00:00 Yeah 00:01 Just dip out while you can 00:01 I feel like double digit AC would be a safe floor to aim for because lol dragons 00:04 Right, or even reflection. 00:04 """or""" 00:05 Heh. 00:05 I should be able to buy *one* unit of protection now, at least, which what i got out of the vault that contained the portal. 00:06 I do have a shield, but I can't fight with it. 00:06 wdym 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32342 00:06 (A shield of reflection, that is). That's the only reflection I have been able to find. :( 00:06 Oh 00:06 I'm a monk, Umbire. 00:06 Ooooooooooooooooh 00:06 That complicates things greatly 00:08 Right. 00:08 No gain level potions yet, and I'm still at Xp12. Managed to get a spell of identify, though, which is good because I haven't come across an accessible altar yet. 00:09 Which means no blessed identify scrolls either. 00:10 Hmm, I really need holy water now. I wonder... If one of these scrolls is 'remove curse', that might do it? 00:11 Ooh, orcish soldiers have berserker rages 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:40866 00:16 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 00:17 Restored stats finally, now going to Soko 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:8232 00:25 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:27 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:41117 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided golden nagas, on T:41117 00:29 Sigh. 3 useless scrolls of enchant weapon. Maybe they won't always be useless. 00:30 that blessed scroll of remove curse can get you blessed water, if you use it correctly. 00:30 (do you still need blessed water?) 00:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:24705 00:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:24721 00:31 tinklebear: I do indeed, I'll have to prepare quite a bit for it though. 00:32 Eg, find as many potion of water as I can find, name each one, etc. 00:32 ah. okay. well good luck. 00:32 yeah, you definitely know the drill! 00:32 Thanks. :) More pressing concern is the AC. 00:32 No spare/"junk" potions to cancel or dilute? 00:33 Umbire: It's a slow process of applying "identify" spells, I do have a bunch of junk potions, now though. 00:33 Ah 00:33 I basically have to wait a few hundred turns between castings. 00:33 What I usually do is is dip to dilute and then do a mass water prayer 00:33 I also use it as a means for wish fishing 00:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:24780 00:33 And I'm currently looking for my spellbook of healing. 00:34 Umbire: Wish fishing? 00:34 Yes 00:34 As in I start at the uppermost fountain and dip to dilute/blank stuff 00:34 Umbire: Do enlighten me. How do you do the mass water prayer? Or do you mean at an altar? 00:34 and just... hope I get a wish-granting water demon along the way 00:34 Ah, I see. 00:35 Yeah once you have all the water you want blessed you just sit it on the altar, pray while on said altar, and if successful all the placed potions are blessed 00:35 I'll definitely wish for an "oR. 00:35 Right, sadly no altar at this point. 00:35 You can do the same at cross-aligned altars to get unholy water but I don't have the stones for that 00:35 I've been tempted, but it's holy water I need, unholy is just a good-to-have. 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:41250 00:38 I tend to stick to just using what unholy water I have when I actually need it 00:38 On the other hand, in just 2 more XP levels, I'll be able to use the quest altar. 00:38 or if I decide I genuinely need more I dip in whatever unholy water I have 00:38 uh, if you can get your quest leader moving around by being fast enough you can skip a step or two there 00:39 I'd still have to convert it, it'd be very tricky. Plus, they're probably as fast as I am. 00:41 Not necessarily 00:41 I mean it depends 00:41 you probably haven't got speed boots or like, haste self so... 00:42 Indeed not. I'm currently attempting to identify them - I've been collecting boots. 00:43 WOohoo! Enchant armour identified. Now i *seriously* need holy water! Ha. 00:44 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:46 Woah! Finally got around to identifying my "potion of water". It turns out to be holy water. 00:46 o/ 00:46 How lucky is that!? 00:46 1/3, not that lucky :B 00:47 Umbire: Don't rain on my parade. ;) 00:47 * Umbire reads a scroll of flood 00:47 Is it really 1/3, though? 00:47 1/2 actually 00:47 it's either holy or no 4Head 00:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed Ghoul-queen Nitocris, on T:25229 00:47 all quips aside enjoy blessing your stuff 00:47 just need to dip and make water at this point 00:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42727 00:48 you get one less potion using the "dip water into holy water" path but you're not stuck waiting on altars 00:48 (wait, you been to Minetown?) 00:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42732 00:49 1 in 8 actually. 00:49 1 in 2 if you already knew it wasn't uncursed. 00:50 So, 1 in 8, then. 00:50 mm~ 00:50 Actually I could probably have inferred that it was uncursed. 00:51 non-cursed != uncursed 00:51 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:25870 00:51 Yeah, *that* is actually a pretty important distinction 00:52 In that case, 1 in 7 00:54 Ooh, yeah. My mistake, I could probably have inferred it was not uncursed. :/ 00:54 * arahael isn't thinking quite right. 00:54 *non-cursed, rather 00:54 nah it's aight, can be easy to mix up 00:55 mm 00:55 Pet testing is basically "cursed or non-cursed" and then from the latter group it's either uncursed or blessed 00:56 but... are you absolutely certain you want to break your survive-with-crap-AC conduct? will the game still hold any challenge for you? 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:43970 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:24654 00:56 Yeah, it's just aI have a stack of identify scrolls, which turned out to be uncursed. So it's likely that the remaining identify scrolls are probably either blessed or cursed. 00:56 tinklebear: No, I've simply not been able to get better AC yet. 00:56 ;D 00:57 tinklebear: But once I bless this luckstone, find another unicorn, toss some gems... I might be able to fight with a shield of reflection. 00:57 ... Which is the only source of reflection I've found. 00:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:42743 01:01 best of luck, then, arahael! 01:03 tinklebear: Heh, thanks. I'll need lots of luck both in the game and in the real. 01:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1025 01:04 Okay, I know for a fact I have a magic lamp, but I need a means of blessing 01:05 Woah, found 8 shuriken. 01:06 It really is cruel that monks can't visit the samurai quest 01:06 And that you can't wish for "100 shuriken". 01:07 right? 01:07 Well, I've not wasted a wish finding out... But you generally can only wish for like, 2, maybe 3 items if they're stackable, right? 01:07 The odds get very bad otherwise. 01:08 so I am led to understand. 01:08 * tinklebear hasn't spent any wishes testing this out either 01:12 Depends on the items 01:12 I think the rules are different if it's projectiles 01:12 Nothing I need obj detection for, isn't there? 01:12 * arahael dips those. 01:12 You can always check wiki or wiztest to be 100% 01:12 I mean those you can farm off nymphs 01:12 Right. 01:13 they have uses, albeit specific ones 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 32218 points, T:25380, killed by a leocrotta 01:13 e.g. vault hunting 01:13 and blessed treats it as if you'd handled the items detected personally 01:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42852 01:13 (i.e. you know exactly what certain objects are if you've ID'd them previously) 01:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:42861 01:14 Yeah, I've already found The vault. 01:15 treasure beyond measure 01:15 Ok, 21 potions of water. Possibly overcompensating for the pain earlier. 01:16 Hey, many as you need 01:16 Better to have and etc. etc. 01:16 no matter how many you make, you always wish you had made a couple more. 01:17 Right, I'm seriously tempted to just bless every last one. 01:17 lol 01:17 > Your 20 potions of water glow with a light blue aura. 01:17 The best thing I've seen this entire game. :D 01:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:26655 01:18 Now, luckstone. boh, etc, etc, etc. 01:18 thanks for the laugh, arahael. good night. 01:18 tinklebear: Sleep well! 01:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Lungorthin, on T:26706 01:19 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "will do"] 01:19 Night 01:19 damnit. 01:19 But yeah, you tend to want unholy water for shit like say 01:19 reverse geno 01:20 cursed earth for single boulders 01:20 cursed destroy armor has a corner used where confused reading instead fooproofs a piece of armor 01:20 Umbire: Yeah, I'm aware. 01:21 I'm certain I'll come across more potions. 01:21 I'm trying to think of other uses 01:21 And maybe one of those will be unholy. 01:21 Umbire: Cursed telo. 01:21 oh, cursed invisibility! 01:21 cursed tele is relatively given 01:21 Oh, I generally get perm-invis asap. 01:21 ehhhhhhhhhhh 01:21 I don't like perm invis I can't control 01:21 You can controll it with a mummy wrapping. :D 01:22 The only problem with it really is with shops. 01:22 Exactly 01:22 I like shopping 01:23 🗡 01:23 Heh. 01:23 There's not /that/ many shops. 01:23 Don't care 01:23 🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡🗡 01:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 9946 points, T:2013, quit 01:25 Heh. 01:26 Oh, yikes. Finally identified my magic markers. (0:96) and (0:97) 01:27 That'll... Make quite a few scrolls of enchant armour, methinks. 01:28 Ooh, a long worm 01:30 Oh cute, another throne room on the floor beneath the first one 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Robber, on T:45934 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:46335 01:34 Hmm, tossed two gems at a unicorn, I *think* that means I now have max luck. 01:35 If they "gratefully" accepted, then yes. 01:35 If "graciously" then you tossed them glass 01:35 They did. 01:35 ic 01:35 Gratefully, I believe. 01:36 Yes! I can fight with a shield now. 01:37 AC:-5 now. :D 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:46771 01:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Belial, on T:27312 01:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Naome, on T:27313 01:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Fierna, on T:27315 01:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 24600 points, T:9058, killed by an invisible dwarf lord 01:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:27448 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:2580 01:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed living mask", on T:27495 01:46 And purchased two units of protection, which got me a total of 5 AC points(!) 01:46 This is a fantastic game. 01:48 love those +4 first donations 01:48 ye 01:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:27599 01:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nob Hlf Fem Cha), 2762042 points, T:27601, drowned in a moat by a Dagon 01:51 My AC is now -14 :D 01:51 So onwards to Fort Ludios. 01:52 GL! 01:52 and RIP microlance 01:52 i made it all the way to dagon with a tentacle brain and 0 sanity. too bad i had all the fears for aquatic stuff, i just couldnt touch dagon 01:55 F 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3504 01:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:48311 01:58 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1734 points, T:3585, killed by brainlessness 01:59 A trice corpse makes fort ludios rather easy. 02:00 Conflict makes it extra ez 02:00 !lastgame Estyn 02:00 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Estyn/nethack/dumplog/1608963199.nh.html 02:01 >reading geno with curse-testing 02:01 Classic Blunder 02:01 No conflict yet. 02:02 -!- mode/Beholder [+Zi] by Beholder 02:02 -!- card.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ The November NetHack Tournament 2020 has ended! - https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt 02:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 02:03 also I meant without aaa 02:03 !who 02:03 K2: [hdf-us] Umbire [evil] Estyn [nh370] Alex [nh370] omghax [nh370] Luxidream [nh370] Thidwick [un] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Arahael [nh370] 02:03 !whereis omghax 02:03 * Umbire is in Soko 02:03 K2: [hdf-us] omghax [nh370]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 02:03 K2: dude how do you permawaste zombies 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:6, killed by a falling object 02:03 the worst they've done is kill my dogs but I'm sick of them 02:04 also updating Beholder? 02:04 Throw them in the bin 02:04 updating 370-hdf (and beholder) 02:05 Umbire, there's a few ways 02:05 o 02:05 lock the corpses in a chest/large box 02:05 tin the corpses 02:05 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 02:05 Also yeah, I know disposing of the corpses themselves work but that's a bit inconvenient 02:05 eat the corpses (if convict) 02:05 toss the corpses into lava or dip them in a forge 02:05 some are on the heavy side and there usually isn't a container close enough 02:05 would cancellation work? 02:06 cancel them 02:06 yup 02:06 but when they revive they are no longer cancelled 02:06 just buys you some time 02:07 I can handle combat against them fine, have been able to for a while 02:07 they're just annoying 02:07 decapitation? 02:07 and giant zombies are spawning 02:08 Muad yes thank you 02:08 if you have vorpal and you decapitate a zombie it wont revive 02:08 Lawful sadly 02:08 wielding sunsword in the presense of zombies causes their corpses to burn into ash 02:08 but useful info regardless 02:08 ooooo 02:08 vorpal isnt intelligent, you could use it as any alignment 02:09 yeah but that means I have to rely on RNG to get it 02:09 fuck a Vorpal wish 02:09 really 02:09 if you have vorpal, that means an NPC does not 02:09 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10 I already wished for Dragonbane 02:10 And I'm not keen on taking my chances after that fucking DL3 spider lair 02:10 hah 02:10 welp... you have the info you wanted 02:11 how does bisection work, anyway? (can't remember) would it prevent corpse generation altogether 02:11 good question 02:11 i dont think it will 02:11 nah, it wouldn't 02:12 the corpse would just be fucked up 02:12 YASI: bisected bodies count as 2 separate corpses and can be tinned as such 02:13 Did someone say exponentially growing zombies? 02:13 :) 02:13 ^ evil smile 02:14 * Umbire sighs and puts a wand of striking to his head 02:14 heh 02:14 * K2 goes back to updating 370-hdf on remaining servers 02:17 Oh yeah, I know you need to learn Elbereth 02:17 Where would you though 02:17 Umbire: Soko. 02:18 Umbire: Apparently you can learn it from a fortune, too. 02:18 But definitely soko. 02:18 Oh right, prize 02:18 ... 02:18 : 02:18 :D * 02:18 So convenient for Fort Ludios to have an accessible boulder. Thanks giant. 02:19 Yeah, you usually get at least one boulder with which to get at crossing the castle 02:19 failing that you have earth ID'd from soko by then 02:19 (I'd hope) 02:20 If that fails you can just use one of the many attack wands the soliders likely owned each other with 02:20 good odds on getting a couple of cold ones 02:21 Ok, wow, Croesus hits hard. 02:21 Yep 02:21 Umbire: Nice. And yeah, but I'm saving earth for the quest. Already used one 02:21 4d10 two-handed sword 02:21 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 02:21 I usually use 1 for the big room, and 1 for quest. 02:21 Yeah, didn't manage to find any wands of cold. 02:22 Though, I stoned most of the guard, so... 02:22 Just break the statues 4Head 02:22 Speaking of rocks I can learn E-word quick if I just don't suck balls on SL4 02:22 though the zoo is another question... 02:23 Wow, he shoots hard, too. 02:23 Wand of his own? 02:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 277 points, T:1449, killed by a gnome 02:24 Or picking up leftover weapons and such? 02:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:27136 02:24 Yay 02:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:736 02:24 Umbire: He picked up weapons. 02:24 What'd he 'shoot' 02:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:2, killed by a falling object 02:25 But I hit *very* hard at the moment. St 18, Grand Master, and +3 ring of increase damage, and all. 02:25 DOGGY 02:25 He shot bolts, I think it was. Didn't pay much attention. 02:25 !who 02:25 K2: [hdf-us] Umbire [evil] Estyn [nh370] Alex [nh370] Luxidream [nh370] | [hdf-eu] p0werm0de [nh370] andvare [nh370] elenmirie [nh370] omghax [nh370] | [hdf-au] Arahael [nh370] 02:25 Probably picked up a dead centaur's crossbow set 02:25 !whereis omghax 02:25 K2: [hdf-eu] omghax [nh370]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 02:25 Umbire: Yeah, he did. 02:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:8, killed by a falling object 02:26 I'm currently wearing orange dragon scales, too. 02:26 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27 Oh, wow. Intrinsic searching is good. 02:27 Very 02:27 Esp. for his stash 02:27 LOT of land mines there 02:27 ...also why Orange? 02:28 "It was there". 02:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "+2 blessed rustproof gauntlets of power", on T:737 02:28 What I really want is Grey. 02:29 Why do I always sense a wave of pyschic energy on this level? I haven't actually found an h yet. 02:29 Fair 02:29 It's hiding... 02:29 And I generally try to blind-check for that as soon as I can 02:30 Some variants move mind flayers to a different symbol though. 02:30 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:30 Well, this is vanilla. 02:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:48546 02:33 mm 02:33 No telepathy? 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:48550 02:34 Andrio: No, actually. 02:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 553 points, T:2636, killed by a kitten 02:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:35 That's unfortunate 02:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] omghax (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:8, killed by a falling object 02:35 basic monster detection should spot them, you ideally want to be able to place them before you phyiscally see them 02:35 If the h doesn't come to me, then it won't bother me. 02:35 And you're a monk so... 02:35 Ah, I've lit up the whole place with light. 02:35 !who 02:35 K2: [hdf-us] Umbire [evil] Estyn [nh370] Alex [nh370] Luxidream [nh370] | [hdf-eu] andvare [nh370] elenmirie [nh370] | [hdf-au] Arahael [nh370] omghax [nh370] 02:36 !whereis omghax 02:36 K2: [hdf-au] omghax [nh370]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 02:36 [hdf-au] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:6, killed by a falling object 02:36 NetHack 370-hdf updated (all servers) 02:36 If it's main branch they might be trapped in a walled-off closet or vault 02:36 ^ new editlevel (29) 02:36 Or just an undiscovered room 02:37 A crystal ball will also help. 02:37 Yep... It found me. 02:37 Are you R.I.P.? 02:37 Got sucked twice, but no, I just wacked it. Ded. 02:37 new bit in 370-hdf, monsters will no longer pick up and walk off with *locked* large boxes or chests 02:37 K2: Intriguing. 02:37 so they won't bring the Castle wand to you any more? 02:37 nerp 02:38 Ah, was that the reason why? 02:38 no 02:38 More so that it doesn't make sense for them to walk off with stuff they don't know the contents of 02:38 or can get into 02:38 (also you might atom smash the wand chest by acccident) 02:39 Granted that's not AS likely if you're aware, but 02:40 Andrio: I find that mind flayers aren't that big a deal once you're a high powered monk. 02:44 Disarmed all but 2 of the landmines (accidentally set those two off). Fort Ludios is a bit tedious. 02:44 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 02:44 I thought gremlins only multiplied at night!? 02:44 Lol no, they steal intrinsics at night 02:44 They multiply on contact with water 02:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 357 points, T:1647, killed by a bat 02:44 Lovely. 02:45 The whole right half of teh map is now gremlins! 02:45 ...castle? 02:45 Or unlucky spawn placement for them? 02:45 Fort Ludios, still. Unlucky, I guess. And they're *peaceful*. 02:46 F 02:46 Hey kids! 3g is for genocide! 02:46 Have your pet do the dirty work then 02:46 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:16153 02:51 Heh. Shattered 27 statures in a single zap of striking. 02:52 Erm - miscounted. 26. Still, insane. :D 02:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "elf", on T:3225 03:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3416 03:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9076 03:06 killed my first ROUS 03:06 (so they do exist!) 03:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2860 points, T:4604, killed by a dwarf lord 03:12 I miss the devteam's office. :( 03:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] andvare (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:2107 03:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3043 03:22 Woah, that was a bit tense... Was forced to melee a genetic engineer (really, a chameleon) 03:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] andvare (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1767 points, T:2379, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 03:24 gene engie chams, that's evil 03:24 (but not Evil) 03:27 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 03:36 I've just realised, I've been able to fight well as a monk wearing armour - missing occasionally - without wearing GoD. 03:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 478 points, T:935, killed by a dwarf 03:37 Yeah, high/max luck compensates for a majority of the cons 03:37 Definitely maxed luck. 03:38 Hmm, another throne genocide. I think I'll genocide genetic engineers. 03:38 Hate them. 03:38 Rare, but super bad in melee. 03:38 >bag drops from a winter wolf cub fight 03:38 >loot it 03:38 >it bites me 03:38 :/ 03:38 Umbire: Tricked! ;) 03:39 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided genetic engineers, on T:31606 03:39 More annoyed that I thought I had an actual bag to hold shit it 03:39 in* 03:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 415 points, T:1541, killed by a water moccasin 03:42 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 03:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 421 points, T:747, killed by a rabid rat 03:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:55904 03:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:55904 03:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3370 03:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3396 03:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3499 03:59 Woah!? I fought a lich, and hte lich was able to disintegrate my shield? (My only source of reflection) 03:59 I thought they couldnd't do that until the castle. 03:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3507 04:02 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:03 That's the destroy armor spell 04:03 So uh, what kinda luch 04:03 lich* 04:03 "Lich". 04:04 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 04:04 That's a spell they all have from XL9 on 04:05 Ah, interesting. 04:05 You just thought it didn't happen until the castle because you normally don't SEE them until the castle 04:05 Is my guess 04:05 I'm going to try and get to the castle... Without MR. And yeah, I rarely see them until the castle, indeed. 04:05 No MR and No reflection now. 04:05 Anyway Sokoban's done, just had to do shenanigans because I accidentally buried a wand 04:06 Also still not enough XL for the quest eh? 04:07 No. :( 04:07 But very nearly. 04:07 Xp:13/73708 04:07 is it new that dgl starts a new game instead of restoring a hung-up one? 04:08 6300 to go roughly 04:08 A trip to the castle should do the job provided things fall in your favor 04:08 I wonder if I get to choose when it is autosaved 04:08 Umbire: That's what I'm hoping. I'm actually hoping to get the wand _before_ the artifacts appear. 04:08 If you're trying to restore a hung-up game you might have to ask K2 or Tangs 04:09 The artifacts are low chance RNG, if it happens it happens 04:09 I'd worry more about not dying 04:10 My weakest point is no MR, second weakest poitn is no reflection. :( 04:10 joes what happened 04:10 Oh noooooooo 04:10 Fucking gray fungus 04:10 I have projectiles but this is the worst possible time 04:11 brb 04:11 oh hi. My network disconnected, and when I logged in again, it asked me for role and such. Old game still shows as running 04:11 * not any more 04:11 ah ok. so if an admin isnt around to recover it, dgl will auto-save a disconnected game after 30 min 04:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered Benny, her faithful little dog, on T:3269 04:12 Yeah, don't start that new game just yet 04:12 which game joes? 04:12 k2: then what happens if I save a new game before the timeout? 04:12 * arahael looks at p0werm0de with disapproval and disappointment. 04:12 k2: 3.7 on eu 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:56792 04:12 new game? that can be a problem :) 04:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3598 04:13 I'm afraid of looking ;-) 04:14 "You hear someone jump into a saddle." 04:14 o: 04:14 but there can still be only one savefile, right? 04:14 Did it give you a prompt about destroying the old save? 04:14 when you didnt wait and started a new game, it went to newer version of 370-hdf 04:15 your older 370-hdf auto-recovered, i see it 04:15 how far did you go in that new game? 04:15 ooooooooooooooooh 04:16 I see, the update 04:16 Neat, bugle and some rations 04:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4092 04:17 joes 04:17 how far did you go in that new game? 04:17 new game is T:1, old one mines 04:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4240 04:18 so did today's version break save compat? 04:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 9 throwing stars on an altar, on T:4248 04:19 ugh, fucking gelatinous cub e in the area 04:19 technically yes but that doesnt affect you 04:19 if you're not attached to the turn 1 game, i can kill it. when you fire up 370-hdf again you'll load the game you timed out on 04:20 what do you want to do? 04:21 yeah, that's fine 04:21 ok done 04:21 load up 370-hdf 04:21 should be your mines game 04:21 thanks 04:21 it's there 04:22 awesome 04:22 its 4:22am here soooo... gnite :) 04:22 Oh cool, wood golems drop random wooden items now 04:24 ...did that orc shaman just mount a unicorn 04:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 835 points, T:2363, killed by an uninjured giant bat 04:26 nymph riding a centaur 04:27 damn forest creatures aligning against me now 04:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 6501 points, T:5015, killed by a dwarf 04:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:58815 04:31 brb 04:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:46 Hmm? I'm wearing red dragon scales... Yet, when I set a trap off, my boots smouldered? 04:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 98 points, T:516, killed by an uninjured goblin 04:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:5 04:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 3772 points, T:4819, killed by a lizard 04:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered Benny, her faithful little dog, on T:624 04:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 333 points, T:858, killed by a slightly wounded gnome lord 04:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:60371 04:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:10008 05:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 17250 points, T:10106, killed by a water troll 05:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3442 points, T:1737, killed by a gnome king 05:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 311961 points, T:34705, petrified by Medusa 05:09 So sad. :( Went upstairs from castle... I suspected it was the castle, there's a fairly distinctive maze in the castle level (I had fallen down a hole). Completely forgot that the upstairs might be Medusa. 05:10 Very much a YASD> 05:12 R.I.P. (done the same mistake ;_;) 05:14 It was a slightly frustrating game having not gotten any MR the whole time - and the only reflection was a huge shield that got disintegrated. 05:14 on the upside, if you ever uncomment the # in front of "blind" in options, thats one mistake you cannot make ^______^ 05:14 Haha. 05:15 It's actually the first tiem I made that mistake - because usually I see the huge level of water and go "woah", but I didn't see any water this time. 05:15 And medusa is the same colour as that damned elf I was chasing. :( 05:16 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:16 bloody holes, I've heard that they sometimes go as deep as 6-9 levels :O 05:16 Right. 05:16 Guten abend LarienTelrunya =) 05:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3627 05:17 hi there NAOrsa, here in germany it's 11 in the morning ;) 05:17 Guten Morgen! 05:17 happy boxing day to you! remember to keep your cover up and wait for the opportunity to use your right hook :D 05:17 did you receive any shoes for christmaspresent LarienTelrunya? may I inquire? <3 05:18 haha, no shoes but some absolutely gorgeous nail polish ♥♥♥ 05:18 :D 05:18 oh and a shoes calendar :) 05:20 is it made of shoes O_o 05:20 or just pictures of boots? :) 05:20 pictures, it's a page-a-day calendar ♥ 05:21 yo 05:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1822 points, T:4069, killed by a wounded rothe 05:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1166 05:22 aoei! *wuschelbüschel* ♥ do you want to engage in a virtual boxing match with me? 05:22 I've started to use iPhone for calendar, but now they have developed the memo application too far, and its unusable.. :( I should go back to paperback calendar as well 05:22 Moleskin or sumthin... 05:22 erm 05:22 nah 05:22 sorry 05:22 i can bundle yo tho 05:22 * aoei bundles amy 05:23 * LarienTelrunya hangs her bundle into aoei's face :D (right now I have a "hedgehog bundle" that feels very lovely!) 05:23 cool 05:24 !tell k2 I had a saved game in nh370 but it seems to have disappeared 05:24 Will do, oh6! 05:24 oh also aoei, you may consider this to be my christmas present to you (WARNING: potentially NSFW): https://www.wattpad.com/979924160-%27best-of%27-passages-by-amy-cute-emma :D 05:25 oic 05:25 *clicc* 05:33 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:39540 05:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1608 05:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:39787 05:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:62168 05:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3713 05:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4484 05:51 <@Umby> Arahael: Late but it gives fire resistance, not fireproofing. 05:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2758 points, T:4598, killed by a wounded orc-captain 05:53 rld: Ah, I see. 05:53 <@Umby> @umbire should tag lol 05:53 <@Umby> K2 still around? 05:53 i would guess he's sleeping 05:53 <@luxidream> no it's 5 am in the states 05:53 but lux is up anyway ha 05:54 lux: did you see we also have version filtered RT boards now :3 05:54 <@luxidream> 🤔 05:54 https://nethackscoreboard.org/realtime.nh34x.html por example 05:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3011 05:54 <@luxidream> cool, how do I access them without the link? 05:55 for now you have to go to the main realtime page and then edit the URL 05:55 by added 34x, 36x or 37x after nh 05:55 adding* 05:55 i will add clickable links eventually 05:56 36x seems to be literally just you and SWAGGINZZZ lol 05:56 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Estyn's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2747 05:56 https://nethackscoreboard.org/realtime.nh36x.html 05:56 I thought you were going to scum that version! 05:57 you thought who was gonna what now arahael? 05:58 aoei: Speedrun scumming, you said you wanted to do that on 3.6, and were considering doing it on the nethack.alt.org servers - though I realise you probably haven't had the opportunity or have since changed your mind about it. 06:00 <@luxidream> oh no scumming 06:00 <@luxidream> how scandalous 06:02 arahael: oh yeah im definitely scumming on there 06:02 i just was confused becasue that'll be for minturns 06:02 and we're talking realtime boards now 06:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:03 Ah. 06:04 In any case, g'night. Take care, you all! 06:04 luxidream: I'm gonna add clickable links and also add minor versions as possible filters, but I'm not very satisfied with the implementation 06:04 arahael: night! 06:04 <@luxidream> once you can search for runs I don't think it's a huge issue 06:05 I want a proper webapp that gives you a drop-down menu with possible version filters 06:05 and then you click that 06:06 right now im just hard-coding stuff and generating static html pages and i hate it 06:06 hard-coding for vanilla is fine but i can't be bothered to do that for variants 06:07 another implementation would be more easily extendable to variants 06:07 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:07 I also don't want everyone to have to rely on custom search, I want some standard pages that are simple and easy to use 06:07 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:08 plus a custom search for fancy shit 06:08 damn dude, you also have a wishless game with 2h 21min rofl 06:09 oh and another with 2:15:28 06:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 241 points, T:622, killed by a wounded coyote 06:10 <@p0werm0de> https://www.speedrun.com/requestgame?series= 06:10 <@p0werm0de> setup nethack here 06:10 no :C 06:11 <@p0werm0de> before someone random does 06:11 nhs for the win 06:11 !lastgame 06:11 Tangles: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Estyn/nethack/dumplog/1608974755.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/p0werm0de/nethack/dumplog/1608978508.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/nethack/dumplog/1608871179.nh.html 06:11 j/k competition is good 06:11 <@p0werm0de> thing is if you request youll be main moderator and can control what happens there 06:12 <@p0werm0de> and def get some advertisement for nethack overall 06:12 interesting 06:12 <@luxidream> who should be moderator? 06:12 i vote me 06:12 im making an account 06:13 <@p0werm0de> makes sense if you also do leaderboards 06:14 <@p0werm0de> site also was bought recently and might get changes towards more professional 06:15 ok I have to wait 7 days before I can request it 06:15 so if anyone already *has* an account they can step in 06:15 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 06:15 I don't *have* to control nethack on speedrun.com and the NHS lol 06:16 <@luxidream> should be someone who speedruns 06:16 are you saying you wanna do it lux 06:16 <@p0werm0de> you can add more moderators easily afterwards 06:16 <@luxidream> No I don’t have an account 06:17 <@p0werm0de> also make account to submit your runs 06:17 <@p0werm0de> :> 06:17 <@luxidream> Oh yeah good point 06:17 * aoei is not much of a speedrunner *yet* 06:17 she's working on it! 06:17 <@p0werm0de> while moderator also can do it 06:17 someone remind me in 7 days to request nethack plox 06:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:66726 06:18 * aoei goes back to hacking the scoreboard 06:20 <@luxidream> Wait I have an account 06:21 <@p0werm0de> i just logged in and had to recover PW 06:21 <@p0werm0de> bcz as said it changed ownership 06:22 lux if you request it can i be your co-moderator 06:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1634 points, T:3016, killed by a black unicorn 06:26 <@luxidream> ok 06:26 <@luxidream> I’ll submit before I go to sleep 06:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:67773 06:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 106 points, T:586, killed by an uninjured water demon 06:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:42621 06:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 377 points, T:1026, killed by a wounded gnome 06:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Burglar, on T:68136 06:35 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:36 nice 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 744 points, T:2576, killed by a wounded werejackal, while fainted from lack of food 06:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 128 points, T:778, killed by a wounded goblin 06:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43242 06:48 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3573 06:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3137 points, T:3683, killed by a heavily wounded owlbear, while praying 06:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 321 points, T:1160, killed by an uninjured werejackal 06:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 16 points, T:40, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 06:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1263 points, T:2784, killed by a slightly wounded rothe 07:07 wut 07:08 wounds patch in vanilla, and a completely wacky implementation to boot??? 07:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:18976 07:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 493 points, T:2213, killed by a nearly defunct manes 07:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1986 07:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5344 07:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 295 points, T:2121, killed by a wounded giant rat 07:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3343 points, T:2503, killed by an uninjured pony 07:27 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) genocided arch-liches, on T:19527 07:27 Phew, finally I can return to level 6 07:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 826 points, T:1710, killed by a giant spider 07:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 243 points, T:651, killed by an arrow 07:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:1045 07:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 301 points, T:1205, killed by a wounded coyote 07:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 110 points, T:39, killed by a wand 07:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 1824 points, T:737, killed by a rothe 07:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3727 07:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1047 07:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:1058 07:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3851 07:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1890 points, T:3917, poisoned by an orcish arrow 07:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 96 points, T:411, killed by contaminated water 07:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:1893 07:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1111 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:21920 08:01 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6351 08:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 993 points, T:1296, killed by a crossbow bolt 08:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:8025 08:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "elf", on T:8121 08:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:10918 08:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2234 points, T:10921, quit 08:10 get trollsbane 08:10 d 08:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:22379 08:15 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:19 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:6590 08:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1848 points, T:3186, poisoned by a killer bee 08:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:32635 08:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3634 08:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3684 08:34 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 08:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3718 08:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 13791 points, T:12435, killed by a giant mummy 08:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4075 08:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:44409 08:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:26733 08:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7867 08:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Fem Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:45243 08:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4091 09:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 10542 points, T:8465, killed by an uninjured mumak 09:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Fem Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:45647 09:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Fem Law) became the Arm of the Law, on T:45679 09:23 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 09:28 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed Mother Hydra, on T:46669 09:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed Father Dagon, on T:46683 09:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 27024 points, T:9641, killed by a gnome king 09:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:291, zapped herself with a spell 09:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "elf", on T:3376 09:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3386 09:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3403 09:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1814 points, T:3538, killed by a slightly wounded water moccasin 09:58 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:58 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:3050 10:02 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 10:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2138 10:07 YANI: Certain high-level spells require you to have a certain skill level in its school to cast it. E.g. create familiar can't be cast if you aren't Skilled (Basic?) in clerical spells, no matter how much you improve its success rate. 10:08 isn't the success rate for such high-level spells always 0% with low skill in vanilla anyway? 10:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3204 points, T:2362, killed by an uninjured wolf 10:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3900 10:10 <@p0werm0de> dang first magic lamp in ages and i die blind 10:10 <@p0werm0de> !lastgame p0werm0de 10:10 @p0werm0de: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/p0werm0de/nethack/dumplog/1608994371.nh.html 10:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65049 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4186 10:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:65125 10:16 -!- Kontroll1r has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:18 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3758 points, T:6852, killed by a dog 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful snake, on T:4462 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1865 points, T:4463, quit 10:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:34957 10:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:34957 10:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:65381 10:27 YANI: Have a stable in the knight home level with a couple peaceful saddled horses (ponies?) in it, which can be an emergency backup source of saddles/mounts 10:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was given Magicbane, on T:9030 10:28 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 10:28 -!- sebastiantoby is now known as Kontroller 10:29 -!- Kontroller is now known as sebastiantoby 10:30 -!- sebastiantoby is now known as Kontroller 10:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3392 10:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 700 points, T:31798, killed by a Woodland-elf 10:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was given Trollsbane, on T:10282 10:34 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 10:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:66196 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 159 points, T:222, killed by an uninjured fox 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4793 10:47 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3076 10:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:66407 10:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44659 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Hum Mal Law) murdered Punkin, his faithful kitten, on T:311 10:55 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 10:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4014 10:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2452 points, T:4181, killed by a wounded soldier ant 10:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:66497 10:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:66535 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1450 10:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2004 points, T:2352, killed by a bugbear 11:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:66574 11:01 -!- krm26_ has joined #hardfought 11:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 363 points, T:1075, killed by a wounded dwarf 11:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 8 points, T:61, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 11:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha), 5624150 points, T:66628, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo2/dnethack/dumplog/1608836147.dnh.txt 11:04 !tell oh6 good to go now, typo on my end when setting up paths for new 370-hdf version 11:04 K2: Message from oh6 at 2020-12-26 05:24 EST: I had a saved game in nh370 but it seems to have disappeared 11:04 Will do, K2! 11:04 <@p0werm0de> gg 11:04 gratz Demo! 11:05 woot grats Demo 11:05 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:06 <{Demo}> now whoever ascends the first real hlf nob mal once it gets added properly won't have actually 11:06 ah you did it for evil reasons 11:06 {Demo}: ascend a slex noble :P 11:06 <{Demo}> well amateurhour, it isn't impossible I'll be at the end of my own barrel on that one 11:07 haha 11:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "an uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:44815 11:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:44818 11:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was given Fire Brand, on T:15232 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:3, killed by a falling object 11:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Pir Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1300 11:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:44936 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4573 points, T:2497, killed by a wounded white unicorn 11:16 -!- krm26__ has joined #hardfought 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:28, killed by an uninjured water demon 11:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:44946 11:20 -!- krm26_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 197 points, T:282, killed by an uninjured sewer rat 11:24 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 11:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:44990 11:29 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42892 11:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42902 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6021 points, T:5720, killed by a fire vortex 11:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "a blessed scroll of blank paper called happy holidays tnnt!", on T:45059 11:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1845484 points, T:45059, ascended 11:37 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Glord/nethack/dumplog/1608679714.nh.html 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 645 points, T:830, killed by an uninjured gnome, while helpless 11:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6379 points, T:3226, killed by a dart trap 11:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:42921 11:43 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:18602 11:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Burglar, on T:43033 11:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 100 points, T:425, killed by an uninjured giant mimic 11:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:43146 11:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:43150 11:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:3133 11:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4091 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:34742 11:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3277 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Spelunker, on T:70587 12:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3943 12:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4864 12:12 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6386 12:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Filcher, on T:44450 12:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed Daemon, on T:48995 12:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6614 12:20 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed Glasya, on T:49092 12:20 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:28437 12:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 4076 points, T:6655, killed by a wounded orc-captain, while praying 12:22 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 12:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:44879 12:25 no levitation, but I do have poly and poly control rings. MMF fly, right? 12:25 <@p0werm0de> j a b b e r w o c k 12:28 that might be fun, but I can't wear my MR cloak as a jabberwock because they're huge? 12:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:8813 12:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:45023 12:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 315 points, T:786, killed by a wounded dwarf 12:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:45036 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:35168 12:33 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat (black naga) for the first time, on T:35277 12:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) was given Cleaver, on T:10107 12:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:821 12:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) was given the Silence Glaive, on T:10172 12:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3057074 points, T:45065, ascended 12:36 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zhakupov/nethack/dumplog/1606655463.nh.html 12:38 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:45 congrats zhakupov 12:46 thanks! 12:46 gratz!! 12:46 grats zhakupov 12:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49942 12:47 Good job! 12:48 zhakupov: what does the level 45 annotation mean ("CANCEL")? 12:48 Was there a wand of cancellation there? 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5428 12:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:35219 12:49 qt: correct 12:50 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 12:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3237 12:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:50058 12:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Bar Hlf Mal Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:13277 12:53 I can't remember, can monsters zap cancellation at you in 3.7? 12:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:50127 12:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed Bael, on T:50137 12:54 no 12:55 and thank the gods for that 12:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3834 12:57 for some reason i thought this was considered 12:58 It is included in mbhitm so if it were added to find_offensive it would work I think 12:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:35399 13:00 you haven't lived until a monster cancels your boh and then summons nasties 13:00 qt, there are some variants where a monster will use a wand of cancellation offensively 13:01 grunthack, evilhack 13:01 the only two i think. spork doesn't iirc 13:01 sporkhack does not 13:01 "Dagul wields a blessed morning star named Trollsbane!" at least someone's happy... 13:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4505 13:03 hothraxxa: a cancelled boh is not a huge problem 13:03 a cancelled set of formerly +5 armor is 13:03 it is when you're surrounded by nasties 13:03 been there done that 13:03 if the buigger gets in a curse on that boh you're royally fucked so you have to fix iut asap 13:04 ^ that 13:04 unless the EPI were implemented where canceling a boh turns it into a sack. then it would suck, but still not as much long term as losing all your enchantments 13:04 also been there done that 13:04 seriously i have been there. you are underestimating the seriousness 13:04 seriously 13:04 hothraxxa, aosdict hasnt really played grunthack or evilhack all the way through. he doesnt know 13:04 I must seriously be underestimating it 13:05 I got statued when I got burdened, not enough time to eat lizard 13:05 K2: excuse me I have ascended grunthack multiple times 13:05 having your weapons cancelled is more of a concern than armor imo 13:05 you are at enormous risk once that happens even if you have an emergency bag you can #tip 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:76398 13:05 aosdict: then you must have brain dumped the experience :) or just got really lucky 13:05 i suspect it hasn't happened to him 13:06 I think blessed genocide should genocide items instead of monsters (bullwhip, wand of cancellation :-) 13:06 monsters can hit you with a wand of cancellation in splicehack too 13:06 i've had a few grunthack games where i didnt get cancelled to hell and back 13:06 krm26__ lol 13:06 me too, but it's more common that you get cancelled a lot 13:06 K2: I've been slapped down by cancellation my fair share of times in grunt too 13:06 And the ring of warning should mark anything with a wand of cancellation as a 6 13:07 hell lets go for 7 just cuz 13:07 probably not in the somewhat rare case of it hitting a boh and then something immediately summons nasties? 13:07 it's when you sense magical energies being absorbed and you can't see what got cancelled 13:07 (warning should definitely take equipment into account) 13:07 wait in evilhack does monster hitting you with cancellation cancel your inventory? 13:07 Could be really simple, just a few items worth +1 or +2 13:07 I like fiqhack cancellation 13:07 qt: it will cancel some items in inventory yes 13:07 cancels *you* but not your gear, and it's a really bad status 13:08 Yeah, yet more mandatory potions to carry 13:08 interesting, I think spl just uses the default cancel_monst from vanilla that will not cancel inventory unless you zap yourself 13:08 krm26__: what i was getting at is that it will hit wands and if you haven't formally ided them you won't know 13:08 yup prob so 13:08 but will turn you back to human if you are polymorphed etc 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:76608 13:09 anyway be back later, I have to run an errand for a while 13:09 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 13:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:51521 13:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1310 13:11 K2: Zombies eating skills was an excellent change 13:11 thanks 13:11 BUT, should also be able to eat learned spells 13:11 oooh hah 13:12 they should eat off a limb so u cant twoweapon till u poly into a new human or whatever 13:12 well boys, gals and enby pals 13:12 the zombie eats your brain! the zombie learns 'finger of death' spell! 13:12 >:) 13:12 Oooo 13:12 I give you: version filtering for NetHack gametime and realtime leaderboards: https://nethackscoreboard.org/gametime.nh.html https://nethackscoreboard.org/realtime.nh.html 13:12 * aosdict resets the "days since someone talked about a limb system in nethack" counter 13:13 nice one aoei 13:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:6179 13:13 One of the boring undead categories (spectre?) should steal and use spell knowledge, great idea 13:13 with clickable links etc. 13:13 * amateurhour resets the days since someone asked for the yanis page to be updated counter prematurely 13:13 can the yanis page be updated? <3 13:13 amateurhour: I'm actually working on that now 13:13 four month backlog 13:13 ooh 13:13 :o 13:13 woot! 13:13 yeeeeah! 13:14 nice aoei 13:14 K2: was aoei's post-op save file good to go 13:14 i havent uploaded it yet 13:14 Is there a place that lists everything nethackscoreboard tracks? I have a direct link to first combo ascensions, for example, but couldn't find it from the main page (might just be drinking too much tho) 13:14 someone submitted a fix for xnh for that 13:15 krm26__: the category leaderboards *should* all have front-page links 13:15 https://nethackscoreboard.org/about.html 13:15 K2: omg what 13:15 and yeah there's the about page for which servers are tracked 13:15 I was gonna write this off as "I have no idea how to reproduce it" 13:15 issue #20 13:15 aosdict: I thought you told me you did repro it 13:15 typical xnh bug cycle :^) 13:15 err 13:15 pr #20 13:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed joes' ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1432 13:16 who submitted the pr? 13:16 yvt 13:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4206 13:16 then someone just comes up and submits a professional bug report out of the blue 13:16 not even anyone I (think) I know like qt 13:16 you didnt know til now? heh 13:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4291 13:17 do you not just stare at the issues and PRs pages spamming f5 all day? :S 13:17 aoei: I reproduced the crash in your save, and found that flags.inv_order was getting clobbered by something, but that didn't tell me what was clobbering it in the first place 13:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:51688 13:17 aosdict: ah yeah i see 13:17 amateurhour: no, I usually spend my days doing that, but I happened to be updating the archive yesterday so I didn't 13:17 Well, blowing up my bags of holding and having a monster polymorph my and all my decent equipment only set me back 15,000 turns 13:18 amateurhour: i assumed that is all that anybody ever does 13:18 sadly I rarely get PRs or issues submitted to the NHS :( 13:18 my f5 finger gets sore by days end 13:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Pestilence, on T:51724 13:18 sometimes when I'm feeling adventurous I go to my wiki talk page and spam f5 on that 13:18 aosdict: :o 13:18 bold! 13:20 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: zhakupov] 13:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Armok, on T:51751 13:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Death, on T:51768 13:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:51781 13:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:28388 13:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) wished for "10000 blessed potions of booze named goodbye 3.19.1", on T:51785 13:22 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:22 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed +4000 fixed magic marker", on T:51786 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:655 13:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed +7 fixed iron bar named wishes are scarce in dnh now", on T:51787 13:24 why can't my level 14 knight with wis 18 and basic attack and not wearing metal not even cast force bolt with 100% success? 13:24 idk but there is a formula for that 13:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed +7 greased athame named 2/3 high priests dead", on T:51789 13:25 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 13:25 What happened on turn 51788? 13:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed -2 knife named dnhbane", on T:51791 13:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Nob Dwa Fem Law), 5558977 points, T:51792, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Demo/dnethack/dumplog/1597593802.dnh.txt 13:26 <{Demo}> had to drop the iron bar 13:26 <{Demo}> burdened me 13:26 and turn 51790 13:26 <{Demo}> had to bless lamp 13:26 You are SO unprepared 13:26 Grats! 13:26 aoei I'm staring at the formula 13:26 <{Demo}> that's 2 dnh ascs today :D 13:26 gratz Demo 13:26 wait did Demo just ascend twice today 13:26 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] sohlman (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1174 13:26 nice 13:27 grats 13:27 <{Demo}> yeah that game i just wrapped up was abandoned months ago 13:27 the one just now or the one earlier 13:27 either way tho, nice 13:27 <{Demo}> one just now 13:27 ah 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:78096 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 392 points, T:1744, killed by an uninjured gnome king 13:30 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:30 Ugh, why do all my pets always polymorph into trappers 13:31 So much for that 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1281 13:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:10919 13:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo4 (Pir Inc Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed spellbook of identify", on T:22382 13:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Filcher, on T:79198 13:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:11660 13:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3210 13:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] AlbertB (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3488 points, T:3605, killed by a bolt of fire 13:47 krm26: RNG heard that you hate losing pets to digestion, took pity 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:79445 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:79446 13:48 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 13:49 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:49 Heh...trappers seem to be a dead end, presumably because they are crawling around on the ceiling so will never trip the polymorph trap when I whistle them in 13:50 really?? 13:50 I mean, I believe you. 13:50 Well, my empirical evidence is only about 5 attempts long 13:50 And I haven't source dove it 13:51 their slowness might also play a role 13:51 You mean I might have to whistle them in on a turn they get to move? 13:51 * tinklebear wonders how that works with sessile forms 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:41666 13:55 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:32051 14:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:14847 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Magician, on T:8153 14:03 !who 14:03 K2: [hdf-us] karibou [evil] krm26 [evil] oh6 [nh370] Karnac [nh370] Alex [nh370] sohlman [nh370] Thidwick [un] Demo4 [dnh] | [hdf-eu] spontiff [nh370] elenmirie [nh370] | [hdf-au] No current players 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh13d] demo69 (Wiz Mal), 50 points, T:14, homunculus 14:05 xNetHack updated (all servers) 14:05 ^ bugfixes 14:05 aoei try yo game foo 14:05 I pity the bar 14:05 ... hahahahahah 14:05 brilliant 14:06 <@p0werm0de> dang why do i get sting *rage 14:06 <@p0werm0de> how much is the odds if i have 2 artefacts generated to get a specific from wish 14:07 its 50/50 either u get it or u dont 14:07 for real though it's like 2/3 14:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed for the first time, on T:9233 14:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful large cat, on T:9233 14:07 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wish#Artifact_wishing 14:08 <@p0werm0de> kk 14:08 <@p0werm0de> i wanna get storm vampire sword need wish soon 14:08 <@p0werm0de> also do i have chances getting cursed unicorn horn if i dip it in fountains 14:08 <@p0werm0de> i had to kill alrdy 20ish water demons 14:09 <@p0werm0de> and that orcrist sword really aint a dream at +0 14:10 <@p0werm0de> ah damn i shouldve read 14:10 <@p0werm0de> and name that thing before saccing 14:10 <@p0werm0de> ooph major fail 14:11 K2: k, will do 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] sohlman (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6570 points, T:2421, killed by a wounded soldier 14:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:15918 14:19 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo4 (Pir Inc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25107 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4993 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:5034 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:5124 14:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Mal Law), 364 points, T:984, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 14:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:20149 14:28 <@p0werm0de> aye ok got it from crown or we 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6021 14:39 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 14:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1505 14:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1127 points, T:1618, killed by a slightly wounded soldier ant 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6922 14:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a small shield entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:35572 14:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:23281 15:01 I love getting the "less hassled" message 15:04 krm26__: what do those mean? 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had a knife entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:33275 15:05 When you lock a zombie in a box and it comes back to life 15:05 and perishes in its confinement? 15:05 Yup 15:05 ah. cool. 15:05 Ugh, Ishtar is every bit as stupid as Crom. Thanks for the knife 15:06 can do it with trolls as well of course 15:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo4 (Pir Inc Fem Cha) killed Shelob, on T:28366 15:06 that's what I tend to do with trolls in throne rooms 15:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15747 15:07 I like to drop them down holes for future me -- f*ck that guy 15:07 What has he ever done for me 15:07 so selfish, that guy 15:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo4 (Pir Inc Fem Cha) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:28828 15:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo4 (Pir Inc Fem Cha) killed Lungorthin, on T:29048 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:7579 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:7634 15:25 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 15:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:36066 15:28 bye bye alhoon 15:28 The one true genocide 15:29 It is only more rewarding when you do it while a shapechanger is an alhoon 15:29 <{Demo}> you should play dnh where alhoons arent genocidable 15:29 <{Demo}> or random poly forms or randomly generating :) 15:30 not sure, but I think evilhack alhoon is a lot worse 15:30 yeah 15:30 there's only two alhoons in dnh and they're fine 15:30 <{Demo}> 3 15:30 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:30 <{Demo}> 3? 15:30 <{Demo}> 2 15:30 <{Demo}> bleh they keep moving around version to version 15:30 <{Demo}> i forget 15:31 there's two, the other key is from centre of all 15:32 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:33 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Madonna, her faithful kitten, on T:26 15:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 111658 points, T:17673, killed by a lightning paraelemental 15:37 !lastgame Vis 15:37 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/V/Vis/dnethack/dumplog/1536429901.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/V/Vis/dnethack/dumplog/1608988947.dnh.txt 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 30645 points, T:8437, killed by an energy vortex 15:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Nob Hlf Mal Neu), 2732 points, T:2149, killed by a crocodile 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 189941 points, T:43046, killed by Kathryn the Ice Queen 15:46 <@nabru> !lastgame karibou 15:46 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/karibou/evilhack/dumplog/1608688984.evil.html 15:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1500 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 102 points, T:453, killed by a giant mimic 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 33 points, T:153, killed by a boulder 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:9331 15:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1090 points, T:1618, killed by an uninjured imp 15:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1760 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] Helios (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1383 16:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 70088 points, T:25864, choked on a tin of floating eye meat 16:07 <@p0werm0de> death number 1 choke on food lategame 16:08 <@p0werm0de> great 16:08 ouch 16:09 it's a lesson learned the hard way innit :/ 16:09 <@p0werm0de> this the 3rd time at least im a slow learner 16:09 * tinklebear knows the feeling 16:09 hey i've also done it more than once 16:09 <@p0werm0de> with slow digestation ring 16:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1768 16:10 p0werm0de: during tnnt I did it once in vlad's tower 16:10 and once at castle (with the Amulet) 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1538 16:10 rofl 16:10 <@p0werm0de> yeye 16:10 <@p0werm0de> >: 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10529 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:10545 16:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the Necromancer, on T:31507 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1059 points, T:1981, killed by an uninjured dwarf 16:15 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "very holy historic thoroughly diluted fixed rustproof very +5 polished silver shield named send that shit back where it came from", on T:51331 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a bugbear, on T:5030 16:19 <@the_eternal_paradox> ah yes exactly what SoR should be doing 16:19 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:34800 16:22 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34836 16:26 i made that wish just in time. i have no mr and about 150 turns later a stone giant zapped a waqnd of death at me 16:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 16:30 !rng a christmas story | xNetHack 16:30 aoei: a christmas story 16:30 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 16:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Sharpshooter, on T:59103 16:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:4217 16:31 <{Demo}> idk what that is 16:32 its supposedly a classic movie 16:32 dtype insisted i must watch it 16:32 yes 16:32 <{Demo}> oh ive been made to watch that 16:32 <{Demo}> its not christmas anymore 16:32 darn I was hoping it was a special christmas nethack variant, alas 16:33 <{Demo}> so idk what christmas is 16:33 aoei was slow 16:33 today is the second day of christmas 16:33 so it's fine 16:36 <{Demo}> !role 16:36 {Demo}: dnethack rogue 16:36 <{Demo}> now i have to cause it said dnethack 16:36 <{Demo}> !race 16:36 {Demo}: tnnt orc 16:36 !role 16:36 aoei: slex healer 16:36 dear santa, for christmas I want the devteam to uncomment the "partridge in a pear tree" message 16:36 oh god no 16:36 aosdict: seconded 16:36 !variant 16:36 amateurhour: sporkhack 16:37 !goat 16:37 Beholder's goat runs up and headbutts elenmirie__ in the arse! Baaaaaa! 16:37 aoei: why not? healer is a pretty powerful role in slex *büschelbüschelbüschel* :D 16:37 <{Demo}> does nao support starting game autoadjust? 16:37 <{Demo}> so when i start my healer, stethoscope is on c 16:37 <{Demo}> or my rogue, lockpick is on q and sakc is on N 16:37 yeah but your game is awful amy 16:37 awwwww :( but why? 16:37 its too unpredictable and mean 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh343] Helios (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 14023 points, T:5038, killed by a gnome king 16:40 <{Demo}> shit orc rogue is hard 16:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 298 points, T:897, killed by a carnivorous bag 16:41 <{Demo}> fuck you 16:41 i mean 16:41 it's better than human rogue 16:42 Carnivorous bag? Awesome! 16:43 meat sack, meet meat-eating sack 16:44 you can be the snack 16:45 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 16:47 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:52777 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2731 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1762 points, T:3102, killed by an uninjured soldier ant 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:11308 17:07 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 17:07 hi 17:07 Hello bug_sniper, Welcome to #hardfought 17:07 K2, aosdict: crashed again :/ 17:07 this time when trying to loot a chest 17:07 hi 17:07 Hello amateurhour, Welcome to #hardfought 17:07 ok 17:07 i will play vanilla instead lol 17:07 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:07 backtrace? 17:08 <{Demo}> !role 17:08 {Demo}: fiqhack valkyrie 17:08 <{Demo}> no 17:08 <{Demo}> !race 17:08 {Demo}: xnethack elf 17:08 it was probably a superchest containing a glorkum :P (just kidding!) 17:08 LarienTelrunya, I see you added a lot of stuff I was thinking about 17:08 aoei game is recovered, dont load it just yet 17:08 like glorkums as a monster 17:08 ill leave it K2 17:08 bug_sniper: oh those were your suggestion? 17:08 im playing nh370 now 17:09 no, but I was thinking of the dungeonmade food 17:09 aoei: were you particularly into this game? because there may have been something else clobbered that I didn't fix right 17:09 that would affect only your save 17:09 and i kinda expected glorkums to become a monster 17:09 they're also a playable race now :D 17:10 aosdict: eh 17:10 * aoei shrugs 17:10 20 mins and 2k turns, luckstone get and back to main dungeon 17:10 which was pretty good going but definitely can do that again 17:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 189 points, T:786, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 17:12 huh an uninjured one 17:12 never seen that death message before 17:13 new 3.7 thing or have I been brain-sleeping 17:13 K2: any backtrace from aoei? 17:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Brigand, on T:36702 17:13 new 3.7 thing 17:13 they implemented the wounds patch but wonkily 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:61216 17:13 good thing junethack isn't running right now because it would be unique deaths times like 5 or 6 17:14 Nothing a little regex can't fix 17:15 LarienTelrunya, what's an elite gendgame and the "your game ends now"? 17:15 aosdict: thanks for saying basically what I said earlier, i.e. that the implementation of wounds patch in "vanilla" is wonky :D 17:15 bug_sniper: huh?! are you playing right now? 17:15 !whereis bugsniper 17:15 LarienTelrunya: bugsniper is not playing. 17:15 LarienTelrunya: actually I was just paraphrasing what you said earlier 17:15 no, just looking at the commits 17:16 well, a "your game ends now" is a high-level ubermonster that will kill you, and I guess you want a monster named "elite gendgame" that does something similar? :D 17:17 aosdict: :D 17:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 292 points, T:1323, poisoned by a water moccasin 17:18 oh, I see, they are gendames 17:18 yeah, pun on "gendarm" - a dame that is also a gendarm :P 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:36824 17:20 Oh I hate you so much Ishtar 17:21 amateurhour: https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/c00cf72d2c - are you happy now? ;) 17:21 speareously Ishtar, couldn't you have given something better?! 17:21 Oh spear me amateurhour :-) 17:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:11, killed by an uninjured water demon 17:22 aosdict working on it 17:22 haha nice Amy, you're always very quick to add the less serious suggestions 17:22 YASlexI: the stone of magic resistance in the deep mines is an artifact one that doesn't autocurse and give you double damage from all sources :) 17:22 heh, they're polearms though, i.e. bashing with them in melee does sucky damage unless you're riding, but then again their base damage isn't very high to begin with 17:23 (and is non-wishable) 17:23 aoei how did you open that chest exactly? 17:23 I have your save loaded 17:23 in the wizmodemobile 17:23 i forced it and then looted it 17:23 ok 17:23 iirc 17:24 hah 17:24 i just realised 17:24 when you register a user on dgl it warns you that the password is trasmitted in plaintext 17:24 that's no longer true 17:25 unless you connect via telnet or something but im not sure that's even an option on any server these days 17:25 it is on NAO still 17:25 huh no kidding 17:26 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:36923 17:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2475 17:28 Ishtar didn't appreciate the spear jokes 17:29 aoei: I assume it's also stored in plain text, too. 17:29 <{Demo}> using straight crypt() might as well be storing it in plai ntext 17:29 <{Demo}> also i found a way tocrash dgl 17:29 {Demo}: Ah, indeed. 17:29 <{Demo}> enter l\000ssword l\000ssword for both passwords when registering a new user and it will crash cause https://github.com/paxed/dgamelaunch/blob/master/dgamelaunch.c#L1557 assumes crypt doesnt return 0 and instead returns a valid str pt 17:30 <{Demo}> tried to figure out where to report dgl bugs and got no answers 17:30 <{Demo}> this works live on nao if anyone wants to try 17:31 Where did you ask, assuming it wasn't here? I generally think this channel's the first point for this community. 17:31 <{Demo}> hdf dgl also assumes crypt() returns a valid ptr but it is harder to reliabely trick cause it uses a real salt 17:31 <{Demo}> i asked in nethack 17:31 <{Demo}> no answers 17:31 Ah, fair enough. 17:33 Oh, this doesn't bode well. I chose to play *neutral* monk, and I'm playing chaotic. I must still be sicker than I thought. Much better than yesterday, though, and much much better than the day before. 17:34 <{Demo}> I swear something like that has happened to me 17:34 <{Demo}> and then it was a real bug 17:34 <{Demo}> ah yeah, it happened 17:34 <{Demo}> you could choose some alignment for some role/race combo in some variant and there was a bug where it would overwrite it 17:35 <{Demo}> probably dnhslex 17:35 Hmm. This is in Evil. 17:35 I see that every zruty is in there now 17:35 However my mental state really isn't the best these days until I've recovered - got seriously bashed about from catching that bug before christmas. 17:36 hey Demo if you figure out a way to get "-D" in a username lemme know 17:36 bug reports for dgl probs go on the github issues I guess? iunno 17:37 <{Demo}> technically the code that hdf uses is BAD 17:38 <{Demo}> trusting crypt() to return a valid str ptr is a Bad Idea 17:38 <{Demo}> oh yeah also i got afl running against local dgl working 17:38 arahael sorry to hear that! best wishes! 17:39 mobileuser: Thanks. :) Was a run-of-the-mill vomiting bug, but it really threw me about. 17:40 <{Demo}> not covid? 17:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Sam Hlf Mal Law) was given the Kiku-ichimonji, on T:4638 17:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Hob Mal Neu), 238 points, T:1022, killed by a gas spore's explosion 17:41 {Demo}: Wasn't any of the symptoms of covid. (Note: Covid is a huge concern in my country - but it's actually probably statistically rare to catch it here) 17:41 being sick sucks. glad you're on the mend, arahael. 17:42 what? covid is a huge concern in your country?! what a rare thing that noone else is experiencing :^) 17:42 THough on sunday I did miss out of being a "potential contact" by an hour. 17:42 amateurhour: The big concern right now is the breakout in our north shore - last I heard yesterday the number of confirmed infected contacts was 109. 17:43 <{Demo}> pretty sure its statistically rare to not catch covid here 17:43 :/ 17:43 glad you're feeling better arahael 17:43 Demo: number one! 17:43 sorry, forgot the curly braces *{Demo} 17:44 amateurhour: Regardless, my wife and I are keeping to our apartment, not going to any restuarants, etc, as that number can *very* easily spread, and is currently still spreading. Talk is possibly cancelling the city's christmas eve celebrations "watch at home". 17:44 read earlier today, in america, 1 out of every 1000 people have died to covid 17:44 <{Demo}> i dont get pinged 17:44 <{Demo}> either way 17:44 {Demo} 17:44 <{Demo}> doesn't ping ,me 17:44 {Demo} 17:44 <{Demo}> doesn't do anything 17:44 how bout now 17:44 ... {Demo} 17:44 <{Demo}> maybe i should make it ping me 17:44 <{Demo}> that would be a good idea 17:45 tinklebear: Thanks. Btw, I lost that earlier game yesterday - made it to the castle, but wasn't sure, I was trying to hunt down some ****'ing green elf down a hole or two it had made. Poked up, spotted a green @. Wacked it. Turned out to be medusa. 17:45 I thought australia was supposed to be in the future, isn't christmas eve already over? :D 17:45 amateurhour: THe period between christmas eve and new year's is undefined. 17:46 K2: Yeah, the situation in America is just sad. 17:46 K2: UK, too. It's aweful. I have some distant relatives there Im' in contact with. It's just awful. 17:46 lol, arahael. I saw the Medusa death in irclog, but the whole "green elf" thing makes it very funny! 17:46 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:46 It was infuriating. 17:46 bet it was! 17:47 I did say that my weakness was lack of reflection and MR! 17:47 sometimes you just don't get a break! 17:47 yeah we've basically hunkered down. vaccine exists, just need to stay healthy until we can get vaccinated 17:47 and then we can usher in the next pandemic and do this all over again 17:47 good times 17:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Sam Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5291 17:49 K2: Right. We probably won't be able to get a vaccine until 2022, as there's no emergency here. Our vaccines will roll out march next year at the earliest, and then to the most high risk - eg, probably doctors, nurses, aged care centers, that sort of thing. 17:50 Distributing it will be interesting as it has to be stored at -70C. 17:50 <{Demo}> thankfully i am personally at no risk 17:50 <{Demo}> i think if i was hit by a truck id be ok 17:50 my wife will probably get it first in this household 17:51 {Demo}: You might change your mind once you do get hit by that truck. 17:51 she's a physical theraist - not critical front line medical worker but she still falls in the 'medical field' category 17:51 therapist 17:51 K2: My worry is the same - I work from home at the moment, but my wife is a school teacher. "Essential but not essential". 17:51 <{Demo}> i had what was supposed to be covid and the worst part was when i got constipated after taking immodium 17:51 hah yup 17:52 {Demo} you dont want to be hit by a truck 17:52 <{Demo}> yeah good point 17:52 {Demo}: It was supposed to be covid? You mean you got a positive test result? 17:52 Have the US fixed their covid tests yet? 17:52 <{Demo}> no, i am not in a testable situation 17:52 even at low speed, all that mass/inertia behind it 17:52 bad 17:52 badbadbad 17:52 {Demo}: Not a testable situation? 17:52 <{Demo}> my friend got tested a few days into a cold when i'd seen him a few days before i came down with it 17:52 <{Demo}> it was funny when the cold started i was like "man, hope this is just a cold" 17:53 <{Demo}> and then he let me know he had it and that i'd been exposed to him and all 17:53 {Demo}: Here, you get the sniffles --> Get tested. 17:53 <{Demo}> and i was like "man, i hope covid is just this" 17:53 <{Demo}> throat hurt, had cold, later on diaherria 17:53 <{Demo}> not very sever 17:53 <{Demo}> very thankful 17:54 {Demo}: You're very fortunate. Part of the panic at the moment is because covid is much, much worse than "just the flu" - especially if you're the large majority who gets "long covid" - bad symptoms that last long after you've "recovered" from the initial infection - and that infection can also take months in rare cases. 17:55 <{Demo}> yeah its NOT a fun die to roll 17:55 Current response at the moment is to treat that initial infection and stop people from being infectious - understandably. 17:55 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 17:55 <{Demo}> you could come out fine and minimal suffering, or you could get FUCKED 17:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3326 17:55 -!- Alasnuyo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:55 <{Demo}> in a roguelike, I would avoid rolling a die like that 17:55 no u wouldnt u would try it just to see what happens in a yolo moment 17:56 Right. So please don't downplay your risks. I've heard stories in the US of people literally dying from it, and still insisting that covid doesn't exist or that their strong immune system will help them against THAT. 17:56 yup 17:56 unreal 17:56 i dont mind staying in my house, thank you 17:57 As a firm christian myself, I also feel that it's *nuts* that they think "God will protect them" - uh... It doesn't work like that. 17:57 K2: Good man. :) 17:57 besides, i have all my friends here i can chat with 17:57 * K2 waves 17:57 K2: And people say *we* are the antisocial ones! 17:57 hah no kidding 17:57 pandemic=introvert heaven 17:57 except for the dying, we don't like that 17:58 2020 hasn't been that bad imo* 17:58 *apart from all the death and stuff 17:58 * tinklebear chuckles 17:58 2020 has been quite the mixed bag 17:58 2020 has been fricking awful. 17:58 it's accelerated my dream of working from home 17:58 SOmeone did a map of australia, coloured by "disasterws in 2020". 17:58 i mean some good things have happened as well, but all the crap has overshadowed it 17:59 Red was something around 2.7 disasters. 17:59 ah, crap, the fires arahael 17:59 then the pandemic 17:59 elenmirie__: And the floods. And the smoke (from the fires). And the drout. 17:59 *drought. 17:59 yeah, ok 17:59 california was also bad 18:00 lol california in the early 1990s - fire, flood, earthquake and riot 18:00 I guess it's the same all over again, plus plague 18:00 and minus the earthquake I think? 18:01 knock wood.. 18:02 <{Demo}> ive had a wild year 18:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:03 tell us, {Demo} 18:07 food time, back later 18:07 see ya K2, happy food 18:07 [backscroll] here in Brazil our (sorry excuse for a) president is actively downplaying any efforts at fighting covid. I won't be surprised if we reach 300k deaths soon 18:07 eek nabru, that sounds awful 18:07 yep, it sucks. But people aren't helping either 18:08 Despite all the warnings, people are still going to clandestine parties 18:08 same here 18:08 in the UK 18:09 !rng xnh | nh 18:09 aoei: nh 18:09 Hell. Same here in australia, even whilst we're on the cusp of irradicating it. 18:09 the media is full of pictures of people crowding to Boxing Day sales. National lockdown imminent 18:10 Ah, sad. :( People managed to mostly avoid the boxing day sales here. They stayed home, voluntarily. 18:10 since we prove once again that we can't behave like adults 18:10 :/ 18:10 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:55739 18:11 The fundamental difficulty we have, though, is that if we have no infections, then all the rules and guidelines about being covid safe seems to be paranoia. Until it arrives. Then it feels like an underreaction. 18:11 (There has been no covid in my home town - at all.) 18:11 same everywhere arahael 18:11 arahael: this is what happened here in Brazil. Around June/July we managed to lower our infection rate, then people got cocky 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:13470 18:11 and things went out of control again 18:11 nabru: It's sad. 18:12 <{Demo}> we dont ever have the numbers here low enough for ppl to get cocky 18:12 nabru: History has shown that htis often happens with the second/third waves. 18:12 same here, there was even a govt program to encourage people to go to restaurants 18:12 then... bang 18:12 elenmirie__: Ouch. 18:12 :/ 18:12 Oh, it would hurt to own a restuarant business in 2020. 18:12 it bloody well would! 18:13 Even in austrlaia where we do have decent govt handouts. 18:13 lots of them will never reopen 18:13 A lot of restaurants around me closed because people couldn't go to them or, since they lost their jobs, order delivery/takeout 18:13 hospitality generally 18:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:4275 18:13 tourism too 18:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] amateurhour (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1002 18:14 (Our govt realised that most businesses won't be able to afford to hire staff for 2020, so they started a program where the *govt* would pay a flat rate of $1500/fortnight for every employee that qualified. And many qualified) 18:14 here it was 80% of wages (still is, they've extended to next April I think) 18:15 elenmirie__: Awesome. I suspect ours have stopped that programme but I haen't kept track. 18:15 yours was called JobKeeper I think, not sure of current status 18:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4392 18:15 Yeah, we had JobKeeper (which had two versions or iterations), and JobSeeker. 18:16 ah, right 18:16 here it's furlough, and they ended it and then brought it back 18:16 after floundering about a bit in between 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:13976 18:17 The country I'm jealous about is NZ. There, they have a proper leader. 18:17 my sister is loving it, she's been in furlough since the start 18:17 They also don't have Murdoch's Press. 18:17 she's only recently gotten bored enough to do a part time job in the meantime 18:17 do they not? Lucky NZ 18:17 I'm jealous about NZ, too 18:17 They got their shit together rather early and never downplayed the threat 18:18 They had a breakout later, though - but they handled that, I believe. 18:18 yeah, a couple of cases and they locked down, much wailing and gnashing of teeth but they beat it 18:18 here we keep locking down and then opening up again too early 18:19 and it surges back 18:19 or doing daft things like forcing schools to open 18:19 Australia... Feels like it's splintered into multiple countries - because our fed govt isn't taking the lead. 18:19 Here we never had a proper lockdown to begin with. A few states had their own lockdowns but it ought to have been coordinated federally 18:19 arahael: same here 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:19548 18:19 nabru: I think we're talking about the same country! 18:19 Brazil and Oz? 18:20 Heh, no, but it seems really similar so far, except for the number of infections. 18:20 lol 18:20 Like... I had to actually check. :D 18:20 I think it's similar almost everywhere 18:20 Vietnam also had an early success with lockdown. 18:21 The ironic thing is... The US actually kicked the Flu's arse when it came around and swept the world. 18:21 most of us live in places where the governments have got it wrong 18:21 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:21 And now, it's like they've entirely ignored their own history. 18:21 The US had mandatory masks and everything. 18:21 you mean in the 1918 pandemic? 18:21 Yes. 18:22 I guess things have changed a bit there 18:22 Funnily enough, I learnt about the 1918 flu doing family history, noticed a few people died in 1919... "Hmm... What happened!?" Oh, the deaths were all related to breathing issues... Curious... 18:22 plus, the 1918 pandemic until recently was nearly forgotten 18:22 Breathing or heart issues. (Which are related, anyway) 18:23 elenmirie__: It really shouldn't be, it's not that long ago. 18:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo (Sam Hlf Mal Law) was given the Garnet Rod, on T:8810 18:23 I think they deliberately forgot right after 18:23 A couple of people from that time are still alive, even. 18:23 and then people started digging into it a few decades ago 18:24 I wanted to read a short story that was set in that time, and I had to dig far and wide to find it, that was in the 1980s 18:24 it was called Pale Horse, Pale Rider 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:14898 18:24 Sounds american-indian. 18:24 nethack players don't need explanation of that reference 18:25 book of revelations, actually, reference to death 18:25 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:25 elenmirie__: Most translations use "white horse", I think. 18:25 * arahael doesn't recall the riders being pale either, but can't remember. 18:25 there was a song that the characters sang with those words 18:26 I think it was a spiritual 18:26 from the US 18:26 Ah. I don' tknow any songs - deaf and all. 18:26 sorry ... I didnt know it either 18:26 let me look 18:27 Nah, it's OK. 18:27 I'm never interested in the lyrics either. :D 18:27 boooo 18:27 that run was going pretty well 18:27 then i got lightning'd 18:27 possibly could have reacted faster 18:27 idk 18:27 oh hm nah 18:27 oh yeah i hsould have used my wands 18:27 i tried to force bolt but i'd switched to mithril so couldn't cast 18:27 foolish 18:29 anyway this is about the story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Horse,_Pale_Rider 18:30 never mind, I'm overstaying my welcome clearly! 18:30 elenmirie__: Not at all! 18:31 elenmirie__: And that sounds like an interesting book to read. Scarlet fever earlier in teh UK was also something the govts should have learnt from as well. We *know* that immigration and travel is a big vector. 18:31 Even if most people have forgotten from history, govts ostensibly have access to experts. 18:31 they do, but they don't listen to them 18:31 they're "doommongers" 18:31 Right :( 18:31 until they're not 18:32 and not everyone here is too young to remember when we didn't have the polio vaccine 18:32 I remember fear in my mother's eyes when it was around; I was too young to understand 18:33 the polio, I mean, not the vaccine 18:33 Bloody antivaccers today. :( 18:33 that came when I was about 8 or so 18:33 yeah, they're nuts 18:33 oo, found an elven short sword 18:33 aoei: They're good? 18:33 no 18:33 wizards can learn the short sword skill, and it's as good damage as a saber or scimitar 18:34 better than a quarterstaff lol 18:34 lol 18:34 Magicbane 18:34 i mean, marginally better 18:34 well MB sucks too 18:34 or a pointed stick 18:34 sharpen the quarterstaff lol 18:34 d8/d8 > d6/d6 18:34 bah, I've ascended lots of times with magicbane 18:34 tho granted my quarterstaff starts out +1 18:34 oh yeah sure me too 18:34 but i dont want to waste time saccing for it 18:35 so it doesn't suck then 18:35 ok, understood 18:35 all weapon options for wizard suck XD 18:35 magic missile 18:35 does not suck 18:35 ok, not technically a weapon 18:35 i died anywauy 18:36 DAIYEN FOOEL 18:36 i thought goblin should be an easy kill even with unskilled shortsword 18:36 and then suffered a severe case of keep trying to hit it despite losing hp 18:36 aoei: Ah, playing evil? :D 18:37 <{Demo}> grayswandir is best weapon for wizard 18:37 arahael: no.. 18:37 waht made you think that? o_o 18:37 aoei: Ah, that happens to me much more often with evil. Monsters can suddenly have a wierdly good AC. 18:38 no its just because i was using a weapon i have no skill in at xl1 18:38 arahael does not die except in evil :D ;) 18:38 like an idiot 18:38 elenmirie__: Ha. 18:38 haha 18:38 elenmirie__: I'm not *that* good for you to make that sort of joke. ;) 18:39 luxi said wizard will finish with either staff or mb 18:39 you saying luxi is wrong? 18:39 aoei? 18:39 fast wizard I mean 18:39 <{Demo}> luxi doesnt play like a huma 18:40 :D 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16682 18:42 LOL 18:42 kicked down a shop 18:43 elenmirie__: luxi probably is right lol 18:43 i kicked down a shop door to steal scrolls 18:43 then read one unid'd scroll 18:43 i had two left that could maybe bet aming or tele 18:43 it was blessed gtele hahahahaha 18:43 teleporte dto the downstairs 18:43 genius 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 164 points, T:211, killed by a silver dagger 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 11 points, T:149, killed by a boulder 18:46 What!? :( Read a cursed scroll of geno, to get out of a Very Bad Situation > "You shudder for a moment". 18:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) became Ishtar's Envoy of Balance, on T:37117 18:49 Ugh 18:49 Hmm, I'm ded, anyway - survived that but got hit by a zombie and now have TermIll. 18:49 I give up, no MR for me 18:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:49 krm26__: Those games are frustrating. 18:50 I've got two spears, a knife, and the Vorpal Blade to go with my no armor and generating-things-I-can't-kill dungeon. Grrrrrrrrr 18:52 Hmm. Still TermIll, but it's only been 200 or so turns since I last prayed. 18:52 I do have *cursed* unicorn horns... 18:52 arahael: Well, what do you have to lose? Prayer timeout is sometimes very short, especially with the grace for major trouble 18:53 Good luck! 18:53 That luck's gotta be somewhere, right? 18:53 Pinkbeast: Fair point, I've read everything, quaffed everything, and I'm still alive... Chances are I only have a few turns left. 18:53 Eucalyptus and wolfsbane didn't do a trick. (Both cursed) 18:53 Only thing left to do is indeed to pray. 18:54 "Thou art arrogant, mortal". 18:54 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:55 :/ 18:55 ok i will take a break now 18:55 or possibly go to bed 18:55 i wonder how many wizards i killed so far 18:55 i lost count 18:56 aoei: Sleep well, murderer. ;) 18:56 hey i didn't murder nayone 18:57 i was the one bein murdered 18:57 anywa i changed my mind 18:57 one more try 18:57 yeah, don't blame the victim! 18:57 lol 18:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 5218 points, T:2242, zombified by an orc zombie 18:58 Well, I should have a shower, and go for a very short walk with the wife before the next game. Will be my first time out since... Wednesday. 18:59 oh, have a nice walk! 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1016 points, T:917, killed by a giant leech 18:59 Thanks, thinking of going down to the river. (We live right next to one. It'll be a very short walk) 18:59 sweet 19:00 we also live near a river but usually go down to the seaside to walk 19:00 nothing like a good walk by the river. have a good one. 19:00 because there's not much walking space by the river 19:00 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:8721 19:00 tinklebear: We might even walk by the river, too! But at this stage, walking *to* the river might be at our limits today. 19:01 there and back again 19:01 Yep. We'd walk further to take the garage out. 19:01 little by little, then! 19:01 off you go! :D 19:02 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 19:04 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:04 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 19:05 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:677 19:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Set, on T:8771 19:06 -!- oh7 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:10 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 187 points, T:389, killed by a gnome lord 19:11 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3603 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:3782 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had a copper spear entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:37433 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 337 points, T:687, killed by a slightly wounded gnome 19:22 ^ this is somehow funny 19:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3517 19:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3537 19:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3576 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 699 points, T:698, killed by an invisible gnome lady 19:30 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4251 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5642 19:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 9109 points, T:4457, killed by an uninjured hill orc called Thosai-gor of Grisuunog, while fainted from lack of food 19:36 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:36 Hello 19:36 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 19:37 * Umbire thinks 19:37 Aloha 19:37 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 19:37 Aw man 19:37 Oh that works too 19:38 K2: You there? 19:38 I have Yet Another New Question 19:38 Velkommen, Beholder 19:38 darn 19:39 Yet Another Beholder Feature Idea, clearly 19:43 Good news is the gelatinous cube ate all the zombie corpses 19:43 Bad news is, still a gelatinous cube 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonhide gauntlets of protection", on T:38763 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:20106 19:45 And now my connection dropped for no reason 19:46 So I might need a recovery 19:46 Joy 19:46 Gonna shower first, then deal with all this 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:6750 19:47 Hmm, gelatinous cube is a method I haven't seen yet of disposing of zombie corpses in evilhack. 19:49 Usually because you don't want those fucks around 19:49 Lest they dispose of you next 19:51 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:7129 19:51 Ugh, I'm boned -- NPC has both a wand of polymorph and a wand of death, and I'm a neutral giant with an "oR and a potential lamp wish -- I think the only way to get both MR and reflection is with the Platinum Yendorian Express Card but the game already has plenty of useless crap weapon artifacts :-P 19:53 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 19:55 In any case I need to shower before I try to start my game again 19:57 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 20:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Shelob, on T:37647 20:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Pir Inc Mal Neu), 29148 points, T:5571, killed by a priestess of the Lord 20:09 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:8337 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:38865 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:38921 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2139 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 1969 points, T:3517, killed by a dwarvish soldier 20:15 does 3.7 have different artifact wish rules than 3.6? 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "The Eyes of the Overworld", on T:8369 20:23 bouquet no 20:24 !tell Umbire i'm back/forth from the computer for a bit tonight, what was your question? i'll check back soon 20:24 No worries, K2, I've got this! 20:25 maybe my memory is wrong... I thought the first wish for a quest artifact was always successful despite other gifted artifacts existing? 20:26 Nope 20:26 Not to my knowledge 20:27 what changed about artiwishes then? 20:27 In 3.7? 20:27 affirmative. 20:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:38894 20:28 nothing 20:28 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:28 you're not guaranteed to get a quest artifact 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:8877 20:29 Hi 20:29 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 20:29 Umbire: Message from K2 at 2020-12-26 20:24 EST: i'm back/forth from the computer for a bit tonight, what was your question? i'll check back soon 20:29 for wishing purposes of whether you get it or not, there's nothing special about quest artifacts, it just looks at "artifacts" 20:29 if you name sting and orcrist that will mess up artiwishing 20:29 !tell K2 So an orc shaman mounted a white unicorn and turned it hostile towards me 20:29 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire. 20:30 !tell K2 Is that an intended consequence or no? 20:30 No worries, Umbire, I've got this! 20:30 I'm pretty sure you don't need to !tell him if he's here 20:30 I have a selective memory. I swear I read that from 3.6 on artifact wishing had changed so that the first wish was guaranteed and wasn't dependent on how many artifacts existed in the game already. 20:31 But he might not be here right this moment 20:31 bouquet: it's not guaranteed. 20:31 Umbire that's intentional yeah 20:31 K2: Message from Umbire at 2020-12-26 20:29 EST: So an orc shaman mounted a white unicorn and turned it hostile towards me 20:31 K2: Message from Umbire at 2020-12-26 20:30 EST: Is that an intended consequence or no? 20:31 Sick 20:32 however, hindsight being what it is, a chaotic monster prob shouldnt want to mount a lawful steed 20:32 ^ 20:32 so, if there's 4 artifact weapons already then my chances of getting EoA from a wish is subject to the table in the wiki? 20:32 nor should the lawful steed allow a chaotic rider 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) stole 75 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kopasker's general store, on T:9132 20:32 Yeah I was half expecting them to be bucked off 20:32 Anyway repacified the unicorn, still have a cube problem 20:32 Yes. Random artifact weapons are BAD 20:32 gelcube :P 20:32 Should be able to crush them under the heel of a humble ant 20:33 dang. So much for my plan of being a caster monk :( 20:33 THAT would be an amazing DnD callback, if an ant walks on an artifact lying on the ground, it is destroyed 20:33 krm26__: what's the origin of that? 20:34 I think the first edition DMG, "methods of artifact destruction" 20:34 I'll have to look that up! 20:35 In the brain goo of Bahamut, devoured by Cerebus, etc. etc., "crushed under the heel of a humble ant" 20:35 There was a random table 20:35 ha! So many tables! 20:35 bouquet: if you have wishes to burn, you could still go for it. i once burned 3 wishes for an artifact. 20:36 I burned 8 to not get an artifact just this month! Good ol' Dragonbane 20:36 arahael: naw. Castle wand was 0:1. If another shows up in gehennom I'll definitely try. 20:37 No scrolls of charging? 20:37 plenty. I always save my last wish for a rubber chicken on Astral. 20:37 oic 20:37 ain't got no time for punchin' 20:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 581585 points, T:40430, killed by an Angband orc 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3035 20:44 YANI: Scaring a monster's mount has a chance to throw them off the saddle depending on the mans of scaring. 20:45 Good luck doing that without getting thrown off yourself. 20:45 You say that like I'm excluding the player. 20:45 * Umbire taps forehead. 20:46 Wait, hold on 20:46 I think the goblin captain actually fell off 20:46 or else bodied themselves with a wand rebound 20:46 Umbire: Sexist. Women can do the scaring, too. Infact, they're much better at it. 20:46 ;) 20:47 means* 20:47 Happy? :B 20:47 Heh. :D 20:47 some of us thought it, arahael said it outloud :) 20:47 * Umbire swats bouquet with a newspaper 20:48 I'm just not brave enough. 20:48 Hmph 20:48 * Umbire improvises on a tooled horn 20:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 darts on an altar, on T:3639 20:49 Umbire: maybe having a charisma <6 could count as scare monster? 20:50 bouquet: By the contrary, >18. The prettier they are, the scarier they get. 20:50 Aggravate monster, maybe 20:50 see: Homelander 20:50 handsome fellow, scary as fuck 20:51 YANI: Increase elven charisma cap to 21 and have any charisma score over 18 frighten people through unnatural beauty (or >=18 if an elf) 20:51 Lmfao wow, the goblin actually fried himself 20:54 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 20:54 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:55 And that's one dead cube! 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6209 points, T:4842, killed by a heavily wounded owlbear 21:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:39446 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 666 points, T:801, killed by Ms. Ardjawinangun; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 21:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5448 21:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3735 points, T:5473, killed by an uninjured human zombie, while reading a book 21:08 Anyway I'm done with Soko now! 21:08 Just have to claim my prize... 21:09 ...uh 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:40420 21:12 how to pick properly... 21:13 What did you get? 21:15 I haven't tried yet 21:15 I was looking to see how the prizes work 21:15 I don't want the prize armor exactly because I have speed and GoProt 21:15 (and I'm wearing Dragonbane) 21:16 although a HELM of speed would be good if I ended up picking that door 21:16 which, that's the whole thing, I won't know what's behind what door until I open it 21:17 Honestly I want the BoH most of all 21:18 But all these potential rewards are desirable save the gauntlets 21:19 * Umbire cries 21:19 EvilHack has finally defeated me 21:19 ah... 21:19 Not with engulfing cubes or regenerating zombies 21:19 But with fucking pick-a-door 21:19 😭 21:25 <@Umby> Time to deal with this the only way I know how. 21:25 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792578901452914749/unknown.png 21:25 Go for the bag/marker, because if it isn't a bag, it is a marker 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2090 points, T:4454, killed by a hill orc 21:25 <@Umby> Middle door it is 21:25 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792578970537164822/unknown.png 21:26 I literally don't know what's behind any of the doors, dude 21:26 And I already mentioned I want the BoH most 21:26 Well, picked the middle 21:27 Learned the word Elbereth 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:17276 21:27 Nonono, that is what nymphs are for 21:27 ...huh. 21:27 Wait until you have your first potion of object detection 21:27 Well I got the chamber I'd wanted 21:27 Just not the exact prize... 21:28 ...but it's a marker, hey ho! 21:28 That is one of only two markers you will get in the entire game without wishing 21:28 I'm aware 21:28 Other is in the Sanctum 21:28 That's a note for future playthroughs in any case 21:28 Probably should've raided that garden 21:28 In any case my main problem now is getting a bag 21:29 Bags are easy, anyway, relative to anything else. 21:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1398 21:29 Yeah but I want one noooooooooooooow :c 21:30 I do like how scrolls of identify are pre-identifeid in evil. 21:30 Umbire: Heh. 21:31 Oh, tnnt idea! Only one ascension per variant counts! ;) 21:31 Basically Junethack 21:31 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:31 Oh, that's what junethack does? 21:31 Something like that. 21:31 tnnt doesn't have multiple variants 21:32 so that would reduce to "one ascension counts" 21:32 My fucking dog just died 21:32 who did the idiot attack 21:32 F 21:32 Probably that dwarf queen 21:32 Whatever 21:35 Now I just have to live long enough to get back out 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 651 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:42862 21:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Kni Hum Fem Law), 797 points, T:1772, killed by a slightly wounded watchman 21:36 But first, dinner 21:39 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:9644 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 11916 points, T:9365, killed by an uninjured watch captain 21:52 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 158 points, T:749, killed by a wand 22:06 Woah. Stepped in a trap, which left me blind. Turned out the monsters were a bunch of zombies, and I had no helm. Somehow, only got my brain eaten once, to the effect of "you feel very stupid!", no TermIll, nothing. 22:06 Amazing. 22:07 Oh, and just now found a +4 stone orcish helm. 22:07 Grug protect head with big rock, make eating very hard. 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 644 points, T:1537, killed by barely wounded Mr. Kyzyl; the shopkeeper 22:17 *sigh*. wizard evil bones. Those are always dangerious. 22:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1969 22:30 Mm, have a saddle and a pony I can tame, but what to tame it with 22:31 Do slime molds work on them? 22:31 Yes; they're fruit. 22:31 IIRC lichen corpses also work 22:32 I know those do, but I have none on me 22:33 At a pinch, I think throwing *any* consumable will at least make them peaceful. Never tried to saddle them though. 22:34 You can, but you can't ride them. 22:34 Ah, fair enough. 22:35 I remember everything else about taming domestic u besides whether or not slime molds worked. 22:35 All I wanted to know. 22:35 Thank you both though 22:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] billum (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2223 points, T:1008, killed by an uninjured priest of Ptah 22:48 Alright, tamed the horse 22:48 Now to bring it to the saddle 22:50 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:50 Hmm, not familiar with this variant of mines end in evil. 22:50 And now I have a steed. 22:51 It's not a sewer. 22:51 ...Rat King? 22:51 Oh, then what's in it? 22:51 Careful if it is Rat King! 22:51 Leeches, cockroaches, rats, and the Rat King. 22:51 Yeah, I've learnt my lesson with the Rat King, though it took me three failed attempts to kill it. He's seriously tough. 22:52 So leaving the rat king alone. But is he in this variant? I dunno... 22:52 Evil has his level as a potential Mine's End 22:52 He has his own variant of the Mines' End 22:52 Umbire: There's a fountain with a moat around it, and there seems to be a room up ahead. 22:52 ...yeah, this is a new end floor I've never seen 22:52 If it is sewage as far as the eye can see it is the Rat King 22:52 All I got was the fuck ass catacombs 22:52 krm26__: No sewage at all. 22:53 This one appears to be some sort of... High orc town? 22:53 I've only seen him in sewers full of sewage 22:53 Yes, there is an orc town 22:53 Full of named orcs? 22:53 It will have on general store surviving with a shopkeeper barricaded inside with boulders 22:54 No named orcs, no. 22:54 krm26__: It's not "orctown". 22:54 That only happens if you get Orc Town to begin with I think 22:54 Could just be a normalish town then, there are a lot of layout varieties 22:54 It's *definitely* not a normalish town. 22:55 Oh, there's an altar to moloch. 22:55 Balrog temple then? 22:55 And a forge. 22:55 That'll be it 22:55 Ah 22:55 Hmm... Balrog temple, yeah? What's that? 22:55 Hope they don't activate the balrog figurine at the end 22:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:55 You read: Dagul protects our doors. Dagul protects our souls. 22:55 Yup, that's where you are 22:58 Nothing on the wiki about it, this is almost exciting. 22:59 wow, arahael the stoic 22:59 enjoy :) 23:00 you ALMOST managed to excite him K2 23:00 should have added a stripper pole 23:00 K2: Ha. Actually is this a recent addition? 23:01 i added the orc temple about 1.5 yrs ago? I'd have to look. khor is the author, its in dnethack 23:01 i changed it a bit 23:01 Omigod the NPC generation is just amazeballs, can't catch a break 23:01 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "3 holy chargings", on T:10069 23:02 Ah, nice. 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 1153 points, T:3120, killed by an uninjured giant mimic 23:02 Hmm, altars to moloch... Worth converting? 23:02 si 23:02 Sweet. 23:02 april 12th, 2019 23:02 is when i added this 23:03 its fairly dangerous if you're not creful 23:03 not as dangerous as the sewers though 23:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:10071 23:03 *careful 23:03 * Umbire takes another break to update wiki pages 23:04 K2: I've no idea what to expect with this. :/ But just found a random "oESP here, and looks like there's a whole 'nother room in the back... 23:04 :) 23:04 not gonna spoil it for ya 23:04 Typical(!) 23:04 :D 23:04 Alright, time to go let the Chromatic Dragon have her way with me without using any magic resistance 23:04 heh 23:05 krm26__ you're playing giant right? 23:05 Ayup 23:05 I reckon giants should be able to get dragon scales to fit. 23:05 I mean, how big are dragons, anyway? 23:06 Puny dragons! 23:06 krm26__ toss boulders at tiamat 23:06 They seem to do OK damage, I've been using them as my primary ranged ability 23:06 I've also boulder-forted to kill troublesome NPCs, but not sure how useful that is against a ranged powerhouse 23:07 These tiny corridors around the temples are... Intriguing. 23:08 My first time to the balrog temple I got chameleon-arch-liched 23:09 Honestly that seems to happen to me my first time anywhere...like getting a lei 23:09 aloha 23:09 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 23:09 :P 23:09 Hmm, there's a *lawful* altar here!? 23:10 Think Khazad-dum overrun by orcs 23:10 That's where they survivors barricaded themselves 23:11 And by survivors I mean not-survivors 23:11 <@riker> khazad dum but gnomes 23:11 The gnomes gdelved too gdeep 23:12 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 23:12 <@riker> give ruggo a mausoleum 23:12 <@riker> here lies ruggo son of flandal, lord of the gnomish mines 23:13 WAIT. I'm a caveman. I can eat giants! 23:13 Dammit I am so slow 23:14 Found the figurine of a balrog. 23:15 Don't touch it! It's evil! 23:15 time bandits 23:15 * arahael touches it... 23:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKGbguoildA 23:17 krm26__: Hmph. Indeed, the figurine is cursed. 23:18 Well, I enjoyed this level. Good work K2 incorporating it. :) 23:18 Doesn't that mean it'll inevitably trigger on its own? 23:19 Don't think so... Unless that's an evilism... 23:19 thanks ! 23:20 It's vanilla behavior iirc 23:20 Umbire: You sure? 23:22 A cursed figurine will automatically transform anywhere between 200 to 9200 turns[2] after it is cursed or placed into an inventory; dropping[3] or uncursing[4][5] it will stop the timer (until it's picked up or cursed again, respectively). The transformation occurs as if you applied the figurine yourself, so there is still a 20% chance that the monster won't be hostile. If the transformation fails for any reason, it will try again after 1-5000 23:22 turns[6] 23:22 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Figurine 23:23 and i didnt change figurine behavor in evilhack 23:24 Ah, interesting. Something new. Good thing I dropped it, then, once I BUC'ed it out of curiosity. 23:24 Once I get holy water I should come back down and grab it. 23:25 Speaking of pets 23:25 Would make an amazing pet. Send it through minetown. :D 23:25 K2: Lived through Soko, got a marker (because of course) 23:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:25 Currently at the top floor with a saddled horse and a dog 23:25 Wishing I really had a bag right now 23:25 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 23:26 marker = good 23:26 since they dont spawn randomly 23:26 bag = slightly less gooder but still good 23:26 use your newfound powers for good 23:26 THAT SAID 23:26 I do still have a magic lamp and water I can bless. 23:26 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 23:30 So that's my next goal 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 245 points, T:927, killed by a wand 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 28 points, T:25, killed by an uninjured water moccasin 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed the Tiamat, on T:43080 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43081 23:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5178 23:39 Oh, crap. 23:40 :c 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 355 points, T:844, killed by a wand 23:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 power gauntlets", on T:10096 23:41 Forgot I was weilding the wooden pick. 23:41 Still think it's incredible how effective wooden picks are against hard stone. 23:41 Maybe it's just the handle that's wood :B 23:42 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:10103 23:42 Umbire: I doubt it, I mean, in this case that might work, but there's also stone picks... 23:42 Which should not work at all! 23:42 Iron sharpens iron. 23:42 Stone shatters stone. 23:42 * Umbire offers arahael a fortune cookie 23:43 * arahael reaches for the cookie with the pick. 23:43 ...it's cursed isn't it. 23:44 No, I just keep forgetting I've got it wielded. 23:44 Obviously 23:44 :B 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3820 23:45 Still have a set of bones to pilfer 23:45 Ghost is long taken care of 23:45 But haven't had room for the items 23:46 Hmm, Soldiers are human, and thus, I can't sac them. :( 23:46 Not ALL soldiers c; 23:46 But this bunch that just spawned I'm guessing 23:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 17028 points, T:5515, killed by an energy vortex 23:47 Most enjoyable evil in a long while. 23:47 Umbire: Bag of tricks. 23:47 I was hoping for sac fodder. 23:47 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 23:47 F 23:47 This current (and first) Evil game's been so fun 23:48 I think I actually have a bag of tricks on hand now, that's also why I'm heading back to fl1 23:48 Yeah, Evil's really addictive. So much more variation. 23:48 And some of it feels uncharted, too. 23:51 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:51 Thank you so much K2 23:51 <3 23:51 (also say hi to the lil one for me!) 23:54 K2: The Sceptre of Might doesn't provide MR in evilhack? 23:54 Nooooo