00:00 <@riker> aosdict bet 00:00 <@riker> if i ascend with it i'll make sure to blow it up on astral 00:00 Baalzebub and Dispater isn't the worst combination 00:00 <@riker> it'll make all 3 high altars unaligned :) 00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:54231 00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:54237 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 1239 points, T:1893, killed by an elf mummy 00:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:7264 00:05 -!- Alasnuyo has left #hardfought 00:05 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:09 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1657 00:11 -!- werekitten has quit [] 00:14 So troll disposal is gonna be... complicated 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16253 00:16 Milky's full healing, good to know 00:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:22155 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9514 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3888 00:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10155 00:22 * arahael wonders what an "etched" staff is. 00:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Oona, on T:23253 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 1536 points, T:2606, killed by an uninjured housecat 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Speleologist, on T:71912 00:26 ID it and maybe you'll find out 00:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:23838 00:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:11377 00:30 Umbire: Yeah, only one scroll though. I've left it, don't want to waste it. 00:31 Welp, horse's fucking dead 00:32 Umbire: Stop beating it. 00:32 gnite all 00:32 Not remotely funny. 00:32 Later K2. 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4769 00:36 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1664 points, T:2505, killed by a wounded rabid rat 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Thidwick's ghost, the former Troglodyte, on T:1772 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Thidwick's ghost, the former Troglodyte, on T:1786 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:18221 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:10106 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:10106 00:52 <@riker> every time I start a game: "I will only eat tengu if I have multiple corpses available to consume. I do not want uncontrolled teleportitis" 00:52 <@riker> every time I play a game: "ooh one tengu corpse let's go" 00:52 <@riker> and now I'm bouncing my way downtown :/ 00:54 Oh, dear. A shambling horror. 00:55 This one has tentacles, and was crushing me(!) 00:55 <@riker> it's just looking for a hug :( 00:56 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792994286143799306/unknown.png 00:56 Heh. 00:56 <@riker> lol luxi 00:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:6772 00:57 Water dragon looked good. I forgot to realise that evilhack lets them *consume* me. 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3637 01:03 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 01:03 !setmintc 1 01:03 luxidream: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for luxidream set to 1 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 868 points, T:1269, killed by an uninjured gnome 01:03 -!- luxidream has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04 That's awfully specific, in querov1's death message. 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 14 points, T:91, killed by an uninjured kobold 01:04 <@riker> !whereis NeroOneTrueKing 01:05 @riker: [hdf-us] NeroOneTrueKing [dnh]: (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) T:15333 The Dungeons of Doom level: 21 01:09 I suspect i'm in the ice queen's level. 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2174 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5027 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3208 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 7332 points, T:3280, killed by an uninjured giant spider, while sleeping 01:16 Oh, no, it's *medusa*'s level, and I'm lucky enough to just happen to have reflection. 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 3006 points, T:5219, killed by an uninjured watch captain 01:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:9011 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9015 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3096 01:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:26553 01:20 *phew*. That was... Difficult. 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4365 01:23 -!- Alasnuyo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4664 01:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4825 01:27 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4863 points, T:7660, killed by a slightly wounded soldier ant 01:30 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1247 01:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:1444 01:34 +50 HP from the one nurse(!) 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1384 points, T:1577, killed by a slightly wounded watch captain 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:765 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Offler, on T:1008 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1262 points, T:1072, killed by a bolt of cold 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1796 01:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3229 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4313 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 15181 points, T:12290, killed by an uninjured invisible stalker, while helpless 02:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant mimic, on T:11996 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 47598 points, T:12264, quit 02:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:30625 02:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 252 points, T:629, killed by an exploding potion 02:23 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 02:28 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2318 02:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed the master key of thievery", on T:30906 02:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:30925 02:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3340 02:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3984 02:42 I've noticed lux always chooses Sting. Is it really that useful in the early game? 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:6131 02:45 Castle wand only gave me *one* wish. :( 02:45 ONE. 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an uninjured horse), on T:6316 02:45 > Nothing happens. The wand of wishing turns to dust. 02:46 <@luxidream> no I don't use it 02:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 8038 points, T:6336, quit 02:46 <@luxidream> removes it from the artifact pool 02:46 <@luxidream> also this game is dumb 02:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the Watchdog of the Boreal Valley, on T:29564 02:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the Bastard of the Boreal Valley, on T:29569 02:50 Ah, so that when you do the altar thing, you don't get it bestowed? 02:58 <@luxidream> right 03:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) was given Epoch's Curve, on T:30551 03:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) was given the Fluorite Octahedron, on T:31792 03:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) became the Guardian of the Old Lords, on T:32474 03:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:05 Hmm. Cursed geno. That could be useful. 03:07 <@p0werm0de> get black drag0n 03:07 1 wish from the castle wand arahael? did a monster use it first? 03:07 mobileuser: No, but remember I'm playing evil. 03:07 even then :-) 03:08 Well, I got the message I showed. 03:08 did you identify it before you used it? 03:08 No - why? What would that have done? 03:08 give you a chance to recharge it? 03:08 All wands of wishing in evil come pre-charged. 03:09 the castle wand is 0:1 to 0:3 03:09 not precharged 03:10 <@riker> specifically, any wands of wishing that generate in the castle are 0:x iirc. i wonder if you could farm deathdrops like that 03:10 <@riker> as longa s you do it on the castle floor 03:10 Oh, woah, I mis-read the evilhack changes. :( 03:10 > Wands of wishing are more rare to find randomly, and are always charged once already (1:x). The Castle wand is still created as having never been charged (0:x). 03:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:32893 03:11 at least you know for next time! 03:11 So I must've attempted to wrest it and failed. 03:12 Luckily, it's not critical, although it would be very nice to get a marker from it, that was the only thing I could think of that I could possibly need. 03:12 That or a wand of death for Master Kaen. 03:12 sounds good! 03:12 I just remembered the "always charged once already". 03:12 Always. Always is a strong word, you know. 03:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:33171 03:13 Even so... Why didn't it actually wrest, then? 03:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:33247 03:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:33805 03:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:33907 03:17 yeah I don't understand why the wrest didn't give you a second wish arahael 03:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Garland, on T:34279 03:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) averted death, on T:34303 03:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed Chaos, on T:34309 03:21 does EvilHack use UnNetHack wresting mechanics? 03:21 <@riker> of course he steals my QA 03:21 <@riker> the ONE dude in the game that still has QA thievery :/ 03:21 Andrio no 03:22 arahael you made 2 wishes? dragonhide speed boots and master key of thievery? 03:22 mobileuser: The second wish you see there was an ultra-rare throne wish. 03:22 ah... 03:22 I'm still surprised I actually got it./ 03:22 (I thought there were too many artifacts already) 03:23 there's always a chance... 03:24 <@p0werm0de> whats qa 03:24 Right, I was quite lucky, I guess. 03:26 <@riker> quest artifact 03:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 162 points, T:678, killed by an uninjured water moccasin, while vomiting 03:29 <@p0werm0de> aye ok. yendor stole mine too 03:29 <@p0werm0de> both i carried actually 03:30 <@p0werm0de> https://soundcloud.com/maltevonbergen/malte-von-bergen-f-f-fusion nethack channel hasnt been spammed with techno enough 03:31 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 6123 points, T:4467, killed by a clay golem 03:37 Nooo! Fell through a trapdoor to master kaen's level. So I don't have the stairs. :( 03:39 ouch! 03:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 789 points, T:2261, killed by an uninjured kobold lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:40 <@p0werm0de> read mappin 03:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32622 03:42 mobileuser: Remarkably, he was still easy to kill. It strikes me that Master Kaen has never given me a problem... 03:42 Didn't even bother with the boulder fort. 03:44 I fell into the lava! And survived!?!? 03:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 5124 points, T:2441, killed by a small crossbow bolt 03:47 arahael if your AC and HP are good enough Master Kaen is not so bad 03:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 6 points, T:181, killed by a boiling potion 03:48 mobileuser: It was AC:-27, but he only managed one hit. 03:48 And even then, that was deflected by my speed boots. 03:48 many people go for him early for the MC 03:48 MR 03:48 Ah, fair enough. I've never made that mistake, I guess. 03:48 But then again, you have to have XP 14 to even get in... 03:48 well it's a choice 03:48 I generally get in as soon as I can. 03:48 Because by that point, I'm ready... 03:49 many only have like -15 AC at that point 03:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4 03:50 (which for other quests can be plenty) 03:50 That's surprising, it's not /that/ hard to get lots of AC. 03:51 yeah I agree, I don't do master Kaen without very low AC myself 03:53 you fell into the lava? you must have had 100% fire res then. 03:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:851 03:58 mobileuser: And magical breathing. 03:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 835395 points, T:26382, killed by a scrap titan 03:58 The only way to get out was to teleport, though - levitation didn't do it. 04:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of snow boots entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:34085 04:01 Bah. 04:01 No need for water walking boots at all. 04:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3217 04:04 arahael I have noticed that levitation + jumping boots can get you out. that has saved me on no-teleport levels... 04:06 Oof, I didn't think about this. Attacked the Grand Master, in his temple, with all the abbots around. 04:07 I wonder if they respond to scare monster? 04:07 probably not, not sure 04:08 In any case, I'm definitely going to die. But I have an "oLS 04:08 Just need to think about the next move. HP:3 04:08 ouch, gl! 04:10 "A mysterious force prevents you from teleporting 04:11 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an abbot), on T:34328 04:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1995 04:13 They've graciously provided me with an insect fort :D 04:15 I'm uh... Going to back out. 04:16 * arahael makes a note to tell him never to return. 04:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:6615 04:16 run away! 04:17 I sure did! 04:17 Even killing an abbot resulted in a Sucumbus from the God. 04:18 ... Which I did accidentally... I was stunned... 04:18 oof 04:18 aoei: I was aiming for the Grand Master. ;) 04:18 best to try and stand still 04:18 if you're stunned 04:18 around peacefuls 04:19 aoei: Nah. Trust me, they were *definitely* not peaceful at that point! :D 04:19 oic 04:19 xD 04:19 I had completed the quest and thought: "Hmm, standing on the Grand Master's altar... What if I give him a wack?" 04:20 Uh? What's this? 04:20 lux uses that to exit the ranger quest 04:20 > You hear a door open. You are no longer vulnerable to acid. 04:20 aoei: Yeah, I was expecting expulsion. 04:20 smacks Orion to get teleported out lol 04:20 which is nice to avoid the annoying hedge maze 04:22 The next issue was that 8 wacks later, I was still fighting. I should've been GTO'ed. 04:24 have you been expelled in other evilhack games or was that vanilla? 04:24 maybe you don't get expelled in evilhack... 04:24 yeah maybe that's only a vanilla thing 04:26 Yeah, I suspect it's a vanilla thing, because evil specifically lets you do the quest after angering the leader. 04:26 So maybe that's how. 04:27 ahhh 04:27 yeah that's 100% why lol 04:27 makes perfect sense 04:30 I think I'll revgeno nurses in teh castle. 04:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:8835 04:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:8844 04:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:8956 04:35 Hmm, castle isn't no-telo. Bad choice. But other options are too far away. 04:35 <@p0werm0de> dang i thinkthats 2 magic lamps in minetown oo 04:36 *sigh*, and the freaking "peaceful" hill giant broke down the door. 04:37 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:5686 04:42 p0werm0de: poggers :> 04:43 arahael: how come you abbreviate teleportation to telo 04:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Gauntlets of Spell Power", on T:5905 04:44 aoei: I'm not the only one - but it actually fits with the local way of speaking - we shorten everything. 04:44 aoei: What did you do this arvo? :D 04:44 ahhh you have a thing about ending your shortforms with an o 04:44 afaik you're the only one who shortens it to telo instead of tele 04:44 but it makes sense now 04:45 what is an arvo tho? 04:46 "Afternoon". 04:46 ahhh 04:46 cool :) 04:46 As opposed to the morn... 04:46 (Morning) 04:46 is that a whole-aus thing or local region? 04:46 I think it's whole-australia. 04:47 cool 04:47 must remember that if i ever visit lol 04:47 :D 04:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:10378 04:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 robe", on T:10383 04:52 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 04:54 I can't remember - in evil, a blessed scroll of identify can potentially also identify all your inventory contents, right? 04:57 no idea 04:57 i know it's no longer the case in xNH 04:57 Ah, sad. 04:58 instead, aosdict decided to make them consistent 04:58 i think a blessed one always gives 7 IDs 05:00 I think I'd prefer that. 05:00 Rather than what we have now: 1-5 or thereabouts - or everything. 05:01 And I'm always gunning for everything. 05:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given Release from Care, on T:8364 05:03 yea i like what aosdict did with xnh id scrolls 05:03 he also removed the ID book tho i think :C 05:06 The answer is no, it doesn't identify the contents, just found out. :) 05:07 wiki? 05:08 Nah, just happened in my game. 05:09 vanilla behaviour is only a chance to id whole invent tho 05:09 so you can't possibly know from this one test lol 05:09 It identified my whole inventory, but not the contents of the containers. 05:09 ohhhh 05:09 same as vanilla 05:09 i dont think any - ^ yeah that 05:10 mobileuser: Indeed. 05:10 i dont think any variant ids container contens 05:10 blessed magic detection is different 05:10 when you said inventory contents earlier i thought you just meant like 05:10 all items in main invent 05:10 mobileuser: :o 05:10 that's definitely not a vanilla thing, what does that do? 05:11 blessed magic detection will reveal the "magical nature" of all your rings, spellbooks etc in main invent and in your carried containers 05:11 very powerful 05:12 so you will for example know what wands you have, but not the charges 05:12 oh wow 05:12 that's baller 05:12 is that evilhack only? 05:12 oh and it shows all magical items on the level 05:12 yes evilhack 05:12 and only evilhack? 05:12 not sure about other variants 05:13 ah 05:13 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:13 cool tho 05:13 grunthack :P that's where its from 05:13 LarienTelrunya: Message from jonadab at 2020-12-27 20:29 EST: Surely you mean 157 million new monsters, right? Or at least 157 thousand? What would be the point of adding only 157? 05:13 cool Amy, thanks 05:13 jonadab: lol you're free to suggest additional ones ♥ 05:13 I think in grunthack it si called "detect magic"? 05:13 also, total # of monsters in slex is 34267 now 05:13 Hmm. I wonder how to get into Gehenno. 05:14 kill cerberus 05:15 He's on the other side of teh gate. 05:15 I suppose I *could* strike the gate down, but I can't find a safe spot. 05:15 Actually on the diagonal that could work... 05:15 you need a wand of opening or bell of opening 05:16 you can't destroy it 05:16 Yeah, it just said that. Interesting. 05:16 Wand of opening it is, then. 05:16 there is a wand of opening in the secret room in the lower left corner 05:16 oh you have one 05:17 fuggg im so sleepy 05:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:36405 05:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given Helping Hand, on T:10158 05:18 *sigh*. Peaceful gremlins. They be spawning. 05:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:36570 05:20 LarienTelrunya, why do you have blackies and not blueys? 05:21 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 05:21 -!- joes has left #hardfought 05:21 bug_sniper: noted :) 05:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:13385 05:23 *yikes*. Mithril can deteriate. 05:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Speed Boots", on T:10717 05:25 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 05:25 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:26777 05:25 -!- joes has left #hardfought 05:30 and how about the evilhack zombies, although it will be a lot of work 05:30 maybe just put evilhack zombies on special evilhack levels 05:30 bug_sniper: in slex's evilvariant mode, the zombies at least have sickness-inducing attacks 05:30 which is to say, all Z-class monsters 05:33 do they also turn shopkeepers into zombies? 05:33 nah, the "zombiecalypse" part would indeed be too difficult to implement 05:33 among other monsters 05:33 yeah, that makes sense 05:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:37277 05:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:14963 05:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:39 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:41 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12861 05:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16874 06:01 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:06 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:10 Oops... Killed a peaceful gremlin in the presence of the peaceful charon... 06:11 <@p0werm0de> slay em all 06:11 <@p0werm0de> i also rekt whole minetown 06:11 <@p0werm0de> watchmen are basically cops 06:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Charon, on T:38244 06:14 are you still piously aligned arahael? 06:14 Worth it. Gremlins are irritating. 06:14 Hmm, let me check. 06:15 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:15 "You have transgressed", "Monster generation rate is 2.00", "You aggravate monsters", "You have been killed once". 06:15 lol 06:15 How do I check for pious alignment? That wasn't mentioned, so I assume not. 06:15 stethoscope 06:15 apply to self 06:15 well you have transgressed, so you're everything but pious :P 06:16 I'm "insufficiently chaotic" 06:16 What does that mean? 06:16 negative alignment 06:16 Status of Arahael (insufficiently chaotic): Level 15 HP 181(181) AC -22, very fast 06:16 Wow. 06:18 So I'd best not convert any altars. Though, I guess it doesn't matter, as I've done my quest. 06:20 or pray 06:21 Yeah, it does appear to be not safe to pray. 06:21 Woah. I got blasted by my own artifact. 06:22 kill enough hostiles and your aligment will improve. stop killng peacefuls for a while ;-) 06:22 ah artifact blast is another effect 06:24 Well, Gehenno will take care of that. But hmm, so that was an interesting outcome of "cleaning out" those gremlins. 06:25 Getting that marker from the sanctuary will be sooo good. 06:25 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 06:28 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:38540 06:28 Wiped out master and arch liches - should make Gehenno much easier. 06:29 G'night! 06:30 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 179835 points, T:16835, killed by a bone spike 06:48 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 06:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:22200 07:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed mithril amulet of magical breathing", on T:40475 07:00 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 26.1] 07:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:23478 07:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:24237 07:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:24718 07:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Robber, on T:27133 08:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1984 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed walkera's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:2034 08:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:26087 08:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:22576 08:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 1202 points, T:725, killed by a gnome 08:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:32358 08:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 107 points, T:393, killed by a water moccasin 08:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:1389 08:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1929 08:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:5532 08:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5538 08:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) was given the Shield of Yggdrasil, on T:27761 08:56 morning 08:57 * K2 waves furiously 08:57 <@p0werm0de> good aftern00n 08:57 <@p0werm0de> waves frantically 08:58 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law), 1051 points, T:1782, killed by a barely wounded housecat 09:01 <{Demo}> morning k2 09:01 heh 09:01 how you feeling {Demo} 09:01 mornin' 09:01 <{Demo}> didn't sleep well, not sure why 09:02 <{Demo}> had dreams of being in slightly cold but not very rain 09:05 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 454 points, T:745, killed by a wounded giant spider 09:06 go team s! 09:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1140 09:10 bhaak you're going to want to filter out wounded status for unique deaths for junethack next year :) 09:10 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 09:11 "killed by a wounded, but not quite wounded, giant spider" 09:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:29267 09:14 "killed by a slightly limping but otherwise healthy giant spider" 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 815 points, T:1446, killed by an uninjured hill orc 09:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:63256 09:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given Sunsword, on T:5704 09:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1154 09:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2289 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1357 points, T:1301, killed by an uninjured hill orc called Thanks; I hate Orctown 09:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4472 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had a copper saber entrusted to her by Mog, on T:26412 09:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Pri Hum Fem Law) was given Grayswandir, on T:2472 09:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:30490 09:30 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:30 YANI Archive updated through Dec 25. New feature: "Recent Ideas" page that shows just the new ideas added in this batch so you don't have to load all >3000 of them. 09:30 * aosdict pokes amateurhour 09:31 awwwwwww yeahhhhhhh 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1415 09:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:64255 09:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:37094 09:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 78010 points, T:7476, killed by a bone devil 09:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:5883 09:38 there's some great ideas in there 09:40 * aosdict gives amateurhour #3182 to love and cherish and never post again 09:40 <{Demo}> what's 3182? 09:41 punish meat-eating monks more 09:41 apparently I've suggested it a few times but can't remember doing that :P 09:42 believe me you suggested it at least 5 times since august 09:42 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:42 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 09:42 well now there's a permanent record of it 09:42 carved in stone 09:43 <{Demo}> you will be tried for your crimes against monks 09:44 this is an epic idea: https://nethack-yanis.github.io/yanis/3173.html 09:44 whoever came up with that is a genius 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2881 09:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:45 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 09:45 * aosdict makes it so that if the site is loaded from amateurhour's ip address it loads different css showing the words actually carved in stone 09:46 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2746 points, T:2207, killed by a wand 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Susanowo, on T:3016 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2861 09:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:32588 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3020 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2813 points, T:3607, killed by a tengu 09:56 YANI: Eating a mummy corpse will cure terminal illness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummia) 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3193 09:58 Maybe that has already been suggested since it's a pretty good historical reference 09:58 imo 09:59 but mummies *give* you terminal illness. 10:00 YANI: Eating a mummy corpse gives you terminal illness and then instantly cures you of it 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3377 10:01 -!- rossyrg has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.1 - https://znc.in] 10:01 -!- rossyrg has joined #hardfought 10:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:38913 10:03 that was a nice read thanks for updating the yanis aosdict 10:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1735 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2111 10:06 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66719 10:08 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 10:10 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Cthulhu, on T:66752 10:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:41490 10:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:28306 10:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:4273 10:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 bone helm of speed", on T:41492 10:20 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67263 10:31 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67812 10:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:40712 10:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law), 9105 points, T:7531, killed by a wounded leocrotta, while praying 10:33 aosdict: YANIs #2907 and #3261 should probably be merged? 10:33 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:4909 10:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:40729 10:33 bah 10:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:40732 10:35 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 steel darts on an altar, on T:4701 10:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:41637 10:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) stole 95 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Siverek's used armor dealership, on T:30529 10:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 550 points, T:30620, killed by uninjured Mr. Siverek; the shopkeeper 10:45 That didn't work. 10:45 the semicolon in that death message still triggers my OCD :P 10:46 dammit Amy 10:46 now im triggered too 10:46 why did you have to comment D: 10:47 huh, didn't expect that, so far I think I was the only one thinking "huh, there has to be a comma there, if it's a semicolon it means a new part of the sentence starts, as in "killed by Mr. Siverek; the shopkeeper goes back to his shop" :P 10:47 yeah a semicolon separates things that can also exist as distinct sentences, or semantically complete phrases 10:47 it has no place in that death message 10:48 >:C 10:48 also, nice example of correct use :D 10:48 *cough* 10:48 hi hothraxxa 10:48 no it isn't 10:48 which isn't 10:48 that example 10:49 hm 10:49 please tell the class how and why she fucked up 10:49 a properly used semi-colon separates two closely connected thoughts, which those aren't 10:50 hmmmm you have a point 10:50 but in terms of pure grammar and semantics that's a hard line to draw 10:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:41796 10:51 i would argue they are related 10:51 having killed the adventurer 10:51 the line should be if you use a semi-colon, replace it with a period 10:51 the the shk is free to go back to the shop 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 213 points, T:522, killed by an uninjured goblin, while frozen by a potion 10:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6610 10:52 i will appeal to my authority here, as i was a writer/editor for about 20 years 10:52 <{Demo}> I hate shks; let's kill them! 10:53 use a period 10:53 hothraxxa: yea that's all well and good 10:53 but i don't think you can flat out say amy's example was incorrect 10:53 well i can and did 10:53 it's a grammatic gray area 10:53 semicolons are dodgy as fuck 10:53 not in this case 10:54 i just gave a perfectly good rationale for why those thoughts are closely connected 10:54 if you're gonna continue to deconstruct it, please be thorough 10:54 i reject your example 10:54 why 10:54 be thorough 10:54 heh I never said it was a good example :P maybe a better one would be "killed by Mr. Siverek; the shopkeeper doesn't care" :P 10:55 although, I guess that implies Mr. Siverek and the shopkeeper are not the same person 10:55 you could say who doesn't care 10:55 <{Demo}> "killed by Mr. Siverek" isn't a complete sentence 10:55 no 10:55 then a comma is appropriate 10:55 he doesn't care 10:55 comma appropriate for who 10:55 but with he i think semicolon works? 10:55 {Demo}: the "killed by" part was always an incomplete sentence tho 10:56 "the adventurer was killed by Mr. Siverek; he doesn't care" eh im still not sure 10:56 OK so semicolons are hard 10:56 if they are complete sentences then a period is the correct punctuation 10:57 ok 10:57 fine you fucker 10:57 give us a proper valid semicolon example 10:57 actually the correct punctuation is always an em dash 10:57 all periods and semicolons should be replaced with em dashes 10:57 lmao qt 10:57 ilu<3 10:57 that's difficult; however, i will try 10:57 ok how is "however, i will try" not a complete sentence? 10:58 it is. that's a prerequisite. 10:58 hothraxxa | if they are complete sentences then a period is the correct punctuation 10:58 ^ 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 176 points, T:394, killed by a dwarf 10:58 it is. 10:58 *the* 10:58 not *one of* 10:58 but *the* 10:58 yes it's quite rare that a semi-colon cna't be replace by a period 10:58 according to hothraxxa, at least 10:58 ah ok 10:58 i see your point now 10:58 your earlier point was misleading :V 10:59 <{Demo}> i would trust an editor 10:59 yeah i think hothraxxa is right 10:59 but i like to play devils advocate 10:59 I think that hothraxxa just meant as a style consideration it's better to use a period, not that it's literally incorrect to use a semicolon 10:59 also im learning stuff 10:59 qt: it was vaguely stated! 11:00 qt: that's right, except if the thoughts are not closely connected then a semi-colon is incorrect 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1149 11:00 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:00 which brings us back to the vagueness of the rule 11:00 what defines them as being sufficiently closely-connected? 11:00 I guess that's why it's better to use a period, so that you don't have to worry about it lol 11:00 qt: true 11:00 can we just come back to the most important point tho 11:01 <{Demo}> i learned that you can usually use it with words like however, otherwise, and some other ones I don't remmeber 11:01 the one that upset both me and Amy 11:01 <@p0werm0de> why rogue so abysmal HP 11:01 it was 100% incorrect in the death message 11:01 right, and as an editor when you see a semi-colon it is most likely you should replace it with a period 11:01 <@p0werm0de> i have 111 hp XL 16 11:01 what's the point of semicolons? like half a colon? LMAO just use a whole colon if ur a real man but dont half-ass it 11:01 amateurhour: lmao 11:01 <@p0werm0de> and even nurse danced for 5 hp 11:01 The semicolon drinks a potion of gain level! The semicolon turns into a colon. 11:01 damn what have I done with my supposedly harmless comment :P 11:01 demo: yes those are the words that are usually preceeded by a semi-colon 11:01 they connect the thoughts 11:02 hothraxxa: nice 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a pair of combat boots entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:5294 11:03 in fact if a sentence begine with however or otherwise, the period at the end of the previous sentence should probably be replaced with a sei-colon 11:03 no shit 11:03 all properly typed of course 11:03 i should keep this in mind when editing my thesis for final publication 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2228 points, T:1457, killed by an uninjured gnome 11:03 outside chance i've misused the odd semicolon 11:04 read strunk & white 11:04 fair chance even 11:04 hothraxxa: what if you're using a language without strong typing 11:04 also a good style manual. i used the chicago manual of style mostly 11:05 qt: just use assembly, everything will be fine 11:05 #define SEMICOLON '.' 11:05 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 11:05 lawl 11:05 do a sed pass before the preprocessing pass 11:06 a prepreprocessing pass 11:06 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 11:06 my work here is done 11:07 now if you will excuse me, the lady is waiting for me to deliver this amulet 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 931 points, T:617, killed by a killer bee 11:07 now if you will excuse me -- the lady is waiting; for me to deliver this (amulet) 11:07 ftfy 11:08 "Amulet delivery was late, will not buy from him again." 11:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:15796 11:09 I only have three wishing wands; however, every one is 0:3 11:11 shit. you reminded me i left the wands of wishing back in my stash 11:11 three 11:11 oh well 11:13 oof 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 369 points, T:322, killed by a bolt of fire 11:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:72034 11:21 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68432 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1005 11:24 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided electric eels dungeon wide on T:68452 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:22853 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1083 points, T:1102, killed by a slightly wounded bone devil 11:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:37542 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide elven helm of drain resistance", on T:50402 11:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 22766 points, T:8752, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:22871 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:50409 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased platinum yendorian express card", on T:50526 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:50529 11:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:73116 11:36 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:68581 11:37 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:68615 11:38 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Death, on T:68632 11:41 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "historic very historic holy blessed blank diluted thoroughly figurine of a woodchuck named christmas carl, drummer boy of yendor", on T:68640 11:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:42 nice one hothraxxa 11:42 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1131914 points, T:68642, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/unnethack/dumplog/1608681287.un.txt.html 11:43 <@malor> congrats 11:43 ty 11:43 gg hothraxxa! 11:47 nice hothraxxa 11:47 whats next? 11:48 unsure. i'm 13 z-score behnd tariru now 11:49 GG. 11:49 dnh dnh dnh dnh 11:50 !variant 11:50 nabru: unnethack 11:50 i have no idea what i'm doing in dnh 11:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:44860 11:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:44861 11:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7486 points, T:5825, killed by a warg 11:54 when is the last time you gave evilhack a spin hothraxxa? 11:54 when you introduced infidels 11:54 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Val Mer Nbn Law), 359 points, T:393, killed by a boulder 11:54 mobileuser and krm26 are overtaking you in bug finding skills 11:54 :P 11:54 heh 11:57 <{Demo}> found this weird bug on the evilhack topten. I'm not on it??? 11:59 wow, i'm still #2 in evilhack wins. i thought vaderflag had passed me 12:00 not yet 12:00 he's back at it though 12:00 Back at dying stupidly 12:02 i've never done an evilhack tourist so i'm tempted, but i found evil was not fun for me the last time i was playing it 12:02 got nasty, too much like spork. 12:03 Hi Vader. 12:03 Once I get decent enough at Evil, I'd be willing to try a Tourist, possibly. 12:03 hi 12:03 Hello VaderFLAG, Welcome to #hardfought 12:04 i like tourists but they're hard to get started 12:04 and evil is hard to start for any role 12:05 That's why I went Valk for my first time 12:05 It's been a ride already, I have to find another horse to saddle when I start again... 12:06 i started with gnome healer of course 12:08 last game was first week of august for you hothraxxa 12:08 yeah i stopped after elenmirie ascended her infidel 12:08 been quite a few fixes since then 12:09 "fixes" 12:09 0.6.0 is fairly solid. enough so, i've started on 0.7 12:09 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 12:09 I like how different infidel is ... just killed my first one. 12:09 hey, here's a bug not fixed yet: there's alhoon 12:09 FEATURE 12:10 WORKING AS DESIGNED 12:10 you and amy, so much alike 12:10 master mind flayers in the mines are also working as intended, yet eh "fixed" it :P 12:11 hothraxxa... that hurts 12:11 you wont get mmf or alhoons in the mines anymore 12:11 why? i *heart* amy 12:12 i just don't like slex 12:12 hothraxxa: <3 12:12 :) 12:12 Are the alhoons basically arch liches that teleport next to you to brain-suck? 12:12 haven't played any since they went in 12:12 yeah 12:12 they're nasty 12:13 can you still genocide them? 12:13 I don't think anyone would shed a tear if they were to be accidentally removed from the game 12:13 yes 12:14 Oh yeah, gonna have to deal with those eventually. 12:14 a bug to be fixed in v.7 no doubt 12:14 Fun. 12:14 as a matter of fact... 12:14 <{Demo}> weevilhack when? 12:14 The bug being the existence of scrolls of genocide? 12:14 hothraxxa: in 0.7 the wizard of yendor has a 50% chance of having an amulet of reflection or MR 12:15 and will always casr double-trouble as his first move, a la fiqhack 12:15 and in 0.7 alhoons won't disappear until you kill a boss lich 12:15 ^ 12:15 well i havent made that yet 12:15 can't geno L at all till then iirc 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:50833 12:16 alhoons arent L 12:16 yeah, they're h, but same principle 12:16 well eh geno only takes out two from the class and not guaranteed to be the worst two 12:16 unless changed 12:17 theres a new obj property 12:17 'excellence' 12:17 blessed +2 dagger of excellence \o/ 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) stole 60 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Tjiwidej's delicatessen, on T:1548 12:17 tell us more about this property 'excellence' 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 814 points, T:1557, killed by a jumping spider 12:17 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/0e63a463c8f8db5103ee2e180a568f653aadf6b8 12:19 so a +7 dagger of excellence means i could get 17 luck? 12:19 no 12:19 damn 12:19 25 charisma though 12:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:16463 12:20 kind of a big deal 12:20 cuz charisma and conflict 12:20 and i have an army buddy that plays, he'll get a kick out of it 12:20 oh the ch driven conflict thing 12:20 i rarely use conflict 12:21 its because you are above such things 12:21 pro 12:21 :P 12:21 oh i'll use it if the circumstances are right 12:23 excellence obj prop is a 0.7.0 thing 12:23 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 12:23 that version wont be live for awhile 12:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:24 better ascend as much evilhack 0.6 as we can before then :b 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:16473 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16474 12:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:38977 12:28 there are many Things™ i want to add for 0.7.0 and some of those things i will prob need help with 12:28 or maybe i'll bump my head and become a master coder 12:30 <{Demo}> apply excellence oprop to urself 12:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:16334 12:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:36 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 12:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:716 12:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 746 points, T:750, killed by a gnomish wizard 12:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3641 12:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:10231 12:43 K2: beware, that will make you lose all your social skill progress 12:43 Hi paxed 12:44 hi 12:44 Hello paxed, Welcome to #hardfought 12:45 How are ya. 12:45 not bad 12:45 Good, good. 12:51 paxed: I would expect most people's social skills to be near-zeroed after 2020 anyway. 12:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 100 points, T:884, killed by a wand 12:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 3067 points, T:4038, killed by a wounded orc-captain 12:54 -!- joes has left #hardfought 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:17884 12:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2078 12:58 lol, jokes on you universe 12:58 i didn't have any social skills to begin with :D 12:59 <@luxidream> Maybe I can reassign my social skills points to something more important 13:00 like nethack :> 13:01 speaking of which... 13:01 * aoei goes back to scumming priests 13:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha) permanently converted to neutral, on T:47396 13:03 i wonder what the probability of starting with a poly control ring is as wizard 13:04 <@luxidream> all rings are equal probability iirc 13:04 0.5% of wands are WoW (same as death); 4.5% of wands are polymorph 13:04 <@luxidream> should be simple to calculate 13:04 but to start with a polykit the first room wand has to be poly PLUS you have to start with PC ring 13:04 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:04 ah ok 13:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:05 <@luxidream> one thing I like doing is polying your starting rings with the wand 13:05 <@luxidream> sometimes you can get lucky 13:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:48622 13:05 heh yeah 13:05 i do that sometimes but not like right off the bat 13:05 maybe i should gtry that 13:05 what is the first room wand? like the first wand you encounter in-game? there isn't a guaranteed wand in the first room right? 13:06 qt: no its' when im scumming for wishing wands and just check the wand in the first room IF there is a wand there 13:06 otherwise I #quit 13:06 the first room wand is a wand in the first room that if you don't get it then you quit 13:06 Oh I see 13:06 basically i was just wondering what's more likely, first room wand is wow, or first room wand is poly AND you started with PC ring 13:06 i think wow is more likely lol 13:07 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:07 yeah it works out wow is more likely 13:08 but starting with poly wand and polypiling your rings would increase it a bit 13:08 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:08 isn't the actual comparison between first room wow | start with =oPC and ONE of the first room wow or your starting wand is poly 13:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:18841 13:08 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08 no 13:09 you can't start with a poly wand if you have =oPC 13:09 I see 13:09 the game doesn't allow you to start with both 13:09 it's a hard-coded exclusion 13:09 no starting invent full polykit allowed 13:09 starting with both polymorph and polycontrol is also excluded 13:09 i think its the same for tele wand and TC ring 13:10 that's not that powerful 13:10 this skews the base probabilities of individual ring starts slightly 13:10 no but iirc it's also a disallowed start 13:10 i could be wrong actually 13:10 not 100% sure 13:10 that doesn't exist, just checked 13:10 which 13:10 just the tc/tele thing 13:10 tele/tc is allowed 13:10 okay 13:11 just is somewhat rare to actually occur i guess 13:11 it also excludes spellbook of polymorph despite no role starting with lv 6 books 13:11 lol 13:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:41673 13:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:19269 13:12 <@luxidream> Tele and tele control is fine 13:12 yeah we established that 13:12 thanks anyway tho <3 13:12 <@luxidream> Didn’t read backscroll lol 13:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:880 13:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:13412 13:16 idk if im getting any better at this game 13:16 but im sure getting pretty good at sub-2min mines splats 13:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu), 47872 points, T:13502, killed by a heavily wounded Green-elf 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1493 13:18 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 225 points, T:241, killed by a sewer rat 13:18 <@luxidream> I got sub 1 minute mt once 13:19 <@luxidream> If you want small goals 13:19 hahahaha 13:19 nice 13:19 but as for fast splats its like you told me 13:19 easy to be fast and dumb 13:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu), 285 points, T:747, killed by a gas spore's explosion 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2076 points, T:2411, killed by a bolt of fire 13:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu), 292 points, T:772, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:25 ^^ case in point 13:26 atm my approach to speedrunning is like 13:26 do the fast thing 13:26 and hopefully learn to be less dumb while im at it 13:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Hea Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful housecat, on T:1478 13:26 :D 13:27 and !setmintc so the whole channel isn't constantly spammed with my splats 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2140 points, T:3172, killed by a bolt of cold 13:28 paxed hah 13:30 !setmintc 2000 13:30 Merlek: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for merlek set to 2000 13:30 ah nice one 13:31 that'll hide everything that happens with fewer turns than 2000 13:31 wishes, splats, quits 13:31 Rodney doesn't have !setmintc but Rodney on NAO also reports fewer things 13:33 [hdf-us] [un] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2486 points, T:4183, killed by a wand 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2294 13:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 6 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:50470 13:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 616 points, T:2764, killed by an uninjured dwarf 13:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the Watchdog of the Boreal Valley, on T:21484 13:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) destroyed the Bastard of the Boreal Valley, on T:21492 13:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:43810 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3416 points, T:2991, killed by an uninjured gnome lord 13:47 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3529 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 845766 points, T:52794, drowned in a moat by a kraken 13:57 Ah, inattentive 13:58 Didn't even get to climb back out of my corrupt save hole...oh well 13:58 oof rip 13:58 I've learned that (1) you can do giant caveman without your sceptre and (2) I don't know that I wanna 13:58 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3216 points, T:6023, killed by a rock mole 13:59 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2849 14:00 <@p0werm0de> can i convert back from neutral to chaotic 14:00 <@p0werm0de> i dunno how i managed this prob frm attacking black unicorn 14:00 <@p0werm0de> and then pray at some neutral altar 14:00 <@p0werm0de> eh not pray but offer 14:01 did you do that after you'd done the quest? 14:01 <@p0werm0de> ye 14:01 <@luxidream> no 14:01 <@luxidream> you're stuck 14:01 I don't think you can change back, but it doesn't really matter now 14:01 Yeah, you do NOT offer unicorns of your alignment 14:01 Ever 14:02 Better off eating them if a pet accidentally kills one 14:03 yeah, saccing your own unicorn on a cross-aligned altar is actually the most reliable way to permaconvert 14:03 and not something you wanna do until you've gained entry to the quest (if at all) 14:04 Interesting paper about a mysterious Atari 2600 maze generation algorithm (Rogue's maze generation is mentioned too) 14:04 https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1811/1811.02035.pdf 14:05 "Table 1: Mystery table mapping used for maze generation" -- ooh, mysterious 14:05 o: 14:05 * qt waves hands in a mysterious way 14:05 rofl 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:19779 14:08 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 14:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a tengu, on T:4134 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2890 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3085 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2062 14:14 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 74 points, T:542, killed by a large mimic 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3206 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1636 points, T:3237, killed by a soldier ant 14:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Hum Fem Cha), 4190 points, T:1164, quit 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:7966 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:7990 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "nx", on T:8177 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Mon Hum Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:2245 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:8478 14:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:5327 14:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6416 points, T:5334, killed by an uninjured fire ant 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:8916 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:9130 14:22 Go team a! 14:23 Anyway, big update to this page: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/NetHack/Analysis 14:23 Including some fixes to mistakes on roles that some of you kindly forgot to inform me of :[ 14:23 @luxidream hint, hint >:[ 14:24 :< 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:10190 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3661 points, T:2544, killed by an uninjured gnome zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:25 ...oh, that's why :< 14:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1343 points, T:1453, killed by a slightly wounded owlbear 14:26 Could also use some help from more trope-savvy folks fleshing out the Valk and Wizard roles 14:26 (ATT doesn't have a trope dedicated to Valkyries that I know of, which, probably gonna work on that) 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:12726 14:32 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 14:35 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4046 points, T:3348, killed by a raven 14:38 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:42095 14:40 !lastgame krm26 14:40 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1608913444.evil.html 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:16954 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1540 points, T:385, killed by a killer bee 14:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] k2 (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13788 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 5506 points, T:4574, killed by a plains centaur, while praying 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:20277 14:55 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:57 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 14:57 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed joes' ghost, the former Empiric, on T:3258 14:57 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2449 14:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:42236 14:59 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 14:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 14:59 Yo FIQ! 15:01 <@riker> !pom 15:01 @riker: The moon is full for 5 more days. 15:01 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 fireproof boots of speed", on T:48328 15:03 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 15:06 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:3728 15:10 [hdf-us] [spl] qt (Arc Hum Fem Law), 4447 points, T:4369, slaughtered by Buer 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:73417 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:73418 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:41079 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:23378 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:22629 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:24185 15:22 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (giant eels), on T:24993 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:26213 15:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:42027 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2155 15:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 bone helm of opposite alignment", on T:42053 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:26945 15:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:39073 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2521 15:43 "the wizard of yendor has a 50% chance of having an amulet of reflection or MR" 15:43 interesting idea 15:44 so wands of death are less useful 15:44 correct 15:44 melee prowess is more useful 15:44 in some cases yes 15:44 or spell prowess? 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "holy greased bag of holding", on T:29227 15:44 and wizards are probably almost required to learn cone of cold (or that acid spell?) 15:44 high level spellcasters yes 15:45 acid spell 15:45 (and cancellation) 15:45 finger of death and magic missile are of course as worthless as a wand of death 15:45 acid would probably do the most damage 15:45 ^ that 15:46 but as its an AoE spell, if you're not acid res, you'll take same damage 15:46 acid res is almost a given ;-) 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed dickbutt", on T:29287 15:47 weird fruit luxi 15:47 how would cancellation work? 15:47 in vanilla it'd be resisted via MR% 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "holy wand of polymorph", on T:29292 15:48 I think they can resist in evilhack as well 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:3162 15:48 no i mean high level monster spell casters can also cast cancellation 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:29334 15:48 can kathryn? 15:48 yes 15:49 jilles i get it now, you were referring to player wizards 15:49 not monster 15:51 i think we all know who the real monster is, k2 15:51 [hdf-eu] [xnh] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1658 15:52 maybe i try to win sub-2h tomorrow 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 317 points, T:1098, killed by a bolt of fire 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "holy ring of conflict", on T:29578 15:52 hothraxxa why 15:53 why you do you insist on trying to hurt my feelings 15:53 :P 15:53 K2, priest is probably the hardest hit role 15:53 yeah. how the fuck do you do a giant priest anyway? 15:53 since it has neither good attack spells nor a guaranteed good melee weapon 15:54 a ginat at least has boulders 15:54 fiant 15:54 gnita 15:54 a big big priest 15:55 jilles - heavy mace is a thing now, as is heavy war hammer. artifacts that were mace/war hammer are now heavy. damage output is on par with a long sword/katana 15:55 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6771 15:55 ah, so really different from vanilla 15:55 [hdf-eu] [xnh] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1824 points, T:2066, petrified by a chickatrice 15:55 vanilla priests don't tend to have high dps 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:3702 15:56 just good enough 15:56 enough difference that it makes a difference i hope 15:56 ... 15:56 you know what i mean 15:56 heh 15:56 what about monks 15:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:43724 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:30876 15:57 martial arts are better than in vanilla 15:57 much better 15:57 good enough to out-dps the 5th double trouble you encounter? 15:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:51740 15:58 hmm i just thought of something 15:58 this is my problem with making rodney harder to kill: the increased exposure to doube-trouble, and let's not forget cursing 15:58 so obj properties, on weapons its a damage dealing property, on armor it protects you from the same (fire/cold/etc) 15:59 on gloves that property could/should be damage dealing? 15:59 hothraxxa, and destroy armour 15:59 aye that too 15:59 it can be dealt with but it requires having the resources 15:59 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:59 so collecting/managing those resources before starting the ascension run 15:59 he summons nasties and evilhack has some really nasty nasties 15:59 well monks don't really have any way of getting acid res so it'd still be dragonbane (no oprops) 16:00 yeah they do 16:00 dragonbane 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:31132 16:00 did u only read half of that 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:31136 16:00 lol 16:00 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 16:00 luxidream is missing a lot of modifiers on that wish 16:00 yeah i only read half of that 16:00 -!- bouquet has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 i need to stop having 3 convo's at once 16:01 here, phone text, kiddo 16:01 heh 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:31339 16:02 hothraxxa: not everyone needs a designer marker like you do 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31371 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31372 16:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:52137 16:02 brb 16:03 evilhack YANI: for monks only gloves deal the damage of their property. eg dragonbane deals acid damage. 16:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Burglar, on T:52206 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:31614 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:31615 16:04 need some artifact boots for monks so they can really kick ass 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31656 16:05 if you add acid damage to dragonbane you've pretty much made a god-tier gloves artifact 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:31761 16:06 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:23846 16:07 can fix it instead by giving monks acid-res via level up (at some sane level, not like 30) 16:07 then they're not obligated to go for dragonbane 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) averted death (petrified by a heavily wounded cockatrice), on T:31957 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:31976 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:31982 16:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8123 16:10 does evilhack have an amulet of acid resistance? 16:10 or ring 16:10 no 16:11 have you stopped the gods from giving priests artifact weapons that they can't use? 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:32423 16:12 he did 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 308 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32514 16:13 i've kicked around the idea of giving monks more intrinsics as they level up 16:13 i know dnethack does this 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:32654 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh343] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3330 16:13 i've also thought about giving all roles *something* when they reach exp lvl 30 16:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:39993 16:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Mother Hydra, on T:44782 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2702 points, T:4447, killed by an uninjured gray unicorn 16:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:44788 16:14 nothing crazy or uber powerful, but something in incentivise going to level 30 16:14 it's also easier to level up in dnh though, so intrinsics up to xlvl 30 is fine there 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 1126 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32775 16:14 the xp curve is more sane 16:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:42375 16:15 demo down 16:15 woot! nice one 16:15 \o/ 16:15 Is it possible to open crystal chests? 16:15 yes 16:15 Just need an actual key, I guess. 16:15 magical means only 16:15 nothing physical will work 16:16 Ah, so wand of opening, then. 16:16 * K2 nods 16:16 or spell 'knock' 16:16 Hmm, indeed. 16:16 you can get some guaranteed wands of opening in the valley 16:16 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9046 16:18 ugh i have a nasty headache... didnt drink enough water today what it feels like 16:18 blah 16:18 Yeah, I have one from there as well, but it turns out I also know 'knock'. 16:18 Yay mobile 16:18 K2: Or not enough coffee, or ... blegh. :( 16:18 coffee... eww 16:18 Or tea, or whatever. :) 16:18 tea... eww 16:18 :P 16:18 K2: How is it we speak!? *gasp*! 16:18 i know, i'm not normal 16:19 * arahael makes the sign of a cross, and goes to talk to Kathryn instead. 16:19 i know right? my wife refers to coffee as The Life Force 16:19 She's not wrong. 16:19 i take my life into my own hands if i try to converse with her each morning beofre she's had a cup 16:19 I always knew whisky as the water of life 16:19 Hmm, I've a massive problem with weight at the moment. Perhaps with all this food and drink I'm carrying. 16:20 but that's different i guess 16:20 whisky, water of life 16:20 coffee, life force 16:20 aoei: What's vodka? 16:20 stuff russians drink? 16:20 idk 16:20 its deliciousness 16:20 vodka doesnt even taste of anything 16:20 its just pure alcohol 16:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:23718 16:20 I've a bottle of straight vodka infused with sugar and rhubarb in the cupboard. Half empty. 16:20 hmm that's open for debate 16:21 Vodka absolutely does have a taste. 16:21 ^ that 16:21 yeah ethanol taste 16:21 aoei you're thinking of everclear 16:21 No, not that. 16:21 lol 16:21 <{Demo}> idk what vodka ur drinking aoei 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:34564 16:21 idk probably not the good one 16:21 aoei: The bad vodka's have bad flavours. 16:21 most vodka i've tried is cheap crap 16:21 i admit it 16:22 the boss made more of her chocolate raspberry vodka this year 16:22 nice 16:22 * arahael tries to remember which sort of vodka has the *soap* aftertaste... Nevermind - it's one of the bad oens. 16:22 berries from our yard 16:22 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 16:22 its sooooooooooooo good 16:22 K2: How do you infuse the chocolate into it!? 16:22 godiva choc vodka from the liquor store :) 16:22 dbl-choc 16:22 Cheat. 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:828 16:22 it works 16:22 hey, if it tastes good it tastes good 16:23 hey we picked the berries 16:23 I'll grant that. 16:23 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 16:23 When it comes to drink - get the best you can afford, too. It's not like you're drinking multiple times a day. 16:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:34714 16:23 <{Demo}> always go cheap so u can drink more 16:24 hell yea {Demo} 16:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:34730 16:24 <{Demo}> that's the other mindset and it sounds like a bad one 16:24 Ha. 16:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Umbire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 7153 points, T:2307, killed by a crow 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 810816 points, T:34767, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1609182776.nh.html 16:25 GG 16:26 arahael: the one with cilantro 16:26 its the young person not making a lot of money yet mindset 16:26 i remember those days 16:26 white can/black label 'Beer' 16:26 thats it... Beer 16:26 I must've missed those days. Even then, I preferred quality over quantity. 16:26 $2.50 for a six pack 16:26 nasty rot-gut stuff 16:26 i can appreciate both 16:26 Yeah, I didn't like that crap, so I didn't drink that crap, even if it were free. 16:26 at least here in germany, good cheap beer exists 16:27 but if im drinking whisky 16:27 i want some of the good shit 16:27 16 yo lagavulin please 16:27 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27 i'm a glenlivet man 16:27 glenlivet is boring it doesnt taste of anything 16:28 i have some 18 yo in my stash 16:28 aoei... lol seriously 16:28 give me all the islay whiskies pelase 16:28 we're sending you back to the kids table 16:28 go sit 16:28 also you take that back 16:28 aoei: I *love* glenlivet! It's my staple whiskey! 16:28 ok maybe i have a dull palette 16:28 drink some Ardbeg 16:28 then you'll know what flavour is 16:28 im kidding... somewhat 16:28 glenlivet is nice enough 16:28 and what makes you think i haven't tried ardbeg? 16:28 I've heard of Ardbeg, and intend to try it, but glenlivet will remain my staple. It's familiar. Nourishing. Comforting. 16:28 i just like the strong peaty ones the most 16:29 i never developed a taste for scotch 16:29 hothraxxa: touché 16:29 i liek the smell though 16:29 like 16:29 K2: ok you never developed a taste for it 16:29 i tried 16:29 a lot 16:29 and yet you're sending me to the kids table for my comments on glenlivet? 16:29 I don't like whiskeys that "smell" or "taste" american - there's a certain flavour a lot fo the american whiskeys seem to have. 16:29 yes 16:29 i went through a phase where i had to try every scotch i could get my hands on 16:29 i think the most boring ones tho 16:30 are the swedish and japanese whiskies ive tried 16:30 itym bourbon (corn mash) 16:30 they're really clean and thus dont really taste of a whole lot 16:30 brb 16:30 i guess some people are into that 16:30 Honestly, I tend to find something I like - and then simply stick to it. 16:30 i am not 16:30 It's a good way to keep costs down. 16:30 unless what you like is super expensive i guess 16:30 The trick is to try those last. ;) 16:30 lol 16:30 Btw, even glenlivet is typically ~$70 AUD here. 16:31 the way i drink scotch is neat 16:31 Alcohol is crazy-high taxed. 16:31 hothraxxa: well duh 16:31 hothraxxa: That's teh onlyway. And at room temperature, too. 16:31 anything else would be heresy 16:31 actually a single drop of water is acceptable, to open the nose 16:31 well yea 16:31 true 16:31 Well, many say a few drops of water is the best way to have ardbeg, as an example, yeah - and many like it with ice but I feel that waters it down. 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1181 16:32 ice also changes the flavour quite a bit 16:32 But for glenlivet: Straight, neat, room temperature... It's the only way. 16:32 yeah ice will melt too much water into the whiskey and ruin it 16:32 i don't like cold scotch 16:32 and if you *are* gonna add water it should be a really tiny amount 16:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46341 16:33 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:33 its a good idea for cask-strength whiskies 16:34 I wonder what whiskey does for mouth ulcers, I've got one at the moment. (Picked it up when I was sick over christmas - I guess the body doesn't tend to it's usual healing when sick) 16:35 ardbeg 10 is one of my all time favourites, up there with lagavulin 16, but substantially cheaper 16:35 ardbeg 10 you can get here for about €45 16:35 lagavulin 16 closer to €60 16:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:36 some of the best cheaper ones tho are probably highland park 12, some of the cheaper bowmore ones (tho the bowmore 18 which is a bit more expensive is amazing) 16:36 and uh 16:36 laphroaig 10 or laphroaig quarter cask 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2769 16:36 i find the latter more balanced 16:36 10 is in your face 16:36 Heh. "You've been through the dungeon on a pegasus with no name" 16:37 hehe 16:37 damn i want some whisky now 16:37 im piss poor tho 16:37 cant afford it lol 16:37 *woah*. One kick from the pegasus, and the priest of moloch is *dead*. 16:37 :pog: 16:37 aoei: You'll have a drink next year, I'm sure. :) 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 356 points, T:1060, killed by a wounded giant mimic 16:38 no doubt 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh343] qt (Kni Hum Fem Law), 14316 points, T:4922, killed by a gnome king 16:38 rn im drinking lapsang souchong 16:38 so glenlivet 25 is $400 cdn 16:38 hothraxxa: oof 16:38 thats pricey 16:39 lapsang souchong is nice its smoky like a good whisky 16:39 it is but i might try it anyway. never had the 25 16:39 lol if u have teh cash to burn go for it 16:39 lemme know how it is 16:39 the 21 is only $300 16:40 how much is the 18? 16:40 i'd imagine 18 is a lot more reasonable 16:40 Is it possible to give the pegasus some sort of helm? 16:40 but then again canadian dollars aren't worth much i guess 16:40 they don't carry it anymore, but i think i paid $150 16:40 heh that still seems pricey 16:40 https://www.whiskyzone.de/glenlivet-18-jahre-batch-reserve 16:40 here we can get it for €60 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 130 points, T:530, killed by a falling rock 16:41 well founder's reserve (which is the new name for the 12) is $60 16:41 which apparently is about 94 of your CAD 16:41 but i guess it's also easier to ship it to germany 16:41 or maybe its a customs thing who knows 16:41 maybe brexit will make it more expensive here too :C 16:41 no it's a sin tax thing i assure you 16:42 aha 16:42 i wondered about that possibility too 16:42 i drink it really slowly in tiny amounts, so i don't really feel the price 16:43 ah ok 16:43 15-20 ml and that will take me all night to sip 16:43 !booze 16:43 * Beholder hands bouquet a barrel of the hooch, replicated by Izchak at 187 degrees Fahrenheit. 16:43 hothraxxa: I drink about one finger's thickness. :) 16:43 it's all about the aroma and taste, not the alcohol buzz 16:44 Indeed. 16:44 idk, i enjoy the aroma and taste but i also dont sip it quite that slowly lol 16:45 im like heythis is delicious more pls 16:45 you probably roll 2 g spliffs too 16:45 hahahaa 16:45 i dont really smoke weed these days 16:46 but last tiem i ate some stamps i had three of the bastards and they were strong too, reality disintegrated 16:46 neither do i. i stopped smoking it 10 years ago 16:46 Woah, a +4 leather robe. *leather*. 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:7205 16:46 nice 16:46 i vapourize about .05g a day though 16:46 cool 16:47 the head shop around the corner became a dispensary recently. it's quite convenient 16:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Set, on T:8023 16:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:54317 16:48 curbside or delivery right now 16:48 haha that is convenient 16:49 yeah. i can phone order and pickup in 20 minutes. if i order from my new dealer the government, it might come in the next post or maybe it'll be two days 16:50 some of the illegal online drug vendors will mail your stuff just as fast lol 16:50 but if you can get legal stuff its probably better quality etc 16:50 one assumes 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 522 points, T:1060, killed by a slightly wounded orc zombie 16:51 i mean if they're not regulating the legal weed whats even the point 16:51 my old dealer the weed dealer had some amazing stuff 16:51 nice 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:9353 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:9395 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 392 points, T:1666, killed by a wounded large mimic 16:53 anyway just like scotch i am a flavour chaser with weed, not looking for the highest thc content 16:53 hence never smoke. vapour only 16:54 ah 16:54 aromatherapy vaporizer is best, hothraxxa I concur. 16:54 =) 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased bag of holding named end my suffering", on T:9700 16:54 once i retire from the military, gonna start using CBD 16:54 knees and back 16:54 <{Demo}> i think thats gotta be healthier than a lot of the shit they give u 16:55 it works for me 16:55 hopefully by february 16:55 i bet they have regular drug tests in US military 16:55 <{Demo}> k2 how long have u been planning to retire and how many times have u delayed? 16:55 <{Demo}> r u in one of those "sweeten the pot" situations? 16:55 NAOrsa they do 16:55 i was recreational all my life, never applied for medical because i didn't think i qualified 16:55 then my back started up 16:55 {Demo} no delay. it's a medical retirement, taken about 1.5 yrs to complete 16:55 nigh cbd strains are a fantastic relief 16:56 <{Demo}> ah ok 16:56 high 16:56 cool hothraxxa 16:56 <{Demo}> i've known of ppl being like "yeah im gonna retire" but then they get made a deal that makes it worth them staying just a bit longer and that happens a bunch 16:56 yup heh 16:56 still never went medical because i had much better sources 16:56 they tried it with me 16:56 i declined 16:56 my gf brought home some pretty good CBD oil few months ago, put alas, the vial is empty now.. 16:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:54578 16:57 since leglaization however there are a lot more choices. i have a nice high cbd no thc strain 16:57 NAOrsa: how were you using it? 16:58 K2: cbd is snakeoil (I may get flamed for saying that). 16:59 oh just oral, few drops underneath tongue 16:59 never tried that. only vaped high cbd 16:59 bouquet: context? can't tell if you're serious 16:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:47482 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:11059 17:00 well... to be fair, I mean the CBD "enhanced" products out there like kombucha, soda, "essential oils", hand sanitizer, moisturizer... 17:00 ah yes. i agree with you there 17:00 i'm bit wary that my vaporizer could brake, if pure *oil* was innit 17:00 if you can get a pharmaceutical grade doce of cbd you might gain the chillax intrinsic. 17:00 what vapourizer do you have? 17:01 <{Demo}> one time i had a dream i was at the store and they were selling "Smackers" which were a caffeine/thc/alcohol mix all in one soda 17:01 NHS says "After taking medical cannabis, it's possible to develop any of the following side effects: (...) * feeling high" thanks, NHS 17:01 it's true! 17:01 Pinkbeast: rofl 17:01 also took me a sec to realiseyou didn't mean the nethack scoreboard XD 17:01 Oddly, they do not list "the munchies" 17:01 in fact cbd is often said to not have any psychoactive effects but this is *not* true 17:01 are y'all in states where it's easily accessible? Such a change in the atmosphere around smoking. 17:02 hothraxxa: this one https://magicvaporizers.com/boundless-cfx 17:02 boundless 17:02 (altho on behalf of the NetHack Scoreboard, yes, we also concur) 17:02 bouquet: i think only the bullshit snakeoil products are legal here in germany 17:02 some day... 17:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:03 NAOrsa: that is not a bad choice. are you familiar with fuckcombustion.com? 17:03 bouquet: It is easily accessible here, but not legal. :-) 17:03 WA and CO were first to fully legalize pot. There's at least 10 stores within 2-miles of my house. Unfortunately, I don't partake so I can't really enjoy the convenience. 17:03 Pinkbeast: lol 17:03 hothraxxa: no i havent =) 17:03 Pinkbeast: have you made any plans to exit the country yet 17:04 Trickier to do when one is mostly skint. 17:04 hothraxxa: but I am pleased with that one, my friend had the next model, and it broke fairly quickly.. sometimes things are overdeveloped i guess :D 17:04 And we seem to have gone for the less-bad "gradual descent into poverty and irrelevance" approach. 17:05 Pinkbeast: rip 17:05 im also skint as hell, but i already left 17:05 (Tho' there is some suggestion they'll just withdraw from the ECHR dropping us into "sudden descent" at a later date, hence the rumblings about reintroducing the death penalty) 17:05 im just hoping germany don't send me packing 17:06 hothraxxa: oh and I was lucky acquiring the boundless secondhand, but practically not used, in echange for 60 $ and a box of rooibos herbal tea =) 17:06 If I have to go Germany's probably best, I do at least speak abominable German 17:06 nice 17:06 i also speak really bad german 17:06 cool! 17:07 Hi Pink 17:07 -!- jizosaves has joined #hardfought 17:07 NAOrsa: i have a big craving for orange flavour redbush now 17:07 you are right though, you don't want to try oil in that 17:07 NAOrsa: thank you for taht 17:07 Hey NAOrsa 17:07 I was tagged as British once saying "Pizza salami, bitte" and two of the words in that aren't even German 17:07 well you probably said pizza normally 17:07 germans say it weird 17:07 its like they're saying the word pit 17:08 and then 'sa' tacked on 17:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide pair of speed boots", on T:47929 17:08 pitsa 17:08 It'sa pitsa 17:08 qt: :D 17:08 Well, Leipzig's got its own weird mushy accent on top of that 17:08 oh right 17:08 maybe they don't say it like i described 17:09 what i described is more like generic north german probably 17:09 They might - I'd be oblivious :-) 17:09 Early game wish for Elvish Wizard ? I already have speed boots 17:09 Pinkbeast: do you not have a good ear for accents etc.? 17:09 +2 SDSM? 17:09 aoei: Not very 17:09 jizosaves: +5 SDSM 17:09 go big or go home 17:10 bigly 17:10 does it need any modifiers? 17:10 Conversely the Canadian lass who lived with me for a decade claimed she could only discern two British accents, "Lister" and "Rimmer". 17:10 [hdf-eu] [spl] amateurhour (Mon Gul Mal Cha), 1031 points, T:785, killed by a killer mimic 17:10 verily i say unto thee, bigly wish for a big enchantment on that SDSM 17:11 Pinkbeast: Ha! 17:11 wish for it holy 17:11 holy +5 silver dragon scale mail 17:11 jizosaves: Not in vanilla, but it never hurts to wish for "fixed" 17:11 yeah it just doesn't actually make a difference for DSM 17:11 ... Amy has probably made it hurt somehow 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:13683 17:11 <-- huge Red Dwarf fan 17:11 Thanks guys 17:11 bouquet: i didn't get the joke til you mentioned red dwarf lmao 17:12 which one is the cat 17:12 One of the few things I'll watch over and over and still laugh heartily every time 17:12 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:12 I mean, fair enough, if I meet someone with a sort of American accent I ask if they're Canadian (because if they are, they'll be delighted) 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:13884 17:12 Ha 17:13 so, speaking of pizza... you made me hungry so I was planning dinner and my local shop has one called "Tropicana - Marinara sauce, Canadian bacon, pineapple, mandarin oranges, sliced almonds & coconut" 17:13 i started just asking people if they're north american 17:13 abomination or heaven? 17:13 bouquet: well, i won't stop talking to you 17:13 but we'll never be friends 17:14 I won't make anyone else eat it. 17:14 good 17:14 but my tastebuds are curious 17:14 fruit on a modern pizza - bleh 17:14 pineapple 17:14 bleh 17:14 pineapple is fine on pizza 17:14 if the sauce is good, sure 17:14 no 17:15 <{Demo}> i like food on pizza 17:15 Abomination 17:15 demo you can shorten that to 'i like food' 17:15 which is good 17:15 because ya know... kinda need it 17:15 Pizza should have meat on it, and maybe egg and garlic 17:15 beans on pizza 17:15 * K2 dry heaves 17:16 pizza does not need meat, there are fine veggie pizzaz 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "holy +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2551 17:17 Pinkbeast: back up a sec 17:17 egg on pizza? 17:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47938 17:17 tomato onion peppers, and for fungi some mushrooms 17:17 Egg on pizza! 17:17 <{Demo}> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389212978030968832/793241334727180318/2752ye18wma21.png 17:17 no egg. we forbid the egg 17:18 egg on anything? 17:18 i like eggs but it seems wrong on pizza 17:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:56056 17:18 <{Demo}> egg on pizza sounds AWESOME 17:18 im prepared to change my mind if i try it and its amazing 17:18 yolk on top of pasta? 17:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:56058 17:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:47961 17:18 It's pretty good, one egg in the centre so you get a bit on the end of each slice 17:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:47968 17:19 interesting 17:19 [hdf-au] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Neu), 43406 points, T:12942, quit 17:19 how is this abominatory egg prepeared? 17:20 because as an abomination, surely it is hard fried 17:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:1995 17:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) genocided master liches, on T:47974 17:20 I'm not sure, TBH, but it's pretty like a not-very-fried egg 17:20 I've had it kind of runny 17:20 It's certainly kind of runny 17:20 then the yolk should run, which is a great thing for an egg but not so much for a pizza 17:20 The yolk's just coherent enough 17:20 yeah hothraxxa has a point 17:21 hothraxxa, you forbi cheese and eggs? 17:21 *forbid 17:21 well i would definitely try it. it does sound tasty 17:21 it doesnt make sense 17:21 it's still an abomination 17:21 cooking wise 17:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 938 points, T:2031, killed by Mr. Asidonhopo, the shopkeeper 17:21 not cheese 17:21 * aoei also wants to try the abomination 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:15232 17:21 No, an Abomination is Laphroiag and Curiousity Cola 17:21 cheese belongs on pizza 17:21 works best with a thick, stiff crust. Then it's kind of like eggs and toast with some cheese and vegies mixed in. 17:21 Pinkbeast: oh dear god 17:22 *Laphroaig 17:22 no cola of any kind should be mixed with laphroaig :| 17:22 i mean, you can have a pizza without cheese but it's really disappointing 17:22 indeed 17:22 aoei: I've said many times to Abi "What do you want from the bar that's not an Abomination?" 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had a wooden curved sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:31263 17:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non) completed Sokoban, on T:8031 17:22 who is Abi 17:22 is she a drinker of abominations? 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3006 17:22 I mean, she can drink 'em with her own money but she's not using mine. 17:22 She's a London goth I know. 17:23 ah 17:24 was in italy a number of years ago, ordered a capriciosa pizza, got a bit confused when they brought it out with an egg on it. here in sweden a capriciosa is basically just tomato sause, cheese and sliced ham. 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4854 17:24 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:24 https://mynewsla.com/hollywood/2018/01/04/innovators-to-be-honored-at-scientific-and-technical-oscar-ceremony/ ahem, an Oscar-winning London goth I know :-) 17:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 greased godhands", on T:45015 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "holy ring of teleport control", on T:15544 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:15548 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:15555 17:28 hmm. the goth subculture sure has lasted 17:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:11606 17:28 i know some 60 yo goths 17:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2093 points, T:5546, killed by a wounded rothe, while helpless 17:28 Give it another 30 years we'll all be at New Model Army gigs bashing our Zimmer frames into each other 17:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:48170 17:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:48172 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:16058 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 holy charging", on T:16184 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:16207 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:16382 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16384 17:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 28204 points, T:12896, killed by an elven arrow 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 807 points, T:1252, killed by a wounded rothe 17:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) genocided arch-liches, on T:48637 17:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45241 17:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:48642 17:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:37 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 26.1] 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:17740 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:17749 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 32 points, T:354, killed by an uninjured water demon 17:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) was given Sode no Shirayuki, on T:49605 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:17939 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:17951 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:18148 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:18337 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:18342 17:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:49397 17:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:49668 17:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:49687 17:47 -!- jizosaves has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:18966 17:48 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 16 points, T:59, killed by a kobold zombie 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:19212 17:50 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) averted death (shot herself with a death ray), on T:19387 17:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:49805 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 144 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:19474 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:19600 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 14 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:19608 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 671 points, T:2062, killed by a slightly wounded giant ant 17:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:42002 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed wvc's ghost, the former Brigand, on T:27132 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:49886 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "3 cursed gain level", on T:19766 17:55 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 110 points, T:1012, killed by Mr. Ballingeary, the shopkeeper 17:55 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:42029 17:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "holy helm of opposite alignment", on T:19797 17:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:49911 17:57 Woo! I'm piously chaotic again! 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:21087 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:21088 17:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47969 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:27336 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:21378 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:21407 18:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 737882 points, T:21435, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1609190926.nh.html 18:03 GG! 18:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Malcanthet, on T:49206 18:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3559 18:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:49976 18:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Hlf Fem Neu), 2553713 points, T:49838, quit 18:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 2012854 points, T:49995, ascended 18:11 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jt/nethack/dumplog/1608738780.nh.html 18:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3758 18:11 riker noooooooooo 18:11 GG jt 18:12 gg jt 18:12 gg Luxi 18:12 gratz jilles 18:12 @Luxidream time? 18:13 oh gratz luxidream as well, didn't see it 18:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Filcher, on T:59130 18:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22971 18:17 lit_corridor in vanilla doesn't seem to have an effect whether I enable it or not. What else should I be checking? (looks great in evilhack, though) 18:18 bouquet: how different are your terminal colors for white and gray? 18:19 if they look very similar the difference can be hard to see, but lit_corridor should make visible corridor squares white 18:20 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28405 18:21 this is the difference on my machine, you can see it is very slight -- the left 2 columns are unlit and the right 2 columns are lit https://0x0.st/-rME.png 18:21 gnome-terminal sucks for setting colors 18:21 they're different enough, I think. 18:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:24 left is vanilla, right is evilhack. Same configs. https://i.imgur.com/WAUxCOC.png 18:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4358 18:25 pretty sure they're the same... I copied my vanilla config to evilhack a while ago. I don't think anything changed. 18:25 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:26 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Mon Hum Fem Law) had a pair of mud boots entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:3396 18:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:34 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:35 I think evilhack uses dark gray (\033[30m) for unlit corridors and nethack uses "normal" color (\033[0m) 18:35 <@luxidream> aoei: 1:34 18:35 so if you have the default text color set so that "normal" is the same as white (\033[39m) lit_corridor won't do anything in vanilla 18:36 pog 18:36 I'm not 100% certain that those are the values used but that's what it looks like to me at least 18:38 thanks, qt. I can investigate along those lines 18:40 you could run `echo $'\033[97m#\033[0m#'` in the terminal and see whether the two #s are different colors or not 18:41 isn't there a flag you have to pass to echo to get it to interpret those right 18:45 systemd is weird 18:45 how does this timer shit work 18:45 Oh yeah you're right, you might have to do echo -e depending on your version of echo and your environment variables 18:45 what happened to good old crontab 18:46 Can't you still use cron alongside systemd? cf macOS which won't let you use cron, only launchctl and plists 18:48 yeah i can 18:48 but i havent got a cron daemon installed atm 18:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger on an altar, on T:3381 18:49 aoei: learn about schedulig this with systemd, it's pretty good. 18:49 ah, thats what you're doing already. 18:49 arahael: well that's what im doing now lol 18:49 yeah 18:50 archwiki has guides 18:50 heh, yeah. 18:50 is there a % thingy for homedir for user service files 18:50 you can't use ~ in the ExecStart line as if it were a shell 18:50 or at least, it didn't seem to work 18:51 not sure, actually. but wouldnt the cwd be the home dir? 18:51 heh yeah that might work lol 18:51 didnt think of that xD 18:53 arahael: poggers :> 18:54 :) 18:54 where does that word come from? 18:55 https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/poggers 18:55 https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pogchamp 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Enchanter, on T:29984 18:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1531 points, T:3863, zombified by an orc zombie 18:55 i have possibly become slightly obsessed with this meme 18:56 wow I have seen people use it and sort of got it from context 18:56 but I have never seen that picture before 18:56 lol qt 18:56 i think i knew it for a while before i saw these pics 18:56 qt: your behold-less script is also pretty poggers :3 18:56 it is very expressive haha 18:57 ikr 18:57 thank you, I think you are very poggers too 18:57 <3 18:58 <@luxidream> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7awd-y_DTQY 18:59 lol wtf lux 18:59 who is that/whats it from? 18:59 <@luxidream> it's another meme 18:59 <@luxidream> that's the original 18:59 aoei: i have never seen that pic before! 18:59 oh i see 18:59 she reminds me slightly of Korra from Legend of 19:00 It's a character from that show about naked people fighting or something 19:00 They have to be naked to fight better 19:00 is that so 19:00 Oh it's called kill la kill 19:01 qt: i think i'd have to see it to believe you. 19:02 you don't trust them? 19:02 actually looking at the wikipedia article, I guess there is just one particular group in the show that fights in the nude 19:02 but the outfits of the other characters look pretty skimpy nonetheless 19:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:6095 19:04 sounds fun 19:05 aoei: i think it was more to "trust, but verify", i guess ;) 19:06 anyway. 19:07 i mean 19:07 its important to verify this, yes 19:07 Yeah, it's that kinda show 19:07 lol 19:07 Kinda up its ass about its own premise, though, and the ending just kinda shits terrible implications all over the place 19:07 oh 19:07 that's not very pogchamp :/ 19:08 I'd call it weirdchamp, even 19:08 * aoei shakes her head sadly 19:10 hey Lux i discovered something very interesting 19:10 I splat way more effectively at 4 kps and above 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:30513 19:10 <@luxidream> 👍 19:11 <@luxidream> usually my kps is higher than on that stream lol 19:11 at about 3.7 kps my survival rate is much better 19:11 <@luxidream> it's hard to keep it up for the whole game though 19:11 yeah i figured 19:11 when you're streaming and talking to people/reading chat you probably dont play as fast 19:12 aoei: try doing it in evil! or irc'ing, i find i tend to splat right *after* getting distracted. 19:12 <@luxidream> I watched some pokemon speedrun streams and they have so much time to chill and talk to chat 😐 19:12 probably with more practice i can maintain >4 kps without dying 19:12 why, loading screens and shit you can't skip past? 19:12 Clare complains (of Crawl) that she can play a game in the time it takes me to scratch my chin and think about my inventory 19:12 <@luxidream> cutscenes you can't skip and you're just pressing a 19:13 right 19:13 With Pokemon speedruns a lot of sections also become pretty rote after a while 19:13 but thats probably also kinda annoying lol 19:13 Esp. if manips are involved 19:13 for the player 19:13 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6049 points, T:7132, killed by a dwarf lord 19:14 <@luxidream> yeah probably not very engaging, especially since they have to play through the whole game just for a chance at better rng 19:14 i thikn on the stream i saw you had around 5.4 kps average 19:14 apparently on IRC my kps is around 5.8 lol 19:14 so i just gotta get as good at nethack as i am on IRC right? 🤔 19:15 <@luxidream> it's like 5.7 at the end of the stream 19:15 cool 19:17 <@luxidream> I'm starting to think nethack might be marathon safe if I can get a 3 hour window instead of 2 19:17 <@luxidream> since most of the deaths happen early on 19:18 <@luxidream> I don't think I could get a large enough sample size though 19:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Neu) averted death (choked on a flesh golem corpse), on T:64036 19:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 5815 points, T:6311, killed by a blast of frost 19:23 dangit 19:24 F 19:24 found an altar so i was trying to camp for a decent weapon and then i got mobbed by all these wolves and shit 19:25 which i coulda scared off with my horn that i forgot to use, but that maynot have saved me from the frost blasts 19:25 i even had conflict ring :c 19:25 and GDSM lol 19:25 <@luxidream> !lastgame aoei 19:25 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/nethack/dumplog/1608150825.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/nethack/dumplog/1609188444.nh.html 19:26 <@luxidream> rip 19:26 <@luxidream> looked like a pretty good game 19:26 i had too many monsters generate in the upper left room before revealing the secret door 19:26 shoulda paid more attention to the level with telepathy 19:26 probably would have been more manageable if i didn't let so many build up whilei was spamming 1000. 19:27 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 19:30 !rng wiz | priest 19:30 aoei: wiz 19:32 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:39 bouquet, qt - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/8167be4fd73ac21b26033acb5d86043b8eef755f 19:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1548 19:39 that's why you're seeing what you're seeing 19:39 grunthack, dnethack, unnethack are the same way 19:41 K2: nudge 19:41 Was talking to Chris, looks like you forgot to increment the version number for dNet on the settings editing screen 19:42 <@Umby> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793209041953357855/793272166996639754/unknown.png 19:42 oh that 19:42 yeah there's a few that need update 19:42 in fact i think i'll just drop the version numbers 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 195 points, T:1563, killed by a fox 19:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 644 points, T:1638, killed by an uninjured gnome 19:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4038 points, T:2785, killed by a giant mummy 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1307 19:48 Umbire i changed the edit config page, no version #'s 19:49 except for the vanilla nethack versions 19:49 das coo 19:49 (I liked seeing the numbers tho) 19:50 one less thing to have to remember to update :) 19:50 plus version number has no bearing on variant update 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 324 points, T:1465, killed by an uninjured rothe 19:52 catacombs is brutal 19:53 Very 19:53 I'm dreading having to eventually head there in Evil 19:53 <@luxidream> catacombs is optimal :3 19:54 yeah it's great for wiz but its also easy to die there 19:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:10991 19:54 idk if i shoulda dived straight for mines end 19:54 <@luxidream> the teleport traps make it the easiest one to escape 19:54 but im tryin to speedrun so wtf else am i gonna do lol 19:54 yeah true 19:54 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 19:54 i managed to scare off an ettin mummy 19:54 and then ran right into a giant mummy 19:55 did i have any escape items i wonder 19:55 !lastgame aoei 19:55 aoei: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/nethack/dumplog/1608150825.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/nethack/dumplog/1609201884.nh.html 19:55 bullied a mummy and ran into their cousin 19:55 rough 19:56 <@luxidream> looks like you had trash 19:56 <@luxidream> meh 19:56 oh well rip 19:56 its late anyway 19:56 im gonna go to bed 19:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11032 19:56 <@luxidream> 💤 19:58 Night! 19:58 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:00 xNetHack updated (all servers) 20:00 ty K2 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4432 20:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an amulet of flying on an altar, on T:5105 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:34407 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34408 20:11 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3273 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3344 20:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:14 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 20:15 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 20:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2119 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:4241 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Mon Hum Fem Law) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:4264 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Mon Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4264 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:2286 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6698 20:30 !who 20:30 K2: [hdf-us] VaderFLAG [evil] karibou [evil] oh6 [nh370] jizosaves [nh370] Thidwick [nh370] | [hdf-eu] Glord [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 20:52 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7636 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65051 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:65053 21:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Marksman, on T:65270 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:65276 21:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1307 21:07 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] gargor (Brd Orc Fem Cha), 98 points, T:125, killed by a sewer rat 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6062 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 1383526 points, T:65469, killed by the high priest of Moloch 21:12 [hdf-eu] [xnh] gargor (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 917 points, T:691, killed by a land mine 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:52696 21:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:52699 21:14 [hdf-eu] [dyn] asfd (gargor) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 264 points, T:236, killed by a boulder 21:16 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 9972 points, T:6762, killed by a wounded soldier ant 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1670 21:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] gargor (Bar Vam Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:935 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a mind flayer, on T:3312 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3662 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Sorcerer, on T:37711 21:30 <@Umby> Wow, missed another HPoM death 21:31 <@Umby> !lastgame eitbo 21:31 @Umby: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eitbo/nethack/dumplog/1608321344.nh.html 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 5622 points, T:6072, killed by a bolt of lightning 21:32 <@Umby> D: 21:32 <@Umby> Luxi nooooo 21:32 <@Umby> Also what did this person do, try to kill them before they turned hostile? 21:33 <@luxidream> need to eliminate user error 21:33 <@luxidream> D: 21:33 <@luxidream> also looks like they just died to damage 21:33 <@Umby> No but 21:33 <@Umby> Moloch kept smiting them 21:33 <@luxidream> that's completely normal 21:33 <@Umby> I never ran into that during my ascension... 21:34 <@luxidream> you did you just weren't paying attention 21:34 <@luxidream> it's just a lightning bolt 21:34 <@Umby> I'm pretty confident I would've noticed that is the thing 21:34 <@Umby> Feel like this is a 3.7ism but that I'm not so confident in 21:35 <@luxidream> I've seen this on every game I've played 21:35 <@Umby> Hm 21:36 <@luxidream> and I've played a lot of games 21:36 <@Umby> I mean you're more than likely right 21:36 <@Umby> But I can't imagine missing that 21:37 <@Umby> Hmmm 21:37 <@luxidream> you won't get that if you kill from outside the temple 21:38 <@Umby> Oh yeah, also I wasn't invisible 21:38 <@Umby> Dunno if that mattered any 21:38 <@Umby> (probably doesn't) 21:38 <@luxidream> no 21:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 stormhelm", on T:76264 21:44 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a bolt of cold), on T:3893 21:45 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] gargor (Bar Vam Fem Neu), 36518 points, T:4712, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:51 Looks like eitbo didn't have reflection 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 6160 points, T:4546, killed by a wounded watch captain 21:56 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 199 points, T:842, killed by a gecko 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:9088 21:57 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 22:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1083885 points, T:43384, fell to her death 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1632 points, T:5145, killed by an uninjured warhorse 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 699 points, T:1472, killed by a wounded dwarf 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 speed boots called New Balance", on T:54542 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1805 22:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:76849 22:08 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2950 22:14 !lastgame Arahael 22:14 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1609064674.evil.html 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:3409 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:7985 22:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:10633 22:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:11763 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 21198 points, T:12688, killed by an uninjured priestess of Set 22:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:29 <@luxidream> !lastgame . 22:29 @luxidream: No last game for .. 22:29 <@luxidream> !lastgame 22:29 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1609211059.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gargor/dnethack/dumplog/1609208055.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1609064674.evil.html 22:29 Oh shit D: 22:29 Stormbringer'd eh? 22:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14085 22:30 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 22:30 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 22:30 <@luxidream> no 22:32 ...oh 22:32 How'd you spook them? 22:33 <@luxidream> I don't know 22:33 I'm guessing the attempt to displace them got treated as a "bump" which angered them somehow? 22:33 * Umbire shrugs 22:34 <@luxidream> seems like a bug 22:34 Aye 22:34 Shit way to lose a run regardless 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, zapped herself with a wand 22:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 587 points, T:866, killed by an uninjured priestess of Thoth, while paralyzed by a monster 22:40 <@luxidream> Yep I can replicate it 22:41 <@luxidream> !lastgame 22:41 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1609212957.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gargor/dnethack/dumplog/1609208055.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1609064674.evil.html 22:43 Time to bug the devs again 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10988 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:11601 23:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Aborigine, on T:4392 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:28232 23:21 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 102 points, T:250, killed by a nearly deceased jackal 23:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 56 points, T:224, killed by an uninjured fox 23:26 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:21995 23:27 -!- Muad has joined #hardfought 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 1308 points, T:1499, killed by a wounded gnome lord 23:30 for a monk to do silver damage without a weapon do they have to "wield" a silver ring? Or do they have to wear it while gloveless for silver damage? 23:32 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1421 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1560 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2231 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:2666 23:39 bouquet: I think they have to wield a silver non-weapon or else wear a silver ring 23:39 Specifically without gloves in the latter case 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:3756 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 6922 points, T:3948, quit 23:41 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 23:41 Wiki confirms as much 23:41 Hi there 23:41 o/ 23:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Pri Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9038 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 297 points, T:782, killed by a slightly wounded giant bat 23:44 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 23:45 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 790 points, T:1571, killed by a magic missile 23:47 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:48 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:66119 23:57 nothing gets your heart racing like a surprise appearance of yeenoghu when you barely have any offensive capabilities! 23:59 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought