00:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:29009 00:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17368 00:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 88842 points, T:22130, killed by a giant beetle, while praying 00:06 !pom 00:06 bouquet: The moon is waxing gibbous; full moon in 3 days. 00:07 holy smokes has mines end been upgraded? Found 2 magic lamps, GoD, and 2 helms of brilliance! 00:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed the platinum yendorian express card", on T:10824 00:11 wow 00:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1761 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:18256 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3039 00:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1266 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3210 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 2406 points, T:3005, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:33 sweet delicous telepathy 00:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:30165 00:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30167 00:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 727 points, T:843, killed by a gecko 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:6227 00:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had a wooden chain mail entrusted to her by Venus, on T:13481 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6590 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:6605 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4484 points, T:6647, killed by a warg, while praying 00:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:14175 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:1128 01:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Neu), 177259 points, T:14354, killed by brainlessness 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2749 01:09 -!- microlance has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:10 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3913 01:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Arc Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5545 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2987 01:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:4901 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2328 points, T:4291, quit 01:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:6859 01:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1430 points, T:2742, quit 01:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 20 points, T:75, killed by an arrow 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5416 points, T:7298, killed by a dwarf lord 01:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Law) had a pair of leather fencing gloves entrusted to her by Anu, on T:300 01:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "a blessed fixed greased +2 boots of speed", on T:32192 01:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Law), 341 points, T:1040, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4309 points, T:5357, quit 01:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7386 01:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 298 points, T:1413, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:50 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the gnome zombie of Gado Gado, the former Sightseer, on T:5271 01:50 <@mtf> bones levels are fun! 01:52 <@p0werm0de> agreed 01:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Hum Mal Una), 3084 points, T:2981, killed by a bugbear, while praying 01:58 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) received advice from The Oracle, on T:5704 02:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 917 points, T:2099, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 5 points, T:37, killed by a boulder 02:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hum Fem Cha), 1204 points, T:2359, killed by a bolt of cold, while taking off clothes 02:15 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Arc Hum Fem Law), 36970 points, T:9430, burned by molten lava 02:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 949 points, T:2116, killed by a rothe 02:29 -!- moony has quit [Quit: Bye!] 02:30 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 02:43 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:9371 02:47 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 469 points, T:1605, killed by a rothe 03:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Rog Hum Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a boiling potion), on T:5 03:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 208 points, T:362, killed by a giant rat, while unconscious from rotten food 03:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1487 points, T:2362, killed by a pony, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Val Hum Fem Law), 12 points, T:202, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 03:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:735 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Val Hum Fem Neu), 213 points, T:966, killed by a hobbit 03:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1522 points, T:2860, killed by a water moccasin 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nell (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 904 points, T:1241, killed by a giant spider 03:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1439 03:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 2498 points, T:1651, quit 03:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Nell's ghost, the former Footpad, on T:5467 03:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1460 points, T:2878, killed by a werejackal 03:56 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Sam Swn Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1814 04:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Sam Swn Fem Law), 11755 points, T:3136, killed by an energy vortex 04:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 443 points, T:1094, killed by a wand, while helpless 04:28 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 04:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered Benny, her faithful little dog, on T:1292 04:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 410 points, T:1296, killed by a magic missile 04:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 56 points, T:432, killed by a water demon 04:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 67 points, T:230, killed by an electric shock 04:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 358 points, T:989, killed by a water moccasin 04:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 8 points, T:58, killed by a jackal 04:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 716 points, T:1828, killed by a poisonous corpse 04:53 -!- Merlek has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 04:54 -!- Merlek has joined #hardfought 05:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1350 points, T:2975, killed by a fire ant 05:12 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:25 -!- Merlek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:26 -!- Merlek has joined #hardfought 05:28 -!- Merlek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:39 happy holidays y'all 05:45 -!- Merlek has joined #hardfought 05:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:50 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pondlife (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 10301 points, T:10317, killed by a troll 06:12 -!- Merlek has left #hardfought 06:18 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:6576 06:19 aoei: You too! 06:19 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 06:21 !who 06:21 tinklebear: [hdf-us] malor [dnh] | [hdf-eu] elenmirie [nh370] | [hdf-au] Arahael [nh370] 06:24 -!- Merlek has joined #hardfought 06:42 Good morning, aoei. 06:42 and Merry Christmas, everybody 06:44 merry christmas tinklebear :) 06:46 Hi Merlek! 06:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) wished for "the +2 Black Arrow", on T:16914 07:05 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:17758 07:27 -!- Alasnuyo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:46 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:52 YO 07:52 omg that moment when you're skint as fuck 07:52 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 07:52 and then you find a fiver you didn't know you had :D 07:53 it's like christmas came on christmas :D 07:54 -!- eady has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:55 nice 07:55 can still potentially get a smol amount of christmas booze if the petrol station is open lol 07:56 lol, aoei. stay warm! 07:56 just been out for a 90 min walk tinklebear its not too cold here 07:57 ah, good. quite cold here. 07:57 276 K 07:57 * tinklebear looks for the drug store folder with the conversion charts 07:57 are you in north america? 07:58 its 40 F or 3 C 07:58 yes. 07:58 about 07:58 i just decided to do K to be difficult lol 07:58 * tinklebear appreciated the good joke! 07:58 amateurhour: did they permanently ingrain kelvin into your skull in physics school or did you escape this fate? 07:59 in chemistry school you cant escape it 08:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a giant mosquito), on T:3731 08:01 anyway i shall go see if I can acquire some festive bevs with my... hah i can make it add up to €6.66 08:01 yeah we used K typically, though it's a trivial conversion to C 08:01 yeah its easy 08:01 I just remember 273 and 298 08:01 those are the important ones 08:01 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:02 merry xmas nethack people <3 08:02 rebatela: merry xmas :D 08:02 good cheer, rebatela! 08:02 cheers to you both 08:04 brb 08:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 4594 points, T:5329, killed by a gnome lady, while fainted from lack of food 08:05 a merry nethack christmas to you too! 08:06 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 08:06 -!- Alasnuyo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:10 tfw no brevishack in my christmas stocking :( 08:10 :( 08:10 brb4real this time 08:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 572 points, T:1541, killed by a dwarf 08:12 merry christmas 08:13 would Santa be a red or white @ in nethack? 08:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:17225 08:15 I'd kind of like to see a red 4@. 08:16 though maybe not, if he'd look like a werewolf. 08:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17230 08:16 dNetHack updated (all servers) 08:16 santa is a weredere confirmed 08:16 merry christmas all 08:16 Merry Christmas 08:16 thank u for the christmas dnh update K2 08:18 o/ 08:18 thnx happy holidays 08:18 <3 08:18 hugs 08:19 my kid is currently basking in the glory of having received a rubiks cube from santa 08:19 K2 is there a backtrace for oh6's vanilla crashes? 08:19 amateurhour they werent crashes 08:19 oh 08:19 !tell Alasnuyo dnh game is recovered 08:19 No worries, K2, I've got this! 08:20 what was it then 08:20 "Why is Santa so jolly?" "He knows where all the bad girls live." 08:20 he was polypiling a bunch of items at once 08:20 more than the game can handle i guess, caused it to freeze up, binary was consuming 100% of one cpu 08:20 lol that's epic 08:21 Pinkbeast hah 08:22 k2: awesome gift with the rubiks cube... err i mean tell santa it was a good gift 08:22 heh 08:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3725 08:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) stole 2948 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Angmagssalik's general store, on T:3736 08:23 only thing is now she can google a million ways to solve it... you need to disconnect from the grid until the cube is solved 08:24 when rubik invented it, he wasn't sure if it was solvable. now people do it blindfolded in seconds. that stuff blows my mind 08:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:24 santa isn't real, they're just a marketing icon the elves came up with to shift all the toys they make in the arctic factories 08:24 like Tony the Tiger 08:25 you shut your mouth. tony the tiger is real 08:25 K2: Don't blame us if the kid grows up to be a group theorist 08:27 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:28 what if rodney is santa? would explain all his elven king friends 08:29 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1206 08:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Adept, on T:1274 08:30 * tinklebear notes that this is not necessarily inconsistent with amateurhour's thesis 08:30 lol 08:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:35121 08:37 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 08:37 Merry Christmas, #hardfought! 08:38 <{Demo}> merry Christmas !! 08:40 yeaeeeeah christmas beer and crisps get 08:41 merry christmas tangles 08:41 <{Demo}> I'm still trying to wake up 08:41 wake up, grab a brush and put a little makeup 08:41 ok i have to listen to that now lol 08:41 thanks amateurhour 08:42 :D 08:42 it is now a christmas song 08:43 merry christmas Tangles \o/ 08:45 mc 08:46 ay stenno 08:46 i thought i was dead broke but i found €6.66 in coins in a little purse that i'd forgotten about 08:46 lol christmas celebration was yesterday :P but merry belated christmas to everyone! 08:46 so i went to the petrol station and got a Franziskana, a Bitburger and a Paderborner 08:46 (previously i had 0 christmas booze) 08:46 * LarienTelrunya has very beautiful fingernails thanks to two flasks of nail polish she got from her aunt yesterday ♥♥♥ 08:47 nice Amy 08:47 do you have boxing day Amy? 08:47 i dont think its a thing in germany amateurhour 08:47 but perhaps one of the real germans can confirm 08:47 what is boxing day 08:48 oh 2. weihnachtsfeiertag 08:48 26th dec 08:48 its a holiday here too 08:48 ah okay 08:48 the 26th is "resting day" 08:48 btw im about to start working on my stocking gift for y'all 08:48 aoei: a Christmas miracle! 08:48 i know its a little late but 08:48 so what do you do on the 25h if you do all the presents stuff on the 24th? 08:48 bhaak: yes!! :D 08:49 also my wonderful roommate (bundlebundlebundle) baked a lovely cake of which I'm eating another slice now ♥ 08:49 i could have got 6 of the cheap beers but that seemed excessive for just me 08:49 so i got 2 nice beers, one cheap one and a pack of crisps 08:49 christmas on a budget lol 08:49 amateurhour: well 25th and 26th are holidays here, but generally roommate and me use boxing day for relaxing, even though I wouldn't mind having a boxing match with her :D being on the ground for 10 seconds is a knockout! 08:50 LOL 08:50 not that kind of boxing XD 08:50 <{Demo}> my head is so fuzzy still 08:50 {Demo}: haha do you have a "Flauscheschädel"? :D 08:51 amateurhour: depends on your family situation. but at least you can more eating. but many people go to their extended family or other parts of the family and there are presents, too! 08:51 so two days of presents? sounds expensive 08:51 amateurhour: yes 08:52 back when grandma was still alive, we used to visit her on 25th 08:53 <{Demo}> I think I'm gonna eat a lot of cookies today 08:53 amateurhour: in my case, in normal years (yay, corona /o\) we'd go to the sister's place of $SO with their parents (driving ~1 hour). one set of presents from this side of the family for the kids. then we'd sleep there and the next day around noon would drive another hour to my parents' place. 08:54 that sounds like way too much effort and not relaxing at all! 08:54 amateurhour: so on 25th we'd be at my parents, with both my sisters, their $SO and their 3 additional kids. the same amount of eating as on the 24th and the presents from this side of the family. :) 08:54 <{Demo}> I forgot about corona 08:55 amateurhour: on the 26th it's resting or, if the weather is right, we'd go up the mountain going sledding 08:56 amateurhour: on the 26th we'd drive back (2-3 hours) 08:56 *27th 08:56 but that sounds like exercise and not at all restful 08:56 Lol I love stenno's 'mc' greeting - a true speedrunner. 08:56 you're not eating as much as the previous 2 days, that's already some kind of resting 08:56 bhaak: are you using the traaaaain to get there and back? :D 08:56 <{Demo}> I've never seen extended family on or around Christmas 08:57 LarienTelrunya: no. by car. train would be adding up to an hour for each drive and we have lots of luggage (presents and stuff) 08:57 aww 08:57 but I've heard the swiss trains are supposedly rather good 08:57 amateurhour: driving on the autobahn is actually quite restful. it's not too full and the view is nice 08:58 Amy loves trains tho lol 08:58 in fact I think I did travel with those on occasion :P they say "SBB CFF FFS" on the outside, what does that mean though? Schweizer Bundesbahnen is obvious, no idea what CFF is though, and FFS = for fuck's sake? 08:59 LarienTelrunya: the order is always "german, french, italian" in Switzerland. "Schweizerische Bundesbahnen", "Chemins de fer fédéraux suisses", "Ferrovie federali svizzere" 09:00 aoei: Swiss love trains almost as much as the Japanese 09:01 bhaak: oh lol I'd never have guessed! that makes sense then :D 09:01 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:01 I always pronounce it as if it was "SBB, CFF, for fuck's sake!" though 09:02 ha 09:02 merry xmas Pinkbeast 09:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:29532 09:02 Pinkbeast: haha, are you my brother by any chance? 09:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29533 09:03 LarienTelrunya: I don't _think_ so. I have a sister, but she's not German and doesn't develop a roguelike variant. 09:04 ah, that's unfortunate 09:04 didn't see my brother in years and it would have been nice to randomly meet him on IRC 09:04 aoei: Happy gluttony day! 09:04 Also everyone else 09:05 haha that sounds about right, I got gifted so much food that I'm afraid I can't eat it all before it rots 09:06 We're actually stuffing our faces on the 29th (because in non-plague years we see family on the 25th) 09:06 grandpa gave me a huuuuuge box of chocolate, my aunt gave me a big pack of italian cookies, and then I also have cherries, mousse o chocolate and more... 09:11 <{Demo}> i got a can of armour brand vienna sausages! 09:11 https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEurope/comments/kjbkoe/at_what_date_is_christmas_celebrated_in_your/ 09:11 this was an interesting thread about christmas traditions in europe 09:12 I always forget that for many countries the day for presents is January 6th 09:12 Pinkbeast: lol, not much gluttony for me this year 09:12 im skint as shit, tho i did manage to find a fiver i'd forgotten about and i got a few beers and a bag of crisps for that 09:13 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 09:13 So I saw. Bad luck (the few beers aside) 09:13 eh its alright 09:14 christmas alone means i dont have to suffer my mother's outrageous christmas tantrums 09:14 always a silver lining mate 09:14 peace on earth ;D 09:14 hehe 09:16 <{Demo}> today is indeed a day of gluttony 09:16 <{Demo}> and it makes me uncomfortable 09:16 come have christmas with me Demo 09:16 there will be sensible quantities of food only 09:17 <{Demo}> the gluttony is part of the fun 09:18 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 09:18 ah ok 09:18 <{Demo}> id rather eat large amounts of like, meat or something than cookies though 09:18 -!- Alasnuyo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:18 amateurhour: listenin to soad now 09:18 :D 09:19 <{Demo}> i was gonna say they should make a holiday about that but it already exists 09:21 * aoei blinks 09:21 isnt eating large amounts of meat the point of christmas? 09:22 <{Demo}> don't really like christmas ham too much 09:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible microlance's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:9907 09:28 i'm still full from last night 09:28 heh 09:32 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 09:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 16863 points, T:10831, killed by a bolt of lightning 09:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:33510 09:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 81 points, T:514, killed by a newt, while praying 09:39 nice 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Lord Sato, on T:17855 09:40 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:44 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the Rebel Ringleader, on T:34680 09:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the militant cleric, on T:34690 09:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the adventuring wizard, on T:34740 09:47 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 09:50 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 09:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 33 points, T:148, killed by a water moccasin 09:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4488 10:00 K2, you around? 10:01 yeah 10:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:5301 10:03 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 10:03 K2: Need my game recovered, started falling asleep during the wish prompt (because of course, why wouldn't I) 10:03 Keep getting the thing about "destroy old game" so 10:04 game is recovered 10:04 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 10:05 Oh good the wand isn't formally ID'd 10:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha) had a broad short sword entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:5684 10:05 means I can decide on my wish before zapping it now 10:06 K2: Thank you so much, sorry if it seems like I've been asking a lot lately 10:06 its ok 10:06 no need to apologize 10:10 I'd decided on dragonhide speed boots, if I recall 10:10 As well as a bag of holding (dragonhide possible for that?) 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:110 10:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] k2 (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:6630 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) permanently converted to neutral, on T:242 10:12 wait Cerb can spawn in dNet? 10:12 And that early? 10:12 yup 10:12 Sick 10:12 you can do vlads tower early if you want 10:12 F 10:13 no F 10:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:30449 10:13 :P 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 172 points, T:888, killed by a gnome zombie 10:14 F in the chat for accidentally perma-converting. 10:15 <{Demo}> hint: you dont wanna fight vlad early 10:15 <{Demo}> only clear up the the ww boots/ cpm/ aols/ holy water level 10:15 But of course 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2714 10:16 <{Demo}> and cause vlad and his harem are dangerous 10:16 <{Demo}> early game 10:16 yup 10:16 that was my plan 10:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 84 points, T:577, killed by a water moccasin 10:18 Go team {! 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 90 points, T:527, killed by a bear trap 10:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] k2 (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 godhands", on T:6804 10:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) was given Windrider, on T:36142 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:6700 10:22 There we go 10:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1121 points, T:1591, killed by a water moccasin 10:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3318 points, T:3013, killed by a wolf 10:24 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 10:25 gonna go warm up and then make absolutely sure I wanna try for a dragonhide bag of holding 10:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:25 (i.e. if it's possible) 10:25 wb raisse 10:25 it is 10:25 Oh good 10:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] k2 (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:7140 10:29 * K2 flexes 10:30 <{Demo}> lol 10:31 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided mind flayers dungeon wide on T:37086 10:31 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Gno Fem Cha), 31411 points, T:9564, killed by a red dragon, while praying 10:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) received the helm of the Dark Lord, on T:39362 10:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] k2 (Mon Hlf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of reflection", on T:7219 10:38 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 10:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:40712 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:14611 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 162 points, T:765, killed by a dagger 10:43 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 10:43 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1214 10:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:15213 10:48 -!- joes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2343 points, T:1637, killed by a warg 10:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 280 points, T:894, killed by a werejackal 10:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:17028 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1201 points, T:1207, killed by a bat 11:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 323 points, T:996, killed by a dwarf lord 11:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 37 points, T:61, killed by a fox 11:05 <@the_eternal_paradox> uhh if anybody's online 11:05 <@the_eternal_paradox> a little help using alt's DD editor? 11:05 Iunno what that is 11:05 <@the_eternal_paradox> Dudley's Dungeon :P 11:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) averted death, on T:42537 11:09 <@the_eternal_paradox> I don't know how to make something highlighted, e.g. a pet or a pile 11:09 Oh lol 11:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:42578 11:12 <@the_eternal_paradox> the help page doesn't help either :P 11:12 -!- sebastiantoby has joined #hardfought 11:13 -!- sebastiantoby is now known as Kontroller 11:14 RIP 11:14 wish I actually knew anything about DD editing 11:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered Katje, her faithful kitten, on T:1121 11:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1879 11:19 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 11:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 449 points, T:1471, killed by a hobgoblin 11:21 scoreboard is fixed (streaks etc.) but explore mode games are back (temporarily) 11:21 this will be solved shortly 11:22 what heresy is that anyway, since when can you play explore mode on public servers??? 11:22 It is kinda weird -- guess you set it in the nethackrc? 11:22 yeah you can set it in the rcfile 11:23 and it isn't supposed to count for scoring but it does show up on the NHS on the live site 11:23 I fixed it but broke streaks and some other things 11:23 if I'm not completely mistaken, explore mode for slex is disabled on the server (and IMHO rightfully so) :P 11:23 so i've reverted the live site and gonna work on fixes locally before updating the live site again 11:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3323 11:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 198 points, T:1454, killed by a magic missile 11:29 aoei: So should I resume my evil game yet then, or... 11:30 I stopped after my wish just to make sure it didn't get hecked again from unrelated stuff 11:30 uh idk Umby 11:30 (and also because I was cold) 11:30 what I do with the scoreboard should have no effect on any games you're currently playing lol 11:30 and even if it's temporarily broken fixes are retroactive nothing is ever missed 11:30 or at least not usually 11:30 what's the rc option for explore mode? 11:31 a big fuckup could lead to something being temporarily missed 11:31 amateurhour: playmode:explore 11:31 as in OPTIONS= that 11:31 alas, doesn't work for slex 11:31 boooooo 11:31 hisssssssss 11:31 ha 11:31 I'll take yer word for it then :B 11:32 lol I just said that it rightfully doesn't work 11:32 why would I allow players to easily clear out bones levels by harmlessly encountering them in a context where they can just defy death? 11:32 so players can explore 11:32 Umbire: like, worst case your ascension doesn't appear on the scoreboard for some days if certain things are broken 11:32 they can do that locally 11:32 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Sam Hum Fem Law) received advice from The Oracle, on T:2070 11:32 and see what torment awaits them in the late game 11:33 but the xlog entries should never be lost, therefore scoreboard can always be repaired later 11:33 Coo 11:33 Never stop never stopping playing evilhack 11:33 Oh fuck me 11:33 The wand only had the one wish 11:33 Yup, he's playing for sure! 11:33 Time to start wresting 11:33 Did you recharge it? 11:33 Do not wrest 11:34 It's evilhack, dude 11:34 oh, also, can you leave bones in explore mode? if yes, that's even worse, because you can wish up some uberkit and then deliberately leave bones 11:34 RNG wand of wishing, it's more than likely 1:0 11:34 Nevvver use an unID 11:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3483 11:34 See, that's the funny thing 11:35 I've actually never seen an rng /oW in evilhack 11:35 I was engrave testing, discovered it was a wand of wishing, and left the prompt open 11:35 while I tried to figure out my wish 11:35 unfortunately I got crashy and nodded off so the connection dropped 11:35 Oh yeah, I've lost evilhack wishes to open prompts before. My ascension-before-last K2 booted me at a wish prompt 11:35 first he takes your wish prompt 11:35 Luckily I got this recovered, though I lost a tiny bit of prog that's easily redoable 11:36 then he takes your dragonbane 11:36 Yup, that was the last one :-) 11:36 what else will K2 take from you before their lust for evil is satiated?! 11:36 Now my problem is one of "this wand only had one wish in it" 11:36 So now I have to sit and try to wrest out another 11:36 Not if you don't know if it has already been recharged, you're killing me 11:36 First /oW wish is always 2 blessed scrolls of charging if you don't have another mechanism for recharging 11:36 Then all subsequent wishes are for Dragonbane 11:37 Isn't any wand that's not the castle wand generated 1:X or something? 11:37 It Is The Way 11:37 No 11:37 from the wiki 11:37 > Wands of wishing are more rare to find randomly, and are always charged once already (1:x). The Castle wand is still created as having never been charged (0:x). 11:37 ^ 11:37 Ah, OK (as I said, never found one) 11:37 the_eternal_paradox: it sounds to me like you're asking about what config options to set, instead of asking about how to use some editor at alt.org. 11:37 If it wasn't clear I'm literally playing for the first time 11:37 !whereis 11:38 !whereis Umbire 11:38 Umbire: [hdf-us] Umbire [evil]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:6705 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 11:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 blue dragon scale mail", on T:3651 11:39 In any event, I know what I want my next wish to be, the problem is gonna be wresting it 11:40 the_eternal_paradox: if so, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#hilite_pet 11:40 Your next wish is blessed greased +2 Dragobane of excellence 11:41 I'm not prepared to take on a player monster in this state 11:41 (potential or otherwise) 11:41 50/50 11:41 i wanna try minturns in some variants eventually 11:41 Early in the game a camera or wand of sleep can be sufficient to take out an NPC 11:41 like in xnethack you can't scum for polykit because wizards don't get rings and wands, plus there's no random wows 11:41 I have the latter, but I'd rather be safe than sorry 11:42 so you have to scum for good shops instead i guess 11:42 probably much more challenging 11:42 Especially given Evil's almost made me sorry a few good times already 11:42 Then save the wish until you are prepared, you don't want to waste your 0-artifact wish 11:42 Awesome, wrest didn't take too long 11:42 I'm already prepared 11:43 I made the mistake of trying my luck wrt the new resistance thing and eating poisoned corpses 11:43 That better not be SDSM 11:43 I want a proper bag of holding before anything else currently 11:43 Have you done Sokoban? 11:43 No, and iirc you have 3 potential choices now don't you? 11:43 Bags of Holding are nice but they aren't critical 11:44 Yeah, you can choose amulet (reflection or MR), tool (bag or marker), armor (ummmm...some silly cloaks?) 11:44 the_eternal_paradox: so, on one line, you want OPTIONS=hilite_pet (or OPTIONS=!hilite_pet with '!' to turn it off) 11:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2123 points, T:1349, quit 11:45 I guess one of the armors might be gauntlets of protection which would be nice except of course DRAGONBANE 11:45 <@the_eternal_paradox> in the comic yes 11:45 <@the_eternal_paradox> and hilite_pile 11:45 the_eternal_paradox: ...and on another line, OPTIONS=hilite_pile for the piles thing 11:45 <@the_eternal_paradox> so how do I do it in DD 11:45 I... already have those though 11:46 Lucky ass start honestly, though it balanced out by having a spider nearly eat me on DL3 11:46 tinklebear: this is for dudley's dungeon web ui, not nethack 11:46 I don't know, the_eternal_paradox. not sure I even remember my alt.org password! 11:46 ah, thanks! 11:46 <@the_eternal_paradox> ok I'll just say in the footnote that I don't know how to highlight :P 11:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 338 points, T:1265, killed by an invisible dwarf 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1227 points, T:3171, killed by a wererat 11:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:45892 11:47 I'm probably gonna stick to the dragonhide BoH because I really don't feel like risking my game on a potential coinflip 11:49 You know there is a dragonhide +MC BoH one level above Medusa, guaranteed? 11:49 paxed: do you know the answer to the_eternal_paradox's inverted color question 11:49 * tinklebear is somewhat less confused now 11:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 543 points, T:998, killed by a dwarf 11:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:46297 11:53 <{Demo}> bad satan 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 522 points, T:2375, killed by a straw golem 11:54 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 11:54 Hmm, which microlance ghost is this 11:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) was given Ogresmasher, on T:46386 11:54 <{Demo}> thanks satan 11:54 is not a bad satan, actually a pretty good satan? 11:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 aegis", on T:5165 11:56 Well I know now 11:57 But I *don't* know if I'll even get that far 11:57 <@the_eternal_paradox> ah-ha newt color problem still isn't fixed 11:57 <@the_eternal_paradox> well whatever I submitted it :P 11:59 Ugh, fine, I'll risk the splat on Dragonbane 11:59 krm26: Does "of excellence" actually even work, though? 12:00 (not on Dragonbane, no) 12:00 Only on normal gear (blessed greased +2 T-shirt of excellence) 12:01 Missing 3 gear slots on a giant is sooooo brutal 12:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 667 points, T:1721, killed by a giant bat 12:01 'k 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 Dragonbane", on T:6744 12:02 Well, I'm not dead 12:02 I'll probably find a different way to deal with carrying capacity before long anyhow 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:32177 12:04 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 12:04 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 263 points, T:342, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:06 It is funny how surviving a ghost and a gnome lady with a wand of sleep at the top level of the mines is as challenging and satisfying as clearing the entirety of Gehennom 12:06 Oh yeah, I also have a ghost on the oracle level to clear out 12:06 One of Micro's giants 12:07 !variant 12:07 nabru: nh363 12:07 microlance is responsible for 95% of the evilhack bones economy right now 12:08 My last ascension was off a big room microlance ghost 12:09 I was there for that, yes 12:09 I hope my mind flayer larva statue with Mjollnir and a prepped bag of holding left a bones 12:10 That was a quality death to an infidel NPC with a wand of polymorph 12:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 822 points, T:1842, killed by a giant bat 12:10 I hope I'm not the one to find that 12:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:35859 12:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 152 points, T:1267, killed by a wand 12:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:22561 12:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:7990 12:24 yeah some of my giant bones are pretty great i think. 12:25 xnh wizard, luckstone get and mines left in 2k turns/20min 12:25 not too shabby 12:25 You're doing the lord's work microlance 12:25 i wonder if my giant with sword of bheleu who got wanded to death at oracles has been taken yet 12:26 aosdict: oh i noticed a weird bug btw 12:26 i have taken some screenshots 12:27 microlance: Was that the one where two of the fountains got used up? 12:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 242 points, T:537, killed by a gnome 12:29 !rng do sokoban | DfV 12:29 aoei: DfV 12:29 :o 12:29 r u shur Beholder ? 12:29 what if i die D: 12:29 i guess then i try again hehe 12:29 i dont know maybe 12:31 Alright so 12:31 Wands of make invisible 12:31 is the invisibility still permanent or 12:32 !tell aosdict some stuff in menus (xnh/windowtype:curses) is doubled. see screenies: https://0x0.st/iCRI.png https://0x0.st/iCR0.png https://0x0.st/iCRl.png https://0x0.st/iCRU.png 12:32 Will do, aoei! 12:33 Oh snap 12:33 First mounted enemy 12:33 And there's someone with a sleep wand 12:33 hoo boy 12:35 Alright, made it 12:35 Loving that combat's way more pitched and every move counts 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9436 12:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 122 points, T:511, killed by a water moccasin 12:37 have fun today folks, i'm out for awhile. send me a !tell if you need a game restore, etc 12:37 o/ 12:37 Be well and merry Christmas! 12:38 ...smoky is fruit juice 12:38 Huh™ 12:39 K2: lmao, uh 12:39 my xnh game just crashed lol 12:39 i'll throw a !tell in at some point if you're already gone 12:39 :c 12:39 have a good one, K2. and thanks! 12:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5991 12:43 aoei you so lucky about to walk out the door 12:43 hdf-eu right? 12:43 yeah 12:43 thanks lol 12:43 sorry 12:43 what username exactly 12:44 Ooh! 12:44 oh right 12:44 I forgot, you can poison daggers now 12:44 ok out the door :P 12:44 <3 K2 12:45 hugs 12:48 So if I get another wish from this smoky potion I ID'd and plan to bless 12:48 What should I go for 12:48 idk 12:48 more markers? 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6451 12:49 What do you mean more, I'm still in the mines 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:4496 12:52 ah 12:52 a marker? 12:52 :3 12:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3849 12:52 idk if you can even wish for them in evil tho 12:53 you can 12:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3923 12:53 cool 12:53 brb 12:54 Well, Minetown 12:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 3296 points, T:6718, killed by a tiger 12:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3196 points, T:4689, killed by a bolt of cold 12:55 ...well, gnomish wizards... 12:55 :s 12:55 OH 12:55 coaligned temple! 12:56 <@p0werm0de> lucky 12:56 And the two wizards are right inside 12:59 I think the third should be easy to kill 12:59 But first 13:03 Ah, damnit 13:03 Displacement or invisibility 13:03 Tough choice 13:03 Displacement 13:04 I'll leave displacement on for now if only to make shopping easier 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 459 points, T:1263, killed by a wererat 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Rambler, on T:2691 13:06 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:5705 13:07 Oh boy, a hobbit got zombied apparently 13:07 Sadly, my microlance ghost was an unequipped giant barbarian microlance who fainted from lack of food :-( 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 334 points, T:401, killed by a dwarf 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3299 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3322 13:12 Oh hi chameleon 13:13 Boo, zoo Minetown with an all-candle Izchak 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 649 points, T:633, killed by a gnome lord 13:21 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792094723481010206/unknown.png 13:22 <@mtf> gotta love it when smoky potion is booze and you get the gnome kings cellar for mines end 😄 13:22 Mine's fruit juice 13:22 Just need an amethyst now :B 13:23 -!- joes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:23 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 13:24 <@mtf> Hah that's probably second best 13:25 <@mtf> Also I didn't know about the amethyst interaction, but now I know every version of mines end has an amethyst... neat! 13:25 Yep yep yep! 13:26 ...problem is anything below Minetown probably bodies me 13:27 <@mtf> Just avoid the mineflayers and poly traps and you should be fine =P 13:27 <@mtf> Mind* 13:27 :B 13:27 I might have to go there anyway, DL 10 has downstair in a throne room 13:27 with an Elvenking... 13:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 265 points, T:828, killed by a water moccasin 13:29 YASI: mine flayers, every square they walk on becomes a landmine 13:30 <@mtf> no no they flay mines, meaning they destroy all landmines they come in contact with 13:30 <@mtf> eating them, becoming stronger 13:31 <@mtf> you have to fight the final boss mineflayer in the gold room behind croesus 13:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] sflicht (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 271 points, T:1159, killed by a marid 13:32 Wew 13:42 A Mordor orc riding a mumak zapping a wand of fire in Minetown, hard pass 13:44 I just got boring old Uruk-Hai 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:5650 13:44 ...oh. 13:44 So not only did I forget lawfuls shouldn't use poison stuff, but 13:44 (more pressingly) 13:44 Uruk-Hai have poison res 13:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:26742 13:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:53815 13:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:3787 13:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3894 13:50 <@p0werm0de> wtf mindflayer with wand of cold on gnome lvl 1?? 13:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Law), 3653 points, T:3945, killed by a bolt of cold 13:50 lmao rekt 13:50 seriously though, that blows 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Law) had a pair of cloth gloves entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:7668 13:52 :/ 13:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:31043 13:52 :Q 13:52 :/ 13:52 does rent count as a christmas movie? 13:53 I mean it's not a BAD gift 13:53 but it's not gonna replace Dragonbane anytime soon 13:53 Are you going to use it wisely, Umbire? 13:53 The +5 enchantment is a very nice touch though 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 216 points, T:563, killed by Mr. Asidonhopo; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 13:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:57 * tinklebear wonders why Huan Ti always says that. 13:58 Also Tyr said "valorously" so 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:11397 13:58 ah. 13:59 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28359 13:59 Umbire: Last ascension I got two pairs of gauntlets of fumbling from Tyr 13:59 So he has issues 13:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:20901 13:59 I mean these just seem like normal ass gloves 13:59 -!- werekitten is now known as misha 13:59 Well-enchanted blessed normal ass gloves granted 14:00 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) received Vorpal Blade from Chih Sung-tzu, on T:14218 14:00 "There are also rules in place to make sure your deity doesn't give you something that you can't or wouldn't want to use (read: a wizard getting plate mail)." 14:00 lol 14:01 Yeah, I guess K2 uses fumbling in his ascension kit :-) 14:04 . 14:04 aosdict: Message from aoei at 2020-12-25 12:32 EST: some stuff in menus (xnh/windowtype:curses) is doubled. see screenies: https://0x0.st/iCRI.png https://0x0.st/iCR0.png https://0x0.st/iCRl.png https://0x0.st/iCRU.png 14:04 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided liches dungeon wide on T:28773 14:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:05 Yo aos 14:06 also a crash apparently. good thing paniclog is public 14:06 I see nothing on eu paniclog aoei 14:09 aoei: I also cannot trivially reproduce scroll and potion doubling in curses menus. any information that would help with reproducing? 14:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:55304 14:10 <{Demo}> 0:96 14:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 648 points, T:1622, killed by a gnome king 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:12525 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:12558 14:15 Chameleon on L6, ugggghhh 14:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:40640 14:18 I got one in this Minetown 14:18 Just an owlbear fortunately 14:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40642 14:18 something invisible -> frost salamander -> baluchitherium -> run away 14:19 [hdf-us] [fh] groovejumper (Sam Hum Fem Law), 63286 points, T:13477, killed by a soldier ant, while fainted from lack of food 14:20 Go team a! 14:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4327 14:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:56067 14:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 137 points, T:432, killed by a sewer rat 14:26 <{Demo}> another 0:96 14:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:5625 14:26 <{Demo}> it's almost like it is christmas! 14:26 Max marker 14:26 what are the odds of getting two 0:96 in a row 14:27 maybe I should play something, rng is being santa today 14:30 <{Demo}> isn't max 0:99? 14:31 Oh right, I never met that unicorn since I didn't... 14:31 oh... 14:31 ...bummer. 14:31 Ah well, nevertheless. 14:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:5406 14:32 [hdf-us] [un] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:30230 14:34 merry christmas devteam I have a present for you. what's inside? a vanilla bug report 14:35 o: 14:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 266 points, T:861, killed by a giant bat 14:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1512 14:39 aosdict: hmmmm. not sure but I did have to ask K2 to recover the game 14:40 aosdict: are there any rcfile settings you can think of that might be relevant? 14:40 no 14:40 heh :/ 14:40 idk then 14:40 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 14:40 i don't remember doing anything particularly unusual 14:41 Hi zhakupov 14:41 stupid stupid stupid now its an arch-lich 14:41 aosdict: I can load my game again and see if it still happens post-recovery? 14:42 it does lol 14:42 and it crashed again 14:42 crashed when I tried to access options in-game 14:42 some text flashed but it was too fast for me to read it 14:42 not gonna bother K2 again about a recovery now 14:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:6773 14:43 tho i suppose i did technically just ping him 14:44 Umbire: hi 14:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 6071 points, T:10122, killed by a rothe 14:50 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:17023 14:52 <@mtf> wtf I love smoky potions now 14:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed +2 fixed dragonhide speed boots", on T:57284 14:57 {Demo}: No, Max is Agent 86. 14:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:57 -!- joes_ has joined #hardfought 14:58 -!- joes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792119148402573382/unknown.png 14:58 -!- joes_ is now known as joes 14:59 <@mtf> Hey @FIQ , is it intended that I get spammed constantly with cumbersome messages when wearing armor as a monk? 14:59 <@mtf> I have max luck and I think enough levels not to miss, yet it's constantly hitting me with this 14:59 Agent 99's name, I do not know. 15:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42279 15:05 Hmhm, a mithril scimitar 15:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zhakupov (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42281 15:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Cav Hlf Mal Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:29171 15:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 12640 points, T:3092, killed by a horse, while fainted from lack of food 15:09 Oh wow, I actually have no metal stuff on 15:10 So I can free up rust monsters without going out of the way 15:10 Yay 15:14 ...I can't tame rabid dogs can I? 15:14 :c 15:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 770 points, T:1182, killed by a gnome 15:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:18439 15:19 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "historic blessed very greased fixed thoroughly diluted holy very glowing dragon scales named bhaak made me do this", on T:40863 15:19 There's no wish like a hothraxxa wish 15:20 Yo thrax! 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8379 15:23 Why did I think that was shallow water... 15:24 Brain just short-circuited 15:24 didn't lose much but damnit that was avoidable 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:8897 15:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 297 points, T:1506, killed by a gnome 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 12732 points, T:9402, killed by a panther 15:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Sam Inc Mal Law), 4948 points, T:1886, killed by a Movanic Deva of Raijin, while fainted from lack of food 15:28 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: zhakupov] 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:70219 15:29 A lamp o: 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 187 points, T:658, killed by a water moccasin 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3585 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:70262 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 33465 points, T:16314, killed by a doppelganger imitating an alhoon, while jumping around 15:33 Ow 15:33 Should be called alhoonhack 15:33 lol 15:34 killed by while jumping around, cruel 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:70392 15:35 Looking forward to the gelatinous alhoon that paralyzes, the draconic alhoon that engulfs, and the alhoon-lich that curses 15:36 look instead forward to the 0.7 alhoon that you can't genocide 15:36 that's going to be "fun" 15:36 saw it in time to dig down. jumped instead. now I know. 15:36 goddamn it I hope that has nothing to do with the suggestion I made last month 15:36 Well, I know who to gut if one of those shitters ends my run 15:37 no, there is a plan for a new branch with a boss lich 15:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7952 15:37 A boss lich would be great. I hope they model it off of Xykon from Order of the Stick 15:37 you have to kill the boss lich first to get rid of liches and alhoons 15:37 That is a great branch idea 15:38 nethack needs an OotS reference 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3871 15:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] tromix (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 10103 points, T:8238, killed by a gnome lord 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3932 15:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:4445 15:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3099 15:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1065 points, T:4612, killed by a werejackal 15:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:58466 15:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Mother Hydra, on T:58494 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3558 15:50 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 15:50 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 15:50 Yo Luxi 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3826 15:51 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Client Quit] 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby gray dragon, on T:21854 15:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 552 points, T:1591, killed by a gnome lord 15:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:6 15:59 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 16:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:58737 16:02 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:02 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 11444 points, T:7669, quit 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 11278 points, T:6081, quit 16:05 Welp, first incubus encounter 16:06 ...baw 16:06 !lastgame brandon 16:06 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/brandon/nethack/dumplog/1608823184.nh.html 16:06 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:06 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 16:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:08 Hm, spear trap did a decent amount of damage 16:08 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Client Quit] 16:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 508 points, T:1621, killed by a werejackal 16:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:31290 16:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 Dragonbane", on T:31293 16:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Dragonbane", on T:31294 16:12 D:? 16:12 Double type? 16:12 second one worked, but now Yvette the Roamer has appeared 16:12 Oooooooooooooh. 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:5781 16:12 first artifact wish failed 16:12 ...what's Roamer again... 16:12 * Umbire wikis 16:13 Ah, cavefolk 16:13 Dangit, I reflexively swat an acid blob and corroded my long sword 16:13 Yvette the invisible Roamer rises up, through the ceiling! 16:13 WITH my Dragonbane 16:14 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:14 The chase is on! 16:14 :-) 16:14 gotta escape the castle first... 16:14 do player monsters intelligently use c!oGL? (ie as an escape item) 16:14 or do they use it unintelligently, like they wanted a level up 16:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:15 because they ought to use it intelligently 16:15 the second one 16:15 YANI then 16:15 ditto for various other monsters that could be presumed to have buc-identified the potion 16:15 ^ 16:16 for maximum complexity, base it on monster id so that e.g. 50% of liches are treated as if they have the buc knowledge and the rest don't 16:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4231 16:17 Aye 16:17 At the least player monsters should know the identity of their inventory 16:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:4461 16:17 ...I mean *ideally* 16:18 dang accidentally punched a friendly temple priest. Is there any way to calm them down? 16:19 bouquet: taming if you got it 16:19 charm monster or scroll of taming might work 16:19 thanks. I'll have to find some of those. 16:20 before they kill you, preferably 16:20 :D 16:22 oh oh, my first shambling horror 16:23 "The shambling horror breathes water!" omg 16:23 Yeah but good luck getting anything from said priest now 16:25 fuuuuuck.... 16:25 :( 16:25 D: ? 16:25 The shambling horror smashes you! You get zapped! 16:25 goodbye rings and wands 16:26 The shambling horror's tentacles suck you! 16:26 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 16:26 so far that thing seems to have everything but vorpal 16:26 that's horrid 16:26 jesus lol 16:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:32223 16:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5784 16:27 Lord 16:27 AND NOW IT HAS STUNNED ME 16:28 wtf 16:28 F 16:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5922 16:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:28 I am very fast, but it's not giving me the time to zap it with death 16:29 is this the end of mobi le brave :( 16:29 knight jumped away 16:29 oh, nice thinking 16:29 that is the funny thing with jumping 16:29 it doesn't matter that you're stunned 16:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an arrow on an altar, on T:6165 16:30 You kill the shambling horror! The death ray bounces! \o/ 16:30 brave sir mobi ran away, ran away away 16:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed +3 fixed godhands", on T:60160 16:30 no she zapped wand of death :-) 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 532 points, T:1178, killed by a straw golem, while fainted from lack of food 16:31 nice one mobileuser, I would have just let myself die or hit #quit :P 16:31 wait you can jump precisely when you're stunned? 16:31 yes! 16:31 amazing isn't it? 16:32 sounds like a bug tbf 16:32 but idk how to handle it otherwise 16:32 one that has been there for ages 16:32 doesn't mean it's not a bug :) 16:33 now my lev ring and free action ring are gone :-( 16:33 didn't yeenoghu's touch of death last several versions 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:23858 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3289 points, T:2410, petrified by a cockatrice 16:33 you don't need free action anyway, pay for your actions like the rest of us 16:33 hahahah 16:33 woo! That did it and got me crowned. 16:33 there's no such thing as a free action. someone somewhere has to pay for it 16:34 free action for everyone!!! 16:34 universal free action! 16:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed the Nightmare, on T:60358 16:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:60372 16:36 ah I see you got your favourite chaos variant demo 16:38 [hdf-us] [un] Thidwick (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:23442 16:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:60550 16:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:60720 16:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:60752 16:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:31363 16:45 oh fuck my slow digestion ring is also gone 16:45 hopefully the VotD will provide 16:45 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 16:46 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:46 or custown 16:47 what town? 16:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Garland, on T:60781 16:47 orcustown :) 16:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:60799 16:47 ah, bit far down :-) 16:47 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 16:48 the "can jump accurately while impaired" thing is one of the things that differentiates non-spell jumping from the spell. 16:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 475 points, T:1165, killed by a silver crossbow bolt 16:49 can't cast while impaired 16:49 exactly! 16:49 but still, if you can't move accurately, why would you be able to jump accurately 16:50 not that I'm complaining :-) 16:50 you can pound with a polearm accurately, so why not jump as well? 16:50 while stunned?? 16:50 Sick, water prayer also restored my stats 16:50 you're right, we need to make stunning more dangerous 16:50 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:50 no we don't. I just note it :-) 16:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:51 !tell K2 just gushing about how much I love the feel of EvilHack, don't mind me <3 16:51 I'm on it, Umbire. 16:51 personally, I think the way things are currently is interesting 16:51 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:51 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 16:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:805 16:51 it makes jump boots, for example, something more than just "crap version of the spell" 16:52 Umbire agreed! 16:52 how to convince mobileuser to try dnh 16:53 dnh is the one where it matters if weapons are blunt or not? 16:53 I think? 16:53 yeah 16:53 that sucks 16:53 blunt is the best one generally anyway, only early game monster that it blows for is zombies 16:54 and they've been toned down now 16:54 furthermore, the bosses are so powerful that you need to avoid them 16:54 not everyone avoids them, see microlance and their demon-killing rampages :^) 16:54 microlance is unique :-) 16:54 when I played dnh the various weapon types were rather annoying 16:55 sometimes I got into the situation where I could do hardly any damage to a monster, and it could do hardly any damage to me 16:55 sounds like zombies 16:56 mel* sephirah or something 16:56 my priest got owned by a blue jelly on stairs ;-) 16:56 a blue jelly?? 16:56 yeah, blunt weapon no good 16:56 you melee those? 16:56 Yeah, with amorphous stuff like that I think you need slicing damage? 16:56 I had no other option at the time 16:57 a blue jelly before the mines? :S 16:57 No objects to throw? 16:57 sokoban and I wasn't motivated enough to turn back because of a stupid blue jelly 16:57 so I died 16:58 huh 16:58 Honestly dNet is the next variant I wanna play 16:58 It looks like it has s o m u c h 16:58 it does, it's epic 17:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed mithril amulet of flying", on T:31369 17:01 last wish from the wow, it's not been great 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 369 points, T:1778, killed by a wererat 17:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 8953 points, T:4192, killed by a rope golem 17:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2651 17:07 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: brb] 17:07 BAW 17:07 no wish off the smoky juice 17:07 Ah well 17:08 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 17:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Law), 18177 points, T:14221, killed by a fire ant 17:10 finally, Dragonbane! 17:10 ^ krm26 17:12 Go team a! 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:25061 17:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] sflicht (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 463 points, T:1220, killed by a magic missile 17:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:21 Alright, so just plain cursing is the sign of a mage enemy 17:21 Getting used to that 17:21 Building neurons and shit 17:22 LOL they tried to ice blast me 17:22 Alright, enough of that 17:22 Puttin' em down before they actually hit me with something dangerous 17:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 897 points, T:1488, killed by a wand 17:27 ...EvilHack gray ooze isn't acidic to eat? 17:28 Interesting 17:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:31974 17:30 ...so this gnome was trying to zap this wand at me... 17:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed Orcus, on T:62148 17:32 I mean they missed me because lol displacement 17:32 But what is it... 17:33 OOH cancellation IDs when it hits a monster 17:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:2471 17:33 Intuitive! 17:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:34 Anyway the wand zapped at me was just striking 17:34 Hi raisse 17:35 ...dwarf turned herself into an ogre queen for some reason 17:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:62323 17:39 Umbire do you happen to be acid resistant? wearing a smock maybe? 17:39 I wish 17:39 When I found out I had a wand of wishing yellow DSM was very much on the menu 17:40 hmm I would expect gray ooze to be acidic 17:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Daemon, on T:62465 17:40 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:40 I mean it was an easy kill with a steel dagger 17:40 But also I was thinking the corpse would give me stomach acid as usual 17:40 Wait wait 17:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:5910 17:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1216 points, T:5913, quit 17:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Demo2 (Nob Hlf Mal Cha) killed Glasya, on T:62582 17:42 "The gnome lady asks whether you've seen any untended shops recently." 17:42 ????? 17:42 huh? 17:42 lol 17:42 That's a weird thing for a random NPC to say 17:43 I'm used to expecting that from actual shopkeeps 17:43 you are chatting to them? 17:43 Yes 17:43 Just a plain gnome lady 17:43 to the source... 17:43 I wouldn't consider it urgent just 17:43 out of the blue 17:44 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 17:44 anyone remember chatting up random NPCs in Ultima? There was one that would always say "Hexy-poo a hex on you!" 17:44 unfortunate things I remember 30 years later. 17:45 I smell a new idea... 17:46 yeah the untended shop thing is supposed to be said when entering an untended shop 17:48 ^ K2 a little unimportant mystery :-) 17:48 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792161823180718100/putty_Mfdb4MYtFz.png 17:48 <@Umby> With corroboration 17:48 thx 17:49 YANI: random lost shopkeepers can be found in traps and pacified by untrapping them, possibly offering a discount or a gift 17:52 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:44813 17:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed the Watchdog of the Boreal Valley, on T:16500 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 300 points, T:384, killed by a piranha 17:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed the Bastard of the Boreal Valley, on T:16544 17:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:17031 17:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nob Hlf Fem Cha), 259679 points, T:17034, killed by the wrath of Dark Sun Gwyndolin 17:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 41 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34180 17:58 !lastgame microlance 17:58 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/dnethack/dumplog/1608910658.dnh.txt 17:58 Umbire: you seem to assume that gnome lady was not an "actual shopkeep". 17:59 if so, I wonder why you assume that. 17:59 hey luxidream 17:59 when do you want your christmas present? 17:59 c: 17:59 I literally rescued her from a pit a floor below Minetown for one 18:00 and? 18:00 (her location makes shopkeep status rather likely, no?0 18:00 shopkeeps have a name? 18:00 ^ 18:00 Like hello? 18:01 the name thing is a good point. 18:01 Also there would've been a hole in Minetown 18:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 173 points, T:606, killed by a large mimic 18:01 Or somewhere higher 18:01 bones makes a lot of things possible 18:01 I would've said something if there were any bones in the Mines :v 18:01 e.g. "fuck I still don't have a blessed weapon" 18:02 ...maybe I can just punch micro's Oracle ghost with Dragonbane 18:02 * Umbire think 18:02 thinks* 18:03 you have dragonbane?? 18:03 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:03 that explains the acid res then 18:03 Yeah I figured 18:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 73 points, T:524, killed by a goblin, while sleeping 18:03 (though I got sidetracked looking it up) 18:04 Hey Reba 18:04 Why acid resistance specifically though 18:04 In retrospect that's 18:04 great! 18:04 but also unusual. 18:04 <@nabru> !booze 18:04 * Beholder hands @nabru a tall glass of the hooch, prayed over by Izchak at 51 degrees Celsius. 18:04 yeah reflection and acid res 18:04 that is why many players want dragonbane 18:05 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:05 damnit, jellyfish are poisonous to eat 18:05 hm 18:07 any bone weapon like a dagger will do for fighting ghosts btw 18:07 I have a bone short sword on me btw 18:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:418 18:07 (also don't get the logic behind that( 18:07 *) 18:07 heh 18:07 The reason I have DBane is because krm26 bullied me into wishing for it with my wrested wish 18:07 lol 18:08 Granted I can see why it's so desirable 18:08 But I wasn't keen on testing my luck against a potential player monster 18:08 yeah that can ruin your early game 18:08 also FUCK those spear traps hurt 18:09 evil 18:09 Aw man, cursed platinum darts 18:09 ...still picking them up 18:10 Also have a bitchin' mithril scimitar but no skill points to up the skill with yet 18:11 what role/race are you playing? 18:11 Standard 18:11 <@riker> !whereis microlance 18:11 @riker: [hdf-eu] microlance [dnh]: No details available 18:11 Lawful valkie 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 1480 points, T:1822, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 18:11 It's my first game so I wanna focus on hitting shit until it dies to learn the ropes 18:12 basic skill then 18:12 decent weapon 18:13 Oh, there's a giant zombie now. 18:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6834 18:16 How do I put these fucks down permanently 18:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:4555 18:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 872 points, T:4666, killed by a werejackal 18:18 NO 18:18 not the goddamn catacombs 18:19 zombie city 18:19 Mummy city too 18:19 Fuck this, taking my chances with the throne room 18:19 I have my iron longsword so 18:19 And I'm way more equipped in general 18:21 good luck Umbire! bedtime for me. 18:21 Sleep well! 18:21 thx! 18:21 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:26 ...wait my lamp's been on whole time without running out 18:26 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:26 Magic lamp? o: 18:26 YANI inspired by mobileuser: Shambling horrors randomize their attacks per-monster, not per-species. That keeps them being very scary while avoiding the problem of setting their difficulty - a small part of the game's difficulty - at game start invisibly to the player. 18:27 * Umbire nods 18:29 <@nabru> Uh, just got mextra substruct 0 already exists on Pegasvs on my current dnh game 18:29 <@nabru> !whereis nabru 18:29 @nabru: [hdf-us] nabru [dnh]: (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) T:909 The Gnomish Mines level: 7 18:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1068 18:30 <@nabru> I tamed a pony by throwing him an apple, then left it behind for a few turns. When I came back, it was not highlighted as tame so I threw another apple and got said warning 18:31 <@nabru> Saved and restored the game and apparently all is ok 18:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:34838 18:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Nob Hlf Fem Law), 1667 points, T:1004, killed by a rolling boulder trap 18:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Nob Hlf Fem Cha), 6718 points, T:2960, killed by a metroid 18:34 DOG 18:34 I got a new pet now 18:34 (and can finally use my magic whistle 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3304 18:38 ...right, pets only eat when hungry 18:38 gonna have to get used to that now 18:39 I've played variants where you had to be mindful of their satiation status 18:39 if they had just eaten a huge chunk of meat, throwing a tripe ration for apport would cause them to choke 18:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) was given the Lifehunt Scythe, on T:3265 18:41 ugh, gonna need to learn repair armor at some point 18:41 or weapon if that exists 18:41 YANI: attempting to charge something that can't be charged (eg by typo) just reprompts you for something to charge. The only way to not charge anything is by hitting escape. 18:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:42 Also, if you're not carrying anything, it should print a message to that effect rather than apparently prompting you to select an item from your nonexistent inventory. 18:44 nabru was that dnh game started today? 18:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35006 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:26830 18:49 Back at micro's bones, decided to liberate a silver dagger and a wand 18:49 need a bag for all this shit I have like yesterday 18:49 Now where's that ghost... 18:51 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 18:51 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:46833 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:11813 18:52 <@nabru> amateurhour, yep 18:52 <@nabru> but I already died 18:52 And ghost exterminated 18:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5823 18:54 ah right, as a fix for that is meant to have gone live today, at about 1pm UTC nabru 18:54 so guessing it's not really fixed yet 18:55 sheesh, LOT of mosquitos 19:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:5727 19:03 aoei: Valks in evil still has intrinsic stealth and such right? 19:03 lol don't ask me 19:03 I barely play evil 19:04 baw 19:04 amateurhour: ? 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 362 points, T:1649, killed by a riding accident 19:05 ...they evidently do not. 19:05 Or the fighting woke them, who knows 19:05 OH SHIT 19:05 I forgot, elfs =/= orc 19:05 They're fighting 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 70 points, T:252, killed by a wand 19:05 * Umbire hurries to engrave WORLD STAR in the floor 19:06 I don't think they had their intrinsics changed from vanilla 19:08 * Umbire maxes scimitar skill 19:08 Time to put this mithril bad boy to use 19:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5036 points, T:2010, killed by a blue dragon 19:09 that was... not great, 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6493 19:10 <@nabru> !lastgame tangles 19:10 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dnethack/dumplog/1534858827.dnh.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/slex/dumplog/1523968901.slex.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1608909920.nh.html 19:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35551 19:11 ack, polytrapped, huh? 19:12 I got lucky a peaceful found the one polytrap I saw 19:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6700 19:13 apparently elves don't care for gnomes 19:13 or he swung for an afterimage of me 19:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] every2 (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 146 points, T:182, killed by an electric shock 19:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35553 19:14 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 30 points, T:166, choked on a jackal corpse 19:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:35573 19:15 Elvenking down! 19:16 Man that's a whole new set of throne room strats right ther 19:16 there* 19:17 I'm gonna use this chest as my stash 19:18 In the meanwhile 19:18 Piss, got -5 constitution 19:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:8623 19:18 ...and it was nice enough to give a point back before poofing 19:18 Anyway 19:19 Nice place to stop and make some food 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 201 points, T:669, killed by dipping a worn object into a forge 19:24 note to self: my shambling horror YANI from earlier is probably best merged into #2991 19:24 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:24 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 19:28 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 543 points, T:1429, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 19:30 ugh sleeping gas traps are the worst in the early game. 19:30 that was a promising start too. 19:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] nabru (Nob Hlf Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1280 19:32 :c 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:12053 19:34 Dammit 19:34 can a monk hit with a rubber chicken and maintain weaponless conduct? 19:34 yes 19:34 It's not a weapon 19:34 it's chikin 19:36 thank you 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Elf Fem Cha) murdered Sirius, her faithful little dog, on T:678 19:39 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) defeated Medusa, on T:20347 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 830 points, T:741, killed by a wand, while praying 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:12509 19:41 Goddamn it 19:41 Every flipping time I find a random bag 19:41 ah rip 19:42 F 19:43 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:43 Yo stenno 19:44 From 2 bags of holding plus a sokobag to 0 in 1 minute flat 19:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:50 * arahael wonders what *does* an elephant steppign onto a peanut sound like? 19:50 krm26: Reminds me of my incredibly frustrating ascension I had in tnnt. :D 19:50 krm26: Blew up a BoH in soko. Lost... Everything... 19:51 krm26: Then right the moment when I was ready to begin the ascension run... Blew up the other one. 19:51 3.6 rules, too, so lost the whole ascension kit. 19:51 :/ 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:9404 19:52 Yeah, I didn't lose everything (although the only thing of any value was the bag of holding :-) 19:52 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 19:52 Yeah, so much better in newer variants. 19:53 Hi arahael! 19:53 It just randomly spews everything in evil, too, doesn't it? 19:53 Umbire: Hey. :) Playing vanilla again, myself. 19:53 Ascended my phone Tourist finally! 19:53 I'm sick, so don't want to think much. 19:53 Trying EvilHack as a reward 19:53 Umbire: Oh, nice! How long did that take? 19:53 And I'm actually doing pretty okay? 19:53 I... did not keep track 19:53 Def. 6 digit turn-count though 19:54 Well, roughly. As in - days, weeks, in real time from beginning to end. :D 19:54 Eg, if you started on monday, and finished today, then that'd be... 19:54 * arahael checks calendar... 19:54 Eh, stuff it. Half a week. 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:29765 19:55 I literally don't remember the start date lmfao 19:55 I've played on and off over several months 19:55 Hmm, So probably "weeks", then. Congrates. 19:55 Or if that's me, then "days" could be just as plausible. ;) 19:56 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:56 lol 19:56 Evil's also going damn great too 19:56 Took out my first throne room, that Elvenking had an arm on him 19:56 Yes, but beware the high-powered monster. Evil has a 'more level playing field". 19:57 Pls 19:57 I almost got eaten by a giant spider DL3 19:57 Right. 19:57 Or the gnome in minetown who just happens to have several peices of enchanted dragonhide armour. 19:58 For me, what killed me in the last few games was me trying to kill the rat king. I've never succeeded. 19:59 I've only seen his level once 19:59 <@FIQ> @mtf I mean it's a vanilla thing 20:00 <@FIQ> but I should probably make the message come with a hints-style message and force the player to read it once 20:00 I've had a mostly... stable experience so far 20:00 <@FIQ> but then be silent until the player changes armor 20:00 Even got an early WoW! 20:00 <@mtf> heya fiq 😄 20:00 <@mtf> I didn't get these crazy messages during my monk run in TNNT 20:00 Hi FIQ! 20:01 it only prints on miss in vanilla 20:01 <@FIQ> @mtf hm then 3.6 might have changed things? 20:01 <@mtf> not sure 20:01 <@mtf> just seemed like a lot of spam 😛 20:01 <@FIQ> @luxidream#0000 oh that is new I think 20:01 so it's less spammy because the player doesn't miss much :p 20:01 <@mtf> ahh that makes sense luxi 20:01 <@FIQ> I could just port 3.6 behaviour then 20:01 Umbire: That's incredible. 20:02 <@mtf> also, another question.. I"m running through castle right now with conflict on but I havent' seen a monster fight another monster one time yet 20:02 Umbire: Wishes are much rarer in evil, iirc. 20:02 <@mtf> I am invisible though... conflict doesn't happen to rely on being seen does it? 20:02 <@FIQ> @mtf conflict has a 8-tile ball radius 20:02 <@FIQ> and it probably does, actually 20:02 Plus being invis means the monsters won't tend to home in on you. 20:02 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792195670878322748/unknown.png 20:02 <@FIQ> I remember there being a visibility check 20:02 They're rarer by virtue of the wands coming pre-charged 20:02 <@mtf> like in this fight, no soldiers are attacking each other 20:03 <@FIQ> but it might have been intended to make monsters not be affected through walls 20:03 Outside of the guaranteed one at the castle 20:03 Umbire: Not only that, but the monsters tend to be more likely to use those charges. 20:03 <@FIQ> and thus inadvertly changed by NH4 by accident 20:03 <@mtf> ah, hmmm 20:03 <@mtf> I'm just surprised at how less effective conflict seems right now in FH than in vanilla 20:03 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 20:04 hi again reba 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "The Master Key of Thievery", on T:840 20:04 <@FIQ> I want to nerf conflict but I haven't yet 20:04 <@FIQ> so it ought to behave the same 20:04 I 20:05 <@FIQ> or maybe sheer willpower nerfed it :P 20:05 <@mtf> I didn't get to use it before going invis so I'm not sure if the behaviour is the same normally 20:05 Oops -- I've given up using conflict in evilhack with the charisma reliance 20:05 <@mtf> but seriously right now I don't see any monsters attacking each other 20:05 FIQ: Why nerf conflict? If you don't like it, reduce the radius, or even make it probalistic, eg, "for each monster, you've got a 40% chance of causing conflict". 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:13498 20:05 <@mtf> cause conflict is super OP lol 20:05 <@FIQ> @arahael#0000 conflict in vanilla is very, very powerful 20:05 <@mtf> it makes the game ez mode 20:06 krm26: Ah, that sounds like another good option. 20:06 <@FIQ> and I think at least some of it is unintentional 20:06 FIQ: Yeah, its too powerful in vanilla - but that doesn't mean it should be nerfed entirely... 20:06 <@FIQ> what I had in mind for revised conflict was to make a conflict pass at endturn and everyone affected does a forced melee attack at a random nearby monster 20:07 <@FIQ> but make it no longer interfere with monsters' agency otherwise 20:07 <@FIQ> @arahael#0000 you know what nerf means, right? :P 20:07 I think conflict should only make monsters who can't reach you beat on whatever is handy -- creatures who can get to you should still focus on you 20:07 <@mtf> why force "melee" attack? why not just forced magical or melee attack? 20:07 <@FIQ> making something weaker 20:07 <@FIQ> not "make something useless" 20:08 <@mtf> would be cool to see liches cast spells on other monsters too 20:08 rld: Apparently not? :) 20:08 <@FIQ> @mtf main reason was that I also wanted it to be able to affect players 20:08 @mtf there's no code in vanilla for monsters casting spells at each other 20:08 <@mtf> ah, makes sense 20:08 FIQ: Ah, I see, yeah, makes sense. 20:08 and I'm not sure where it is for them making ranged attacks at each other 20:08 that might exist, or not 20:09 <@FIQ> aosdict: 3.6 adds mvm ranged combat but it is somewhat limited 20:09 <@mtf> hmm... so right now invis is actually a super bad intrinsic isn't it, since it disables conflict 20:09 <@FIQ> I tried to add mvm casting a while back but the code for monster spellcasting is kinda messy 20:09 mtf: I'd still prefer invis to conflict. 20:09 <@mtf> shit, how do I get rid of invis 20:09 <@mtf> I wouldn't xD 20:10 <@FIQ> to vanilla I mean 20:10 <@mtf> though it is nice in FH that monsters sometimes bump into you and waste their turn 20:10 I reckon conflict should have an alignment penalty as well, unless you're chaotic. 20:10 <@FIQ> I've considered tweaking how invis works in fh 20:11 FIQ: Yeah? 20:11 <@mtf> invis feels much stronger in FH than in vanilla 20:11 <@mtf> which is cool, but still not strong enough to use over conflict 20:11 <@FIQ> making it work less well against higher-level monsters and work less well without stealth 20:11 <@FIQ> also would allow players to see invisible monsters 20:12 <@FIQ> if they're lower-level or not stealthy 20:12 <@mtf> I'm with you on the first part, but not sure about the second... 20:12 <@mtf> don't we already have a see invis intrinsic? 20:12 Ye 20:12 <@FIQ> see invis is too strong for how easy it is to get 20:13 In evilhack there is no permanent see invisible, it is temporary 20:13 <@FIQ> it basically completely neuters the point of invisible monsters 20:13 Just nerf the blessed potion of see invis 4Head 20:13 <@mtf> for sure 20:13 krm26: Eh? I always seem to have it, playing as monk... 20:13 Isn't that like the only source besides the ring and uh 20:13 But endgame you always have warning, telepathy, or ESP 20:13 stalker corpses? 20:13 <@FIQ> the ring is fine to keep 20:13 <@FIQ> but the intrinsic shouldn't be as easy to get as it is 20:14 <@FIQ> perhaps even limited to wonder 20:14 <@mtf> just buff invis stalkers and remove it from their corpse 😛 20:14 <@FIQ> and jewelry eating 20:14 <@mtf> but tbh telepathy is what neuters invisible monters 20:14 Eating jewelry is cornercase, games where things are the wrong material are frequent 20:14 <@FIQ> it should also work vs telepathy and monster detection 20:14 <@FIQ> hah 20:15 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 20:15 How can monsters be visible if their minds aren't visible 20:15 🤔 20:15 something something eyes aren't real 20:15 -!- Alasnuyo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15 Telepathy isn't really vision is it? 20:16 There could be a few levels of invisibility and see invisibility, like there are 3 MC levels 20:16 See 1, 2, and 3 with invis 1, 2, and 3 20:17 With no permanent see 3 intrinsic, only extrinsic 20:17 Like most normal dungeon monsters 1, most gehennom 2, most vlad/sanctum/planes 3 20:18 That could be something 20:19 Telepathy could revert to warning symbol for invisible monsters (partially effective) 20:19 <@FIQ> YANI: chronomancers, a monster who can invoke an ability that allows them to make several moves at once 20:19 You mean like unicorns :-) 20:19 somewhere, stenno has an aneurysm 20:20 <@mtf> sounds like fun 20:20 <@mtf> random multi-turn rounds for a monster does sound scary 20:20 Omae wa... 20:20 <@mtf> btw @FIQ , not to pepper you with questions on xmas, but can you remind me what vanilla strats work in FH astral again? I'm wondering about: 1) Conflict (though I guess this is out cause I'm invisible?) 2) Tele Wand Spam 3) Death Wand Spam 20:20 *mou shinderu* 20:21 <@mtf> nani! 20:21 <{Demo}> guys I need an amulet of magical breathing 20:21 * Umbire snaps as mtf suddenly takes several hits out of nowhere 20:21 <{Demo}> I overate 20:21 <{Demo}> irl 20:21 <{Demo}> and now I feel like shit 20:21 <@FIQ> @mtf the amulet of yendor gives slotless aggravate monster 20:21 Too late for that, grab your ring of sustain ability 20:21 <@FIQ> which negates invisibility 20:21 {Demo}: What you need now, is to enter in your food coma, and just sit and watch movies. :D 20:21 YASI: scroll of nausea 20:21 <@FIQ> you can't telewand stuff on astral 20:22 <@FIQ> deathwands should work fine but they have a habit of missing high-Def monsters 20:22 <@mtf> oh, nice 20:22 <{Demo}> I'm gonna rewatch some more stargate sg1 in like an hour 20:22 <@mtf> ok so conflict is still the way to go then? 20:22 <@FIQ> (but no worse than in vanilla) 20:22 <@FIQ> actually deathwands should work better in fh because of wand rebalance 20:23 <@FIQ> allowing it to bypass reflection 20:23 <@mtf> my monk is expert wands too 😄 20:23 <@mtf> wait don't expert tele wands work in astral? or was that changed 20:23 <{Demo}> wand destruction patch 20:23 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 20:23 <@FIQ> @mtf not anymore 20:24 <@FIQ> I didn't like how the strat was arbitrarily limited to the roles who are the strongest in the game at that point anyway (casters) 20:24 <@mtf> makes sense to me 20:24 <@mtf> I like it better this way 20:24 <{Demo}> so they work like vanilla again or nah? 20:24 <@FIQ> @{Demo}#0000 they don't work at all 20:24 <@mtf> nah, no tele wands in FH astral 20:24 <@mtf> means you actually have to fight through the hordes 20:24 <{Demo}> I remember there was a point where they were blocked on no tele levels unless you had skilled? wand 20:24 <@mtf> way more interesting 20:25 <@FIQ> at first it required master skill 20:25 <@mtf> but ok, amulet will make me visible so my conflict should work 20:25 <@mtf> sounds like thats the premier strat 20:25 <@FIQ> later on I changed it to only require skilled to make it less restricted to make non-spellcasters able to use the strat too 20:25 <@FIQ> but then it basically became like vanilla unless you were a barbarian 20:26 <@FIQ> so eventually I removed it entirely 20:26 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:27 <@mtf> big fan 20:27 <@mtf> my monk found a finger of death book 20:27 <@mtf> wondering if he'll be able to use it 20:27 <@FIQ> probably not 20:27 <@mtf> 😦 20:28 :c 20:28 <@FIQ> level 7 spells are really hard to get castable for non-wiz 20:28 <@mtf> also wait a min, you said agg monster nullifies invisiblity right? so does that mean I could fix this problem if I commited cannibalism? 20:28 <@FIQ> maybe monks can with double robe bonus 20:28 <@mtf> yea I was hoping to see 20:29 <@FIQ> @mtf it would negate invis yet 20:29 <@FIQ> but I don't know for sure invis is what is making conflict not work 20:29 <@mtf> oh, I see 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:13435 20:31 <@mtf> well I was planning on relying on it given that my +7 vorpal takes 4 hits to kill a lizard sometimes, but since it didn't work I was forced to behead every soldier in the castle 20:32 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8991 20:33 Vorpy is awesome, I once had to use vorpy, as a damn monk, in astral, to behead an absurdely powerful player monster. 20:34 It had enchanted-everything, so the AC was through the roof. 20:37 I think vorpy is not that great of a weapon but I'll use it and won't go any effort to upgrade if I happen to get it 20:37 it's very satisfying to behead monsters 20:38 but I feel it's rare enough that's mostly "cosmetic" thing than something that actually helps me finish the game 20:38 Adeon: to quote our good friend... 20:38 it's funny when you bump kill the wizard by accident 20:38 I ascended neutral valk with a +2 longsword! 20:38 sounds about right, vorpy isn't much better 20:39 yeah pretty often you are buff in other ways and your main weapon isn't that important 20:39 I like the scimitar 20:39 I think I ascended a +7 scimitar game 20:40 Scimitars are cool 20:40 i may have ascended with an enchanted mattock once 20:40 it's very decent for a weapon that's likely to come up early game 20:40 not sure 20:40 and ye it's the wielder what makes the sword 20:40 but mattocks fucking rule 20:40 mattock is great too 20:40 I mean mattocks are solid weapons 20:40 mattock is greater than scimitar 20:40 mattock is one of the best non-artifact weapons in the game lol 20:41 And giants can dual-wield them in evilhack 20:41 atheist artiwishless chars will want a good non-artifact weapon unless they luck into a random artifact 20:41 i think the saber is very overrated for a weapon that is virtually identical to a scimitar early game 20:41 giants seem a bit of a glass cannon. absurdly high attack and reduced defense capacity 20:41 yeah saber is just awesome vs silver haters 20:42 otherwise it's what 20:42 d8/d8 20:42 yeah the saber isn't that cool 20:42 by the time the silver bonus gets applied you are already very likely buff in other ways 20:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed the Watchdog of the Boreal Valley, on T:14954 20:42 saber is overrated because OMG YOU GOT A SILVER WEAPON, THOSE DEMONS ARE GOING DOWN!!!11!1! 20:42 katana is nice 20:42 ... 30 levels from now. 20:42 it's like longsword but slightly better 20:42 but you rarely see it unless you're a samurai 20:42 yeah aosdict I blame the wiki 20:43 I like daggerstorm, because then you get to build your weapon from scratch 20:43 the early game is where you are most likely to die 20:43 who gives a crap what happens at gehennom 20:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) destroyed the Bastard of the Boreal Valley, on T:14978 20:43 indeed Adeon 20:43 Also werewolves. 20:43 so scimitar everyone in the face 20:43 what damage does scimitar do? 20:43 same as saber lol 20:43 1d8 flat 20:43 ah right 20:43 yeah i just checked 20:44 very decent for such a common and early dweapon 20:44 its exactly the same lol 20:44 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:9729 20:44 I think most classes just have problem that it starts as unskilled 20:44 and arc can get to skilled 20:44 <@mtf> yea vorpal is not my wep of choice, but it's what my god gifted me... 20:44 i must keep this in mind 20:44 <@mtf> and it's better than fists as a monk 20:44 <@mtf> maybe I'll get lucky and find a brand on the ground on the way to end game 😛 20:44 barb doesn't care because she starts with one of the highest damage weapons in the game 20:45 apparently they buffed barehands in vanilla 20:45 i gotta play monk again 20:45 but roles like arc and tou def. wanna be on the look out for scimitar 20:45 <@mtf> huh, really 20:45 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:9982 20:45 it doesn't deal 1 damage on a min roll anymore 20:45 I mean saber is solid generally 20:45 <@mtf> isn't scimitar a meme weapon 20:45 I'm not gonna top tier it just because it's Gehennom proof 20:45 But it's good 20:45 nah mtf it's so common that you'll probably find one that has an enchantment 20:45 Also scimitars are underrated if anything 20:46 therefore making it good 20:46 luxidream2: +2 one on Perseus 20:46 lol @ needing the scimitar at perseus 20:46 <@mtf> yea but would I ever use a scimitar over basically any artifact? 20:46 Who said anything about "need" 20:46 right, the whole point isn't so much saber sucks, it's that many people overlook scimitar 20:46 <@mtf> on arc I'd prob rather just use a uni horn or something 20:46 mtf depends when you get an artifact if at all 20:46 And that's not the scimitar's fault either 20:46 mtf: we're talking about early early game before you get an arti 20:46 because lolartifacts 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed tsingi's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5412 20:46 you know, the time you are most likely to die 20:47 yeah and unihorn may take a while to get hold of too 20:47 YANI: artifact scimitar called dragon scimitar 20:47 <@mtf> hmm, fair 20:47 i should maybe go to bed 20:47 luxidream2: don't forget, next goal: sub 30min, ultimate: beat SWAGGINZZZ 20:47 I don't even know what time zone you're supposed to be in aoei 20:48 it's almost 3am here luxidream2 20:48 i live in Hamburg 20:48 lol go to bed 20:48 germany 20:48 yea im going :v 20:48 I can do sub 30m with stuffed bones 20:48 it'll be boring and dumb though 20:48 ok so stuff some bones motherfucker 20:48 do it anyway 20:49 and use the alt "luxwozheer" 20:49 I have to farm up 50 gain level 20:49 <@mtf> I've found 4 wishes so far this game, but I"m still disappointed to find an 0:1 WoW in the castle 20:49 and hope that game drops bones 20:49 how about no 20:50 :( 20:50 fine 20:50 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:21038 20:50 Why does it show your name twice again? 20:51 he is mtf with a character named mtf 20:51 <@mtf> my acct name is mtf and my char name is MTF 20:51 probably one of the variants that lets you choose different character names lux beat me too it and so did mtf 20:51 Oh nice 20:51 presumably to flush out some of the stupid names on the fh scoreboard 20:51 :P 20:51 <@mtf> think I'mma wish for rev geno and nurse dance 20:52 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 20:52 No markers? 20:52 nurse dancing sucks 20:52 imo 20:52 no its op 20:53 just because you don't have time to do it doesn't mean its not good :P 20:53 I ascended with mostly just 2-3 regular nurse interactions 20:53 I'd considered more but I had to stop my pets killing them constantly 20:53 then said "fuck it" and tinned a couple in case 20:54 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 20:54 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 20:54 luxidream2: i swear you dont' get all that much HP per nurse tho 20:55 <@luxidream> you get a bunch 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed archon figurine", on T:2271 20:56 <@luxidream> Cap depends on your level I think 20:57 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:57 Potion polypiling seems to yield much better results with less effort 20:57 i guess the real question is 20:58 how many average hp for an xl14 char from a single revgeno 20:58 no wait the real question is why do i give a fuck, i should be in bed 20:58 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:59 <@mtf> nurse dancing was proved to me to be super OP during TNNT 20:59 <@mtf> can't believe I never did it before that 20:59 <@mtf> it's a ridiculous amount of HP from like 3 geno scrolls 20:59 <@mtf> and yea I have markers but I don't know geno =/ 20:59 <@mtf> also b/c this is FH I just got a shitton of sweet armor from the castle 20:59 Oho 20:59 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792210003121143818/unknown.png 20:59 <@mtf> small shield of speed is cool 😄 20:59 mtf: Even nursedancing random nurses in gehenno is worth it. 21:00 i don't want "a ridiculous amount" 21:00 i want numbers :V 21:00 hi 21:00 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 21:00 K2: Message from Umbire at 2020-12-25 16:51 EST: just gushing about how much I love the feel of EvilHack, don't mind me <3 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5910 21:00 <@mtf> from 96 HP to 225+ hp 21:00 K2 <3 21:00 <@mtf> heya k2 😄 21:00 yo K2<3 21:00 aoei i recovered your game and gave a copy of your save to aosdict 21:00 nice thanks K2 21:00 werd 21:00 i am not touching that game til aosdict tells me its safe lol 21:01 <{Demo}> super lotsa added stuff explosive saves hack 21:01 aoei: THe game where I ascended after killing death no fewer than 5 times and still had over 200 HP... I actually started that with over 300 HP... from nurse dancing, and I never rev-geno'ed even, for that. 21:02 If I reverse-geno'ed in somewhere like soko, I'd imagine over 500 would be quite trivial? 21:02 <@mtf> rev geno in castle corners seems like the best 21:02 <@mtf> cause the nurses can't even run away 21:02 they do eventually disappear altogether 21:02 but yeah no-tele levels are ideal 21:03 and if you're just realtime speedrunning and can spend turns I *guess* they're okay 21:03 I SUPPOSE 21:04 Bored 21:04 Gonna EvilHack again 21:05 Gimme a sec to make sure this thing charges while I play 21:05 {Demo}: not super lotsa added stuff hack - explosive saves? 21:05 <{Demo}> yeah aosdict i thought of that after and it made more sense 21:05 <{Demo}> but didnt want tocorrect it cause then id be wrong 21:06 <{Demo}> also cause then everyone would have to read basically the same thing twice 21:06 <{Demo}> that they probably didnt want to read once 21:07 SLASH'ES 21:07 <@luxidream> Nah it is bad for speedrunning aoei 21:08 ok so why were you even defending this nurse crap then 21:08 forget nurse dancing 21:08 it's rubbish 21:08 <@mtf> cause normally it's awesome 21:08 <@luxidream> It’s great for normal games 21:08 <@mtf> gimme a sec and I'll tell you how much HP I get 21:08 normal games? 21:08 <@luxidream> In speedruns all the hp will get eroded by same race polyself 21:08 do you always use polyself for RT runs? 21:09 and what are these normal games you speak of 21:09 <@luxidream> If I have it I’ll use it 21:09 i thought only RT and minturn exists 21:10 <@luxidream> Ok then it’s not good for the way you play :p 21:10 thank you 21:10 i knew i was right all along! 21:11 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:21285 21:11 lol 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3680 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3723 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:19664 21:19 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:21486 21:20 luxidream: rofl: https://nethackscoreboard.org/realtime.nh36x.html 21:20 that one is literally just you and SWAGGINZZZ 21:20 https://nethackscoreboard.org/realtime.nh37x.html <-- bit more diverse 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4138 21:21 whenever I see that name I imagine the nazgul rolling up to the shire and asking around "Have you seen SWAGGINZZZ?" 21:21 https://nethackscoreboard.org/realtime.nh34x.html oh hey you do have a 343 speedrun 21:21 aoei is the NHS fixed now? 21:21 not exactlyl 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5910 points, T:4165, quit 21:21 I reverted the explorer fix 21:21 thus fixing streaks 21:22 ok 21:22 but explorer mode games are back, temporarily 21:22 there arent too many of those from what I could see 21:22 yeah but it's still a problem 21:23 i havent scanned every single xlogfile on hardfought but the ones i have scanned there were only a handful 21:23 yup 21:23 just need to tweak the exclusion logic so it actually just excludes explorer mode games 21:23 because the original "fix" was excluding all kinds of shit i think 21:24 ah 21:24 as for streaks i am pretty sure i know why that happened 21:25 i changed some import logic so that start/deathdate AND start/endtime are both saved in the db (previously it was an XOR) 21:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13510 21:25 but other logic in the codebase assumes no start/endtime if start/deathdate are present 21:26 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 aegis", on T:17334 21:26 and this is fucking up streaks, as well as resulting in only a date being shown in the time field of game tables on the website 21:31 i'm sure you'll get it sorted 21:31 well obviously i will 21:31 :D 21:31 pfft obviously (in valley girl voice) 21:31 lol 21:31 whatEVAR 21:31 losAR 21:32 aoei: your flags.inv_order got corrupted somehow 21:32 huh 21:32 can it be that this is in fact somehow related to packorder? 21:32 packorder is flags.inv_order but it's saved with the game so changing it in rc won't do anything for this particular game 21:32 hm 21:33 im gonna remove it from my rcfile anyway lol 21:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) became the Darkmoon Champion, on T:17835 21:33 the problem is that instead of being zero terminated it's got 17s up through the end of the string, so a strcpy leads to a buffer overrun 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kokushu, on T:18495 21:34 curious 21:34 i think i will go to bed 21:34 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class 'L', on T:22205 21:34 drop me a !tell if it's safe to resume the game lol 21:34 did you ever change packorder in-game 21:34 no i did not 21:35 pretty sure i didnt touch options during play 21:35 night aosdict 21:36 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class 'h', on T:22213 21:36 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:37 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class 'D', on T:22214 21:37 How does one remove a boulder one is standing on? 21:38 As in, read a scroll of earth, and it produced 9 boulders, but I need that middle boulder destroyed before I break out of the fort. 21:38 <@mtf> pickaxe works doesn't it? 21:38 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:38 Yeah that should work 21:38 dig down yeah that should work i guess, even if it tries to dig a hole first the boudler will fill it haha 21:38 ^ 21:39 Hopefully you're not also in the hole 21:39 Wait lemme wiztest somewhere 21:39 (or someone else do it but lemme use this as an excuse to install NH finally) 21:40 I'm also on stairs... 21:40 On upstairs, specifically, so no pushing the boulder down. 21:40 actually no I have it installed... 21:40 ...how to wizmode 6_9 21:41 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:22383 21:41 Zapping striking downward should work. Or polymorph. 21:42 Or stone to flesh. 21:43 Hm, I could zap striking downwards - neat. 21:44 Weird that it has a whole other .exe for the tiled version of NetHack 21:44 But hey ho 21:44 Yep, that works. 21:44 * Umbire should figure out how to install tiles next 21:44 Umbire: Yeah, it's basically recompiled with the tiles option, iirc. 21:44 imho not that weird. Old-school, maybe. 21:44 So weird 21:44 :B 21:45 Heh. :) 21:45 Quips aside, lemme get to this wizmode thing 21:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:18279 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:22853 21:48 Striking works, confirmed 21:49 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 21:49 Umbire: I'm curious what would happen if you went down a staircase that was then blocked by a blouder - and every space near it was also blocked by a boulder? 21:49 Stone to flesh down works 21:49 Nice. 21:49 No idea, I'll test in a moment 21:49 There a way to access previous input so you don't constantly have to retype 21:50 The gurr ports let you actually scroll down a list of previous prompt input 21:51 Nice. 21:51 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 124754 points, T:33178, killed by a priest of Amaterasu Omikami 21:54 I'm asking that as a question btw an-- 21:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6196 21:54 whoa the fuck did you do 21:54 !lastgame samiam 21:54 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/samiam/nethack/dumplog/1608907355.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/samiam/nethack/dumplog/1582658194.nh.html 21:54 <@mtf> oooof 21:54 ...ring of conflict around a priest 21:54 You FOOL 21:54 NotLikeThis 21:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:38043 21:56 Umbire: Ouch. 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:23451 21:59 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:22727 22:00 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792225321659006976/r77mWCIbvY.gif 22:00 <@Umby> ^ arahael 22:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +5 helping hand", on T:18865 22:03 Umbire: Good to know that a pickaxe won't do it! 22:03 (Regardless of the stairs) 22:03 I thought it was odd that it would let you at least start digging down on the stairs, though. 22:03 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:04 <@Umby> It gives the text but doesn't really do anything 22:05 <@Umby> stairs aren't blocked by boulders on the same square as you unless you actually move away 22:05 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792226448156524555/Fc7LlES67x.gif 22:05 <@mtf> hmm, seems like there's a hard cap on nurse dancing eh? 22:05 <@Umby> ? 22:05 <@mtf> I got from 144 hp to 240 in 2 rev genos 22:06 <@mtf> third rev geno has only got me from 240 to 244 22:06 <@mtf> (in FIQHack) 22:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:7082 22:06 Hm 22:07 Wiki says the cap is xplvl*25 22:08 <@mtf> I'm level 14 22:08 <@mtf> so it should be 350 22:08 <@mtf> couldn't get past 244 tho, weird 22:08 "The chance of a nurse raising your max HP is 1⁄7, provided that your maximum is less than 5 × xlvl + [2 × xlvl]d10." 22:08 Muad: That from FIQhack's page specifically? 22:08 Umbire, no 22:08 Ah 22:09 So either changes were made 22:09 Or else just incidental diminishing returns 22:09 <@mtf> FIQ adjusted how hp scales in the game 22:09 Banking on the latter but I have nothing concrete to base that on 22:09 <@mtf> I'm wondering if that affected nurse dancing 22:09 Could be related, would have to hear it from the u's mouth 22:09 <@mtf> 😛 22:10 <@mtf> how's this for an ascension kit 22:10 Anyway lemme stop fooling around and actually resume Evil 22:10 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792227815063683122/unknown.png 22:10 Not bad 22:11 <@mtf> orb of fate too 22:11 Neat 22:11 <@mtf> vorpal feels weak tho =/ 22:12 It's a monk, you probably have it at Basic 22:12 <@mtf> I do 22:12 using weapons as a punchyboi :'( 22:12 Idk how FIQ does skill levels but I feel like that's a primary factor 22:12 <@mtf> but it's not the to-hit that's the problem 22:12 No I'm not saying that 22:12 <@mtf> just doesn't do any dmg lol 22:12 I'm saying the skill cap on gifted artifacts is probably hampering the damage 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3557 22:13 <@mtf> does skill give damage bonuses? 22:13 <@luxidream> yea 22:13 <@luxidream> vorpal sux 22:14 <@luxidream> you get +1 damage for each skilled, expert 22:14 <@luxidream> so it helps a little, but not much 22:14 <@mtf> oh, pfft 22:14 <@mtf> that's like nothing 22:14 <@mtf> no brands in the castle either T.T 22:14 <@luxidream> vorpal only has +1 damage bonus, so not much better than an ordinary long sword 22:14 <@mtf> right 22:15 <@mtf> oh btw, FH is based on 3.4.3 right? so does scare monster not work on quest nemesi? 22:15 <@luxidream> FIQ ported a bunch of 3.6 scare monster/elbereth changes 22:16 <@luxidream> I don't think you would be able to scare monster Kaen 22:16 <@mtf> hmmm 22:16 <@mtf> dude conflict just doesn't work right now 22:16 <@mtf> I don't know why 22:16 So it's probably the whole "basic skill" thing as I speculated 22:19 <@mtf> hmm its working on some monsters? 22:19 <@mtf> probably those that can see invis 22:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a large cat, on T:16346 22:21 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792230566862651429/unknown.png 22:21 <@mtf> I am currently experiencing a marilith storm 22:21 <@mtf> can't kill them fast enough T.T 22:21 Omigod I hate NPCs with polymorph wands 22:22 >marilith storm 22:22 you wot 22:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] hearsegirl (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:7054 22:22 <@mtf> they just keep summoning more mariliths 22:22 Like legit Oops! All Armlady Snakes? 22:23 That's 22:23 huh. 22:23 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792231019717591050/unknown.png 22:23 <@mtf> they just keep coming! 22:24 this is probably someone's dream fanfic scenario except an actual nightmare 22:24 instead of just a figurative one 22:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:18899 22:24 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:18901 22:25 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:25 <@luxidream> if you have conflict on, they gate in more in NH4 when they melee each other 22:25 <@luxidream> so don't do that 22:25 <@mtf> omg really 22:25 <@luxidream> yep 22:25 <@luxidream> guess who learned this on the priest quest 22:26 imagine a demon bar brawl 22:26 <@mtf> dear god man 22:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ns_WerNDg audio only for an impression of what I think when shit like that goes down 22:27 ohhhhhhhhhh boy. 22:27 water elemental in the hall. 22:27 <@mtf> lmao as soon as I took of conflict it was fine 22:27 <@mtf> that's crazy 22:27 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 22:27 motherfucker almost drowned me 22:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:29 I still need to figure out some solution to water elemental engulfing you on the plane of water, carrying you into water and then drowning you 22:29 that (and luxidream lobbying) was the only reason I got rid of them having engulf suffocate attacks 22:29 In xNet I assume 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:19043 22:30 Oh. 22:30 That's the garden. 22:30 ...full of nymphs. 22:31 Ohhhh. 22:31 * Umbire slowly backs away 22:31 (also v. nice touch) 22:32 <@mtf> omg fucking mariliths gated in yeenoghu and juiblex 22:32 <@luxidream> dnh has breath so you don't drown instantly 22:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:35 holy shit 22:35 did you interrupt a "party" or something? 22:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:19238 22:36 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:40 <@mtf> lmfao 22:40 [hdf-us] [fh] MTF (mtf) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 85504 points, T:24946, zombified by an invisible human zombie called "MTF" 22:40 <@mtf> I am an idiot 22:41 <@mtf> so here I am 22:41 <@mtf> looking at the source 22:41 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792235566522433566/unknown.png 22:41 <@mtf> thinking, "oh, ok, so there's one final message that indicates your last chance before you turn into a zombie" 22:41 <@mtf> ... guess what, there's not 22:41 <@mtf> lmao 22:41 :[ 22:42 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:42 <@mtf> an ez victory thrown away to stupidity 22:42 YASD: FIQ edition 22:42 <@mtf> there was just like 50 zombies in a row 22:42 Speaking of courting the reaper 22:42 <@mtf> I didn't want to waste holy water on unihorns =/ 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Elf Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:8911 22:43 <@Umby> what happens if I dig in this wall 22:43 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/792236027715911700/unknown.png 22:43 <@Umby> 🤔 22:43 <@mtf> the universe implodes 22:43 oh boy, that's my favorite death! 22:43 * Umbire starts digging 22:43 No, but seriously. 22:46 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:15511 22:46 Umbire: Just tape it back up when you're done. She'll be OK. 22:48 <@Tone> Some of those can have high level monsters in them, not sure about that one though 22:48 Yeah, that's the impression I got 22:48 <@Tone> There's one with undead including liches, but I think it's a four tile square 22:49 That was what I first thought of, but then I wasn't sure 22:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:20384 22:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:20459 23:01 Umbire, you get cursed. 23:01 what did I tell you about breaking into tombs? 23:07 Only on Sundays? 23:07 And today is...? 23:07 Not Sunday... 23:07 * Umbire hangs head 23:08 Welp, prayer succeeded but no stat change 23:08 Unfortunate but worth the shot 23:08 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 23:12 Licherally how do I stop these motherfuckers resurrecting 23:13 mass burial? 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:10599 23:16 I'm talking EvilHack zombies 23:16 bury. the. corpses. 23:17 This a half-joke or? 23:17 it's not something I have tried, but I see no reason it should not work. 23:17 dig a pit near a boulder. toss bodies in. cover with a boulder. dust off hands. 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6823 23:21 What boulder. 23:21 there's a scroll for that, if you lack a boulder. 23:22 I know. 23:22 It was less an actual question 23:22 (well half that) 23:22 and more a general lamentation 23:23 ah. 23:23 yeah, everything else I can think of, I've tried, and to be honest the results weren't worth the effort. 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] asus (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 10843 points, T:10618, killed by a bolt of lightning 23:24 this method is a bit more effort, but I'd be surprised if it were not effective. 23:25 And, I mean, no matter what you do, there'll be more. 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7515 23:31 Fucking fuck, nothing on the page 23:31 page? 23:31 NO 23:31 fucking bit my dog 23:33 anyway EvilHack has most of its info on its wiki page but nothing about permanently putting down zombies 23:33 guess I'll have to sus it out myself 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4046 23:38 You could also lock the corpses inside a lockable container until they rot away. Works for T. Why not Z? 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4554 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4554 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4828 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Magician, on T:19280 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4836 23:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 35020 points, T:8011, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 23:42 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "gnight"] 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:6554 23:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] microlance (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:23521 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 8041 points, T:6799, killed by a quasit, while frozen by a potion 23:50 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 23:53 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:57 FORT LUDIOS! 23:57 My very first time. 23:57 And incidentially, first vault i stumbled into in the game, too. (Or possibly the second) 23:58 Only AC:2, though, which is a problem.