00:00 it doesn't matter 00:01 if you geno them first you get some cobras 00:01 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:01 which are mildly annoying but not dangerous 00:05 Yeah, I think S is most of the backup WRT "pre-genoed-; Plane of Water" 00:06 A handful of them can still drown you 00:06 Mostly phytons 00:06 pythons* 00:07 it's literally just cobras 00:07 there are no pythons 00:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:19109 00:08 Really? 00:08 Huh. 00:08 Deathsushi: In any case not a remotely game-ending blunder 00:08 Phewf 00:08 Just something I wouldn'tve done but there's not much drawback in it now I know a bit more 00:08 Would have been worth it either way 00:08 Ye 00:08 Classic ragegenocide 00:09 This the trouble with ascension 00:09 You get fickle humans doing stuff like this 00:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:58861 00:12 Also, TIL quasits being a Knight quest enemy is yet another Paladin-ism from D&D 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31291 00:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:58887 00:16 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:20661 00:18 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5462 00:34 This is rediculous. I took a detour through fort-ludios - discovered it on the way back up. 00:34 I'm in the *middle* of the soldiers. On all sides, and they can't even hurt me. :) 00:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:21443 00:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:21447 00:37 It's basically that SAO scene except more awesome 00:37 Esp. if you have reflection, they just do tons of damage to themselves 00:38 Umbire: Yeah, I even forgot to weild a weapon. ;) 00:40 (the Abridged version of that scene unironically goes hard) 00:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed figurine of an intoner", on T:551 00:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1270 00:48 It's interesting that the monsters within fort ludios are entirely dragons. 00:49 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:60847 00:50 So once I've found the vibrating square, do I need to mark it in some way, or will it stay marked from here forward? 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "magic marker", on T:32340 00:53 Yeah, you'll have it marked on the map I think 00:53 And you can always leave junk as a marker to be sure 00:53 Annotations, too 00:53 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Tiamat, on T:15939 00:54 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15941 00:54 Deathsushi: You could suffer amnesia and forget it, as an example. 00:55 arahael2 Does amnesia still work that way? 00:56 Not sure, was it changed? :) I dunno, it's never really been an issue. You know which level it is, you'd have to be pretty unlucky to forget where it is and have to find it again between the point you find the square, kill the wizard, and get back down to it. 00:57 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:61235 01:00 Oh, wow. Can cast finger of death with 0% fail. 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:32358 01:03 I mean you ARE still lv30 01:03 You are become death, destroyer of worlds 01:04 (but tripping with a C corpse still owns you shitless) 01:04 ah yes 01:04 those dangerous centaur corpses 01:06 *c 01:06 fuck off >:C 01:06 Haha. :) 01:06 also have you seen how filling those are????????/ 01:06 Indeed. 01:06 Umbire: I did consider eating a green slime. ;) 01:06 I'd rather eat literal horses, easier to lose the weight 01:06 But that's an instadeath, fairly sure. 01:06 No, just gives you sliming 01:07 It's a v. last resort cure for stoning 01:07 Ah, interesting. 01:10 Here goes. No return. 01:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:61649 01:11 * Umbire prays 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:32561 01:20 <@riker> livelog msg for drinking para potions and then dying should be "while paralyzed by drinking a potion of paralysis like a fucking idiot" 01:20 <@riker> maybe then i'd actually learn 01:20 <@riker> !ping 01:20 @riker: Pong! 01:21 <@riker> wait did beholder eat my death? 01:21 Killed by elementary alchemy 01:21 It's saving you the embarassment 01:22 <@riker> name & shame 01:23 F in the chat 01:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:62170 01:28 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:62289 01:30 Come on come on! 01:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:62362 01:31 * Umbire is watching now 01:33 550+ PW OPhew 01:34 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Pestilence (5 times), on T:62433 01:34 How many times do we have to teach you this lesson! 01:35 You have gloves right? 01:36 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:18582 01:38 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:62561 01:39 Grand tour... 01:39 Grand tour monkaS 01:40 Umbire: What? Gloves? 01:40 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Wayfarer, on T:18989 01:41 Ah, yeah. Death... Just remembered that I can't death death. 01:41 I was asking since you got blinded 01:41 Didn't want you to get c'd or anything 01:41 also lol at him opening the door you were 01:41 Heh. :) 01:41 Looks like it might be time to put that magmis to work 01:42 Yeah, I've got all the armour, except for shield. 01:42 magmis? 01:42 Ah, magic missile. 01:42 (but also maybe don't hit the high priest with it) 01:42 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:62643 01:42 Yep, just two hits. 01:42 WHy not hit the high priest? What happens? :) 01:42 I mean you don't want to deal with an angry high priest when the altar is RIGHT THERE 01:42 uh oh, look out. "Janet the invisible spelunker picks up a worm tooth" 01:43 Fair point 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7657 01:43 I thought the high priesy was in that room potentially 6_9 01:43 (I've only seen astral personally once shut up) 01:44 Oh, wow. 01:44 Yeah, I'm just checking what healing options I've got, actually. 01:44 I do have a tin of nurse meat, but... I've just realised that I'm unlikely to be able to eat it. 01:44 No healing spells? 01:44 Is it blessed? 01:44 I mean if it's blessed you get 1 turn max to open it and another to actually consoom 01:44 Oh dang, coautl has yoyu 01:45 mm 01:45 She just needs to move 01:45 ATTABOY 01:46 Top ten too! 01:46 Sweet :) 01:46 Proud of ya! 01:46 Woohoo! 01:46 top ten? 01:46 :O 01:46 Livelog's busted but yeah 01:47 <@riker> oooh nice arahael. gg 01:47 <@riker> okay yeah are deaths just busted hten? wack 01:47 <@riker> !lastgame arahael 01:47 @riker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1611903168.nh.html 01:47 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1611941275.nh.txt 01:47 <@riker> ye found it 01:48 I did that game e-less. 01:48 congratulations, Arahael. did I see that correctly, that you made the top 1 list? 01:49 ^ not just top ten, but top *one* 01:49 I actually missed the high scores. :( Looking for it. 01:49 lol! 01:50 top scoring au game? 01:50 that's what it looked like to me 01:50 cool 01:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:20439 01:51 Dumplog should have it yeah 01:52 Well, it says I made about 1.8 million in highscore before end-of-game adjustments, which would have placed me around... Top 240. :) 01:52 >You went to your reward with 3929214 points, 01:52 Ooh, nice. 01:52 I'd have liked to ascend with Xp 30, but didn't happen. 01:53 Umbire: That puts me into the top 30, that score. :) Very nice. 01:53 Not top 10, though. 01:54 You could've taken a moment after wasting that vamplord 01:54 Umbire: I did most of astal with one hand on the keyboard, and the other hand holding an ice pack to my jaw :( 01:54 arahael2: top of the top ten on au server 01:55 Was gonna say it wasn't actually that urgent 01:55 Neat :) 01:55 but yeah I wasn't trying to downplay that either, sorry 01:55 I'm very happy with it. :) 01:55 Chaotic Elf Wizard is pretty awesome. 01:59 Going for a lie down for a bit. :) 02:01 have a good one, arahael2. hope the ice helps 02:02 * tinklebear firmly believes in the healing powers of ice packs 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Peregrinator, on T:8115 02:07 Be well, and congrats again! 02:13 Thanks tinklebear and Umbire :) 02:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:21109 02:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Heroine, on T:21119 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:8901 02:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) was given the Blade Singer's Saber, on T:26772 02:37 -!- Nelennath has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:37 -!- Nelennath has joined #hardfought 02:42 grats 02:42 aoei: Message from luxidream at 2021-01-30 23:46 EST: can u link my wizgdq account? I got a cool score :3 02:44 done 02:46 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:52 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 atma weapon", on T:26788 03:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) became the Envoy of Balance, on T:27169 03:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:04 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 03:06 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +5 tiny bone pick axe", on T:27320 03:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:27570 03:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:13643 04:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of conflict", on T:13810 04:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:13888 04:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:13907 04:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:13933 04:07 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a raven, on T:10299 04:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:14093 04:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:14095 04:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:34 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:37 huh someone offered a fix for something? I wasn't aware of broken stuff in slex 04:37 LarienTelrunya: Messages from amateurhour and @riker have been forwarded to you privately. 04:39 dang, now amateurhour would have to be there to explain what the bug is 04:42 !tell @riker you can be converted against your will in slex, yes 04:42 No worries, LarienTelrunya, I've got this! 04:42 {Demo} are you here? do you know what infinite loop bug amateurhour was referring to? 04:42 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 04:45 !tell amateurhour uhh sorry but could you give some specifics to that bug? because I'm not even sure what bug you mean, did it occur in your game or...? 04:45 I'm on it, LarienTelrunya. 04:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 tiny shadowsteel droven greatsword", on T:29591 04:46 hmm now that I think of it, could be this weird one I saw during fuzzing once... but once again, soneone didn't give enough context so I'm reduced to having to do guesswork :P 04:47 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed the first wraithworm, on T:30708 05:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:11258 05:14 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 05:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:1796 05:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:15283 05:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:15629 05:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:15809 05:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:15819 05:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:41 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 06:03 tinklebear: hmm that was probably not intentional 06:03 hostiles/tames being able to displace peacefuls is intended, but it should probably not happen as a result of a joust 06:05 I'm actually not sure whether it was result of the joust. it might just have been one of those odd-sounding juxtaposed messages. 06:05 Ahh 06:05 Well if you're jousting anyway, feel free to tell me if it happens again 06:06 sure. I will watch for it. 06:08 tinklebear: hay 06:08 i died on astral yesterday on nao, it was awesome 06:08 miskeyed everything i wasn't wearing into my boh, including cancel wand 06:09 on fire plane 06:09 nooo! 06:09 lol 06:09 made it to astral somehow 06:09 then got rekt by the riders 06:09 they riders are very mean 06:09 yis 06:10 pestilence killed muh unicorn, and then killed me! 06:10 https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/dumplog/aoei/1612047914.nh366.txt 06:10 oh i still have bell of opening and orb of fate too 06:11 (actually, I think the angels killed the u) 06:11 bastard angels :| 06:11 rude, too 06:12 man. I forgot that Pestilence causes stunning, too 06:12 aye 06:12 yeah and i had no unihorn lol 06:12 really threw me off 06:12 no horn?? 06:12 that sucks 06:12 oof 06:12 horn was also boh-exploded 06:12 along with almost everythign else i had 06:12 oh, of course 06:12 check that dumplog invent lol 06:12 damn 06:13 pesty and famien got killed once each to conflict 06:13 while i was trying to runa round them with my extra speed 06:13 but once i got stunned i had no chance 06:13 to get anywhere 06:13 sadly 06:13 looking for a weapon... oh crap EVERYTHING went into the bag...! 06:13 yeah i miskeyed a A somehow 06:13 im surprised oof survived that 06:13 i thought only the "oY and invocation items couldn't be bagged 06:14 wow. 06:14 first termill by pesty i prayed to cure lol 06:14 prayed on astral 06:14 not sure i've ever done that before 06:15 you may have gotten further than I did, with just your armor... 06:16 i was impressed that i even made it to astral lol 06:16 altho water plane isn't that deadly i gues 06:16 fire was a bit dodgy cuz iirc i had no intrinsic pr, was waering the ring til i swapped it out to waer levi and conflict on air 06:16 ye no poison resist 06:17 the clouds on fire plane were hurting me 06:17 on the way 06:17 ah well 06:17 i will smoke this cig 06:17 and then think about REST APIs 06:18 all that way from fire with nothing but oof and armr 06:18 wow 06:18 lel yea it was bonkers 06:18 such an epic death 06:18 i had already portal detected on fire before the accident 06:18 more memorable than a win, maybe 06:19 only meant to put some scrolls or potions back in my bag after portal detection 06:19 yeah, ... 06:19 if i didnt know where the portal was i would have died on fire plane probably 06:19 brb cig 06:19 i rolled it myself 06:19 its better that way 06:19 cool. lol 06:20 * tinklebear agrees 06:26 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 06:27 lol, aoei. you killed famine twice with with no weapons. 06:28 hahaha 06:28 technically conflict did but still, funny :) 06:31 does wielding the amulet affect the damage you do? like, do you need to wield something in order to get strength bonus on damage or something? 06:33 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:33 nah i was wielding it for portal detection on water 06:33 but i think i pretty much stumbled into the portal 06:33 didn't notice the warm/hot messages 06:33 Beholder doesn't announce my deaths 06:33 stenno: Beholder is broken 06:33 :( 06:33 hy 06:33 why 06:34 because I made a version where I attempted to port it to python3 06:34 my limited tests were not sufficient to catch all the bugs it had when K2 pulled it to production lol 06:34 i blame python3 :v 06:35 stenno: check out my epic astral splat tho 06:36 https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/dumplog/aoei/1612047914.nh366.txt 06:41 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:43 AC:-8 is optimistic 06:46 lol AC:-8 isn't really the main problem there 06:46 look at my inventory 06:48 -!- crankycat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:49 oh you destroyed all your stuff? 06:50 yup 06:50 miskeyed a A on fire plane after detecting hte portals lol 06:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:36138 06:59 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 06:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 07:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed Mother Hydra, on T:36275 07:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:21275 07:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4020 07:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed elron's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:12918 07:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:23400 07:36 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:36 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed the Grue, on T:37039 07:42 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:42 -!- 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Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:17731 08:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3677 08:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:17742 08:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:17817 08:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:4673 08:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4719 08:44 !who 08:44 nabru: [hdf-us] rockedsocks [nh370] efw [nh370] Merlek [nh370] Leeroy [dnh] malor6 [dnh] tinklebear [fh] owen [4k] nabru [ndnh] Bourne [dyn] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nh370] microlance [dnh] mobileuser [evil] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:48 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 08:48 -!- rothfuss.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ The November NetHack Tournament 2020 has ended! - https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt 08:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 08:48 !ping 08:48 K2: Pong! 08:48 !booze 08:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:9, killed by a falling object 08:49 \o/ 08:49 yay 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh13d] nabru (Val Fem), 58 points, T:70, gnome 08:49 !tell nabru hi 08:49 nabru shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 08:50 !who 08:50 K2: [hdf-us] rockedsocks [nh370] efw [nh370] Merlek [nh370] Leeroy [dnh] malor6 [dnh] tinklebear [fh] owen [4k] VaderFLAG [evil] Bourne [dyn] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 08:50 !whereis efw 08:50 hi 08:50 Hello nabru, Welcome to #hardfought 08:50 nabru: Message from K2 at 2021-01-31 08:49 EST: hi 08:50 it works! 08:50 K2: efw is not playing. 08:50 well not quite 08:50 it kind of works 08:50 death and asc reporting doesn't work 08:50 livelogging works, a few commands work 08:50 aoei: 00:48 <+Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:9, killed by a falling object 08:50 <{Demo}> snow! 08:51 Tangles: :o 08:51 I may have broken !streak... 08:51 Tangles: did you fix it? :D 08:51 Yeah 08:51 yay 08:51 !streak 08:52 Tangles: [hdf-au] Tangles Max[nh363]: 2 (2018-12-03 - 2019-04-15). Current[nh363]: 2 (since 2019-09-16). 08:52 i didn't notice the resumed reporting because I have qt's behold_less plugin installed lol 08:52 !streak luxidream 08:52 amateurhour: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-01-31 04:45 EST: uhh sorry but could you give some specifics to that bug? because I'm not even sure what bug you mean, did it occur in your game or...? 08:52 it filteres a lot of the info 08:52 amateurhour: No streaks for luxidream. 08:52 that seems not right maybe. 08:52 yeah so !streak and !whereis don't work 08:53 oh you destroyed all your stuff?7 08:53 K2: did you update all 3 instances? 08:53 oh sorry 08:53 !tell LarienTelrunya the game can get in an infinite loop trying to display things whilst swallowed, blows out the call stack and segfaults 08:53 I'm on it, amateurhour. 08:53 cleaning my keyboard 08:53 !asc stenno 08:53 stenno: [hdf-us] stenno has not ascended in 3 games. | [hdf-eu] stenno has ascended 17 times in 386 games (4.40%): nh370:13 (8.18%), xnh:2 (7.69%), nh363:2 (2.38%) | [hdf-au] stenno has not ascended in 2 games. 08:53 Tangles not yet, on it 08:54 amateurhour: heh I'm here :P any particular situation where that happens? 08:54 LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2021-01-31 08:53 EST: the game can get in an infinite loop trying to display things whilst swallowed, blows out the call stack and segfaults 08:54 K2: Cool thanks. I think there will be more updates soon. 08:54 Beholder updated on all 3 now 08:54 be swallowed, start the game again so 'firsttime' evals to true (or click mouse if compiled with mouse support) 08:55 have display at certain size 08:55 questionmark questionmark 08:55 profit 08:55 uhh why can't you simply tell me the specifics, how am I supposed to reproduce if one step is "questionmark questionmark"? 08:56 because I don't know 100% reproducible steps for it 08:56 <{Demo}> Amy amateuthour also linked a fix 08:56 [hdf-eu] [nh343] stenno (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:14, choked on a \x0304PENIS 08:56 aren't there meant to be *three* question marks? 08:56 that fix looks weird to me though 08:56 damn 08:56 oh my stenno 08:56 <{Demo}> lmao 08:56 thanks for the visual 08:57 ... 08:57 lol 08:57 im with ais523 on this one 08:57 smy my head amateurhour 08:57 oops 08:58 smh my head* 08:58 I copied the first questionmark but pasting sent the message so I was committed to only two 08:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Sceptre of Lolth, on T:5069 08:58 :( 08:58 well at least you tried to meme correctly 08:58 amateurhour: also "display at certain size", do I have to check every single possible size??? 08:58 even if you FAILED MISERABLY 08:58 I can only hope that you can find in your hearts to forgive me in time 08:58 amateurhour: maybe 08:59 if you're nice 08:59 Amy I think you should just copy the fix that other variants made 08:59 lol amateurhour you know Amy won't 08:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] potato (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:31, choked on a food ration 08:59 she alwasy re-implements things 08:59 it is her way 08:59 yeah sure, like I'm going to implement some shady "calls itself a fix" that even says in the description "hopefully it actually fixes it" without knowing what it really does! 09:00 <{Demo}> it does fix it BTW 09:00 <{Demo}> we haven't seen that crash in ages now and it used to be fairly common from fuzzer 09:01 <{Demo}> if you don't like the dnao fix, get the """variant that call itself vanilla""" fix 09:01 * aoei bets 1 zorkmid Amy will re-implement the fix herself 09:02 {Demo}: ah so it was that weird fuzzer bug after all 09:03 looks like it was fixed in vanilla in fccd29dfd 09:03 !who 09:03 Tangles: [hdf-us] efw [nh370] tsingi [nh370] nabru [nh370] Merlek [nh370] Leeroy [dnh] tinklebear [fh] owen [4k] VaderFLAG [evil] Bourne [dyn] arnibald [dyn] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 09:04 !whereis microlance 09:04 Tangles: microlance is not playing. 09:04 !whereis VaderFLAG 09:04 Tangles: VaderFLAG is not playing. 09:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Cha), 42548 points, T:7685, killed by a leocrotta 09:04 the description in the vanilla commit is very weird, it doesn't mention a crash at all but only that the cursor appears in the wrong place? sounds very insignificant... 09:05 honestly is there any point reporting segfaults 09:05 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:05 !whereis nabru 09:05 nabru: nabru is not playing. 09:06 amateurhour: i'm gonna say no 09:07 also i think i just lost a zorkmid :C 09:07 took me ages searching dl1 to find it, too 09:07 it was my only cash 09:07 spose that's what I get for gambling 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2151 points, T:1547, killed by an uninjured chameleon imitating a jabberwock 09:08 ... 09:08 !lastgame nabru 09:08 nabru: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for nh370:nabru) | [hdf-eu] (sorry, no dump exists for evil:nabru) | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 09:10 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1612100295.nh.html 09:12 "You consume the last bite of your meal. You finish eating the rothe corpse." wow department of redundancy department sponsored by 3.7 :P 09:13 also why does it no longer say gave over :( 09:13 <{Demo}> what's the least annoying way to run nethack in wizard mode? 09:13 ./nethack -D 09:14 <{Demo}> not the wizard user, sorry 09:14 ./nethack -D -u demogorgon22 09:14 <{Demo}> added a wizard user with the same uid as my current user so I don't need to mess with file perms 09:14 <{Demo}> and running it with sudo -u wizard but it still bitches im not wizard 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Urc's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:2913 09:14 [hdf-us] [4k] Owen (owen) (Sam Gia Mal Law) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2167 09:14 did you edit the sysconf file? 09:15 {Demo}: just do what I did for my local dnhslex copy, make it so that the explore mode command lets you switch to wizard mode :P 09:15 <{Demo}> think it all says wizard 09:15 <{Demo}> amy, dnh doesn't check user at all 09:16 <{Demo}> removes that 09:16 <{Demo}> and just says "-D" flag is good enough 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3147 09:17 Demo are you talking about the variant which calls itself vanilla? if you edit the sysconf file and put wizards=* or something 09:17 then bam any user 09:17 <{Demo}> wheres sysconf? this is 343 nao? 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4222 points, T:3291, killed by an uninjured giant ant 09:18 amateurhour you too? 09:18 oh 343 nao sorry, no idea 09:18 did amy brainwash you finally 09:23 <{Demo}> ugh, now i can get it to run but it doesn't redraw properly 09:24 <{Demo}> doing this shit https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/805443280186900540/unknown.png 09:24 <{Demo}> when I run it directly in gdb 09:24 I might be blind not sure what looks wrong 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 49 points, T:627, killed by an uninjured water demon 09:25 <{Demo}> look at the cursor 09:25 <{Demo}> it just displays whatever i type on the cursor 09:25 <{Demo}> and i have to press enter for it to process it 09:25 <{Demo}> i have the same issue when trying to run nh1.3d locally outside of a debugger 09:25 <{Demo}> and idk what to call it 09:25 <{Demo}> or how to fix it 09:26 <{Demo}> determined it isn't an issue with my terminal(s) 09:26 try attaching gdb in a separate terminal? 09:26 like gdb --pid $(pidof nethack) 09:27 idk, i didn't have this problem attaching gdb to 3.7.0 09:27 it might be the terminal handling code was fixed since 3.4.3, idk 09:28 <{Demo}> yeah that's been my workaround 09:28 <{Demo}> but no, runs fine usually 09:28 <{Demo}> but for this specific case its fucked 09:28 <{Demo}> and i don't know why 09:28 any ideas ais523? I feel like this is something you'd have some spooky instinct about 09:29 <{Demo}> i blame shitty fucking ncurses 09:29 ncursed 09:30 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 09:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41516 09:35 <{Demo}> how long does it take realtime to get crowned in vanilla? 09:36 [hdf-us] [4k] Owen (owen) (Sam Gia Mal Law) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:3503 09:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Mon Eth Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:730 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1085 points, T:2479, killed by an uninjured hill orc 09:40 according to lux it takes about 15 minutes 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:3630 09:40 for a normal person at least double that probably 09:40 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Mon Eth Fem Neu) completed Lokoban, on T:1111 09:41 idk if lux's 15 min estimate includes getting the luckstone and maxing luck, as well as camping and saccing/praying 09:42 once you have 13 luck it doesn't take too long 09:42 without 13 luck it's impossible 09:42 or maybe 11 luck works 09:42 because of rnl weirdness 09:42 pretty sure you need a luck item though 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3960 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3987 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3996 09:43 but don't take my or the wiki's word for it, source dive it as i know you are going to 09:44 <{Demo}> what about realtime to get first gift? 09:45 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 09:45 -!- card.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ The November NetHack Tournament 2020 has ended! - https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt 09:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 09:45 not sure what the average is 09:45 sometimes once you have an altar you have it on the first sac lol 09:45 !streak k2 09:45 then it takes like no time at all 09:45 K2: [hdf-us] k2 Max[xnh]: 4 (2018-03-30 - 2018-04-15). Current[dnh]: 1 (since 2020-12-24). 09:45 there's probably some way to calculate the expected/average time 09:46 based on monster generation rate, corpse chance, and chance per sac of a gift 09:46 lux's first sub-1h run had Magicbane within 2 minutes of play or something 09:46 lol 09:47 also Demo if you mean time since start of game it's even more variable because you need an altar, and there are so few guaranteed ones in the game 09:47 <{Demo}> crowing should happen on first pat on head after the quest? 09:47 should it? 09:48 <{Demo}> in brevishack :) 09:48 ahhh 09:48 hehe 09:48 do note Demo, what I'm saying about crowning is based on a wiki page that cites only 3.4.3 09:48 soooo 09:48 i am gonna check the source on that in the post-343 versions 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:4500 09:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2657 09:51 <{Demo}> brevishack is 343nao 09:51 oic 09:51 so you don't care about he new stuff in this case 09:52 <{Demo}> new stuff? 09:52 well, idk yet if anything changed in that code 09:52 im sourcediving now 09:52 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:53 it does look like the code is a bit different, but the end result might still be the same 09:53 [hdf-eu] [slshm] HarmathZsolt (Rog Lyc Fem Cha), 672 points, T:903, killed by Mr. Kirklareli, the shopkeeper 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:35738 09:54 oh wait no i thikn it is the same 09:54 nvm 09:54 was looking at the wrong bit 09:54 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:5535 09:55 crowning is possible with 10 luck but less likely 09:56 so to do it fast you want 12, 11 is the same as 10 and 13 is the same as 12 beacuse luck/2 rounded down is used 09:56 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Mon Eth Fem Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:3469 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Robber, on T:35942 09:58 <{Demo}> bleh, there's no way to complete the quest in brevishack 09:58 yay etherealoid monk 09:58 <{Demo}> in the u.uevent.qcompleted sense 09:58 !streak k2 09:58 K2: [hdf-us] k2 Max[xnh]: 4 (2018-03-30 - 2018-04-15). Current[dnh]: 1 (since 2020-12-24). 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2372 points, T:6085, killed by a wounded giant spider 09:59 chance of gift per sac (for first gift assuming no artis exist already, and all the other checks are good [xl>=3, prayer timeout=0 luck>=0]) is 1/12 10:01 Demo maybe go through quest portal with bell could work? 10:01 50% chance of a gift within the first 8 sacs 10:01 <{Demo}> chaning it to picking up QA 10:01 <{Demo}> instead of handing QA to QL 10:01 >80% within first 20 sacs 10:02 but if you're camping you may have to pray for nutrition, inflating the number of sacs needed in total 10:02 maybe Brevishack should be 1/3 chance of a gift 10:02 <{Demo}> no 10:02 <{Demo}> 1 sac, 1 gift 10:02 <{Demo}> for first gift 10:02 <{Demo}> beyond that, old rules 10:02 1 like = 1 prayer 10:03 <{Demo}> for crowning, 1 pat on head after quest complete is crowning 10:03 ok yea that makes more sense 10:03 as if you need additional sac gifts in brevishack 10:03 altho maybe remove grimtooth, sting and orcrist from the game 10:03 because they're SHIT 10:04 <{Demo}> im not dealing with problems like that 10:04 fine :( 10:04 <{Demo}> if you want stormy, get crowned for it 10:04 fine :( 10:05 having to do quest before getting crowned tho ehhh 10:05 can you make it so beating castle also counts 10:05 you can do the quest in like 5 seconds 10:05 can you do it before castle 10:05 yeah and actually I did it before castle every time so I could bless the bell to open drawbridge 10:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:42830 10:06 i always forget you can do that 10:06 <{Demo}> the bell should generate blessed now i think 10:06 <{Demo}> ok, time to try to fix difficulty issues :( 10:06 yeah but you added that after you brutally murdered brevishack from the server :'( 10:06 :'( 10:07 its nice to see you working on it tho Demo 10:07 i claim full credit for this 10:07 as I dm'd him this morning "make Brevishack great again" 10:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:42843 10:08 i never tried it when it was online actually 10:08 but i love the concept 10:08 <@luxidream> hi aoei did you see my cool time 10:08 yes and i linked your acct 10:08 gratz 10:08 <{Demo}> gonna multiply everything in level_difficulty() by 4 10:08 <@luxidream> ok great 10:09 <{Demo}> hopefully gonna get brevishack back on up the server later today 10:09 :o 10:09 :fingers_crossed: 10:09 awe why doesn't that work 10:09 <@luxidream> works discord side 10:09 oh that's neat 10:09 my weechat converts some of them before sending to IRC server, but I used the wrong shortcode apparently 10:09 i guess discord also converts them on that side 10:10 <{Demo}> aaaaa secret corridors DIE 10:10 haha my weechat plugin has 🖕 but not that one 10:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9491 10:10 we gonna race to first brevishack asc? 10:11 haha that'd be epic 10:13 <@luxidream> demo can you bump up loot generation 10:13 <@luxidream> Or did you do that already 10:14 <{Demo}> on the ground, yeah 10:14 <{Demo}> it's up by a lot 10:14 have you cut dungeon floors 10:14 <{Demo}> hella 10:14 to like 10 or so 10:14 <{Demo}> https://github.com/demogorgon22/brevishack/blob/3.4.3-nao/changelog.md 10:14 how many does Gehennom have 10:14 hahahaa 10:15 dl4 quest portal 10:15 awesome 10:15 oh I thought you played it last time aoei 10:15 no i have never played it 10:15 but i am excited about the imminent opportunity to do so 10:15 I know luxidream did a few games, and mobileuser 10:15 I got the first astral splat :D 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3166 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:3166 10:15 Quest is now just the goal level 10:16 epic 10:16 <@luxidream> I got purple L at castle 10:16 <@luxidream> And died 10:16 <{Demo}> yeah thats changed now 10:16 <{Demo}> NOT in a good way either 10:16 <{Demo}> not in a "we see and respect the hell only flag in mkclass" 10:17 in what way then? D: 10:17 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:17 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Changing host] 10:17 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 10:17 <{Demo}> find the commit and find out 10:17 <{Demo}> all i remember is it was kludgtastic cause i was feeling really lazy 10:17 in a 'no purpL allowed in castle heres a dirty filthy hack i am ashamed of' 10:17 haha, it is literally 10 levels if you don't count planes 10:18 well 10 main dungeon/gehennom/sanctum 10:18 that's awesome 10:18 i love it 10:18 -!- Disruptor43 has joined #hardfought 10:19 <{Demo}> attempting the balance patch now 10:19 <{Demo}> level_dificulty is always multiplied by 4 10:20 <{Demo}> gonna generate monsters in all rooms, instead of 1/3 of rooms 10:20 <@luxidream> big room will be hell 10:20 <{Demo}> true lmao 10:20 <{Demo}> lvl 20 bigroom 10:21 <@luxidream> Its already bad lmao 10:21 <{Demo}> 3 might be better 10:21 <{Demo}> lvl 15 bigroom seems more sane 10:21 dnethack question. I'm playing a drow - something, probably a yellow light, and when it wore off, I can't see in the dark anymore - everything looks like a room filled with light. I can invoke the darkness, but I don't want to have to do that for EVERY room from here on out. any ideas what happened or why I can't see right anymore? 10:21 <{Demo}> also archons NOT spawning sounds like a good thing 10:21 *something, probably a yellow light, exploded 10:22 !who 10:22 amateurhour: [hdf-us] rockedsocks [nh370] efw [nh370] tsingi [nh370] Merlek [nh370] oh6 [nh370] Leeroy [dnh] VaderFLAG [evil] hothraxxa [evil] Bourne [dyn] arnibald [dyn] RossinK [dyn] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] HarmathZsolt [slshm] Glord [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 10:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43386 10:24 <{Demo}> not sure how to buff player to be able to deal with more difficult monsters more quickly 10:24 <@luxidream> Free ea/ew 10:24 <@luxidream> Insane enchantment on floor items 10:25 [hdf-eu] [slshm] HarmathZsolt (Und Lyc Fem Cha), 2382 points, T:1191, killed by a wallaby 10:25 <@luxidream> increase arti generation just for fun 10:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 22291 points, T:3228, killed by an ettin mummy 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3915 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3915 10:26 <{Demo}> thought about arti gen up 10:26 <{Demo}> not gonna 10:26 <{Demo}> thought about insane enchantment on items generated with init 10:26 <{Demo}> that's gonna be an enemy buff as well 10:27 <{Demo}> "wearing a piece of armor enchants it to +5" "wielding a weapon enchants it to +7" 10:27 <{Demo}> idk 10:27 maybe hold off on that for now till playtesting 10:27 <{Demo}> gonna do it lmao 10:28 because it seemed fine as it was before for m- 10:28 lol nvm then 10:28 :P 10:28 <{Demo}> it was not fine balance wise before 10:28 <{Demo}> yall just played valks 10:28 I meant armour and weapon echant 10:28 yeah 10:29 <{Demo}> gonna take FOREVER 10:29 <{Demo}> play a healer, i dare you 10:29 <{Demo}> pretend those sent in the other order 10:29 * amateurhour pretends 10:30 <@luxidream> Also is vlad ls still there 10:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:43554 10:31 yeah candles were added to Vlad's 10:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 3224 points, T:1258, quit 10:36 anyone have any thoughts on why my drow in dnethack now thinks everything is a lightened room? 10:37 I've not played a drow so idk, Demo and microlance have recently 10:39 it's annoying as hell - used to have a sight radius of 2, now it's zero unless invoked darkness 10:41 any lightsources on you? 10:42 I don't think so 10:42 unless this explosion added on to me 10:42 *one to me 10:43 the rooms could just be lit I guess? 10:47 rooms that previously were unlit no longer are, though 10:50 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 10:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6834 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3647 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3659 10:51 <{Demo}> i havent been drowing 10:51 <{Demo}> +3 and +5 btw, not +5 and +7 10:51 <{Demo}> and need to shorten skill training and abuse/excercise timers 10:52 ah yeah good idea 10:56 [hdf-us] [dyn] Fortres (RossinK) (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1119 points, T:1172, killed by a giant bat 11:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4753 11:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:14066 11:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:5790 11:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:32053 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10444 11:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:38701 11:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:32768 11:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed Daemon, on T:44247 11:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed Glasya, on T:44352 11:38 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 11:43 google is being very unhelpful right now 11:44 so I wanted to check what latin order was the most common for HRE (holy roman empire), because I'm fairly sure wikipedia's SIR is wrong 11:44 so I checked all 3 variants I've seen at least once (SRI, IRS, SIR) 11:44 to see what gave most resuolts 11:44 *results 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8039 11:45 but when searching for SRI, Google gives me something else completely and doesn't even bother telling me how many results there was 11:45 thanks a lot 11:45 -!- qt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:48 figured out a work-around 11:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:45015 11:52 -!- Disruptor43 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:56 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:13972 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4781 points, T:5081, quit 12:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:45154 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:26683 12:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Malcanthet, on T:45331 12:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34929 12:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34930 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:27639 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1773 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:40915 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:40916 12:19 <{Demo}> updated brevishack back up on nethack@dope.diddlydingusdu.de for a bit 12:19 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2617 12:21 oh snap 12:23 tfw no autoopen doors :( 12:23 <{Demo}> you wanna fix that? merge hardfought branch onto it but fix it so it still has some vars for where it goes as nao 12:23 <{Demo}> and submit a PR 12:23 <{Demo}> thanks 12:24 cool 12:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:35559 12:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:46330 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3576 12:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Famine, on T:46781 12:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Oona, on T:46788 12:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) averted death, on T:46823 12:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:46852 12:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Gno Fem Neu), 1473186 points, T:46862, killed by an Angel of Pan, while praying (with the Amulet) 12:36 goddamn it so close yet so far. 12:42 forgot no gloves and picked up cockatrice corpse, then fatfingered into lava 12:42 i am bad 12:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5562 12:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:51 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 1354 points, T:2518, done in by a jaguar 12:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:7198 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:7231 13:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Helios (Arc Hlf Fem Neu), 349 points, T:1155, killed by a large kobold 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Kos, on T:67523 13:08 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Val Dwa Fem Law), 166776 points, T:32631, killed by brainlessness 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:8447 13:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:8689 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:8703 13:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Helios (Val Swn Fem Law), 3139 points, T:2430, killed by a gnome 13:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Brd Vam Fem Neu) was given the Grandmaster's Robe, on T:42780 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 56503 points, T:9764, killed by a wounded elf-queen 13:25 fkn poison instadeath 13:26 :( 13:26 that's not very cash money 13:26 F 13:26 not very poggers, no 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:9635 13:26 also you are not bad 13:26 skin touching cockatrice is bad tho 13:27 I shoulda wished for a tin of green dragon meat or something 13:27 lol 13:27 Green DSM 4Head 13:27 my cloak was cursed by some lichyboi so couldn't upgrade armour really 13:27 boo 13:28 i am very tempted to playtest right now 13:28 do it 13:28 but i wanted to do more golang reading 13:28 all the cool kids are 13:28 before playing games 13:28 maybe 13:28 brb 13:28 we don't know when the lord will taketh it away 13:28 D: true 13:28 playtest? :3 13:29 tommo: Brevishack is back on server 13:29 ohhh weird never heard o that 13:29 ssh nethack@dope.diddlydingusdu.de 13:29 <{Demo}> poison instadeath should be killed i bet 13:29 tommo: i haven't tried it yet but it's a really fun concept 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:43436 13:29 tommo: the dungeon is reduced to 10 levels 13:29 cooool 13:29 -!- Agrius has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:30 <{Demo}> https://github.com/demogorgon22/brevishack/blob/3.4.3-nao/changelog.md 13:30 tommo: https://github.com/demogorgon22/brevishack/blob/3.4.3-nao/changelog.md 13:30 dammit 13:30 demo got there first 13:30 I really need to sort out my rc file 13:31 <{Demo}> is there even a way to do that? 13:34 ye i found it accidentally 13:34 i think u can copy/paste from wherever 13:34 nice 13:35 oh also rip your game earlier tommo :( 13:35 o, ya... 13:35 tommo: wanna see an epic astral splat? 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Kni Hum Mal Law), 182 points, T:522, killed by an uninjured dwarf 13:35 a nymph one-hit stole excal & body armor, then drank invis T_T 13:35 oof 13:36 tommo: https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/dumplog/aoei/1612047914.nh366.txt 13:36 i shouldn'ta wished for MR tho, i had geno id'd 13:36 shoulda got a marker 13:36 as always :P 13:37 noooo @splat 13:37 run from last night 13:37 i was on track to narrowly beat stenno's 3.6 pb 13:38 miskeyed a A on fire plane after detecting portals 13:38 lol I forgot it was 343 for a sec and tried scare monster for kaen 13:38 put everything into my boh including cancel wand 13:38 absoutely demolished 13:38 lost *everything*, check my invent in the dumplog: only armour, "oY, worn rings, bell of opening and oof left 13:38 tried to yolo astral somehow 13:38 it didn't work out 13:39 tommo: also i hate nymphs so much 13:39 you should have gone into the lava giving a thumbs up like in terminator 2 13:40 aosdict: lol 13:40 hahha 13:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:2916 13:40 "I'm out" 13:40 one time a nymph got like 7 items at once from me :c 13:40 :) 13:40 yea one of my games last night a nymph stole a craptonne of stuff too 13:41 the stop tabs start comin n they don't stop comin n they 13:41 i get so tilted, esp if i have no telepathy or ranged attack 13:41 tommo: hahahhaha 13:41 <{Demo}> u ran a monk with 9 co 13:41 <{Demo}> wow 13:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3021 13:42 im gonna do one brevishack run now 13:42 samee 13:42 is there a separate irc channel? 13:42 <{Demo}> no cause it isnt real 13:42 *boggles* 13:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 3687 points, T:2805, killed by a crow 13:44 its just very new and wip and Demo is not sufficiently proud of his amazing creation 13:45 I'm trying brevishack now 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 33355 points, T:2081, killed by a bugbear 13:45 oooo {Demo}, ty 4 this gift :3 13:46 !rng @role 13:46 aoei: !rng thomas richard harold ; !rng do dishes|play nethack ; !rng 1-100 13:46 wat 13:46 !rng valk | wiz | barb 13:46 aoei: wiz 13:47 im assuming alpha is the one to play 13:47 and prealpha is the old one 13:48 "Play brevishack prealpha" 13:49 oh lol i didn't read it properly 13:49 alpha is notdnethack 13:49 brevishack is prealpha 13:50 i can't open doors T_T 13:50 since it's 343 based i might have to go look up my old 343 rcfile 13:50 just playing default settings for now 13:50 i don't think there's an autoopen setting in 3.4.3 13:50 am sad 13:51 there isn't 13:51 <{Demo}> use o to open doors 13:52 [hdf-eu] [nh343] stenno (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 18 points, T:11, choked on a foo_bar 13:52 damn 13:52 <{Demo}> what was that supposed to do stenno? 13:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Tsolekh (Bin Orc Mal Non), 0 points, T:20, killed by a grid bug 13:52 : gets replaced with _ 13:53 <{Demo}> heres what i see https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/805510988895354890/unknown.png 13:53 yes 13:53 : gets replaced with _ 13:54 food name was actually foo:bar 13:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:5323 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 12717 points, T:476, quit 13:55 wat r id scrolls 4 :c 13:55 mb get :3 13:57 {Demo}: where should we shout bugs? 13:58 wanted to buy dogecoin at 0.01 euro, now i am stuck at verification process for two days and dogecoin is at 0.035 13:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 3200 points, T:2863, killed by a gnome 13:59 mmm I seem to have a minetown without an altar 13:59 (temple) 13:59 ( a useful item (pick-axe, key, lamp...) (potion of levitationkey) 14:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 106 points, T:381, killed by a newt 14:02 dogecoin shot way up didnt it 14:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:33394 14:03 was 0.007 usd shot up to 0.07 now at 0.03 14:04 {Demo}: i think, the "potion of levitation" prefix is occurring the first time i farlook an item that hasn't been id'd yet 14:04 the second time i farlook, it shows up as skeleton key, same with other skeleton keys i haven't interacted with yet. 14:04 <{Demo}> there is no id 14:04 i want to buy it 14:04 but i can't 14:04 because the verification process which is supposed to take 4-5 minutes takes several days instead 14:04 i mied some at the very beginning 14:04 mined 14:05 all the money is lost 14:05 had something like 5000 coins 14:05 right i understand that, but it's only the first farlook that prints out "potion of watever" for me 14:05 cashed it in for something like 75 cents 14:05 i want to buy about 1000 14:05 lol 14:05 there is no actual potion on those squares 14:05 lmao 14:05 i wished for GDSM by mistake 14:05 still need reflection 14:05 now i have to watch the course go up and up and i cannot do anything 14:05 whoops 14:05 its enraging 14:06 i have 3 MR sources now lmao 14:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6693 14:06 already could have tripled my investment 14:06 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 14:06 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 14:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Helios (Sam Hum Fem Law), 182 points, T:2280, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 16484 points, T:865, killed by a small mimic 14:07 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 14:08 10000* 14:08 -!- elenmirie___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:08 anyone jump on that gamestop bandwagon? 14:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4313 points, T:6901, killed by a leocrotta 14:09 oh snap i just checked, XRP is up to 0.45 USD 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had a pair of walking shoes entrusted to her by Kos, on T:68879 14:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:12 checked now, dogecoin had 60% increase in the last 24 hours 14:13 i've been holding onto some XRP for awhile now 14:13 it just needs to hit 100 usd 14:13 :P 14:14 so if my investment was 250 euro, i lost 150 euro 14:14 its not the world 14:14 right 14:14 <@the_eternal_paradox> hi I managed to make another program in disorder 14:14 its still annoying 14:14 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/805516357926912020/Screen_Shot_2021-01-31_at_2.13.55_PM.png 14:14 cryptocurrency, stock market, et al - its all a gambling scheme. dont play with more than you can afford to lose 14:15 yeah no worries lol 14:15 oops im at castle 14:15 i did it a year or two ago 14:15 i shoulda done quest first 14:15 @the_eternal_paradox what did you do leading up to that panic message 14:16 every day I regret not buying BTC back in 2012~2013 14:16 <@the_eternal_paradox> I just read a scroll of fire 14:17 ^ aosdict 14:17 nabru i still have some BTC left over from when i was mining it 14:17 still holding 14:17 <@the_eternal_paradox> things that got burned were me, my shield, my kitten, the door, and nothing else really 14:17 <@the_eternal_paradox> oh wait I had two potions of water on me but they were untouched 14:17 <@the_eternal_paradox> somehow 14:17 hmm 14:19 nabru: well i regret not buying apple 20 years ago 14:19 things like that are stupid 14:19 i regret not getting the lottery numbers right 14:20 stenno: Well said 14:21 IT's a bit like looking at the flop in poker after you (correctly) folded your hand, and then thinking "Well, damn, I should have stayed in" 14:21 i think teh lego my parents bought me as a kid is a better investment 14:22 my sister seems to want to become a mother though and then all the lego goes to her lol 14:23 lol, i tried to get my legos from my parents too. and they were like 'well, we should save these for grandchildren' 14:23 yeah like that 14:23 also i would feel bad 14:23 i need to clean the legos and build all the old models 14:23 they prolly didn't even buy most of those, cuz we were fairly broke. more likely were gifts from grandparents 14:23 had really good stuff 14:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:3034 14:25 could buy all the single parts required to build the models again which we destroyed as children 14:26 maybe thats better than buying fucking dogecoin 14:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3334 14:26 so my nephew or niece can enjoy their lego 14:26 (tentative) 14:27 I threw some money into a boring index fund at the end of friday when I saw the markets were selling off 14:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4286 14:29 Yeenoghu brought me the amulet, thx yeenybby 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:69532 14:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5591 14:31 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 14:32 are index funds wise during those times 14:33 absent some regulatory action against index funds, I don't see why not 14:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5894 14:33 they tend to do better than actively managed funds, and with lower fees 14:33 !who 14:33 luxidream: [hdf-us] Hrnn [nh370] tsingi [nh370] Disruptor [dnh] ZlojSerge [nh4] wintergalaxy88 [xnh] hothraxxa [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] qt [evil] telegarn [evil] arnibald [dyn] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] AlbertB [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:36 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:36 lol brevishack is really fun 14:36 wiz is so op tho 14:36 i died T_T 14:36 I'm in astral now 14:36 i have castle wand first game 14:37 wand is 1:3 and i have SDSM + CoMR + BoH + the Eye 14:37 belzenlok killed me cuz i forgot to read spellbooks 14:37 im also level 30 crowned spamming FoD like a motherfucker 14:37 i found a conflict ring oin the ground tho 14:37 that helps 14:37 lv30 is trivial tho right? 14:37 like as after 14, its 1 lvl per kill? 14:37 is it? XD 14:38 like, it was fast 14:38 idk if it was every kill tho 14:38 it was 4 me! 14:38 <{Demo}> too fast? 14:38 maybe Demo 14:38 it was weird for priest cuz the quest lvl has so many wraiths 14:38 but it is kinda fun reaching xl30 on quest goal 14:38 but ya, still fun 14:38 <{Demo}> amateurhour has a rocky road ahead of him 14:39 i've spent 30 mins playing and i just beat castle 14:39 30 mins or so i think anyway 14:39 but this is my first try at the game 14:39 im sure i can get it down to 15 min asc as the creator intended 14:39 <{Demo}> it's hard to believe the creator intended anything sometimes 14:39 is that how long you want brevishack to be? 14:39 <{Demo}> 30-60 14:39 <{Demo}> apparently 14:39 <{Demo}> according to the top of the changelog 14:40 also i took the time to sacfest on dl1 for writing unknown scrolls/books 14:40 which reminds me, I can write books now 14:40 i should do that 14:40 when i resume play after a break 14:40 <{Demo}> theres a luckstone on minetown altar you may want to hold luck up 14:40 brevishack is really intense and fast paced :D 14:41 ima try monk, get that shock resistance intrinsic early :3 14:42 <{Demo}> i wonder if ascension even works 14:42 ascended 14:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Mal Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:6970 14:42 <{Demo}> traitor 14:42 used hooa though 14:42 so that's cheating 14:42 >:[ 14:42 no 14:43 but I reckon I coulda made it to grand tour 14:43 <{Demo}> yeah, let it write the xlog so i can paste it lol 14:43 what is realtime 14:43 <{Demo}> version=3.4.3:points=1189628:deathdnum=6:deathlev=-2:maxlvl=10:hp=120:maxhp=214:deaths=0:deathdate=20210131:birthdate=20210131:uid=5:role=Val:race=Dwa:gender=Fem:align=Cha:name=amateur420:death=ascended:flags=0x0:conduct=0x188:turns=4680:achieve=0x1ff:realtime=3720:starttime=1612118474:endtime=1612122204:gender0=Fem:align0=Law 14:43 1h2 14:43 WORLD RECORD BAYBEEEE 14:43 wiz is crazy op in brevishack because fast XL gain buffs pw regen til you reach xl30 14:44 by which time you have the eye probably 14:44 so you can spam force bolt loads 14:44 tommo: monk is horrendous in brevishack 14:44 and then crown for FoD and resists 14:44 in first version of brevishack wiz sucked 14:44 whyy 14:44 you had no armor lol 14:44 everyone else gets +5 weapons easily, you're left with martial arts which sucks 14:44 punch to victory 14:44 i will succeed! 14:44 maybe martial arts buff? 14:44 insta gm 14:44 Demo^ 14:45 why not use a +5 weapon on yer monk? 14:45 and master kaen seems to wake up instantly 14:45 so you're just dead 14:45 lol 14:45 spicycebolla: lol thats actually a way better idea 14:45 wait weapon training is the same though 14:45 so it will take forever 14:45 <{Demo}> skill training and abuse training need to be masaged 14:45 -!- squolly has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:45 I am the current brevishack world record holder, AMA 14:45 amateurhour: i think i can do sub-1h with this game 14:46 depends how long i've been playing 14:46 i beat castle in about 30 minutes or so 14:46 teh rest hopefully doesnt take long 14:46 I think I went for dinner in the middle 14:46 lol 14:46 did you not save? 14:46 lol 14:46 yeah, does the xlog count that? 14:46 teh realtime field is only while game is open 14:46 oh no I didn't, that was the death before, ignore 14:46 if you didn't save realtime keeps going 14:47 ^ 14:47 I am just slow ignore everything 14:47 :D 14:47 wallclock keeps going whether you save or not 14:47 okey 14:47 <{Demo}> i didnt even know there was a relatime field 14:47 brb, cig 14:47 then more brevishack 14:47 hopefully i can get that sub-1h ascension i always wanted 14:47 anyways poison resistance is optional, didn't have it 14:47 lol 14:47 amateurhour: i ascended vanilla without intrinsic pr a bunch of times 14:47 what is the address again 14:47 to play 14:48 ssh nethack@dope.diddlydingusdu.de 14:48 ssh nethack@dope.diddlydingusdu.de 14:48 oh it's dope 14:48 ok 14:48 you sly dog you were 1 second faster than me 14:48 thanks 14:48 Diddly Dingus! 14:48 ora ora, you're approaching me? 14:48 * Deathsushi farlooks Diddly Dingus 14:48 * Deathsushi immediately engraves Elbereth with a wand of fire. 14:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Arc Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5174 14:48 * Deathsushi gets diddled by the Dingus, who does not respect Elbereth 14:48 Demo this game is awesome tysm <3 14:48 yeee 14:48 nabru probs gonna ascend next 14:49 yep 14:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:5263 14:49 also props for removing sokoban entirely 14:50 scumming for con luxi? 14:50 <{Demo}> thanks 14:50 <{Demo}> still needs a lot of work 14:50 yea but we can help you by playtesting :> 14:50 i think wiz currently is crazy op 14:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:5322 14:50 not sure what to do about that tho 14:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Arc Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:5325 14:50 nothing, embrace insanity 14:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Arc Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a sling named uc on an altar, on T:5327 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 154 points, T:511, killed by a magic missile, while jumping around 14:51 brevishack for junethack! 14:53 You Have to Grab the Amulet and Go Upstairs 14:53 rip 14:53 that was... intense 14:53 what happened? ( 14:53 it's super intense lol 14:54 :( 14:54 monster generation is amped up i assume? 14:54 amateurhour: got overwhelmed and died 14:54 F 14:54 can we get excal on first dip 14:54 no 14:54 also I got owned 14:54 What are y'all watching? 14:54 ... 14:54 i forgot my password demo pls halp 14:54 <{Demo}> no 14:54 we're playing the Hot New Variant brevishack which is nethack condensed down to like 10 mins 14:55 (supposedly) 14:55 Holy mackeral 14:55 Super Nethack Fighter Turbo Edition 14:55 world record holder has a time of 1h02m and is a really cool dude with giant muscles irl 14:55 ^ 14:56 Cool dude + Giant muscles is redundant 14:57 https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/562/650/cd0.jpg 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 23504 points, T:11336, quit 14:59 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1093 14:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8290 15:00 {Demo}: The dwarf swings her spellbook of create monsterbroad pick. The dwarf hits! 15:00 see what i mean? 15:00 epick 15:00 amateurhour ascended brevishack! 15:01 anyone else yet? 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 824 points, T:1006, killed by a wounded gnome 15:01 I tried a game as monk and it was pretty awful, though maybe with +5 stormbringer at basic it'd be alright? not sure 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:45623 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12788 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Bar Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:17827 15:04 at 6 str 14 con i got no problem w encumbrance 15:04 yeee 15:04 Demo the valley of the dead is the slowest part probs 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 136 points, T:377, killed by an exploding chest 15:05 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Arc Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5797 15:07 <{Demo}> whys it slow? 15:07 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had an apron entrusted to her by Set, on T:8486 15:08 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 15:12 amateurhour: That photo you posted is classic nethack player right there. That's how I imagine all of you 15:13 <{Demo}> why is luxi botting around juib? 15:14 I don't know where vlad is 15:14 looking for it 15:14 can you help demo 15:14 where tf is it 15:14 <{Demo}> read the changelog 15:14 <{Demo}> go up a lvl 15:14 <{Demo}> it branches from there 15:14 <{Demo}> vibe square is center of juib 15:14 <{Demo}> wiz portal is on juibs 15:15 oh that'd be cool 15:15 the vibe square being inside juiblex 15:15 Can you link me the changelog Demo? 15:15 ... i wonder if boxes r viable containers 15:16 i got this ice box n im barely burdened 15:16 <{Demo}> https://github.com/demogorgon22/brevishack/blob/3.4.3-nao/changelog.md 15:16 Great 15:16 Thank you 15:16 <{Demo}> lol luxi vs 343 vlad 15:16 <{Demo}> vladbane vlad 15:17 everyone playing brevishack now 15:17 Huh, this is a cool idea 15:17 {Demo}: I think your Gehennom design is the second bestest Gehennom design I've ever seen 15:17 "Player has double carrying capacity to discourage as much inventory management time wasted" 15:17 I dig that 15:18 short and to the point 15:18 There are things we learn to love in NetHack (like inventory management) but once removed are kind of like "Oh, this is pretty rad not having to do that after all" 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:46431 15:18 <{Demo}> needs more alternative demon lairs 15:18 <{Demo}> need to steal some from variants 15:18 i like to think that it was me who came up with the idea of brevishack 15:18 but i don't remember the details anymore 15:18 <{Demo}> its something ive been talking about for years 15:18 i was def. present at its inception 15:19 u can make a LOT of cash by wielding darts then sellin em 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Scruffy, his faithful little dog, on T:692 15:20 midas touch 15:21 <{Demo}> lol rip luxi 15:21 <{Demo}> he got water 15:21 <{Demo}> also don't save on water, I think it might be broken 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1358 points, T:3794, zombified by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:21 <{Demo}> nao guys fault i think? 15:21 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3796 15:21 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3796 15:22 <{Demo}> maybe vanilla bug idk 15:22 that's a very old 3.4.3 bug 15:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:22 <{Demo}> stupid 15:22 <{Demo}> well its fixed in nao-hdf 343 15:22 gg 15:22 u can get un-id'd water by diluting 15:22 iNethack2 suffers from it too 15:23 <{Demo}> version=3.4.3:points=847162:deathdnum=6:deathlev=-2:maxlvl=10:hp=159:maxhp=159:deaths=0:deathdate=20210131:birthdate=20210131:uid=5:role=Val:race=Dwa:gender=Fem:align=Law:name=luxidream:death=ascended:flags=0x0:conduct=0x500:turns=5683:achieve=0x1ff:realtime=1692:starttime=1612122867:endtime=1612124560:gender0=Fem:align0=Law 15:23 congrats luxidream! 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 32 points, T:74, killed by a dart 15:23 still better equipped than most valk speedruns 15:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:30308 15:23 <{Demo}> whats the time? 15:23 <{Demo}> i dont speak realtime 15:23 (actually, i dropped the water n picked it up, still not id'd) 15:24 28.2 minutes? 15:24 no 15:24 <{Demo}> i hope so 15:24 3600 is one hour 15:24 so yeah actually 15:24 divided by 60 under the assumption that it would work 15:25 <{Demo}> so the fastest nethack player ever did it in under 30 minutes, and allegedly its intended to be 30-60 minutes 15:25 <{Demo}> so i think pacing is close to right 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:14393 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:70055 15:27 Nice for quick first to ascend duels! 15:27 that's a brevishack entry? 15:27 <{Demo}> the xlog, yes 15:27 30 minutes sounds extremely long for a player like luxidream 15:27 was he sight seeing? 15:28 every time i see a log line like that with Fem i'm surprised the next field isn't Shep 15:28 <{Demo}> that was his first time ascending i thik 15:28 He didn't yet know where Vlad was? 15:28 Next run will be faster 15:28 right, needed info on whereabouts of vlad, vibe 15:28 and got water 15:30 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:30 <{Demo}> might make corpses always give all trinsics 15:31 we need fixed seed for brevishack 15:31 fixed seed option 15:31 he's tryna find the quest portal now 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:70264 15:33 These disenchanters... I do not like these 15:35 <{Demo}> http://dope.diddlydingusdu.de/brevisxlogfile.txt for seeing xlog entries 15:35 gratz luxidream!! 15:36 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:38 how's the games going? 15:39 <{Demo}> aoei is on astral 15:41 Should I ID my magic marker before writing too many scrolls, so as to know how many charges it has and ensure I don't forget to write a recharge? 15:41 ascended 15:41 congrats aoei! 15:41 demo wahts the xlog file say 15:41 <{Demo}> version=3.4.3:points=987354:deathdnum=6:deathlev=-2:maxlvl=10:hp=107:maxhp=107:deaths=0:deathdate=20210131:birthdate=20210131:uid=5:role=Wiz:race=Elf:gender=Fem:align=Cha:name=aoei:death=ascended:flags=0x0:conduct=0x400:turns=8740:achieve=0x1ff:realtime=5333:starttime=1612119179:endtime=1612125676:gender0=Fem:align0=Cha 15:41 a-hour was faster 15:42 gotta up my game 15:42 !rng valk | wiz 15:42 aoei: valk 15:43 <{Demo}> knight seems interesting to me 15:43 <{Demo}> they start with -8 ac 15:43 hahaha 15:43 op 15:43 rogue, tho 15:43 does pettype:none work in 343? 15:43 with multishot n +5 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:13, killed by an uninjured goblin 15:44 <{Demo}> how does rogue do quest? 15:44 actually i never got that far haha 15:44 idk the quest 15:44 gratz aoei ! 15:44 ty 15:44 <{Demo}> ew, water again for luxi 15:45 im never going back to vanilla 15:45 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:46 yay 15:46 oh yeah? if brevishack is so great then why is there no brevishack 2? 15:46 <{Demo}> version=3.4.3:points=697712:deathdnum=6:deathlev=-2:maxlvl=10:hp=234:maxhp=234:deaths=0:deathdate=20210131:birthdate=20210131:uid=5:role=Val:race=Dwa:gender=Fem:align=Cha:name=luxidream:death=ascended:flags=0x0:conduct=0x580:turns=5489:achieve=0x1ff:realtime=1268:starttime=1612124706:endtime=1612125974:gender0=Fem:align0=Law 15:46 bleh 15:46 \o/ 15:46 gratz luxidream again! 15:46 I keep hitting enter and running down 15:46 <{Demo}> 21.1333 minutes, not sub 20 :P 15:47 <{Demo}> yeah the game might be too long still 15:47 Demo what are new crowning rules? 15:47 maybe wiz is mvp 15:47 "enter = Ctrl-J" is hard to fix in a terminal 15:47 there might be a way to map it to Ctrl-M instead, but I'm not sure on that 15:47 <{Demo}> crowned on first head pat after picking up QA 15:47 ais523: 3.6 makes it ^M 15:47 oon curses 15:47 but not on tty 15:48 What's the best confusion source as I attempt to ascend and find portals? 15:48 Is it potions of booze? 15:48 (As Valk) 15:48 I guess potions of confusion would do the trick too 15:48 forgotten spell if you remembered to learn one ages ago 15:48 No spells learned 15:48 tripe rations, old eggs 15:48 Tripe? really? that's better than potions 15:48 Are they guaranteed? 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:47761 15:49 the potions are better 15:49 K 15:49 tripe is only 50% 15:49 I suppose I should have saved some of these potions :D 15:50 demo: it's not that it's too long 15:50 it's just that most of my time spent is holding down buttons through things 15:50 ooh, Enter has a unique code in application keys mode 15:50 but the key you're probably hitting by mistake is Return? 15:50 do you mean messages you can press esc to skip all of luxi? or something else 15:50 <{Demo}> maybe nethack has too many buttons to ever have it really go fast 15:51 ais523: I hit return a lot when playing with curses because it's easier to reach than esc 15:51 and it's safer, for things like poly prompts 15:51 when I go to play tty that means I hit enter a lot and run towards the bottom of the screen 15:51 right, what I mean is, when we're messing with accidental key misinterpretations it matters what physical key you're pressing 15:51 i.e. Return on the main keyboard versus Enter on the numeric keypad 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:70879 15:51 Return on the main keyboard 15:52 I'm trying to figure out how you configure Return to Ctrl-M versus Ctrl-J (versus something else) 15:53 oh, maybe it's -icrnl on termios 15:53 when I play NH4 on hardfought, it takes return as ^M 15:54 changed my mind gonna run wiz again 15:54 rogue still winnable with cursed invis i think 15:54 yes, looks like libuncursed is forcing -icrnl 15:54 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 15:55 so it seems like the terminal unconditonally sends ^M, but the OS by default translates that to ^J (which is what most Unix programs expect to see as newline) so that programs work 15:55 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6317 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 16 points, T:145, killed by an uninjured newt 15:56 NetHack win/tty appears to not change termios settings at all 15:56 perhaps the best place to fix this would be in dgamelaunch 15:56 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:6526 15:56 (although I'm not sure whether dgamelaunch itself understands ^M as newline) 15:57 I think most people have learned to play around it and use space to clear lines 15:57 either that or add an option to make the termios state sane to vanilla win/tty (in vanilla, I think this has to be an option, because for all I know people are playing NetHack on weird physical terminals that need weird termios settings to function) 15:58 I'm one of the few players who find it frustrating 15:58 luxidream: well, that isn't a reason to not fix it 15:58 just, the fix is in a part of the terminal communications that win/tty has historically considered out of scope 15:59 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:59 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Magician, on T:6656 16:00 btw, if you're playing NetHack locally on a Linux/UNIX-based OS, you can run "stty -icrnl" in order to get Return-as-^M behaviour, then start NetHack 16:01 (bear in mind that this will partially break programs that expect newline to be ^J: you will need to type the ^J manually) 16:01 does anyone happen to know... if ur carrying a troll corpse, can it revive while ur engulfed? 16:01 this won't help for online play though 16:03 tommo: I don't know but would expect that it would revive and then enexto() to whatever space it can land on outside you and the engulfer 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:5314 16:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hum Mal Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:35447 16:03 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:6837 16:04 ooo 16:04 interestin 16:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11921 16:05 YANI: When you're hit by a digestion attack, carried corpses in open inventory may be instantly digested by the monster and vanish 16:05 or even better, they get progressively partly eaten 16:05 I've been looking at the code to try to answer tommo's question 16:05 most of the cases look OK 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4670 16:05 ais523: wizmode is probably faster than source dive here 16:06 :3 16:06 ais523: why is it out of scope of tty but not curses? 16:06 eli5 16:06 however, there seems to be potential trouble if the reviving monster is a Rider corpse 16:06 i almost had a testcase but i missed my chance by 1 turn 16:06 luxidream: curses takes ownership of the terminal configuration, tty doesn't 16:06 I'm not sure whether this was an intentional choice by tty (I know it was an intentional choice by curses) 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5025 16:07 in general tty seems to have been written to have as little understanding of how the terminal works as possible, presumably for portability reasons; that may be why it doesn't try to reconfigure it 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2869 points, T:5205, killed by a bolt of cold 16:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 18870 points, T:12093, killed by a wounded leocrotta, while praying 16:09 changing terminal settings also tends to run the risk of annoying people who want to set particular settings manually and know how to make sure they're correct in advance 16:10 <{Demo}> hey ais523, what's it called when I am trying to play nethack but instead of redrawing the screen, it just types my input characters at the cursor 16:10 <{Demo}> and I have to hit enter for it to read and interpret them? 16:10 {Demo}: the terminal is not in raw mode 16:11 I think "cooked mode" is the normal term, presumably a pun on "not raw" 16:11 <{Demo}> ok so there is a word for it 16:11 <{Demo}> i'm trying to play nh1.3d and it is in cooked mode :( 16:11 does ctrl-Z open a shell in 1.3d? 16:11 err, not open, suspend to shell 16:11 <{Demo}> oh, locally 16:11 suspending to the shell, then resuming the game, is a good way to reset that sort of setting 16:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:36204 16:12 <{Demo}> tried, still cooked 16:12 heh, I always found stty raw and stty cooked funny 16:13 …actually, I have no idea where even modern NetHack sets the terminal into raw mode 16:13 I assumed that win/tty was doing it but I can't find where 16:13 <{Demo}> ah, ok 16:13 <{Demo}> so bad windowport problems 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10192 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:4426 16:15 ooh, it's in sys/share/ioctl.c 16:15 no wonder I couldn't find it 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had an axe entrusted to her by Set, on T:10334 16:16 <{Demo}> that one is real short for nh1.3d 16:17 ugh, but that's just the code for restoring the terminal settings when you suspend, I still can't find the code that changes them when you open the program 16:18 <{Demo}> i blame wsl 16:18 aha, sys/share/unixtty.c 16:20 that's where the terminal's being set into raw mode 16:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:37062 16:21 it looks like it only happens once, when the program is opened, so saving and reloading might help fix cooked-mode issues in 3.7 (and probably this code hasn't changed much since 1.3d) 16:21 <{Demo}> nothing works 16:22 <{Demo}> whenevr I launch, regardless, it is always cooked 16:22 <{Demo}> "Hack (settty): Inappropriate ioctl for device" oh wait i have an error it bitches about that is very relevant 16:22 yes, that looks relevant 16:22 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 16:22 do you have any sort of wrapper around NetHack 1.3d, or is it connected to any sort of pipeline? 16:23 NetHack appears to be using filehandle 0 to do its terminal configuration, assuming that it's your terminal 16:23 and 0 is standard input 16:23 <{Demo}> no, just running the elf directly 16:24 try running stty from the same terminal you're running NetHack from 16:24 and see if it gives sensible output 16:24 <{Demo}> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/805549095859126282/unknown.png 16:25 that looks sensible to me (although it's misinterpreting what the eols mean, that isn't relevant here) 16:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 704 points, T:1619, killed by an explosion 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:10575 16:26 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:7384 16:26 <{Demo}> definitely WSL's fault somehow 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1837 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 696 points, T:1844, killed by a heavily wounded small mimic 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:71322 16:28 ooh, maybe WSL has implemented TCGETS but not TCSETS, that would make a lot of sense 16:28 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:29 because it's easy enough to just lock the terminal settings and tell programs what they are, but actually reconfiguring the OS's terminal handler is hard if you're on a different OS 16:29 or maybe only certain TCSETS options are supported and NetHack 1.3d is trying to set one that isn't, assuming it exists on all Unices 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by naming Sting, on T:5500 16:29 (at the same time as setting raw mode) 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:71364 16:30 <{Demo}> idk who wrote this windowport 16:30 this is unlikely to be easy to fix, you'd have to try changing the terminal configuration one bit at a time to see which bits it didn't like 16:31 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 16:31 <{Demo}> well, thanks, at least I have some idea what is likely wrong now 16:32 <{Demo}> there's a good chance on newer wsl it might just end up working 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12433 16:35 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:38427 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:8838 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 8860 points, T:8852, killed by a werewolf 16:38 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7278 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1761 points, T:2789, killed by a wounded owlbear 16:44 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Leggman's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:6095 16:45 -!- arahael2 is now known as arahael 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:6168 16:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:21201 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:6375 16:48 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:49 F 16:49 didn't realise i was already depolyd when i tried to heal 16:49 neutral altar 16:50 sub-1h woulda won if id got lucky with the high altar 16:50 what 16:50 which variant? 16:50 brevis lol 16:50 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9735 16:50 i got depoly'd from mmf 16:50 somewhere near high altar 16:50 you were so stacked lol 16:50 yeah i was 16:50 i wasn't paying attenion 16:51 should not have died there 16:51 could also taken off conflict 16:51 the high priests are peaceful 16:51 p sure high priest killed me 16:51 F 16:52 Can't open /dgldir/userdata/j/jt/dumplog/1612115526.nh343.txt for output. 16:52 :( 16:52 will run it back in a minute i think 16:52 brevis is super fun lol 16:52 <{Demo}> http://dope.diddlydingusdu.de/brevisxlogfile.txt 16:52 <{Demo}> only xlog no dumplogs 16:52 <{Demo}> or livelogs 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Bar Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Reaver, on T:18177 16:53 <{Demo}> if you want nice things, wait a bit for it to be finished and get someone running a real nethack server to host brevishack 16:53 anyway I ascended 16:53 why no dumplogs? you're basing it on hdf 3.4.3-nao version? 16:53 <{Demo}> hell yeah 16:53 <{Demo}> the code exists for it, the server just isn't configured for it 16:53 ah, okay 16:53 brevishack for jnh 16:53 it's balanced because no medusa 16:53 congrats jilles! 16:54 it would actually be a pretty good fit for junethack I think 16:54 lmao 16:54 Medusa is imba? first I ever heard 16:54 lux has the record with 21 minutes 16:54 although I don't know much about it 16:54 bhaak: lack of medusa helps balance brevis is what he means i guess 16:54 you might have to change the scoring but this happens a lot at junethack 16:54 no because jnh gives points for killing medusa 16:54 ah, that 16:55 you're doing it wrong 16:55 for example, the "most unique death messages" thing was kind-of broken by a lot of variants, but now 3.7 breaks it too so it's pretty much beyond help 16:55 we don't think ahead with junethack 16:55 we add stuff and variants and fix it afterwards. that's more fun 16:55 well junebrevis where everyone farms out wins is too easy :) 16:56 brevis is not very hard right now 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2196 16:56 you could exclude brevis from quantity-based trophies and things would be fine, I think 16:56 overcomplicated cross-variant z-scoring algorithm for junethack when 16:56 only after everybody has exploited brevis so hard that they are sick of it 16:56 the real test of brevis is if it still takes a decade to win unspoiled :-D 16:57 probably not 16:57 you can get away with not having MR 16:57 if you're lucky 16:57 you can do that in vanilla too 16:57 right, but there are more polytraps to step on, more opportunities for the wizard to appear 16:57 etc 16:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:21326 16:58 you don't have to get as lucky 16:58 !rng rng it back with wiz | play valk 16:58 aoei: play valk 16:58 I know there was an MRless ascension which relied mostly on potions of hallu for touch of death resistance 16:58 for that I'd probably be undead 16:58 hallu bothers me too much 16:59 yes, unliving + polycontrol would fix most of the showstopper issues with not having MR 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had a spear entrusted to her by Set, on T:12177 16:59 although, there are still a lot of lategame attacks that people never see because MR blocks them 16:59 in junethack 2019 we (ootc) did use hallu to slime the wizard though 16:59 and nobody sane goes into the late game without MR 16:59 since green slimes can't wear armor 17:00 Hi. 17:00 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 17:00 What I miss. 17:01 incidentally, reflection does seem to be genuinely optional late-game 17:01 the only two reflectable attacks that you won't be naturally guarding against are blue dragon breath and black dragon breath 17:01 both of which are fixed by genociding D 17:01 wands of lightning 17:01 6 17:01 *^ 17:02 ah right, yes 17:02 although most of the time I won't have many wands or rings in open inventory anyway 17:02 and wands of lightning are rare 17:02 so I've had good luck simply dodging them 17:03 at -30 it only has a ~20% chance of hitting you 17:03 so it's not too bad for normal games I suppose 17:03 unless I'm playing containerless I don't generally keep valuable wands in open inventory 17:03 nor the important rings 17:04 there are lots of less-important rings but I don't mind losing those 17:04 I don't like to potentially lose conflict to priest lightning 17:04 on astral or sanctum 17:05 and you will want to use conflict there 17:05 I didn't realise that was a thing 17:05 at least, it's never happened to me in my reflectionless games 17:05 maybe I was taking a bigger risk than I thought 17:05 Is it important to keep things like a lizard corpse outside of my main bag of holding? 17:06 definitely keep a lizard corpse out 17:06 ^ 17:06 with a lizard corpse, you might get away with keeping it inside, but petrification timers are often very short and the turn spent removing it can matter 17:06 there is also a lightning bolt when you attack the high priest in melee, but you can prepare for that 17:06 Okay 17:06 Mix it, Deathsushi 17:06 and there is no reason to bag it, it's light and won't be destroyed by elemental attacks 17:06 That's what I thought 17:06 Couple corpses in, couple corpses out 17:06 got rekt 17:06 or when you attack the high priest in general 17:06 undead turning is a danger now 17:07 Any benchmark for food I should be bringing along for ascension? 17:07 it also helps you can technically get multiple uses out of a lizard corpse if you get interrupted, one bite is enough to stop stoning 17:07 I've got about 5 lembas wafers and 13 royal jelly 17:07 that should be enough I think 17:07 mostly lembas and I think K-rations? 17:07 royal jelly is better if you can get it 17:07 Okay 17:07 That should work, yeah 17:08 I have loads of it 17:08 In case you have Famine run-ins 17:08 it's often worth stashing a food ration on stairs somewhere in the upper dungeon 17:08 and just eating it to satiate yourself mid-run 17:08 my first astral splat was caused by eating a lump of royal jelly in preparation for taking on famine 17:08 the penalties for Satiated aren't going to come up before the end of the game 17:09 ^ 17:09 How did you do that hoth? 17:09 That would be gut wrenching! 17:09 Were you already satiated? 17:09 the four horsemen: pestilence, death, war, stunner 17:09 and if they do it's -1 Dex, and you have a means of restoring that easily by that point so 17:09 it made me pass out and famine and pestilence just beat the crap out of me while i was helpless 17:09 worst case you ascend with slightly diff. stats 17:09 oh yeah, reminder to bless your food also 17:10 no i wasn't satiated 17:10 decrease the chances of that 17:10 yes. decrease but not eliminate 17:10 can ghouls get bad effects from rotten food other than food poisoning? 17:10 isn't it just a 1/7 chance 17:10 of being rotten 17:10 (I know they're immune to food poisoning, but what about the others?) 17:10 unless it is cursed 17:11 I mean ghouls can only eat rotten food can't they? 17:11 luxi: i think that's right 17:11 so blessing the food doesn't really help 17:11 it just prevents it from becoming cursed 17:11 exactly 17:11 Fair 17:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:14257 17:12 Umbire: I'm fairly sure that's a variant race 17:12 splicehack 17:12 another sad story: was facing demogorgon, tried eating a eucalyptus leaf to cure illness without noticing he'd cursed it 17:12 in vanilla ghouls and vampires can chow down on rations 17:12 dead 17:12 F 17:13 rip 17:13 luxidream: I meant in vanilla, tho obvs. I'm thinking of pet ghouls in retrospect 17:13 figured polyform was congruent for no real reason 17:13 you can poly into ghoul in vanilla 17:13 but the only reason to do so is to cure fatal food poisoning when you have no better cures available 17:14 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2941 17:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9391 17:19 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:20 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 17:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3664 17:20 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 17:24 I'm just at the top of the Wizards tower about to kill his ass — can someone check my feet for me: 17:24 I know where the vibrating square is 17:25 I've got the bell, the candelabrum, 8 candles 17:25 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:25 I've got a bunch of royal jelly and lembas wafers, and I have three wands of death, one is 0:4 17:25 Anything else I need to do or take care of before I kill his ass and balls? 17:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed the invisible Warden Arianna, on T:15223 17:27 go ham u got this :3 17:27 race u? 17:27 lol no thank you :D 17:27 Should I have my wands of death outside of my BoH? 17:28 idk 17:28 i jus do 1 or 2 at a time 17:28 i always have at least one ready 17:28 depends on the charges 17:28 Deathsushi: And depends on how worried you are about nymphs and the like. 17:29 And wether you have shock resistance. 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4760 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3356 points, T:5806, killed by a giant cockroach 17:29 I do 17:29 Fuly resistance'd, including disintegration resistance, because #WhyNot 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4806 17:30 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4836 points, T:8002, killed by a heavily wounded wolf 17:30 lol im about 2 kill rodney n i dont even have slp resistance 17:31 so here's hopin that doesn't come up 17:31 >doesn't have sleep res 17:31 D: 17:31 hehe 17:31 ehhhh it'll b fiiiiine 17:31 Ehhhhhhhhhh 17:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:37257 17:31 yolo 17:32 sleep resistance doesn't matter 17:32 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 17:32 once you have reflection 17:32 o ya, no reflection either T_T 17:32 yolo 17:32 yeeee 17:32 That is a slightly bigger problem 17:33 oh wait it's brevis 17:33 yolo 17:33 yolo unless you're wearing "ols 17:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:35 haha ye 17:36 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) was given Kingslayer, on T:16863 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:72136 17:38 Alright, it's game on now 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:72142 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15027 17:41 {Demo}: i got hit by a mind flayer, and my inventory popped up like 10 times 17:41 i assume cuza re-identifying things 17:41 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 17:42 oops 17:43 need a break mebb 17:43 <{Demo}> ty 17:43 remove amnesia 17:43 mine crashed at some point btw demo 17:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu), 106027 points, T:12331, killed by a shark 17:44 right after choosing polyself form 17:44 <{Demo}> the changelog said I did 17:44 you got this Deathsushi 17:44 but it didn't repeat after restore 17:44 <{Demo}> but I guess I didn't 17:44 rip tommo 17:44 lightning'd 17:44 rip 17:44 <{Demo}> hey at least it has restore 17:44 lost wand of death 17:44 heck 17:44 i got really confused cuzi couldn't solve mastermind, there seemed to be a missing letter but maybe i was just being dumb 17:45 and then i just used bell of opening and got summonstormed, then meleed a chickatrice in mmf form lol 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4914 17:45 omf 17:45 i also did weird dumb stuff in that game like accidentally kill the mt priest 17:45 then sacced him 17:45 got converted to lawful lol 17:46 pre-quest but doens't matter in brevis lol 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:72372 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3190 17:49 from scrollback: Deathsushi's playing a valkyrie, so isn't a source of confusion not really needed? 17:49 Why isn't it needed? 17:50 in principle you can use the orb of fate to find the portals 17:50 Oh sweet 17:50 That's easier 17:50 So I can dump the candelabra and this other junk now, correct? 17:50 but orb of fate for some reason doesn't start with more than like 5 charges and you can fail to do it 17:51 yeah if you want to, though I keep the candelabrum for light source in sanctum and astral 17:51 {Demo}: just had brevishack crash on me when I drank a !oGL 17:51 the crystal ball will confuse you some of the time when it fails 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3299 17:51 didn't vanilla make it a lot better recently? 17:52 and they're on 3.7.0beta 17:52 Ye 17:52 <{Demo}> nabru, what dungeon level? 17:52 also, only Fire and Water really benefit from confused gold detection, you can use cursed gold detection on Earth and Air and get all the information you need 17:52 Should have a higher average of starting charges 17:52 {Demo}: 4 17:52 <{Demo}> whack 17:52 spicycebolla: the artifact crystal balls don't have the increased number of charges 17:53 prolly an oversight 17:53 managed to reproduce it, {Demo}. Drink the potion, get the "you feel more experienced" message, thrown to the main menu 17:53 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/28fb6fc67b40316356d7c6464e88cb611bf1b60a 17:53 amateurhour: oh dang, hmmm 17:53 int of 8 or more if it's your quest arti? 17:54 You drink a potion of gain level. You rise up, floating through the program window! 17:54 sweet, forgot the own-quest-arti thing, thanks for reminding 17:55 oh nice 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:72624 18:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44588 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:72628 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:16874 18:06 Now immediately name an individual object, and name it REAL right? 18:06 Yep 18:07 there are so many ways to distinguish a real amulet from a fake one that it's kind-of amusing seeing people focus so much on one in particular 18:07 but it's fine 18:08 i can only think of formal id and trying to put in a container 18:08 I guess it isn't surprising that the world's most powerful magical item has rather different effects from a cheap plastic imitation of itself 18:08 what else is there ais523 18:08 aoei: where/how it spawns (the naming trick Deathsushi is using); whether you get failing teleportations/the mysterious force 18:08 also some monsters will try to steal the Amulet, although this isn't recommended as a test for whether you have it or not 18:09 ais523: lack of mystery force a shit test too though 18:09 you can also attempt to c!oGL from dlvl 1 (this fails without a genuine Amulet and succeeds with it) 18:09 naming goes without saying yeah 18:09 ais523: that's also impractical 18:09 as is dropping it in water and freezing the water 18:09 well, the mysterious force test is something that happens naturally during a run 18:09 or dropping a boulde ron it 18:09 ais523: but it only has a probability of hitting 18:09 on any given stair climb 18:09 it's not a good test 18:10 if you haven't hit the force at all on the asc run 18:10 if you climb all of Gehennom without being stopped, then it's worth triple-checking that you do actually have the right Amulet :-) 18:10 pretty suspicious 18:10 if you do get hit with the dorce, you know that you have it 18:10 yeah but doing the whole asc run to check is also a shit test 18:10 because you'll have a lot of backtracking to do 18:10 when you finally realise 18:10 it's a double check 18:10 sometimes it's the first indicator you don't actually have it 18:10 been there done that 18:10 doens't make it a good test XD 18:10 it's not like you're going to have any games where you don't do the asc run 18:11 err, any winning games 18:11 branchport skip 18:11 I think you can also price-ID it? not sure, I've never tried 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Bar Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:14078 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7370 18:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:21331 18:12 branchport skip got patched for 3.6, I think? but there will be variants and old vanillas where it works 18:12 now I wonder whether branchport skip is actually worth it on 3.4.3 realtime speedruns (it obviously is for gametime speedruns) 18:12 I think so 18:12 it would save ten to fifteen minutes 18:12 sub 40 is probably possible with branchport skip 18:12 saves a lot of turns too 18:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible elron's ghost, the former Sorceress, on T:21394 18:13 im not sure if Maud ever actually used it tho 18:13 it is annoying to set up 18:13 Does the beatitude of a lizard corpse make a difference? 18:13 I think Maud might have stopped speedrunning by the time I discovered it? 18:13 Rodney cursed it, but I'm wondering if it's even worth worrying about that 18:13 ah 18:13 Deathsushi: you'll get the usual effects from eating cursed comestibles 18:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5271 18:13 you just need a saddled horse to pick up the amulet, right? 18:13 but, I think it's the first bite that cures petrification (not 100% sure on this, but fairly sure) 18:14 It's the first bite 18:14 won't any pet adjacent to you holding the ammy work? 18:14 luxidream: then #ride it, then branchport, yes 18:14 ah you have to be riding 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:51241 18:14 that doesn't sound too difficult to set up, besides needing to wish for the saddle 18:14 If you get interrupted you can technically get multiple cures out of a lizard corpse 18:14 yeah 18:14 this works best if you've only gone one level deep in the Mines, but Sokoban is nearly as good as a target 18:14 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 18:15 luxidream: you also need to ge the pet deep into Gehennom 18:15 reverse genocide horses 18:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5430 18:15 tame 18:15 saddle 18:15 oh, revgeno, I was thinking figurine wish 18:15 but revgeno is cheape 18:15 ais523: tc speedrunner often needs only first level of mines 18:15 is there a convenient way to quickly locate upstairs when there are items covering them? 18:15 someone should do this 18:15 aoei: yes, it's obviously best for turncount 18:15 see if they can beat maud's bonesless record 18:15 I'm guessing NOT, since vanilla doesn't have the hilite option? 18:15 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:15 Deathsushi: #terrain 18:15 (if you're playing 3.6 or later) 18:15 in 3.6+ you can select the stairs even if they are under items 18:15 OPh nice 18:15 Thank you 18:15 That's great 18:16 _< for example would select the stairs for fast travel 18:16 + 18:16 oops 18:16 there is a faster skip than branchport skip (and one which might even work in 3.6/3.7?) but the setup is much more difficult 18:17 enlighten me 18:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:45383 18:17 you need to hit a level teleport trap on the monster turn, then be teleported onto the Amulet (and autopick it up) while it's still part of the same monster turn 18:17 the easiest setup seems to be using red dragon breath to melt ice underneath you, climb out from the drowning onto a teleport trap, then get hit by a quantum mechanic that moves after the red dragon does and telecontrol onto the Amulet 18:18 but this is really complex for an "easiest setup" 18:18 seems like a TAS-only trick 18:18 I've done it in wizmode 18:18 but it took a lot of tries 18:19 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:19 the advantage is that you can levport all the way to dl1 18:20 you need to get water next to a teleport trap in the first place 18:20 can that happen at fakewiz? or you would need to dig out water all the way until you are adjacent to a teleport trap 18:20 yes, that too, although there are three deep levels which naturally have water (VS level, fakewiz1, fakewiz2) 18:21 so the hard part is getting a teleport trap in the right place (you can dig to it but that can be slow) 18:21 I forgot about VS, that's probably easier 18:21 when you say teleport trap you mean levelport trap right 18:21 err, yes 18:21 I get a little muddled with this because there are clearly TAS-only variants that involve more than one trap 18:21 in order to make things a little faster 18:22 why don't you get a "sorry" when you try to teleport onto the levelport trap? 18:22 you don't teleport onto the levport trap 18:22 you teleport onto the Amulet, which isn't on a trap 18:22 then the levelport triggers after the monsters' turn 18:23 right, the reason this works is that you can't levelport during the monster turn, it gets delayed until all the monsters have stopped moving 18:23 but the game checks to see if the levelport is legal immediately 18:23 so you can pick up the amulet in between the check and the actual levelport 18:23 I suppose it wouldn't be that hard to close the loophole 18:23 how does the game determine which monster moves first? 18:24 <{Demo}> order in list 18:24 it's the order on which the monsters are on the monster chain 18:24 which is usually determined by when they most recently entered the level (or were created on the level) 18:24 _ a linked list (fmon monster chain) 18:24 IIRC, if two monsters move from one level to another simultaneously, their monster chain order reverses, but I'm not 100% certain on that 18:25 also, monster speed is 100% irrelevant for the order in which monsters act during monster turns (all it influences is how many monster turns there are, and which monsters get to act at all on them) 18:26 one more thing, you said it would be slow to dig out water to a level teleport trap 18:26 it's not that slow 18:26 is there a better means of creating water? 18:26 levitate and keep zapping digging downwards 18:26 <{Demo}> if a monster attacks a monster after it on the chain and transports it off level somehow (may not be possible in vanilla) it ends up having monsters on the migrating list take turns 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 13502 points, T:8926, killed by a wounded leocrotta 18:27 <{Demo}> directly after it 18:27 as far as I know there's no reliable way to create water in vanilla unless the level has it already (and creating it unreliably requires a sink or fountain, which also can't be created unless there's one there already) 18:27 {Demo}: hah, seriously? I can see how that would happen, and it would probably be considered a bug 18:28 <{Demo}> there was an extreme dnh fuzzer crash where Nero worked out that that was happening 18:28 <{Demo}> idk how an mvm attack in vanilla would result in a monster being moved to the migrating list though 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:73950 18:29 there might be a spoteffects-esque call as a consequence of a genetic engineer polymorphing a monster 18:29 and spoteffects can retrigger traps you're standing on 18:30 so maybe genetic engineer conflicted onto a monster standing on a levport trap could do it 18:30 <{Demo}> this would realistically never happen in gameplay 18:30 <{Demo}> and I can't see any good uses for it 18:30 well, it could happen by accident I think? 18:30 <{Demo}> that would be so rare 18:30 I think I would be able to pull this off RTA 18:31 need to play around with it though 18:31 bear in mind that I'm the sort of person who looks into creating complicated contraptions out of landmines and potions of oil and ice on the valkyrie home level 18:31 in order to make the level solve itself when you levport back to it after picking up the Orb of Fate, saving one post-T:2000 action 18:31 you should have done a speedrun with knowledge of that trick :D 18:31 bah 18:31 <{Demo}> I think monsters on the migrating list retain mmove 18:31 <{Demo}> so I think if you could get the attack to migrate a guy, you could get some weird stuff to happen 18:32 don't they often have invalid coordinates, though? that's going to spell pain for any attempt to run their AI 18:32 <{Demo}> yeah 0,0 would crash 18:32 i wanna find out what Maud's fastest bonesless was on 3.4.3, but i'm not sure bonesless was flagged in 3.4.3 at all 18:32 <{Demo}> pretty sure migrating guys are all mx,my 0,0 18:32 0x4 might be a 3.4 addition 18:32 it's probably on the speedruns page on the wiki 18:32 oh right yea 18:32 good call 18:32 * aoei looks 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:74341 18:33 <{Demo}> this skip seem insane 18:33 Maud did 2391 turns bonesless 18:33 according to wiki 18:33 oh and 2251 18:33 even with branchport skip that's really tight lol 18:33 Okay! I've made it to the Plane of Earth 18:33 well demo I have 15 minutes to set it up 18:33 it's probably doable 18:34 branchport skip should save loads of time 18:34 so it must be doable 18:34 I think luxidream may be thinking about 3.6/3.7 where it isn't available 18:34 need to get a lot of stuff done before quest open tho 18:34 So, my strat here is 1. Get confused 2. Read scroll of gold detection 3. Go to portal 18:34 And do that on each plane — correct? 18:35 <{Demo}> there's no way the new skip is viable real time 18:35 Deathsushi: that's close; on Water the portal moves and the ?oGD will only show you its position instantaneously 18:35 Okay got it 18:35 so you may want to delay looking for it until you're some distance across the level already 18:35 But otherwise I'm on point? 18:35 on Earth/Air/Fire there's little reason not to do it as soon as you're out of immediate danger 18:35 Great 18:36 And then does Rodney keep harassing me? 18:36 In which case it's worth spending some charging on this WoD? 18:36 he will appear guaranteed on Earth, might or might not appear on Air/Fire/Water 18:36 So worth pumping more charges into the ol' WoD 18:36 when I read cursed tele in wizard mode, it seems to override having the amulet 18:36 he will not appear on Astral, although the other Rodney effects will continue to happen 18:36 luxidream: that's a wizard mode effect 18:36 can I disable it? I want to know if I pulled off the trick correctly 18:37 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:37 not without a recompile, it shouldn't be too hard to fix by recompiling though 18:37 <{Demo}> I can't imagine setting up in a non wizard mode game for this 18:38 <{Demo}> especially not on a clock 18:38 right, in src/teleport.c, compare the blocks of code around You_feel("disoriented for a moment."); and You_feel("very disoriented for a moment."); 18:39 the first block has a prompt on whether to override or not 18:39 the second just overrides unconditionally 18:39 or for a simpler fix, you can just remove the «&& !wizard» in the second block, then you'll have a NetHack binary which disallows wizporting in the planes or Sokoban or with the amulet 18:40 which doesn't interfere with that much wizard-mode functionality and would let you test 18:40 but, any of this would need a recompile 18:40 thanks 18:40 I can do that :) 18:40 {Demo}: my own personal patched version of NetHack has a command to turn wizard mode off, which is very useful for this sort of thing 18:40 but it isn't in officially released binaries for obvious reasons 18:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:7612 18:42 you can dig a hole on an already dug hole 18:42 for a chance at making it fill with water 18:42 good evening all 18:43 * infinigon is lazy to scrollback, but it sounds like interesting bugs are being discussed 18:43 is this branchport skip? 18:43 I'm hearing about interesting bugs :) 18:43 it's different, apparently works in 3.6+ 18:43 wait, weren't you skeptical that it even existed in 3.4.3? 18:44 was that definitely confirmed? 18:45 ais523: the ttyrec links on the speedrun page on wiki were broken, but i have pointed them to amazon s3 working links 18:45 maud's ttyrecs are still online, just moved 18:45 well ais523 says it exists in 3.4.3 18:46 I don't know for certain it hasn't been fixed, but it's unlikely to ever come up accidentally and would be annoying to fix, so it probably isn't fixed 18:47 are you still talking about branchport skip or another bug 18:47 it's a different bug 18:47 involving levelteleporting and teleporting during the same monster turn 18:47 and using the teleport to pick up the Amulet while the level teleport is delayed 18:48 oh, this is the trick that makes the tas work right 18:48 yee 18:49 i did the thing 18:49 So on the plane of water... 18:49 <{Demo}> its so cool bugs like this are still found 18:49 Is my first priority to kill all the water elementals? 18:49 Or do they just keep respawning 18:49 ais523: come again 18:49 [hdf-us] [slex] GenEric (Gen Ang Mal Law), 28 points, T:128, killed by an arrow 18:49 oh, I think it *has* been fixed in 3.6 or 3.7 18:49 it looks like there's a check to see if there's a level teleport scheduled that blocks the monster AI if it is 18:50 meaning that the quantum mechanic would never react 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7277 18:50 tommo: what did you do :o 18:50 …wait, isn't this check in the wrong place? 18:51 ah no, there's a break 18:51 /* end monster movement early if hero is flagged to leave the level */ 18:51 luxidream: sorry for the false alarm, looks like this bug has been fixed in recent NetHack versions 18:52 so you weren't the only one aware of it then :) 18:53 <{Demo}> who fixed it? 18:53 I did publicise it at the time 18:53 <{Demo}> when did you announce it? 18:53 41a40d41a0806a6d9d1012b9d970ba0de39190cc 18:53 fixed by Pat Rankin, crediting me for the report 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:74683 18:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "a blessed fixed ring of levitation", on T:36926 18:54 <{Demo}> damn 18:54 that's October 29 2015, so the fix must have been for 3.6.0 18:55 and fell into the gap where I had no idea what was going on with vanilla development 18:55 Okay, well, I got through those 18:55 Deathsushi: gl!! 18:55 watching maud's bonesless ttyrec, t288 wow in a huge shop lol 18:55 Is there any wisdom for the astral plane, or is it just pick a temple and head there? 18:55 infinigon: Thank you! 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "3 blessed scroll of charging", on T:17516 18:56 Many people prefer to avoid Pestilence, and try the other two altars first 18:56 don't get bogged down, don't slow down to fight, teleport monsters away (though don't tele riders or their corpses) 18:56 Famine is the easiest of the three Riders by far, opinions vary as to the other two 18:56 And how do I determine which is where? 18:56 Pestilence dies to /oDeath; Death doesn't 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:17516 18:56 telepathy 18:56 they'll normally show themselves before long 18:56 or telepathy works 18:56 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:57 well maybe I will do a run with branchport skip sometime 18:57 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) killed the Failure Eidolon, on T:15728 18:57 you have no way to know which altar is which until you're standing on top of them (there are indirect ways to find out from slightly further out but they aren't worth it) 18:57 im considering it for 343 bonesless tc 18:57 but 343 is kinda lame 18:57 so it's just a case of trying altars until you find the right one (nearlook them to verify) 18:57 and i'd have to wowscum 18:57 which is annoying 18:57 I think 3.4.3 is the best version for speedrunning, because 3.6 came after I bug-reported all the speedrun tech :-) 18:58 so in a way it got influenced *by* the speedruns 18:58 yeah i guess 18:58 ais523: how do you exploit levelport thingy in 343? owo 18:59 aoei: simplest setup involves a red dragon melting ice, you climb onto a levport trap, then get hit by a quantum mechanic 18:59 and can a player do it or is a TAS thing only 18:59 but branchport skip also works in 3.4.3 and is much, much simpler to pull off 18:59 ais523 Oh so I can just zap pestilence away? 18:59 right 18:59 yeah i would probably try to just branchport skip 18:59 Deathsushi: death effects work; other zaps don't work very well 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 14508 points, T:8606, killed by a nearly deceased owlbear 18:59 also, death effects don't work on Death 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:17517 18:59 but bear in mind that the Riders respawn 18:59 so you can't reasonably get rid of them permanently 19:00 also, don't try to teleport away Riders or their corpses, it won't end well 19:00 ^ 19:00 So it looks like it's famine 19:00 Do I just melee him? 19:00 zap death probably 19:00 if your melee is powerful enough, melee works 19:00 i mean, you probably could 2 or 3 turn kill with your setup 19:00 still needs a floor/shop wow and a really tight run to compete with maud's bonesless record 19:00 the riders have powerful attacks but are low on max HP 19:00 which for famine is fine 19:00 gonna watch the ttyrec to see how much Maud did before quest 19:00 Well, no harm in zapping him I suppose, I have 5 charges on this wand 19:01 do you have (are you willing to) opposite alignment? 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:74695 19:01 if no, expect to backtrack 19:01 if you're low on charging plan accordingly 19:01 with tc you can do the quest very quickly the only required walking is getting to quest leader to gain entry 19:01 then you just levport down 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1539 19:01 teleport to the dark one, kill the dark one, pick up the eye and branchport to gehennom 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 Grayswandir", on T:17519 19:02 but then you have very little time to the do the invocation and get the amulet 19:02 fortunately you can use asmo to do sanctum for you 19:02 in 343 19:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "a blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:37053 19:02 that saves a lot of time too 19:03 Deathsushi: congrats! 19:03 Thank you 😄. Just savouring this 19:03 first asc? 19:03 I think levporting into the Sanctum and c!oGLing out is actually faster than the amulet delivery service, if all goes well 19:03 ais523: oh yeah you can do that in 343 as well 19:03 because you can kill the HPoM faster than the typical covetous monster can 19:03 i forgot about that 19:03 asmo is fairly quick iirc 19:03 but, you do have to actually land near the HPoM 19:03 usually 19:03 but 19:03 i don't remember 19:04 exactly 19:04 (this is quite likely because that's where most of the open space is, but not guaranteed) 19:04 YUS!! 19:04 Twenty year quest completed! 19:04 wait, did Deathsushi get first altar? 19:04 Thanks for all the help everyone! 19:04 ais523: i think asmo is probably more reliable and still way faster than walking 19:04 Yah, first one 19:04 but you need cold res which is hard to get on a tc speedrun 19:04 I had a helm to swap too if needed 19:04 or asmo will rek your shit, you can poly to cold resistant monster ofc but the best polyforms for tc speedrun are not cold resistant 19:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Mal Law), 3079602 points, T:74715, ascended (sorry, no dump exists for nh370:Deathsushi) 19:04 aleax is an option tho 19:05 nowadays I find it something of a mark of pride if I have a character that can make the first altar but not the second 19:05 * Deathsushi hurls his computer in the garbage 19:05 Won't be needing this anymore 19:05 gg Deathsushi! 19:05 because it means I didn't overprepare 19:05 i think for a really tight tc run it might even be worth waking rodney before the quest 19:05 ty ty!! 19:05 <{Demo}> yey congrats! 19:05 then after branchporting to gehennom all you have to do is fetch asmo and levport to the vs level 19:05 aoei: yes, I think that's standard 19:05 finding the vs in 343 sucks tho 19:06 you find the VS before the quest, too 19:06 right yeah 19:06 idealluy 19:06 ideally you do all this before t2000 19:06 fun fact: at least in 3.4.3, if you are fast enough (it's either 3 turns or 2 turns) from entering the quest goal level to reaching the vibrating square, you don't have to ring the Bell of Opening (although you still need to have it in inventory) 19:07 <{Demo}> how do you get to high altar in 0 turns again? 19:07 enexto glitch 19:07 <{Demo}> triggered by? 19:07 it takes ¼ of a turn with the best known setup, though 19:07 you have to #monster in p or t form when the level is entirely full of monsters up to but not including the square you're aiming for 19:08 then one of them has to try to attack you 19:08 <{Demo}> how does it get filled? 19:08 the fastest way in terms of actions spent involves egg hatch timers 19:08 <{Demo}> ah 19:09 eggs stack, so you can have as many as you want in inventory 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1744 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1161 points, T:1771, quit 19:09 if you need more precise timing than timers can manage, you can do it in half a turn by having a huge stack of corpses in inventory and zapping turn undead at yourself 19:11 (there are glitches in 3.4.3 to get infinite carry capacity; these were fixed ages ago, though, so aren't available in 3.6+) 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1480 points, T:1837, killed by an uninjured manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:14 how often do people die to manes, anyway? 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:6806 19:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37258 19:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:37259 19:14 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:16904 19:14 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Idspike bestowed upon him by Set, on T:16908 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6912 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:17540 19:18 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:37275 19:18 good evening stenno! 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 573 points, T:1262, killed by a slightly wounded water demon 19:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Magician, on T:10487 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 141 points, T:583, killed by a water moccasin 19:23 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 19:23 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) was given Mirrorbright, on T:23727 19:24 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 122527 points, T:17250, cut down by an invisible razor dragon 19:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:37411 19:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:23773 19:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:37414 19:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10768 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 727 points, T:1168, killed by a wounded gray ooze 19:28 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 429 points, T:1305, killed by a wounded giant bat 19:39 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 19:40 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3211 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 357 points, T:924, killed by a wounded giant mimic 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3325 19:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] StellaSchnella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Sorceress, on T:2088 19:46 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4245 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +5 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1279 19:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:38972 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2947 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3097 19:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:43048 19:52 !who 19:52 luxidream: [hdf-us] SkydiveMike [nh370] Cropper [nh370] tsingi [nh370] elron [nh370] jizosaves [nh370] Disruptor [dnh] Demo2 [dnh] guest99987 [slshm] qt [evil] coplate [evil] Bourne [dyn] | [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh] joo [nh370] Glord [nh370] StellaSchnella [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 19:53 infinigon: brevis 19:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:13140 19:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] StellaSchnella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:2508 19:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] StellaSchnella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:2509 19:55 LOL 19:55 fucker zapped me with a death ray *right* after I wore the Eye 19:55 that was a close one 19:55 jeeesus 19:55 luxidream: i almost died 19:55 but it's ok 19:55 !whereis aoei 19:55 luxidream: aoei is not playing. 19:56 i just saved 19:56 tc? 19:56 cool 19:56 1:54 <+Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] StellaSchnella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:2508 19:56 01:54 <+Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] StellaSchnella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:2509 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2592 19:56 haven't done any of gehennom pre-quest unfortunately 19:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:13209 19:56 oh wait, i wouldn't have died anyway 19:57 im wearing [oR from medusa 19:57 it's still cursed tho which is annoying 19:57 is this earlywow? 19:57 no 19:57 seems pretty good then 19:57 yea i guess you kinda need the floor wow to do vlad and wiz before quest 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1132 points, T:3217, poisoned by a rotted dwarf corpse, while praying 19:58 i was conservative with wishes too, fortunately medusa gave me sack, [oR and maybe levi boots too, don't remember 19:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:39167 19:58 I seem to have a pretty decent eh run going. cleared to minesend, finish sokoban, got reflection and MR... 19:59 got crap for spells though. 19:59 im considering writing create monster to sac for MB 19:59 and no ?oEW yet. 19:59 on the quest altar 19:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:39203 19:59 bc wearing the Eye is annoying, i ahve to then wear shield of reflection too 19:59 :/ 20:00 Not a BAD idea 20:00 Could go SDSM/coMR if you get an opening, hopefully you do 20:00 I figure this is a speedrun so 20:00 i like mino and titan form 20:00 -!- Deathsus_ has joined #hardfought 20:00 so SDSM/CoMR is annoying 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4719 20:01 MB lets me use big forms 20:01 Ah, I see, interferes with what you had planned 20:01 which also helps carry cap 20:01 reasonable! 20:01 plus i ripped my CoMR at castle 20:01 due to emergency mino poly 20:01 probably wastes more time saccing for mb 20:01 luxidream: yeeeeah but 20:01 than saves time for using those forms 20:01 there's also the carry cap problem tho 20:01 mmf carry cap is shit and i dont have boh 20:02 if i spam create monster it shouldn't take forever to get MB tbh 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4939 20:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:39302 20:03 ok hang on lets think about this 20:03 i can wear the eye and revgeno silver dragons 20:03 then no need to write create monster 20:04 and i just use mmf rest of teh game 20:04 probably a smarter call 20:04 tho i do have to write another cursed gneo 20:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:39311 20:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] StellaSchnella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:2534 20:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 godhands", on T:25735 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5596 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:5596 20:06 <@riker> hey k2, you here? if so, what commit is dnh running rn? 20:06 @riker: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-01-31 04:42 EST: you can be converted against your will in slex, yes 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5658 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:9307 20:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:4225 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible nabru's ghost, the former Novice, on T:9326 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Master Assassin, on T:52389 20:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed elron's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:13845 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:52391 20:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:39364 20:10 <{Demo}> riker u can press v ingame 20:10 <{Demo}> "dNetHack v3.20.0 (dNAO git 351a08a0), last build 2021-01-30 05:57:56." 20:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:26148 20:11 !whereis qt 20:11 nabru: qt is not playing. 20:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "a blessed scroll of blank paper called "Insert your own funny message here"", on T:39384 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6105 20:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1695854 points, T:39384, ascended 20:13 (sorry, no dump exists for nh370:Glord) 20:13 <{Demo}> beholder is being a noob 20:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] StellaSchnella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:2647 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:12968 20:17 no scrolls left so i have to loot the valley unfortunately 20:17 i have conflict tho 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:9593 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:6779 20:20 also i forgot to pick up a bugle from the castle, probably should do that on the way up 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8252 points, T:6781, quit 20:20 >nabru-Mon-Gia-Fem-Neu, killed by a death ray 20:20 uh oh 20:21 [hdf-us] [spl] sohlman (Val Mer Fem Neu), 418 points, T:1011, sent to the next life by a dwarf 20:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed the invisible Oona, on T:26867 20:21 [hdf-eu] [slshm] HarmathZsolt (Und Dop Fem Neu), 1011 points, T:1395, burned by a fireball 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1545 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2277 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had an elven spear entrusted to her by Mog, on T:17297 20:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 6799 points, T:6750, killed by a bolt of cold 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:14144 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:14144 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed SkydiveMike's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:14182 20:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:15003 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3258 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:1877 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2184 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 14576 points, T:14669, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] sohlman (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1344 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5843 points, T:4017, killed by a wand, while praying 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1661 points, T:2854, killed by an uninjured warg 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:18674 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1368 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of conflict", on T:17842 20:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] sohlman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1057 points, T:1674, killed by a jaguar 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed amulet of life saving", on T:17852 20:51 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4131 points, T:5748, killed by an uninjured werewolf 20:53 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1702 points, T:2360, killed by an uninjured Woodland-elf 20:57 -!- eLtMosen has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:58 oof. rip 20:59 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:00 -!- Deathsus_ has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Traveler, on T:18026 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1715 21:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:27419 21:13 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:18 !asc amybsod 21:18 luxidream: [hdf-us] amybsod has not ascended in 91 games. | [hdf-eu] amybsod has ascended 7 times in 942 games (0.74%): nh343:1 (0.29%), un:1 (25.00%), nh363:1 (50.00%), dyn:1 (100.00%), 4k:2 (14.29%), spl:1 (20.00%) 21:18 !lastasc amybsod spl 21:19 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:21 !lastgame spl amybsod 21:21 luxidream: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for spl:AmyBSOD) | [hdf-eu] (sorry, no dump exists for spl:AmyBSOD) 21:21 !lastasc amybsod spl 21:21 !lastasc spl amybsod 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 753219 points, T:55510, killed by a touch of death 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2232 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "Magic Marker", on T:32158 21:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2796 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] sohlman (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1542 points, T:2333, killed by an uninjured winter wolf 21:38 !lastasc k2 21:38 K2: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for dnh:k2) 21:39 !lastgame k2 21:39 K2: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for evil:k2) | [hdf-eu] (sorry, no dump exists for dnh:k2) | [hdf-au] (sorry, no dump exists for dnh:k2) 21:39 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of Hatamaru, the former Fighter, on T:5568 21:39 <{Demo}> dump dump 21:39 <{Demo}> !lastgame Demo 21:39 {Demo}: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for slex:Demo) | [hdf-eu] (sorry, no dump exists for dnh:Demo) 21:39 still some issues to iron out 21:39 at least the major ones are fixed 21:40 <{Demo}> !whereis Demo 21:40 {Demo}: Demo is not playing. 21:40 <{Demo}> !whereis Beholder 21:40 {Demo}: Beholder is not playing. 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4201 21:42 dNetHack updated (all servers) 21:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:36904 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 robe", on T:19133 21:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 quicksilver", on T:28892 21:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:28928 21:49 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:6024 21:51 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:52 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 shield of reflection", on T:6032 21:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed the Nightmare, on T:29139 21:54 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:6036 21:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:29207 21:56 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:29361 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:5571 22:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:29559 22:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Garland, on T:29617 22:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed fixed scrolls of punishment", on T:29963 22:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:30208 22:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:30210 22:21 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of RossinK, the former Trailblazer, on T:9785 22:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:38671 22:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:8643 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:8761 22:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed tiny stethoscope", on T:31624 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1535 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:9301 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:9302 22:44 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2599 22:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3027 22:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:9565 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "a", on T:3295 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3563 22:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:22171 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3627 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a spherical amulet on an altar, on T:3631 22:52 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased ring of conflict", on T:9687 22:54 Hi. 22:54 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 22:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:9692 22:55 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 23:00 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5286 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 200 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:10014 23:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22529 23:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:22530 23:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:22548 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:10045 23:08 41min 46s brevishack valk 23:08 \m/ 23:11 I've spent longer checking my inventory 23:12 lmao Pinkbeast 23:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Val Hum Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:22627 23:12 Let her have this. 23:12 ? 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:4869 23:18 idgi 23:20 /me neither 23:20 Pinkbeast: are you up late or awake earlly 23:21 Late 23:21 same 23:21 gintonic, cigarettes and brevishack, solid sunday night 23:21 Might be a bit dead at work tomorrow but I finished changing a god and now I can play some crawl 23:21 <@luxidream> changing gods in crawl?! 23:22 Something akin to vanilla's pin removal from WJC, but less harsh 23:22 i should probs sleep tho 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:10791 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:10793 23:22 <@luxidream> oh I thought you meant converting 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7809 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:21420 23:23 <@luxidream> I've seen enough people die converting off of oka/trog 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:10822 23:23 I abandoned Oka once (it didn't kill me) but other than good god switching that's about it 23:24 damn. My first prayer all game and I ended up getting crowned 23:24 Maxed Luck or close to it I assume 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 21445 points, T:7844, killed by an uninjured black unicorn 23:24 Player gnomish wiz actually seems pretty baller, dwelling on the idea. 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:10933 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:11101 23:29 oh 23:30 f 23:30 uck 23:31 u 23:32 Not without dinner and a movie 23:32 \o/ 23:32 if you order the lobster, i swear to god... 23:32 luxidream: Also, we made Gozag sell ammo, because Gozag isn't good enough already, errr 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:11126 23:32 ammo shops? 23:33 wouldn't those just be full of rocks 23:33 Nuh uh! 23:33 No, instant resupply a la pot petition. At a healthy premium, obviously. 23:33 There'd also be flint stones! 23:33 And glass! 23:33 And... things that aren't glass! 23:33 Umbire: you don't even know what game we're talking about 23:33 Iunno, I still think it's p. applicable :B 23:34 also that's pretty sick 23:34 I kind of want to try it 23:34 how expensive is it 23:34 I'm curious as to how many Crawl roles can actually do stuff with guns though 23:34 can I pay to resupply my giant rocks? 23:34 Or whatever ammo's being supplied for 23:34 400 gold, twice the regular shop rate, arrows, bolts, sling bullets, or boomerangs (were tomahawks) 23:35 ...has there been a Crawl fork with guns? 23:35 I should look into that. 23:35 try it> You may have to wait until we let the development version go to CKO/CPO 23:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:33287 23:35 Umbire: Not to my knowledge, but there are some pretty oddball ones now 23:35 Interesting. 23:36 I want more giant rocks for 2k gold :D 23:37 it would be terrible to pay for but big rocks are fun 23:37 Trouble is, early game you don't have 2k gold and later you have 5000 large rocks 23:38 Just glue them together to make giant rocks 4Head 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:11169 23:38 I had 58 on OgEE and I cast "large rock" on basically everything once I had 10 or so 23:38 I joke but does Crawl actually have a polypile system of any sort? Or alchemy for that matter 23:38 Why would crawl have anything so interesting 23:39 No and no. There used to be Fulsome Distillation, to make potions from monster corpses you could Evaporate for harmful effects; the Korean "kimchi" fork restores that system 23:39 [hdf-us] [4k] Owen (owen) (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 6933 points, T:1544, killed by a giant bat 23:39 I didn't realize the kimchi fork actually had gameplay changes 23:39 I thought it was like jnethack 23:40 kimchi's got loads - new oddball species (like hydras), a bunch of removed stuff restored, new spells... 23:40 hydra race? 23:40 sounds busted 23:41 Well, you're large and you can't wear armour, but you do have 27 heads and nine amulets at the end 23:43 https://github.com/kimjoy2002/crawl/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md 23:43 I feel like I would have a hard time finding 9 useful amulets to start with 23:47 >playable hydra 23:47 * Umbire thinks 23:47 Umbire: Crawl species are often more strongly differentiated than vanilla nethack ones 23:47 iirc they have a weird fallen angel that starts off under penance from multiple gods 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:11446 23:48 they die a lot 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:11460 23:49 The angel or the hydra? 23:50 I guess the angel, penance is no fun 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:11527 23:51 they better be the best race in the game 23:51 if they force you to go through penance 23:51 Maybe it's Ru penance :-) 23:52 Starting with sacrifices? No thanks 23:53 No, no, just Ru penance :-) 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:11654 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:11655