00:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Necromancer, on T:45982 00:38 FIQ: Question 00:38 What would you describe your variant as focusing on in terms of enhancing certain NetHack aspects? 00:41 @luxidream what was the time on that 00:42 <@luxidream> 1:27 00:42 <@luxidream> zzz 00:42 Aw 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:46249 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46261 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:46426 00:50 <@luxidream> aoei: did you choke on food again 00:52 i did 00:52 rofl 00:53 tbh i had already made a bunch of mistakes and was too slow 00:53 didnt lose a good run or anything 00:53 still tho if i did explore mode like you told me, fewer dumb splats would be publicly displayed to everyone 00:54 also grats on your lastest valkgdq 00:54 <@luxidream> thanks 00:55 <@luxidream> does rodney not report explore mode? 00:55 hm i dont think he does... 00:55 not 100% sure 00:55 lets try it 00:55 <@luxidream> I decided to stick with valk, because it gives me a second attempt even if I splat at castle 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:46546 00:55 <@luxidream> bar is more consistent probably but ascends in like 1:40+ which is not good 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:46553 00:56 ah 00:56 thats your ratio on valkgdq acct 01:00 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "while you're ahead"] 01:14 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:19 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 01:23 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:48162 01:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:45296 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:48303 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:48364 01:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:48371 01:50 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 01:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:48418 01:54 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:56 come on... 01:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:46191 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2121032 points, T:48439, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eitbo/nethack/dumplog/1610257488.nh.html 02:02 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 762 points, T:1556, killed by a bolt of lightning 02:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 226 points, T:631, killed by a boulder 02:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:46367 02:11 GG! 02:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:46970 02:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 107 points, T:187, killed by a dwarf lord 02:24 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 02:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:47222 02:32 @luxidream What happened 02:33 <@luxidream> bad luck in endgame 02:33 <@luxidream> got amnesiad 3 times unavoidably and forgot charging 02:33 <@luxidream> ran out of resources 02:33 F 02:34 <@luxidream> I'm so pissed off 02:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed Amulet of Unchanging", on T:26307 02:35 [hdf-us] [un] Dragonslayer (Con Vam Mal Cha), 1120 points, T:967, killed by a hill orc 02:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) became the Champion of Camaxtli, on T:47294 02:36 <@luxidream> against one of the mind flayers I was instantly surrounded and zapped death at it 3 times 02:36 <@luxidream> missed all three times 02:37 <@luxidream> 0 AC monster so that's like a 1/125 chance 02:37 <@luxidream> if any of those had hit then maybe I could have remembered charging and won the game 02:39 Frustrating! 02:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:47456 02:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2156 points, T:2369, killed by a piranha 02:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:26443 02:44 :/ 02:44 That's shit 02:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:46 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:47839 02:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Croesus, on T:26714 02:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) was given their Quest, on T:26872 02:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:00 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3417 points, T:2852, killed by an owlbear 03:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:48274 03:04 !tell LarienTelrunya https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Slash%27EM_Extended 03:04 No worries, Umbire, I've got this! 03:04 !tell LarienTelrunya Thought I'd start with the description and get that done, the tropes should come naturally after :B Anyhow tell me what you think! 03:04 No worries, Umbire, I've got this! 03:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1195 points, T:1513, killed by a dwarf king 03:13 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2714 points, T:2535, killed by a bolt of cold 03:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) destroyed Acererak, on T:27738 03:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:48116 03:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:48123 03:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Sir Garland, on T:28168 03:51 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 03:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:28483 03:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed the Nightmare, on T:28497 03:57 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:28758 04:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:28877 04:04 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:28908 04:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Garland, on T:29001 04:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) destroyed Chaos, on T:29177 04:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 godhands", on T:9497 04:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Axus, on T:29536 04:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1564 04:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:11347 04:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:29911 04:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Oona, on T:30045 04:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:12549 04:31 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 04:36 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:37 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 04:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:12996 04:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:30348 04:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2779 points, T:4099, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 04:53 Bah. Poison instadeaths are irritating 04:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:16939 05:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 38996 points, T:9252, killed by an ettin mummy 05:07 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:07 F 05:13 !tell Umbire omg the page is great ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thanks a lot for making it! minor nitpick though, the channel is spelled #em.slashem.me :D you might want to correct that so that people don't end up in an empty misspelled channel 05:13 LarienTelrunya: Message from Umbire at 2021-01-12 03:04 EST: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Slash%27EM_Extended 05:13 LarienTelrunya: Message from Umbire at 2021-01-12 03:04 EST: Thought I'd start with the description and get that done, the tropes should come naturally after :B Anyhow tell me what you think! 05:13 No worries, LarienTelrunya, I've got this! 05:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 188 points, T:310, killed by an uninjured hobbit 05:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 05:20 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 05:22 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3092 points, T:185, quit 05:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8175 05:25 -!- stenno3 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:30 oh and I absolutely agree that you can never have enough fleecy bundles, or high-heeled shoes for that matter ;) 05:47 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 05:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4791 points, T:5242, killed by withering away 05:52 -!- lxlldr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 427 points, T:630, killed by a land mine 05:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:22077 06:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1179 06:12 You finish eating the tengu corpse. You feel in control of yourself. 06:13 gz 06:14 stupid demogorgon! he root pw'ed away for the second time now 06:15 yesssss suffer at the hands of your evil creation 06:15 >:) 06:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1009 points, T:1479, killed by a scroll of earth 06:16 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 06:16 oh amateurhour did you see Umbire's slex page for att? it's great <3 06:18 I don't really get what att is for so can't really comment lol 06:23 [hdf-eu] [slex] Ulf (AmyBSOD) (Ast Hrl Mal Neu) obtained the Bell of Opening, on T:68044 06:23 oh damn that bug again 06:24 it's fixed in 2.70 but as long as I'm still on this old version, I'll have to live with it 06:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:11601 06:29 keep picking up the bell till K2 updates or deletes slex :) 06:29 heh, updating, this ongoing char will still be on the old version though 06:32 minotaur priestesses are such bitches... what goddamn variant invented those anyway 06:32 dnethack apparently? 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1516 06:33 yep 06:33 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 06:35 The minotaur priestess casts a spell! 06:35 The minotaur priestess opens up a can of whoop-ass! 06:35 lol 06:35 do you mean they're strong or they're weak? 06:35 they're way too strong with their goddamn spells 06:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Leeroy (And-Ana And Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:12463 06:36 at least my mount is a vampire with level-draining bites, who can steal levels from the enemy spellcasters 06:38 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:38 did you buff monster spellcasting? 06:39 well I changed it; they no longer cast non-stop like they do in vanilla, but the spells can be cast at range (except touch of death) and new monster spells were added 06:39 that'd be why they're so nasty then I guess 06:40 lol there's an ice box inside this sack 06:40 no idea how that even fits in there :P 06:40 not a bug it's a feature 06:40 yep 06:41 still fun though 06:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1110 points, T:1857, killed by an uninjured dwarf 06:43 wtf the downstair on Baphomet's lair was invisible 06:44 do you have double see invisible? 06:44 haha, only single 06:44 now whose lair has lots of water and ice... Levistus maybe? 06:48 oh no, Geryon appears before me! 06:49 and of course he also warped away 06:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:27223 06:52 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:53 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:02 15:01 < bouquet> and (A)ll is a terrible option with regard to container operations. 07:02 ^ I agree with this. It exists only to destroy bags of holding. 07:03 Nobody in the history of the game has ever selected this option on purpose. 07:03 whose lair was it in the end Amy? 07:03 amateurhour: Geryon's 07:03 Keep calm and Geryon 07:04 oh no, the grave wall level! completely forgot about the existence of that 07:04 the one where every square is a wall? 07:04 nah that's level 13 07:05 but I'm on level 70, which is a full-screen grave wall room with tons of monsters 07:05 was gonna ask how you could forget that abomination 07:05 uh I mean addition 07:08 https://abload.de/img/burnopathy-gravewalls99jrf.png (and that's not even close to showing the full monster population) 07:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:9112 07:09 is it like the level 13 one but worse? 07:09 much worse 07:09 I think I've had that one randomly 07:09 also it has grave walls, not normal walls 07:09 as a specialist 07:09 I just assumed it was a variant of the level 13 one 07:09 i got demolished 07:10 yeah I can imagine ;) in this case, the fact that I need to find the sheol stair somewhere in gehennom makes it even worse because it could be on this level 07:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:10 is sheol mandatory then? 07:10 yeah because the Vlad stair is in there 07:11 but first I'll farlook everything that's currently visible, so that I roughly know what I'm up against ;) 07:12 sounds boring u should just yolo it 07:12 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 37635 points, T:5796, killed by a soldier ant 07:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 helping hand", on T:28451 07:13 some of the monsters on this level give me the cold shivers merely by seeing that they're there 07:13 and I'm not referring to the multitude of purple h, although those are obviously also dangerous :P 07:14 yolo 07:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1081 07:17 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed quervo1's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:1184 07:18 now I got blinded, which shows a different set of monsters on the level (telepathy; previously I saw things via burnopathy) 07:18 let's farlook them again :P 07:20 ugh a modron quarton, IIRC my last far-progressed char died to the paralysis spell of such a bastard 07:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48923 07:22 hey what is burnopathy 07:23 means that while burned, your attacks do fire damage to monsters and you see all monsters that have infravision 07:25 fair enough 07:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2981 points, T:1455, killed by a wounded giant bat 07:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:29 feels a bit like raiding a vault in angband, digging only to monsters that I can reasonably handle and leaving the too hard ones surrounded by grave walls :P 07:30 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 07:31 You are frozen solid! You feel a little sick! Your senses fail! You feel paranoid. 07:31 urrrrrrgh 07:31 oh dear 07:31 that cursed unicorn horn made me lose poison resistance, invis and see invis, apparently 07:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:49415 07:36 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1091 points, T:924, killed by a wounded gnome lady, while praying 07:36 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:39 well if u had triple of each of those you'd still be fine 07:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1756 07:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1939 07:49 You hear a horn being played nearby. The bolt of cold hits you! You die... 07:49 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 943 points, T:840, killed by a bolt of cold 07:51 -!- lxlldr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:51 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 07:53 The stroking whip lady wields a % cockatrice corpse {30}! 07:58 LarienTelrunya 2.70 isnt ready for public consumption yet is it? 07:58 K2: sadly not, still some stuff to do and not enough free time lately 07:58 * K2 nods 08:00 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:31604 08:04 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1046 08:07 You finish eating the dull grey ooze corpse. You feel healthy. 08:07 at least I once again got poison res back :) 08:07 -!- k-man has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:17 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:18 -!- k-man has joined #hardfought 08:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:32268 08:21 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 08:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Mal Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:50508 08:29 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmmmmm should I branchport demons to other places, cursed gain level when I come up, or just fight them for fun? 08:34 just avoid them outright if you can 08:34 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 08:35 <@the_eternal_paradox> ah then I'll need to get my hands on as many GL as possible 08:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Lookout, on T:6050 08:35 <@the_eternal_paradox> maybe paralysis/cockatrice blood too 08:36 remember that if you see one of them you'll get a madness 08:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] etai (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 304 points, T:1502, burned by molten lava 08:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6228 08:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:6256 08:41 <@the_eternal_paradox> riiiight 08:41 <@the_eternal_paradox> telepathy/detect monsters doesn't count right 08:41 yeah it doesn't count 08:41 can blind yourself to avoid getting the madness 08:41 but it's not really worth fighting them anyway if you can avoid them 08:42 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:42 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmmm okay 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:6328 08:42 and some of them are especially deadly if you don't know their attacks 08:42 <@the_eternal_paradox> Naome and Belial woke up :P 08:43 they're probs fine 08:43 if you see Pale Night do not engage without engagement ring on or u will probs just die 08:43 not sure if engagement ring works actually 08:43 just don't enter their tower at all and risk it 08:43 <@the_eternal_paradox> yup, I read about her 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:6376 08:44 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmmm I'm just gonna go figure out who's covetous, bribable, and/or stoneable 08:46 I mean feel free to take them all on lol 08:46 microlance does that 08:46 <@the_eternal_paradox> yea see the messages all the time 08:47 blaaaaaah 08:47 someone (spellcaster monster, did I mention that I hate them?) cast intrinsic loss, and I lost tele control 08:48 <@the_eternal_paradox> that hurts 08:49 I had expected you to be dead by poisoning by now? Or do you have some extrinsic protection? 08:49 huh, why? poison instadeaths are 100 times less likely in slex compared to vanilla 08:50 if (playerIsAmy()) enableCheats(); 08:51 100 times less likely? easyhack! 08:51 ha 08:51 if it's so easy, you should go ascend it :D 08:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:34458 08:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:34473 08:52 looks like you have your poison res back anyway 08:53 my prediction is that noone will ascend slex till June, when mobileuser will start a game ironically and go on to ascend it 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:7012 08:53 <@the_eternal_paradox> well there's microlance doing his thing 09:00 -!- lxlldr has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:00 <@based> eternal are you in gehennom now? 09:00 <@based> what demon lords did you get 09:01 <@based> im gonna farm up at least 10 cursed gain levels again before getting in 09:01 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 09:03 <@based> tho i tried testing out the garnet rod on the elder priest of moloch yesterday and well it didnt stop time? i tested it in wizard mode 09:04 <@based> not sure if i didnt do the input right 09:04 <@based> it says to invoke and press “go up” 09:04 <@based> afaik thats the only way ill be able to kill it 09:04 <@based> because i havw 75%+ fail rate on even the most basic spells 09:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) killed Daemon, on T:33334 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:7979 09:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) killed Alrunes, on T:33436 09:07 did you do < when it prompted for a direction? 09:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:34961 09:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:34984 09:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) killed Glasya, on T:33561 09:10 <@the_eternal_paradox> aa yea I haven't fully explored Gehennom though 09:10 <@the_eternal_paradox> I got Juiblex, but I summoned him already 09:10 <@the_eternal_paradox> Then Belial with Fierna, Gazra, and Naome 09:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:35153 09:12 my guess is that Naome's last name is Hampbell and she's a model? :D 09:12 <@the_eternal_paradox> maybe I should go back to DoD to farm GL too 09:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:35201 09:13 <@the_eternal_paradox> pfff 09:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Garland, on T:35234 09:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of slow digestion", on T:49402 09:13 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3455 09:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:35247 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Orb of Fate", on T:8747 09:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of life saving", on T:35398 09:17 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1291 points, T:3671, killed by a fire ant 09:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Nightmare, on T:35713 09:24 <@the_eternal_paradox> where exactly are the Artifact of the Archmagi if they're generated? 09:24 <@the_eternal_paradox> they're not on Rodney right? 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6884 09:26 I think they just spawn in there on the floor, not sure 09:26 can't remember 09:26 <@the_eternal_paradox> phew 09:26 <@the_eternal_paradox> just gonna check for them before going further into Gehennom 09:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:9419 09:29 sup kids. is the luxi speedrun on youtube yet ? 09:29 <@the_eternal_paradox> wait me dumb but from where do Gehennom levels start counting 09:29 <@the_eternal_paradox> like is VotD level 0 or 1? 09:30 no? wake up (i think i'm funny) 09:31 ttyrrec link it up someone thanks love you all 09:33 which one rebatela 09:34 valley usually counts as first floor of gehennom the_eternal_paradox, I don't think dnh changes taht 09:34 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmm all right 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (cockatrices), on T:9551 09:35 the 3.7 world record is uncommentated here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4NofpJAS2Q but I think they have plans to commentate the run in future 09:42 they all cheat. elbererth, helm of oppoasitte alingment etc 09:42 lol is it really cheating 09:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37598 09:45 <{Demo}> it's not cheating, it's winning 09:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:49766 09:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:49767 09:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) performed the invocation, on T:37608 09:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) genocided krakens, on T:49785 09:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:49788 09:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:37774 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:9792 09:58 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 487 points, T:2415, killed by a rabid dog 10:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) entered the Planes, on T:38557 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Grandmaster's Robe", on T:56145 10:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) destroyed Pestilence, on T:38767 10:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) destroyed Death, on T:38809 10:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Father Dagon, on T:56423 10:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Mother Hydra, on T:56429 10:18 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 10:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) wished for "Blessed +5 fixed greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:38823 10:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:36693 10:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 872 points, T:2055, killed by an uninjured Uruk-hai 10:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) wished for "Blessed +5 fixed tiny black dragon scale shield", on T:38869 10:30 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 10:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:13888 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 93340 points, T:14200, choked on a tengu corpse 10:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10792 10:38 since nethack is a solitaire, cheating is defined by the player. hoa is cheating if rebatela uses it to ascend, but not if luxidream does it 10:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non) destroyed Famine, on T:38881 10:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Bin Dwa Fem Non), 7405422 points, T:38900, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo2/dnethack/dumplog/1610202058.dnh.txt 10:43 <{Demo}> ^skeeviest dnh astral planes since like 2017 10:45 gratz on surviving it anyway 10:46 <{Demo}> had to deal with cross map no reflection or resisting no line of sight full armor disintegration attacks 10:46 grats demo 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Arc Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11220 10:46 <{Demo}> some slex tier shit 10:48 no idea how you survived that lol 10:48 hax 10:48 I always found the HOA advantage for neutrals too much. but that changed in 3.6 10:48 lol 10:48 <{Demo}> it was honestly fine until i left the second altar 10:49 but I'm not sure if fixed by helmet is interesting. maybe make it dependent on your alignment value. < 0 chaotic, 0 neutral, and > 0 lawful :-) 10:49 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:37535 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:61116 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:61132 10:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:49969 10:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:49974 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:12418 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:7587 11:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:11812 11:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 124 points, T:52, killed by a bat 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:61277 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Arc Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:13036 11:12 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1745 points, T:1778, killed by a dwarf lord 11:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Brd Clk Fem Law) was given the Singing Sword, on T:4716 11:24 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 11:24 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 30029 points, T:14026, killed by an uninjured red naga 11:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Brd Clk Fem Law), 6991 points, T:4974, killed by an air elemental 11:24 <{Demo}> not even sure how an air elemental spawned 11:24 <{Demo}> seems out of depth 11:24 <{Demo}> for xlvl 7 dlvl 3 11:38 gamemode idea: you start the game with 80 maxhp and maxhp cannot be changed in any way 11:39 isnt that marathon mode? 11:39 different hp value though 11:39 i thought it marathon mode you cannot heal 11:39 i think unnethack and splicehack have it 11:39 talking about maxhp, not actual hp 11:39 oh 11:39 well wtf 11:40 :P 11:40 would make the early game much easier, and the lategame much harder 11:40 that would be a good pretext to refactor hp increasing things into one common function 11:40 currently there are just a bunch of scattered u.uhpmax += foo 11:41 I recommended to antigulp that marathon mode should allow you to configure the amount of your hp pool rather than fixing at 999, this would also benefit from that 11:42 yeah but marathon mode forbids healing entirely, my mode woudlnt 11:42 stennomode 11:42 i don't think anybody in vanilla feels comfortable with 80 maxhp in the endgame, regardless of AC 11:43 maybe Death can still drain maxhp but that'd be about it 11:43 <{Demo}> luxi might lol 11:44 dont think that that would constitute 'comfortable' 11:45 why are we focusing on minturn ascensions 11:45 clearly minmaxhp is the way forward 11:45 looking forward to some baller ascend with like 1 maxhp 11:46 can happen if you get drained by Death 11:46 while standing on the high altar 11:46 let's ban that from the category 11:46 no cheese allowed 11:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58712 11:47 i bet there are 20 maxhp ascnesions on nao 11:48 as in like 999 or whatever? 11:48 amateurhour: isn't 1 maxhp just hell and hell mode in unnethack 11:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:58760 11:48 idk, maybe? 11:48 stenno: maxhp,name: 1) 1,Frown; 11:48 it has been done 11:48 never heard of hell mode 11:49 hoh/hah has the concept of lives though 11:49 well that's certainly not put a smile on my face stenno 11:49 yeah but is that distinguishable from just draining your maxhp down to 1 on the high altar 11:49 so uh what is hell mode 11:49 my lowest is 57 11:49 amateurhour: some shit adeon made 11:50 its actual hilarious but also unwinnable 11:50 so heaven or hell mode means that everyone only has 1 hp 11:50 and you have 3 lives 11:50 hey I got to like vlad and vibrating square in hoh 11:50 then the game crashed 11:50 oh 11:50 i thought simmarine was the best player 11:50 maybe misremembering 11:51 oh yeah the hah one is unwinnable 11:51 hoh I think is winnable 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:61640 11:51 what's the difference? 11:51 it hasn't been done yet 11:51 hah = everyone has 1 hp 11:51 hoh = only you have 1 hp 11:51 er 11:51 the other way around 11:51 heh 11:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:58908 11:53 there is no hoh ascension 11:53 when is porkman when you need him 11:53 he's the kind of player who would pull stuff like that off 11:53 died from slex-related illness 11:53 understandabel 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1031 points, T:494, killed by an uninjured homunculus, while reading a book 11:54 a slexually transmitted infection if you will 12:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Grue, on T:59185 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:755 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:61795 12:05 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 12:06 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 12:07 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 12:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:59565 12:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:41142 12:14 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:15 <@the_eternal_paradox> are all demon lords, princes etc. digestable? 12:16 can't say I've tried 12:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Death, on T:59738 12:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:41708 12:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:59835 12:21 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:21 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmmm let's try it 12:21 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 4363332 points, T:59848, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1610299179.dnh.txt 12:24 gratz malor 12:24 'retired' huh 12:25 <@malor> Now, I'm retired! 12:25 <@malor> 9 in a row. 12:25 sure 12:25 seeya tomorrow for your 10th asc 12:25 :) 12:27 <{Demo}> you should try notdnethack 12:27 <{Demo}> if you're looking for new challenges 12:27 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:29 <@malor> I ascended a Gnome. That's as hard of a challenge as I want 🙂 12:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gnome mummy, on T:14224 12:32 <{Demo}> interesting challenges, not necessary bullshit hard grindy challenges 12:32 <{Demo}> like gnome 12:33 min turn is an interesting challenge i think.. but i would say thta 12:33 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 12:34 <{Demo}> acu role is interesting, ethrealoid is fun, nobody has ascended rebel salamander yet 12:34 <{Demo}> sym is probably kinda broken, the village/adventure branch changes make early game was more diverse 12:34 who has the lowet turns on notdnethack demo 12:34 symbiote is jank af but it's still fun 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5737 12:35 Demo does with a lil over 18k turns 12:35 niec 12:35 <@malor> If I wasn't so burned out on Nethack I would probably do it. But I was really planning to retire before I convinced myself to try to ascend a Gnome as a "final boss" type thing. Either go out in style or die early 🙂 12:36 what is 'rebel salamander'? you've ascended a salamander acu 12:36 <{Demo}> rebel salamander is shared rogue/convict salamander quest/pantheon 12:36 wait if he made the variant how do u know he didnt cheat in the record? 🤔 12:37 because when demo cheats he names items with 'this run is not legit' 12:37 :) 12:37 <@malor> Leaving with the top streak for the next 90 days is pretty sweet 🙂 12:37 haha 12:37 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/798606521042075668/Screen_Shot_2021-01-12_at_12.36.46_PM.png 12:37 nice 12:37 woot nicely done malor 12:38 <{Demo}> im not allowed to cheat in ndnh 12:38 <{Demo}> only dnh and dnhslex 12:38 ah ok 12:38 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:40 <{Demo}> like its one of those conflict of interest situations you just have to avoid 12:45 -!- theRaisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:46 <@malor> Interesting: 1 have ascended 2 gnomes out of 4 attempts making Gnome actually my most successful race 🙂 12:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1818 points, T:1685, killed by an arrow 12:48 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 12:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14983 12:49 -!- AlbertB has quit [Client Quit] 12:53 I <3 gnomes 12:54 gnomes <3 you 12:54 i like turtles 12:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:43752 12:54 classic 12:54 i love lamp 12:54 modern classic 12:54 i think i legit haven't played gnome in years 13:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Dagon, on T:44061 13:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:44071 13:01 gnomes are my second most common ascension after humans. Orcs and elves got no love from me. 13:02 i like turtles too. i even wrote a book about them 13:03 i used to not rate orc 13:03 honuraxxa 13:03 but i quite like orc ranger now 13:03 that's me 13:03 thanks to lux 13:03 orc wizards are great 13:03 yea orc wiz also cool 13:03 my first ever orc wiz ascension was only recently in fact 13:04 i enjoyed it 13:04 they don't seem to be that well loved. i got the first orc wizard ascension in several variants 13:04 people think 20 int matters for wiz 13:05 orc wiz better strength and early game survivability 13:05 nope. helm of brilliance, done 13:05 plus pr 13:05 what nots not to like 13:05 hothraxxa: i didnt even use that tbh 13:05 i could cast magic mapping with my natural int 13:05 and thats the most high level spell i care about 13:06 i guess some people like having FoD 13:06 i rarely use that 13:06 i find orcus's wand is usually enough 13:06 hothraxxa: which, magic mapping spell, or FoD? 13:06 fod 13:06 yea me neither 13:07 <@luxidream> you don't need genius brain to cast fod 13:07 <@luxidream> 16 int is enough 13:07 ah ok 13:07 fair 13:07 for me it has nothing to do with int, has to do with power drain 13:07 <@luxidream> orcs have really bad pw that's right 13:08 how bad compared to elf typically 13:08 <@luxidream> 20 int only really helps when you're trying to force out spells you have no skill in though 13:08 ahhh i see 13:08 even if i build pw up with potions and confused chraging, still too much drain to make it useful 13:08 like when you dont have a low level spell to train 13:09 and try to train divinition casting ID 13:09 <@the_eternal_paradox> grrr I give up I'm dumping the demons in Mines' End 13:09 <@luxidream> I want to say around 100 pw 13:09 <@luxidream> endgame 13:09 thats not much 13:09 <@luxidream> depends on your starting wis of course 13:09 i think some of my elf wiz runs had like >200 13:10 which one you fighting the_eternal_paradox? 13:10 <@the_eternal_paradox> Naome 13:10 <@luxidream> i remember being annoyed at only having 80 pw during tnnt 13:10 <@luxidream> and having to teleport a lot 13:10 <@the_eternal_paradox> I got a trapper but he got slimed so I didn't have a chance to see if demons are digestable 13:13 -!- infinigon has joined #hardfought 13:14 my orc wiz ascended with 153 maxpw 13:14 <{Demo}> dnh makes me wanna never play vanilla again cause it is just so much better 13:14 thats only one example tho 13:15 <@luxidream> i have many orc wizards 13:15 <@luxidream> lets look 13:15 yes please tell me your stats 13:16 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45036 13:16 i only glanced at a couple of my elves so far... one had 167 one 171 13:16 not too crazy like 200 but if you eat wraith to xl18 or so you might get there 13:18 hm. wizard is the only role i always try to advance to xl30 13:18 huh 13:18 why? 13:18 magic missile 13:18 just hit them with your bashy stick 13:18 <@luxidream> a lot of these games I have 200+ power due to wraith luring with eota probably 13:18 ah 13:19 <@luxidream> apparently I really like being level 20 13:19 20 is my goal for almost any other role 13:19 <@luxidream> 15 is the only important breakpoint though 13:19 <@luxidream> that's when fod becomes easier to cast 13:19 ugh i rage quite a game earlier because polyself and levdrain was fucking with my xl 13:19 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:20 <@luxidream> hothraxxa: same but for priest 13:20 tried to revgeno some wraith at quest just after turn 2000 13:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:20 didnt get enough from my scrolls 13:20 then tried to gamble on deliberate polyself to elf 13:20 <@luxidream> they can't get many spell schools so level is the only way to improve spellcasting ability 13:20 which took mem to xl7 after two tries 13:20 never gamble on the polyself thing it always goes wrong >.< 13:21 yeah i find priests frustrating beacuse that and no edged weapons 13:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 2936067 points, T:50037, ascended 13:21 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1609411664.evil.html 13:21 gratz mobileuser!! 13:21 gg mobileuser 13:21 <@luxidream> gg 13:22 thanks :-) 13:22 i basically spent all of the turns between 2000 and 3000 stuck at Home 1 but unable to get enough xl 13:22 it was very frustrating :c 13:24 <@luxidream> stop splatting :v 13:24 i didnt splat i quit 13:24 thats different 13:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Glasya, on T:45704 13:25 <@luxidream> same result 13:25 or um i mean yes lux sorry lux will have the ascension on ur desk first thin tomorrow 13:25 <@luxidream> that's the spirit >:D 13:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) killed Belial, on T:53239 13:26 <@the_eternal_paradox> PHEW 13:26 i heard there were turtles found by darwin but the crew ate them all before they could be properly classified because they were so tasty 13:26 <@the_eternal_paradox> thank goodness for conflict! 13:26 <@the_eternal_paradox> unfortunately, Fierna and Gazra are now awake 13:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ran Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1210 13:27 congrats mobileuser 13:27 \o/ 13:28 thx K2! 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 20055 points, T:12207, poisoned by a killer bee 13:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed Daemon, on T:46080 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 27721 points, T:3245, quit 13:31 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 13:34 <@the_eternal_paradox> ugh how should I fight Fierna?? 13:35 <@malor> Avoid 13:35 <@the_eternal_paradox> petrify her? 13:36 <@the_eternal_paradox> yup I petrified her 13:36 <@the_eternal_paradox> "a statue of Fierna" 13:36 haha that's the strategy for all the demons malor 13:36 > avoid 13:37 <@malor> DNethack is pretty bad about announcing kills that aren’t “melee” to this channel. Good job 13:37 <@malor> Yep that is my strategy amateurhour 🙂 13:38 it's a good one 13:38 madnesses are mad 13:38 <@riker> fierna is fine? she's not that bad 13:39 <@riker> I do'nt think she has any thing particularly lethal? 13:39 yeah 13:39 <@the_eternal_paradox> she steals stuff super fast 13:39 <@riker> ah 13:39 <@riker> engagement? 13:39 <@the_eternal_paradox> luckily she didn't steal anything from me before I stoned her 13:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:46527 13:40 <@the_eternal_paradox> idk if engagement ring works on them 13:40 <@the_eternal_paradox> I didn't have one anyway 13:40 <@riker> why do you not have engagement 13:41 <@riker> that's a recipe for disaster i feel 13:41 you can get away with not having it if you're a sneaky fox 13:41 <@malor> I always make sure to find engagement before trying to ascend It isn’t really necessary in most games. But the games that is good it saves your whole game by itself! 13:41 <@the_eternal_paradox> well Gazra was fast 13:41 <@the_eternal_paradox> two missiles and poof gone 13:43 <@the_eternal_paradox> I uh um hmmmm 13:43 <@the_eternal_paradox> let me check who else seduces and hope the RNG didn't pick them 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 128 points, T:475, killed by a nearly deceased fox 13:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:46735 13:44 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmm what monster do I wanna genocide? I sat on their throne 13:45 shoggoth maybe? 13:46 gug? jubjub bird? 13:46 <@riker> gug is a good choice. thievery is rude 13:47 <@malor> Shoggoth and gug are on my always genocide list along with nightgaunt 13:48 <@malor> Just those 3 and “L”. Also Black Dragon if I don’t already have distintegration resistance 13:48 <@riker> aoa can be mean too 13:48 <@the_eternal_paradox> uh oops well I have no experience in the game ._. 13:48 <@the_eternal_paradox> no aoa is food 13:48 <@riker> not a problem for you, probably? but htey have intrinsic reflection 13:48 <@riker> ahh inc okay 13:49 <@riker> byakhee might be more helpful to genocide if you have FoD for hte rest, since they can stun you and throw off your aim 13:49 <@malor> Aoa don’t kill you in any way so they don’t bother me 🙂 13:50 <@malor> Avoid dying. I think that sums up my approach to the game 🙂 13:50 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmm ahhh ummm I didn't genocide them because I'm still dumb about this game ._. 13:50 <@the_eternal_paradox> just green slimes 13:50 <@malor> Although dying into a Death Knight transformation does sound pretty fun 🙂 13:51 hey no worries about genoing green slimes, you haven't missed out on that much 13:51 plenty of opportunity to geno other stuff later 13:52 and green slimes are still scary 13:52 <@malor> If you can handle Belial and other “Lords” you don’t have much to worry about 🙂 13:52 yeah 13:52 <@malor> Although I will say again - Avoid 13:52 Aren't green slime corpses acidic, and therefore potentially useful to cure stoning? 13:52 <@the_eternal_paradox> I must get Orcus' wand 13:52 i dont think ive ever geno'd slimes or been slimed 13:52 I started genoing jubjub birds as well malor because idk if free action helps with their scream 13:53 talking vanilla tho tbf 13:53 maybe theyre worse in dnh 13:53 Everything's worse in dnh. 13:53 Well, "worse" in the sense of "more powerful". 13:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 6 points, T:107, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 13:53 well duh :P 13:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) destroyed Orcus, on T:53691 13:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ran Inc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:5253 13:54 <@the_eternal_paradox> WOO 13:54 nice 13:54 <@the_eternal_paradox> annnd it weighs like a ton because it's a huge wand 13:55 <@malor> it doesn't Jubjub birds are really bad. Geno'ing them is probably smart. I just haven't because by the time you meet JubJub's you are powerful enough to go around them easily enough. 13:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 65 points, T:402, killed by an arrow 13:56 <@malor> Orcus is actually the easist "Lord". 13:56 <@malor> Even I sometimes fight Orcus since he sits on his stairs 🙂 14:01 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ran Inc Fem Cha) was given Plague, on T:6238 14:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:48545 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2289 14:06 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 14:06 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ran Inc Fem Cha) was given Giantslayer, on T:6962 14:10 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:2851 14:13 <@the_eternal_paradox> I have too much stuff in my bag help 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 445 points, T:897, killed by a wounded homunculus, while sleeping 14:15 throw out all your gems and drink all your potions, or use up your holy water to bless shit 14:15 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 662 points, T:870, taken down by a dwarf king 14:17 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmm I think I'll eat all the useless scrolls 14:18 <@malor> you even have the artifact bag of holding, right? 14:18 <@the_eternal_paradox> yup :P 14:19 <@malor> that thing is one of my favorite things. Only had it once, on a Chiropteran 🙂 I carried everything I ever found without ever creating a stash anywhere 🙂 14:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:48990 14:20 <@the_eternal_paradox> well I'm a really bad pack-rat then 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 15017 points, T:7733, killed by a wounded air elemental 14:20 <@the_eternal_paradox> although it's probably cuz of all the fooood in the dungeon 14:20 <@malor> you don't have the carrying capacity of a Chiropteran 🙂 They have double capacity 🙂 14:20 <@malor> also your food is super heavy unlike a normal eater. 14:20 <@the_eternal_paradox> true, but there is so much more of it 14:20 <@the_eternal_paradox> Arcadia had soo much enchanted stuff 14:20 <@the_eternal_paradox> not but, I meant and 14:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the high priest of the deep blue sea, on T:49054 14:21 <@malor> you are REALLY close to the end. Give yourself 15,000 total food points and dump the rest. That will be MORE than enough to ascend from where you are. 14:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:49097 14:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4418 14:21 <@malor> 15k food is probably way more than you need, but I *never8 take chances with food 🙂 14:22 <@the_eternal_paradox> um hmmm I don't know 14:22 <@the_eternal_paradox> I play things the slowest ever 14:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Lugribossk of Ilsensine, on T:49119 14:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed Death, on T:49122 14:22 <@the_eternal_paradox> I think I'll just keep porting around till it's time to kill Rodney, and then stuff and run 14:22 <@the_eternal_paradox> buuut I still gotta farm up more gain levels :P 14:23 <@malor> how many do you have? 14:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4611 14:23 <@malor> also do you "poly pile"? If so that will net you more probably. 14:23 <@the_eternal_paradox> only 2 14:23 <@malor> oh, wow. Yeah, you need more. 14:23 <@the_eternal_paradox> never was able to grab the rest because the monsters keep drinking them 14:23 <@the_eternal_paradox> I have way too much healing I can poly them 14:24 did you find out which big demon you got out of demogorgon, lamashtu, and dagon? 14:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4692 14:24 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:25 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1532 14:25 <@the_eternal_paradox> nooo 14:25 <@the_eternal_paradox> still too scared to check 14:25 if you saw water you couldn't cross it's dagon, the other two have a scary message that appears when you enter the level 14:26 <@the_eternal_paradox> uh-oh 14:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:49198 14:26 <@the_eternal_paradox> taking my Houchou out if it's scary 14:26 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 1045 points, T:1856, offed by a giant beetle 14:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Ana Dwa Fem Cha), 11004696 points, T:49231, ascended, having saved the future 14:27 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1610388818.dnh.txt 14:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5475 points, T:4883, killed by an uninjured giant spider 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1385 14:29 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmmm do I need a light source for the rest of the game you think? 14:29 <@the_eternal_paradox> otherwise I'm going to use my last artiwish with my magic lamp 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 959 points, T:1782, killed by an uninjured rock piercer 14:31 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:14, killed by an uninjured water demon 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Adept, on T:4864 14:32 gatz microlance! 14:32 gratz rather 14:33 woop 14:33 ty 14:33 its always nice to have a magic lamp all game long as a light source 14:35 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmm okay 14:37 <@the_eternal_paradox> hey wait how do I move the creature in the ice outta the way?? 14:37 <@malor> You used to be able to teleport it. But now you either avoid it or kill it. Which summons a tough boss 14:37 <@the_eternal_paradox> dangit 14:38 <@malor> Nice job microlance. That might be the record for most insane ascension 🙂 14:38 <@the_eternal_paradox> wait what if I tele down a level and come upstairs 14:38 <@malor> That works 14:38 <@malor> Remember: avoid 🙂 14:38 <@the_eternal_paradox> aargh he's still on the stairs 14:39 <@the_eternal_paradox> whatever when I come up I can just gain level outta there 14:39 <@malor> Yeah but you can go up and down without worrying about it 14:40 <@malor> A couple games ago I had enough cursed gain level to do the entire dungeon including a few mysterious force. That was nice :) Most of the time I have 10 to 15. I wouldn’t try without at least 6 but I am a big time coward 🙂 14:42 <@the_eternal_paradox> HOLY HEK IT'S DEMOGORGON 14:42 okay don't panic 14:42 <@malor> Avoid 14:42 <@the_eternal_paradox> Houchou time? or just sneak past him? 14:42 would still recommend sneaking past 14:43 i only had him ever once (vanilla tho - not those crazy variants where he's guaranteed) 14:43 <@malor> Pull up his map on the wiki You can walk his level to the stairs without encountering him 14:43 <@the_eternal_paradox> I've never seen him anywhere 14:43 <@malor> You won’t beat him if you fight him. 14:43 they're so incredibly nasty in dnh, don't risk it 14:43 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 14:44 <@the_eternal_paradox> I am not gonna go anywhere near that guy 14:44 by some mircale i managed to escape the level i'd had vanilla demogorgon summoned on 14:44 came back with c corpse lol 14:44 idk how it is in dnh but you cant simply c-corpse evil demogorgon 14:44 <@malor> Dnh demo is stone proof 14:44 ah 14:44 F 14:45 <@malor> And super op 14:45 i found the vanilla one scary enough already lol 14:46 barely made it out alive 14:46 <@the_eternal_paradox> he won't go anywhere near me unless he wakes right? 14:46 <@malor> Right 14:46 <@the_eternal_paradox> there are no squeaky boards in his palace right? 14:47 <@malor> No. Just walk the left side of the mini rooms 14:48 <@the_eternal_paradox> OH I didn't realize you have to go through his palace 14:48 <@the_eternal_paradox> ok this is probably scarier than Cthulu 14:48 Disease-causing claws 3d12, armor-shredding rend, Life-draining gaze, Paralysis gaze, Theft gaze, 2x spellcasting, very fast (speed 24) 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:64348 14:49 oh the_eternal_paradox be careful in the castle 14:49 the monsters there are really scary 14:49 it's not just demo you gotta watch out for 14:49 <@based> eternal why not just cursed tele scroll past demo? 14:50 <@based> should be able to specify the floor below his with the cursed scroll and tele contorl 14:50 <@based> thats gonna be my strat in a few hours 14:50 <@the_eternal_paradox> well yeah but uh 14:50 <@the_eternal_paradox> actually good question 14:50 <@the_eternal_paradox> excuse me a moment 14:50 <@based> gonna curse tele past all the demon lords and then quaff 25 cursed gain levels to skip half the game 14:50 <@based> #content 14:51 <@based> btw is dnh planes and astral planes have any major differences? 14:51 <@the_eternal_paradox> ok I guess I was just scared out of my wits 14:51 <@the_eternal_paradox> oops 14:51 <@riker> stock elemental planes minus some new enemies if you count that 14:52 <@riker> just a tulani and some noviere on water, a mahadeva (avoid at all costs, has a "hit until it misses" melee attack) on earth, air has some hunting horrors, fire has a surya deva 14:53 <@riker> +whatever they normally have in vanilla and other minor appropriate enemies. astral got turbobuffed riders, player monsters have more available artifacts, and some angels are more lethal but tha'ts mostly it 14:53 <{Demo}> air has giant eagle 14:54 <@riker> they're basically archons arne't they. with hte stunning gaze 14:54 <{Demo}> no casting 14:54 <@the_eternal_paradox> phew Asmodeus is on the downstairs 14:54 <@the_eternal_paradox> I have pleeenty of gold 14:55 <@the_eternal_paradox> the pit fiends though 14:57 <@malor> @based there are more Angels on water and fire than vanilla. A lot more. So just sprint to the portal so you don’t get overwhelmed by their summoning. Otherwise same as vanilla basically. 14:59 <@malor> The astral plane - pestilence and famine have ranged attacks that do a lot of damage and proc their effect. So be careful when you are in line of site but not melee with them. Death hits hard but has no range so he is easy 15:02 <@riker> water isn't htat bad? 15:02 <@riker> oh, water uses 3.6 water rules i think. or it does 3D water at least 15:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3431 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:64589 15:04 <@the_eternal_paradox> PHEW 15:04 <{Demo}> 3.6 uses dnh water rules 15:04 <@the_eternal_paradox> gave all my 57998 gold to Asmodeus 15:04 <@riker> bruh 15:04 the_eternal_paradox: wasn't that already Asmodeus's gold, from his treasury? 15:05 lol 15:05 <@the_eternal_paradox> no, that's all the gold I've collected before 15:05 ah, okay. 15:05 in 4/5 games you don't need to interact with asmo in any way 15:05 <@the_eternal_paradox> well luckily this game I did, so I didn't have to fight anybody else and bribed him into thin air 15:06 is the stairs he's on actually the real downstairs? 15:06 <@the_eternal_paradox> yes, I cast clairvoyance and it was there 15:06 ah but 15:06 there's fake stairs 15:06 <@the_eternal_paradox> wait what 15:06 try going down them 15:06 <@the_eternal_paradox> noooooo 15:07 <@the_eternal_paradox> ugh finee I'll check out the other ones 15:07 <@the_eternal_paradox> who are the actual bosses? 15:08 <@the_eternal_paradox> there are a lotta named demons so I can't tell 15:08 <@the_eternal_paradox> I bet Daemon is one, but anyone else? 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:9504 15:09 <@riker> daemon is one, glasya is the other 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:9554 15:09 <@riker> daemon just hits hard and glasya has a whip + some acid & shock dmg 15:09 <@riker> my lethality is daemon == glasya == mixed room < the room with 9 pit fiends 15:10 the room with all the named demons is nuts 15:10 ambassadors of whatever 15:11 <@the_eternal_paradox> ohh uh well they just opened their darn door 15:11 <@based> me and @lilith are testing the dnh sanctum of moloch to test the garnet rod but we didnt realize you have to be wielding the rod to time stop 15:12 <@based> so the elder priest summoned a million enemeis 15:12 <@the_eternal_paradox> oof yeah you must wield it 15:12 <@based> and the sanctum is pretty messed up right now 15:12 <@the_eternal_paradox> if you don't it says "you feel you should be wielding it" 15:12 <@based> yeah at least this was in wizard mode 15:13 <@riker> multiplayer dnh when 15:13 doesn't it have a message when you try invoke when not wielding it? 15:13 oh I am slow 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:8449 15:16 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 8816 points, T:8594, killed by a wounded invisible stalker 15:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:56166 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:49234 15:28 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:29 <@the_eternal_paradox> aaa I want one more artifact but my only wishing source is my last magic lamp 15:29 <@the_eternal_paradox> and I don't wanna spend the rest of the game in the dark 15:29 <@riker> what arti? 15:29 <@the_eternal_paradox> the shirt 15:29 <@riker> do you really need the carrycap 15:30 <@the_eternal_paradox> I just want the AC/DR 15:30 <@riker> what're you at rn? 15:30 <@the_eternal_paradox> -26, 14 15:30 <@riker> also,seriously? you gave asmo all your cash rather than divine prot? smh 15:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:30 <@the_eternal_paradox> I've never done divine protection :P 15:30 <@riker> yeah that's plenty. just try to ward any demon lords off, and havre healing spells 15:30 <@the_eternal_paradox> although I do have the spell of protection 15:30 <@riker> you don't need more htan 14 DR or so 15:31 <@the_eternal_paradox> which I get to -40 AC which is noice 15:31 <@riker> note that -26, 14 is roughly where -40 or so was pre-AC/DR split 15:31 <@the_eternal_paradox> oh wow okay 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (electric eels), on T:3659 15:31 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 15:31 <@the_eternal_paradox> also is 8 cursed gl enough? I couldn't really scrounge up any more 15:32 <@riker> sure? why do you want it 15:32 <@riker> how many demon lairs did you leave? 15:32 <@riker> cursed GL makes it faster sure but like, it's only really needed if you have like angry baalphegor alive on a level or something like that 15:32 <@the_eternal_paradox> well Juiblex is summoned, Belial and co are gone 15:32 <@riker> if i have some i tend to use it on any bosses i skipped obviously but i don't bother half the itme 15:32 <@the_eternal_paradox> Orcus is dead 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1650 15:33 <@riker> that's 3 left? 15:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> uh Demogorgon is obviously alive 15:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> creature in the ice hasn't moved 15:33 <@riker> demo is fine, cursed GL to skip phasing, that works 15:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> and I am forgetting someone 15:33 <@riker> how'd you skip creature in the ice? :/ 15:33 <@riker> cursed tele down, i assume? 15:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> yup 15:33 <@riker> man that needs to be less optional lmao 15:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> o.o 15:34 <@based> dnh gehennom stuff seems like it was designed to be optional for most people 15:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Val Swn Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Helm of Undeath", on T:2141 15:34 <@based> unless youre a god gamer 15:34 <@the_eternal_paradox> yeah cuz it seems most of the dangerous guys are pretty optional 15:34 <@riker> a lot of them, yeah 15:35 <@riker> but you also have to be careful with some 15:35 <@riker> also, many people playing dnh in the beginning 100% the rest of the dungeon before doing hell 15:35 <@riker> so y'all are rolling up with like S tier DPS, gear, etc. and are pretty tanky 15:36 plus being stacked with supplies to do everything 15:36 <@riker> but like, you only need 3 keys - fastest route i know of is axus + arsenal + chaos2 key 15:36 if you play chaotic you can just name a key 15:36 <@riker> so hell is a lot more interesting when you have to fight dagon with -10/8 ac/dr 15:36 <@riker> yeah, but tha'ts not consistent obv 15:37 <@based> i had 17 cursed gain levels before my bag blew up but im at -37 ac 19 DR thanks to mithradir 15:37 <@riker> in that case go for axus + cha 1/2 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:64752 15:37 <@riker> like yeah okay you better ascend with that lol 15:37 <@based> i just hope i dont choke in the sanctum 15:37 <@riker> when i first started ascending i would kill illurien for her book regularly 15:37 <@riker> but i've done that like once in 6 months. bc why would? if i need it for something i will but i don't care about the winmore value 15:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4574 15:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:7276 15:38 <@riker> ./shrug tl;dr; go run suboptimal and underoptimized meme builds and see where that takes you 15:38 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmm okay 15:39 <@the_eternal_paradox> also should I read all my remaining syllables now or wait till Astral or something 15:39 <@based> well i wanna do at least one dnh super juiced ascension 15:39 <@the_eternal_paradox> based saying Mithardir reminded me 15:39 <@based> then ill try out binder 15:39 <@riker> do you plan on using htem 15:39 I read them all during the quest lol, I'm not patient and the perm buffs are neato 15:39 <@the_eternal_paradox> I mean the permanent bonuses are really nice 15:39 <@riker> correction: do you plan on using them for their temp bonuses 15:39 <@the_eternal_paradox> I don't know if I'm strong enough not to 15:40 <@riker> i'd save speed + hp regen + eregen if you want to speedrun astral. but honestly, you don't need them 15:40 <@the_eternal_paradox> I can kill basically everything with less than 5 magic missiles 15:40 <@riker> do you have blizzard? 15:40 <@the_eternal_paradox> yup 15:40 <@riker> use that instead of MM 15:40 <@the_eternal_paradox> humm okay 15:40 <@riker> firestorm on astral 15:41 <@riker> most demons have cold vulnerability (if it resists fire but not cold, takes 1.5 cold dmg, or vice versa) and its targetable from range and around corners 15:41 <@riker> EP goes down in one blizzard, then run away fast 15:41 <@the_eternal_paradox> I mean honestly all the syllables' temporary bonuses are really good 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1189 15:41 <@the_eternal_paradox> mmaybe I'll just read all my aesh right now actually 15:41 <@riker> ./shrug i might save speed & a hp regen one or smth 15:41 <@riker> note that you can polypile them 15:42 <@riker> into other syllables 15:42 <@the_eternal_paradox> mehh 15:42 <@riker> when i'm lazy i'll just polypile them all into DR 15:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5117 15:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:5121 15:43 its my opinion that dnh should be ascended with all the demonlords dead and you having all the insanitys! 15:43 <@the_eternal_paradox> easy for you to say 15:43 in 3.20, i think demo, lamasthu and asmo are optional 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1328 points, T:2944, killed by a killer bee 15:44 <@riker> they've always been optional 15:44 in my school of thought 15:45 my orc wizard seem to be gaining str and con slower then normal :( 15:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:5544 15:46 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:47 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5588 15:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56955 15:49 <@the_eternal_paradox> phew 15:50 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5138 points, T:5673, killed by an uninjured giant mimic 15:53 !booze 15:53 * Beholder tosses nabru a tumbler of the hooch, fermented by demogorgon at 282 Kelvin. 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1382 points, T:29, quit 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3455 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3771 16:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4467 16:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:08 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:09 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 16:12 Umbire *sweetheart bundle* 😍 :) 16:12 I take it you liked it? 16:12 Umbire: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2021-01-12 05:13 EST: omg the page is great ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thanks a lot for making it! minor nitpick though, the channel is spelled #em.slashem.me :D you might want to correct that so that people don't end up in an empty misspelled channel 16:12 you can never have enough fleecy bundles, or high-heeled shoes for that matter ;) 16:13 Sure, sure, gonna be a while before I can actually get to continuing on it. 16:13 In the spirit of things, I've also decided I'll actually give SLEX a go sometime this week 16:13 yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! 16:13 Fairness and all. 16:14 (Unfairness?) 16:14 oh I am so sorry Umbire 16:14 I'd say "play the kurwa challenge" but then your review will probably be something along the lines of Mandevil, who said "it felt as if the program was malfunctioning" :D 16:14 Pf. 16:15 in case you do decide to want to try it, add this to your rcfile: OPTIONS=role:Kur,race:Trp,hybridironman,hybridwindinhabitant,gender:Fem,align:Law 16:15 :D (amateurhour you're of course welcome to try it too if you like to torture yourself) 16:15 that 16:15 sounds so awful 16:16 lol :P 16:16 heh, still a lot more playable than the goff challenge, where you have a character with two conflicting dietary restrictions that combine to make it impossible to eat! 16:17 that wouldn't be so bad if you could just pray for food consistently, but your align gets shafted so often 16:17 someone behind a wall in a maze will start chanting like turkish(?) or something and bam, no prayer for you 16:19 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 16:21 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 16:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:22 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2012 16:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:57080 16:23 <@the_eternal_paradox> aaaaaaaa 16:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ran Inc Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:18136 16:24 gl the_eternal_paradox 16:24 you got this 16:25 <@the_eternal_paradox> just panic-checking everything one last time 16:25 <@the_eternal_paradox> wait I can throw away some of my oil lamps 16:25 <@the_eternal_paradox> the lighter the better 16:25 isn't kurwa just polnish for shit 16:27 <@the_eternal_paradox> I was thinking that lmao 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 17817 points, T:1710, killed by a large mimic 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5384 16:27 or at least a swear word 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5351 points, T:46, quit 16:28 <@the_eternal_paradox> pretty sure it's f 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Pri Dwa Fem Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:65548 16:30 I feel like that's on purpose. 16:31 * amateurhour gasps 16:31 But anyway, good luck. 16:32 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 16:32 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 16:34 stenno: it means prostitute 16:35 the kurwa role can simply chat to any humanoid monster to have sex, which makes it pretty easy to get rid of cursed armor ;) 16:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) was given Magicbane, on T:11166 16:38 oh ok 16:38 oh thats useful 16:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 7576 points, T:8766, killed by an uninjured watchman 16:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ran Inc Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:18763 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2505 16:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] mobileuser (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2613 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] hilliance (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Grouchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:15086 16:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Val Swn Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6762 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3182 points, T:6655, killed by a heavily wounded plains centaur 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 15779 points, T:1572, killed by a bat 16:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:12478 16:51 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] hilliance (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:15443 17:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:13759 17:01 -!- lxlldr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Val Swn Fem Neu) averted death by becoming a death knight, on T:7416 17:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) was given Hammerfeet, on T:14226 17:17 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 17:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Ran Inc Fem Cha) anointed by Diana, on T:19805 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 copper darts on an altar, on T:7169 17:35 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 532 points, T:1404, killed by a magic missile 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:12493 17:40 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 17:40 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 5333 points, T:7899, killed by a dwarf king 17:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Val Swn Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:9536 17:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) became the Glory of Chardros, on T:17151 17:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:17151 17:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3532 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:00 !who 18:00 K2: [hdf-us] Luxidream [nh370] brandon [nh370] ZlojSerge [nh4] | [hdf-eu] doomcircle [evil] AlbertB [nh370] Glord [nh370] microlance [dnh] | [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] 18:03 <@the_eternal_paradox> wait I can't cast firestorm/blizzard if I'm blind right 18:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 5421 points, T:4519, killed by a quasit 18:05 ^^ Now a double-bones. Never met the ghost. 18:05 <@riker> no, you need to be able to see the target location eterna 18:05 <@riker> arahael: could be a triple! somebody else killed the ghots and died somewhere else? 18:06 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 18:07 <@the_eternal_paradox> oh no how am I gonna kill the elder priest :( 18:07 <@the_eternal_paradox> I haven't found another free action yet 18:08 <@the_eternal_paradox> he doesn't have free action right? can I do a "right back atcha" and throw a paralysis potion at him? 18:08 I think you can still just wait for the wizard to appear 18:08 and he'll go fight the priest 18:09 <@the_eternal_paradox> mmmm okayy 18:10 <@the_eternal_paradox> I play more 3.6 so I expected to go get it myself :P 18:11 <@riker> wdym you haven't found another free actoin? 18:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:57224 18:14 <@malor> Nice 18:17 <@malor> Get out of there fast He will Rez in a random number of turns 18:18 <@malor> I use a gain level after verifying my inventory and picking up the amulet 18:18 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1134 18:20 <@the_eternal_paradox> actually Rodney did but ok then 18:21 <@malor> Both work I always kill her myself because I don’t like the random wait for the Wizard. Waiting = risk 🙂 18:23 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:33 -!- lxlldr has quit [Quit: Quit] 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Arc Hum Fem Law), 463 points, T:625, killed by an arrow 18:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1430 points, T:2018, killed by a wounded gnome, while fainted from lack of food 18:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19113 18:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] priyavt (Kni Hum Mal Law), 314 points, T:2097, killed by a wounded iguana, while fainted from lack of food 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:3, zapped herself with a wand 18:42 -!- lxlldr has joined #hardfought 18:44 -!- lxlldr has quit [Client Quit] 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5163 points, T:2944, killed by a wounded gnome 18:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:30193 18:50 riker: Nice. :) Yeah, a red dragon is pretty tough. 18:52 -!- stenno3 has joined #hardfought 18:54 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 18:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased ring of free action", on T:20015 18:59 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 aegis", on T:20018 19:01 . 19:01 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:04 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 19:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:08 <@the_eternal_paradox> if I can't finish my game today I will probably lose a lot of sleep ._. 19:10 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1464 19:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1496 19:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:20675 19:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 atma weapon", on T:22419 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1028 points, T:2640, killed by a rabid dog 19:23 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:58608 19:30 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 19:30 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2429 points, T:3455, killed by a gnome lady 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 318 points, T:1211, killed by an uninjured kitten 19:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> wait what wow 19:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> my game crashed and got restored to the point where I first entered the Planes 19:33 !lastgame Luxidream 19:33 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1610494932.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 19:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> wow this is what traveling back in time feels like 19:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> now I know where the portal isn't 19:33 dnh? 19:33 <@the_eternal_paradox> yea 19:34 <@the_eternal_paradox> is this cheating?? 19:34 I'm no dnh expert, but I think I've heard of such a thing happening in that variant before. 19:35 not cheating. Game crashed and you got loaded to your last checkpoint (if it has that feature) 19:35 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmm okay, still weird 19:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Set, on T:34396 19:35 my conundrum is that TIL you can't cast expert fireball on yourself if you're blind. "Your mind fails to lock onto that location!" 19:36 which sucks because I'm in the archon phase of my run and need to remain blind, but they often summon green slimes 19:38 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:39 !tell aoei hit me up w sum sweet speedrunning tips, i wanna try it out! :) 19:39 I'm on it, tommo. 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] squarelles (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2519 19:40 oki 19:40 aoei: Message from tommo at 2021-01-12 19:39 EST: hit me up w sum sweet speedrunning tips, i wanna try it out! :) 19:40 <@the_eternal_paradox> I'm scared I have no method of portal detection other than detect unseen 19:40 i will teach you what i know 19:40 :D 19:41 but i am also quite noob still 19:41 <@luxidream> what kind of speedrunning 19:41 well depending 19:41 yea that exactly what lux asked 19:41 lol 19:41 <@luxidream> also how many times did I get stuck on a menu in that stream aoei 19:41 haha do u mean low turncount vs low realtime? 19:41 idk lux i was mainly paying attention to sound sorry 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 392 points, T:1212, killed by an ogre lady 19:41 <@luxidream> oh yea you were playing lol 19:42 <@luxidream> I'll ask amateurhour 😉 19:42 yea lol. fair. 19:42 <@luxidream> tommo: yes 19:42 they both sound like a fun challenge! 19:42 its a cute idea but ultimately not very exciting when the player spends so long on dl1 lmao 19:42 today im thinking more about realtime 19:42 the commentary and the weird computer voice was great tho 19:42 <{Demo}> game crashed? 19:43 <{Demo}> k2 is there a coredump? 19:43 tommo: well lux is obvs the champion there.. i only started doing it recently a bit, i find it very fun tho 19:43 <@luxidream> yea it's because I'm bad 19:43 <@luxidream> I should have tried it more before streaming 19:43 @the_eternal_paradox: FWIW, "manual" exploration for the portals makes for good theatre. Very dramatic! 19:43 tommo: i also got most of my realtime tips from luxi haha 19:43 aoei: yes, but u have perspective on wat advice most helps the aspiring noob :) 19:43 perhaps so :o 19:44 <@luxidream> tommo: Play valkyrie: go dungeon -> mt -> soko -> castle -> quest -> win 19:44 i also have a bad habit of leaving the game idle for half an hour at random times 19:44 yeah valk is nice to do, my current game is not super fast 19:44 skip mines end? 19:44 but i beat castle without tonal and AC:-7 somehow 19:44 so i was pleased 19:44 <@luxidream> oof is luckstone 19:44 i did get three early wishes tho haha 19:44 valk ofc is wat i have the most experience in 19:44 right right 19:44 one lamp, and then two wishes from the same throne later in main dungeon 19:45 <@based> @the_eternal_paradox how on earth did your wizard of yendor oneshot the elder priest of moloch 19:45 <@based> what in gods name 19:45 lamp: GDSM, the two throne wishes BoH and [oR 19:45 i skipped soko 19:45 soko is annoying 19:45 <@based> literally one shot the priest, and then teleported to you with a free amulet of yendor 19:45 <@luxidream> the fastest runs skip soko but I would do it if you could 19:45 <@luxidream> it's very easy as a valk, since you have stealth 19:45 ill defs start with it 19:45 i just skipped it cuz i dont like soko 19:45 <@the_eternal_paradox> hehe I don't know 19:45 <@the_eternal_paradox> it's just like 19:45 <@the_eternal_paradox> "The Wizard of Yendor casts a spell!" 19:46 and then i lucked into the extra wishes later so it was fine 19:46 <@the_eternal_paradox> next turn, priest disappears from detect monsters map 19:46 i like soko, i can do em reasonably quick 19:46 how do u tend to spend wishes? 19:46 well i found "o magic breathing and levitation somehow, whihc made backdooring the castle easier 19:46 <@the_eternal_paradox> are all the things on astral stoning resistant now? 19:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Shelob, on T:24164 19:46 but i prefer tonal 19:47 <@luxidream> wishes are tough sometimes 19:47 <@luxidream> you need charging and genocide to win 19:47 i try not to think too much 19:47 <@luxidream> MR and reflection 19:47 about the wishes 19:47 i almost always get GDSM first 19:47 ya - my 3 biggest ?s are about: choosing wishes, items to ignore that r normally handy, and how to speed thru hell 19:48 sure, ya. i guess i mean @ castle level 19:48 <@luxidream> you want to grab up as much loot as possible in terms of scrolls and potions and stuff 19:48 <@luxidream> without going out of your way 19:48 <@the_eternal_paradox> please somebody answer it's important – 19:48 tommo: yea i already got sorta good at ignoring useless items and not being a packrat, which helps, but yea as lux says scrolls and pots r ur bread and butter 19:48 okay okay 19:48 cool 19:48 <@based> eternal im pretty sure everything that is dangerous is stoning resistant 19:48 <@based> such as riders and devas? 19:48 <@based> ill double check for devas 19:48 <@based> im not sure whats the 7 class is for you 19:48 <@luxidream> you need to use resources to speed through hell 19:49 tommo: one thing i noticed is when i play normal games im quite OCD about inventory management 19:49 <@luxidream> mostly writing magic mapping 19:49 would spend ages configuring my bag and naming items 19:49 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:49 usually i blank all my potions 4 blessing even w/o id'ing them 19:49 <@based> okay well devas are stone resistant 19:49 and then removing names that are no longer needed when things are formally id'd lol 19:49 haha awe 19:49 <@luxidream> you want to ID full healing, that's the only potion that matters 19:49 <@the_eternal_paradox> oh no 19:49 <@luxidream> besides that go to town 19:50 okay 19:50 <@the_eternal_paradox> um are 7s resistant 19:50 do u plan to alchemize stuff too? 19:50 i tend to blank almost every pot 19:50 lol 19:50 <@based> what enemy class is a 7 for you 19:50 i always feel like i spend a lot of thinking-time on alchemy 19:50 sometimes i keep some confusion 19:50 <@based> im spectating but i have a different config so idk what they are 19:50 <@luxidream> sometimes I make more full healing 19:50 or booze 19:51 <@luxidream> confusion isn't important for valk since you can use the orb 19:51 ooooo right 19:51 i forgot about that 19:51 i should use that lol 19:51 how do you do it? 19:51 apply? 19:51 <@luxidream> apply 19:51 ohright it gives you the traps/portals 19:51 my brain was on orb giving you confusion for a sec there lmao 19:52 i usually collect eggs haha 19:52 <@luxidream> that also happens too 🙂 19:52 <@the_eternal_paradox> oh wait actually I haven't met any 7s other than vanilla angelic beings 19:52 yea it can stun you as well right? 19:52 or just confuse 19:52 <@luxidream> confuse, hallu, blind 19:52 right 19:52 <@the_eternal_paradox> like couatl, aleax, etc. 19:52 do you levport much in valk realtime 19:52 <@the_eternal_paradox> I'm still on Air but y'know, just preparing 19:52 when you play it lux 19:53 <@luxidream> you don't need teleport control 19:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Lungorthin, on T:24573 19:53 <@luxidream> it saves time to have it 19:53 <@luxidream> if you need to wish for it and you're low on resources I would skip 19:53 mkay 19:53 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 329 points, T:1544, killed by a piranha 19:53 do u collect/id rings? & do u steal from shops? :D 19:54 <@luxidream> you really only want conflict and levitation 19:54 i rob shops for minturns 19:54 <@luxidream> having a polykit is nice, but not required for valk 19:54 if u only have conflict and levi you dont need to change rings 4head 19:54 wats levi for? i rarely use it in normal games 19:54 you need it for planes if you're not flying by other means 19:55 mmm 19:55 also crossing medusa 19:55 <@the_eternal_paradox> ok aa how dangerous is Plane of Fire w/o fire resistance 19:55 right 19:55 <@the_eternal_paradox> it timed out for me but I thought I had it permanently 19:55 <@luxidream> don't do tedious shop robbing strategies like credit cloning and pet stealing 19:55 yeah that takes forever 19:55 in slow games, i id the potion, and collect boots (to boot) 19:55 teleporting or digging out of shops is ok i think 19:55 <@luxidream> killing the shk or digging through the floor is 👍 19:55 ok ok 19:56 its good for both realtime and minturn strats i guess 19:56 the pet doesnt matter does it? 19:56 i play most roles petless 19:56 some sucky roles need the pet 19:56 but you dont have to play those roles 19:56 so its ok 19:57 ok one more q - how do u navigate gehennom? 19:57 <@based> @the_eternal_paradox if you can find the portal fast its shouldnt be too bad 19:57 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 19:58 i find i tend to get past valley before i hit level 14 4 the quest, and waste time backtracking 19:58 <@the_eternal_paradox> I mean I have reflection and stuff 19:58 <@the_eternal_paradox> should I tin a red dragon 19:58 <@based> not a bad idea 19:58 tommo: at some point in my nethack career my standard began to involve skpping loads by levport 19:58 like from valley levport to the vlad stair levels 19:58 map those 19:58 then find rodney and vs 19:58 do the rest on the way up 19:58 no roles really need the pet, the pet is always in the way 19:58 it kills you more then saves you 19:58 the_eternal_paradox: pretty sure you can work out monsters with stoning resistance by looking for monsters with MR_STONE in this file, https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dnethack/blob/master/dnethack-3.4.3/src/monst.c 19:59 <@the_eternal_paradox> I'm even more fidgety than yesterday with all this 19:59 microlance: i guess not but i would struggle to do petless healer i think lol 19:59 <@the_eternal_paradox> I smell a YASD soon even though I have like 4 AoLS 19:59 (pets r kinda fun/cute, fwiw, n then sumtimes they get OP in mines end) 19:59 <@the_eternal_paradox> hoooo Fire here I come!! 19:59 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1152 20:00 teh_eternal_paradox: :o 20:00 tommo: i guess i thought they were cute at first 20:00 haha 20:00 eventually i just found them annoying 20:00 they're so annoying 20:00 incredibly 20:01 they're great for that phase in learning nethack where ur still learning the early game 20:01 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 20:01 aoei: how do u get to xp14 for the quest? 20:02 tbh i struggle w that in general 20:02 sometimes beating castle and the valley gets you there naturally even if vegan 20:02 i play conducts sometimes but for speedrunning not so much really heh 20:02 revgeno wraith is the standard method 20:02 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:02 but its not vegetarian or vegan 20:03 i only ever did that once, n i got no corpses XD 20:03 oof 20:03 but! ive heard of it haha, ill try again 20:03 where did you perform th eoperation 20:03 idk, i thought it wasn't a gy lvl but, im noob 20:04 yeah im not 100% sure which ones i just know dont do it at valley or castle 20:04 maybe you just got unlucky 20:04 ye 20:04 sometimes a few scrolls are needed which is annoying as they are expensive 20:04 i usually hit 12 and hunt for potions GL 20:04 i think vegans can possibly do it by revgeno kraken 20:04 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:05 unless they changed the massive xp for those in 3.6, idk 20:05 no, i actually noticed that last game! 20:05 i was getting huge xp from ; 20:06 right, so killing the castle seamonsters helps too 20:06 idk whether its changed, but it helped me w that goal 20:07 wat do u look for in ur early game? i know u were playin w sum startscumming stuff a while back 20:07 is there a good flag for success/failure i should watch out for? 20:08 (ie is this doable w/o early wishes? etc) 20:08 the startscumming i do is not for realtime 20:08 okok 20:09 for sub-5k turncount i want to find a wow early 20:09 i didnt actually do sub-5k before tbh 20:09 <@the_eternal_paradox> I'M SO CONFUSED WHY ARE THERE NO AIR BUBBLES IN THE PLANE OF WATER 20:09 u'll get there :) 20:09 the_eternal_paradox wut 20:09 for real 20:09 <@the_eternal_paradox> oh wait is it because I'm flying?? 20:10 Are you drowned? 20:10 hehe thanks tommo 20:10 one more q b4 i jump into sum games - how do u track time? 20:10 i use this thingy called termdown that runs in a separate ditty little terminal 20:10 <@the_eternal_paradox> ?? I'm really confused 20:11 <@the_eternal_paradox> am I in a 1x1 bubble??? 20:11 the_eternal_paradox: don't you see two shades of water glyph? 20:11 i also have this kps meter which i think is exactly the same one i saw luxi using on a stream lol 20:11 <@the_eternal_paradox> uh yeah?? 20:11 <@the_eternal_paradox> what does the darker one mean?? 20:11 so, there are "bubbles" of one color, surrounded by blue non-bubbles, right? 20:12 <@the_eternal_paradox> umm yea 20:12 <@the_eternal_paradox> oh yeah the darker ones are safe 20:12 <@the_eternal_paradox> wow is this confusing 20:12 tommo: just a sec i made a screenshot of how i have it set up right now 20:13 lol! It makes a good show, the_eternal_paradox 20:13 <@the_eternal_paradox> why?? 20:13 <@the_eternal_paradox> I stepped into the wrong one by accident and it was very annoying 20:13 <@the_eternal_paradox> I gots intrinsic waterproofing, but still 20:13 <@the_eternal_paradox> w h y 20:14 tommo: https://0x0.st/-zLo.png (actual time on the clock there is wrong unfortunately, cuz i accidentally paused it for a while) 20:14 aoei: tyty. i found the github, it looks nice :3 20:14 ya its neat 20:15 can i have the command u use? 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8710 20:15 its got sum options but i dont wanna be a termdown expert :P 20:15 -aW 20:16 and then i ctrl+- to make the text smaller but thats an alacritty thing i think 20:16 <@the_eternal_paradox> uh dropped stuff will still follow you around as long as you're standing on its square right? 20:16 <@the_eternal_paradox> in Water ofc 20:17 cool thx so much :) 20:17 there is also this other one pystopwatch but i dont like it 20:17 n also luxi 4 chiming in ^_^ 20:17 <@riker> i think so eternal 20:17 it refuses to be small enough for my taste 20:17 <@riker> but im not sure 20:17 <@riker> why? 20:17 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:4370 20:17 <@the_eternal_paradox> dropping the Amulet so I can cast stuff better 20:18 <@the_eternal_paradox> I do have a lotta food, but still 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 2333 points, T:4373, killed by a wolf 20:19 <@the_eternal_paradox> this plane feels like it's designed to hurt your eyes -_- 20:19 tommo: no problem! its a fun new play style i am learning so its cool to chat about that 20:19 the_eternal_paradox: you're taking a relaxing raft-cruise. put on some shades or something. 20:20 he introduced me to orc wiz and orc ran those are fun to play 20:20 <@the_eternal_paradox> aaaaaaa 20:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25311 20:22 <@the_eternal_paradox> ok fine you're kinda right 20:22 <@the_eternal_paradox> it is relatively relaxing except it hurts my eyes 20:22 ohhh haha 20:23 i shy away from ranger, its defs my least fave role - maybe i havent quite grok'd it yet 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:69278 20:25 the_eternal_paradox: lol, in future there's probably ways to adjust the colors on your terminal to something you find less annoying. 20:26 <{Demo}> good luck 20:26 <@the_eternal_paradox> I'm used to the bubbles just being . 20:26 tommo: well its also a taste thing. stenno hates ranger too lol 20:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 943860 points, T:25510, shot himself with a death ray 20:26 <@the_eternal_paradox> I can barely play like 10 turns before I gotta look away :P 20:27 and they are not the top for speedrunning 20:27 valk or wiz is best 20:27 that sounds pretty awful. is one of the colors too bright or something? 20:27 oof ya. gathering all that ammo 20:27 its not too bad with autopickup and ctrl-move 20:27 <@the_eternal_paradox> no it all just looks the same 20:27 ctrl-move? 20:28 also when i last did ran i ran out of arrows at some point and switched to stormy 20:28 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 20:28 so, not enough contrast between the two water-glyph colors, then? 20:28 i have done a pure ranger ascension with just the arrows before lol 20:28 <@the_eternal_paradox> it's literally bold and not-bold 20:28 harder to do fast 20:28 for sure 20:28 <@the_eternal_paradox> exact same color and glyph 20:28 haha alright 20:28 the_eternal_paradox: I see. 20:29 tommo: if you hit ctrl with the hjklyubn move key you run in that direction 20:29 ohhh 20:29 you can cover ground faster spamming that shit 20:29 i use shift, is that the same? 20:29 altho sometimes its clumsy 20:29 oh i think its similar 20:29 <@the_eternal_paradox> if I look at it from far away it's okay-ish but like who plays (d)NetHack from ten feet away 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:69541 20:29 im not exactly sure whats different 20:29 kk well i gotcha anyway 20:31 i never really used it before recently 20:31 just individual moves and sometimes _ for landmarks 20:31 i luv _ 20:31 I underuse _ 20:32 i used to only play nh4/dyna cuz they had 'v' to autoexplore 20:32 *chefs kiss* 20:32 other bugs, tho :P 20:32 ctrl move is easier to spam than _ 20:32 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:32 shift move probably the same 20:32 not on the ascension 20:33 _<._<. etc 20:33 yeah ofc 20:33 altho it often doesnt work well on maze levels 20:34 ya, i dig paths in slow games - do u do that in speedrunning? 20:34 i will do some digging on the way up but i like to teleport if i can 20:35 thats more a minturns thing tho i guess 20:35 and some levels are no-tele anyway 20:35 <@luxidream> if you don't have tc it's better to dig early than late 20:35 i prefer to dig with the wands since you usually find a lot of them and pick-axe is heavy 20:35 lux: you mean old school dig on the way down strats? 20:36 ye im often burdened by my pick in hell 20:36 that was how i played when i started (but i didnt play fast at all) 20:36 <@luxidream> yea you face a lot of harassment on the way up 20:36 ill try that w wands 20:36 thats true 20:36 the_eternal_paradox: depending on your platform, you might find something helpful here https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Colors 20:36 less of an issue with digging wands since they take no gametime to zap 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by an invisible titan), on T:12503 20:37 <@luxidream> I find digging wands to be too slow in realtime 20:37 autodig is a huge advantage in realtime 20:37 i already realised this 20:37 ohhh i forgot about autodig 20:37 <@luxidream> an enchanted pick-axe will dig fairly quickly 20:37 yea 20:37 thats tru 20:38 luxi: u recommend exploring most of pre-castle dungeon fully, right? 20:39 i am bad at that 20:39 <@luxidream> you can do that and still get a good time 20:39 haha okay 20:39 i didnt skip too much this game tho 20:39 <@luxidream> there is no loot in swamps but you knew that already 20:39 * tinklebear personally hates autoopen, but kind of wonders how helpful realtime people find it 20:39 <@luxidream> it doesn't matter 20:40 now i know! 20:40 hehe 20:40 <@luxidream> I'd rather have it than not though 🙂 20:40 gotcha 20:40 <@luxidream> wait, autoopen as in doors? 20:40 yeah 20:41 <@luxidream> I thought you meant autounlock for some reason 20:41 oh, well, maybe I did! 20:41 lol. I hate all that crap. 20:42 but yeah, i do wonder how much it helps realtimers 20:42 the only one which i didn't like so much in normal games is autodig, so i switch it off, but i see the value for rt 20:42 <@luxidream> I started playing in 3.6, so I'm too used to having autoopen 20:42 <@luxidream> maybe ask adeon if it bothers him 20:42 i thought 343 had autoopen too, but not auto-unlock 20:42 maybe im misremembering 20:42 adeon please tell us 20:42 <@luxidream> 343-hdf has autoopen 20:43 fuck auto open 20:43 lol! 20:43 <@luxidream> thanks Adeon 20:43 haha! 20:44 <@luxidream> wait so you actually like pressing o to open doors 20:44 <@luxidream> please explain 20:44 whats not to like 20:44 wait no 20:44 i got that the wrong way around ignore me 20:45 <@luxidream> without autoopen, when you bump into a door, it doesn't open until you use o 20:45 yea i know 20:45 i was thinking "whats not to like about not having to press the extra button" 20:45 which didnt make sense in context 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13923 20:46 <@luxidream> on an unrelated topic I watched some sm64 commentated races and it was really hype 20:46 oh 20:47 aoei: losing explicit control over fine details of operations 20:47 * tinklebear is the opposite of a realtimer 20:47 tinklebear: yea this is the thing that bugged me about autodig in normal games cuz i sometimes dug when i didnt mean to 20:47 <@luxidream> well that's why it's an option right? 20:47 luxidream: wtf is this dinosaur running thing you mentioned yesterday 20:47 yea ofc 20:47 <@luxidream> some people like it, others don't 20:47 luxidream, yes, of course 20:47 but i switch it on if im trying to rt run 20:47 because in that scenario its very handy 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 18687 points, T:14212, killed by a giant sergeant, while moving through the air 20:48 <@luxidream> did you play the chrome dinosaur game 20:48 <@luxidream> lmao 20:48 i did not 20:48 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:48 i still have basically no clue what that is 20:49 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/798730302818091028/ChromeDino-796x500.png 20:49 lol! 20:49 looks very exciting 20:49 did you ever spend a whole day playing 20:50 <@luxidream> that would require spending a whole day with no internet 20:50 yes 20:50 that is tru 20:50 so did you? 20:51 <@luxidream> anyway most people think that you can only jump, but you can actually fall faster while in the air by pressing down, crouch, and make small jumps 20:51 <@luxidream> the more you know 20:51 ah so it is an actual game 20:51 do you have to jump the cactuses or what 20:52 <@luxidream> that's the whole game lol 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:70979 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:70980 20:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:71001 20:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2825 20:56 just those two cactuses, or does it like side-scroll? 20:57 * tinklebear remebers an arcade kiosk game "Defender" 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2623 20:58 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 3664 points, T:4919, killed by an ancient pseudodragon, while praying 20:59 this game is part of google chrome? 20:59 are they trolling the mozilla people? 20:59 the only arcade games i remember are space invaders and pacman 21:00 and im not even the right generation i think 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Voyager, on T:71367 21:00 <@luxidream> not even dance dance revolution? 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2956 21:01 i never played games in a real arcade tbh 21:01 never played ddr, and pacman/space invaders i only played some knockoff console versions or something 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3166 21:02 frankly, I think pachinko parlors look way more cool. but I don't have much experience with either. 21:02 why can't I find good pachinko videos on youtube? 21:02 what is a pachinko parlors 21:02 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 21:02 sort of like pinball, but with uber-more balls 21:03 there's a scene at the beginning of a peter greenaway movie with a pachinko parlor. it's pretty awesome. 21:03 heh 21:04 i think i tried some type of pinball machien once in my life 21:04 lots of mechanical noise, and bright shiny metal balls shuffling and bouncing around 21:04 <@luxidream> they look really fun 21:04 idk if it was a particularly good one 21:04 <@luxidream> it's actually gambling though right? 21:04 it was an old thing in one of my uni dorms or so 21:04 <@riker> bright shinies bouncing around? 21:04 hm i think this one wasnt proper gambling stuff 21:04 <@riker> crow brain ACTIVATED 21:04 luxidream, so I am led to understand. but idk anyting 21:05 riker: exactly! 21:05 i dooo somewhat get distracted by the shinies 21:06 <@luxidream> i feel like arcade is like casino except not depressing 21:06 <@luxidream> I have some cool friends that I go to play dance games with 21:07 i mean that does look fun 21:07 <@luxidream> that'll be nice to get back to hopefully in the next month 21:07 i think scott and knives play it in pilgrim vs world 21:07 not 100% sure if its the same game tho 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2872 points, T:4012, killed by an uninjured plains centaur 21:10 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:11 <@luxidream> https://www.twitch.tv/triadspacefight/clip/GlutenFreeScrumptiousPuffinANELE 21:11 <@luxidream> I found a clip of me playing pre-pandemic 21:11 looks the same as from the movie yea 21:11 have u seen pilgrim vs world 21:11 its great 21:11 kinda dumb 21:11 but great 21:12 <@luxidream> I looked up the clip, it looks silly 21:12 <@luxidream> never seen the movie 21:12 silly is correct 21:18 @luxidream next month? are you in some high priority vaccination group? 21:19 <@luxidream> whenever phase 3 happens 21:19 <@luxidream> OK is in phase 2 right now 21:19 <@luxidream> students are higher priority 21:19 bc u are the future 21:19 <@luxidream> probably because they are stupid and spread the virus a lot 21:20 i like my take better but you're probably right lol 21:20 * aosdict is slumming it in NY phase 2 - "all others" 21:20 "we'll get around to you by summer. maybe." 21:20 -!- infinigon has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:21 i dont know exactly how it works over here with phases or whatever... but my flatmate said something like Dec 2021 for "most people" which would include him and myself 21:25 <@riker> @luxidream the clip cuts off - did you get it? :) 21:25 <@luxidream> no I died 21:25 <@luxidream> the ending on that song is really stupid 21:26 <@luxidream> the holds are worth like 10 notes so if you miss any you die instantly 21:26 heh 21:27 not really related but have i told you have much i love this one track from beltaine "burning pipers hut" - it does some very cool Gödel-Escher-Bach strange loopy stuff with melody and tempo that really tickles my brain 21:27 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmmm talking rhythm games are you? 21:28 they were i wasnt 21:28 hence not really related idk why i thought about it now 21:28 <@luxidream> yes 21:28 <@the_eternal_paradox> heard of BMS? 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 1306 points, T:1982, killed by a giant mosquito 21:29 <@luxidream> I used to grind insane charts a long time ago 21:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 blue dragon scale mail", on T:5578 21:29 <@luxidream> I'm long retired now but it was a good time 21:29 <@luxidream> I'm long retired now but it was a good time 21:29 ur discord is janky lol 21:29 <@riker> man you sound like you're in your 70s 21:29 LOL yes 21:30 <@riker> "back in the good ol' days, before we had this whole "virus" thang, i used to go out and rock out at the arcade with my buds" 21:30 <@luxidream> you need to practice a lot to keep up that skill lol 21:30 <@riker> hm. i nested double quotes there. oh well 21:30 yea that makes sense 21:30 >>accidentally runs virus.exe 21:30 i never did it but it looks v fun 21:30 <@riker> consider me thoroughly shocked luxidream 21:30 <@riker> lmao tommo 21:31 <@the_eternal_paradox> I thought I was good at rhythm games :P 21:31 <@luxidream> I didn't make it that far up 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1315 21:31 <@luxidream> I was 4th dan insane 21:31 :o 21:31 sounds impressive 21:32 <@the_eternal_paradox> :O 21:32 i went 2 uni w the guitar hero WR holder, back in the 2000s :P 21:32 does dancing badly at parties (but fully living for it) count as a rhythm game? 21:32 bc if so i am one of the top leaders 21:32 <@luxidream> guitar hero wr holder? 21:32 <@luxidream> in all of guitar hero? 21:33 apparently? idk haha 21:33 <@luxidream> what record does he have 21:33 loool do u think he was for real 21:33 or a teller of tall tales 21:33 <@luxidream> he/she/they 21:33 er yea that 21:33 i was a young'un, i just remember reading an article about him 21:33 as a girl on the internet i ought to know better lol 21:33 haha 21:34 i think i have sum of his homework stashed away in storage sumwhere, if i could remember his name i could maybe post a link 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1132 points, T:1088, killed by an uninjured gnome 21:37 yep, i think it's lost 2 the ages :P 21:37 <@luxidream> I like how you know he's the guitar hero WR holder but can't remember his name 21:37 eric :P 21:37 there's a lot of erics tho lol 21:38 this was like. 2006 21:39 but i remember he never told us! my buddy googled him 21:39 so shh, it a secret 21:41 lol! 21:41 cool 21:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:45 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 21:45 the_eternal_paradox: are you still on plane of water? 21:46 (i mean, in your saved game, presumably) 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1644 21:47 <@the_eternal_paradox> uh yeah I am 21:47 <@the_eternal_paradox> it's gonna take a while to detect the portal so I'll do it tomorrow 21:47 cool. 21:48 I was thinking of something you could try, to make the bubbles less visually annoying, maybe 21:48 (I don't play dnethack, have no idea if this will work, but...) 21:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:35873 21:48 it's possible the bubbles are puddle squares, right? 21:49 and if they are, then you could put a line like this in your config: 21:49 SYMBOLS=S_puddle:. 21:49 I think you said '.' was the glyph you were more used to, for bubble squares? 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 516 points, T:2052, killed by a wounded dwarf 21:50 <@the_eternal_paradox> hmm maybe it could work? 21:50 <@the_eternal_paradox> let me go check 21:54 <@the_eternal_paradox> um does'nt seem to work? 21:54 okay. 21:54 * tinklebear sighs 21:54 <@the_eternal_paradox> welp I'm definitely coming back tomorrow because I can't stand that anymore today 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9994 21:55 lol. well, good luck tomorrow. 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 678 points, T:1945, killed by a wounded hill orc 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:10040 21:58 <@riker> aosdict, is xnethack installable via package manager? 21:59 * aoei knows that SYMBOLS=S_ghost:8,S_golem:7 works in her nao rcfile but isnt sure about this puddle example 21:59 <@riker> apt is trying ot tell me about "xnethack", installed under nethack-x11 but separate from "nethack" installed by hte same thing 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a brown pudding, on T:10090 22:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:7551 22:01 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1091 22:09 @riker xnethack is not in any package manager I know of, "xnethack" in apt is probably the x11 build 22:10 <{Demo}> xnethack was originally going to be a variant of nethack that would see experimental changes made and reverted every now and then just doing some crazy and cool stuff 22:10 <{Demo}> but then it just ended up being a "vanilla but it's better" variant 22:10 oof, a 8x9 gen store w lava inside 22:11 <{Demo}> dont drink the lava 22:12 -!- qt has quit [Quit: night] 22:12 fine 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3427 22:15 aoei: In evilhack, I use it to change the puddle glyph to '_'. Works there (ie, I haven't drowned a horse since.) 22:16 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 bone helm of brilliance", on T:8692 22:16 but maybe it's a 3.6.x thing, so dnethack doesn't like it? I know nothing at all... 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2250 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3822 22:20 oh 22:20 343 had it different in the config 22:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Con Gno Fem Cha), 33 points, T:543, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 22:20 but you could do similar stuff 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:2627 22:21 i had a line saying MONSTERS= and then this list of glyphs 22:21 in my old rcfile 22:21 which replaced ghost to X 22:21 i didnt change any terrain squars in mine iirc 22:21 found juiblex while dipping; put on an un id'd helm n hoped 22:21 huh 22:21 turns out, it's still hostile :P 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4075 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 1080 points, T:2631, killed by uninjured Juiblex 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a coconut on an altar, on T:4082 22:24 :c 22:24 (╯°□°)╯︵ ʞɔɐHʇǝᴎ 22:27 hehe 22:28 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1272 points, T:1279, killed by a gas spore's explosion 22:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1173 22:29 aoei: yeah, there like was a OPTIONS=dungeon: 22:29 it was pretty nerve-wracking to edit, iirc 22:30 * tinklebear hates to count 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 58 points, T:50, burned by a tower of flame 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:2, killed by a falling rock 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2430 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2562 22:38 yea i never really edited that one by hand 22:38 i copied someone elses lol 22:38 Hi. 22:38 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 22:38 hey umby<3 22:39 * tinklebear wanted trees to look like green trolls 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3076 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:77910 22:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1666 points, T:2096, killed by a rothe 22:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 187240 points, T:10643, killed by a silver arrow 22:54 tinklebear: did it work? :o 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5311 22:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Elf Fem Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:2922 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 380 points, T:1296, killed by a wounded gnome 23:02 Wow, I actually can't concentrate on anything tonight. 23:02 Feel like fucking garbage. 23:03 oh no :c 23:03 how come, r u ok? 23:03 I am very evidently now. 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 864 points, T:1120, killed by a wounded rothe 23:03 is it just one of those days 23:03 Mhm. 23:03 F 23:03 not* not now. 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:50 23:04 poor Umb 23:06 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1234 points, T:3311, killed by an uninjured hallucinogen-distorted plains centaur 23:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4751 23:09 Umbire: FWIW, I hope tomorrow is better 23:09 Mm. 23:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] polyphile (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 320 points, T:466, killed by a wounded gnome lord 23:12 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:12 aoei: it did. and setting the first glyph (representing "solid rock") to '.' had some odd side-effects, iirc 23:12 heh 23:12 intriguing 23:12 have u tried goin 4 a walk? sumtimes i get grumpy when i forget the outside world ^^; 23:13 Umbire: ^ 23:13 tommo: lol! i go for so many walks lately... 23:13 its my main coping mechanism for anxiety 23:13 ya! 23:13 It's 11PM. 23:13 i know its corny, but yoga has rly helped me 23:13 i sometimes go for late walks tbh 23:13 nothin wrong w a midnight stroll 23:13 but maybe its weird or unsafe where you live, i dont know 23:13 Plus if I humor that specific impulse I might hunt down traffic to throw myself into. 23:13 sumtimes 2am is when i realize i gotta stop nh-ing 23:13 Also it's cold. I despise cold. 23:14 Umbire: fair 23:14 i sometimes have weird intrusive thoughts like that a the metro station 23:14 winter can be miserable 23:14 kay well. i trust u 2 know wat works 4 u 23:14 idk why like im not actually suicidal or whatever 23:14 just a ~prompt~ 23:14 i thihnk its just brains bein weird 23:14 I appreciate the attempts to help. 23:14 * tinklebear ought to take more walks 23:15 _>. 23:15 Umbire: you seem like a chill/nice person and i hope you have some better days ahead lol 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 17844 points, T:7181, killed by an uninjured gargoyle 23:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pir Elf Fem Cha), 28661 points, T:7232, killed by an ettin mummy 23:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Ana Hum Fem Neu), 40737 points, T:4108, killed by a warrior changed 23:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 2983 points, T:2779, killed by a gnome lord 23:36 ...what IS a warrior changed. 23:45 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 23:45 You kick the gray stone. The gray stone misses. 23:45 terrified me 4 a sec 23:45 lol! 23:46 what variant/role u doing atm 23:46 3.7 23:46 it missed a monster, further down the hall ^^; 23:47 hehe yea i figured it out but it took em a minute as well 23:47 in other news, i found a pile touchstones :P 23:47 kewl 23:47 on minturn runs i basically have to revgeno black dragons at castle 23:48 it helps a lot of the gem room has a touchstone 23:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 5807 points, T:2780, killed by a gnome 23:48 <@riker> umbire: a changed, but warrior caste 23:48 <@riker> :) 23:48 <@riker> (ana quest shops? do'nt steal. they don't call the cops, they say a prayer to the local eldritch mafia) 23:49 <{Demo}> don't attack 23:49 lol damn 23:49 <{Demo}> they have friends in high places 23:49 must be a minefield to try and minturn run dnh 23:49 how do you rob shops 23:50 <@riker> you gotta poly ampule then merc demo 23:50 <@riker> just didnt kill this guy first :/ accidentally stepped out 23:51 poly shk, then kill, and do all that b4 you leave? 23:52 So what're the Changed? 23:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 497 points, T:813, killed by a kobold, while helpless 23:53 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:55 <@riker> yes aoei 23:56 cool 23:56 <@riker> umbire you know that one scp about pressure suits that have like, some teeth and some eyes and salt water? 23:56 good to know cheers riker 23:56 Pressure suits... 23:56 Like, diver suits? 23:56 <@riker> scp 1861 23:56 or space suits perhaps? :o 23:57 <@riker> combined with the "kaori" and "malite custodians" 23:57 <@riker> two unrelated RPG game races 23:57 <@riker> https://www.deviantart.com/thirdeyepl/art/Malite-Custodian-307574282 23:58 <@riker> *kaorti 23:58 I don't know my SCPs by memory sadly 23:58 whats an scp 23:59 But that seems cool. 23:59 <@riker> look it up by number :) had to google 23:59 Longstory, I'll give you a quick TL;DR 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2368 23:59 <@riker> aoei are you genuinely not familiar or trolling 23:59 no troll haha 23:59 im way lost 23:59 maybe ill just stay out of things i know nothing about lol 23:59 * aoei hides quietly under the table 23:59 <@riker> simple answer is it was originally a collection of creepypasta like things, tending more towards gothic than jumpscare, written as "data logs" or smth