00:00 first number is number of recharges 00:00 second is number of current charges 00:00 i.e. that wand has six uses before it's empty 00:00 <{Demo}> first number is number of times it has been recharged in the past 00:00 from there you can recharge it which ticks the first number up one 00:01 so it'd be like, from 0:0 to say 00:01 1:8 00:01 the more you recharge a wand, the more likely it'll give out and explode 00:01 not like EXPLODE explode in the same way as breaking via 'a' 00:01 (depends on the variant though, some DO make it work that way) 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:60997 00:03 * Umbire claps 00:03 Ah got it 00:03 So first number ticks up, second number ticks down 00:04 And we don't know how many times we can recharge a wand 00:04 Correct? 00:05 Wiki has a page on that I'm sure 00:05 and the odds of one exploding from overcharge eventually becomes 1 at some point 00:05 the only exception is WoW 00:05 which can ONLY be recharged once 00:06 Right, I saw that 00:07 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 00:07 this all assumes vanilla rules naturally 00:07 I can ramble on about some variant changes if you like but that should cover the essentials 00:08 The number of charges can be negative, indicating the item has been cancelled. In that case, trying to use it just destroys it without a chance to wrest another charge. 00:09 Bit it can still be recharged. 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:25830 00:09 Adios buddies 00:09 Yah, I'm running through vanilla for a bit 00:12 Yeah, forgot to mention that 00:12 Thanks for the backup Andrio 00:12 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:17 Is it possible to two-weapon with mjolnir? 00:17 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:19 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 00:19 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 00:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 00:23 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 00:24 Yes, but you can only wield an artifact in your main hand 00:25 I'm not sure what happens if you throw Mjollnir while dual wielding 00:25 All artifacts resist being held second to other weapons 00:25 I mean it's still your primary weapon, just that you threw it 00:33 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 283 points, T:1031, killed by a giant bat 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3760 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6034 points, T:3866, killed by an uninjured killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 00:59 -!- ThaEwat has joined #hardfought 01:02 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1353 points, T:2830, killed by a giant ant 01:06 Go team a! 01:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed oilskin sack", on T:53454 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:53467 02:08 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:53707 02:12 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:53724 02:24 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (Wiz Hlf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1478 02:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 3211773 points, T:53758, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Thidwick/nethack/dumplog/1610226859.nh.html 02:41 GG Thidwick! 02:42 [hdf-us] [slex] quark (Abu Woo Fem Cha), 7 points, T:164, killed by a poisonous corpse 02:46 aoei, Andrio: hat #tipping was added in 3.7, right? 02:46 erm i thiiiink so 02:46 its def not in 3.4.3 02:47 3.6.0 I believe 02:47 hat tipping specifically 02:47 [hdf-us] [slex] quark (Jan Mac Mal Law), 450 points, T:5, killed by a monster (gruff mummy) 02:47 as opposed to "regular" tipping 02:49 lolhttps://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/814adb41b8a80a29702620ed321ec89272a381d9 02:49 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:49 oops why did I have lol before the link 02:49 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/814adb41b8a80a29702620ed321ec89272a381d9 02:49 dammit i can't clicc if you 02:49 yea ok nice thx 02:49 :> 02:49 linked fine for me 02:49 * Umbire pats HexChat 02:49 i use weechat and it's my terminal (alacritty) that makes linkies work 02:49 suspected it was 3.7, just needed to confirm 02:50 thanks luxi 02:50 you can just search the source 02:51 would've thought to do that if I was focusing 02:51 but what if we are lazy luxidream2 02:51 and want you do it for us instead 02:51 and not multitasking like I currently (and usually) am 02:51 :3 02:51 aoei pls 02:51 hahaha 02:51 ok i will speak for myself only 02:51 my bad 02:51 * Umbire puts away rolled-up newspaper 02:51 lol 02:51 :3 02:52 in any case I was fairly certain but just needed a cosign from someone in here 02:52 i now have both stable and 370 versions locally so i mighta just wiztested that one rather than source diving it 02:52 seems faster for this particular case 02:53 sometiems you really have to check source tho 02:54 lol i love the commit message 02:54 "it's mostly a variation on #chat but probably adds several new bugs" 02:54 lul 02:54 likely. 02:55 I should test that during my next 3.7 games 02:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:56 okey but don't get too distracted tipping your hat to all and sundry 02:56 you have an amulet to get too 02:57 make me >:c 02:57 hi mobileuser was just talking about you by proxy 02:57 mornin mobileuser 02:57 Umbire: did i say you have to get ammy or suggest you must ascend? do forgive me and ignore that comment 02:58 play the game however you like 02:58 0:) 02:58 aoei pls... 02:58 :c 02:58 * Umbire is joaking 02:58 haha 02:58 i kno 02:58 jt uses it as a 200 iq strategy to check for cursed helms on peacefuls 02:58 yeah i remember him saying 02:58 this is actually relevant for dwarves 02:58 that's pretty fun lol 02:58 right 02:59 i haven't been using it but it's neat if you're trying to find some armour 02:59 that's brilliant 02:59 i feel like the shoes are way more common than the iron helm 02:59 Checking for iron helms I take it 02:59 if he tips his hat back at you 02:59 if you steth a dwarf at 8 AC, 8/10 times it's iron shoes 02:59 then he's the next victim 02:59 yeah lol 02:59 dwar 02:59 oh hi 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Ran Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "20 blessed +5 silver arrows named Nice of you to stop by, Yeenoghu", on T:65665 02:59 Does it also work for leather hats? 03:00 f lords are more likely to have good armour right? 03:00 cat lords? 03:00 usually, yeah 03:00 Umbire: i think any peaceful with a hat on will reply in kind 03:00 luxidream2: dwarf lords 03:00 wait, peaceful 03:00 you said "f lords" 03:00 i just keyed enter by mistake 03:00 ...still relevant for chaotic humies/elves 03:00 half way through 03:00 well after the "dwar" bit 03:00 i miskeyed enter 03:00 YASI: give felines their own leader variants 03:00 ah the hat tipping 03:00 The jaguar grows up into a jaguar lady. 03:01 I don't think lords get better equipment 03:01 mobileuser: was just gonna nudge about {{upcoming}} before editing it in myself 03:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:65670 03:01 nobody is peaceful for humans except the watch and shks tho 03:01 but you came in just after the fact 03:01 altho you did say chaotic humies 03:01 I've gotten some peaceful elves as a humie rogue though 03:01 ye 03:01 because you can kill the watch 03:01 :> 03:02 but I can also... not kill them 03:02 i think they nearly all have hats anyway 03:02 almost always 03:02 luxidream2: are you sure i coulda sworn they do 03:02 shame you can only curse-check 03:02 occasionally a regular one drinks a GL pot 03:02 that obviously has no effect on their eqiupment 03:03 equipment check: is_dwarf 03:03 no distinction for lords/kings 03:03 luxidream2: but how does it work for soldiers etc. 03:03 that's totally different 03:03 there could be some level based check 03:03 they actually get better equipment 03:03 HD 03:03 maybe 03:03 yeah i know they do 03:03 according to the wiki they try to hit some hardcoded value of ac 03:03 for each rank 03:04 Umbire thanks 03:04 but that soldier specific 03:04 yes 03:04 Merc specific actually 03:04 right 03:04 I didn't know that was 3.7 specific, I thought 3.6 already had hat tipping 03:04 well it might be confirmation bias skewing my perception of finding more good armour on dwarf lords 03:04 as I discovered while autisming around as I edited those articles 03:05 but i intend to do more digging on this 03:05 (not a crass jab, actually have it) 03:05 aoei: probably is, I've felt the same 03:05 mobileuser: nay 03:05 just tested it in gurr's port 03:05 which is 3.6.2(?) 03:05 i may have lowkey undiagnosed ASD tbh 03:05 aoei: the soldier code also applies to Croesus's guards and the watch 03:05 ah 03:06 it's not in 3.6.6 03:06 the Mercenary page on the wiki covers all the deets 03:06 ok but i wanna know how equipment generation works for normal monsters as well 03:06 as in gnomes dwarves etc 03:06 which is fair 03:06 Umbire I will leave further edits to you ;-) 03:06 more source diving for us! 03:06 look it up 03:06 already done lol 03:06 stop being lazy :p 03:06 I just wanted to deal with it in one pass 03:07 there's not much else I can think of adding to it anyway beyond checking how it treats corpses from other containers 03:07 interactions with unpaid containers 03:07 shit like that 03:07 luxidream2: yeah i will look it up lol 03:07 just need to figure out what source file deals with monster generation i guess 03:07 aoei: the merc code's also lead me to believe that the Watch is on Croesus's take 03:08 makemon.c 03:08 ^ 03:08 makes sense 03:08 m_initweap 03:10 on the note of initial weapons I need to see what other monsters have particular weapon associations 03:10 or rather memorize them 03:10 oh huh, now i see why some dwarves have loads of kit and most of them just have the shoe 03:11 Oh? 03:11 there's one roll that if they miss they lose out on the chance of a lot of gear 03:12 this particular roll gives them dwarvish short sword, dwarvish iron helm and a chance at mithril 03:12 o 03:12 plus chance of mattock 03:13 or instead of that an axe or spear, and an dwarvish iron shield 03:13 so if you see a dwarf wield a mattock, good chance they're well kitted out, ditto if they chuck a spear at you 03:14 the pick-axe on the other hand they can get with no other interesting gear 03:14 and if they have one they won't have a hat either 03:14 no yendorian OSHA compliance 03:14 unfortunately 03:15 oh and a dwarf who throws a dagger at you also has at best shoes and a cloak 03:15 because pick-axe or dagger is what they get if they miss the roll for stacked gear 03:16 this is actually really useful info if you're hunting dwarves for kit lol 03:16 but if you're a dwarf too you won't have weapons thrown at you 03:16 however, the hat tipping trick helps here too 03:16 because if they have a hat they have a chance of mithril 03:16 if they don't have a hat they won't have mithril 03:17 Aye 03:17 200 IQ as was said 03:18 yeah i just didn't realise until now how important it is; if dwarf has hat, rn2(3) chance of mithril too 03:18 yee 03:18 that's pretty cool lol 03:18 part of why I love NH 03:18 it inspires big brain moments 03:18 im not sure what that roll is though 03:18 is it 1/3 03:18 or 2/3 03:18 I think it's 1/3? 03:18 1/3 makes more sense but the rn2 function name confuses me lol 03:19 as in it has to roll higher than a 2 on a d3 03:19 (assuming it's 1/3 chance) 03:19 but then the rn2(10) stuff would be like a really high chance 03:19 And what did you see that for 03:20 idk it was somewhere in m_initwep too 03:20 i just found rn2 function def in rnd.c 03:21 !tell LarienTelrunya Took care of the pothole links for ya! Some it was just a case of ATT not capitalizing all the words in their trope title, which might take a bit to get used to - in the case of Viet. Crystal and New Vegas they don't use the TVT syntax, just do it like you would on a MediaWiki site! Vietnamese Crystal also doesn't have a page yet but you or I can launch one free whenever either of us has some time 03:21 I'm on it, Umbire. 03:21 nah it just returns a random number between 0 and x-1, looks like 03:21 wait how was it called 03:22 ah it was called as if !rn2(3) 03:22 so yeah, 1/3 chance 03:22 yeeeee 03:23 anyhow that'll do it for me, see you all tomorrow 03:23 o/ 03:23 for shoes and cloak the rolls are (independently) rn2(7) each 03:23 so 6/7 chance 03:23 night Umby 03:24 nini <3 03:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12763 03:25 1/4 dwarves get short sword, helm, and a chance of additional stacked gear 03:27 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:32 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1394 03:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:55 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 03:59 @luxidream yes, stats would be the same. also, randomized appeareances of objects. 04:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 286 points, T:1928, killed by an uninjured goblin, while fainted from lack of food 04:07 i added some info to the dwarf page lol 04:07 on wiki 04:09 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 04:09 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 128 points, T:765, killed by an acidic corpse 04:14 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:14 -!- Borto has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:28 hey bhaak know any cool channels 04:28 im down to only 29 weechat buffers somehow 04:28 i need more IRC 04:36 -!- Admin__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:43 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 04:44 infinigon: I have a working POC for setseed for vanilla. https://github.com/UnNetHack/UnNetHack/commit/7556b21da8ebc4 04:45 that's neat 04:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "magic marker", on T:47045 04:49 something is still off though. it needs to be the same player race/role/etc to have the exactly same level maps. the position of the levels in the dungeons are fixed, though 04:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:55 aoei: no, no other interesting channels. most IRC channels I'm in are nethack or CCC (those mostly have activity around christmas) 04:55 what's CCC? 04:56 also dw im severely IRC addicted as it is 04:56 if anything i should take some breaks more lol 04:57 Chaos Computer Club. the organisation organizing the C3 at the end of the year 04:58 ahhhh i see 04:58 actually that may be interesting to hang out there 04:58 even tho there's not much point til christmas i guess 05:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:47067 05:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:47067 05:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of ESP", on T:47069 05:07 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 05:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:20325 05:11 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:11 aoei: Could have also meant "Carbon Copy Cloner". ;) (MacOS backup software) 05:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:47081 05:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law), 121243 points, T:10069, killed by a wounded captain 05:29 -!- arahael2 is now known as Arahael 05:33 bhaak: fantastic 05:40 aoei: I only have 10 buffers, and switching to the 10th is always a pain because I can't use Alt+ 05:40 how od you keep up with 29? what trick am I missing :) 05:41 bhaak: let me play with it a bit. 05:41 infinigon: yeah i had no idea for a while either and was just using /buffer which i aliased to /b 05:41 but you can actually do alt+j 05:41 and then type the number 05:42 alt+j works for anything above 9 05:44 nice 05:44 thanks 05:44 np 05:46 -!- attie has quit [Quit: gone afk] 05:51 @riker fiqhack did pet intrinsics before any other variant, yes 05:52 or at least any other variant recognized by Junethack, it wouldn't surprise me if someone else had done an independent patch for it for personal use 05:52 or similar 05:57 I have a shortcut that jumps to IRC buffers with activity or just directly to the buffer by "ctrl-x b #buffername" with tab completion 05:57 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 05:59 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "ZZZzzz"] 05:59 weechat has a default shortcut for active chans too 05:59 it's alt+a 05:59 cycles through anything with unread messages 06:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:47613 06:00 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 06:00 disabling nhs updates for an hour or so 06:03 <@Umby> Yo 06:03 hai 06:03 <@Umby> So uh, made it to a priest I met earlier, got some donations going 06:03 yey 06:03 <@Umby> All 4 got me protection, 7 points total 06:03 which role/variant you on 06:03 <@Umby> And I went BUC testing while I was at it 06:03 <@Umby> Phone again if you couldn't tell by me suddenly using Discodd 06:04 oh yeah you should get guaranteed prot for every donation that qualifies monetarily, until naked AC 1 or something 06:04 <@Umby> Anyway uhhhhh 06:04 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/803943436193497148/Screenshot_20210127-060224.png 06:04 <@Umby> completely random elven shield btw 06:04 ooo +5 shield nice 06:05 go ascend :> 06:05 <@Umby> Don't even have enchant armor ID'd yet 06:05 well you don't need it with AC like that :D 06:05 <@Umby> Right??? 06:05 sweet 06:05 <@Umby> sike I totally need it to fire proof this thing 06:05 how's playing the mobile port btw 06:06 meh 06:06 you only lose the base AC from fire damage 06:06 if it's +5 it hardly matters imo 06:06 lol 06:06 <@Umby> It's p. solid 06:06 i like doing it with stuff like prot cloak because that's base AC 3 06:06 <@Umby> Long as you're attentive it's p. smooth shit 06:06 ya 06:06 nice 06:07 i tried playing it on my phone once or twice 06:07 <@Umby> I honestly need AC/reflection though 06:07 <@Umby> Like p. badly 06:07 well 06:07 <@Umby> Not AC, MR 06:07 yea, at some point you need reflection 06:07 I think MR isn't that big a deal until castle/gehennom tho honestly 06:07 <@Umby> I'm gonna do Soko first most likely 06:07 <@Umby> aoei I'm a Rogue lmfao 06:07 well even then 06:08 i'd say refletion is more crucial for you 06:08 than Mr 06:08 <@Umby> really don't wanna get pantsed soon as I reenter quest home 06:08 ohhhh right 06:08 that too 06:08 but who does quest before castle anyway LOL 06:08 <@Umby> Me 06:08 oh xD 06:08 <@Umby> Frequently 06:08 <@Umby> :v 06:09 tbf quest first is great 06:09 saves backtracking 06:09 i just rarely have the xl to do it 06:09 <@Umby> I haven't done any branches yet and I'm at XL10 06:09 you haven't been to the mines? 06:09 <@Umby> mostly because skill training 06:09 <@Umby> Not below MT 06:09 ah okay 06:09 yeah xl10 is not hard to get to tho 06:09 it's the remaining 4 that take ages 06:09 or i just eat wraith or drink potions or whatever 06:10 <@Umby> well time to get to work and home I'm not cockslapped 06:10 lol 06:10 like actual work 06:10 <@Umby> Just a question of Soko or Mines 06:10 or get to work on this ascension 06:10 <@Umby> Latter :B 06:10 well soko might be reflection 06:10 so i'd say maybe go there 06:10 mines end depends how much you care about luck 06:10 <@Umby> ahuh 06:12 i used to always get the luckstone as standard 06:12 but it's not super necessary for a lot of roles actually 06:12 mines levels have high tool chance tho 06:12 so you might get really lucky and find markers 06:13 <@Umby> Ye, I like fillin out the ol toolkit 06:13 or a bag (useful if soko was reflection) 06:13 oh wait 06:13 you're a rogue 06:13 you already have a bag lol 06:13 holding would be nice i guess 06:13 <@Umby> Yeah I snagged a BoH too already 06:13 nice 06:13 <@Umby> Blessed it an all 06:13 so soko will give you another one i guess 06:13 guaranteed 06:13 :D 06:14 <@Umby> Lol 06:15 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 06:17 <@Umby> Back to the grind I go 06:17 <@Umby> Wish me luck (and eventually sleep) 06:17 gogogo 06:17 gl 06:19 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:19 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:20 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 06:32 <@Umby> do black unis spawn hostile even towards chaotics? 06:32 no, black unicorns should always be peaceful to chaotics 06:33 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 06:34 <@Umby> I thought the same and went "this has to be a fucking shapeshifter" 06:34 <@Umby> And well... 06:35 <@Umby> gonna be Fun™️ trying to work this off 06:36 Bones? 06:36 It could also have been something that hit a polymorph trap. 06:36 unfortunately you still lose luck if you kill it. 06:37 <@Umby> it was DL 5 and there was definitely no bones 06:40 Is it the Delphi level? 06:40 Maybe something found a wand or potion 06:41 <@Umby> No, that's a few floors below 06:44 <@Umby> Bleagh, more a setback of tedium than anything but how in the fuck... 06:44 -!- Borto has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:27401 07:25 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 07:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 943 points, T:597, killed by a gas cloud 07:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 803 points, T:346, killed by an uninjured tengu 07:48 aosdict: doesn't K2 maintain the server the wiki is hosted on nowdays? 07:48 (iirc it's hosted on NAO which K2 has control over to some extent) 07:55 idk, K2 do you qualify as a site admin of nethackwiki? 07:55 no 07:55 I thought he didn't have blanket access to all things NAO, just the nethack server part 07:56 nor do i want blanket access :) 07:58 I see 07:59 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1292 points, T:1269, killed by a rothe 07:59 <@Sicarius> hey guys 07:59 heya 07:59 <@Sicarius> a year away and i do not know why i came back 07:59 -!- Borto has joined #hardfought 07:59 to play nethack obviously 08:00 <@Sicarius> thats the problem 08:01 not seeing a problem 08:01 :) 08:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pri Clk Fem Law), 219 points, T:926, killed by a jackal, while immobilized by slipping gears. 08:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:28343 08:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 364 points, T:1187, killed by a heavily wounded homunculus 08:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had an iron staff entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:48339 08:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:48376 08:19 -!- attie has quit [Quit: gone afk] 08:20 [hdf-us] [un] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 9 points, T:16, killed by a succubus 08:22 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 08:23 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3625 points, T:4106, killed by a soldier ant 08:31 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 08:40 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:48 i think not seeing a problem might be my problem 08:48 a neutral observer might certify me a lost cause 08:49 hopelessly nethack addicted 08:51 I'm afraid it's incurable 08:51 the only remedy is more nethack 08:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Dwa Fem Law), 915 points, T:1944, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 08:53 oh right 08:53 my, well 08:53 i suppose i better fire up a game 08:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 996 points, T:2610, killed by a rothe 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1755 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3106 09:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3185 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:5584 09:13 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5581 points, T:3963, killed by a dwarf lord 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4016 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4016 09:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "cursed fixed +3 godhands", on T:3598 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3346 09:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide boots of speed", on T:3749 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:3229 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4851 points, T:6162, killed by a wounded homunculus, while sleeping 09:27 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Law) destroyed BifphWombat's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:3646 09:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:29711 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3416 09:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Digger, on T:20468 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Digger, on T:20598 09:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:5544 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:4950 09:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:30490 09:55 [hdf-us] [slshm] aux (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 21391 points, T:7881, killed by a watch captain 09:55 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:42334 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:21618 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed sack containing 3 items on an altar, on T:6674 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Bar Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:7648 10:31 my average turncount in evilhack is 2612 :( 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Law), 15424 points, T:7602, killed by a wounded leocrotta 10:41 wow, that's a sick turncount tho 10:41 what was your best gametime asc 10:42 ha! 10:43 If reaching minetown counts as an ascention then I'm THE BEST! 10:43 kek 10:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:10576 10:46 yay I'm number 12 on the evilhack Realtime Speedrun Leaderboard :b 10:46 sick 10:46 who's #1 10:47 Tariru 10:47 haha ofc 10:47 elenmirie on 3 10:48 lol even rebatela is faster than I am 10:48 im sure rebatela would be quite tilted 10:48 to see you say it like that 10:48 "even rebatela" 10:48 waht does that mean :P 10:49 I always think "riboleta" - Italian bread soup. 10:49 oh I am sure he find that funny ;-) 10:49 not the bread soup, the time :b 10:49 haha 10:50 well 10:50 rebatela does seem to ahve an actual sense of humour 10:50 he takes a long time preparing his asc runs 10:50 and likes to play slow 10:50 yeah 10:50 i like to lose the astral portal three times on astral writing scrolls and then blanking them again 10:51 while lux shouts at me 10:51 heh 10:51 pressure... 10:51 oh idk if you saw that bit maybe you went to sleep lol 10:52 it was pretty funny tho 10:52 when i watched it back 10:52 I do know about the wand testing episode ;-) 10:52 haaaa 10:52 so embarrassing 10:52 epic 10:58 [hdf-us] [dyn] Arnibald (arnibald) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 8327 points, T:16181, killed by invisible Ixoth 11:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:39687 11:03 the realtime speedrun board is also neat in the fact that it shows you exactly how many players have ascended that variant. if the count is 100 or less 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2016 11:04 only 4 people have ascended evilhack in under 24 hours hah 11:04 And K2 is one of them! 11:05 K2: gametime is that way too now 11:05 they're both rank order of all players up to 100, with either fastest realtime or lowest turns win as the displayed pb 11:06 someone hurry up and do a slash'em ascension already 11:06 why has nobody ascended slash'em 11:06 tired of sitting at the fastest asc 11:06 ohhh 11:06 gets lonely in my ivory tower 11:06 lol 11:06 :c 11:06 * aoei pats amateurhour 11:06 would it help if *someone* *cough* moon-child *cough* made certain xlogs publicly available 11:06 yes I think it would 11:07 almost surely someone over there has beaten 8h30m lol 11:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:11783 11:14 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 11:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 11:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 11:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:12281 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 92 points, T:323, killed by a wounded fox 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8709 11:30 -!- Muad has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:38 -!- Agrius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38 -!- flgr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38 -!- dtype has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:39 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 29 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:42226 11:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:13648 11:41 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:43 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1138 points, T:2615, killed by an uninjured manes 11:50 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 11:50 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 11:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:53 <@riker> hey k2, you here? 11:55 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 25 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43704 11:57 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 11:57 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 11:59 btw luxidream what do you think about uploading the race from a few days ago to your youtube? 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:44130 12:00 i have a script that can pull the chat as well, i think having this around seems like a good idea 12:00 so it doesn't disappear when the twitch vod expires 12:02 I'll back it up 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9046 12:04 luxidream2: i got it already :) 12:06 can you give me a dl link somehow so i can save it somewhere and then probably forget it forever 12:06 i mean, i could download from twitch i guess but i dont have this script for the chat 12:06 the next race should be scheduled during the super bowl as a flex 12:07 ahhahahaha 12:07 nice 12:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:36814 12:08 when is the super bowl 12:10 i wonder if we can get any other contenders too 12:10 maybe tommo with a bit more practice and possibly some coaching :> 12:10 elenmirie__ is getting quite fast too 12:12 luxidream2: feb 7 12:13 feb 7 sounds good to me 12:13 ready to wipe the flur with stenno2 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9812 12:16 would stenno2 be down for feb 7? 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 388 points, T:1665, killed by a gas spore's explosion 12:17 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:17 4d6 12:18 -!- Adeon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1438 12:19 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 12:19 -!- Adeon has joined #hardfought 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10797 12:25 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 20388 points, T:11251, killed by a nearly deceased warhorse 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46459 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:46460 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3089 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3112 12:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:38096 12:31 [hdf-us] [slex] poligono2007 (Art Amn Mal Law), 4498 points, T:1102, killed by a monster (needle gnome) 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 90 points, T:508, killed by a large mimic 12:35 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 3648 points, T:3700, mowed down by a redcap 12:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:38415 12:40 -!- attie has quit [Quit: gone afk] 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4603 12:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:38436 12:48 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:50 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0] 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:29295 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5930 12:54 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 12:54 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 12:57 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 13:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:39098 13:09 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 505 points, T:2016, killed by a werejackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:13 RIP 13:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:17671 13:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed the Grue, on T:17740 13:21 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:968 13:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:39819 13:25 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 13:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 blade singer's saber", on T:18255 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:31062 13:31 * Deathsushi gets swole. 13:31 Does greasing your gloves have any impact? 13:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:40375 13:32 it will protect them from one level of erosion. surprisingly it will not make you drop things 13:36 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:38 But it won't protect them from being stolen from me/ 13:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:40617 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:3051 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3209 13:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed spellbook of detect treasure", on T:18904 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:31460 13:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8899 13:46 !rng sencha | lapsang souchong | english breakfast | earl grey 13:46 aoei: sencha 13:46 okey nice one Beholder 13:46 Earl grey. 13:47 No RNG over here 13:47 +2 Hot Cup of Bergamot 13:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:48 ok i will reconsider 13:49 maybe 13:49 but i mean 13:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:49017 13:49 !rng tea, earl grey, hot 13:49 Deathsushi: tea, 13:49 Hmmm 13:49 !rng tea,earl grey,hot 13:49 Deathsushi: tea,earl 13:49 OH COME ON 13:49 interesting 13:49 * Deathsushi summons Picard 13:49 yea i only knew about | splitting 13:49 !rng computer,tea,earlgrey,hot 13:49 Deathsushi: !rng thomas richard harold ; !rng do dishes|play nethack ; !rng 1-100 13:50 didn't nkow you could do other ways 13:50 lol whut 13:50 im as confused as you 13:50 Hahaha 13:50 Clearly we just need to drink the tea 13:50 yeah good idea 13:50 Is there anything beyond the throne room in Fort Ludios aside from gold? 13:50 Eg, is it worth potentially blowing my legs off? 13:50 (I don't have boots of levitation 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:31901 13:55 idk 13:55 what do you even want from ludios anyway lol 13:55 Yah, not much it seems 13:56 Just felt good to clear it out 13:56 fair enough 13:56 i've cleared ludios max 1 or 2 times i think 13:56 in my >10 years playing nethack 13:56 It sure would be nice if we could set up some confirmation prompts in our config: "Are you REALLY sure you want to put wand named cancel in bag named holding?" y "Are you REALLY REALLY REALLY sure?!?!?!?!" 13:56 Ah, well, that's instructive 13:57 I like suplexing Croesus 13:57 It's a lot of work for a few points of protection. Clare always used to insist on making her own DSMs, and if you do that it's good. 13:57 Even if there's no need 13:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:41472 13:57 Pinkbeast: clare is wise 13:57 Deathsushi: Bear in mind also that at this stage in the game treading on a landmine is a mild annoyance. 13:57 saves a wish if you make your own 13:57 Right, not a big deal 13:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:49191 13:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:19525 14:03 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:7027 14:07 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:10 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 14:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) wished for "Cursed Fixed +3 Katana Named Frost Brand", on T:11642 14:11 also if you can't kill a dragon do even deserve DSM? 14:12 I think dnh warns you against putting cancellation in boh if you've formally id'd both items 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:7684 14:16 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:16 (Clare also has a Spork win and I don't, a fact she reminds me of approximately every ten minutes :-) 14:16 lol! 14:16 this clare a good mate of yours Pinkbeast 14:16 she sounds great haha 14:17 We've known each other years (and she's one of the Stoat Soup triumvirate, our Crawl variant) and have a had a friendly rivalry over various roguelikes over the years 14:17 nice 14:17 does she live in the 'bridge too? 14:18 Yes - we met there in about '96 14:18 lol wow 14:18 i was a wee child back then 14:18 :D 14:18 (5 years old in fact) 14:18 and also in cambridge at the time as it happens 14:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:20162 14:19 It's OK, my keyboard's only _slightly_ older than you :-) 14:19 damn lol 14:20 sometimes i wake up at like 6am and think im old 14:20 when i were a lad we never had no keyboards 14:20 but you well and truly destroyed that illusion for me 14:20 with your keyboard of all things 14:20 TBF, my usual bicycle is older than _me_ :-) 14:20 Pinkbeast: i had an '81 peugot for a while 14:21 ten years older than me the frame 14:21 bit salty about that getting nicked 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:47451 14:21 i was stupid though, left it locked to a fence outside a former flat for like 6 months before heading across town to try and retrieve it... 14:22 Mmm. My usual is a mid-60s Triumph (really a Raleigh) and it looks as terrible as it can without actually not being in good working order 14:22 But during the plague I just take the Brompton to the office and put it _in_ the office, since it's only me. 14:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:12384 14:22 this was peak corona time so i kinda had that as an excuse for not getting the tube all the way to the other side of hamburg 14:22 but even so 14:22 it was a dumb move 14:23 not really that surprised someone nabbed it 14:23 :< 14:23 Bad luck, though. 14:23 yea 14:23 i loved that bike 14:23 it was fucking cool 14:23 really lightweight racer 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:9482 14:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) was given Spineseeker, on T:21406 14:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:21425 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10290 14:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:21557 14:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:21576 14:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:21735 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:11054 14:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Garland, on T:21769 14:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:21778 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:11809 14:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:13518 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:12490 14:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2124 points, T:4045, killed by an uninjured giant mimic 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14687 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful gelatinous cube, on T:49865 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1686 points, T:3226, killed by an uninjured jaguar 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper amulet of reflection, on T:15108 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Rover, on T:49965 15:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) became the Glory of Arioch, on T:16783 15:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1087 points, T:2192, killed by an arrow 15:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:24243 15:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:24249 15:28 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 15:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:17889 15:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:36 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 15:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:18296 15:38 -!- Arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:38 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3153 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3298 15:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:18833 15:45 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 15:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:50 Does the orb of fate need to be in my main inventory to grant me the damage reduction bonuses? 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:33360 15:52 -!- attie has quit [Quit: gone afk] 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Deathsushi (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33366 15:52 yep 15:52 So there's no way around that massive 150 lb weight eh? 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kunoichi, on T:3982 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:11701 15:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:57 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) ate for the first time - newt, on T:3325 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:16505 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5302 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5811 16:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 bone helm of brilliance", on T:28513 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2533 points, T:5329, killed by a magical orcish arrow 16:20 LarienTelrunya: boop 16:20 sup Umbire 16:20 LarienTelrunya: Message from Umbire at 2021-01-27 03:21 EST: Took care of the pothole links for ya! Some it was just a case of ATT not capitalizing all the words in their trope title, which might take a bit to get used to - in the case of Viet. Crystal and New Vegas they don't use the TVT syntax, just do it like you would on a MediaWiki site! Vietnamese Crystal also doesn't have a page yet but you or I can launch one free whenever either of us has some time 16:20 he did a boop :o 16:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1479 16:20 * aoei bops Umbire 16:20 * Umbire dies 16:20 d: 16:20 D: 16:20 what have i done 16:21 * Umbire had an amulet of life saving on, fortunately 16:22 <@riker> !whereis microlance 16:22 @riker: [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh]: (Rog Vam Mal Cha) T:28735 The Lost Cities level: 32 16:22 <@riker> hey aoei you here? 16:22 i am as it happens 16:22 whats up 16:22 <@riker> you maintain the nh scoreboard, right? 16:22 what can i do for you 16:22 i do 16:23 yes 16:23 di di break it again D: 16:23 <@riker> there's some role/race combos on the dnh asc table that don't exist - but are not greyed out 16:23 ehhhhhhh 16:23 LarienTelrunya: Just wanted to make sure you got that :B 16:23 that page is way down on my priority list riker sorry ngl 16:23 Umbire: you mean the att stuff? yeah I see you fixed the links, thanks ♥ 16:23 <@riker> okay no worries 16:23 <@riker> i may make a list and drop it somewhere fo rwhenever you get around to it 16:23 Have ideas for more to add but have to take care of some things before a meeting first 16:23 <@riker> it's not a huge deal lol 16:23 it isa mess lol i will try to improve it eventually 16:23 yeah that'd be helpful honestly 16:24 one option is github issues for example 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible nabru's ghost, the former Novice, on T:13132 16:24 <@riker> it also bothers me that hte scoreboard swaps orders for things like arc/ana :/ game uses aA, but scoreboard goes Aa 16:24 <@riker> unplayable 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:13167 16:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed the invisible Mother Hydra, on T:28886 16:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:28889 16:27 wait what 16:28 can you explain this more clearly 16:28 i really don't like scoreboard saying things differently to how the game does 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:51944 16:29 so i would like to fix that one 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6869 16:32 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3748 16:34 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4055 16:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:30431 16:35 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4136 16:37 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4227 16:38 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:39 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:43 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 16:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 16:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] gt (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 99661 points, T:16573, killed by a Grey-elf 16:45 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:51 -!- ThaEwat has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:51 <@riker> aoei: https://github.com/aoeixsz4/nhs-fork/issues/27 is the issue i maed 16:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 robe", on T:31496 16:51 yey 16:51 thanks 16:51 <@riker> do you want me ot include the funky ordering in that or a diff one 16:52 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Dispater, on T:31597 16:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:2762 16:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased spellbook of magic mapping", on T:31666 16:55 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:55 just explain it here if you can do so briefly 16:56 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:57 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 16:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 16:58 <@riker> bleh didn't see that until i made an issue 16:58 <@riker> https://github.com/aoeixsz4/nhs-fork/issues/28 16:59 <@riker> feel free to close it or whatever with "not gonna fix" i figured i'd just drop it there for future reference 16:59 <@riker> if you can point me to where htat's ordered in the code I may try to fork it... 16:59 hang on 16:59 i want to test my github irc announce hooks 16:59 so i will try to rapidfix the small thing 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 29497 points, T:14377, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:59 thanks for makin the issue 17:00 <@riker> np 17:00 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:19497 17:01 <@riker> also, is alpha order for races preferred or is in-game list order preferred.... wait, i might try to get chris ot make that alpha order acutally 17:01 doesn't NHS only show the short form anyway though? 17:01 which in the issue you posted you also wrote as Brd 17:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32047 17:01 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:01 but moved into alphabetical order based on Troubador 17:01 <@riker> what is NHS 17:01 that confuses me somewhat 17:01 the scoreboard 17:02 NetHackScoreboard 17:02 <@riker> https://nethackscoreboard.org/firstasc.dnh.html 17:02 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/804109017793429524/unknown.png 17:02 ah yes i see waht you mean now 17:02 lemme see waht i can doooo 17:03 <@riker> neato 17:03 <@riker> idk it just bugs me, if I could I'd probably replace PM_BARD with PM_TROUBADOUR everywhere but i feel like that would lead to regular "chris mispelled a define" bugs 17:03 right 17:04 one more thing so, it does appear that the NHS json file lists android as a race 17:04 but it's actually clockwork race 17:04 anachronaut role 17:04 right? 17:04 <@riker> sorta 17:04 <{Demo}> that is correct 17:04 <@riker> it has its own race code :? 17:04 android is listed as a race in the NHS's definitions yes 17:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Diana, on T:3167 17:04 <@riker> Beholder: hdf-us Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Shaktari, on T:85276 17:04 <@riker> example from logs 17:05 <@riker> this is due to the different in-game stats & such 17:05 well what actually shows up in xlog 17:05 <@riker> however, for the player in every regard but livelogging and what material your corpse is in bones it's clockwork 17:05 in those fields 17:05 <@riker> xlog should be "and" 17:05 then and needs to be listed as race in the json i think 17:06 <@riker> i'm just saying is there a way to merge that into clockwork automaton for the table purposes or nah 17:06 because of the way teh scoreboard works 17:06 <@riker> yeah okay fair enough 17:06 possibly the frontend can be fixed 17:06 <@riker> that's not a huge deal. might prompt somebody to change it from "clockwork" in the selection screen then 17:06 might have to be special-cased somehow 17:06 i'll deal with that later 17:06 and just try the troubador fix for now 17:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:19925 17:07 <@riker> yeah probably just ignore that one 17:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:19963 17:08 <@riker> I think the list order could probably also be fixed by reordering the roles/races in the nethack_def json? 17:08 <@riker> specifically just swapping around a couple pairs & moving human to the start 17:08 for livelogging do you get Tro or Brd 17:09 like hdf-us Dirsuptor (Tro Dwa Mal Neu) or whatever 17:09 or is it Brd 17:09 NHS has brd as a short code in some places but in the array of allowed combis they're listed with Tro lol 17:09 which seems sorta confusing and im not sure why that is 17:10 <@riker> Brd 17:10 (i didn't actually write the scoreboard, i inherited it, incase you weren't aware) 17:10 <@riker> might be slex? 17:10 yeah but it's in the list of allowed dnethack combis with Tro lol 17:10 whatever i'll just fix that 17:10 in slex it's Brd 17:10 <@riker> yeah it's slex only for Tro 17:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:20207 17:10 <@riker> hm wait tha'ts Troll in slxe i htink 17:10 <@riker> i have no results for "Tro dnh" in htis channel 17:11 this is in the role field 17:11 ok 17:11 its just an error 17:11 in fact Brd is also in there lmao 17:11 so the Tro is 100% redundant 17:11 Brd is the role, Tro is the race, I have no idea what a "troubadour" is :P 17:11 <@riker> lol aoei 17:12 aight lets commit this bad boy 17:14 <@riker> then wait 15 minutes for chrome to show me the new versoin :/ 17:14 it shouldn't take 15 min lol 17:14 but give us a sec 17:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:20494 17:16 <@riker> yeah i know :) 17:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed Garland, on T:20540 17:17 does anyone know how the guts of nethack save code works? 17:17 <@riker> poorly, why? 17:17 specifically, what the heck is NHFILE nhfp->structlevel? 17:18 <@riker> no clue, what's up with htat? 17:18 the code checks that flag before it writes down basically anything in the file 17:18 i want to add a new field to the savefile 17:18 i guess i also do the same? 17:19 idk what it means though 17:19 is it a version/compatibility flag? 17:19 <@riker> what are you trying to add? 17:19 rng seed info 17:19 for setseed 17:19 <@riker> ah, interesting 17:19 <@riker> is that something storeable in the you struct maybe? 17:19 well i'm just storing it in the big globals struct 17:19 but i still need to serialise it manually 17:20 dw, i'll figure it out 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9997 17:22 wat why does it still say Bard 17:23 <{Demo}> bard vs trobuadsuasduasr exists cause b is full 17:23 <{Demo}> it has barbarbian abd Binder 17:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:20881 17:28 oh i see why it wasn't properly fixed initially 17:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed Daemon, on T:33388 17:29 -!- Dracunos has quit [*.net *.split] 17:29 -!- hisacro has quit [*.net *.split] 17:30 -!- Dracunos has joined #hardfought 17:30 -!- hisacro has joined #hardfought 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3780 17:31 * infinigon hands aoei a β 17:31 a wut 17:31 why for 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:11142 17:32 i forgot to symlink some things 17:32 there are too many "b"s 17:32 oic 17:32 lol 17:32 i done good 17:33 i should make some rice for my din dins 17:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:21648 17:34 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:35 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1024 points, T:1529, killed by a pony 17:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:33979 17:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:34141 17:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) averted death, on T:34160 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12380 17:50 -!- lxlldr has quit [Quit: Quit] 17:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:23039 17:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:35808 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13047 18:04 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:11605 18:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:36176 18:07 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:12081 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:13104 18:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "2 holy water", on T:36199 18:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:36200 18:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 7410330 points, T:36223, ascended 18:09 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1611755619.dnh.txt 18:09 wooo grats microlance 18:12 ty 18:14 GG 18:15 gg! 18:16 Hi infinigon! 18:17 hi 18:17 i found a cute thing in nethack code today 18:18 /* append a character to a string (in place): strcat(s, {c,'\0'}); */ 18:18 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:13214 18:18 char * 18:18 strkitten(s, c) 18:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Hum Fem Cha), 149 points, T:390, killed by a newt 18:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 230 points, T:799, killed by a newt 18:23 -!- ThaEwat has joined #hardfought 18:23 idgi o: 18:23 <@nabru> cat/kitten 18:23 -!- ThaEwat has quit [Client Quit] 18:23 <@nabru> I think that's the pun 18:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] aux (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 30031 points, T:9183, killed by Mr. Izchak, the shopkeeper 18:23 Hi nabru 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13679 18:25 strcat's the standard C function for concatenating two strings 18:25 <@nabru> Hi 18:25 Hello @nabru, Welcome to #hardfought 18:25 so the devs decided to name the baby version of that function strkitten 18:26 infinigon: that is super cute lol 18:26 * infinigon needs to find an excuse to introduce ropes into the codebase 18:26 and call the concatenation function of that str_large_cat 18:26 lol 18:29 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14848 18:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 2023 points, T:2642, killed by a killer bee 18:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:14654 18:34 -!- ThaEwat has joined #hardfought 18:37 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1875 18:38 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 18:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 1595 points, T:2814, killed by a rothe, while dragging an iron ball 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:19792 18:38 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 18:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 96 points, T:217, crunched in the head by an iron ball 18:42 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:43 Going troping again, lemme know if you feel like contributing any suggestions 18:43 I'll mostly be poring through chatlogs for the past week or so 18:43 what are you looking for sorry 18:44 https://allthetropes.org/wiki/NetHack <-- just stuff to mention on this page 18:44 And/or any of the variants 18:44 oh yeah, re: my current rogue run I went to the Mines, remembered there was a coaligned altar 18:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] aux (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 597 points, T:1052, killed by a gnome 18:45 even better a shop with an ice box, was able to sac all but the heaviest corpses and repair most/all of my luck 18:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nelennath (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:13675 18:45 whew 18:45 that page is pretty extensive already lol 18:45 Yahuh 18:45 but there's always more to be added 18:46 yea i guess so 18:46 I might focus more on the variants but I have that open just in case I brain something 18:46 i just feel like 18:46 i gotta read the thing first 18:46 before thinking of anything to suggest lol 18:46 If you like, no problem 18:46 no rush either 18:46 :3 18:46 fair 18:46 mainly I'm looking to extend Anti-Frustration Features currently, I have #tip and uh 18:46 looks interesting tho i will probs read it eventually 18:46 * Umbire rereads 18:46 anti-frustration huh 18:46 oh yeah the vegan food thing 18:47 i managed to get some scoreboard work done today sort of 18:47 yay work! 18:47 so then i finally ate dinner 18:47 and now i am bed i am ready to shower and pass out 18:47 cu in the morning lol 18:47 (There isn't a note on vegetarianism sadly, that's on the list of things to do) 18:47 ah np, nini! 18:48 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:51 gn aoei 18:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 1347 points, T:2186, killed by a gnome lord 18:52 rewatching the race vod i just realised stenno died to a monster that kept zapping undead turning in sokoban 18:53 that must be new monster AI in 3.7 18:53 that's pretty interesting 18:53 (i don't think any of us realised that's what was happening during the race itself, the messages went by way too quick) 18:54 What was it zapping at specifically? 18:55 corpses, to bring them back to life 18:55 specifically an invisible gelatinous cube 18:55 which then paralyzed, which led to rip 18:57 Corpses on stenno's space or just in general? 18:58 <@luxidream> ah that's how the gelcube ended up behind him 18:58 but why was it invisible tho 18:58 <@luxidream> he was blind 18:58 oh as in invisible to *him* 18:58 6_9 details, people 19:01 <@riker> !tell aoei woo, thanks for fixing that (soryr, went afk shortly after my last msg to u) 19:01 Will do, @riker! 19:02 [hdf-us] [spl] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2705 points, T:4173, struck down by a jaguar 19:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10004 19:04 <@luxidream> tiles looks better but idk what anything is x.x 19:04 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/804139851884527646/unknown.png 19:05 Fuck me, I think I forgot to mention illiterate conduct 19:05 The hooded monsters are hostile aligned priests, looks like 19:05 luxidream: which one is you? 19:05 There's an angel 19:05 oh, you ascended 19:05 He's on the altar rn 19:06 yea I won, but it was too hard to see mind flayers 19:06 Next to the high priest and 19:06 so I just got rid of them 19:06 i thought this was a splat and you were grumbling about dying to something you didn't know 19:06 I think a jabberwock? 19:06 lol 19:06 that's one way to do it 19:06 * Umbire hasn't gotten far enough in a DawnHack run to see the tile 19:06 And switching tiles mid-run doesn't usually occur to me if I'm not curious enough 19:07 (yes mobile lets you do that) 19:07 <@luxidream> I mean you can do that on pc too 19:07 <@luxidream> you can even switch back to ascii if you want :p 19:07 Oh you can? 19:07 I was under the impression you had to save/restart to do that 19:07 <@luxidream> i think you do have to save/restarted 19:07 ah 19:08 <@luxidream> but to switch to ascii you don't have to 19:08 Mobile port just lets you do it whenever without interrupting 19:11 <@riker> sure is a shame nethack isn't a turn based game with no penalties for a save/reload 19:12 sigh, i had to restart the vod+chat rendering 19:12 the audio got desynced because of the disconnect + dropped frames 19:12 eta another 20 hours I guess 19:13 :( 19:13 tiles in terminal wat 19:13 aoei: Message from @riker at 2021-01-27 19:01 EST: woo, thanks for fixing that (soryr, went afk shortly after my last msg to u) 19:13 that's a local game aoei 19:13 hterm tiles doesn't look that good sadly 19:15 yea but i though tiles also had bogus menus for stuff as well 19:15 it looks like you have normal perm_invent plus tiles 19:15 somehow 19:15 it does have checkboxes and stuff 19:15 but you can do everything with the keyboard 19:15 oh i just cant see them on the screenshot 19:15 ah nice 19:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ran Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:11207 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nelennath (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:15009 19:26 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Hum Mal Cha), 4193 points, T:3579, killed by a gnome king zombie, while praying 19:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:17544 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:20761 19:36 lol "What do you want to remove [pAW or ?*]" 19:36 * tinklebear enters '-' 19:36 "You mime removing something." 19:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Ran Inc Mal Cha) killed Shelob, on T:12763 19:39 -!- Xjs has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:14147 19:42 YANI: Divine harassment - if a player permanently converts their alignment during the game, they are subjected to Rodney-style harassment from their god for the rest of its duration. 19:43 luxidream2: what's that tiles screenshot from that you posted earlier? 19:44 are you asking about the tileset? 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3125 19:44 it's dawnhack 19:44 Ye 19:44 Ya, love dawnhack, but what's the interface? 19:45 you can play with your rcfile to make nethackw look like that 19:45 ^ 19:45 oh, windows? 19:45 right 19:45 thanks! 19:45 are you not windows? 19:46 gnome on linux 19:46 I've never been able to get dawnhack to scale well so the font isn't microscopic. 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] molarity2 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 400 points, T:2707, killed by an uninjured gecko, while fainted from lack of food 19:47 I have an enthusiastic 8yo who prefers tiles on her windows computer. 19:47 under "help" I was able to find windows specific rcfile options 19:47 that let me customize it a bit 19:47 I'll check next time I'm doing tech support for her 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 415 points, T:1960, killed by a gas spore's explosion 19:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:21948 19:54 aosdict: Is the variant map on the wiki the most up to date version ya got? 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 141 points, T:814, killed by a wounded hobbit 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Bar Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a leprechaun, on T:10412 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Rog Elf Fem Cha) had a mithril knife entrusted to her by Kos, on T:22671 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a black dragon, on T:20225 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:20273 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20274 20:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Dro Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:3399 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4240 20:18 Umbire: I typically update it every february, so it's about a year old and I haven't produced anything new, but I'm also not aware of any new variants springing into existence in the last year either. (there's some dnh releases and things but that's it.) why do you ask? 20:19 Was gonna stick the image in the ATT articlesphere I've been working on developing 20:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Vam Fem Neu), 32 points, T:216, killed by a black pudding 20:21 * Umbire should probably make a few posts on r/nethack to get more word out 20:23 aosdict: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Game_Mod/Game_Mod_Index#NetHack was gonna stick it here to accompany this list at the minimum 20:23 There's also the category page for it all 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10864 20:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4897 20:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Vam Fem Neu), 2249 points, T:1866, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a potion 20:27 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 20:27 Is the idea with potions of full healing to save them for when I'm trying to ascend, or to quaff them early at full health to get boosts? 20:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Vam Fem Neu) was given the Rod of Lordly Might, on T:938 20:30 [hdf-us] [spl] PetraVijod (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3167 20:31 Deathsushi: it's a good idea to keep 2 or 3 around 20:32 most players don't really need more than 1-5 potions of full healing 20:32 bless the rest and quaff them whenever you want 20:32 for the endgame 20:32 Deathsushi: I save 5 for ascension and alchemize as many as I can to increase my HP as soon as I have enough 20:32 if you learn the dark art of alchemy, you'll end up swimming in full healing 20:32 Got it, thanks everyone! 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:6034 20:33 Deathsushi: if I go for a spellcasting build, I try to set aside a small stack for dipping in gain energy/level for gain ability 20:34 (once I'm able to bless stuff) 20:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Vam Fem Neu), 8466 points, T:2390, killed by Ms. Urignac, the shopkeeper 20:37 by the time you've made it to gehennom there's usually a ton from dragon drops. Variants with the dragon caves branch offer an abundance. 20:37 Can confirm 20:38 [hdf-us] [spl] PetraVijod (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3821 20:38 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law), 15457 points, T:22394, killed by a flesh golem, while fainted from lack of food 20:40 [hdf-us] [spl] PetraVijod (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:4194 20:42 [hdf-us] [spl] PetraVijod (Val Hum Fem Law) murdered PetraVijod, her faithful human, on T:4326 20:43 D: 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:21067 20:46 human pet? 20:46 PetraVijod plays a dark game 20:46 well humans aren't normally tamable 20:46 so it's noteworthy 20:48 interesting. I know nothing of splicehack 20:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] 4nVTxyKh (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 7040 points, T:3408, killed by a small dart 20:51 [hdf-us] [spl] PetraVijod (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4702 20:52 Nor do I 21:00 truly it is a mystery for the ages 21:00 (until I eventually play it) 21:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:43993 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:23039 21:21 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:21 -!- flgr has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:22 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1354 points, T:1824, killed by an arrow 21:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44453 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 349 points, T:1279, killed by an uninjured orc zombie 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:24503 21:56 [hdf-us] [slex] otc (Che Ang Mal Law), 7183 points, T:3286, killed by a fumarole spores 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:24622 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", on T:24624 22:02 -!- Admin__ has joined #hardfought 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:24771 22:06 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:09 -!- bort13 has joined #hardfought 22:10 [hdf-us] [dyn] bob (ezion) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1189 points, T:2112, killed by a dwarf 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Kokushu, on T:25081 22:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:45315 22:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:45322 22:15 the #knownclass listing for potions appears to be limited to 25 items, but there are 26 potions in the game! 22:16 so if you discover all 26 potions, the last one is omitted from the list (if you list just the potions) 22:20 [hdf-us] [dyn] EZ (ezion) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 248 points, T:611, killed by a rothe 22:21 -!- Umbire is now known as x64 22:22 -!- x64 is now known as Umbire 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:25751 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 33 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:26035 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 58 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:26360 22:38 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 22:43 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] vhorthor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 216 points, T:668, killed by a crossbow bolt 22:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:46372 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 crude daggers on an altar, on T:3531 22:51 last couple times I've tried to convert an altar in evilhack a highpowered minion has come to slay me. Is that guaranteed or am I just unlucky? 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 191 points, T:1111, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 22:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:4237 22:54 yup, Incubus of Anhur. Fortunately my pet handled it 22:54 Might be unlucky 22:54 That can happen when converting altars in vanilla 22:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 2447 points, T:4461, killed by a gnome king 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:27377 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:27378 22:58 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4261 23:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Dro Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:10193 23:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Disruptor (Acu Hum Mal Law), 132 points, T:322, killed by Amon 23:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Rog Vam Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:26354 23:15 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1820 23:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Con Swn Fem Cha) killed Daemon, on T:49129 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] vhorthor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4504 23:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 6514 points, T:9962, killed by a giant mimic 23:39 ...in sokoban as usual 23:40 F 23:40 !booze bouquet 23:40 * Beholder tosses bouquet a schooner of grog, distilled by TheresaMayBot at 65 degrees Fahrenheit. 23:41 sokoban is a trap! 23:42 having so much trouble with evilhack. 23:44 EvilHack sokoban: better mouse trap, better cheese 23:44 (by which I mean, it's the cheese that makes the mouse trap) 23:45 * tinklebear wonders what TheresaMayBot does exactly 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] vhorthor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5391 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] vhorthor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5573 23:49 if you send theresamaybot the right command it opens a phone call to boris johnson 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 250 points, T:2395, killed by an uninjured soldier ant