00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:55162 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55166 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:55201 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:103668 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:55511 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:103688 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:103835 00:19 o: 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:55729 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:55740 00:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 464 points, T:2301, killed by a dart 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:104200 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:104234 00:44 <@deathsushi> Is there any risk to keeping a cockatrice in my inventory 00:45 <@deathsushi> (provided I have gloves) 00:45 <@deathsushi> *cockatrice corpse 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:58095 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:58215 00:53 It's heavy besides that 00:53 But it's not a danger to you as long as you're not wielding it 00:57 [hdf-us] [slshm] malor (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 14313 points, T:4235, killed by a shadow ogre 00:58 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 01:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:06 -!- dmikemiller has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:105963 01:12 Plane of air now 01:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Swn Fem Non), 1228 points, T:1595, killed by a dagger 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:58844 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 Mjollnir", on T:1654 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:8417 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1669 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8501 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:106168 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:58851 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:106211 01:20 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1156 points, T:1558, killed by an imp 01:20 <@deathsushi> Umbire: Got it — thank you 01:20 <@deathsushi> Final realm 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:58873 01:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3761 01:21 Here's to watching you ascend tomorrow :3 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1127 points, T:2779, fell into a pit of iron spikes 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:58934 01:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4242 01:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 86 points, T:466, killed by a dwarf 01:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 83 points, T:129, killed by a sewer rat 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10081 01:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 24 points, T:112, killed by a sewer rat 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:10175 01:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 2179564 points, T:58948, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Kougyoku/nethack/dumplog/1612829457.nh.html 01:35 GG 01:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 4 points, T:148, killed by a kobold 01:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 111 points, T:271, killed by a goblin 01:37 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 01:41 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:5588 01:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 142 points, T:294, fell into a pit 01:46 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:10128 01:48 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 39993 points, T:3807, killed by a monster (pit fiend) 01:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed yoleo531's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:6137 01:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:10399 02:03 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 02:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4905 points, T:6771, killed by an arrow 02:10 [hdf-au] [gh] PeachMuffin (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1550 points, T:1093, killed by a gnomish werejackal 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:3724 02:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 1552 points, T:2453, killed by a gnome 02:15 -!- dmikemiller has joined #hardfought 02:15 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:16 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:16 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 02:16 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 02:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4079 02:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1520 02:42 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 02:44 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3138 02:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 388 points, T:816, killed by a small mimic 02:54 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:00 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 725 points, T:1727, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4935 03:08 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 03:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4870 03:20 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:20 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a steel spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2235 03:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril dwarvish short sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:3672 03:26 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 03:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1561 points, T:4104, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 03:29 -!- Lymee has joined #hardfought 03:30 -!- Adeon_ has joined #hardfought 03:32 -!- swegen_ has joined #hardfought 03:32 -!- 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Jilvane (Bar Hlf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4055 04:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6876 04:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12185 04:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 17662 points, T:4661, killed by a leather golem, while fainted from lack of food 04:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 203 points, T:835, killed by a grid bug 04:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 113 points, T:336, killed by a grid bug 04:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:47769 04:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:47771 04:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 297 points, T:530, killed by a sewer rat 04:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:47772 04:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 274 points, T:382, killed by a newt 04:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 188 points, T:447, killed by a newt 04:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:13649 04:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 324 points, T:382, killed by a sewer rat zombie 04:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 160 points, T:556, killed by a newt 04:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 193 points, T:407, killed by a sewer rat 04:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 102 points, T:102, killed by a jackal 04:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:47839 04:52 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 167 points, T:379, killed by a goblin 04:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 155 points, T:513, killed by a kobold 05:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 108 points, T:514, killed by a grid bug 05:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 6552 points, T:3964, killed by a dwarf lady 05:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 599 points, T:832, killed by a fox 05:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 76 points, T:141, killed by a poisonous corpse 05:11 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 177 points, T:259, killed by a jackal 05:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 98 points, T:290, killed by Mr. Hebiwerie, the shopkeeper 05:20 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10736 05:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:8685 05:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 1842 points, T:1368, killed by an Uruk-hai 05:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 105 points, T:536, killed by a sewer rat 05:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1399 05:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 2014 points, T:1892, killed by a dwarf 05:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 950 points, T:607, killed by a giant bat 05:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 385 points, T:688, killed by a gecko 05:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Bar Hlf Mal Cha), 141771 points, T:20900, killed by a quinon, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 264 points, T:355, killed by a gnome 06:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 76 points, T:269, killed by a dwarf 06:04 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 1843 points, T:3920, killed by an arrow 06:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 0 points, T:27, killed by a newt 06:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 290 points, T:304, killed by a jackal 06:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 18 points, T:79, killed by a grid bug 06:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 4623 points, T:2120, killed by a tengu 06:27 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 06:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragon scale mail", on T:9323 06:31 -!- Guest84943 is now known as bezaban 06:35 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "3 blessed scroll of charging", on T:9324 06:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 3222 points, T:1813, killed by a gnome lord 06:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed gauntlets of power", on T:9328 06:40 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 6003 points, T:5437, killed by an ettin 06:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:9330 06:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:9331 06:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:9372 06:44 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 06:48 -!- Darothok has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:48 -!- Darothok has joined #hardfought 06:49 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:9482 06:59 <@luxidream> >goes to spectate player 07:00 xNetHack on hardfought has been updated to 6.0 beta. This is not a release announcement; I'm keeping it in beta period for a week or two for bugs to be discovered and for me to do some fuzzing before calling it good. But the version on the server is now 6.0, with dtsund-dsm and all the other changes that entails. 07:00 <@luxidream> terminal size 261x56 MonkaS 07:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 2430 points, T:3091, killed by a plains centaur 07:01 <@luxidream> whoa so now you can make dragon anything? 07:01 yo luxidream are we allowed to check irc to see if we got the luckstone? 07:01 <@luxidream> yes 07:02 <@luxidream> I can't enforce that 07:02 it'd be kind of epic if someone quit after picking up the flint in the catacombs :P 07:02 @luxidream dragon-scaled body armors only. you can't scale, like, helms and boots and stuff 07:03 would be a feelsbad moment 07:04 <@luxidream> how many points of ac does it add? 07:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Feya (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 528 points, T:729, killed by a bat, while praying 07:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:14340 07:07 <@luxidream> "As in Fourk, I didn't bother implementing the part of the original proposal where you can pry the scales back off armor with a tin opener..." 07:07 <@luxidream> lol 07:07 can't get excited for the update now, thanks aosdict 07:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 105 points, T:159, killed by a wounded goblin 07:09 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Mon Hum Mal Law), 3831 points, T:4780, killed by an Uruk-hai 07:10 what does dtsund mean 07:11 <@luxidream> a person who suggested that you should be able to meld scales into body armor instead of having dsm 07:11 ah ok, thx 07:13 I'm sure you read it in the commit msg by now but scales add +3 AC and convey whatever dragon intrinsic 07:13 <@luxidream> cool 07:13 *extrinsic 07:13 <@luxidream> so I can wear silver dragon scales on top of gray dragon scaled armor? 07:14 yes. the tradeoff you're making there compared to a comr over sdsm is that scales are MC 0 07:15 <@luxidream> once an armor is scaled, does it lose all mc? 07:15 <@luxidream> so if I have scaled dwarven mithril, is it still mc2? 07:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] yoleo531 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14697 07:16 <@luxidream> if I could just get mc from my armor instead it's not as big of a deal 07:17 no, then yes. scaled armor is the same mc. scales without armor are 0 07:18 <@luxidream> oh that's cool then 07:19 congratulations luxi you discovered a case I may not have fully considered. are you happy now 07:20 :) 07:21 I say may because I can't remember if I did consider it and deemed it ok 07:21 scaled mithril + cloak slot scales may be mc2, but it's still metal, so not acceptable for everyone 07:22 <@luxidream> i mean the scale cloak is forced to be +0 07:22 scaled CPM would be super tanky but heavy 07:22 <@luxidream> so some players may dislike that 07:23 mc is just a crutch anyway just play better 07:23 <@luxidream> this post was made by nudist gang 07:24 <@luxidream> when I played nudist I hated quantum mechanics 07:24 haha I can imagine 07:24 <@luxidream> so annoying 07:24 does wearing lenses break nudist? 07:25 guessing not as blindfolds don't 07:25 <@luxidream> no 07:25 "those glasses are CLOTHES" 07:26 well if u have 20/20 vision theyre really just fashion at that point 07:26 <@luxidream> meanwhile a +0 t-shirt with literally no effect will break nudist 07:27 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 07:27 The real question is, does it count as nudism if _everyone else_ is blindfolded and can't see you? 07:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2823 07:28 haha nice, too deep for me 07:29 did you manage to ascend nudist then luxi? 07:29 <@luxidream> I played valkyrie 07:29 <@luxidream> the game isn't too different 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Curate, on T:10046 07:29 <@luxidream> later I did a zen nudist which is just zen with extra steps 07:34 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 114 points, T:320, killed by a jackal 07:38 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1094 points, T:1306, killed by a little dog 07:46 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:46 nice 07:52 !lastgame post163 07:52 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/splicehack/dumplog/1614861482.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/nethack4/dumplog/2021-02-08%2013%3A12%3A39%2C%20sdalf-Kni-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20died.txt 08:01 HI 08:01 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:02 'ello 08:11 <@luxidream> Hl 08:18 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1729, rt[0:05:54] 08:19 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:1833, rt[0:06:40] 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 87 points, T:166, killed by an uninjured vrock 08:23 <@malor> @K2 did the SlashTHEM person ever contact you or anyone on this discussion group? 08:23 not here no 08:23 its just been email 08:24 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3009, rt[0:11:49] 08:25 <@malor> So have you been in contact with them in any way? Not necessarily on this chat but any way, email, whatever? 08:27 yeah. i thought my reply implied that :) 08:27 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:28 <@malor> it did, although it wasn't exceptionally clear 🙂 08:28 :P 08:28 <@malor> my original question wasn't specific to my query, which was, "have you been or anyone been in contact with them via any means" 🙂 08:29 <@malor> I'm glad. 🙂 08:29 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:4246, rt[0:17:02] 08:30 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4258, rt[0:17:16] 08:31 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7212 points, T:4394, rt[0:18:19], wc[0:18:20], fell into a pit 08:34 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 08:36 not... the PIT 08:36 * K2 gasps 08:36 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Wiz Eth Mal Neu), 239 points, T:368, killed by a newt 08:36 [hdf-eu] [spl] Merlek (Bar Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2549 08:36 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:1175, rt[0:04:43] 08:37 -!- Nelennath has joined #hardfought 08:38 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1621 points, T:1337, rt[0:05:39], wc[0:05:40], killed by touching Excalibur 08:39 !lastgame antigulp 08:39 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/antigulp/setseed/dumplog/1614864732.seed.html 08:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Ogresmasher, on T:34665 08:40 -!- Nelennath_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:41 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Wiz Eth Mal Neu), 1243 points, T:931, killed by a snake 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1143 08:42 not doing a great job of the protection racket 08:42 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:875, rt[0:03:35] 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2884 08:42 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:43 amazon is messing with me right now 08:44 what's Jeff tryna pull now 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 813 points, T:1471, killed by an uninjured kobold mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:44 the contract for the hdf-eu instance expired and they didnt notify me 08:46 oh? 08:46 so when i got the monthly bill for end of february, my bill was higher than normal since the instance is no longer 'reserved' 08:46 ah I see 08:46 i'm in chat with their support now 08:47 they're like 'renew it' and i'm like 'i cant, option is greyed out because its already retired' 08:47 [hdf-eu] [spl] Merlek (Bar Inf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3062 08:48 so i'm trying to get them to renew it on their end OR I can just get a new instance IF they can transfer the volume over without any data loss 08:48 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2408, rt[0:09:51] 08:50 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:2785, rt[0:12:15] 08:51 chat ended, they'll have to email me back 08:51 * K2 sighs 08:51 hdf-eu is fine, it's now a billing issue mainly 08:51 does this mean justice for europeans 08:52 that doesnt exist 08:52 finally we'll get a server on par or better than hdf-us 08:52 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:52 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3093, rt[0:13:37] 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3546 08:53 i'm just messing if it wasn't obvious :P 08:53 thankfully hdf-us contract doesnt expire until thanksgiving this year, i haz time 08:53 amateurhour yes i know :P 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 649 points, T:1021, killed by a bolt of cold 08:54 I reckon they'll just be like "it's just one instance, have some credits to make up the unexpected difference and buy another" 08:55 if that happens... that's a lot of work to get everything cut over to new instance and all the services and stuff running 08:55 setting up the chroot 08:56 downtime would be minimal of course, old would stay live until new was ready 08:56 i want to avoid that if at all possible 08:56 from AWS support: - Unfortunately, the email wouldn't be triggered for the expiration of the Reserved Instance. 08:56 ^ fuck that 08:57 lol 09:00 Guess i'll setup my own reminder in my calendar :) 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1068 09:03 <{Demo}2> migrate to my cloud service where we just resell aws boxes at a 1.25x markup and also have a flat monthly "support" fee where "one of our team members" MIGHT respond to your emails 09:03 no 09:03 [hdf-eu] [spl] Merlek (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4214 09:04 <{Demo}2> if you want a vps with ssd backed storage you gotta pay extra (even though we pay aws the same) 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4370 09:06 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7341 points, T:4436, rt[0:26:37], wc[0:28:05], killed by a wounded mumak 09:08 ... no 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1728 09:14 <@luxidream> !lastgame antigulp 09:14 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/antigulp/setseed/dumplog/1614865111.seed.html 09:15 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide jumping boots", on T:49286 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:2383 09:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 mithril helm of speed", on T:49291 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (large mimics), on T:808 09:20 !tell infinigon chat me up when you get a free minute, I have some suggestions regarding setseed build 09:20 infinigon shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 09:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver atlatl of frost named Demonslayer", on T:49295 09:21 -!- tsingi has joined #hardfought 09:22 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 09:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:27 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7285 09:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2163 09:29 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given the Cloak of the Unheld One, on T:36635 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 6852 points, T:7903, killed by a wounded leocrotta 09:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) became the Emissary of Elements, on T:19832 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2755 09:36 [hdf-eu] [spl] Merlek (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:5999 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:57576 09:42 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:46 [hdf-eu] [spl] Merlek (Bar Inf Nbn Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:6956 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3958 points, T:3623, killed by a wounded owlbear 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:112 09:53 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Pri Hum Mal Law), 276 points, T:628, killed by a fox 09:55 [hdf-eu] [spl] Merlek (Bar Inf Nbn Cha), 25001 points, T:7723, exterminated by an invisible stalker, while frozen by a potion 09:58 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Pri Hum Mal Law), 603 points, T:853, killed by a sewer rat 09:58 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Val Gia Fem Law), 1014396 points, T:57605, killed by a nurse 09:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:04 <{Demo}2> weird 10:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:22798 10:05 <@nabru> ! lastgame hothraxxa 10:05 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/evilhack/dumplog/1614262426.evil.html 10:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:06 <@nabru> rip 10:06 nabru: some asshole gated in yeenoghu and he immediately did about 100 hp damage and i was down to 54 without any healing 10:06 next turn, dywypi 10:07 :( 10:07 <@nabru> :( 10:07 i had half physical damage too 10:08 and ac -34 10:10 <{Demo}2> wtf 10:12 <{Demo}2> oh you were burdened 10:14 i don't think that mattered. in evilhack yeenoghu has butcher, which does massive damage, and reflection is only partially effective against the magic missile spell, which he cast 10:14 i would have been ok if i had some healing in open inventory 10:14 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:14 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 10:14 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:49461 10:18 Yeah if you're getting mulched through -34 AC I don't think leaving a lighter corpse would've done anything 10:19 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1130 points, T:2006, killed by a gnome lord 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:25936 10:19 <{Demo}2> fewer turns of getting hit 10:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4750 10:24 [hdf-eu] [spl] Merlek (Dra Chn Mal Law), 911 points, T:2092, slain by a rothe 10:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Ran Orc Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5507 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 336 points, T:248, killed by an uninjured dwarf 10:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Feya (Ran Orc Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5509 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:6, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4440 10:39 -!- raisse has joined 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T:47602 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:27874 10:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5243 points, T:3431, killed by a wounded Elvenking 10:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:49755 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6477 11:00 !lastgame efw 11:00 tsingi: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/efw/nethack/dumplog/1614825379.nh.html 11:01 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:47670 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 188 points, T:505, killed by Mr. Ardjawinangun; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 11:03 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:07 <@princessSpicycat> "The wiki is an aggregate of our knowledge and as such is always open to refinement and improvement" one problem is, novicey but well-meaning people get on there and add bad strategy and i just don't have the heart to completely revert their edits 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2142 points, T:2099, killed by an uninjured fox, while fainted from lack of food 11:07 <@princessSpicycat> easier to blast and rant in the talk pages ^_^ 11:07 :V 11:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Shelob, on T:20961 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:47906 11:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:37930 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 408 points, T:421, killed by a wounded gnome 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3131 11:25 what are some examples of bad strategy on the wiki? 11:25 <@princessSpicycat> thidwick 11:26 <{Demo}2> mbm 11:27 <@princessSpicycat> recently, there was a Knight strategy section i removed, which went into a ton of detail about how Knights have a better chance to find dragon eggs than other roles, because your pet is herbivorous, and you should pick up eggs in the hopes they turn into a baby dragon, then you should level that dragon up, and ride it 11:27 what is thidwick 11:27 <@princessSpicycat> an occasional editor of the wiki 11:27 oh 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3343 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:48113 11:27 At least magicby seems to have given it a rest 11:27 that advice is epic 11:28 <@princessSpicycat> well weren't they banned pinky? 11:28 wow I wonder how many times that advice has worked for someone 11:28 that's some real 200iq strategising why did you remove it 11:28 Yeah, but they know how to create sockpuppets 11:28 wow I love knights now 11:28 <{Demo}2> qt: eggs use normal monster generation depth 11:29 <@princessSpicycat> here you go amateurhour: https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Knight&diff=prev&oldid=137974 11:29 <{Demo}2> so by the time they are deep enough to find eggs with a chance their starting pet is probably dead 11:29 is magicby that Chris Bowers guy 11:29 qt: Yeah 11:29 he rocks 11:30 can't wait to play Priest Quest: Dark Days 11:30 oh no just checked the updates on that rgrn thread 11:30 > Ugh. Messed up a save file by not saving correctly. I can't even save files correctly and everyone thinks I should learn to pr ogram C. Back to re-do the castle and town rumors again. O well! 11:30 O well! 11:31 I wonder how he managed to "not save correctly" 11:31 <@princessSpicycat> here you go qt https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Juiblex&type=revision&diff=136357&oldid=133339 11:32 omg amazon, you suck 11:33 they're telling me i cant renew the hdf-eu instance, i'll have to buy a new contract 11:34 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Dwa Mal Neu) killed the assassin of MaxLunar, the former Killer, on T:4174 11:35 did they give you a reason or is it just a capricious ruling handed down from the Bezosmeister 11:35 <@princessSpicycat> people just put stuff like that on the wiki without talking to other people, or wiztesting to verify, or even code diving, and how much time does anyone wanna spend chasing all the bad strategy down? 11:35 <@princessSpicycat> so the wiki has bad strategy, in assorted places at assorted times, but at least the hard data on the wiki is almost always right 11:36 magicbymccauley is quixotic 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3634 11:37 nice word 11:37 almost kafkaesk 11:37 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37 kafkaesque in english i assume 11:37 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 11:38 @princessSpicycat ehh not always, there is still the "omg I haven't found any magic armor, better go write that the magic armor probability is lowered in $newversion" people 11:38 qt: no really no. I told the person in charge of my case that policy is bullshit and to fix it. there's no good reason that you shouldnt be able to renew an expired instance 11:38 how is quixotic pronounced? is it like Quixote or is it 'quickzotic'? i've only seen it written out 11:39 it's derived from Quixote so I assume the same as that 11:39 K2: that sucks, I feel like amazon support is horrible too, they only ever send you form letters 11:39 this wouldnt have even been an issue if i had been given notice 11:39 at least in my experience 11:39 no notice given at all 11:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2391 11:40 qt: I've heard it pronounced kwik-ZOTT-ic, but I can't say whether that's the only or even the most common pronunciation. It's a word that's mostly used in print. 11:40 brb 11:40 yeah it said kwiksotik when I looked it up just now 11:40 that's sort of silly 11:40 <{Demo}2> I got an abuse email for aws over the dumbest shit 11:40 K2: I mean, plenty of services don't give you notice that your free or reduced-cost trial period or whatever is about to expire so that you start getting charged more 11:40 Well, it's sort of a silly word. 11:40 qt: like 'keshotic' 11:41 keshotic!? 11:41 kishotic 11:41 I mean, the other likely pronunciation would be key-HOAT-ic 11:41 the discussion about the word is undermining the point I actually wanted to make, which is that mbm is a crank on a crusade 11:41 But I've never heard it pronounced that way. 11:42 jonadab: that's how I pronounce it 11:42 that is the IPA of 'quixote' kiˈxote 11:42 I'm surprised the dictionary doesn't even list the Quixote derived pronunciation as an alternative 11:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:42 the x is like the x in the spanish pronounciation of mexico 11:42 <{Demo}2> yeah if I had to guess how to pronounce it I'd go with what jonadab said 11:42 so quichotic 11:43 that chrchrchr noise 11:43 quichotic would mean charactarized by egg casseroles. 11:43 from the throat 11:43 well in german 'ch' can be 'x' 11:43 lol jonadab 11:43 the spanish 'x' 11:43 so i wrote it like that 11:44 also egg casserole would be quicheotic 11:44 What I'm curious about now, is whether "quixotic" was coined in English, or coined in some other language (Spanish?) and then brought over to English. 11:44 <@princessSpicycat> thank you stenno 11:45 <@princessSpicycat> 4 11:45 -!- stenno4 is now known as stenno 11:46 jonadab: -otic is probably of english origin 11:46 Oh, weird point of trivia: how do people in Kosciusko County, Indiana pronounce the name of their county? The answer is, of course, KOSS-key-OSS-ko. Because of course it is. 11:46 like biotic, robotic 11:47 worcester is pronounced 'woster' for no apparent reason 11:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2102 points, T:1587, killed by an uninjured newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:47 aosdict: Actually, I think that suffix is of Greek origin. 11:47 People who can pronounce "head waiter" "mayter dee" might do anything 11:47 Don Quixote is what the term references, a guy that jousted windmills. That's pronounced key-hote-eh? (I'm Canadian, but that's it) 11:47 stenno: Only in England. 11:47 In America there are several pronunciations, and that isn't one of them. 11:47 tsingi: its kiˈxote 11:47 jonadab: No, everyone in the UK pronounces it that way. 11:47 OK, if you say so. 11:47 leicester is 'lester' 11:47 Pinkbeast: That's what I said. 11:47 But in America not. 11:47 where are all the letters 11:47 jonadab: No, you said England. 11:48 I realise you're wilfully ignorant on this point, but I'm wilfully corrective. 11:48 'the `ice` is silent' 11:48 Pinkbeast: Oh, right, that. Yes, I said England meaning the whole country, not England proper the province. 11:48 The country isn't England. 11:48 jonadab: oof 11:48 <{Demo}2> i dont wanna know which one england is vs all the other stuff cause itll change 11:48 jonadab: be careful with that statement, there have been civil wars about it 11:48 <{Demo}2> u can just call all of america texas if u want and il ljust call theat whole island england 11:48 {Demo}2: That one won't change when Scotland secedes, except that ignorant Americans will become more ignorant. 11:48 jonadab: there's a stop on the J train called Kosciuszko and the conductors always pronounce it that way too 11:49 stenno: in worcester massachusetts they're very particular about wooster or wustah 11:49 well its similar to the british pronounciation 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2738 points, T:7370, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 11:49 or wuster 11:49 [hdf-eu] [un] Feya (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1387 points, T:1858, killed by an invisible kobold lord 11:49 still like whats with that 'c' 11:49 Wait, they do that in Massachussetts too? 11:49 aosdict: I think stenno's "woster" is more like "wooster" 11:49 or wistah 11:49 why is there a c 11:49 but they got in computerized systems in the new J trains that pronounce it correctly recently 11:49 Sacre Mer. q) an uncursed ring of poison resistance 11:50 At least in OHio we know how to spell Wooster. 11:50 stenno: the real question mark is the first r 11:50 but if you go to worcester and say war-chester, you will be ridiculed 11:50 as a kid i used to pronouce it 'warchester' 11:50 ding 11:51 open the warchester! 11:51 i am the warchestest 11:51 another good pronunciation thing like this is the streets in New Orleans named after the Muses 11:51 <@princessSpicycat> as a kid i pronounced it wəssəssə sauce 11:51 this is the thing I don't get 11:51 Regarding the sauce (which is spelled "worchestershire"), I've heard it pronounced "worchester", "worshashir", "whirshirshir", and rarely "worsester". 11:52 Scotland forever! Except it's currently fucked. 11:52 Calliope is pronounced "cally - ope", "Euterpe" is pronounced "you - turp", etc 11:52 Nobody says "worchestershire" fully all the way out. 11:52 jonadab: wat? they SPELL it worchestershire? with that first h in place? 11:52 the sauce is worcester sauce 11:52 aosdict: Oh, wait, no. 11:52 "Worcestershire". 11:52 like, a sauce company should know better! 11:52 <@princessSpicycat> well shire is a silent e 11:53 Sorry, the h was a typo/thinko on my part there. 11:53 Worcester MA seems to be pronounced pretty well the same as Worcester UK, accent aside 11:53 Interesting. 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:48229 11:54 That suggests that the pronunciation is somewhat older than I would've guessed. 11:54 well, they did name it after worcester uk 11:54 <{Demo}2> we have "gloucester va" and its pronouned gloster i think 11:54 probably goes back to the vikings or so 11:54 I mean, it's older than the country 11:54 or even earlier 11:55 I mean, British pronunciation is *mostly* not that conservative. 11:55 Worcester, Leicester, Gloucester, and don't forget that Manchester is pronounced "Manster" when you visit. :-) 11:55 But maybe place names are special. 11:55 Gloucester Meteor, the first British jet fighter 11:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:19169 11:56 Is "Nottinghamshire" pronounced "nomster"? 11:56 absolutely 11:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law) was given their Quest, on T:19356 11:56 I heard that "Godmanchestershire" is "gumster". 11:56 Regrettably not but it would be a good idea 11:56 I said Rue Malcherbes to a cabbie in Paris once and fucked it up so royally it was hilarious. 11:57 lol 11:57 Oh, that's a well known trick for getting Parisians to speak English: mangle the French so badly it hurts their souls. 11:57 append 'shire' and you can leave out the middle of first word 11:57 how is it properly pronounced tsingi? malsherb? 11:57 my attempted joke about the Gloster Meteor fails because apparently the company *was* Gloucester Aircraft until they realized foreigners have trouble with the name so they changed it 11:57 Showd him it written down... Ahh! Rue Malcherbes! 11:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3114 11:58 YEah, it's malsherb, not malcherbees. 11:58 pinkbeastshire -> pastshire 11:58 lol 11:58 Godmanchestershire doesn't exist: "Gumster" for Godmanchester is largely obsolete (sa wp, and I'm been there and never heard it) 11:58 Ah, so some of this junk _is_ exaggeration then. 11:58 But apparently not most of it. 11:59 Pinkbeast: huh, I knew worcester, leicester, and gloucester since they're all in massachusetts, but for some reason I never extended the same line of thinking to manchester 11:59 in manchester VT people said man-chester 11:59 Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogochshire -> llanshire 12:00 lol aosdict we say man-chester here as well 12:00 <{Demo}2> every1 calls the soccer team "man-chester united" 12:00 just in case you didn't catch the sarcasm 12:00 love the 4 l's and gogogo at the end 12:00 I'm pretty sure I've heard a British person refer verbally to something called "Manchester United", and it sounded like he was saying "Manchester". 12:00 its chester, not cester 12:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law) killed Nimune, on T:19875 12:01 Pinkbeast was just joking about manchester 12:01 ^ 12:01 pretty sure taht one (Manchester) is as it sounds, I've met some british fans. 12:01 Yes sorry I was lying about Manchester, also I should have picked Chester, it would have been a better lie 12:02 I'm a simple guy, if a brit tells me about british pronunciation I believe them 12:02 if you see borough or boro at the end, replace it with 'bruh' 12:02 I think I only expect "cester" to be weird, not "chester" 12:02 aosdict: Ah, you can tell when we're joking because we talk exactly how we do when we're serious. 12:02 same with burgh 12:02 yeah edinburgh 12:02 I'm dead dammit, That was a promising wizard. Fucking gnomes dig pits, put spikes in them and spread shit on them. Do they think they're on Nam? 12:02 Then there's the question about whether Londonderry is pronounced "LUN-dunn-dree", "LONN-dree", or "Derr-ee". 12:03 in 12:03 the US board on geographic names eventually convinced most places named -burgh to drop the h from their name. Pittsburgh is a notable exception. 12:03 "spread shit on them" probably because they fell in them and died 12:03 do you pronounce any of them as 'bruh' aosdict ? 12:04 Local pronunciations are different everywhere, I was told in Alberta that I should say Toronto not teranna. Responded by saying it's Calgary not Calgry. 12:04 no, pittsburgh is pits-burg 12:04 pissburg 12:04 pissbruh* 12:05 sounds like a good fetlife username 12:06 If you ask someone from around here how to pronounce Bucyrus, they're probably gonna go with the three-syllable "bew-SIE-russ", but if you just wait until it comes up in conversation, they're 99% going to say "bsarz", one syllable. 12:06 related https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/02/01/12981976-6979893-image-a-90_1556755810091.jpg 12:07 ah the scunthorpe problem 12:07 yeah 12:07 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gropecunt_Lane 12:08 imagine living in sandyballs, fingringhoe, wetwang or penistone 12:08 one of my exes lived in wetwang 12:08 literally nothing there 12:08 There's a Peniston Street in New Orleans 12:08 the penis mightier than the sword 12:09 pen is( 12:10 You have a penis mightier? 12:10 Can I buy it? 12:11 I spent a lifetime trying to invent one. 12:11 (SNL) 12:11 after the mary hardfought of cardano 'peniscoin' probably already exists 12:11 hard fork* lol 12:11 what a typo 12:11 <@princessSpicycat> there's a song about all the crazy town names in new jersey 12:12 yep https://bloxy.info/address/0x54857b1de0db6c56e339ed41f50ca255594b29bb 12:12 there is a song 'the 10 coolest things about new jersey' by bloodhound gang and its just 10 seconds of silence 12:12 <@princessSpicycat> Whippany, Parsippany, Penny Pot, Hackensack, Loch Arbour, Egg Harbor, Swinesburg, Caviar, Cheesequake, Boy Scout Lake, Moonachie, Tenafly 12:12 <@princessSpicycat> CHEESEQUAKE 12:13 I've driven across New Jersey. Ever few miles you pass a blade of grass. 12:13 It's weird, I haven't lived in new york long enough to hate new jersey, but I feel like there's some social pressure to? 12:13 [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Wiz Dop Mal Cha), 112535 points, T:10860, killed by the Dragon Lord 12:14 Don't New Yorkers pretty much hate _everything_? 12:14 <@princessSpicycat> i sold hammocks at a couple craft fairs in new jersey and the rude asshole quotient was unusually high 12:14 <{Demo}2> upstate new york seems wayyyyyyy better than nyc 12:14 (New York City, that is. Upstate is different.) 12:14 jonadab: but new jersey in particular 12:14 <@princessSpicycat> whereas in the midwest the problem was more just cluelessness and dumb questions and being afraid to sit in a hammock 12:15 aosdict: haven't you seen Santacon? I think experiencing that you have to come away with at least a little bit of hate for NJ lol 12:15 Long Island too 12:15 was santacon the thing where all the santas just get drunk and beat each other up? 12:15 yeah 12:15 it happens every year 12:15 Sure, in the Midwest people will look at your hammocks and go "Oh, cool, how does that work?" And then don't buy it because they don't have two trees the exact right distance apart. 12:16 still seems harmless against the average furry convention 12:16 <@princessSpicycat> is drunken fighting the express purpose of santacon, or just a reliable side effect? 12:16 drunkenness is the express purpose, fighting is just incidental 12:16 the second, i think 12:17 I saw one Santacon woman who was so drunk that she fell down and split her head open against a fire hydrant, and her friends just left her there 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28668 12:18 qt: don't you live on long island 12:18 qt: Santas can be _so_ judgemental if you've been naughty 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:28675 12:19 <@princessSpicycat> i wonder if santacon is mentioned in the Stuff White People Like book 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:43120 12:19 yeah in brooklyn 12:19 i hate myself too but for unrelated reasons 12:20 Boroughs are usually considered separate from Long Island 12:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:20 brooklyn and queens are part of long island and I will defend that to my death 12:22 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 12:22 My second wife was born in the Bronx (?) I don't think I've been there, benn to Manhattan and I recognized Harlem from the guys stripping a car 50 feet from a parked cop. 12:22 Wait, Brooklyn and Queens are... huh. Yes they are. I always thought they were on the mainland, for some reason. 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:29204 12:26 [hdf-eu] [slth] amateurhour (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 47417 points, T:3809, killed by an algolian suntiger 12:27 aosdict: when you say mainland/upstate NY do you also include manhattan (because of marble hill) and the bronx 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 shield of reflection", on T:43279 12:28 well there are those who say upstate begins at 102nd st... 12:28 Manhattan is an island, ergo, clearly not the mainland. (Don't ask about honshu.) 12:29 When I think upstate New York, I think, like, Buffalo, or Syracuse. 12:29 jonadab: marble hill is part of the borough of manhattan but it's not on the island of manhattan, it's on the mainland 12:29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Hill,_Manhattan 12:29 for complicated historical reasons lol 12:29 That is confusing. 12:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:4210 12:30 yeah 12:32 manhattan also contains several other islands that are not manhattan 12:32 roosevelt island, randalls island, I think governors island... 12:32 It's fairly normal for minor outlying islands to get lumped in with a parent island. 12:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:4558 12:33 But adding in part of the mainland, is less common I think. 12:33 marble hill used to be an island 12:33 but then they filled in the water and connected it to the mainland 12:33 Oh. THat's... interesting. 12:33 <{Demo}2> why did ppl settle there anyways? its cold 12:34 Cold? 12:34 New York is not notably cold. 12:34 Unless you're from, like, Jamaica, or someplace. 12:34 marble is cold though 12:34 I'd rather settle on rug hill 12:34 <{Demo}2> it snows there pretty reliabely in the winter? 12:34 Well, yes, that's normal. 12:34 <{Demo}2> no 12:34 <{Demo}2> that's cold 12:35 jonadab: Jamaica, Queens? ;) 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:43344 12:35 {Demo}2: If it doesn't snow in winter, you live in the tropics. If it snows in the summer, you live in the arctic. If it snows in winter but NOT in summer, that's normal. 12:35 well it's undeniably true that snow is cold 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:43348 12:36 !coffee 12:36 * Beholder passes nabru a bucket of cafe latte, replicated by Arsinoe at 219 Kelvin. 12:36 If it snows in summer but not in winter, then you've got your seasons confused. 12:36 <{Demo}2> how frequent snow qualifies "snow" 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:29488 12:37 jonadab: https://xkcd.com/2081/ 12:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2931 points, T:5150, killed by a wounded tengu 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:29497 12:38 <{Demo}2> like, how often does it have to snow in the winter for "snows reliably" to qualify? 12:38 it often only snows a handful of times each winter in my experience 12:38 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 12:38 it has snowed like 3-4 times this year so far, but a couple were pretty big snowstorms 12:38 <{Demo}2> well i guess its not that cold there then 12:39 <{Demo}2> although im starting to realize precipitation and temperature don't really mean the same thing 12:39 -!- slackerwacker11 has joined #hardfought 12:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] beastly (Nob Hlf Mal Law), 3093 points, T:2042, killed by a riding accident 12:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4842 points, T:3001, killed by an arrow 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Metals, on T:43547 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:43558 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) put the invisible Death down for a little nap, on T:43578 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 723 points, T:2581, killed by a nearly deceased rabid rat 12:49 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 12:50 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:43661 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:43702 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1289 points, T:3152, killed by an uninjured coyote 12:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:42553 12:57 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 12:58 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 363 points, T:813, killed by a wounded gecko 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:7502 13:15 {Demo}2: "If I was in charge we'd never see grass between October and May" -- Calvin 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) murdered Four, her faithful gray dragon, on T:68660 13:19 <{Demo}2> i dont know what weather i want honestly 13:19 <{Demo}2> i dont like the cold. it is mean 13:20 <{Demo}2> but i hate bugs 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 553 points, T:205, killed by an uninjured grid bug, while reading a book 13:21 <{Demo}2> got an armv8 asm conways game of life implementation workign with a blinker but now i need to see if it actually works and try something more complicated 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 Magicbane", on T:7779 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) stole 1031 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Angmagssalik's general store, on T:2334 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1501153 points, T:43738, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bartlem/nethack/dumplog/1614088454.nh.html 13:24 <{Demo}2> beacon works 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 762 points, T:2346, killed by slightly wounded Mr. Angmagssalik; the shopkeeper 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8039 13:28 {Demo}2: I think really dry weather leads to fewer bugs even if it's warm, but I don't have direct experience with that; in the Midwest, the only time the weather is ever dry, is in the dead of winter when it's colder than a freezer. 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:24790 13:35 -!- joes has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:36 -!- tsingi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:39 [hdf-us] [spl] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2722 13:43 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 13:43 can confirm, I find less bugs in my code during dry spells 13:43 late GG to Bart 13:46 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 63622 points, T:7450, petrified by a basilisk 13:47 <@princessSpicycat> {Demo}2: if you don't like the cold, and hate bugs, i think the weather you're looking for is "arizona" or adjacent 13:47 <@princessSpicycat> deserts and scrubby near-deserts are wonderfully low in bugs 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 320 points, T:1418, killed by a wounded small mimic 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1813 13:48 <@princessSpicycat> basically all climates east of the rockies are bad, and it sounds like PNW rainforest is too 13:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:49925 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 784 points, T:783, killed by a rabid rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:55 [hdf-us] [spl] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 4160 points, T:3344, murdered by a hill orc 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4668 14:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Hlf Fem Law), 303447 points, T:21908, killed by Oona 14:02 !lastgame Som 14:02 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Som/dnethack/dumplog/1614798343.dnh.txt 14:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:44485 14:09 what heresy is that, now we're discussing things that could be removed from vanilla??? guys... 14:10 ? 14:10 nethackwiki 14:10 no one is actually proposing to remove anything 14:11 <@luxidream> Ok but seriously can anyone actually tell the difference between the different kinds of elf 14:11 when you identify a thing that no one would notice if it were removed, that's a legitimate issue. you can do a couple things with it, you can remove it, or you can better differentiate them 14:11 well wording it as "things that could be removed and no one would notice" sounds like it would be a small step to actually make a PR for it and send it to the devteam 14:11 do the different types of elf grudge against eachother in variants which have that? 14:12 @luxidream I didn't think of elves, good catch 14:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed the invisible high shaman of Moloch, on T:22575 14:13 why do the various types of feline have to be differentiated further than having slightly different levels and damage outputs, anyway? 14:14 <@luxidream> Lynxes don’t always drop a corpse 14:15 <{Demo}2> jaguars can swim 14:15 <@luxidream> See, there’s a difference 😉 14:15 <@luxidream> whoa I’ve never seen that be relevant and I suspect I never will 14:17 you have my vote to remove secret doors 14:17 poor secret corridors even get forgotten for being a candidate of being removed 14:17 <{Demo}2> wait nvm thats not in vanilla 14:17 <@luxidream> How do blind players find secret passages 14:18 <{Demo}2> well then, suggestion, add swimming to jaguar 14:18 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 14:18 <@luxidream> like on my stream I got stuck on d:1 14:18 slex 2.70 will even have respawning secret corridors :P "but why amy lol" because it provides another way to train the searching skill! 14:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:18 ... respawning how? 14:18 <{Demo}2> rehides itself 14:19 <@luxidream> clearly slex is not concerned with accessibility 14:19 <@luxidream> lol 14:19 <{Demo}2> slex is meant to be inaccessible even to people WITHOUT disabilities 14:19 Pinkbeast: empty floor squares can occasionally turn into walls that are really secret corridors 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6176 14:20 @luxidream like non blind players 14:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:20 @luxidream they have different colors 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 633 points, T:1577, killed by a wand 14:22 I think we should be happy that LarienTelrunya puts her evil energy into a game instead of striving for world domination 14:22 the future of mankind.. a human face, stepped on by sexy pumps, forever 14:23 heh, my world domination plans were foiled years ago :P when I was younger, I thought I could modify the Monopoly board game to make reality itself bend to my will, it didn't work though 14:23 eventually we will discover that SLEX is the creation of an AI to delay world domination 14:23 but back then I was young and foolish (cue my roommate saying "and now you're just foolish, Amy :P ) 14:24 many things got invented because people where too stupid to not know that they were impossible 14:24 LarienTelrunya: TBF almost everyone modifies the Monopoly boardgame to make reality not bend itself to their will (ie "I want the game to terminate, so I will play with house rules that cause it not to terminate") 14:25 oh, unrelated but I just remembered: yesterday I dreamed that I was playing slex and found an item called "bag of classes". sadly the dream ended too soon, so I didn't find out what the hell a bag of classes does! 14:25 <{Demo}2> when i was a kid i had a neighbor that lost the house and moved into the shed and drank and smoke all day and he'd talk all the time about how he was gonna build a perpetual motion machine 14:25 <{Demo}2> by like having two cans of pressurized air and pushing the pressure between the two or something 14:25 {Demo}2: Then he "invented" the EMDrive? :-) 14:25 <{Demo}2> and he was talking about how it would be in every car ever and i could say I knew the guy who invented the perpetual motion machine 14:25 <{Demo}2> and then he drank himself to death 14:26 Pinkbeast: heh, vanilla monopoly, just like vanilla risk, can indeed go on forever 14:26 <{Demo}2> not necessarily directly after that but in general he never did that cause it wasnt possible 14:27 you say that but what do you know? 14:27 <{Demo}2> not to do what he did 14:27 LarienTelrunya: Almost never; it's actually pretty well balanced. It's house rules that make it go on forever. 14:28 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/817116188403302430/image0.jpg 14:28 Almost never> basically it can only if no-one is willing to trade and no-one naturally gets a colour group. It's not a great game, but it is a much better game than the game people play with the pieces. :-/ 14:28 <@luxidream> Amy’s favorite piece 14:28 <{Demo}2> i hate monopoly 14:29 hahaha Luxidream :) are those iceblock heels (worn by the type of ice block's little sister in my fanfic)? 14:30 Pinkbeast: my favorite homebrew monopoly variant that I made had 16 color groups with mostly 3 properties each, and it still sometimes happened that no player got a color group 14:31 <@luxidream> You write fanfic about variant devs? 14:31 <{Demo}2> luxi, im guessing amy wrote some really fucked up shit to try to make them fuck off 14:31 naaaaah, the type of ice block is actually a fictional character that I invented when I was maybe 15 or so 14:31 <{Demo}2> oh 14:31 <{Demo}2> amy's sonichu then 14:31 there was also a type of snowball, a type of stone, and several others, but they haven't reappeared in the newer chapters 14:31 maybe one day they will :D 14:32 LarienTelrunya: Still, that's a bit better than the usual "put money under Free Parking" crap :-) 14:32 GME just started climbing UP 14:32 Pinkbeast: why? in my variant that space was renamed to "birthday" and you'd of course gain the money you spent on various bad spaces if you managed to land on it 14:33 it's like winning the jackpot :D 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Fido, her faithful little dog, on T:6918 14:33 LarienTelrunya: Because what causes the game to fail to terminate is that the rate that the board drops money into the losing players' pockets exceeds the rate at which the winning players take it out. 14:34 the makers of monopoly didn't even know the rules to their own game, of course something happens when you land on free parking! :P 14:34 So any change that increases money from the board is bad. 14:34 well they should have balanced it by also adding some other ways in which you can lose money to the bank 14:34 but having a space that simply means "nothing happens"? booooring :P 14:34 <@luxidream> The first time I played monopoly someone used the strategy where they bought all the houses 14:34 <@luxidream> and I lost very quickly 14:35 <@luxidream> never played it since 14:35 luxidream: Another good one often wrecked by house rules. (Likewise, screwing people over at auction...) 14:37 why is there an auction when I move on a property and don't want to buy it? screw that, other players have to please get lucky to roll the right numbers to land on that property if they want it! :P 14:37 also, I have an old windows 3.1 monopoly game on my PC that has a big fat loophole: if you move onto another player's property and should pay rent, you can simply press escape and then you don't lose money, makes it very easy to win the game 14:38 [hdf-us] [slshm] malor (Und Dop Mal Cha), 546 points, T:1104, killed by a little dog, while helpless 14:41 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Neu), 4592 points, T:3493, quit 14:42 I feel like this is a symptom of people forgetting the game was literally designed from the outset to be unpleasant prior to Hasbro oh-so-charitably Robin Hooding it 14:43 which game are we talking about 14:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] nabru (Val Dop Fem Neu), 250 points, T:340, killed by a hobbit 14:43 <@luxidream> Capitalism 14:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 307 points, T:320, killed by a slightly wounded gnome lady 14:44 *hiss* 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 999 points, T:3338, killed by a slightly wounded rothe 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Reconnoiterer, on T:12171 14:52 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a javelin entrusted to her by Odin, on T:8457 14:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:01 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Neu) received The Harp of Lightning by Ford, on T:9337 15:02 <{Demo}2> sounds like a cool artifact but i bet its actually super lame 15:02 <{Demo}2> cause thats just what slex does 15:02 Artifact specs: warning, teleport control and acid resistance when wielded, neutral. 15:03 "lol amy why would i wield a harp" 15:03 <{Demo}2> is this from a jonadab perl script to generate random artis with random props? 15:03 lol 15:03 how does it literally have nothing to do with lightning 15:03 no it's from the ty-err creator of slashthem, but amyfied of course :P 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed tsingi's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:2683 15:04 in slashthem it gives benefits when carried 15:04 is 'Amyfied' in this case making it have to be wielded to do anyth- 15:04 yep 15:04 lol 15:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:04 amyfied basically means "changed to fit into slex", which for everyone but me probably means "made so sucky that you'd never realistically consider using it" 15:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] beastly (Ana Vam Mal Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:1865 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a large shield entrusted to her by Odin, on T:9818 15:06 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Neu), 11041 points, T:9771, killed by a lucern hammer 15:06 yeah, wouldn't want anyone to accidentally stumble upon something useful 15:07 artifacts that give benefits upon being carried can easily become OP, because you'd accumulate more and more of those and thereby get tons of slotless properties on top of whatever you actually get from worn stuff 15:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11770 points, T:9860, killed by the wrath of Odin 15:08 would that even matter? you made it so you need 2x everything anyway :P 15:08 that's why in slex the only artifacts with beneficial carried properties are generally quest artifacts and bad gray stones :P (the latter because carrying them also has a drawback, e.g. the weight of a loadstone) 15:08 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] tkirkby (Mon Hlf Fem Law), 15580 points, T:2900, killed by Kroo the Kobold King 15:09 rip 15:09 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Neu), 2514 points, T:632, quit 15:09 huh I wonder why Max quit 15:11 he plays sloppily after starting a new char and if things go badly he restarts, or so he told me 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3254 15:12 only if he gets far (i.e. at a certain point in the game, although I'm not sure exactly when he reaches that point) he starts putting in some effort 15:12 makes sense 15:14 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:15 !who 15:15 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] post163 [nh370] shadowrider38 [nh370] dgoddard [zapm] arnibald [dnh] KrO2 [dnh] beastly [dnh] MaxLunar [slex] RohoDragon [slex] malor [slshm] bouquet [evil] tinklebear [seed] | [hdf-eu] Vis [nh370] amateurhour [slth] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:16 dang I really should be finishing slex 2.70, but even though today's tour wasn't that long by comparison, it still was rather exhausting 15:17 had to work on eight trains shortly after one another, with little breaks in between 15:19 LarienTelrunya: could be worse, could be a pantograph 15:19 heh 15:20 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 15:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] beastly (Ana Vam Mal Neu), 6109 points, T:2270, killed by a Woodland-elf 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible dbanethacker's ghost, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:29792 15:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] beastly (Rog Dro Mal Neu), 220 points, T:399, killed by a dwarf 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:30567 15:39 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) destroyed hothraxxa's ghost, the former Swashbuckler, on T:49942 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 604 points, T:2151, killed by an uninjured small mimic 15:44 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 15:44 !rng work on slex | play elona | wank off | ask amateurhour for advice 15:44 LarienTelrunya: play elona 15:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1114 points, T:2379, fell into a pit of iron spikes 15:47 LarienTelrunya: You need artifact loadstones that grant reflection, magic resistance, and half physical damage when carried. That's three stones, one property each. 15:48 that's still be better than the stone of magic resistance jonadab 15:48 -!- lxlldr has quit [Quit: Quit] 15:48 And an artifact pair of iron gauntlets of fumbling that grant half spell damage when worn. 15:49 jonadab: alright, will add :) 15:49 it curses itself over time and whilst cursed makes you take double damage from all sources 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:19103 15:49 give me the artifact loadstone instead 15:49 Heh. 15:49 I still like the artifact loadstone that does quadruple damage when used as sling ammo. 15:50 Actually, maybe just make all loadstones do really good damage when used as sling ammo, and let the player use a stack of them. Because why not. 15:50 there are various badgraystones in slex that deal extra damage when fired by a sling, but every time you fire them they'll re-curse so you'd need the remove curse spell to use them for that purpose :P 15:50 Sure, that was a given. 15:51 Actually, make the spell of remove curse not work on them so you have to use a consumable (spell or holy water). 15:51 loadstones do deal d40 base damage when fired with a sling in slex 15:51 don't bother maining slings as usual, got it 15:52 Also, make loadstones not stack when cursed. 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed wand of cancellation", on T:49961 15:54 * amateurhour takes notes 15:54 I reckon you'll be on santa's naughty list this year jonadab 15:54 enjoy your coal 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12743 15:55 amateurhour: slex was never going to be playable anyway. 15:55 heh, here in germany, being on the naughty list means that servant Ruprecht comes and whips your butt with a rod :P 15:55 LarienTelrunya: I thought that depended if you were in northern Germany or southern Germany. 15:55 jonadab: it's almost playable atm, but someone keeps making really evil suggestions :P 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 603 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30167 15:56 oh yeah Amy, forgot to mention 15:56 > amateurhour said that I'm supposedly adding monsters with hippie heels and leather peep-toes because he had died to those in the past... did I actually do that? 15:56 literally the commit before that lol 15:57 Why not leather heels and hippie peep-toes? 15:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1150 15:57 lol really, I did? well I guess I did, probably can't remember because I'm always so tired when I get home from a tour 15:57 And saddle shoes, which _of course_ can also be used as a saddle, because it's punny. 15:58 And moon boots 15:58 I think someone suggested moon boots recently 15:58 And the shoe phone from Get Smart. 15:58 as artifact boots that bestowed both levitation and fumbling 15:58 lol 15:58 that's funny enough to definitely be it 15:59 Glass slippers. 16:00 Moccasins. And water moccasins, which are like regular moccasins but grant water walking. 16:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 5177 points, T:1490, killed by a gnome zombie 16:00 is there anything that prevents heel attacks? 16:00 like reduces likelihood of them just ending your game outright 16:01 there's several pairs of mocassins in slex already, including "heroine mocassins" that are based on a particular pair that my roommate (♥) sometimes wears during summer 16:01 I had those as speed boots once which was pretty epic 16:01 amateurhour: if you play soviet mode, the various special attacks used by monsters with high heels are 5 times less likely 16:01 that requires you to play soviet mode though muahahahaha :D 16:02 yeah but I'm not gonna have half the text in russian just to not get instakilled 16:03 Snakes should be immune to heel attacks. Because you have to crush their head, and they only bruise your heel. 16:03 (Bad joke, I know.) 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 500 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30515 16:06 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1459 16:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:27912 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:19813 16:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 95646 points, T:28691, killed by an invisible human priest called Janne the Priest, while paralyzed by a monster 16:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:41164 16:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:45214 16:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:48239 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:13885 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:48258 16:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41569 16:34 I hate this fucking internet so much 16:36 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:2036, rt[0:02:13] 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:48300 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) put the invisible Death down for a little nap, on T:48328 16:38 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3182, rt[0:04:36] 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed figurine of an ogre", on T:48338 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed figurine of an ogre", on T:48338 16:43 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6024, rt[0:08:47] 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2183041 points, T:48346, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/UniDuck/nethack/dumplog/1608046338.nh.html 16:44 <@UniDuckRunAmuck> yayy 16:44 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 6250 points, T:3663, petrified by a petrification trap 16:45 POG 16:45 grats 16:45 also how has Lux not completed soko within 2 minutes 16:45 i am disappointed in the dream 16:47 <@UniDuckRunAmuck> unfortunately i couldn't get the other ogre (fiona) to be a pet 😦 16:47 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/817151237279580210/unknown.png 16:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:7967, rt[0:15:06] 16:49 -!- honu has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:50 <{Demo}2> I could enter the bigroom in way less time 16:50 ye lol luxidream n00b 16:50 15 mins bigroom shaking my smh 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (fire ants), on T:2615 16:51 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:53 <@Tone> @UniDuckRunAmuck congrats! 16:54 \o/ 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2921 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:31658 16:55 gratz UniDuck 16:55 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9949, rt[0:21:05] 16:55 <@UniDuckRunAmuck> thanks 😄 16:55 13 mins sokoban smh my head my head 16:55 <{Demo}2> my top speed for luckstone and soko is 30 seconds 16:55 <{Demo}2> I type really fast 16:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:37118 16:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:37119 16:56 <{Demo}2> that's why I wasn't invited to race because everyone knows they'd lose to my copy and pastes 16:56 luxidream can u do all my practise for me? thanks 16:56 idk what my best is for either but i've managed to dive to luckstone and levport out pretty fast on the odd occasion 16:57 [backscroll] of course amy likes the rules for monopoly that lead to a bad unending gameplay experience 16:57 amateurhour: don't forget to have him upload the amygdala and spinal cord neural pathwathway updates to ur system 16:57 <@deathsushi> Whoa, did you clear out the plane? 16:57 <{Demo}2> my number one nethack speedrunning start is to play luxidream ttyrecs and press keys really fast and pretend it is me playing 16:57 <{Demo}2> strat 16:57 that's actually a great idea Demo I shall do that on Sunday 16:57 <{Demo}2> better yet, do that to ais's tas 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 963 points, T:1847, killed by a wounded giant spider 16:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:00 <{Demo}2> I'm actually the rightful owner of the "Stella" hardfought account and would like to claim the speedrun.com leaderboard position of it and also state that aoei has just been pretending to own that account, unknowingly to me, and stealing credit for all my runs 17:00 <{Demo}2> ^another speed running strat 17:00 lmao 17:00 before I read it all i was for a split second genuinely concerned 17:01 because there is another user who owns Stella on NAO 17:01 <{Demo}2> I'm actually luxi, like he is just my alt, so I actually hold the world record 17:02 <{Demo}2> ^ boom, another speed running strat 17:02 Congrats Duck 17:02 wow gratz on WR Demo 17:02 amazing work Demo 17:02 didn't know you had it in u 17:02 that's such a pro gamer move 17:02 naaa jk 17:02 i knew you did 17:02 Pog 17:02 breb 17:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:05 <@UniDuckRunAmuck> i wish lol. it just looks uncluttered because I used jumping+wand of teleportation to blitz through a lot of the horde. Also, purple worms, my favorite strat 17:07 congrats UniDuck 17:07 <@deathsushi> UniDuckRunAmuck Ahhhh, gotcha 17:08 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:09 <@UniDuckRunAmuck> thank you qt and umbire! 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 216 points, T:470, killed by a water moccasin 17:10 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "", on T:14295, rt[0:36:19] 17:10 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 holy charging", on T:14297, rt[0:36:25] 17:10 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:14298, rt[0:36:33] 17:11 a wish for ""? 17:11 was that a mistake? 17:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Axus, on T:24638 17:11 unexpected wand perhaps 17:11 rapid typed through it 17:11 what is "setseed"? Is it a version for reproducible games? 17:12 yeah 17:12 is that what y'all are using for the competitions? 17:12 it's got a few changes to livelog times of things too 17:12 yeah 17:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:14500, rt[0:38:15] 17:12 cool 17:13 you're probs gonna kick my ass on sunday bouquet lol 17:13 is that the sokoban race? 17:13 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 17:13 yeah 17:14 evilhack sokoban is great as a giant. Just pick up those boulders and move them wherever! 17:14 I should set an alarm for that. What's the start time? 17:14 I don't know if it's been set for definite, but I'd personally prefer somewhere around 5pm UTC 17:15 bouquet: you can't pick up the sokoban boulders until you've solved the level 17:15 you can bring your own 17:15 timezones make things a little awkward, if that's no good for the rest of you I'll just drop out 17:15 that's fine for me in PST 17:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:15 must have been bringing my own boulders 17:16 that's what i do 17:16 is the sokoban competition the first to get from game initiation to end of sokoban or just how fast one can complete sokoban? 17:16 bouquet: yea infinigon did all the RNG stuff to make it possible to set the same seed for more than one player 17:17 a few lil things with livelogging i contributed myself 17:17 gotta head to sleep now but it's soko and luckstone 17:17 night amateurhour 17:17 yea luckstone and soko prize i believe 17:17 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 1202 points, T:1299, killed by a monster (invisible Ms. Parbalingga, the shopkeeper) 17:17 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:15790, rt[0:43:43] 17:18 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15791, rt[0:43:45] 17:21 good night! 17:21 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:16961, rt[0:47:42] 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:31449 17:22 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 674 points, T:1511, killed by nabru's ghost, while being terrified of a ghost 17:24 luxidream pog 17:24 also good night everyone 17:24 i too must pass out 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:31545 17:25 night aoei 17:25 sweet dreams 17:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:38443 17:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:17579, rt[0:54:29] 17:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:17580, rt[0:54:33] 17:29 [hdf-us] [spl] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1387 17:29 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) wished for "holy greased fixed +2 pick-axe", on T:17628, rt[0:55:36] 17:30 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:17667, rt[0:56:15] 17:32 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 167634 points, T:17827, rt[0:57:44], wc[0:57:45], choked on a wraith corpse 17:32 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:32 <@luxidream> oops 17:33 mmmm delicious wraith 17:34 classic 17:34 -!- stenno4 is now known as stenno 17:35 <@luxidream> stupid slow digestion 17:35 <@luxidream> i forgot and left it on 17:35 and then just risked it? 17:36 <@luxidream> if I didn't have slow digestion I knew I would have been safe that 17:36 <@luxidream> there* 17:36 <@luxidream> but I forgot slow digestion was on and so died 17:37 oh you didn't notice that you were satiated 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:21197 17:42 Well, if you're just going to plink away at me with that wand of striking, I won't bother wasting a charge on this wand of death 17:43 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2661, rt[0:06:01] 17:45 [hdf-us] [spl] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 3225 points, T:2498, exterminated by an invisible gargoyle 17:46 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3666, rt[0:08:35] 17:49 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 17:51 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:51 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5718 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 5980 points, T:5852, killed by a heavily wounded mumak 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 11 points, T:289, killed by an uninjured goblin 17:57 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:8510, rt[0:19:58] 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Cav Dwa Mal Law) murdered Slasher, his faithful little dog, on T:1193 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed tsingi's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:11050 17:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:25506 18:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 63112 points, T:9882, [0:25:32], quit 18:04 <@luxidream> yep, just going to throw all my scrolls in the trash 18:04 <@luxidream> i need to stop playing 18:10 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3 points, T:19, [0:00:07], killed by the wrath of Tyr 18:11 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:11 !lastgame dbanethacker 18:11 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1614895829.evil.html 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12991 18:14 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2205, rt[0:04:10] 18:16 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3083, rt[0:05:49] 18:16 <@deathsushi> luxidream: lol 3 points 18:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) killed Oona, on T:26052 18:25 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6202, rt[0:15:17] 18:31 <@deathsushi> !lastgame luxidream 18:31 @deathsushi: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/setseed/dumplog/1614899402.seed.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 18:33 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 cursed genocide", on T:9019, rt[0:23:01] 18:35 <@deathsushi> How are you at level 14 23 minutes in? 18:35 <@deathsushi> That seems ludicrously fast 18:36 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 439 points, T:1053, killed by a piranha 18:38 <@deathsushi> rip 18:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:11966, rt[0:29:31] 18:40 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:11967, rt[0:29:34] 18:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2509 points, T:3604, killed by a wounded soldier ant 18:40 @deathsushi well, he is the world record holder 18:41 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:43 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:13323, rt[0:32:51] 18:43 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 18:44 <@deathsushi> aosdict is Luxidream Tariru? 18:46 <{Demo}2> those r both my alts, so yes 18:47 <@deathsushi> Meaning you're all the same person? 18:47 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy ring of conflict", on T:13892, rt[0:37:06] 18:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:14079, rt[0:38:36] 18:51 <@deathsushi> Question — If I'm a neutral char, get to an altar in the astral plane and its the wrong one, do I take a swing with the helm of opposite alignment, and then if it still doesn't fit, go to the next altar and be ready to uncurse it if needed? 18:51 <@deathsushi> That seems like the right move 18:52 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:14549, rt[0:41:34] 18:53 @deathsushi, you'll lose your divine protection if you have any. 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:106222 18:53 potentially 10AC down the drain 18:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:33785 18:53 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:14734, rt[0:43:03] 18:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:14944, rt[0:44:14] 18:54 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:14951, rt[0:44:21] 18:55 <@deathsushi> bouquet: Ahh... So I might just be better off fighting to the altars 18:56 Yeah 18:56 The helm bit is primarily a speedrun tactic 18:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:15358, rt[0:45:40] 18:56 Or if you really really REALLY wanna avoid grand tours 18:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:15497, rt[0:46:15] 18:57 <@deathsushi> Checked to see which was each rider.. Then accidentally go straight toward Pestilence 18:57 <@deathsushi> 😛 18:57 <@deathsushi> Oh well 18:57 luxidream isn't tariru, they've played games at the same time 18:57 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 full healing", on T:15595, rt[0:47:15] 18:58 <@deathsushi> As for dealing with Death himself, as a wizard, is my best move just to nail him with magicbane? 18:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:15650, rt[0:47:50] 18:58 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:15654, rt[0:47:51] 18:59 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 18:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:106273 19:00 I’m watch Luxi’s game right now, and holy shit. It’s hard to tell, but I think he might have a shot at WR? 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:106308 19:01 @deathsushi use MM from a distance to soften him up, then stab him in the face with magicbane 19:01 He just passed Orcus, and he has ~9 minutes to ascend 19:01 Yeah, MM is your best bet 19:01 Hey Gulp 19:01 Hay 19:01 * Umbire gives AntiGulp a couple to redeem one free hug, valid anytime 19:02 Meant to give this to ya after the poison death 19:02 :D 19:02 Thank thank 19:02 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 40 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:16609, rt[0:51:44] 19:02 AntiGulp: msg for you with BeerHolder 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2868032 points, T:106340, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Deathsushi/nethack/dumplog/1614373648.nh.html 19:03 <@deathsushi> Boom 19:03 oh congrats Deathsushi! 19:03 <@deathsushi> First ascension: 20 years. Second ascension: 2 weeks 😄 19:03 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:16749, rt[0:52:48] 19:03 <@deathsushi> This channel's been a massive help 19:03 Congrats deathsushi!!! 19:03 congratulations 19:03 <@deathsushi> ty ty 19:03 GG man! 19:03 i also took well over a decade for my first 19:03 congrats! 19:04 It took me like, maybe 3-4 years? 19:04 time to ascend before live nethack chat versus time to ascend after live nethack chae 19:04 chat* 19:04 oh snap, your first?? Awesome yo!!!! 19:04 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:16912, rt[0:53:49] 19:04 this was deathsushi's seconds 19:04 oh i see second 19:04 <@deathsushi> Yaya 19:04 second* gah I can't type 19:04 still awesome 19:04 <@deathsushi> Valk and Wiz down, now on to Ranger I think 19:04 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:17031, rt[0:54:15] 19:04 * Umbire puts on appropriate music for Luxi's run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-xNiMrY_ 19:04 or do Tou. Tou are fun. 19:05 try monk 19:05 rogue! 19:05 <@deathsushi> Don't feel like searching every square for traps in the early dungeon just yet 😄 19:05 * Umbire places 1000zm on Rogue 19:05 Seconding monk. Monks are super fun :) 19:05 monks can get at least basic in every spell school (plus unlike wizards, they can fight in the early game) 19:05 tou monk and rogue are all decent, ranger is not actually that fun to play 19:05 <@deathsushi> Oh really? 19:05 <@deathsushi> How come? 19:06 1. Quest fucking sucks 19:06 2. Quest fucking sucks 19:06 <@deathsushi> Is it just hard? 19:06 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 735 points, T:1211, killed by a monster (si-oh-wee orc), while frozen by a potion 19:06 takes a while until you get good arrows (ones that won't disappear) 19:06 you've got the nice +2 arrows but you're like "I can't just shoot these at everything so I better stab things with a dagger and oh look now I'm daggerstorming again wheee" 19:06 3. late game is honestly just kinda piddly 19:06 rogues will get loads of daggers soon 19:06 4. Master of none wrt daggerstorming and things that aren't bows 19:06 Ranger quest isn’t that hard, it’s just very, very tedious. The boss can also make you terminally ill. 19:06 5. The Quest fucking sucks. 19:07 AntiGulp: Agreed 19:07 In 3.7.0 the quest home level, while still terrible, at least doesn't let the peacefuls block your path 19:07 Enjoy being shot at by multiple wands on your way through a maze to get permission to go on a quest for an artifact that has reflection 19:07 Oh god I forgot about 3.6 peacefuls in the ranger quest. Praise aosdict for that change 19:07 Also yeah, the quest artifact is pretty bad :( 19:07 PRAISE ME 19:08 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed gain level", on T:17912, rt[0:57:24] 19:08 * Umbire gives aosdict 10000zm worth of praise 19:08 <@deathsushi> aosdict: Ah right. so why not just play rogue or wiz if I'm going to do that 19:08 Because arrows 19:08 I WILL say that arrows are terribly easy to come by, esp. in the Mines 19:08 Yeah, at least with ranger your long term game is not ALWAYS going to be daggerstorming. 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 boots of speed", on T:14553 19:08 <@deathsushi> Okay, well, let's try out rogue then 19:09 But in the long run it's ehhhhhhhhhh 19:09 Considering your best asset involves temporary projectiles 19:09 Ranger can pelt things with 4-5 silver arrows per turn, late game. But a bit of the not fun part creeps back in when you have to go pick them all back up. 19:09 good job, deathsushi! Enjoy the post-ascension glow for as long as you can. 19:09 ^ 19:09 ^ 19:09 Trust me, it feels great 19:10 do we... not think deathsushi knows how it feels?? 19:10 No. 19:10 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 19:10 But it always feels good. 19:10 oh man. i've been playing since the 80s. didn't ascend until couple years ago lol 19:10 First or otherwise. 19:10 yeah it felt good lol 19:10 Gonna grind more speed games later tonight, I think. I want to make sure I’m practiced for Sunday. 19:10 Also, the "picking up" bit doesn't bug me so much as the fact that you're probably gonna wanna enchant them to do decent damage, and even with that + blessing + max luck they're still gonna mulch 1/4 of the time 19:11 oh are you racing this weekend antigulp? 19:11 That said, seriously 19:11 <@deathsushi> rebatela: Same here 19:11 You gotta TRY to run out of arrows 19:11 @rebatela yeeeee 19:11 nice :) 19:11 Umbire: that's not true, your calculation assumes 0 luck 19:11 My goal is to not make a fool out of myself in Sokoban 19:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:19081, rt[1:01:24] 19:12 i just realized i play kind of fast realtime EXCEPT that i take a lot of turns because i tend to overprepare so it ends up not being fast at all 19:12 max luck, blessed projectiles break much less 19:12 1/4?? has this been changed? 19:12 i thought it's like 2% 19:12 Muad: I'm likely remembering wrong 19:12 (but uncursed ones, probably still 1/4 at max luck. the formula is garbage) 19:12 <@deathsushi> 25% at blessed +2 is what the wiki says 19:12 It happens often 6_9 19:12 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy ring of levitation", on T:19191, rt[1:01:59] 19:12 25% at blessed +2 and 0 luck 19:12 <@deathsushi> Oh sorry, uncursed: (uncursed +2 arrows breakage rate is 25%, while +0 is 67% 19:12 i have 2nd place realtime in evil, but i wasn't trying for speed. i might have beaten tariru's time if i had been aware of it ! 19:12 So yeah, not nearly as ass with max luck 19:13 but still kinda ass for the fact that you have to rely on breakable weapons to begin with 19:13 Tourist you can pivot to damn near anything you want 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the Master Assassin, on T:39211 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39213 19:13 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy wand of death", on T:19344, rt[1:02:54] 19:13 (except the aklys for Some Reason.) 19:13 I say there should be a boomerang role :) 19:13 not club :'( 19:13 <@deathsushi> In exchange for a tedious early game 19:13 AntiGulp: it's called arc 19:13 <@deathsushi> Class: Quigley 19:14 ok fair 19:14 imagine boomerangs being usable in NetHack 19:14 iirc the problem for me hasn't been so much running out of arrows as not using them because i might need them later 19:14 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:19488, rt[1:03:41] 19:14 (previous post brought to you by the Pain and Agony squad) 19:14 How much time left on the record btw? 19:14 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:19498, rt[1:03:50] 19:14 Emile Minty (boomerang kid from Road Warrior) 19:14 Record is just a bit under an hour. He’s already passed it, sadly. 19:14 JESUS 19:14 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:15 Death almost mulched him 19:15 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 977376 points, T:19542, [1:04:29], ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/setseed/dumplog/1614899434.seed.html 19:15 Hell yeah, GG 19:15 GG Luxidream! 19:15 Death came SO close to killing him 19:15 <@luxidream> i had life saving 19:15 <@luxidream> switched it in right before planes 19:16 what did you use before? 19:16 <@luxidream> reflection 19:16 <@luxidream> found a shield of reflection on an aleax 19:16 <@luxidream> that didn't find early wand of wishing so I'm happy with the time 19:17 <@deathsushi> Yah, that was crazy fast dude 19:17 * Umbire applauds 19:18 <@luxidream> AntiGulp: WR is 52:51 so that was nowhere close 19:18 Man, fuck it, I'm gonna try one of these now. 19:18 @luxidream oops, my bad. I was looking at speedrun.com 19:18 I need to set my config though... 6_9 19:18 I keep putting that off and by the time I remember it I've forgotten 19:19 forgotten how* to set it 19:19 <@luxidream> if you click on the 3.6 tab you should see the run 🙂 19:19 Ah, whoops, I was looking at 3.7 :) 19:19 that was above 1h? 19:19 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 142 points, T:307, killed by a monster (sad survivor) 19:19 what a loser run 19:20 my mom would be embarrassed 19:20 <@luxidream> fight me Adeon 19:23 lol 19:24 * Umbire sighs and opens the wiki to crash course himself on configs 19:24 <@luxidream> just steal someone elses 19:25 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:26 <{Demo}2> also just to clear up my speedrun records, adeon is another alt of mine as well 19:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:14913 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:14915 19:27 <{Demo}2> in fact any account that runs a sub 2h run is my alt 19:28 <@luxidream> ok 19:28 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: ZZAZZ] 19:28 <@luxidream> add "I am demo" to the top of all those configs 19:28 <@luxidream> go 19:28 <{Demo}2> I'm actually their alt 19:30 -!- slackerwacker11 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:31 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 19:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master liches), on T:21551 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided arch-liches, on T:21552 19:37 @v?water nymph 19:37 water nymph (n) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 20 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Attacks: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, swims, teleports, infravisible 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1920 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 81 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:16145 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:37555 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37557 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2427 points, T:2707, killed by a wounded gnome king 19:51 <@deathsushi> I think the water nymphs should be hotter 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:16433 19:51 <@deathsushi> I would never let myself be seduced by someone that just looked like a stupid "n" 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:17121 19:54 yet another unrealistic beauty standard for @ 19:54 😔 19:55 <@deathsushi> 😄 19:55 <@deathsushi> Well, succubus though? 19:55 <@deathsushi> & 19:56 <@deathsushi> Check out those curve 19:56 <@deathsushi> s 19:56 see previous comment 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:18713 19:56 <@deathsushi> sees it 19:56 <@deathsushi> daaaaaaaamn 19:56 <@deathsushi> totally saw it 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:16795 20:00 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:22795 20:08 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:23064 20:09 oh did antigulp leave already 20:09 nvm 20:10 AntiGulp: does 12 pm est work for you on sunday? 20:10 I think so? 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:18257 20:12 cool, looks like it's fine with everyone then 20:12 12 pm est it is 20:13 oh, you should also practice monk 20:13 and a role that you like 20:15 <@deathsushi> Is there a reason I would polymorph twice in a row? I have two 300 zk rings on, but they are unique to each other 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:19724 20:16 [hdf-us] [spl] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 4 points, T:45, inhumed by a serval 20:16 ? 20:16 I don't understand fully 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:18653 20:17 <@deathsushi> So I have two rings on 20:17 <@deathsushi> And I polymorphed into a lich, and then the next turn into an ochre jelly 20:17 so one of them is polymorph 20:17 the other one is not polymorph control 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed fixed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:18655 20:18 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 6680 points, T:2363, petrified by a IU 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:18676 20:20 Oh 20:20 What Luxi said 20:20 That your polymorphed immediately after is just RNG 20:20 And you now know what those rings aren't 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1162618 points, T:18720, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HastyGlord/nethack/dumplog/1614644833.nh.html 20:21 GG 20:21 Sub 20k 20:21 <@910rd> ty! 20:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:20014 20:23 nice 20:23 time? 20:23 <@910rd> no idea didn't time, will play on the setseed variant in the future 20:24 <@910rd> waiting on the scoreboard 20:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 383190 points, T:42658, petrified by Medusa 20:25 they should give us personal xlogfiles 20:25 like on nao 20:26 otherwise I have to wait for the us xlogfile to load 20:26 13411 seconds 20:26 <@910rd> 3:43 20:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3830 points, T:3681, quit 20:27 <@910rd> two minuted faster than pb 😛 20:27 we take those 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 43 points, T:108, killed by a boiling potion 20:29 <@deathsushi> Ah got it, so there's nothing to stop two polymorphs in a row 20:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:45824 20:39 !who 20:40 luxidream: [hdf-us] Frozty [nh370] Deathsushi [nh370] CropperS [nh370] oh6 [nh370] SamG [nh370] KrO2 [dnh] RohoDragon [slex] AlleyOop [xnh] KaiHerd [spl] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 20:43 3:43 *squints* 20:43 on 370 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:26723 20:45 gotta go fast 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 322 points, T:1947, killed by a heavily wounded large mimic 20:48 -!- ThaEwat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:48 -!- beastlyfido has joined #hardfought 20:49 I wanna race someone but I'd get smoked by everyone in here 20:49 😔 20:49 -!- drunkmonkey has joined #hardfought 20:50 but I still want the practice 20:51 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1250 points, T:1200, rt[0:05:26], wc[0:05:43], killed by a wounded giant spider 20:51 Don’t worry I’m going to get smoked 20:52 but you're still better than me :c 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:26796 20:57 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:1163, rt[0:05:22] 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:26920 21:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] beastly (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 3410 points, T:1381, killed by a Mordor orc 21:02 Umbire, not me. i'm the slowest player around by both turncount and realtime 21:02 I've never once speedrun this game so 21:02 odds are I might legit be slower 21:04 Wait… that should have been the luckstone, but livelog didn’t say anything 21:04 fuk 21:05 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2849, rt[0:13:18] 21:05 There we go 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:25163 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25164 21:05 speed..run? hah! when i really try, in the tournaments, i get 1 asc every 2 or 3 days maybe 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Robber, on T:23488 21:06 probably like 8 hours playtime 21:08 well, no one in the race on Sunday has speedrun the game either :) 21:09 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3905, rt[0:18:04] 21:10 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:1888 21:12 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8958 points, T:4077, rt[0:20:20], wc[0:20:21], killed by a wounded gargoyle 21:12 2 gargoyles spawned at once :( 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:25743 21:12 <@luxidream> !lastgame antigulp 21:12 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/antigulp/setseed/dumplog/1614909106.seed.html 21:13 Should E-worded 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Burglar, on T:24026 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3333 21:15 :( 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3948 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3979 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by consulting with the priest of Poseidon, on T:3993 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:4118 21:21 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1670, rt[0:05:42] 21:22 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:1979, rt[0:06:44] 21:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3258 21:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3308 21:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 daggers on an altar, on T:3318 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:3162 21:28 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3746, rt[0:12:49] 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1865 points, T:3305, killed by a wounded Uruk-hai 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 950 points, T:5150, killed by a nearly deceased dwarf 21:31 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4404, rt[0:15:32] 21:32 -!- ThaEwat has joined #hardfought 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 647 points, T:2328, killed by a wounded dog 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 28 points, T:104, killed by an uninjured fox 21:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:38749 21:46 <@Jack Mordred> I didn't understood that the bots was talking alone 21:46 <@Jack Mordred> 😂 21:47 :v 21:47 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6462, rt[0:31:41] 21:47 Ay, nice. Fastest I’ve done that! 21:48 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10796 points, T:6476, rt[0:32:53], wc[0:32:54], choked on a food ration 21:49 <@luxidream> 👍 21:49 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:38786 21:49 <@luxidream> great run! 21:49 <@luxidream> try monk next 21:50 <@princessSpicycat> so that was 31:41 for both luxstone and soko? 21:50 @luxidream Ye, monk time! 21:50 @princessSpicycat Yup :D 21:51 <@princessSpicycat> luxidream is so bored of being the best, he's training up the competition. this is cute. 21:52 <@princessSpicycat> i tried doing some of these speedruns and the instructions say "fight a dwarf", so i followed them to the letter and died 21:52 Getting the luckstone is (knock on wood) really easy with Valkyrie. I’m terrible at Soko though. Grumble grumble 2a grumble 21:52 <@luxidream> tip: you can use elbereth to hit the heavily armored dwarfs 21:52 <@luxidream> the to-hit bonus from them fleeing makes a difference 21:53 <@princessSpicycat> wow, secret tech 21:53 <@princessSpicycat> use elbereth to punch buns 21:53 <@princessSpicycat> it's not just forsaving buns anymore 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Canon, on T:11209 21:54 <@luxidream> also I'm pretty sure there's no point in speedrunning if no one else is doing it 🙂 21:55 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) put the invisible Death down for a little nap, on T:38855 21:59 <@princessSpicycat> ^ okay that's funny 21:59 <@princessSpicycat> when did orcranger start playing orcrangers? 22:00 <@princessSpicycat> also what's Umbire's nethackscoreboard name 22:00 <@princessSpicycat> i need to see if he's qualified to rewrite the Knight article 22:00 """qualified""" 22:00 Do you *really* want to push this button today? 22:01 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2932 points, T:1195, rt[0:07:04], wc[0:07:05], killed by a slightly wounded invisible gnome lady 22:01 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) put the invisible Death down for a little nap (5 times), on T:38906 22:02 <@luxidream> I trust Umbire 22:03 I've literally been doing as much as I can to help improve other pages and I literally solicit the advice of people like luxidream when I'm not sure on something and/or trust them to follow up after me as I tend to do with others in case anything's missed. 22:04 <@luxidream> you're good dude 22:04 <@luxidream> just go easy on the semicolons 😄 22:04 * Umbire throws an eel corpse at luxidream 22:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Cav Hum Mal Law), 1958 points, T:3293, killed by an uninjured wolf 22:07 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:38976 22:07 hmm 22:07 some good information for the wiki would be average stats for each role 22:08 They actually have that in the attributes page, I think 22:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Famine (5 times), on T:38984 22:08 and/or the roles article 22:08 but not on the role pages themselves 22:08 which is worth doing 22:08 there is a table with the rolls 22:08 but no average 22:08 Is it tied to one of those table thingies tho 22:09 I swore I saw an average at some point 22:09 oh there is median starting attributes on the roles page 22:09 wonder how accurate that is 22:10 str is a little weird because it's adjusted up if you would be burdened 22:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Arbalester, on T:39007 22:12 Yeah 22:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 2042092 points, T:39021, ascended 22:15 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/nethack/dumplog/1614064815.nh.html 22:15 GG 22:16 <@910rd> gg! 22:16 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 7950 points, T:2243, rt[0:14:26], wc[0:14:27], killed by a slightly wounded fire elemental 22:16 <@910rd> F 22:16 don't hit those lol 22:17 !lastgame antigulp 22:17 AntiGulp: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/antigulp/setseed/dumplog/1614913333.seed.html 22:17 <@910rd> yeah those passives are pretty brutal 22:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] beastly (Nob Vam Mal Neu), 7578 points, T:2289, petrified by trying to tin a cockatrice without gloves 22:17 Yup. Didn’t help that I picked up the loadstone instead of the luckstone :/ 22:18 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:19 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 22:19 @v?gnome 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:11514 22:19 damn 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "oilskin sack", on T:27279 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:11516 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed +3 t-shirt", on T:27281 22:25 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26 -!- k-man has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:29 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1505, rt[0:10:38] 22:29 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law), 7110 points, T:5546, killed by an uninjured grid bug 22:32 -!- k-man has joined #hardfought 22:36 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3375, rt[0:18:02] 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:19966 22:44 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 22:49 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:49 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law), 556 points, T:2431, killed by a wand, while sleeping 22:51 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5310, rt[0:32:26] 22:51 wooo 22:52 [hdf-us] [seed] antigulp (Mon Hum Fem Law), 11778 points, T:5335, rt[0:33:22], wc[0:33:23], killed by an uninjured killer bee called Sonic Speed 22:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:43129 22:54 <@luxidream> 👏 22:54 Your speedrun guide has been super helpful, Luxidream. 22:54 Thank you for writing it! 22:55 thanks 22:55 I'm looking to add more to it 22:55 I put 2a through a sokosolver and it comes up with a more efficient solution, but I haven't memorized it yet 22:56 I might have figured out a really fast way to do Soko 3 by breaking one boulder. Did it last game, but will have to experiment more with it. 22:56 *3b 22:56 I’m so garbage at 2a though. I panic and forget the solution every time 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) murdered Idefix, his faithful little dog, on T:1103 22:59 I just do that one by the book 22:59 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/817244903318093895/unknown.png 23:00 <@luxidream> I'm guessing you break a boulder here? 23:00 Yeah. 23:00 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2118 23:00 Can’t remember exactly what I did though. Brain is fried 23:01 Brain so fried not even a mind flayer would eat 23:04 good runs tho 23:04 Thank you! 23:04 if you pull that off on sunday you'll probably win xD 23:04 I’m really enjoying practicing this 23:04 LOL I doubt I can pull this off under pressure but I’ll try :D 23:05 i feel that 23:05 I was sooo nervous on my race lol 23:05 even amateurhour noticed 23:05 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Tha Fie Mal Law), 6437 points, T:1981, killed by a monster (dwarf lord mutant) 23:05 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:2420 23:08 -!- luxidream has quit [Quit: Really quit? (Y/N)] 23:10 <@deathsushi> As a rogue, sac'ing on an altar isn't really worth it for a gift I guess eh? 23:11 <@deathsushi> Where is that? 23:11 <@deathsushi> (The speedrun guide) 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 5981 points, T:5207, killed by an invisible shambling horror, while paralyzed by a monster 23:14 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Luxidream/How_to_win_really_fast 23:14 i think 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:22702 23:15 That’s the one! 23:15 [hdf-us] [spl] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2011 points, T:3030, killed by an arrow 23:15 <@princessSpicycat> correct 23:17 I’m still trying to decide what to run for my third role. 23:17 <@deathsushi> Nice thank you Muad 23:18 I’m thinking Barbarian for poison resistance + easy melee. No stealth, but besides that seems relatively consistent. 23:19 Rogues can get Stormy but 23:19 that's Stormy 23:19 Oh you mean for speedruns 23:20 Allow me to abstain them lmfao 23:20 Lol I just really want stealth for the Sokoban zoo. Makes it so much easier 23:22 <@luxidream> ranger and rogue both have stealth 23:22 <@luxidream> but they have other problems 23:22 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed shadowrider38's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:3267 23:23 <@luxidream> the ultimate power move would be wizard 23:23 <@luxidream> finish castle, quest 23:23 <@luxidream> then use eota to skip all the sokoban levels 23:24 What a flex 23:25 <@luxidream> actually, wishing for eota would be interesting 23:25 <@luxidream> in general 23:25 <@luxidream> i wonder how much time that saves 23:25 i like that you can use boulder breaking as a strategy here 23:25 quite the interesting aspect 23:26 <@luxidream> could be annoying if you go soko first 23:26 arc starts with pickaxe and can do prot racket, and also has peaceful mines 23:26 <@luxidream> also is there anything that is faster with boulder breaking, but not pushing boulders into a corner? 23:26 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 23:26 <@luxidream> oh yes arc also has stealth 23:26 you don't neccessarily have the space for pushing boulders where you want them 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:4654 23:26 <@luxidream> just need to survive random sokoban monsters 23:27 yeah 23:27 and mines end can be nasty depending on layout 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a bolt of fire), on T:20085 23:27 <@luxidream> can you show me an example of one of the puzzles that would be faster by breaking a boulder, but not by pushing one into an inaccessible location? 23:28 not right now, but maybe later today 23:29 <@deathsushi> Is it a risk trying on uncursed magical helmets, due to hitting opp. alignment? 23:30 @deathsushi I tend to curse test first to be safe, unless I’m feeling impatient. 23:31 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:31 hooa autocurses 23:31 Aw heck, stenno is right 23:31 <@luxidream> generates 90% cursed though 23:31 <@luxidream> so you can avoid most of them 23:32 <@deathsushi> luxiderp — ah okay 23:32 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 18479 points, T:4708, killed by a monster (invisible red stalker) 23:32 <@deathsushi> So even though it swaps on wear, I'm usually okay anyhow 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 32727 points, T:20130, killed by a troll, while sleeping 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:5990 23:34 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 23:35 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5932 23:39 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] beastly (Pri Hlf Mal Law), 756 points, T:2551, died of starvation 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] SamG (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Scout, on T:24265 23:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] drunkmonkey (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3681 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:6737 23:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7173 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:7236 23:57 <@deathsushi> I've price-tested my helmets, and then tried it on. I know it's either tele/brilliance or OA. I put it on. My intelligence doesn't increase, and my alignment doesn't shift, so it must be telepathy — does this only work when I'm blind? 23:57 <@deathsushi> Fromt he wiki, I should be able to see monsters, but I can't 23:57 <@deathsushi> So what could I be missing? 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3748 23:58 [hdf-us] [slex] RohoDragon (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 182 points, T:497, killed by a shotgun shell 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:3808