00:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:25830 00:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:42559 00:18 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 tiny unicorn horn", on T:26250 00:25 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 00:39 lol suddenly I remember, last night I dreamed that I was playing vanilla, and using a large box as portable container, had 1500 weight units and still wasn't burdened... so it probably wasn't really vanilla after all :P 00:41 Obviously playing a Giantess patch 00:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Mother Hydra, on T:27648 00:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Father Dagon, on T:27655 01:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the Grue, on T:28670 01:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Center of All, on T:29084 01:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "upgrade kit", on T:29640 01:38 -!- telegarn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:46 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:30904 01:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Bael, on T:31050 01:53 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 01:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 01:54 <@mtf> !ping 01:54 @mtf: Pong! 01:55 <@mtf> @luxidream fixed, sorry for the delay 01:57 Oh hey mtf 01:59 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 02:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:31415 02:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31494 02:02 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Dagon, on T:31878 02:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Glasya, on T:31927 02:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] blanda (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Daemon, on T:32089 02:19 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:31 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8256 points, T:8075, zombified by a hobbit zombie, while helpless 02:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4164 02:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4697 02:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4760 02:53 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:53 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:54 LarienTelrunya: what makes a tour great? 02:55 bhaak: in this case, they're great because they're both long (=more dollars) and not far away (=don't require me to waste huge amounts of time to get to the starting station, because that time doesn't give money, sadly) 02:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:37341 02:57 LarienTelrunya: ah. how far away can your starting station be? I mean a bit of commuting can be expected but there must be a upper limit to it, doesn't it? 02:58 last year there was one starting station that's almost 200 km away from my home, and I did tours there quite often 02:59 they would even give me tours that start in Leipzig, which is almost 500 km :D 02:59 O_o 02:59 do you go there by car? 02:59 what??? why would I when there are trains 03:00 german trains aren't on always timely :-) 03:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:5160 03:00 but that can be several hours of commute. that must suck hard 03:01 why? I'd do that tour again because Leipzig is ♥♥♥ 03:02 absolutely want to go back to that one restaurant where I ate the best pizza of my life :D 03:02 also you can sleep on the train, whereas if you travel by car and don't have someone who steers the car, you'd have to be alert for the entire time and *that* would suck... 03:03 can't even imagine sitting down at the steering wheel myself for such a huge distance 03:05 Later, all. 03:05 but when do you leave home with such a tour and when do you come back? there can't be left much of the day after that 03:06 the one time I went to Leipzig, I started my travel on the evening before, and stayed overnight inside a VT 642 train in some remote station in Bavaria :P 03:06 I mean, I commutted for 8 years by train as well. get out at 07:50 on the bus, on the train at 08:0x with a one hour, no change, ride and be at the office at 09:0x. and at the evening the same back. 03:07 it can be relaxing and you time to do stuff you don't have at home (unless there are the elderly or tourists going on their tours in summer) 03:07 okay, that's one way to do it :) 03:08 but yeah, some tours do consume an entire day 03:09 in fact I have such a tour on saturday: start 5:29 AM in the morning, end 10:27 in the evening 03:09 and that's the time from first interviewing train start to last interviewing train end, but I need to leave earlier and get back home later, of course 03:10 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 03:11 it's great that you like your job because I certainly couldn't do that :-D 03:12 heh, my roommate says the same, she hates trains like the plague for some reason 03:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:13 on no, I like trains. especially those that aren't full to the brim :) but I wouldn't survive long with such irregular working times 03:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1149 points, T:1968, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 03:19 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 03:20 oh boy 03:20 dogecoin doubled its value 03:21 its still rising so i guess i am still hodl 03:23 [hdf-au] [nh343] PeachMuffin (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 559 points, T:1691, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 411 points, T:897, killed by a giant leech 03:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:38804 03:26 hmm if i don't sell now the price is going down again 03:33 that's a fallacy. the price doesn't move just because of your actions :-) 03:35 bhaak: That depends on just how much doge stenno3 has! ;) 03:36 well the price is falling again 03:36 lets see where it will stabilize now 03:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 386 points, T:942, killed by an uninjured brown mold 03:38 are you a DOGE whale stenno3? 03:39 not a whale 03:39 20k 03:39 doge 03:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 278 points, T:686, killed by a gas spore's explosion 03:44 -!- bort13 has joined #hardfought 03:48 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:49 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 03:49 -!- bort13 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:50 oh no elon musk tweeted about it again 03:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:53 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Client Quit] 04:01 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 04:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4421 04:03 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Dro Mal Neu), 11094 points, T:5135, killed by Mr. Djasinga, the shopkeeper 04:11 i guess it gets really interesting once the americans wake up 04:16 stenno has ALL THE DOGE 04:16 hey stenno4 <3 04:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 1020 points, T:799, killed by a dwarvish spear 04:20 hi 04:20 Hello stenno4, Welcome to #hardfought 04:20 -!- stenno4 is now known as stenno 04:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Dro Mal Neu), 6704 points, T:3852, killed by an iguana, while praying 04:29 stenno: i made a REST API 04:29 well a really basic prototype 04:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1817 04:31 for what? 04:31 the scoreboard? 04:32 -!- dk657_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:32 ye :> 04:32 is it on github? 04:32 yes 04:32 https://github.com/aoeixsz4/nhs-fork/commit/ef64349c7c49dec5b62cd6a2f2f172f846f1f35c 04:34 rust? 04:34 not familiar with that 04:35 -!- dk657 has joined #hardfought 04:35 yes I'm aware 04:35 it's because you're not cool like me 04:35 ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 04:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) was given Magicbane, on T:3262 04:38 i will hack on it some more today, it's only a very rough start 04:38 it spits JSON at my browser 04:38 but it panics if I try to import a null value into an i64 type instead of Option 04:38 lol types 04:39 types are awesome. 04:39 Especially if the compiler can check them for you. 04:39 pff 04:40 compiler can't know what postgres type I'm retrieving, but I can check the schema and use type annotations on the db lookup calls 04:40 and panicking if I do it wrong forces me to use the correct types 04:41 stenno: Either the types are in your head and you check them, or they're specified in the code and the compiler checks them. 04:41 ^ 04:41 arahael is a smort boi 04:41 stenno is a wild maverick who needs no types apparently 04:41 watch type fans still using 'any' anyway 04:41 aoei: I'm an Illithid, and a female one at that. 04:41 arahael: oh, my apologies 04:41 everything is a string if ur brave enough 04:41 amateurhour: rofl 04:42 how often have i seen people praising types but their code is littered with 'any' shit 04:42 sounds like typescript 04:42 stenno: I hate "any". :( 04:42 stenno: do you see such things in my code? 04:42 I think you do not 04:42 well then have fun casting a null value into an Option type or w/e 04:43 well that's a really simple code change lol 04:43 amateurhour: everything in C is an int 04:43 I'm just prototyping and I expected using i64 would panic if I tried to import a null 04:43 it panicked as expected 04:43 or a number of some sort 04:43 and I was happy 04:44 everything is void* if ur brave enough 04:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4390 04:44 rofl 04:44 void* is a number 04:44 it's JS I was thinking of for the strings one btw 04:44 stenno: yeah well C is also a trash language lol 04:44 * amateurhour gasps 04:45 it's hot garbage 04:45 very powerful hot garbage 04:45 yeah C is shit 04:45 but still hot garbage 04:45 java is shit too 04:45 I have a higher opinion of java than C but tbf I haven't really messed with Java much beyond "Hello World" 04:45 Then there's Haskell's "accursedUnutterablePerformIO" 04:46 java type system is truly something 04:46 its the extreme end 04:46 if you use that then Edward Kmett will fly over to Oz and beat you arahael 04:46 types are good 04:46 haha yeah, Java with its 04:46 amateurhour: I just think the comment above it is awesome, and no, I don't use it. :) But I love the comment. 04:46 https://hackage.haskell.org/package/bytestring-0.10.10.0/docs/src/Data.ByteString.Internal.html#accursedUnutterablePerformIO <-- Scroll up slightly to see the comment. 04:47 http://bash.org/?946461 04:47 AbstractFactoryBeanBuilderBeanFactory 04:48 what music do y'all like to code to 04:48 https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition 04:48 i find post-rock to be very nice 04:48 like fairly chill and 0 vocals stuff 04:48 aoei: I listen only to the sound in my head. 04:48 god is an astronaute, mogwai, explosions in the sky 04:49 I just put spotify on shuffle 04:49 arahael: i find it hard to imagine a life without music 04:49 amateurhour: fairplay 04:50 i also did that when coding last night, but i started with god is an astronaut and then let it shuffle 04:50 and it mostly put more post-rock on 04:50 lol 04:55 aoei: Many people say that. 04:56 for you its the other way around i guess haha 04:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hezrou, on T:11792 04:59 Such a delicious roast potato. 04:59 * arahael pops another few pills. 04:59 post rock on shuffle, wut 05:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Mal Law), 59294 points, T:12004, petrified by a wounded cockatrice 05:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:07 you know what else is a number? 05:07 0.4 05:08 its a number of type DOGEEUR 05:08 0.04* 05:11 european crypto freaks should be called dogeurs 05:11 les dogeurs 05:15 it's not a stable numbe 05:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1318 05:18 i assume it will explode once the americans wake up 05:18 which should be soonish 05:19 [hdf-us] [4k] Owen (owen) (Val Hum Fem Neu) defeated Lord Surtur, on T:15871 05:21 right now it kinda seems that it stabilized on 0.05 $ 05:22 which is nice because i bought for ~0.03 $ 05:22 but in a few hours, maybe 0.1$ can be reached 05:28 https://i.redd.it/03e5fvuw7ff61.jpg comrade musk 05:28 hey stenno I have a great idea 05:28 give me all your dogecoin 05:28 musk is the peoples billionaire 05:28 so I can sell it and not be broke this month 05:29 :^) 05:29 i can give you 100 dogecoin 05:29 yey 05:29 give wallet 05:29 how much is that worth, €3 ? XD 05:29 yes 05:29 nice 05:29 but it will be 10 euro later 05:29 * aoei makes a dogecoin wallet 05:30 actually its 4 euro 05:30 oo 05:30 its gone up :3 05:30 https://www.binance.com/en/trade/DOGE_EUR 05:32 DEoa5arTDw2Ujg5MQAjwWE1pQbEGHh6zuR 05:32 i just transferred all my doge to another wallet 05:32 so i can give you 86 doge instead, sorry 05:33 awe 05:33 ok 05:33 still free money :3 05:33 thankies 05:34 oh wait never mind i think 05:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2129 points, T:2150, killed by a gas cloud, while praying 05:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) was given Apotheosis Veil, on T:10321 05:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:6416 05:37 hmm did that work 05:37 idk it might take some time to show up 05:40 ok done 05:40 nice danke sehr 05:41 in two years, you will have made a billion on the boerse and write a book about it how it all started with a 100 dogecoin donation 05:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Dro Mal Neu), 38720 points, T:11050, killed by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 05:43 yes i will credit you in big letters 05:43 thanks 05:43 and put a picture of your face with a halo 05:43 on the first page 05:43 that seems appropriate 05:43 ofc 05:43 also you could give me a million or tow 05:43 two 05:43 yeah that seems fair 05:43 i will have lots of those 05:43 and you got me started 05:43 yep 05:45 aoei: Could you also be sure to give me an Honorable Mention for not rediculing this? ;) 05:46 arahael: i think you just did ridicule this 05:47 xD 05:47 ;) 05:47 That said, cryptocoin does seem to be booming. It seems to boom whenever the economy seems to decline. 05:49 i think its more in teh wake of the gamestop meme 05:50 BTC also jumped up in price recently 05:50 but then fell a bit back from $20k 05:50 im not sure what it's at now 05:50 for a while it was fairly stable at around $10k 05:58 my transaction to you still says 'processing' 05:59 so i guess it will take some more time 05:59 have you never bought drugs on the darknet stenno 05:59 crypto transfers take ages 06:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Bat Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3276 06:03 completed now 06:04 yey 06:05 someone just bought 1 million doge 06:05 lol 06:07 i still assume the course will double over the next hours 06:08 lets see how that will work out lol 06:33 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 06:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 06:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8271 06:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:8780 06:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4769 06:55 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 1271 points, T:1017, killed by a falling rock 07:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf king, on T:10612 07:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class @), on T:544 07:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 112 points, T:544, killed by a scroll of genocide 07:07 !lastgame lacca 07:07 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/nethack/dumplog/1612440076.nh.html 07:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:48287 07:10 stenno: oo i got some sticky hash 07:11 [hdf-us] [4k] Owen (owen) (Val Hum Fem Neu) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:18582 07:11 nice 07:11 can't remember when i last smoked something 07:11 like 4-5 months ago 07:12 it was pretty cheap so i was expecting garbage tbh 07:12 but its nice and sticky, smells great 07:12 seems like decent shit 07:12 not smoked any yet tho 07:12 its a bit early lol 07:13 soft and sticky stuff, not that rock solid crap you have to heat to work with lol 07:13 i don't trust hash anymore and i don't really trust weed anymore either 07:15 probably gonna wait until its legalized here which is probably never 07:16 laem 07:23 dunno 07:25 i think they should legalise 07:25 well yeah who doesn't 07:25 but the powers that be disagree apparently 07:25 well that's what's lame 07:25 i thought your "dunno" was at that 07:25 it pops up like once or twice each year in federal discussion 07:26 oh i thought you said it was lame that i wanted to wait 07:26 anyway fuck it i will go for a walk and smoke some of the good shit 07:26 nah i just meant the situation 07:26 i can see how that was unclear lol 07:27 [hdf-us] [4k] Owen (owen) (Val Hum Fem Neu) defeated Medusa, on T:19036 07:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:14373 07:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2889 07:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Campos (Kni Hum Mal Law), 218112 points, T:21172, killed by a winged gargoyle 07:35 US are paperhanding doge 07:35 the fucking whimps 07:35 wimp 07:35 it's all in the timing of when you step out of the ponzi scheme... 07:36 aosdict: lol 07:38 bitcoin is more a ponzi scheme than dogecoin 07:38 bbl 07:39 you're still buying into it because you anticipate it going up in value because others will buy in, and then you can cash out at an appropriate time and stick them with the losses 07:39 while it's not an organized, illegal ponzi scheme, it acts much the same way 07:40 this implies that i would only sell when i don't expect the course to rise higher at any point in the future 07:40 might aswell hodl forever then 07:42 doesn't have to be the entire future, a lot of speculation is attempting to time a local peak, sell it, then buy when it goes back down 07:45 well yeah that is kinda how it works, thats true 07:45 but i don't see how that is a ponzi scheme 07:45 it has no ceiling like bitcoin 07:47 the ceiling isn't in the number of dogecoins but in the number of willing dogecoin investors 07:47 or more directly, the amount of capital people are willing to invest in dogecoin 07:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3837 07:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hlf Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:30320 07:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (rust monsters), on T:17119 07:57 !tell K2 critical crash bugfix for slex waiting at current master branch :) doesn't break saves 07:57 I'm on it, LarienTelrunya. 07:58 no 07:58 K2: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-02-04 07:57 EST: critical crash bugfix for slex waiting at current master branch :) doesn't break saves 07:58 :/ 07:58 2.7.0 or nothing... NOTHING 07:58 lmao 07:58 :P 07:58 yeah I'm working on 2.70, but I fear it'll take a bit more time 07:58 * aoei goes for walk 07:58 cyas 07:58 bai 08:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:72435 08:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5617 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 348 points, T:1095, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:5947 08:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4432 points, T:3711, killed by an uninjured dwarf mummy 08:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 441 points, T:668, killed by an uninjured small mimic 08:41 turns out that 0.05 $ are 0.0420 euro 08:41 two psychologial numbers 08:41 will be difficult to consistently go above that lol 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7322 08:51 -!- callforjudgement has joined #hardfought 08:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v callforjudgement] by ChanServ 08:54 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:55 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 08:55 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Client Quit] 08:58 here we go, 0.043 08:59 hmm, so I can pick up a nickel from my change jar (0.05 usd) and imagine it's a dogecoin? 08:59 even worth more than a dogecoin 08:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:11257 09:01 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 09:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:11633 09:03 yeah 09:07 -!- stenno has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:07 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pri Hlf Mal Neu), 258 points, T:678, killed by a fox 09:11 aosdict: the hope is that you will have to pick another nickel out of your jar tonight 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9822 09:12 how do the doggos even spend the coins anyway 09:12 technicalities 09:13 <{Demo}> hats maybe 09:13 <{Demo}> bobble hats 09:13 probably 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10487 09:19 seems legit 09:19 stenno: then I will just pick up a dime and imagine it's a dogecoin :P 09:20 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bort (otc) (Val Hum Fem Law), 16 points, T:193, killed by the wrath of Tyr 09:20 <{Demo}> i don't think that's what picking up a dime means 09:20 is a dime two nickels? 09:20 a dime is a bag of weed i thought 09:20 or is that just a dime bag 09:20 how does it work 09:20 i know dimebag darrel 09:21 speaking of which imma smoke some of this hash 09:21 -!- callforjudgement has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2419 points, T:2212, killed by a wolf 09:22 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:23 stenno: dime is 0.1 usd 09:24 ok 09:24 <{Demo}> also smallest coin for some reason 09:24 then quarter (0.25), half dollar (0.5) and dollar (1.0) 09:24 <{Demo}> best coin is penny 09:24 we said 'Groschen' to that hen we still had the Mark 09:24 <{Demo}> cause pennies are insane 09:24 a long time ago there were fifteen-cent pieces 09:24 lol 09:24 <{Demo}> i want a gun that shoots pennies 09:24 <{Demo}> i feel like they'd hurt 09:24 <{Demo}> and are really cheap 09:25 {Demo}: the united states actually has never had an official 'penny' coin 09:25 it's been cents since the beginning 09:25 <{Demo}> well, a one cent coin 09:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] repeat (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 228 points, T:123, killed by a crossbow bolt, while sleeping 09:25 the insanest shit was the pound thing before 1970 or so 09:25 yes lol 09:25 12 pennies to a shilling, 20 shillings to a pound, with all sorts of added units for non-round quantities, right? 09:26 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%A3sd#/media/File:British_predecimal_currency.svg 09:26 <{Demo}> the only problem with using pennies to do awesome things is you can't do anything too high profile and destructive to them or the secret service will get you 09:26 that shit almost cost us 2 valuable characters in ASCII 09:26 lol bhaak 09:27 stenno: oh right they had five different units *smaller* than a penny 09:27 <{Demo}> wtf 09:27 in earlier versions there where characters for the numbers 10 and 11 in it 09:27 *of the draft 09:27 one penny are 4 'farthings' 09:27 bhaak: A and B? 09:27 1 shillings are 3 groats 09:28 shall i open my dogecoin wallet and see if my amazing wow 86 so much dogecoin is in there 09:28 <{Demo}> ur a groat 09:28 this system really gets my groat 09:28 one half crown are 2 shilling and one sixpence 09:28 (2 sixpence are one shilling) 09:29 one groat are one threepence and a penny 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7244 09:29 what fucked up units is that 09:29 they could have just said fourpence 09:29 lmao 09:29 where did groat come from 09:29 fuck knows 09:29 <{Demo}> i think they made the money too complicated for commoners to use 09:30 {Demo}: that must've been it 09:30 http://index-of.es/Varios-2/ASCII%20The%20Evolution%20of%20Character%20Codes.pdf 09:30 so one groat are 16 farthings 09:30 <{Demo}> honestly the whole money system sounds like the premise of a monty python skit 09:31 "The British wanted a four-bit decimal subset to include digits 0 through 9 plus 10 and 11, period (.), slash (/), minus (−) and plus (+)." 09:32 aosdict: from 'grosso', 'groschen', 'groszy' 09:32 as a design principle of ASCII was to keep the numbers together. 10 and 11 would have been put at where : and ; is now 09:32 one groat is 48 third-farthings 09:32 I also didn't realize that ASCII is a design by committee that isn't all bad 09:32 who decided "we have a half farthing and a quarter farthing, better also have a third farthing" 09:32 The gros was sub-divided in half gros and quarter gros. The original gros created by St Louis weighed about 4.52 g of nearly pure silver, and was valued at one sou, that is 12 deniers or 1/20 of a livre tournois. 09:33 praise the decimal system 09:33 oh yes, french currency was also very confusing 09:34 I needed to look it up when reading les miserables 09:34 -!- bort13 has joined #hardfought 09:35 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 09:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:73296 09:37 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:38 wat 09:38 i shoudl be off irc when i do vpn stuff, sorry 09:38 no doge in my wallet 09:38 this is slower than BTC lol 09:38 https://dogechain.info/address/DEoa5arTDw2Ujg5MQAjwWE1pQbEGHh6zuR 09:39 i mean that's my address, maybe the local wallet app is shit 09:39 anyway yay doge so much wow 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class J, on T:46457 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:8315 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "very historic very holy locked extinguished greased rustproof thoroughly +5 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of warning named nobody sneaks up on the hothraxxa", on T:46460 09:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16043 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:1485 09:54 -!- telegarn has joined #hardfought 09:54 -!- rossyrg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 09:54 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bort (otc) (Val Hum Fem Law), 2747 points, T:2872, killed by a soldier ant 09:54 -!- rossyrg has joined #hardfought 09:56 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:02 -!- bort13 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2027 points, T:2315, poisoned by a snake 10:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:18392 10:16 [hdf-us] [un] Delraven (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 104638 points, T:32541, dissolved in molten lava 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 470 points, T:1234, killed by an uninjured rothe 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:11332 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:11342 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 607 points, T:1112, killed by brainlessness 10:28 -!- callforjudgement has joined #hardfought 10:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v callforjudgement] by ChanServ 10:36 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 10:39 -!- callforjudgement has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:45 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has joined #hardfought 10:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hlf Fem Cha) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:45288 10:48 lulz 10:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:21490 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) had a leather slippery cloak entrusted to her by Camaxtli, on T:12971 10:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 Gray Dragon Scale Mail", on T:45333 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2092 points, T:2218, slipped while mounting a saddled horse 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:3 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 20 points, T:3, killed by a bolt of cold 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:46857 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:46981 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2076 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13673 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:57656 11:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:24046 11:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1089 11:12 aosdict: got a 'program in disorder' in xnh 11:12 aosdict: You read the scroll. The scroll erupts in a tower of flame! Your shield smoulders! Your iron magic lamp catches on fire! rn2(0) attempted, returning 0 Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 11:14 -!- oh6 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:14 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:14202 11:18 <@riker> well that would really suck nabru 11:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:25069 11:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] amateurhour (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 5677 points, T:1781, shot himself with a death ray 11:24 !lastgame amateurhour 11:24 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1589035969.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/evilhack/dumplog/1610648117.evil.html 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3190 11:27 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2906 points, T:3272, killed by a wounded rothe 11:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1534 points, T:2614, killed by a wand 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:47299 11:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1040 points, T:2557, killed by a wounded rabid rat 11:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Shogun, on T:58402 11:34 amateurhour: what happened D: 11:35 amateurhour: lux got sub-2 arc 11:35 was looking for you lol 11:35 self irradiation in protest of the lack of bobble hats for doggos in dungeons full of zambos 11:35 ahh 11:35 im rusting :o 11:36 reach enchant armour while confused 11:36 read* 11:36 what time arc did they get? better than 1h45? 11:36 idk check scoreboard 11:36 amateurhour didn't you start a slex run that killed Ruggo yesterday? what happened to that, hopefully you didn't die? 11:36 i haven't linked the acct yet so it'll show up as ArcGDQ 11:37 it's still alive Amy I just haven't played more yet 11:37 <@luxidream> 1:43 11:37 ah 11:37 ahaha arc confirmed better than knight 11:37 haha 11:37 <{Demo}> why even run arc? 11:37 because amateurhour claimed knight was worse 11:37 <@luxidream> so my sum of best all roles goes down 11:38 and also because lux didn't have sub-2h arc yet 11:38 <@luxidream> we still have the true worst role of all time left 11:38 <@luxidream> healer 11:38 knight is 100% trash tho 11:38 what's your healer time 11:38 pb 11:38 <@luxidream> uhhh 11:39 <@luxidream> 2:33 11:39 <@luxidream> during tnnt so I guess it doesn't count 11:39 omg what shit is that 11:39 <@luxidream> I also need to redo tourist 11:39 i know u can do better 11:39 hurry up 11:39 <@luxidream> because that was also during tnnt 11:40 sub-2h healer nao 11:40 by which i mean now, but also on nao 11:40 <@luxidream> healer somehow manages to be garbage with gauntlets of power 11:40 <@luxidream> it's quite impressive really 11:40 healer is just trash in purest form 11:40 i've never won with one post-343 11:40 actually there are a few roles i've not done post-343 11:40 i only have the full set on 343 11:41 <@luxidream> wait didn't maud speedrun every role 11:41 <@luxidream> what was his healer turncount 11:41 good question 11:41 also i intend to follow in maud's footsteps dont you worry 11:42 <@luxidream> you haven't even beat bill yet 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2106 11:42 wow 11:42 5342 healer 11:42 <@luxidream> hax 11:42 also shut up, BilldaCat is garbage and his bones records mean nothing 11:42 <@luxidream> ok what was knight 11:43 nht 3979 bonesless is the one to beat 11:43 only one ascension, not speedrun at all 11:43 26k 11:44 <@luxidream> fastest knight ever appears to be 8.5k by nht 11:44 <@luxidream> maybe knight is actually the worst role after all 11:44 maybe 11:44 i mean healer is cool once you get a polykit 11:44 because the only spell you need really is helaing 11:44 and you start with it :P 11:45 <@luxidream> that would solve the damage problem 11:45 nabru: thanks for the report, I think someone else had this problem and a fix has been suggested 11:46 woahh you can #loot pets in xnh now 11:46 epic 11:46 i was about to say couldn't you always do that 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1453 points, T:3369, killed by an uninjured rothe, while fainted from lack of food 11:46 but that's only for saddles inv anilla 11:46 <@luxidream> You carefully open the pet... 11:46 lmao 11:46 you need to be wielding scalpel there 11:46 better run healer 11:47 * aosdict slides one zorkmid to amateurhour then writes it off as a marketing expense 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:15611 11:48 can you easily shoplift by looting items off the pet inside a shop :P 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 250 points, T:384, killed by an uninjured large mimic 11:48 idk Amy, try it for science 11:49 <{Demo}> its blocked now 11:49 <@luxidream> did you kill brevis again? 11:50 rip 11:50 <{Demo}> no, looting pets is 11:50 <{Demo}> in dnh 11:50 <{Demo}> which is what amy is talking about 11:50 <@luxidream> oh ok 11:52 LarienTelrunya: taking an item from a pet calls addtobill() so if you take it from them inside a shop you get put on the hook for it 11:53 it seems like if you can get the pet standing on the door carrying a shop owned item, with you outside, then you can take it for free. but this is basically the same as normal theft? 11:53 luxidream: besides ive been focusing on RT lately and have a match to win on sunday :V 11:53 luxidream: and might i remind you i currently hold the 3.7.0 tc wr 11:54 altho its not even sub-5k so that sucks 11:54 need to fix 11:54 <@riker> gl aoei 11:54 lol thanks riker 11:55 aosdict: ah, so it can't be exploited the way it could in earlier dnethack versions 11:56 <@luxidream> oh yeah 11:56 <@luxidream> I need to make reddit post 11:56 <@luxidream> now that stenno is definitely on board 11:57 <@luxidream> also I should probably do some tc runs too 11:59 <@luxidream> so does the travel command actually move diagonally or not 12:00 <@luxidream> or do I have to walk to the stairs the hard way to save turns 12:00 i don't know 12:00 i tend not to use travel in tc runs 12:00 will be interesting if i have to beat you at tc now lol 12:00 it supposedly uses shortest path 12:00 <@luxidream> i was really sloppy 12:01 <@luxidream> during tnnt 12:01 go ascend sub-5k lux 12:01 but if you mess up and there's a trap blocking the route it'll waste a lot of turns 12:01 so i have something to beat :V 12:01 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 12:01 or well, you just have to beat 5838 on 3.7 i gues 12:01 oh and do it with healer 12:01 kek 12:01 <@luxidream> I'll think about it, those runs always need a decent amount of luck to do the best 12:01 <@luxidream> which is annoying 12:01 yes it is 12:01 Check my feet — trying on a ring of polymorph that I started with, as a Wizard, is unlikely to help me throuhg the early game. Correct? 12:02 you need polymorph control first Deathsushi 12:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:28901 12:02 once you have that you can do fun shit 12:02 Okay, that's what I thought 12:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28902 12:02 <@luxidream> can't overcome luck by hitting random buttons 12:02 just the polyring by itself is bad 12:02 Right. Until then, I'm playing "rock thrower, elebereth engraver, the game" 12:02 <@luxidream> sometimes I would put on the polyring by itself and hope to luck into something that can kill shks 12:02 <@luxidream> it rarely ever works 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 787 points, T:1466, killed by a wounded gnome 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:40860 12:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:29167 12:08 Deathsushi: at some point you will get to upgrade to Master Mind Flayer: The Game 12:09 it's a way better game 12:09 trust me 12:09 Man, that game sounds way more fun 12:09 Minotaur: The Game is also pretty great imo 12:09 esp now you can cast again 12:09 <{Demo}> becareful about whose brains you eat 12:09 they made it great again :D 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 275 points, T:2534, killed by a boulder 12:09 Ah, I just finish a game of boulder trap, the "You should have searched more, the game" 12:09 if you choose mino game be careful about body armour and cloak 12:10 you'll rip them 12:10 mino is too big 12:10 oof 12:10 rip 12:10 Part of the challenge I find with the early game for Wizard is I might get some cool rings, but I don't want to wear tham because I risk stareving 12:11 This ring of regen I just started with is great — but spells an early death 12:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:29357 12:17 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 127 points, T:589, killed by an uninjured kobold zombie 12:19 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:41764 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:41765 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 427 points, T:975, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:26 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bort (otc) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6402 points, T:8333, killed by a balrog 12:30 [hdf-us] [slex] MaxLunar (Ass Esp Fem Neu), 2327 points, T:1774, quit 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 259 points, T:661, killed by a wounded gnome lady 12:31 i should practice 370 valk 12:31 for sunday 12:35 are there any penalties for sacrificing a housecat or dog? 12:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] repeat (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 764 points, T:1627, killed by a wounded gnome 12:35 I know eating them is bad 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:42115 12:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:42137 12:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:31964 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 2730158 points, T:42167, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bartlem/nethack/dumplog/1612197226.nh.html 12:45 there aren't I don't think Deathsushi, unless of course they were your former pet 12:45 Great 12:45 Thank you 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1112 points, T:4762, killed by a slightly wounded hallucinogen-distorted Woodland-elf 12:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:55163 12:55 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3977 12:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Sorceress, on T:33215 13:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 70997 points, T:19642, killed by a wounded Olog-hai 13:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:33651 13:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:4283 13:05 -!- TheWolf has joined #hardfought 13:06 <@luxidream> !who 13:06 @luxidream: [hdf-us] Grouchy [nh370] post163 [nh370] nightjerle [nh370] Deathsushi [nh370] malor6 [dnh] MaxLunar [slex] tinklebear [nh13d] dbanethacker [evil] hothraxxa [evil] | [hdf-eu] lacca [nh370] repeat [nh370] | [hdf-au] Merlek [nh370] 13:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4769 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 338 points, T:1513, killed by an uninjured bat 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:48324 13:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] repeat (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 338 points, T:1981, killed by an uninjured manes, while fainted from lack of food 13:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:5366 13:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:35135 13:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:73665 13:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Necromancer, on T:35620 13:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:74506 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:6497 13:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:74912 13:27 -!- TheWolf has left #hardfought 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2171 13:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:6526 13:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Garland, on T:75246 13:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:75268 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:5127 13:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hlf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:57547 13:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hlf Fem Cha), 654628 points, T:57547, petrified by Poseidon's curse 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) had a steel dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Camaxtli, on T:19373 13:37 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 13:37 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2416 points, T:3092, killed by an uninjured hill orc called Uothaiul of Aiunogun, while unconscious from rotten food 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10985 points, T:8163, killed by a leocrotta 13:43 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed shatterproof +2 Apotheosis Veil", on T:75813 13:45 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7414 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:6975 13:48 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nightjerle's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:7672 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1061 13:52 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:53 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 13:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 2880 points, T:1742, fell into a pit 13:55 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 284 points, T:908, killed by a wand 13:58 [hdf-us] [slex] Leeroy (Sma Alb Mal Law), 8300 points, T:4, quit 13:58 i fel aslep 13:59 good thing you're not in a speedrun race like last time 14:00 lol 14:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:00 i wont take my laptop to bed for any races dw 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 darts on an altar, on T:3951 14:01 actually wait, didn't you sleep into the start of the last race? 14:01 significantly lower risk of passing out sitting upright 14:01 aosdict: no sleeping as far as i can recall 14:02 you said you wanted to 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:48897 14:02 <@luxidream> well you showed up too late to set up properly last time :p 14:02 oh right 14:02 i did have a nap right before 14:02 lol 14:03 i was hungover 14:03 I thought people liked playing nethack drunk, not hung over 14:03 which i wont be this time beause this time we didn't agree to the race the night before whiel i was already drunk 14:03 aosdict: drunkhack can be fun 14:03 hungoverhack not so much 14:03 -!- eLtMosen-damnISP has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:04 personally i find stimmedhack to be optimal 14:04 but it's unfair for a race if the other person isn't stimmed so caffeine only for sunday 14:05 <{Demo}> hmm i might miss the races cause superbowl 14:05 <@luxidream> is the superbowl on at 12 pm est? 14:06 <{Demo}> oh is it being run early? 14:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:9274 14:06 demo for me and stenno it starts 6pm 14:06 cuz we are germans 14:06 or well 14:06 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:06 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 14:06 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 14:06 im not really german 14:06 i just live here 14:06 <{Demo}> originally i thought the plan was to run it stupidly late at night ofr them 14:06 but id rather be german than british :| 14:07 <@luxidream> the real superbowl seems to be later in the day 14:07 <{Demo}> yeah thought they were gonna be running it at like 1 am their time 14:07 <@luxidream> 6:30 pm et 14:07 what do you mean real superbowl 14:07 <{Demo}> or wait even later lol 14:07 <{Demo}> idk 14:07 <@luxidream> but my stream will start at 12 pm est 14:08 gonna be a boring stream if the runners wait 5 and a half hours to start 14:08 <@luxidream> race starts when I post the seeds in irc 14:09 LOL then other people can run the seed too xD 14:09 or seeds even 14:09 are you looking up the seed before? 14:09 10 seeds is the idea right 14:09 no earlywows please 14:09 stenno2: he's gonna check as far as mt iirc 14:09 ok 14:09 so no orctown 14:09 <@luxidream> yes, spectators are welcome to play along 🙂 14:09 lol 14:10 <@luxidream> I will check for orctown and good starting str/con 14:10 thats coo 14:10 <@luxidream> I will know nothing else 14:10 l 14:11 is the fixed seed thing a hdf patch or will it actually be pulled into vanilla:? 14:11 if you post all the seeds at once someone on IRC could check them out of order and give us info 14:12 actully i can look that up 14:12 <@luxidream> ok, then I will pm both of you the seeds 14:12 wait, hdf is running the fixed seed binary? 14:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:12 not yet afaik but thats the idea 14:13 <@luxidream> it depends on if K2 will allow it and if infinigon has finished working on it yet 14:13 that would be really cool imo 14:13 <@luxidream> I don't remember hearing an explicit yes to both of those 14:14 has k2 even agreed to host setseed for the race 14:14 otherwise how are we gonna stream it lol 14:14 wait infinigon also has a server right 14:14 otherwise we wouldn't use setseed 14:14 oh hm 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 5279 points, T:4672, killed by a dwarf lady 14:14 in europe? 14:14 <@luxidream> how laggy is infinigon's server for you guys 14:14 infinigon is uk stenno2 14:14 i will only play on a europe server 14:14 ok 14:14 not sure about the server but i assume so 14:14 so should be fine 14:15 ill check that lux 14:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:9588 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 273 points, T:779, burned by molten lava 14:17 <@luxidream> for some reason I'm not able to ping 14:17 <@luxidream> ah, it seems to be very laggy for me 14:18 <@luxidream> 120 ms 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2051 points, T:3732, killed by a dwarf lady 14:18 yeah thats transatlantic lag 14:18 i have 120ms to NAO 14:19 what's infinigon's server again? 14:19 <@luxidream> ping demigod.bar 14:20 30ms 14:20 hdf-eu is in uk too, right? (the irony) 14:20 literally unplayable, host server in your house 14:20 I think it's in ireland isn't it? 14:20 good ping 14:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "+3 frost brand", on T:36621 14:21 stenno2: kek 14:21 oh, ireland 14:21 lets not open this can of worms 14:21 hrmm, server says London 14:21 on the server info page 14:22 must be eu-west-2 instead of eu-west-1 14:22 amateurhour: K2 tried hosting the server in his house for a while. worked great for him but not for everyone else when there were storms 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 531 points, T:850, killed by an uninjured bat 14:22 I remember that, it was moved to ec2 in time for tnnt a year and a bit ago iirc 14:22 <@luxidream> we can only dream of 0 ping 14:23 0 ping is running nethack in your own terminal 14:23 aosdict: i remember that 14:23 <@luxidream> but that's not real because I could have modified the game 😐 14:23 we had the hetzner stuff, and i think NEU was running on hetzner too, and even then we had 1ms 14:23 ADE was hetzner 14:23 you can always bribe K2 to modify the game too 14:23 can't trust anything 14:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "wand of polymorph", on T:36625 14:24 * stenno2 reflections on trusting trust 14:24 @luxidream cryptographically signed nethack when 14:24 <@luxidream> I need to bribe K2 to get setseed on hdf first 14:24 <@luxidream> for when I inevitably have to participate in a race 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) had an etched staff entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:6705 14:24 he's even active in the evilhack channel and just ignoring it now 14:24 i'm at work 14:25 i keep getting pulled away 14:25 lol i was not serious 14:25 that's a poor excuse 14:25 sorry 14:25 this is your boss, get back to work 14:25 you don't need money when u have friends 14:25 there are more important things than work 14:25 and ur friends need u 14:25 K2: the nethack superbowl is more important 14:25 invest in dogecoin and you don't have to work anymore 14:25 amateurhour: my friend even gave me dogecoin :v 14:25 the expected further doubling of the course didn't happen 14:25 stenno2: lmao no shit 14:26 because of US people having paperhands 14:26 needs more elon musk tweets 14:26 hahahaha 14:26 i don't think this will do much anymore 14:26 there are sporadic memes about a concentrated buy at 9pm (some us time) 14:26 which is like 3am my time 14:26 so maybe maybe something happens tonight but i cba'd 14:26 stenno2, i just like the stock 14:26 caution, stenno2 is not a financial advisor 14:27 <{Demo}> i poured peppermint tea in my bang energy and it tastes weird 14:27 bhaak: how can you say that, i read a few memes on /r/dogecoin, i am basically an expert 14:27 K2: ikr 14:27 diamond hands baby 14:27 if the feds come down on you, just say "I just like the stock" and you get out of jail free 14:27 hodl to the moon 14:27 who all jumped on the $BANG bandwagon? 14:28 even though the journey to the moon will most likely take much longer than an actual journey on the moon 14:28 there's no common definition of 'moon' for the price of [whatever] so you're not going to have one moment when you declare it mission accomplished 14:28 K2: {Demo} , apparently 14:29 i did too 14:29 what's $BANG 14:29 9 shares GME 14:29 blackberry, amc, nokia, gamestop 14:29 Bang Overseas Limited 14:29 clothing company in india 14:29 ah, like FAANG but memes 14:29 oh, that other bang 14:29 GME dropped a lot today, still dropping 14:30 everyone is blaming robinhood 14:30 at some point deepfuckingvalue is not going to be a millionaire anymore 14:30 which is kinda insane if you think about it 14:31 when DFV sells, it will all be over anyway, right now its slowly dying 14:31 and he has to sell at some point, it would be insane otherwise if you think about it 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7433 14:31 I can tell you that the financial media only knows him as "roaring kitty" (or his real name) because they won't print his reddit name 14:33 stenno2: I thought he already did sell. what he's posting is his other stash 14:33 he's not all-in 14:34 oh, ok 14:35 if doge stabilizes on 0.05$ that would be amazing already 14:35 lets see what happens tonight 14:35 aosdict: there were memes regarding that on reddit 14:36 I own about $30k of berkshire hathaway 14:36 is this considered meme stock 14:36 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 14:36 stenno2: there's a row in his posting with a cash position 14:36 he sold some, but held on to most of it still 14:36 stenno2: https://i.redd.it/93vf02k2wbf61.png he already got 13 million 14:37 if it's "most" depends on the price of GME :-) 14:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:77085 14:37 https://www.reddit.com/user/deepfuckingvalue/overview 14:38 you can see it in his post from the 7 days ago compared to 10 days ago 14:38 given that he invested like 30k or so... 14:38 ok folks getting ready for practice run 14:38 its more than enough? 14:38 he sold 300 shares of the $12 options 14:38 u can tune in on hdf-eu's text twitch 14:38 greed is a crazy bitch 14:39 but having a cushion of 13 million helps to YOLO quite a bit 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:8633 14:39 although I guess that's still pre-tax 14:39 do you even have to pay taxes on that in the US 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1443 14:39 if you buy and sell so that you hold less than a year then it's taxed as if it was your normal personal income 14:39 luxidream: did you see that there is twitch/IRC bridge? 14:39 which can be high 14:40 if you hold more than a year you pay capital gains tax which is much lower 14:40 I know that exists 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4450 14:40 oh i see 14:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:36921 14:40 bhaak: yeah assuming this doesn't count as long-term capital gains, tax takes a 37% cut of that 14:40 I'm not sure if there is a reason to use it, unless I want an irc bot in my chat 14:40 or well of most of it 14:41 imagine having a max of 37% income tax 14:41 lol 14:41 the German is jealous 14:41 actually its 45% max in germany 14:41 they often complain that california taxes are high here 14:41 i thought it was more 14:42 usa max income tax used to be over 70% 14:42 in finland last time I checked it's around ~65% 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a wounded jaguar), on T:11802 14:43 we have lower taxes but our big mac costs $7 14:44 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:11194 14:44 finland has highest marginal tax rate apparently 14:44 66.75% 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1798 14:44 Adeon: do you have VAT too? 14:44 yes 14:44 24% 14:44 how high is VAT? its like 16%-19% here 14:44 now that it's tax filing season I get to once again hate on how the tax filing companies have made it so difficult to file without buying their software 14:45 when i had a job in germany i paid about 33% of my salary in tax/health insurance/etc. 14:45 I think my tax rate in US is around ~30% but I haven't calculated exactly 14:45 i am currently paying slightly less than 50% in overall taxes 14:45 like 45% 14:46 but yeah thats the whole package of social securities and stuff 14:46 and I probably should do my taxes soon 14:46 which unlike in civilized countries are very complicated 14:46 oof 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 215 points, T:792, poisoned by a little dart 14:46 german tax system is crazy complicated too 14:46 I have to do it on a website this year 14:47 last year was first year I paid an entity to handle them 14:47 in the uk it was super simple 14:47 aoei: not if you're fully employed 14:47 they stopped developing the desktop app 14:47 before that I did them myself 14:47 stenno2: I was fully employed 14:47 but takes so long 14:47 the forms are crazy complicated 14:47 aoei: i just have to enter a single number in a specific field 14:47 wat 14:48 most years i just didn't do it because it's super complicated and you don't get much back if you've been working all year and taxed correctly 14:48 the first year I worked only 3 months of the year and got all my taxes back 14:48 stenno2: do you not have to do all this Elster shit? 14:48 Adeon: sure if you can afford it, they will also make sure that everything is correct and you don't do accidental tax fraud 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 84 points, T:303, killed by an uninjured fox 14:49 if I want to file online like a normal 21st century human I have to buy some company's software and entrust it with all my personal and financial information. if I don't want to do that, I better go buy a printer and file everything on paper 14:49 aoei: i used elster when i was self-employed, but haven't touched it since 14:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 256 points, T:366, killed by a nearly deceased jackal 14:49 aosdict: is there not a state software where you can do it? 14:49 the tax prep companies lobbied to not let IRS to make their own software 14:49 oh wait that would probably be communism 14:49 right.. 14:50 stenno2: my state *does* provide free tax filing software, but there's, of all things, an income cap 14:50 I just found a Grayswandir as I explored the dungeon as Wizard 14:50 And I don't yet have Magicbane 14:50 Is it worth wielding this over a dagger right now? 14:50 yes, but maybe you can try to get a silver saber gifted to at least get it to basic 14:50 right now finnish taxes are almost effortless 14:50 I have to report my US income 14:50 but I don't pay anything 14:50 but I have to report the income 14:51 it's on a website 14:51 I put the number in there 14:51 Adeon: would be the same in germany i'm pretty sure 14:51 I don't need to attach anything either 14:51 stenno: Like, basically build up the skill? 14:51 Deathsushi: just to get it unrestricted 14:51 Adeon: now if you were an american filing taxes in finland, gods help you 14:51 lol americans have to pay double tax 14:51 and then they get one of the taxes back 14:51 or something 14:52 * stenno2 displays his financial prowess 14:52 stenno2: Oh I see, it has to be gifted before I can open up the ability to advance the skill? 14:52 aosdict: I had a lot of funds in finnish investment companies and I sold them all to avoid having to deal with tax complications of being taxed like any american but with funds overseas 14:52 Deathsushi: correct 14:52 stenno2: How do I cause taht? 14:52 those funds are considered PFICs 14:52 if you earned 100% of your income abroad, you don't actually owe any, yeah, but you better file it and deduct it all off 14:52 Deathsushi: just sacrifice a lot until you get werebane 14:52 and PFICs are horrible documentation headache 14:53 same reason I don't keep a lot of money in my foreign bank accounts 14:53 for the fear that they become PFICs and now I have to deal with the paperwork 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:11452 14:53 Blarg 14:53 Go team ant 14:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed A'gone, on T:78324 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 7712 points, T:12730, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 14:54 aw 14:54 man i want to live in finland 14:54 pay all the taxes 14:54 This game is taunting 14:54 me 14:54 <{Demo}> in finland they shoot russian i think 14:54 it's cold and boring and made of ice 14:55 <{Demo}> finland's one purpose is to keep the russians out of sweden 14:55 when i was in helsinki, it was basically like northern germany, so i felt at home there 14:56 bad weather, fucking seagulls everywhere 14:56 good bread 14:56 bleh 14:56 splatted a game with mines marker 14:56 should have prayed i think 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3042 14:57 !lastgame stellaschnella 14:57 luxidream: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/StellaSchnella/nethack/dumplog/1611604496.nh.html 14:57 [hdf-eu] [un] gargor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 874 points, T:1494, killed by a killer bee 14:57 i think now i have the time to do a run too 14:57 imma do it 14:57 !lastgame aoei 14:57 luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/nethack/dumplog/1608150825.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/nh343/dumplog/1612135300.nh343.txt 14:57 actually it might be a bit too late 14:57 !lastgame Stella 14:57 aoei: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/nethack/dumplog/1612468400.nh.html 14:58 nuu 14:58 luxidream: dwarf with mattock nearly killed me, i backed up and took him out with a dagger 14:58 but i was on like 4 hp so tried to retreat out of hte mines and met a bat 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:588 14:58 and tried to dust E with 5 hp 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 166 points, T:590, killed by barely wounded Ms. Tuktoyaktuk; the shopkeeper 14:58 i think prayer would have been fine 14:58 :c 14:58 i should have played hum instead of dwa 14:58 its what i am most familiar with 14:58 5 hp is always prayer region iirc 14:59 why do you like it better 14:59 mines were too boring as a dwa 14:59 and then i just got used to it 14:59 I always lose time killing the gnomes 14:59 even before peaceful displacement 15:00 man the peaceful displacement is something to get used to lol 15:00 peaceful displacement is great tho 15:00 its cool yes, but its still unfamiliar 15:00 on 3.6.6 i keep bumping gnomes and getting annoyed by the prompt 15:00 its a good feature 15:00 i hate it lol 15:00 its like not autoselling when dropping stuff in shops 15:00 it makes sense but it works against muscle memory 15:01 idk 15:01 kinda got used to not just dropping half of my inventory in a shop and then leaving without actually selling the shit 15:01 what is this autosell shit 15:01 imagine needing money though :) 15:01 i never heard of that 15:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class m, on T:37550 15:02 I think when you hit enter it still defaults to selling? idk 15:02 aoei: just that 'do you want to sell' now defaults to 'n' instead of 'y' 15:02 stenno2: ohhhh 15:02 and it was 'y' before 15:02 so i could just hold space bar 15:02 i c 15:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12239 15:03 i will smoke a cig then run this back, gonna also discount the first run and do two timers this time 15:03 one per-run and one total time to asc 15:03 hopefully it doesn't take me 6.5 h like the last race lol 15:05 yeah imma do hum, dwa valk is for splatters and ootcers who don't have confidence 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 364 points, T:1678, killed by a nearly deceased hobgoblin 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13044 15:05 <{Demo}> gonna talk some shit on insane tin openers if i have to 15:06 lol 15:06 evening 15:06 infinigon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBmEeojfKo 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:37824 15:06 K2: would you be able to host the setseed patch as a variant on hdf for sunday? 15:07 stenno2: haha, i love how you just had this on hand 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 96 points, T:819, killed by an uninjured jackal 15:08 This is getting ridiculous 15:08 btw i would still appreciate testruns on setseed, just to iron out any showstoppers 15:08 i really hope there aren't any but with nethack you never know :P 15:09 infinigon: tomorrow i promise 15:09 or well 15:09 i guess i could do the same waht i already plan 15:09 but run local 15:09 um stenno you do know the WR uses dwa valk right 15:09 wont count for records but 15:09 thats ok lol 15:10 i should probably pull new changes etc. 15:10 not running for WR though 15:10 and dl my Stella rcfile 15:10 i'd rather focus on finishing my run in a good time 15:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law), 361 points, T:997, killed by a crossbow bolt 15:11 aoei: ssh nethack@us-test.demigod.bar is still up 15:11 btw i just reproduced the "unknown altar" bug again, and i got the seed this time 15:11 I suppose you can genocide mind flayers as human, but that matters a little less in 3.7 15:11 so it's definitely still an issue 15:11 need to investigate 15:11 infinigon: hm yea i'll try playing on your server 15:12 i think that's the only known issue though 15:12 so far 15:12 * infinigon afk for a few hours 15:12 infinigon: i can't ping thatone 15:12 is it also uk 15:12 why is it us-test 15:12 it's US 15:12 it's in AWS 15:12 that's no good 15:12 i'll run local 15:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:12 ok 15:12 thanks 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed the hateful whispers, on T:78890 15:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law), 488 points, T:664, killed by an uninjured dwarf 15:13 i won't be checking seed consistency tho 15:13 because i don't want to rerun the same game 15:13 you can #wizrng on the server 15:13 and just get the output from that 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) became the Hand of Lolth, on T:78934 15:14 i guess if i make a set of seeds i can replay them later for consistency checking 15:14 i dont want to run on a US server 15:15 oh, it's on AWS 15:15 i'll just run in wizmode lmao 15:15 I guess we will need a host from K2 then if we want to play 15:15 and not avert death 15:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law), 484 points, T:585, killed by a boiling potion, while frozen by a potion 15:16 fine fine 15:16 infinigon: there's an unknown altar bug in 3.7. I'm not sure if it has been already adressed. let me look up the mails 15:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3000 15:17 !lastgame stenno 15:17 luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1612469627.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/sporkhack/dumplog/1546261261.sp.txt 15:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a dust vortex, on T:3072 15:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:38429 15:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1818 points, T:3079, killed by an uninjured gnome 15:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:38578 15:19 infinigon: does error message say "unknown alignment"? there was a recent change that apparently does not propagating the shrine bit. 15:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 243 points, T:218, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 279 points, T:267, killed by an uninjured gecko 15:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2047 15:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:38854 15:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Deathsushi's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:433 15:24 Hey now 15:25 rude 15:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) consumed animal products (gecko) for the first time, on T:3135 15:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3320 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4276 15:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3413 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3917 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:4374 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4106 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:4515 15:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:39321 15:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2064 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4570 15:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:15125 15:37 all: i'm all for setting up a setseed game 15:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed nightjerle's ghost, the former Adept, on T:2374 15:37 sorry didnt jump into the convo earlier, been pulled away a lot today 15:38 im playtesting the setseed system atm, found some seeds with >= 18 con to run through and i'll try to remember to #wizrng them and then replay the seeds 15:38 <{Demo}> you missed me complaining about something, probably 15:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6286 15:41 heck yeah :) 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Dwa Fem Neu) had a pair of bone old gloves entrusted to her by Camaxtli, on T:20572 15:42 i can't get the #wizrng output after i win/splat can I? 15:42 i have to remember to hit the command and copypaste the info somewhere 15:42 just deny death and wizrng 15:43 oh right 15:43 duh 15:43 didnt think of that XD 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:21754 15:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2423 points, T:4528, killed by an uninjured killer bee 15:48 Will my pet fire elemental turn against me if it doesn't eat? 15:48 Or will that only happen if I leave it on a different level? 15:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Bat Fem Non), 53233 points, T:9441, petrified by a cockatrice 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) destroyed the invisible rebatela's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:19090 15:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8038 15:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a javelin entrusted to her by Odin, on T:34244 15:53 !tell infinigon hit me up when you get a chance, lets discuss your patch for setseed :P 15:53 Will do, K2! 15:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39993 15:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39994 16:01 castle after 45 minutes 16:01 pretty good 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:20198 16:02 got =oConflict, tonal 16:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana And Fem Neu), 5100 points, T:2545, quit 16:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:9177 16:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:9178 16:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:9189 16:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:9245 16:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet versus curses", on T:80500 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1400 points, T:7551, killed by a wounded soldier ant 16:15 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "doot doodle a doot do"] 16:17 damn stenno is doing way better than me 16:17 i've just been sat here splatting seeds left right and centeer 16:18 gonna start seed number 4 after a cig 16:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7091 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6293 16:22 hmm xl 12 16:23 i am doing a break too 16:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3602 16:23 1 hour in post votd 16:23 not bad 16:23 can still be sub 2h 16:23 that would be something lol 16:23 not that happy about my stuff though 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 125 points, T:1058, killed by an uninjured jackal 16:24 hope i can alchemize for gain level i guess 16:24 missing tc ring (most likely) 16:24 gotta conf ?oTele to the quest 16:24 I give myself 20 minutes for asc run+planes 16:25 so that's ~40 minutes get the rest of the invocation items 16:25 -!- dk657_ has joined #hardfought 16:25 normally post-votd is 1.5 hours for me 16:25 i think i will suffer in gehennom though 16:25 no telepathy (hate that) 16:25 no TC 16:25 1:2 wow 16:26 at least two wishes for marker 16:26 don't really wanna spend my wishes on anything else 16:26 you think hooa is still worth it in 3.7? 16:26 enot for the asc run 16:26 maybe i find one 16:27 lets see what the quest loot will bring but not too much i'd guess 16:27 I've found wresting during asc run to be annoying 16:27 and sometimes impossible, if the rng doesn't like you 16:27 hopefully i can keep 1:0 for hooa astral wrest 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:5020 16:28 -!- dk657 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:28 it takes some audacity to wrest on astral :) 16:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:2631 16:30 damn i am failing hard 16:30 lol 16:30 keep messing up 16:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 150 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Izchak's lighting store, on T:42068 16:30 5 splats so far 16:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:10424 16:31 i hope i play better on sunday 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1265 16:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:10742 16:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:10747 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Priestess, on T:6928 16:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42485 16:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42487 16:38 im gonna eat something then try to run it back again 16:39 bllp another brea 16:39 no speed boots, no =oTC 16:39 not enough polyfodder for polying rings 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:7007 16:39 guess i have to wish for =oTC 16:39 you don't need TC or speed boots 16:39 it's fine 16:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:42502 16:40 conflict probably more important 16:40 i do have conflict 16:40 hehas conflcit 16:40 also just found boots of levi 16:41 maybe i do a single poly 16:41 yeah you don't need tc 16:41 it's a bit slower but not too much 16:41 how do i go from wiztower to vs 16:41 walk 16:41 dig 16:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3083 16:41 in that order 16:41 probably 16:41 digging is so annoying when you have a monster nearby 16:42 it's not that bad 16:42 hit x, kill monster 16:42 hit > 16:42 you forgot to hit x again 16:42 :v 16:42 XD 16:42 lmao 16:42 ok ok noodles and then more running 16:42 no unholy water 16:42 i need to slow my pace a little because i'm smashing keys too fast and doing dumb shit 16:43 maybe i need to do conf !oRC 16:43 what do you want unholy for 16:43 !ogl? 16:43 dying doesn't help for first-to-asc 16:43 oh right i don't need tele lol 16:43 yea 16:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1723 points, T:3142, killed by a hill orc, while sleeping off a magical draught 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:7343 16:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:11098 16:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:42697 16:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:42698 16:47 fuck did i cancel my SI 16:47 SI? 16:47 see invis 16:47 seems like it 16:47 thats annoying 16:47 just look for the 5 16:48 that's probably the invisible whatever 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7248 16:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3227 16:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:11862 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 630 points, T:1008, killed by a jellyfish 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Mon Hum Fem Law), 21905 points, T:7376, killed by a wounded fire elemental 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "Blessed Greased Fixed +2 Gray Dragon Scale Mail", on T:7770 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:7839 16:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:12253 16:59 think its time for the marker wish 17:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:12259 17:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:9267 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1420 points, T:5737, killed by a slightly wounded gargoyle 17:04 lol gargoyle 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:8145 17:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44260 17:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:44261 17:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:12731 17:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:12733 17:06 Deathsushi: gargoylol 17:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:17109 17:08 man my marker was crappy 17:09 only 45 charges 17:09 i have this cursed scroll of geno 17:09 wonder if i should max my luck with it 17:09 or geno L 17:09 the former i guess 17:10 my ac of -5 is a bit annoying 17:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 17463 points, T:4257, killed by an ettin mummy 17:10 couldn't buy protection yet 17:10 maybe i buy it from hpom 17:11 meanwhile doge is at 0.05$ again 17:11 i feel like liches waste a lot of time 17:12 yeah but i have like +3 luck 17:12 i wanna hit that /oD charges against rodney 17:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:44379 17:12 not affected by luck 17:13 wut 17:13 well bilmey 17:13 blimey even 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:24181 17:13 the only way to get higher accuracy on a death ray is fod I think 17:14 because it's modified by spellcasting skill 17:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 102 points, T:268, killed by a dart trap 17:14 D:lvl2, general store, vorpal blade 17:14 Okay.. I guess so 17:15 imma write one more ID i think for the rings 17:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:44607 17:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:44613 17:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:44616 17:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:13377 17:23 mannn 17:24 AC:-7 is super nasty 17:24 buy prot from valley priest, take off HoOA first on asc run 17:24 gehennom has loads of random gold 17:24 no that's good 17:25 sketchy territory is below -5 17:25 how should i go to votd now lol 17:25 stenno2: no on the way up i mean 17:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:35907 17:25 its not that i have TC 17:25 just keep going 17:25 if you do it before asc run you'll lose prot with HoOA anyway 17:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2328714 points, T:44628, ascended 17:26 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/nethack/dumplog/1612440348.nh.html 17:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2063 17:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (And-Ana And Fem Neu) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:12602 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3870 17:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:14437 17:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:14444 17:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:35965 17:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:35966 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46939 17:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (And-Ana And Fem Neu) averted death, on T:13156 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46947 17:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:14884 17:36 i got randomly burdened 17:36 oh boh got uncursed 17:36 unblessed 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3430 17:37 hpom has comr 17:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:15073 17:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:15080 17:39 could wish for hooa now i guess 17:40 that means i def. have to wrest the last wish for marker 17:40 no =oLevi 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5231 17:40 so gotta do blessed levi for the planes? 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:26784 17:40 blessed !oLevi 17:40 you have potion? 17:40 yeah 2 17:40 sounds good 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3679 17:40 I had to do air without levi once 17:40 not cool 17:40 luckily I had enough junk 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3696 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Deathsushi's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:5762 17:46 ac -4 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:47139 17:48 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bort (ezion) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 195 points, T:204, killed by a gas spore's explosion 17:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:16303 17:51 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) had a pair of steel gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:27687 17:55 bhaak: yeah i'm looking at the astral altars in upstream NetHack-3.7 17:55 infinigon: Message from K2 at 2021-02-04 15:53 EST: hit me up when you get a chance, lets discuss your patch for setseed :P 17:56 i get lawful / lawful / "unknown alignment program in disorder" 17:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (And-Ana And Fem Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:15635 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Magician, on T:27850 18:00 yeah i've been getting it at mt too sometimes 18:01 The horned devil snatches Excalibur! 18:01 hmm 18:02 infinigon: would it be possible to dump wizrng info at death, instead of having to play in wizmode? 18:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) wished for "Cloak of the Unheld One", on T:2358 18:02 i just got killed by a wolf because i engrave tested a create monster wand, got asked what monster i want to create, i said d and got a wolf (p sure that was out of depth, too) ._. 18:03 so what are demons _actually_ resistant against 18:03 -!- Glord has joined #hardfought 18:03 wiki says horned devil is Fire, poison 18:03 not sleep? 18:03 not cold, not shock? 18:03 heh 18:03 didn't know that 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4688 points, T:4518, killed by a wounded elf-queen 18:03 well its false 18:04 hahaha 18:04 ofc 18:04 SIZ(WT_HUMAN, 400, MS_SILENT, MZ_HUMAN), MR_FIRE | MR_POISON, 18:04 seems legit 18:04 man i wish i had telecontrol 18:05 why did you claim it was false without checking the source stenno2 :| 18:05 smh my head 18:05 most of the monster stat blocks should be pulled straight from monst.c 18:06 i hit the horned devil with sleep and nothing happened 18:06 yeah it can resist 18:06 ^ 18:06 the wizard of yendor doesn't resist sleep either 18:06 good luck actually procing it on him though 18:07 i also wished i had unholy water now 18:07 because now i have to do asmos level with two angry demon lords 18:07 luxidream: i guess if you levdrain him first lol 18:07 amazing how deviation from my standard strategy leads to situations like that 18:07 -!- Glord has quit [Client Quit] 18:07 sounds like attribution error to me 18:08 this could equally just be bad RNG 18:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:08 if i had tele control, baalze would be dead now 18:08 just go down the stairs 18:09 then kill him 18:09 this game is ruined anyway 18:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:17786 18:10 rip 18:10 lost my Exca AGAIN 18:11 !rng run the last 2 seeds | give up for tonight 18:11 aoei: give up for tonight 18:12 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:15 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 578555 points, T:19506, killed by brainlessness (with the Amulet) 18:21 was bound to happen 18:21 next time SPEED BOOTS 18:21 i don't know how to play without it 18:21 it was ruined on the asc run anyway 18:23 i should just play the strategy i am used to 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:12291 18:23 <@luxidream> !lastgame stenno 18:23 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1612469803.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/sporkhack/dumplog/1546261261.sp.txt 18:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 130388 points, T:17606, killed by an invisible priest of Moloch, while paralyzed by a monster 18:23 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:24 oof 18:25 rip stenno 18:25 mmf tanked 2 +6 exca hits and 3 orange dragon hits 18:25 stenno2: how do you feel about 20 seeds instead of 10 18:25 realtime was 2h30 already anyway or something like that 18:25 just incase we splat several times like dummies 18:25 i don't care about seeds 18:26 as in you don't mind how many we have til game over? 18:26 i really don't care 18:26 2h44 in already 18:26 so that would have been 3h+ game 18:29 that was horrible rng altogether 18:29 F 18:29 good things were basically ring of conflict and tonal 18:29 oh and a cloak of protection on the asc run i guess 18:29 bhaak: this fixes the altar bug for me: https://gitlab.com/infinigon/nethack/-/tree/altar_bug_fix 18:30 no markers, no extra wishes, no FA ring, no levi ring, no TC ring 18:30 couldn't fight the minos for /oDig because i had like -5 AC 18:31 played that as if i was illit 18:31 <@riker> !8ball give me a number 1-6 18:31 @riker: Yes 18:31 felt a bit like it 18:31 no unholy water 18:32 shouldn't have wasted my time with looting all that shit because i didn't get anything anyway 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Vagrant, on T:8584 18:35 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:36 [hdf-eu] [xnh] zor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 217 points, T:220, killed by a dagger 18:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Joshu, on T:13426 18:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Brd Vam Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2124 18:41 oh i found geno, that was good too 18:44 should have taken some time to prepare better 18:45 only used a single zap from my poly wands 18:49 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 18:51 stenno2 u wanna toke on dis shit 18:51 toke for F 18:52 toke? 18:52 weiss nicht wie mann das übersetzt 18:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana And Fem Neu), 270925 points, T:19862, killed by a bone devil 18:52 hashisch rauchen 18:52 like a hit 18:52 or a puff 18:53 but only used in weed context 18:53 idk not really 18:53 its not that i could anyway 18:53 well F anyway 18:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:6015 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:30765 18:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:57 stenno2 aoei @luxidream when does this superbowl sunday nethack setseed event kick off 18:57 like what time 18:58 17:00 UTC 18:58 12 pm EST on sunday 18:58 6pm cet 18:58 ok 18:58 feb 7 18:58 i'll have a setseed version up and ready before then 18:58 epic 18:58 did we get anywhere with livelogging game start luxidream ? 18:59 no 18:59 is it just the three of you? 18:59 I won't be playing 18:59 this time 18:59 it's just aoei, stenno2 18:59 so just stenno and fuckface? 18:59 i mean aoei 18:59 :P 18:59 *ahem* 18:59 hahah 18:59 that's Dame Lady Fuckface to you 18:59 OBE 18:59 my apologies 18:59 * K2 curtsies 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:30900 18:59 out of body experience? 18:59 what 19:00 order of the british empire 19:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Brd Vam Mal Cha), 9905 points, T:4815, killed by a dwarf lord zombie 19:00 it's what you get if you get knighted 19:00 i said good day! 19:00 K2: lol 19:00 that...makes more sense 19:00 :) 19:00 fun fact - my wife and I officially/legally hold the titles of Lady and Lord respectively 19:00 as of this past xmas 19:01 oh 19:01 oh, it's one of those sealand ones 19:01 isn't it 19:01 well im sorry I haevn't been using your proper title Lord K2 19:01 lol 19:01 my wife's sister bought us each a square foot plot of land in scotland 19:01 I have a knighthood one 19:01 Oh how do you get that? 19:01 Someone suggested I do that and it sounded like a lark 19:01 apparently that legally makes us Lady and Lord 19:02 you just buy it, it's meaningless and quite silly 19:02 it is 19:02 did it for the lulz 19:02 Meaningless is just fine for me 19:02 <@910rd> Good thing I baked that into my nickname 19:02 My handle forever has been Lord Adam 19:02 So it seems appropriate 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:15269 19:02 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 19:02 nice 19:05 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 19:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 19:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:7113 19:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:7628 19:11 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:7823 19:14 Uhhhh 19:14 No I didn't 19:14 My dragon did 19:15 -!- luxidream has quit [Quit: Really quit? (Y/N)] 19:18 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1063 points, T:2093, killed by a gnome 19:27 [hdf-eu] [un] xor (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 1299 points, T:2049, killed by an Uruk-hai 19:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4741 19:34 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:1926 19:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) was given Magicbane, on T:5186 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2522 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:43994 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 298 points, T:1242, killed by a slightly wounded kitten 19:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 161 points, T:615, killed by a bear trap 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:18046 19:53 wow that food took so long to make but it was so worth it. (tried my hand at a new indian dish) 19:53 sick 19:53 waht did you make 19:54 chicken tikka masala except I ditched the chicken and used tofu instead, and also threw in some paneer I made yesterday for the first time 19:55 soooo gooood 19:55 also, basmati rice is my new best friend 19:56 what you never had basmati before 19:56 how have you lived 19:56 no I have, at restaurants and such 19:57 but have never actually tried cooking it 19:57 huh 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 298 points, T:825, killed by a wounded small mimic 19:57 i grew up on that stuff 19:57 cooked it at home many a time 19:57 is it not common where you are 19:57 I thought to get rice like that you needed a rice cooker, but nope 19:57 LOL 19:57 funniest shit i ever heard 19:58 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:59 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 19:59 The grocery stores are small where I live so they only carry one type of basmati rice, product of india, rather expensive comparatively 19:59 but now I know, worth the cost 20:00 [hdf-us] [spl] Glord (Val Ang Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:31920 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4756 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8303 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:19239 20:12 i've lived in homes with rice cookers a couple of times and they're pretty great 20:12 but when you're know how to do it just a normal pot works great 20:12 some people use loads of water and drain the rice afterwards lmao 20:13 (not how you do it) 20:13 I was not diligent enough rinsing the rice to get all the starch out 20:13 rinsed it 4 times, should have kept going 20:13 you actually lose something with basmati rinsing that thoroughly 20:14 jasmine or basmati i just wash once 20:14 but if you have not enough headspace in your pot its an issue 20:14 80% headspace is probably enough 20:14 I don't really want my rice sticking to itself much 20:14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pPb9mPzoXs 20:14 then use parboiled long-grain 20:14 doesn't stick 20:14 This asian guy is reacting to people making rice the way you described aoei :D 20:14 basmati is usually not crazy stick IME tho 20:14 Deathsushi: lol ok i have to check that out 20:15 It's pretty fun 20:15 funny* 20:15 Not too long either 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:6794 20:16 aosdict: i heard the shorter the grain the more it sticks, basmati isn't that short but can be a bit sticky, but this parboiled long-grain i bought doesn't stick *at all 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6865 20:16 *which surprised me cuz im used to my rice being a bit more sticky 20:17 but come on, I'm making indian food here, basmati is the natural choice 20:17 maybe I'll use parboiled long grain for spanish rice 20:18 oh I also learned how to make ghee today (inexpertly) and used it in the food 20:19 aosdict: im talkin individually separable grains 20:19 if basmati is the natural choice have it sticky as it's supposed to be :V 20:20 Deathsushi: she didn't wash the rice 20:20 Gloopy sad rice 20:20 loool 20:20 Hahaha 20:20 "if your rice is too wet you fucked up" 20:21 lmao 20:22 I do actually measure the water but I don't end up with wet rice and drain it like this crazy person 20:22 ok im going to bed for real 20:22 -!- dk657 has joined #hardfought 20:22 Good night! 20:25 -!- dk657_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:8869 20:34 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 20:35 I dont' find basmati to be terribly sticky. 20:35 But then, I'm used to Jasmine rice. 20:35 Basmati is an excelent choice for indian. 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:8882 20:36 Jasmine is more of a thai thing. 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:8919 20:36 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:37 Hello. 20:37 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 20:38 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought, where we talk about food. :) 20:39 What's on the menu. 20:39 Rice. 20:39 <@luxidream> I like jasmine 20:39 Jasmine is good. 20:39 APparently there's different varieties of Jasmine rice. 20:39 Also, quick question, player dwarves dig faster using pick-axes and such compared to other species, righT? 20:40 right* 20:40 We recently got the most expensive one last month - all the others had sold out and we needed rice. But the difference in flavour and texture is only slight. 20:40 <@luxidream> umbire: yes 20:40 Just clarifying for troping's sake. 20:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3817 points, T:4470, killed by a Green-elf 20:44 Wand of writing vanishes was not teleport. :( 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:31876 20:45 Cancelled yourself? 20:45 Or just not-that-useful invisibility? 20:45 aoei: Why. :c 20:46 Umbire: I needed to zap the elf away. 20:46 And had no other options - bottom flow of soko, which is no-dig, I think. 20:46 Ah, RIP. 20:46 HP was 7, so not low enough to pray, either. 20:47 Are wizards the only role to get hungerless casting? 20:48 Yes. 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 10025 points, T:9833, killed by an elven arrow 20:49 How do I deal with elves, as Wizard? 20:49 I don't have Elbereth as an option 20:49 Deathsushi: Brutally, ideally. 20:49 Right... of course 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:31907 20:51 Deathsushi: Stetho helps to know where you stand with them, imho, but generally like anything, you just need better AC. 20:51 Right 20:51 Okay, new question: 20:51 Is there anything particular busted that I can do when starting out with a magic marker? 20:52 I generally save it until you've identified enchant armour and then I go to town. :) 20:52 I think wizards can write anything they like if they have high luck, though. 20:53 Should I wait until I can blessed thr scrolls? 20:53 Early game? Probably not. Survival is more important. 20:54 Maybe Scare monster. 20:54 jAlright 20:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Pir Dro Fem Cha), 18482 points, T:6148, killed by a fire ant 20:56 Yeah, wizards are best at writing unID'd scrolls. 20:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:83811 20:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5676 20:59 Umbire: Yeah, but only at max luck, I think. 21:00 I think it's just period that they have the best chance to write an unknown scroll 21:00 I don't recall, though. 21:00 Yah, they have a big bonus 21:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 228 points, T:1008, killed by a killer bee 21:00 Shouldn't have kicked that tree. 21:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) was given Frost Treads, on T:11811 21:04 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:32842 21:09 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:13 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:16 [hdf-us] [spl] Glord (Val Ang Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:35606 21:17 -!- Umbire is now known as Umbyre 21:17 -!- Umbyre is now known as Umbire 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3233 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3296 21:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Pir Hum Mal Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:10386 21:32 <@based> in dnethack, a dwarf lady stole some magicite (worth 9999 gold normally) from a shop 21:32 <@based> and i picked it up and tried to sell it but it wasnt ID'd so i picked it back up 21:32 <@based> and now it is tagged as "Stolen" 21:33 <@based> i cant find any wiki info about this and shopkeepers arent offering any gold for this and are just saying "it is stolen" 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:21593 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:5711 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:21601 21:35 Try asking in the Variants channel, Chris is there atm 21:37 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 4372 points, T:6129, killed by a giant centipede of Thoth 21:39 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Mother Hydra, on T:87126 21:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 tiny orange dragon scale shield", on T:13347 21:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:87171 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3722 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:4834 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 4368 points, T:3780, killed by an uninjured killer bee 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:32916 22:00 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:01 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 22:01 As wiz: Should I be carrying spellbooks I can't yet read around with me through the dungeon, or am I better off stashing them and coming back? 22:01 Deathsushi, stash them. They're quite heavy. 22:01 <@riker> i'd stash them if you can't put them in your BoH 22:01 Or sell them. 22:01 Yah, okay cool 22:01 <@riker> they're pretty heavy and they're also quite burnable 22:01 So I just trust I'll be able to come back and get them later. That makes sense 22:02 Stash them in a container you can lock, under a boulder, next to the downstair on a level you can stay off of, or some combination of the above. 22:06 -!- dk657 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07 -!- dk657 has joined #hardfought 22:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:88202 22:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:88216 22:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1184 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7009 22:30 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 22:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jilvane (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 59770 points, T:16627, choked on a tengu corpse 22:33 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:34 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:36 <@based> ree 22:38 I think the term is 'F'. 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:7765 22:48 -!- stenno4 has joined #hardfought 22:51 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:00 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 23:04 [hdf-us] [spl] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9362 23:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:89443 23:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] swelljoo (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 402 points, T:1514, killed by a wounded homunculus 23:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:89450 23:16 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 bone gauntlets of power", on T:14519 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed tsingi's ghost, the former Robber, on T:44417 23:35 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 23:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:17097 23:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] repeat (Pri Hum Mal Law), 466 points, T:1426, killed by a wand 23:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] swelljoo (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:2432 23:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] swelljoo (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2453 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:44960 23:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3084 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11204 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Cav Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an umber hulk, on T:11239 23:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] repeat (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 270 points, T:559, killed by an uninjured manes 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 6840 points, T:11021, killed by an uninjured gelatinous cube