again if that's his MR 18:23 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a wounded Angel of Moloch), on T:22482, rt[1:36:36] 18:23 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 222897 points, T:22484, rt[1:36:44], wc[1:36:48], killed by a heavily wounded Angel of Moloch (with the Amulet) 18:23 F 18:23 rip 18:23 :'( 18:23 :( 18:23 <@luxidream> oh the eyes fell off 18:24 <@luxidream> that's why I was taking so much 18:24 they fell off when you switched to air elemental 18:24 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 6729 points, T:2917, rt[0:21:46], wc[0:33:20], killed by a wounded shocking sphere 18:24 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 18:24 you picked them up but didn't wear them when reverted back 18:24 <@luxidream> dumb 18:24 <@luxidream> just 1 mistake rip 18:24 that air plane was nuts 18:24 <@luxidream> i thought the eyes would stay on like in 3.4.3 18:24 <@luxidream> evidently they don't 18:24 [hdf-us] [seed] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [chosen seed: NabruRocks] 18:24 were the lightning bolts from air plane shenanigans? 18:24 <@luxidream> i could've just picked vamp lord and ascended easily 18:24 <@luxidream> yes 18:25 was crazy how many wands you lost to it 18:25 <@luxidream> fun game though 18:25 <@luxidream> I had no mapping 18:25 like BAM goodbye 5 wands 18:25 <@luxidream> so I just ran through gehennom as a xorn 18:25 I loved the xorning you did for asc run 18:25 <@luxidream> i spent the entire game as a xorn 18:25 <@luxidream> pretty much 18:25 hahaha that's awesome 18:26 I only tuned in during the ascension run 18:26 <@luxidream> it's actually a fire monk strat because of the eyes 18:26 <@luxidream> and no armor 18:26 <@luxidream> i need to do that again lol 18:26 wait this must be a dream 18:26 luxidream enjoying monk 18:26 not saying it's pleb tier like arc and healer 18:26 can't be real 18:27 <@luxidream> oh I used mino a lot too 18:28 <@luxidream> but that can't phase through walls 18:28 <@luxidream> so I stopped using it after a while 18:28 dnh has an epic polyform called invidiak 18:28 phases like xorn, gets shadow blade extra attacks, and is medium so can wear armour normally 18:29 <@luxidream> sounds pretty boss 18:30 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 18:30 surprised you picked chaotic 18:30 I thought you preferred lawful 18:30 Chaotic gets less force bullshit IIRC 18:31 but then I think 3.7 force got nerfed anyway or w/e 18:31 <@luxidream> think I randomed it 18:31 o 18:31 <@luxidream> wasn't planning on using a sword though 18:31 luxidream wishes for hooa right at the start of the ascension run so lawful vs chaotic doesn't really matter 18:31 on the force 18:31 <@luxidream> after the buff fists are probably just fine 18:31 <@luxidream> chaotic can luck into stormbringer which can help a lot 18:31 <@luxidream> but odds of that are low 18:32 I reckon mkot is worth an early wish for 18:32 don't think oof is 18:33 just tele control out of the gate without needing xlvl 17 18:33 <@luxidream> oof is better now 18:33 <@luxidream> infinite levelport is good 18:33 <@luxidream> and crystal ball buff 18:34 hmm, more useful than early tele control? 18:34 <@luxidream> what do you do with early telecont? 18:34 <@luxidream> how is it better than just digging to castle 18:34 yeet myself over to the castle 18:34 oh true 18:35 the slashthem asc I did earlier was freeactionless because I couldn't find the ring 18:36 just thought you'd appreciate that 18:36 <@luxidream> i polypiled my free action that game 18:37 <@luxidream> and then found another one 18:37 well now how the turn tables 18:39 how was kaen? 18:39 @luxidream do you have seeds made for tomorrow? 18:39 don't post them here I'll cheat 18:40 ^ fact 18:40 i wouldnt make them available until a min or so from start time 18:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5509 points, T:5043, [0:32:49], killed by a shattered potion 18:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 18:42 <@luxidream> give me a sec 18:42 aoei: shouldn't you be drinking water and/or sleeping? 18:42 <@luxidream> these won't be vetted whatsoever 18:42 i am doing both 18:42 <@luxidream> so have fun with orctown 18:43 luxi email them to admin@hardfought.org 18:43 <@luxidream> will do 18:43 no rush just sometime before go time tomorrow 18:43 what time does it start again? 18:43 buypepsi, sponsoredbyhardfought, itsorctownyougotstennod 18:43 <@luxidream> 12 pm est 18:43 oops leaked some of them sry 18:43 ok 18:44 and "sendallyourmoneytoK2" 18:44 <@luxidream> reddit guy hasn't gotten back to me in the last couple days 18:44 <@luxidream> so it may just be amateurhour, bouquet, antigulp 18:44 <@luxidream> which is fine 18:44 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:45 still not alphabetical but somehow I like this ordering 18:45 <@luxidream> but I need everyone to idle a little early tomorrow so I can set up my stream lol 18:45 This is a beginner race to Sokoclear, right? 18:45 and luckstone 18:45 <@luxidream> clear soko, get luckstone, quit 18:45 <@luxidream> or get luckstone, clear soko, quit 18:45 Alright, and it has to be the Mines one specifically I wager 18:45 <@luxidream> no need to escape the dungeon 18:46 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 385 points, T:1016, [0:03:44], killed by a boulder 18:46 shit 18:46 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 18:46 <@luxidream> also yeah you can't just wish for a luckstone 18:46 <@luxidream> that would be dumb 18:46 if you manage to quit first then get the other achievements that'll be impressive 18:46 so I vote that counts too 18:46 I was thinking more lucking into one before mines 18:46 rather than wishes lol 18:47 200iq strat for catacombs could be to wish for a luckstone just to have one i'd 18:47 id'd before stepping on teletraps 18:47 <@luxidream> or uh 18:47 2000iq more like 18:47 <@luxidream> just wish for MR 18:47 no no 18:47 but that's not as funny 18:47 this is a truly elite strategy 18:48 <@luxidream> i wonder how much time wishing for eota saves though 18:48 <@luxidream> maybe someone will get to try it 18:48 for the monk I'll do neutral just for that small chance 18:48 <@luxidream> i did not specify the alignment/race of your valkyrie so you could play neutral 18:49 yeah but excalibur is op 18:49 and dwarf > human 18:49 <@luxidream> true 18:50 <@luxidream> from my practice runs valk is a little worse than monk here 18:50 <@luxidream> because it needs some extra armor and some time to get excal 18:50 I thought that'd be the case honestly 18:50 you just need a helm and boots for 0ac, and martial arts is infinitely accurate 18:50 (on all the early game monsters) 18:51 <@luxidream> if you're too reckless you can still get stomped by a mumak or something 18:51 <@luxidream> but it's pretty straightforward 18:51 healing is probs the best for it, but sleep isn't bad either 18:52 I still think protection blows 18:52 <@luxidream> for this race yeah 18:52 <@luxidream> for normal games people just forget to use protection 18:52 <@luxidream> you can spam it before tough fights and get like -8 ac lol 18:52 i wish it was the same in vanilla as dnh, it just gives a flat -10 to ac there in one cast 18:53 <@luxidream> ok that's pretty busted 18:53 Excessively 18:53 none of that stacking it up to max potential bs 18:53 but yeah protection spellstacking is overlooked a lot 18:53 because it's ass 18:53 wears off in like 0 turns 18:53 <@luxidream> it's useful 18:53 <@luxidream> just like I said, no one uses it 18:53 I don't want to cast like 3x for like 6 ac to see it disappear immediately 18:54 <@luxidream> 6 ac is a lot 18:54 just give me sleep or healing instead 18:54 esp. in early game 18:54 <@luxidream> that's like wearing mithril for a little while 18:54 sounds like a "why number not go up" problem slightly :B 18:54 <@luxidream> obviously it's not as good as sleep or healing 18:54 I know I've jinxed it now so all the seeds will be protection 18:54 lol 18:54 yeah but it still has valid use 18:54 <@luxidream> i will maliciously select 30 protection seeds 18:54 -!- ASCIIPhilia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:54 if you do then expect an 18:54 # i am malding 18:55 <@luxidream> I'm not gonna vet these lol 18:55 <@luxidream> if you get a lot of protection that's karma 18:55 true 18:55 [hdf-eu] [slshm] luisjo (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 5085 points, T:3292, killed by something while blind and helpless 18:55 every time I complain about the protection spell 1 seed changes the monk starting spell 18:56 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2134, rt[0:10:06] 18:57 -!- ASCIIPhilia has joined #hardfought 18:57 YASI: Wacky NetHack Races where each person calls a role and tries to race the same seed with them 18:58 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2517 points, T:2232, [0:11:53], killed by an uninjured giant mimic 18:58 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 18:58 <@luxidream> brogue does weekly seed tournaments 18:58 ooh 18:59 <@luxidream> that'd be something cool to consider in the future I think 18:59 <@luxidream> it's hard to speedrun with just 1 attempt though 19:00 <@luxidream> which would make the dominant strategy slow playing to win lol 19:01 @luxidream to me about dragonbane you mean? 19:01 <@luxidream> yes 19:01 while there has definitely been features where a lot of complaining helped, I don't really recall dragonbane weight change being one of them 19:02 <@luxidream> it took a lot of whining before you reduced the weight and gave an additional saddle 19:02 item destruction, on the other hand 19:02 actually I don't think the saddle thing was complained about at all 19:02 <@luxidream> well that was how you chose to address the issue 19:02 but just me figuring "well if you're using this, you should perhaps get a spare saddle too" 19:02 <@luxidream> I just complained that it was completely useless 19:02 <@luxidream> which it was 19:02 <@luxidream> which it was 19:02 I thought the change was a result of MTF playing knight? 19:03 iirc he got dragonbane but didn't get much use of it due to it being ridiculously heavy 19:03 so I reduced the wt a bit 19:03 <@luxidream> a 180 weight brick polearm 19:03 <@luxidream> maybe he complained too 19:03 Yeah that's a lot for an artifact lance 19:03 <@luxidream> but I was playing law priest or something 19:04 <@luxidream> and was trying to unrestrict long sword 19:04 <@luxidream> and was pleasantly surprised by a useless lance instead 19:04 IIRC I didn't change wt of lances at all, but added a new artifact power 19:04 that reduces the item weight to half 19:04 <@luxidream> umbire: that's how much regular lances weigh 19:04 Huh. 19:05 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1866 points, T:1253, [0:06:56], poisoned by an orcish arrow 19:05 I haven't used one in literally forever so I never thought to check 19:05 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:48563 19:05 cfe420eb877622c52563e8f34017b953b6501d9e 19:05 is when I changed dragonbane 19:05 2017 19:05 apparently 19:05 <@luxidream> huh 19:05 <@luxidream> that was a long time ago 19:06 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Ana Ill Mal Law), 1303 points, T:1463, quit 19:06 I went on a bane buffing spree in general during that time 19:07 on October 7th, I made Dragonbane into a lance that confers reflection 19:07 on November 7th, I made it the first sac gift for Knights 19:07 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 4550 points, T:1643, [0:12:47], killed by a wounded troll 19:07 <@luxidream> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/319364697826787329/816780313005916180/nethack_071.png 19:07 and finally on November 28th, I reduced the weight of dragonbane 19:07 <@luxidream> this picture of old astral makes me wonder if ogres were ever a more relevant monster in nethack's history 19:07 so I'm still not convinced there was all that much complaining done with it 19:07 <@luxidream> enough to warrant an ogre smashing hammer 19:09 either that, or it's possible that I didn't see your complaints about it at all and instead it was @mtf playing that got my attention wrt that artifact :P 19:12 Oh yeah, Luxi 19:12 Busy rewriting the Knight page into an actual Knight-based strategy page and not a glorified riding ad 19:12 Any tidbits I should keep in mind? 19:13 experienced Knight players I can point to 19:13 etc. 19:13 I can handle some of the "obvious" stuff and glean from other articles as well but I'll need help with the finer points 19:14 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2198, rt[0:09:16] 19:14 <@luxidream> I'm not sure if streakers keep the lance 19:14 <@luxidream> I usually leave it behind because of how heavy it is 19:15 <@luxidream> the horse is a really good pet regardless of whether or not you choose to ride 19:15 It is 19:15 Leaving sections for the pet but trying not to make the article revolve around it 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 532 points, T:1540, killed by an uninjured garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:16 <@luxidream> although knights have excalibur, they have relatively poor strength and constitution 19:17 knight bad 19:17 /article 19:17 * Umbire swats amateurhour 19:17 <@luxidream> so they won't have a lot of hp and may struggle to carry a lot of items when not riding 19:17 Mhm 19:17 <@luxidream> casting with mmom is pretty much entirely irrelevant 19:17 is that picture really what astral used to look like? 19:17 <@luxidream> that was 3.0 astral 19:18 <@luxidream> it has some dragons and stuff in the other rooms 19:18 <@luxidream> so really easy 19:18 <@luxidream> there were no planes back then so you would go straight upstairs to this 19:18 huh 19:20 <@luxidream> you want to have MR for ixoth, he's really annoying 19:20 <@luxidream> seriously don't wish for kirin figurines anymore 19:21 First is a given, second is a good pointer 19:21 Hmm 19:21 given how heavy the lance is... 19:21 didn't you mention that STR/CON gets rerolled or pushed up to a minimum in the event you'd end up encumbered by your initial rolls 19:21 or something like that 19:21 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 19:22 <@luxidream> yes, so you might start the game on the edge of being burdened 19:22 <@luxidream> but never burdened outright 19:22 <@luxidream> it adds to your strength, then your con if that wasn't enough somehow 19:23 Right 19:24 "The Knight's starting lance is a useful means of ranged attack, but is also very heavy - Knights will not start with high STR and/or CON as consistently as other roles like [[Valkyrie]] and [[Samurai]], and as such may struggle with encumberment early on. Stashing the lance may be a good idea once you have found another reliable means of ranged attack." 19:25 ^ @luxidream 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49289 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:49297 19:26 How's that just as a start 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:49317 19:27 <@luxidream> hm 19:28 <@luxidream> what ranged attack are you using as a knight anyway 19:28 Doing sword bits rn but as far as the lance what could I build on 19:28 wands, throwing daggers and such 19:28 just to get around annoying passives and whatnot 19:29 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 625 points, T:1482, killed by a wounded giant spider 19:30 <@luxidream> I’d just say consider stashing it 19:30 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:30 <@luxidream> Otherwise people may read that and think they have to gather up and train daggers before abandoning the lance 19:31 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5406 points, T:4574, [0:26:03], killed by a heavily wounded winter wolf cub 19:31 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:32 could just as easily throw rocks or spare darts 19:32 <@luxidream> well, that isn’t exactly a reliable means of ranged attack 19:33 fwiw, if a critter rates me not just meleeing it, i usually use wands 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:49525 19:33 or if i find it, force bolt 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:49527 19:33 i can't think of any time i've thrown a rock 19:33 [hdf-eu] [slex] tkirkby (Elm Red Fem Cha), 987 points, T:762, killed by an elven arrow 19:33 If I don't have any choice, I throw rocks esp. against floating eyes 19:34 I default to rock throwing as a wizard until I can get some dece armor and/or weapons 19:34 i spose i've thrown a few orcish daggers at floating eyes yeh 19:34 not to say the starting staff ain't good 19:34 rocks are cheap and cheerful so 19:35 more wanting to avoid melee to begin with 19:36 @luxidream >Stashing the lance in favor of an alternative may be a good idea. 19:36 That still risk tricking people into dagger collecting 19:39 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1623, rt[0:07:56] 19:39 Maybe if... 19:40 "Stashing the lance may be a good idea, especially if you find a [[wand]] or other reliable ranged option." 19:40 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 718 points, T:1762, killed by a wounded rothe 19:40 ^may work, communicates "lance is heavy and you won't wanna lug it around that much" while not making "replacing" it sound necessary 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Champion, on T:49654 19:43 <@luxidream> That sounds good 19:43 Coo 19:43 Now onto sword stuff 19:43 Going for Excal is a relative no-brainer 19:44 but my brain is saying "what about a backup sword in case it takes a while" 19:44 I already feel like that might be overpreparing some but I wanna be certain of that one way or another 19:45 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:45 !tell amateurhour https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Endgame_(3.0) 19:45 amateurhour shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, spicycebolla. 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:49728 19:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2711 points, T:2680, [0:17:12], killed by a slightly wounded soldier ant 19:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 19:49 Go team a! 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:49940 19:55 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 431 points, T:1151, killed by an uninjured manes 19:56 <{Demo}2> fake? 19:57 -!- dmikemiller has joined #hardfought 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:49973 19:57 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2148, rt[0:09:23] 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) bribed Dispater with 1611 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:13630 20:01 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Blo Vam Mal Law), 1423 points, T:936, quit 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of levitation", on T:51483 20:01 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1173 points, T:3234, quit 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 cloak of protection", on T:51497 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 boots of speed", on T:51507 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:50022 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed wand of death", on T:51514 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:50024 20:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 404 points, T:754, killed by a wounded hobbit 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:50036 20:10 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:50069 20:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] tkirkby (Ana Dro Mal Neu), 173288 points, T:13338, killed by a warrior changed 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) murdered Sirius, her faithful little dog, on T:1001 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 189 points, T:1001, killed by a gas spore's explosion 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4968 points, T:5228, killed by an uninjured giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:15 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:15 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5188, rt[0:27:21] 20:17 -!- dmikemiller has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:50173 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 1815764 points, T:50174, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1614797974.nh.html 20:19 GG ohG 20:20 gg oh6! 20:22 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] UnknownUser (Kni Hum Mal Law), 489 points, T:2542, killed by an uninjured earth elemental 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Heroine, on T:53072 20:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:30 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 20:30 -!- dmikemiller has joined #hardfought 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1394 points, T:2556, killed by a heavily wounded giant ant 20:35 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:14636 20:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:14638 20:38 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 30013 points, T:9268, [0:49:44], killed by a heavily wounded gray unicorn 20:40 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:14761 20:44 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Occ Vam Mal Law), 173 points, T:332, killed by a monster (nonstandard kobold) 20:48 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1111, rt[0:07:38] 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:54616 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:2769 21:06 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:14931 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:14932 21:07 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 6251 points, T:6293, [0:27:01], killed by a wounded dingo 21:08 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3512 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:56740 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:56741 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3849 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:56956 21:13 <@deathsushi> I thougth they did away with minesflayers in 3.7? 21:14 -!- dmikemiller has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:14 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 21:15 <@deathsushi> !lastgame nabru 21:15 @deathsushi: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1614991228.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1605872855.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:57134 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:57135 21:17 <@deathsushi> !lastgame karnac 21:17 @deathsushi: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Karnac/nethack/dumplog/1615038280.nh.html 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:57148 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:17313 21:20 !whereis Deathsushi 21:20 nabru: [hdf-us] Deathsushi [nh370]: (Rog Hum Mal Cha) T:17350 The Gnomish Mines level: 12 21:23 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1713, rt[0:08:36] 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:15356 21:25 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:15521 21:29 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2060 points, T:2226, [0:14:59], quit 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5740 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:5740 21:31 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:17459 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5905 21:32 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1640 points, T:364, rt[0:03:42], wc[0:06:29], killed by a death ray 21:34 !lastgame HastyGlord 21:34 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HastyGlord/setseed/dumplog/1615083937.seed.html 21:34 <@910rd> i zapped the wand 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 879639 points, T:15787, quit (with the Amulet) 21:37 !lastgame efw 21:37 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/efw/nethack/dumplog/1614834219.nh.html 21:38 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:42 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1734, rt[0:10:44] 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6327 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:18793 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3173 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Mon Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3187 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3242 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:18970 21:51 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 21:52 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4762 points, T:3651, [0:21:25], killed by a wounded soldier ant 21:52 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 436 points, T:1980, caught herself in her own fireball 22:02 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2009, rt[0:09:26] 22:05 <@deathsushi> Is it worth quaffing blessed smoky potions of oil for the chance to get a djinni? 22:05 <@deathsushi> /wish 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:7292 22:06 don't go very far out of your way to make it happen 22:06 people bless up big stacks of those things and leave without a wish 22:06 <@deathsushi> Yah it's a lot of abusing my wisdom 22:06 <@deathsushi> I do like a wish now and then 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3652 22:07 <@deathsushi> Okay, and is there any impact to an bugle's beatitude? I see nothing on the wiki 22:07 i'd quaff any that you happen to have lying around, wisdom is pretty easy to exercise 22:09 There's none that I know of 22:09 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:09 <@deathsushi> K sweet, thanks 22:09 <@deathsushi> Okay, great 22:09 <@deathsushi> spicyebolla: got it 22:09 tools that spawn normally are uncursed. and the buc doesn't matter for nonmagic instruments 22:10 it probably doesn't matter for magic ones either but i'm not gonna check for ya ;) 22:10 ...all he asked about was the bugle. 22:13 <@deathsushi> Umbire 😉 22:14 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 64 points, T:234, [0:00:23], killed by an uninjured jackal 22:17 -!- Nelennath has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:22 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2030, rt[0:08:28] 22:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5738 points, T:4375, [0:31:58], quit 22:24 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 22:26 -!- Nelennath has joined #hardfought 22:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:6564, rt[0:14:08] 22:29 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 22:32 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed orb of fate", on T:7716, rt[0:17:39] 22:33 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 19908 points, T:8263, [0:18:55], killed by a wounded soldier ant 22:34 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:282, rt[0:00:43] 22:37 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2712, rt[0:12:08] 22:37 -!- Nelennath has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:38 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1523, rt[0:04:15] 22:39 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:41 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law), 796 points, T:582, rt[0:04:07], wc[0:41:22], killed by a wounded imp 22:42 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 22:42 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2703, rt[0:08:55] 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9589 22:43 -!- Nelennath has joined #hardfought 22:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4362 points, T:3495, [0:20:15], killed by a wounded gnome lord, while praying 22:45 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:5051 22:48 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 22:48 -!- Nelennath has quit [] 22:48 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:6732, rt[0:14:57] 22:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:8519, rt[0:15:48] 22:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8651, rt[0:16:14] 22:52 <@deathsushi> Geez, stormbringer is a monster 22:52 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 22:52 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "holy wand of polymorph", on T:1707, rt[0:07:29] 22:55 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10302, rt[0:21:15] 22:55 Watching Luxi I take it? 22:55 Yeah, the life drain goes a long long way 22:56 <@deathsushi> No, I got one as a sac gift on my rogue build here 22:56 <@deathsushi> Is there an indication when my luck is maxxed, after throwing gems at unicorns? 22:56 <@deathsushi> (Analogous to not getting a four leaf clover for a valid sac?) 22:56 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2228, rt[0:11:34] 22:58 Nah 22:59 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Fem Law), 1674 points, T:1212, rt[0:10:34], wc[0:11:32], killed by an uninjured gnome lady 23:00 <@deathsushi> Ah well 23:02 [hdf-us] [seed] HastyGlord (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 23:03 Max you can have is +13 23:04 Or maybe +10, lemme double-read 23:04 jonadab: does twoflower ever learn magic in those pratchett books? 23:04 Wait no, right, it's 13 23:04 +10 natural luck, +3 from a blessed luck item 23:05 For unicorns: +5 points if the gem is formally identified, +2 points if type-named, and +1 point if completely unknown. 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful large dog, on T:22388 23:06 So 10 gems assuming they're unidentified 23:07 Aaaaaaand you Stormied your dog 23:07 RIP 23:07 <@nabru> rip poor dog 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9488 23:08 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3111, rt[0:23:14] 23:11 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "3 cursed genocide", on T:16731, rt[0:37:24] 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] yoleo531 (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 11676 points, T:11174, quit 23:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 18954 points, T:17776, quit 23:21 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 64517 points, T:20033, [0:47:50], killed by slightly wounded Master Kaen 23:22 <@luxidream> how is this guy doing like 68 damage in one turn 23:22 <@riker> skill & metaphysical gauntlets of power 23:28 -!- Nelennath has joined #hardfought 23:31 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1886, rt[0:05:20] 23:34 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) stole 6525 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Nenagh's second-hand bookstore, on T:2853, rt[0:08:39] 23:38 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5786, rt[0:52:54] 23:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6573, rt[0:14:56] 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 8465 points, T:6697, killed by an uninjured wolf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:46 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8489, rt[0:20:59] 23:51 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:9839, rt[0:25:19] 23:54 [hdf-eu] [seed] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8046, rt[1:09:04] 23:57 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:12402, rt[0:31:50] 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1184 points, T:1370, killed by an uninjured jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze