00:15 !tell aoei i copied your evilhack config to my account on eu server. commenting out the line OPTIONS=nudist seemed to work. no idea why! 00:15 Will do, tinklebear! 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 32647 points, T:14088, killed by a winged gargoyle 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Val Hum Mal Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed him unworthy, on T:10438 00:36 grrr, do you just not *get* the uncurse effect by doing that? 00:36 (yes my sword is still cursed from last time and i still haven't managed to find any means of uncursing except more fountains lmao) 00:36 "If you are neutral or chaotic, your long sword is cursed, loses its rustproofing, and may lose an enchantment, and you abuse your wisdom." 00:37 but you can't get the random uncurse effect? 00:37 re: Excal dipping 00:37 You can 00:37 i'm getting other fountain effects by trying this 00:37 (like water demons lol) 00:37 but since it's a long sword it's subjected to the same 1/6 chance as if you were lawful 00:37 which is bad in your case 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1875 00:39 imo this is probably something that should be noted on the wiki since a nonzero amount of people like to use fountains to uncurse stuff for specific strats 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1697 points, T:2759, killed by an uninjured hill orc, while praying 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Val Hum Mal Neu), 30285 points, T:11891, killed by a heavily wounded mountain centaur 01:00 Oh, question 01:00 Centaurs can be ridden while they wear armor and such, yeah? 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1245 points, T:1928, killed by a falling rock 01:22 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 01:25 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Client Quit] 01:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:5594 02:30 Umbire: is that an evilhack-specific question? (if so, I don't know the answer, but would assume yes they can) 02:30 In general 02:30 including variants 02:31 only in evilhack can they wear body armor, afaik 02:31 But they can wear everything else that they could in vanilla, is the implication I'm getting from that 02:31 Y/N? 02:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:6176 02:36 I lack direct experience trying to equip/mount centaurs. so your guess is likely better than mine. 02:37 (my observation re body armor is from comparison of breakarm() in src/mondata.c) 02:42 I'll just check mondata.c myself then, that's enough of a clue to go on + I need to get in the habit of diving more 02:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:00 Hi Ammy 03:00 Bye Ammy 03:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bezaban (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2401 points, T:5885, killed by a heavily wounded raven, while praying 03:19 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:8853 03:39 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7033 points, T:325, killed by a fox 03:44 [hdf-au] [fh] So Smol (PeachMuffin) (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 25061 points, T:365, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome lord, while praying 03:44 rip 03:46 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:50 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:53 !tell K2 any chance to see the slex-268 bugfixes (they're on the master branch) go live? I've got a far-progressed astronaut run on hdf-eu and would like to not lose that to inventory corruption errors ;) the two recent commits fix those bugs 03:53 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 03:56 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 04:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1692 04:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:50913 04:18 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 28627 points, T:2335, killed by an iguana 04:32 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:50 -!- tromix has quit [Quit: fBNC - https://bnc4free.com] 04:50 . 04:52 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 04:52 hi amateurhour ♥ 04:54 anything particularly slexy that happened after I was gone? 04:54 i died 04:55 noooooooo! 04:55 leviathan couldn't drain my int when it attacked me 04:55 but a little mind flayer mimic could apparently 04:55 oh, the mindflayer mimic 04:56 those can be dangerous, yeah 04:56 for some reason monks start with liek 6 int max 04:56 yeah monks usually have lots of WIS but not much INT 04:56 it hit 3 times the second I walked next to it 04:56 so it was just straight up gg 04:57 oh my helm must have rusted away shortly before that 04:57 the floor above that one was turboaids lol 04:57 !lastgame amateurhour 04:57 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1589035969.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/slex/dumplog/1610457941.slex.txt 04:57 yeah there was no helmet 04:57 almost every square was lava on floor above 04:57 with a really convoluted path through it, one wide 04:58 and there was an umbra zombie causing me to be confused every 5 seconds 04:58 oh *that* level, I think jonadab suggested it :D 04:58 level was full of monsters too 04:58 yeah it's a bigroom variant 04:59 btw is the chance of getting artifact gifts really reduced? 04:59 I really want to get gauntlets of defense 04:59 it definitely is 04:59 but can't ever seem to get it 04:59 used 2 bags of tricks at two different altars 05:00 also the "guaranteed" first gift isn't guaranteed at all anymore, just more likely to be gifted if it doesn't exist yet 05:00 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:00 also am I missing something about how strength drain works 05:00 I couldn't restore back to full str with unihorn 05:00 so my max went from 18 to 16 to 14 to 13 05:06 not sure if that's SLASH'EM-specific or even present in vanilla (I said vanilla, not 3.6 :P ) but if an attribute was drained very much, it can happen that the unihorn doesn't restore it back to full 05:06 also every time the unihorn says "Damn! It doesn't work!", it permanently not-restored a point, but I guess you knew that already 05:07 any tips for getting decent ac as an asura? 05:07 uhh it's more difficult for them, there's no set in stone rule but generally "get better armor, enchant it, up body armor skill if you have that etc." :P 05:10 I mean I managed to get quite far with just -2ac 05:10 well getting good AC as an asura (which is designed to have bad AC) is simply difficult, they're meant to be a bit of a glass cannon 05:10 don't think I'd have managed to get beyond that, might have managed the space base 05:11 such a shame that I died before finding the space base, that's the most fun part I've seen so far 05:11 except the sewers as sokosolver of course lol 05:11 oh god I wouldn't have flying this time 05:12 can sokosolvers read scroll of earth without luck penalty? 05:12 uhh no, why would they? 05:13 idk, was just asking 05:14 as long as you don't have a luckstone, it'll time out quickly anyway 05:15 is it only -1 luck penalty? 05:15 yes, and IIRC a 1 in 300 (or was it 600?) chance per turn to time out 05:16 really want to get those gauntlets of defense lol 05:17 well here's a free hint for slex lol: basing your strategy around having a specific artifact is usually not the best idea :P (unless it's your quest artifact) 05:17 it just seems really important for asura 05:17 then again, the first "guaranteed" gift is also more likely to be given as the BOFH reward if it hasn't generated yet 05:18 ideally would just avoid vecna 05:18 never killed them in slash'em because I didn't get to xlvl 16 or whatever 05:19 well IMHO vecna isn't nearly as bad in slex compared to slashem 05:19 oh why's that? 05:19 instead of being completely unable to hit him with +3 or lower weapons, you have a 1 in 3 chance to damage him anyway, and he spams spells less often 05:20 oh, that's nice 05:20 does that apply to all 'need +x to hit' monsters? 05:20 yeah 05:21 in SLASH'EM, if you encounter a statue gargoyle early on, it's well possible that the only thing you can do is to try to avoid it, but in slex you can hack it up (if slowly) with your +0 weapon 05:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:22 might play more during lunch break idk 05:23 yay :) I'll be here all day because it's my first day since over three weeks on which I don't have a tour 05:24 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:26 -!- tromix has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:28 need to figure out a way to raise int 05:28 because I'm pretty sure most of my slex deaths are because of int drain 05:28 well your conduct makes that much harder :P eating INT-draining monsters can increase it 05:29 followed closely by being paralyzed by a random monster (see the tai chi girl) 05:29 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 05:29 and being banished to gehennom 05:29 banishment is toned down greatly in the upcoming 2.70 because I realized it was too deadly 05:29 such a cuuuuuuuute asian girl with very soft leather peep-toes! <3 05:32 -!- tromix has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:32 those int-packs or whatever, do they give more int when blessed? 05:32 nope, but there's an artifact one that gives more 05:32 and does spirituality help with getting sacrifice gifts? 05:33 no 05:33 sacrifice gifts are simply rare, you have to get lucky to receive one (but maxlunar somehow got two of them yesterday) 05:33 yeah that's why I was wondering if I was somehow cursed 05:33 lol 05:34 he must have gotten very good RNG 05:39 I find altar camping rather boring but might have to try it 05:40 well, be aware of the 1% chance per sacrifice that the altar disappears, which is basically the game telling you "now you've altar camped enough, time to continue playing the game!" :P 05:40 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 05:41 is that affected by spirituality/ 05:41 nah 05:42 however, if it's an attended temple, then it's only 0.2% chance 05:42 what's the point of spirituality lol 05:42 makes your prayer timeout faster and your magic cancellation more effective 05:42 and what does invoke deity do? is it just a second #pray ? 05:43 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Skills#Magic_cancellation 05:43 naaaaaah why would it be? invoke deity's description should be clear enough... if your alignment record is positive, you may be healed, but if it's negative, your deity bashes you and you take damage 05:43 and it's strictly for healing HP damage, not status effects 05:49 fair enough 05:49 also unlike a real prayer, invoke deity uses just one turn, so if it fails, you're not a sitting duck for 4 turns 05:51 You saw demons being gated in 1 time 05:51 You saw demon lords being gated in 1 time 05:51 what are the odds of that? :P 05:52 apparently regular demons have 1 in 20 chance of gating in a lord and 1 in 250 of pulling a prince 05:52 strangely enough lords also have only 1 in 50 of pulling a prince and 1 in 20 of pulling another lord? seems rather low to me 05:52 :| 05:53 a prince, on the other hand, summons another prince with 1 in 20 and a lord with 1 in 4 05:53 with how common regular demons are 1/20 seems pretty wild 05:53 yeah a melee with them can be dangerous 05:54 -!- tromix has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:05 how's your slex game going? 06:05 lately it hasn't been going at all because I'm waiting for K2 to install the latest bugfix that could corrupt my char's inventory and make me lose the game 06:05 yolo 06:05 err, the bugfix makes it so that my inventory can't be corrupted any longer :P 06:05 yolo 06:06 accidentally made it sound as if the bugfix causes that bug to happen 06:06 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:06 might as well play on without the bug fix :) 06:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Brd Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6927 06:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11604 06:13 !role 06:13 nabru: fiqhack caveman 06:17 nabru: slex astronaut 06:17 !role 06:17 aoei: Message from tinklebear at 2021-02-09 00:15 EST: i copied your evilhack config to my account on eu server. commenting out the line OPTIONS=nudist seemed to work. no idea why! 06:17 aoei: notdnethack noble 06:17 haha amateurhour, I would have said "slex preversioner" but that's a 2.70 role and thus not available yet 06:17 huh weird 06:17 aoei: slex butt lover 06:18 how's my roleplaying as an evil version of beholder going 06:18 !tell tinklebear did you report it to k2 06:18 tinklebear shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aoei. 06:18 lol that's already my irl role B^) 06:18 amateurhour: it's great :D but what I still didn't get is why butt lovers cannot lie? 06:18 would be boring to play in a game 06:19 https://youtu.be/X53ZSxkQ3Ho?t=29 Amy 06:20 oh, somehow I didn't know that song yet 06:20 aoei: I did not tell K2 06:20 tinklebear: Message from aoei at 2021-02-09 06:18 EST: did you report it to k2 06:21 ty, Beholder 06:21 my guess is that german radio stations don't broadcast it because they're run by prudes :P they even censored large parts of Everlast's "what it's like" here in germany, I fail to see what's so offensive about the word "whore" 06:21 I mean they might have in the 90s 06:22 but I think it resurged in popularity after being in a film like Shrek(?) 06:23 oh that reminds me, there was also a song that's literally called "fuck you" and amazingly enough the uncensored version ran in a TV show once, but after that they replaced the line with "forget you" which was booooring 06:23 censorship in media is so stupid :P 06:24 they played the censored version on uk radio too 06:24 for that one 06:24 ugh 06:25 you're still listening to radio stations? I didn't know you were that old. 06:25 well I don't, but my roommate does, and always the same ones 06:25 do they not play the radio at like shopping centres and stuff? 06:25 that said, my alarm clock is set to wake me up with "rainbow 2, maximum rocket pop" radio in the morning 06:25 they are all the same ones 06:28 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 06:28 I wake up every morning to covid numbers on the radio followed by overly-poppy music 06:29 I like waking up to the radio, but the content isn't great 06:29 haha, thankfully my getting up times are different each day so it's not always the stupid news broadcast :P 06:29 I just have spotify on shuffle for an alarm, who knows what madness I will awake to 06:29 haha, spotify shuffle is risky 06:29 having music as an alarm clock would probably ruin music for me. 06:32 that's the challenge.. I've had various songs I feel I like and would like to wake up to as my alarm 06:32 just end up hating them 06:32 for me if it's the same song every time I start sleeping through them 06:33 or - the intro gives me entirely the wrong mood 06:33 so have to put giant playlist on shuffle for it 06:33 the radio station I'm using for my alarm rarely ever plays songs I really like 06:35 that makes me wonder why you picked that station lol 06:35 [hdf-us] [fh] Grog (nabru) (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the ghost of So Smol, the former Cutpurse, on T:515 06:35 well it plays okay music, finding a radio station that consistently plays great music seems impossible to me 06:36 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:37 [hdf-us] [fh] Grog (nabru) (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 24697 points, T:708, killed by a giant mimic 06:37 that means you haven't been consistently listening to a specific radio stations during puberty so the music of your formative years have been ingrained into your brain 06:37 radio stations these days are mostly brainwashy. 06:37 rip Grog :'( 06:38 "the hits from the 80s, 90s, 00s and the best hits from today"[tm] 06:39 I'm not sure the 2010s are already old enough to invoke nostaligic feelings 06:39 the best german radio station in my formative years was 'project 89.0 digital' 06:39 with 'amok alex' and 'mad dog die morgenlatte' 06:43 the station got switched to a pop station in 2003 and i never really listened to radio again 06:43 pop music is great 06:44 there is arguably good pop music but that was not the pop music gettign playing in 2003 06:45 shower though: have you ever wondered how many people think about fucking when they hear "Pop-Musik"? 06:46 i don't think people use the term 'poppen' anymore lol 06:47 had to look up the top 100 of 2003 and there's some cracking songs in there 06:48 all the things she said by tatu, special cases by massive attack, beautiful by christina aguilera 06:48 are you thinking pop like britney spears rather than mainstream chart stuff? 06:48 but also "jenny from the block" 06:48 the billboard nr. 1 song of 2003, 'in da club' by fofty, was the first song getting played on the new radio station 06:49 you can not be telling me Jenny from the block is not a banger 06:49 I bet you still know the chorus to this day 06:49 I was wondering if you mean the song or the singer. but I disagree with both accounts 06:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dly6p4Fu5TE 06:50 blast of nostalgia lets goooo 06:51 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PstrAfoMKlc this one is better 06:51 christina aguilera is epic 06:51 hmm i wonder who produced that 06:51 Nominations: Kids' Choice Award for Favorite Song 06:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:15089 06:53 i was like 17 at the time lol, i hated the commercialism of pop, and instead listened to cool metal and stuff 06:53 which i later learned was just as commercialized 06:53 I was 13 at the time and hated pop, too 06:54 lol when i was a kid i used to love spice girls 06:54 oh wait i still love spice girls 06:54 nvm 06:54 me too! 06:54 my younger sister liked spice girls so i couldn't like it even if i wanted to 06:54 I REALLY REALY RELY WANNA ZIGAZIGA AAAA 06:55 my older sister told me spice girls were lame and made fun of me :c 06:55 I still like metal and rock 06:55 i grew up on spice girls and pink floyd 06:55 honestly pretty much everything except country and hiphop 06:55 and hiphop 06:55 i like hiphop and my cool big sister encouraged hiphop 06:55 our national radio has a weekly rebroadcast of the single charts. every week they advance one year and they cover the period from 1968 to 1995. 06:55 that was respetable to like 06:55 spice girls was not 06:56 (but i still had it on casette tape anyway) 06:56 respectable* 06:56 it's unbelievable how much crap is in there. the charts for a whole year are usually okay-ish but the weekly consists of 80% crap. 06:56 girls aloud have some bangers too 06:56 haha nice bhaak 06:56 oh yeah i remember them 06:56 not as memorable or iconic as spice girls tho not by a long way 06:57 the mainstream-produced pop was as bad and boring as the worst xanax rap nowadays 06:57 i didnt know you had a younger sister stenno 06:57 stenno: yeah but you'd think this is a modern phenomena. but no, they had bland and unoriginal songs even in the 70s 06:57 do you have more or just one sib 06:57 bhaak: lol yeah 06:57 that's kinda fun 06:58 i guess those just get forgetten 06:58 i have a sister and she was killing it in uni and is now killing it in her job 06:58 so one feels like there is loads of trash today 06:58 and glorifies the older days 06:58 oh man Dido that brings back some memories too 06:58 stenno: lol cool 06:58 she is basically like me apart from that she actually stayed attentive and dilligent after she got a teenager 06:58 hahaha 06:58 so she is very successful now 06:59 my little sister is killing it at uni, will have phd soon too 06:59 i also killed it at uni but i have no career now 06:59 so F 06:59 oh hey aoei you should check out Tricky if you haven't already 06:59 well my sister never dived into that certain kind of alternative culture that we both are familiar with 06:59 can't remember if we talked about them before 06:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:45387 06:59 I only know the song Tricky 07:00 by whowever 07:00 Run DMC 07:00 rundmc 07:00 i think 07:00 haha I meant the music artist Tricky 07:00 and covered by bloodhound gang! 07:00 ok them i dont know i guess 07:00 also lol stenno 07:00 one fierce beer coaster is still awesome 07:01 you make it sound like alternative cultures are a detriment to career success :^) 07:01 aoei: well they can definetely be 07:01 kek 07:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 196244 points, T:15225, killed by a vampire 07:01 we are of course talking about killing it in nethack too much 07:02 insetad of killing it in the job 07:02 the best alternative culture around 07:02 yeah of course 07:03 since i have nothing better to do with my life today 07:03 i am going to learn Vue JS 07:03 good luck 07:03 pls press F to pay your respects 07:04 F 07:04 thanks amateurhour 07:04 it means a lot 07:04 idk about your area but there seems to be way more React jobs here than Vue 07:05 good point i think i saw react more 07:05 all these frameworks kinda blow 07:05 i'll do react instead lol 07:05 vue is better 07:05 job is better 07:05 p-"How much respects do you want to pay?">2zm 07:05 lol Muad 07:05 have fun wrapping your head around hooks 07:05 huh react hooks are fine 07:05 better than the abomination they concocted with classes 07:06 i've encountered such a concept in other libs and such 07:06 im sure i can get the hang of it 07:06 im inexperienced but a moderately adept hacker 07:06 u will see 07:07 if you want to get drunk quickly, take a shot each time you will encounter an 'order of hooks' error 07:07 lmao 07:07 i have no alcohol unfortunately 07:07 what crazy stuff are you doing to get those 07:08 https://reactjs.org/docs/hooks-rules.html#explanation 07:08 anyway to start i only want to write something really simple that fetches JSON from the appropriate URL for my REST API 07:08 and then throws it in a table 07:08 how hard could it be? 07:08 (famous last words? D:) 07:09 so you're putting hooks behind conditionals? 07:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1382 points, T:2347, killed by withering away 07:10 This tutorial is designed for people who prefer to learn by doing. If you prefer learning concepts from the ground up, check out our step-by-step guide. You might find this tutorial and the guide complementary to each other. 07:10 yey i like React already 07:10 give me teh lern by hax tutorial pls 07:15 also you should join #reactjs and #node.js 07:16 and probably ##javascript 07:17 Slash'EM Extended updated (all servers) 07:17 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-02-09 03:53 EST: any chance to see the slex-268 bugfixes (they're on the master branch) go live? I've got a far-progressed astronaut run on hdf-eu and would like to not lose that to inventory corruption errors ;) the two recent commits fix those bugs 07:18 woooooooohooooooo thanks K2 ♥ 07:18 will eat something and then probably continue my run! yaaaaaay! 07:18 sorry i forgot when you told me last 07:19 no problem, I had too little free time to play anyway 07:19 today is different because I have no tour at all :D 07:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:46736 07:19 yay 07:20 a lil bird told me you're adding evilhack's ice queen branch to slex 07:20 oh yeah, however I renamed the uniques, so instead of Katelyn there's Vera the Ice Queen and Elaine the Enchantress 07:20 cool 07:20 those are based on girls I knew IRL, although those are obviously not their real names ;) 07:20 what about the dogs 07:21 they're Osbourne and Boa 07:21 lol 07:21 lol 07:21 you should name them 'amateurhour' and 'amateurhour jr.' 07:21 hahaha 07:21 and give them bobble hats 07:21 amateurhour do you approve? 07:22 Why does she change her name when turning into the enchantress? 07:23 schitzo 07:23 in slex they're different persons, Vera is the ice queen and Elaine is her rival-but-also-friend, so Elaine gets angry at the player (and is very hostile upon spawning) when Vera is defeated 07:23 ah, a different twist 07:24 deep lore 07:24 yeah, Vera and Elaine liked to tease each other, but deep inside her heart, they also liked each other 07:24 stenno: done 07:24 ok good 07:24 * amateurhour shrugs 07:24 if they have bobble hats I'm game 07:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Brd Elf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8491 07:25 LarienTelrunya you should just add bobble hats so amateurhour will stfu about it :) 07:25 yeah we have bobble hats in slex (almost mistyped that as "bobble hearts" :P ) and I can make dogs wear them :D 07:25 lol 07:25 slex 1 - evilhack 0 07:25 BOOBLE HARTS 07:26 thank you for your contribution to the slex items list ❤️❤️❤️ *bundlebundle* 07:26 amateurhour i feel like we all won today, not just slex 1 evilhack 0 07:26 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27 !gt #hardfought 07:27 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:27 !booze amateurhour 07:27 * Beholder pours amateurhour a pint of the hard stuff, acquired by NotTheOracle\dnt at 482 Kelvin. 07:27 chug 07:27 beholder doesn't have the 'go team' command :| 07:27 no 07:27 inb4 'beholder is not rodney' 07:27 didnt want to steal something iconic from #nethack channel 07:28 instead we have goat 07:28 !goat amateurhour 07:28 K2's goat runs up and kicks amateurhour in the arse! Baaaaaa! 07:28 ^ approve 07:28 rodney also has !goat 07:28 yup 07:28 thats what i meant 07:28 ah gotcha 07:28 o/ 07:29 it should randomly pick between the goat kicking and saying '[foo] is the greatest of all time!' 07:29 !8ball will stenno ask me to marry him someday? 07:29 K2: Outlook good 07:29 o7 07:29 \o/ 07:29 lol 07:29 heh 07:29 brb 07:29 lol cute 07:29 whens the wedding? 07:32 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 41014 points, T:9220, killed by a soldier ant 07:38 !booze 07:38 * Beholder delivers nabru a tall glass of suds, fermented by FCCBot at 39 Kelvin. 07:42 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 07:42 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:51916 07:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided krakens, on T:51920 07:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:51921 08:01 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 16442 points, T:1837, killed by a large kobold 08:07 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:52199 08:23 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by a giant cockroach), on T:1287 08:23 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1426 points, T:1292, killed by a sewer rat 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had a copper elven dagger entrusted to her by Mog, on T:44080 08:27 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 08:29 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had an elven long sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:44201 08:33 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 29035 points, T:14008, killed by a heavily wounded leocrotta 08:47 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:44749 08:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1580 points, T:2456, killed by an uninjured invisible titan 08:49 !lastgame Hill 08:49 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/Hill/nethack/dumplog/1594706013.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/H/Hill/nethack/dumplog/1612876175.nh.html 08:55 [hdf-eu] [slex] AmyBSOD (Ast Hrl Mal Neu), 4455221 points, T:79024, killed by a monster (ancient cancel dragon) 08:55 and I died. goddammit, that was such a promising run 08:55 !lastgame AmyBSOD 08:55 LarienTelrunya: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for spl:AmyBSOD) | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AmyBSOD/slex/dumplog/1608117621.slex.txt 08:56 rip 08:59 rip 08:59 rip in peaces 08:59 -36ac wtf 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a robe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:984 09:00 that's nothing, the ancient cancel dragon was still tearing me up like a hot knife through butter 09:00 would have needed about -70 or so to not get autohit by that 09:00 is the commander suit like -10 ac or something 09:00 yeah the artifact gives a significant AC bonus 09:07 what you gonna try next? 09:07 shoe fetishist and butt lover :P and yes, that means I won't play until I get the next version out the door 09:12 I wonder if covid has made its way into slex 09:12 feels like right up its alley 09:12 FIQ: you got behind the times, it's in since last april or so :P 09:12 ha 09:12 of course 09:16 I suppose it might have been in longer than that 09:16 aren't there SARS monsters? 09:17 that's a type of coronavirus 09:17 yes but those were also part of the "corona update" 09:17 oh right 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1310 09:19 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 09:20 oh hey, that run was #1 on the 2.68 high-score list :D 09:20 #7 on the all-time hardfought scoreboard for slex 09:21 does that make you feel better or worse at splatting 09:21 better, of course, because it means that I did well and might in fact be able to do so again with a future char :) 09:23 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 41336 points, T:6340, killed by a rothe 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2203 points, T:3611, killed by a giant beetle 09:29 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 336 points, T:1006, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1812 09:33 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 274 points, T:815, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had an elven long sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:46068 09:42 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 09:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 7434 points, T:8187, killed by an uninjured plains centaur 09:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:638 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 168 points, T:373, killed by an uninjured hobbit 10:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2816 points, T:778, quit 10:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1562 10:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6424 points, T:1575, killed by a priestess of Amaterasu Omikami 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1883 10:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1707 points, T:1660, killed by a black unicorn 10:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1671 10:34 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 10:38 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:33940 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 8770 points, T:3821, killed by a piranha, while helpless 10:46 -!- qt has quit [Quit: be back later] 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Roamer, on T:34656 10:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:52247 10:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:52247 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Nomad, on T:35107 10:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3548 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6353 points, T:3510, killed by a saber-toothed tiger 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 7096 points, T:3265, killed by a slightly wounded vampire in bat form 10:58 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 11:00 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:24739 11:01 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:24818 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 530 points, T:701, killed by an uninjured hobbit 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67721 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67722 11:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4029358 points, T:52288, ascended 11:12 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1612041712.evil.html 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:67729 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh4] Fiora (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 24932 points, T:1427, killed by a dwarf king 11:13 gg mobileuser! 11:13 K2: so i stepped on a fire trap, it burned my cloak and then i got this message: "rn2(0) attempted, returning 0" 11:14 thx nabru! 11:15 don't worry about it wvc, that'll be pretty harmless 11:15 your current game should be safe to continue 11:15 !tell aosdict fix ur game rn2(0) smh my head 11:15 aosdict shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, amateurhour. 11:16 wvc thanks 11:16 we'll let aosdict know 11:16 you can still play correct? 11:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5229 11:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5257 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 395 points, T:838, killed by an uninjured jackal 11:26 [hdf-us] [un] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 397 points, T:549, killed by a bolt of fire 11:27 wow there's demonic abattoir in Gehennom 11:27 this is sick 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:6100 11:32 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:25811 11:34 !whereis wvc 11:34 spicycebolla: [hdf-eu] wvc [xnh]: (Cav Hum Fem Neu) T:25641 Gehennom level: 34 11:36 yani: lockpicks can be used as terrible digging tools, and pickaxes can be used as terrible unlocking tools 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2564 points, T:2051, killed by a wounded dwarf 11:40 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:26540 11:40 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:26541 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:68050 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:68052 11:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:6700 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 284 points, T:246, killed by an explosion 11:44 wvc: abattoir, now with 12.5% better spelling! 11:44 aosdict: Message from amateurhour at 2021-02-09 11:15 EST: fix ur game rn2(0) smh my head 11:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:7412 11:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:7549 11:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 355 points, T:528, killed by a wounded hobgoblin 11:54 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 11:55 ayyy luxidream gratz 11:55 <@luxidream> 1:33 11:55 <@luxidream> healer secret mvp 11:55 lemme know when ur next stream is 11:57 grayswandir, epic 11:57 <@luxidream> you don't have to lol 11:57 o - an uncursed ring of free action 11:57 <@luxidream> and yeah I broke my own code to wish for grayswandir 11:57 hmmmmmmmmmmmm 11:57 <@luxidream> I had a big stack of 4 ew at the start of the game 11:58 <@luxidream> and didn't feel like sacrificing for a weapon 11:58 anything interesting during the run? 11:59 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 11:59 <@luxidream> almost died on astral 12:00 <@luxidream> went to invoke aesculapius, got the blasting damage before the heal 12:00 yikes 12:00 <@luxidream> had already switched to ls though 12:00 <@luxidream> so it would have been ok 12:00 <{Demo}> uh oh 12:00 healer better than knight confirmed 12:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pir Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6757 12:01 I guess you've done all roles sub 2h now 12:02 <@luxidream> i have to redo tourist at some point so it becomes legit 12:02 <@luxidream> because it's like 1:59:50 on tnnt 12:03 <@luxidream> besides that yeah 12:03 <{Demo}> wow 12:03 <{Demo}> how many roles are there? 12:03 <@luxidream> lol demo 12:04 <{Demo}> is it fewer than 12? 12:04 so when's the 24h stream where you do all 13 roles? 12:04 <{Demo}> oh its 13 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1268 points, T:1005, killed by an uninjured jackal 12:04 <{Demo}> yeah thats what i was thinking 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:4258 12:05 <@riker> that's a fun category amateurhour: all roles, combined time 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 2180 points, T:4276, killed by a wounded owlbear 12:05 <@luxidream> I think that one's long enough to be segmented 12:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 642 points, T:1385, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome lady 12:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 200 points, T:2457, killed by a boulder 12:15 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:15 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "again?!"] 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Odin, on T:1369 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1480 points, T:672, killed by an uninjured gnome lady, while sleeping 12:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPyVrQ-IbPc the dogecoin millionaires of tomorrow 12:26 did you try the protection racket luxi? 12:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1418 points, T:1695, killed by a gnome lord 12:27 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 792 points, T:2170, killed by a rabid rat 12:30 I did it that game 12:30 hooa'd before ascension run 12:30 but through gehennom I had a nice -29 ac 12:31 nice, reckon it's worth it for runs? 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1192 12:31 obviously this run was good but I meant generally for healer runs 12:31 if you're speedrunning healer for some reason yeah 12:31 whether or not it's safe for streaking is another question 12:32 there are a lot of things that can go wrong 12:32 sort of possible for dwarven arc as well I guess? 12:32 yeah you kind of need good gems for that to work though 12:32 vaults in early levels don't have much money 12:33 I guess you can credit clone too 12:33 what sort of gems spawn in dlvl 1? 12:33 i think i will try a few paci runs on the second seed 12:33 bad ones 12:33 hope for dilithium crystal in mines :) 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 325 points, T:1610, killed by a bear trap 12:34 can't get that in the mines can you? 12:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1258 points, T:1058, killed by a gnome lord zombie 12:34 generation in mines is not capped 12:34 oh 12:34 so you can find any gem 12:34 TIL 12:35 I wonder if it's still true 12:36 the wiki shortly before there mentions a fixed bug 12:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 291 points, T:339, killed by a goblin zombie 12:36 i remember finding a dilithium crystal in the mines 12:37 i know speedrunners have an aversion to pets, but an arc with a pet can credit clone with ridiculous ease 12:38 even a kitten can pick up a sack with a known gem 12:39 should use it more often tbh 12:39 for arc, healer, knight I was forced to use the pet anyway 12:40 tame a pet in minetown, use a tin whistle 12:40 better if you have a leash or magic whistle of course 12:47 LarienTelrunya: Are you blaming me for your inability to detect sarcasm again? 12:47 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:47 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 12:47 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 12:48 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48 *popcorn* 12:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pri Hlf Fem Neu), 144 points, T:947, killed by a jackal 12:50 jonadab is your site ever coming back? :( 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:48366 12:51 amateurhour: Which site? 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2820 points, T:2380, killed by a wand 12:52 http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/nethack-stuff/spoilers-fourk/sokoban/nonfourk-levels.html 12:52 for example 12:52 Oh, that. 12:52 Umm, probably eventually. 12:52 I think I need to replace warthog's hardware. 12:53 jonadab: IIRC I was telling amateurhour that you suggested a lava-filled bigroom level and I then made one ;) 12:53 It runs fine while I'm watching it but then at some point while I'm doing other things the system hangs. 12:53 LarienTelrunya: "suggested" 12:53 might be possible to just sling it all in Github Pages or something 12:53 that reminds me. jonadab: i tried playing a fourk giant and got royally screwed over in sokoban because as soon as a boulder comes up against a monster, a giant automatically "squeezes past" (the message should be fixed) and takes a luck penalty 12:53 well, saying "Evil Patch idea:" is the same as suggesting something 12:54 amateurhour: warthog's main purpose is document editing, actually. Hosting that web content was always a minor feature for it. 12:54 move the content then? 12:54 I suppose. 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 844 points, T:1927, killed by an uninjured dwarf 12:55 <@Joanna> Hello owo 12:55 thoughts on the unlucky giant? 12:55 never heard of warthog before, what is it? 12:56 I was going to migrate that content to alpaca at one point; don't remember why I didn't get that done ever. 12:56 There was a reason, I just forget what it was. 12:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1817 12:56 <@Joanna> Somebody has read the rfc on hostnames 12:56 <@Joanna> Gj jona 12:56 amateurhour: jonadab had a lot of nice fourk info on warthog 12:57 hothraxxa: Dunno; as balance issues for giant race go, I don't rate sokoban as the most urgent. Figuring out what armor to make for them is a bigger issue, IMO. 12:57 eg i wanted to know what armour a giant could wear, but warthog was gone 12:57 amateurhour: warthog is my old computer at home. 12:57 sounds more like a bug than a balance issue tbf 12:57 oh right, that's a cute name for it 12:58 slex has a great fix for boulder squeezing and I think dnethack has it too :P 12:58 The new one is called rhino. 12:58 And the headless dev box is llama. 12:58 it is a bug. you should get the "do you want to pick it up" option 12:58 <@Joanna> I name my machines after Ian (M) Banks novels 12:58 hothraxxa: Hmm, NH4 is not big on yes/no questions. 12:58 are these animals all part of your 'server farm' 12:58 i name mine after turtles 12:58 <@Joanna> LOL 12:58 in hawaiian 12:58 amateurhour: household LAN. 12:58 <@Joanna> Nice a hour 12:59 <{Demo}> i name mine after WHAT THEY ARE 12:59 my last PC was named "rocket missile" :D 12:59 you have a machine named porn? 12:59 <@Joanna> Actually i give new installs new hostnames on the same machine 12:59 <@Joanna> So my current laptop has had many names 13:00 <@Joanna> Right now it's excession 13:01 <@Joanna> Before that it was djansiry 13:01 i had djansiry once but i took some antibiotics and it cleared right up 13:02 my laptop is named "Nethack PC", even though it's a laptop, not a PC :P 13:02 <@Joanna> Lol! Hothraxxa I should try that! 13:03 At work, new systems are now getting named after spices (alphabetically); but most of the systems in the building are still named for political leaders -- I started with Pharoahs and progressed forward through Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, and Roman emperors and European monarchs before eventually going to US Presidents... 13:03 my computer is called Stennos-iMac 13:03 jonadab: did you get to letter T yet :D 13:03 <@Joanna> Wow looks weird when my phone capitalises nicks that are meant to be lowercase 13:03 LarienTelrunya: ON the spices? No. 13:04 <@Joanna> Stenno how uninspired 13:04 nah, on the US presidents, obviously 13:04 The US Presidents were in chronological order. 13:04 my laptops name is called shion 13:04 <@Joanna> Better 13:04 named after a animu character stenno? 13:05 yeah 13:05 higurashi 13:05 <@Joanna> Stenno loves da animu 13:05 LarienTelrunya: I got as far as monroe before switching over; latest is now cinnamon. 13:05 never seen it 13:05 <@Joanna> I gotta watch more serial expts 13:05 <@riker> stenno which shion? tensei slime? 13:05 jonadab: aww, so you didn't reach Richardson and Eden either :D 13:06 Who? 13:06 that's what I thought first too riker haha 13:06 Dick Richardson and John Henry Eden, from the Fallout series 13:06 higurashi no naku koro ni 13:06 <@Joanna> Nobody remembers Djanseriy tho 13:06 LarienTelrunya: Not familiar, sorry. 13:06 <@Joanna> :C 13:06 <@Joanna> Less animu more books ppl 13:07 !tell LarienTelrunya daily reminder to update your OS to something sane (day 1) 13:07 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, amateurhour. 13:07 :^) 13:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4707 points, T:2816, killed by a jackal 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1108 13:07 lol what is a "sane" OS? 13:07 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2021-02-09 13:07 EST: daily reminder to update your OS to something sane (day 1) 13:07 <@Joanna> Still can't believe she's devs on doze 13:07 At one point I had a series of computers named after protagonists who died in the Dragonbone Chair series of books. 13:07 nowdays i would probably call it senjougahara 13:07 <@Joanna> HOW 13:07 windows 10 would be less insane than XP 13:07 @Joanna: *streichelstreichelstreichel* Windows XP is a great operating system ♥ 13:08 <@Joanna> My vps hostname is seadog 13:08 I'm surprised someone is still using XP in 2021 13:08 <@Joanna> After a dead friend's irc nick 13:08 actually i can call my imac senjougahara now i think 13:08 <@Joanna> But morbid maybe, but sentimental 13:08 I usually name my boxes after greek letters. Current machine is 'alpha' 13:08 actually you'd be terrified if you knew who was still running windows xp 13:09 <@Joanna> And Amy you do not get to stroke Joanna while saying such heinous lies 13:09 :/ 13:09 LarienTelrunya: A "sane" OS is one that A) has memory protection, B) includes a decent package manager, and C) also includes a decent build system. 13:09 <@Joanna> You must instead say that Linux is supreme 13:09 It is important that the package manager be capable of resolving dependencies. 13:09 linux is pretty mediocre :P 13:09 <@Joanna> And retract this former nonsense 13:09 <@Joanna> : O 13:10 Honestly, I would rate Windows XP as the third-best OS that Microsoft has ever produced. Fourth-best if we allow a "for its day" qualifier. 13:10 lets see 13:11 win 10, win nt, and then? 13:11 win xp? 13:11 Win 10, Win 7, Win XP 13:11 Best is Seven, obviously. No reasonable person can argue with that. 13:11 <@Joanna> Shouldn't a for it's day qualifier improve its rank :/ 13:11 oh 7 was a thing, right 13:11 <@Joanna> Its 13:11 xp >>> 95/98 > 3.1 >>>>>>> 7 > 10 :P 13:11 I rate Vista as second-best, fully aware that there are plenty who will argue. 13:11 I don't miss 95/98 at all 13:11 <@Joanna> 10 is garbage 13:11 And if we allow the "for its day" qualifier, then I put PC-DOS 3.3 in third place. 13:11 <@Joanna> I agree with any on that point 13:11 95 was the first windows i used 13:12 windows 2.0 was mine 13:12 <@Joanna> Ohhh now I getchu jona 13:12 Otherwise not so much, because clearly DOS is not going to be a competitor *now*. 13:12 mine was 95, too 13:12 and before that, DOS 13:12 where's the os/2 love? 13:12 not version whatever, just 'DOS' 13:12 Ten is a very immature product that urgently needs about ten years of bugfixes. 13:12 hothraxxa: os/2 warp was the first OS i used 13:12 <@Joanna> I actually found win 7 ok 13:12 hothraxxa: I thought OS/2 was made by another company. IBM or someone. 13:12 it was a great os with a lot of potential 13:12 but 'used' meaning i executed game.exe 13:12 <@Joanna> Lol yea jona 13:12 <@Joanna> Ten is so bugged 13:12 heh, I grew up with win 3.1 and msdos 5.0 13:13 microsoft developed it for ibm 13:13 I mean, Ten is clearly a major improvement over Eight. 13:13 oh i didn't know os/2 was from MS 13:13 microsoft didn't make a better os than os/2 until w7 13:13 <@Joanna> I grew up with dos, win95 and promptly switched to Linux when i turned 12 13:13 win 10 lacks customization features, I don't even know how to change my mouse pointer to something less ugly there 13:13 win 10 is awesome because of WSL 13:14 in win 7's control panel it would be easy to change, but... 13:14 abd powershell 13:14 WSL is what makes Windows usable 13:14 Yeah, I was not aware that MS was involved in creating OS/2. 13:14 powershell is overrated lol 13:14 <@Joanna> What's WSL 13:14 really? i don't know how you rate it 13:14 WSL is like a half-crippled version of Cygwin. 13:14 Which does have the virtue of being much easier to install. 13:15 <@Joanna> Oh Windows subsystem for Linux 13:15 But nothing in WSL can run Windows-native binaries; Cygwin does not have this limitation. 13:15 wsl is great. i am talking to you from ubuntu using wsl 13:15 <@Joanna> Just use Linux 13:15 haha yeah right 13:15 i need to see if the major bugs of WSL2 have been ironed out 13:15 [hdf-us] [ndnh] BifphWombat (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 19727 points, T:3749, burned by molten lava 13:15 <@Joanna> I remember using cygwin 13:15 if so, WSL2 woop woop 13:15 Which is relevant if you want to do something like, say, build NetHack for Windows. You can't use WSL as your dev kit for that, because if you build for Windows it can't run things like DLB and so on. 13:15 <@Joanna> Years back 13:16 <@Joanna> Ah yeah 13:16 I used to use Cygwin on my Windows install back when I had a dual-boot 13:16 If all you want is to scp files to/from your Linux box, then WSL is fine. 13:16 joanna: linux year of the desktop when? 13:17 Kappa 13:17 that was already a meme 10 years ago 13:17 Eh, Linux *started* on the desktop. It only made it to server space after it got a bunch of improvements. 13:17 <@Joanna> Stenno I tried to learn React today 13:17 <{Demo}> jonadab: would be better off using cygwin to scp files on windows than WSL 13:17 <@Joanna> Fell asleep 13:17 and were you successful 13:17 apparently not 13:17 <@Joanna> Well 13:17 {Demo}: Haven't had any problem doing that with WSL. Works fine. 13:17 jonadab: completely ignoring the meaning of year of the desktop 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:69654 13:17 <@Joanna> I made some progress actually 13:18 <{Demo}> jonadab: WSL is TOTAL overkill for that 13:18 show git repo 13:18 <@Joanna> Got maybe halfway thru the tic-tac-toe tutorial 13:18 oh 13:18 <@Joanna> Nothing on git yet cuz I'm doing the tutorial first lol 13:19 <{Demo}> would you rather run a native windows binary scp or run EVERYTHING needed to run WSL just to run the scp compiled for linux? 13:19 <@Joanna> I like the way it composes things and u can use JSX 13:19 just don't use class-based components, just start with functional components 13:19 <@Joanna> It seems intuitive and nice so far at least 13:19 <{Demo}> WSL is great for running things that you can't get to build for windows without extreme hassle 13:19 <{Demo}> like if you wanna run dnethack on windows, sorry, you aren't compiling it for windows 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:69684 13:20 i'd assume that if you compile with WSL, you are compiling for WSL 13:20 i.e. linux 13:20 <{Demo}> but you can compile it on your WSL linux install and even have a desktop icon that launches it and it feels like part of windows even though it's very much an elf 13:20 <@Joanna> Yeah cross-compilig stuff is also kind of tricky in general 13:20 <@Joanna> I remember that from gentoo and lfs 13:20 <@Joanna> Pain in teh ass 13:21 Joanna react also kinda forces you to look into webpack and babel, so i recommend to do that too at some point once you understood the basics 13:21 Cross-compiling is a pain unless your entire development environment was designed for it. 13:21 <@Joanna> Right 13:21 Which tends to be the case when building stuff for an application-specific VM, for instance. 13:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:22 Hmm, does the Java VM count as application-specific? 13:22 <{Demo}> cygwin is really great if you want a tradtional 'nix like userland tool set on windows (which i do because), WSL is great if you wanna run shit that you can't get to build on windows for whatever reason (or doesn't have windows binaries distributed) but runs on linux fine 13:22 Perhaps not. 13:22 babel is the thing that turns JSX into javascript, and webpack is the thing that tells babel when and how to do it, among other things 13:23 <@Joanna> I will look into those at some point I guess. It also made me dl nodejs for the tutorial for some reason, but I should be able to modify it to use my own backend REST API 13:23 use nvm for node version management 13:23 <@Joanna> Which is in Rust 13:24 <@Joanna> I have npm lol. Is that the shit one 13:24 npm is a package manager 13:24 nvm is a node version manager 13:24 Wait, can I take these two lines out of context and claim that people in here are talking about doing Node version management in Rust? 13:24 <{Demo}> install skarn, it's like barn which is like starn which is like yarn 13:24 <@Joanna> Usually package management also manage versions 🤔 13:24 <@Joanna> Yes u can jona 13:25 npm is as good as it gets as a package manager, and nvm is just super helpful (and also developed by a person working on node) 13:25 <@Joanna> Okey 13:25 i don't think that you can manage node versions with npm, and if you can its crappy 13:25 <@Joanna> Idaf about node tho 13:25 <@Joanna> Since my backend will be actix web 13:25 well you kinda need it 13:25 <@Joanna> For what 13:25 to build your stuff 13:25 <{Demo}> you need node to run the builds 13:25 * jonadab definitely does not need Node. 13:25 for babel and webpack 13:25 <{Demo}> of frontend 13:25 <@Joanna> Oh lol 13:25 <@Joanna> Ok fine 13:26 nvm is worth using 13:26 <@Joanna> That I can do 13:26 <@Joanna> Jeez Software is so complicated 13:26 npm is pretty great honestly for deps, very easy to use 13:26 js stack is kinda infamous for that 13:26 <@Joanna> Maybe I should go back to chemistry 😩 13:26 Heh, chemistry is not complicated whatsoever. 13:26 <@Joanna> Nah its easy 13:26 Especially not organic chemistry. 13:26 supermarket time for me before it closes 13:27 <@Joanna> Organic chemistry is even easier 13:27 <@Joanna> How u think i got a PhD in it 13:27 haha how tf is organic chemistry even a topic we've known how to make church organs for centuries 13:28 <@Joanna> Lmao 13:28 all I know of chemistry is that you add acid to water, not water to acid 13:28 <@Joanna> Actually that depends on what acid 13:28 <@Joanna> But usually yes 13:28 organic chemistry has a lot of carbon 13:28 that's all I know 13:28 <@Joanna> It does 13:28 <@Joanna> Lmao 13:28 <@Joanna> Hi lux 13:29 <@Joanna> I slept in the middle of the day again lol 13:29 <{Demo}> i just know its useful for the things the gov doesnt want u to do 13:29 <@Joanna> Can confirm 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 339 points, T:533, killed by a wounded gnome lady 13:30 chemistry looks fun but also seems really hard to get into as an amateur 13:30 glass is expensive, fume hoods are pretty much required, chemicals are blegh to store 13:30 <@Joanna> Actually infinigon that's one of the reasons I chose it over CS for uni 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4941 points, T:2535, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 13:30 <@Joanna> Wanna program? Do you have a computer? 13:31 <@Joanna> Wanna do chemistry without a full university or research grade lab? Lol good luck 13:31 you don't need a research lab for chemistry 13:31 just two people and some wine 13:31 <@Joanna> Hahahaha 13:31 <@Joanna> Cute 13:32 <{Demo}> lmao 13:36 I get the idea, but at the same time I'm happy with my degree that is very disconnected from physical facilities 13:36 <{Demo}> wonder how they teach organic chemistry in covid 13:37 do you even read covid, bro 13:37 textbook problems only conduct 13:37 experiments at home, using whatever is in your kitchen 13:38 I did theoretical physics and successfully avoided doing any practicals at all :) 13:38 <{Demo}> "learning orgo in ur bathtub" 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 184 points, T:816, killed by a nearly deceased sewer rat 13:39 rat: yeah but you shoulda seen the other guy 13:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3115 13:50 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:51 chemistry is on rank 3 on the science purity ranking 13:51 so thats not bad 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had an elven spear entrusted to her by Mog, on T:51486 13:52 https://xkcd.com/435/ 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4070 points, T:3354, poisoned by a gray fungus 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1623 13:56 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 13:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pir Dro Fem Cha), 49006 points, T:9819, killed by a soldier ant 13:59 science is all trash the only pure thing is mathematics 13:59 yes, thats what the comic says 13:59 oh lawl 13:59 * aoei clicc now 14:01 lol I just checked the name of my PC (the one that runs XP and on which I develop slex): it's called "'s Mega Machine" :D (it's her old PC) 14:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3227 points, T:1494, killed by a priestess of Raijin, while paralyzed by a monster 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3535 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3535 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a gnomish wizard corpse on an altar of Anhur, on T:3585 14:05 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:49025 14:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2806 points, T:692, killed by a gnome lord zombie 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1962 points, T:2095, killed by a magic missile 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4786 14:22 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 14:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4055 points, T:4320, killed by a death ray 14:41 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2492 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3760 15:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law), 5120 points, T:1765, killed by a giant spider 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] machinespray (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:5574 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] machinespray (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5616 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] machinespray (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5999 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:69949 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:69949 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:40681 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:70017 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:70017 15:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1826 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:685 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragon scale mail", on T:686 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:694 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:706 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:70078 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:70081 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:708 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:41276 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +3 magicbane", on T:727 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Cha), 2037136 points, T:70104, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1612387131.evil.html 15:39 <@nabru> gg VaderFLAG! 15:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1606 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42157 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42158 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) genocided arch-liches, on T:42182 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:2383 16:06 <@malor> congrats VaderFLAG! 16:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:42811 16:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:10831 16:12 amateurhour: whats wrong with airbnb 16:13 you like it, that's what 16:13 ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6982 points, T:7996, killed by an uninjured pyrolisk 16:13 if you like FP paradigms you will also like airbnb-eslint 16:13 maybe amateurhour is one of those non-FP scrubs 16:13 stenno: i have no tobacco left :c 16:13 probably even uses classes 16:14 oh wait i found tobacco 16:14 yey 16:14 a rollercoaster of emotions 16:14 lol classes 16:14 what a mug 16:14 i thought better of u a-hour 16:15 yeah what a dissapointment smh my head 16:15 https://clips.twitch.tv/DreamyCogentCurryAsianGlow 16:15 loool 16:16 gottem 16:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNIDPt4vuNo first 30s 16:17 all credit to kerio for both these gems 16:17 kerio watching disguised toast play among us 16:17 didn't you say he grew up 16:18 i said he grew up *a bit* 16:18 lol 16:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:11951 16:20 Come, sirrah, jack ho, fill some tobacco, bring a wire and some fire! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6mQltwfP8Y 16:20 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:22 aoei: ok anyway imma go get some updog and then i will sleep i think 16:22 okey 16:22 night 16:22 damn 16:22 updog? 16:23 you were supposed to ask 'whats updog' 16:23 and i'd say 'not much' 16:23 what meanst though? 16:23 thou 16:23 even 16:23 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myc7eHGg5y4 16:23 oh, I messed it up 16:23 ok 16:23 https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/138/250/e57.jpg 16:23 elenmirie_: lol we're immune to memetrolling 16:23 sorry. 16:24 aoei: getting the 2010 memes in here 16:24 fook 16:24 stenno: its so good tho 16:24 also someone give me memes 16:24 i borrowed kerio's memes 16:24 so now i owe him 16:24 a new fresh pair of memes 16:24 but i get all my memes from kerio :/ 16:24 ugh, you are indebted 16:24 aye 16:25 i'm running a serious meme-deficit 16:25 to kerio 16:25 i have to think of a good meme 16:25 I'm losing the will to live 16:25 unfortunately he already knows vipers 'yall cowards dont even smoke crack' 16:26 thank heavens for that 16:27 aoei: send him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdhW075acms 16:27 yeah he does know *you'll* cowards don't even smoke crack 16:27 he sent me that one before 16:27 also the dmitri one i just posted 16:27 all y'all? 16:27 all of y'all? 16:27 not one of y'all smokes crack? 16:27 I call shenanigans 16:28 this meme isn't very interesting tho 16:28 maybe it is for kerio 16:28 most memes re not 16:28 *are 16:28 nah this meme is crap stenno 16:28 we gotta do better than this 16:29 I quite enjoyed the ones with the cats that eat cheeseburgers but I feel in recent years the form has dropped off 16:29 oh, those were nice 16:29 is that "i can haz cheezburger" or something 16:29 aoei: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TGTgfJ-EOk 16:29 had philosophical content 16:29 not like memes these days 16:29 oh this might work 16:29 he loves radiohead 16:29 who doesn't? 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2755 16:29 Apropos of which http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/pix/lolnh.png 16:30 evil 16:30 lulz Pinkbeast 16:30 i saw also a good nethack meme on reddit 16:30 lets see if i can find it 16:30 Pinkbeast: hahahaa 16:30 awesome 16:30 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/jr2xuq/you_enter_a_leprechaun_hall/ 16:31 lel 16:31 love that one 16:31 anyway back to source diving 16:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5401 16:35 im gonna finish this dumb tutorial so i can hax teh scoarbord 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 51323 points, T:9610, poisoned by a soldier ant 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 9967 points, T:4802, killed by a wounded rock troll 16:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1574 points, T:1460, killed by a rothe 16:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14917 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3218 16:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 315 points, T:1121, killed by an acid blob 16:49 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17214 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had a steel etched helmet entrusted to her by Mars, on T:3080 16:52 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Wizard, on T:51022 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 4490 points, T:4827, killed by a watch captain 16:54 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1224 points, T:1677, killed by a gnome 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Hob Fem Cha), 59 points, T:176, killed by a sewer rat 16:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 43 points, T:192, killed by a kobold 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3210 points, T:4279, killed by a nearly deceased owlbear 16:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 75 points, T:193, killed by a fox 16:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:17932 17:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 135 points, T:509, killed by a fox 17:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:18894 17:07 hi 17:07 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 17:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2530 17:09 I don't mind it really stenno 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2644 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 1072 points, T:2531, killed by a dingo 17:14 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9098 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a hobgoblin, on T:3316 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:44188 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7000 17:24 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 17:27 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4645 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 8604 points, T:4792, killed by an uninjured Grey-elf 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 187 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:44998 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Up", on T:5850 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:45011 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3141 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3141 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 ya on an altar, on T:3143 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3488 17:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:22606 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3742 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:45357 17:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Mon Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Student of Winds, on T:24897 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3779 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Rover, on T:45639 17:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:24944 17:51 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1016 points, T:2575, killed by a rothe 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1557 points, T:2394, killed by a dwarf lord 17:55 -!- pots163 has joined #hardfought 17:56 How much damage does a boiling potion, burning book, or shattered potion do?  I've seen them as causes of death 17:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:24509 18:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 1655 points, T:2479, killed by a scroll of earth 18:04 -!- pots163 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6630 18:07 !tell pots163 Not much on their own but usually if one's exploding/burning, others are likely following, and that's enough to do in starting characters 18:07 pots163 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire. 18:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:26401 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:7122 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:47210 18:12 <@luxidream> Umbire that doesn't really answer the question 18:13 <@luxidream> the burning book does 1 damage, the boiling potion does d6 damage, the freezing potion does d4 damage 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had a wooden dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:11711 18:13 I didn't have that answer myself and poking through the wiki didn't reveal anything immediately 18:14 that's about the low range I envisioned though 18:14 !tell pots163 <rld> <@luxidream> the burning book does 1 damage, the boiling potion does d6 damage, the freezing potion does d4 damage 18:14 I'm on it, Umbire. 18:15 -!- Xjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15 [hdf-us] [un] Guts0 (Con Vam Fem Cha) genocided small mimics locally on T:1359 18:17 lol pots trying to find new ways to die 18:17 such a character 18:17 thats one of the cool things about nethack tho i guess 18:18 there's like a million ways to play the game 18:18 like minecraft but not shit 18:18 !booze 18:18 * Beholder passes nabru a glass of booze, replicated by the late Pinobot at 57 degrees Celsius. 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8030 18:20 [hdf-us] [un] Guts0 (Con Vam Fem Cha), 2435 points, T:1870, killed by an Uruk-hai, while fainted from lack of food 18:20 <@luxidream> i guess he is beginning to grow dissatisfied with the old classic of falling off your horse and dying 18:27 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a pit viper, on T:8746 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1239 18:29 Orctown. :Z 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:48094 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:48105 18:31 lmao lux 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:48117 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3285 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 432 points, T:1027, killed by a mithril crossbow bolt 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Glord (Val Dwa Fem Law), 56436 points, T:9899, killed by an uninjured minotaur, while praying 18:48 <@luxidream> !lastgame Glord 18:48 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Glord/nethack/dumplog/1612880524.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Glord/nethack/dumplog/1612645893.nh.html 18:49 <@910rd> 1:30 castle, could've lived, probably 18:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:34740 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3652 points, T:6932, killed by a bolt of fire, while sleeping 18:58 !rng hax teh scoreboard | run for sub-2h 18:58 aoei: hax teh scoreboard 18:58 okie Beholder 19:01 [hdf-us] [gh] Possum (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 56 points, T:171, killed by a dwarf 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 208 points, T:991, killed by a large mimic 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Possum (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 314 points, T:768, killed by an uninjured manes 19:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:37213 19:18 <@nabru> !pom 19:18 @nabru: The moon is waning crescent; new moon in 2 days. 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1156 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1127 points, T:1781, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted baby owlbear 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Mars, on T:10471 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:11475 19:33 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:50959 19:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:39563 19:36 [hdf-us] [dyn] Possum (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 291 points, T:955, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:40276 19:41 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:51451 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 904 points, T:3808, killed by a wounded werewolf 19:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:40457 19:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40461 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15104 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Odin, on T:1764 19:55 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:52758 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Possum (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1515 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:15144 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 Dragonbane", on T:55200 20:06 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:53624 20:12 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 577 points, T:1789, killed by a wand 20:15 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 17288 points, T:18976, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 149 points, T:222, killed by a scroll of earth 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2352 20:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:50532 20:27 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:55037 20:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:32 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 20:32 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:55478 20:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:44822 20:36 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kokushu, on T:46494 20:58 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:46659 21:03 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 21:06 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:47169 21:11 [hdf-us] [un] Guts0 (Con Vam Mal Cha), 12585 points, T:7108, killed by a blue jelly 21:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "10 potions of unholy water", on T:47378 21:19 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 21:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Con Bat Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6421 21:22 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19531 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1099 points, T:1434, killed by a slightly wounded large dog called Scruffy 21:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:48221 21:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed Father Dagon, on T:52204 21:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Mother Hydra, on T:52206 21:43 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 21:43 xNetHack updated (all servers) 21:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Con Bat Fem Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:17114 21:48 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Con Bat Fem Cha) was given Stormbringer, on T:17584 21:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 436 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:48556 21:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 260 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:48966 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6423 22:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50609 22:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50615 22:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:51666 22:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:51670 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9343 22:44 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:44 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 22:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Con Bat Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 medium jade mattock", on T:63620 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:9449 22:50 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:54011 23:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Con Bat Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:65808 23:01 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 23:01 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2478 23:06 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1110 points, T:2968, quit 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3196 23:11 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3347 23:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Con Bat Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:69133 23:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Con Bat Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:70782 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5185 points, T:3889, killed by a wounded water demon, while frozen by a potion 23:28 gnite o/ 23:32 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 23:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Con Bat Fem Cha) averted death, on T:73061 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] gturner (Val Hum Fem Law), 1355 points, T:1708, killed by an uninjured rothe 23:35 wb luxi 23:36 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:37 -!- 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Gold for the bling or does it do something (haven't played dnh)? 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 255 points, T:1044, killed by a heavily wounded bugbear 23:45 Probably to cleave through the goyle 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4865 points, T:4730, killed by a falling rock 23:45 <@riker> nah, that was a suicide in the upstairs big room :) 23:45 <@riker> oh shit that's not a valid bones spot i'm stupid, oh well 23:45 <@riker> (has 2 stairs - no branch levels are okay) 23:45 -!- ThaEwat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:46 <@riker> dnh does d20 silver damage versus demons, but adds holy damage too. i'ts an extension of the blessed bonus vs undead & demons in vanilla (d4 when using blessed items). gold increases that from 1d4 to 1d20 holy, which means i'ts generally a better choice than silver even 23:47 <@riker> the downside is the wt, the fact that silver is technically better vs demons since it's 1d20 + 1d4 23:47 <@riker> in addition, gold boosts the damage dice of blunt weapons (like mattocks) by +2 sizes :/ 23:49 since it's a heavier material, yeah 23:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Helios (Brd Vam Fem Cha), 3191 points, T:1866, killed by a dwarf 23:50 <@riker> plat does it too fwiw but gold is just all around better than plat 23:50 <@riker> i'm not super mad about that i guess, since that was a really scuffed setup anyway 23:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] lynnwashere (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1615 points, T:1308, killed by a rolling boulder trap 23:59 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought