00:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2898 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3220 00:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:15412 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Arc Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:16051 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4318 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4341 00:18 -!- hackedhead has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] telegarn (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 27380 points, T:15841, killed by an energy vortex 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:16207 00:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:16678 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Arc Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:16430 00:27 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:27 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:4767 00:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed the master key of thievery", on T:16994 00:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:17005 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2168 points, T:4988, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 00:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of reflection", on T:17018 00:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed fixed potions of gain level", on T:17021 00:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Curate, on T:17022 00:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", on T:17155 00:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:17207 00:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17208 00:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:17295 00:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:17321 00:42 !ping 00:42 moon-child: Pong! 00:44 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3031 00:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 197930 points, T:18194, killed by barely wounded Asmodeus 00:51 F 00:51 Someone forgot their cold res I take it? 00:51 hmm, no crowning. no cold res and asmo becomes dangerous 00:52 <@luxidream> !lastgame microlance 00:52 i ate atleast 2 yetis even 00:52 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/nethack/dumplog/1614311308.nh.html 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3235 00:52 Those are 1/3 chance aren't they 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3248 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3259 00:52 Always gotta check for that message 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 6 darts on an altar, on T:3263 00:53 i dont even know why he attacked me :/ must have sniffed out my weakness 00:53 No stealth either? 00:54 <@luxidream> The nalfeshnee casts a spell! You feel that monsters are aware of your presence. 00:54 Oh that'll do it 00:55 yeah they got that aggravate thingie 00:55 <@luxidream> also stealth doesn't matter 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2420 points, T:4065, killed by an uninjured vampire bat 00:58 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:39 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiterer, on T:13493 02:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:07 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:14887 02:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible coplate's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2555 02:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1349 points, T:2153, quit 03:03 [hdf-us] [slex] Darothok (Pir Sen Fem Cha), 4568 points, T:1191, killed by a monster (hobbit king) 03:03 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4572 03:06 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 9495 points, T:4877, killed by a dwarvish soldier 03:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 82 points, T:159, killed by a giant mimic 03:14 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 03:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:18397 03:39 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54392 03:43 [hdf-au] [gh] PeachMuffin (Hea Gia Mal Neu), 555 points, T:789, killed by a rothe 03:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law), 95979 points, T:10643, killed by a heavily wounded minotaur, while praying 03:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:52 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2457 points, T:2708, killed by a gas cloud 03:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1661 points, T:3592, killed by a giant ant 04:23 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 04:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:26 -!- Nelennath_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:26 -!- Nelennath has joined #hardfought 04:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:9794 04:32 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 04:33 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a yeti corpse, on T:3143 04:36 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 4485 points, T:4761, killed by a wolf 04:36 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:37 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 04:38 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonbane", on T:3824 04:52 -!- Nelennath has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:52 -!- Nelennath has joined #hardfought 04:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful dog, on T:2452 04:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4394 04:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spammailer90 (Val Hum Fem Law), 1435 points, T:2492, killed by an uninjured mumak 04:57 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:11 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 8821 points, T:6001, killed by an owlbear 05:15 in 6 hours, bitcoin future contracts expire, and then the constant btc dump should stop 05:15 and then we gotta see how much the value will recover 05:15 and if the same thing happens next month too 05:16 if the same thing happens next month during future expire week, i will probably quit crypto 05:19 does that happen with stock too? i mean why should i invest in a stock of which a large part is held by a single entity 05:20 this entity can manipulate the price of the share at will basically 05:22 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:44 i mean if i hold like 10% of a stock, i could buy shorts, then dump my stock, and on top of it make even more money with the shorts 05:44 and then i can buy when its low again 05:46 Stocks generally aren't being mostly pumped with fairy gold, though 05:47 (indeed, surely what's happening to bitcoin right now is just that Tether aren't printing any more fairy gold) 05:48 the thing that is happening with bitcoin right now is that f2pool dumped like 400k bitcoin from their mining pool in the last days 05:54 Pinkbeast: https://i.imgur.com/ED9XBQZ.png 05:55 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 05:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:1516 05:57 Uh, so that shows them selling as the tulip bulbs go from 30-something-k to 58k, and still selling as they go back down. Now draw a line on that to show the day when the fairy gold dried up. 05:58 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:59 not sure how tether is related here 06:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2107 06:00 -!- tromix has quit [Quit: fBNC - https://bnc4free.com] 06:02 well imma do some more ressearch regarding that 06:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:2965 06:11 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 06:14 -!- tromix has quit [Client Quit] 06:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:3705 06:17 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 06:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4047 06:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4499 06:21 -!- tromix has quit [Client Quit] 06:26 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Cthulhu, on T:54869 06:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:6584 06:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7823 06:40 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 06:44 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55304 06:44 -!- tromix has quit [Client Quit] 06:47 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 06:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9506 06:50 !coffee 06:50 * Beholder throws nabru a mug of espresso, excreted by the late Pinobot at 142 degrees Fahrenheit. 06:50 -!- tromix has quit [Client Quit] 06:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:10266 06:56 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 06:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:10448 07:00 [hdf-eu] [un] Singhend (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:55792 07:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:11065 07:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 368 points, T:689, killed by a soldier ant 07:17 go team a! 07:17 If there's one thing I miss about DCSS it's that ants aren't horrendously lethal 07:18 stenno3: read up on wash trading and how that's illegal. that's why the finance guys love crypto. they can use all the old tricks again 07:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided woodchucks, on T:12103 07:19 bhaak: Although just printing Monopoly money and hoping everyone pretends it's real is... I think you have to go back to the Railway Mania for that one 07:22 Pinkbeast: you mean Tether? the surprising fact about the slap on the wrist they just got is that they more or less were backed completey (with a few exceptions). they would be out of business now if they weren't. 07:29 It's not clear to me that that is the case. NYAG says they lied persistently up to Feb 2019 when they stopped claiming to be backed with real money. 07:30 So the situation now presumably is that they are "backed", but mostly with tulip bulbs they bought in order to pump the price. 07:31 This is not _per se_ fraudulent, since from Feb 2019 they've admitted as much. 07:31 But the disclosure under para 57.f in 90 days should be _fascinating_ 07:32 according to an article I read yesterday, it's not quite tulip bulbs but it's mostly "equity in their bitfinex affiliate, which was worth $1 at some point" 07:33 (Also, since the settlement requires they stop commingling, it's not really clear NYAG _could_ have any clear picture of whether their cash reserves, such as they are, are really there for the purpose of the redemptions they never do, or just slush money being zipped around.) 07:33 they "lend" bitfinex some money, that's how they lost the 1:1 USD backing but they got it back by now 07:33 it seems to be there believable enough to not trigger a more detailed inquiry 07:34 aosdict: They must have loads - after all the whole point of the scam is to buy bulbs to keep the price high and sell them (at a lower rate) to extract money from incoming suckers. 07:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:13949 07:34 with bulbs you mean bitcoin? 07:34 bhaak: Yes. 07:34 but that's not their business 07:34 That's not what they _say_ their business is, but they are liars. 07:34 if you specifically mean bitcoin, then I don't think that tether has bought bitcoin 07:35 their business is converting USD to USDT which then gets mostly sent to bitfines to buy crypto 07:35 also, I don't think tulip mania was an orchestrated pump and dump, wasn't it a fad/bubble that just inevitably burned out? 07:35 it's "give us $$$ and we give you fake dollar which we are not obliged to redeem for real $$$" 07:36 aosdict: yes, that's my understanding as well 07:36 bhaak: Yeah. So they say. So, do you believe that all of a sudden exponentially increasing numbers of people think that's a great deal, even though they could just buy bulbs with real money? 07:36 but the fake dollars are accepted enough in the crypo economic system that it gets used also outside of bitfinex 07:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 650 points, T:996, killed by a wounded giant spider, while praying 07:37 Pinkbeast: fiat ramps are still not that common. I'm pretty sure Tether had to show their inflow of cash. I mean, the trouble only started when they didn't have a bank account anymore. but now they have one and the bank can easily show how much dollars are inflowing 07:38 Pinkbeast: remember that there is a lot of dollars out there now. lots of people don't know where to put their fiat 07:42 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 992 points, T:2056, killed by a hill orc 07:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "magic marker", on T:14266 07:42 morning 07:44 It's not _that_ common for exchanges to take real money (because of the way pesky banks make you do KYC/AML) but they're out there, and normally the exchange is quite happy to _take_ real money, they just get awkward about paperwork when people want to cash out. The exponential increase in Tether printing doesn't match the actual volume of trade; it beggars belief that it's real demand. (And we're 07:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:14320 07:44 told it's institutional now; do _Tesla_ have to buy Monopoly money as an intermediate step?) 07:45 (also, we are compelled to believe that this demand entirely dried up, coincidentally, after the "slap on the wrist"...) 07:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of teleport control", on T:14333 07:48 Pinkbeast: USDT printing has always been somewhat erratic. it's possible they only have a few OTC traders. but I stay by the conclusion that they would have been closed down or completely banned from the US if they were really printing Tether without backing. 07:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:14707 07:49 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 910 points, T:2364, killed by a pony 07:50 It's not clear NYAG has the authority to completely ban them from anywhere but NY (where they have been completely banned); but as said, I think they do have "backing", in the form of tulip bulbs - which since Feb 2019 has not been a lie. 07:52 there was an insane USDT dump on feb 3 07:52 K2: incidentally I realise this is kind of OT and could knock it off if you like, especially since I doubt anyone's going to avoid being fleeced because of anything I write. :-/ 07:52 like they dump 1 billion twice in january, and then 2.3 billion on feb 3 07:52 Pinkbeast how long have you been hanging out in this channel? :) 07:52 OT is fine 07:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:14888 07:53 'issued supply' 07:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of flying", on T:14890 07:54 bhaak: Also, AFAIK the documents ordered in the NYAG case predate the explosion in printing post March 2020. They got them later than that, but I'm not aware they were required to reflect anything other than the time period originally being investigated. 07:54 it is very interesting seeing you talk about this because i will learn about all this stuff with that 07:54 So AFAIK NYAG has no way of knowing what the current situation is. 07:55 sorry the 2x 1 billion dumps were in september 2020 07:56 stenno3: Well, here's what I think is going on. There's a fundamental problem in that a) Bitcoin is a worthless asset (it produces no income (unlike, say, property you can rent out) and can't be processed to increase its value (unlike, say, a lump of copper). It's only worth buying if you can sell it to a greater fool (no offense, but "greater fool" is the term of art) 07:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:15080 07:56 Pinkbeast: I mean this largely also describes fiat currency 07:56 But! It's worse than a regular purely speculative asset in that miners generate large electricity bills which have to be paid with real money, so there's a constant outflow of real money. 07:57 aosdict: Not so but that's a parenthical diversion 07:57 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 816 points, T:2212, killed by a dingo, while praying 07:57 you're describing digital gold 07:57 This outflow of real money can only be met by getting fresh suckers to buy in. 07:57 bhaak: That's another parenthical diversion. 07:58 no. gold is also quite overvalued for what it is, producing it is also an economical disaster, and most people only want to have it because they think other people want it 07:59 As long as "number go up", everything is fine. People in general don't cash out, more real money flows in than out, people make huge paper gains and aren't concerned that there isn't even remotely enough real money around to realise those paper gains 07:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:15278 07:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15279 07:59 Your analysis is also assigning zero value to the whole "decentralized means of exchange" thing, which is why a lot of people got into bitcoin in the first place 08:00 most people don't care about decentralization 08:00 bhaak: briefly - yes, gold (which I also would not suggest buying to get rich quick) has many of these problems but less so - it has _some_ value to provide a floor, it's somewhat less astronomically inefficient to extract, it's _vastly_ less astronomically inefficient to transact given typically that means getting some Swiss bloke to change the label on a vault somewhere... 08:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:15344 08:00 But what happens if number doesn't go up? Disaster. 08:01 Now, suppose you're Tether. You are also Bitfinex (even though you lied about that); you make a nice little profit on your exchange and it would be a pity if that went away. 08:02 So, you print Monopoly money. You buy tulip bulbs, causing the price to keep going up. You sell some of them (but not all, because you're trying to inflate the price) to incoming suckers, extracting some real money. You have to spend some of that real money on propping up the USDT/USD peg on exchanges that offer that pair, because who _else_ would buy Monopoly money with real money? 08:03 But even so, you're extracting a stream of real money and keeping your exchange business going. 08:03 [hdf-us] [seed] poligono2007 (Val Hum Fem Law), 43 points, T:260, killed by an uninjured water demon 08:03 No-one _else_ in the space wants to rock the boat because as long as _they_ can cash out before the bubble bursts, it's all fine. 08:04 [hdf-us] [slex] poligono2007 (Ble Vee Mal Neu), 0 points, T:3, crushed underneath the backpack's load 08:05 Now, other parenthical diversion: fiat currency has practical utility because you (or people you trade with) can pay your taxes with it and it's very unlikely that will stop being the case. 08:05 !lastgame poligono2007 08:05 amateurhour: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/poligono2007/slex/dumplog/1614344614.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/poligono2007/slex/dumplog/1607856747.slex.txt 08:06 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 677 points, T:1235, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:07 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 08:09 !lastgame potato 08:09 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/potato/dnethack/dumplog/1601306901.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/potato/evilhack/dumplog/1605979027.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/p/potato/nethack/dumplog/1612101536.nh.html 08:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:16225 08:12 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1339 points, T:2126, killed by a magic missile 08:12 !who 08:12 K2: [hdf-us] SkydiveMike [nh370] post163 [nh370] smzp [un] rebatela [evil] | [hdf-eu] luisjo [slshm] microlance [nh370] | [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] 08:12 Pinkbeast: bhaak aosdict thanks for that conversation, i found a lot of stuff that i can look up now 08:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:16724 08:14 stenno3: I think the other thing I'd say to you is... the very nature of a bubble (or Ponzi scheme) is that most people don't cash out before it pops. OFC it's not impossible this is still early stages and it will inflate further... but it's also possible it will pop tomorrow. 08:16 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 909 points, T:1053, killed by a cave spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 08:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:17046 08:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:17047 08:18 UnNetHack updated (all servers) 08:18 Pinkbeast: i will see how the prices are developing after tonight when the short contracts expire 08:18 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:18 in ~3 hours 08:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:17400 08:23 -!- yanah has joined #hardfought 08:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products (pancake) for the first time, on T:3391 08:29 -!- bort13 has joined #hardfought 08:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:18028 08:31 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:25204 08:34 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 08:36 -!- bortle has joined #hardfought 08:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3956 points, T:4998, killed by a gold golem 08:37 -!- bort13 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:39 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:18927 08:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:18936 08:44 -!- stenno3 is now known as stenno 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:25895 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:25897 08:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:19690 08:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:19811 08:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:19813 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 8902 points, T:5222, killed by a giant mimic 08:56 -!- Pinkbeas1 has joined #hardfought 08:56 -!- bortle has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:20958 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fireproof platinum yendorian express card", on T:29300 08:59 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:29577 09:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:21835 09:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:21893 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:30176 09:12 -!- Pinkbeas1 has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:13 !PoM 09:13 APic: The moon is full for 4 more days. 09:13 o/ 09:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:22829 09:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:22869 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:5324 09:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32743 09:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Val Hum Fem Law), 1790426 points, T:22897, ascended 09:17 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/nethack/dumplog/1614336403.nh.html 09:17 congrats 09:17 gg 09:19 that was a short time between killing asmo and entering the planes lol 09:19 wonder what happened there 09:20 speedrunning? 09:21 TIL that the chances for the three different sink kick effects aren't independent: it does 1/3 pudding then 1/3 foocubus then 1/3 ring 09:21 maybe asmodeus said asmodayum and read scroll of tele 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Sorcerer, on T:32832 09:22 so kicking until you get an effect on a fresh sink and getting a ring as the first one is a 1/27 chance 09:22 er wait no 09:22 1/13 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:32851 09:23 asmo read a cursed tele and ended up on like dlvl 5 09:23 what a fraidycat 09:24 3:30:20 wow 09:24 PB? 09:24 1 minute slower then my neutral valk i ascended just before tnnt. when i wasnt even trying to go fast. neutral valk > lawful? 09:24 amazing! 09:25 I think Tariru has the dnh record still 09:26 it's probably changed a lot since then so might not be beatable... 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:30931 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:48088 09:50 !tell hothraxxa https://i.imgur.com/ATNlhj4.jpg 09:50 No worries, stenno, I've got this! 09:53 [hdf-us] [fh] Owen (owen) (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 28998 points, T:1926, killed by a killer bee, while praying 09:54 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:32403 09:58 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:58 -!- bort13 has joined #hardfought 10:00 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:00 good job microlance 10:01 hand reveal :O 10:01 on my thumb you can see a scar which was caused by molten plastic 10:02 <{Demo}2> why is the screen bigger than the book? 10:02 why isn't your screen bigger than a book? 10:02 27" 10:02 Clearly you need bigger books 10:02 more big screen = more leet skills 10:02 everyone knows this 10:03 i like big books and i cannot lie 10:03 wow, that was fast. i hope you enjoy it 10:03 hothraxxa: Message from stenno at 2021-02-26 09:50 EST: https://i.imgur.com/ATNlhj4.jpg 10:03 thanks! 10:03 i am sure i will 10:04 amazon prime 10:06 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 10:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:34224 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 269 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33298 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 45 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33477 10:24 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:50819 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:50821 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:16636 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:50826 10:26 go rebatela 10:27 haven't played vanilla in a while. forgot i had this game going 10:27 i dunno if i've ascended 3.7? not sure what's changed for endgame 10:27 mysterious force has been nerfed a little bit I think 10:28 oh sweet 10:28 I think basically the chances of getting kicked back down over and over go down, like the likelihood decreases for each time it happens? 10:29 not 100% sure if that's right 10:29 sounds right 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:50931 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:50932 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:34503 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:34509 10:38 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:51720 10:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:52019 10:50 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 10:50 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:52178 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:52254 10:54 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:52271 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:52280 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2189118 points, T:52292, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/nethack/dumplog/1591110042.nh.html 10:58 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:58 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 10:58 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:13494 11:04 gg rebatela! 11:07 congrats rebatela! 11:07 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 11:09 GG rebatela 11:09 [hdf-us] [fh] work (kelvin) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 21749 points, T:1749, killed by a leocrotta 11:11 was the 'rider randomly teleports to you' issue addressed yet? 11:12 Randomly? 11:13 we saw in the past that if you kill a rider, it sometimes teleports next to you on revival 11:14 o 11:23 it happened in one of aoei's speedrun games 11:23 so a bunch of us saw it happen 11:24 its true, i was there owo 11:25 maybe its related to monsters zapping undead turning now? 11:25 tried to read the relevant code but its a great spaghetti fiesta so i gave up at some point 11:26 ^ interesting 11:26 possibly, although i thought they only zapped you if you are carrying a corpse 11:26 which i guess most of us on astral are 11:26 <@luxidream> they also zap at corpses if they are between them and the player 11:26 probably carrying lizard corpse 11:26 monster revives rider, it teleports next to you 11:27 ^ K2 11:27 evilhack idea 11:27 well it is in evilhack 11:27 given that evilhack pulls from 3.7 11:27 not yet stenno 11:27 i don't think it does (yet) 11:27 oh it's happened to me a lot, just not on astral 11:27 oh i see 11:27 in evilhack 11:27 makes sense 11:28 however if we're right then it's unintended conseuquences and not a bug 11:28 i've pulled in a few bits from 3.7 into evilhack 11:29 <@luxidream> what would have zapped undead turning there? 11:29 aw the vod of the setseed race has gone, the one that had death teleport 11:29 <@luxidream> I backed it up to youtube 11:29 <@luxidream> just not public yet 11:29 because in that one I don't think anything could have zapped undead turning 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 pair of gauntlets of dexterity", on T:31262 11:29 this is on the evilhack etherpad to-do list: 'NetHack GitHub Commits: Monsters can revive corpses on floor with undead turning https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/ea93c17fa70c7d1f0ceecfeed2107dcac96fc0eb' 11:29 \o/ 11:30 Damn, forgot to fooproof them 11:30 they'll already zap undead turning at you if you have a corpse in open inventory 11:30 undead turning should turn zombies into whatever they were before they were zombies 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16082 11:30 luxidream do you have a link to it? kind of want to attach it to the github issue with timestamp 11:30 brb 11:31 <@luxidream> let me edit it first 11:31 <@luxidream> there's an hour of silence at the end because I forget to cut stream 11:31 <@luxidream> after hosting tone 11:31 lol nice 11:32 could be worse than silence 11:32 oh just cut, ok 11:32 not like 'i had my mic on for one hour' 11:35 hothraxxa: now THAT'S a good idea (the zombies) 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3280 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3310 11:39 hothraxxa: well if they leave corpses, you can still do it 11:39 only way to get an 'elf' monster btw 11:39 but it still gives sleep res i think 11:39 they revive into zombies if you zap at their corpse I think 11:40 well its an elf corpse, not an elf zombie corpse 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class h, on T:74074 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:74076 11:41 The kobold corpse glows iridescently. The kobold zombie is resurrected! The kobold zombie hits! 11:41 just checked in wizmode 11:41 hm 11:41 it does seem like it should be revived back into a normal kobold 11:41 but I guess it was a deliberate choice 11:41 seems i was wrong 11:41 maybe it was like that in 3.4.3? 11:41 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1666 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:74078 11:42 wiki says: 11:42 It can only be created by zapping a wand of undead turning at an elf corpse that is not left by a elf zombie or mummy, 11:42 that is *not* left by an elf zombie or a mummy? so I guess an elf corpse generated in a random trap or something? 11:42 yeah that would be the only way i could think of 11:43 oh but you can still tin it for PR 11:43 err SR 11:43 maybe thats how i mixed it up 11:43 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Mal Law), 28784 points, T:7986, killed by a monster (octon), while paralyzed by a monster's passive attack 11:44 sometimes I will just eat an elf corpse I find on a trap, if you get to them quick enough they can still be good sometimes 11:44 probably a bad idea lol 11:44 maybe grave digging too? 11:44 what really? 11:45 i thought generated corpses were always too old 11:45 unless generated in ice box 11:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:1886 11:47 they are right on the edge of being too old 11:47 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3652 11:47 but if you see one in the first room as soon as you get into the level it might still be good 11:48 they're probably already too old when generated sometimes, but at least some of the time you can get sleep res early from it 11:48 interesting 11:49 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:4456 11:50 Yeah I've done that with trap corpses occasionally 11:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:3019 11:50 And sometimes if I really want the sleep res and have a unihorn on hand 11:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3750 11:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] microlance (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3851 11:55 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:10319 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:16760 11:56 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 18350 points, T:11105, quit 11:58 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 12:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 12:01 [hdf-us] [seed] Luxidream (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1534 12:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14309 12:05 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Mal Law), 1196 points, T:737, killed by a monster (fire ant) 12:05 Go Team Ant! 12:05 should see the amount of ants on that floor lol 12:05 !lastgame 12:05 amateurhour: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/setseed/dumplog/1614357571.seed.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1614358931.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1614334829.evil.html 12:06 elbereth :P 12:06 what's that 12:06