00:00 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 00:01 Hi stenno 00:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3918 00:04 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3291 00:09 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3454 00:10 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 00:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) murdered blueberry, his faithful penguin, on T:3735 00:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6535 00:14 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4112 00:14 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4115 00:14 [hdf-us] [slex] joshtaco (Bin Des Mal Law), 165 points, T:605, killed by a monster (woodsman) 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3081 points, T:4766, killed by an orcish arrow 00:19 K2: it appears that my newest version of Konsole no longer brightens bold colors, even when I deliberately force TERM=screen. Any idea if I can force it somehow? This used to be a curses-specific problem, but now seems to apply for everything that isn't NH4+friends (which I know completely ignores any termcap settings) 00:19 hmm no not off top of my head 00:19 (screen as opposed to screen-256color that is, which I know made curses mode do the annoying color thing beforehand already) 00:20 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4443 00:21 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4485 00:22 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4521 00:22 there might be a toggle in the konsole settings? a lot of terminals have that in there somewhere 00:24 konsole has the reverse; force bright colors to be bold 00:24 but doesn't have force bold to be bright 00:24 gnome-terminal interestingly has that, so I might switch to that 00:24 huh, weird 00:25 iTerm2 definitely has this configurable. 00:25 For nethack it's especially good because I have it set to ensure a "minimum contrast". 00:27 [hdf-us] [4k] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1671 00:32 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 00:33 -!- Umby has joined #hardfought 00:34 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:37 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 167000 points, T:23473, disintegrated by a beholder 00:39 So much for the shambling horror. 00:40 That was potentially an exceptionally good game, until I met the beholder! 00:40 I had no idea that beholders had disintegration attacks! 00:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:10138 00:41 (Which is indeed mentioned on the nethack page) 00:41 oof 00:42 Interesting, however, that the disintegration attack didn't reflect. 00:42 feel your pain, been there 00:42 disint gaze never reflects 00:42 its not the same as black dragon breath attack 00:42 Hmm. 00:43 So I should perhaps blidn myself for all e's. 00:43 thats your only real defense against a beholder 00:43 wearing the eyes of the overworld are also useful 00:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "holy fixed greased +5 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10476 00:44 K2: How does that work? 00:45 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/355900699790d8555665a6e8c9965d609e5c3cb4 00:45 ^ read that 00:47 That's cool. 00:50 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 526 points, T:1067, killed by a hill orc 00:50 Aw damn ;; 00:57 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "People who can eat People are orcs or cavemen"] 00:57 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 00:58 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 01:00 -!- Umby has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:03 microlance: Found your bones! 01:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiteress, on T:12204 01:03 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:6359 01:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "holy fixed greased +5 shield of reflection", on T:12454 01:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:6489 01:09 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:13 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:13 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 01:22 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 01:22 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 01:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 4345 points, T:1231, killed by a leocrotta 01:27 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:33 @luxidream time on that? 01:34 lol bad 01:34 lets see 01:34 1:25 01:34 pretty okay 01:35 !lastgame 01:35 arahael: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joshtaco/slex/dumplog/1608857597.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/V/Vis/dnethack/dumplog/1609559343.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1609566640.evil.html 01:38 luxidream: did you ascend 01:38 ye 01:38 hit the 2/3 this time :p 01:38 orite its in #NetHack ofc 01:38 nice 01:39 i got castle wow in the same time it took you to ascend rofl 01:39 had a throne wish earlier for GDSM and got [oR with the first castle wish 01:39 cuz already got chargey scroll 01:40 grats luxidream 01:40 no medusa reflection is sad 01:40 yes it is 01:40 i had an ammy but it was "oLS 01:40 so i thought... ok i wish for the shield then 01:40 there was also an aleax but he didn't have one either :C 01:40 just a regular large shield 01:40 bastard 01:41 my last game I just rolled with "or 01:41 then switched to life saving on astral 01:41 i might have wished for "oR but i thought since i had "oLS already 01:41 yeah shield is a better wish I think 01:41 i like twoweapon but i dont think ranger does it anyway 01:41 nop 01:42 yea thought so 01:42 which is funny because ranger in later editions of dnd actually specializes in twoweapon 01:42 lol 01:43 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:8956 01:43 They can't, nope 01:43 i already have -24 AC lol 01:43 teh levdrain thing for prot is great 01:46 drain for gain in 2021 o: 01:46 yea that's why I pick up stormbringer 01:46 that and clairvoyance saves a lot of resources in hell 01:47 i didn't have money left over for much clairvoyance unfortunately 01:47 and im not sure i want to levdrain in the valley to do it there 01:47 blessed restore ability if you have it 01:47 would work 01:47 woah 01:47 usually I make sure to kill some shks before donating 01:47 oh yeah i could done that i guess 01:47 i sold id'd gems 01:47 for some cash 01:48 blessed restore ability gives back levels? 01:48 Yes 01:48 3.6 thing 01:48 it's pretty neat 01:48 i did not know that llol 01:48 3.7 is gonna include the unihorn nerf to stat restoration from other variants 01:48 so the potion sees more use in general 01:48 sweet 01:49 yeah i know about the unihorn nerf 01:49 stats don't matter anyway 01:49 but i didn't know you could regain lost levels like that 01:49 : ) 01:49 thats p sweet 01:50 I've known for a bit, haven't had to urgently use that method though :B 01:50 i think i blanked my restore ability potion lol 01:50 but maybe i'll find another one in the valley 01:50 who knows 01:50 imagine looting valley 01:51 its too slow right 01:51 i dont have time for that 01:51 idk I should probably do that more often 01:51 there's good loot there 01:51 i always loot it lol 01:51 it just takes a while to crack open all the boxes 01:51 yeah 01:51 its a bit of a faff but there's good shit in there 01:51 now if you get the priest quest 01:51 don't try 01:52 hahaha 01:52 Just turn undead spam 4Head 01:52 I really should see if I can ascend that phone priestess speaking of 01:52 also continue my current hdf one 01:52 I meant the amount of time it actually takes to loot all the boxes 01:52 yeah i realised this 01:53 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:11485 01:53 idk what Umby is talkin bout 01:54 I was thinking you meant the tedium of killing all the monsters to even get at the boxes 01:54 sometimes I let them kill each other with conflict 01:55 v. smart 01:55 you can get to level 30 that way lol 01:55 yea or if you're stacked and stealthy it's not so bad 01:55 just geno L first 01:55 actually can you get L there 01:55 its not gehennom right 01:55 so i guess not 01:55 it's not hell so you wouldn't get the bad ones 01:55 i think possibly non-gehennom graveyards don't get L at all? 01:56 i should geno L before valley tho 01:56 otherwise they'll wake everyone up 01:56 and that'll be a pain 01:56 Yeah, I don't think you *can* get L in the quest 01:56 or rather the graveyard 01:56 hold on... 01:56 castle L are a special case i thini 01:56 never considered that, is a good idea 01:56 you get L in valley graveyards 01:56 gravyard, graveyard... 01:57 luxidream: yeah valley is also hell 01:57 i dont think dod or quest graveyards will have any L at all 01:57 Eugh, nothing about generation 01:57 * Umbire earmarks the Lich page for fixing 01:58 shapeshifters or polytraps can give you L before gehennom ofc 01:58 natch 01:59 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 02:00 morguemon() just adds demons in hell 02:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 6203 points, T:3171, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted warg, while fainted from lack of food 02:07 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 02:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:12320 02:12 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:17 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:17 [hdf-us] [fh] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 31125 points, T:1452, killed by a gnome lady 02:19 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 02:19 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:6389 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:7021 02:27 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13792 02:29 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 02:29 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 02:29 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:32 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:14274 02:36 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:38 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:68342 02:46 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (bad clones), on T:15235 02:59 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 03:03 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:03 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 03:03 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic whistle", on T:69328 03:20 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:17302 03:23 *sigh*, third trapdoor in a row! 03:29 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:17691 03:30 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 03:33 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:12481 03:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:12482 03:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 36184 points, T:11550, killed by wounded Mr. Cahersiveen; the shopkeeper 03:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:12528 03:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:12653 04:00 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 04:01 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 04:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:12953 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3184 points, T:8014, killed by an uninjured Woodland-elf 04:04 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:05 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 04:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:06 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:13 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 04:15 elenmirie__: rip 04:15 crummy game, too slow 04:15 ranger is going not so badly. i think im 1h 40min in, clearing the valley atm 04:16 or i was, i paused to make a tea 04:16 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:16 this is the first ran i've had where i got Stormy as first sac gift 04:17 the other ones i got grimtooth 04:17 elenmirie__: oh i ragequit another run last night after 3 blessed magic lamps gave me nada 04:17 in fact i got two hostile djinn lol 04:17 bah! 04:17 i killed them, but then i messed up soko and got fed up 04:18 this game i also got an dud lamp 04:18 but on the plus side, i did get a throne wish before castle 04:18 so, not too bad 04:18 thats something 04:18 castle wand was 0:3 too :) 04:18 and i already had charging :) 04:18 wished for reflecty shield and two markers 04:19 @luxidream how fast was that one 04:19 also grats 04:20 1:29 04:20 bah 04:20 let's see if I can keep up the win rate 04:20 sub-1h :P 04:20 orite win rate is what you want on that alt lol 04:20 if I want to play in a marathon someday have to be consistent you know? 04:20 right 04:21 luxidream3: i do have restore ability i can bless for getting my levels back 04:21 :D 04:22 so i could do the valley priest clairvoyance thing 04:22 don't get killed 04:22 i actually use tested it earlyer and called it GL 04:22 yeah getting killed would suck 04:22 i should go back to playing, i am abusing the save function somewhat lol 04:23 not really 04:23 though I think it is better practice to just play :) 04:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) murdered her faithful ettin zombie, on T:13569 04:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Scout, on T:13644 04:28 You stop. The priestess of Moloch doesn't want to swap places. 04:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Luxidream (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 188321 points, T:21365, quit 04:28 i cant donate anymore i guess D: 04:28 or is that fixed now? 04:28 im not gonna risk it lol 04:28 i dont want to die 04:28 <@luxidream> that's a safe message 04:28 <@luxidream> the unsafe message is 04:28 <@luxidream> "You stop. The priestess of Moloch is in the way!" 04:30 ah i see 04:30 thanks 04:32 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:14206 04:37 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 04:38 well fuck 04:38 lycanthropy broke my cloak and GDSM 04:38 maybe i'll revgeno the bastards 04:38 i think MR isn't so important for quest at least 04:39 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:43 Oh, WOW! OrcTown still has a viable shop! 04:43 Matagami's General Store. 04:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "holy teleport control", on T:15377 04:44 Hmm, and getting out is giong to be tricky - I'm now very thoroughly locked in it. 04:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:15619 04:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15626 05:02 -!- talkingleaf has quit [Quit: talkingleaf] 05:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:16841 05:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:16842 05:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 7572 points, T:3325, killed by a leocrotta 05:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:18054 05:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:18079 05:33 <@p0werm0de> gogo stellar 05:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:18094 05:34 Stellaaaaaaa! 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 173070 points, T:27183, petrified by a wounded chickatrice 05:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an uninjured priest of Moloch), on T:18686 05:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 6693 points, T:2492, killed by a white unicorn 05:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:18946 05:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:18953 05:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:44 Dem unicorns be vicious. 05:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:19005 05:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:19733 05:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an uninjured elf-queen), on T:19738 05:57 Hmm... Why did the zombie attack a spot besides me? The only thing I can think of is this "corroded orcish helm" might be displacement? But surely that'd have self-identified once I wear it? 05:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a wounded minotaur), on T:19822 05:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 2164 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:20260 06:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:20835 06:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 3227 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:20837 06:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by the wounded invisible Wizard of Yendor), on T:21046 06:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:9988 06:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:21698 06:13 arahael, are you invisible? 06:16 Andrio: Not that I'm aware of. 06:17 It does seem that I am, however. 06:17 Must've been a trap? 06:17 Yeah, I'm definitel invisible. 06:18 out of life saving D: 06:19 <@Umby> RIP to sonsie, may their statue serve someone well 06:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "holy wand of polymorph", on T:21877 06:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:21879 06:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:22020 06:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Mal Cha), 2480 points, T:3507, killed by a bolt of cold 06:38 <@p0werm0de> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpHre5htFlU check my mighty tiles stream without commentary 06:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:24064 06:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:24065 06:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 289 points, T:985, killed by a goblin 06:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:28156 06:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:9044 06:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 06:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 06:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:24601 06:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:24630 06:49 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 06:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1305724 points, T:24651, ascended 06:49 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/nethack/dumplog/1609562137.nh.html 06:49 wonder what time i got :o 06:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9575 06:50 possibly under 4h 06:50 not sure 06:50 <@p0werm0de> gg 06:50 i lifesaved so many times lmao 06:50 thx p0werm0de 06:51 3.27 kps apparently 06:51 i can do higher but then i just die all the time 06:51 3:58:52 06:52 \o/ 06:52 aoei: Flügelbüschelstella = you? :D 06:52 no, just "Stella" 06:52 lol 06:52 altho, someone already took Stella on NAO_ 06:53 but she does have a bundle, right? 06:53 who knows 06:53 probably? 06:53 i mean i still have some ways to go to beat sub-2h, but sub-4h is now my personal best on 3.7.0 woot 06:53 ability to name chars on the server for "vanilla" when :P (slex already has that feature and I'd urge every 3.4/3.6/3.7-based variant dev to steal it) 06:56 gah I wish nhqdb allowed me to display more than 10 entries on a page when I click on "latest" 06:56 having to scroll through hundreds of pages gets really annoying 06:56 stenno: ^^ 06:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10146 06:58 ok thats great but like 06:58 i just ascended sub-4h how fast have you ascended :v 06:59 apparently I have a 3:13 unnethack ascension??? that cannot be, it surely lasted much longer than that 07:00 almost 40k turns, I cannot have done that in under eight hours 07:00 the clock must be broken :P 07:00 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:00 my fastest vanilla ascension was over six hours so yeah, the two un ascensions are buggedly showing lower realtime counts 07:03 unnethack has a weird system, can't compare that 07:03 im talking nethack 07:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28654 07:04 yeah then my fastest was six hours if the display on the scoreboard is to be believed, and even that seems rather fast to me (as in, way faster than I'm capable of) 07:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha) killed Daemon, on T:28698 07:04 * aoei shrugs 07:04 if its vanilla it should be legit 07:04 but sub-4 hours? wow, I'd certainly not be able to pull that off even if I tried, so congrats! ♥ 07:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 504 points, T:1004, killed by an arrow 07:04 unnethack has a weird thing where if you idle it stops incrementing the time if you don't actually spend turns 07:04 like it's capped somehow 07:04 bhaak explained it before 07:05 my playing style in vanilla is way too slow for speedrunning (both minturn and realtime) anyway, because I spend too much time sacfesting, backtracking etc. :P 07:05 you can sacfest in realtime 07:05 you just have to do it fast 07:05 for minturns its not really an option 07:06 oh, and let's not forget I end up spending about 90% of my time managing inventory weights and 10% actually playing the game, at least in vanillaoid variants' lategame 07:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha) killed Glasya, on T:28946 07:06 which I also view as the absolute anti-fun feature but oh well, my solution was to not play versions with insanely low carry caps anymore :P 07:07 you're just a packrat lmao 07:07 you don't need all that stuff 07:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:29047 07:08 having to walk all the way back to my stash because I ran out of blank scrolls or holy water just suuuuucks! 07:08 (and also wastes way too many turns/realtime minutes) 07:08 yeah so don't stash 07:08 and don't pick up so much crap 07:08 easy 07:09 but then I'm always afraid of not having important items available when I need them! 07:09 so figure out which things are truly important 07:09 and drop the crap 07:09 so I got to unnethack's sanctum, great. how the hell do I get past the drawbridge if I never picked up a wand of striking because it would burden me? :P 07:10 striking is one of the actually important ones 07:10 obviously 07:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:29184 07:10 but loads of wands are fairly pointless after a certain point in the game 07:11 several types of wands are fairly important: striking, tele, cold, (in variants where E is OP) fire... and since they usually spawn with what feels like 3 charges max, can't ever have enough of them because they constantly go empty :P 07:11 and in vanilla you don't even have an easy way to reveal the # of charges, you have to wiggle all your crap and then hope the blessed identify scroll works 07:12 which is IMHO one of the scrappiest mechanics in vanilla, together with the "yeah enchant armor only works on the piece you want if you always strip off all the others first lol" 07:15 <@p0werm0de> fuck lvl 4 of sokoban 07:15 <@p0werm0de> always have to read up on 2nd layout 07:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:29857 07:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1788 07:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha) destroyed Death, on T:30035 07:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 99 points, T:221, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 07:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 mithril shield of reflection", on T:1814 07:27 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Pestilence, on T:30096 07:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Fem Cha), 4905326 points, T:30123, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1609501437.dnh.txt 07:29 gratz malor! 07:29 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Ran Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1845 07:29 <@malor> thanks 07:30 <@malor> I finally have a 4 ascension streak! Other than Tariru, no one had ever done that! 07:30 woot! 07:31 that's awesome! 07:31 <@malor> Unfortunately dNethack streaks aren't tracked anymore. But I will know it 🙂 07:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide boots of speed", on T:2273 07:32 what're you gonna do next? 07:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 bone gauntlets of power", on T:2297 07:33 <@malor> I'm going for 5 with another monk run. Chiropteran monk is a new option in .20 so I've been going through them. I ascended Lawful and Chaotic, now for Neutral. 07:34 <@malor> Chiropteran monk is probably the most powerful role, so it's not super difficult :) although 2 for 2 isn't ever very easy. 07:34 chiro monk was in .19 too im sure. 07:34 do chiro convict so you can carry everything when you get the ball! 07:34 <@malor> I must not have checked back then :) New at that point then 🙂 07:34 more powerful than hlf monk? 07:34 <@malor> I already ascended Chiro Convict. That's the easiest convict because they are strong enough not to take damage going down stairs. 07:35 <@malor> I think so, yes. (More powerful than Hlf monk) 07:35 hrmrmrm 07:35 its because they fly. 07:35 <@malor> flying at level 1. Extra bite attack (I have no idea how much damage it does) Carrying capacity is insane. 07:35 hlfs fly as well after a certain level, get a free resistance and breath attack, and extra fist damage 07:36 <@malor> And they have "claws" also, so you do full damage against undead, which is the probably non Half Dragon monks would typically have. 07:36 try some gnome convict if your not into streaking. they are fun if you get them to the quest so you get respectable carrying 07:36 hlfs also have claws :P 07:36 <@malor> Right, I'm saying that the biggest advantage dragons have, the claws, is shared by Chiro's. 07:36 maybe I'll try a chiro monk, they do sound good 07:36 if your lucky you can even get a gold 2x water dmg 2hander excal convict going 07:37 does the chiro bite attack bite cockatrices? 07:37 because that would suck so much if you'd die from it 07:37 <@malor> I assume that auto-kills you. 07:37 oh wait, chiros are large aren't they 07:37 <@malor> Chiro also have excellent "monster sense" though. So you always "see" things when they are about 5 squares away. 07:37 <@malor> yes, large and "barded". 07:38 that's a pretty big downside 07:38 i dont think vamps and chiros do their bites to things that kill them 07:38 just dont wish for gloves before you got kits 07:38 <@malor> I never tested it 🙂 07:38 arti gloves 07:38 so rush law quest for prem heart wish I guess 07:39 <@malor> Getting to the lawful level which guarantees you a kit isn't that hard. But yeah, you have to wait until you find one. 07:39 <@malor> I just take it normal as monks without premium heart are REALLY GOOD anyway 🙂 07:39 yeah for sure 07:40 <@malor> the one negative about chrio's is they have no viable "feet" so you have to wish for Quicksilver pretty much every game. Which is basically a wasted wish when you aren't also wielding it. Monks don't need much anyway. Premium Heart and that's it really 🙂 07:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] zantyr (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1635 points, T:1606, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3402 07:45 <@malor> also Chro's can eat "tripe rations" successfully every time. Although for a monk those are NOT vegetarian. 07:47 Monks even get a bit sick from them. 07:47 [hdf-eu] [nh363] infinigon (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:24900 07:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) had a knife entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:3795 07:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3812 07:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible microlance's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:3940 07:51 that's a good tip about wishing for quicksilver 07:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:3950 07:52 there's also alacritty ring I guess 07:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:18105 07:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Ran Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Alex's ghost, the former Adept, on T:3239 08:01 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 4678 points, T:3242, killed by an uninjured leocrotta 08:02 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 08:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:4708 08:06 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh363] infinigon (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:25849 08:15 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6211 08:18 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 08:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 23243 points, T:7222, killed by Yeenoghu, while paralyzed by a monster 08:31 okay i should have had free action before doing that 08:31 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased the holographic void lily", on T:25366 08:39 turns out you can apply grease from a can of grease to itself 08:39 x - a greased can of grease 08:39 yo dawg, I heard you like grease 08:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6433 08:46 yeah, I've done that.~ 08:46 can cans of grease rust in vanilla? 08:46 No 08:46 Only weapons and armour. 08:47 I think in evilhack they can... so a bit more useful there :-) 08:48 #MakeGreasePlastic2021 08:48 #OrAtLeastMakeItADifferentColor2021 08:48 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:26314 08:51 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:26459 08:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4857 08:55 They can definitely rust in evilhack if they're made of iron. 08:56 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 09:00 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:03 aosdict: that needs a yafm 09:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:4827 09:05 spicycebolla: maybe if hallucinating 09:08 [hdf-eu] [fh] amateurhour (Mon Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:16528 09:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:714 09:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1221 09:13 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 09:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:20442 09:15 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:49632 09:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1126 points, T:1572, killed by a poisonous corpse 09:16 Say YES to plastic! Glass can break. Plastic persists forever and for always in the sea. :P 09:17 we need to give the archaeologists of the future something to look at! 09:17 so be sure to make sure all your plastic creations end up in the sea 09:18 there is an actual commercial in germany that says so: https://www.horizont.net/news/media/27/True-Fruits-Sag-JA-zu-Plastik-268615-detailp.jpeg 09:19 sorry i can't read spanish, what does it say? 09:19 exactly what I said before 09:20 i.e. the say yes to plastic etc. slogan 09:20 ah, so it says "fleecy bundle ♡" I see 09:20 amateurhour: But the advertiser's actual product is shown at bottom right, made of glass, so it's snarky. 09:20 that's a fun advert 09:23 LarienTelrunya: Go on an all-plastic diet wherein you eat nothing but plastic :-) 09:23 Mind you if the ocean's turned into orange soda it probably matters less 09:23 <{Demo}> watch out for microplastics 09:23 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha) genocided memory hounds, on T:27278 09:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:1997 09:24 microplastics are useless to future archeologists 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12756 09:25 * jonadab contemplates inventing a type of plastic wherein the individual molecules are so large that microplastics are impossible. 09:25 you're right aosdict we need to make gigaplastics 09:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:2564 09:33 [hdf-eu] [nh363] infinigon (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29640 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3491 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:49926 09:38 can you use confused blessed scroll of recall in fiqhack to skip the ascension run? 09:42 [hdf-eu] [fh] amateurhour (Mon Elf Mal Cha) genocided class 'L', on T:17286 09:42 [hdf-eu] [fh] amateurhour (Mon Elf Mal Cha) genocided class 'h', on T:17292 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4244 09:42 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:43 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4312 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 silver arrows on an altar, on T:7583 09:51 <@based> wow uh 09:51 <@based> really stupid 09:51 <@based> walked next to one tile where there was an electric eel 09:51 <@based> burdened insta killed me 09:51 <@based> died with 0:3 wand of wishing 09:51 <@based> first time getting to the castle in splicehack 09:52 <@based> was gonna go blank all my scrolls and potions, get tons of holy water, polypile a massive line of gear 09:52 <@based> was gonna enchant all my gear... 09:52 <@based> one stupid eel 09:52 [hdf-us] [spl] Jilvane (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 119165 points, T:28804, drowned in a pool of water by an electric eel 09:52 <@based> was its really necessary? 09:52 <@based> walked next to water tile > eel instakills me 09:53 <@based> not even a chance 09:53 <@based> really shouldve just genocided but i had no id scrolls and i needed to id the WoW 09:53 <@based> ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh this is the worst 09:54 <@based> complete asstarded design 09:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 silver set of crow talons", on T:297851 09:54 <@based> 903/900 encumbrance 09:54 <@based> so fucking stupid 09:55 yeah you would have been fine if you dropped 31 gold 09:55 <@based> i forgot to put my speed boots in the bag 09:55 <@based> i died instantly.... 09:55 <@based> its my mistake of course 09:56 <@based> the eel swung around me 09:56 <@based> and i didnt get another turn 09:56 :( 09:56 <@based> i got five bones files in that run 09:56 <@based> had a triple bones minetown that gave speed boots BoH and magic res 09:57 did aosdict really just say 'yo dawg' 10:00 !tell FIQ when applying a pickaxe towards a boulder in a corner I got a floor of 'You try to move the boulder' messages mid-swinging 10:00 I'm on it, amateurhour. 10:02 flood* gdi 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5672 10:04 K2: yes I did, for the meme 10:04 mind blown 10:05 surely you're familiar with that one 10:05 fo sho 10:06 am I supposed to be some sort of 80 year old luddite or something 10:07 you said it, not me :P 10:07 btw happy new year aosdict \o/ 10:07 here's to a much better year than last 10:08 !toast 10:08 beholder doesn't do toasts 10:08 amateurhour: I think we should escalate this to a priority one critical fix 10:10 !booze everyone 10:10 * Beholder throws everyone a tumbler of liquid courage, fermented by Rodney at 181 degrees Fahrenheit. 10:11 so fun fact - about 20 min ago i watched a full grown fox walk across our backyard, really close to the house 10:12 and we have about 6 inches of fresh snow too wooop 10:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3047 10:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:3105 10:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2608 10:25 Yeah, had something similar about 3 days ago K2 10:26 Fox with nearly no roadsense looking like it could really do with catching a squirrel in broad daylight crossing a road 10:26 luckily ozzy was at the other end of the yard 10:26 this fox looked healthy 10:26 in the snow, where it looked ridiculously bright orange 10:26 ^ that 10:26 you could *hear* the pigeons snorting in derision - "you think you're camouflaged?" 10:26 which is good because we have a LOT of field mice. go get 'em fox 10:27 we've got mice too, some of them might be theoretically 'field' 10:27 heh 10:27 you need arctic foxes 10:27 foxen 10:27 mostly they're somewhere in the bowels of this 1930s apartment block 10:28 (anyone remember that bug?) 10:28 user-defined fruiten? 10:28 i had a problem with mice making their way into my basement several months ago. finally got all of them 10:29 spontiff: partly. the pluralizer recognized how to pluralize oxen for fruits, but it applied to in-game fixes 10:29 foxes* 10:29 foxen* 10:29 :P 10:31 <@Tone> I liked the pizza slouses 10:32 slouses? 10:32 <@Tone> plural for lice I think 10:32 oh 10:32 LarienTelrunya, please describe in 100 words or less, why someone would want to play slex as a 'Butt Lover' 10:33 K2: oh that's easy 10:33 <@Tone> a lot of people use "slice of pizza" as their fruitname, and it pluralized oddly 10:33 'because amy wants to play slex as a "butt lover"' 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a displacer beast, on T:9963 10:33 K2: they love butts 10:33 heh 10:33 I've got 97 words left 10:33 And they cannot lie. 10:34 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/794951634316689408/MV5BNjQyYTE5NjMtYjRkMS00NWVjLWJiNTEtZWNlODRhYmIxZGJkXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjUyNDk2ODc.png 10:34 K2: it's a fun role that has a well-rounded skill set and has to contend with hostile farting monsters more often, making for a fun challenge :D 10:34 this is turning into a win 10:34 LarienTelrunya: if you didn't prohibit Butt Lovers from lying, that's a missed opportunity 10:34 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 10:34 I'm going to assume "well-rounded" was intentional 10:34 :D 10:35 \o/ 10:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:24060 10:35 oh so I guess I should make it so that they're very penalized for lying to a vault guard :P 10:36 special attack - dropping then bending over to pick it up 10:36 <@Joanna> LOL K2 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 9752 points, T:7347, killed by a wounded soldier 10:36 :P 10:38 LarienTelrunya: or just skip the prompt. "You cannot lie, so you tell the guard '[real name]'." 10:38 heh, I'll think of an implementation :) 10:38 Hopefully Croesus doesn't like big butts and/or he can lie. 10:41 <@Joanna> Ay @luxidream i didn't die, i won just under 4h 10:41 <@luxidream> Good job 👍 10:41 <@Joanna> I lifesaved several times tho lol 10:42 <@luxidream> oops...? 10:42 <@Joanna> I also wrested my wow on water for a non wish bc luckstone was cursed 10:42 <@luxidream> I guess you didn’t have conflict 10:42 <@Joanna> I got it before planes 10:42 <@luxidream> why did you get the luckstone if you didn’t crown 10:42 <@Joanna> Good question 10:42 <@Tone> Nice, congrats aoei! under 4 hours is pretty good 10:43 <@Joanna> Thanks :) 10:43 <@Joanna> I eventually wished for a polywand after getting the amulet and escaping gehennom, used that to polypile for conflict 10:44 <@luxidream> oh nice 10:44 <@luxidream> too bad no polymorph control 10:44 <@Joanna> Did have 10:44 <@luxidream> that can help a lot too 10:44 <@Joanna> I used elvenqueen for planes/astral 10:44 <@Joanna> Sincr no life saving left by then 10:45 <@Joanna> Didn't have a poly source for ages tho til i wished for the wand lol 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 15578 points, T:10705, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse 10:46 <@luxidream> did u brag to elenmirie that u you beat her 10:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4451 10:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4451 10:46 <@Joanna> Yes 10:46 did you startscum early wow for that? 10:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:13176 10:46 <@Joanna> Lmao stenno no 10:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:4490 10:46 <@Joanna> My scummy wowstarts are a separate thing 10:47 <@luxidream> my very first speedrun was with early wow 10:47 <@luxidream> during devnull tribute 10:47 <@Joanna> @luxidream i got yeeno at Valley after quest 10:47 [hdf-eu] [fh] amateurhour (Mon Elf Mal Cha) defeated Master Kaen, on T:20504 10:48 <@Joanna> Was difficult to deal with even with?osm 10:48 <@luxidream> Happens 10:48 <@Joanna> I levported to vlads 10:48 <@Joanna> And c corpsed him on asc run 10:48 wait ?oSM works against yeenu/ 10:48 <@luxidream> I got yeenoghu and dispater from summon nasties recently 10:48 i thought it was supposed to not 10:48 <@Joanna> No stenno 10:48 <@luxidream> 3.6.6 10:48 <@Joanna> That's why still difficult 10:48 alwo why are you on discord? 10:49 <@Joanna> It helped for the other mobs 10:49 <@luxidream> 3.7 it doesn’t 10:49 <@Joanna> I'm walking 10:49 <@Joanna> Yea this was hdf 370 10:49 <@Joanna> As Stella 10:49 uh a nurse dug a hole in the floor of kaen's lair 10:49 what happens if I go through it 10:49 shall I fall through for science? 10:49 a hole or a pit? 10:50 crash incoming 10:50 a hole 10:50 <@luxidream> Hell yes 10:50 maybe it leads to the plane of infinite boulders :P 10:50 <{Demo}> science says yes 10:50 it put me in mines end 10:50 oh fiqhack 10:50 <{Demo}> what 10:50 but says home 0 10:50 <{Demo}> what the fuck 10:50 <{Demo}> pic? 10:50 <@Joanna> !lastgame Stella 10:50 @Joanna: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Stella/nethack/dumplog/1609562137.nh.html 10:50 <{Demo}> how did that even happen 10:50 <{Demo}> i would expect it to DIE HARD 10:50 welcome to level 0 :P 10:51 !tell FIQ a nurse made a hole in kaen's lair with wand of digging, falling through loaded mines end but I'm on Home:0 10:51 I'm on it, amateurhour. 10:51 <@luxidream> It leads to the quest king level 10:51 so what happens if I go up the stairs now? 10:51 <@Joanna> Lol amateurhour that is bizarre 10:51 <{Demo}> only one way to find out! 10:51 escaped the dungeon 10:51 <@luxidream> Quest: -1 10:52 plane of earth 10:52 <@luxidream> !whereis amateurhour 10:52 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] amateurhour [fh]: (Mon Elf Mal Cha) T:20570 The Quest level: 14 10:52 <@luxidream> Lies 10:52 <@Joanna> Hahaha 10:52 Home:-1 10:52 <{Demo}> Home:-1 10:52 <{Demo}> lol 10:53 let's keep going! 10:53 <@Joanna> Rip 10:53 <{Demo}> !whereis amateurhour 10:53 {Demo}: [hdf-eu] amateurhour [fh]: (Mon Elf Mal Cha) T:20661 The Quest level: 13 10:53 <@Joanna> Wait what 10:53 <@Joanna> Not dead?? 10:53 <@luxidream> What is home -1 10:53 <{Demo}> i hope this is bug hall of fame worthy 10:53 oh man 10:53 eh 10:53 it doesn't really have an effect does it 10:53 <@luxidream> You must continue exploring 10:53 <{Demo}> !whereis amateurhour 10:53 {Demo}: [hdf-eu] amateurhour [fh]: (Mon Elf Mal Cha) T:20769 The Quest level: 8 10:53 all the npcs are invisible 10:53 wonder how that works with spawn difficulty now 10:54 including the watch 10:54 I have see invis 10:54 just angered the minetown watch :D 10:54 you must have double see invis to see them :P 10:54 <{Demo}> why tf is everything invisible wow 10:54 <{Demo}> yeah amy, they have double invis 10:55 <{Demo}> it'll be exciting to hear from fiq what the hel lactually happened here 10:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13330 10:55 <{Demo}> !whereis amateurhour 10:55 {Demo}: [hdf-eu] amateurhour [fh]: (Mon Elf Mal Cha) T:20963 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 10:55 aww 10:55 everything is working again 10:55 :( 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 160 points, T:921, killed by a dagger 10:55 back to the quest! 10:55 <{Demo}> weird 10:56 <@luxidream> Wait 10:56 <@luxidream> We need to see if this works on mines end 10:56 <@luxidream> Does it let you enter the quest early 10:56 maybe a glitch that allows one to enter the planes early does in fact exist :P 10:56 it was a monster that zapped digging in kaen's, if that matters 10:57 <@luxidream> get a monster to zap digging in mines end and see what happens 10:57 in the internal list of dungeons, mines is the dungeon branch directly before the mines 10:57 the mines is the mines 10:57 a hole on the bottom of mines end should lead to gehennom if it works the same way 10:58 get into sanctum early trick maybe? :P 10:58 <{Demo}> go to the bottom of the mines with a wand of digging 10:58 <{Demo}> and try to use it, if it doesnt work, get a dude to pick it up 10:58 <@luxidream> Would you be willing to sacrifice your game 10:58 <{Demo}> and try to get him to use it 10:58 <@luxidream> For science 10:58 <{Demo}> luxidream, he jumped down the hole 10:58 hope you weren't suposed to win that game 10:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu), 244323 points, T:33226, killed by a deeper one 10:58 <{Demo}> that was the point where it was clear he was willing 10:59 we need a monster that can in fact zap digging 10:59 <@luxidream> That would just cause crash 10:59 <@luxidream> Recoverable 10:59 <@luxidream> Not recoverable if he dies in sanctum 10:59 ayyyy 10:59 <{Demo}> not if it took u somewhere awful 10:59 the wriath digs a hole through the floor 10:59 but why didn't the wraith jump through?! 10:59 wraith* 10:59 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2387 10:59 <{Demo}> or literally took u to done(ESCAPED) 10:59 let's go team science 10:59 <{Demo}> yey 10:59 took me to dlvl 12 11:00 awwwwww 11:00 <{Demo}> is that the deepest uve been? 11:00 no 11:00 <{Demo}> hmmm 11:00 been to dlvl 21 11:00 so the internal dungeon order isn't as I predicted 11:00 or 22 or something 11:00 sokoban next? 11:00 <{Demo}> yeah try soko 11:00 <@luxidream> Now try solo 11:00 <@Tone> fh made it so that branches can have multiple entrances/exits iirc 11:01 <@Tone> seems like a consequence of that 11:01 <@luxidream> Really? 11:01 <@Tone> yeah 11:01 <@luxidream> When did that happen 11:01 <@Tone> I don't know if it's actually implemented anywhere 11:01 <@Tone> but I'm pretty sure if they wanted, Fiq could add a branch stair to the top and bottom of the mines, for instance 11:02 <@Tone> and that it would link up to the dungeon in a sensible way 11:02 <{Demo}> im still surprised it didnt 1. crash or 2. call done(ESCAPED) 11:02 <{Demo}> bad portals call done(ESCAPED) 11:02 it's not a portal though 11:02 hm couatls probs can't zap digging I'm guessing 11:02 <{Demo}> no hands i think 11:03 <@luxidream> Why do golems have gender 11:03 <@luxidream> Aren’t they constructs 11:03 <{Demo}> flesh golems made of 60% female meat is more female than male 11:03 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:2790 11:03 <@luxidream> I thought it was just magic s2f meat but ok 11:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:6014 11:03 alrighty, another hole made 11:04 <@Joanna> ;o 11:04 bleh, dungeons of doom 10 11:04 what if you go back to the hole and use it again? maybe it's randomized 11:04 <@luxidream> Soko 9 to dod 10 11:04 <{Demo}> wonder what a hole in the sanctum would do 11:04 <@luxidream> Makes sense I guess 11:04 <{Demo}> or astral plane 11:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:14083 11:04 <@luxidream> Ludios 11:04 <{Demo}> ooh ludios 11:04 not found ludios yet, but good idea 11:05 but it seems that the effect of the quest hole going to some other branch was "special" while all the other branches seem to just lead back to the dungeons 11:05 <@Tone> astral plane should drop you on -4 :) 11:05 I wonder what happens if I save on home:-4 11:05 <@Joanna> Very interesting 11:05 would I be in astral? 11:05 or water plane or whatever when reloading? 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) had an axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:50713 11:07 <@luxidream> Hey FIQ you should ignore the previous bug report and add advent calendar 11:07 <@luxidream> :3 11:07 hahaha 11:07 add minus world to fiqhack as a feature :P 11:07 advent calendar meh 11:08 I should drop down a hole after dropping down a hole from the quest perhaps 11:08 but will try ludios first 11:08 <@luxidream> As a reference to minus world; they should all be plane of water clones 11:09 if you figure out how to bust out of a branch you should be placed on a special level featuring lots of cows 11:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 36 points, T:164, killed by a lichen 11:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Gno Mal Cha), 4 points, T:54, killed by a sewer rat 11:13 ludios hole made 11:13 took me to soko 11:13 soko but says Dungeons:17 11:13 but thinks I'm in dungeons:17 11:14 soko entrance was dlvl 13 11:14 uh 11:14 ludios entrance was dlvl 13 11:14 <@luxidream> So there’s no way to cheat and go deeper? 11:14 <@luxidream> Wonder if you can get shafted through that hole 11:14 I mean I have another hole here in fakesoko 11:14 let's try it 11:15 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 3564 points, T:4619, slain by a soldier ant, while sleeping 11:15 took me to dlvl 11 11:15 the fun one is probably the quest one, I'll head back there and then fall down the hole in fake mines end 11:16 <@luxidream> Sad that ludios is treated as the same level 11:16 <@luxidream> That you found it on 11:16 should it have a higher level difficulty? 11:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 5026 points, T:1427, zombified by a dwarf zombie 11:17 !whereis amateurhour 11:17 amateurhour: [hdf-eu] amateurhour [fh]: (Mon Elf Mal Cha) T:23212 The Quest level: 14 11:18 that would mean unnethack's ludios has on average slightly lower level difficulty than vanilla 11:18 ah no that just takes back to dungeons of doom again 11:18 <@luxidream> I suppose In unnethack you would find it at a lower level difficulty than you would in vanilla 11:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) wished for "2 cursed potions of gain level", on T:58559 11:18 bhaak: ludios is a good candidate for fixed level difficulty regardless of its entrance, perhaps even better than sokoban 11:18 <@luxidream> oh beat me to it 11:18 YANI: ^^ 11:18 vlad's tower could be another candidate for hole testing, and then possibly the planes :P 11:19 <@luxidream> imagine returning to the dungeon after getting to earth 11:19 aosdict: or at least a max(fixed_level_difficulty, current_level_difficulty) 11:20 @luxidream: all non-slex variants delete the non-planes levels at that point I think, unless there's some other that keeps them 11:20 <@luxidream> demo didn’t you say dungeons are gone when you enter planes 11:20 meh, ludios generating deep is its own punishment 11:20 no need to up the difficulty too 11:20 <{Demo}> yeah they are but i think nh4 changes that 11:20 it loads just fine saving and loading on home:-1 11:20 <@luxidream> Wonder what would happen then 11:20 amateurhour: idea, what happens if you dig down via pick-axe on one of those intermediate levels (e.g. this Home:-1 one)? 11:20 <{Demo}> oh its fine to go back to one in nh3 11:20 <{Demo}> it just regenerates a new level 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible davidkent's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:2739 11:21 <{Demo}> i dont think nh4 deletes them upon entering planes 11:21 <{Demo}> because nh4 changes a shit load of how the dungeon works 11:21 goes to the mines Amy 11:21 ah so now the game properly says that it's the mines 11:22 shame, so far the only really interesting result is the quest hole, all the others just take us to some level in the regular dungeon 11:22 oh wait, the ludios one went to soko, right? 11:23 yeah 11:23 still trying to make out a pattern there, can't really say I'm seeing one though 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 10041 points, T:7369, killed by a raven 11:23 <@luxidream> sanctum should lead you to more hell 11:23 <@luxidream> right? 11:23 infinite gehennom filler levels 11:23 well I mean the order of the branches is mines, quest, soko, ludios... but why didn't the soko hole take us to the quest then? 11:24 truly hell 11:24 if I manage to get to the sanctum before FIQ fixes this I'll let you know what happens 11:24 well one thing that the quest and ludios have in common, is that they're accessed via portal 11:25 so maybe only holes in portal-accessed dungeons go to weird places and others just go back to the dungeons 11:25 <@luxidream> My uncle works on the devteam and he told me that demogorgon’s lair is down there with a second wand of wishing 11:25 we'd have to reach vlad's to check on that 11:26 <@luxidream> Also you can unlock Luigi by drinking from a fountain on turn 2401 11:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Hum Fem Una), 998 points, T:2165, killed by a gnome lady 11:26 <@luxidream> And getting a wish 11:26 now I kind of want to make it possible to wish for holes on the bottom of branch levels in slex's wizard mode just to see what would happen :P 11:27 mew is under the sanctum 11:27 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2115 11:27 lol luxidream 11:27 maybe the developer can fix that for you amy 11:27 hothraxxa: yeah but she's not at home right now 11:27 @luxidream https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/blob/master/dat/engrave.txt#L110 11:29 <@luxidream> lol aosdict 11:29 <@luxidream> I’m glad someone got it at least 11:30 did anything get revealed about it by the nintendo leaks? I didn't pay much attention at the time 11:30 some higher res thing of the fountain sign maybe? 11:30 <@luxidream> I thought luigi model was found 11:30 <@luxidream> in sm64 11:31 oh sweet 11:31 <@luxidream> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eurogamer.net/amp/2020-07-27-25-years-later-nintendo-fans-have-finally-found-luigi-in-super-mario-64 11:31 google amp >:( 11:31 <@luxidream> My bad 11:31 <@luxidream> Let me find another link 11:32 <@luxidream> https://nintendoeverything.com/video-luigi-development-model-finally-restored-in-super-mario-64-after-24-years/ 11:35 !booze 11:35 * Beholder passes nabru a schooner of booze, fermented by demogorgon at -20 degrees Celsius. 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2111 11:36 hmm, could cursed/confused scroll of tele do anything fun with this? 11:39 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a wooden curved sword named Sword of the End on an altar, on T:3603 11:39 <@luxidream> Once you get into the infinite depths of hell maybe 11:40 so nothing at the top of the fake-mines then? 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3340 11:42 <@luxidream> I’d assume that trying to go to a negative level still kills you 11:43 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 11211 points, T:3756, offed by a mumak 11:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:4000 11:45 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 58 points, T:338, killed by a spear 11:47 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 141 points, T:260, offed by a fox 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4624 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4695 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:7756 11:49 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 93 points, T:326, dismembered by a fox 11:53 luxidream, I just compiled fh locally 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2382 points, T:3064, killed by uninjured Mr. Angmagssalik; the shopkeeper 11:54 2401 is a cool number 11:54 7**3 11:54 idk if it's wizard mode only or not but you can just zap digging downwards yourself, don't need a monster 11:54 anyway lets try digging down in the sanctum 11:54 wait no 11:55 7**67**4 11:55 7^4 isn't it? 11:55 7**4 11:56 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 517 points, T:1412, killed by a giant ant 11:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:31770 11:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:31780 12:02 <@luxidream> Astral escape item meta 12:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1001 points, T:2084, killed by a giant spider 12:02 <@luxidream> What happened amateurhour 12:03 sanctum undiggable :/ 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nelennath (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 5141 points, T:5428, killed by an uninjured snake 12:05 <@luxidream> noooo 12:05 but interestingly this time quest goal pit took me to the quest again 12:05 so I'm now wondering if I can keep going down it 12:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiteress, on T:11459 12:11 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:12 if you go from the quest to the quest once 12:12 you have an eternal set of upwards staircases 12:13 keeps generating new quest filler floors 12:13 this would be epic for the priest quest 12:15 omg 12:15 it's not infinite 12:15 I kept going upwards and ended up in the sanctum 12:15 it's gotta be to do with which order you load branches or something 12:16 I have to try it again but 12:16 'normally' instead of going to the sanctum at all beforehand 12:16 maybe if you never go to the mines at all something epic happens if you fall through the quest 12:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33487 12:19 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:20 <@luxidream> It’s unfortunate that in nethack all the funny speedrun glitches are patched out 12:20 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:25951 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 42553 points, T:12129, killed by a watch captain 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:7060 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7060 12:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:12811 12:32 looks like it can only send you to branches you've been to before 12:33 or something like that 12:34 gonna give up on messing around with it for now 12:35 when I get home, I want to implement wizmode-wishing for holes in slex and experiment with that :D 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had a steel stout spear entrusted to her by Venus, on T:9504 12:35 sadly I have to wait until my roommate is finally ready to drive me home 12:36 can you not wish for traps in slex? 12:37 you can, but if you wish for a hole on a level that cannot have one, it automatically turns into a pit 12:37 you can, however, wish for a magic portal, and triggering that causes DYWYPI even in wizard mode 12:38 ah 12:40 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:40 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 12:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:10136 12:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:10138 12:43 well, gtg now, will hopefully be at home soon 12:43 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:43 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5248 points, T:5736, killed by a fox 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1673 12:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:14957 12:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3565 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2200 points, T:1924, killed by a wounded watchman 12:51 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 12:52 <@nabru> !pom 12:52 @nabru: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 11 days. 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:11949 12:54 <@luxidream> !whereis elenmirie 12:54 @luxidream: elenmirie is not playing. 12:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3955 12:55 !whereis luxidream 12:55 amateurhour: luxidream is not playing. 12:56 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4093 12:59 !whereis amateurhour 12:59 aoei: amateurhour is not playing. 13:02 elenmirie__: have you beat sub-4h yet? :3 13:03 <@luxidream> well I saw a priest kill at 10k 13:03 <@luxidream> So something is happening 13:03 :o 13:03 oh yeah 13:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2146 13:04 * aoei just noticed it in backlog 13:04 10k is nice turncount too 13:05 <@luxidream> !whereis elenmirie 13:05 @luxidream: elenmirie is not playing. 13:05 maybe she saved for dinner 13:05 it's 6pm in the UK 13:05 * aoei is also making dinner now lol 13:05 <@luxidream> bleh 13:06 do yuo have impatience and/or add issues lux :D 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:14299 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 21688 points, T:14532, killed by a wounded troll 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2391 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 70 points, T:289, killed by an orcish dagger 13:13 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 13:13 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 13:13 i think in theory we could work out her current time from ttyrecs 13:14 but easier to wait til she ascends lol 13:14 <@luxidream> not downloading all of that 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 243 points, T:556, killed by a wounded bat 13:14 exactly lol 13:14 at least if you do it in one sitting it's one ttyrec lol 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:76661 13:17 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10387 13:18 <@luxidream> dnh has a "showrealtime" option 13:19 <@luxidream> can we get this in vanilla 13:19 <@luxidream> it's so annoying to do splits 13:20 might be worth opening a PR 13:20 maybe hdf would take it even if upstream wouldn't? idk 13:20 hwat does dnh showrealtime do? 13:20 wait i think i can guess 13:20 basically you dont need your own timer app? 13:21 <@luxidream> it shows realtime on the status bar 13:21 <@luxidream> idk if vanilla could take it, xlogfile patch is not part of vanilla right? 13:22 i ... am actually not sure lol 13:22 <@luxidream> actually, there was a bug with realtime a while back, vanilla does track realtime somehow 13:22 xlogfile exists in vanilla 13:22 idk if that's the 'xlogfile patch' 13:22 <@luxidream> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/issues/270 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 23139 points, T:3238, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:52046 13:29 i probably read something outdated that said that xlogfile was an nao addition and not part of vanilla 13:30 !whereis elenmirie 13:30 luxidream2: elenmirie is not playing. 13:30 reeeee 13:30 have patience dear boy 13:36 it probably was originally I guess 13:36 <@p0werm0de> dual weapon basic viable for archeologist or no 2nd saber for expert 1h grayswandir? 13:37 <@riker> totally viable 13:37 yes it absoluely is viable 13:37 <@p0werm0de> kk 13:37 the game still generates a logfile and xlogfile separately 13:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:26882 13:37 what does xnh do? puts one inside the other? 13:37 yo lawg 13:38 lol 13:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26885 13:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:18916 13:39 i put an xlog in your dumplog so u can take x while u take a dump 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 79 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:78757 13:40 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:41 -!- Kontroller has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:6181 13:42 xnh generates them separately like vanilla because I see no reason to change it until vanilla does 13:42 I'm not sure if anyone out there is reading the regular logfile for anything anymore, but someone might 13:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:14020 13:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:44 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 13:44 time to experiment with slex's minus world mode, inspired by FIQhack and amateurhour! :D 13:45 nice 13:46 <@riker> what's that do amy? 13:46 <@riker> fiqhack in a botle? 13:47 @riker: dunno yet, didn't test but will soon 13:47 <@riker> wands should all explode 13:47 s - a blessed potion of FIQHack 13:47 <@riker> ok wait - i mean "wand beams should make explosions when they hit" 13:47 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:49 dotrap: holes cannot exist on this level. Program in disorder. Please inform Amy blah blah... 13:49 gotta work around that for testing purposes :P 13:49 well did you follow the message's instructions? 13:49 head to the irc channel and report it 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6826 13:51 alright gonna test what happens if I bypass that 13:51 wish me luck! 13:51 There's a gaping hole under you! You don't fall in. 13:51 ...why not :( 13:51 if a wizard-mode user wants to create a hole on a floor, then by golly they should be allowed to 13:52 just press > to hop into it 13:52 my char just refuses to fall through the hole??? 13:52 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 13:53 it's probs not possible in most variants, just a new fiqhack thing, idk 13:53 what happens if you're over the hole and press > ? 13:53 alright, disabled *that* check too, let's see what happens now... 13:53 well that's what I was doing 13:53 there's a cant_fall_through check though 13:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Premium Heart", on T:16619 13:54 There's a gaping hole under you! 13:54 but nothing happens at all, I'm still on the same level 13:54 fair enough 13:55 yeah nothing happens 13:56 let's try making it so that Can_fall_thru always evaluates to TRUE 13:56 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 13:56 nope, still nothing 13:56 blah, how the hell did FIQ manage to create such a glitch, I want that in slex too 13:57 reworking dungeon branches generally 13:57 need to look at his trapdoor function I guess 13:58 because (I guess you already anticipated this) I want that glitch to exist in slex under certain circumstances :P 13:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excavator, on T:25346 13:58 <{Demo}> it's cool 13:58 <{Demo}> as shit 13:58 <{Demo}> it's what I'm here for 13:58 dtmp = get_level_destination(level, newlevel); 13:59 ^^ is the line in FIQhack, which is wildly different from what I have in slex 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 326 points, T:185, killed by a dagger 13:59 amateurhour: which branch did you compile locally? development? 13:59 yeah 13:59 okay, cloned that 14:00 the branch you get sent to depends on branches you've been to before it seems 14:00 probs won't be able to compile it locally myself but at least I'll have the code available :D 14:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Mal Cha) stole 147 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Siverek's used armor dealership, on T:21207 14:01 update your os to some sane linux distro already 14:01 it is time 14:01 amateurhour vanishes, leaving an empty bottle 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 140 points, T:247, killed by a wounded gnome 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:11199 14:03 <{Demo}> amy runs windows xp 14:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:25515 14:04 yeah 14:04 it's time for an update 14:05 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2853 points, T:14968, killed by a fire ant 14:06 okay so newlevel is always 0 if there's no further level in this dungeon, bleh 14:06 let's see what happens if I set that to 1 14:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:17321 14:08 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2781 14:09 nope, still nothing 14:09 you might have to write something custom 14:10 yeah I'm on it 14:11 is it really minusworld if you have to manually write custom code to make it work 14:12 not necessarily, but I'm trying to get *some*thing to happen at least 14:15 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 14:17 It seems that you have to undertake some quest outside of the spaceship! What could be the trouble the Darknet Gater mentioned? 14:17 hole on lowest mines level took me to the first level of the quest :D 14:17 nice 14:17 you gotta try it on all the space base ones now 14:17 and the hole there took me to the first subquest level 14:18 Space Base:46 took me to Sewer Plant:45 14:18 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:18 however, the way I coded it is actually deterministic, it always goes to the first level of the next branch in the internal list, so that's still rather boring right now 14:19 that's not boring that's epic 14:19 can you go from the bottom of the illusory mines for example to that 100 floor tower 14:20 then from the 100 floor tower go to the sanctum? 14:20 tried it on the plane of earth just now: appeared back on level 1 of the dungeon 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:12137 14:21 hole on vlad's tower goes to yendorian tower 14:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:26692 14:22 hole on bottom of yendorian tower goes to forging chamber, i.e. one of the three amulet-imbuing subdungeons 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:9486 14:22 and... hole on resting zone S (subdungeon in the swimming pools) goes to plane of earth! :D 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:9546 14:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:23456 14:24 okay, now let's try again without setting dlevel to 1 14:25 but, for a real in-game feature I'll want to make it so that it only goes to branches the player has already visited 14:25 boooo 14:25 hisssss 14:27 would be consistent with the one in fiqhack though ;) 14:28 it should have a small chance of taking you to a crashy branch with corrupted items and missingnos 14:28 see how many bug reports you get about that 14:29 heh, one that says "amy fix that or slex is removed" 14:29 * amateurhour slides over 1 zorkmid 14:29 how're you feeling about letting us go to random branches now? 14:29 gah, trying to make it so that it doesn't go to non-visited branches causes the game to hang 14:30 ok it doesn't have to be crashy 14:30 but can it have missingnos and corrupted items 14:30 luxidream2: probably not 14:30 and cows for a sweet diablo 2 reference 14:30 amateurhour: that would be an idea, making it so that it goes to a random already-visited branch (I was planning to have that as a feature anyway) 14:30 oh sorry one sec 14:30 * amateurhour slides over another zorkmid 14:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:8181 14:31 how're you feeling about letting us go to random unvisited branches now? 14:31 amy being against adding more content to slex? 14:31 impossible 14:31 well game crashes aren't what I want in my game 14:31 I said excluding the game crashes 14:32 https://diablo.gamepedia.com/Secret_Cow_Level_(Diablo_II) 14:32 missingno monsters are a thing; I miiiiiiight make a branch that can only be accessed via such a convoluted way and that spawns them more often :P 14:32 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 14:32 in fact, idea! the random teleport-to-a-branch thing could have 1% chance of sending the player to the missingno branch :P 14:32 -!- bort13 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:33 that's... what luxidream was saying 14:33 :D 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed antigulp's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2315 14:33 >it should have a small chance of taking you to a crashy branch with corrupted items and missingnos 14:33 okay so I'll code a randomizer now, which will select a random already-visited branch 14:33 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Sla Goa Mal Cha), 3336 points, T:1556, killed by a monster (gnome lord) 14:34 amateurhour: it looks like the cow level is accessible and part of the game? 14:35 they added it in diablo 2 because there were so many rumours back in the day about how to access a secret cow level in diablo 1 14:36 there's no in-game hint about the cow level though, so if you don't know how to access it, you likely won't find out 14:36 unspoiled, that is 14:36 a bit like all the theorising about how to get mew from that truck near the ss anne 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2907 14:37 I can only imagine all the rumours that would circulate about nethack if it weren't open source 14:38 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:38 very likely without it being open source it'd have become abandonware long ago 14:38 even with that the number of people who thought quantum mechanic corpses gave teleport control is surprisingly high 14:40 ? 14:42 aosdict: what are some famous examples of that 14:42 I'm curious 14:42 closed source games that became abandonware? 14:42 yes 14:43 I mean sites like GOG probs have the famous ones 14:43 so are they technically abandonware now? 14:43 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 9594 points, T:6370, quit 14:44 yeah I just did a web search for "abandonware" and the top hits are sites offering tens of thousands of abandoned games 14:45 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 14:46 I see rogue on there 14:46 rogue probably qualifies as abandonware because there is no official support for it 14:46 rogue is also now on steam 14:46 1985 ibm port 14:46 https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443430/Rogue/ 14:47 by a third party that has nothing to do with the devs :| 14:47 but remember, nethack is also on stream 14:47 by the company that did the 1985 port, idk how it all works 14:47 steam* 14:47 oh yeah that's true 14:48 nethack basically was abandonware if it wasn't for the modding community and the leak 14:48 well and for the fact that the devteam was in fact still working behind the cathedral walls 14:48 i really don't think the devteam would have released 3.6 in any other case 14:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:27388 14:49 the state of the project after 10 years was desolate 14:49 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:49 or what was it 14:49 12 years 14:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 72288 points, T:26673, petrified by a heavily wounded cockatrice 14:49 the modding community consisted of what? 14:49 slashem? 14:49 at least she managed to heavily wound it for the next guy 14:49 unnethack, sporkhack 14:49 grunthack 14:49 nethack4 14:50 acehack 14:50 most variants that exist today existed at the time of the leak 14:50 dnethack 14:50 only the post 3.6 ones didn't 14:50 as a new player I was under the impression that slashem was the only variant 14:50 thanks wiki 14:50 <@p0werm0de> so far so good 14:50 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/795016249930285076/unknown.png 14:50 *this impression was made by the slashem gang* 14:51 haha nice one p0werm0de 14:51 luxidream: that's also due to dnh wiki editors being fairly insular (no opinion on whether that's healthy for the wiki or not) 14:52 if each variant was properly namespaced and had proper articles I would be happy 14:52 NAOhack was basically also a variant even though paxed would slay me for this 14:52 and NAOhack was by far the most played nethack 14:52 because even though a changelog might be fine for some people it's bad for most 14:52 well it just depends on what the community accepts as standard, stenno 14:52 naohack fixes astral call and other things players considered cheap? 14:53 poor fourk 14:53 tons of patches 14:53 heavily patched 14:53 also astral call was a 3.4.3 spoiler bug 14:53 fourk's wiki presence killed by the mentality that the developers should be hands off and rely on players to put stuff on the wiki 14:53 but the devteam didn't release any bugfixes, they just marked it as 'fixed' 14:54 <{Demo}> naohack best nethack 14:54 so the variant devs had to figure out themself how to patch it 14:54 <{Demo}> naohack is the definitive version of nethack 14:54 that's a feedback loop: if your variant has barely any wiki presence, no one will play it, so no one will put stuff on the wiki 14:54 <{Demo}> yes 14:55 Very trure 14:55 there were like 1-2 people who had sporadic contact to the devteam 14:55 true* 14:55 ais talked to patr a few times 14:55 you just gotta get those power-editors playing 14:55 Like me 14:55 <{Demo}> for all the shit I give modern vanilla and the DT 14:55 :D 14:55 and there were like 2-3 rgrn answers 14:55 but that was about it regarding communication 14:55 <{Demo}> holy shit am I glad they do shit out in the open now 14:55 grease the palms of a few influencers by sending them free wands of wishing in the post 14:55 <{Demo}> it is fucking awesome 14:55 yes, me too 14:55 <{Demo}> but also, I'm of the opinion that dnethack is what nethack once was 14:56 <{Demo}> with the community involvement around the development 14:56 hot take 14:56 <{Demo}> or like, what nethack once wished to be 14:56 <{Demo}> meant to be 14:57 you can't play dnethack without compiling it or figuring out where hdf is 14:57 Also v. true 14:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:27490 14:57 yeah submitting code to the devteam still feels like coming in supplication in the hope that they will deign to accept the offering 14:58 okay so, the random branchport RNG I created is working: it randomly selects a branch that the player has visited and teleports them to a random dungeon level from top of that branch to deepest level visited in that branch 14:58 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1830 14:58 but, I can also create one that can roll branches the player has not visited yet, for an even nastier version of banishment :P 14:58 LarienTelrunya: fr Abyss 14:58 "Arabella zaps a wand of branch banishment! You land on level 46 of the Illusory Castle!" 14:59 Hi Amy 15:00 yoooooo Umbire, what's with the slex wiki page you want to create, is that nethackwiki or att? 15:00 ATT 15:00 aww, well I guess it could still be fun 15:01 You seem to have a lot of the former stuff in order (though I'd be willing to fill in the gaps where needed) 15:01 but I was hoping you'd be trying to create a slex article on nethackwiki 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:84968 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:84968 15:01 ...isn't there one already? 15:01 yeah, that's why I was wondering until I got told that it wasn't nhwiki-related 15:01 it's not great 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1336 points, T:12477, quit 15:05 <{Demo}> if ndnh2 happens I'm gonna try to actually document shit on the wiki 15:06 <{Demo}> ndnh2 = rewrite of ndnh onto modern dnh 15:06 I'm always willing to help wikify stuff where possible, too 15:06 (when my wi-fi cooperates anyway) 15:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:27938 15:07 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 15:08 Hi qt 15:08 hey Umbire 15:08 qt: Message from aosdict at 2021-01-01 08:48 EST: grats on bones msg pr merge 15:08 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 15:09 'lo person 15:09 -!- sebastiantoby is now known as Kontroller 15:09 -!- luxidream has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:09 gz on bones msg pr merge 15:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:27939 15:09 I was really surprised by that 15:10 maybe refactoring that loop really was the key lol 15:10 <@luxidream> unflip soko merge when 15:10 ^^^^^^ 15:12 <@luxidream> wonder how hard it is for blind players to figure out the orientation of the level 15:12 I actually just watched that Roguelike Celebration talk about accessibility features for blind people in NetHack 15:12 Really interesting talk! 15:13 Have you seen it luxi 15:13 <@luxidream> I watched it too 15:13 o: 15:13 I want a link to this 15:13 <@luxidream> I want to do a blindfolded run at some point 15:13 most(all?) of those ideas have been integrated in 3.6+ 15:13 Umbire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_8sHtr62Bo 15:13 <@luxidream> so it was interesting information for me 15:13 there's a beginner nethack player streaming on twitch now 15:14 Thank ye qt 15:14 OH 15:14 OHOHOH 15:14 WHERE 15:14 they're currently opening their first chest or something 15:14 they've never looted a container before it seems 15:14 <@luxidream> yeah I tried it out a bit paxed 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:5455 15:14 <@luxidream> Works very nicely 15:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20907 15:15 the player appears to legit have never played before, this is cute 15:15 <@luxidream> It’s still hard for me to get an idea of the shape of rooms and where secret doors are 15:16 <@luxidream> But maybe actual blind players are better at that than I am 15:16 paxed: is there an option to turn off the map entirely? that was the one that surprised me the most in the video 15:16 that many of the blind players requested that 15:17 amateurhour: are you talking about the one called "I'm not sure how to play this game..."? 15:18 yeah 15:18 qt: none of the blind players i've talked with have requested that feature, and i don't think it has been requested from the team before 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:87232 15:19 (admittedly, i've only talked with like 3 blind players, so not a big sample) 15:19 It might have been something about the way her particular team positioned the messages? She said that people complained that when they tried to use the "list all the things you can see" feature the screen reader would then just keep reading out the whole map every time 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Nelennath's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6970 15:20 is this for the tty or the curses port? with the curses you can position the message are at a different place 15:20 qt: oh. that can be fixed with the menu_overlay option 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2090 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 24 points, T:215, killed by an uninjured jackal 15:23 qt: i think i even expanded the blind playing section of the guidebook to list all the options meant to help 15:23 Yeah I was just looking at that 15:24 I'm sure that has helped people avoid that problem, maybe she just didn't know about it at the time of the project 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 27 points, T:397, killed by a nearly deceased kobold 15:25 qt: it was my own patch for 343, which i applied to nao 15:26 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4962 points, T:4646, killed by a white unicorn 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2489 15:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 325 points, T:1130, killed by an uninjured small mimic 15:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2011 points, T:2076, killed by a wolf 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 14437 points, T:10249, killed by a watch captain 15:29 I wonder if she has published results of that project, it would be interesting to read more in-depth the feedback they got from the blind playtesters and so on 15:29 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 151 points, T:706, killed by a green mold 15:31 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 1955 points, T:2304, overpowered by a Woodland-elf 15:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Quicksilver", on T:21835 15:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:17970 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3309 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3309 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9267 15:33 [hdf-us] [spl] spleen (Bar Orc Nbn Cha), 11 points, T:131, cut down by a sewer rat 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3056 15:33 qt: quite a lot of the cursor targeting stuff was inspired by it 15:35 K2: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/c885fb33ee :D thanks for the inspiration! 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh4] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3686 points, T:7, quit 15:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 9105 points, T:10157, killed by an uninjured mumak 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3498 15:36 bleh can't connect to chat for some reason 15:37 how to delete the memory of a git commit from my brain 15:37 * nabru gives amateurhour a scroll of amnesia 15:37 Maybe this helps 15:38 thanks nabru, I knew I could count on you 15:38 reminder to future self: don't click the above link 15:38 lol amateurhour 15:38 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 260 points, T:641, killed by a silver dagger 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:10260 15:39 wasn't Andrio the inspiration for that? or me? 15:39 nevertheless, I don't really mind not having my name attached to that commit :P 15:42 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 15:42 ah twitch chat went down 15:43 chat is already down for a few minutes now 15:43 yeah 15:43 my bet is some graphql service kicked the bucket 15:43 if in doubt blame graphql 15:43 twitch basically sucks 15:44 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 194 points, T:568, killed by a bat 15:44 twitch is just an inferior copy of dgl and mail daemons, change my view 15:44 omg LarienTelrunya 15:44 ? 15:45 <{Demo}> never let the game win 15:45 damn, did I mis-attribute the inspiration? 15:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:46 oh the "cannot lie" part was in fact inspired by Andrio 15:46 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 71 points, T:177, killed by a bolt of cold 15:46 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 474 points, T:983, mowed down by a dwarf 15:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:10865 15:47 the new player on twitch was stood over a wererat corpse, saying 'I don't think you can cook stuff...' 15:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 58 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:10869 15:47 goto still alive and kicking 15:47 and I can't tell them in chat to absolutely not eat that corpse 15:47 :C 15:47 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 15:47 point them at splicehack 15:47 LarienTelrunya: What'd you add? 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3179 points, T:3327, killed by a wounded cave spider 15:47 look at most recent slex commmit 15:47 Umbire: uhh click on the link if you dare, but I guess various folks will tell you not to :P 15:48 wait that stream is still going on? after a while it said "unless you are a time traveler you can't access this content" so I thought it was over 15:48 What link? 15:48 yeah twitch is having problems 15:48 but the stream is still up 15:48 also yeah twitch is being extra dogshit rn 15:48 Umbire: uhh scroll up for maybe two screens or so? 15:48 I rejoined like 5 minutes ago 15:49 oh. well, (WARNING: possibly NSFW) https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/c885fb33ee 15:49 Wait, nvm, the link came in before I DC'd 15:49 oh 15:49 * Umbire shrugs 15:49 <{Demo}> lmfao wtf is this 15:49 why can't the butt lover lie? I don't get it 15:49 they're quaffing from a fountain because of 'You could drink the water...' 15:49 #hardfought has logs stored on the site, if you missed a link go read it there instead of asking to repost it 15:49 They love big butts. 15:49 ...you know the rest 15:49 ohh lol 15:50 It's weird yeah but then it's SLEX so 15:50 does this mean George Washington was a lover of butts? 15:50 no, that's a *very* nethacky interpretation of a pop culture line 15:51 Yeah Muad I thought of George Washington at first too 15:51 Now it all makes sense 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:11871 15:51 Muad: that story was made up so can't really extrapolate there 15:52 Well George Washington as a cultural figure and George Washington as a man are two very different things, really. So you could at least say George Washington as he exists in the minds of the people loves butts 15:52 welcome to the desert of the real 15:53 ahhhh they're forcing locks with their longsword 15:53 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 796 points, T:1712, killed by Ms. Sipaliwini, the shopkeeper 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 65383 points, T:12398, killed by an uninjured rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:53 amateurhour: sit back and watch the hard knocks happen 15:53 !lastgame wintergalaxy88 15:53 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/wintergalaxy88/nethack/dumplog/1609615249.nh.html 15:55 aaaaa 15:55 <@the_eternal_paradox> grrr 15:55 bbbb 15:55 ELEVEN rocks!? 15:57 any links to slex source code should be regarded nsfw 15:58 Is he playing 343 or does he just have autodescribe turned off? 15:58 which stream is that? 15:58 I'm not sure, I was gonna ask what version but chat died 15:58 nabru: https://www.twitch.tv/secretgrey 15:58 thanks qt, let me tune in 15:58 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 1315 points, T:1734, overpowered by a hobgoblin, while praying 15:58 [hdf-us] [fh] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Cha) received Stormbringer from Loki, on T:13469 15:59 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by a little dart 16:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 45 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:11117 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7100 16:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28706 16:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:23469 16:02 amateurhour: https://status.twitch.tv/ 16:03 yeah 16:03 been pressing f5 on that for a while 16:03 awww the guy is asking for our assistance and we can't reply 16:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:11217 16:04 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Cam Unb Mal Neu), 8316 points, T:2551, killed by a monster (martial artist) 16:06 woot chat's back for me 16:07 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1146 16:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5099 points, T:3612, killed by a leocrotta 16:08 yep, seeing your messages there 16:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "3 cursed potions of gain level", on T:11311 16:12 amateurhour: Should I tell them about the Mines or have them curse-test the mail 16:13 they've heard of cursed stuff but don't know how to test 16:18 <@nabru> he apparently got teleportits 16:18 <@nabru> *teleportitis 16:19 oh dear 16:20 new artifact: Teleportits, a fleecy corset that conveys teleportitis :P 16:20 :D 16:23 gj nabru 16:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:24906 16:27 -!- blister has quit [] 16:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:31056 16:29 do they know about prayer, amateurhour? 16:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31058 16:30 I don't know 16:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Spelunker, on T:31063 16:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:25900 16:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:12079 16:40 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4050 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 19262 points, T:15092, killed by a wounded vampire lord 16:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:12210 16:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:12312 16:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1428 points, T:1460, killed by a large cat 16:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) became the Grandmaster of Balance, on T:26207 16:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:12319 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:27062 16:48 I hope the guy on twitch knows to switch back to his sword after rubbing the lamp 16:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:12365 16:49 they'll find out quickly :P 16:49 it's hard to balance preventing spoilers and trying to stop Bad Things a-Happenin' 16:50 Yeah I don't have a twitch account so I can't chat anyway but it does seem better to let the streamer figure most stuff out for themselves 16:50 idk how they knew they could rub lamps 16:51 I guess they have a list of the controls open 16:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:27141 16:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an uninjured renegade Angel of Poseidon), on T:12394 16:53 they probably intuited it from common fictional tropes 16:53 yay elenmirie__ 16:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 981950 points, T:12402, ascended 16:53 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/nethack/dumplog/1609580601.nh.html 16:53 congrats elenmirie__ 16:54 haha lifesaved twice on astral 16:54 thanks! 16:54 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5496 16:54 is this stream audio only coming in on the left channel for everyone else 16:54 congrats elenmirie__! 16:54 thanks 16:55 gratz! 16:55 ty 16:55 LarienTelrunya: what glitch are you talking about? 16:55 FIQ: Message from amateurhour at 2021-01-02 10:00 EST: when applying a pickaxe towards a boulder in a corner I got a floor of 'You try to move the boulder' messages mid-swinging 16:55 FIQ: Message from amateurhour at 2021-01-02 10:51 EST: a nurse made a hole in kaen's lair with wand of digging, falling through loaded mines end but I'm on Home:0 16:55 ^^ this one :D 16:55 oh yeah that's epic 16:55 E P I C 16:55 you may well have made a hall of fame bug ;) 16:56 <{Demo}> it absolutely is 16:56 oh 16:56 pages and pages of chat about this 16:56 a while back I tried to refactor things so that you could have more fancy dungeon topology 16:56 as a side effect, holes/trap doors can now transport you between branches 16:57 if you play a priest and never visit any side branches before the quest, and dig through quest floor 16:57 for example, Sokoban's first floor in fh is holes instead of pits now 16:57 however, it seems like there's still a few kinks I have to iron out 16:57 then you can keep going up infinite numbers of floors and collect normal priest quest loot 16:57 GG elenmirie__! 16:57 wait, the glitch is actually intentional??? 16:57 no 16:57 LarienTelrunya: well, no 16:57 thanks Umbire 16:57 but the cross-branch movement is 16:58 oh, so only the quest-fallthrough-to-negative-level-number one is 16:58 however, the Quest should probably not be allowed to move you to other branches (and same with Ludios presumably) 16:58 but I think Ludios is already restricted 16:58 maybe I forgot to fix the quest 16:58 ludios was unfortunately rather boring and just plonked me in the dungeons of doom 16:58 I should probably restrict Ludios too 16:58 imagine how stacked your character would be after like 50 floors of priest quest loot 16:58 while the behaviour makes sense from what I wanted to do, it doesn't make much flavour sense 16:59 to allow moving y-level in Ludios 16:59 since it's supposed to be some sort of pocket dimension 16:59 <{Demo}> wild 16:59 <{Demo}> why did quest end up in mines? 16:59 I have no idea 16:59 it should end up in dungeons of doom 16:59 https://0x0.st/-rCV.png 17:00 basically, the way the code works is that it traverses the dungeon tree to the closest parent 17:00 which should be the dungeons of doom 17:00 <{Demo}> if you find out why and can give us an autopsy on this very cool bug, you ought to 17:00 and then it should plonk you there 17:00 no idea why it ends in the mines instead 17:00 if you don't go to the mines ever before then, it places you on a quest filler floor 17:00 amateurhour: what happens if you go upstairs there 17:00 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 17:00 you go to home:-1 17:01 and can keep going up 17:01 hm I wonder if my code fails to find the quest-DoD connection and just gives up 17:01 and doing undefined shit 17:01 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 17:01 amateurhour: I assume it fixes itself once you use the mines branch stairs? 17:01 yeah 17:01 I can actually do it for you now if you like 17:01 still got my game around 17:02 I'll wiztest 17:02 try not visiting the mines first as well, you'll end up in the infinite staircase of quest fillter floors :) 17:02 think I got to about Home:-55 or so before a panic was thrown about rn2(0) or something 17:02 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02 in wizard mode 17:03 yeah eventually the game would probably run out of dungeon floors 17:03 it can only store up to 127 17:03 after that, bad things happen 17:04 the bug should be easy to "fix" since the game shouldn't allow you to move outside the confines of quest or knox 17:04 but I'm curious what causes this bizarre behaviour 17:04 errm... 127 levels max, yes? 17:04 *proudly presents variant with 594 dungeon levels total* :P 17:05 * amateurhour sticks it on the fridge with a magnet 17:05 well, exactly Amy 17:05 bad things happen 17:05 lol 17:05 that is the exact number in the upcoming version 2.70 by the way, counting dungeons of doom, gehennom and all the side dungeons including the planes 17:05 amateurhour: you are then pushed out of your house by the tidal wave of slex's sheer size 17:06 LarienTelrunya: no variability? don't some of the quests have a variable number of levels? 17:06 nah in slex all branches have a fixed # of levels; where it was randomized in vanilla, slex always uses the maximum amount 17:07 oh I think I know why it moves you to Home:0 specifically 17:07 because why would it be sometimes nice 17:07 <@nabru> YASI: when you get to level 256 you get a glitched level, in homage to Pac-man's level 256 glitch 17:07 rather than the more logical Home:7 (or Home:6 if it only generated 5 quest levels) 17:07 because the game insists on pretending quest levels go from 1-5 or 1-6 17:07 <@nabru> https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/5ct53h/why_does_the_pacman_game_glitch_badly_on_level_256/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share 17:07 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 17:08 but internally it is a bit unsure because it's also treated as whatever level the quest portal spawned on + 5 or 6 17:08 I guess this confusion is what leads you to Home:0 when the game tries to track down where it should put you 17:08 rather than Home:7 17:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:29940 17:10 oh we should probably also mention that falling through the hole in FH's quest and ending up on "Home:0" causes all monsters to be invisible, even if the player has see invis, because they require double see invis to see like in slex :P 17:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:11 hmm. if I throw a bullwhip, bow or sling at a monster, does it deal the base damage of that weapon? 17:11 or rubber hose, which is even more than any of those 17:13 [hdf-us] [fh] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Cha), 72774 points, T:13865, quit 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:53521 17:14 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 17:15 gotta go to sleep now though; good night and happy glitching :) 17:15 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:15 oh yeah forgot about that whack invis thing 17:15 sleep well Amy 17:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:32507 17:17 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53537 17:18 [hdf-us] [fh] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu), 13676 points, T:581, killed by a gas spore's explosion 17:18 that was fun 17:19 shame he got eaten by werewolves 17:20 damn the werewolves 17:22 was that just normal commiseration over werewolves, or a reference to Farragut? 17:22 farawhat 17:22 ok I figured out the problem 17:23 ooh 17:23 so in the "figure out if we should allow moving on from here" check, I wanted to disallow it if a) the bottom level has no branch stairs, or b) if the branch connection is a dungeon portal 17:23 Umbire: https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/damn+the+torpedoes%2c+full+steam+ahead 17:23 however, what I really did was the exact reverse 17:23 o 17:23 basically making the check completely redundant 17:24 "if this floor has no branch connection, or the connection is a portal, we should allow moving on from here" 17:24 any idea why all the monsters in the mines were invisible? 17:24 amateurhour: hmm? 17:25 falling from quest to mines, exploring those fake mines has every monster invisible 17:25 I can show you if you ike 17:25 that is probably because the vision code assumes you're on a seperate dungeon level 17:25 because they're in the mines 17:25 while you're in the quest 17:26 ah 17:26 There's still a monster there. It bumps right into you! 17:27 angered the watch a fair bit by bumping into them, oopsies :) 17:29 I also fixed a minor bug wrt digging down 17:29 which made it possible for you to escape the trap you made 17:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:28590 17:30 !tell K2 pushed a fix 17:30 I'm on it, FIQ. 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:27313 17:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16171 17:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:33369 17:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:30646 17:37 amateurhour: btw, with the glitch, I think it's possible that the infinite quest levels would eventually take you to sanctum? 17:37 due to how dungeon topology is created 17:37 not 100% on that though 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:27340 17:37 I suspected it'd be the case but I got bored after like Home:-65 17:38 it panicked at like -55 or so for rng reasons, and idk if restoring would have changed things 17:39 !tell LarienTelrunya if you want to mimic fiqhack behaviour, check out the function get_level_destination() 17:39 LarienTelrunya shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, FIQ. 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:2029 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2499 points, T:2037, killed by an uninjured gargoyle 17:40 <{Demo}> caffeine crash + playing factorio :( 17:41 the problem is probably my branch seeking code 17:42 because it assumes that there is a valid branch connection somewhere 17:42 but due to the faulty check in is_bottom, there might not be 17:42 which causes weird shit to happen 17:46 it's probably too slow for a speedrun but it'd be pretty neat if someone did a fiqhack speedrun using it 17:47 [hdf-us] [fh] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu) received Mjollnir from Odin, on T:5256 17:47 blaze it to the quest, get level 10 for the quest with teleport control and teleportitis 17:47 head to the bottom, dig down, go up like 100 floors 17:47 or however many it is 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:27393 17:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of drain resistance", on T:30418 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful soldier ant, on T:27397 17:49 amateurhour: btw I tried to go to Quest minus levels long enough pre-patch 17:49 at Quest:-60, I get a confirmation prompt warning me that I can't return if I leave 17:49 huh 17:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:50 no sanctum then 17:50 :( 17:52 actually it seems like Quest:-60 is the same level as Dungeons:1 17:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:30606 17:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Nob Vam Fem Cha) was given the Rod of Lordly Might, on T:25553 17:53 and moving from Home:-60 downstairs take me to Dungeons:2 17:53 but moving down from there takes me to Home:-58 17:54 can you put the bug back in, make it so it can take you to the sanctum, mark that as a release version 17:54 then fix it again 17:54 <3 17:54 oh I didn't have that happen 17:54 once it took me back to the dungeons of doom everything was normal again 17:55 actually it seems like moving upwards in quest overwrote the entire dungeon 17:56 ooh, that's... 17:56 epic 17:56 I guess it was a good thing you explored the mines before you entered Home:0 17:56 or it would have replaced various dungeon levels with quest filler 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 621 points, T:1193, killed by an uninjured hobgoblin 17:56 yeah and as a monk that would have sucked a lot 17:56 priests on the other hand... 17:56 but since you had already generated the mines, there was no real damage done 17:56 amateurhour: yeah but like, it overwrote *everything* 17:57 oh, not just a few floors then 17:57 well, I guess it overwrote levels as I visited them 17:57 but since I went to Home:-60 17:57 it overwrote basically the entirety of the mines, and apparently also gehennom? 17:58 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:59 I guess that's unwinnable if you lose the sanctum 18:00 Unwinnable by Reality-Warping 18:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:35758 18:00 OK so 18:01 apparently Home:0 corresponds to Mines End, and whichever you generate first is the one that is used 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2957306 points, T:27417, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/F/Frozty/nethack/dumplog/1608313218.nh.html 18:01 and if you go upstairs from there from what the game considers mines end, you get mines filler 18:01 while if you do it from the quest, you get quest filler 18:02 after that, they both correspond to the same level 18:02 if your mines entrance is quest filler, you can continue 18:02 GG Frozty! 18:02 the level above that correspond to the Sanctum 18:02 so if you had gone upstairs at that point, you wouldn't have gotten a sanctum 18:03 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:11098 18:03 wait, is there a flag for visiting the sanctum? 18:03 can I now levelport to the sanctum? 18:03 no 18:03 ;_; 18:03 you never visited the sanctum 18:03 since going upwards in top of the mines took you to dungeons 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Geryon, on T:54004 18:04 since there was a branch stair to the dungeons there 18:04 this is a good thing 18:04 ah, so it's not just a particular Home:-n 18:04 because if you had continued going upwards using, say, cursed gain level 18:04 ok 18:04 K2: Message from FIQ at 2021-01-02 17:30 EST: pushed a fix 18:04 K2 wait a sec 18:04 I don't think you actually pushed it FIQ 18:05 er, apparently gain level works OK, but if you hadn't generated the mines top 18:05 and gone upstairs 18:05 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 21099 points, T:11114, slaughtered by a rock troll 18:05 you would have gone to what the game considers the sanctum, *but done so from the quest* 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:849 18:05 you would have gotten quest filler overwriting the sanctum level 18:05 however, if there was some way you could skip sanctum specifically and gone to what the game would consider the VS level 18:06 replacing that with quest filler 18:06 you could then later go to Gehennom proper 18:06 and from VS, go to the Sanctum using the downstairs there 18:06 (which would have generated since you previously generated it as quest filler) 18:06 ggs Luxidream 18:06 !tell K2 pushed the fix 18:06 Will do, FIQ! 18:07 apparently I forgot to push it lol 18:07 @luxidream if you want to try abuse this for a speedrun sometime for funsies^ 18:07 ok 18:07 K2: Message from FIQ at 2021-01-02 18:06 EST: pushed the fix 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1144 18:07 hmm 18:07 a level teleporter might do it 18:08 # git pull Already up to date. 18:08 ^ my fiqhack repo 18:08 oh ffs 18:08 still can't see it on github lol 18:08 you got some secret repo you're pushing to instead? 18:08 we're being trolled 18:08 no 18:08 :P 18:08 I'm just not logging in because I assumed it saved my session 18:08 fix soldiers being skilled in wands when 18:08 apparently I did this before too when I tried ot push the first time 18:08 K2: it should be there now 18:09 got it 18:10 someone less lazy than me should document this bug somewhere for if fiqhack speedrunning becomes a thing 18:10 landmark version with a strategy that no longer works 18:10 FIQhack updated (all servers) 18:10 I think fh still has branchport skip 18:10 I never bothered fixing that, figuring out player could mess with it if they wanted to 18:10 btw what happens with my current game 18:11 it still has holes in the special floors 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 500 points, T:1495, killed by a wounded giant bat 18:11 amateurhour: they shouldn't work anymore, there's a failsafe 18:11 okay, let's check that then 18:11 and even if they do, there wont be any fallout from the weirdness 18:11 since you had already generated the mines fully 18:11 in evilhack when a silver dragon swallows me can I use wands without it reflecting? 18:11 are they reflective on the inside? 18:11 and thus the confused dungeon topology damage is minimal 18:12 currently on Home:0 18:12 lol 18:12 forgot that's where I saved 18:12 well that should be fine 18:12 it wont get any worse from the fix 18:12 the fix merely just prevents the bug from triggering 18:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:12 <@luxidream> wait does hdf-343 have branchport skip then? 18:13 @luxidream probably? 18:13 if people decide to use it as standard strategy I'll probably fix it 18:13 but I figured it was harder than ascending normally, so 18:13 <{Demo}> has fiq broken save compat yet? 18:13 no 18:13 <@luxidream> that's where you give the amulet to your horse right? 18:13 <{Demo}> yeah luxi 18:13 FIQ it throws a panic upon going into the hole, is that the failsafe you meant? 18:13 @luxidream yeah 18:13 <@luxidream> then branchport 18:14 <{Demo}> i don't like that it panics 18:14 amateurhour: no that's a seperate panic 18:14 which now triggers because holes aren't allowed there anymore 18:14 amateurhour: just go downstairs instead I guess 18:14 <{Demo}> imo, the behavior of holes on levels that there cannot be a hole on is to impossible 18:14 to Home:1 18:14 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:14 <{Demo}> and not let you down it 18:14 and don't go to mines end :P 18:15 but yeah 18:15 what do the options actually do? repairing/recovering? 18:15 it should probably not be a panic 18:15 amateurhour: it just goes back in time 18:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:4671 18:15 until whatever you just did never happened 18:15 and recovering is I guess loading last checkpoint save? 18:16 er that is what I meant yes, I thought it was a panic, not an impossible 18:16 if you have the P option, that just means "ignore the error" 18:17 oh sorry, didn't recognise the difference between panic and impossible in this variant 18:17 R is what I said 18:17 amateurhour: that is fine 18:17 grats elenmirie__ ! 18:17 I was spectating you and I don't have the P option since I was just watching 18:17 and was confused as a result 18:17 sorry 18:18 the priestess isn't in the temple lol 18:18 amateurhour: perhaps because he couldn't find his temple 18:18 when you loaded it from quest 18:18 yeah guess that's it 18:19 I guess shops might be similarly broken 18:19 they seem fine 18:19 but shop code is more robust 18:19 and can recover much better from weird stuff than temples 18:20 huh autotravel is broken from this position 18:20 the fh bug is awfully similar to old glitches from 8bit games which would interpret some data as some other data due to limitations of error checking at the time 18:20 I don't know what that says about fiqhack's codebase 18:21 can't travel from this particular square to the downstairs using _ 18:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5149 18:22 it's like it's confused by the door 18:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:5247 18:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:5261 18:23 I think it tries to go diagonal but can't and then gives up 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:54117 18:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:21560 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:95805 18:27 amateurhour: oh I think I've seen that problem before 18:28 it's a NH4 travel bug I think 18:28 no idea how to fix it since I don't really understand the travel code that well 18:28 fair enough 18:28 added fh bug to hall of fame 18:28 A bug resulting from a reworking of code handling branch connections made it possible to end up in Home:0 by digging down from the Quest goal level. The game ended up reading Mines level data as Quest filler, and unless the player had already generated the Mines, would generate Quest filler in place of it. Continuing upwards to Home:-1 and beyond would eventually, if the player hadn't visited the Mines 18:28 top level, eventually overwrite Gehennom data, including the Sanctum, replacing it with Quest filler. If it was possible to skip generating the Sanctum this way and generate what the game considered to be the VS level, as Quest filler, you could then enter Gehennom properly (by branchporting for example) and skip the invocation by going to the VS (replaced with Quest filler) and take the downstairs there. 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:95832 18:29 nice 18:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2688 points, T:5531, killed by an uninjured watch captain 18:32 lol the amulet delivery boy trick is on here 18:32 i liked that trick :< 18:33 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: spontiff] 18:34 if you could give "oY to a pet and then branchport 18:34 in 343 18:34 did Maud ever abuse that 18:34 i dont remember this being the case but idk 18:34 answered my question... silver dragons are not reflective on the inside! 18:34 bouquet: :o 18:35 bouquet stop getting vored 18:35 we discussed this! 18:35 Knowing is half the battle. 18:35 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:36 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1538 18:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:96242 18:44 ah @luxidream i remember why i wanted the luckstone, arrow mulch rate 18:44 but i didn't even max my luck anyway lmao 18:44 nor did i really use the arrows that much after i got stormy 18:46 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2079 18:47 <@luxidream> that makes sense, idk how much 3 points helps though 18:47 <@luxidream> oh I missed elenmirie's ascension while I was playing on valkGDQ 18:48 yeah i was planning to max luck i just didn't in the end 18:49 i think i got bored of altar camping or was running out of food 18:49 and thought fuck it 18:49 kept some gems but never ran into a black unicorn anywhere 18:49 but next ranger run i might not bother with that 18:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2040 points, T:2355, killed by a heavily wounded snake 18:50 cuz stormy is fine, the arrows were occasionally nice for taking out minos before they can melee me lol 18:50 i didn't have sleep for most of the game which kinda sucked 18:53 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Kni Hum Fem Law), 221 points, T:588, killed by a wounded large mimic 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3278 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3299 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:96745 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:96747 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:24333 18:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:33726 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:96827 19:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 450 points, T:270, killed by a killer bee 19:05 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:4185 19:07 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4389 19:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1404 points, T:901, killed by a heavily wounded gnome lady 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 695 points, T:4738, killed by an uninjured killer bee 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3573 points, T:5788, killed by a bear trap 19:12 oh6: yo! 19:14 K2: [backscroll] the compromise solution that would satisfy no one would be to make some fiqhack soldiers skilled at wands, with a small bias towards those that actually have wands, but not most of them. They went to Yendorian Military Academy Wand Seminar or something. 19:15 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha), 17788 points, T:5043, killed by a geyser of acid 19:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:34047 19:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:32352 19:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1314 points, T:857, killed by slightly wounded Mr. Sperc; the shopkeeper 19:35 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Mon Inf Mal Cha), 325 points, T:672, inhumed by a kobold lord 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Wizard, on T:60576 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:98535 19:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3021 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:27718 19:39 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3741 points, T:3988, killed by a large cat 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:750 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Fighter, on T:974 19:41 <@nabru> !lastgame Tangles 19:41 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1534858827.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/slex/dumplog/1523968901.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1609632661.nh.html 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:98802 19:42 @nabru the shk one? 19:43 <@nabru> nope, the one where you were killed by a snake 19:43 <@nabru> https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1609592597.nh.txt that one 19:43 Oh right. 19:43 there might be a few. 19:46 nice~ 19:47 There was a time when I tried to mod the game and ended up accidentally adding a second upstair on the first floor of the Gnomish Mines. 19:47 It kept extending upward through more filler levels indefinitely until it got to Dlvl:-1, where the game crashed. 19:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased rustproof +3 gauntlets of power named power to the people", on T:1725 19:51 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:55441 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 820 points, T:1034, killed by a wounded giant bat 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:98848 19:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 4649 points, T:5345, killed by an owlbear 20:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:4092 20:01 -!- tonehack_ has joined #hardfought 20:03 Hi Tone 20:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4509 20:04 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:05 -!- tonehack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:06 -!- bouquet has quit [*.net *.split] 20:06 -!- moony has quit [*.net *.split] 20:06 -!- Neko-chan has quit [*.net *.split] 20:06 -!- ryzokuken has quit [*.net *.split] 20:06 -!- paxed has quit [*.net *.split] 20:06 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [*.net *.split] 20:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:10110 20:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1963 20:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4652 20:06 Which one of the server monkeys got their hands on Vorpal again 20:07 [hdf-us] [slex] spleen (Cel Rdt Mal Cha), 108 points, T:327, killed by a monster (burning fern spore) 20:09 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4767 points, T:8117, killed by a soldier ant 20:09 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 20:09 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 20:09 -!- Neko-chan has joined #hardfought 20:09 -!- ryzokuken has joined #hardfought 20:09 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #hardfought 20:09 -!- paxed has joined #hardfought 20:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v paxed] by rothfuss.freenode.net 20:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4894 20:10 -!- ryzokuken has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20:10 -!- ryzokuken_ has joined #hardfought 20:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] monstergrin (Nob Vam Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:27186 20:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5484 20:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 268 points, T:901, killed by a wounded dwarf 20:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2408 points, T:5489, killed by handling Sting 20:16 <@910rd> Death by uhhh a single Sting 20:17 -!- stenno2 has joined #hardfought 20:18 -!- microla has joined #hardfought 20:20 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 20:20 @luxidream actually i think this time i will crown for stormy 20:20 using grotto town coaligned altar 20:20 no luck with saccing thus far 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:99173 20:21 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:21 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:22 already spent an hour on mt and sokoban somehow <.< but plus side I have wished-for GDSM, "oR from soko, and sokozoo had another magic lamp so with that one I got a holydbag 20:22 -!- stenno2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:23 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:99186 20:27 u 20:27 Whoops 20:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed icebox", on T:99201 20:33 gg @luxidream 20:34 <@luxidream> thanks 20:34 good run? 20:34 * aoei checks lux's times on that alt 20:34 <@luxidream> pretty consistent times 20:34 <@luxidream> not dying 20:34 <@luxidream> so that's good 20:34 looking forward to the 3.6 world record being on that account 20:34 wow, 3 streak 20:34 all about 1h30min 20:35 sweet 20:35 and being a wizard or something instead 20:35 lol 20:35 <@luxidream> 4 streak 20:35 all under 90mins i should say 20:35 oh, scoreboard hasn't updated the page yet lol 20:35 ping the nhs admins and demand they update the page! 20:35 rofl 20:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Pri Hum Fem Law), 4917032 points, T:99204, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Alex/nethack/dumplog/1609485302.nh.html 20:36 grats Alex 20:37 <@luxidream> also I hit the neutral altar 3 times in a row 20:37 looks like you are not far from GDQ marathon ready 20:37 lol damn that's annoying 20:37 <@luxidream> 😠 20:37 <@luxidream> fortunately valk has a billion hp so we survive 20:37 nice 20:37 yeah my ran had shit hp 20:37 100 max i think 20:37 never really got much of a chance to fix that 20:38 <@luxidream> valk can get like 150 naturally, and have half physical 20:38 yeah 20:38 that's nice 20:38 <@luxidream> of course you can roll the 14 con valk and die inside 20:38 <@luxidream> fortunately that doesn't happen very often 20:38 [hdf-us] [spl] sohlman (Ran Dro Nbn Cha), 1127 points, T:1599, killed by a wooden crossbow bolt 20:39 valk makes a lot of sense for more conservative/marathon speedrunning 20:39 wiz makes sense for higher risk but potential sub-1h like what you did 20:39 wiz so squishy 20:39 <@luxidream> yeah valk gets screwed over on resources where wiz is fine 20:39 yea 20:40 <@luxidream> i think I used every last wish on all of the last four games 20:40 dang 20:42 4 streak 87 +/- 2 min 20:42 that's absurdly consistent lol 20:42 i think you got this dude 20:43 have a local copy of the game ready if the server goes down :P 20:45 @luxidream my ran also ascended without speed boots :3 20:45 some parts of the game were scarier without being very fast, but i had potions for astral at least 20:45 :poggers: 20:46 now this time i want to do it in sub-3h 20:46 <@luxidream> idk I still think nethack is not very safe 20:46 so i still have 2h to grab luckstone, crown real quick, rush the castle (i have no tonal but i have conflict so ii think it's okay) 20:46 <@luxidream> if the roguelike marathon is running this year I will try to enter though 20:46 and then do all the other crap and ascend 20:47 nice 20:47 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Dun Nex Fem Neu), 1236 points, T:1054, killed by click click click click click you died 20:47 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:48 <@luxidream> !lastgame 20:48 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sohlman/slex/dumplog/1609621520.slex.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Glord/nethack/dumplog/1609619975.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1609634893.nh.html 20:48 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 20:48 what game are you checking? 20:49 @luxidream: oh yea i almost splatted wearing conflict in the temple again (actually put it on by accident this time) 20:49 i had 4 hp when i removed it 20:50 sometimes you get the "dart of disintegration named Terra's Enchantment"; sometimes the "dart of disintegration named Terra's Enchantment" gets you! 20:51 lol "click click click click click you died" 20:51 griefer bones? 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 312 points, T:803, killed by an uninjured dwarf 20:52 Nah just slex probably. 20:52 oh, right 20:52 it's a slex death 20:52 <@luxidream> I thought it was a funny message 20:52 <@luxidream> it's just disintegration 20:52 ah 20:52 <@luxidream> zzz 20:53 <@luxidream> also wearing conflict in temples is a noob mistake :p 20:53 it wasn't even intentional this time! 20:53 i hit the wrong keypress at some point and put on the ring without realising 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2439 points, T:4058, killed by a dwarf king 20:54 i guess i should hit = before entering temple to be sure 20:54 i should know better 20:55 i haven't ascended 500 times yet but i have a few by now :V 20:55 <@luxidream> i haven't ascended 500 times either 20:55 you have if you count variants lol 20:55 vanilla it is still under 400 yes 20:56 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 20:56 anyway i should stop wasting time and ascend my ranger 20:56 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:57 im ruining my wallclock time keeping it saved D: 20:57 <@luxidream> hm you're right actually 20:57 <@luxidream> not quite at stroller numbers yet though 😛 20:57 "stroller numbers?" 20:57 what is it 20:57 that 20:57 rather 20:57 <@luxidream> the guy with 633 vanilla ascensions 20:57 ahhh 20:58 <@luxidream> top vanilla z-score 20:58 <@luxidream> posts on rgrn as "janis" 20:58 taht's p cray lol 20:58 <@luxidream> hates 3.6 20:58 heh 20:58 been a long-ass time since i read anything on rgrn 20:58 <@luxidream> nothing important there 20:58 I still read it. 20:58 i read the wiki and i talk to people here 20:58 that's about it 20:59 i don't read the reddit either 20:59 I used to read the reddit 20:59 should get back to that, posting there is fun 20:59 yea? 20:59 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 92667 points, T:15466, killed by a green dragon 20:59 i got named in a nethack reddit post one time :D 20:59 it was after devnull '13 21:00 <@luxidream> I feel like rgrn is just a few people who liveblog about their games 21:00 <@luxidream> I don't know how much discussion actually happens there 21:00 <@luxidream> unless mccauley starts an argument which is fun to read 21:00 I don't know either really 21:00 i got kudos for 7-conduct barb in 11k turns and second place minturns with sub-7k, but first place went to nht >:( (sub-5k) 21:01 and 2020 i was beat by daCat story of my life 21:01 next year tho 21:02 <@luxidream> reddit needs more memes 21:02 <@luxidream> we don't have r/anarchynethack so we need some more funny content in the main sub 21:03 I could possibly help with that 21:03 Was planning a bunch of fanart to celebrate my first ascension 21:05 got my tea 21:05 * aoei cracks knuckles and chooses music for speedrun readiness 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:31918 21:14 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "I do not like green eggs and ham"] 21:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] spleen (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1671 21:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1896 21:15 aoei: hah 21:15 sorry, meant to ping aosdict 21:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1903 21:17 i forgive you FIQ 21:17 it happens :p 21:20 go team a! 21:21 <@luxidream> team ao 21:21 aoei: no but seriously you and amateurhour should break off teamsplat and form team a with me 21:21 <@luxidream> you guys need Adeon too 21:22 and ais523, if anyone can find him 21:22 oh we also get arahael 21:22 <@luxidream> he made a long post about hyperrogue on the roguelikes subreddit 21:22 <@luxidream> so he's alive 21:23 <@luxidream> ootc would lose Andrio 😦 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:32226 21:24 I'm team A though. 21:24 👼🏻 21:25 * arahael suspects aosdict chose him not because of who he is or what skills he has, but because of his... Name... 21:26 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 21:28 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 21:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 885 points, T:1855, killed by a baby owlbear, while frozen by a monster's gaze 21:29 Go team 2e! 21:30 That one was kind of deliberate. 21:30 No digging implement and all, and I really, really needed one, plus it was early game. 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5307 points, T:2621, killed by a slightly wounded blue dragon 21:31 <@luxidream> !lastgame 21:31 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1609629349.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Glord/nethack/dumplog/1609619975.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1609640277.evil.html 21:31 Yeah, the downstairs into the mines was just a staircase surrounded by one wall and water. 21:31 -!- microla has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:32 Already went down as far as the oracle looking for digging stuff. 21:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 182 points, T:337, killed by a small mimic 21:34 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:32802 21:37 -!- anxiety617 has joined #hardfought 21:37 -!- Announcy has quit [Killed (kornbluth.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 21:37 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 21:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 21:38 -!- probablymoony has joined #hardfought 21:38 -!- bouquet_ has joined #hardfought 21:38 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Quit: spicycebolla] 21:38 -!- klintos_ has joined #hardfought 21:38 -!- Neko-cha1 has joined #hardfought 21:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2469 points, T:595, killed by a gnome lady, while praying 21:41 -!- anxiety617 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Rin And Mal Cha), 3995 points, T:1402, killed by a monster (swamp kappa) 21:41 -!- dexap has joined #hardfought 21:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v dexap] by ChanServ 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] davidkent (Cav Hum Fem Law), 2657 points, T:4047, killed by a lynx 21:43 -!- stenno has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- jeremiahL has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- nicole has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- arahael has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- klintos has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- spleen has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- bouquet has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- moony has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- Neko-chan has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- paxed has quit [*.net *.split] 21:43 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [*.net *.split] 21:44 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 21:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 830 points, T:796, killed by a dwarf 21:47 arghghghh im so slow why. tbf i should have gone back to soko to throw gems instead of trying to chase the one in mt around the place, that wasted far too much time 21:47 but how am i still not crowned, i have luckstone and max luck 21:47 prayed several times already on the altar 21:47 what gives :C 21:48 already at 1h30m ffs 21:48 -!- nicole has joined #hardfought 21:50 ah ok it's still like 2/9 chance per prayer 21:50 with max luck 21:51 -!- arahael has joined #hardfought 21:56 Bad luck 21:57 Or Murphy's law. 21:58 Andrio: Hmm? Ah, the downstairs thing? Yeah. 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7394 points, T:4743, killed by an uninjured ogre lord 21:59 its alright, crowned now :) 22:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1465 points, T:1866, killed by an exploding large box 22:03 D'oh. 22:04 that's a really hard to get unique death 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby red dragon, on T:6048 22:10 <@luxidream> use the whole castle wow on poisoned chests 22:10 <@luxidream> murphy's law 22:10 <@luxidream> start looting 22:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3586 22:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3679 22:22 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Loc Bod Mal Cha), 699 points, T:1154, killed by a crossbow bolt 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2749 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 178 points, T:1138, killed by a heavily wounded small mimic 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2941 22:37 [hdf-us] [sp] cilantro (Sam Elf Mal Neu) had a katana named Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Raijin, on T:25014 22:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:426 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 113 points, T:430, killed by an uninjured fox 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4268 points, T:6614, quit 22:53 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Mam Inc Mal Cha), 1426 points, T:1007, killed by a monster (filcher) 22:54 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 23:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3886 23:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3974 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 306 points, T:566, killed by an uninjured small mimic 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1643 23:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:4339 23:35 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:35 [hdf-us] [fh] Sena (purge) (Val Hum Fem Neu) defeated Croesus, on T:22877 23:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3752 points, T:5078, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 23:44 Go team a! 23:44 @luxidream: I think I managed under 3h 30min 23:44 not sure 23:44 <@910rd> Got greedy hauling a corpse 23:44 early WoW tho lmao 23:44 pre-castle 23:44 i wished for so much stuff 23:46 sub-6h by wall-clock, though 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3147 23:50 3h25min poggers personal record 23:52 ;o 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] wlpj2011 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1389 points, T:3405, killed by an uninjured ape 23:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4890 23:57 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 23:59 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]