00:00 * tinklebear shakes head again 00:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:576 00:02 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:9764 00:03 tinklebear: oof 00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1593 points, T:1844, killed by a jellyfish 00:07 ...why would you consent... 00:07 That's beyond Classic Blunder territory 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:15720 00:09 there's a murky territory between muscle memory and deliberate decision. a lot of this game --for me-- is about exploring that territory 00:11 so, the answer to "why would you " often is simply "Habit." 00:13 -!- Admin__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13 -!- Admin__ has joined #hardfought 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:16415 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16416 00:18 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:17008 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:17129 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:17450 00:25 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10796 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "fixed greased magic marker", on T:48696 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "fixed greased magic marker", on T:48697 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by wounded Vlad the Impaler), on T:17888 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by wounded Vlad the Impaler), on T:18018 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:18021 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:18022 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:18365 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:18595 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:18596 00:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed unicorn horn", on T:2852 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:18648 00:54 What the heck? I got a cursed one! 00:54 Bad luck. 00:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2397 points, T:2862, zombified by a unicorn horn, while praying 00:55 Always check your luck before wishing, kiddos 00:55 ...oh wow, that's shit 00:55 Unless it was an emergency wish which 00:55 ...that's shit 00:55 (but different) 00:56 It was an emergency wish from a magic lamp. 00:56 No way I'd wish for a unicorn horn otherwise. 00:56 I should've wished for extra healing instead. 00:56 Zombies are tough in evilhack. 00:57 Aye, they consistently scare the piss out of me 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased ring of conflict", on T:18731 00:59 Umbire: It also sucks that often in the early game, the only recorse is to pray. 00:59 Yeah, it's why I've been giving them as wide a berth as I could 00:59 Which then sucks if you've recently already prayed. 00:59 Thnakfully I have a pick-axe and unihorn 00:59 * Umbire should resume his playthrough tomorrow 00:59 Yeah, I need to avoid them much more often, usually I try to cast force bolt at them as soon as possible. But my Pw is usually too low. 01:00 I should probably more actively avoid them. 01:00 Yeah, that's a last resort play in your case 01:00 Especially if you can't stash the corpse anywhere 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:18787 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:18788 01:01 In that case, in that game, what I did was I killed the zombie. (Already TermIll, anyway). Prayed - God got angry... So I then drank all my potions, starting with the unidentified potions, then applied the magic lamp. 01:02 I rarely have a helm either this early. 01:02 Iron is easy, but iron blocks my psionic attack. 01:03 New game I practically started with a bone skull cap, which is just perfect. :) Still, that doesn't quite prevent TermIll. 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of opposite alignment", on T:18908 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:18911 01:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:20280 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:48825 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:48883 01:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 218 points, T:412, killed by a gas spore's explosion 01:13 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 01:13 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:19673 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] ToneRobin (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker named Cat Throw Up", on T:10729 01:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 01:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:22 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:20042 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:20161 01:30 <@luxidream> bruh 01:30 bruh? 01:30 <@luxidream> oops I guess you can't see what I'm replying to 01:30 Unfortunately 01:31 <@luxidream> the two deaths to vlad the impaler 01:31 Oh yeah was gonna comment on that but then decided the shower was more important 01:31 But new Vlad does not at all fuck around 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] ToneRobin (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:11226 01:32 Ooh, Tone's playing 01:32 <@luxidream> no 01:32 <@luxidream> that's tonerobin 01:36 <@luxidream> !whereis tonerobin 01:36 @luxidream: [hdf-us] ToneRobin [nh370]: (Val Hum Fem Neu) T:11646 The Dungeons of Doom level: 11 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:21044 01:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Swn Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:35819 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased wand of death", on T:21161 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:21169 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] ToneRobin (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:12665 01:46 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:11999 01:48 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:51 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:49845 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:49845 01:57 Woah. A gnome shot *five* crossbow bolts. 01:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 721 points, T:1252, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3098 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3277 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a small mimic corpse on an altar of Anu, on T:3282 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:3282 02:01 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:50117 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:50122 02:05 <@luxidream> !whereis Tommo 02:05 @luxidream: Tommo is not playing. 02:05 <@luxidream> hrm 02:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 752 points, T:1403, killed by a dwarf lady 02:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8128 02:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:50153 02:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful large cat, on T:13239 02:13 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Arc Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:3196 02:15 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 816 points, T:952, killed by a piranha 02:24 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13440 02:24 Holy frig was that hard 02:25 How so? 02:25 Zoo fight give you trouble? 02:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) averted death (choked on a wraith corpse), on T:50319 02:30 Thidwick pls 02:34 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 02:34 anyone that saved their 370-hdf game can resume 02:36 thx, K2! 02:36 o/ 02:36 gnite all 02:37 G'night! 02:37 Night! 02:41 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 02:41 Umbire: Yah — A wight started causing me problems, I got stunned, and then walked into the middle — then surrounded by wallaroos 02:41 Anyhow, night all! 02:41 Night! 02:41 Be well <3 02:42 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:45 -!- Admin__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4218 points, T:2997, killed by an invisible dwarf 02:53 -!- Admin__ has joined #hardfought 03:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:22 -!- Admin__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 112 points, T:487, killed by a fox 03:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1594 04:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:16 guess i could consider starting a run 04:17 the warmup before the training 04:19 should i really play dwa valk like a scrub 04:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 118 points, T:157, killed by a falling rock 04:20 zomg that will be terrible lol 04:22 <@luxidream> stenno: 04:22 <@luxidream> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789535201452621825/802825054760992808/unknown.png 04:22 <@luxidream> How’s this look 04:22 oh nice 04:22 but aoei will play with curses 04:22 we have different terminal sizes 04:23 <@luxidream> right 04:23 <@luxidream> Let’s work that out an hour before we start 04:23 <@luxidream> I’m sure we can figure out something that looks good 04:23 sure 04:24 <@luxidream> ok I am sleep 04:24 <@luxidream> Get warmed up 04:24 sleep well 04:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1066 04:28 Is there any benefit to carrying food, vs eating it as fast as possible? 04:28 Like, is it possible to 'extend' the food? 04:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2221 points, T:1776, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 04:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 413 points, T:1114, killed by an uninjured orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 04:36 arahael: what do you mean extend 04:36 food rations, cram rations etc. dont go bad 04:36 keep them for when you're hungry/weak 04:37 only corpses go bad 04:37 apart from like lichen and i think acid blob 04:39 No, I mean, you have a finite amount of food. Are you better off gorging as much as you can as early as you can, or does it make sense to ration it out and eat only when you're "hungry" or "weak"? 04:39 I think acid blobs do go bad, too, though I think you might be able to eat those regardless. They eventually disappear. 04:39 i only eat my food when i am hungry or worse 04:40 Yeah, I'm just wondering why. It makes sense to eat it earlier if possible. 04:40 being satiated prevents you from safely eating corpses for resistances 04:41 Is that the only reason to avoid it? 04:41 also there might be situations where you don't get food for quite some time 04:41 Yes! So if you don't think you'll have enough food, it's best *not* to eat yet until you're weak? 04:41 yeah i think so 04:42 I mean, imagine you're going on a hike for 4 days. Do you eat everything on day 1, or do you ration your food so that you have 3 meals a day? 04:42 but not being satiatied is the most important aspect 04:42 Trouble is, food is heavy and minimising weight is more important in the early game, imho, than gaining a little bit of intrinsics. 04:43 (Particularly with max St:18) 04:43 Erm - max St:10 04:43 getting intrinsics is more important 04:43 can't really justify not having 1-2 food rations in inventory 04:43 I seem to struggle with that at the moment quite often. 04:44 keep in mind that you can #pray when weak 04:45 As an absolute last resort, yes. I've been playing evilhack, and you can easily find yourself against a zombie right afterwards. 04:45 Also Illithid. 04:45 not familiar with the food stuff in evil 04:46 arahael: do you eat corpses or no? 04:46 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:2680 04:47 if you eat corpses, then why use up your non-corpse portable food before you need to? 04:47 tinklebear: No way, not unless I have a blessed unicorn horn. At that point, I'm probably OK for food. 04:47 tinklebear: Oh, sorry - yes, I eat corpses... Not zombie corpses, though. 04:48 arahael: I'm not talking about eating insanely stupid coprses like zombies 04:48 I mean, I do get it that you're trying to minimize weight. 04:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1052 04:48 but ... food is useful! 04:48 like, portable food. 04:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1656 points, T:1214, killed by a gnome lady, while sleeping 04:49 Bah. Insta-deathed, fell into a sleep trap. 04:50 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3181 04:51 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 3860 points, T:3219, quit 04:51 also, being satiated means you might choke on a lizard corpse 04:51 tinklebear: If I had a lizard corpse. 04:51 lol. 04:51 you're a spellcaster? 04:52 Yep. 04:52 don't you run into trouble if you don't find food real quick in the early game? 04:52 Exactly the reason for this conversation! :D 04:52 But I do have hungerless casting. 04:53 ah, right! 04:53 I'll remember the next (third) time! 04:53 Unlike monks, but monks do start with a ton of food. 04:53 tinklebear: Hungerless casting is wizard-specific, I think, and even then, your int needs to be at least 17, I believe. 04:54 what does giantslayer do in 3.7.0? 04:55 Slays giants, I assume? 04:55 hasn't been changed, iirc 04:55 pity, thanks 04:56 what does it do in some variants then? 04:56 st: 25 i think 04:56 nope 04:57 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Giantslayer#Variants 04:57 sling in unnethack which gives 18/** lol 05:00 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1264 05:02 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 1962 points, T:1403, killed by a silver shotgun shell 05:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1478 05:09 "It is about time!" The djinni vanishes. 05:09 bruh 05:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2530 05:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2656 05:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4557 05:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:5198 05:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3002 points, T:2070, killed by a bolt of cold 05:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 11620 points, T:5348, killed by an uninjured hobgoblin, while sleeping off a magical draught 05:28 fuck 05:29 that was a really good one 05:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:49 lol 05:49 i know it's 1/5 for magic lamp to fail 05:49 but i get so tilted every time 05:49 i had a lot of other nice stuff so it wasn't that tilting 05:49 but alas 05:49 okey nice 05:49 no sleep resistance so dead 05:49 oh shit lol 05:55 stenno: even in off-hand, you get 18/** 05:55 oh nice 05:57 I didn't do it, it was aaxelb and he took at least some inspiration from sporkhack. I guess STR:25 was not done because of Mjollnir 06:06 bhaak: did you see https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/l3nira/epic_realtime_speedrun_battle_with_live/ ? 06:07 yes 06:07 I already tweeted it 06:08 pressure is on lol 06:09 there will be immense failure 06:10 imagine both of us not ascending after 5-6 hours 06:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 263 points, T:605, killed by a crossbow bolt 06:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 146 points, T:342, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 06:32 ah tonight's entertainment sorted I see 06:32 :-) 06:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 459 points, T:1192, killed by a wounded rock mole 06:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 124 points, T:647, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 06:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Fem Una) had an orcish dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:31765 06:52 You gotta be kidding me 06:57 :c 06:57 dead? 06:58 oh no 06:58 just a shit gift 06:58 hahaha 07:00 lol 07:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1555 07:13 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 07:14 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:15 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "doot doodle a doot do"] 07:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 827 points, T:2641, killed by a heavily wounded pony 07:20 mobileuser "He's an orc, he probably wants some orcish daggers, right?" Moloch agonizing over the latest gift 07:20 rofl 07:26 He hasn't got a lot of imagination, orcish dagger gift number 4 ;-) 07:26 jeez 07:27 better than socks or like soap or something I guess 07:27 or coal 07:27 ay amateurhour 07:27 are u hyped 07:27 I am 07:27 sick 07:27 lol 07:32 FOUR orc daggers? geez 07:35 i might want to have a practice run before we start 07:35 i need to use a smaller terminal than usual unfortunately 07:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:59 okey 4 hours left still 07:59 * aoei has a lot of cooking to do today 07:59 fortunately 4 hours is a lot of time 07:59 i think it works out 08:05 oh it's at 12 est, good to know 08:09 so gnollhack seems to be focusing primarily on the windows gui interface, including... voice acting? https://old.reddit.com/r/roguelikedev/comments/l3fnl1/2021_in_roguelikedev_gnollhack/ 08:11 yeah 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:27646 08:13 i did no such thing! 08:13 >:( 08:14 i am not responsible for what sparky does when im dipping my booze ;) 08:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:36850 08:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Swn Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:38015 08:15 having a pretty good game 08:15 What's Sparky? 08:16 I call pets "Sparky" 08:16 yeah, but what species? 08:16 red dragon 08:16 ah~ 08:16 Poor Oracle. 08:16 surprisingly i haven't lost many scrolls or potions yet lol 08:17 they won't breath attack towards you unless they're confused I think 08:17 like if there's a monster in between you and them, I think they won't 08:17 i lost a few in a potion shop, but avoidable 08:18 very thankful it seems to know it shouldn't breathe through me 08:19 indeed~ 08:26 3.5 hours left 08:26 i feel extremely underprepared lol 08:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3743 08:29 dw same 08:29 well i guess i was practicing a bit more than you recently 08:29 yah.. 08:29 i will go for a walk and try to get my cooking done before we play 08:29 cya 08:29 hf 08:30 U GON GET REKT FAM :V 08:30 <3 08:30 might be 08:30 imagine if we both just die repeatedly 08:30 for 6 hours 08:30 would be a lame result but also funny 08:31 that might also be 08:31 not unlikey 08:31 but 5-6 hours is a lot of time 08:31 i think you asked for a 5-6 hour window 08:31 so 6pm til 11 or midnight 08:31 indeed 08:31 well lets see lol 08:32 i played a bit this morning and just quit the games when i was unhappy with minetown and stuff 08:32 i think its worth quitting games 10-15 minutes in 08:32 idk if quits are allowed or not but i *think* yes 08:33 i think lux just said its just first to win 08:33 yes 08:33 so splat or quit just loses you time 08:33 yes 08:33 okey 08:33 -!- Borto has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:33 are you gonna autoscum aoei 08:33 no lmao 08:33 luxi suggested scumming for 20 con 08:33 also that can take the whole 6 hours just to find a wow 08:33 i will scum for con probably 08:34 manually thoo 08:34 no scripties allowed for realtime or racing 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:27789 08:34 count me out then. what's the point of a speedrun competition if you can't even watch the action packed, dramatic autoscumming? 08:34 yes i expected some would be disappointed by that 08:35 whats the chance for 20 con? 08:35 but if i started doing that nobody will watch anything else 08:35 for dwa valk? 08:35 stenno: usually i quit 3-6 times 08:35 it takes like no time at all to scum for 20 con 08:36 k 08:36 Do a speed _streak_ competition: first person to complete all roles without splatting wins. 08:36 jona nobody is gonna do that 08:36 that might take months or years 08:36 ... 104 years later ... 08:36 dont be silly :P 08:37 That should cut down on the scumming. 08:37 tariru could do it 08:37 i have something nifty planned for junethack though 08:37 Wait, why is nobody gonna do it? 08:37 luxi could maybe do it too 08:37 I just said all roles, not, like, all race/role/alignment combos or anything. 08:37 9-streak or so during tnnt 08:37 jonadab: ok i guess but it still takes too for an event people watch 08:37 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2058 08:37 Hmm. 08:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:44980 08:38 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:38 at that point it's basically a test of if you can reliably streak all roles, not how fast you can do it 08:38 yah 08:38 and few players clear that bar 08:38 Maybe just pick out a subset of the roles then. 08:39 Say, Valk, Wizard, Tourist. 08:39 Or Samurai, Ranger, Priest. 08:39 Something like that. 08:39 ypid 08:39 you'd have to train quite a lot for that and even then its also luck-based 08:40 Hmmm. 08:40 the (classic) doom theme song always plays in my head whenever i descend into valley of the dead 08:40 What role do speedrunners usually use? 08:40 valk 08:40 valk sam barb 08:40 wiz as well 08:40 i like my tnnt challenge i did in december 08:41 tell us again how you got number 2 in tnnt :^) 08:41 man I 08:41 all roles, all races, great human, great orc, great gnome in 13 days 08:41 am looking forward to this stream 08:41 it will be a disaster 08:41 no matter what happens it's gonna be so much fun 08:41 if it goes terribly -> fun 08:41 if it goes well -> fun 08:42 only thing i really hope for is no early wow 08:43 why are wows even randomly generated 08:43 you already get one 08:43 some variants remove them 08:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:38343 08:43 i like fourks scrolls of wishing (as i probably said a dozen times already lol) 08:44 what's good about them? 08:44 firstly, as the game designer you can distribute guaranteed wishes all over the dungeon 08:45 secondly, you have a very specific number of wishes for each game 08:45 much easier to balance 08:45 you're basically describing the xnethack approach; the only difference is they're still wands because I didn't want to come up with an even more powerful effect for "blessed wishing" 08:46 just have the buc status not matter? :P 08:46 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 08:46 well cursed scroll must fail 08:46 obviously cursed wishing should not work right 08:46 fine, just have the bu status not matter? :P 08:47 so then people would say, what about blessed? maybe it can 08:47 just make something unrelated 08:47 enlightenment or so lol 08:47 well, how does it work with wands atm? just do that 08:47 e z 08:47 any complaints, direct to /dev/null 08:48 i'd be totally fine with no further effect for blessed 08:49 i don't think anyone would complain as its like the vanilla wow buc effects like amateurhour said 08:49 what does confused scroll of wishing do in fourk btw? 08:49 i hope its something hilarious 08:49 uncursed = doesn't respect modifiers on wish (e.g. "blessed", "greased", enchantment), and blessed can be the regular wand of wishing effect? 08:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] SrinivasSamJespe (Und Hum Fem Law), 1382 points, T:1871, killed by a bugbear 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:28927 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:18634 08:50 why would any player read uncursed scroll then 08:50 maybe in edge cases like atheist 08:50 it's a good point 08:50 why would anyone rub an uncursed magic lamp 08:51 to polish it for when guests are coming over 08:53 right, you don't want to make blessed the status-quo wish and nerf uncursed, because then you just make it more annoying to use properly 08:54 ok, then how about uncursed = regular wish, blessed = regular wish + the item you get is fully identified 08:54 reading blessed scroll of wishing exercises wisdom Kappa 08:54 very small bonus on top, but maybe helpful 08:54 oh yeah that sounds good 08:54 so you'd probably bless your scroll for marker wishes specifically 08:54 I hope you realize you're falling into the exact pattern I described 08:55 its really fine without any further effect 08:55 "sure we can have buffed blessed wishing, just do x" 08:55 there's no confused reading effect in fourk apparently 08:56 what would a funny effect be 08:56 revgeno random monster? 08:56 oh i know, revgeno paper golem 08:56 (even though not normally possible) 08:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 12366 points, T:7030, killed by a warhorse 08:58 unrelated, i really have to use ring of poly into sink to get altar or throne 08:58 i forget that thats possible 08:58 oh that's another thing. making it a scroll, now you need a (powerful, unique) confused effect 08:58 no you don't 08:58 aosdict: its just for fun, you don't _need_ it 08:58 simpler to just keep it as a wand and zap zap 08:58 fourk doesn't have a confused effect 08:58 stenno: no but then people pester you with suggestions for the missing effects 08:59 or still make it a scroll, use the cool distribution features i mentioned, and don't have a blessed or confused effect 08:59 I admit it does have a small advantage in that now you can't effectively wish while confused. 08:59 redirect complaints to the usual place 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Odin, on T:10138 09:00 btw if you want a non-ironic suggestion as to what a confused effect could be 09:00 gift from your god 09:00 i think he doesn't want a non-ironic effect 09:00 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00 okay then random wish 09:01 or... as suggested before, nothing 09:01 amateurhour: forced breakage of atheist? harsh 09:01 i like my revgeno paper golem suggestion 09:01 noone forced you to read a scroll of wishing when confused lol 09:02 might as well call it forced breakage of wishless in the same way 09:02 its something that is not normally possible, and its rather powerful as you get scrolls, and it would even be worth reading it confused on purpose for low-resource runs 09:03 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 09:04 * stenno wishes for an amulet of life saving (being worn) 09:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:38795 09:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:38796 09:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45664 09:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:38797 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 593 points, T:840, killed by an uninjured gnome 09:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:45666 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Cen Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10440 09:07 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 09:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:45769 09:11 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 09:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1432 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 189 points, T:587, killed by an uninjured water demon 09:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:9, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 09:14 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 09:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 101 points, T:216, killed by a boulder 09:16 got bitten by werejackal, turned into jackal at the next tunr 09:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1579 points, T:2615, quit 09:17 nice 09:17 20 con is kinda op ngl 09:17 its like, 51 hp at XL 4 09:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:46015 09:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:46017 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a small mimic, on T:10827 09:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Fem Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:33328 09:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:45452 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:29987 09:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided class U, on T:39348 09:26 Merlek ascends on NAO and 45 minutes later they kill hpom on hdf... 09:27 they often have multiple games on the go 09:28 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 3548 points, T:2385, done in by a bear 09:28 even on different hardfought servers 09:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Necromancer, on T:46740 09:30 why do all wizards become necromancers at some point in their development 09:31 <{Demo}> pisses me off 09:31 <{Demo}> slashem changes the rank name iirc 09:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 384 points, T:687, killed by an uninjured giant bat 09:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1086 09:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1295 points, T:1126, quit 09:37 'mine'town 09:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 479 points, T:1057, killed by an uninjured gnome 09:42 morning 09:42 <{Demo}> morning k2 09:42 K2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBmEeojfKo 09:42 <{Demo}> coldest morning of the winter so far here I think 09:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5 09:43 stenno lol 09:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1086 09:44 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7485 points, T:6027, killed by a giant spider 09:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:40225 09:46 "they"? now i feel all schizo. 09:46 and hi btw :D 09:46 hello :P 09:47 how many games do you have on the go now? :P 09:48 haha just the one I think :D although I haven't logged on to au.hdf for a while, so who knows :P 09:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:40798 09:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:47704 09:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2574 09:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 544332 points, T:41052, killed by a touch of death 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of cloth gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:12698 09:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3016 09:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5342 points, T:3647, killed by a wounded ogre lady 09:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:47863 09:59 t minus 2 hours 10:00 imagine me starting a run now and being on the asc run with a very good time when the race starts 10:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:47874 10:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:47921 10:07 that woudl be p sweetr 10:07 i thin you should do so 10:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1755140 points, T:47941, ascended 10:08 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Merlek/nethack/dumplog/1611261666.nh.html 10:08 grats Merlek 10:09 thanks! 10:09 another one, nice 10:11 wonder if i still have time to cook even 10:11 brb 10:13 congrats Merlek 10:13 \o/ 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:31538 10:14 heh thanks :) 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 Blessed scrolls of charging", on T:31539 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3148 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3203 10:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:42036 10:21 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 10:21 oh... maybe i shouldn't just eat cream pies... but they're so good!! 10:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 Aegis", on T:47913 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:21355 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21358 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4492 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "+2 blessed fixed speed boots", on T:31543 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 Grayswandir", on T:19759 10:38 wow im so sleepy 10:38 maybe i will have a nap first 10:39 <{Demo}> dont oversleep! 10:39 Eat some elves 10:40 <{Demo}> or a ring of free action 10:41 i have an alarm hopefully that will do the trick 10:41 i might also go to the gas station to buy 10:41 !rng club mate | mountain dew 10:41 aoei: club mate 10:41 Beholder: are you secretly stenno 10:42 good bot 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:22057 10:42 did the bot just tell you to assault a friend? 10:42 bad bot 10:43 club seal 10:44 now i feel bad for saying that 10:44 i love almost every animal 10:45 the joke was that clubbing seals is bad 10:45 it wouldn't be funny if you were really instructing us to club seals :P 10:45 can't feel bad about it 10:45 v_v 10:46 an image to lift ur spirits 10:46 https://fastly.4sqi.net/img/general/200x200/Hl2U5ghSIxsn54OeVBANudZSmgSa1Kr1aPSBBfHB0hU.jpg 10:47 yay 10:48 1h15 10:48 getting nervous? 10:48 i am already nervous the whole day lol 10:48 not really used to getting my runs commentated lol 10:48 nothing to be nervous about, you'll be alright 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5844 10:49 everyone should just be aware that there is the possibility of total failure, no ascensions and jsut a few hours of earlygame splats 10:50 we are all aware 10:50 and even if that's the case it'll still be fun so don't sweat it 10:51 ok, thanks 10:52 my current favorite animal and the epitome of relaxedness https://cdn.britannica.com/79/191679-050-C7114D2B/Adult-capybara.jpg 10:52 they are very zen 10:52 yes 10:53 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3487 10:55 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3599 10:57 is artiwish worth the risk after the first artifact is generated? i have a massive pile of create monster stuff, could sacrifice for a better weapon maybe? 10:57 <@luxidream> stenno, aoei, y’all here? 10:58 pretty sure it's still guaranteed with 1 arti generated? 10:58 i am here 10:58 aoei went to the shop quickly luxi 10:58 aoei sleeps i think 10:58 or having a nap 10:58 <@luxidream> ugh 10:58 one more hour 10:58 <@luxidream> Ok 10:59 nervous luxidream? 10:59 <{Demo}> blood will be spilled 10:59 <@luxidream> Nope 10:59 <@luxidream> Just need to work out the term sizes 10:59 oh yes, lookingat the wiki again, misread the chart 10:59 <@luxidream> So that it looks OK 10:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating an iguana corpse, on T:3213 10:59 I'm gonna be taking a shot if either stenno or aoei splats 10:59 <@luxidream> Bad idea 10:59 and hoping that doesn't happen too much 11:00 maybe i can just finish this game with snickersnee and long sword.... dunno if i need anything better 11:00 rip ur liver 11:00 define 'splat' though 11:00 <{Demo}> this better be better than the McGregor fight last night 11:00 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3609 points, T:3726, slain by a Woodland-elf 11:01 talented british actor Ewan McGregor got into a fight? 11:01 if i die after 10 pm i will not start another run 11:01 10 pm my time 11:01 <@luxidream> Post Medusa death 11:01 hmm, that seems a lot more reasonable than what I was going to propose 11:01 so i technically have 4 hours to get a good run going 11:01 sounds doable 11:01 which was "not a #quit" 11:01 lol then 11:01 rip ur liver 11:02 rip test 11:02 riposte 11:02 ripperoni pizza 11:02 wow rip that 11:03 @luxidream i am 80x25 11:04 !who 11:04 winny: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] winny [nh370] tinklebear [nh370] nightjerle [nh370] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] Merlek [nh370] Raisse [nh343] | [hdf-au] No current players 11:06 as i will leave the channel for the time of playing, i wonder how i should handle it if aoei wins 11:06 <@luxidream> I know you are 11:06 should i just stop then 11:06 i mean like someone would have to poke me that the race is over 11:07 <@luxidream> if you're close to finishing, then finish 11:07 yeah ok 11:07 <@luxidream> I'll hop into irc 11:07 great, thanks 11:09 just a sanity check here, given that samurai is limited to 'basic' skill for silver saber, would it make sense to use a silver saber over long sword in off-hand of #twoweapon? Also would it make sense to artiwish Grayswandir? 11:10 <@luxidream> !whereis winny 11:10 @luxidream: [hdf-us] winny [nh370]: (Sam Hum Fem Law) T:31485 The Dungeons of Doom level: 14 11:10 <@luxidream> winny: skill gives +1 damage per level 11:10 samurai is fine with excalibur 11:10 <@luxidream> make of that what you will 11:11 i have snickersnee presently 11:11 <@luxidream> excal is better 11:12 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 11:13 EvilHack updated (all servers) 11:13 ^ couple bugfixes 11:13 i had some lag spikes earlier, hope they are gone now 11:14 sunday evening 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 220 points, T:383, killed by a boulder 11:18 it appears +7 excali has only one additional dmg average on large, same on small, compared to snickersnee 11:20 <{Demo}> the game with the most fun weapon comparison and options is dnh 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 374 points, T:916, killed by a wounded giant mimic 11:22 winny: it gives drain res, searching 11:22 probably worth it 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7929 11:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1002 points, T:5072, killed by a wand 11:25 aoei: wake up 11:26 we have to do organization stuff 11:26 searching is very much missed from valk excali games i'm so accustomed to 11:26 best thing about exca is drain res 11:26 literal life saver 11:27 my understanding is you basically have to be a potato to have a bad to-hit, or at least have terrible luck, bad stats, or using particularly bad equipment 11:27 i have a cloak of protection, though not a 100% counter 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) became Crom's Envoy of Balance, on T:24078 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2482 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4805 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:1209 11:33 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:34 phew phew phew 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "+2 blessed fixed excalibur", on T:31629 11:38 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 11:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:50332 11:42 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 11:42 Any ideas why i can ssh to nethack@alt.org at my job but nethack@hardfought.org is blocked? Is it a port issue? 11:44 Agrius; can you browse its website at work? 11:44 stenno, aoei, can you login and hit play so I can set up the window sizes please 11:45 sure 11:45 Oh, i didnt think to use browser. I know some sites are blocked but I know alt.org isnt. Im going in soon so I'll try it. Thx! :) 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9991 11:46 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:46 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest83011 11:46 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:47 Agrius; btw alt.org does not appear to support ipv6, while hardfought.org does, if nothing else works try ssh-ing with ipv4 (ssh -4) 11:47 your work also might just hate comcast users 11:48 @winny ohhh.. that would make sense. 11:48 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:48 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest59250 11:48 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:48 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:48 <{Demo}> fight fight fight fight 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3734 points, T:5767, killed by a quasit, while praying 11:48 oh oh oh 11:48 i should run to the gas station and get clubmate and junkfood 11:49 quick quick quick 11:49 Agrius; scratch the comcast bit, hf might have switched to aws... so shouldn't be any issue there 11:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Orcus, on T:47083 11:49 -!- Guest83011 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:50 yeah idk what she is doing 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21105 11:50 @winny thank you for the ipv idea! I didnt know I could do that. 11:50 i can also run alone i guess 11:51 -!- Guest59250 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "+2 blessed fixed helm of telepathy", on T:31651 11:52 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 11:53 Hi hello 11:53 Agrius; hope it works, being depraved of nh is serious business ;) 11:53 Deprived, even! 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1818 points, T:2858, killed by a wounded hill orc 11:54 being depraved applies only to slex 11:54 luxidream: i am ready 11:54 did you go to the gas station already stenno 11:55 yes 11:55 what? so quick, do you live right above it or something? 11:55 its right next to my house 11:55 yeah basically 11:55 nice 11:55 well it has advantages and disadvantages 11:55 luxidream: how do we time the exact start? 11:56 listen for the starter's pistol 11:56 you mean you don't have synchronized atomic clocks? smh 11:56 i have a very good time 11:56 we have a stratum-0 server in the city 11:56 in reality I would imagine you use the server time as shown by the hdf info page 11:56 caesium clock 11:57 Haha Im just happy I have a cubicle job I can play at all :) All that college is finally paying off! 11:57 luxidream: i will start soon 11:57 luxidream: ready? 11:57 I get around the guilt of playing nethack at work, by instead writing code for nethack at work. 11:57 stenno: no 11:57 !time 11:57 stenno: Sun Jan 24 11:57:53 2021 EST 11:57 luxidream: :/ 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:31868 11:58 let's start at 6:05 11:58 exactly 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Priestess, on T:11450 11:58 alright 11:58 I'm starting up the stream now 11:58 !time 11:58 stenno: Sun Jan 24 11:58:48 2021 EST 11:59 aoei: wheeeeere aaaaaaare yoooooouuuuuu 11:59 right here 11:59 cutting it close ;) 11:59 wow 11:59 oh we start 5 min late heh 11:59 !time 11:59 stenno: Sun Jan 24 11:59:37 2021 EST 11:59 if stenno wins i might not notice til i complete whatever run im on 11:59 because im not gonna be listening to the stream 11:59 me neither 11:59 or checking IRC much 12:00 i depend on luxidream 12:00 !time 12:00 stenno: Sun Jan 24 12:00:06 2021 EST 12:00 luxidream: aoei is here 12:00 <@910rd> can't you be #mailed ? 12:00 but if you watch the stream you'll know where stenno is hiding and you can snipe him 12:00 oh maybe we should turn mail off 12:00 imma do that quickly 12:00 unless thats a nao-only option 12:01 hype! gl to both of you 12:01 im pretty sure i have mail off 12:01 i have it off too now 12:01 !time 12:01 stenno: Sun Jan 24 12:01:46 2021 EST 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:21475 12:02 !time 12:02 stenno: Sun Jan 24 12:02:55 2021 EST 12:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10 points, T:5, zapped herself with a wand 12:03 !time 12:03 stenno: Sun Jan 24 12:03:24 2021 EST 12:03 why is there a notification thing that says 26 if I don't have an account on twitch 12:03 oh there are 26 ads??? 12:03 wow they got me good 12:03 !time 12:03 stenno: Sun Jan 24 12:03:56 2021 EST 12:04 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone skull cap on an altar, on T:4214 12:04 before you can watch the stream you must sit through 26 ads, like if you were going to the movies 12:04 !time 12:04 stenno: Sun Jan 24 12:04:50 2021 EST 12:04 !time 12:04 stenno: Sun Jan 24 12:04:58 2021 EST 12:05 go 12:05 i think 12:05 yes, go! 12:06 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2422 12:07 wow it's really hard to watch two games at once 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:9520 12:08 Wait wait wait where do I waaaatch! 12:08 https://www.twitch.tv/luxidream 12:08 luxidream: stenno is a dwarf, isn't he? he has showrace on and he's an 'h' 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Mitra, on T:13260 12:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1199 12:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:09 so apparently https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3213 is canon 12:10 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 12:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1313 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] winny (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:31903 12:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1117 points, T:2476, poisoned by a killer bee 12:11 rip stream 12:11 what happened 12:11 luxidream: the stream went down? 12:12 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- anxiety617 has joined #hardfought 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5485 points, T:4564, zombified by a human zombie 12:14 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10038 12:15 -!- spleen has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:15 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:18 go strimmers go! :3 12:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3453 12:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3486 12:18 you really can't set up 2fa on twitch without giving them your phone number 12:18 ?? 12:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3938 12:20 not worth it to me just to chat 12:22 I have chat already 12:24 -!- Kontroll1r has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a Woodland-elf corpse, on T:4624 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1452 12:25 I can't even figure out how pull up the chat, I guess I'm going to give up on it lol 12:26 -!- Agrius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 35185 points, T:11019, killed by a wounded hell hound 12:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2190 12:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2400 12:33 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:29269 12:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 13225 points, T:5870, killed by a wounded gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster 12:37 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 12:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4364 12:39 I don't have any clue how to pronounce aosdict either 12:39 "assdick" 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nightjerle's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2598 12:39 :D 12:40 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/d9c7a7b13 mwahahahahaha 12:40 I love how this game keeps growing perpetually 12:40 qt: I always pronounced it 'ay-oh' not 'ow' 12:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1566 points, T:2161, killed by a wounded fire ant 12:41 -!- anxiety617 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:41 oh hey my double shop themed room got featured in the stream 12:42 Go team aosdict! 12:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:4609 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 794 points, T:3114, killed by a wounded dingo 12:44 like chaos dict without the ch? 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2989 12:47 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:13784 12:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1445 12:48 idk qt I just used a random letter generator 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3039 12:49 well, that's how I will pronounce it in all the conversations I have about you 12:49 which are myriad and frequent 12:49 I'm playing splicehack, and I encountered an odd room 12:49 luxidream should refer to me as copperwater, much easier to pronounce and possibly more confusing 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:29988 12:50 It was on the third or fourth floor of the dungeon, and was set up like the oracle's room, but without any oracle or anything like that 12:50 Just a room, with another room inside 12:50 that's one of the new special rooms 12:50 What is it? 12:50 it's called "fake oracle" I think 12:50 just a special room that looks like the oracle's room 12:50 or "room in a room" 12:50 Ah. What fun! 12:50 :D 12:50 "The Room" 12:50 * Deathsushi searches for Tommy Wiseau 12:51 I've not played much Barbarian — I'm at level 10. What should I be aiming to get my AC down to? 12:51 It's currently -2 12:51 Could bring it down like 3-4 more points probably 12:52 What's your armor looking like? 12:52 Nothing special right now — I'm just at the point where I'm going to start doing a water prayer, diluting potions, and then begin blessing and ID'ing thing 12:52 s 12:52 Ooh, the wife is calling — back in a while 12:52 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3557 12:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2592 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:30014 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3582 12:54 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 darts on an altar, on T:3589 12:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2871 12:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:6642 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Scruffy, his faithful little dog, on T:1002 12:56 !coffee 12:56 * Beholder passes nabru a mug of Blend 43, excreted by Athame at 90 degrees Celsius. 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:3391 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law), 39 points, T:62, killed by an uninjured fox 12:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (sharks), on T:7260 13:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided giant eels, on T:7418 13:01 wow 2 free genos 13:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:7470 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:5432 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:24007 13:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4775 13:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:7644 13:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:8007 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2209 points, T:4033, killed by a rabid dog 13:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 holy charging", on T:8280 13:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy bag of holding", on T:8283 13:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:8288 13:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 16648 points, T:6623, killed by a death ray 13:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3041 13:17 short break 13:17 sorry stenno :( 13:17 :/ 13:17 stenno: unlucky dude! you still got this! 13:17 oof 13:17 that was so unlucky 13:17 rip 13:17 ;A; 13:17 F 13:18 I'm impressed by luxidream's ability to call all these stats to mind 13:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6168 13:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:20 aoeis run seems to go a little bit better 13:20 i suddenly got an eye strain 13:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:20 think its better now 13:20 stenno: you two have traded the lead back-and-forth a lot, there's still everything to play for :D 13:21 someone tell luxi that aoei wished for bag of holding 13:21 -!- Jinnora has joined #hardfought 13:21 and almost wished for "bag of hodling" but caught herself 13:22 bag of hodling should be a wishing alias for bag of tricks 13:22 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 13:22 You open the bag of hodling... You take out 100 bitcoins. 13:22 aoei even used the sack in Perseus' statue 13:23 doesn't "bag of hodling" just give you "nothing like that exists in the game"? 13:23 does it give you a random bag? why would it be really bad to wish for it? 13:24 to the wizmode mobile 13:24 ok yeah it protects you 13:24 I thought you'd get a random bag 13:24 I guess it's because "bag" isn't an object class 13:25 good thing she didn't wish for "tool of hodling" 13:25 whereas if you wish for "wand of ekjqhroiijr" it'll discard the of prefix and give you random wand 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5753 13:25 qt: funny enough "tool of holding" works 13:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:8980 13:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1474 13:26 winny; i can't reach hardfought on browser but i can with alt.org and -4 didn't help. 13:26 what happens when you try to reach hardfought on browser, Agrius? 13:27 "This site can't be reached" 13:27 aoei: for future speedrun reference, wishing for just "blessed holding" appears to work 13:27 what if you type in the IP directly Agrius? 13:27 like ssh nethack@3.222.125.55 13:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6584 points, T:7084, killed by an uninjured rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:28 Woohoo! That worked!! 13:28 yeah they are probably blocking it via dns as a "gaming site" 13:28 especially since it used to host other games too like counterstrike 13:29 one of the cons of a site that has existed for over 20 years 13:29 Awesomeness 😎 thank you!!! 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master liches), on T:6193 13:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Vam Fem Cha) was given the Singing Sword, on T:4582 13:29 is aoei going to just leave that wand of cold there 13:29 on surtur's level 13:30 that's like, the perfect item 13:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:9521 13:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:9522 13:30 Agrius: you could add something to ~/.ssh/config like Host hdf Hostname 3.222.125.55 User nethack 13:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the clairvoyant changed, on T:54960 13:30 and then you can just do ssh hdf 13:31 all those should be on different lines btw 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:6277 13:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2226 points, T:2497, quit 13:38 3man i am am making really stupid mistakes now 13:39 gotta take a few more minutes to regain my focus again 13:39 ganba 13:39 for sure, you got this 13:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:9930 13:39 even if you fail to bad luck, it's still fun to watch 13:39 you should get somebody to rub your shoulders and towel you off like a boxer between rounds 13:39 hire a cabana boy 13:39 not really bad luck 13:40 stenno: u can do this! :) 13:40 the first run was bad luck 13:40 make sure his name is Juan 13:40 the orc was too 13:40 see if the guy at the gas station will do it 13:40 er ogre 13:40 or /oDeath 13:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the twitching four-armed changed, on T:55162 13:40 yeah eh 13:40 <{Demo}> fuck the dickhead with the wand of death 13:40 but i am playing super sloppy right now 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:16880 13:41 thank you for your kind words everyone 13:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Vam Fem Cha) wished for "cursed fixed +3 godhands", on T:5668 13:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 83 points, T:220, killed by an exploding chest 13:43 don't do chests kids 13:43 not really bad luck 13:43 this comment didn't age well 13:43 LOL 13:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:43 at the beginning it was looking like stenno had all the luck 13:44 so the contest is still ongoing? 13:44 we're only 1:39 in K2 13:44 pfft 13:44 both should have ascended 3-4 times by now 13:44 :P 13:44 <{Demo}> luxi should have commentated hard enough to ascend himself 13:46 Hi K2 13:46 hi 13:46 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 13:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1706 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 82 points, T:136, killed by a giant mimic 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:27, killed by a sewer rat 13:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 2839 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:10739 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:26164 13:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:10813 13:52 it impresses me how much loot a speedrunner manages to find without exhaustively trying to get all the loot they can find 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 196 points, T:256, killed by a dwarf 13:53 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 13:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:11069 13:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:11071 13:55 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 13:56 qt: thank you. I really appreciate the advice. I doubt i can edit the config since it's a work pc but I'll try. 13:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3407 13:58 no problem 13:58 [hdf-us] [ndnh] nabru (Mon Eth Fem Neu), 312 points, T:541, killed by an ammit 13:58 How is it that stenno is being reported on his game actions, but I don't see him in the games in progress? 13:59 are you on hdf-eu 13:59 AH 13:59 No, I think I'm on -us 13:59 yeah I think they're both playing on eu 13:59 Got it 13:59 I love that you can log in and watch peoples games in progress. For the first 15 years of playing NH, I just used Mac Cocoa's tiled version 13:59 It was much more lonely :D 14:00 yeah, I used to play locally too, but after I discovered hdf... never looked back 14:00 yeah, I really like being able to mail people too 14:00 it's just more interesting to play on a server 14:00 it is fun to be able to talk to the person you're spectating 14:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3755 14:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1780 points, T:3760, killed by a nearly deceased soldier ant 14:02 think its time to throw the towel for me 14:02 go team a :( 14:02 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law), 4648 points, T:8521, killed by an elven spear 14:02 aw man :( 14:02 play a wizard :) 14:02 yolo 14:02 * Umbire hugs stenno 14:03 Is Hrnn's game playing in Wizard mode? 14:03 it's still fun to watch stenno 14:03 I'm watching and can't figure out how this is working 14:03 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:03 ya, u had sum epic deaths 14:03 nabru: Agreed. And bones files too? Rad. 14:03 yeah but it's not fun for him to play and I can't really blame him at all 14:03 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 14:03 Umbire: Referring to Hrnn? 14:03 just played bad 14:04 Deathsushi: what weird stuff is happening in Hrrn's game? 14:04 He's walking over top of the zoo in Sokoban 14:04 Like, without attacking or engaging with any of the mobs 14:04 you didn't play bad you got majorly ganked by rngesus 14:04 Oh, maybe he's just farlooking 14:04 Isn't he using farlook (;)? 14:04 yeah I think so 14:04 Yeah, you're right qt, thanks 14:05 wow that was really weird, my headphones just shocked my ears 14:05 Ouch 14:05 D: 14:05 that'll wake ya up 14:05 stenno: you don't know if aoei is going to splash. 14:05 This is odd — I'm playing Splicehack variant, and I notice taht my Sokoban levels have been rotated 180 degrees 14:05 Is this a feature of that variatn? 14:05 variant* 14:05 stenno: I learnt a bunch from watching you play, thank you! 14:05 stenno: it's only over when someone has won. 14:05 Or does Sokoban do this sometimes 14:06 i put my left aarm in in a strange position and i lost the feeling at it right now 14:06 it comes down from recent vanilla changes Deathsus 14:06 bhaak: Can you share some of what you got? 14:06 can't really play anyway 14:06 Deathsushi: it's a (unpopular) 3.7 vanilla feature 14:06 spiceycebolla: AH! They rotated just to mix it up? 14:06 somehow my whole circulation is really strange since a few hours 14:06 Ye 14:06 come watch aoei then 14:06 sorry to hear that stenno 14:06 take a break 14:06 Flipoban annoys people because lol muscle memory 14:06 stenno do u have remove curse 14:06 I'll come watch aoei — which server? 14:06 if she splats you can always rejoin the race 14:06 rotating sokoban is such a crappy way to simulate added variety 14:07 spicy: Agreed 14:07 yeah i will take some more break 14:07 a few hours are still left 14:07 if aoei splats i can still win 14:07 heya attie 14:07 long time no see 14:07 Which server is aoei on, and how do I ssh to a different server? 14:07 Deathsushi: aoei is playing on hdf-eu called Stella 14:07 but i lost my mojo 14:07 ssh nethack@eu.hardfought.org 14:07 get yourself some tea/coffee/club mate :) 14:07 Beuty — thank you! 14:07 yeah I don't have irc on my main PC 14:07 so I've been rather absent 14:07 easy fix :) 14:08 why does everyone want people to club their mates 14:08 can you recommend a good client for mac os? 14:08 weechat with homebrew :P 14:08 attie: terminal 14:08 attie: I'm on textual 14:08 Which is decent 14:08 * FIQ bludgeons aosdict with a fish 14:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:13009 14:08 I think irssi runs on macOS 14:08 I want something that gives notifications 14:08 I guess someone polymorphed my club 14:08 weechat makes ding 14:08 otherwise I just forget irc exists 14:08 oh irc, not nethack 14:08 Wow, aoei plays FAST 14:08 attie until you settle on a program to use, there's always this - https://webchat.freenode.net/ 14:09 I use weechat on tmux 14:09 irssi is nice n simple :) 14:09 I use mIRC on windows 10 *BECAUSE I LIKE IT* 14:09 cool 14:09 pre-emptive 'fuck off everyone' 14:09 :P 14:09 I used mIRC back in the day 14:09 is mIRC not cool anymore? 14:10 A friend actually bought mIRC 14:10 mIRC was my client back in the Windows days 14:10 I used mIRC on Windows back in the day 14:10 when he stopped using it, he gave me his license key 14:10 but I quit Windows as my main OS many years ago 14:10 so I didn't have to deal with the annoying nag screen 14:10 yeah i paid for a license 14:10 one time thing so why not 14:10 imagine paying for stuff 14:10 nabru: I still used mIRC for a long time after stopping using Windows 14:10 aosdict: joking or not knowing the hip beverage 14:10 Not as my main IRC client 14:11 but because it was the only way to keep my IRC bot running 14:11 i will continue in ab it 14:11 Can someone tell me what on earth aoei is doing? Like, it looks like they're in Genhemmon, and using a ring of conflict, primarily, to get mobs to fight each other? 14:11 glad to hear it stenno! 14:11 Deathsushi: if you listen to the stream luxidream is commentating 14:11 i've tried irssi and weechat, i'm just so used to mIRC 14:11 Deathsushi: This seems like a sensible thing to do 14:11 Pinkbeast: Message from @FIQ at 2021-01-23 22:38 EST: would inter-level travel even be useful in NetHack? given how often monsters may interrupt you 14:11 and the bot was useful for a flash game I played for a long time for helping track various stuff related to guild management 14:11 been using it since the mid 90's 14:11 Where's the stream? 14:11 https://www.twitch.tv/luxidream 14:12 Thank you 14:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:13273 14:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:13273 14:12 FIQ: inter-level travel is useful in DCSS even if monsters interrupt you; you just do 'G [Enter]' to resume the journey. 14:12 aoei you're too slow. hurry up 14:12 FIQ: when i put it in tmux most of the colors go away. and when i tried setting term to 256colors it said that file doesn't exist or something like that 14:13 spicycebolla: try TERM=screen-256color weechat-curses 14:13 It would be _less_ useful in NetHack because of the smaller levels and spawn rate, but still better than schlepping to your stash manually. 14:13 in tmux 14:13 Hi FIQ 14:13 spicycebolla: or export TERM=tmux-256color 14:13 Hi attie 14:14 2h8 for aoei atm? 14:14 That's right 14:14 Are you out of the race now Stenno? 14:15 got dead yes 14:15 Was this kind of like a competition? You both started at the same time to see who could ascend fastest? 14:15 yes 14:16 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/l3nira/epic_realtime_speedrun_battle_with_live/ 14:16 Thanks guys — appreciate the info ❤️ 14:16 Deathsushi: nah i will continue in a bti 14:16 Right so you can rejoin at any point 14:16 have to fix my blood circulation first 14:16 Haha yes 14:17 I'm looking forward to watching you! 14:17 everyone squish stenno 14:17 group hug, stenno in the middle 14:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:17 yay stenno 14:17 Everyone knows you need to wear a compression suit when playing Nethack 14:17 no, no, its fine 14:17 Pinkbeast: but doesn't NetHack stop you constantly? unlike dcss where you can get past several levels before something stops you 14:17 i said GROUP HUG 14:17 :P 14:17 Why is it that aoei has zero gold? 14:17 And is leaving all of the gold pieces she walks over on the ground? 14:18 You can't get out of the group hug. It's cursed. 14:18 <{Demo}> yeah its cold, group hug 14:18 I think she put it on a bag, Deathsushi 14:18 no hugs! remember covid! 14:18 Ah got it 14:18 lol 14:18 Deathsushi: at some point gold ceases to matter, it just weighs you down 14:18 FIQ: I don't think the difference in interruption rate is _that_ great. 14:18 infinigon: When would I start to plan for that? 14:18 Is there any kind of indicator? 14:18 Also once you get enough protection gold doesn't really matter much 14:19 But regardless, between interruptions I'd rather type G Enter than hjklyubn my way to the next one 14:19 once you have enough protection, you don't need gold, really. maybe for bragging rights when you ascend 14:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:13738 14:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy fixed +3 helm of opposite alignment", on T:13741 14:20 after the VotD the only reason you'd still want to carry gold is for bribing certain demon lords 14:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2796 14:20 well aoei just passed my PB 14:20 so there's that at least :P 14:20 and then after that... no real reason at all, exception being trying to plus up your end game score 14:21 well you could use it to top up on clairvoyance right? 14:21 alright i will watch aoei and if she splats i will try agian 14:22 qt that too yeah 14:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:13845 14:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:13848 14:25 my headphones keep shocking my ears, what could be causing that? 14:26 I have another monitor connected and every once in a while the monitor turns off then back on, and a second later my headphones zap me 14:26 are they wired or wireless? 14:26 wired 14:26 well... maybe some loose wire? or soemthing shorted? 14:26 *something 14:26 qt: Electricity shocking you is NO BUENO 14:26 I am a no thank you to that 14:26 it is happening in tandem with the monitor rebooting itself, very weird 14:26 That is the end of headphones for me 😄 14:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:14109 14:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3085 14:27 I guess I will switch to wireless headphones 14:27 it will be interesting to see if the monitor rebooting still happens with the wired headphones disconnected 14:28 eh 14:30 Is the idea that once you have the Amulet of Yendor, and are climbing back up, that you just kill Rodney with a death wand every time he shows up? 14:30 pretty much 14:33 Got it 14:33 And how many scrolls of magic mapping do you ideally want? 14:34 Oh yeah Sushi's getting majorly spoiled here 14:34 lol 14:34 I've never gotten anywhere near this far 14:34 I'll forget it ALL by the time I do, don't you worry :D 14:35 That's my rationale for sure :B 14:35 The farthest I've gotten was to the plane of Air, and only because I lucked out with an early WoW 14:35 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1611231101.nh.txt 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:21176 14:35 !who 14:35 spicycebolla: [hdf-us] ezion [dyn] VaderFLAG [evil] Kevkat [nh370] nabru [nh370] Bond697 [nh370] Hrnn [nh370] nightjerle [nh370] Disruptor [dnh] Som [dnh] | [hdf-eu] AlbertB [nh370] Stella [nh370] Merlek [nh370] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:14997 14:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:15059 14:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:15068 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:91 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 53324 points, T:21293, killed by a heavily wounded leocrotta, while paralyzed by a monster 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "Blessed Greased Fixed +2 Gray Dragon Scale Mail", on T:24 14:43 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bobert (ezion) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 61 points, T:131, killed by a jackal 14:44 So are all of these levels that aoei is climbing up blacked out because she got amnesia'd? 14:44 she dug through on the way down 14:44 Or maybe just teleported to the bottom of Gehennom? 14:44 Oh got it 14:45 For speed 14:45 It's also usually the easiest way 14:45 also amnesia doesn't work like that any more in 3.7 Deathsushi 14:45 qt How does it work? Just make you forget discoveries? 14:46 it makes you forget spells and skills now 14:46 Skills like techniques, or like my ability to use my weaon 14:47 like the stuff in the #enhance menu 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 334 points, T:849, killed by an uninjured giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3558 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 987 points, T:1013, killed by an uninjured invisible dwarf, while praying 14:48 no no no no NONON 14:48 god... 14:49 qt: Right got it 14:49 Wow, aoei cancelled all of their inventory 14:49 This is fascinating 14:57 what does marathon safe mean? 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 293242 points, T:20400, quit 14:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 454872 points, T:17028, killed by a wounded green dragon, while fainted from lack of food 14:58 hahahahahaa 14:58 oh wow 14:58 that was such a shit way to lose rofl 14:58 aoei: oh no 14:58 Dl1 14:58 hahahaha 14:58 Wow aoei 14:58 <{Demo}> rip 14:58 amazing 14:58 rip aoei 14:58 oooof 14:58 <{Demo}> had c corpse too 14:58 i fucked up big time with the cancel wand shit 14:58 u had a chicken! 14:58 What happened? 14:58 {DEMO} FUJCK lol 14:58 Did you miss zap with . or < ? 14:58 ikm an idiot 14:58 hehe 14:58 lol! 14:58 did stenno beat me already or should i go again lol 14:58 there's still time 14:58 He's starting up now 14:58 stenno paused 14:58 he quit a while back 14:58 stenno took a break 14:58 Waited to see if you would win 14:58 because you were so far ahead heh 14:58 interesting 14:58 but he's ready to start again 14:58 <{Demo}> shits funny 14:58 when you are 14:58 <{Demo}> as hell 14:58 u should go on voice n debrief! 14:58 oh man i had that c corpse 14:58 got damn it 14:58 Haha 14:58 no way 14:58 i need to get back in it 14:58 still cant believe it 14:58 to v big mistakes there 14:58 two* 14:58 <{Demo}> oh allegedly stenno started a new game 14:58 aoei: gogog 14:58 alright i bretter go 14:58 next game 14:58 GL! 14:58 both of you! 14:58 GL guys 14:58 qt: as in ready to run in a marathon like GDQ, where the goal is to guarantee a finish, rather than go for the best possible time 14:58 marathon safe is when late-game splat % is close to 0 14:59 -!- AntiGulp has joined #hardfought 14:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v AntiGulp] by ChanServ 14:59 lol, why did Beholder "rip" itself 14:59 it was responding to two messages that came in very close together I think 14:59 aoei: https://imgur.com/AqOpP6P.png did you cancel the prompt? 14:59 or zap yourself directly? 15:00 Just tuned into Lux’s stream in time to see aoei’s death. RIP :( 15:00 hey AntiGulp 15:00 my internet came back just in time to see that AntiGulp said aoei died. RIP 15:00 hey 15:00 Hello AntiGulp, Welcome to #hardfought 15:01 They're going at it again 15:01 hello beholder hardcome to wellfought! 15:01 Can’t have my volume on to hear commentary but I’m so pumped to watch this 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:4001 15:01 AntiGulp: s died to team a once or twice, had to take a break due to loss of blood circulation 15:01 Oooof :( 15:01 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:02 AntiGulp: there was something we needed to tell you but I can't remember what 15:02 I’ve been gone for a while, could be anything 15:02 maybe that patch that spl was missing aosdict? 15:02 aosdict: some bug that's bugging some person. i think they should post it on github instead of trying to ambush AntiGulp when she pops into irc to have fun :P 15:03 was it something about tiles? 15:03 anyway, after S died, awhile later A zapped a wand, possible at self or possibly with a cancelled prompt, and it was cancellation, so death wand was done, excal was +0, BoH was encumberful, eventually rip 15:03 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 15:04 splice is missing this: https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commit/a26c01d8501857a8ff6f5da476773b4d79d0c897 15:04 idk if that was *the* thing but that is a thing 15:04 noted! 15:04 tyty 15:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:61780 15:04 I also wanted to congratulate you on the monster gender tiles thing getting merged, I remember that 15:05 I'm enjoying SpliceHack AntiGulp — thanks for your work! 15:05 didn't realize it was merged until a few days ago 15:05 Aww, thanks Deathsushi! :D 15:05 And thanks aosdict! 15:06 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pony, on T:13799 15:06 I did? 15:06 :D 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2492 15:06 AntiGulp: you unblocked a critical thing I was waiting on for 6.0 ;) 15:07 anyway how did aoei die, because I missed it 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:4543 15:07 aoei accidentally cancelled everything in inventory, and then the wizard caught up to her basically 15:07 :) 15:07 aosdict: wizard of yendor showed up on dlvl1 15:07 Yah 15:07 And she forgot that she'd gotten a cockatrice corpse just before 15:07 self-cancelled with a wand, fighting rodney and fainted starving while fighting rodney 15:07 he would have showed up right after that too 15:08 yeah, not sure she could have recovered from the cancel 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2290 points, T:1754, killed by a wounded orc-captain 15:09 Ah — Cleaver attacks my pets too 15:09 I'm going to attempt to program xnethack and watch the stream simultaneously 15:09 What do I do about that 15:09 -!- lunatunez has joined #hardfought 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1458 15:09 Deathsushi: if you have cleaver you don't need a pet 15:09 leave it on another floor 15:09 Don't worry about curse testing and stuff? 15:10 you can tame a new pet after you have a few items to test, or just hit an altar 15:10 Got it 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 19799 points, T:10042, killed by an uninjured rothe, while praying 15:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3302 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5231 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:5283 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering a gnomish wizard corpse on an altar of Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5291 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1668 points, T:1670, killed by a heavily wounded giant mimic 15:17 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1800 points, T:3949, killed by a dingo, while fainted from lack of food 15:17 Is there any consequences to digging the fountains by the oracle? 15:18 DeathSushi: Nope 15:19 Well, you might drown the oracle in a pool of water. 15:19 is that possible? I thought the water only comes out in a checkerboard pattern 15:20 and the oracle isn't at a diagonal from any of the fountains 15:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Rat King, on T:35607 15:21 I've definitely done it before. where did you hear about this checkerboard pattern 15:21 idk I just thought it did that, I don't think I heard about it 15:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7015 points, T:5057, killed by a heavily wounded invisible gargoyle 15:22 What do I want earmuffs for? 15:22 Avoiding sonic attacks 15:22 qt: it's a checkerboard pattern, but relative to the entire level, not the fountain 15:22 On that note does Splice have mandrakes...? 15:23 I don't think so? 15:23 No, but it should :) 15:23 one thing that unconditionally kills the pool generating is (x + y) % 2 15:23 but those are absolute coords 15:23 oh ok, does the oracle's position ever change or is she always fixed at a (x + y) % 2 spot 15:24 Does a blessed scroll of identify, when it hits ALL items, also get items in containers? 15:24 Deathsushi: No 15:24 Ah, nevermind, wiki tells me no 15:24 Yah, thank you 15:24 AntiGulp: if you add mandrakes, consider tricks people pull like in dnh where they set off a mandrake in ludios and wipe out nearly everything 15:24 I had no idea dnh had mandrakes 15:24 I kinda got into chess and haven’t touched nethack in a little while outside of streaming 15:25 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:14169 15:25 AH COME ON 15:25 <{Demo}> replace soko with chess puzzles in splicehack plz 15:25 I took every precaution, and didn't even consider that I had a second bag of holding :D 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hrnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:16430 15:25 * Deathsushi sighs 15:25 I haven't played chess in a really long time 15:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3090 15:25 On one hand, Demo, yes, on the on the other hand, I’m *really* bad at chess lmao 15:25 oh you should play chess against lux and machinespray 15:26 oh nevermind then don't do that 15:26 don't play against K2 either 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:6355 15:27 what's a good site to play chess online? 15:27 Deathsushi, This is why I always type-name bags 15:27 lichess.org 15:27 years and years ago I played on chess.com 15:27 Ah good call 15:27 And never put one in the other until I do 15:27 but I hear lichess thrown around more now 15:27 is aoei still playing? 15:27 <{Demo}> yeah 15:27 YASI: lichess should have a lich mascot 15:27 yeah she did monkeytown and some price iding 15:28 i like lichess 15:28 anyone remember chessmaster.com? 15:28 orctown again 15:28 I started playing on chess.com recently. Still pretty terrible tho 15:28 -!- Jinnora has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:28 JFC 15:28 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 32726 points, T:14197, quit 15:28 hi AntiGulp 15:29 yo 15:29 spicycebolla you wanna play chess? 15:29 noooooo 15:29 c'mon 15:29 i kinda hate playing chess 15:29 sad face 15:29 I wanna get better at go 15:29 it feels like a game against a given opponent is generally pre determined 15:29 you either paste them or become paste 15:29 i used to be decent at chess, nowadays i am meh 15:29 mobileuser is pretty good 15:29 <{Demo}> i dont like chess its too stressful 15:29 I'm a novice go player, but it's a more interesting game to me now than chess 15:29 <{Demo}> you have to pay WAY too much attention 15:29 I was on my high school's varsity chess team, state champs baby 15:30 i did a ton of losing to my dad and a ton of winning against my sibs and it got boring or fatigueing 15:30 high school qt: "Yeah, I play varsity sports." 15:30 back in the 90's I very briefly earned a masters rating. lasted all of 2 weeks 15:30 never got it back 15:31 <{Demo}> chess just takes too much effort for me 15:31 wow, Stella's getting the luckier run by far 15:32 usable town, good armor, random altar 15:32 it's almost like an unfair race :O 15:32 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 15:33 heyo shopping party for Tufoops at least! 15:33 spicycebolla: I mean, in game 1 before either of them died, stenno was way more lucky. straight to minetown got a blessed magic lamp and +3 SDSM 15:33 If I've confirmed a wand is not cancellation by zapping my pet and having it disappear, am I safe to zap myself to test at this point? 15:33 aosdict: so you're saying individual runs aren't good metrics of skill :D 15:34 -!- Admin__ has joined #hardfought 15:34 both players shopping their hearts out right now 15:34 shopping is the best 15:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:63853 15:35 spicycebolla: Fax 15:36 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Nbn Cha) murdered their faithful kitten, on T:533 15:36 Stupid invisible pets 15:36 stenno pick me up some luncheon meat and cheese while you're out shopping 15:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4197 15:36 luncheon is an inherently funny word 15:37 so is 'moist' 15:37 eww 15:37 * K2 shudders 15:38 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law), 10 points, T:408, burned by molten lava 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 217 points, T:665, killed by a heavily wounded small mimic 15:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:48895 15:41 no, moist is an inherently icky word 15:41 similar, but not the same 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1130 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:7800 15:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1106 points, T:2775, killed by a water moccasin 15:43 it seems ridiculous to me how gamified twitch is, like why is there a number in the corner that is constantly going up and saying I "earned points"? 15:43 When in a store, does it make sense to type identify all of the scrolls and potions based on price? 15:43 -!- lunatunez has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:43 Er, type-name 15:43 yeah but moist brownies, moist cake, moist flaky biscuits 15:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Daemon, on T:49073 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7931 15:43 At least some of them, yeah 15:43 'moist' 15:44 Speaking from vanilla exp. here but there's some scrolls that always have a given price range 15:44 qt: because they have a vested interest in you continuing to watch 15:44 e.g. Identify, light, enchant weapon 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28244 15:45 Great — thank you 15:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5956 15:45 I'm enjoying this stream but the whole twitch interface is really off-putting to me, it's like a pinball machine or something with how hard it's trying to draw you in 15:45 theater mode gets rid of a lot of that, although not the channel points 15:46 <@riker> oh, is luxi live rn? 15:46 I heard luxi saying from the hidden twitch window "I'm fairly new to NetHack" and did a mental double take before I realized he was quoting chat 15:46 <@riker> neat 15:46 riker: luxi is commentating on stenno and aoei racing 15:47 <@riker> ah ok 15:47 thanks for the tip btw Nelennath 15:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed Glasya, on T:49215 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1014 points, T:1912, killed by an uninjured housecat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1483 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed lunatunez's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:8303 15:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:6481 15:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:43783 15:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3322 15:52 qt: if you're using linux, mpv + youtube-dl still works well for twitch 15:52 [hdf-us] [slshm] gt (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 140 points, T:485, killed by an acid blob 15:53 and you can still chat via https://www.twitch.tv/popout/luxidream/chat 15:53 those ring sholy shit 15:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6140 15:53 oh really? how does that work, do you pipe youtube-dl through mpv or something? 15:53 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of RossinK, the former Evoker, on T:2021 15:53 it's actually a default plugin (depending on distro) 15:54 so you can just $ mpv https://twitch.tv/luxidream 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1206 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3406 15:54 but yeah, it boils down to roughly $ mpv $(youtube-dl -g https://twitch.tv/luxidream) 15:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1898 points, T:3110, quit 15:55 yooooo xnethack shoutout 15:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Vam Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:14975 15:56 aosdict: We stan! 15:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6604 15:56 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Nbn Cha), 2410 points, T:3056, sent to the grave by a plains centaur, while helpless 15:56 :c rip 15:57 rip 15:57 this was my last game 15:57 good luck aoei 15:57 for today 15:57 stenno: RNG was trash for you today 15:57 idk 15:57 rip :( 15:57 i played sloppy 15:58 that was fun to watch though, thanks :) hope you race again soon haha 15:58 thanks for participating stenno I enjoyed watching you play 15:58 wasn't so bad. really really bad luck 15:58 stenno: this event had been so great, thanks for some awesome games 15:59 stenno, you did better than you're giving yourself credit for. A lot of that shit was out of your hands 15:59 ggs stenno — Fun to watch you play 15:59 gg stenno! 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nightjerle (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2078 points, T:3765, killed by a wounded raven 16:01 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Nbn Cha), 91 points, T:386, killed by a goblin 16:01 it was super cool playing lol 16:01 lol silver 16:01 next time will be better 16:01 aoei did some great carrying 16:01 luxidream is insanely good at commentating imo 16:01 stenno: agree 16:01 He helped a lot 16:02 heh 16:02 i guess i will try to finish this game still 16:02 Or added to the experience, I should say 16:02 yeah do it 16:02 besides, if i neither wins nobody has won 16:02 so lets see 16:02 i got crazy good soko rings tho holy shit 16:03 40 fucking people watching, thats insanity 16:03 its an honor that so many people are watching 16:04 :D 16:04 Yeah, is good times! 16:06 hmm when I try to watch with mpv it just shows this: https://0x0.st/--cd.png 16:07 Will the highlights be on Sport Center later? 16:09 qt: i had to watch like 25 seconds of advertisement before the actual stream started 16:10 oh yeah it changed after a while and now it's working 16:10 neat 16:11 <@riker> "xodeh0: my nethack doesn't think of everything example: eating a wow doesn't polymorph you into a djinni" gonna tag this as a YANI for aosdict's cache, from luxi's twitch chat 16:11 <@riker> if it's not already there somewhere 16:13 it is not 16:13 that's a funny one 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2379 points, T:4522, killed by a barrow wight 16:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:7724 16:15 I actually want to do something with that luck-eater monster idea I jokingly suggested 16:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7496 points, T:8010, killed by an uninjured barrow wight 16:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:8005 16:19 AntiGulp: burning trees here we come 16:19 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 1628 points, T:2736, murdered by a dwarf 16:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Paladin of Mercury, on T:36639 16:20 funny that luxidream was just talking about that 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] vhorthor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4351 16:21 It’s so surprising that they’re not flammable. Should be in vanilla, imo 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] vhorthor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4368 16:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36646 16:21 look, if you blast a regular, living tree with fire, it won't instantly incinerate 16:22 what if you blast a regular, living tree with a disintegration beam 16:22 get a disintegration bean IRL and we can try :P 16:22 *beam 16:23 anyway it would be pretty easy to modify the spl patch I submitted by adding a if (istree) goto def_case; for whatever effect you want to exclude, if AntiGulp wants to change it later 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] vhorthor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4519 16:24 YASI: Trees explode when exposed to fire 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] vhorthor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4542 16:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50075 16:24 you joke, but trees actually explode when exposed to extreme *cold* 16:25 Imagine how terrifying the ranger quest would become if that was the case 16:26 don't give them ideas! 16:26 it's already terrible! 16:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 211737 points, T:44840, killed by a faded shadowsteel spike 16:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) stole 2201 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Fauske's jewelers, on T:8318 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 39139 points, T:6361, killed by a giant mimic 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5200 16:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "marker", on T:8803 16:33 how does luxidream have all this stuff memorized 16:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:8837 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:13716 16:39 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1859 16:40 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:41 How do I set options in game? 16:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:9498 16:41 Oh found it 16:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:9509 16:42 shift + O I believe? 16:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3381 points, T:3260, killed by a magic missile 16:45 What is the cooldown time on techniques? Or is there somewhere I can find this? 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 13839 points, T:621, killed by a gnome lord 16:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) stole 3003 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ouiatchouane's general store, on T:9813 16:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:9813 16:49 Deathsushi: in splicehack? 16:49 Yeah 16:49 idk, AntiGulp? 16:51 Sorry, just got back. 16:51 Deathsushi: some techniques mention their timers on the wiki https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Primal_roar 16:52 You can get some technique descriptions using the in-game encyclopedia, but timeouts aren’t usually part of that. 16:52 Ah 16:52 Yah, I don't see anything for Berserk 16:52 * AntiGulp considers, yet again, removing techniques 16:52 So I just... hope for the best? 16:52 Not a fan of how they play out? 16:52 Berserk should be same timeout as slash’em, as seen on the wiki. 16:52 I think it just buzzes and tells you the skill isn't ready yet? 16:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:10154 16:53 Or at least I feel like that would make sense 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3488 16:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:10205 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:15673 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3610 16:58 AntiGulp — why remove techniques? 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2203 points, T:3679, killed by a vampire bat, while praying 16:59 more trouble than they're worth probably 16:59 Deathsushi: Even though I spent hours painstakingly porting them from Slash’em, I’ve grown to have some negative feelings about them in terms of game design and cohesion. I keep threatening to remove them, but I doubt I ever will. 16:59 nethack doesn't really have any pressure driving you to move along at a reasonable speed, you can just wait out the cooldowns and reuse things as much as you want 16:59 Yeah 16:59 Ah got it 16:59 So it's their abusability? 17:00 one of them can ID an item for free right? 17:00 rip stream for me 17:00 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 17:00 yeah it turned off for me too 17:00 -!- lunatunez has joined #hardfought 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 11060 points, T:15906, killed by a wounded black unicorn 17:00 and if each new player has questions about the techniques that can't be answered on the wiki or in game, it's a UI issue too, and it's probably not fun to fix a feature that you're not fond of 17:02 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha), 2137 points, T:2789, taken down by a jaguar 17:03 That makes sense 17:03 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1032 points, T:2367, killed by a wounded gnome 17:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Brd Vam Fem Cha), 112125 points, T:18497, quit 17:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:10943 17:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:10945 17:07 !lastgame microlance 17:07 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1611435341.dnh.txt 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Law), 16476 points, T:1290, killed by boiling potions 17:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:50924 17:11 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 17:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:51023 17:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:51045 17:14 +5 cloth light armor on a dwarf in the mines. That seems like an insane level of enchantment 17:14 <{Demo}> good timing rodney 17:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:11330 17:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:11338 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4414 17:17 -!- Agrius1 has joined #hardfought 17:24 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:25 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 17:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:12464 17:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:12464 17:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:12509 17:29 Still at it eh? 17:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 17:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 17:29 I had to AFK to run to the gym - HI AMY <3 17:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:29 - so I had to tap out for the time being 17:29 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 17:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 helm of opposite alignment", on T:12516 17:29 yo Umbire, long tour today and super exhausted :P 17:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:12519 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 25115 points, T:1279, quit 17:30 LarienTelrunya: Saw the thing you did re: the edits, loving it, gonna take some time now to prune them proper 17:30 seven hours of non-stop interviews yay 17:30 Still enough time to watch aoei finish up her run 17:30 Luxi's commentating 17:30 but after that it wasn't the end of my shift, oh no! instead I had to hurry to get to the final train and do that 17:30 heh, twitch is super laggy on my PC and no fun to watch 17:30 bhaak: converted ur mercurial repo to a git repo no problem 17:31 used this tool https://github.com/frej/fast-export 17:31 git log all looking good, author etc all fine 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8733 points, T:139, quit 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a brown mold, on T:3842 17:33 does that mean unnethack finally stops triggering malware alerts when downloading the binary? because malwaresourceforge is prone to causing that :P 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4316 points, T:3888, killed by a shattered potion 17:34 > not downloading the source then compiling it yourself 17:34 can we update your OS to a sane linux distro yet Amy? :) 17:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:12715 17:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Dro Fem Cha), 2196 points, T:2106, killed by a Noviere Eladrin of the deep blue sea, while praying 17:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:12720 17:34 hey, if the developer offers precompiled binaries for my OS then why the hell should I go through the trouble of compiling it myself? 17:37 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed Deathsushi's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:3283 17:37 so how's the speedrun contest, is Flügelbüschelstella winning? 17:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:12843 17:38 the stream is still ongoing if you want to tune in 17:38 LarienTelrunya: yes. she already splatted on Dlvl:1 after cancelling her inventory 17:38 stenno threw in the towel after rngesus slapped him unfairly 17:38 amateurhour: as I said, twitch suxx0rz on my PC 17:38 and aoei has a great game going atm 17:39 wait, so stenno already gave up??? wtf 17:39 it was unbelievable how bad the game was treating them 17:39 twice actually 17:39 not enough time for another run left or just too frustrated with that death? 17:39 nah 17:39 work in the morning 17:39 he gave up twice as the game was wiping the floor with him 17:39 i have to work tomorrow 17:39 AntiGulp, when playing splicehack I've rarely used techniques, and my characters didn't feel too weak 17:39 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law), 11928 points, T:11783, killed by a minotaur 17:40 but also i wasn't really satisfying with my playing overall 17:40 and what did the evil RNG do? place an explosion trap on the castle chest? 17:40 next time will be better 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 16192 points, T:504, killed by an explosion 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 438 points, T:833, killed by an uninjured rothe 17:40 didn't even make it to the castle 17:40 actually never even finished sokoban i think.. 17:40 or no thats not true 17:41 amateurhour: I run into Python dependencies issues on my main machine. I have to try it again on my secondary, work machine 17:41 what was it then? chameleon becomes an arch-lich and casts destroy armor nuking your gauntlets of power, followed up by summon nasties pulling a black dragon that nukes your COMR? 17:42 a few minor things 17:43 but i also really didn't play well 17:43 3x orctown in 4 games iirc 17:43 lol great feature :P 17:43 its fine enough for a normal game imo 17:43 the invisible gargoyle was mean 17:43 but its not nice for speedruns 17:44 praise the devteam! I've yet to see one player who reacts in any way other than "bullshit! screw you!" when they get orctown 17:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1228 points, T:5065, quit 17:44 couldn't hit that bastard 17:44 I missed the death ray death 17:44 oh yeah that was the second one i think 17:44 ogre with a wand of death 17:45 if I play vanilla, fully 50% of my games end by encountering some bastard with a random wand of death... and people call SLEX unbalanced and unfair :P 17:45 Yeah but you did that on purpose 17:45 i watched you do flipped soko 2a, and people said it was your second time 17:45 vanilla was just being a dick here 17:46 bhaak: if that fails at work lemme know and I'll temporarily push the repo somewhere for you to grab 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 657 points, T:1785, killed by a heavily wounded giant zombie 17:46 amateurhour: thanks, will do 17:47 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) murdered Idefix, her faithful dog, on T:3575 17:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 676 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:14330 17:51 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3668 17:51 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3668 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 23516 points, T:1206, killed by a gnome lord 17:52 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) destroyed Deathsushi's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:3776 17:53 Double bones 17:53 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3820 17:53 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 6 darts on an altar, on T:3823 17:54 aoei: gogogo 17:54 LarienTelrunya: it actually came up how you'd voiced your dislike of Orc Town yet added it to SLEX anyway 17:54 I was actually like "that should tell her what she thinks of it :B" 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3120 17:55 tell you* damnit 17:55 heh, that's like comparing apples to airplanes, in slex it feels right at home but vanilla is tainted by that change :P 17:55 just zap it with undead turning 4Head 17:55 vanilla 3.4.3 was "pure", but then more and more variant features were added to it, especially ones from unnethack for some reason 17:56 sometimes variants have good ideas 17:56 even yours! 17:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:52462 17:56 ...nah that's too mean 17:56 vanilla 3.4.3 is utter trash 17:56 but SLEX has some pretty novel stuff I'm surprised hasn't been picked up 17:56 NAO made 3.4.3 good 17:56 then again, vanilla 3.4.3 added a role that calls itself "monk", except it's actually a sucky role that should be renamed to "sissy puncher" because he deals no damage with his fists!!! :P 17:56 thinking of fake walls in particular, that's a new mimic species right there 17:56 the NAO patchset 17:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 452 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:14572 17:57 I mean that's not an unpopular opinion, Monk's long overdue for a buff 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1398 17:57 just recalculate monk's martial damage in vanilla to be closer to slashem's, and they'll still be weaker due to the nonexistence of techniques but at least martial arts could become playable past the very early game 17:58 then again, slex added a role that calls itself "binder", except it's actually a sucky role that should be renamed to "half baked" 17:58 gottem 17:58 :D 17:58 if monk gets a powerful martial arts attack they are borderline OP 17:58 okay I'll add "amateurhour wants a role named 'half baked' in slex" to my todo list :P 17:58 I am in full agreement about vanilla monks being underpowered 17:59 right now it's optimal to use an artifact weapon as a monk 17:59 see like in spork, one innocent item was added, which suddenly made monk the most powerful class 17:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:14735 17:59 it's not even close 17:59 the gloves of stunlock 17:59 the gloves of Final Fight 17:59 if you just copied slash'em monks and deleted techniques they'd be pretty epic honestly 17:59 it's easy to break game balance by adding one OP item (see also: one of the three commits of porkem before its creator disappeared :P ) 17:59 twoweaponing martial arts as human monk in slash'em is crazy good 18:00 twoweaponing martial arts seems silly to me 18:00 like in evil 18:00 I was more thinking of removing the 1/4 chance that you're just tickling the monster 18:00 I don't think you can twoweapon marts in evilhack? 18:00 you thinking of dnh? 18:01 in dnh monks are so good and so fun, really good way to get into dnh 18:02 ehhhh 18:02 already >3h 18:02 oh well 18:03 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03 At what level/AC can I usually start to think about taking out shopkeepers and/or priests in temples? 18:04 I almost never kill either 18:04 aoei: still 30 people watching btw 18:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:2596 18:05 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 18:06 i should just go to bed now 18:06 amateurhour: alright your joke now becomes official, I'll add a new role called "half baked" and it'll be a clone of the monk except minus all the specific SLASH'EM and SLEX things that make the monk good. :P 18:06 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 18:07 Why not just call it the half-baker 18:08 Deathsushi, you will want reflection since they tend to have wands, and MR or free action if there's any chance a hostile priest will be next to you (otherwise you may get paralyzed and die) 18:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:786 18:09 stenno: wat 18:10 lol :P 18:10 Priests are far worse than shopkeeps to fight imho 18:10 sounds pretty funny 18:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3231 18:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Death, on T:52663 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3806 18:13 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 18:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 8043592 points, T:52679, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo2/dnethack/dumplog/1611335315.dnh.txt 18:13 jilles: Thanks for this 18:14 Pinkbeast: Not even when converting an attended altar? 18:14 grats {Demo} 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 26183 points, T:1841, killed by a giant bat 18:14 LarienTelrunya: of course because unnethack has all the best changes 18:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3802 18:16 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 18:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3857 18:17 gratz Demo 18:17 <{Demo}> very laggy connection to hdf rn :( 18:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3952 18:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:17030 18:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:17039 18:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:17042 18:19 -!- lunatunez has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3533 points, T:4145, killed by an uninjured killer bee 18:20 GG {Demo} 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4355 18:21 go team uninjured a! 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4414 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5489 points, T:4446, killed by an uninjured watch captain 18:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "holy fixed +3 shield of reflection", on T:17322 18:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "marker", on T:17360 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2179 points, T:1809, killed by a wounded ettin mummy 18:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:17445 18:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:17453 18:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:17476 18:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Mal Cha), 480334 points, T:17476, ascended 18:32 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/nethack/dumplog/1611519071.nh.html 18:32 lol cool 18:32 aoei: gg! 18:32 wasn't that fast but it was a fun game 18:32 What a ride 18:32 congrats aoei 18:32 congrats 18:32 also i wasted too much tim eon water writing a million charging scrolls lol 18:32 thanks 18:32 stenno: still up? 18:32 this was a lot of fun to watch 18:32 <@910rd> Gg! 18:32 yeah i was watching 18:32 grats 18:33 yaaaaaaay the lovely stroke-joanna won ♥! congratulations! also good job stenno on reaching 2nd place :) 18:33 anyway 18:33 it doesn't count 18:33 it took a _lot_ of time in the end lol 18:33 next time will be the real match :V 18:33 gg both of you 18:33 also hopefully I can ascend sub-3h next time 18:33 Epic — super fun to watch 18:33 that was super fun altogether 18:33 this was 3h 30 min 18:33 luxidream3: thanks for commentating too! 18:33 yea it was fun 18:33 luxidream3: maybe i will watch the commentary haha 18:33 even though i sucked 18:33 Big thanks Luxid 18:33 i mean the vid 18:33 "stroke-joanna" what 18:33 Umbire: don't ask lmao 18:33 next time will be better 18:33 too late 18:34 gratz aoei !! 18:34 stenno: we believe in you! <3 18:34 thanks a-hour 18:34 gg aoei! 18:34 stenno: to be fair i did soime *dumb shit* on my first good run 18:34 that game was winnable 18:34 epic stream thanks stenno, luxidream3, aoei !! 18:34 until i cancelled myself 18:34 rofl 18:34 i saw it 18:34 and even then 18:34 and evne then 18:34 forgetting the rubber chicken 18:34 i forgot the chicken 18:34 ffs 18:34 altho 18:34 idk if i'd have surfvived planes 18:34 after cancelling all my shit 18:34 probably not 18:34 aoei: that wasn't dumb shit, that was 'throwing for content' :D 18:34 amateurhour: LOL 18:34 XD 18:35 i should cook maybe 18:35 or sleep 18:35 idk 18:35 i was planning to cook before match but didnt have time 18:35 man that was so fun to watch 18:35 actually too pumped to sleep now 18:35 lol 18:35 +1 18:35 ahaha yeah I can imagine 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 12772 points, T:7010, killed by an uninjured invisible forest centaur 18:35 idk if i will be able to sit through the whole vid like 18:35 there were so many great moments during that 18:35 i assume stream is over 18:36 Ack! I missed the end because I looked at FB! Recording? 18:36 otherwise i would join briefly to see if lux is saying any more words 18:36 on my twitch :) 18:36 There is one, yes 18:36 there were always 30 to 40 watchers 18:36 wow 18:36 I'm too tired to say any more words 18:36 luxidream3: fair play lol 18:36 it's been over 6 hours 18:36 lol 18:36 Just type them 4Head 18:36 Umbire: lol 18:36 uh oh, twitch is leaking monkaS 18:36 that was a super cool idea altogether 18:36 i want to hear lux's reaction 18:36 when i cancelled my shit 18:36 and got killed by the wizard 18:37 hahahaa 18:37 aoei was that an accident? did you cancel the direction? 18:37 stenno: next time i want more than a days notice and not being hungover 18:37 aoei: lets see when we do the official run 18:37 infinigon: i didn't realise it was a vanish wand 18:37 wasn't careful enough 18:37 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Dwa Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible hothraxxa's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:3144 18:37 zapped at self as a test 18:37 it's not a good test if the wand might be cancellation 18:37 oh no lon 18:37 lol 18:37 stenno that ogre with the wand of death musta felt awful 18:37 eeh 18:38 i sitll have unnecessary habits like that which slow me down or lead to error 18:38 the worst death was the first one 18:38 all the zap at self wands are pretty shit anyway 18:38 stenno your luck was just unimaginably awful 18:38 was wasting my time 18:38 Agrius1: https://www.twitch.tv/luxidream the last two clips, there was an interruption in between 18:38 my soko on the winning game was ridiculous 18:38 first game was almost perfect 18:38 every good ring except levi was there 18:38 it'll go better next time 18:38 early wish 18:38 i never got early wish 18:38 you don't need it i think 18:38 yeah but you got so stacked 18:38 yeah 18:38 lopl 18:39 teh dungeon was good to me 18:39 but it was slooooow 18:39 luxidream actually slammed his desk in a jealous rage at how much good loot you were getting 18:39 3h 30min 18:39 you ran around with 0:1 wow most of the time 18:39 jeez 18:39 lol 18:39 amateurhour: hahhahahaa 18:39 amateurhour: for real 18:39 TY bhaak 18:39 didn't happen 18:39 stenno: yeah lol 18:39 your lategame was quite careful 18:39 I bumped my laptop 18:39 stenno: maybe too careful lol 18:39 at a random moment 18:39 i coulda been faster 18:39 but 18:39 i also wanted to win 18:40 i wasn't gonna get sub-2h or some shit 18:40 early game was a bit slow too 18:40 i wans't even at castle an hour in 18:40 but yeah loads of high quali loots 18:40 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 18:40 was good 18:40 i found geno fairly early too 18:40 polypiling for charging was annoying 18:40 but i had a lot of scrolls 18:40 so it was ok 18:41 i learnt a bunch of tricks watching you two run, but I'm just generally amazed at how you both make do with less 18:41 oh did y'all see when i nearly bumped a cockatrice in mmf form on like dl6 on the way up 18:41 kind of feel like practicing the speedrun harder 18:41 i almost shat my pants right there 18:41 gotta head to sleep now, thanks again from the epic stream! 18:41 infinigon: Name of the game, there! 18:41 night amateurhour 18:41 night amateurhour 18:41 Night amateurhour <3 18:41 good night! 18:41 aoei's second run was crazy stacked 18:41 the first one was a bit low 18:41 but had good ac 18:41 aoei: yeah luxi complimented your reaction time :) 18:41 infinigon: nice 18:42 haha 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 201 points, T:602, killed by a gecko 18:42 maaan i gotta watch the vid 18:42 6 hours tho 18:42 maybe i'll put it on 3x speed 18:42 and see if i can still understand lux talking 18:42 you should put it on in the background, there was a lot of interesting chatter 18:43 luxi was good at reading out twitch chat comments 18:43 nice 18:43 and it was very active 18:43 i learnt a lot of tricks either watching lux play or talking strats with him 18:43 he's been coaching me sorta 18:44 <{Demo}> aoei listen to the vod 18:44 <{Demo}> its really good 18:44 okey 18:44 <{Demo}> a lot of good tips from luxi for you 18:44 nice 18:44 i will 18:44 we were discussing some of luxi's tips actually 18:44 e.g. bagging excal for asmo 18:44 i don't think it needs to be bagged 18:44 sometimes when i just switch to pickaxe and farlook he's peaceful 18:44 but im not 100% sure 18:44 yeah, turns out as long as you don't wield it when he spawns, you're good 18:44 need to wiztest it or something 18:45 no, open inventory will make him hostile already 18:45 maybe he didn't get an action yet 18:45 stenno: maybe that's only when he can see you? ohh i see 18:45 that could be it 18:45 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:45 but i dug down with pick-axe i thought 18:45 that takes many turns lol 18:45 maybe i bagged then dug 18:45 i dont remember tbh 18:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6648 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:1241 18:46 anyway I gotta head out as well. well played both of you 18:46 looking forward to the next one 18:46 yeah well played stenno 18:46 good match 18:46 gg aoei 18:46 good friendly 18:46 was fun lol 18:46 yeah 18:46 next time bring ur a game 18:46 and see who gets rekt 18:46 next time will be better 18:46 yes 18:46 i need to train a bit more too though 18:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3478 points, T:6664, killed by a wounded soldier ant 18:47 -!- nengel has joined #hardfought 18:47 we should plan a bit more in advance next one 18:47 sure 18:47 probably some weekend a few weeks from now i guess 18:47 but we dont have to decide rn 18:47 yes now is sleeptime 18:47 haha not for me 18:47 i will cook and watch the video 18:47 or listen to it while cooking or something idk 18:48 need foods either way 18:48 i wanted to sleep like 2 hours ago 18:48 or well 18:48 idk 18:48 maybe i'll do my big cooking tomorrow 18:48 if i can think of something easy to make now 18:48 like noodles 18:48 with some sauce 18:48 i guess 18:48 cuz it is late 18:50 (Go team a!) 18:52 oh cool the chat is also recorded in the vid 18:52 -!- attie has quit [Quit: attie] 18:52 -!- nengel is now known as attie 18:57 yeah Twitch is neat 18:57 shame the people running have no earthly fucking idea how to manage a community 18:57 running it* 18:59 that is unfortunate 18:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Mother Hydra, on T:66418 18:59 lol im still super pumped 18:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Father Dagon, on T:66434 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Dwa Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:5406 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:6304 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 8573 points, T:6307, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant mosquito 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2209 points, T:3205, killed by a rothe 19:03 I had literally just picked up a unihorn and forgot to use it to cure hallucination. 19:03 F 19:03 turbo F 19:03 aoei: you have every right to be! 19:03 I'm just mad about the site in general 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:31872 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 100 points, T:420, killed by a boiling potion 19:07 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:10 [hdf-us] [dyn] me1 (dragonspeaker) (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 5638 points, T:2405, killed by a crocodile 19:11 Is there a reason for me to hang on to a wand of cancellation? 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1255 points, T:2093, killed by a heavily wounded rabid rat 19:12 -!- Agrius1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12 It seems like a really big liability 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:842 19:16 Uncursing bones is a v. good use 19:16 Iunno how it works in splice but in vanilla you can use it to mass blank scrolls and turn most potions into water p. easily 19:17 -!- attie has quit [Quit: gone afk] 19:17 it can also uncurse a BoH if zapped at it without affecting the contents 19:17 (again idk if Splice changed anything) 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:6416 19:17 cancelling enemies can also make them far less threatening 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1751 points, T:2865, killed by a dwarf 19:18 -!- Agrius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:18 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:18 -!- Agrius has joined #hardfought 19:19 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 19:21 Uncursing bones... ahhh 19:21 Got it 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:32254 19:21 Yeah it's a quick and dirty method 19:22 You ideally pluck all the more "cancel-fragile" stuff first 19:22 e.g. scrolls, wands, certain chargeable rings if you know their identity 19:22 and artifacts in some cases 19:23 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:534 19:27 aoei, belated congrats 19:31 !who 19:31 K2: [hdf-us] dragonspeaker [dyn] nabru [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] bouquet [evil] krm26 [evil] spleen [nh370] jizosaves [nh370] Karnac [nh370] Alex [un] Disruptor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 19:31 like if you're in a hurry and/or it's early enough in the game you might be able to get away with just zapping the armor and weapons too 19:32 ...is what I was gonna say when Sushi came back 19:32 typed that and forgot about it 6_9 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:33641 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1625 points, T:2062, killed by a nearly deceased rothe 19:46 <{Demo}> stenno runs the nhqb, right? 19:47 he's a mod there 19:47 <{Demo}> who runs it? 19:47 ... i dont know 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 1269 points, T:936, killed by a rabid rat 19:47 <{Demo}> i guess stenno probably knows so ill bother him tomorrow if he's on 19:48 <{Demo}> !tell stenno who runs the nhqb? 19:48 No worries, {Demo}, I've got this! 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3044 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 398 points, T:581, killed by an uninjured gnome 19:49 a number of these mention "GreyKnight" so maybe them? https://nhqdb.alt.org/?news 19:50 <{Demo}> yeah hmm 19:52 thank sk2 19:52 im watching the stream recording lol 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 287 points, T:510, killed by an uninjured gnome 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3327 19:53 I mean, the actual admins of nhqdb are the alt.org admins. 19:54 yup 19:54 I think stenno could be considered to 'run it' for all intents and purposes nowadays. 19:54 that's what i thought too 19:55 my soko game was definitely faster than stenno lol 19:55 yeah I think you have some speedrunning tricks 19:55 i gotta try this thing lux mentioned about dropping food tho 19:56 and fast travelling to food 19:56 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:57 <{Demo}> wait so paxxed and dtype? 19:57 i am wondering if i'd have a better shot at sub-2h if i skip soko 19:57 would mean more splats but if luck into the right items it may work out 19:57 {Demo}: paxed runs that 19:57 soko still takes me 10-15 min 19:57 which is a lot if you're trying to get sub-2h 19:58 <{Demo}> pretend this is unrelated, check out this cool "fanart modified dumplog" of aoei's ascending run today http://diddlydingusdu.de/NetHack%203.7.0-aoei.html 19:58 lol isn't that just the dumplog 19:59 i love hte 2 hp at the end 19:59 i mean i would've just reverted to dwarf 19:59 but still it amused me 19:59 yeah that's 19:59 just the dumplog... 19:59 <{Demo}> until you diff them and see that this https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2946 went up as many votes as ppl that viewed it and hadn't already upvoted this (just went up 4) 20:00 did i thank lux for hosting the stream 20:00 i think i didn't 20:00 luxidream3: thahnks 20:00 and thank sfor the commentary its great lol 20:00 <{Demo}> the voting endpoint is csrfable, but also doesn't even take any login 20:00 at the point i got up to now i just beat soko and stenno isn't doing so well, so it's not cringe to watch 20:01 later it's maybe a bit cringe when i died stupidly 20:01 lol 20:01 what exactly does "50% boost to spellcasting" mean for these evilhack magic staves? Like more hp healed or dmg delivered? 20:01 <{Demo}> so if i was hosting a high traffic site, I could just embed the vote GET endpoint in an iframe and get an epic high score upvoted post 20:01 Lowered failure rate 20:01 bouquet: ^ yea i think its waht umby just said 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:4009 20:01 for a specific class of spells 20:01 so not really a wizard tool? More of a secondary spell caster tool. 20:02 bouquet: sounds like yeah 20:02 gotcha 20:03 K2: body armor always ups failure rate, yeah? 20:03 found a double bones in minetown but no actual loot 20:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Swn Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of drain resistance", on T:41148 20:04 is it dependent on object material after that or no 20:04 Umbire yes, except for crystal plate 20:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:6177 20:04 which I like that you buffed it 20:04 but is that also yes to object materials being a factor? 20:04 or no 20:05 well metal 20:05 but thats vanilla 20:06 {Demo}: embed it in your email signature from now on 20:06 <{Demo}> lol 20:06 so unchanged from vanilla wrt object mats 20:06 i.e. no 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Dwa Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:6034 20:07 wuh oh 20:07 hopefully that wasn't armor influenced 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Dwa Mal Neu), 3772 points, T:6225, killed by a killer bee 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a killer bee, on T:4783 20:11 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Fem Neu), 1363 points, T:1282, killed by an Uruk-hai called Ai-banearuk of Ruku-ulog 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:29662 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5883 20:13 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 20:14 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Client Quit] 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 427 points, T:1140, killed by a giant bat 20:20 i didn't use a solver for mastermind 20:21 gratz, aoei 20:21 what was your strat then 20:21 it just seemed unusual 20:23 luxidream3: I hit on 3 gears with AAAAA and then locked the correct places before trying other letters 20:23 ohh 20:24 yeah there's a lot of things I missed 20:24 it must be hard to keep up with two games at once lol 20:24 i didn't even think of conflict and smashing the drawbridge tho 20:24 probalby would've been faster 20:24 luxidream3: was the commentary typed in chat or "live"? 20:24 for example, the reason that stenno fought the first gargoyle that killed him 20:24 i coulda had a really good time with that one 20:24 sorry I missed it :( 20:24 all good, he gots VoDs 20:24 was because there was a peaceful hobbit 20:24 watch at your leisure 20:25 in the doorway 20:25 oh shit 20:25 stenno got death rayed 20:25 so he kicked down the door and woke up the entire zoo 20:25 yeah that hobbit fucked him but good 20:25 damn 20:25 luxidream3: ahhh 20:25 and then he got para'd by a cube 20:25 GG from there 20:25 yeah digging wand is great if you have one 20:25 would have been better to forcefight the hobbit 20:25 because you can raze the door and i think it doesn't wake them up 20:25 yeah that would've been the correct play 20:25 it doesn't make noise when getting angry 20:25 dNetHack updated (all servers) 20:26 luxidream3: right 20:26 Unless they scream force-fighting a peaceful in your way is viable 20:26 in that scenario 20:26 i normally have C- and K-rations on autopickup 20:26 i need to fix that in my rcfile 20:26 stenno's death ray was unfortunate 20:26 that was straight up bullshit 20:26 yea he got death rayed while im at my first castle 20:26 Normal NetHack Bullshit granted but god 20:26 that's where im up to in watching 20:26 i spent a bit too long at castle i guess 20:29 lol you didn't notice my boh wish either for a while 20:29 you're sayingi should wish for one a while after i already had :D 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6367 20:30 it's hard for me to pay attention to invent 20:30 when perm_invent is off 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 22483 points, T:6402, killed by a wounded troll 20:30 trolled 20:30 yeah 20:31 i also don't like playing without it :P 20:31 understandable 20:31 we should work it out a little earlier next time 20:31 yea sorry 20:31 next time i'll be better prepared 20:32 Oh yeah I think I meant to steal your RCfile and use it 20:32 hhahaa now i realise im not wearing half my armour 20:32 think it was you I was asking when I was planning to do TNNT before my brain said "no" and killed my desire to do anything ever for a while 20:32 who were you wasking 20:32 asking* 20:32 you! 20:32 ah 20:33 (I think!) 20:33 lol 20:33 i have so many rcfiles 20:33 the one you used for this run then 20:34 lol i blanked loads of scrolls and things during my runs 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Orc Fem Una), 419 points, T:760, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 20:34 -!- lunatunez has joined #hardfought 20:35 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/nethack/Stella.nhrc 20:35 hey so what actually happened with that ebony cancel wand 20:35 danke 20:35 lol i didn't realise my armour for ages 20:38 i killed surtur with -3 AC hahaha 20:38 i like the shark geno 20:38 i saw you geno ; as valkgdq 20:39 and then easily levi round to the backdoor 20:39 so convenient 20:39 well you can also beat them to death 20:39 eels can drown you but 20:39 sharks hit hard as you said 20:39 i probably was stacked enought to worry 20:39 to not worry i mean 20:39 I've been doing energy vortices, had some problems with them in the past 20:39 but its kinda nice getting them out the way 20:39 I mean Surter is p. ez 20:40 on stable you can do mind flayers 20:40 aoei can still splat 20:40 lol 20:40 yep 20:40 i mean have you ever fought surtur 20:40 energy vortices fuckin suuuuuuuuukc 20:40 I think he's kinda tough, not nearly the hardest though 20:40 also yeah I have 20:40 yea surtur can hit somewhat hart 20:40 hard 20:40 if you walk in with 0 ac he can kill you 20:40 i got down to red hp there 20:40 before taking him out 20:40 well yeah but I'm not THAT bold luxi 20:40 I know I saw 20:41 human valk would have died there :3 20:41 just saying it's *doable* with like -3 20:41 -3 AC* 20:41 omg 20:41 if not incredibly foolhardy 20:41 i finally understood what Any% means 20:41 beacuse of a-hour's 100% category jape 20:41 lmfao 20:41 bruh 20:41 what 20:41 aoei pls 20:41 ._. 20:41 im new at this 20:41 it's ok 20:42 * Umbire pats aoei 20:42 in speedrunning it means "complete the game, no other requirements" 20:42 i had been meaning to ask what Any% meant for a while 20:42 lopl 20:42 yeah 20:42 i figured it out from the 100% category joke amateurhour made 20:42 yeah some people take a bit to catch on to jargon 20:42 it's just funny to think about 20:42 100% would be extinctionist 20:42 and would never be a category 20:42 wait did stenno turn into a rat 20:42 oops 20:42 Not with that attitude. 20:43 yeah then he forgot to drink holy 20:43 oops 20:43 oh yeah the wererat seed 20:43 right 20:43 that might've sucked dicks to try and continue after anyway given the angry god 20:43 still gotta watch more to get there 20:43 but i wonder what the reaction was at some point where i ragequit minetown 20:43 because a nymph stole my shield 20:43 i was so tilted 20:43 i hate chasing them down 20:44 <{Demo}> i recall you recovering it lol 20:44 also "all branches%" would probably be the most analogous to 100% in any other games 20:44 after extinctionist 20:44 that was a bad mt 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 284 points, T:969, killed by an incubus, while sleeping 20:44 I don't think I said anything 20:44 stenno also quit on some other bad MT 20:44 Orc Town 20:44 All Nazgul rings is cool 20:44 3 times 20:44 etc. etc. 20:45 I try to name as many of the Nazgul rings I get as possible 20:45 oh heh i never noticed my Con issue in that game 20:45 I'll just revgeno nazgul and pass out some cursed rings 20:45 no one will ever know 20:45 "monk is just straight up bad" 20:45 quoted for truth 20:45 Samurai is also annoying for the required death wand 20:45 all the devs need to do is buff martial arts and take out that silly 1 damage thingy 20:46 what in speedrunning terms? 20:46 they took out the 1 damage thing 20:46 because I mean 20:46 yeah 20:46 they have ac problems, need to farm for luck to actually hit 20:46 The nazgul rings were never named, were they? 20:46 it's RNG as shit to get and you have to not die getting it 20:46 "in the theoretical fastest run you just dig straight down and luck into your asc kit" 20:46 yeah that's bascially how turncount works lmao XD 20:46 krm26: they're just cursed invisibility rings 20:47 people name them for kicks 20:47 and/or sentiment 20:47 I thought you meant giving them their Quenya names 20:47 luxidream3: i thought monk might be less terrible than i remember if i use the polyself hack 20:47 but yeah idk 20:47 for speedrunning they probalby suck 20:47 Like Nenya, Vilya, and Narya 20:47 they are less terrible if you do that 20:47 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 20:47 but they can't even cast mm 20:47 despite being "caster" 20:47 and have no eregen 20:48 i've never seen a nazgul 20:48 they are also too dumb to read books 20:48 is this new ish content? 20:48 without blessing 20:48 purple W 20:48 Maybe bc they only show up in Gehennom? 20:48 there were some on the stream 20:49 I've seen then in Gehennom occasionally 20:49 they probably just died too quickly for you to notice 20:49 wb Deathsushi 20:49 Nazgul have been around since the Second Age! 20:49 and I remember that in TNNT it was one of the challenges to kill the 9 Nazguls, no? 20:49 Umbire Merci! 20:49 Good to be back 20:49 also Nazgul have been around forever 20:49 well not "forever" but p. long 20:49 Cooking up a chicken pie for dinner and stealing from merchants 20:49 No, there were no Nazgul in the First Age 20:49 only 9 ever generate 20:49 so they're understandably rare 20:49 No what am i talk about, they show up before the castle sometimes.. 20:50 spicycebolla: they are invisible! 20:50 ^ 20:50 ...no 20:50 they don't WEAR the rings 20:50 just generate with them 20:50 lol 20:50 they just carry them around 20:50 but yeah I've seen them on Medusa 20:50 at least a couple of times 20:50 If Medusa becomes invisible, how can she still stone you... 20:50 it's funny, in 3.7 paxed gave barrow wights a cold attack, but they lose their weapon attack 20:51 so they will probably carry around a useless sword and knife 20:51 Also, why can she stone herself when she has petrification resistance........ 20:51 because she can see you 20:51 also it's a specially coded case that alludes to her myth 20:51 uhh I thought gaze attacks don't work 20:51 if you can't see the other monster 20:51 yeah that's the case with floating eyes and stuff 20:51 Once you kill Medusa Euryale and Stheno should come after you 20:52 it probably IS the case with Medusa but I have no idea 20:52 That thing with Perseus looking at her through a mirror is also weird 20:52 maybe i've killed some nazgul 20:52 in the original myth it was to view HER safely 20:52 i've just never ever noticed them in nethack 20:52 direct eye contact was a nono 20:52 nah she just killed perseus with her poisonous hair 20:52 he didn't have poison resistance 20:52 and then stoned his corpse 20:52 obviously 4Head 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8048 points, T:6961, killed by a wounded warg, while helpless 20:54 lol i ahd to play back that bit a few times to figure out wtf happened 20:54 stenno forgot to hit x before forcing a box 20:54 broke the long sword 20:54 rip 20:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Swn Fem Cha) was given the Singing Sword, on T:45309 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1554 20:56 misfortune. the greatest source of fun 20:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:00 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Bar Dwa Fem Neu) had a steel axe entrusted to her by Crom, on T:34346 21:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:31861 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31863 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3001 21:29 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Kni Hum Fem Law), 29808 points, T:14103, killed by invisible Ixoth 21:30 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:9664 21:30 Aw yayer 21:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Orcranger (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 100226 points, T:23303, killed by the Cyclops 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4170 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4265 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5234 21:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the Watchdog of the Boreal Valley, on T:20405 21:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the Bastard of the Boreal Valley, on T:20425 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 591 points, T:1584, killed by a bolt of cold 21:56 Should I be leaving a scroll of teleportation in my main inventory? 21:56 So that I can use it quickly? 21:56 Or does that put me at risk of fire? 22:00 well, if you lose it, hopefully you have another not in open inventory and can pull that out 22:00 It's probably worth the risk, especially if you have backups. 22:01 that said I usually don't bother 22:01 It's more important in the early-to-mid game 22:09 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:11351 22:11 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 22:11 luxidream3: iirc any monster that isn't "always hostile" can be generated as a "renegade", with some finite chance 22:11 renegades will always be hostile no matter your alignment record 22:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 6918 points, T:12664, killed by a Woodland-elf 22:12 strictly speaking i should say this applies to coaligned monsters that don't fall into always hostile or always peaceful 22:12 so that would probably explain your hostile titan 22:13 might be worth source-diving this anyway because this is how i remember things from 343 22:14 {Demo}: ah you found something in the sauce already 22:14 on this 22:15 i assume demogorgon22 is you 22:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2182 points, T:1723, killed by a glass dart 22:20 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:12060 22:20 Stupid. Should be more careful in minetown, myself. 22:21 F 22:26 [hdf-us] [slex] otc (Emp Akt Mal Neu), 2004 points, T:47, quit 22:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hob Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:32656 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3682 22:31 how much time did i waste killing gremlins to dip in the moat 22:31 lmao 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Enchanter, on T:26937 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3450 points, T:4506, killed by a wounded panther 22:39 luxidream3: lol you gave me a 95% win chance and i still fucked it up xD 22:49 [hdf-us] [spl] Deathsushi (Bar Inf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13391 22:49 <{Demo}> see peace_minded in makemon.c 22:50 i made a lot of mistakes with Baalzebub also ._. 22:50 i forgot money 22:50 ideally bribe 22:50 and then forgot about telepathy for stairs etc 22:52 <{Demo}> didn't blind while fighting for some reason 22:53 yeah i somehow didnt realise Baalzebub's stunning was a gaze attack 22:53 I blind for archons 22:55 <{Demo}> the archon gambit from luxi was interesting 22:56 the who 22:57 he suggested attacking the peaceful archon in vlads 22:57 i didn't think of that 22:57 tho i was keeping an eye out for angels and aleaxs to kill 22:57 but yea archon has best chance of having shield of reflection 22:58 heh lux just mentioned using (winged) gargoyl polyself to take out Medusa 22:58 i have done it too but it's a bit dicey, once i did it in a wiztest and got depoly'd then immediately turned to stone 22:58 in a real run i cancelled her as soon as possible just to be safe 22:58 that way depoly is no longer dangerous 22:59 <{Demo}> also the aols thing luxi discusses was weird 22:59 which thing 23:00 i used to be anti-aols but i have changed my tune 23:00 lol 23:00 also LOL 23:00 Completed Sokoban 23:00 just got to the bit 23:00 Got a silver amulet of reflection 23:00 lux's shock at me cancelling my inv 23:00 so amazing 23:00 Am playing as an infernal and can't touch silver 23:00 aoei: That was quite the moment 23:00 so dumb lol 23:01 Am I completely out of luck with this AoR? 23:01 basically lost the game right there 23:01 Is there any way to transform it's material? 23:01 hm idk 23:01 what variant you playing? 23:01 SpliceHack 23:01 ahhh 23:01 idk, not played that one much 23:01 Is it possible in Vanilla? 23:02 erm 23:02 you can reverse genocide a monster to do it 23:02 Transmuter 23:02 i think hyou are out of luck tbh 23:02 ohhh transmuters 23:02 only wear stuff that you want material-changed 23:02 if you let them flubble your toys long enough, they'll all become goo so 23:02 you might not get the material you want, but you'll definitely get a change 23:03 So the move then is probably to polymorph the amulet I guess eh? 23:03 or polyself into a not-infernal 23:04 Hmmm. Is AoR critical? 23:04 Seems REALLY IMPORTANT 23:05 reflection is kinda important 23:05 but you can survive without for a while 23:05 medusa often has a shield of reflection 23:05 or rather the statue of perseus often has it 23:05 I guess I can go with SDSM? 23:05 yea SDSM also works 23:07 i'd rather have reflection than be an infernal 23:07 shield of reflection is silver material. 23:08 wow 23:08 i cant stop laughing lol 23:09 "You cannot escape from the tickler!" 23:09 wasn't even a miskey lol 23:10 laughing from what? 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 700 points, T:1185, killed by a dwarf 23:11 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:11 i got to the bit of the vid 23:11 where i cancel all my shit 23:11 lol 23:11 also what is a vod 23:11 demo said vod 23:11 is it not called a vid 23:12 Video of the Day? 23:12 -!- Deathsushi has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:12 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 23:12 viddy the vodeo, daddy-o 23:12 video on demand I think? 23:12 oh yeah that makes sense 23:12 it's just the twitch terminology 23:16 lmao 23:16 i even fainted before dying 23:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] vhorthor (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3704 points, T:9801, killed by an uninjured jaguar 23:18 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 23:21 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2442 points, T:4255, killed by a bolt of fire 23:26 should have known better than to have tried to carry that emtpy chest to the temple 23:36 -!- Deathsushi has joined #hardfought 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8905 23:44 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 46 points, T:65, killed by a bolt of fire 23:51 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Vagrant, on T:10269 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10879