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00:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1442 points, T:1471, killed by an uninjured killer bee
00:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:46904
00:15 <K2> !who
00:15 <Beholder> K2: [hdf-us] Bourne [dyn] Estyn [nh370] hearsegirl [spl] Bau [fh] | [hdf-eu] aoei [nh370] Glord [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players
00:17 <K2> dNethack updated (all servers)
00:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6486
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00:22 <Umbire> K2: what's da update
00:22 <Umbire> hi stenno
00:22 <K2> bug fixes
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00:24 <Umbire> o
00:29 <aoei> stenno1: just ascended 3h 25min Orc Ran :PogChamp: (aoei on NAO-366)
00:29 <aoei> personal best \o/
00:30 <Andrio> Nice~
00:30 <aoei> it was with a random pre-castle wow tho lmao
00:30 <aoei> not deliberately scummed for, just randomly found one
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00:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:8074
01:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2901
01:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3397
01:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3571
01:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4377
01:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Eiop (Bau) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 32460 points, T:3478, killed by a gnome lord
01:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5176 points, T:8193, killed by a nearly deceased hill orc, while fainted from lack of food
01:29 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:14812
01:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 407 points, T:994, killed by a slightly wounded water demon
01:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 361 points, T:1263, killed by a wounded invisible gnome lady
01:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2556
01:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2993 points, T:3350, killed by a bolt of cold
01:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (giant mimics), on T:1016
01:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 113552 points, T:15649, quit
01:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2028
01:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:23948
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02:05 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1272
02:11 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2467 points, T:2938, killed by a crossbow bolt
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02:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law), 222 points, T:960, killed by a magic missile
02:14 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 252 points, T:934, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a trap
02:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3486
02:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 11317 points, T:3528, killed by a wounded blue dragon
02:18 <aoei> bleh
02:18 <aoei> polytrap i think
02:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:6877
02:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 205 points, T:363, killed by a wounded dwarf
02:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 695 points, T:683, killed by an uninjured gnome
02:24 <Umbire> Had to be
02:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8030
02:26 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 380 points, T:619, killed by an uninjured gnome
02:27 <aoei> ... maybe i should setmintc lol
02:27 -!- aoei is now known as Stella
02:27 <Stella> !setmintc 10000000
02:27 <Beholder> Stella: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for stella set to 10000000
02:27 -!- Stella is now known as aoei
02:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 193640 points, T:24723, poisoned by a rotted wraith corpse
02:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 18893 points, T:10401, killed by a wounded owlbear
02:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law), 5539 points, T:2883, killed by an uninjured rothe
02:40 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 437 points, T:2304, killed by a hobgoblin
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02:56 <FIQ> why 10 million turns
02:56 <FIQ> what if you ascend
02:56 <FIQ> nobody will notice
02:57 <aoei> doesn't it still show ascensions?
02:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1580
03:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:3822
03:12 <aoei> :/
03:12 <aoei> has anyone else been having really shit luck with magic lamps on 370?
03:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4326
03:12 <aoei> i swear like 5 have failed in a row now
03:12 <aoei> all blessed
03:12 <aoei> dunno if bug or im just really unlucky
03:16 <Andrio> Mine wasn't bad luck
03:16 <Andrio> I just didn't realise the potion of water was cursed because I couldn't see it
03:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4984
03:21 <aoei> :/
03:21 <aoei> im compiling the latest beta locally to wiztest
03:22 <aoei> i might just be unlucky, but...
03:22 <aoei> one way to find out for sure
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03:24 <arahael> Woah.  Mindflayer.  Gnomish mines, level 6.
03:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5409
03:26 <aoei> works in wizmode
03:26 <aoei> guess im just unlucky lol
03:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:5464
03:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:5682
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04:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] hearsegirl (Nob Hlf Fem Cha), 56057 points, T:17839, killed by a priest of Moloch
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04:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11449
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04:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] hearsegirl (Arc Vam Fem Neu), 226 points, T:372, killed by a dwarf
04:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] hearsegirl (Arc Vam Fem Neu), 149 points, T:431, killed by a marid
05:02 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:35898
05:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] hearsegirl (Arc Vam Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1294
05:18 <arahael> Hmm.  Energy vortex in the soko zoo.
05:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Speleologist, on T:36905
05:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:13102
05:26 <Andrio> That's not uncommon.
05:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13879
05:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law), 31293 points, T:13953, killed by an uninjured soldier ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze
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05:48 <rld> <@p0werm0de> oops rip @Alex
05:48 <rld> <@p0werm0de> eh sorry
05:48 <rld> <@p0werm0de> meant to irc alex
05:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] hearsegirl (Arc Vam Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6313
05:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:17364
06:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:31378
06:05 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 4199 points, T:2032, killed by a crow
06:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed the invisible Oona, on T:31667
06:11 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 917 points, T:812, killed by an owlbear
06:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32275
06:18 <rld> <@malor> @K2 Can you please restore my game to the previous save point?  Somehow "Vlad the Impaler" didn't drop the Candelabra?
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06:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] hearsegirl (Arc Vam Fem Neu), 58810 points, T:9815, killed by an invisible quinon
06:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:1432
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06:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:38916
06:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:38917
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06:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:39173
06:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39211
06:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 281 points, T:679, mowed down by a gnome lord, while sleeping
07:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 419 points, T:996, dispatched by a rabid rat
07:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] kalik (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:733
07:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) stole 640 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Maganasipi's general store, on T:34996
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07:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Collector, on T:39979
07:21 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:10009
07:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:10025
07:25 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4373
07:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:10176
07:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:10178
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07:33 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8108
07:33 <Tangles> The odds, upon reaching mimic of the mines, of opening 3 secret doors and not finding a mimic inside any of them... about 2.86%
07:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4031
07:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 755 points, T:1570, killed by a boiling potion
07:35 <Tangles> The odds of finding as many as 3 secret doors without consulting the map on the wiki, probably less.
07:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4297
07:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh363] infinigon (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:31555
07:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 7510 points, T:5376, slaughtered by a large cat
07:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 90 points, T:452, taken down by a serval
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07:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "3 cursed potions of gain level", on T:10202
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08:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:41475
08:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1513
08:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1886
08:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed fixed scrolls of charging", on T:38226
08:09 <Andrio> I often find myself trying to remember where they are without looking at the wiki.
08:10 <Andrio> and it's about 1.74% actually
08:10 <aoei> i try to do it without checking wiki too
08:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 73 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:10948
08:11 <aoei> !rng ValDwaFemLaw | WizElfFemCha | RanOrcFemCha | PriElfFemCha
08:11 <Beholder> aoei: PriElfFemCha
08:11 <aoei> alright Beholder 
08:11 <aoei> you got it
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08:14 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:11185
08:15 -!- aoei is now known as Stella
08:15 <Stella> !setmintc 2000
08:15 <Beholder> Stella: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for stella set to 2000
08:15 -!- Stella is now known as aoei
08:15 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 84 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:11281
08:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3322
08:17 <rld> <@nabru> !role
08:17 <Beholder> @nabru: nethack4 ranger
08:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1
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08:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 5885 points, T:3499, dismembered by an invisible Mordor orc
08:20 <rld> <@nabru> !lastgame davez
08:20 <Beholder> @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/davez/splicehack/dumplog/1609678513.splice.html
08:24 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6257
08:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the Grue, on T:39028
08:24 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6301
08:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2410
08:33 <rld> <@p0werm0de> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772457727221825536/795283639202086912/yarr.png
08:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1268
08:34 <amateurhour> nice
08:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:55776
08:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:55787
08:36 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 4421 points, T:3811, killed by an uninjured straw golem
08:38 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:7457
08:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4681
08:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4681
08:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:35464
08:41 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:42833
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08:47 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh363] infinigon (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:32577
08:48 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:11740
08:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Metals, on T:36166
08:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1867 points, T:2199, killed by an uninjured soldier ant
08:53 <aoei> gogogo elenmirie__ 
08:53 <elenmirie__> thanks
08:54 <aoei> ok that was my fault for pinging you, but you don't have time for IRC :D
08:56 <mobileuser> "A gush of water hits the yellow light's right ray!" that's extremely specific :-)
08:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 791 points, T:2102, killed by a bolt of cold
08:57 <aoei> mobileuser: lmao
09:01 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8412
09:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 45 points, T:252, killed by an uninjured sewer rat
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09:03 * aoei has noticed that music is extremely important for her realtime speedrun play
09:03 <aoei> my fingers naturally want to keep tempo and rhythm with the music
09:03 <aoei> so slow music is no good
09:04 <aoei> unless i want to play slowly lol
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09:04 <aosdict> bring out the extremely fast playlist
09:04 <aoei> yea :>
09:04 <amateurhour> through the fire and the flames, we carry ooooooon
09:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased the garnet rod", on T:39168
09:05 <aoei> oh yeah is that dragonforce or something? that'd be ace for it
09:05 <aoei> not that im a big fan of dragonforce or anything
09:05 <aoei> but
09:05 <aosdict> karma chameleon on infinite loop (or cue it up whenever fighting an actual chameleon)
09:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:7106
09:05 <aoei> power or speed metal probably works well
09:06 <aoei> lux got me into Beltain which is uh polish folk i think but that's also quite uptempo a lot of it
09:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide jumping boots", on T:39176
09:06 <aoei> Beltaine*
09:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:12525
09:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5382 points, T:3063, killed by a blast of disintegration
09:12 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:12645
09:12 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:12646
09:15 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed oilskin sack", on T:39522
09:15 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:12728
09:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 engagement ring", on T:39531
09:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:12738
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09:20 <aoei> neutral 😦 
09:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7586
09:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:12810
09:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:7602
09:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:7756
09:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1198746 points, T:12828, ascended
09:24 <Beholder> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/nethack/dumplog/1609656841.nh.html
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09:28 <stenno2> grats
09:28 <stenno2> nice turncount
09:28 <elenmirie__> thanks stenno2
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09:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Campos (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:41575
09:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Campos (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41576
09:29 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:45664
09:30 <amateurhour> gratz elenmirie__ 
09:30 <mobileuser> congrats elenmirie__!
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09:31 <elenmirie__> thanks!
09:32 <rld> <@malor> Congratulations
09:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 392 points, T:861, killed by a heavily wounded dwarf
09:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:40340
09:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:1512
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09:37 <stenno> wow, with mace as main weapon
09:38 <stenno> prob. does more damage than basic stormy
09:38 <stenno> not in the mood for atheist then?
09:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 318 points, T:898, killed by a boulder
09:41 <stenno> aoei: https://i.redd.it/llc695jf73961.png
09:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 116 points, T:221, killed by an electric shock
09:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] zantyr (Acu Mag Fem Law), 996 points, T:1312, killed by a monster (clockwork dood)
09:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Campos (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:42052
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46341
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46350
09:46 <stenno> should an illiterate character wish for +2 or +3 armor
09:46 <stenno> +2 i guess?
09:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonbane", on T:24077
09:47 <amateurhour> +5
09:47 <amateurhour> yolo
09:47 <NAOrsa> is'nt it like less bonus, then more likely?
09:47 <aoei> gratsa elenmirie__ 
09:48 <aoei> NAOrsa: yeah but its more awesome when you luck into the +5
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09:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Alex's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:993
09:49 <NAOrsa> hi tinklebear
09:50 <NAOrsa> aoei: i always fear the wish will fail and I get nuthin' ;_;
09:50 <aoei> i mean you'll get the thing
09:50 <aoei> it'll just usually be +0
09:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Mammon, on T:40933
09:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:46600
09:51 <aoei> since stenno is playing illit, a more conservative number like +2 or +3 is probably a better choice
09:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1075
09:51 <aoei> because if you don't get the +5 and you're literate, you're likely to enchant it yourself anyway
09:52 <aoei> also depends if you care about streaking/ratio
09:52 <aoei> a metagaming illit speedrunner might just wish for +5 anyway cuz the games that hit on +5 will have a better shot at success
09:52 <stenno> yeah i wont be able to enchant
09:53 <tinklebear> good luck for the new year, NAOrsa
09:53 <stenno> think +2 is more sensible
09:53 <NAOrsa> thank you =)
09:53 <stenno> over +3
09:53 <NAOrsa> could be more likely to achieve :)
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09:54 <aoei> stenno: just #quit if you don't get +5
09:54 <aoei> :)
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09:54 <stenno> bruh
09:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1506 points, T:1433, killed by a scroll of earth
09:58 <amateurhour> yeah if u don't get the +5 then this isn't teh urn
09:59 <aoei> XD
09:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:57581
09:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:57583
09:59 * tinklebear looks askance at amateurhour and aoei's attempts to sabotage stenno's morale
09:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 61 points, T:261, killed by an uninjured kobold
10:00 <stenno> i am not really speedrunning though
10:00 <stenno> just theorycrafting a run
10:00 <stenno> build
10:00 <aoei> lol tinklebear we're just trolling him a bit c'mon
10:01 <aoei> not *actually* trying to sabotage
10:01 <tinklebear> ;D
10:01 <aoei> :D
10:01 <tinklebear> that amateurhour, tho. *always* trying to stick the knife in!
10:01 <amateurhour> stenno is self-sabotaging by not wishing for the +5
10:01 <aoei> lawl
10:01 <aoei> amateurhour: XD
10:01 <amateurhour> I consulted rngesus, and he told me that this time it would have been +5
10:02 <aoei> it's 50/50 either you get +5 or you don't
10:02 <amateurhour> ^this was confirmed by rngesus themself
10:02 <aoei> if not start over, char was doomed from t:1
10:02 <NAOrsa> !rng +5 | +2
10:02 <Beholder> NAOrsa: +2
10:02 * aoei giggling so much irl rn
10:03 <{Demo}> wish for a high altar
10:04 <aoei> omg {Demo}
10:04 <rld> <@luxidream> Why not scum for throne geno
10:04 <aoei> can't believe Maud never thought of that
10:04 <aoei> coulda had t:1 asc
10:04 <aoei> or i guess t:2
10:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4707 points, T:5020, killed by a heavily wounded gnome king
10:04 <rld> <@luxidream> instead of wishing for enchantment
10:04 <amateurhour> imagine if that was actually possible all these years and we just never thought to try it
10:05 <aoei> i know what I'm going when i finally scum for that t:1 wow
10:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:24939
10:05 <rld> <@luxidream> also congrats aoei and elenmirie
10:05 <rld> <@luxidream> I never get to watch anything do I
10:05 <aoei> lol luxidream
10:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24944
10:06 <aoei> sorry :c
10:06 <aoei> maybe when im better at this i'll stream some :o
10:06 <amateurhour> at least you get to tune into most of the nethack twitch streams
10:06 <amateurhour> need more european timezone friendly nethack streamers 
10:06 <amateurhour> >:(
10:06 <rld> <@luxidream> Well you got to see mine last time
10:06 <rld> <@luxidream> What time was that for you
10:07 <amateurhour> are you west coast?
10:07 <rld> <@luxidream> cst
10:07 <aoei> @luxidream my last asc was both realtime pr and wallclock pr i think, like i took breaks but i woke up at midnight (don't ask me why), ascended before 6am
10:07 <amateurhour> 6h time difference usually
10:09 <rld> <@luxidream> Yeah that would be during the workday for most streamers
10:09 <amateurhour> the annoying part for most of the nethack streams I manage to catch, is they're usually the start of the stream
10:09 <amateurhour> so just rolled a new character
10:09 <amateurhour> so all I get to see is like the gnomish mines
10:09 <amateurhour> lol
10:09 <rld> <@luxidream> That’s the interesting part though
10:09 <aoei> what would be the workday for most streamers?
10:09 <rld> <@luxidream> When amateurhour is awake
10:10 <aoei> ah right
10:10 <rld> <@luxidream> when streams get going in the evening here he would be asleep
10:10 <aoei> oh yeah ofc
10:10 <aoei> except when his sleeping pattern is backwards
10:10 <amateurhour> oh there's someone streaming right now and they got the amulet
10:10 <aoei> mine often is too, so then i can catch the strims
10:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3197
10:10 <aoei> i just don't care to
10:11 <aoei> unless it's someone cool like lux or antigulp
10:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3410 points, T:2059, killed by a wounded small mimic
10:11 <rld> <@luxidream> did you fix your fan
10:11 <aoei> idk i guess there might be some cool ones
10:11 <aoei> but its more fun if i already know the streamer
10:12 <aoei> not yet :C
10:12 <rld> <@luxidream> Tone is cool but he only plays during tournament
10:12 <aoei> it's annoyingly difficult to access
10:12 <aoei> ah
10:12 <rld> <@luxidream> this time of year he’s playing cogmind and other games
10:12 <rld> <@luxidream> Still a good follow though
10:12 <aoei> actually i might check out one of his cogmind streams at some point
10:12 <aoei> because the game sounds super cool
10:12 <aoei> yeah i already followed him and saw some cogmind notifications
10:12 <aoei> not yet peeped
10:13 <rld> <@luxidream> he is trying to make a cogmind for dummies guide
10:13 <rld> <@luxidream> I might wait for that to start learning the game :p
10:14 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible crow-winged half-dragon, on T:41425
10:14 <rld> <@luxidream> Knowing him it would be pretty accurate and free of superstition
10:15 <aoei> sweet
10:15 <aoei> yea Tone seems like a smart dude
10:16 <{Demo}> i was taught nethack by someone so superstitious
10:16 <{Demo}> they told me ALL cursed items weighed more and a lot of wrong stuff like that
10:17 <aoei> lmao wtf
10:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Curator, on T:47016
10:17 <rld> <@luxidream> it’s easy to make bad inferences from a small sample size
10:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5672 points, T:1852, quit
10:18 <rld> <@luxidream> probably they picked up a cursed banded mail or something
10:18 <stenno> i will ask another time about +2 vs +3 i guess :P
10:18 <amateurhour> EPI: cursed items weigh more
10:18 <{Demo}> trying to remember other bad wrong superstitions
10:18 <aoei> yea that's a good point lux
10:18 <{Demo}> but my brain has blocked out most of them because they were wrong
10:18 <rld> <@luxidream> stenno: higher EV
10:18 <rld> <@luxidream> +3
10:18 <aoei> do u science lux
10:18 <rld> <@luxidream> I am undergraduate
10:19 <aoei> yea i know
10:19 <aoei> what major
10:19 <stenno> @luxidream as illit?
10:19 <rld> <@luxidream> higher expected value = gooder
10:19 <aoei> yea i agree with lux
10:19 <rld> <@luxidream> meteorology major
10:19 <aoei> ah
10:19 <aoei> neat
10:19 <{Demo}> figure out how the gov controls the weather
10:19 <{Demo}> and make it warm again plz
10:19 * aoei did chem (undergrad and phd)
10:20 <{Demo}> yesterday was the first warm day in a while and it was awesome!
10:20 <rld> <@luxidream> finished it already so I’m taking cs classes right now
10:20 <aoei> nice
10:20 <stenno> @luxidream if you re so smart, tell me why is it both snowing and raining at the same time right now
10:20 <aoei> i never took any classes on that but i do a fair bit of programming
10:20 <stenno> shouldn't it be only one of the two
10:20 <aoei> stenno: lmao
10:20 <stenno> how is that possible 
10:21 <aoei> oh is it a serious question
10:21 <aoei> i thought you were trolling lmao
10:21 <stenno> well i was wondering that earlier
10:21 <stenno> its actually like that right now
10:21 <stenno> i went outside and wondered that
10:21 <rld> <@luxidream> stenno: because winter precip is weird
10:21 <stenno> ok.
10:21 <aoei> i would guess it's to do with a mixture of different temps at different altitudes or some shit
10:21 <rld> <@luxidream> snow requires a pretty specific temperature at a specific height
10:22 <aoei> a lot of it hovering somewhere above and below 0
10:22 <aoei> but pressure also changes freezing point
10:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] arnibald (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:14368
10:22 <amateurhour> LMAO the study of meteors is such a weird subject to pick
10:22 <aoei> which makes it even more complicated i guess
10:22 <stenno> so the snow comes from different clouds than the rain?
10:22 <aoei> amateurhour: ahahahaha
10:22 <stenno> different in altitiude
10:23 <stenno> so could there technically be like even more types of precipitation at the same time
10:23 <stenno> like snow + hail + rain + graupel
10:23 <aoei> yea well im not the expert here but i guess that would make senes
10:23 <aoei> sense*
10:23 <aoei> lux we need u
10:24 <stenno> those are important questions
10:24 <aoei> very important!
10:24 <rld> <@luxidream> If I had to guess then some of it is melting before it reaches the ground
10:24 <rld> <@luxidream> but idk it’s hard for forecasters to identify types of winter precipitation
10:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:41826
10:25 <rld> <@luxidream> sometimes they look almost the same
10:25 <aoei> i was also thinking something simple like that too haha (i honsetly was im not just pretending to be smart like lux)
10:26 <stenno> how can you even literally forecast a chaotic system like cloud movement
10:26 <stenno> must be insane math
10:26 <stenno> fluid dynamics shit
10:26 <aoei> i guess what you can do is extremely limited
10:26 <rld> <@luxidream> There was a dynamics class
10:26 <rld> <@luxidream> It was hell
10:26 <aoei> which is why it never fucking snows when my phone says it's gonna >:C
10:27 <stenno> i implemented some fluid dynamics cellular automaton as a layman and it was pretty cool
10:27 <stenno> i assume the devil is in the details
10:27 <stenno> but i made some pretty shapes
10:27 <aoei> nice
10:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41936
10:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:47363
10:28 <stenno> looked like that https://www.fourmilab.ch/cellab/manual/figures/rugbleach.png
10:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:47369
10:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 223 points, T:313, killed by a crossbow bolt
10:33 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Glasya, on T:42196
10:35 <aoei> !rng code | code | nh
10:35 <Beholder> aoei: nh
10:36 <aoei> !rng code | code | code | nh
10:36 <Beholder> aoei: code
10:36 <aoei> ok Beholder
10:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 227 points, T:357, killed by an uninjured hobbit
10:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh363] infinigon (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:34843
10:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed crystal ball", on T:43190
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10:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:43525
11:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) averted death (choked on a lizard corpse), on T:49228
11:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:43686
11:05 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:49574
11:05 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:49575
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11:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Campos (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:43462
11:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:41091
11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [sp] cilantro (Sam Elf Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a human zombie, on T:27864
11:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:50130
11:40 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:50155
11:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) averted death (killed by wounded Famine), on T:50183
11:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58395
11:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:58396
11:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:58419
11:45 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) averted death (killed by wounded Famine), on T:50220
11:48 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine (5 times), on T:50242
11:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 143 points, T:687, killed by a killer bee
11:53 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine (10 times), on T:50314
11:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:50346
11:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) averted death (killed by wounded Famine), on T:50393
11:57 <rld> <@nabru> !booze
11:57 * Beholder passes @nabru a pint of booze, prayed over by Announcy at 77 degrees Celsius.
12:01 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 4124404 points, T:50451, ascended
12:01 <Beholder> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/p0werm0de/nethack/dumplog/1609532565.nh.html
12:01 <rld> <@p0werm0de> phew
12:02 <rld> <@nabru> gg @p0werm0de!
12:04 <aoei> @luxidream if gdq is your alt too, then the only human players faster than me are you and stenno for 36x, and you+stenno+microlance for nh 370 :3
12:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11077
12:07 <rld> <@luxidream> gdq is also my alt yes
12:07 <rld> <@luxidream> i ragequit on that account because I was dying too much
12:07 <aoei> was just testing some stuff, gonna update the main scoreboard page in a minute
12:07 <rld> <@luxidream> grats powermode
12:08 <aoei> gg p0werm0de
12:08 <aoei> i should link some of these alts too to clean up the leaderboard
12:08 <tinklebear> !streak p0werm0de
12:08 <Beholder> tinklebear: [hdf-eu] p0werm0de Max[nh370]: 1 (2020-12-16 - 2020-12-19). Current[nh370]: 1 (since 2021-01-01).
12:08 <rld> <@luxidream> I am gdq, valkgdq, luxidream2, dalles
12:09 <aoei> they're case-sensitive btw
12:09 <rld> <@luxidream> ValkGDQ, gdq, luxidream2, dalles
12:09 <aoei> cool, thanks
12:10 <rld> <@luxidream> also streaks are still broken but you probably knew that
12:10 <aoei> nah i thought i fixed that
12:11 <rld> <@luxidream> no active streaks for valk
12:11 <rld> <@luxidream> valkGDQ
12:11 <rld> <@luxidream> won the last four games though
12:11 <aoei> huh
12:11 <aoei> damn
12:12 <aoei> ok i guess i got some more stuff to figure out lol
12:12 <amateurhour> new streaks aren't registered basically
12:12 <amateurhour> malor has a 4 streak in dnh for example that's missing
12:13 <aoei> yeah
12:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 36144 points, T:12057, killed by a barrow wight
12:13 <aoei> someone mentioned it about dnethack and i thought something was broken specifically with dNetHack
12:13 <aoei> but nope
12:13 <aoei> it's broad-spectrum
12:13 <aoei> i wonder what's causing it
12:13 <aoei> will try to investigate
12:17 <aoei> oh and @luxidream the servers matter too, are ValkGDQ and gdq only on NAO?
12:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2123
12:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) became Ishtar's Envoy of Balance, on T:21373
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12:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 bone helm of opposite alignment", on T:44684
12:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44749
12:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:44959
12:31 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:45010
12:31 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed Death, on T:45014
12:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nob Hlf Fem Cha), 7565500 points, T:45025, ascended
12:34 <Beholder> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1609246825.dnh.txt
12:39 <rld> <@luxidream> aoei: yes
12:39 <rld> <@nabru> gg microlance!
12:39 <tinklebear> I have no idea what I just watched, microlance, but that was pretty cool!
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12:43 <amateurhour> gratz microlance
12:44 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:42909
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12:45 <spleen> Good day all.
12:46 <tinklebear> good $time_of_the_day, spleen
12:46 <spleen> I have a question about XON/XOFF.
12:46 <spleen> WHen I play on alt.org, I get nethack messages about ^S and ^Q being invalid commands.
12:46 <aoei> good day spleen
12:47 <spleen> But on hardfought I am always pressing them by mistake and pausing my terminal
12:47 <spleen> Is there a nethack setting that controls this?
12:47 <spleen> Or dgamelaunch? Where is this behaviour set?
12:48 <spleen> I ask because I am trying to set up my own dgl, and I want to disable this becuase I dislike it.
12:48 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh343] OhNoNotAgain (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 32437 points, T:12696, petrified by a chickatrice corpse
12:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3478
12:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:4166
12:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3482
12:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 15 darts named uc on an altar, on T:3486
12:50 <spleen> I see in the wiki it is possible to disable them in unix, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Lessons_learned_the_hard_way but I am not changing anything locally. I can ssh to alt.org and ^S/^Q are ignored
12:50 <spleen> And then logout and login to hardfought and now the same keystrokes are pause and resume commands.
12:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed Okjubre's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3519
12:51 <spleen> Or is this a 3.6 vs 3.7 thing?
12:52 <spleen> Any insight into how XON/XOFF are handled by a dgamelauch setup would be helpful.
12:52 <spleen> I will keep googling... :)
12:53 <spontiff> If kerio is still about somewhere I bet he'd know, spleen
12:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 15010 points, T:40477, killed by a captain
12:54 <spleen> thanks, spontiff. I'll reach out to him my own searching doesn't help
12:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 709 points, T:4217, killed by a rabid rat
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4028
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:4033
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4128
12:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Mog, on T:39549
12:58 <paxed> spleen: it's a dgamelaunch config option
12:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Okjubre's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4786
12:59 <spleen> paxed, thank you
12:59 <spleen> !!!!
13:00 <paxed> K2: add flowcontrol = no to the dgl config, so xon/xoff are disabled
13:00 * K2 nods
13:00 <K2> i remember the cfg comment saying 'do not turn this off'
13:00 <K2> why :)
13:02 <paxed> K2: uh. it doesn't say anything like that in the conf file?
13:02 <spleen> # Should dgl allow XON/XOFF? Default is "yes", meaning "don't touch it". # "no" disables XON/XOFF #flowcontrol = no
13:03 <K2> yeah that
13:03 <hothraxxa> that is an odd comment
13:03 <spleen> yes it is
13:03 <K2> spleen beat me to it
13:04 <paxed> how is that odd?
13:04 <K2> https://github.com/altorg/dgamelaunch/blob/master/examples/dgamelaunch.conf#L97
13:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:6143
13:04 <hothraxxa> default is "yes" meaning "don't touch it" is unclear to me
13:04 <K2> 'Default is "yes", meaning "don't touch it" <--- to me that means exactly what it says
13:04 <K2> dont - touch - it
13:04 <K2> so i didnt
13:04 <hothraxxa> well i can see how you'd reach that conclusion
13:05 <paxed> meaning dgl-won't-touch-it
13:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:39898
13:05 <K2> thats not what that means :)
13:05 <tinklebear> but it's in double quotes -- it is being addressed to dgamelaunch, not the admin
13:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:5524
13:05 <K2> i dont have a problem disabling flowcontrol, i just want some kind of understanding
13:06 <tinklebear> it's what the admin says to dgamelaunch with the default
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13:08 <hothraxxa> it should be replaced with an unamiguous "default is yes meaning dgl will honour flow control" or similar
13:08 <hothraxxa> the second sentence is unamiguous
13:08 <K2> ok flowcontrol = no on all hardfought servers now
13:08 <hothraxxa> jeus who stole my b key
13:08 <spleen> I just tested it on my dgl server. with 'flowcontrol = no' nethack tells me ^S and ^Q are invalid commands, instead of my terminal getting paused.
13:08 <hothraxxa> oh there it is
13:09 <spleen> Thank you all!!!
13:09 <K2> if you're still logged into dgl, logout and log back in
13:09 <K2> for it to take affect for you
13:09 <spleen> thank you for changing it here too :)
13:09 <K2> np
13:09 <tinklebear> K2: this is how tyranny begins
13:09 <tinklebear> first you come for my flow control... what's next, eh/
13:09 <tinklebear> ?
13:09 <K2> tinklebear your words frighten and cofuse my primitive caveman brain
13:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1899
13:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2864
13:10 * tinklebear makes soothing gestures in K2's direction
13:11 <spleen> don't worry, I don't want anything else, just no flow control! :)
13:11 <K2> :P
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13:12 <paxed> K2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkEs-IaX1Cc
13:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6115
13:12 <K2> lol
13:12 <K2> paxed knows what i like
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13:14 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3949 points, T:2997, killed by a heavily wounded owlbear
13:17 <aoei> @luxidream check out the RT leaderboard page now
13:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1236 points, T:1864, killed by an ape
13:17 <K2> dNetHack updated (all servers)
13:25 <stenno> oho should i be scared, 15 minutes off my record
13:25 <stenno> maybe not
13:25 <stenno> i will wait until you get better and then crush all your hopes
13:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7314
13:25 <aoei> lmao
13:25 <aoei> let's see about that :V
13:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:31191
13:26 <stenno> didn't even try to speedrun with that tou, it just happened
13:27 <aoei> heh
13:27 <aoei> cool
13:27 <stenno> ikr
13:27 <aoei> until recently my best time was 3h58min with a 343 valk
13:27 <aoei> that one just happened somiehow
13:27 <aoei> lol
13:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by wounded Juiblex), on T:7486
13:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 8488 points, T:7494, killed by heavily wounded Juiblex
13:28 <rld> <@the_eternal_paradox> grrrr demon gating
13:28 <aoei> im also #10 for gametime on 34x, #3 for 36x
13:28 <aoei> er, #4 for 36x (#3 human)
13:29 <stenno> pretty sure the BH accounts in 3.4.3 are bothack instances
13:30 <aoei> ah yeah
13:30 <amateurhour> 15th for 3.7 realtime baybeee
13:30 <aoei> that makes sense
13:30 <aoei> i should group them
13:30 <stenno> i am 6th in 3.4.3 realtime excluding bots
13:30 <amateurhour> alll but 14 of you should bow before my godlike time of 8h 29m
13:30 <stenno> only big names before me
13:31 <stenno> adeon, scorchgeek, tariru, maud, cow9
13:32 <aoei> misha beat me by 2 minutes for realtime on 343
13:32 <misha> i did?
13:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:5448
13:32 <aoei> yeah check it out
13:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3005
13:32 <aoei> https://nethackscoreboard.org/realtime.nh34x.html
13:32 <aoei> devnull game
13:33 <stenno> i thought they were much faster
13:33 <aoei> do you want it to show as misha
13:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3064
13:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:31619
13:33 <misha> hm, i think someone else owns 'misha' on NAO, would that matter?
13:34 <misha> stenno: i won a faster game on acehack but not vanilla
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13:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5535
13:34 <aoei> misha: ah yeah that would a bit
13:34 <stenno> i see
13:34 <aoei> misha: up to you you can leave it with the old nick or have it mapped to something else
13:35 <misha> leave it on the old nick for now but i'll think about it, thanks :)
13:35 <aoei> kk
13:35 <aoei> Adeon: is alice on devnull also you?
13:35 <Adeon> yes
13:35 <aoei> i figured as much lol
13:35 <Adeon> my secret identities are being uncovered
13:36 <Adeon> this is bad
13:36 <aoei> ahhaha
13:36 <Adeon> I think I have one secret identity that nobody actually figured out
13:36 <aoei> stenno: PogChamp is you isn't it
13:36 <amateurhour> !tell LarienTelrunya could the slethe esm thing get xlogfiles made? 
13:36 <Beholder> I'm on it, amateurhour.
13:36 <Adeon> but the achievements on that one aren't so good
13:36 <aoei> Adeon: lol
13:36 <Adeon> I think there's an 8 streak or something
13:36 <misha> when they are it's obvious it's you
13:36 <stenno> yes, and thats grouped alredy
13:36 <amateurhour> we already know Adeon 
13:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:4010
13:36 <amateurhour> you are Tariru
13:36 <aoei> stenno: apparently not
13:36 <aoei> stenno: I see a separate PogChamp entry on the RT page
13:36 <aoei> ah maybe because it's on ascension.run
13:36 <Adeon> ah 9-streak
13:36 <stenno> PogChamp/nao
13:37 <stenno> is grouped to me
13:37 <aoei> yea is PogChamp/asc also you?
13:37 <Adeon> no
13:37 <stenno> oh idk
13:37 <aoei> Adeon: was asking stenno
13:37 <aoei> stenno: lol 
13:37 <aoei> i'll just leave it if you're not sure
13:37 <stenno> yeah
13:38 <stenno> if yes i probably only played that during junethack at the same time i played on NAO
13:38 <stenno> with pogchamp
13:39 <stenno> er
13:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2141
13:39 <stenno> PogChamp/nao has no games 
13:39 <stenno> like a ps3
13:40 <aoei> it was in june
13:40 <stenno> so i assume the asc account is mine
13:40 <aoei> june '15 to be exact
13:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32196
13:40 <aoei> i linked it
13:41 <stenno> yes it was mine
13:41 <stenno> that was the year i played with attie
13:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2579 points, T:4792, killed by an uninjured gnome, while frozen by a potion
13:41 <aoei> cool
13:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 237 points, T:802, killed by a hobbit
13:42 <stenno> my only ascension and then we both kinda stopped playing lol;
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13:42 <aoei> grouping the bot accts moves you up to #8 for 343
13:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8468
13:42 <aoei> unless HDFBot is also BotHack...
13:42 <aoei> that might be BotHack too, not sure
13:43 <stenno> it is, because bothack is the only bot which ascends
13:43 <aoei> ah okay lmao
13:43 <aoei> did saiph never win?
13:43 <stenno> no
13:43 <aoei> ah
13:43 <stenno> saiph finished the quest once
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13:44 <aoei> ok, grouped that as well then
13:49 <krm26> Any (Evilhack) suggestions for an NPC wearing both reflection and enough good gear that I hit him less than 5% of the time? Debating trying stinking cloud on him. I need his armor soooo badly :-)
13:49 <stenno> kicking bypasses AC
13:49 <krm26> Seriously?
13:49 <krm26> I did not know that
13:50 <krm26> I wonder what kind of kick I have as a centaur
13:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:8856
13:51 <krm26> Looks like I'll be doing 1d3 damage, which admittedly is bigger than 0
13:51 <stenno> maybe that was changed in 3.7
13:51 <krm26> Nethack wiki says kicking requires hitting but has a +1 to hit bonus
13:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Brigand, on T:8871
13:53 <krm26> I wonder if a cockatrice corpse would last long enough for me to get a freak hit before rotting away
13:54 <stenno> yeah no AC check
13:54 <stenno> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/src/dokick.c#L90
13:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3283
13:54 <krm26> Stupid wiki! Guess I'll give it a shot
13:55 <stenno> hmm wait actually
13:55 <stenno> this concerns damage, but not neccessarily to-hit
13:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:43425
13:56 <krm26> Just looked at the code, it does call find_roll_to_hit
13:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 30395 points, T:2652, quit
13:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:9560
13:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3666
13:58 <stenno> krm26: only if upoly
13:58 <stenno> upolyd
13:58 <tinklebear> !whereis krm26
13:58 <Beholder> tinklebear: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Ran Cen Fem Neu) T:28326 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3
13:59 <krm26> I'm sitting at a stash, the invincible reflecting caveman is on 18
13:59 <stenno> so, bypasses find_roll_to_hit _unless_ you are polymorphed into a monster that can kick
13:59 <stenno> kinda strange
14:00 <tinklebear> krm26: do thrown potions only depend on your dex?
14:00 <stenno> otherwise this easily graspable nested ternary comes into effect         if (!rn2((i < j / 10) ? 2 : (i < j / 5) ? 3 : 4)) {
14:01 <stenno> god dammt why does that have to be so overly complicated
14:01 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Swn Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6022
14:01 <amateurhour> it doesn't seem that bad?
14:02 <krm26> Not sure how potions help -- even paralyzed I can't land a hit against this guy. Not enough acid in the world to kill him
14:02 <stenno> amateurhour: this line only takes effect if     if (i < (j * 3) / 10) {
14:03 <stenno> amateurhour: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/0c3b9642e4207ed3c0b756585b83477f59116305/src/dokick.c#L225 ff
14:03 <tinklebear> yeah... i dunno. always a chance you have a lot of oil to burn or something
14:03 <stenno> i'd rather nest a few more ifs than using a single nested ternary
14:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Con Swn Fem Cha), 15522 points, T:6385, killed by a crossbow bolt
14:05 <tinklebear> does evilhack have the blessed scroll of fire thing, where you can direct where it's centered?
14:06 * tinklebear is just flinging noodles at the wall 
14:06 <krm26> No clue -- but what kind of damage does that dish? Most of those cornercase attacks, like acid, do something like 1d10 tops
14:06 <tinklebear> good question
14:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 10 points, T:181, killed by a falling rock
14:07 <stenno> the explosion deals 15, 20, or 25 damage.
14:08 <stenno> not a fan of kicking then?
14:08 <krm26> I'm going to give it a shot, but without getting to wear boots I'm not sure it is going to help much
14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 71 points, T:174, killed by a scroll of earth
14:09 <krm26> Will report back
14:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3252
14:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Mother Hydra, on T:33368
14:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:33372
14:11 <hothraxxa> centaur players should get at least a 1d6 kicking attack. centaur monsters do
14:11 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 284 points, T:830, killed by a wand
14:11 <krm26> Kicking hits. Man I wish I had a stethescope, this guy is such a vegetable
14:12 <tinklebear> lol.
14:12 <krm26> stenno: You are the winner! 25 kicks or so did it
14:12 <hothraxxa> he has 216 hp and is wearing an amulet of life saving
14:12 <krm26> SDSM, dragonide walking shoes I can't use, and what I pray is a MR cloak
14:12 <stenno> nice!
14:12 <tinklebear> watch all his ac be due to the boots
14:12 <krm26> Plus like 8 wands he expended on me
14:13 <hothraxxa> break them!
14:13 <hothraxxa> no wait
14:13 <stenno> its so stupid that it bypasses any AC check when you are not poly'd, but checks for find_roll_to_hit when you are poly'd
14:13 <krm26> Yeah, that is 100% a bug
14:14 <tinklebear> now we know why priests kick
14:14 <krm26> Or I guess a lazily-implemented kicking boots effectiveness mechanism
14:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 30560 points, T:10203, murdered by a leocrotta
14:15 <krm26> Thanks again stenno, kicking would never have occurred to me in a million turns
14:15 <stenno> np, glad it worked out
14:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7468 points, T:5556, killed by an uninjured snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze
14:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4471
14:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "3 uncursed potions of gain level", on T:44237
14:19 <mobileuser> you didn't have a wand of cancellation krm26?
14:19 <krm26> No sir
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4026
14:19 <mobileuser> ah shame
14:19 <mobileuser> nice trick, the kicking! :-)
14:19 <krm26> My toolkit was my hooves, the useless longbow of Diana, and a pointy spear from my god
14:20 <krm26> All he did was zap or it wouldn't have been possible... K2 really needs to have the NPCs figure out you have reflection after the first couple of zaps
14:20 <mobileuser> I wonder, if you enchant a bow to +7 and your arrows, is that +14 to hit?
14:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4142
14:21 <stenno> nah don't fix the bypass AC thing
14:22 <stenno> its a nice desperation measure
14:22 <amateurhour> yeah
14:22 <krm26> I wish the NPCs starved, could have left him in a boulder fort and come back to pick his bones later
14:23 <aoei> stenno: what was the relevant bit of code?
14:23 <aoei> taht's kinda fun, i also had no idea
14:23 <krm26> In dokick.c
14:23 <stenno> maybe having a poly'd monster with an actual (d,d) kick attack bypass AC would be too OP
14:23 <mobileuser> +1d5 to hit for longbow of diana, enchant bow and arrows to max. maybe not so useless in evilhack...
14:25 <krm26> Bows are just SO BAD because of ammo recovery issues
14:26 <aoei> yea it becomes annoying at some point
14:27 <aoei> ranger is still really badass for the early game because of bow damage output
14:27 <tinklebear> krm26: do you mean the mulching thing where arrows disappear, or do you mean that you have to go pick up the missiles afterwards?
14:27 <krm26> Yeah, burning through those initial arrows is very powerful
14:27 <aoei> if you're a theist you can sac for an artiweapon before you run out of arrows and be fine
14:27 <aoei> atheists have a slightly harder time
14:27 <krm26> You can minimize breakage, but dealing with environmental loss is often impractical
14:28 <aoei> but i usually change to melee build at some stage
14:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:3161
14:28 <krm26> I assume everyone does? I am rarely using the longbow right now and I'm swinging a spear Venus gave me at the very beginning of the game
14:29 <tinklebear> still at +3?
14:29 <krm26> +3 steel
14:29 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3361
14:29 <krm26> I was excited to finally pull a short sword off an NPC but it was +0
14:29 <tinklebear> lol
14:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3438
14:30 <krm26> My main weapon for the middle game was a stack of +0 steel daggers
14:30 <tinklebear> what do you think of polearms, krm26?
14:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2312
14:30 <krm26> I'd love to try one out since I'm a centaur with free jumps, but I haven't seen a single one
14:30 <tinklebear> aw, that sucks. hope you find a good one
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14:31 <krm26> This is my second EvilHack game in a row with no stethescope before the castle, that is far and away the worst screw in my current game
14:31 <krm26> When your character sucks donkey balls the stethescope is invaluable
14:32 <tinklebear> I'll trade you one of my stethoscopes for a blindfold
14:32 <krm26> DONE
14:32 <tinklebear> awesome. now where's that swap chest...
14:32 <krm26> Poor blindfolds, rendered totally obsolete by simple towels
14:32 <krm26> So my smoky potion this game is...ACID
14:32 <stenno> they are cheaper
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14:33 <tinklebear> and just a little lighter
14:33 <tinklebear> (I think)
14:33 <krm26> I'm going to be abusing my constitution a lot
14:34 <tinklebear> (er, nope. blindfold and towel weigh the same, according to my old notes.)
14:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 80180 points, T:26529, killed by a minotaur
14:35 <tinklebear> also, I seem to remember dipping a towel into (what I was quite sure was) holy water, and it just got wet
14:36 <tinklebear> if I didn't totally misunderstand that event, then, blindfolds are easier to bless
14:36 <stenno> if that was the case, it was a bug
14:37 <stenno> holy water should never behave like wate
14:37 <stenno> r
14:37 <tinklebear> i agree, stenno. but I may have simply mis-BUC identified the clear potion i used
14:37 <tinklebear> otoh, I'm usually pretty careful about that
14:37 <tinklebear> (pretty sure this was during tnnt)
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14:38 <misha> maybe something cursed your inventory and unblessed the potion?
14:38 <tinklebear> misha: totally possible.
14:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Mon Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an apple on an altar, on T:3160
14:38 <tinklebear> next time I've got holy water to burn, I'll do some more careful testing...
14:39 <tinklebear> oh, and a damn towel
14:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:477
14:39 <krm26> I've dipped hundreds of towels into holy water without issue
14:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Mon Hum Mal Law), 2915 points, T:3452, killed by an uninjured hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze
14:39 <tinklebear> towel-haver rubbing it in, I see!
14:40 <krm26> I rub my towels a lot
14:40 <tinklebear> lol
14:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:5161
14:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2551 points, T:3227, killed by a wounded fire ant
14:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] x86Cow (Val Dwa Fem Law), 352 points, T:913, killed by an uninjured gecko, while fainted from lack of food
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14:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) became Venus' Envoy of Balance, on T:29076
14:46 <stenno> tinklebear: actually if you dip a blessed towel into a holy potion, you will get the message  pline_The("towel soaks it up!");, with no further effect
14:46 <krm26> Oh F and your useless stupid vorpal blade Venus
14:46 <stenno> actually your holy potion does get used up?
14:46 <tinklebear> yeah, that is what i observed
14:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed the invisible Bael, on T:59897
14:47 <tinklebear> or, I mean, that is the message i saw (pretty sure)
14:47 <amateurhour> a vorpal in the hand is worth two in the bush
14:47 <krm26> Agree to disagree
14:47 <stenno> yes it does!
14:47 <stenno> thats a bug too though
14:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:42609
14:47 <amateurhour> can't be beheaded by a vorpal blade the enemy doesn't have
14:47 <stenno> hmm
14:47 <tinklebear> stenno: so I guess that means the towel was already blessed?
14:47 <stenno> yes
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14:48 <tinklebear> ah. this is good to know!
14:48 <tinklebear> thx!
14:48 <stenno> dipping a blessed towel into a potion of holy water uses up the holy water
14:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:58651
14:48 <stenno> towel soaks it up
14:48 <stenno> could argue if that is a bug or not
14:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:58652
14:49 <stenno> thats the only situation that comes to mind where non-uncursed water behaves like water
14:49 <tinklebear> well, it was certainly unexpected. I often dip suspected blessed/cursed things into holy/unholy water respectively, to ensure that their BUC is what i want
14:49 <tinklebear> won't be doing it with towels, though!
14:49 <stenno> hah
14:51 <Umbire_> @luxidream time?
14:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed the invisible Alrunes, on T:59934
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14:51 <aoei> @luxidream: doing maintenance on NHS, it won't show up for a bit
14:51 <aoei> sorry
14:52 <rld> <@luxidream> 1:18
14:52 <rld> <@luxidream> pretty decent
14:52 <aoei> nice
14:52 <aoei> gg
14:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:6103
14:55 <Umbire> Nice
14:56 <jilles> krm26, an alternative NPC kill method would be drowning them
14:56 <rld> <@luxidream> I think that's wr for 3.6
14:56 <rld> <@luxidream> not going to submit though
14:57 <stenno> who cares about 3.6 anywy
14:57 <aoei> lux: NHS has a 3.6.3 game of yours with 1h10min
14:57 <rld> <@luxidream> oh lol that's my first successful wow game
14:57 <rld> <@luxidream> never mind
14:59 <krm26> jilles: No water on the level, and recovering gear can be challenging -- but how do you displace them over water?
15:00 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Hum Fem Cha) stole 151 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Maganasipi's general store, on T:1218
15:01 <amateurhour> freeze water and melt it I guess
15:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7099
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15:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:45117
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7766
15:09 <krm26> This game's shamblnig horror: crushing, tentacle sucking, sickness :-(  You cannot escape from the shambling horror!
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:63551
15:10 <krm26> Barely escaped with enough intelligence left to untie my shoes
15:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:7959
15:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an arrow on an altar, on T:7962
15:10 <krm26> Barely escaped with enough intelligence left to untie my shoes
15:11 <aoei> ouch
15:11 <rld> <@the_eternal_paradox> ok uh I somehow have a tame pyrolisk now
15:11 <rld> <@the_eternal_paradox> name ideas anyone?
15:11 <amateurhour> spyro
15:11 <krm26> Sparky
15:11 <aoei> Hawt
15:11 <aoei> maybe Hawtie
15:11 <jilles> krm26, dig down on a fountain (but there may not be a fountain on the level or the next)
15:11 <rld> <@the_eternal_paradox> pfff
15:12 <jilles> and then indeed freeze it and melt it when they're on it
15:12 <aoei> ThisPetisOnFire
15:12 <aoei> or MyPetisOnFire
15:12 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 274 points, T:1248, killed by a boiling potion
15:12 <rld> <@the_eternal_paradox> actually that's kinda funny
15:13 <krm26> Ah, I inherited an Arahael bones shambling horror
15:14 <krm26> "disintegrated by a beholder"
15:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Student of Waters, on T:30026
15:14 <krm26> But the most important thing, Arahael had a stethescope
15:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8248
15:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:43222
15:16 <aoei> oh, nice find
15:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (leprechauns), on T:24204
15:16 <aoei> ok i think i shall go for my nightly stroll while the NHS updates
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15:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:43524
15:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:43525
15:21 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:45399
15:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7407
15:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:9528
15:26 <rld> <@the_eternal_paradox> wow now he's a stone giant
15:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:37071
15:27 <amateurhour> Tony the stony
15:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:60306
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15:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Daemon, on T:37272
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15:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Wayfarer, on T:29480
15:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:37573
15:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:60212
15:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 7331 points, T:11638, killed by a wounded barrow wight, while praying
15:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:7848
15:37 <K2> krm26 - monsters are aware if they see you resist <something> and will switch attacks accordingly. because reflection is never 100%, reflected attacks can still do damage, and will still be used 
15:37 <K2> *some reflected attacks
15:37 <K2> like magic missile, wand of death
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15:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a mountain nymph, on T:3614
15:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class c), on T:45650
15:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:45652
15:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40645
15:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:40734
15:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:40753
15:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:60477
15:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the White Horse, on T:60478
15:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3127
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15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:60524
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Black Horse, on T:60524
16:02 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3317
16:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:60576
16:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the saddled Pale Horse, on T:60577
16:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "+3 blessed gray dragon scale mail", on T:8716
16:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:41527
16:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3721
16:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3721
16:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5124151 points, T:60601, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/VaderFLAG/evilhack/dumplog/1609341881.evil.html
16:07 <mobileuser> congrats vaderflag!
16:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiterer, on T:8807
16:09 <K2> \o/
16:09 <K2> is that the first ever lawful valk evilhack asc?
16:10 <mobileuser> first dwarf I think?
16:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Pestilence, on T:41725
16:11 <mobileuser> I did a lawful human valk 
16:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:11058
16:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) destroyed Famine, on T:41791
16:13 <amateurhour> gratz VaderFLAG !
16:13 <tinklebear> woah. congratulations, VaderFLAG
16:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4974
16:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) destroyed Death, on T:41851
16:14 <VaderFLAG> :D
16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5004
16:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a broad short sword named Thorn on an altar, on T:5013
16:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu), 5341686 points, T:41875, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1609591318.dnh.txt
16:16 <arahael> oh, wow! VaderFLAG! congrats!
16:16 <amateurhour> gratz malor!
16:16 <rld> <@malor> thanks.
16:16 <rld> <@malor> congrats VaderFLAG
16:16 <Umbire> GG VaderFLAG 
16:16 <Umbire> and malor
16:16 <Umbire> (as usual)
16:17 <VaderFLAG> You too!
16:17 <rld> <@malor> thanks.  I'm running pretty hot, as long as Vlad actually has the amulet, right now.
16:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:46920
16:17 <aoei> gg malor
16:17 <rld> <@malor> thanks
16:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 22080 points, T:12426, quit
16:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Dresser, on T:46942
16:21 <tinklebear> !booze malor
16:21 * Beholder delivers malor a schooner of the sauce, fermented by NotTheOracle\dnt at 17 degrees Fahrenheit.
16:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3398
16:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4721
16:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4977
16:24 <rld> <@malor> thanks
16:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3654
16:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Medicus ossium, on T:47200
16:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 656 points, T:1934, killed by an uninjured dwarf
16:26 <K2> @malor congrats!!
16:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 daggers on an altar, on T:4580
16:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 10361 points, T:5996, defeated by a leocrotta
16:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed wintergalaxy88's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:1160
16:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2024 points, T:2088, quit
16:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed wintergalaxy88's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:885
16:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:9192
16:44 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: spontiff]
16:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2720
16:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1639
16:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2348
16:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:10289
16:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Kostchtchie, on T:60769
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10780
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 6242 points, T:10705, killed by an uninjured invisible master lich, while praying
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17:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) had a pair of boxing gloves entrusted to him by Ishtar, on T:25388
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1790
17:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:10242
17:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1941 points, T:1885, killed by a boulder
17:09 <FIQ> aosdict: if you cause a temple to zap a bolt of lightning, should you be credited for anything that bolt happens to kill?
17:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 6906 points, T:4396, inhumed by an invisible vampire mage
17:11 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:10391
17:11 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 3685 points, T:6662, killed by a small dart
17:12 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Ran Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:11095
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17:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Sam Hum Mal Law), 144 points, T:313, killed by a heavily wounded brown mold
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17:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed quervo1's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2828
17:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1178 points, T:2913, killed by a wounded pony
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17:23 <stenno> FIQ: no
17:24 <FIQ> stenno: but you are currently being credited for a pissed off god if engulfed
17:24 <FIQ> isn't that the same?
17:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1335
17:27 <stenno> if you get wadb'd specifically
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17:30 <FIQ> stenno: yes exactly
17:30 <FIQ> isn't that the same thing? credit-wise I mean
17:30 <FIQ> either both should credit you, or none should
17:33 <stenno> well its really difficult to get wadb
17:33 <stenno> however you automatically get lightning'd when entering molochs sanctum temple
17:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:61647
17:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver amulet called esp on an altar, on T:7637
17:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3025
17:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3080
17:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65186
17:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:65192
17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:65208
17:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:65304
17:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:65309
17:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4116
17:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha), 7527 points, T:3560, inhumed by a filth dragon
17:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a lizard corpse on an altar of Crom, on T:4284
17:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4393
17:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:5528
17:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed]
17:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu) received Mjollnir from Odin, on T:11593
17:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 34 points, T:131, killed by a wounded grid bug
17:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:6151
18:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4640
18:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] BifphWombat (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1640
18:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4762
18:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1903 points, T:4764, killed by an uninjured watchman
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1394 points, T:13022, quit
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1394 points, T:12812, quit
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 348 points, T:1504, killed by a wounded kitten
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1394 points, T:12812, quit
18:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 11130 points, T:8270, killed by an uninjured wererat, while frozen by a monster's gaze
18:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1661
18:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 181 points, T:775, killed by an uninjured hobbit
18:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1765
18:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1493 points, T:1691, killed by an uninjured crocodile
18:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 649 points, T:2171, killed by an uninjured gnome
18:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Okjubre's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1324
18:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 862 points, T:2005, killed by an uninjured sewer rat
18:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1394 points, T:2124, killed by an uninjured little dog
18:28 <rld> <@nabru> ! lastgame nabru
18:28 <Beholder> @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1609629349.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1605872855.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt
18:31 <Umbire> Time? @luxidream
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18:32 <aoei> lol another one
18:32 <aoei> sweet
18:32 <aoei> im really sorry about the streaks thing btw
18:33 <aoei> still haven't figured out what's wrong
18:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6571
18:35 <rld> <@luxidream> Another 1:27
18:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3342
18:38 <aoei> 5-streak?
18:38 <rld> <@luxidream> 6-streak
18:39 <aoei> :o
18:39 <aoei> :PogChamp: \o\ /o/
18:40 <aoei> im not being very poggers rn
18:40 <aoei> instead of fixing streaks or ascending sub-3h
18:40 <aoei> i am drinking beer and preparing to watch scott pilgrim vs the world
18:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:45304
18:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 671 points, T:1932, killed by an uninjured gnome lord
18:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:45359
18:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:1327
18:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] kalik (Con Hlf Mal Cha), 58 points, T:165, killed by an iron ball collision
18:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Bar Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1508
18:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] kalik (Con Hlf Mal Cha), 50 points, T:213, killed by an iron ball collision
18:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] kalik (Nob Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:6, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
18:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:984
18:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Mage, on T:65408
19:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 981 points, T:1642, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse
19:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Gno Fem Neu) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:3601
19:01 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12768
19:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] kalik (Arc Hum Mal Law), 304 points, T:203, killed by an acid blob
19:02 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an energy vortex), on T:12770
19:02 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh343] OhNoNotAgain (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1697
19:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1464
19:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 511376 points, T:46381, killed by an uninjured troll
19:04 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:12887
19:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh343] OhNoNotAgain (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 553 points, T:1797, killed by a crossbow bolt
19:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:6301
19:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha), 2930 points, T:1665, struck down by a gnome king, while unconscious from rotten food
19:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:65515
19:08 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a Grey-elf, on T:13008
19:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:7217
19:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:7368
19:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:65677
19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1114
19:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] kalik (Pir Dro Mal Neu), 881 points, T:404, killed by a pony
19:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 135700 points, T:14057, killed by a soldier ant
19:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2277
19:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Arc Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4458
19:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2515 points, T:2608, killed by an uninjured hill orc
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19:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4657529 points, T:65937, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1609360024.nh.html
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19:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3235
19:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:3475
19:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:3683
19:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2770
19:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha), 6992 points, T:3790, exterminated by a tengu
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19:49 <aoei> grats oh6
19:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed the invisible Mother Lilith, on T:61769
19:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed the invisible Zuggtmoy, on T:61795
19:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed quervo1's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3073
20:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3091
20:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:13175
20:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3435
20:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2541 points, T:2809, killed by an enormous rat
20:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:32831
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20:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 760 points, T:2198, killed by a rock piercer
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20:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:13810
20:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:1912
20:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1886
20:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4 points, T:252, killed by a newt, while reading a book
20:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 654 points, T:799, killed by a small mimic
20:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha), 7974 points, T:2811, slaughtered by a bullet ant
20:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 67 points, T:416, killed by a sewer rat
20:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:33535
20:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 252 points, T:674, killed by a silver dagger
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20:43 <Heliokopis> Hello
20:43 <Beholder> Hello Heliokopis, Welcome to #hardfought
20:45 <Heliokopis> Anyone have advice on how to kill Asmodeus in dnethack?  It has been an epic battle but I can't seem to overcome his ability to heal himself.
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21:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3092
21:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3116
21:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3150
21:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:17116
21:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3746
21:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17348
21:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3283 points, T:4139, killed by a wand
21:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1
21:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:18018
21:22 <arahael> Heliokopis: Usual trick is to stand on the upstairs.
21:22 <arahael> Heliokopis: That's where they go to heal themselves, so if they can't get there...
21:22 <arahael> (That said, I've not played dnethack)
21:22 <aosdict> I wouldn't make any vanilla assumptions about dnh asmodeus.
21:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 253 points, T:771, killed by a gas spore's explosion
21:27 <rld> <@malor> In DNethack all of the Demon/Devil Lords are extremely tough. Asmodeous is the third most powerful and most roles can’t beat him regardless of tactics. Avoiding him or teleporting to another floor, stepping away and teleporting to another floor to strand him somewhere else. If you decide to fight him use the #Ward that works against demon lords.  That will reduce his attacks on you a ton.  And then you just have to fight for a long time to get
21:27 <rld> through his crazy AC values.
21:28 <rld> <@malor> In general though you can avoid fighting the Lords in DNethack.  I have ascended without fighting any Lords most of the time.
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21:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:1483
21:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 565 points, T:2135, killed by a bolt of fire
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21:37 <Heliokopis> Thank you, Malor.  I am a Samurai and have defeated most of the other devils and demons, though I think a couple remain.  I have been using pentagram and that helps a ton, but my Excalibur and Demonbane sword combination does not seem to do enough damage before he heals himself.
21:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 210 points, T:729, killed by an uninjured brown mold
21:38 <Heliokopis> Maybe I just can't take him but I am a bit determined since he seems rather unable to kill me either.
21:41 <Heliokopis> I do stand on the upstairs with a pentagram ward and he hardly touches me, but unfortunately I can't muster enough damage before he heals.  This is with a +12 Excalibur and a +7 demonbane.  I am not complaining.  Love the challenge but was wondering if I was missing something obvious.  Wonder if potion of paralysis would work.
21:46 <arahael> Can they be leveldrained?
21:48 <Heliokopis> Good question...
21:50 <arahael> Also, again a vanillaism, but sometimes I try vorpy.
21:50 <arahael> aosdict's warning applies, though - I've never done dnethack.
21:50 <aosdict> dnethack has so many artifacts, good luck getting any specific one
21:51 <aosdict> by a non-wish at least
21:51 <rld> <@riker> who are we fighting? asmo?
21:51 <rld> <@riker> easy solution going forwards: don't fight asmodeus lol
21:52 <rld> <@riker> i recommend demonbane + kusanagi no tsurugi in the future, instead of excalibur, since KnT is basically a better excalibur
21:53 <rld> <@riker> note that vorpals in dnethack only deal ~400 damage, so it's not a guaranteed kill when it triggers, but it's not inconsiderable. asmo should have around 1800 max hp? and heals 10d8 roughly every 8 turns?
21:53 <arahael> Yikes.
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21:53 <Umbire> Excuse-fucking-moi??/
21:53 <arahael> Umbire: And we thought K2's evilhack was evil?
21:54 <Umbire> I mean this fight's technically optional
21:54 <Umbire> EvilHack you have to go through ALL of them
21:54 <Umbire> dNetHack's added a fuckton but many can be skipped
21:55 <Heliokopis> Thanks riker.  I have kusanagi, but since excal is +12 I thought it would be better.
21:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:16600
21:56 <rld> <@riker> kusanagi has 10% decap
21:57 <rld> <@riker> probably slightly less without that vs demons with holy damage factored in, but I think the decap is your best bet for dealing damage. hit him enough and you'll eventually get enough damage dealt
21:57 <Heliokopis> Wow..I will switch just for giggles and see what happens.  Also, it is good to know that he only heals what you mention above.  I think I can wear him down.
21:57 <rld> <@riker> well, tha'ts what he should heal i think. he should have cure wounds on his spell list, which is 10d8 iirc, and cast it roughly that often?
21:57 <Heliokopis> You can't imagine how much I have hit him already.  I think you just gave me the key to beating him.
21:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:35745
21:58 <Heliokopis> Really cool, all.  I thank everyone for the comments.  I could have paid him and passed but I was determined to waste him instead.
21:58 <rld> <@riker> yeah heals 10d8, on 1/9 of casts
21:59 <Heliokopis> I have killed level upon level filled with his summoned mobs so much so that I know I have driven a bunch of mobs into extinction.  lol.  It has been a fun game.
21:59 <rld> <@riker> spell list is equal odds of cure self/open wounds/acid rain/lightning/fire pillar/geyser/summon monsters/paralyze/death touch, fwiw
21:59 <{Demo}> that is a sentence that is very dnh
21:59 <rld> <@riker> pro tip: burn a hepta/hexa (whichever one does both & and a lot of other letters too) instead of penta
22:00 <rld> <@riker> penta is just vs & and maybe some others, but hepta/hexa (idr which) is a bit better for his summons
22:00 <rld> <@riker> i believe you learn hepta via crowning
22:00 <Heliokopis> Really?  Oh..I handle his summons with a boulder fort.
22:00 <Heliokopis> Yea I got hepta too.  Great to know riker
22:00 <rld> <@riker> yeah ok " All except: A, o, dwarfs, G, @ "
22:00 <arahael> Heliokopis: Let us know the outcome of this insane battle. :)
22:01 <rld> <@riker> it takes hella more strokes to burn iirc but if you can prep it ahead of time, it's really really good at keeping this away
22:01 <rld> <@riker> *things
22:01 <Heliokopis> What was really fun is killing all the named bastards that he and his minions summoned.
22:01 <Heliokopis> Thanks again, all
22:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1303 points, T:2284, killed by an uninjured dwarf
22:02 <rld> <@riker> elbereth will also scare asmo 1/9 of the time, even if you're not an elf. a full 7x hepta will scare him 7/10 of the time. (penta is 1/9)
22:02 <rld> <@riker> more useful tips! lol
22:03 <Heliokopis> Can you draw a hepta over a penta?
22:03 <aosdict> angles do not work that way
22:03 <rld> <@riker> nope
22:04 <rld> <@riker> you would need to re-earth to do it safely, likely, or retreat up a level without asmo following or something
22:04 <rld> <@riker> burning the hepta would overwrite the penta and leave you vulnerable while you're burning
22:04 <rld> <@riker> just checked - takes 2 turns to burn it at normal speed with a wand of fire
22:05 <Heliokopis> I am ok being vulnerable for that time.  He does not do much damage to me in the open, even.
22:06 <rld> <@riker> yeah asmo isn't super lethal he's just a huge pain to deal with
22:06 <Heliokopis> I don't have kusanagi...
22:06 <rld> <@riker> did you ever name it?
22:06 <Heliokopis> It is a named, isn't it?
22:06 <dk657> sooo should i give dnethack a whirl?
22:06 <rld> <@riker> yeah, it is
22:06 <Heliokopis> yes!  So far it is my favorite var
22:06 <rld> <@riker> dk657 i enjoy it greatly, and I know heliokopis plays it a reasonable amount too. we may be biased
22:07 <rld> <@riker> re: asmo. if i aggro him, 95% of the time, i'll just leave him somewhere. either silver key him to sokoban/the mines/vlad's, or just use cursed GL to get past him in gehennom on the asc run
22:07 <rld> <@riker> once you've killed him a couple times you get bored :p same w/ illurien of the myriad glimpses
22:08 <rld> <@riker> re: kusanagi, if you have any long swords at all just name it. silver/gold will deal a good bit of damage too
22:08 <Heliokopis> So I use any longsword to name it?  Never been much of a named weapon user.  Can't believe I missed that weapon with my sam
22:09 <rld> <@riker> it's really good <3 love it
22:09 <rld> <@riker> and yeah
22:10 <rld> <@riker> if I find one, i'll use a silver/gold one. if I feel like it, i'll sometimes wish for a large/huge golden long sword and offhand martial arts (instead of another artifact weapon)
22:11 <rld> <@riker> note that +12 sword of the deeps into kusanagi is +5 extra vs a normal sword, but silver/gold is +10.5 avg vs demons at the cost of +0 vs other dudes
22:11 <rld> <@riker> i prefer gold (d20 holy damage when blessed) for that reason. works vs both demons & undead, or when cursed vs angels
22:12 <Heliokopis> great info riker...much appreciated.
22:12 <rld> <@riker> i play too much of this godforsaken game
22:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] davidkent (Con Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:313, killed by a goblin
22:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 133 points, T:719, killed by an electric shock
22:15 <Heliokopis> Do you just name it kusanagi?  The full name did not work.
22:16 <rld> <@riker> ... really?
22:16 <rld> <@riker> "Kusanagi no Tsurugi"
22:16 <rld> <@riker> try to rename it something else now
22:16 <rld> <@riker> also looks like it took - unless you included "The" in the name when you named it
22:17 <rld> <@riker> it would've still taken but it'll auto-add "the" if you just name it "kusanagi ..."
22:17 <Heliokopis> I did not put the THE in.
22:17 <rld> <@riker> then it worked!
22:17 <rld> <@riker> you just have to ID the sword
22:17 <rld> <@riker> no go properly ID it. like with a scroll
22:18 <Heliokopis> Strange the descrip of the long sword did not change.
22:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed wintergalaxy88's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1317
22:18 <rld> <@riker> it will once i'ts identified, don't worry
22:18 <Heliokopis> Perfect..it is not showing up as eatable...must be an artifact. :)
22:18 <rld> <@riker> there you go :)
22:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 470 points, T:567, killed by a small dart
22:19 <rld> <@riker> you should still be able to offhand demonbane, fwiw
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22:20 <rld> <@luxidream> really dumb question
22:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1581
22:20 <rld> <@luxidream> I just compiled nethack
22:20 <rld> <@luxidream> where is my rc
22:21 <Heliokopis> Many thanks, riker.  Too fun!
22:21 <aosdict> what os
22:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1152 points, T:1269, killed by a wounded hill orc
22:21 <rld> <@luxidream> linux
22:21 <rld> <@riker> home directory, .nethackrc
22:21 <aosdict> should be ~/.nethackrc
22:22 <rld> <@riker> damn, smoky is polymorph this game
22:22 <rld> <@riker> glad i tested it on a random small club not my stack of daggers
22:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] rikerw (Rog Dro Mal Neu), 334 points, T:915, killed by a dwarf
22:23 <rld> <@riker> nvm it doens't matter
22:23 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 181531 points, T:23290, killed by an invisible human priest called Chris the Curate, while paralyzed by a monster
22:23 <Umbire> @riker F
22:23 <rld> <@luxidream> it should exist already or do I have to make it
22:23 <Umbire> Aw arahael what
22:24 <aosdict> you need to create it
22:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3678 points, T:1798, killed by an uninjured owlbear
22:24 <rld> <@luxidream> ok cool
22:24 <aosdict> nonexistent assumes a blank file basically
22:24 <arahael> Umbire: If I had a ring of free action I'd still be alive.
22:26 <rld> <@riker> ^ half my midgame deaths
22:26 <rld> <@luxidream> Line 25: Window type curses not recognized.  The only choice is: tty.
22:26 <rld> <@luxidream> :((
22:26 <rld> <@riker> what version of nethack are you installing
22:26 <rld> <@luxidream> 3.7.0
22:27 <rld> <@riker> vanilla? ok you'll probably need to patch curses on then? i think I had to
22:27 <Umbire> I still need to do that and adjust my rc a tiny bit
22:27 <rld> <@luxidream> ah ok
22:27 <rld> <@luxidream> I assumed it was part of vanilla already
22:28 <rld> <@riker> i had to install ncurses in my package manager, and edit a config file or 2
22:28 <rld> <@riker> don't remember the details. it migth be a compile time option?
22:28 <rld> <@luxidream> I installed ncurses already
22:28 <rld> <@riker> depending on how you're installing it you could always try installing hardfought 3.7 instead of vanilla
22:28 <rld> <@luxidream> will take another look
22:29 <tinklebear> !booze arahael
22:29 * Beholder delivers arahael a barrel of the hard stuff, excreted by Announcy at 15 degrees Celsius.
22:29 <rld> <@luxidream> yeah that's probably easier actually
22:29 <arahael> tinklebear: I hope that announcy wasn't the NPC Priest that just killed me.
22:29 <rld> <@luxidream> let's do that
22:29 <rld> <@riker> https://github.com/NHTangles/NetHack36
22:29 <rld> <@riker> 3.7-hdf is the master branch and the one you want
22:30 <rld> <@riker> i believe L3 & tangles keep it up to date pretty well
22:31 <rld> <@luxidream> does L3 avoid the ping 🤔
22:31 <rld> <@riker> i have no clue!
22:31 <tinklebear> arahael: no idea who Announcy is. Not Chris the Curate, though!
22:31 <rld> <@riker> if it does then i successfully dodged the K 2-shaped-bullet, if it doesn't then I poke him anyawy. no harm done
22:32 <rld> <@riker> announcy is a different bot
22:32 <tinklebear> ah. thx, riker
22:32 <rld> <@riker> i believe tha'ts the junethack one? not sure.
22:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha), 133 points, T:405, killed by a fox
22:33 <Umbire> Gonna need you to walk me through installing curses in a hot minute, Riker
22:33 <Umbire> half joking but compile-time option, you said?
22:34 <rld> <@riker> ok so like, my computer's installation
22:34 <rld> <@riker> bleh, enter too soon
22:35 <rld> <@riker> my computer's installation is REALLY cursed. like, i have the weirdest things - i was trying to clean out installed packages for kicks yesterday or the day before, and I somehow have coreutils installed via a package manager, and that's the one my computer primarily uses. had to reboot to fix that one after uninstalling it
22:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:63253
22:35 <Umbire> Woof
22:35 <rld> <@riker> among other things, i still don't know what set of libraries clang uses when it compiles things. i had to install like 3 different versions of "libncurses"? and comment out a bunch of things about POSIX style regex?
22:36 <rld> <@riker> i can try to find the txt file i wrote myself, but try to find the patch somewhere first :/ or just use the hdf 3.7
22:37 <arahael> One of these days I need to figure out how to compile the macos version.
22:37 <rld> <@riker> i believe i had to make most of the changes in include/config.h and include/color.h fwiw. along with commenting out the whole "check file permissions on the save" otherwise no matter where i'm running from i'm stuck in with fdetcl lock on prem errors
22:37 <aosdict> in the off season, Announcy moonlights as the vanilla commit announcer in #nethack-dev
22:37 <rld> <@riker> i'm running mac. its not worth it arahael. dont do it.
22:37 <arahael> riker: Heh, ok. :(
22:37 <rld> <@riker> ymmv. at this point i just praise chris for the sanity of having a makefile <3
22:38 <arahael> Modern developers have no idea how good it is to keep things stupid simple. :(  Just a simple makefile is awesome.
22:39 <rld> <@riker> one of these days i'll convince chris to purge the old sys/ folders
22:39 <arahael> That would be good - if they're unmaintained, it's only harmful.
22:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful umber hulk, on T:69395
22:39 <rld> <@riker> the only two it still needs at this point is share/ and unix/. the rest can go. nobody supports amiga anymore
22:40 <arahael> It's be very nice if it could do lua in-tree.  I think that's the most significant required depenendency.
22:40 <rld> <@riker> i feel like could kill the Qt graphics setup too, since i do'nt think its used for much other than tiles? and dnethack is never getting tiles
22:40 <rld> <@riker> dnh is going to forever be based off the 3.4.3 sources, unfortunately. wayyy too much work porting it to 3.6 let alone 3.7
22:41 <arahael> Ah, so no lua, then.
22:42 <aosdict> and there are wayyy too many special levels to rework them all in lua
22:42 <aosdict> even if it just added lua independently
22:42 <arahael> mehow, I feel that lua is an odd choice for nethack.
22:43 <aosdict> versus what?
22:43 <aosdict> *anything* is better than the godawful des language used pre 3.7
22:43 <rld> <@riker> yeah lol aosdict
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Aldinach, on T:63386
22:43 <aosdict> and I think lua is better than any of the suggested alternatives I've seen
22:44 <rld> <@riker> the solution to dnethack and des file object placement shenanigans, especially with new properties & such, was to just make an override. object class "#" feeds the object name (the only argument) through the wizmode wish parser
22:44 <rld> <@riker> easy. totally elegant and a clean solution
22:44 <rld> <@riker> anything is better than actually properly poking around with how it works. tarmunora ftw
22:45 <rld> <@riker> how the hell is asmodeus not dead yet btw heliokopis
22:45 <arahael> aosdict: I thought it used C, not "des"?
22:45 <arahael> But there's other compiled languages out there, I guess what I mean is... It's odd using a scripting language in nethack.
22:45 <rld> <@riker> arahael: no, the level files are stored in .des files, which uses a lex/yacc parser iirc?
22:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Obox-ob, on T:63395
22:45 <rld> <@riker> or at least 3.4.3 and 3.6 use the desfiles
22:46 <arahael> Ah!   Interesting, and curious.
22:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:69953
22:46 <aosdict> arahael: Level files were specified in a declarative, domain-specific language called des, which nethack shipped with its own compiler for. The des files would compile into binary .lev files that needed to be packaged with the game.
22:46 <rld> <@riker> look in util/ and check out the .y files if you're curious
22:46 <arahael> I'm now reading https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Des-file_format
22:47 <rld> <@riker> i wonder if the boulder fort is working against heliokopis. it prevents attacks from more than one dude at a time but it gives asmo a lot more downtime
22:47 <rld> <@riker> i've never had issues w/ killing him to this extent, and I don't normally use forts vs non-quest nemeses
22:47 <aosdict> If you wanted to modify how the level compiler worked, you first needed to understand yacc and a mass of arcane information specific to this language
22:48 <rld> <@riker> also Heliokopis reinforce the hepta more, it'll burn charges in your fire wands (hah, burn) but it'll ward off asmo a lot more too
22:48 <aosdict> and the language itself was crappy. no variables until 3.6 and even then they broke if you looked at them wrong
22:49 <Heliokopis> lol...thanks for that, riker.  Was wondering if it was worth it
22:49 <arahael> aosdict: Yeah, seems quite awkward.  I guess the haskell in me is thinking: "This would be nice as a haskell free monad", but really, I would have expected to see a compiled language used for these rather than a scripting language.
22:49 <rld> <@riker> he'll still cast spells even when he can't hit you in melee, unfortunately
22:49 <arahael> As far as scripting languages are concerned, though... Lua is a fine choice.
22:50 <rld> <@riker> write it all in javascript
22:50 <aosdict> Trust me, as someone who makes special levels and themed rooms, a scripting language is far better than a declarative, compiled language.
22:50 <rld> <@riker> this is what spidermonkey is for
22:51 <arahael> aosdict: I'd say the lines blur a lot, why do you prefer a scripting languae to an appropriate compiled langauge?
22:51 <rld> <@riker> aosdict: there's a reason a lot of the themed rooms/inclusions in dnethack are in mkroom.c as C functions :/
22:52 <aosdict> well for one, is there a good reason we need to have a separate step of compiling levels before they can be read by the game
22:52 <arahael> aosdict: Exactly.  Compile the whole thing in one. ;)
22:52 <aosdict> removing that cut a lot of hassle out of the build process
22:52 <arahael> Most build systems can do incremental builds very well.
22:53 <arahael> Some so-called scripting languages even have an automated build step that's done on the fly. (Python)
22:53 <aosdict> I also can't think of a compiled language that would be lightweight enough for levels.
22:53 <arahael> What's "lightweight"?
22:55 <aosdict> like, C is a lot less flexible than lua in terms of code
22:55 <aosdict> maybe I should have said "flexible enough"
22:56 <arahael> Yeah, well, C's not a great choice for this, indeed. :)
22:56 <arahael> You'd want a language that lets you define some sort of elegant DSL.
22:56 <aosdict> ... we HAD that, and it was bad.
22:56 <aosdict> des is a DSL.
22:57 <arahael> Sure...  You'd want a language that lets you define some sort of *good* DSL.
22:57 <arahael> ... With all the capabilities of the parent language.
22:58 <aosdict> this has the same problem as des, in that the barrier to entry in writing new levels is you have to learn the level language to do it
22:59 <arahael> Well, yes...  But usually this is called an "API" instead to make it feel more approachable.
22:59 <aosdict> whereas lua is fairly straightforward for anyone familiar with imperative programming and has good documentation
22:59 <aosdict> the "nethack api" in lua is lua.adoc
22:59 <arahael> I'd be willing to bet dollars to peanuts that there is still a DSL in lua there for these level files.
23:00 <aosdict> I mean, if you are referring to things like the routine which creates a monster in the level, yes, obviously that's not native Lua
23:00 <aosdict> it attaches to a c function under the hood in sp_lev.c
23:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2154 points, T:1634, killed by an uninjured soldier ant
23:02 <arahael> aosdict: I'm not sure we're on the same page as to what can be meant by the term "DSL".
23:02 <arahael> Let me see if I can find a lua file - I note evilhack doens't have any.
23:03 <arahael> Ok, just loaded orcus.lua - I can see that it has a 'des' object and you call everything on that.
23:03 <arahael> So it's still got, effectively, a DSL using that.
23:04 <arahael> orcus.lua could be done very easily in a compiled language. :)
23:05 <arahael> bigrm-4.lua looks nice, but same deal.
23:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Con Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3339
23:06 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:06 * arahael heads out - gotta figure out dinner.  Thinking of doing a fish curry with tumeric leaves.
23:07 <aosdict> by DSL you're referring to, I think, effects unachievable in the native language itself, such as placing a monster or object. That's an API, not a DSL, in my book. 
23:07 <moon-child> des was a compiled language.  And there were some patches--originating in ace or spork iirc--to make it more capable, give it branches, loops, etc
23:09 <aosdict> By DSL I mean a language which exists solely for the purpose of creating levels. E.g. if you want to make a level in the DES language, you better remember the semantics of whether your first line is prefixed with LEVEL: or MAZE: and it won't compile if it's something other than neither of those (the compilation failing with a nonspecific error).
23:10 <moon-child> my org has a 'dsl' for fin/numerical analysis.  It's completely turing-complete and very capable--similar to julia, python, or ml--but it's designed for a very specific domain; that's what makes it a dsl
23:10 <aosdict> s/neither/either/
23:10 <arahael> aosdict: I'm *not* suggesting that C should be used, just to be clear. :)  Maybe ML. Maybe OcaML. Maybe Haskell. Maybe Rust. 
23:11 <arahael> aosdict: But in C projects, a DSL is normally traditionally done in a separate language outright because you generally need higher kinded types, dynamic types, good support for literals, and the like.
23:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Fem Law) destroyed zantyr's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:25771
23:11 <arahael> And C doesn't have jack. :(
23:12 <moon-child> arahael: https://github.com/jackaudio/jack1 is written in c ;)
23:13 <arahael> (┛ಠ_ಠ)┛彡┻━┻
23:13 <moon-child> lua is a very common choice for an embedded scripting language, particularly for games.  Rust and haskell aren't nearly portable enough; ml maybe, but it's not clear that it would make sense in that role
23:13 <arahael> On that note, I'm off to the garden to pick these tumeric leaves. :)  (Don't worry about the tableflip - was just being dramatic)
23:13 <moon-child> rewriting the entire game in ml I could get behind, if somebody is willing to put in the hours
23:13 <moon-child> have fun!
23:13 <arahael> moon-child: Yeah, given that lua is alreayd chosen, there's aboslutely no reason to change that, i just thought that it was a bit odd that it moved *to* lua. :)
23:14 <arahael> And lua is trivial to embed, too, and for a scripting language, has excellent performance.
23:14 <arahael> Laters. :)
23:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had a conical hat entrusted to her by Mog, on T:20766
23:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Fem Law) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:25917
23:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2963
23:21 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3067
23:25 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "SOLDIER ANTS", on T:3179
23:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a straw golem, on T:26377
23:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:21098
23:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:21105
23:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 310 points, T:1281, killed by a gas spore's explosion
23:29 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2355 points, T:3311, killed by a slightly wounded watch captain
23:31 <rld> <@luxidream> I installed hdf build but still can't figure out how to get curses
23:32 <aosdict> you need certain lines in your hints
23:33 <rld> <@riker> heliokopis is running a fucking marathon trying to kill asmo, still, lol. maybe his hp regen should be toned down for sanity's sake at this pt. been ages since i fought him
23:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:26766
23:39 <rld> <@luxidream> I have want_win_curses = 1 and curseslib = 1
23:39 <rld> <@luxidream> in hints
23:39 <rld> <@luxidream> still doesn't do anything :<
23:39 <aosdict> what is your WINSRC line?
23:40 <aosdict> I have WINSRC = $(WINTTYSRC) $(WINCURSESSRC)
23:40 <Tangles> @luxidream if you're building the 3.7-hdf branch on Linux, have a look at sys/unix/hints/tangles - I created that one for myself and decided to commit it just in case I have another consecutive failure of 3 HDDs and have to start again.
23:40 <aosdict> ditto for the WINOBJ and WINLIB lines
23:41 <Tangles> but that's the hints file I use for loca builds now, and it does the job.
23:41 <{Demo}> "another consecutive failure of 3 HDDs" you lined them all up and shot them with a high power rifle?
23:42 <Tangles> @luxidream: CFLAGS+=-DCURSES_GRAPHICS
23:43 <Tangles> {Demo}: No. They were 3TB Seagates.
23:44 <Tangles> So they managed it on their own.
23:44 <Tangles> but yeah consecutive is not the word - concurrent, maybe?
23:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Jilvane (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3170
23:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Jilvane (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3204
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23:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) averted death, on T:64004
23:45 <bugsniper> yasi: getting hit by a pie should deal approximately 3.14 damage
23:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Jilvane (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:3264
23:46 <Tangles> lol
23:46 <aosdict> pacifists hate this
23:46 <Heliokopis> grrrr
23:47 <Tangles> Whoa. What happened?
23:47 <aosdict> asmo fight
23:47 <Heliokopis> talking to me?  I had to quit for the night..facing too many demons and devils.
23:48 <Heliokopis> and I am tired...lol
23:48 <Heliokopis> asmo has my number..I gave up on him.
23:48 <Heliokopis> Then Belz and some other douche showed up.
23:48 <Heliokopis> hehe
23:48 <Tangles> Heliokopis: Yeah I saw the 'averted death' message. Thought you had it well in hand.
23:49 <Heliokopis> One of the demons was casting spell from a distance that was doing 50+ per round...
23:49 <Heliokopis> No ward going to help that.
23:49 <Tangles> Yeah there are some bad ones.
23:49 <Andrio> Running time.
23:50 <Heliokopis> Yea.. running I did.  But asmo is one level above..hehe..got them stacked up a bit
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23:50 <Heliokopis> Wish I could kill asmo...
23:52 <Heliokopis> Sadly I am running out of resources so I need to regroup tomorrow and see if I can get past Belz and the other turd.
23:52 <Heliokopis> All because I was foolish enough to take on Asmo...such a fool I am.
23:53 <Heliokopis> I think he kept resisting beheading...:(
23:54 <Heliokopis> Without exaggeration I have been trying to kill him the last two days, probably a total of 10 hours
23:54 <Heliokopis> Epic fight but I tip my hat to him.
23:55 <Heliokopis> I have to stop watching clone wars..I am beginning to speak like Yoda.
23:55 <Heliokopis> Asmo, cross eyed he is.
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23:56 <rld> <@luxidream> owo
23:56 <rld> <@luxidream> thank you Tangles
23:56 <rld> <@luxidream> it works now