00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5203 00:12 WOO 00:13 Full ID off identify scroll drop 00:13 ...had a ring of sustain ability, interesting 00:13 NICE 00:13 The broadsword I lifted from that dead Elvenking is +2 00:14 I am DEFINITELY twoweaponing with that 00:14 Aw, Tyr fireproofed the gloves he gavem e 00:14 me* 00:14 What a pal 00:14 0:14 bag of tricks, 0:72 magic marker 00:14 OOH 00:15 Potion of gain level 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:83782 00:15 Protection from shape changerrrrrs! 00:15 Now all I have to do is just sacrifice stuff 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:6632 00:24 Need to get used to autodigging 00:25 krm26__ it does 00:26 Umbire o/ 00:26 This has been such a good game so far 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3495 00:27 awesome 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3553 00:28 YES 00:28 Lamp wish get! 00:28 I'm getting my bag of holding 00:28 \o/ 00:29 (unless someone has genuinely better ideas) 00:29 do you have reflection and MR yet 00:29 imo those two are priorty above all else 00:30 I have reflection from Dragonbane 00:30 No MR yet 00:30 get MR 00:30 what are you playing as? 00:30 but my packratting... :< 00:30 Lawful humie valk 00:30 you'll find a bag evenually 00:30 GDSM 00:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3664 00:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3694 00:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3695 00:32 Hm, have to admit I was fond of this cloth chain mail 00:32 GDSM it is then 00:32 How high an enchantment can I wish for tho 00:32 or amulet of MR 00:32 🤔 00:32 you can wish up to +5 but +2 is a safe bet 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:7439 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:7439 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:44404 00:34 So same as always eh? 00:35 I wanna keep the amulet slot open 00:35 your choice 00:35 Also should it be fixed/greased or what 00:35 be aware, GDSM secondary property is cancellation 00:35 so things that hit you, sometimes things in their open inventory gets cancelled 00:36 *sigh*. So I'm on a nymph level, an dlvl 5. And I suspect that the unhittable aphrodite has *all* my inventory now. 00:36 or the monster itself (if being attacked by zombies, this is a Good Thing™ 00:36 Duly noted 00:36 Fuck Zombies™ 00:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3942 00:36 No but seriously, greased or fixed? 00:37 GDSM is already fooproof 00:37 greased is fine 00:37 I pummelled Aphrodite!!! Woohoo! So I seem to have a 0.5% hit rate. 00:37 bet 00:37 heh 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:18108 00:38 Sike, my chainmail was wooden 00:39 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 boots of speed", on T:86932 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 4569 points, T:4474, killed by a death ray 00:44 !lastgame asus 00:44 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/asus/nethack/dumplog/1609044019.nh.html 00:44 Tried to put an elvenking to sleep, rough 00:48 ...and I summoned more zombies. 00:48 And they ate my dog's brain. 00:49 Umbire: One tip i've had: Get a helm ASAP, and wear it. Even if cursed. 00:49 I already haveo ne 00:49 It's my fucking pets that keep dying to them 00:49 Ah, yeah. :) 00:50 I'm tired of this but I also literally have only one eucalyptus leaf to even offer. 00:51 Actually sike, potions of healing also seem to work...? 00:51 If blessed, yes. 00:51 Evil is seriously hard. I've never ascended it. 00:51 Didn't you say your first game was going "well"? :D 00:52 Well enough, all things considered 00:52 The fact that it's still going for one 00:52 ...yeah, the potion I panic threw after dropping something to make room for it seems to have been blessed. 00:53 and I'm wrong. 00:53 Goddamn zombies, gonna make them pay 00:53 First I have to get them the hell away from the altar 00:53 You eventually develop a kind of PTSD against zombies when you go back to vanilla. 00:54 I'm even considering eating them once I get a unicorn horn, though that's risky. 00:54 Would *love* tinning kits. 00:55 I'd try that here if I wasn't sure I'd just get instantly zombified 00:55 if I was sure I wouldn't just* 00:56 I'm not fully certain myself, plus, I don't know when the timer starts. You do get TermIll first, but whether you get TermIll from your first bite and then become Zombified when you finish, I'm not sure. 00:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3385 points, T:3626, killed by a human mummy 01:00 I suspect you'll be better at evil than I am, though. 01:01 We'll see. 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 1849 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:47011 01:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1706 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful ogre king, on T:88630 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful steam vortex, on T:88646 01:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:6307 01:14 Hm, if I can get my horse to carry this box all the way... 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:48134 01:18 -!- tjw has joined #hardfought 01:19 Did 3.7.0 get updated on hdf recently? 01:22 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "fainted from lack of food"] 01:25 Yes it did 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 4558 points, T:3909, killed by a nearly deceased white unicorn 01:46 I wonder what's a good wish in evilhack. Can you wish for specific things such as "blessed fixed dragonhide speedboots"? 01:46 I mean dragonhide is inherently fooproof 01:46 But that's what I did 01:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7531 01:50 "You feel less hassled." 01:50 Now if I can just get rid of the others... 01:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 3692 points, T:4308, killed by a dwarf king 01:53 Umbire: I guess saying 'fixed' is a bit of habit. 01:53 Umbire: i've never had a wish in evilhack! You're certainly doing well. 01:53 I usually do greased since I'm used to DSM wishes and those are inherently proofed 01:53 I mean that was luck tbf, RNG wand of wishing and magic lamp so far 01:53 I'm trying to get more on purpose, smoky potions are fruit juice 01:54 Ah, nice. 01:57 Currently I'm exterminating zombies and stashing them in a box my horse carried while I brought us upstairs 01:57 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 01:57 -!- Alasnuyo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00 Nice. 02:00 Actually that's an idea I've never tried. 02:00 It's an old trick for troll disposal 02:01 Does it work with sacks, too? 02:01 Nah, you have to be able to lock the container 02:01 ...actually no, might work if you put it in another container 02:01 Hmmm 02:01 In any event corpses are invariably heavy so 02:04 Hmm, so you have to lock the chest after? 02:04 Ye, ensures they can't get out 02:04 For reference, I think eggs just require /any/ container to kill them. 02:04 I wonder if you can also drown them 02:04 Ah, interesting. 02:04 Doubt it - zombies don't breathe. 02:05 That's the million dollar question there 02:05 Gah, got distracted. :( Walked into water. 02:06 :[ 02:06 Could be worse, and I'm still very early game, so quite recoverable. 02:06 Now I've fallen down two trapdoors, and now I'm in orctown. 02:06 I did the same in the Mines 02:06 ...uh oh 02:06 Right in the middle of orctown. 02:08 I thought I was in orctown... 02:09 (There were named orcs) 02:11 That's most of the corpses in the box but one 02:17 Can a saved game on the previous version of 3.7.0 be restored on hdf? 02:18 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 crystal pick", on T:40377 02:19 Possibly? 02:19 I mean is the save actually broken outright, or...? 02:19 It just gives the prompt for a new game instead 02:19 Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, right 02:19 Was it you that had that issue earlier or someone else... 02:20 I emailed the admins. It's not under my username though 02:22 So this is a problem someone else had? 02:22 Or am I not understanding 02:22 Oh, wow. Fell down a shaft all the way to the balrog temple. 02:22 I'm in the little dark maze behind the temple. 02:23 It's a problem on a different account, charlie14690 02:23 Have they emailed the admins? 02:23 I'm trying to help him with the problem 02:24 Ah 02:24 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 02:24 I feel like it's possible but I'm not an admin so 02:24 Wonder if K2 or Tangles is present atm 02:25 !tell stenno I found this low effort shitpost in my unlisted videos and thought you might appreciate it 02:25 Will do, luxidream! 02:25 !tell stenno https://youtu.be/EQaesOS9dz4 02:25 No worries, luxidream, I've got this! 02:25 That 'tell' command is convenient, more convenient than memoserv. 02:26 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 02:27 Feels weird doing the balrog temple from the back. 02:27 Got a lot of luck from these sacs 02:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a wormwood staff entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:1955 02:29 the staff of divination! 02:29 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Client Quit] 02:29 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:29 Sick! 02:30 Unfortunately, as a monk, it's a bit pointless. 02:31 I mean you're not gonna be *attacking* with it technically 02:31 * Umbire taps forehead 02:31 it's a spellcasting aid, right? 02:31 Yes, but you have to weild it, I believe. 02:31 *wield it. 02:31 ...then again you don't want to risk weaponless breaking again, I assume 02:31 And as a monk, I can already cast divination spells just fine... 02:32 Or I would if I actually knew any divination spells. 02:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed asus' ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:2033 02:35 Doesn't it let you cast them as though you were a higher skill level? 02:35 (because if not they should) 02:35 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 02:36 No, just gives a 50% boost. 02:37 Yep, I think all the corpses rotted away now 02:38 Sike, still the hobbit corpse left but got in and out with no problem 02:41 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:42 Mah, some 20 helms. Not one was enchanted to any degree. 02:42 ...okay, what 02:44 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792659263305941032/putty_9MCC553kPb.png 02:44 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792659267701178388/putty_an3LpKttiR.png 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 888 points, T:2317, killed by uninjured invisible Mr. Kyzyl; the shopkeeper 02:47 Heh. 02:47 Umbire: Evilhack is *much* more interesting. :) 02:48 Ooh, lesser nightmare. 02:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 9094 points, T:2717, killed by a wolf 02:50 Umbire: Yeah, they're fun. :) 02:50 Umbire: More dangerious than ponies, but likes apples just as much! 02:50 Speaking of once I'm done on fl1 I need to hit up that garden 02:50 it has a tree in it! 02:50 Ok, I need to try something other than human monk. 02:50 Lots of trees in evil. 02:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:52 I went with the RNG, and I'm a... Lawful, human, sumarai. 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:96498 02:52 [hdf-us] [slex] Abdlabl (Jed Woo Fem Neu), 1609 points, T:1414, killed by a monster (giant spider) 02:52 You say that like Sams can be anything else 02:52 (...can they?) 02:52 * Umbire hopes 02:54 I think they can. 02:54 Like? o: 02:54 *never* played sumarai before. 02:54 lul 02:55 They can also be Dwarf or Giant. 02:55 Huh. 02:56 Evil has *way* more role combinations. 02:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:56 I know, didn't know that was one of them 02:57 Figured KK'd keep it a human role, pleasantly surprised 02:57 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 02:57 I think it's the only role in which a giant will have armour that fits. 02:58 And that armour is irreplaceable. 02:58 Custom made, naturally 02:58 Indeed. 02:58 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:59 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 03:01 -!- oh7 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:02 water prayer successful, blessed the +2 elven broadsword 03:02 ...aw man 03:02 still no smoky wishes 03:02 ah well 03:02 Good place to stop for now 03:02 I'll be on the discord side, g'night if I miss anyone leaving! 03:03 Laters! 03:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1045 03:05 mornin 03:05 night Umby 03:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1580 points, T:1219, killed by a soldier ant 03:08 Hmm, team-a. Looks like sams fit my playing style, though. 03:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wvc (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 831 points, T:142, killed by an air elemental of Ishtar 03:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 988 points, T:1335, killed by a snake 03:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:11 <@Umby> btdubs, seem to have confused Geoduck with DawnHack, which actually looks like what I was thinking of when I brought up the former 03:11 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792665927375519774/Screenshot_20201227-031036.png 03:11 !rng NetHack | NetHack 03:11 aoei: NetHack 03:12 thanks Beholder 03:12 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Abldabl (Ana Inc Fem Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2372 03:12 aoei: You should join me on evil monk. 03:13 <@Umby> Oh yeah, I wanted to start D or xNet next as well 03:13 <@Umby> !RNG xNethack | dNetHack 03:13 @Umby: dNetHack 03:13 <@Umby> Sorry aosdict, hands are tied 03:14 lol Umby 03:15 <@Umby> Also problem with DawnHack tiles is they can technically spoil item identities 03:15 <@Umby> e.g. Bag of tricks vs. other bags 03:16 aight y'all, time to speedrun splat some elven wizards 03:16 Got my mother taken back inside again, I had her sitting on the BBQ all afternoon in the warm weather. She should make great bread now. :D 03:16 aoei: Have you tried elf in evil? :D 03:16 arahael: I'm not listening because you told me what I should do and that annoys me :D 03:17 aoei: Also, you should TOTALLY use daggers to start out, and... ;) 03:17 lmao 03:17 keep it up I might daggerchuck at your FACe 03:17 <3 03:17 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 03:17 aoei: It's not an acronym, I'm not /that/ ugly. ;) 03:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:11329 03:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:11329 03:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Abldabl (Ana Inc Fem Neu), 19439 points, T:3621, killed by a blue jelly 03:23 <@luxidream> fun fact: you can pacify the high priest of moloch and buy protection from them 03:23 <@luxidream> good night 03:24 uh oh 03:24 minesflayer 03:24 rip 03:24 <@Umby> Night Luxi 03:24 arahael: what would FACe be an acronym for? 🤔 03:25 luxidream check scoreboard in the morning 03:25 :3 03:25 <@Umby> Facial Approximation Carapace? 03:25 aoei: I'm hoping it stands for "Fairly Admirable Careful Entity" 03:25 arahael: but that wouldn't indicate ugliness 03:25 aoei: I was *hoping* it stood for it. 03:25 your comment implied someting that means ugly :D 03:25 <@luxidream> What u add 03:25 check gametime and realtime 03:25 <@luxidream> I don’t see anything 03:26 I strongly suspect it does not mean what I hope it means. 03:26 <@luxidream> I saw the versions already 03:26 <@Umby> Hmm, phone Rogue is finding a lot of early shit 03:26 <@luxidream> What else has changed? 03:26 * aoei actually thinks Fairly Admirable Careful Entity is a good description of arahael 03:26 ah no its just that 03:26 the version filter links 03:26 <@Umby> Need an altar now 03:26 i am proud of this 03:27 sleep well luxidream 03:27 <@luxidream> thank 03:27 <@luxidream> Good luck on your run 03:27 cheers im gonna need it 03:28 i also want a kps meter now lol 03:28 there must be linux ones too i guess 03:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 936 points, T:2518, killed by uninjured Mr. Melac; the shopkeeper, while praying 03:35 <@Umby> GL aoei! 03:35 thanks 03:36 I just want to ascend a wizard in sub 2h and under 10k turns 03:36 how hard could it be 03:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:100996 03:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Qwesti's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:7724 03:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:101184 03:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:101199 03:43 <@Umby> Oh, there's my altar 03:44 <@Umby> Thanks game 03:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1288 03:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 5472 points, T:1430, killed by a gnome king 03:48 poggers 03:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:101412 03:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 204 points, T:244, killed by a water moccasin 03:52 -!- rossyrg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:52 -!- rossyrg has joined #hardfought 03:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 303 points, T:431, fell into a pit 03:55 Hmm, I'm confused, why is it that I seem to have extrinsic ESP? I ate a floating eye, but I'm not blind... 03:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1748 points, T:1492, killed by a watch captain 03:57 We'll never know! 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:101686 03:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:101688 03:58 It did seem to be restricted to other magical creatures, though. 03:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 1663 points, T:1464, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping off a magical draught 04:07 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 04:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:102772 04:11 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:103239 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 21079 points, T:8121, killed by a mumak, while fainted from lack of food 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 101 points, T:502, killed by a poisonous corpse 04:19 <@Umby> arahael: oh, you can detect other creatures with Esp extrinsically if you have it 04:19 <@Umby> ofc they can also see you 04:19 Umby: Fascinating. 04:20 <@Umby> ESP* 04:20 <@Umby> Assuming Evil as usual 04:20 Yep. 04:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:5565 04:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 358 points, T:1295, killed by an uninjured newt, while fainted from lack of food 04:25 nice, I have kps meter now 04:26 https://github.com/RoanH/KeysPerSecond <-- p sure this is the same one i saw lux using lol, the display looks identical 04:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 100 points, T:419, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 04:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 302 points, T:590, killed by an uninjured hobbit 04:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:104090 04:37 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 04:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed partly eaten cockatrice corpse", on T:104097 04:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:104115 04:40 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:41 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 04:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed Malcanthet, on T:49308 04:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:104178 04:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:44 "You see here a statue of a wizard named nabru" 04:45 <@Umby> Well, splatted that Rogue, attempt 2 coming up 04:45 <@Umby> Also probably found some bones there 04:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7781 04:47 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:49358 04:48 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 04:48 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 04:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:104278 04:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:104308 04:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed Glasya, on T:49435 04:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine (5 times), on T:104328 04:52 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 04:52 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed icebox", on T:104333 04:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 1535 points, T:636, killed by a small crossbow bolt 04:56 -!- joes_ is now known as joes 04:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed the invisible Daemon, on T:49507 04:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:104338 04:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) averted death (petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed), on T:104339 04:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1628979 points, T:104339, petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed (with the Amulet) 04:58 Weird, I seem to *always* get the balrog temple now. 05:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 8317 points, T:3972, killed by a narrow pointy spike 05:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Godhands", on T:8664 05:11 oh wow thats a nasty astral splat 05:11 stenno: Message from luxidream at 2020-12-27 02:25 EST: I found this low effort shitpost in my unlisted videos and thought you might appreciate it 05:11 stenno: Message from luxidream at 2020-12-27 02:25 EST: https://youtu.be/EQaesOS9dz4 05:13 lol 05:13 Ooh, missed that. Ouch. 05:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 345 points, T:2207, killed by a boulder 05:18 <@Umby> Someone wasn't minding their gloves :c 05:18 <@Umby> Anyhow, Rogue gal take 3 05:18 <@Umby> (go team a!) 05:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2064 points, T:2899, killed by a goblin outrider 05:26 <@Umby> !lastgame Alex 05:26 @Umby: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Alex/nethack/dumplog/1608937413.nh.html 05:27 <@Umby> Even worse, jesus 05:29 <@Umby> Polymorphed into dragon via quaff that I'm unsure was random or not, lost the gloves along with most of their other armor, and blind-stumbled onto their c corpse by default 05:29 <@Umby> I really hope that wasn't a random quaff 05:32 <@Umby> ...actually seems to have been intended, but looks all the worse for it now 05:33 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:34 <@Umby> Might've helped to unblind and/or stash the footrice corpse 05:34 [hdf-eu] [slex] Ulf (AmyBSOD) (Ast Hrl Mal Neu) killed the Beholder, on T:41232 05:34 <@Umby> Dunno if there was time/room to do so though 05:35 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 05:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Silver Dragon Scale Mail", on T:11717 05:43 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 05:45 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 05:46 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:47 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 05:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:52 <@Umby> And third one down due to a gamble on Ray length that backfired 05:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14477 06:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:50858 06:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:50887 06:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:50975 06:07 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Raider, on T:11363 06:08 Aha, reached mines-end, which turns out to be the rat-king sewer. I know what to do here! 06:08 * arahael promptly leaves. 06:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed Aldinach, on T:51111 06:15 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:51481 06:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1254 06:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) destroyed the invisible Pestilence, on T:51558 06:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) destroyed Famine, on T:51594 06:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) destroyed Death, on T:51624 06:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law), 6292174 points, T:51643, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1608849727.dnh.txt 06:34 <@p0werm0de> gg 06:35 Umby: For the record, eating zombies does not appear to be an insta-death, but I suspect you've only got one or maybe two chances to cure yourself. 06:36 <@malor> thanks 06:44 who the hell had the bright idea of adding a "lag trap" to slex 06:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] kalik (Arc Hlf Mal Law), 52 points, T:221, killed by a grid bug 06:53 What's that? 06:53 it makes the game lag when triggered 06:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:19447 06:54 and of course I triggered one 06:57 LarienTelrunya: Nasty. 06:57 indeed! 06:58 so many good amulets, yet I can only wear one of them at a time :/ got reflection, ESP, drain resistance and flying, and obviously reflection is the most important 06:59 Is reflection 100% reliable in slex? 06:59 nah, 75%, except for death and disintegration rays where it's 95% 07:00 Ah, interesting, same as for evil. I suspect that's where evil must've taken it from. 07:00 * arahael should try slex and the other variants once he's got evil down. 07:00 huh really, evil has the same values? IIRC evil took it from sporkhack? 07:01 TWO wands of poly!? Interesting. 07:01 I know even less of sporkhack than i do slex. :( 07:02 damn I'm such a bad player. why did I forget that I'm wearing the cloak of protection and not the lab coat? now I once again lost strength to a kobold corpse 07:04 yeah evil reflection is different from slex 07:04 it always works, but you still suffer some damage 07:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given the Vampire Killer, on T:20698 07:06 -!- joes has left #hardfought 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6395 07:09 You sit on the opulent throne. Your vision becomes clear. 07:09 was that me getting see invisible back? 07:11 Hmm, I think the best thing for a monk in evil is probably going to be the amulet. 07:11 (In soko) 07:11 Ie, out of the three options, I probably should go for the amulet. 07:11 Sucks if it's not reflection, but then, at least, I'll have a good MR. 07:12 G'night! 07:12 night! 07:12 (early afternoon here) 07:13 <@p0werm0de> 13:13 07:14 yep, that's what my clock shows too 07:14 <@p0werm0de> Ä 07:14 p0werm0de: are you also german? :) 07:14 <@p0werm0de> ye 07:14 <@p0werm0de> the most central imaginable 07:14 guten Nachmittag :D 07:14 <@p0werm0de> salve 07:15 man it's really good to finally be able to cast restore ability 07:15 <@p0werm0de> i noticed charm monster is kinda OP 07:16 <@p0werm0de> got summon nastied from alich and after 1 cast had them all as allies in molochs sanctum 07:16 haha, yeah charm monster is "turbonerfed" (Demo would probably use that word to describe it) in slex 07:18 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 367135 points, T:21877, killed by brainlessness 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8446 points, T:7207, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu), 206 points, T:841, killed by a wand 07:43 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu), 413 points, T:2967, killed by an uninjured gecko 07:46 this could take a while to clear out https://abload.de/img/ogrebigroompck09.png 07:50 sup 07:50 aoei! *bundle heart* :) 07:50 heartbundeling 07:50 merry third day of christmas! 07:51 haha thanks, merry fifth advent to you too :D 07:52 my slex astronaut got some nice spoils today including an increase in the skill cap for knife and unlocked the healing spells skill, but I lost teleport control and technicality :( 07:52 wait why fifth 07:52 well Dec 20 was fourth advent, so today is fifth advent :P 07:53 what 07:53 what does that all mean 07:53 how does it work 07:53 it's probably called something else in english 07:53 oh is it hte sundays of advent thing 07:53 yeah i have no idea 07:53 i probably knew once 07:53 yeah four specific sundays are the sundays of advent, the fifth sunday of advent doesn't really exist 07:54 aha 07:54 in german you say "am fünften Advent hast du Weihnachten verpennt" :P 07:55 do you? 07:55 isn't it "..und wenn die fünfte Kerze brennt, hast du Weihnachten verpennt"? =) 08:00 there's probably several such lines 08:01 trimmed my weechat to just 11 buffers B^) 08:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:12225 08:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:12226 08:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3231 08:19 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 08:21 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 08:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3849 08:23 -!- aoei has quit [Client Quit] 08:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7133 08:37 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 08:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5772 08:51 !pom 08:51 aoei: The moon is waxing gibbous; full moon in 1 day. 08:58 -!- krm26__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:58 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1005 points, T:2050, killed by an Uruk-hai 09:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2169 points, T:1417, killed by an uninjured hobbit 09:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:12977 09:10 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided class R, on T:12977 09:10 Left, and Right, I suppose. 09:11 Tangles: ha 09:11 nice 09:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 71 points, T:422, killed by a wounded jackal 09:11 I'd probably go L and h tho 09:11 myself 09:11 but then it ruins the joke 09:13 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 09:16 kps counters are fun 09:16 i seem to average 4 while playing NetHack 09:17 Get that higher or we'll kick you from the raid 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8177 09:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:13145 09:18 krm26: :( 09:18 im working on it! 09:18 i watch lux streaming with one once and I think he had kps of 5.4 or so 09:18 so 4 isn't that bad i guess 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed asus' ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:8337 09:19 i ran into serious nymph problems and #quit 09:19 !rng try again | accept defeat 09:19 aoei: accept defeat 09:19 :c 09:19 !rng try again | accept defeat 09:19 aoei: try again 09:19 ok 09:20 Does anyone ever NOT kill Medusa by digging down and ascending? 09:20 I usually kill her on the way down 09:20 travel across the water 09:20 krm26: I have let her live on speedruns sometimes 09:21 you can avoid her if you use c!oGL on the way up 09:21 like, dig past her and ignore her on the way up 09:21 you can also just ignore her and run 09:21 true 09:21 if you're reflecting and invisible she won't die 09:21 or if you're not reflecting but you're blind i suppose that also works 09:22 elenmirie_: if you want to see your kps while playing nethack you can download this program: https://github.com/RoanH/KeysPerSecond 09:22 there's a windows executable 09:22 i'll brb, then try another couple of runs 09:22 i definitely make more dumb mistakes trying to play fast lol 09:23 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 272297 points, T:13294, drowned in a moat by a kraken, while unconscious from rotten food 09:23 im hoping i will make fewer with practice and then i will ascend sub 2h like a true PogChamp 09:23 fuck rotten food 09:23 thanks aoei 09:23 I am so sick of dying to that bullshit. 09:23 just play vegan lol 09:23 problem solved 09:23 It was a food ration 09:24 :-( 09:24 so no that does not solve it 09:24 By the castle I'm always eating K-rations 09:24 :/ 09:24 wait how do you die to a food ration? 09:24 !lastgame Tangles 09:24 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1534858827.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/slex/dumplog/1523968901.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1608977256.nh.html 09:24 I have also died to rotten K rations. 09:24 how?? 09:24 on Astral 09:24 that's not very poggers Tangles 09:24 hm 09:24 You can get confused from rotten food randomly 09:24 get satiated on water plane maybe 09:25 I didn't think it ever happened from blessed K-rations tho 09:25 then less likely to have food issues on astral 09:25 what I really don't understand (and obviously fixed in slex) is that even blessed ones can randomly be rotten 09:25 i rarely have to eat on astral 09:25 Tangles: or, polyself to mmf, your enemies brains become food :3 09:25 and you can build up satiation indefinitely without choking 09:26 so Famine can't do shit lol 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:8752 09:26 Yeah until you try to eat a wraith corpse; or an egg for confusion, and instantly choke to death. 09:26 yeah 09:26 i've done that a few times 09:26 the key is to not do that 09:26 yep, just wizmoded, NetHack 3.6.6 34c56eece it still happens: blessed K-ration gave "Bleech! Rotten food!" 09:27 but it is rather upsetting when you forget a ruin a run to dumb moves like that lol 09:27 LarienTelrunya: it sounds VERY slexlike that blessed food would still have a chance of being rotten and making you pass out, I don't get why you "fixed" it 09:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3053 09:28 aosdict: lmao, i was thinking the exact same 09:28 aosdict: lol so vanilla is actually more slexlike than slex in that regard? :P IMHO if you already use up resources (holy water) to bless your food, it should at least do *some*thing 09:28 it *does* do something Amy 09:28 it just has no effect on that particular thing 09:29 <{Demo}> how long does rotten food freeze u for? 09:29 i forgot what it *does* do 09:29 but it does something 09:29 I thought cursed food was more likely to get you, so blessed is one additional step from cursed 09:29 cursed food is guaranteed to be rotten 09:29 blessed gives you this message about "that food really hit the spot!" 09:29 but there's still a chance of it being rotten insteadc 09:29 Which is why you have to grease your blessed K-rations :-) 09:30 but i forget exactly what happens when food really hits the spot 09:30 doesn't blessed food extend the lifetime of how many turns it will be before "rotten food" is a possibility 09:30 doesn't that just mean you ate a food ration while hungry or worse? 09:30 Yes (assuming it wasn't rotten) 09:30 <{Demo}> just don't eat unless you are in a spot you feel comfortable being frozen for the maximum number of turns food can freeze you for 09:31 aosdict: from 20 to 30, yeah, but you got that K-ration stack at T:23000, having entered the castle at T:22500 or so, and enter astral at T:43000 so those 30 turns have loooong passed :P 09:31 aosdict: hmmm im ont sure 09:31 and this is very useless as heroes carry around permafood for thousands of turns and the "fresh lifetime" of food is in the dozens of turns 09:31 you often don't even *find* food in that lifetime 09:31 if it generates in like the castle storerooms it'll be hundreds of turns 09:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3682 09:31 or sokoban 09:32 I removed the ability for non-cursed food to be rotten 09:32 oh lol 09:32 yeah thats prettypointless lmao 09:32 <{Demo}> ok its 1-10 turns of KO 09:32 {Demo}: That is obviously the solution... but having to consider that literally every time you eat something takes something away from the enjoyment of the game (for me anyway) 09:32 <{Demo}> I agree, it's bullshit 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1293 09:33 <{Demo}> so is DYING because you over ate 09:33 <{Demo}> i over eat all the time irl and im not dead 09:33 choking to death is kinda mean lol yeah 09:33 Now, I'm all for the idea of getting rid of bullshit typo deaths... 09:33 Come on, we've all almost died trying to eat an entire dragon 09:33 {Demo}: maybe you just haven't overeaten to enough of an extreme? 🤔 09:34 <{Demo}> any adventurer healthy enough to run around the dungeon all day is healthy enough to be able to throw up when they eat too muc 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 538 points, T:1510, killed by a nearly deceased dingo 09:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2436 points, T:4356, killed by a wounded soldier ant, while fainted from lack of food 09:36 ^trying to get a safe distance away from soldier ant before risking the food. 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:1178 09:37 <{Demo}> damn lol 09:37 You kill the newt! You see here a newt corpse. There is a newt corpse here; eat it? [ynq] Blecch! Rotten food! 09:38 ok y'all, gonna attempt another run or five 09:38 it was the next turn. Why does tis happen? 09:38 * aoei can splat pretty efficiently when attempting to realtime speedrun lol 09:38 I turned of Beholder reporting to avoid spamming teh channel lol 09:40 Tangles: very misleading to new players too, since there's also the tainted food mechanic; at least I was like "oh apparently corpses can just randomly be bad" when I first started playing 09:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1174 09:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Sam Hlf Mal Law) was given the Yoichi no yumi, on T:12560 09:43 <{Demo}> uhh that's my crowning gift but ok 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:43904 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1273 09:49 You hear the howling of the CwnAnnwn... You die... 09:49 sigh 09:49 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2049 points, T:752, killed by an uninjured killer bee 09:50 Who is Yoichi? 09:50 dead 09:50 <{Demo}> its the noise monsters make when u shoot then with a ya 09:50 A Mary Sue invented by Rand to give justification to her insane political philosophy. 09:50 elvenking zapped me three times with a wand of cold, so i definitely coulda ran away 09:50 ... no, wait, that's John Galt, my bad 09:50 but i was foolish and thought maybe i could kill them lol 09:50 Is that supposed to be Nasu no Yoichi I guess? 09:51 heh, in the upcoming new slex version, a certain character class will be penalized for hearing the howling of the CwnAnnwn too many times :P 09:51 I would think Minamoto no Tametomo would be a lot more well-known for a nethack reference 09:51 <{Demo}> idk to me all japanese translates to whatever it onamonapia-cly sounds like it means 09:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4364 09:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1982 09:52 <{Demo}> and Yoichi sounds like a noise monsters make when they get shot 09:52 no yumi is just "the bow of", that is the bow of Yoichi 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed asus' ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:1639 09:52 !lastgame asus 09:52 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/asus/nethack/dumplog/1609055028.nh.html 09:53 That's an odd one, there's no suggestion his _bow_ was special, is there? 09:54 <{Demo}> that must mean "the bow of ouch i got shot" 09:54 Correct, he just shot a fan from horseback 09:54 Japan is not rife with magical brickabrack 09:54 "Congratulations, you have the bow of someone who practiced a shitload and also got lucky. It turns out this doesn't make you a better archer. Sorry!" 09:54 Even the motherfucking lawnmower is just a sword (loose translation of Kusanagi no Tsurugi) 09:55 <{Demo}> the real value in me getting it from sac is now when i get crowned i can unlock expert slots in something of my choice 09:55 <{Demo}> i am wielding "Kiku-ichimonji" idk what that means 09:55 <{Demo}> "shitty weapon that will end up offhand later" 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1802 09:55 "Kick you, itchy money" 09:56 <{Demo}> ohhhh 09:56 <{Demo}> would make more sense if it was a two hander 09:56 It's obviously some sort of boots and you shouldn't be wielding it at all 09:56 <{Demo}> and i offhanded martial arts 09:56 It is just a katana 09:56 Made by a particular school of swordsmiths 09:56 They're boots with gold detection built in. 09:57 I read this as "a particular school of sysadmins" for some reason and was "wtf" 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2489 points, T:2626, killed by a slightly wounded wolf, while sleeping 09:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:6388 09:59 Yes, the 13 sysadmins at the emperor's court in the 13th century 10:01 Each with their own kiku-KONPYUUTAA 10:01 <{Demo}> well this one is like a slightly better snickersnee from vanilla 10:01 <{Demo}> but can be used offhand 10:02 Even though it isn't its proper etymology I prefer to believe snickersnee originated in the Mikado 10:03 or sunikkaa-sunii as it were 10:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 4814 points, T:6744, killed by a wounded soldier ant, while praying 10:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Sam Hlf Mal Law) was given the Atma Weapon, on T:16602 10:04 Oh, I get it, nethack is using Final Fantasy as source material, not Japanese history and mythology :-( 10:04 Booo 10:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) was given Magicbane, on T:5289 10:04 Nah, NetHack samurai are samurai cinema samurai 10:05 Youjinbou! 10:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Sam Hlf Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:17538 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2909 10:15 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1456 points, T:1775, killed by a magic missile 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:11572 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6510 points, T:3370, killed by an uninjured jaguar, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:37850 10:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1331 10:45 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:61070 10:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:380 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 860 points, T:2124, killed by an uninjured water demon 10:47 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 10:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1813 10:54 <@nabru> !booze 10:54 * Beholder pours @nabru a barrel of booze, acquired by NotTheOracle\dnt at 14 degrees Celsius. 10:56 nabru dies of alcohol poisoning 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] bobjohnred (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 536 points, T:1016, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:57 "You drink the barrel of booze. You die of alcohol poisoning. DYWYPI?" 10:58 <{Demo}> what button do i press to let someone take over my game and do soko 2a for me? 10:58 <{Demo}> who do i pay for their "premium soko solving services" 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of snow boots named cursed on an altar, on T:3637 11:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 33596 points, T:9791, killed by an ice vortex 11:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:10082 11:05 Alright, 14 chances at sleazing a dirty wish from these potions... 11:06 Darn 11:06 I detected the shit out of those monsters, tho 11:06 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:61766 11:07 I'll do it for you if you bring back brevishack Demo 11:08 <{Demo}> brevishack needs a lot more work 11:08 can't improve on perfection 11:08 <{Demo}> and im busy trying to rekindle the flames of ndnh 11:08 <{Demo}> and try to get ndnh2 progress rolling 11:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Curate, on T:10594 11:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5117 11:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:5117 11:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:5304 11:16 nice, got to castle within 10 min and 2k turns 11:16 i mean, i then proceeded to splat 11:16 but still 11:16 nice 11:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3367 11:16 was averaging like 4 kps for a while but i slowed down when i hit titan level 11:16 luckily i had fire wand to engrave E or i mighta splatted there instead of slightly later at castle XD 11:17 at the end i got 3.4 kps or something 11:17 anyway gotta keep trying :> 11:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Sam Hlf Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:23150 11:20 <{Demo}> yey, got bag soko 11:20 gz 11:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1296 11:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:1806 11:28 {Demo}: PogChamp 11:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 7145 points, T:6589, killed by a bolt of fire 11:33 <@p0werm0de> :berserk: 11:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:10860 11:35 <@nabru> !lastgame p0werm0de 11:35 @nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/p0werm0de/nethack/dumplog/1609083812.nh.html 11:37 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 11:39 "You hear a horn being played nearby." 11:39 note that fire horns do more damage than wands of fire 11:40 -!- joes_ has left #hardfought 11:41 <@p0werm0de> yea it also shot twice without me acting in between 11:42 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:42 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest32902 11:42 -!- Guest32902 has quit [Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:42 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:42 <@p0werm0de> and maybe reflect of wall 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:46961 11:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 9172 points, T:6546, killed by a giant cockroach 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest17820 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 14299 points, T:3985, killed by a gargoyle 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest89821 11:43 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:12702 11:45 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:45 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest49098 11:45 -!- Guest49098 has quit [Killed (rothfuss.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:45 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:46 -!- Guest17820 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:46 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 11:47 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined 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Demo (Sam Hlf Mal Law) killed the invisible Ashikaga Takauji, on T:28369 12:07 :o 12:07 gogogo elenmirie_ 12:07 castle? 12:08 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 12:08 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 12:08 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:298 12:10 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "historic holy very thoroughly poisoned fixed fireproof rustproof +7 crystal pick named i dig doug", on T:62371 12:11 <{Demo}> man i did a really trashy Ashikaga Takauji assassination 12:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 12:11 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (kornbluth.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 12:11 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 12:11 orly 12:11 <{Demo}> zapped him with a wand of sleeping til i got past his monster mr and wailed on him for way too many turns 12:12 ooooo 12:12 that's dicey lol 12:12 <{Demo}> had an aols and cursed tele scroll 12:12 <{Demo}> he landed 0 hits on me 12:12 <{Demo}> got lucky with the sleep 12:15 wand of sleep more like wand of paralysis :P 12:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 778 points, T:548, killed by a gnome 12:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:12241 12:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:12246 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 580 points, T:978, killed by a slightly wounded hill orc 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2713 12:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:25424 12:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:12459 12:24 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 12:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1771 12:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Canoness, on T:12516 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a gnome lord corpse on an altar of Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3193 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:4346 12:32 !who 12:32 misha: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] arctrect [nh370] brandon [nh370] Karnac [nh370] hothraxxa [un] malor [dnh] elron [dnh] Demo [dnh] Heliokopis [dnh] | [hdf-eu] aoei [nh370] elenmirie [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 12:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:13294 12:36 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided arch-liches dungeon wide on T:62384 12:36 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided master liches dungeon wide on T:62384 12:37 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers dungeon wide on T:62385 12:37 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:38 -!- qt has quit 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[nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5374 13:03 [hdf-eu] [slex] Ulf (AmyBSOD) (Ast Hrl Mal Neu) wished for "+3 bgfi electric sword", on T:46139 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5748 13:05 <{Demo}> what's going on here amy 13:05 well uhh I got the wand of wishing on the castle and wished for some stuff? 13:07 of course the electric sword came out +0 13:07 the only item that became +3 was the helmet 13:08 sadly, that helmet has "strip bandana" as its randomized appearance, making it so that it doesn't protect me from mind flayer tentacles 13:10 strip banana 13:10 food monster with seduction attacks 13:11 thanks :) will implement 13:12 also, potential slex players scanning my wishes: don't try the helm of counter rotation at home :P it shifts all directional input 90 degrees counterclockwise 13:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:17956 13:12 <{Demo}> whyd u do it 13:12 because it's 10 points of AC and 6 points of MC; this char just reeeeeeeeeally needs some defense and I'm willing to suffer through interface screws to get it 13:12 @Luxidream i think sub-5k might be just about doable without early WoW 13:13 2-4k im not so sure 13:13 <@luxidream> maybe 13:13 <@luxidream> needs some luck though 13:13 yeah definitely 13:13 but you always need some lujck 13:13 decent shops 13:13 <@luxidream> idk what maud's fastest wowless is 13:13 me neither 13:13 i could try and check the old records i guess 13:13 but it's all 343 13:13 anyway 13:13 <@luxidream> rt is much more forgiving about wowless 13:13 so doesn't translate well anyway 13:14 i saw you had some quite fast wishless rt runs lol 13:14 <@luxidream> 2:15 isn't that fast 13:14 like 1h 15min i think one of them was 13:14 oh was it 2:15 13:14 ok not fast for you maybe 13:14 to me wishless 2:15 is fast :P 13:14 Status of the hellish lich (chaotic): Level 20 HP 20(62) Pw 143(143) AC -5. 13:14 <@luxidream> 1:12 is my best wowless I think 13:14 that's... oddly low health for a level 20 monster lol 13:14 <@luxidream> adeon has 1:07 wowless 13:14 ;o 13:14 that's also 343 tho i guess 13:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:38127 13:15 poggers tho 13:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law), 54139 points, T:18049, killed by an owlbear, while praying 13:16 trouble with early wow minturns is 13:16 wowscumming is horribly tedious 13:16 <@luxidream> maybe try one thing at a time 13:16 most of my successful minturn games i just scummed for a polykit and dug to the castle with a mines pick 13:16 [hdf-eu] [slex] Ulf (AmyBSOD) (Ast Hrl Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:46300 13:16 sling skill up get! TROPHY GET! 13:16 <@luxidream> you might get a good gametime going and die to a cockatrice or something 13:16 meh 13:16 who cares 13:16 i can do it again 13:17 its all practice 13:17 in some ways im more comfortable playing faster with a playstyle i actually know, too 13:17 tho i might try some other wizard strats that are more realtime focused at some point 13:19 plus, for a serious minturn run i would try to wowscum for it 13:19 and do more explore mode practice runs beforehand too 13:20 <@luxidream> yeah wowscumming sucks 13:20 <@luxidream> there's a reason I only have 2 good runs with wow >.< 13:20 lol right 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:2261 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2266 13:22 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Hum Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1009 13:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Dro Mal Neu), 1207 points, T:1060, killed by a dwarf 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1613 13:26 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 13:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Dro Mal Neu), 571 points, T:581, killed by a gnome 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4594 points, T:3101, killed by a wounded black unicorn 13:29 i still have my secret weapon for that 13:29 but i no longer feel so comfy about using it :/ 13:30 * tinklebear thinks the helm of counter rotation sounds less like an interface screw and more like permadizziness 13:30 the helm of what now 13:30 heh, I'm getting used to it 13:30 well, not perma, cause you can take it off 13:30 it sounds pretty awesome! 13:30 it autocurses when put on :P but thankfully I have lots of remove curse in case I do need to take it off 13:30 lol 13:30 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:32 the bigger problem is that I'm also afflicted with the choicelessness nastytrap, which has 80% or so chance that a direction prompt (e.g. for directional wands/spells or using ranged weapons) doesn't appear and the effect instead goes in a random direction 13:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 97 points, T:765, killed by a slightly wounded water demon 13:32 80% is harsh! is it only due to your current location? 13:33 nah it happened because some light with a nastytrap explosion attack got me 13:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Pir Dro Mal Neu), 814 points, T:755, killed by a small crossbow bolt 13:34 choicelessness reminds me of that Chesty Puller quote 13:35 * tinklebear looks for the quote 13:35 "We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3255 13:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 254 points, T:1064, killed by a barely wounded gnome lord 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 516 points, T:851, killed by a dwarvish spear 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:3425 13:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 65 points, T:266, killed by an uninjured water demon 13:40 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1598 13:41 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:41 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9866 13:42 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 13:42 You dodge a crossbow bolt with your electric cigarette (597). 13:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3002 13:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:32486 13:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3070 13:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 480 points, T:1389, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 13:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:9, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 13:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:13901 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by an uninjured small mimic), on T:2547 13:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:13912 13:47 this shop is like 50% mimics :( 13:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:13925 13:48 amateurhour: what was the reason you don't go the deep mines again? my char is finding tons of ranged weapon ammo in there 13:49 is it because sorting through all the loot takes so long? 13:50 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 13:51 it's because it's very dangerous and the final reward screws you over 13:51 well I can uncurse the stone if I get it 13:51 until it curses itself again 13:51 got dozens of remove curse scrolls, at some point the game was showering me with them 13:51 which it does on a relatively short timescale 13:51 plus a wand of remove curse 13:52 I just feel like the end reward shouldn't autocurse (but the wished one should maybe idk) 13:53 nah the autocursing part works as intended, it would be way too strong otherwise 13:53 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:70685 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:70687 13:53 also, amateurhour, I guess you're gonna absolutely hate the reward for defeating Lord Stahngnir in the upcoming slex 2.70 :D 13:54 so for me it's not worth the risk, every time I've tried the deep mines I've been ganked 13:54 even if I then got it it'd autocurse and give me 2x damage from all sources 13:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 712 points, T:1931, killed by a centipede 13:54 so that's why in my head it's just not worth trying it 13:55 heh, for my current char it's especially worth doing because every time I get a trophy, a random skill's cap may be increased by one level 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Misha (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4298 points, T:3506, killed by a bolt of fire 13:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Nell's ghost, the former Footpad, on T:4509 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2083 13:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4676 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3884 13:59 Your electric cigarette (516) cuts the war troll's iron chain in half! 13:59 good riddance :P 13:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:14160 13:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:14162 14:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1774 14:04 man I can't stop giggling every time my e-cigarette destroys an enemy's weapon, because I always imagine it making a metallic "Schrtsch!" sound :P 14:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1343 points, T:1972, killed by an uninjured manes, while praying 14:07 !rng cook | code | castle 14:07 aoei: cook 14:07 thanks Beholder 14:08 You kill the male girl teacher! Welcome to experience level 17. 14:08 You feel more comfortable in your skills. 14:08 man, I was beginning to expect this char to never level up again 14:12 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:63905 14:15 K2 I saw your message, I'm here 14:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 991 points, T:2986, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 14:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed bobjohnred's ghost, the former Novice, on T:6519 14:26 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:64456 14:29 hiya tjw 14:29 just read your email 14:29 oh good 14:29 ugh... brb 14:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:35350 14:31 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:64561 14:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:38467 14:33 tjw i sent you a private message 14:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby purple worm, on T:8824 14:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:38552 14:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1437 14:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1661 14:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:36360 14:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 62 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:14657 14:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 19861 points, T:6595, killed by a discharging wand 14:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 376 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:14940 14:49 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:65129 14:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:3935 14:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Misha's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:8529 14:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 5100 points, T:4954, killed by a wounded stone golem 14:57 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 13980 points, T:12506, killed by a wounded troll 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Daimyo, on T:21124 15:02 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:582 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 9090 points, T:7970, killed by an ettin mummy 15:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 1018 points, T:758, quit 15:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:38873 15:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9012 15:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed wand of death", on T:15137 15:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1552 points, T:1562, killed by a dwarf 15:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 516 points, T:578, killed by a dwarf 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17223 15:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11135 15:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3175 15:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", on T:15986 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3427 15:31 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:16016 15:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11235 15:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:16100 15:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:16155 15:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:16162 15:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1236 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kuge, on T:21316 15:40 -!- Kontroll1r has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 411 points, T:1727, killed by a wounded small mimic 15:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:16209 15:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 7 points, T:122, killed by an uninjured fox 15:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:5, killed by a water moccasin 15:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1113268 points, T:16217, ascended 15:44 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/nethack/dumplog/1609069677.nh.html 15:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 56 points, T:247, killed by a nearly deceased sewer rat 15:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:12910 15:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 955 points, T:934, killed by a nearly deceased gnome 15:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:39175 15:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:920 15:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 2274 points, T:1252, killed by a dwarf 16:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:14267 16:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 8 points, T:243, killed by a grid bug 16:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3328 16:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 258 points, T:178, killed by shredding of the soul 16:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4686 16:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:11550 16:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5444 16:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 8535 points, T:6921, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 16:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12174 16:24 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 16:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Cha), 2799 points, T:1185, killed by a small dagger 16:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5926 16:32 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided demiliches dungeon wide on T:33532 16:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1912 16:37 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided master liches dungeon wide on T:33637 16:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:17151 16:59 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 17:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:18671 17:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:14661 17:19 anyone know on the top of their head what setting I need to mess with to change the player symbol when invisible? somehow I seem to have it set to the exact same as lit corridor, making navigating a bit of a pain :) 17:20 oh and I use curses. 17:22 that would be a cursor setting (how you configure your terminal), not a nethack setting 17:23 YANI: option to render the player's character even when they're invisible 17:25 ah right, that explains why I didn't recognize the behaviour, normally use alcritty, acidentally ran nethack from gterm it seems :D thanks! 17:25 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:22096 17:32 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 238 points, T:603, killed by a wounded small mimic 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) murdered el Gordo, his faithful cauchemar, on T:19515 17:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 1187 points, T:2605, burned by molten lava 17:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40263 17:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:40264 17:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a barely wounded blue jelly), on T:18658 17:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 622 points, T:2312, killed by an uninjured sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:42 -!- aoei_ has joined #hardfought 17:43 -!- dtype has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:43 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Gia Fem Law), 1612 points, T:2457, killed by a water moccasin 17:44 -!- aoei_ is now known as aoei 17:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:46383 17:45 -!- dtype has joined #hardfought 17:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:10145 17:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7749 17:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6177 17:49 * arahael once again wonders which of the three categories to choose in soko. 17:50 Leaning towards the " pile in evil-soko because of the potential for reflection, which will be especially good as a monk. 17:51 let rngesus take the wheel 17:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 926 points, T:3203, killed by an uninjured bat, while sleeping 17:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:19690 17:53 amateurhour: The RNG is too terrible to leave for chance. 17:53 !rng armour | tool | amulet 17:53 amateurhour: tool 17:54 until k2 nerfed npcs having them my motto was "never take the bag" 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2909 17:55 whcih meant no marker it that's what it was 17:56 Yeah, the marker is a temptation, I loooove markers, and they're especially rare in evil, and although I do need the bag it's not worth soko for the bag, so I'm thinking not getting that option, which means no marker. 17:57 well just tell yourself if it's a bag there's no marker anyway 17:57 not nerfed... fixed 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3019 17:57 plus there's the bag at the end of the ice queen's branch 17:57 what are the odds of a boh now, k2? 17:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 257 points, T:1266, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 17:57 25% from npc 17:57 so that's ok then 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3027 17:58 Yeah, I don't want a bag from soko. Hmm, ice queen? That's new to me too! 17:58 * arahael goes for ", once he completes soko. 17:59 *sigh*, peacefuls are annoying. 17:59 my last two soko zoos in unnh had no amulet left 18:01 hothraxxa: Nothing at all? 18:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:10358 18:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1665 18:04 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:04 Literate by *naming* something? What are they doing, actually printing out a label? 18:05 Inscribing the name on the object in some way 18:05 Also hi 18:06 Hey again! 18:06 arahael: in unnh the amulet can be life-saving. what happens is a monster picks it up and puts it on 18:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:06 I'm still pre-coffee, currently sipping it. 18:07 hothraxxa: Ah, makes sense. Frustrating. 18:07 when i see bhaak again i shall make a stern complaint 18:07 actually not so bad for me, i almost never wear lifesaving so i would probably not use it anyway 18:08 in unnh you can open the doors and see what you're getting. i would probably not take lifesaving 18:09 Ah, nice. In evil, once you open the doors, that's it, I think. 18:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2378 18:09 And there's no way to actually know what you get unless you open the door. 18:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3756 18:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:2592 18:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3964 18:12 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 18:13 Fucking Win10 18:13 arahael: I got this too late to really process but object detection can give you the object type 18:13 Umbire_: Indeed, already used that. 18:14 ...unless there's an orc on top of it with stuff in their invent 18:14 I don't think they can open the doors in this version... can they? 18:14 They can 18:14 they can spawn in there due to a quirk of monster generation 18:14 ^ 18:14 But even if they do once you pick your prize tool the others magically disappear regardless 18:14 could be solved by putting mimics on top of the prizes :) 18:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:15 Umbire_: Lovely. 18:15 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 18:15 amateurhour: Blessed object detection would sus them out, I'd think 18:16 what do you mean? 18:16 I used blessed obj detection. 18:16 Only gives you the type. 18:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:8378 18:18 Ah, MR. Well, that's at least useful. 18:19 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 18:19 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:20844 18:20 amateurhour: I mean that blessed (or rather non-cursed) potions of object detection won't show mimics 18:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:7210 18:20 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 18:23 oh, yeah 18:24 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 18:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) was given Werebane, on T:3221 18:25 -!- Umbire__ has joined #hardfought 18:26 fucking FUCK man 18:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:27 -!- Umbire__ is now known as Umbire 18:27 What happened? 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4365 18:28 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:40650 18:28 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:29 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 18:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:9336 18:30 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 18:31 -!- Umbire__ has joined #hardfought 18:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:34 -!- Umbire_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:36 -!- Umbire__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) became the Glory of Chardros, on T:49027 18:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 10244 points, T:10159, killed by a heavily wounded watchman, while praying 18:40 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:40 Alright, let's leave just this open, see if it holds... 18:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:9735 18:48 Finally. The only means I had of killing that, was to wait ~7k turns until I had blessed *darts*. 18:48 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 18:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:48 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 18:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law), 21560 points, T:5374, killed by a small crossbow bolt 18:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:10034 18:53 <@malor> !lastgame malor 18:53 @malor: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1609094570.dnh.txt 19:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 10 points, T:402, killed by an uninjured jackal 19:02 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: spontiff] 19:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:888 19:04 How come I can't type-name my silver gauntlets as "gauntlets#1"? 19:06 are they formally identified in your Discoveries list? 19:07 Seems like they are, the corresponding entry seems to be: "gauntlets called gauntlets#1 (boxing gloves)" 19:07 So I guess they're all just regular, non-magical gauntlets, aka boring old gloves? 19:08 yeah, guess so 19:08 once an item gets its type formally identified, then your custom term doesn't get displayed 19:08 I guess I probably might as well check in the wooden gauntlets, silver gauntlets, and iron gauntlets back into the poly piles. 19:08 * tinklebear doesn't really like this, but figures it might cut down on confusion 19:08 Hi bear 19:08 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:44172 19:09 Hullo, Umbire 19:09 Umby 19:09 tinkle 19:09 aoei cant sleep, wat do 19:10 I have that problem a lot, and am afraid I do not have any good answers. 19:10 Ah, in the wiki: Gauntlets – just regular iron-based gloves (known as 'tekko' if playing as a Samurai). (for evilhack) 19:10 oh i had an idea actually 19:10 i could read my haskell book 19:10 splat more elf wizards? 19:10 or that 19:10 that might put me to sleep 19:10 you could do that 19:10 lol Umby i thought about playing nh earlier 19:11 but then i figured that'll only release norepinephrine and make it even harder to sleep 19:11 aoei: I find that avoiding blue light, having a nice covering, and - paradoxically - ensuring that the temperature has *cooled* - apparently the magic point is having the room cool by 10C. 19:11 arahael: yeah i normally open the window before bed 19:11 but i did it a bit lat 19:11 Evilhack Q: Giants can't be engulfed. Poly xorn, now presumably a sea dragon can engulf me. Suffocate death -- revert to giant and belched out? One hopes? 19:11 late* 19:11 opened it again just now 19:12 Nice. Stress doesn't help though - whatever destresses you can also be good. 19:12 idk 19:12 maybe a snack? 19:12 red wine? ;) 19:12 alcohol is really bad for sleep lol 19:13 (Alchol does NOT help, but apparently red wine does) 19:13 that also seems paradoxical 19:13 Just in moderation. 19:13 Gonna play Evil in a bit 19:13 i understood any alcohol in your system when you go to bed reduces sleep quality drastically 19:14 my experience bears that out... 19:14 Yeah, but apparently the melatonin-like substance red wine has can apparently help you get to sleep fast, though, honestly, it does feel more like an excuse to say "Miss, this be medication, just let me drink and relax and I'll join you shortly, my dear!" 19:15 which is annoying because usually if im gonna have alcohol its in the evening 19:15 despite the known problem of it ruining sleep quality 19:16 krm26: your logic sounds... logical to me. 19:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1185 points, T:2929, killed by an uninjured water demon 19:17 krm26: er, except that I seem to remember something about death by HP reduction is the way to revert... 19:17 ...and I doubt suffocation is HP reduction 19:18 Dying while polymorphed in general is how you revert 19:18 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:18 HP loss is just the "easiest" way 19:18 okay, Umbire. zap wand of death at yourself next time, see what happens 19:18 * Umbire goes to wiztest 19:18 :B 19:18 krm26: You're poly'ed? I've learnt the hard way that suffocation does not work. 19:18 learn a valuable lesson 19:19 Seriously, though, wiztesting on a local version is a good way to check 19:20 <@luxidream> if you're killed by something that isn't hp reduction, you just die 19:21 yeah i just wiztested it too, death ray kills you outright 19:21 do your "testing" in a real game, and it's a lot harder to forget. F wiztesting 19:21 its only "oLS that can save you from multiple means of dying 19:22 Wizard Testing: At what cost! No cost! :D 19:22 tinklebear: lessons learnt the hard way to tend to stick harder 19:22 so no skin in game. it doesn't stick like the YASD does 19:22 however 19:22 Well yeah 19:22 that doesn't mean wiztesting isn't useful 19:22 to each their own, ofc 19:22 Can't stick if you don't give it a chance to 19:22 * Umbire taps forehead 19:23 also fwiw I have died multiple times to chocking on food while polymorphed, which is sorta like suffocation 19:24 It's a particular danger for mindflayer-morphed players 19:24 so many sad sad ways to go 19:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:24 Umbire: yeah exactly lol 19:25 one of my recent ones was "ooh! a wraith corpse *nom* ...wait fuck why did i do that" 19:25 i had the amulet already too 19:25 lol 19:25 Wafer-thin wraith 19:25 worth 0 nutrition but you still choke to death kek 19:26 Anyway... 19:27 Yeah, well, you can choke on a small coin, so... 19:27 Suffocation does not revert poly form? Good to know 19:27 I de-veganed my monk with muscle memory eating a wraith corpse 19:27 Felt soooo stupid 19:28 FUCK 19:28 Umbire: Eh? 19:28 keep generating zombies 19:28 dont you have to recognise what the corpse is to know its a wraith and worth eating for xp does that still count as muscle-memory? 🤔 19:28 At least they're just weak kobolds but ugh 19:29 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "very historic very uncursed extinguished unlit burnt thoroughly magic marker named a distinguished writing implement for the discerning scroll writer", on T:66210 19:29 That's still more bodies to put in the box 19:29 Kobold zombies fit nicely in boxes 19:29 skipping some extra critical evaluation step yes 19:29 Hi hothraxxa 19:29 muscle memory im not sos ure 19:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:29 aloha 19:29 Hello hothraxxa, Welcome to #hardfought 19:30 First can of grease, as satisfying as a wand of wishing 19:30 It is going in every nook and cranny, mmm 19:31 THis is... Odd... The shopkeeper is giong to *stand aside* and let me simply leave the shop? 19:31 just walk out, consequence free 19:31 :) 19:31 * arahael tries... Just that... So freaking weird... 19:31 i had that happen once. i did not leave 19:31 > "Arahael! Please pay before leaving." 19:32 just walk out :) see what happens :) 19:32 :^) 19:32 Well, the odd thing was I was actually intending to steal, a bit risky as I don't have reflection, but... 19:33 I was considering teleporting the shopkeeper, but if this works... *shrug*... 19:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) stole 2810 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ardjawinangun's delicatessen, on T:11110 19:33 if you have a scroll of taming read it when they're next to you, after you leave the shop 19:33 Yeah, if you're lucky you might be able to get the shopkeep away from the door while exiting 19:33 alright I just finished adding 157 new slex monsters including suggestions and ideas by amateurhour, aosdict, bug_sniper, Demo, jonadab, spicycat and many others. enjoy: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/ea74b74f - need to reeeeeally go to sleep now though. see you tomorrow guys <3 19:33 Umbire: Usually shopkeepers agressively guard the door. 19:33 sleep well 19:33 *Usually* being the key word 19:34 This is that 1 in 10 basically 19:34 Ok, the shopkeeper's wand turned out to be sleep, so just walked back in and killed it. 19:34 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:34 It's also contingent on you having enough speed, me thinks 19:34 thx amateurhour! :) 19:34 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 19:34 Umbire: Ah, interesting. 19:35 Alright, so that's all my sacrificing done 19:35 Now to box these zombie corpses 19:35 I saw my nightstallions 19:35 arahael: lmao, nice 19:35 it bounced back and hit them, but you're sleep resistant right 19:36 aoei: It didn't bounce back - no reflection - but I'm indeed sleep resistant. 19:36 And the shopkeeper was just a gnome, so easy kill. 19:36 oh ok 19:36 if you had a wall behind you it coulda still bounced back at the shkj 19:36 even without you having reflection 19:36 not sure their AI is smart enough to protect them from this 19:37 It's not. 19:37 But I was just out of the doorway. 19:38 if they didn't use up too many zaps 19:38 then you now have a sleep wand you can use to kill additional shks with :) 19:40 Oh, that's a great idea... 19:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 98898 points, T:19377, killed by a dreadblossom swarm, while praying 19:40 helps if you also have MR tho cuz they may have striking wands 19:41 and they can resist the sleep ray 19:41 Ooh, an extra 4 units of AC from the first purchased protection. 19:41 bounce it off a wall if you can, for better chance of succeess 19:41 Yeah, and I have MR. 19:41 nice 19:41 From soko amulet. :) 19:41 in vanilla they have 50 monMR 19:41 so even if the sleep ray hits its a 50/50 chance of working 19:42 Ah, I see, I guess that dpeends more on the monster type than the job position? 19:42 hm 19:42 i would say no 19:42 but i cant be sure how it works in evil tbh 19:42 still, my guess would be they all have shk-level monMR 19:42 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45936 19:43 otherwise they'd all have shit monMR 19:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 257 points, T:617, killed by a wand, while fainted from lack of food 19:43 most shk base races have bad monMR 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:49737 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide elven helm of drain resistance", on T:49737 19:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 268 points, T:781, killed by a kobold zombie 19:47 or put another way... if K2 *has* done anything to shk monMR (related to race or anything else), i would guess its buffed and not nerfed 19:49 Well, zapping the gnome shopkeeper was positively trivial. 19:49 i thought you just punched that one 19:49 and took its wand after killing it 19:49 welp, zombie on this shop's floor 19:50 I don't plan on robbing them but mm... 19:50 really hope they don't get zombied 19:50 Zombied shopkeepers are the best 19:50 Once you've gotten all your price IDing out of the way of course 19:51 aoei: Second gnome shopkeeper. :) 19:51 orite 19:51 nice 19:51 lol 19:52 Got rather hectic as the moment I was done I then had to deal with a swarm of solders and grey-elfs that decided to generate, but all-in-all, not too bad. 19:52 arahael: Eloquent Javascript, Haskell Programming from first principles, Hackers Delight, or LYAH? 19:52 aoei: My coworkers love LYAH, but I just couldn't get past the crappy, crappy, crappy grammar. :( 19:52 LOL same 19:53 i hate it already just from the title 19:53 you program in haskell as part of your job? 19:53 It's otherwise a very good introduction to haskell. 19:53 i've heard it's also a crap learning resource 19:53 amateurhour: No. :( But we dabble. :D 19:53 amateurhour: Eg, we have a slackbot done in haskell, at work. 19:53 nice 19:53 no exercises, very few code examples etc. 19:54 Haskell Programming from first principles is supposed to be better 19:54 i wish package management wasn't so ass 19:54 I only included LYAH as a trap 19:54 a trick answer option 19:54 amateurhour: In Haskell? It's pretty reasonable, imho. 19:54 like say you want to include idk yampa or something and you're using stack 19:54 pacman manages loads of haskell packages for me 19:54 aoei: Yeah, it's only an *introduction*. 19:55 it's like 'manually add this thing to that yaml file' 19:55 amateurhour: imho, cabal itself is almost just as good as stack now. 19:55 idk why but i have loads as deps for *something* 19:55 then stack is like 'ah but it's not in this snapshot, add it as extra-deps in another file' 19:55 so you do that then it's like 19:55 yeah i'd heard cabal was suppose to be good 19:55 apparently rust's cargo borrows heavily from cabal 19:55 there is no cabal 19:55 'oh that package actually needs an older `base` than you're on for no reason` 19:55 oops sorry, knee-jerk reaction 19:55 nothing to see here 19:56 "Eloquent Javascript" ? 19:56 Thank God the Perl I learned in '97 still works 19:56 amateurhour: The quality of many of hte haskell packages is a bit problematic, haskell does suffer from it's academic bent - lots of people try and experiment, and then of course they contribute as a package, etc. Still, the academic bent has other advantages so a bit of a wash, imho. 19:57 hothraxxa: Heyo! 19:57 Did you see my ascension post and the figurine I named? 19:57 I don't mind that aspect at all, it's managing packages that's ass 19:57 not tried the new-style cabal though, maybe that's a nicer experience 19:57 amateurhour: That said... you shouldn't blindly trust whatever package regardless of the language. Javascript's especially problematic there as the ecosystem and user base just blindly accepte whatever garbage. 19:58 amateurhour: Ah, and yeah - new-style cabal is nice. 19:58 I still use stack, though. 19:58 Pinkbeast: lol 19:58 its just a book title 19:58 yeah but at least it's just an npm install away, not editing 3 files and downgrading your ghc and base versions 19:58 stack blows 19:58 whether or not there is actually such a thing as javascript that is written eloquently 19:58 that's another question 19:59 Javascript shouldn't be discussed in the same conversation with Haskell 19:59 why 19:59 amateurhour: That does ask the question: Why does the package need you to downgrade ghc? That seems suspect. 20:00 amateurhour: Maybe the package you were trying to use is not good? 20:00 krm26: i mean, it's all context 20:00 to keep base in sync 20:00 JS and Haskell are both programming languages I'm interested in learning 20:00 amateurhour: Let me rephrase... Why does it need an older base? That seems suspect! :D 20:01 thus relevant to the question of what programming book should i read next 20:01 it's not like I was trying to use some crapola package, I was experimenting with Yampa 20:01 aoei: JS is probably a better choice for finding jobs. 20:01 amateurhour: Ah. 20:01 and other FRP libraries and all of them seem to hardcode base versions in their deps for some unholy reasons 20:01 arahael: indeed 20:01 arahael: that's why im interested in learning it... 20:01 amateurhour: Imho, those are all... Experiments. 20:01 that's the ONLY reason i'm interested in learning it XD 20:02 aoei: Typescript can be regarded as a decent superset of JS, which will lesson the pain of JS. 20:02 arahael: yeah but what would i use in a job 20:02 regular JS most likely i would assume? 20:02 and with typescript you don't necessarily need to derp around with webpack and babel yourself (they are the literal devil) 20:02 aoei: It really depends, but I think you'd likely be allowed to use TS, it depends on whether the team permits the concept of having a build step. 20:03 aoei: Plus it might make you sound smart. ;) 20:03 Haskell interest is more "oh hey let's learn some hardcore FP/gain insight into where some cool features of Rust came from" 20:03 :) 20:03 arahael: yeah i guess, will definitely keep in mind TS. 20:03 There's also purescript, but you're unlikely to be able to use that at work. 20:08 actually this book on JS seems nicely written (or at least the intro is nicely written) 20:08 AC:-16 is very impressive, I think, without any DSM, dragonhide, enchant armour scrolls, body armour, or even shields. 20:09 * Umbire looks at his -27 dragon-hide-and-scale-wearing valk 20:09 ...that could be way higher 20:09 in vanilla -16 AC is just about enough to ascend 20:09 If you have to do Javascript work do yourself a favor and use a vindictive ES6 linter 20:09 assuming you have conflict, a scary horn and a few tele wands 20:09 in evil its possibly enough 20:10 aoei: I'd read that one, then. Incidentially, for various reasons, if a scripting language is needed, especially for embedding purposes, I tend to recommend JavaScript these days. It's just got too many advantages now. 20:10 aoei: So it'll become another useful tool. 20:10 JS is huge these days 20:10 i doubt it's going anywhere anytime soon 20:10 Right. 20:10 if you can't beat 'em, join 'em 20:10 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 20:10 aoei: Also, especially at work, if you ever have to manage multiple versions of nodejs, use the 'n' package (npm install -g n) 20:11 ok 20:11 aoei: You could realistically ascend with a bit less than that imo 20:11 Umbire: No, you don't want to *ascend* with node. Leave that for haskell. 20:11 Umbire: lux ascended vanilla with AC:0 lol 20:11 in that crazy sub 1h game 20:12 Case in point :y 20:12 but anything > -15 is a bit dodgy imo 20:12 -15 is nice 20:12 < -15 is luxury 20:12 I got a leather tshirt, too. 20:12 with evil you need more AC tho i think? 20:12 idk i never ascended evil 20:13 Umbire: tbf tho if he was in elven form when he ascended - showing AC:0 in the dumplog - he would have had -10 for a lot of it while in mmf form 20:14 which isn't quite as insane 20:14 o 20:14 Still counts, it's above the -15 threshold :B 20:14 but still quite impressive 20:14 yeah :P 20:14 Umbire: I've ascended with -5 AC :v 20:14 (minotaur form) 20:15 so elven form woulda also been around 0 AC i guess 20:15 naisu 20:15 if i had depoly'd 20:15 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:15 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 20:15 * Umbire is currently trying to lure zombies into a hole 20:16 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/tnnt/dumplog/1605011175.tnnt.txt taht one -10 in mmf form 20:16 And there's a werewolf on the floor now 20:16 joy. 20:16 Umbire: I've just been eating them. :) 20:16 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/tnnt/dumplog/1604862256.tnnt.txt -5 AC 20:17 (Umbire: And then applying the unicorn-horn.) 20:17 burnt leather gloves and speed boots lmao 20:17 I'd rather not chance a unihorn failure streak ending my game 20:19 Umbire: I once had to take 4 attempts, actually to cure. But yeah, it's still a worry. 20:19 Yeah, not feeling chancy 20:19 the mino asc had -5 AC and 10 hp lol 20:20 altho if i depoly'd i woulda had 84 hp in natural form 20:20 What's the lowest HP ascension 20:20 * Umbire thinks 20:20 idk but check this out 20:20 https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/dumplog/SpeedyCat8/1603152590.nh366.txt 20:21 his polyform had 40/64 hp 20:21 but the scoreboard shows (if you look at https://nethackscoreboard.org/gametime.nh366.html) his natural elven form was on only 7/94 hp 20:21 Whew 20:21 94 seems doable. 20:21 yeah if he'd depoly'd he'd probably have died lol 20:22 anyway that's those zombies buried 20:22 The main concern is death. 20:22 94 maxhp doesn't help arahael 20:22 when you revert to natural form and still only have 7 hp 20:22 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:22 Oof. 20:22 i.e. if he'd reverted from mmf to natural form he woulda only had 7 hp in his natural form 20:22 your current hp is saved when you poly 20:22 and restored when you revert 20:22 Anyway, need to find a bag before I can finish the mines 20:22 unless you polyself to $race 20:23 i think that'll reset it 20:23 Polying should always maintain your percentage health and power 20:23 not sure what you mean krm26 20:23 50/100 hp poly into 100/200 hp 20:23 ah 20:24 should meaning, if you were designing the game, you'd do it like that? 20:24 Pw isn't affected at all by polyself 20:24 "Should" meaning THERE IS BUT ONE OPINION of course 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1736 points, T:2364, killed by an uninjured giant spider 20:24 current/max hp of natural form is saved when you poly into another monster and restored if you revert from hp loss or polyself timeout 20:25 holy crap 20:25 not only would he have had 7 current hp if he reverted before ascending 20:25 but he was carrying the the master key of thievery 20:25 which would have blasted him 20:25 'GAME OVER YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH' 20:25 Now THAT would be a cool death 20:25 so probably just reverting to natural form would have been enough to end that run 20:26 Boy howdy 20:26 i've died to that myself (tho not as far as astral= 20:26 good thing the polyform's AC was -34, then 20:26 yeah true 20:26 still, that's so dicey 20:27 pretty much like wearing an amulet of unchanging, yeah 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3724 20:28 Need to get to that tree fast, Sleip's getting feisty 20:28 except that, planning ahead, was wearing life saving instead 20:29 !tell LarienTelrunya: Surely you mean 157 million new monsters, right? Or at least 157 thousand? What would be the point of adding only 157? 20:29 jonadab: Message from Umbire at 2020-12-19 22:18 EST: Your EPI database is timing out 20:29 I'm on it, jonadab. 20:29 Hi jonadab 20:29 Hello. 20:29 Hello jonadab, Welcome to #hardfought 20:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (giants), on T:3790 20:31 So since evilhack denied me my own quest artifact let's see if it will cough up somebody else's 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4106 20:32 ugh, ettin zombie 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4168 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed platinum yendorian express card", on T:50150 20:33 Wands of digging starting to pile on in 20:35 krm26: Along with the owner? :D 20:36 Much to my surprise, I got it the first time, and it came for free 20:36 I almost don't know how to react 20:36 no master of thieves? 20:36 Sitting in the middle of my boulder fort in sokoban :-) 20:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 183 points, T:620, killed by an uninjured giant rat 20:37 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 20:39 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 20:40 ...and of course I manage to get my wand of cancellation stolen, the one hit these nymphs land 20:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) was given the Lance of Longinus, on T:18649 20:40 Careful, they'll zap your enchantments right off your underpants 20:40 I know. 20:40 -27 AC and displacement for what 20:41 FINALLY. Polyed enough items to get a bag. 20:41 what kind, arahael? 20:41 Ooh, and a shield of reflection. 20:41 tinklebear: Not sure yet. 20:41 lol 20:41 Oh, wow, and silver scale mail. 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22384 20:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:22385 20:42 !who 20:42 krm26: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] Umbire [evil] Frozty [nh370] tsingi [nh370] Alex [nh370] Abldabl [dnh] elron [dnh] malor [dnh] Heliokopis [dnh] | [hdf-eu] microlance [evil] | [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] 20:42 !whereis arahael 20:42 Umbire: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil]: (Mon Hum Fem Cha) T:12858 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 20:42 4 evilhackers, amazing! 20:44 tinklebear: Both bags I got from the poly piles are ordinary sacks, both in the same zap - still, this is awesome. 20:44 I kind of prefer sacks to the bag-o-delete-all-your-stuff, myself 20:45 Ah, nice, the dusty cloak I also got from this zap is invis. 20:45 But I think I'll stick to the robe. 20:45 Does evil's rat-king level have a guaranteed luckstone? 20:46 I'm _considering_ looking for him. zap him with poly, hopefully still got a charge left, and then go to town. 20:46 OF COURSE THE FUCKING NYMPH JUST HAPPENS TO TELEPORT WHERE SHE'S IN PERFECT RANGE TO ZAP ME 20:46 go team n! 20:46 And there goes my horse's saddle, again 20:46 Aphrodite's level can be a lot to handle 20:47 I actually think it's a good idea to go into that level nude. 20:47 And if you can't do that, then you're not ready. 20:47 it does have a luckstone arahael but it might be in a seriously annoying place 20:47 iirc 20:47 well, you can always *leave* the level nude. they'll help you out with that. 20:48 amateurhour: Nice. I'll need to take it, if I'm to have a chance of wearing this armour. Though, I'm concerned by the message that the armour is: You feel extremely uncomfortable wearing such armor. 20:48 are you a monk wearing armour 20:48 don't do that in evilhack 20:48 it's not like vanilla, the to-hit penalties are crazy 20:48 Yeah, sell that armor 20:49 In vanilla: "The to-hit penalties are crazy. Don't wear armour!" 20:49 In evil: "It's not like vanilla, the to-hit penalties are crazy!" 20:49 no, the penalty to your to-hit in vanilla only really matters right at the start 20:49 As in enough that Luck won't be enough to compensate for it down the line 20:49 in evilhack you can never really overcome it just don't bother 20:49 I have a *possible* GoD. 20:50 It helps that EvilHack also buffs martial arts 20:50 it's not enough 20:50 Wow. 20:50 Hmm, so that's tricky, then. What about shields? 20:50 You can wear armor on astral if you are doing a purely running ascension I guess 20:50 evilhack's 'buff' to martial arts is the most underwhelming buff across all the variants, don't buy into the propaganda :P 20:50 If you are using a weapon I don't think there is an additional shield penalty? 20:50 I just ascended monk but I did it weaponless 20:51 krm26: The question is if weapon/shield penalties are as bad as the armour penalty. 20:51 Centaur, so no armor and no feet 20:51 shields, like vanilla, don't actually hurt your to-hit they just prevent a sizable to-hit bonus iirc 20:51 krm26: The issue I have is finding a source of reflection. I now have two - in the form of Shield of reflection, and SDSM. 20:51 Dragonbane! 20:51 Ah, nice. 20:51 Thank you for the opportunity to mention Dragonbane in this conversation 20:52 The National Dragonbane Council would like to remind you to wish for Dragonbane 20:52 Yeah, I actually want to do this one weaponless, though - I mean, I don't have the conduct, but. 20:52 Oooh! It's gloves in evil! 20:52 That's nice. 20:52 It is THE BEST ARTIFACT in evilhack 20:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 4290 points, T:5022, killed by a gnome lady 20:53 yeah but does it give you +15% fashion points? 20:53 eyes of the overworld 1 - dragonbane 0 20:53 K2: Naga player race with 3 sets of arms wearing 3 sets of dragonhide gloves, make it so 20:54 (obviously no shirts, body armor, or boots) 20:54 K2: Pants. Dragonhide pants with dragon-hide codpiece. 20:54 krm26: naga != marilith 20:54 hey! no shirts, no shoes, no service 20:54 Maybe not YOUR nagas 20:54 lol! 20:55 Could be a 7-headed naga with 7 helmets 20:55 So... There's no chance of using my +3 SDSM. *sobs* 20:55 Sure there is -- wear it with a robe and magic missile everything 20:56 Just practiced against this random quivering blob. Pathetic. :( 20:56 The penalties are indeed far greater. 20:57 did you wish for it? 20:57 No, it came out of the poly piles - the last zap I was going to give. 20:57 Along with the bags, cloak of invis, and shield of reflection. 20:58 Hmph, and it looks like wearing a shield prevents your extra kick. 20:58 yeah, and knockback 20:58 So no extra kick, and no to-hit bonus, and possibly no extra-punch? 20:58 And no 'powerful punch', either, I suspect. 20:58 just play a monk as the goderator intended :) 20:59 Bad news, p. sure she used up all the charges 20:59 EPI: greater punishment for breaking veganism as a monk 20:59 the E of course standing for Evilhack 20:59 Good news, there's a silver battle-axe she somehow snagged along the way 21:00 amateurhour: stop posting that idea. you've posted it about 5 times by now 21:00 and yes it is a YANI, #3182 21:00 * arahael stashes his +3 SDSM 21:01 I actually forgot I'd posted it as a suggestion 21:01 amateurhour: A greater punishment for breaking veganism wouldn't stop me. 21:01 amateurhour: I'd just save it for wraiths. 21:01 (And a floating eye or two) 21:02 Hmm, well, my AC is now at a comfortable -20 21:02 can't blame me for not remembering it when it's not on the yanis page yet aosdict :^) 21:02 > You backhand the wererat! You pivot and roundhouse kick the wererat! 21:02 ^^ That's whilst still wearing the shield! So I guess luck has a play. 21:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:60328 21:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1709 points, T:3219, killed by a stone golem 21:12 lol i think i may have figured out how to autoscum for a wow while sleeping 21:12 if i did it right it'll also take care of the first wish 21:13 and not hang on the wish prompt and give me a shit gem 21:13 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:13 i set up a specific alt for such shenanigans tho, so if anyone complains that it doesnt count the same etc. it's very clear which alts used naughty shenanigans and which didn't 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:50838 21:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:13684 21:14 Arahael: grats 21:15 krm26: It was surprisingly easy! :D I guess having AC:-25 and Grand Master helps. 21:15 now i can rest easy 21:15 Turns out Rat King has good MR, though. 21:15 and hopefully wake up to 3 holy charging and an 0:2 WoW 21:15 :> 21:16 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 21:16 Oh lord love a duck! A marker in with the Bag of the Hesperides? 21:17 That must be a fake non-magic marker? 21:17 Hmm. A brown potion, from the sewers... 21:17 night~ 21:17 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0] 21:18 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 21:20 aoei: G'night. 21:21 Hmm, there's this impenetratable room in the rat-king level. 21:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Con Swn Fem Cha), 109 points, T:280, killed by an arrow trap 21:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) was given the Shield of the Resolute Heart, on T:62264 21:25 yasi: add multiheaded hydras, with another helmet slot for each head 21:26 The only non-multiheaded hydras are cnidarians 21:27 Hmm, so evidently no luckstone. :( 21:28 interesting, I didn't know that 21:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) destroyed the Watchdog of the Boreal Valley, on T:21892 21:29 arahael: There should be a luckstone 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2690 points, T:2839, killed by a wounded crocodile 21:30 krm26: Maybe it's in the inaccessible room. It has no doors, and the walls are too hard to dig. 21:31 krm26: There was a loadstone, however. 21:31 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 21:31 Hmm -- I was there only two runs ago (only time I've seen it), but I can't remember about that room 21:31 krm26: I magicmapped it (via throne) 21:31 Could someone have level-ported out with the luckstone? 21:31 Maybe the door is just hidden? 21:31 Tried object detection? 21:32 I can glance at the source if you like 21:32 No, I didn't use obj detection, don't have any - but I did use 3 zaps from secret door detection: No doors. And I exhaustively checked all four walls regardless. 21:33 As in, I walked up to each wall, and zapped. 21:33 I didn't exhaustively check the diggability of each wall tile, though... 21:33 Ok, the two areas in the middle are just rock 21:34 You missed a luckstone niche though 21:34 Will be at one of { (03,14),(70,03),(12,07) } 21:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2 21:35 Hmm, in mine, the two areas in hte middle isn't rock. I do have an unidentified grey stone from that level, but no corresponding announcement here that I found it, so I assume it's not the luckstone. 21:35 It places one loadstone and one luckstone at two of those three locations 21:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abldabl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) destroyed the Bastard of the Boreal Valley, on T:22202 21:35 Of course you can also find random flint and touchstones like always 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 9188 points, T:9376, killed by a wounded vampire lord, while helpless 21:36 WHat's the nethack coordinate system? 21:36 x,y 21:36 Same as always. 21:36 Well, right, but which is the origin? :D 21:36 Hehehahaha 21:36 But good to know we don't use polar coordinates... 21:36 Omigod I have had too much to drink I almost wet myself at "x,y" 21:37 I think I'll waste a scroll of identify on this grey stone. 21:37 I wouldn't 21:37 It's the luckstone(!) 21:37 Just rub it against an iron object 21:37 Oh, ok 21:38 Ignore me then 21:38 * Umbire huffs and sits in a corner 21:38 Well, I had other things I wanted to identify as well, and it was blessed identify, but a few more items would've been better. As it turned out, it only identified two things. 21:38 baw 21:38 At least you know for sure you have A luckstone 21:39 Right, and that's all I wanted. :D I guess there must be /another/ luckstone there. 21:39 Or maybe the announcements aren't reliable in evilhack. 21:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:14195 21:39 I'm not sure what drives those announcements, but it is possible it is busted for the new mines end level description he added -- K2 can answer when he's on 21:40 "possible" = "could have theoretically been implemented in such a way but I have no idea how it was actually implemented" 21:42 Haha, screw you for drinking that potion of gain level -- "As the lich grows up into a demilich, she expires!" 21:42 Yeah, that's one to !tell or poke into #evilhack about 21:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 480 points, T:1735, killed by an Aleax of Blind Io 21:43 Oh, there's an #evilhack? 21:43 Neat. 21:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3692 points, T:2590, killed by a gnome lady 21:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:17883 21:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 2535 points, T:3181, killed by a manes 21:58 Woah. Leps steal anything htat's gold, not just gold. 21:58 Yep. 21:58 (I think that was one of the first additions I made to the EvilHack ATT page incidentally) 21:59 It stole my "oMR 22:00 Speaking of amulets there's one buried in a wall 22:01 Also fortunately I didn't get much of my shit cancelled 22:01 ...or any of it really 22:02 Must be the GDSM 22:02 That can be fatal with the wrong ring or amulet at the wrong time so watch out 22:02 Gold amulet of flying over lava... 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:18726 22:03 Found it. 22:04 krm26: Right. 22:04 Huh, silver doesn't divide puddings 22:04 Neat 22:05 ...sike, it wasn't buried 22:05 Just a room I never noticed the whole time 22:11 Well, turns out that tin was cursed 22:11 And that's a proper explosion 22:11 Umbire: Feels like it happens more often in evil. 22:12 First time it happened, my response was... "What? Who would trap a tin like this!?" 22:12 hi 22:12 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 22:12 It's a vanilla-ism 22:12 there is a luckstone in the sewers mines end 22:12 Save for the full on 3x3 explosion 22:12 p. sure that's new 22:12 you just didnt get it yet 22:13 Yeah, as I said, you managed to nab A luckstone 22:13 Ah, interesting. I guess I was... lucky. 22:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Hlf Fem Neu), 100 points, T:121, killed by a rolling boulder trap 22:14 arahael how spoiled do you want to be 22:14 concerning the sewers mines end 22:15 K2: Concerning the sewers, I think I'd like to know all. :D But "how spoiled" in general as for other parts of the game... I'm not sure, it seems to be a fine line I'm not clear about. 22:15 ok 22:15 have you ever found the hidden room in the sewers mines end? 22:15 It _is_ nice to have the element of discovery, but I can't think of anything extra for the sewers level. 22:15 Yeah, arahael knows about the hidden room 22:15 Yep, just couldn't get into it. 22:15 But wasn't sure there was a way in 22:15 there is 22:16 Is it a portal, or do I have to actually dig through the double-walled wall? 22:16 it requires a fair bit of luck if you dont have tele control 22:16 krm told them about the lil caches or whatever the word was 22:16 Oh, so it's teleport only 22:16 Ah, you have toe teleport into it? 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2951 22:16 yes 22:16 there are two set teleport traps on that level 22:16 I did notice there were a lot of tele-traps. 22:16 Akin to vault teleporters I wager? 22:16 eventually it'll tele you into that room 22:17 A bit risky if you can't get out. 22:17 I guess there's another in that room? 22:17 (there's also a tele trap in that room so you can get out 22:17 Ah, nice. 22:17 lol 22:17 And... what's in the room? 22:17 the walls to that room, you cant dig through nor phase through 22:17 I noticed. 22:17 You mean besides "the" luckstone 22:17 ? 22:17 Yeah. 22:17 Besides "the" luckstone. 22:17 Also gay baby jailing players isn't Evil 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3139 22:17 just mean. 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3142 22:18 sometimes (not always) the mines end luckstone spawns in that room 22:18 K2 wouldn't do that 22:18 I suspect the luckstone is in that room, but I already have a luckstone, so I shouldn't need that. 22:18 ok 22:18 Still, bragging rights 22:18 just saying, you didnt get the livelog because you didnt actually get THE luckstone yet 22:18 Makes sense. :) 22:19 YASI: Make the Mines' End Luck stone a quasi-"artifact" luckstone 22:19 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4730 points, T:3293, killed by a slightly wounded black unicorn 22:19 I was actually thinking that I've by now started to depend on the livelog to tell me if I get such an artifact. 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed joes' ghost, the former Sergeant, on T:20382 22:20 I collected Kathryn's nasties with a scroll of taming and they are just demolishing everything -- some of the survivors are still with me in Gehennom 22:21 I wish I knew what to feed my gelatinous cube 22:22 things 22:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Nob Hlf Fem Neu), 964 points, T:1918, killed by a cryonic corpse 22:22 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:22 krm26: They do like luckstones. 22:23 feed them the chest with all your scrolls and stuff 22:24 Just feed them zombie corpses. 22:24 in vanilla once, I had a whole posse of tame gelatinous b. one got hungry. 22:24 K2: Silver do anything special to zombies? 22:24 ate my stash. bye bye stash 22:25 this was in 3.4.3. maybe it's different now. 22:26 Umbire nope 22:26 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:26 figured not, just had to be sure 22:26 Buried this one anyway 22:26 Oh right, vaults are still a thing 22:27 ...but I'd much rather find a bag first 22:28 gelatinous cubes should eat but not digest iron chests, letting you carry your entire stash with you 22:28 Stick your hand in your pet, rummage around... 22:28 that's pretty awesome. 22:28 Almost as good as sentient pearwood luggage 22:29 I forget, which variants had the sentient luggage? 22:30 much better than a sentient bag-of-exploding 22:30 The Discworld variant? I dunno, presumably slex :-) 22:30 * Umbire swats both of you with newspapers 22:30 tnnt 22:30 in a way 22:30 It's definitely a Discworld reference and I'm p. sure at least one non-SLEX variant has it 22:31 tnnt 22:31 Like actual sentient luggage, not just swap chests and such 22:31 Saw it on the wiki at some point... 22:31 the swap chest is based directly off of The Luggage 22:31 Well TIL and thank you for the trivia 22:31 But I'm thinking of something more directly based on it 22:32 (if not *it* outright) 22:32 Feels like a Splice/Grunt thing possibly 22:33 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 22:35 smokey potions are coffee in my game. Sweet, I guess I should bless all I find and quaff them. 22:35 Umbire: tnnt. ;) 22:36 * Umbire takes out a baseball bat 22:36 And yeah, the moment I saw the chest in tnnt for the first time, I half-expected it to suggenly grow feet and follow me. 22:36 *suddenly 22:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4697 22:38 Would be easier to find if stuff was better categorized. 22:39 Eh. Got shit to do on the wiki anyway. 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:52413 22:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:52431 22:45 arahael: next tnnt, kick the swapchest 22:45 see what happens :P 22:45 K2: Haha. Kicking sapient pearwood? That shouldn't go down well! 22:45 * K2 looks around and whistles innocently 22:46 Perhaps I will. ;) 22:47 Wondering what good wishes are for me in evilhack. Thinking it would probably be first "blessed 2+ dragonbane", followed soon after by "blessed 2+ dragonhide helm of speed". 22:47 (Just in case I get a wish out of these three smokey potions) 22:50 Yes. I have a wish. My first evilhack wish! 22:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed 2+ dragonbane", on T:19275 22:51 Just greased would be enough 22:51 Oooh, and it game with the owner! 22:51 oof 22:51 Umbire: Does it really matter if there are useless words? 22:51 Efficiency :B 22:51 probably not but i don't think you can get +2 enchantment if you type 2+ 22:51 unless the game autofixes that for you 22:52 which i doubt 22:52 Oh, interesting, so I've been doing THAT bit wrong all this time. 22:52 i guess so lol 22:52 *sigh*, time to hunt down this owner - it quaffed a cursed gain level. 22:52 idk, never noticed your + specs in wishes before 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1151 22:53 You should be prepped to fight them at the least 22:53 but it should be +x not x+ 22:53 "should" being the keyword 22:53 Umbire: I am, yeah. 22:53 Umbire: i managed to scum 2 first room 0:3 WoW's on NAO remarkably quickly :poggers: :> 22:53 Neat. 22:54 hopefully i can get a fast enough run to beat the pesky cat 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 324 points, T:1214, killed by a dagger, while sleeping off a magical draught 22:54 Hmm, I can't find the owner upstairs. :/ 22:55 Is it possible for them to go up more than one level? 22:55 c!oGL should only be one level 22:55 do you have telepathy or something to detect them at a distance 22:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:92, killed by an uninjured water demon 22:56 I do, and they're nowhere to be seen. 22:56 It's possible they subsequently stepped on a levelport trap 22:56 ok so a few thigns could happened, including that one ^ 22:57 they could also have hit a trap door, or possessed a digging wand and dug down again after going up 22:57 But you'd have heard that last one 22:57 I just went back down, and Roger the Roamer is still here, and I did discover a trapdoor upstairs so perhaps that's what happened. 22:57 Odd, though. 22:57 oh right 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:236, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 22:57 do you hear trapdoors/holes tho? 22:57 or just if they dig themselves? 22:57 Yep, trapdoored 22:57 Yeah, they have to dig it themselves 22:57 I actually never really paid attention to it. 22:57 Trapdoors and holes are "silent" otherwise 22:59 Oh, and yeah, Kevin the invisible Roamer (I had the wrong name earlier), is also mounted. 23:00 Well, that was fun. :D 23:00 Wow, *20* grey stones. 23:01 OOh, and the owner came with a BoH! 23:01 nice 23:01 That's a bonus. 2 wishes in one! 23:02 Hmm, and it looks like it contains a wand of what is probably cancellation. 23:03 dragonbane is _amazing_. 23:04 Yes 23:04 The Natioanl Dragonbane Board thanks you for your support 23:05 And it lets you fight Kathryn for the third-best artifact in evilhack 23:05 Thank the board for giving the prior owner a BoH for me to grab, too. ;) 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 237 points, T:668, killed by a wounded invisible gnomish wizard, while frozen by a potion 23:08 20 grey stones? 23:08 Flint 23:08 Roamer = Caveman 23:08 minturns is brutal tho even if you scum up a WoW so much depends on good early shops 23:09 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:09 Ah. 23:10 Now, I have to think about what I want for possible-wish #2. 23:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:9610 23:10 Did Evil buff slings at all? 23:10 I know dNet makes them fucking bonkers 23:11 arahael: Standard wish logic applies here - what do you have and what do you currently 'need/want' most? 23:11 You're a monk, you have reflection from D-Bane now... Magic resistance? 23:11 I'm walking through it out loud because this is how I think 23:11 Umbire: Got that from "oMR, though it's gold. 23:12 Umbire: I don't have speed boots though, so that's a possible option. 23:12 You could also go for a helm of speed, leaves boots slot open for like 23:12 I haven't done the big room, nor even the castle. 23:12 water-walking or levitation 23:12 I've got a ring for levitation. 23:12 Then watch out for electric eels :B 23:13 ...or energy vorticies 23:13 Fuck those things. 23:13 Hmm, still, the ring is my usual tool there. 23:13 I know, I'm saying make sure it doesn't get exploded 23:14 I haven't geno'ed anything, but I'm not wishing up a scroll. 23:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:1203 23:14 At the least have a second one ready 23:14 Speaking of dNet 23:14 Umbire: Backup plan would be to use my "oMagic Breathing. 23:14 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:15 I don't have a means of deathing Master Kaen, though, that's a concern. 23:16 Maybe I should wish that up... Wand of Death... 23:16 good luck with your run and/or sleeping, aoei, in whichever order 23:16 No poison res messages lately, interesting 23:18 * tinklebear would wish arahael good luck with Master Kaen, but doubts luck will affect that outcome 23:18 Luck does affect hit chance so... 23:18 :B 23:19 tinklebear: Master Kaen has always been "trivial" for me, last time I killed him in vanilla, I did so after being banished from the quest several times, then managed to get the artifacts without killing the quest nemesis. 23:19 Rejected, rather 23:19 But it's still good to be prepared. 23:19 Was it an alignment problem? 23:19 Or just not enough XLs 23:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:22946 23:19 Umbire: No, I attacked a peaceful, and thus angered the quest leader. 23:19 arahael: cool. no need for luck! 23:19 Ooh, I see. 23:19 Umbire: ... 5 times... :D 23:20 even if you don't need luck, Luck is still nice to have :B 23:20 arahael: Guessing you finagled your way back in through the eye? 23:20 EotA* 23:20 not the eye, brain 23:20 pls 23:20 I have *one* charge in my polymorph wand I could use in leu of death. 23:20 Umbire: Yeap, back in through the eye :) 23:20 Black dragon mode :D 23:21 does he just not wear the eyes? seems kind of less than evil. 23:22 He picks them up immediately so 23:22 The idea is to zap him *before* that 23:22 Indeed. 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 176 points, T:718, killed by an uninjured bat 23:23 This is my best evil game ever. 23:23 Same :b 23:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2550 23:23 Huh, didn't expect lesser nightmare to go down that easy 23:23 I thought it'd at least TASTE like nightmares. 23:23 Yeah, they're surprisingly weak. 23:24 I _could_ wish for a magic marker, or dragonhide helm of speed. There's no other helm I really need, anyway - usually I go for elven helm. 23:25 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:25 I'd lean towards the helm unless you have a pressing need to write scrolls in the near future 23:25 *personally* speaking 23:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:26 My AC is pretty good by vanilla standards, so I'm thinking I don't have a pressing need to write scrolls, and there's a guaranteed marker somewhere else in teh game anyway. 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 477 points, T:1034, killed by a bolt of cold 23:27 I'm considering another artifact. 23:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:31 arahael - dragonhide helm of speed <--- not a thing 23:31 speed boots yes 23:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:13736 23:31 Thanks for teh tip. 23:32 anything whose base material is any type of metal, cant be dragonhide 23:32 My b there 23:32 I generally meant the helm of speed 23:33 K2: Ah, good to know. 23:33 So perhaps I want dragonhide speedboots. 23:33 That's a thing you *can* do 23:33 Source: thing I did 23:35 arahael: Right, so literally the first time I tried to eat a zombie corpse almost zombie'd me 23:35 * Umbire swats with a baseball bat 23:35 Umbire: It'll do that *every* time. 23:35 Oh, so that's part of the terminal illness, then? 23:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:53508 23:36 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 23:36 Umbire: Yeah. 23:36 Meaning a unihorn can still cure it. 23:36 ...right. 23:36 Indeed. 23:36 * Umbire hits with bat anyway 23:36 Heh. 23:36 Only reason that was an option anyway is because it was a giant corpse 23:37 Not wasting my good scrolls of earth just to bury zombies, no way I'm getting them into a box 23:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 235 points, T:1019, killed by a wounded wererat 23:37 Odd, not everything seems to reduce their weight in the BoH. 23:37 Maybe my BoH is jinxed? 23:38 I don't follow. 23:38 Is it that you're carry enough stuff to still be burdened whether or not you have the BoH? 23:39 Well, I have 904/900, regardless of whether or not my food ration is in the bag or outside. 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 654 points, T:1727, killed by an uninjured hobbit, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:42 Probably because of stacking with the other food rations? 23:42 Iunno. 23:42 I took a bunch of stuff out, a huge bunch of stuff out, and then read the blessed scroll of identify. My inventory now shows 899/900 23:43 I took the wand of cancellation out, though. 23:44 (Yes. You read that right) 23:44 Hmm, maybe it's not a BoH afterall? 23:44 Oilskin sack? 23:45 Wow. No, it's not a BoH. 23:45 Bags that sell/buy for significant prices are either oilskin or BoH 23:45 Yeah, I have no shopkeepers left in the game. 23:45 Hmm, well, it's a blessed greased "bag", then. It must be oilskin, because it's not a sack. 23:47 Yep 23:47 Oilskin is common for ascension kits 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 198 points, T:597, killed by a heavily wounded gnome lord 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 463 points, T:1348, killed by a wounded werejackal 23:48 It's good. 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:70 23:51 And there's ANOTHER zombie on this damned floor 23:52 Ah, and I found a random BoH, and this time it really is a BoH. 23:52 A great combination, I can keep all my scrolls and potions in the oilskin, and everything else in teh BoH. 23:53 Potions are too heavy for an oilskin sack 23:53 ...this a cloak of magic resistance? 23:53 arahael: Or... just use the oilskin bag to stash super-emergency stuff, AND the BoH when necessary 23:54 You can, of course, put your oilskin sack in your bag of holding 23:54 That too 23:54 Yeah, I'm thinking oilskin into the BoH. 23:54 Baw, it's just a cloak of protection 23:55 MC3 is pretty nice 23:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:17440 23:55 It is 23:55 But not what I need right this moment 23:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] rikersan (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) wished for "blessed bag of holding named bag of evilhack bugs", on T:17494 23:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] billum (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 269 points, T:493, killed by a wounded dwarf 23:58 Uh oh 23:58 -!- werekitten has joined #hardfought 23:59 @riker whatever you do do NOT blow up that bag 23:59 Riker pls 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1664