00:00 I think in vanila only the /oW is the only one that can't be recharged more than once. 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Mal Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:19401 00:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10325 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:19406 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1677 00:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 1364 points, T:1465, killed by a giant mimic 00:15 Correct arahael 00:15 Evil was the one that limited recharges on a wand of death 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:19788 00:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Fem Law) was given the Vampire Killer, on T:2760 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:19799 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Mal Law), 1399188 points, T:19821, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tommo/nethack/dumplog/1610743339.nh.html 00:18 yee 00:18 Congrats. :) 00:18 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:18 yay congrats tommmo 00:18 i cut it down to 5hrs from 6! 00:18 nice 00:19 and! i never found genocide, so that lost a lot of time as well 00:19 i wish for it sometimes tbh 00:19 i had to wish for a pickaxe ^^; 00:19 Damn! 00:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Fem Law) was given Sunsword, on T:3810 00:19 did you lose yours 00:19 or what happened 00:19 ya 00:19 oof 00:20 i think i dropped it to unburden when i was near death 00:20 n forgot where 00:20 around medusa ish levels 00:21 ah 00:21 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 00:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4326 00:23 GG Tommo! 00:23 Nice sub-20k 00:23 oh! hehe thanx 00:23 by like 100 turns :P 00:26 5:00:45 okok 00:26 still nice tho 00:26 ya! 00:26 when i started practicing, it was like 2hrs to beat soko 00:27 now its like 45min 00:27 sweet 00:27 i managed to beat castle sub-1h in this one run 00:27 oooo 00:28 gotta memorize that soko 00:28 not counting a few pauses tho, i.e. sub-1h realtime not wallclock 00:28 get that down to 15 minutes 00:28 ;) 00:28 ohhh 00:28 soko is annoying, maybe i will learn to do it fast at some point 00:28 but 00:28 i usually skip 00:28 well fwiw i mean, start to postsoko = 45min 00:28 ahh ok 00:28 makes more sense 00:29 i got soko memorized p much except flippers 00:29 if you want to run consistently you need to do soko aoei 00:29 :P 00:29 ye i will try it a bit more 00:29 <{Demo}> whack 00:29 one run i messed up in soko2a and decided to just skip the rest 00:29 make sure u get excalibur first, it makes the monsters a lot more manageable 00:30 i hate dying in sokoban 00:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Fem Law), 16572 points, T:5316, killed by a gnome lord 00:30 yea you definitely need excal before soko lol 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Vagrant, on T:19400 00:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:12407 00:31 in that run i watched you i saw you get excal before even going to mines, maybe i will try that 00:31 town sord soko medusa castle quest 00:31 hmm interestin 00:31 doesn't always work out 00:31 but you also did quest before castle, it was an unusual run 00:32 I make that call depending on no of fountains I see 00:32 yea makes sense 00:32 i usually go to mt real quick then head to oracle for dipping 00:32 weird move to do quest first but it saves time backtracking I think 00:32 yea its just not normally an option lol 00:33 a funny play is to dip in minetown and escape, since you will never return there during the run 00:33 ...do 00:33 luxidream: haha i did think about this 00:33 do you people not normally do quest before castle...? 00:33 truue 00:33 i think i've done it once at some point also 00:33 must be one of those expert player things 00:33 Umbire: explain where you get the exp to do quest 00:33 before castle 00:33 i do quest first in variants where quest only needs xp12 00:33 Just killing everything like normal usually 00:33 luxidream: idk some people camp for 2 years before going to medusa 00:33 Granted sometimes it takes a bit 00:34 i had geno ided that game 00:34 I usually make sure to do the side branches when possible but 00:34 so I made a bunch of wraiths and went there early 00:34 I'm not a speedrunner 00:34 so 00:34 grinding up enough exp would be difficult even with swamps 00:34 and graveyards 00:34 sometimes you find gl pots too i guess 00:35 gl for the win. 00:35 ya 00:35 getting to 11 is easy 00:35 yeah that's the fastest strat 00:35 luck into gl 00:35 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:35 doesn't always work 00:39 if i can shave another hour off i can get on the top 100 :O 00:40 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:40 often, beating castle gets me to xl12 and i luck into wraith corpses in the valley, or a couple of gl pots 00:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:12845 00:41 sometimes I lure wraiths from valley with levelport 00:41 oh yeah thats a nice trick 00:41 cuz you can bring them with 00:41 even with conflict getting corpses can be dicey at times 00:41 yea 00:42 actually it's probably a relatively small fraction of runs where I find two corpses in the valley 00:43 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 00:43 also tommo you don't need to take off 1 hour 00:43 look under nethack tab 00:43 It's usually not an outright grind for me but again, not a speedrunner 00:44 some people have inflated rankings under "all" because of unnethack's borked realtime 00:44 So I tend to not really "feel" grinds to begin with 00:44 i guess it depends what you find fun 00:45 80k exp is a pretty tall order for anyone 00:45 it's probably easy if you also consort with foocubi though 00:46 but doesn't work for valk or barb really i think 00:46 that's pretty consistent and less grindy than if you were to kill your way up to 80k 00:46 right just normal play 00:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3418 00:47 i mean they have shit stats for getting good reuslts from foocubi 00:47 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:48 tommo: https://nethackscoreboard.org/realtime.nh37x.html <-- here it has you at #7 00:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:20646 00:48 oh heck 00:49 other pages are diff versions or all versions mixed 00:50 also you're actually #6 because Stella and aoei are teh same persno 00:50 cheater! 00:50 /j 00:50 yeh i will fix it sorry 00:50 also yeah just killing shit does a lot of the work and I tend to wanna do that to train weapons anyhowzen 00:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) was given Kingslayer, on T:5662 00:51 I do consort with foocubi now and then but it's not like a primary strategy 00:51 i think you max out weapon skills long before getting enough xp tho 00:52 I could see that if you are training backup ranged weapons or polearms 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 749 points, T:1671, killed by a slightly wounded orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:52 o coolio 00:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 7702 points, T:5893, killed by Ms. Sipaliwini, the shopkeeper 00:54 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a bugbear, on T:14248 00:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 79 points, T:332, killed by an uninjured kobold 01:02 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 01:04 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 shield of reflection", on T:33801 01:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 quicksilver", on T:3213 01:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:15296 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 741 points, T:1848, killed by an uninjured rabid rat 01:15 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 01:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4145 01:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15911 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a dwarf), on T:8440 01:19 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Mal Neu), 3290 points, T:8544, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a potion 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1462 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Hea Gno Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:5144 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:5145 01:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] StellaSchnella (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 18504 points, T:2304, killed by a wounded soldier 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) stole 26 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Senna Hut's hardware store, on T:1772 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 748 points, T:1778, killed by a wand 01:30 !who 01:30 luxidream: [hdf-us] Thidwick [nh370] coplate [nh370] Alex [un] monstergrin [dnh] | [hdf-eu] Glord [nh370] StellaSchnella [nh370] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 01:30 -!- luxidream has quit [Quit: Really quit? (Y/N)] 01:30 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:35239 01:34 good lord 01:34 i just found luxi's blindfolded stream 01:35 kinda looks like a scary mummy is staring at you the whole time, right? 01:36 Dracunos: 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Arc Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1948 01:36 shit i mean 01:36 D : 01:37 lol 01:37 he reminds me of an evil scarecrow that came to life 01:37 <@luxidream> how does anyone play the game like that tbh 01:38 well first u need 2 find a towel 01:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:17408 01:38 did u try eatin eyeballs 01:38 lmao 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 920 points, T:2134, killed by a wounded watchman 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5368 01:44 https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/8/83/Scarecrows.JPG/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20140830123821 01:44 luxi on zen mode 01:45 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 01:59 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 02:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) was given Staff of Necromancy, on T:7103 02:04 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Hea Gno Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7683 02:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 855 points, T:1629, killed by an uninjured giant bat 02:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 514 points, T:1254, killed by an uninjured hobbit, while sleeping 02:31 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4734 02:36 Oh, wow. Praying on an altar can repair your weapons. 02:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2160 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1149 points, T:2496, killed by a water moccasin 02:53 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 02:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:22594 03:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 124801 points, T:15378, killed by an invisible quaton, while fainted from lack of food 03:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Ran Dro Fem Cha) was given Plague, on T:3327 03:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Ran Dro Fem Cha) was given the Garnet Rod, on T:3601 03:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Ran Dro Fem Cha) was given Frost Treads, on T:4000 03:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ran Dro Fem Cha), 38034 points, T:4061, escaped 03:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Sam Clk Mal Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:2667 03:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Sam Clk Mal Law) was given the Fluorite Octahedron, on T:4792 03:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed eraserhead97's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:7357 03:32 Hmm, so it _is_ a bones. 03:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Sam Clk Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6231 03:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Sam Clk Mal Law), 15326 points, T:6749, quit 04:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Ith Mal Una), 5345 points, T:3594, quit 04:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6569 04:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 13538 points, T:9015, killed by a giant mummy 04:20 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5777 points, T:11478, killed by a giant beetle 04:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:8786 04:23 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1467 04:26 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 11525 points, T:9498, killed by a bolt of lightning 04:33 Double-bones. :( And I was having a very nice game - Aphrodite with a wand of lightening. 04:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:63105 04:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] Tomsod (Inf Ith Mal Una), 784 points, T:1351, killed by a rabid dog 04:49 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:44006 04:56 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 bloodletter", on T:1998 05:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:16 -!- beetcoin has quit [Quit: rip] 05:16 -!- beetcoin has joined #hardfought 05:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1366 points, T:1842, killed by a poisonous corpse 05:26 Hmpf. 05:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 897 points, T:2131, killed by a wounded dwarf 05:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:59 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:01 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:17 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6220 06:22 -!- lxlldr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 33426 points, T:11362, killed by a gray dragon 06:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 52 points, T:278, poisoned by a rotted jackal corpse 06:33 -!- oh6 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:33 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 06:33 -!- moon-child has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:33 -!- earenndil has joined #hardfought 06:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:35503 06:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3358 06:48 -!- infinigon 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wished for "3 blessed scrolls of enchant armor", on T:11106 08:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:16460 08:17 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +5 speed boots", on T:11121 08:19 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "doot doodle a doot do"] 08:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:11179 08:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:9362 08:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiterer, on T:17042 08:29 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 08:29 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 09:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:13282 09:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:13294 09:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 117351 points, T:13296, killed by a ball of radiance 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3210 09:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] k2 (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) killed the Grue, on T:38713 09:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 190 points, T:865, killed by Mr. Angmagssalik, the shopkeeper 09:15 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) was given the Limb of the Black Tree, on T:3947 09:26 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3452 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3639 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3643 09:36 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6956 09:42 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:11925 09:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 staff of necromancy", on T:8109 10:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) was given Windrider, on T:8492 10:04 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) had a glass dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:40899 10:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:12925 10:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:12925 10:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:13014 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) had a gold polished shield entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:44363 10:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 60873 points, T:10777, killed by Cerberus 10:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] mobileuser (Pri Hum Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:27926 10:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2621 11:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:35971 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:46413 11:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed blessed fixed +5 bloodletter", on T:2928 11:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36453 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Nelennath (Val Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:9833 11:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 20630 points, T:5480, killed by an Uruk-hai 11:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1102 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8067 11:37 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9047 11:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:2965 11:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) was given Tobiume, on T:3577 11:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) genocided class z, on T:40755 11:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) was given the Helm of Undeath, on T:3721 11:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17795 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 32049 points, T:18881, killed by a slightly wounded troll 12:07 <@luxidream> trololol 12:07 <@luxidream> !lastgame 12:07 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/i/ichbinmiah/nethack/dumplog/1610287460.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1610811444.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1610789749.evil.html 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:11281 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:11466 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 289 points, T:1002, killed by a nearly deceased bugbear 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:12260 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3740 12:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2023 points, T:2463, killed by a wounded rothe 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3095 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Fem Neu) had an ironshod staff entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:979 12:36 exactly what a monk needs. NOT 12:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha) averted death, on T:10534 12:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bar Vam Fem Cha), 128210 points, T:10559, quit 12:38 it does help you spellcast at least nabru 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3540 12:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:25137 12:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Fem Neu), 5237 points, T:1740, killed by a bolt of lightning 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3635 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:3662 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3735 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an amulet of flying on an altar, on T:3745 12:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2095 12:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Tommo's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3884 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16185 13:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:42913 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:21355 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3296 13:04 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:16429 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:49222 13:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 yellow dragon scale mail", on T:45105 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant eel, on T:21824 13:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 13:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:26491 13:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26492 13:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 bloodletter", on T:2521 13:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:37163 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5935 13:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 tiny green dragon scale shield", on T:46290 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Tou Hob Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5197 13:35 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 13:36 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Tou Hob Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5425 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 9749 points, T:6773, killed by a soldier ant 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 15228 points, T:966, killed by a dart 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Tou Hob Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6225 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 550 points, T:1928, killed by a giant bat 13:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) killed the adventuring wizard, on T:47651 13:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) killed the half-elf ranger, on T:47659 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 32 points, T:87, killed by touching Grimtooth 13:48 ffs 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 8140 points, T:7216, killed by a gargoyle, while praying 13:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) killed the militant cleric, on T:47784 13:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) killed the Rebel Ringleader, on T:47882 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4839 13:52 lol 13:53 hothraxxa: oof 13:53 rip in peace 13:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] mobileuser (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed bag of holding", on T:28987 14:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) was given Gaia's Fate, on T:48414 14:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 16200 points, T:3926, poisoned by a rotted dwarf corpse 14:02 me: grimtooth! \o/ 14:02 me: grimtooth! +_+ 14:03 lul 14:03 completely forgot it was intelligent 14:03 never again will i claim Grimtooth is uselss 14:03 it managed to kill hothraxxa's tourist xD 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:17695 14:03 it's actually pretty good in evil, esp in early game 14:03 ah it was evil you were playin too 14:04 yes. i'm a sucker 14:04 its ok hothraxxa 14:04 everyone sucks at evilhack 14:04 i got sucked back in because i actually enjoyed the ice queen 14:04 no need to feel bad 14:05 actually mobileuser does not suck at evilhack 14:05 oh yeah true 14:05 or vaderflag 14:05 i just meant everyone else 14:05 those are outliers 14:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) received the helm of the Dark Lord, on T:48642 14:05 i have something 10 evilhack ascensions myself 14:05 something like 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 101 points, T:253, killed by an uninjured fox 14:06 not bad 14:06 i have 0 so i shouldn't really talk about anyone else sucking but me :D 14:07 they're all pre 0.5.0 so make of that what you will 14:07 i stopped playing evil for a long time 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 68470 points, T:18299, killed by a wounded chameleon imitating a minotaur 14:09 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 14:10 hothraxxa: look forward to evilhack 0.7 where the wizard of yendor can have reflection/mr 14:11 * amateurhour shudders 14:11 damn shit 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:49853 14:11 -!- Announcy has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 14:12 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 14:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 14:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:12 -!- infinigon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:12 -!- moon-child has joined #hardfought 14:12 -!- theRaisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12 -!- infinigo1 has joined #hardfought 14:12 -!- squolly has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:12 -!- honu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:13 -!- earenndil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 14:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 blue dragon scale mail", on T:1936 14:14 amateurhour: that's the sort of thing that made me stop playing evilhack 14:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) turned out their pockets for Baalzebub for safe passage, on T:45773 14:18 -!- squolly has joined #hardfought 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 43 points, T:165, killed by a wounded succubus 14:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:49605 14:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Fem Law) was given the Vampire Killer, on T:3883 14:25 hothraxxa its not guaranteed. just a chance of it 14:27 If nethack has a final boss, it's Rodney -- he should be challenging, not just a wand zap every X turns 14:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4237 14:28 ^ that 14:30 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:31 hothraxxa hopefully you're enjoying evilhack again overall. there are sooooo may fixes and improvements with current version vs 0.4.2 and older 14:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:31 and 0.7.0 should be even better. hopefully i dont introduce new bugs with new content :P 14:31 (but we know it's gonna happen) 14:32 the last boss is the astral plane imo fwiw 14:33 rodney guaranteed appearance on astral? great idea amateurhour 14:33 i agree with amateurhour but not K2 14:33 i was about to go "this ^" 14:33 but that would have been ambig 14:34 hah 14:34 <{Demo}> nethack isn't the kind of game to have a final boss 14:35 k2: what level do door traps show up? i've fogotten 14:35 13? 14:35 13 i think yeah 14:35 {Demo}: depends how you interpret boss... if it has to be a single monster no 14:35 maybe i backed that down to 10 14:35 i dont remember, need to check 14:35 if you go with the a-hour interpretation tho, astral makes total sense to me as final boss 14:35 definitely dbl-digit dungeon level 14:36 just give rodney MR 100 14:36 no more death zaps 14:36 he already has that stenno1 14:36 doesnt stop death ray 14:37 monMR doesn't protect from it 14:37 aha 14:37 this is why you can't poly him 14:37 unless you levdrain him first 14:37 level draining him will lower his monMR eventually 14:37 well then give him the attribute that makes him resist death rays 14:37 yea that'd also work 14:37 whatever it is 14:41 this is what I added to evilhack for next version (this is not live) - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f3542caf7668ea0ba761d167ad2859ea917b9805 14:43 oh wwo zap.c is a fucking mess 14:43 nethack is all about randomness. figured adding an element of 'not sure what you're going to get' with rodney made sense. currently you can always kill rodney with a wand of death. not being able to 100% didnt make sense either 14:43 so make it a toss up 14:44 oh thats a nice buff 14:44 thanks 14:45 i wonder whats harder, "oR or "oMR 14:45 i would say "oR 14:45 because reflection nor MR fully negates death rays 14:46 could get reflected back and do some damage to the player 14:46 i am wondering how spellcasters will kill him then 14:46 hm ok 14:46 reflection is still 100% for monsters but not MR for monsters for death rays 14:46 oh 14:47 AoE spells would be a good choice 14:47 specifically 'acid blast' 14:49 and using stormbringer against rodney is undervalued. its one of the best weapons to use against him imo 14:50 <{Demo}> nope 14:50 <{Demo}> thirsty darts 14:50 'thirsty' darts dont exist in most variants 14:51 <{Demo}> what u call thirsty in evilhack? 14:51 blodthirsty projectiles sounds a bit OP lmao 14:51 decay 14:51 but drain attacks arent a thing in evilhack 14:51 not as an obj property anyways 14:52 only defensively 14:52 your rodney buff would be nice in vanilla too 14:52 drain res 14:52 50/50 comr / "OR 14:52 <{Demo}> if i can spam 3 lvl drains on him in a turn it would be nice 14:52 <{Demo}> with as low base dmg as possible 14:52 could farm magic armor with that though 14:52 that'd be a nasty farm though tbf 14:53 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:48657 14:53 K2: does the switch of attack order has any effect? 14:54 it makes the monster use any wielded weapon first 14:54 in the attack chain 14:55 <{Demo}> so if i see rodney i gotta spam drain life spell 14:55 <{Demo}> got it 14:55 sure but does that make a difference? 14:55 maybe he has a nasty weapon 14:55 not really 14:55 it could maybe 14:55 oh he might get magicbane? 14:55 say if rodney stole your artifact weapon 14:55 and cancel first, then stell 14:56 steel 14:56 steal wtf 14:56 :) 14:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Bat Fem Law), 47719 points, T:6864, killed by a priestess of Moloch, while paralyzed by a monster 14:57 oh false is passed so no magicbane 14:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:52536 14:58 stenno1 ? 15:00 just looked at the mksobj call 15:01 oh 15:01 yeah its not going to create an artifact for rodney 15:02 the weapon he gets will have an offensive obj prop on it though 15:08 i should do some speedrun training i guess so i can make some proper runs tomorrow 15:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 blue dragon scale mail", on T:7 15:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:53704 15:10 <{Demo}> hey k2, something you might wanna wiztest in evilhack to make sure it works. piss off the oracle, watch them run around, save and reload the game and see if they can still run around 15:11 ... hah 15:11 <{Demo}> idk if anything bad happens 15:12 nothing bad 15:12 she just stops moving 15:12 <{Demo}> ok so that is bad then, oh well 15:12 <{Demo}> didnt test it was just looking at commits 15:12 yeah her state isnt saved/restored 15:12 -!- moony is now known as zoomy 15:12 -!- zoomy is now known as noomy 15:12 good catch 15:13 but wwwwwhhhyyyy 15:13 [hdf-us] [slex] quark (Cha Dop Mal Law), 34 points, T:645, killed by a monster (glam bitch) 15:13 dnh question: Bad option line: "SYMBOLS=S_ghost:8" what is the correct way to set ghost monster symbol? 15:14 i think i know why 15:14 yeah... 15:14 <{Demo}> permonst shit isn't saved 15:14 yup 15:14 <{Demo}> well it might be for some things now idk 15:14 had same problem with shambling horrors 15:14 <{Demo}> some variants might do it now so i have no idea 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Nelennath (Val Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13309 15:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:46333 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Val Hum Fem Law), 6093 points, T:6573, killed by an uninjured giant spider 15:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Gnr-Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2109 15:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2579 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 20836 points, T:2124, killed by a housecat 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Nelennath (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the Rat King, on T:13725 15:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3173 15:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3331 15:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 12844 points, T:2849, killed by a dwarf zombie 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Hum Mal Law), 4440 points, T:6078, poisoned by a dart 15:31 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 15:34 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 15:36 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:36 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 15:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5033 15:41 stenno1: this better be sub-2h or you're fired from #hardfought 15:42 6x8 tool store but no tonal 15:42 4*8 15:42 fire horn? 15:42 gogogo 15:42 whats with fire horn? 15:42 it's a tonal when the charges are out 15:42 go mofo 15:42 yeah but i got a food horn 15:42 oohhhh 15:43 rip 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:20340 15:44 !rng nao366 | hfe370 15:44 aoei: hfe370 15:44 you got it Beholder 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4004 15:47 <@luxidream> !who 15:47 @luxidream: [hdf-us] cilantro [sp] hothraxxa [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] karibou [evil] bouquet [evil] Kougyoku [nh370] zantyr [nh370] jizosaves [nh370] Kevkat [nh370] ZlojSerge [nh4] every [xnh] | [hdf-eu] Glord [nh370] stenno [nh370] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 15:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:6243 15:48 rip 15:48 dug down into bigroom 15:48 oof 15:48 big ouchie bruh 15:48 you can make it tho 15:48 stay determined 15:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:6575 15:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 94791 points, T:9533, quit 15:52 {Demo} I see one way to fix that issue you pointed out. kinda sloppy but it should work 15:53 havent tested anything yet 15:53 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:53 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 15:53 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 15:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 917 points, T:1917, killed by a bolt of fire 15:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:31645 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 13943 points, T:13335, killed by an elven soldier, while sleeping 15:57 sleeping elven soldiers very deadly 15:58 known for sleep-walking, sleep-broadsword-hacking, sleep-archery... all the deadly sleep-arts 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed oh6's ghost, the former Wanderer, on T:1804 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1941 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2374 points, T:2099, killed by wounded Mr. Akalapi; the shopkeeper 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:52452 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:52454 16:07 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 16:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2392 16:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:9247 16:11 hmm 16:11 [hdf-us] [un] 4nVTxyKh (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1319 points, T:1676, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:11 comr i guess 16:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2608 16:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:9247 16:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] guest99987 (Val Dop Fem Neu), 498 points, T:816, killed by a kitten 16:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:9304 16:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:48111 16:18 o/ 16:18 \o 16:18 [hdf-us] [slshm] guest99987 (Val Dop Fem Neu), 231 points, T:403, killed by a small mimic 16:18 anyone ;) racing today? 16:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3884 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 98 points, T:2282, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 16:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4450 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4584 16:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] guest99987 (Val Dop Fem Neu), 87 points, T:142, killed by a kobold 16:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:9924 16:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:5906 16:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Nomad, on T:48575 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1953 points, T:4475, killed by an owlbear 16:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] 4nVTxyKh (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:797 16:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:10848 16:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] 4nVTxyKh (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1234 points, T:900, killed by a small mimic, while praying 16:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:7142 16:34 kinda wanna wish for =oLevi 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 404 points, T:1215, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 16:35 [hdf-us] [spl] 4nVTxyKh (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 36 points, T:158, killed by a sewer rat 16:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 29359 points, T:7379, killed by a heavily wounded invisible stalker 16:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:11563 16:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:11564 16:38 booo rip 16:38 i accidentally dropped excal 16:39 and fucked up a lot before i foujnd it again 16:40 imma do a little break 16:40 1h40 in would be my estimate 16:41 contemplating =oLevi or [oSpeed wish 16:41 wow is still 1:2 so 16:41 could at least wish for speed probably 16:41 c'mon do sub-2h wallclock like a real man 16:42 guess i dont _really_ need speed boots 16:42 <@luxidream> Says you 16:42 don't wish for speed boots 16:42 also not levi 16:42 says who lux 16:42 doing the standard route from here i guess 16:42 exca is op 16:42 i will do it wallclock like a real woman obviously 16:42 <@luxidream> “Cmon do sub 2h wallclock like a real man” 16:43 <@luxidream> ok do it 16:43 well so far its my first break 16:43 so those 1h40 are wallclock 16:43 yeah but you're already losing time talking here :) 16:43 lux: I will! 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 546 points, T:1220, killed by a giant spider 16:43 i just need to get good first :D 16:44 ill allow myself 5 minutes for smoking and drinking and thinking 16:44 smoking is bad dont do it 16:44 but i cant talk i smoked meth two days ago thats probably worse 16:44 yes 16:44 smoking is real good. do it all the time 16:45 well depends waht you're smoking i guess 16:45 oh lol its new moon 16:45 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 16:45 most doctors agree, smoking meth, cigarettes or crack every day is bad for your health 16:45 tinklebear is a stoner 16:45 lightbulb moment 16:45 oh damn stenno killed surtur too 16:45 what time did his game start 16:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] 4nVTxyKh (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3005 points, T:657, killed by a gnome 16:46 doctors, some would say, are also bad for your health. 16:46 depends who you ask 16:46 so you rolls your dice, and takes your chances 16:47 but i think we can all agree smoking crack, meth or especially cigarettes is bad 16:47 I ask myself, "Self, have you encountered any iatrogenic mishaps?" 16:47 aoei: tobacco is very very good. 16:48 no definitely it's bad 16:48 i know cuz i did it a lot 16:48 and it was bad 16:48 it changed muh life! 16:48 for the better 16:48 maybe it's good for me, but bad for you? 16:49 good for health, bad for education 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Adept, on T:4041 16:49 tinklebear: that's possible 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 17622 points, T:2482, killed by a Ms. Sipaliwini, the shopkeeper 16:49 i think nitocine is ok for education but weed is terrible for it 16:50 lol 16:50 do yall like bugles or horns better 16:50 tooled horn better 16:50 doesn't rally soldiers or aggro the guard 16:50 bugles have those drawbacks 16:51 neither scare soldiers iirc 16:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:12316 16:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:51 not sure you can scare soldiers 16:51 they've been trained 16:51 they're fearless 16:51 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 16:51 -!- lxlldr has quit [Client Quit] 16:51 they're soldiers. not robots 16:51 I see, you never met a Bundeswehr soldier 16:51 not fearless 16:51 bhaak: hahaa 16:52 lol 16:52 bhaak: that doesn't count those aren't real soldiers 16:52 FWIW, I was a soldier 16:52 were you a real one? 16:52 wait you don't count either everybody's drafted in your country 16:52 as real as a Swiss soldier can be 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:54265 16:53 yea lol 16:53 everybody who is not clever enough to get a dismissal 16:53 afaik the only real soldier 'roun here is K2 16:53 bhaak: damn how clever do you have to be if *you* don't make hte cut? D: 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4477 16:53 aoei: my parents said I'm not allowed to :) 16:53 :c 16:53 F 16:54 no regrets? 16:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:12498 16:54 no 16:54 did you have to do lots of pushups 16:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:12501 16:54 how does it work 16:54 <@luxidream> So if I blow a bugle next to K2 he becomes hostile? 16:54 try it for science 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1960 points, T:4527, killed by an uninjured tengu 16:54 it might be a roll, toot it multiple times 16:55 lmao lux 16:55 it was actually quite the experience. it wouldn't have to be 4 months long (plus every other year 3 weeks of a repetition course) but I learned something for life every time I was there 16:55 aoei: I was among the first generation to no longer being trained for fighting WW3 with the means of WW2 16:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:12671 16:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:12672 16:56 -!- Kontroll1r has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:56 well im glad somebody is preparing for WW3 16:56 <@luxidream> Don’t worry I’ll have my regular tooled horn in case things go wrong 16:56 we can't be caught with our pants down when china nuke the russians and trump nukes china 16:57 <@luxidream> He only has 4 days left to do that :p 16:57 thank fuck for that 16:57 aoei: I was drafted into a new security part. after the 7 weeks of basic infantry training, it was melee training, shooting 25-50m distance, how to apply handcuffs (handy in the bed room, too!) and stuff like that. 16:57 lol kinky 16:59 !rng try again | accept defeat 16:59 aoei: accept defeat 16:59 :c rip then 16:59 <@luxidream> !whereis stenno 16:59 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] stenno [nh370]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:12779 Vlad's Tower level: 38 16:59 when did his game start 16:59 do we know 16:59 <@luxidream> I saw excal at 2:23 17:00 2:23 what timezone 17:00 <@luxidream> So I would guess at the earliest 2:18 17:00 aoei: later instead of the regular repetitition course, I twice got the chance to "guard" embassies. that's as much active service as possible you can get within the country. the guarding was actually patrolling embassies or standing in front of them and call the real security if anything bad happens :) 17:00 heh cool 17:00 <@luxidream> 1h 42 ago 17:01 i think sub-2h would be tight at this point 17:01 but still possible maybe 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1822 17:01 <@luxidream> probably not possible 17:01 <@luxidream> I don’t know how long his break was though 17:01 he's spending ages in vlads tower for some reason 17:01 luxidream is the wallclock time rule to stop saving/loading repeatedly? 17:01 -!- stenno1 has left #hardfought 17:01 yes 17:02 also doing it in a single sitting is harder thus more impressive generally 17:02 <@luxidream> You can still save and reload 17:02 a sub-2h rt with no saves shouldn't be counted the same as one with saves 17:02 <@luxidream> Timer stills goes though 17:02 I wanted to submit a run but I take breaks periodically 17:02 <@luxidream> Still* 17:02 yeah you can submit it but you have to use the wallclock time 17:03 the dumplog has it at the top 17:03 including sleeping in the middle 17:03 so not gonna submit an 18h time 17:03 well rip 17:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:12914 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5745 17:04 again 17:05 double arahael bones 17:05 lol 17:05 arahael: stop dying :P 17:05 i heard it helps you to win 17:05 or at least diw with a boh 17:05 hothraxxa: lol! 17:05 die 17:05 hothraxxa: careful! 17:05 i have two cursed cloaks of mr now though 17:05 hothraxxa: aphrodite has a wand of lightening and knows to use it. 17:06 shit, is she on this level too? 17:06 hothraxxa: if thats the nymph level, yes. 17:06 hothraxxa: lol rip in peace 17:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:57820 17:06 no both times a dwarf lord took you down 17:06 oh phew 17:06 hothraxxa: downstairs to it was a tiny garden... ah, different one then. 17:06 might have been the same guy 17:07 did you avenge double arahael 17:07 oh yes 17:07 nice 17:07 ^5 17:07 he had a +4 cloak, hard to hit 17:07 it looks good one me 17:07 i need another few evil games, though. having st 10 is a problem. getting much better at it though now. 17:07 hey i'm st:10 17:08 the difference is i will get stringer' 17:08 sftonger 17:08 something like that 17:09 or maybe not. i keep pushing boulders around and strength is not going up 17:09 dex? sure, have a point 17:09 fuck the rng 17:10 hothraxxa: heh. also i am still used to monk. 17:10 yeah you play monk a lot lol 17:11 !whereis hothraxxa 17:11 tinklebear: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil]: (Tou Hum Fem Neu) T:5475 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 17:11 monk is insanely good at melee. 17:11 what sorta weirdo would play so many monks, psh 17:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:13334 17:11 illihid wizard is insanely good at psionic. 17:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:13343 17:11 psionic is p baller 17:11 has to be. survival 17:11 il give you that 17:11 amateurhour: i am the only normal player. you all are the odd ones. 17:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:13363 17:12 <@luxidream> ??? 17:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 24844 points, T:6404, petrified by a chickatrice 17:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:13366 17:12 loooool 17:12 bah. what do you know, you're upside down 17:12 classic stenno wish 17:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:12 hothraxxa: btw, if i am in minetown and have a lamp, there is a chance it's magical. 17:13 mines, anyway. 17:13 cool. i know oil already 17:13 hothraxxa: f*** oil :) 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2511 17:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:13499 17:14 -!- moon-child has quit [Quit: be right back...] 17:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:13517 17:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:13522 17:15 stenno you need to up that kps 17:15 <@luxidream> hm, no hooa 17:15 <@luxidream> at the mercy of the astral rng 17:15 oof 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2669 17:15 that's a bit mean to the humble oil lamp. which has lit the way of so many adventurers 17:16 he has teleportation tho thats handy 17:16 no way he's getting sub-2h wallclock at this point tho, that'd mean ascending in about 5 min 17:16 just doesn't look doable 17:16 <@luxidream> planes takes 5 minutes 17:17 right 17:17 <@luxidream> if you have everything mapped already asc run takes ~10 minutes 17:17 aosdict: heh. but pales utterly to the magic lamp :) 17:17 <@luxidream> it's worse if you don't or you get bad rng 17:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:58517 17:17 * aoei nods 17:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:55185 17:18 idk he could still get sub-2h realtime depending on how long his fag break was 17:18 and he'll still get a decent time which he should submit 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2789 17:19 wish wish Tommo, wise wish 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] coplate (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2430 points, T:2807, killed by a wounded wolf 17:19 lol im so dumb, i have MR from a wizard bones 17:19 idk if i have another game in me today 17:19 oh lol 17:19 just play !bones tommo 17:19 muscle memory 17:19 rly? 17:19 bones seem so upside 17:20 which is why it doesn't count for speedrun submissions :V 17:20 also sometimes you hit on really nasty bones that ruin your run 17:20 ohhh 17:20 <@luxidream> it's possible to ascend <10 min with bones 17:20 its tru, i vanquished a wolf at lv4 17:20 I feel like a better way to prevent save/load abuse could be adding time per save or something 17:20 okay, ill turn it off after this run 17:20 tommo: i've left some seriously bad bones :) 17:20 idk 17:21 amateurhour: that's exactly what wallclock does? 17:21 total time incl. saves 17:21 I mean like 10s or something 17:21 not like 12h 17:21 lol 17:21 oh a flat amount of time per save 17:21 hm idk 17:21 <@luxidream> speedruns should be timed from the start of the game to the end of the game 17:21 like if someone pulled off a 55m run but went for dinner or something in the middle 17:21 <@luxidream> people do speedruns of 20+ hour games in one sitting 17:21 I feel like that should be on the scoreboard if you get me 17:22 taking a break gives you a rest advantage vs someone who didn't take a break 17:22 <@luxidream> you can do nethack in one sitting 17:22 amateurhour: well it is on teh scoreboard under realtime 17:22 it just won't count for wallclock 17:22 nethack in one sitting is exhausting when ur starting out 17:22 yea for sure 17:22 i wanna b kind to myself :) 17:22 i still haven't done it in one sitting 17:22 except that 55m run which would be world record now counts as 1h25m 17:22 no point burning out 17:23 <@luxidream> because it is 1h25 17:23 no chance of segmented category at all? 17:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:37508 17:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 10 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:14728 17:26 idk. i like the idea of just having very clean strict rules for speedrun.com, for everything else you can find records on NHS 17:26 that makes sense to me 17:27 <@luxidream> I don't think an arbitrary time penalty for saving and reloading makes sense 17:27 that'd be to prevent the thing you were worried about, where people screenshot and save/load every turn 17:27 -!- moon-child has joined #hardfought 17:27 yeah but im not sure it's an ideal solution 17:27 just using wallclock seems cleaner imo 17:28 one thing that bothers me about strict aka wallclock times is that it leverages physical ability to an extent, ie ppl with bladder issues can't compete as well 17:28 hm that's a point 17:28 <@luxidream> is there any precedent for rpg speedruns not counting time between saves 17:28 <@riker> luxiderp: save & load, or just on level select? 17:28 altho i see from luxi's stream that any speedrun is already precluding blind participants 17:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law), 408374 points, T:14926, poisoned by Juiblex (with the Amulet) 17:29 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 17:29 amateurhour: What's wrong with screenshotting and save/load every turn? 17:29 <@luxidream> what 17:29 bad luck 17:29 <@riker> my bad, misread didn't see rpg 17:29 well that for that 17:29 !lastgame stenno 17:29 stenno1: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1610827923.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/sporkhack/dumplog/1546261261.sp.txt 17:29 <@riker> and hm. i do'nt think hollow knight speedruns track main menu time? 17:29 <@luxidream> in every rpg I know, when you save and reload, the timer keeps running 17:29 <@riker> from what i've seen at least 17:29 well arahael you'd get a tracked time of like 1 minute for the whole asension lol 17:29 4 times unihorn fail in a row 17:30 stenno1: jeez 17:30 that sucks 17:30 <@luxidream> why didn't you kill juiblex first 17:30 man this was quite a good run 17:30 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 157 points, T:343, killed by a hobbit 17:30 2h16 in 17:30 2h10 realtime approx 17:30 big oofs 17:31 big rip 17:31 <@luxidream> rip 17:31 so 20 minutes more i guess 17:31 eeh 17:31 fwiw it's generally frowned upon for segmented speedruns on speedrun.com, however most games can be restarted arbirarily unlike nethack 17:31 wouldn't even be pb 17:31 but i got so much nice stuff 17:31 quoting the relevant FAQ 17:31 Segmented runs (runs performed in multiple sittings, often with each segment retried many times until it is made as optimal as possible) are most often disallowed. Communities may in rare cases choose to explicitly track these under a separate category. 17:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4492 17:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 10350 points, T:4536, killed by a gnome 17:32 lets see what the chance of unihorn failing 4 times in a row is 17:32 painful to see the "you feel much worse" messages 17:32 with mmaxed luck 17:32 but I guess if it's only me that cares there's no point adding another ctegory 17:32 tommo: i guess competetive stuff like speedrunning will partly rely on some physical attributes and be unfair on people with certain disabilities unfortunately 17:32 sorry, stenno 17:32 stenno1: not sure luck even matters tbh 17:32 ya, see the the olympics/paralympics 17:32 98.43% 17:32 1.5% 17:32 but it's worth considering mitigation for low cost 17:33 tommo: true 17:33 so unbelievable bad luck 17:33 amateurhour: Ah, you mean, like, you take the screenshot, save, then work out the keypresses required for the map? 17:33 why, you planning on doing it? 17:33 :P 17:33 amateurhour: you might not be the only one who cares 17:33 this is wow wresting while zapping bad luck 17:33 <@luxidream> is a 2-3 hour speedrun an unreasonable length? 17:33 <@luxidream> there are many longer rpgs 17:33 annoying to lose a game to that unbelivable bullshit 17:33 stenno: without the three consecutive "feel much worse" messages, four in-a-row unihorn failures might not be the end 17:33 we are open to feedbacks 17:33 and community requests etc 17:34 should i make more food 17:34 next time i wish for speed boots 17:34 food is good 17:34 that killed me 17:34 [hdf-us] [un] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:52296 17:34 aoei: Food is good. :) 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 622 points, T:1820, killed by a wounded little dog 17:34 Currently eating a bit of congee. 17:35 tinklebear: well he hit me 4 times so i get the message 4 times 17:35 speed 3? 17:35 yeah, but you cured yourself after the first one. 17:35 wait what 17:35 WHAT 17:35 SPEED 3? 17:35 How do you figure out the speed? 17:36 did he get 3 attacks in a row against me? 17:36 stenno1: no 17:36 he got to move on 3 turns but you also got your move 17:36 You were hit by a disease attack 17:36 but this could have been avoided if you dug out of him after curing the first time 17:36 or even before 17:36 but he has speed 3 17:36 i have speed 12 + 1/3 17:36 wasnt burdened 17:37 speed 3 means he has a 1/4 chance to move on each turn 17:37 so he got lucky with the moves 17:37 <@luxidream> unlikely things happen in nethack 17:37 and moved 3 turns in a row 17:37 <@luxidream> what happened to your life saving anyway 17:37 him hitting you 3 *times* in a row sounds like on a single turn, which didn't happen 17:37 so he got 1/12 chance and i missed a 98.5% chance 17:37 so whats that 1/1000 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3407 17:37 like lux said, unlikely things happen (not just in nethack) 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:784 17:38 1/1000 chance is quite unlikely, yeah 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 263 points, T:784, killed by a gas spore's explosion 17:38 still don't get why you didn't dig out of him 17:38 would have cut his hp quite a lot, you may have finished him off faster 17:38 i was confident that i could heal up fist 17:38 then it wouldn't matter 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3435 17:38 oops 17:38 but unfortunately the odds were against me 17:38 this is my usual strat and i neve die to juib 17:38 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38 ^^; 17:38 unless i miss the 999/1000 chance 17:39 i'd say still better to dig out of him 17:39 it's faster 17:39 12.5% * 1.5% is a little less than 2/1000 17:39 oh well then 1/500 17:39 <{Demo}> sucks 17:39 arahael: I look up "Juiblex" in src/monst.c, and see this: LVL(50, 3, -7, 65, -15). The second LVL item is the speed 17:39 yeah i should have onsidered it before 17:39 tinklebear: Ah. 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3511 17:40 should have known that juib can get 3 consecutive actions aginst me and that my unihorn might fail 4 times in a row 17:40 <@luxidream> what happened to your life saving 17:40 im not sure he picked it up from vlads 17:40 did he 17:40 i used guarding 17:40 i dont remember seeing him 17:40 arahael: it's 12 in evilhack... 17:40 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 17:40 tinklebear: Yeah they've all been bumped up. :) 17:41 <@luxidream> !lastgame stenno 17:41 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-09-23%2009%3A11%3A29%2C%20stenno-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1610827923.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/sporkhack/dumplog/1546261261.sp.txt 17:41 tinklebear: I got lucky when I killed juib that one time. Immeditely engulfed me, and I could just wack him dead in that. 17:41 next time just normally speed boots 17:41 or wear LS instead of guarding maybe 17:41 guarding isn't that useful unless you find it early and have no better amulet 17:41 Or Ring of P'tul 17:42 according to the scoreboard, you've played just under 4k games and 230 ascensions, so i guess there's actually reasonable chance for you to run into this 1/1000 case 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "greased blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:846 17:42 fwiw... 17:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2144 17:42 tommo: I saw Luxidream get eaten by a purple worm yesterday. summoned by a shrieker in the early dungeon 17:42 jesus 17:42 minotaurs just punched me to death too 17:42 <@luxidream> not the first time either 17:42 <@luxidream> I was pissed 17:42 i think that's quit erare but he has played a lot of games lol 17:43 i'd never seen it happen before 17:43 hooray for 3.7 making them only *baby* purple worms 17:43 just speed boots to get my timing agian 17:43 i almost died to a worm lategame on yesterday's ascension cuz i had no digging 17:43 I've gotten the worst "Shambling horror" in the history of evilhack, imho, once. :) 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:856 17:43 lux: did it break a streak? 17:43 don't think i will get that kind of run again 17:44 i'll have none of that defeatest talk of course you will 17:44 early wish, found =oConflict and =oTele 17:44 you'll have even better runs 17:44 and you'll ascend sub-90min 17:44 boh 17:44 <@luxidream> no I died before that already 17:44 single sitting 17:44 u can do it stenno1 17:44 well not in the near future 17:44 Is it saturday for most of you guys? 17:44 because that shit fucking sucks 17:44 u never know :) 17:44 its saturday here for about 15 more minutes 17:45 its mid afternoon here :P 17:45 yeha wasted my saturday evening by playing shit game 17:45 lol stenno1 is raged 17:45 -!- moon-child has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 17:45 lol so funny 17:45 :P 17:45 well i can shut up til I get the sub-2h myself i guess 17:45 <@luxidream> 😦 17:45 when i get tilted, sumtimes it helps to angrily do my dishes or sumn 17:46 and then i will laugh at stenno some more :> 17:46 if stenno were a pinball game right now... 17:46 or walks, luv walks 17:46 tonal would have been fine 17:46 that would have improved my run 17:46 it was a pretty cool run stenno 17:46 and an epic death 17:46 can horn of plenty FINALLY be tonal when empty 17:46 sadly i don't think so 17:46 i don't get it why its different for that 17:47 im not sure actually 17:47 why should you be able to play a cornucopia 17:47 ^ its true. when u get past the upset, it's gonna be a great story 17:47 <@luxidream> why does a cornucopia look like an instrument 17:47 the other horns are instruments you play 17:47 nope, "nothing happens" if horn of plenty is empty 17:47 lol, tommo, with your "do the dishes/yoga/take a walk" lifehacks! 17:47 :D 17:47 bless 17:47 :))) 17:47 if i find tonal early i might more confidently dfv 17:47 @luxidream greg88 and I were going to address that a while back 17:47 then he vanished and I haven't followed up on it 17:48 also accidentally wasted a wish at some point because i had my wow in open inventory and mistyped 17:48 tommo: walks are good its a true 17:48 <@luxidream> wait really stenno? 17:48 i walk a lot when im stressed or anxious 17:48 <@luxidream> that wasn't livelogged was it? 17:48 it was 17:48 tinklebear: its true tho! i luv nethack but i definitely find i dissociate into it sumtimes. im always pleasantly surprised by how a break shifts my mood 17:48 i got another magic marker 17:48 huh which wish was it. oh 17:48 second magic marker was not intended 17:48 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 17:49 ah 17:49 <@luxidream> oh I thought you did that on purpose 17:49 * tinklebear knows that tommo is wise 17:49 i usually wish for like a tonne of markers 17:49 tommo is the wisest 17:49 right away? 17:49 hehe 17:49 that sounds silly 17:49 no just in general lol 17:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 10314 points, T:2851, killed by a gnome lord zombie, while praying 17:49 i wish for them when i need them 17:49 i've had games wehre i wished for 4 markers over the game 17:49 <@luxidream> the second marker wouldn't have been too bad 17:49 <@luxidream> for mapping, etc 17:50 maybe engulfing monsters get quicker attacks 17:50 wait 1/4 chance to move 17:50 i always thought i needed to save my markers for last second geno, etc. but since i started going ham w/ mapping, the late game's been a lot more fun 17:50 so its not 1/12 but 1/4^3 17:51 so 1/64 * 1.5% 17:51 -!- moon-child has joined #hardfought 17:51 1/64 * 1/80 17:51 hmm not quite 17:51 -!- moon-child has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 17:51 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2689 points, T:2013, killed by a dwarf lady 17:51 1/64 or so 17:52 so 1/64 * 1/64 17:52 i will say, saving runs is nice 4 the sake of hopping into chat 4 a bit ^^ 17:52 tru tommo 17:52 -!- moon-child has joined #hardfought 17:53 0.000244140625 17:53 0.02% ? 17:53 and you can do it without losing too much time unless you're going flat out 17:53 for optimal run don't check irc 17:53 can't be that low 17:53 stenno1: who cares 17:53 the death was unlucky but also avoidable 17:53 -!- moon-child has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53 be more prepared in future 17:53 like with speed boots 17:53 use "oLS 17:53 if you have the ammy slot 17:53 guarding isn't that good 17:54 if you need the slot for reflection that's another thing 17:54 was your unihorn blessed? 17:54 so just imagine i would have had 17:54 no 17:54 ... 17:54 why was it not blessed 17:54 hrm 17:54 always bless it 17:54 only 1% chane 17:54 only 1% chance difference after 4 tries 17:55 1.5% 17:55 stenno1: still rookie mistake not blessing the unihorn 17:55 u cant deny that the chance came up tho 17:55 you of all people should know better 17:55 rookie wtf? 17:55 guards you from bad RNG 17:55 can you stop shit talking now? 17:55 works better 17:55 costs you one holy water pot 17:55 how am i talking shit 17:55 just don't lecture me 17:55 there's like barely any downside to blessing the unihorn 17:55 or do it tomorrow 17:56 ^ 17:56 when i am less already super pissed off 17:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4026 points, T:2889, killed by a soldier ant 17:56 kay 17:56 not a good idea to piss me off further 17:56 sorry 17:58 ok 17:59 stenno: I have a question that I think gets to the crux of the Juiblex thing. 17:59 what is that 17:59 If you had prioritized killing Juiblex, how many hits would he have gotten in? 18:00 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:00 like, if you did no unihorn stuff until J was dead 18:00 like 4 18:00 and he was regenerating on the upstairs 18:01 actually don't know if that costs him an action or not 18:01 Get engulfed. Wear some something anti-sickness. Maybe 5 hits? ;) 18:01 something anti-sickness? 18:01 Oh, hits by juib... Zero... :D 18:01 > anti-sickness 18:01 > vanilla 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 3364 points, T:4506, killed by an uninjured ape 18:01 been playing too much evilhack arahael 18:02 Ah, oops. Even easier in vanilla... Get engulfed. Wack him until dead. Drink the u-horn once or twice. 18:02 does upstairs regeneration cost an action or does it just happen 18:02 -!- stenno1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0] 18:02 * tinklebear has no idea 18:02 I think it just happens but I've honestly never checked, that'd be good to know 18:02 Maybe I should play vanilla again this afternoon. Would be nice to stop dying. 18:06 <@luxidream> teleporting to the upstairs costs an action 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3096 18:06 <@luxidream> I don't know how quickly they heal after that 18:07 fortunately juiby being slow means he rarely gets to teleport and heal 18:09 -!- moon-child has joined #hardfought 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3408 18:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3629 18:16 done with the fucking trolling now? 18:16 thanks 18:17 lol. you're a very good sport, stenno! 18:17 aoei: are you still taking votes on making food? 18:18 * tinklebear would vote yes 18:18 <@luxidream> amateurhour: it looks like in other games segmented runs are done to pull off particularly difficult, risky tricks 18:18 <@luxidream> rather than just be there to give the runner a break 18:19 fair enough 18:20 just gotta Get Good 18:20 build up that stamina 18:20 what trolling 18:20 tinklebear: ok noted 18:21 what are we voting on 18:21 whether i should make food rn 18:21 aoei: that was the 5th person to tell me that it was just so easy killing him 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4157 18:21 looks like jury leaning otward syes 18:21 hmm what happens if you don't make food right now? 18:21 4th 18:21 takeaway instead? 18:21 amateurhour: then i just eat my leftovers i guess 18:21 lol takeaway 18:21 tell it to someone with money 18:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4195 18:22 someone with money: get a takeaway 18:22 don't waste your money on drugs then 18:22 flatmate lend me €4 earlier tho so i bought a frozen pizza and beer :> 18:22 stenno: fair point 18:22 drugs are fun tho :< 18:22 but also bad for you i guess 18:22 doctors say otherwise, aoei! 18:23 if you don't have any money drugs are double bad 18:23 :O 18:23 ya 18:23 because they waste your money and fuck your health 18:23 if you don't have any money, drugs may be all you have left! 18:23 <@luxidream> smoking is also bad stenno 😦 18:23 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 126 points, T:533, killed by a small mimic 18:23 ^ 18:23 what they both said 18:23 yeah but at least i can afford it 18:23 lmao 18:23 so its only single bad, not double bad 18:23 i need a job and then i can afford all the things 18:24 does anybody have jobs 18:24 that i can have 18:24 <@luxidream> don't you have phd 18:24 ill take whatever you got 18:24 yes 18:24 i do 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +3 Magicbane", on T:19302 18:24 <@luxidream> then why does no one want you 😦 18:24 if only it worked like this: 18:24 bio right, not IT 18:24 because im overqualified for like 18:24 90% ofjobs 18:24 henlo i hav pdh gib job pls 18:24 stenno: chemistry 18:24 amateurhour: lol!! 18:25 i wish 18:25 and then they go henlo here u go i make u ceo 18:25 ha 18:25 anyway problem is not nobody wanting me lux, at least not primarily 18:25 primary problem is i suck at writing job applications 18:25 * tinklebear hates to beg 18:25 i just get crippling anxiety and play nethack instead 18:26 <@luxidream> relatable tbh 18:26 can maybe give you a contact 18:26 but that would be IT 18:26 stenno: gimme a contact if you have one 18:26 im looking for coding jobs 18:26 gott a check it out first 18:26 which makes my chem phd slightly awkward in some ways 18:26 you knowing python is already helpful 18:26 yea thats cool 18:26 i know loads of langs 18:27 imma come back to you tomorrow 18:27 👍 18:27 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 385 points, T:899, killed by a little dog 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Adept, on T:4406 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll labeled READ ME on an altar, on T:4436 18:33 * tinklebear contemplates a world where you go to the tennants union hall to find an apartment, and the programmers union or whatever to find work 18:34 tinklebear: you make me sad talking about that because in most neoliberal societies the unions have been utterly destroyed 18:34 * tinklebear knows all too well 18:34 :C 18:34 rip unions 18:34 germany has strong unions 18:34 ok i should go there then 18:34 I've got very mixed feeligns about unions. :( 18:34 is there a programmer union of some kind 18:35 <{Demo}> I had a really goofy job where I'm a "senior developer" for the title but it actually means cowboy code monkey 18:35 {Demo}: Same here! 18:35 omg! 18:35 senior but literally the only programmer? 18:35 maybe i should be less nervous about applying for the "senior dev" ads 18:35 <{Demo}> well we have another 18:35 lol 18:35 <{Demo}> but he just gets paid to come to meetings 18:35 in IT you tend to get jobs by knowing other people 18:35 <{Demo}> and every now and then is assigned something small 18:36 stenno: that's not IT that's literally everything 18:36 aoei: The only thing that matters for a "senior dev" role is that you've been in the field for a long-ish time. 18:36 connections are everything lmao 18:36 aoei: don't think so 18:36 stenno: well, i think so 18:37 at least not in germany 18:37 maybe not every single profession 18:37 Woah, grimtooth is _awesome_. If perm-poisoned (as I think it is in evil), does that mean the corpses are still safe or would they cause sickness? 18:37 but certainly not limited to IT lol 18:37 The corpses are safe 18:37 Unless K2 changed something recently that I didn't notice 18:38 VaderFLAG: Thanks. 18:38 VaderFLAG: Lets not suggest it. ;) 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 112 points, T:318, killed by a scroll of earth 18:40 arahael: my last supposedly union job was a veritable pit of hell, fwiw. I can certainly understand mixed feelings. 18:40 yea i see 18:41 tinklebear: I've never been in a union, but my wife is a teacher and is practically *therefore* in teh teacher's union. 18:41 still, as a staunch lefty the death of unions makes me very sad 18:41 tinklebear: I can see some parts of my career that would be *so much better* with a union. And some parts of my wife's job that suck because of the union. 18:41 the clue's in the name... 18:41 united we are stronger 18:41 yeah, aoei. my union at that time was clearly zombified. 18:41 :( 18:42 undead, for real 18:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6526 18:42 for some strange reason, extremely wealthy neoliberalists don't want strong unions, but i can't figure it out 🤔 18:42 lol 18:44 That said, right now with software engineering and IT as it is, I think I'd probably join a union fi there was one and it was a good one. 18:47 career scientists also have no unions and they really need one 18:47 being a post-doc is hell 18:47 i don't know first-hand but I know enough of them to know it sucks 18:50 without a union, mgmt can just shove whatever shit they like down the pipe and individual workers have to either shovel it up, or quit. it's a shit-distribution system. 18:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:9393 18:52 someone won an ig nobel prize for a paper claiming promoting employees at random is more efficient 18:52 omg 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 18653 points, T:7286, petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed 18:52 quantum mechanic tele'd me onto the corpse T_T 18:53 wow, that's so evil and rare 18:53 that's an epic death 18:53 stenno where r u 18:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:41411 18:53 it might be more efficient in the macro scale but on the micro scale, no business is really going to want to run the risk of promoting a guy on a team who's clearly much worse than other members 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 4665 points, T:5092, poisoned by a killer bee 18:53 time to !bones 18:54 I'd do it for kicks 18:54 !rng promote alice | promote bob 18:54 amateurhour: promote alice 18:54 gratz alice 18:54 wow and think about the time savings I just made on having to make difficult decisions 18:54 aosdict: Keep thinking that. 18:55 aosdict: It happens! 18:55 * tinklebear has definitely witnessed it happening 18:55 often, good + speaks up < bad + stays quiet 18:55 :\ 18:56 Right. 18:56 Plus, if you promote someone, they often have less time to do the real work. 18:56 Which means the rest of the team doesn't try to stop it! 18:57 u know what'd be great 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:19730 18:57 if promotions were just general wage increases instead 18:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:41614 18:57 like "oh we need your team to elect someone to focus on overhead, so here's an extra .25 on the hour for all of you" 18:58 tommo: Some places basically do that too, in theory. 18:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:41660 18:58 if the ig study has merit, it seems to point away from task hierarchy 18:59 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2560 points, T:3799, killed by a soldier ant 18:59 anyway, please hire me lol 18:59 *sigh*, team-a again. Not having poison-res sucks. 18:59 tommo: I'm not even lower management! :D 19:00 arahael: given a scenario where incompetent guy gets promoted, there's a difference in if it's presented as "management has discussed it among themselves and decided this is the right thing for the business" versus "yeah he was definitely picked randomly because that's what we do here" 19:00 .D: 19:00 just shrug off the poison, walk it off 19:00 another problem solved - if you need any more hints just lemme know 19:01 amateurhour: ... Appreciate it! 19:01 any marginal efficiency increase you might get is probably nullified and then some by the risk of resentment 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3090 19:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Lama, on T:41722 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6297 19:01 ooo there's a lotta kindsa random too hey? how about seniority weighted 19:02 game design brain activated 19:02 tommo: Start your own business and try it out! ;) 19:03 lol 19:03 Hi people 19:03 here's the paper if you're curious 19:03 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S037843710900822X 19:03 so you could work for a team of 10 year veterans for a month and then get promoted on your nonzero chance, that's fun 19:03 !booze amateurhour 19:03 * Beholder passes amateurhour a tall glass of booze, prayed over by the /dev/null/oracle at 76 degrees Celsius. 19:03 i guess technically i'm a business since i contract 19:03 tommo: Honestly, I think about doing my own business all the time. Trouble is, I like having a salary. And i have no product and no idea what I'd actually /do/ in said business... 19:03 proud practicer of the trivial case 19:03 tommo: Ah, and yeah, indeed. If you contract, you're a business. 19:04 preprint available here if you're paywalled https://arxiv.org/abs/0907.0455 19:04 tommo, ur promoted <3_<3 19:04 expanding > contracting 19:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 42329 points, T:11053, killed by an elf mummy, while fainted from lack of food 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:6544 19:05 arahael: i just talk to people about what they need. if i think i can help, that has value. i don't have a big inspired concept, i just trust ppl to respect the value of my labour 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an apron on an altar, on T:6549 19:05 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 19:06 tommo: The ironic thing is... Since you're a contractor, they're far more likely to respect teh value of your labour. 19:06 ya! its new territory for me tho. this is a covid thing 19:07 so im still figuring out pros/cons 19:08 oof rip tommo, you got teleported while blind i guess 19:08 Hi, there is a supposedly cursed bag of holding on a bones level. It's too heavy to lift it. Is there any way of blessing it? Or would cancelling work without destroying the whole bag? 19:08 hahaha 19:08 ye 19:08 zapping cancellation at it will uncurse it without affecting the contents 19:08 <{Demo}> I used to do IT work hired as a contractor and my least favorite part was paying double double social security 19:09 i am pro-tractor they are very useful for farming and a lil bit underrated 19:09 <{Demo}> and that it's hard to get paid for doing nothing lol 19:10 amateurhour: is that how crop circles r made? 19:10 {Demo}: Double double social security? 19:10 they figured out how elf circles are made 19:10 they are made by ants 19:10 <{Demo}> only single double 19:10 amateurhour: i thought pro-tractors were nvm tommo did it better 19:10 <{Demo}> idk how double got typed twice 19:10 hehe 19:10 what are those flower circles called 19:11 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2412 points, T:4005, killed by a warg 19:11 hahaha tommo, nice 19:11 {Demo}: Double social security? :) 19:11 @misha: thanks. I'll give it a try. It's on level 28 and the dead priest's equipment seems quite ascencion ready. So there surely is a worthwile ammount of loot in that bag! 19:11 {Demo}: What I mean is, why? 19:11 fairy ring 19:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 489 points, T:1065, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted bat 19:11 stenno: I thought they were usually mushrooms? 19:12 here, we call fairy rings the thing with mushrooms 19:13 I suppose there's no reason a flower couldn't exhibit the same growth pattern as the mushrooms but I think it would be rare if it does happen 19:13 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_ring 19:13 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:13 oh i meant this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_circle_(arid_grass_formation) 19:14 coool 19:15 apparnetly thats still old news though lol 19:17 hehe 19:17 footprints of the gods, tho :3 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:7249 19:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2967 19:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 9686 points, T:4207, killed by a leocrotta 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:91508 19:39 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of teleport control", on T:13021 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2572 points, T:2091, killed by a soldier ant 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3433 19:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3084 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Tymora, on T:56503 19:48 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:13242 19:49 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 19:49 yani: aggravate monster should prevent monsters from fleeing, giving it a niche use for knights who are tired of being called a caitiff 19:49 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 15034 points, T:13184, killed by a panther 19:49 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 19:49 stenno: flower circles == spirograph? 19:50 oh nvm 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3721 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a lamp on an altar, on T:3728 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:56855 19:55 [hdf-us] [dyn] Thyna (ezion) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 903 points, T:2083, killed by a Woodland-elf 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 946 points, T:918, killed by a gnome lady 19:57 spicycebolla: you mean it blocks them from turning to flee, or disables their "fleeing AI"? 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 545 points, T:1232, killed by a dwarf 19:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:4076 19:59 awkwardgrimace.jpg 19:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:13547 19:59 those sound different. 19:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:13547 20:00 i guess you're asking if they should still flee from elbereth? i suppose aggmonst would be more *interesting* if it prevented elbereth, yes 20:01 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 20:02 was thinking about wearing a ring of aggmonst so that things don't run away incidentally midcombat and punish you for normal play 20:03 in relation to... 20:03 spicycebolla: first case, you hit a monster or play a tooled horn (or, I guess, elbereth) and it never turns to flee. second case, monsters can still turn to flee, but they suppress actually running away as long as you're aggravating 20:03 Umbire: knights 20:04 I figured that's what you meant but had to be sure 20:04 ye that honestly sucks a lil 20:04 i will mention knights a third time if necessary :D 20:04 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:05 I've been in and out of various channels and windows, pls 20:05 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 24381 points, T:6129, choked on a food ration 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:638 20:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Bin Gno Fem Non), 140 points, T:395, killed by a grid bug 20:07 !lastgame microlance 20:07 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1610845565.dnh.txt 20:07 scumming 20:07 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2807 20:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3111 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:92137 20:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:57204 20:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3769 20:21 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 20:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 4443 points, T:4297, killed by a slightly wounded fire ant 20:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3733 20:28 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:32 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 20:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "an uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:33604 20:35 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2015 points, T:2804, killed by a water demon 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 2033 points, T:2808, killed by an orcish arrow 20:43 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 833 points, T:269, killed by an orc-captain 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed sack containing 17 items on an altar, on T:3467 20:48 -!- moon-child has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 20:50 -!- moon-child has joined #hardfought 20:51 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Fem Neu) destroyed krm26's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:1071 20:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:33985 20:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 23301 points, T:8372, killed by a troll 20:55 stenno :( 20:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:34055 20:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:34057 20:56 happens 20:57 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Fem Neu), 4189 points, T:1896, killed by a gnomish wizard 20:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2023 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 872 points, T:2252, killed by an uninjured dwarf 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Cen Mal Cha), 2584 points, T:2865, killed by a death ray 21:05 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bort (ezion) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 165 points, T:123, killed by a newt 21:06 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 134 points, T:858, killed by an uninjured water demon 21:09 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had an elven broadsword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:5232 21:13 I didnt realize SlashTHEM was still actively developed 21:13 neat 21:17 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a hobgoblin, on T:7741 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:4459 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4474 21:21 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had a copper splint mail entrusted to her by Mog, on T:6152 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8304 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 2064 points, T:1719, killed by a soldier ant 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 4965 points, T:6643, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse 21:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1678 21:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4025 points, T:1708, killed by a dart 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3385 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Mal Neu), 3315 points, T:3389, killed by a gnomish wizard 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3508 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3566 21:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "a blessed fixed ring of conflict", on T:35635 21:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6567 21:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:35891 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed eitbo's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:6640 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:6641 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a poisoned dart on an altar, on T:6645 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 165 points, T:1243, killed by a giant rat 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 2316 points, T:3919, killed by a vampire bat 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 32 points, T:71, killed by a wounded water moccasin 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:9695 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9750 21:54 -!- moon-child has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Arc Hum Fem Neu) had a copper winged helmet entrusted to her by Camaxtli, on T:1833 22:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 ogresmasher", on T:3258 22:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3557 22:10 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Arc Hum Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Camaxtli, on T:4763 22:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 29019 points, T:11958, killed by a bolt of cold 22:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) was given the Death-Spear of Keptolo, on T:4949 22:17 <{Demo}> the waht now 22:21 "Landlord! I've changed my mind about that harpooneer.—I shan't sleep with him. I'll try the bench here." 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 654 points, T:2647, killed by an uninjured rothe 22:28 K2: links? o: 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) murdered Yxa, his faithful little dog, on T:171 22:31 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:34 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 22:38 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 22:41 -!- moon-child has joined #hardfought 22:42 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:52 -!- infinigo1 is now known as infinigon 22:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 148 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:38142 22:54 infinigon: o/ 22:57 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +3 helm of brilliance", on T:20171 23:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 207 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:38652 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2845 23:06 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 14437 points, T:10556, killed by a wood golem 23:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:38854 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3178 23:11 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:11 good evening Umbire! 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3321 23:12 Are ya codin' son? 23:12 :3 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3516 23:16 Unix SlashTHEM Version 0.9.4 - last build Jan 17 2021 04:15:05. 23:16 ^ test box, not server 23:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:18 I made some small tweaks to Doran's perl script that updates all the skill tables 23:18 kept breaking it in the process, had to manually revert a bunch of automated edits 23:18 but we got there in the end 23:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1523 points, T:2280, killed by an uninjured pony 23:20 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of fencing gloves entrusted to her by Kos, on T:11638 23:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:22 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 172 points, T:311, killed by a wounded gnome 23:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:11758 23:25 K2: Source for that though? 23:25 I need to update a bunch of articles sooooooo bad 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Filcher, on T:20278 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4400 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4619 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1650 23:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:13287 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:1969 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5172 points, T:1977, poisoned by an orcish arrow 23:41 :c 23:43 that was a weird game. i got a poly wand in my starting room, found an armor shop on DL2, retrieved my pet n zapped it until it cound kill the shopkeeper 23:44 hit the mines w full armor basically, fell to mines end & found minetown abandoned 23:44 Umbire - https://github.com/Soviet5lo/SlashTHEM 23:44 Thank! 23:45 tommo, bones or Orc Town? 23:45 orc town 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1186 23:51 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 23:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] mwrynn (Con Hlf Mal Cha), 262 points, T:609, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 23:54 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nhd-Nob Dro Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed fixed scrolls of genocide", on T:14244 23:58 Yeah, Orc Town'll do it 23:59 Hitting that with no poison res after getting deep shafted sucks mastodon balls