00:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:34562 00:01 holy smokes it works! 00:01 'ipbt --utf8-linedraw -u' 00:02 wait 00:02 im sure i used -u also 00:02 let me try again 00:03 you don't get question marks everywhere? 00:03 sweet glorius utf8 lines! 00:03 why is it working on your system and not mine D: 00:03 [hdf-us] [fh] onon (kelvin) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 20129 points, T:661, killed by a dwarf 00:03 did you link to curses or ncurses? 00:03 what encoding do you use in your terminal? 00:04 should be utf8 00:04 i'm using alacritty 00:05 you using a mac? 00:06 no 00:06 arch linux 00:06 i get the same problem in alacritty or in console vty 00:06 what does 'echo $LANG' return? 00:07 en_GB.UTF-8 00:07 stty says iutf8 00:07 maybe it only recognizes US.UTF-8? 00:07 Simon's a brit so that's an unlikely bug 00:08 maybe he's a double agent? 00:08 lmao 00:08 what do you get with stty 00:08 and what OS are you on 00:08 are you in GMT? 00:08 GMT+1 00:09 I'm using fedora 00:09 what terminal do you use and what does stty spit out 00:09 wow, you're up... late? Early? 00:09 6am but who cares 00:09 late 00:09 lol 00:09 gimme teh output of stty so i can throw it in this email to Simon already 00:09 I use gnome-terminal. stty sez iutf8 00:09 and your terminal program 00:09 hm ok 00:10 speed 38400 baud; line = 0; 00:10 -brkint -imaxbel iutf8 00:10 yeah same exact thing mine spits out 00:10 what does LIBS in the Makefile says 00:10 [hdf-us] [fh] nooope (kelvin) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 8233 points, T:639, killed by a magic missile 00:10 heh, 9pm here. Time for bed! 00:11 that early? 00:11 okey good night 00:11 LIBS = -lm 00:11 ipbt_LDADD = $(LIBOBJS) $(CURSES_LIB) $(CURSES_LIBS) 00:11 $(AM_V_CCLD)$(LINK) $(ipbt_OBJECTS) $(ipbt_LDADD) $(LIBS) 00:11 oh, what about CURSES_LIBS 00:11 sorry everyone for the spam 00:11 CURSES_LIBS = -lncursesw -ltinfo 00:12 hm ok maybe i need to link against those 00:12 i will try that 00:12 thanks 00:12 I have a vm dedicated to dev stuff crammed with every library imaginable. 00:12 I only fire it up for building stuff. I never do it locally. 00:13 so chances are I have some rando library in there that it linked against successfully. 00:13 I hope he can fix it for you. 00:14 want me to ship you my binary? 00:14 nah dw 00:14 i have libncursesw too 00:14 just need to fix the linking 00:15 possibly the fact that i don't have -ltinfo is an issue too 00:15 will rebuild it and see 00:15 good luck! I get up earlier than you go to bed! 00:15 night 00:16 lol! night 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:35427 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:36084 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] 0xdeadfed (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1972 00:32 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 509 points, T:1237, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 crude daggers named !c on an altar, on T:4257 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] 0xdeadfed (Val Dwa Fem Law), 735 points, T:2163, killed by an uninjured giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5164 00:55 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:05 !who 01:05 K2: [hdf-us] ucbvax [slshm] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 01:07 EvilHack updated (all servers) 01:07 ^ bugfixes 01:08 gnite 01:17 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] 0xdeadfed (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 84 points, T:770, killed by a barely wounded giant mimic 01:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 01:57 noice 01:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:28784 01:57 gj k2 01:57 your community <3 u 02:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:01 -!- Umby has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:02 <@luxidream> when you drink potion of monster detection with no monsters 02:03 <@luxidream> you feel lonely 02:03 <@luxidream> n.n 02:06 awe :c 02:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] 0xdeadfed (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 499 points, T:2798, killed by an uninjured coyote, while fainted from lack of food 02:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:03 bouquet: you can also try this version of jettyplay https://github.com/UnNetHack/jettyplayNG/releases 03:04 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:16 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:18 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 03:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 336 points, T:740, killed by a heavily wounded large mimic 03:19 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:19 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:21 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 03:31 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:31 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 03:31 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:7 03:35 [hdf-au] [evil] PeachMuffin (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 1266 points, T:2270, killed by an orc-captain 03:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:29188 03:37 bhaak: did you see the german BILD headline today 03:37 bhaak: "Liebe Briten, we beneiden you" 03:38 they did it again 03:38 another one of those legendary headlines 03:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1235 03:44 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1095 points, T:1767, killed by a pony 03:45 i don't get it 03:47 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:48 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Val Hum Fem Law), 683 points, T:1407, killed by a crossbow bolt 03:48 Muad: it says 'dear brits, we envy you' 03:48 that much i gathered 03:48 Muad: but, we and you are just the english words, not the german ones 'wir' and 'euch' 03:49 its just the way of the BILD headline 03:49 anything goes 03:50 anything geht 03:50 (?) 03:50 yes, very gut 03:50 Du are getting the gist of es 03:51 when ratzinger became pope benedikt, the BILD infamously titled "Wir sind Papst" (we are pope!) 03:52 when USA first landed on the moon, they titled "Der Mond ist jetzt ein Ami!" (the moon is an Ami now) 03:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1895 points, T:2941, killed by a wounded crocodile 03:54 was Meine erste Banane one of Bild's? 03:55 I think that one was in a history book in elementary school 03:55 (in Finland) 03:57 no, that was from the titanic, a satire magazine 03:57 BILD is a 'real' tabloid 03:58 any reason to capitalize the name? 03:58 is that how they style it 03:59 no reason 03:59 i guess its technically 'Bild' 04:00 for some reason i use to capitalize it 04:00 you can't say "used to" in the present tense like that! that's illegal 04:03 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:09 how do i say it present tense while keeping the meaning 04:10 !PoM 04:10 APic: The moon is waxing gibbous; full moon in 2 days. 04:11 'i tend to...' ? 04:11 I am used to 04:11 hmm 04:12 "I tend to" is fine too 04:12 the meaning is different though. there just isn't an equivalent present tense 04:13 there used to, but there isn't any more 04:13 stenno: we might envy them, but I'm not sure if they really should stop the lockdown now. also why envy? it's up to Germany itself that they aren't vaccinating more quickly and that stupid spreading of doubts about the astrazeneca vaccine doesn't help 04:17 I used to: something in the past, but not anymore. I am used to: something that was strange in the past is now familiar. 04:17 so "I tend to" is better 04:17 i think its meant like 'we, the people are envying the UK government for properly having a vaccination infrastructure established, unlike our stupid government' 04:18 which i guess is not exactly wrong 04:18 but also not the whole story 04:18 but i am sure bild itself had a hand to fuel the whole antivaxx movement in germany 04:19 mobileuser: i am sure it isn't, bild is not knwon for differenciated articles 04:19 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 261 points, T:922, killed by a small mimic 04:22 mobileuser, but "i tend to" specifically means "but not always"; "i used to" does not have this connotation. therefore i think "i used to drink beer" in the present tense should just be "i drink beer" 04:23 i wanted to express that it was a behavior i picked up in the past and still am doing today for no specific reason 04:24 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:25 for some reason I have been capitalising it, perhaps 04:25 idk im not good at english 04:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2574 04:26 i keep capitalizing it 04:26 yeah thats good 04:26 I am in the habit of capitalizing it. 04:27 I need to break the habit :b 04:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:30 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3938 04:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3986 04:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:4012 04:42 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1802 points, T:2382, killed by a snake 04:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 5154 points, T:4266, killed by a wounded Green-elf 05:02 -!- tromix has quit [Quit: fBNC - https://bnc4free.com] 05:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1508 points, T:2575, quit 05:18 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 05:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 922 points, T:973, killed by a gnome queen 05:19 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 05:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 664 points, T:1397, killed by an arrow 05:22 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 130 points, T:423, killed by a bolt of cold 05:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2288 points, T:1377, killed by a wounded giant bat 05:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) had a wormwood staff entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:29537 05:48 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:48 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 05:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2087 points, T:1223, killed by a soldier ant 06:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law), 50884 points, T:26542, killed by a heavily wounded Olog-hai 06:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4698 points, T:1657, killed by a mumak 06:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12326 06:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:13518 06:55 -!- misha has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:57 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:58 -!- misha has joined #hardfought 07:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3109 07:12 !coffee 07:12 * Beholder throws nabru a cup of espresso, fermented by Izchak at 8 degrees Celsius. 07:14 morning 07:15 mornin' 07:16 o/ 07:22 that's weird coffee 07:22 all coffe is weird 07:22 e 07:22 bean juice... how weird is that? (its weird) 07:22 hi raisse o/ 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3903 07:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:29 -!- NCommander_ has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5+deb4 - https://znc.in] 07:29 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 07:29 -!- NCommander has quit [Changing host] 07:29 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 07:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1514 points, T:2817, killed by a dwarf 07:33 * NCommander might be doing something insane 07:33 I might be trying to resurrect the Windows CE NetHack port 07:33 NCommander: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2020-12-17 07:56 EST: great news, man! *bundleflundle* my Let's Play SLEX continues at last! here: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/lets-play-slashem-extended-a-nethack-fork.723346/page-53#post-23644824 - enjoy <3 *hug* 07:33 God that was from three months ago >.>; 07:34 !tell LarienTelrunya I'll catch up eventually. Life has been ... bad, will be in touch. Maybe I'll make SLEX run on Windows CE 07:34 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, NCommander. 07:34 nooo why are you trying to resurrect code out of the outdated folder 07:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4290 07:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2612 points, T:4296, killed by a wounded ape 07:36 aosdict, because I got a HP Jornada 680e, which is a SH3 NetHack folder, and the devteam has wonderful salty tears that nourish me 07:36 *SH3 Windows CE device 07:37 aosdict, I could also resurrect the BeOS ports and ... *looks in the folder* 07:38 aosdict, the wince port doesn't look like its in outdated. I could dig up the GEM port though :) 07:38 (I've been doing retrotech youtube/content creation and that's kinda what motivated this) 07:40 aosdict, it looks like wince just got flat out deleted and didn't even make it into outdated :/ 07:42 * stenno1 winces 07:45 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:55 VMS and MS-DOS still run, how outdated to you want to go? 07:56 I still keep thinking NCommander is Norton Commander from ca. 1988 07:57 Pinkbeast: sup 07:58 bhaak, V7 UNIX? :) 07:59 I probably will in a few weeks see if I can revive the CE port and maybe even one of the otehrs if the devteam will take it 08:00 here u go devteam have more obligations 08:00 ur welcome 08:02 Pinkbeast: the new ipbt version worked for bouquet but I now get scrolls everywhere instead of ants, mimics and mumakil 08:03 trying to debug with simon over email lol 08:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1919 points, T:1313, killed by a wounded tiger 08:05 amateurhour: right? that's why I don't want outdated ports revived 08:05 but the devteam's policy might be, support for an outdated port lasts as long as the person willing to support it 08:06 that'd make sense yeah, like taking patches but not working on it or something 08:07 still there's some amount of uninteresting work involved with resurrecting a port, like updating all the file lists and documentation 08:08 on the other hand, I don't think that's the devteam's policy. I think they'd go "oh, I guess there is still wince demand, so we will keep officially supporting it" and it contributes to holding back code modernizations and stuff because of this now officially re-supported port 08:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:11 the vibe I got from the other devs is that as long as somebody is willing to support it and it isn't unnecessarily keeping back the other ports, it's okay 08:12 the jump to C99 was due to, on one hand, outdated ports being deprecated and on the other hand, the possibility to cross-compile the for still supported but otherwise legacy systems 08:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] tromix (Bar Cen Mal Cha), 2906 points, T:2527, burned by molten lava 08:15 now that nethack has a public repo, it feels like it should be reasonably easy for maintainers to keep outdated ports alive in their own branch/fork 08:15 without having that be part of the master branch 08:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] OOTCrobin (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Field Worker, on T:4779 08:31 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 08:34 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:34 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 1361 points, T:1081, killed by a gnome lady 08:36 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:45 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 08:48 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:53 -!- stenno4 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:58 !booze 08:58 * Beholder tosses nabru a fifth of grog, brewed by the /dev/null/oracle at 289 Kelvin. 08:58 !coffee 08:58 * Beholder hands amateurhour a potion of gain ability, replicated by the late Pinobot at -11 degrees Celsius. 08:58 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1400 points, T:1773, killed by an uninjured rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18479 09:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased wallet of perseus", on T:16316 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 391 points, T:1303, zombified by an orc zombie 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:42072 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 404 points, T:1072, killed by an uninjured giant bat 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class c), on T:81 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 194 points, T:392, killed by an uninjured gnome, while sleeping 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2716 points, T:2426, killed by an uninjured bugbear, while sleeping 09:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:17815 09:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:17816 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:43411 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43472 09:55 -!- Umby has joined #hardfought 10:01 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:05 [hdf-eu] [slshm] luisjo (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 649 points, T:2249, killed by a brown mold 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:26482 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:44293 10:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) killed Aglaope, on T:27287 10:16 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:16 -!- microla has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] owen (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 479 points, T:1538, killed by a gnome lord 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Cen Fem Neu), 33777 points, T:9608, killed by a bolt of cold 10:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:29 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 10:30 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Val Hum Fem Law), 891 points, T:1431, killed by a gnome 10:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:45826 10:32 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 10:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:19760 10:41 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:45980 10:48 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of Singhend, the former Initiate, on T:3396 10:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:20053 10:50 jonadab did you ever figure out the issue with arnibald's fourk game? 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 darts on an altar, on T:4453 10:52 [hdf-us] [un] owen (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 704 points, T:1759, killed by a wand 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible nabru's ghost, the former Novice, on T:4618 11:00 K2: Sort of, but not to a useful extent. I haven't given up on it yet, though. 11:00 It's a very _interesting_ bug he has found. 11:01 ok 11:01 I am still looking into the possibility of attempting to compile Fourk with address sanitization. 11:02 Another possibility is running it under valgrind. 11:02 I _have_ the saved game, so if I can get either of those things working... 11:03 It's tricky though because it's one of those bugs where the symptom shows up _later_ (during save/load), not when the actual problem is triggered. 11:03 valgrind is slow as molasses, asan for the win 11:04 Valgrind is slow, yes. But NetHack (even NH4) is lightweight enough that this isn't a deal-breaker. 11:04 It's not like trying to run Google Chrome under valgrind, or something. 11:05 [hdf-us] [seed] owen (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 236 points, T:354, killed by a wounded dwarf 11:05 tried fuzzing with valgrind once, it wasn't fun 11:05 where did you get up to with looking at using asan? 11:07 I think I need to move a copy of my Fourk dev stuff (repo, build scripts, etc.) onto a different computer. 11:07 Ideally, one I don't mind taking offline for a while, and with a spare blank hard drive that I can install Ceres on. 11:08 I may be able to use this USB hard drive dock for that. 11:09 Most obvious computer to use is probably rhino (the one that mostly runs a GUI, hardly any services). 11:10 But right now it's 11:15 on a Wednesday, so realistically nothing further is going to happen until Thursday night. My schedule is pretty loose for most of the week, but I don't have a lot of time from Wednesday noon through Thursday afternoon. 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 80 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:47039 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:47389 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (poisoned by Juiblex), on T:47408 11:17 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:32126 11:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 460 points, T:403, killed by an uninjured black unicorn 11:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 283 points, T:412, killed by a wounded paper golem 11:25 Wew I just found one of my old ass Tourist bones 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:5142 11:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 530 points, T:524, killed by a wounded gecko 11:27 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 279 points, T:551, killed by an uninjured giant rat 11:29 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed guest99987's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:5431 11:35 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:35 cool whats in there 11:36 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 11:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:34108 11:39 I am not going to ask what an old "ass-Tourist" is 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2379 11:41 lmao 11:41 Do I look like Amy to you Pinky 11:41 <{Demo}2> i've heard of butt pirate but that's a new one 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 602 points, T:931, killed by a wounded gnome lady 11:41 aoei: it was an early death with a dug up Oracle level 11:41 mostly just took the leftover scrolls, rings and camera 11:41 also the darts and shirt 11:41 Pinkbeast: did you see my earlier ping re: army of scrolls 11:41 hauling it up to DL2 to drop on the altar 11:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:42 just drop ur inventory before u die 4Head 11:43 aoei: No (I don't in general see mentions of my IRC nick). Seen it now. Got an offending ttyrec? 11:43 I do yea 11:43 but im beginning to suspect something is dodgy on my system 11:43 (Also, what's "bouquet"?) 11:43 bouquet is an IRC nick of someone here 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:19707 11:43 <{Demo}2> what's "Pinkbeast" 11:43 one thing we didn't try was swapping ttyrecs 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2858 11:43 If the terminal you're replaying the ttyrec on can't display the line-drawing characters itself, it's never going to work, which I guess might be going on 11:44 to see whether or not the individual ttyrecs are different/the cause 11:44 nah curses works fine on my term 11:44 and Simon sent me a couple of test commands to try both utf8 and code-page linedrawing 11:44 both worked 11:44 Not to be Capt Obvious but invoking it with -u -U ? 11:44 hm, i don't think i used -U 11:44 just -u 11:45 -u and --utf8-linedraw 11:45 lemme try this big U 11:45 nah, problem persists 11:45 Pinkbeast: weird thing is simon told me to check what ipbt is actually outputting to my terminal 11:46 and it appears to be literal ? characters, normal ascii 11:46 Ooh, the darts are still uncursed 11:46 Well, send me a link to a problem ttyrec. (IDK about swapping; I don't think NetHack respects the 11:46 whoops 11:46 def. making use of those, 99% sure they were that tourist's starting darts 11:46 Also abandoning that sentence because I'm not sure the other half of it is even true 11:47 Pinkbeast: you can find it here: https://github.com/aoeixsz4/titm-rs/tree/ipbt-debugging 11:47 boooo their shirt was cursed 11:47 ah well 11:47 Right, I'll take a look when I'm bored at work 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3193 11:48 Pinkbeast: btw that terminal wrapper handles curses output from nethack itself as I would expect, the linedrawings appear in my terminal correctly, and the vt escape sequences you'd expect are saved to the dump 11:48 https://github.com/aoeixsz4/titm-rs/blob/ipbt-debugging/src/main.rs#L44 if you mess around with this you can run other things through the wrapper 11:49 eh line 48 is wrong 11:49 but cosmetic 11:49 ignore 11:50 (titm-rs actually doesn't quite function how i'd like, currently. it seems to crash after a few rounds of I/O between the user and gthe program it's wrapping, need to fix that) 11:50 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided fire giants dungeon wide on T:9536 11:50 but it's useful for terminal debugging like this 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 68177 points, T:20010, suffocated by a gelatinous cube 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3580 11:52 ass tourism is best tourism 11:52 or so they say 11:52 https://github.com/aoeixsz4/titm-rs/tree/ipbt-debugging <-- i also added a README Pinkbeast 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3706 11:52 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:52 I'll READYOU 11:53 😦 11:53 oh you meant you'll read the readme, good, good 11:53 aoei is the best read of 2021 11:53 ;o 11:53 im honoured 11:54 but im not sure i'm all that well-read 11:54 i started a book this year at least 11:54 kek 11:54 I know 11:54 it's a travesty 11:54 you should be a best-seller 11:54 lol 11:54 to be well-read means you read a lot of books 11:54 I know 11:54 :B 11:55 dammit, i switched sense of the wording and you switched it right back 11:55 <{Demo}2> but for a book to be well read, it means it has been read a lot 11:55 foiled again 11:55 <{Demo}2> and ur a book 11:55 yes i am a book 11:55 it is true 11:55 time for someone to write a book about nethack? 11:55 lmao nabru 11:56 nabru: I sent http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/oraproposal.txt in 2012 but alas they declined. :-) 11:56 :D 11:56 a modest ora proposal 11:56 There _is_ https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Forum:NetHack_Book which doubtless is a work of genius 11:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide boots of speed", on T:35362 11:56 Oh yeah I legitimately forgot 11:56 Isn't there a fanfic or two out there already? 11:57 * Umby should add that to the ATT page 11:57 Some of our own modest AO3 output relates to NetHack, yes 11:57 there are nethakc fanficcs on ao3 11:57 IIRC AntiGulp wrote some fanfic 11:57 nice typing, self 11:57 also, https://archiveofourown.org/works/5458259 11:57 nabru: I just remember her saying she would as a joke in response to a link to ours, but ofc she might have done it anyway 11:57 hahaha amazing Pinkbeast 11:58 what's ORA tho 11:58 nabru: Oh, yes, Clare wrote that, I helped a bit 11:58 when I hear ora I think of gurren lagann despite not watching it 11:58 O'Reilly and Associates 11:58 when i hear ora i think of jojo 11:58 Pinkbeast: Clare wrote that :O 11:59 you know the person who wrote the Oracle diaries :O 11:59 i love that fanfic lol 11:59 it's fantastic 11:59 Pinkbeast: ah i did wonder if it was an O'Reilly thing 11:59 They wrote back saying "haha, we've stuck this up on the pinboard" which is what I hoped for 11:59 I'll trope that once I finally finish this Mirror Mook page 11:59 Pinkbeast: lol awesome 12:00 aoei: Clare is one of the other 2/3 of our Crawl variant and, ah, an old friend of mine :-) 12:00 Pinkbeast: i know she's your friend 12:00 you've talked about her numerous times 12:00 i didn't know she was the one who authored that fanfic tho 12:00 Oh, right, it was Clare->molybdomantic that was missing 12:01 yeah exactly 12:01 i posted a comment on there when i first read it thanking her for making me giggle 12:01 and she did see it 12:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Minetown, on T:3095 12:04 [hdf-us] [un] smzp (Val Hum Fem Law), 32951 points, T:10828, killed by Lord Surtur 12:04 I think C like me reads all her AO3 comments and replies 12:05 <@luxidream> what is antigulps fanfic? 12:07 <@luxidream> I think I’ve read the Oracle one 🙂 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:5503 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:12169 12:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3206 12:09 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:09 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 12:09 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:09 antigulp made a fanfic? 12:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a sling on an altar, on T:3213 12:10 I read the Oracle one as well I think 12:10 Hi FIQ 12:10 I seem to recall she did, but I might be wrong 12:11 didn't even know AntiGulp was a she. Oh well, the more you know 12:11 I know that AG *writes* 12:11 hi Umby 12:11 idk what kind of fanfics she has written tho 12:12 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5769 12:12 I read HP fanfics from time to time, having liked the series since I was a kid. I did see the nethack oraclce fanfic a while bacak 12:12 *back 12:12 Pinkbeast: what kinda stuff have you got on AO3 12:12 it was kinda cool 12:12 * aoei is now curious 12:13 aoei: I am "denisbloodnok", and not very much. (The dinosaurs/asteroids one with Clare is our best) 12:14 looking up that name made me stumble upon https://archiveofourown.org/works/3154466 12:15 a crossover of 2 things I have never heard of 12:15 ooh you have dcss fics 12:16 Pinkbeast: fun fact: I compiled all the god names in dcss a while back and concluded that dcss has almost exactly 1 god starting with each letter 12:16 there's one or two with 2, and one or two with 0 12:16 the rest are 1 12:16 I wonder if that was deliberate 12:16 Leckie's _Ancillary Justice_ won all the awards and if you like SF at all I recommend it; Hornblower is CS Forester's Age of Sail naval captain who kicked off a tranche of other authors writing Age of Sail naval captains. 12:16 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 12:17 FIQ: It is deliberate. The one overlap is handwaved away by saying The Shining One begins with '1' 12:17 hah 12:17 how does TSO equate to 1? :P 12:17 Hornblower is mentioned in the original concept for Star Trek as a model for the captain right? 12:17 oh, "One" I guess 12:17 the shining "one" 12:17 yeah 12:17 lol 12:17 I'm slow 12:17 that's ok 12:17 qt: I think so, although Kirk is not remotely The Man Alone 12:17 so am I 12:18 Pinkbeast: as for your message beginning "Leckie's", I have no idea what 90% of the words are 12:18 aoei: Pinkbeast is referring to 2 series/books/whatever that they made a fanfic for 12:18 (I also recommend Hornblower; if you try it, read chronologically from The Happy Return, then start at the chronological beginning with Mr Midshipman Hornblower) 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 6 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:48898 12:19 does it make sense if don't know waht Age of Sail is tho 12:19 Hornblower is probably the second-most-famous age-of-sail hero after Nelson. 12:19 It may not be a coincidence that they both have the given name "Horatio". 12:19 aoei: The period before steamships and after galleys. 12:19 just what it sounds like, the age when people went sailing around all the time 12:19 you mean like the age of discovery? 12:19 Pinkbeast: oh lmao now i really feel slow 12:20 I don't think I've ever heard the era referred to as "age of sail" if that's the case 12:20 I think it's after the age of discovery, more like the 1700s 12:20 It's normally called the "age of sail" when talking about A) life onboard ship, B) naval history, or C) the merchant marine. 12:20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Sail; it overlaps, which you refer to depends on context oh what jonadab said 12:20 I guess maybe there is overlap though 12:20 When talking about the implications for land rats, then it becomes "Age of Exploration". 12:21 yeah that term is def more familiar to me 12:21 But beginning at 1571 after Lepanto is pretty rigid 12:21 i am bad at history 12:21 and also going for a walk 12:21 cya 12:21 have a nice walk aoei 12:21 ty 12:21 cya 12:22 I'm not sure _I_ would extend the Age of Sail to 1862 as the wp article does 12:22 That's a little late, yeah. 12:23 I mean, yes, there are still sailing ships running around even today, but the "Age of Sail" is usually considered to have ended once there were substantial numbers of steamships running around. 12:23 1850, maybe 12:23 the age of sail is actually the minimum age requirement for entering sailing competitions 12:24 similar construction to "the age of majority" 12:24 Although, if you're talking about life onboard a commercial sailing ship at sea, I can see applying the term even if the ship in question was a bit out of date. 12:24 Which is the minimum age for entering majority competitions? 12:24 Hmm, I guess a majority competition would be an election. 12:24 So is that the voting age, or the age you have to be to run for office? 12:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) was given the Cloak of the Unheld One, on T:36428 12:28 the age you have to be to run for office depends on the office 12:28 not a good measuring stick 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2389 12:34 and died to a dwarf doing literally 1/3 of my HP in dagger damage 12:34 good meme. 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:50693 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50696 12:35 literally one stab and "lol u ded" 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Ran Cen Mal Neu), 548 points, T:942, killed by a water moccasin 12:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) became the Sword of Vhaeraun, on T:36483 12:42 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:45 So chanop accounts are getting compromised, may wanna change passwords just in case 12:45 ops specifically* 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:9769 12:46 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:48 huh 12:48 i wonder how they're pulling that off 12:49 my gut says something really dumb like phishing 12:49 So far it's only happened to Jimbo's IRC account 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3209 12:49 how exactly you'd phish people for nickserv passes idk but 12:49 you could do it to some folx 12:49 And I think one other Wikipedia-en op but idk 12:49 interesting 12:50 imaging pming someone while using the nick N1ckserv rofl 12:50 "lol ur unidentified pls send me ur pass" 12:50 "thx lol" 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:10226 12:51 anyway use sasl 12:51 But of course 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:10507 12:55 aosdict: Well, sure, but maybe the age of majority for Presidents is higher than the age of majority for Mayors. 12:56 lets see what goes on on #freenode 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:3793 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3957 13:04 seems to be on lockdown 13:05 Yeah, spam outbreak yesterday 13:05 +m 13:05 i got some bizarre spam yesterday with my other client where i am not +R 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4643 points, T:4404, killed by the wounded hallucinogen-distorted Oracle 13:06 i wonder why 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided class h, on T:52360 13:07 it has been quite some time since the last wave 13:07 * Umby shrugs 13:08 Defender stonewalled someone trying to Trojan me with PM shit lol 13:08 er wut 13:09 does you client allow some sort of remote code execution? 13:09 Iunno honestly 13:09 I think it's a logging-specific exploit 13:13 sounds strange 13:16 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed 0xdeadfed's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:13197 13:23 Yeah, the spam comes and goes on Freenode. 13:25 Also changes forms. SOmetimes it's channel joiners. Sometimes channel non-joiners. Sometimes directed straight to users, as the current batch seems to be. 13:25 Although I've seen a couple of minor bits in channels. 13:25 Bah, they don't love _me_ enough to send me any 13:27 I don't receive much spam, eitehr 13:27 *either 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Dresser, on T:21653 13:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] tromix (Bar Cen Mal Cha), 2012 points, T:1242, killed by a white unicorn 13:29 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 13:30 !lastgame 0xdeadfed 13:30 Deathsushi: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/0/0xdeadfed/nethack/dumplog/1614147894.nh.html 13:34 Hi 13:34 Hello Umby, Welcome to #hardfought 13:35 jonadab: It was mostly just channel spam with the occasional bleed into PMs 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:13706 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:13927 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Magician, on T:19054 13:41 Umby: Oh? Huh. I've had a lot more spam in PMs in the last couple of days than I've seen in channels. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention to enough channels. 13:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 35 points, T:273, killed by a bolt of lightning 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:21321 13:52 [hdf-us] [slex] quark (Top Azt Fem Law), 206 points, T:834, killed by a monster (human adventurer) 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:18921 14:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:19408 14:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Cen Fem Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:30572 14:06 Badass 14:07 Really showing off, would be killing Demogorgon 255 times. 14:07 heh 14:07 True 14:07 And then doing a streak of 255 games where you do that 14:07 In GruntHack. 14:07 not easy to stone him in evilhack 14:07 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:07 in evilhack, he will cast stone to flesh on himself 14:08 In a sub-10k-turns game. 14:08 lol! 14:11 'lo amy 14:12 yo Umby 14:12 LarienTelrunya: Message from NCommander at 2021-02-24 07:34 EST: I'll catch up eventually. Life has been ... bad, will be in touch. Maybe I'll make SLEX run on Windows CE 14:12 !tell Amy how does blessed genocide resistance work? 14:12 No worries, amateurhour, I've got this! 14:12 :^) 14:12 taken from slethe I guess, but idk how it works really 14:12 heh I'm here amateurhour :P based on monster-level-versus-your-level difference and monster MR, the chance for it to resist is higher 14:13 it's similar to the slethe/biodiversity nerf but slightly different 14:13 does it affect uncursed geno? 14:13 nah 14:13 res = 35 - u.ulevel + mons[i].mr; 14:13 if (res >= 90) res = 90; 14:13 if (res <= 15) res = 15; 14:13 okay fair enough, if I get any genos in slex I'll try unbless 14:13 if a d100 is lower than "res", then the monster resists 14:14 also why? blessed geno is still better than uncursed, because it gives an uncursed geno *and* a blessed geno 14:14 because presuming slashthem didn't change the slex version of it, I did 4 blessed genos and the top two liches just wouldn't go 14:14 heh I dunno, soviet may or may not have changed it to the biodiversity version 14:15 ah I see that makes sense 14:15 okay I'll try bless them then 14:15 thanks for explaining 14:15 also, the "blessed is better than uncursed" part is for slex, I have no idea what it's like for slashthem 14:15 Evil Patch Idea: cursed genocide kills the player; uncursed is revgeno; blessed is normal genocide of one monster type. 14:15 but judging from what you've said, slashthem gives you only the blessed effect if you read a blessed scroll 14:16 (i.e., one permonst). 14:16 yeah 14:16 lol evil 14:16 jonadab: in unnethack it's already so that you have to bless them to actually genocide a single monster species, uncursed just kills all instances on the current level but doesn't prevent the bastard vorpal jabberwock from spawning again 14:17 like the scroll of mass murder then 14:17 yeah 14:18 Evil Patch Idea: When an object whose beatitude was known changes beatitude, your notion of its beatitude doesn't update to match until you somehow buc-check or identify it again. So you're carrying a thing in inventory that says it's blessed, but if you've had your inventory cursed since you found that out, it might no longer be true. 14:19 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 14:21 heh, here I expected that you'd just no longer know its beatitude, but I guess that was a different EPI 14:22 As in it'd still display as blessed but would update its BUC is placed on an altar again 14:22 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:22 Right? 14:23 -!- oh7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (giant cockroaches), on T:3546 14:24 Evil Patch idea: dropping an item on a Moloch altar has a chance of displaying a different BUC than what the item really has, until you use an identify scroll on it, then it displays its actual BUC again. 14:25 wew 14:25 Umby: if we want to be really evil, you'd have to use identify scrolls to make the BUC of all those items display properly again ;) 14:29 gaspu 14:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:30 If we wanted to be really evil, we'd take away formal BUC ID altogether, and make you keep track of the flash colors yourself. Dropping each item on the altar individually, checking the color, using #name, ... 14:31 Ultra Evil Patch Idea: what #name command? there is no #name command! :P 14:31 better use some pen and paper to keep track of it externally! 14:32 dropping an item on moloch's altar curses it 14:32 bhaak: is actually a 1% chance in slex if the item's BUC wasn't previously known 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:18737 14:32 Items of unlike beatitude stack together; up to you to keep track of what's top of the stack 14:33 LarienTelrunya: SLEX seems to be more complicated than real life 14:34 heh thanks, I intended to make the game pretty complex so I view that as a compliment :) 14:35 are we brainstorming ways to make slex worse? 14:35 I wonder if we can convince someone to try ascend in evilvariant mode 14:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4449 14:37 if anyone were capable of doing that, it'd be Tariru 14:37 https://youtu.be/QX07gsMBQe0 14:38 one of the biggest problems in evilvariant mode is the elder priests, which will make it extremely dangerous to get past the valley of the dead as well as fighting the monster that holds the amulet on the sanctum 14:38 new slex food monster? 14:39 This tastes just like chick^H^H^H^H^H^H turkey and pig! 14:39 I'm honestly puzzled that food monsters only seem to be a SLASH series thing 14:39 why? 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:35080 14:40 Umby: all other variants are too scared of putting silly stuff into the game :P god I'm so grateful that for slex almost nothing is too silly, so I can actually get to experience all that wacky shit in-game 14:41 if slex didn't exist, all that fun stuff would remain theoretical YANIs/YASIs/EPIs forever, without ever being actually implemented in any variant! 14:41 what a nightmare that would be 14:41 Amy how did you nerf doppelganger? 14:42 guessing a general polyself nerf somehow 14:42 amateurhour: # of youpoly uses is limited, and of course poly control doesn't work 100%, but on the bright side I removed that ultra annoying maxHP reduction whenever you return to human form (what were the slashem devs thinking???) 14:42 how limited are we talking 14:42 and yeah polyselfing was overhauled in general, disint breath costs 100 mana, digestion attack has 1% or so chance of instakilling monsters, monsters with base levels over 29 aren't valid polyforms for the player, and some further restrictions 14:42 in slashem your max hp goes down whenever you change back to human form? so if you changed form and back a bunch of times in a row it would be reduced to 0? 14:43 or is it more limited than that? 14:43 on the bright side, can still try to perform actions that require limbs you don't have in your polyform (chance of failure and bad effects), waaaaay better HP when polymorphed, and slex has a polymorphing skill that boosts damage and stuff 14:43 might try out a doppelganger monk depending on how limited youpoly is 14:43 qt: "killed by reverting to unhealthy doppelganger form" is a common death cause in slashem, so I guess it can kill you directly if you poly too much 14:43 if you get to use it like 5x ever then idk if i can be bothered 14:44 amateurhour: you start with 10 free youpoly uses, and will slowly gain more over time 14:44 honestly I've never run out when I played doppelganger 14:44 time as in turns, or is there something else to unlock them? 14:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1488 points, T:5319, killed by a piranha 14:45 time 14:45 well it sounds like it could be pretty fun then, I'll give it a go 14:45 one of my favorite polyforms is Almuth's block-heeled boot ♥ 14:45 oh yeah I have no idea what good polyforms exist 14:45 they can also lay eggs :D 14:46 deciding on a good form is quite the task, considering how many monsters exist 14:46 anything stand out to you as epic? 14:47 you mean apart from the one I just gave? :P 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Novice, on T:5919 14:48 yeah 14:49 stuff like grandmaster mind flayer or owner mind flayer or generally the higher-level mind flayer variants can also be pretty strong 14:50 be aware though: in slex, trying to poly into something that's several levels higher than your character is less likely to work 14:50 why is the greasy hands property called Glib? 14:50 > In fact, the word comes from old German and Dutch words for "slippery," 14:50 is that still true in modern German or Dutch? or was someone on the devteam inspired by that archaic use of the word? 14:51 like base level you mean? 14:51 are fire vampires nerfed? 14:53 apparently another archaic meaning of "glib" is "to castrate", much as your character is castrated by not being able to wield their long sword 14:53 I'm sure that was the inspiration, very Freudian 14:54 amateurhour: yes, and yes - in order to use martial arts, you need weapon attacks now, claw attacks won't do (that was silly anyway) 14:55 "Glibber" and "glibberig" are still words that are in use 14:55 but I would have bet that "Glibber" comes from English 14:55 to the etymology duden! 14:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 252 points, T:700, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 14:56 villithid might be a pretty good form, vampire that has weapon, int-draining and level-draining melee and can fly 14:56 is there anything I can poly into that uses marts? 14:56 yeah as I said, if it has a weapon attack it'll use martial arts 14:56 villithid is such a form 14:56 oh I misread out of sheer tiredness sorry 14:57 Almuth's block-heeled boot is too :D and so is Kristin's block-heeled combat boot, for that matter (the latter is a lower level, so better suited for low-level chars) 14:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 60 points, T:295, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:58 from north german "slippery" 14:58 and yeah I like polying into shoe monsters, because not only can they be pretty strong but they can also lay eggs so you'll be able to get a tame version of the shoe in question that persists even after your polymorph ends 14:58 I sort of wish pinobot was alive 14:59 * amateurhour slides 1 zorkmid at K2 14:59 bhaak: interesting, thanks for checking 15:00 It has been my impression that the modern meaning of "glib" comes from the phrase "glib-tongued", which became abbreviated to just "glib" after most other uses of "glib" largely passed out of common usage. 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:20726 15:01 However, I don't have enough historical citations to be sure of that interpretation. 15:01 It's partly speculative. 15:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:02 "glib" and "slippery" have similar connotations when describing a person, so it does make sense that glib has also meant slippery in the physical sense 15:02 I have just never heard it used that way that I can remember 15:03 oh wait. forgot something 15:03 YANI dropping an item on moloch's altar curses it 15:03 nice idea 15:03 qt: Yeah, it's really not any more. At least not often. 15:04 dang, I'm feeling exhausted and should go to bed 15:05 not sure if I could sleep now, my colleague with whom I had the first part of today's tour decided to spend 1,70 euros to introduce me to a strong and dangerous drug: caffeine :P he invited me for an espresso 15:06 for someone who's not used to drinking coffee, that stuff actually acts as a pretty strong drug, I'm still feeling the aftereffects even now 15:06 yeah, caffeine can be quite hard for me too 15:06 If I drink coffee after, say, 3 PM, I can't sleep 15:06 my body feels super tired and my eyes are constantly shutting themselves, yet my mind is awake as if it wants to stay up for ten more hours or so 15:07 that's me right now too 15:07 except for the mind awake part 15:07 did you take the drug too? 15:07 I have a lot of coffee every day 15:07 how much is a lot amateurhour 15:07 about 10 cups 15:08 wow that is a lot, do you get headaches and stuff if you don't drink it? 15:08 idk I've not really stopped 15:08 amateurhour i do too 15:10 is there a nethack variant with addiction systems, like becoming dependant on certain potions that you use a lot? 15:10 dependent* 15:10 "You suddenly start craving a potion of full healing!" 15:10 that sounds like a pretty annoying idea 15:10 lol 15:10 maybe for SLEX 15:11 in elona there's a disease called "potion addiction", which makes you quaff random potions for your inventory; whenever I get that, I stash all the damn potions until I can cure it 15:11 otherwise, it can lead to stuff like "You suddenly quaff a potion of sulfuric. You melt down. Do you want your possessions identified?" 15:14 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 2769 points, T:1129, killed by a monster (toemodel), while knocked out by an asian peep-toe 15:14 asian peep toes again 15:14 they're soooooooo soft and lovely ♥ 15:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1312 points, T:2088, killed by a ball of cold 15:18 <{Demo}2> it was 70 degrees today for the first time since summer so i walked around in the sun for a while today 15:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1166 15:25 {Demo}2 nice 15:25 did you melt? 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed 0xdeadfed's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:47267 15:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Premium Heart", on T:1444 15:26 {Demo}2: Wait, is that 70 Fahrenheit, or Celsius? 15:26 <{Demo}2> america 15:26 hah its 70 C at demo's house 15:26 kelvin, and {Demo}2 is now an ice block :P 15:26 Heh. 15:26 I mean, 70 C would be quite warm. 15:26 warm would be an understatement 15:27 <{Demo}2> thats not a weather on this planet 15:27 we reached 36 C here, but it felt like 60 C a while ago 15:28 the hottest day i ever experienced in iraq was 141° F (confirmed) 15:28 that's.... 60.5 C 15:28 whoa 15:28 <{Demo}2> damn wtf 15:28 {Demo}2: Well, I don't know if weather _by itself_ can get up to 70 C, but there are definitely places in the world where ambient temperature gets higher than that. 15:28 130° F was a regular thing 15:28 its amazing what you can get used to 15:29 brb 15:29 K2: The trick to handling those temps is A) the humidity had better not be too high, and B) you had better not run out of water to drink. 15:29 Also, C) you get used to feeling like you want to die. 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:25036 15:30 <@luxidream> K2: that would be a world record high? 15:31 well a world record is only what they recorsd at the time for the purpose of that record 15:32 <@luxidream> if that really were verified it would be historic is what I am saying 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 743 points, T:1813, killed by a wounded gnome lady 15:32 it was verified in the sense that the temp was taken at the official weather station on base, not someones wall thermometer 15:32 but no it didnt set any official record 15:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3914 15:33 brb 15:34 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 15:35 Hmm, apparently official temperature records have to be recorded a specific distance above the ground, and shielded from direct sunlight. 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:25269 15:35 was it a digital thermometer? if so maybe it actually said ".IhI" and you were holding it upside down 15:36 that's a common mistake, happens to me all the time. I have to stop buying ihi brand digital thermometers 15:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4525 points, T:2174, killed by a crow 15:39 wow there's a claim 1972 temp of 201°F 15:39 I guess not "official"/verified though 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2790 points, T:3017, killed by a hobbit mummy 15:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40039 15:42 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Mal Law), 1968 points, T:707, killed by an arrow 15:42 and measured on the ground 15:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1528 points, T:779, killed by a small mimic 15:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Marcus, her faithful homunculus, on T:391 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:49727 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una) murdered his faithful homunculus, on T:521 15:45 On-the-ground temps are typically higher than in-the-air. 15:46 Even in-the-air temps can get that high, though, naturally, when there's e.g. flowing lava underneath. 15:46 Convection~ 15:46 I guess that doesn't count as "weather". 15:46 But it's natural. 15:47 Umby: Yes. 15:47 K2: wow that's crazy 15:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:5012 15:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:23727 15:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 184 points, T:702, killed by a boulder 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 894 points, T:1449, killed by a rock piercer, while dragging an iron ball 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:22710 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22711 15:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2083 15:55 its why i like vermont. nice and chilly 15:55 between growing up in oklahoma/texas and being in places like iraq, i've had my fill of hot 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2189 15:56 Yeah, I prefer winter myself. 15:56 I keep threatening to someday move to Fairbanks. 15:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 328 points, T:1068, killed by a gas cloud 15:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] AlleyOop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5733 15:57 Main reason I haven't actually gone there yet, is money. 15:57 Do items in bones files lose their enchantment? 15:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:2295 15:57 Deathsushi: Sometimes. 15:57 they do? I thought they just got cursed 15:57 Deathsushi: Err, wait, enchantment, no. 15:57 Right 15:57 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 15:57 They lose their BUC, sometimes, right. 15:57 So it'll be cursed, 80% of the time, but same enchantment 15:57 Cool 15:58 Same enchantment as when the other player died. 15:58 Yeah. 15:58 "Oh6! You have wandered from the path of the chaotic! If you attempt to overcome Thoth Amon in this state, he will surely enslave your soul. Your only hope, and ours, lies in your purification. Go forth, and return when you feel ready." 15:58 whee 15:58 <{Demo}2> i hate the winter 15:58 never managed to get to the quest leader before with bad alignment 15:58 I've done it numerous times in Fourk. 15:58 Not so much in vanilla. 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:20028 16:00 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Und Red Mal Law), 2559 points, T:2362, dissolved in molten lava 16:01 -!- Umby has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 I killed all of the minetown shopkeepers, and the watch, and the priest, and at that I had to avoid engaging the ogres on the quest home level 16:01 finished them off and I'm already piously aligned 16:02 -!- Umby has joined #hardfought 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Oreo, her faithful kitten, on T:2683 16:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 553 points, T:1731, killed by a dart 16:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 78 points, T:378, killed by trying to drink molten lava 16:06 I dispute that the actual record high world temperature is 7 degrees F higher than the current accepted maximum 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3257 16:07 are the median temps also required to be taken in the air? 16:07 or, you know, the temp readings used to calculate the median 16:07 if an "official weather station" recorded 141 F then I would be reading about it on wikipedia, meteorology nerds would be all over that 16:07 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:08 -!- Umby has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08 <@luxidream> 141 heat index is pretty believable 16:08 but it was probably on the ground, right 16:09 wikipedia says the temps recorded on the ground can be 30-50°C higher than the "official" air temps used for the world record 16:10 offical as in the legit weather station on base aosdict 16:11 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:11 it wasnt someone reading a temp off their 5 dollar wall gauge 16:11 but hey dont take my word for it. go visit iraq in the summertime, experience it for yourself 16:12 <@luxidream> no sounding data in iraq 16:12 someone should get a giant sheet of vantablack and put it in iraq/death valley/wherever to engineer a new world record 16:13 ever wonder why all the pics you see of soldiers over there are always wearing gloves? weapons are too hot to touch bare-handed 16:13 also they are worried about cockatrices 16:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1002 points, T:1123, killed by a wand 16:13 well thats a given 16:13 lets talk about camel spiders 16:14 fuck those things 16:14 <@luxidream> stoning grenades are safe 🙂 16:15 they can run 10mph K2?? 16:15 they're fast but i dont think that fast 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4310 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1116 points, T:1676, killed by a giant spider 16:17 that's what reputable site "spidersworlds.com" says lol 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3393 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] OOTCrobin (Arc Hum Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a gnome corpse, on T:5170 16:17 "However, they typically move much slower than that unless they feel that they are in danger and have to get out of harms way in a hurry." 16:18 but spidersworlds.com also says they might steal your hair while you sleep, so I don't know how trustworthy their reporting is 16:19 we saw some big ones, but no tlike the pics you see online (some of those are fake) 16:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:41295 16:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 681 points, T:1024, killed by a glass shuriken 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:21330 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24446 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4550 16:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 205 points, T:425, killed by a sewer rat 16:24 lol this is on a site called lovely-wallpapers4u http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BrwbnEXgcbI/TeEKdwt3kxI/AAAAAAAAAtk/uMW1DYujWtw/s400/Giant+Camel+Spider.jpg 16:24 does not seem like a lovely wallpaper to me 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:28473 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28476 16:25 such a fleecy spider ♥! 16:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:41485 16:26 looks fairly monochrome to me, maybe idk what fleecy means after all 16:26 thats one of the fakes 16:26 that doesn't look like a camel at all 16:26 they're big but its out of proportion 16:26 amateurhour: fleecy doesn't have to mean multicolored ;) 16:27 Yeah, those spiders are in the foreground. 16:27 is it really fake? I thought the hand in the foreground was holding it up, looks not that big 16:27 Yeah, not fake as such. 16:27 well, big, but not larger than the hand 16:27 But the spider is closer to the camera than you initially realize. 16:28 yup 16:28 regardless I would still not like to use it as a wallpaper 16:28 nor would I describe it as lovely as such 16:28 Not actually a spider as large as a soldier's thigh. 16:28 you can find camel spiders in the mojave desert also, but they are much smaller 16:28 do they ride camels 16:28 about US quarter sized 16:28 amateurhour: they smoke camels 16:29 finally, a legit reason for their name 16:29 the story goes like this: a camel spider would leap up from the ground to the underside of a camel's belly and burrow in 16:29 no idea if that's true 16:29 would you rather fight a camel sized spider or a spider sized camel? 16:29 spiders are very lovely ♥♥♥ 16:30 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 749 points, T:1128, killed by a giant mimic 16:31 <@luxidream> you mean 100 spider sized camels 16:31 <@luxidream> ? 16:33 depends, are they small spider sized camels or camel spider sized camels 16:33 you reckon you could take on 100 of them? 16:34 * K2 starts drafting 'giant camel spider' for evilhack 16:34 maybe they'd be ferocious but the camel sized spider would be a sweetheart 16:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] arnibald (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 412872 points, T:24107, killed by a troll, while fainted from lack of food 16:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1152 points, T:1351, quit 16:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:43 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 44 points, T:144, killed by a sewer rat 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30414 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:6454 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2899 16:52 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 133 points, T:398, killed by a sewer rat 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3018 16:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1099 points, T:2028, poisoned by an orcish arrow 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3155 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:66145 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3326 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1024 points, T:1613, killed by an enormous rat 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3601 17:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 270 points, T:1197, zombified by a kobold zombie 17:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 3 points, T:86, killed by a boulder 17:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 21 points, T:29, killed by a newt 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5193 17:09 !8ball do i want to play nethack 17:09 aoei: As I see it, yes 17:09 :o 17:09 how does it know?? 17:10 it always knows 17:10 * Umbire woooooooooooooooooooos 17:10 👻 17:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 400 points, T:1060, killed by a giant spider 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:25639 17:12 <@luxidream> !8ball do I want to play nethack 17:12 @luxidream: My sources say no 17:12 <@luxidream> !8ball do I want to play nethack 17:12 @luxidream: Better not tell you now 17:13 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/814258703686434816/2wd65n.png 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:27380 17:18 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 26293 points, T:21698, killed by an air elemental 17:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:67393 17:19 <@luxidream> !who 17:19 @luxidream: [hdf-us] Deathsushi [nh370] Bartlem [nh370] Merlek [nh370] Leggman [nh370] samiam [nh370] oh6 [nh370] Cropper [nh370] beastly [slex] dbanethacker [evil] Bourne [dyn] | [hdf-eu] No current players 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7429 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 444 points, T:451, killed by a shuriken 17:23 [hdf-us] [slex] beastly (Mys Hrb Mal Law), 2612 points, T:1869, killed by a monster (large rat) 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:7739 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:67959 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:67963 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:67964 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1263 points, T:963, killed by a wand 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1452 points, T:2565, zombified by an elf zombie 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 96715 points, T:68188, petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:32667 17:32 oh here i was, thinking "this is smooth sailing to the castle". 17:33 bit of a rocky ride it turns out. 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful Woodland-elf, on T:27159 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 24890 points, T:27172, killed by the wrath of Anhur 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 513 points, T:757, killed by an uninjured gnome 17:35 Whoa... crikey 17:40 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 17:40 what happened there Deathsushi? 17:41 1. Go to cross-aligned altar to convert and then do a water prayer (just finished soko, had a massive stash) 17:41 2. Zap wand of create monster, it fills the room 17:41 3. Cast Charm Monster to get some friendlies around me, start killing things 17:41 4. One of the monsters zapped a hole in the floor. As I step onto the space, down I go 17:41 5. Come back up stairs and walk back towards altar 17:41 6. Hit something in a hallway, and hear a distant rumbling. Not sure what happened. 17:41 7. Find an elf corpse on the floor. Perfect for saccing 17:42 8. Sac corpse. God obliterates me 17:42 :D 17:42 Didn't realize the elf corpse was of a monster I'd charmed and thus triggered "pet sacrifice" conditions 17:42 the rumble of distant thunder means you killed a pet 17:42 I figured that much, but didn't realize it was the elf corpse 17:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor5 (Brd Dro Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:42588 17:42 I thought it was the gargoyle or winter wolf I'd charmed 17:43 i've done similar 17:43 not that exactly but wound up sacrificing something i shouldn't have 17:44 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:45 <@luxidream> happened to me too 17:45 <@luxidream> just moseying along 17:45 <@luxidream> sacrifice a unicorn to convert an altar 17:45 <@luxidream> do you want your possessions identified? 17:46 hi there owo 17:47 <@luxidream> greetings owo 17:48 i put chikpea cooking water in a pan with some tomato stuf and other stuf 17:48 soon i will have essentially chana dal 17:50 <@luxidream> nice 17:50 <@luxidream> I'm not a big fan of indian food sadly 17:50 for real 17:50 i love indian food 17:50 is great 17:50 <@luxidream> yea just doesn't click with me 17:51 fair enough 17:51 being broke is great for my cooking skills, i'll say that 17:51 you can make so much good shit with just random dry beans and tins of tomato paste, bit of onion and garlic 17:51 and rice obviously 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3421 17:54 lux: I don't actually care for sweets and cakes, it turns out 17:54 i'll eat them if they're infront of me 17:54 but i never buy or make such things 17:54 myself 17:56 love indian food 17:56 sooo spicy 17:56 <{Demo}2> i dont like it i cant handle it 17:56 actually that's not entirely true 17:56 i was slightly jealous of Demo's krispy kreme 17:56 the sweet tooth in me is fairly weak tho 17:57 i also love chocolate 17:57 i like savory foods 17:57 and spicy foods 17:57 the most 17:57 moist 17:57 I love myself some sweets 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:33509 17:57 i used to eat sweets a lot but i think that was more cuz my ex had a big sweet tooth and there were always sweets in the house 17:57 i don't care enough to buy them, usually 17:59 altho... there are some special exceptions 17:59 baklava is amazing shit 17:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:59 it is turkish i believe 18:03 or more generally middle-eastern cuisine maybe idk 18:03 K2: did u try baklava in iraq 18:04 not in iraq no 18:04 i've had it tho 18:04 what's ur take 18:04 if made right, its gooood 18:04 here you can get it in loads of turkish owned kebab joints 18:04 and its usually pretty good 18:05 dammit now i want baklava 18:05 lool 18:05 same 18:05 bhaaklava 18:05 yeah the stress is on the first syllable right 18:05 wrongly stressed words make me mad >:c 18:05 like when americans say babúshka 18:06 it's bábushka you fucks 18:06 get it right 18:06 babhaakshka 18:06 rofl 18:06 :P 18:07 K2: i might do a cheeky big lebowski rewatch 18:07 switching gears - you notice GME stonks today? 18:07 i have not 18:07 go look 18:07 how are the stonks 18:08 okey 18:08 uhhhhh 18:08 that looks like quite a jump 18:08 in just the last hour or so?? 18:08 yup 18:08 wow 18:08 and after hours trading, its up even more 18:08 MOAR 18:08 TO THE MOOOOON 18:09 we'll see 18:09 lel 18:09 but will the dude abide? 18:09 I finally have a gain hah 18:10 i was contacted by science magazine today cuz im on a 100+ author manuscript about a SARS-CoV-2 protein 18:10 which is in review there 18:10 would be p. neat if it gets published 18:11 wow 18:11 whoa 18:11 nice aoei 18:11 that's awesome 18:11 which bits did you contribute to? 18:11 i didn't do much to contribute xD i drew a reaction mechanism basically 18:11 lol 18:11 but it is that way with these big papers with loads of authors 18:11 PhD aoei was quoted as saying 'this shit is bad. like, really bad.' 18:11 ^ in the report 18:12 preprint version is on bioRxiv.org: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.12.378422v2 18:12 basically soem crystallographer dude asked me "can this molecule break down to make this other one we found stuck in the protein" 18:12 and i was all "no fucking way can it do that" 18:12 but then i looked at it some more and was liek "oh huh, it actually can because of bla and thing" 18:12 ^ also in the report 18:12 lol 18:12 word for word 18:12 yes ofc 18:12 "Actually, this molecule can break down. Trust me." 18:13 "look i made a picture of it" 18:13 18:13 You zap the wand of striking at the molecule! The molecule breaks apart! 18:13 lmao 18:13 so serious question - because of the progress made with a vaccine(s) for covid-19, how could that apply to something similar for the common cold? its also a type of corona visus correct? 18:13 *virus 18:13 iirc cold is rhinovirus 18:14 not sure if same 18:14 i am not a virologist tho 18:14 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14 dont deflect.... answer me! 18:14 :P 18:14 <@malor> also the issue with the common cold is there are so many strains. 18:15 if we put all of our nethack brains together, we could figure it out 18:15 'aosdict, refactor this molecular chain' - 4 hours later, done 18:15 <@malor> now don't get me wrong: I am a fan of variants. But you know I don't think we need SLEX level 🙂 18:15 Well, I never liked biology, so there's that 18:16 anyway that paper wasn't vaccine-related, they were screening drugs that might inhibit the Mpro protein from SARS-CoV-2 for potential drug treatments 18:16 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 18:16 Mpro is what it uses to break down your body's own proteins to make copies of itself 18:16 ah 18:16 * K2 nods like he knowingly understands all of this 18:16 so if you inhibit that, you can mitigate the virus's progress or shut it down completely, potentially 18:17 idk whether any good drug leads came out of any of these studies honestly 18:17 i'm just in it for the fame and glamour 18:17 you just like the stock 18:17 xD 18:17 heh 18:17 right after i graduated corona got really big and my old lab was working on nothing but this drug screen thing 18:18 and i got on the paper by chatting to some people and drawing things, while the others were slaving away in the lab kek 18:19 still in review tho so who knows, but "published in Science" would look cool on a resumé lel 18:21 <@riker> k2 any dnh hdf crashes for malor? 18:21 <@riker> as of 15 min ago or so 18:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a copper winged helmet entrusted to her by Odin, on T:4621 18:23 i will look 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a trident entrusted to her by Odin, on T:4704 18:24 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 597 points, T:1583, killed by an acidic corpse 18:25 @riker - https://termbin.com/580v 18:27 <@ChrisANG> Projectile bug 18:27 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 18:29 <@ChrisANG> Re: Covid Vaccines: My understanding is that this new vaccination technique (mRNA vaccines) should allow for faster turnaround times when developing vaccines going forwards. 18:30 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:31 <@ChrisANG> Bingo: specific to Bards with the Singing Sword set to the courage song. 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 106 points, T:1068, killed by a nearly deceased newt 18:33 nice, ChrisANG 18:35 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 18:35 -!- microla has joined #hardfought 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 87 points, T:689, killed by a nearly deceased jackal 18:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:42 oh my... GME closed at 91.71 for normal trading, after hours its up to 175.00 and climbing 18:42 that's pretty crazy 18:42 is this the big short squeeze? 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4568 points, T:4321, killed by a mithril dwarvish spear 18:44 -!- microlance has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] shadowrider38 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:63297 18:49 dNetHack updated (all servers) 18:49 ^ bugfix 18:52 I have access to all the financial news I could want, yet I am going to first go to wallstreetbets to see what they think of the GME thing 18:55 heh 19:00 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] owen (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 3142 points, T:3561, killed by a bone orcish arrow 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 171514 points, T:19391, quit 19:12 -!- Umbire is now known as ShowerUmby 19:12 -!- Lurchy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] owen (Val Cen Fem Neu), 316 points, T:394, killed by a dwarf 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire elemental, on T:5692 19:19 !who 19:19 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] shadowrider38 [nh370] beastly [slex] tinklebear [evil] telegarn [evil] dbanethacker [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 19:21 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had an ironshod staff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1129 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 4667 points, T:1671, killed by a giant cockroach 19:34 rip 19:41 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 19:45 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:48 -!- ShowerUmby has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:19155 19:52 -!- ShowerUmby has joined #hardfought 19:55 it is not recommended to be on irc in the shower 19:58 can confirm 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:19205 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:14796 20:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6032 20:09 aoei: wdym "can confirm" 20:09 * ShowerUmby squints 20:10 i mean it is known 20:11 stop it before you break your phone D: 20:11 that phrase made it sound like personal experience 20:11 ,':1 20:11 well, there are waterproof phones out there 20:14 -!- Deathsus_ has joined #hardfought 20:14 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 172 points, T:587, killed by an arrow 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:19353 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided class j, on T:19369 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:899 20:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7271 20:27 ShowerUmby: lol 20:28 srsly tho why you on your phone in the shower 20:28 I'm not. 20:28 and how long are you showers 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:17146 20:28 I just can't be fucked to change my nickname back because other things are on my mind. 20:28 u been in there a good while 20:28 lol 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 736 points, T:2437, killed by an uninjured rock piercer 20:42 -!- Deathsus_ has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:18316 20:45 <@nabru> !pom 20:45 @nabru: The moon is waxing gibbous; full moon in 2 days. 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18419 20:59 -!- ShowerUmby has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 227 points, T:996, killed by an uninjured brown mold 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:20189 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:20203 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 243 points, T:629, killed by a gas spore's explosion 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:28669 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 419 points, T:1527, killed by a wounded giant bat 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:28670 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:20796 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:21290 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:21846 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 7314 points, T:5281, killed by a human mummy 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:65197 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 126 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:22584 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 1400 points, T:1486, killed by a rock troll of Tyr 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 9509 points, T:9230, killed by a bolt of cold 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2061 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3618 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] CropperS (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 3590 points, T:4241, killed by a wounded Woodland-elf 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:69462 23:27 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7214 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2908 points, T:7221, killed by a bolt of cold 23:42 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 23:46 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 19754 points, T:8682, killed by a gnomish sergeant, while sleeping 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3224 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3389 23:57 [hdf-us] [spl] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:10941