00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:29474 00:00 and first mysterious force interference, tossed me elsewhere on the floor 00:00 not too far thankfully 00:01 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:01 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] ToneRobin (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 214281 points, T:35213, killed by a minotaur 00:02 right, portal was on this floor so no teles 00:02 good thing I still have leftover gain level 00:04 gonna retrieve my gems, any backup rations I might want, then make a beeline for the top 00:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:09 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:10 and there's a curse from Rodney, Magicbane ate it 00:12 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] ToneRobin (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1334 00:17 umbire, who's your pet there? 00:17 >pictured: me, Nick my silver dragon, and Jazz my vampire lord 00:18 I see, so that's Jazz I see 00:18 Ye 00:18 Another curse attempt eaten by MBane 00:18 bug_sniper: I kitted him out super well, he made a lot of use of Vlad's spare CPM 00:19 I see 00:19 eventually I just whipped up a whole new suit of SDSM for him 00:19 AC is at -19 IIRC 00:20 well, I usually don't get there until the endgame 00:20 oh no that's Jazz's AC 00:20 I'm at fucking -30 00:21 Rodney please stop trying to curse my shit 00:21 can't a gal have some storm giant in peace 00:21 and mysterious forced 00:23 hi Rodney (x3) 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:3045 00:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 612 points, T:1308, killed by a killer bee 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 18462 points, T:11739, killed by a giant mummy 00:31 Hi raisse 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3755 00:36 Only like 3 mysterious force teleports so far, all same floor... 00:39 Up to Asmo's floor now 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5253 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5354 00:43 Is there even anything worth paying a priest for now 00:45 strike that, finally got another point of protection 00:49 actually I think I have everything! o: 00:49 just want my gems and backup food 00:50 if you pay 600xlevel you can get clairvoyance I think. 00:51 I know that but I've already got the Amulet and I'm heading out of the VotD 00:51 * Umbire is on the ascension run 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:11681 00:54 25 floors away 00:56 oh well that was rude, Rodney popped up while I was speeding towards the upstair just after I said that 00:57 I'm convinced Nick's gonna get some kinda poisoning the amount of times they've eaten dead Rodney 00:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6063 01:01 dang. Down to my last 10 magic markers :P 01:05 oh no 01:05 how will you ever ascend now 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:706 01:09 I'll just write my memoires about life in the dungeon. 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 452 points, T:1102, killed by a brown mold 01:10 and messageless horde of nasties 01:11 this'll take a bit 01:11 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:11 hi again Raisse 01:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:13 wew this is the most damage I've taken in a while 01:13 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 01:14 rikerrrr 01:15 im always here 01:15 just not always on this end :) 01:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3005 01:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] Arahael (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4793 points, T:2253, killed by an Olog-hai 01:18 rikersan: I'm 18 floors away from the Planes 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1581 points, T:3045, killed by a fire ant 01:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:7557 01:23 Made it to quest portal on DL15 01:24 retrieving stash of gems 01:24 stash of rations in 3 floors 01:24 This feels so good 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 450 points, T:1174, killed by Ms. Enniscorthy; the shopkeeper 01:37 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 01:38 Hey stenno 01:40 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 01:42 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:44 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 01:45 3 floors awawy... 01:45 No force fuckery, Rodney's been quiet 01:47 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 01:47 Oh. 01:47 That's where my Archon went. 01:47 Of course he got fucking level ported that far... 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3457 01:48 still tame at least? 01:48 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 01:49 Considering they got levelported up 20 floors before I even got on my way to dealing with Rodney... 01:49 OH GREAT NOW THERE'S MORE MONSTERS 01:50 I think I just lost Nick again but due to all the charming I had to do to not get swarmed 01:50 ugh... 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1848 points, T:3712, killed by a dingo 01:51 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:52 also forgot about umber hulks, accidentally untamed my vampire lord... 01:53 nobody expects the Kool-Aid U! 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 172 points, T:596, killed by a scroll of earth 01:55 and now my second ki-rin ever! 01:55 for killing, or for petting? 01:56 (or avoiding, as the case may be...) 01:56 I'm a Tourist. 01:57 excellent. Are you playing locally, or are you on a public server? 01:57 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 01:57 Local. 01:57 ah, cool. good luck! 01:58 thank god the purple worm got 'em 01:59 love you ring of conflict 02:00 well seems like "getting Jazz back" might be off the menu 02:02 Fuck me. 02:02 Oh sike, it worked 02:03 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:03 Well, I have Jazz and a purple worm 02:03 (and a coautl, for however long that lasts 02:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law), 710 points, T:2613, killed by a water demon 02:04 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:05 Well, here goes, last floor. 02:07 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790837812173471744/Screenshot_20201222-020702.png 02:07 and I forgot my worm was eating! 02:07 goddamnit! 02:08 no matter, I'll just rev geno some later 02:08 ...first portal was easy 02:09 Air now 02:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law), 524 points, T:1062, killed by a jackal 02:11 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8546 02:13 my god, these air elementals DO hit hard 02:14 <@p0werm0de> yu play offline or can i also has that tileset 02:14 <@p0werm0de> also GL 02:16 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 02:18 Nevanda is the tileset 02:21 >third ki-rin 02:21 Nope. 02:21 Fuck off. 02:22 And found a replacement silver dragon 02:22 I christen thee Nick Jr. 02:22 The hardest part is finding the damn portal 02:24 Had to break a tele wand to fend off the latest horde of nasties 02:25 THAT'S AN ARCHON 02:25 WHY IS THERE AN ARCHON 02:26 ...and in blinding myself to kill it, got caught by my first lightning bolt 02:26 or rather just close enough to be deafend 02:26 deafened* 02:27 Portal in sight! 02:27 Just need... to get... pets... through 02:34 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:40 Hi mobile and ammy 02:42 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 02:44 Fire now 02:45 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 02:45 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 02:48 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:49 Wow Fire's even worse 02:49 Fucking blinding everywhere 02:51 Oh hi Umbire_ 02:52 You on the plane of fire? 02:53 Mhm 02:56 Taking a break since phone died 02:56 Fire's the closest I've come to eating it so far, the monster swarming is unreal 02:56 ironically the poison gas saved me 02:57 Trying to take pets with you? They tend to die to poison gas... 02:58 cute little bobble gasmasks for doggos when 03:02 Already lost my second silver dragon 03:02 Vamp lord is fine 03:05 -!- wvc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11615 03:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 2223 points, T:1973, killed by a dwarf 03:16 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:17 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 03:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 1785 points, T:997, killed by an Uruk-hai 03:21 Alright, phone has a decent charge, let's see what I can do 03:24 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:24 <@p0werm0de> GL 03:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:25 multiple archons, send help 03:25 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 03:25 Where's the mcfucking portal 03:26 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29 oh do you not read gold detection to find it? 03:29 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 03:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:31 DID THEY MAKE ALL OF THESE MOTHERFUCKERS WITH CURSED CREATE MONSTER 03:31 AAAAAAAAAAAAAa 03:31 also yeah I have, REACHING it is the other half of the battle 03:33 it also tends to get hidden in the poison clouds 03:34 made it to water 03:34 sea monsters genocided 03:34 now to get magical breathing 03:34 at least you have #terrain 03:35 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 03:36 -!- theRaisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:36 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:37 and blundered outside a bubble, wet some more stuff 03:37 nbd 03:38 <@p0werm0de> genocide evil 03:38 <@p0werm0de> dont do it be a her0 03:40 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:40 I'm Neutral bitch 03:40 Kill 'em all and let the Lady sort 'em out 03:41 YES 03:41 Finally made it to the Astral Plane 03:41 gz 03:41 * tinklebear would like to play a game with no unicorns, but otherwise doesn't understand the point of genocide 03:42 need to write revgeno 03:42 fast 03:42 ^ well, there's *that* point of genocide 03:43 purple w or black D, Umbire? 03:43 I'm feelin' wormy 03:44 probably more effective, after all. 03:44 typical. I buy food rations so I won't starve, next thing you know RNG is dropping food rations all over the place. 03:45 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:45 wish for ring of poly control. end up finding five of them. 03:46 tamed enough of them, time to make some moves 03:46 have Vorpal so that instadeath's off the table 03:47 wait, mobileuser -- you're complaining about spending 60-odd zorkmids so that Upernavik can keep the lights on? 03:47 Which of the riders besides Death can I not zap with a wand of death 03:47 hmmm 03:48 what do you mean? 03:49 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 03:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 03:49 oh, I thought others were immune to death ray for some reason 03:51 oh how nice, spare wands of tele and death 03:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:13007 03:52 wow, another one 03:53 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:53 oh that ain't good, fucking peaceful angel blocked my path and Famine is on the way 03:56 Neat, player monster Valk had a few spare heals 03:58 clutch full ID 03:59 alright now hmmm 03:59 Pestilence is near the neutral temple 04:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:12328 04:02 you have sickness res I presume 04:02 I have ways of curing and a spare death wand 04:02 I know the neutral altar is to my left 04:02 how do you know that? 04:03 telepathy 04:03 what 04:03 saw priest of the Lady in view 04:03 ??? 04:03 might be bugging though 04:03 like 90% sure I am 04:03 priest or high priest? 04:03 regular priest, but I see a high one right nearby 04:03 you're not meant to be able to tell which high priest it is from telepathy 04:04 ah regular priests don't tell you jack about the altar, they spawn all around 04:04 YEP 04:04 Righto ne 04:04 one* 04:04 First try 04:04 gz 04:04 Just a formality now 04:04 One last wish... 04:05 next to ascend on a public server so there's proof of victory :P 04:05 [backscroll] tinklebear these racial evilhack shopkeepers charge a lot more ;-) 04:05 It's over. 04:05 racist* 04:05 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790867724912951306/Screenshot_20201222-040513.png 04:06 congrats Umbire! 04:06 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790867752214069268/Screenshot_20201222-040522.png 04:06 spicycebolla: tty or curses? 04:06 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790867768437506089/Screenshot_20201222-040535.png 04:08 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: boopboop boop] 04:08 mobileuser: the illithid ones are ridiculous! Who do they think they are? Some kind of master race?! 04:08 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 04:09 they call themselves masters but refuse to take on apprentices! this is an outrage 04:09 holy shit that's right 04:09 I got so many gifts I didn't artiwish 04:10 lol tinklebear 04:10 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790868808646262794/Screenshot_20201222-040942.png 04:10 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790868808982069248/Screenshot_20201222-040956.png 04:10 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790868809392717854/Screenshot_20201222-041004.png 04:10 I'll dump all the pics of everything later 04:10 But thank god, I finally beat this fucking game 04:10 * Umbire is now a Real NetHack Player™ 04:10 now do it again on a public server :^) 04:11 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:11 Challenge accepted! 04:11 Might be a few years more but hey ho! 04:13 I'll probably move to the Discord end of things soon 04:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1683 points, T:3302, killed by a giant mimic 04:15 Just me, Jazz and me purple worm horde 04:15 feelsgood 04:16 ...and then I flip to the NetHack channel to see someone get bisected with the Amulet in hand 04:17 <@p0werm0de> dang giant mimic wtf 04:17 <@p0werm0de> i had so many scrolls from that store 04:18 unlucky 04:18 <@p0werm0de> ye like 2 shot me 04:18 <@p0werm0de> gg umbire 04:19 Thanks! 04:19 Feels so good to finally have that out of the way 04:19 <@p0werm0de> now DCSS 04:19 Now I can give NetHack a break so I can focus on other things 04:19 Like drawing 04:19 And planning Christmas gifts 04:19 And NetHack! 04:19 (but on hdf this time) 04:19 She wasn't bisected 04:19 brb! 04:19 she just got beat up by priests a lot. 04:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:25 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 04:33 <@Umby> Unfortunate still 04:34 does anyone have a good story about why priests kick? 04:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:26263 04:35 <@Umby> Tell ya what, I wouldn't know why 04:35 is it like, "Well, looks like I got shafted in the melee weapon department. Might as well mix in some kicks!" 04:36 !tell spicycebolla OPTIONS=!classic_status works for me. is your terminal big enough? 04:36 I'm on it, bhaak. 04:37 They got cursed weapons all the time, so yeah 04:38 that is kind of weird too! like, is that what they're always beseeching about? 04:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:16458 04:41 then again, they really can kick your ass anyways. Maybe that's the intended point? 04:43 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:57 [hdf-au] [4k] Gadette (PeachMuffin) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 7053 points, T:1208, killed by a large dog, while praying 05:10 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 05:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:836 05:12 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 05:12 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 05:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:836 05:12 <@Umby> I'm gonna see about refining my new role ideas 05:13 amateurhour: you here? suggestion: play asura monk in slex ;) 05:13 and if you wonder why, here's a hint: type #enhance after starting one 05:14 <@Umby> Ohi 05:14 <@Umby> Guess what I managed today 05:14 yo Umby, you made a new role for slex or what? ♥ 05:14 <@Umby> Pf 05:14 <@Umby> Nah, finally ascended a game 05:15 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Gel Mal Law), 1407 points, T:6353, quit 05:15 two-weapon combat :DDDDD 05:16 @Umby: congratulations! which variant and role/race? 05:16 <@Umby> Mobile port, Tourist gal 05:16 wow your first ascension was a toursit? 05:16 <@Umby> (basically 3.6.2) 05:16 <@Umby> Sure was! 05:17 <@Umby> I have a bunch of other ascendable games but that one I got attached to the most 05:17 the usual first ascension role is samurai, or occasionally valkyrie, but I've never seen a player ascend tourist first 05:18 well done! :) 05:18 <@Umby> Thank ya 05:18 <@Umby> Still had my old darts by the end 05:18 <@Umby> Shame I didn't get to use them much 05:19 will try asura sokosolver maybe in lunch break 05:19 <@Umby> Sokosolver? 05:20 it's a race in slex that has sokoban rules on every floor but most floors are replaced with sokoban puzzles 05:20 <@Umby> Ooh, actually sounds interesting! 05:21 unfortunately as it's slex it's not as nice as it sounds 05:21 lol 05:21 <@Umby> Let me hope! 05:21 give it a go though, it's still neat 05:21 <@Umby> Noted 05:21 assuming you like soko puzzles of course 05:22 <@Umby> I do o; 05:22 there's like 50 or something puzzles in the pool 05:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3761 05:30 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 05:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4161 05:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed potions of holy water", on T:2107 05:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 speed boots", on T:2124 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:4403 05:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2723 05:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:8343 05:45 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:47 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:54 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed tins of green dragon meat", on T:3926 06:07 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:13 -!- joes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:18 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 06:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:16091 06:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6022 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:16248 06:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17084 06:40 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:44 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 06:45 hello! watch me die with a new keyboard layout 06:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1935 points, T:2229, quit 06:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire giant, on T:17780 06:50 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:51 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:52 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 42137 points, T:17874, killed by a warg 06:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1407 points, T:2793, killed by a giant mimic 06:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3988 06:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law), 28 points, T:219, killed by a water demon 06:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:51 07:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:27289 07:01 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 13848 points, T:8235, killed by an arch-lich 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a shark, on T:6978 07:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 10259 points, T:7437, died of starvation, while fainted 07:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:2880 07:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Ran Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1484 07:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law), 874 points, T:3223, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 686 points, T:1081, killed by a bugbear 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 658 points, T:1916, killed by a werejackal 07:23 really struggling with identification this game 07:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:29 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:32 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 235 points, T:1069, killed by a gas spore's explosion 07:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Rog Vam Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1433 07:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2341 07:38 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 6860 points, T:1948, killed by a bolt of fire 07:44 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1955 points, T:1283, killed by a Grey-elf 07:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:45 did umbire ascend in the end? 08:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:6490 08:02 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 4888 points, T:3352, killed by a bolt of cold 08:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:6532 08:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Rog Vam Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1159 08:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 4798 points, T:1256, killed by a fire ant 08:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Rog Vam Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed ring of slow digestion", on T:298 08:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:8211 08:18 shit, owlbear grabbed me on an altar 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1094 08:24 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 12 darts on an altar, on T:3532 08:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 863 points, T:1706, killed by a dagger 08:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 20195 points, T:17010, killed by a troll 08:27 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 08:28 spicycebolla: Message from bhaak at 2020-12-22 04:36 EST: OPTIONS=!classic_status works for me. is your terminal big enough? 08:29 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790933929040674816/unknown.png 08:29 <@p0werm0de> wolf army hopefully will kill that dude at some point 08:30 lol that's a cute army of wolves 08:31 bhaak: i ended up a bit later getting it to work by toggling the in-game option. have to do that on each login. i don't think it's reading it from my rcfile: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spicycat/unnethack/spicycat.unrc 08:33 spicycebolla: try OPTIONS=!classic_status I'm not sure unnethack already parses "OPTION=something:false" 08:33 HAY 08:33 <@p0werm0de> hai 08:34 hot buttered abs 08:34 thanks 08:34 i guess i need to rethink all the lines that say OPTION=doodly:woodly now 08:34 easy enough with the bools 08:36 watch out, juiblex, i'm comin for ya with a 3 line status bar this time 08:36 it works for other options, just not for booleans 08:37 gotcha 08:37 it's very weird that it took until now for vanilla to finally support a third status line, SLASH'EM had that functionality back in 2007 08:40 Still perplexed why priests conspicuously kick, I searched for terms "priest" + "kick" 08:40 "I Kick Ass For The Lord! - From the Movie Braindead by Peter Jackson" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfkHkdu5IEI 08:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Elf Fem Cha), 959 points, T:377, killed by a gnome lord 08:43 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:44 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2194 08:48 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 08:55 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3426 08:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful wolf, on T:9994 09:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Rog Vam Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:3848 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] mday299 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10606 09:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5896 points, T:4720, killed by a gray unicorn 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:61884 09:12 gonna try asura sokosolver monk then in slex 09:12 :) 09:12 aaand immediately into an annoying room lol 09:15 could get to the upstair with a panic dig, but can't see how I would get to the downstairs with one invoke 09:16 im watching you 09:16 👀 09:17 well you could repeatedly use the hole and hope you land near the dlvl3 downstair :D 09:17 the holes aren't detected so idk if it's the evil variant of 2a 09:17 ugh it is so I might have already messed it up :P 09:17 <{Demo}> dont do soko 09:18 let's go again 09:19 sokosolver can be fun 09:19 you really quit a lot of chars 09:19 just completely ass till you get a pickaxe 09:20 I fell down into an area where I couldn't get to the stairs again Amy 09:20 oh 09:21 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:22 <{Demo}> male sure you remember to save the game every now and then 09:22 {Demo}: why? 09:22 <{Demo}> just in case 09:22 amateurhour: what do you mean evil varaint? 09:23 in what case? 09:23 <{Demo}> when I spend a lot of time on one level, I save the game every now and them 09:23 ...dude 09:23 <{Demo}> so if it crashes, I'm not losing so much progress 09:23 slex added a timed autosave like *years* ago 09:23 <{Demo}> damn 09:23 LOL 09:23 <{Demo}> well then 09:23 every sane variant should steal that, but none ever does, of course :P 09:23 there's an 'evilvariant' mode in slex aoei, but for some unholy reason all the new evil stuff gets added to the regular game anyway 09:23 * amateurhour shrugs 09:23 ok but what's evil about evilvariant soko 2a? 09:24 other than that it's soko2a whicheverybody hates 09:24 oh, that's just a nasty version of 2a with extra holes and awkward boulder placements 09:24 huh, i thought the boulders looked like they were all in standard 2a spots 09:24 when i was watching 09:24 idk maybe i missed some 09:24 i was confused about the single hole though 09:24 there's two extra versions of 2a in slex iirc 09:25 oh that was because the holes were undetected (slex does this randomly) 09:25 ah 09:25 nice 09:25 so you have to search for them to appear on the map 09:25 <{Demo}> one time i played slex and it failed to work properly 09:25 <{Demo}> typed #ascend and i didn't win 09:25 wow that sounds buggy af I hope they fix that Demo 09:26 <{Demo}> amy has yet to comment on this and that is part of why I am so suspicious 09:26 hey if the Great Conjunction occurs on the Winter Solstice 09:26 does that mean the world is about to end or smth? 09:26 <{Demo}> also amy hasn't been apprised of this and hasn't had any chance to comment, but ignore that 09:26 or does it mean free WoWs for all? 09:26 {Demo}: you got the wrong variant, splicehack is the one that does that, and the command isn't #ascend but < :P 09:26 <{Demo}> wasnt the world supposed to end yesterday anyways? 09:26 doesnt that just make you escape like any other variant? 09:27 {Demo}: idk, was it? 09:27 i musta slept through it :S 09:27 <{Demo}> 12-21-12 was supposed to be the end of the world 09:27 <{Demo}> but then it was like nah its 12-21-20 09:27 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:27 <{Demo}> and that was yesterday 09:27 <{Demo}> and i didnt even die 09:27 <{Demo}> so :/ 09:27 ok, so what's the revised end date now? 09:27 Amy my sister got me an icosahedron necklace for christmas <3 09:27 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 21805 points, T:5758, killed by a wererat 09:27 im gonna paint numbers 1 to 20 on it to make it a d20 09:28 aoei: awwwww that's probably very fleecy! ♥♥♥ 09:28 NO 09:28 it is NOT fleecy 09:28 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #hardfought 09:28 it's one solid colour 09:28 so there :V 09:28 <@malor> !lastgame malor6 09:28 @malor: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor6/dnethack/dumplog/1608642647.dnh.txt 09:28 but it's dice-shaped, and dice are fleecy by definition ♥ "Flauschewürfel" ♥ 09:28 ... wot 09:28 how does your brain work even XD 09:28 fine, it's fleecy then w/e 09:29 flauuuuuuuuuuschig! <3 <3 <3 09:29 or actually no, it's not fleecy yet 09:29 because i havent painted the numbers on it 09:29 so now it's totally non-fleecy 09:29 "Amy everything is fleecy in your world!" :D 09:29 just a plain, single-colour icosahedron on a delicate (and definitely not-fleecy chain) 09:29 well, it's not in your world is it 09:29 it's in mine :v 09:30 such a fleecy icosahedron! 😍 09:30 kay 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 138 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:62403 09:30 maybe i take a picture later and let the community decide with me that it is not fleecy and that you are wrong 09:31 heh, in Amyland it's fleecy, so I'm not wrong :P 09:31 liar 09:31 ok wait but let me put you this question 09:31 if everything is fleecy in Amyland 09:31 does fleeciness not lose all meaning? 09:32 haha, in fact not everything is fleecy, but I seem to recall that you once said it was 09:32 orite 09:32 i probably did yea 09:32 cuz according to you it seems like everything is fleecy 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] mday299 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:12047 09:36 monsters spawning between the hole and the boulder you're pushing 09:36 as is tradition 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1274 points, T:3363, killed by a water moccasin 09:37 one of the many reasons why I always carry some form of ranged attack if I can 09:37 no mines for me yet 09:37 so far no enemies have even had ranged weapons lol 09:37 nest of spiders in the soko zoo I cleared 09:38 aoei: here's an example of a modified 2a 09:38 that looks terrifying 09:38 lol 09:38 this one is nearly impossible, think it only has one solution 09:39 Amy wrote it up somewhere so I'll probs have to find it and just do that 09:39 but yuo're already on the otehr side 09:39 im confused 09:39 sokosolver? 09:39 well jonadab's page has the solutions 09:39 that's because usually in sokoban you want to go upwards 09:39 apply your unicorn horn 09:39 but in the main dungeon you want to go downwards 09:39 yeah i gotchu 09:39 so the puzzles are bass ackwards 09:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Brd Vam Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:941 09:40 still gotta solve them as you (eventually) will be going up again 09:40 ah ok 09:40 or at least solve them enough to get to the stairs... 09:40 yeah but you have plenty of time for that ;) 09:40 oh jonadab's site appears to be down 09:40 well rip 09:41 again??? :/ damn 09:41 could have sworn I saw the solution posted somewhere else though 09:41 maybe slashem.me maybe? 09:41 no idea; at least I didn't post it anywhere IIRC 09:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:14393 09:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10003 09:44 adfjksldfkj monster spawning on a hole is even more of a kick in the nads 09:45 [hdf-us] [slex] pretzel (Psy Dut Fem Cha), 528 points, T:188, killed by a monster (M girl) 09:46 amateurhour: hah 09:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:14886 09:46 rip 09:47 so sokosolver just needs to solve them at some point before or during the asc run? 09:47 during asc run probably not ideal i guess lol 09:48 yeah imagine trying to solve this 2a thing with the wizard on you lol 09:48 lol 09:49 got a range weapon so can try head to minetown now, but gotta solve this 2a thing to get back there 09:49 yeah but you can control when the ascension run starts 09:49 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 09:50 hello 09:50 Hello rebatela, Welcome to #hardfought 09:50 this one is too easy to mess up for me 09:50 -!- Zertrin has left #hardfought 09:50 brb 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:11377 09:53 man these giant spider rooms are a lot to encounter on DL3 09:53 out of depth 09:53 i mean... i know it's evilhack and everything. is that new vanilla feature? 09:54 i lived, but only because i started game with a blessed EA scroll... 09:54 rebatela: it was a vanilla bug that has since been fixed 09:55 oh ok 09:55 maybe k2 still needs to incorporate the fix patch 09:55 idk 09:55 maybe he just decided its fun cuz its eeeevil 09:55 the first spider was fine, but the second one would have killed me lol. i didn't realize what was going on either. Maybe it is a cool thing to keep 09:56 idk, i refused to play vanilla for a while because of that bug lol 09:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragontooth crow quill", on T:276879 09:56 but evil is evil so 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 496 points, T:1298, killed by a kobold zombie, while sleeping 09:58 <@DarkLightDragon> Interesting... I've found the bones of someone who ticked off a shopkeeper, who is now wandering, does that mean I can run in and loot the place? 10:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Brd Vam Mal Cha), 10911 points, T:3166, killed by a leocrotta, while praying 10:00 did they ask you if you've seen them? that always makes me laugh 10:01 <@DarkLightDragon> Yes, they said they were looking for the player. While their ghost was in the room. 10:01 <@DarkLightDragon> turns out it's a scroll shop so I'm really hoping I can loot more ID scrolls :3 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 13222 points, T:12151, killed by a dwarf lady 10:03 <@DarkLightDragon> wiki isn't clear on if I can loot 10:03 you can't tell? i'm trying to remember. i think you're fine when they are wandering around like that 10:04 it sucks when they die in the shop because the shopkeeper owns all the stuff (it's still nice obviously bones is bones ) 10:04 you know how in a normal shop with a present shopkeep, there are prices attached to the descriptions? 10:04 but he must have robbed the shopkeeper and died outside 10:04 do you see any of those? 10:04 yeah if you pick something up and he doesn't say anything, it's yours 10:05 <@DarkLightDragon> sweeeeeeeet 10:05 * tinklebear got the impression shopkeeper is not in the shop 10:05 <@DarkLightDragon> that's correct 10:05 tell him not to hold his breath looking for the guy lol 10:05 <@DarkLightDragon> Gotta say, the poor sod who kicked down his door got a decent way away before snuffing it 10:05 thing is if you were to play and use that same name as the character he is looking for, he would be hostile 10:05 that's the one thing i do remember 10:06 oh that's what it's from! someone kicked the door down 10:06 <@DarkLightDragon> His gear's all in the shop, though, I assume that's related to inheriting the former character's possessions even though that isn't logical? 10:06 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 10:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1503 10:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:17664 10:08 <@DarkLightDragon> I mean, if the shopkeep is looking for someone, that means they haven't found them or their possessions 10:09 where you playing darklightdragon? 10:09 <@DarkLightDragon> as in what server? AU 10:09 they are looking for them to kill them. i don't think shopkeepers actually ever pick things up. they just inherit them if you die in the shop (inherit as in the new hero has to pay) 10:12 !whereis DarkLightDragon 10:12 tinklebear: [hdf-au] DarkLightDragon [nh370]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:1300 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 10:13 rebatela its not a bug 10:13 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/332a9692c25d356724e3482c539e575b7910da28 10:13 ^ mindepth for spider rooms is dlvl 4 10:14 didn't he say dl3 tho? 10:14 it shouldnt happen on dlvl 3 10:14 maybe he's mistaken 10:14 rebatela | man these giant spider rooms are a lot to encounter on DL3 10:14 * aoei shrugs 10:14 i know it was a big thing in vanilla and definitely a bug tehre 10:14 but idk anything about evilhack so 10:15 rebatela: you could press $ while inside the shop just to check if you owe anything 10:15 i think its still a thing in vanilla 3.7.0 10:15 i dont think the devteam sees it as a bug 10:15 K2: really? i coulda sworn it's been fixed in 3.7.0 10:15 aosdict: digging all the patches from L that you're incorporating 10:15 <@DarkLightDragon> I'm on DL3. There is a player grave outside the shop. There's a wandering shopkeep. The former player's gear is inside the shop. 10:15 i cant remember 10:15 K2 I'm like 90% sure it was considered a bug and has been fixed 10:16 aosdict probably knows more, because I think he patched it actually, or if not he knows the patch 10:16 ah they did 10:16 aoei: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/999222a8a4c8e432e2f83351d0af673e7aadc9e1 10:16 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/999222a8a4c8e432e2f83351d0af673e7aadc9e1 10:16 hah spicycebolla 10:16 orc town dammit 10:16 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/999222a8a4c8e432e2f83351d0af673e7aadc9e1 10:16 yea i remember reading that 10:16 quick on the draw 10:16 lol 10:16 the main dungeon level that has the mines downstair can leave bones. It could get sort of "displaced" from level 4 to 3 that way, perhaps 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1028 points, T:2025, killed by a gnome lord 10:16 K2: you'll get her next time lol 10:16 just wanted to join in on the linking don't mind me 10:16 just gotta practice that holster arm 10:16 amateurhour: your draw arm is weak son 10:16 amateurhour: you still get a bronze medal 10:17 woot 10:17 k2: i'm fine with it not being a bug. just threw me off 10:17 you can use it as a coaster for warm beverages 10:17 amateurhour: practice before you challenge anyone to a patchdraw duel 10:17 i'm all for the game being hard 10:17 https://link.com/link.html 10:17 * aoei enjoys being right from memory alone and having herself backed up by the quickdraw URLs 10:17 ^ wins link wars 10:18 it was asodict's patch too 10:18 aosdict 10:18 * 10:18 * aoei is a smort 10:18 for 370 yeah 10:18 i made no particular claims about evilhack :) 10:18 <@DarkLightDragon> ...OOoooooooooh. Turns out there's two ghost with the same name. 10:18 <@p0werm0de> wow my god was real angry for the wolves. this took an hour of sacs etc to get them mollified 10:18 yaevil - sometimes the snakes just come out of the fountain because you walked by 10:18 <@p0werm0de> also hurting knight conduct prob 10:18 haha spicycebolla 10:19 damn p0werm0de F 10:19 <@p0werm0de> game lookin good tho 10:19 also all vaults are now leprechaun halls 10:19 <@p0werm0de> got +5 gray scale and excalibur 10:19 nice p0werm0de 10:19 knight earlygame is hard 10:19 spider rooms on dlvl 4? get outta here 10:19 <@p0werm0de> fkn low HP 10:19 but sounds like you on a roll 10:19 <@p0werm0de> i died once with that gear already from giant eating 10:20 aosdict: dw everything is fine in vanilla, was just a question of whether the same in evilihack is ab ug or not 10:20 apparently 8its not a bug, just evil 10:20 <@p0werm0de> also thinkin bout when i can kill priest + get magic missile 10:20 <@p0werm0de> after q 10:20 OK, time for suicide by Kaen 10:20 it was dl 3 10:20 was it bones? 10:20 <@Tone> @p0werm0de mollifying a god requires a minimum difficulty corpse, so it can't happen with a lot of corpses 10:21 i went down the stairs from 2 and there was a giant spider, then i got stuck in a web and there was another one. definitely would not have lived if i didn't start with enchant armor 10:21 yeah this ^ 10:21 <@p0werm0de> ah yea kk 10:21 aoei: I love when I start the game and get mauled by giant spiders in the second, inescapable room of the dungeon with no resources to do anything else 10:21 <@Tone> You usually need a deep altar for it to be reasonable 10:21 aosdict: rofl 10:21 <@p0werm0de> i am perma invisible is that bad for knight? 10:21 * aosdict turns down the amount of dripping sarcasm a bit 10:21 aosdict: i didn't play 370 for ages because of this 10:21 not joking 10:21 <@p0werm0de> i got a leocrotta corpse now that worked 10:21 it upset me too much 10:21 well you only saw 2 spiders. spider room in evilhack has 3 minimum 10:21 <@Tone> Perms invis is fine for anyone 10:21 * K2 shrugs 10:21 no i fought 3 10:21 i was able to go upstairs and heal 10:21 <@p0werm0de> but dont i get tha caitiff stuff from that 10:22 <@Tone> oh right, codes and all that 10:22 perm insivible sucks when you can't wear a mummy wrap 10:22 <@p0werm0de> im wearin mummy wrapping now 10:22 ikr? 10:22 [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law), 1344 points, T:1691, killed by a black pudding 10:22 Crap, I thought Kaen would wake up for some reason, I'm all forted with nothing to do 10:22 getting invisible as a giant early game is horrible 10:22 @p0werm0de i've been throwing single gold coins at every sleeping monster 10:22 you can also play a tin whistle to wake them 10:22 <@p0werm0de> meh 10:23 sometimes they're meditating krm26 10:23 <@DarkLightDragon> I can't have nice things 10:23 do you have a cursed potion of invis? 10:23 <@p0werm0de> no but unholy water 10:23 I wish :-) 10:23 <@p0werm0de> could make one 10:23 knight is annoying, lawful is annoying, luckily alignment kinda doesn't matter 10:23 cursed invisible to wake up kaen krm26 10:23 i've done that same thing 10:23 <@p0werm0de> knight is cool mhk 10:23 Yeah I know, don't have one 10:23 <@p0werm0de> i wanna magic missil 10:23 killed all the xorns and elementals and he doesn't wake up 10:23 Playing an empty frost horn maybe? 10:23 have to go back to stash and get the potion 10:23 <@p0werm0de> would it make sense to remove invis? i got it real early from wand 10:23 tooled horn doesn't work. i've tried that 10:24 Dammit 10:24 Game won't even let me kill myself without work 10:24 haha 10:24 I hate this run so much 10:24 it sucks but it's better than him being next to you... 10:24 @p0werm0de it's also nice to be able to #jump i suppose. got into https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Town easy that way 10:25 <@p0werm0de> yea the jump is great also used the spell on tourist 10:25 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:25 i messed up by throwing boulders from within the fort so much that he had nowhere to stand where i could hit him with anything 10:25 don't do that 10:27 centaur, won't be throwing boulders ;-) 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:30641 10:27 Dammit 10:27 you woke him up somehow! 10:27 nice one 10:28 still not killed yourself! 10:28 I went back to my stash and made a cursed potion of invisibility like a chump 10:28 lol 10:28 Medusa will kill me, this run totally blows 10:28 why will medusa kill you? 10:28 Since I've eternally destroyed Dragonbane 10:28 oh no 10:28 she's not that strong, just watch out for the stoning 10:28 lava? 10:28 over enchant? 10:28 Disconnection bug apparently 10:29 get dragonhide gauntlets of protection 10:29 you have the dex gloves. those are great too 10:29 I cannot be consoled about my lost Dragonbane 10:29 haha 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] mday299 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:14692 10:30 i'm trying ;) 10:30 #quit is that way 10:30 Everyone is going to have to mute me until I kill this one 10:30 rebatela: lava can't destroy Dragonbane can it? 10:30 :) 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33983 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30642 10:30 Even K2 couldn't put me back together again 10:30 i just got orc town and am on the fence whether to escape/quit 10:31 are jumping spiders safe to eat? 10:31 i think so ? 10:31 What's wrong with Orctown? 10:31 i like to buy protection 10:31 and who knows if there's another temple 10:31 Ecch - that must have been poisonous! 10:31 and lost 2 strength 10:31 SCIENCE 10:31 oh you don't have poison resistance? sorry 10:31 Yeah, that can be disappointing. I don't know the real numbers but I feel like I see at least one altar in 2/3rds of my games 10:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hlf Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1847 10:32 yeah sometimes you get 3 on one level, multiple temples etc. 10:32 rebatela, to buy protection early? 10:32 there's one in the valley rebatela :^) 10:32 rebatela.... 10:32 yes. you can buy it in the valley, but that's too late 10:32 oh you don't have poison resistance :') 10:32 hehe i'm sorry! 10:32 What role are you? 10:32 don't listen to me ever mobileuser! 10:32 well I got a bit healthier anyway ;-) 10:33 just use a unicorn horn to cure your stats :^) 10:33 as if! :-) 10:33 ideally, i like to have a non-aligned temple so i can donate to them and then kill them for the spellbooks> get gold back > donate to the next guy 10:33 rebatela, what role are you? 10:33 andrio: lawful giant monk 10:33 there's like a 99.9% chance at any time that rebatela is a monk 10:33 that's kind of the pot calling the kettle black, but correct 10:34 mm 10:34 hey I did an android in dnh recently, maybe I'm free from the shackles of monkhood 10:34 who am I kidding, back to monks we go 10:34 i used to play priests only 10:34 I've never ascended a monk before and so far I have to say that THEY TOOK MY DRAGONBANE 10:35 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 10:35 My go to is a Grayswandering tourist, so relaxing 10:35 i'd like to think at some point i'll evolve and play wizards. i like being able to cast spells 10:35 before you do that you've gotta do a monk in slash'em and dnh 10:36 monks are the best. im not gonna stop playing them 10:36 Can you explain to me why monks are the best? This has been nothing but heartbreak so far 10:36 they suck in vanilla. i like that variants have made it better 10:36 It may not help that I'm a centaur 10:36 (evilhack only here) 10:36 OK Lugh restored me 10:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hlf Mal Neu), 4765 points, T:2164, killed by a watchman 10:36 evilhack claims to buff monks but because everything is so much harder it's not noticable imo 10:37 but if you were to play one in vanilla you'd probs find the easiest earlygame of all 10:37 krm26: well, for me. It's nice not having to worry about a weapon, or armor. The wiki says that and I thought it was the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, but there's truth to it. MORE importantly, monks can get basic in every spell school so if you level up/wear robe/hob etc. you can cast anything 10:38 krm26: monks as designed in slash'em had a whole bunch of special moves. https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Technique#Monk then they got ported to vanilla with NONE of that, just the huge penalties for using armor 10:38 the resistances as well. you start off with regular speed and get stealth, poison resistance etc. very early 10:38 It may just be that I've found crap-all spellbooks on this run, but lots of weapons and boots I can't use :-) 10:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Hlf Mal Cha), 947 points, T:381, killed by an Uruk-captain 10:38 Eating my way to full resistance is part of the game I actually miss 10:38 also even if you don't use techniques in slash'em they're just way more strong there anyway 10:38 also martial arts don't compare well to enchanted weapons. *also* vanilla had/has bugs that make martial arts even less effective than it looks 10:38 I like to eat 10:38 "they took my dragonbane" I am now hearing South Park voices in my head 10:38 martial arts in slash'em and dnh are just epic 10:38 and spicyebolla just nailed it with the techniques. They took monk from slashem and did it half-assed 10:38 combine that with twoweaponing martial arts 10:38 the monk quest SUCKS 10:39 man it's fun 10:39 ZERO loot for fighting the hardest nemesis 10:39 it's a rip off of the priest quest which actually HAS lots of loot 10:39 I juts did my first Priest last week, that quest was jam packed 10:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:34039 10:39 (it sounds like i'm agreeing with you that monks suck) 10:39 It felt weird ascending on the back of unskilled magic missile tho 10:39 krm26: right? all those chests? 10:40 the other thing about the priest quest is you can cast create monster just inside the portal and eat infinite wraiths.... get that PW into the thousands 10:40 In fact after going on 4 decades of play I've just now realized that unskilled magic missile at whateverthehelllevel you normally ascend is crazy powerful 10:40 Interesting, I didn't try that 10:41 I always level up to 30, and the only reason is magic missile 10:42 I remember telling you that krm26, but you said you had no way to create monsters 10:42 you can get to 30 easily just having the ones from the graveyard chase you back and out the portal. that takes time though 10:42 i used to do that 10:42 but once it occured to me to cast cm, it was a game changer 10:42 That may be true (I'm a pretty distracted player) 10:43 i feel like a lot of people don't know about that actually 10:44 they should probably change it so casting cm doesn't create the quest monsters... 10:47 Hah, just created a monster with a magic lamp. But since I can't wish for Dragonbane again :-( 10:47 I guess I should blow it on having P'hul evade my grasp 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] mday299 (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:15890 10:48 you can ascend this character w/out dragonbane... 10:49 Impossible! Nobody can ascend without Dragonbane. Where would they find the emotional fortitude to carry on? 10:49 and you can totally use weapons. i've ascended monks with grayswandir. you can even unlock saber 10:49 Anyway now the next time I punch a black dragon it is going to burn my hands off 10:49 haha i am so scared of those things 10:50 I'm gonna create-scum for a spellbook of magic missile 10:50 I'll call you back in 20k turns! 10:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 42072 points, T:32285, killed by a death ray 10:50 it's not impossible to write if you max out luck 10:50 i'm sure you have many magic markers... 10:52 I have an infinity symbol folded in half 10:52 No, not into a 3 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] mday299 (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 31898 points, T:16072, petrified by a cockatrice 10:56 Amy monks can wear victorian underwear right? 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:34749 10:57 amateurhour: uhh yes, why wouldn't they? it's only body armor that hinders your martial arts, shirts are no problem 10:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3972 10:58 If you're a woman Victorian underwear should DEFINITELY hinder your martial arts 10:59 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:34810 11:00 The victorian underwear shapes your figure, but it isn't very practical to fight in. 11:00 ah 11:01 and I can't take it off 11:01 brilliant 11:01 oh I could put it on with a robe already worn but couldn't take it off while the robe was on 11:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2706 points, T:4796, poisoned by a killer bee 11:01 weird 11:02 slex allows you to put on shirts or suits when you have some other item over them 11:02 if you want to take it off, either take off the covering things first or use shift-A; of course, if it's cursed, it cannot be taken off :D 11:03 <@Joanna> But amateurhour the real question is 11:03 Chance of this NPC samurai wielding Vorpal Blade? Guess I'll find out 11:03 <@Joanna> Do you look bae as fuck 11:03 yaaaaaay a wild Streicheljoanna appeared! ♥ 11:04 sometimes you are on discord and sometimes on irc 11:04 hmm do I got for +3 iron shoes or +0 pair of sweet mocassins? 11:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Sam Hum Fem Law), 19770 points, T:3887, killed by a warhorse 11:05 the mocassins train the sexy flats skill which monks can theoretically get to grandmaster 11:05 but if I'm understanding correctly it's practically impossible for male characters to get grandmaster 11:05 heh, depends on how long you expect this char to survive :D 11:06 when you guys talk about slex, i often think you're trolling. But this is real!?! ? 11:06 i need to give it another shot, amy 11:06 rebatela: slex is real, even if it sounds like something a drug-addled lunatic made up :P 11:06 got a good feeling about this one now I've gotten a pickaxe 11:07 oh i know the game is real... but amateur asks you these serious questions and it always sounds like made up stuff 11:07 and I'll be skipping most optional branches this time, no matter how much the space base tempts me 11:07 i guess it's all "made up" 11:07 though then again you need the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy to deal with banishment sometimes 11:07 rebatela: well I "made it up" and put it into the game ;) 11:07 :) 11:07 slex is the cognitive dissonance variant 11:07 amateurhour: what's the problem with branches? just the soko rules? 11:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:21175 11:08 well the problem with some of them, like the sewers, is features can make it impossible 11:08 like rivers can get you really stuck 11:08 which is fine with the hhgtg, but you need to beat the sewers to get that 11:09 stenno | sometimes you are on discord and sometimes on irc <-- well observed XD 11:09 or somehow have found a wand of level teleport (I've only ever found one) 11:09 whats going on on discord 11:10 stenno: idk? same as here mostly 11:10 i have some other servers and contacts i only talk to here 11:10 there* 11:10 actually it doesn't matter, i wont leave irc 11:10 fair 11:10 but generally speaking the optional branches are really dangerous and not really worth it 11:10 the main difference is tho 11:10 i have discord on my phone 11:10 i don't have irc on my phone 11:10 aah 11:10 right 11:11 so the other day when i was out for the first time in about five years 11:11 i chatted here a bit via discord 11:11 while on tubes and stuff 11:11 (obviously not while doing fun social activities) 11:12 you didn't leave your flat for 5 years? 11:12 well, it sure felt like that lmao 11:13 hikikomori 11:13 (yeesh, germans, always so literal) 11:13 welcome to british hyperbole 11:13 ^ mendacity 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 795 points, T:1375, killed by a hobbit 11:13 sorry, i am bad in picking up those hyperboles :P 11:14 tinklebear: what's a mendacity? 11:14 yeah suck it superbowl, we have british hyperbowl 11:14 britain 1 - usa 0 11:14 XD 11:14 a kind of fixer-uper metropolis 11:14 superb owl 11:14 /r/superbowl is actually about superb owls 11:14 * aoei will now always say superbowl as "super-bo-lee" 11:14 which is cool 11:14 stenno: haha 11:14 nice 11:15 also /r/trees is about weed and /r/marijuanaenthusiasts is about trees 11:15 anyway 11:15 rofl 11:15 the world of reddit is strange indeed :o 11:16 i dont know much about it 11:16 superbole is great and I'm stealing it 11:16 glad you got some social time outside 11:16 stenno: it was epic we had raclette and drank til 7am 11:16 we also played boardgames 11:16 yay boardgames 11:16 the first one was a game where you have to paint paintings faster than bob ross 11:16 which? 11:16 lol 11:16 like you got cards with colours and brushes on them 11:16 dunno that one 11:16 and if you got hte right ones in your pallete you can paint parts of the painting 11:16 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:16 but if you roll bob's face bob ross gets to move 11:17 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 11:17 and if he moves too much he finishes the painting and the round is over 11:17 and then we played this game called "bier" 11:17 which is a german drinking game 11:17 thats a good name 11:17 sounds like it 11:17 the board is a circuit and you roll dice to move 11:17 and then depending on where you land you do silly stuff 11:17 usually involving drinking alcohol 11:18 well this sucks. finished unnethack sokoban and the prize i wanted (reflection) is missing 11:18 no monster had it 11:19 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 11:19 board games ftw 11:19 the door was gone and all that was there was elbereth 11:19 its easy to socialize with others even if you are an introvert 11:20 i didn't know reflection was guaranteed 11:20 i thought only boh was guaranteed in un 11:20 un has three prizes afaik: cloak of mr, amulet of reflection, or boh 11:21 hm 11:21 i am pretty sure those get randomized and only boh is guaranteed 11:21 it has in every other game 11:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Knight, on T:21506 11:21 hothraxxa is correct from what I remember (but has been a while) 11:22 The final level offers a guaranteed bag of holding, a cloak of magic resistance or displacement and an amulet of reflection, life saving or flying. 11:22 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Sokoban_(UnNetHack) 11:22 I bow to the wiki 11:22 yes i just read that. still supposed to be three prizes 11:22 right 11:22 maybe life saving got used up while you cleared the zoo? 11:23 yes that's what i'm thinking 11:23 i didn't notice but who pays close attention in ahuge dustup 11:23 yah fair 11:23 anyway now i'm magic resistant 11:23 I need to remember to go change my scrollback in nethackrc to 999999 so I don't have to get ttyrec diving 11:23 and fighting is even noisy in un, so stealth is of not much help 11:24 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 11:24 what do you think of noisy fighting (maybe even in vanilla)? 11:24 i kinda like it ngl 11:24 bleh polytrap 11:24 isn't it in vanilla now? 11:24 uuh 11:24 is it? 11:24 i don't know i don't play vanilla 11:25 hah 11:25 so much good shit in 3.7.0 11:25 its really worth playing 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35367 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35369 11:25 but i assume you have progressed to the 'hard' variants like evil, grunt, spork, un 11:26 sort of 11:26 hey what have you done with the real stenno 11:26 i don't play eveil any more and i never liked spork 11:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 66 points, T:286, killed by a guard 11:26 amateurhour: i am also very concerned 11:26 amateurhour: hm? 11:26 :/ 11:26 D: 11:26 what? 11:26 The Real Stenno (tm) would be like 11:26 3.7 bad it still contains speed randomisation 11:26 lol 11:26 grunt i quite like. i just ascended a caveperson 11:26 3.7 horrible drawbridge smashy broken stuff 11:26 yeah i sa that 11:27 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 11:27 we're just messing with you ofc 11:27 nice to see you warming up to the madness that is the 37 beta :D 11:27 just because there are bad things in 3.7 doesnt change the fact that there is a ton of really, really good stuff in it 11:27 like lack of purpL at castle 11:27 yes 11:27 mystery nerf 11:27 yes 11:27 amnesia nerf 11:27 no-tele level only when demon prince still alive 11:27 a lot of that is thanks to aosdict i think 11:27 aosdict: ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD 11:27 i mean all hail you <3 11:27 heh, the one player who is always going to find 3.6/3.7/3.8/3,200/whatever bad... is me :P 11:27 yeah he submitted a lot of great patches 11:28 aosdict is the best <3 11:28 stenno: i have pizza im ofen :o 11:28 ich habe* 11:28 oh here is something, please suggest a role i should try foodless with 11:28 i like xnethack, most fun of the 3.6+ variants 11:28 stenno: wizard 11:28 aoei: auch Pizza wollen! ♥ 11:28 i think the role doesn't really matter 11:28 no, wizard is boring 11:28 stenno: wizard w/o =oSD startscum? 11:28 i guess still boring maybe because polyself 11:28 idk 11:28 well yeah with =oSD of course 11:28 stenno: caveman 11:29 well wizard gets hungerless spellcasting so that trivializes it a bit more 11:29 ok 11:29 stenno: i meant w/o =oSD but its still less challenging if you can get a polykit 11:29 just polyself to $race to fix hunger 11:29 yeah polyself to own race 11:29 but, if you do like, foodless atheist 11:29 then please wiz 11:29 pretty lame imo lol, oesn't even break polyselfless 11:29 otherwise you'ree fucked lol 11:29 nah cav is cool 11:30 stenno: boring if you dont do atheist tho 11:30 atheist foodless just sounds like it would depend too much on early luck 11:30 food athe cav 11:30 not really interesting in grinding until i find a lucky =oSD or even polykit 11:30 yea you need an early =oSD or an early polykit otherwise you're fucked lol 11:30 right 11:30 so no ath foo for now 11:30 i still didn't ascend nudist 11:30 those monsters that use some chant to make your god mad at you are so annoying when sokosolver 11:31 already grinded a lot of peacefuls the last days 11:31 stenno: should i progress my ranger RT run 11:31 er paci 11:31 aoei: yes 11:31 or progress my minturn WoW run 11:31 get it done 11:31 i have a game with WoW 11:31 nah 11:31 realtime first 11:31 oki 11:31 i did minetown and soko within about 30min i think 11:31 and when you finish that as a reward you can do your minturn wow 11:31 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 11:31 now i have to dive for castle and hope for best 11:31 i suppose 11:31 neat 11:31 i *could* also backtrack to minetown for some BUC i suppose 11:32 but idk if i want to 11:32 if you finished castle after 1h you are good 11:32 its effort likek 11:32 nah, no backtracking 11:32 yeah fuck backtracking 11:32 that's super lame 11:32 you will find an altar sooner or later 11:32 what about luckstone tho 11:32 i guess i dont need luck so much 11:32 really 11:32 get it when you have =oTC 11:32 yeah that's faster 11:32 true 11:32 which role? 11:32 ranger 11:32 race? 11:32 You speedrunners are bonkers 11:32 because you and lux both said to do ranger lol 11:32 i picked elf because of tonal XD 11:33 then realised after soko... no tonal 11:33 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Nob Elf Fem Cha), 15 points, T:87, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:33 ok so you'd wish for mkot 11:33 gives slotless tc, perfect 11:33 yeah if i can get an early wish 11:33 but like 11:33 no lamps in minetown this game :( 11:33 shrug 11:33 i could oracle fountain dip maybe 11:33 nah 11:33 well i named Sting already 11:33 you are fine if you get it at the castle 11:33 erp 11:33 so if i get another arti im fucked 11:33 cuz i wanted to sac for Stormy 11:33 y u name sting before you get elven broadsword 11:34 idk 11:34 how about raiding castle, wishing for mkot and then saccing for stormy 11:34 i started with an elven dagger lol 11:34 sure but 11:34 heh yea i guess that works 11:34 IDK IM NOOB OK 11:34 SORY 11:34 heh i shoudl cehck on my pizza 11:34 unlike luxidream i really like artiwishes, especially mkot for elf ran 11:34 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 11:35 i am sure he will tell you that its totally fine without 11:35 but its just such a resource saver 11:35 it's also a WHOLE WISH though 11:35 i can polypile a TC ring 11:35 yes but an amazing wish 11:35 and often do lol 11:35 true i mean it is pretty sick 11:35 half phys + slotless tc 11:35 can't get much better 11:35 and only weights a key 11:36 yea 11:36 its a great artifact 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased ring of p'hul", on T:31533 11:36 dont get me wrong 11:36 Oh blow me 11:36 pizza needs a few more min i guess 11:37 krm26: you made a p'hul out of yourself 11:37 (idk what when wrong?) 11:37 stenno: LOL 11:37 anyway lets do foodless cav 11:38 stenno: :o 11:38 nicve 11:38 nice* 11:38 gl 11:38 so lots of praying and first wish will be =oSD 11:38 stenno: after my pizza i will try to get to castle :o 11:38 i think 11:38 gogo 11:38 oh you cna ping me and i can watch 11:38 nice 11:38 i will stfu if you dont like backseat gaming/comments 11:39 hahahaa 11:39 i am such a fucking backseat gamer regarding nethack, its not even nice 11:39 you should have seen how much i spammed luxidream's twitch chat last time i watched him play lmao 11:39 i spammed so much shit to him too lol 11:39 twitch blocked my messages occasionally for typing too fast 11:39 xD 11:40 but its just, if you have his audio comments from him too, its really exceptional playing 11:40 he's pretty great lol 11:40 i just hit random keys and hope to be lucky, but he really plays gracefully 11:40 dunno how to say it 11:40 he has an elegant play style 11:40 thats a good way to say it! 11:40 really really good nethack playing 11:42 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 11:42 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Elf-Nob Elf Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1030 11:42 <{Demo}> posh and elegant, how luxi play nethack 11:43 he moves with a purpose, to make a really obscure black midi reference 11:44 <{Demo}> nope my metro zu reference wins 11:44 dunno those 11:45 well you win regarding the obscurity i guess 11:45 oh florida 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:31817 11:49 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 11:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Elf-Nob Elf Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:1790 11:52 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Cav Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1805 11:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Cav Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:1932 11:59 isn't it boring if you just wish for =oSD :P 12:00 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790987050471522304/unknown.png 12:00 no 12:01 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 12:02 <@p0werm0de> scared of knight quest now since i read its hard 12:02 its fine if you have reflection it hink 12:03 <@p0werm0de> dont have 12:03 well 12:03 how did you beat castle then? 12:03 <@p0werm0de> barely got some resists 12:03 <@p0werm0de> eh i do quest before castle no 12:03 you do what?? 12:03 <@p0werm0de> i did that on tourist at least 12:03 stenno: he quests before castle ;o 12:03 ok 12:04 <@p0werm0de> and on samurai i died doin it 12:04 pro-tip, don't do sam quest til after Orcus 12:04 every other quest after castle is fine 12:04 <@p0werm0de> tourist the wiki also said ASAP 12:04 <@p0werm0de> it wasnt hard at all 12:04 yeah but the wiki gives some awfuol advice sometimes 12:05 fair 12:05 <@p0werm0de> get the credit card can charge all kind of stuff non stop 12:05 <@p0werm0de> def would do again 12:05 idk, if you can then fair enough 12:05 <@p0werm0de> ok so i go castle first on knight? 12:05 with some playstyles its unlikely you will be able to do quest before castle 12:06 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Mal Law) obtained the Sokoban prize, on T:8665 12:06 yeah unless you get reflection some other way, probably do castle first 12:06 gj amateurhour 12:06 thanks 12:06 shame it was a boh 12:07 huh? would you have preferred a CDSM? 12:07 amulet of reflection was what I was hoping for 12:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Cav Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3040 12:07 well, you'll see plenty of final soko levels over the course of the game, with probably a bunch of amulets of reflection 12:07 <@p0werm0de> i also got bag of holding and have like 3 of em again 12:08 All the way through castle and no stethoscope yet, how weird 12:08 gotta id them though or it could be amulet of game over or whatever :P 12:08 they're not guaranteed to be id it seems 12:08 uh not guaranteed to be reflection I mean 12:09 which is a blessing and a curse of course 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Sorceress, on T:36040 12:09 wow im super sleepy now 12:09 food coma time 12:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Nob Elf Fem Cha), 22052 points, T:3572, killed by an energy vortex 12:09 amateurhour: well, save up one scroll of standard id for the amulets you're gonna find then? ;) 12:10 ideally I'd id scroll of identify at some point 12:10 might have to steal from this shop 12:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hlf Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13773 12:11 the layout makes it kinda easy to steal from that one, because you can reach the stairs quickly while the shopkeeper is a ways away from them 12:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Cav Gno Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a giant beetle), on T:4259 12:11 yeah those are only clouds between the stairs 12:11 so can actually go downstairs 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:36192 12:12 yes, but even if they were iron bars, you could just smash one of them with a high-heeled shoe :D (that doesn't anger the shopkeeper) 12:12 not found any of those yet 12:15 so will the kops come after me forever then? 12:15 well, they might chase you for a while 12:15 I couldn't tell if that was the case or not when I was playing ico, but it might have just been because of how often I stole, heh 12:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5156 12:15 when you steal, you get a "kop wanted level" that makes it so that new kops spawn for a while, and if the value of stolen goods was high, it'll go on for longer 12:16 do you know how long 20k would last? 12:16 uhh, for 20000 turns I guess? 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 759 points, T:1433, killed by a dwarf 12:17 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 17528 points, T:22695, killed by a stone giant 12:18 ah so basically forever as I'll probs die before then :^) 12:20 you're a monk, surely you can handle a bunch of kops? 12:20 yeah, it's not about killing the kops 12:20 it's about the increased chance of monsters spawning in front of the holes 12:20 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3402 12:20 oh, yeah that can be annoying 12:21 use a bow to kill monsters behind the boulders :D 12:21 got one in my box, took me ages to get a range weapon 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3459 12:22 my randomised helmet is pretty good this time 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2856 points, T:3468, killed by a dwarf king 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4101 points, T:4569, killed by a spotted jelly 12:27 oh an altar, woot 12:27 The asshole gnome rogue uses a slowing gaze! You slow down. 12:27 bleh 12:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 7580 points, T:7470, killed by a giant mimic 12:28 oops 12:29 oofff 12:29 rip babes 12:29 i wonder if =oSD is even the best first wish 12:29 amateurhour: huh you stopped dual-wielding? 12:29 it should be 12:29 probalby not 12:29 you don't think so? 12:29 stenno: wanna watch me splat elf ran? 12:29 sure 12:29 stenno: you can get by on prayer for ages i think 12:29 for a bit at least 12:29 yeah but i also need to do HP prayer every now and then 12:30 probably less if i go DSM 12:30 no playing yet 12:30 I put it on because I was surrounded, but I really need to train martial arts 12:30 it takes forever to get to grandmaster and I'm only expert 12:30 aoei: are you starting? 12:30 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 26.1] 12:30 stenno: yeah just a sec 12:30 oki 12:31 ah, well in slex you'll train both the weapon skill (or martial arts) and dual-wielding if you dual-wield; no idea who had that *****-**** idea of making it so that in vanilla it doesn't train the weapon skill :P 12:31 however, martial arts trains faster if you don't twoweapon, so I guess if you want to max it out ASAP you'll want to not dual-wield for now 12:31 stenno: i will be on twitch but my mic is shit so i cant do proper commentary :( 12:31 omg really? 12:31 yeah, slex fixes all the scrappy mechanics from vanilla :P 12:31 what sort of speed difference are we talking? 12:31 oh i was just going to watch on DGL 12:31 IIRC it trains at half the normal rate while dual-wielding 12:31 <@p0werm0de> @Joanna tiles? 12:32 down with tiles, booooo hissss 12:32 <@p0werm0de> yy i am console hater 12:32 tiles gives you piles 12:32 aoei: whats your twitch? 12:32 aoeixsz4 12:32 what does the xsz mean 12:32 the only game with good tiles is Elona, and maybe Castle of the Winds but sadly that one's not really moddable 12:32 Xclusive StreamZ!!! 12:33 aosdict: it means i mashed the keyboard one time when aoei was taken 12:33 but i like your backronym and im gonna use it 12:33 well, enjoy your free backronym 12:34 thanks, i shall ;) 12:34 aoei: ok watching 12:34 ight i best get playin then 12:34 * aosdict checks the fine print, discovers that backronyms are not free in all circumstances, invoices aoei 200 zorkmids up front per 10 royalties per use 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:32613 12:39 I hate falling this side of the boulder 12:39 pretty sure you have to break one 12:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:4816 12:39 nah, you can just jump down a hole and come back up via the stairs, then you're on the side of the boulder you want 12:40 I've already fallen 3 floors 12:40 but yolo I guess 12:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:3251 12:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3256 12:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:4881 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide gauntlets of protection", on T:32619 12:43 lol finally after 11487 turns I can use the other sokosolver ability 12:43 guess I got really unlucky with that one 12:44 rnz(4000), so yeah it rolled rather high 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 mithril helm of speed", on T:32623 12:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2243 points, T:3314, killed by a black unicorn 12:45 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 12:46 brb a sec 12:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:7188 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased ring of p'hul", on T:32805 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:41, on T:105766 12:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Reconnoiteress, on T:10281 12:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:105782 12:53 a troll with a wand of striking 12:53 brilliant 12:53 lol how fitting 12:53 can I even solve this now? 12:53 stenno: cani get stormy for same race sac 12:54 the boulders might barely be enough; if not, just spawn new ones 12:54 glad I didn't go for the luckstone 12:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased amulet of reflection", on T:105820 12:54 aoei: i don't know, have you named orcrist tho? 12:55 stenno: no, i already got it as sac gift lol 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:33026 12:55 and second sac gift is taking ages 12:55 uh 12:55 should waited til iød named it 12:55 that will take _forever_ then 12:55 whatever fml castle dive time 12:55 yes 12:55 i already camped fora ges after orcrist tho :( 12:55 fuck it 12:55 conflict is enough for castle lol 12:56 you know that you now opened the neutral arti bucket too right? 12:56 er the unaligned 12:56 like your next gift isn't guaranteed to be stormy 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) genocided gray dragons, on T:33041 12:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:105923 13:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 37402 points, T:13083, killed by a giant zombie 13:04 hmm do I risk praying to cure sliming or read a scroll of cure do you think Amy? 13:04 amateurhour: got any frag grenades? 13:04 or a wand/scroll of fire? 13:04 maybe a potion of oil? 13:04 if I have the wand or scroll they're not id'd 13:04 same with potion 13:04 well I dunno how long it is since your last prayer or whether you did something to reduce your luck 13:05 been ages but some turkish guy was in a wall a few floors ago 13:05 so might risk the prayer then read the scroll I guess 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1512 points, T:1893, killed by a mountain centaur 13:05 just checking if the nearest elemental is fire 13:06 phew! 13:06 thanks Shan Lai ching, I knew I could count on you buddy 13:06 would be nice to have a unicorn horn 13:06 are you just negligent or are really none of your wands a wand of fire and no potion a potion of oil? 13:07 lol well how would I have id'd them? 13:07 wands: engrave-testing, potions: apply-testing 13:07 the light shops didn't have potions 13:07 if you try to apply every potion, the potion of oil will auto-identify once you apply it 13:07 and yeah I've neglected to check wands for a few floors as I batch them up as you get so many 13:07 hahaha 13:08 lol 13:08 first one 13:08 well, now you have a way to save yourself should you get slimed again 13:08 you can't just engrave test whenever you like anyways as soko 13:08 because fleecy terrain etc can mess you up 13:09 -!- nicole has quit [Quit: brb] 13:10 alright your game inspired me to implement two more evil patch ideas, but only for evilvariant mode: 1. if a monster breaks boulders with a wand of striking, YOU lose a point of luck; 2. uncursed luckstones won't leave your inventory if your luck is negative :P 13:11 1 is really mean 13:11 2 is ok 13:11 Fleecy terrain? Dare I ask? 13:11 well it's called "evil variant" for a reason :D 13:11 fair! 13:12 stenno you should hear some of the ideas that are in the main game if you think those sounds like evil variant additions lol 13:12 just wanted to say, 2 could also be in the main game mode 13:12 imagine there's like 20+ different types of gray stone that all autocurse and can't be dropped while cursed 13:12 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:12 Fleecy shouldn't even be a word, when we have the perfectly good floccose 13:12 cool 13:13 only 2 of them can be id'd by kicking them, the loadstone and loadboulder 13:13 ... loadboulder ... 13:13 and soon in the near future 13:13 there'll be autocursing _gems_ as well 13:13 It's like a boulder, but really heavy? 13:13 so basically just don't pick up any gems at all lol 13:14 lol loadboulder 13:14 anyways brb for dinner 13:14 -!- nicole has joined #hardfought 13:14 the loadboulder is like a loadstone but with the (much higher) weight of a boulder 13:15 <{Demo}> thats not fair 13:15 fuck speedrun is hard lol 13:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Orc Fem Una), 900 points, T:1574, zombified by a diseased hobbit corpse 13:19 boatLULder 13:20 if i don't wish =oSD as first wish, i have to time my wishes with my food prayer 13:20 a slight nuisance 13:20 (foodless) 13:20 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 13:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 3852 points, T:1356, killed by a killer bee 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Bond697's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:2860 13:22 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 13:22 -!- tjo has joined #hardfought 13:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:1571 13:25 -!- loli has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:3188 13:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 234 points, T:822, killed by a small mimic 13:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed every1's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1601 13:29 -!- loli has joined #hardfought 13:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Orc Fem Una), 854 points, T:1294, killed by a giant spider 13:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1418 points, T:2003, killed by a black unicorn 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3830 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2261 points, T:4350, poisoned by a snake 13:40 lol some nice treasure chest here 13:40 some arrows, a boomerang, a potion, and a slime mold 13:40 food takes 45 minutes already 13:40 pls come 13:41 in this time i could have gone to the supermarket 13:41 actually why _did_ i not go to the supermarket 13:41 fucking lazy bastard 13:41 because you're la- damn, beat me to it XD 13:41 your speed was randomised and this time u rolled a 0 and sat back down again 13:42 rofl amateurhour 13:42 i noticed that in my last runs i didn't complain about randomized speed 13:42 amateurhour: i failed at ------ 13:42 wait jno 13:42 my goal was stated clearly 13:42 i intented to splat rangers 13:42 and I did splat rangers 13:42 go teamsplat! 13:42 so i succeeded pretty well actually 13:42 :D 13:43 amateurhour: smashing keys = more YASD 13:43 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:43 who knew? 13:43 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 13:44 Amy how come I can tell this lil permamimic corpse is blessed? 13:44 amateurhour: the more stuff you BUC-test via altar, the more "BUC knowledge" you accumulate, which increases the chance that newly spawned items spawn with their BUC known 13:44 similarly, if you use appraisal a lot, you'll have a chance of recognizing a newly spawned weapon's + 13:45 ah right 13:45 if you were planning to use altars to train spirituality, don't worry: the chance of an item's BUC being known won't reach 100% :P 13:45 stenno: i can't stop thinking about those rings ;_; 13:45 amateurhour: one of my splats had conflict, TC and PC from sokoban lmao 13:45 that was very upsetting :( 13:45 that's the only way to train spirituality isn't it? 13:46 ah rip aoei 13:46 but you gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette du fromage 13:46 amateurhour: offering a corpse or praying to your god trains it too 13:47 amateurhour: THATS ALL YOU CAN SAAAY 13:47 now the food came but they forgot the beverage 13:47 stenno: D: 13:47 those are more likely to destroy that altar though aren't they? 13:47 F 13:47 oh and the gnostic techniques (invoke deity, spirituality check, preaching) train the skill too 13:47 what do those actually do? 13:47 offering a corpse should have the same 1% chance of the altar vanishing as dropping an item on it 13:47 now i have to trust them to actually deliver later because i already accepted the order 13:48 ah well i am a regular there 13:48 invoke deity you should be familiar with since your char has it, spirituality check tells you whether it's safe to pray, and preaching improves your alignment record 13:48 stenno: maybe they give you something extra since they fucked up? 13:48 in teh worst case i have to call 13:48 should be familiar with 13:48 heh 13:48 _should_ 13:48 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 13:48 shouldnt be neccessary but that would be nice i guess 13:48 i still gave a tip 13:48 I also have preaching, why am I not using that to offset the turkish chants then? what a dingus 13:48 yea 13:49 idk i think some places they give you a bonus if they forgot something, sometimes 13:49 i don't expect it, its fine 13:49 yeah it's not to expect 13:50 but it's nice if they do lol 13:50 yeah~ 13:50 now, related to the topic, my foodless cav 13:50 haha 13:50 i will shower and make something with tofu and cabbage 13:50 and some noodles etc 13:50 should be p. tasty 13:50 as i have to time my food prayers with my wishing anyway, i could do something stupid like soko before magic lamp wish 13:51 but that is probably too stupid 13:51 idk, i used to do it often 13:51 and sometimes i got the prize before dyingf 13:51 i relly really don't like it 13:51 'sometimes' 13:51 ... 13:51 so can invoke deity cure stoning etc? 13:51 ok occasionally 13:51 and if you die, you are angry becuase you died with blessed magic lamp 13:51 but yeah i think in general its a mistake lol 13:51 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 13:51 and your lamp wish might have prevented the death 13:51 i wasted many potential lamp wishes like that lmao 13:51 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:52 "but i want to check soko prize and then wish for SDSM only if no "oR" 13:52 well thanks for reinforcing my conviction to actually _not_ do soko before lamp wish 13:52 no problem C: 13:53 i am already getting angry when i die with non-blessed magic lamp because no way of blessing 13:53 that must be much worse 13:53 <@Tone> That was more viable in 343 when soko was a joke 13:53 yeah 13:53 lol true Tone 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:63950 13:53 soko zoo is nasty without stealth 13:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1167 13:53 and the general monsters spawning 13:53 worst are chameleons in the zoo 13:54 those are ticking timebombs, at some point they will poly into purple L or similar and just pwn you 13:54 and its basically a race against time to reach and neutralize them before that happens 13:54 super stressful 13:54 <@Tone> Pushing boulders around when an arch lich teleports in 13:55 <@Tone> At least you can use wand of digging there to get away 13:55 even if you can survive the initial attack, they will cast invis at self and then poly into some shit 13:55 true 13:56 @Tone have you seen my pacifist astral splat a few days ago 13:56 <@Tone> No, what happened? 13:57 my archon didn't follow me to the planes because the water bubble was littered with gremlin corpses, so i accidentally walked into the portal without it adjacent 13:57 even made it to the first altar but it was the wrong one 13:57 <@Tone> yikes :( 13:57 in retrospect i was wasteful with my !oFH but i don't think they would have helped much 13:57 <@Tone> That's really rough 13:57 <@Tone> Did you have a leash? 13:58 no, magic flute 13:58 i thought i wouldn't need leash when i had magic whistle 13:58 magic whistle* 13:58 not flute 13:58 yeah now i am trying foodless first 13:58 <@Tone> did you whistle them into the portal before entering yourself? or just make sure they were adjacent? 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 428 points, T:1362, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:59 pets seem to enter the portal less often than in older versions 13:59 i whistled them next to the portal and then made sure that they were adjacent when i entered 13:59 apart from water -> astral 14:00 that was really the last point of pet-related failure and i failed 14:00 really frustrating 14:00 i am actually confident that i can beat the gametime paci record with similar luck 14:00 <@Tone> Were you able to make new pets on Astral? 14:01 nope 14:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 iron five-headed viperwhip", on T:284807 14:02 <@Tone> I guess conflict, tele wands, and jumping could get you through astral pretty easily as a pacifist. You wouldn't really be prepared for that if you had a strong archon though 14:02 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1608324391.nh.html 14:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3717 14:02 !rng do space base | maybe later 14:02 amateurhour: do space base 14:02 i had 5 tele wands but they got empty at some point 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1841 14:03 note the Angel of hermes lounging exactly at the chokepoint 14:03 what a traitor 14:04 <@Tone> it knew 14:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:3876 14:04 actually would a scroll of scare monster help here? 14:04 i am not sure which monsters resist in 3.7 14:05 assuming the riders are not yet adjacent :P 14:05 i know riders resist 14:05 <@Tone> Angles also resist iirc 14:05 <@Tone> I don't remember if priests do 14:06 The scroll on the ground no longer scares any @ monster or any unique monster. 14:06 <@Tone> I use them a lot on Astral but it's mostly good for summon nasties when you have liches 14:06 so no help 14:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:32523 14:07 ?oSM was so imba in 3.6 lul 14:07 ah well 14:07 next time i will geno g instead of ; on water i guess if they spawn 14:07 what a nuisance 14:08 now i kinda wanna run again.. 14:08 ah well imma do it 14:08 fuck foodless 14:08 should be rather trivial in any case 14:08 <@Tone> Foodless is just seeing how quickly you can get slow digestion 14:09 oh i actually figured out that =oSD is probably not the best early wish 14:09 <@Tone> There are a few things you can do to buy time buy it's very RNG 14:09 DM is better probably 14:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 4838 points, T:5201, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted plains centaur, while sleeping 14:09 DSM 14:09 and then food prayer until castle or random =oSD 14:10 <@Tone> How do you keep your prayer timeout down, altars? 14:10 i am playing cav, so no spellcasting 14:10 i assume that i will be fine with normal prayer timeout 14:10 <@Tone> Nope 14:10 nope? 14:11 works fine in teh early game at least 14:11 i know fighting causes hunger 14:11 <@Tone> The prayer timeout is shorter initially 14:11 <@Tone> So the first one is fine 14:11 <@Tone> but prayer only resets your nutrition to 900 14:11 <@Tone> Prayer timeout is unreliable even at like 1500+ turns passed 14:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 213 points, T:713, killed by a hobbit 14:12 kinda expect that i can confidently safely pray after 500-ish turns 14:14 <@Tone> I pushed like 1300 turns on my tnnt foodless run and it was still only 97% success chance or so 14:15 mm 14:15 well imma keep that in mind, thanks 14:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 307 points, T:932, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:15 that would mean that even liquid diet wont really help out much 14:16 if we are talking about ~300 nutr 14:16 for each prayer, assuming 10-11 prayers until castle 14:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:106328 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Pri Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3237 14:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:106330 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Pri Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3251 14:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 558 points, T:1617, zombified by a hobbit zombie 14:22 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1854 14:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 3809 points, T:4546, killed by a wolf 14:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1211 points, T:2849, zombified by a hobbit zombie 14:36 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 752 points, T:906, killed by a dwarf 14:38 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:39534 14:42 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 26.1] 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34239 14:49 -!- Kontroll1r has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49 -!- sebastia1toby has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50 [hdf-eu] [nh363] infinigon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10023 14:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a golden naga hatchling corpse, on T:4237 14:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:4559 14:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:4560 14:54 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 14:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:36901 14:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 2931 points, T:1948, killed by a small dart 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered Beyonce, her faithful kitten, on T:1189 14:59 Screw you, balrog! Good luck stealing my hands! 15:00 hmm 15:00 should i go down the dungeons in search for an altar or should i do soko 15:00 really need holy water for my two magic lamps 15:01 guess soko is still the best idea 15:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5454 15:01 I'd at least look down to quest portal for altars 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 9 steel throwing stars on an altar, on T:4559 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2313 points, T:5119, killed by an elf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:07 stenno: i think i will switch to orc ranger 15:07 i only chose elf for tonal, whcih doens't exist 15:08 also having elven cloak is idiotic when you get stealth at xl7 anyway 15:09 elf with a wand of sleeping 15:09 classic 15:09 FUCK 15:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 660 points, T:6616, killed by a Woodland-elf, while sleeping 15:09 2 magic lamps, magic whistle 15:10 no holy water, no ltars 15:10 fuck fuck fuck 15:10 :-( 15:10 :( 15:10 rip 15:10 That's why it is best to start with a garbage character with no good drops 15:11 start with a garbage character, what? 15:11 what do you mean 15:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:108419 15:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on Dlvl:5 (for the 5th time), on T:108445 15:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:10839 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:23856 15:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:108556 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:23887 15:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 150 points, T:935, killed by a boulder 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 282 points, T:2038, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39801 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:39802 15:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class z, on T:108899 15:23 troll reading scroll of earth :| 15:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:108981 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3354 15:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:108998 15:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:109014 15:25 <{Demo}> get trolled 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1012 points, T:3965, killed by an iguana 15:27 <@p0werm0de> took a break in castle y0. but lookin fine so far 15:27 <@p0werm0de> wishes incoming 15:28 <@p0werm0de> just need 1 clear water to bless charge scroll~+ 15:28 <@p0werm0de> ah well can dip for sure 15:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:109141 15:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1238 15:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "ice box", on T:109158 15:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of booze", on T:109159 15:30 qt: seems like the game is not crashing and bugging out badly like I feared after the vanilla merge 15:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of booze", on T:109160 15:30 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 15:30 think I'm stuck in the sewers again 15:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of booze", on T:109161 15:30 qt is conservative with wishes even on the high altar. should be wishing for 5 15:31 lol 15:31 <@p0werm0de> also halucinating mushrooms > booze 15:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4181636 points, T:109169, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/xnethack/dumplog/1607118076.xnh.html 15:31 <@p0werm0de> gg 15:31 gratz 15:31 gratz qt! 15:32 thanks, that's my first ascension outside of vanilla 15:32 nice one 15:32 what're you gonna do next? 15:32 I dunno 15:33 I will probably try some of the 3.4.3 based variants, I haven't played much of those 15:34 dnethack? :D 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:40055 15:35 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3164 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3339 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3755 15:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hlf Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:29208 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a cave spider, on T:5797 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3899 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Warrior, on T:25565 15:49 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 8 points, T:44, killed by a fox 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:6384 15:51 oh my gosh I did not even realize that you could leave bones on the ascension run 15:51 this feels so absurd, it's just like, everything 15:51 rodney doesn't show up in bones, does he? 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 5450 points, T:6380, killed by a troll 15:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hlf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Quicksilver", on T:29976 15:53 Neko-chan: no he is removed from bones levels 15:54 along with medusa, quest nemesis, quest leader, vlad, etc 15:54 this feels so unfair, I feel like I'm cheating 15:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 100 points, T:1401, killed by an invisible water demon, while fainted from lack of food 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1633 points, T:3867, quit 15:59 I've been slow rolling this magic lamp since like DL1 and I guess I'm just never gonna use it 15:59 there was a funny exploit where you could leave griefer bones with arbitrary uniques 16:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:40314 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10063 16:01 I like your creative item names Neko-chan 16:02 thank you, I like to have fun. Usually I go a lot crazier! 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 0 points, T:128, killed by a gas cloud 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:40855 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:40601 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:40602 16:07 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 9762 points, T:12348, killed by a raven 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:35443 16:08 [hdf-us] [spl] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1941 points, T:2204, quit 16:10 [hdf-us] [un] lunatunez (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof amulet of reflection", on T:8841 16:11 [hdf-us] [un] lunatunez (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 glowing dragon scale mail", on T:8843 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6099 points, T:2034, killed by a baby yellow dragon 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3751 16:13 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Asu Mal Law), 248253 points, T:24486, killed by a monster (beam troll), while praying unsuccessfully 16:14 gdi 16:14 rip 16:15 did you watch the sewers part Amy? 16:15 not entirely, but part of it 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4017 16:15 did you see the horrendous floor on the way up? rivers and moorland 16:15 was there for like an hour 16:15 well yeah that's normal for the sewers 16:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:911 16:16 luckily it was barely possible 16:16 got absolutely ganked by monsters at the bottom of the gamma caves though 16:17 ouch! and I was hoping you'd live long enough to kill the BOFH 16:17 well me too :P 16:17 are you sure martial arts can be trained while twoweaponing? was kind of hoping to get it to at least master 16:18 but got twoweapon to expert before then 16:18 should be possible, but I can wizmode to make sure 16:19 enemies appear to be able to go through crystal water, how can I do the same? 16:19 yep, trains both of them 16:19 guessing flying doesn't allow it 16:19 well you can go through crystal water by not flying :P 16:19 I tried purposefully dunking to cross over to the other side 16:19 but got unlucky on the coin toss 16:19 that's when the swarm arrived, and I was out of healing supplies from a previous horror floor 16:22 do you mean that if you're not flying you can go through it? 16:22 or do you also need to be able to swim or levitate or something 16:23 nah, crystal water is basically water on the ceiling; if you fly or levitate, you can't enter it, otherwise you can 16:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 530 points, T:6439, killed by an owlbear 16:23 oh 16:23 well damn that could have been fine then 16:23 fasjdflj 16:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Minetown, on T:2061 16:24 weeeee 16:24 woooooo 16:24 weeeeeee 16:25 whyyyyyyyy 16:25 fleecy 16:25 :D 16:25 :P 16:27 \o/ 16:28 /o\ 16:28 /o/ 16:28 \o\ 16:28 \m/ 16:28 semaphore party 16:28 qt3.14 16:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:3215 16:30 i like what you did there aoei 16:30 well im glad someone got it XD 16:31 * aoei high-fives K2 16:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed zoya's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:2457 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin named 80% of the time it works 100% of the time", on T:26177 16:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (arch-liches), on T:42601 16:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 260 points, T:1493, killed by a wand, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:37 that was dumb 16:38 man paci grinding is so exhausting lol 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42693 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42694 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:35735 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "holy marker named now that's what I call writing: 4-6 of your favorite scrolls", on T:26246 16:40 -!- rikersan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Minetown, on T:3170 16:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3170 16:43 <@luxidream> so I added BIND=v:repeat to my config and it doesn't seem to do anything 16:43 <@luxidream> what did I do wrong 16:44 <@luxidream> still brings up version whenever I press v 16:44 odd 16:44 try mappting to :M-v instead 16:44 maybe you can't ovveride that one 16:44 if using :M-? keybinds make sure altmeta is on 16:44 does that imply unbinding the previous key? 16:44 probably 16:45 did you start a new game afterwards? 16:45 <@luxidream> yeah I did 16:45 <@luxidream> it looks like I am unable to unbind the mighty version command 16:45 F 16:46 hmm should work 16:46 <@luxidream> control+a now does nothing 16:46 tho 16:46 <@luxidream> but v still brings up version 16:46 its even mentioned in the example on the wiki lol 16:46 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Binding_keys 16:46 well someone put a shit example in then 16:47 yeah but it also sounds like a bug 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6830 16:47 huh weird luxidream 16:47 i get the same thing when trying to bind M-v lol 16:49 oh right repeat doesnt exist as an extended command 16:49 i cant bind it to anything 16:49 -!- microlance has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:49 -!- tjo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:49 ... but i also have the thing where ^A no longer does anything lol 16:49 ok, it may be a specific bug with repeat 16:49 <@luxidream> yea you're supposed to be able to bind it 16:49 <@luxidream> maybe it's a bug 16:49 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/ae23330adc476a04e031644ee7e7398a6bc9b63d/src/cmd.c#L2929 16:49 It's listed in the guidebook 16:50 -!- tjo has joined #hardfought 16:50 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 16:50 'repeat' is I mean 16:50 in line 2935 16:51 yeah, i get the same thing as luxidream, attempting to bind it removes the ^A binding, but the new binding doens't work 16:51 i tried M-v (which gives long version info) 16:51 and i tried M-b which does nothing normally 16:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:7089 16:52 implies that you cannot bind repeat 16:52 well, even if that's the case, letting you unbind it but not giving you a new binding is obviously a bug 16:52 oh wait, no 16:52 how so stenno? 16:52 strcmp returns 0 if the strings are equal, right? 16:52 yeah 16:52 gotcha 16:53 * aoei sighs 16:53 ok so who wants to tell the devteam? 16:54 <@luxidream> does any binding work? 16:54 <@luxidream> I tried binding g to forcefight and that doesn't work either 16:54 idk what else to try lux, i already tried a binding that wasn't bound to anything 16:54 i have M-k bound to kick, that works 16:54 yeah luxidream I can't get it to work for anything either 16:54 ... wait that might be a default altmeta key 16:55 no, it's not 16:55 M-k is custom, and works 16:55 That makes this all the more mysterious lol 16:55 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:55 <@luxidream> probably the special commands don't work 16:55 <@luxidream> but extended commands do? 16:55 Yeah maybe it only works with normal extended commands 16:55 oh because 'v' is also #version extcoman 16:55 nd 16:55 yeah perhaps 16:55 seems to be hardcoded here struct ext_func_tab extcmdlist[] = { 16:57 ah well idk 16:57 that wiki page suggests other commands should be bindable with the long names, not just # extended stuff 16:57 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:58 the guidebook does too, and that's definitely what the bind_specialkey function stenno linked is supposed to do, definitely looks like a bug 16:59 bhaak: we found bugs!! 16:59 bhaak: fix it pls :v 16:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:00 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00 <@luxidream> should I open issue on github? 17:00 ? 17:01 yes 17:02 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 17:03 actually when you bind a key to a special command it's listed under Miscellaneous keys in ? i 17:04 but it doesn't actually do anything in game and it doesn't seem to overwrite the old command, e.g. I rebound to repeat and now there are two entries under Miscellaneous keys 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:41362 17:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hlf Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Green Dragon Scale Mail", on T:33314 17:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] galadriel (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2767 17:07 github issue would be helpful for bhaak i guess 17:08 luxidream: you know how to write them i assume? detailed and precise, yet concise 17:09 Dearest members of the development team, I write to you today in a time of great need 17:09 rofl amateurhour 17:09 exactly what i mean :^) 17:10 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 17:10 might splat some more rangers in a minute 17:11 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 17:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1481 17:13 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 17:13 Ugh, without Dragonbane Kathryn is gonna wreck me 17:14 Hello folks 17:14 hey Umby :) 17:14 <@nabru> Hello 17:14 Hello @nabru, Welcome to #hardfought 17:14 sup nabru 17:14 Don't think I have the cojones, I'll skip her 17:14 krm26: F 17:14 you can do it I believe in you 17:15 just cast enlarge cojones on yourself 17:16 That spell book wore out a decade ago 17:16 :( 17:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] galadriel (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4441 17:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] galadriel (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4474 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 422 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45299 17:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2344 17:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] galadriel (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 daggers on an altar, on T:4485 17:19 this is why you can't rebind repeat: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/ae23330adc476a04e031644ee7e7398a6bc9b63d/src/cmd.c#L3367 17:19 if it's changed to *cmd == g.Cmd.spkeys[DOAGAIN] you can rebind it 17:19 currently various special commands are just not handled via the g.Cmd.spkeys array so they can't be rebound 17:20 all the ones in this switch/case can be rebound https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/ae23330adc476a04e031644ee7e7398a6bc9b63d/src/cmd.c#L3386-L3476 17:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] galadriel (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1279 points, T:4582, killed by a giant mimic 17:21 because it uses the ch2spkeys command to find the binding in g.Cmd.spkeys, but that's not used elsewhere 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Con Orc Fem Cha), 630 points, T:1527, killed by a black pudding 17:22 s/command/function/ 17:22 oh eyah 17:22 good find 17:23 can submit a patch then :P 17:23 <@luxidream> oh, then rebinding fight works? 17:24 I think it would, at least I tested it with rebinding run.nopickup and it worked 17:24 Could really use a ring of acid resistance 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:39211 17:24 Though I think prefix commands might be handled elsewhere too, so that might complicate it for rebinding fight 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39214 17:25 [hdf-eu] [gh] galadriel (Mon Hum Fem Law), 482 points, T:385, killed by a small mimic 17:25 <@luxidream> yeah it works, I'll edit my issue then 17:25 <@luxidream> thanks 17:28 I don't envy the person trying to hunt down every case where g.Cmd.spkeys isn't used lol 17:28 thats nethack source code for you 17:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:54111 17:29 Umbire: did you ascend in the end? 17:29 Yahuh! 17:29 First high altar I found 17:29 Brought Jazz, the purple worms I tamed, and even a special friend 17:29 my PC just wakes up randomly sometimes so i might be afk when i go online 17:29 ncie 17:29 nice 17:29 woodchuck? 17:30 Close 17:30 idk 17:30 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/791070179634708510/Screenshot_20201222-040522.png 17:30 oh in figurine form 17:31 so you didn't apply? 17:31 when standing on altare? 17:31 -e 17:31 It took forever to get those fucks lined up and I had to do it twice + Pestilence was lit. right outside 17:31 aw 17:32 I probably *could* have but honestly 17:32 well its good enough i guess 17:32 Ye 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:35903 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:35937 17:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:55129 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:42242 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 706 points, T:1873, killed by a dwarf 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:36445 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:26803 17:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "ring of free action", on T:56290 17:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2319 17:51 uh, orctown i guess then 17:52 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Quit: spicycebolla] 17:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3002 17:53 Orc town? I thought we were going to twerk town, let me out of the car 17:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3046 17:53 maybe not that but let me take you to 17:53 funkytown 17:53 literally anywhere but orctown 17:54 <@luxidream> crazy noisy bizarre town 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1110 points, T:2640, killed by a rope golem 17:54 chase those crazy baldheads out of minetown 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3142 17:54 I'd literally rather have mindflayer town where it's all purple h with normal shops 17:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 1729 points, T:2812, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 17:57 i like the new non-amnesia inducing mindflayers 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) stole 750 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Klodzko's liquor emporium, on T:42837 18:00 {Demo}: can i make a nethack variant consisting of just a single level without up- or downstairs? 18:00 as long as you base it off slex 18:01 µhack exists already :P 18:01 [hdf-us] [un] lunatunez (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:8857 18:01 hey but brevishack is epic 18:02 can't improve on perfection 18:02 yeah but brevishack has more than one dungeon level 18:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:3108 18:03 <@luxidream> how about start on the astral plane with AoY and wand of wishing? 18:03 that sounds familiar 18:03 isn't there a dudley about this? 18:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Rogue, on T:3153 18:04 IIRC yes 18:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3269 18:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 1633 points, T:3117, killed by a soldier ant 18:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 runed daggers on an altar, on T:3273 18:06 when will brevishack come back :'( 18:06 it was a variant known for its... brevity 18:07 it was really fun, very 'arcade-y' 18:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3329 18:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Gno Mal Cha), 568 points, T:1588, killed by a little dog 18:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 27 points, T:64, killed by a newt 18:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:58258 18:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:58260 18:14 if i sell something to a shopkeeper, will the potential markup be fixed per shop? 18:15 stenno, yes, since 3.6 18:15 awesome, thanks 18:15 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:15 in 3.4.3 it was random per sell attempt so you had to get quotes repeatedly 18:16 wait but it could still be different for different items? 18:16 that is what i wanted to ask 18:16 the markup doesn't apply to identified items 18:16 like if i sell an 80zm scroll for 30, will each other item also have 25% markup (assuming not IDed)? 18:16 per shk 18:16 but if a shop applies the markup to one item it applies them to all 18:17 great, great 18:17 that makes price id so much easier 18:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a ninja-to entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1421 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "+2 blessed rustproof greased helm of brilliance", on T:47204 18:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a dagger entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1737 18:20 just wanted to say that i was petless paci in the DoD searching for a domestic monster but then got a tame djinni from a smoky (extra healing) 18:20 i can work with that 18:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a small shield entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2537 18:20 oh wow djinni has weapon attack lol 18:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2976 18:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3091 18:25 stenno, it can wear all armour, too 18:25 djinni are not sleep resistant lol 18:25 bit silly 18:25 jilles: oh wow man 18:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:59642 18:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2314 18:27 their level is also a bit lackluster; just enough to attack shopkeepers when fully grown 18:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +0 plumed helmet on an altar, on T:3392 18:27 Yeah, tame djinni are surprisingly fun 18:27 yes 18:27 Shame they can't get to Plane of Air levels 18:27 my djinni attacks a shk right now 18:27 might even be succesful 18:28 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:28 Speaking of which, I almost feel like Air was still worse than Fire for me 18:28 Getting fucked about by E constantly and nearly sailing into thunderbolts is not fun 18:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2787 points, T:3449, killed by a rothe, while reading a book 18:28 Akureyri hits the djinni. The djinni is killed! 18:28 Fire was bad but only got extra shitty because of all the fucking Archons 18:28 and petless again 18:28 normal speed, can wield weapons and wear armour 18:28 yeah seems not bad for a pet 18:28 and they can fly ofc 18:29 buuut still would rather have a wish :P 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (cockatrices), on T:28995 18:29 Umbire, there are various ways to deal with air elementals 18:29 I know 18:29 I ascended that run 18:30 best ways involve not getting engufled in the first place imo 18:30 It just sucked to have to deal with being ragdolled constantly 18:30 tooled horn/bugle 18:30 or be too big to be engulfed 18:30 I had a bunch of horns actually, dunno why I never thought to pull them out 18:30 (e.g. titan polyform) 18:30 and about Archons on Fire, I sometimes see them but I tend to run for the portal before they cause much trouble 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43575 18:30 I got nasties from Rodney before I could run proper 18:30 jilles: last ascension I was out of portal detection and had 3 archons 18:31 they still didn't manage to bother me much 18:31 aoei: Granted it was also way easier to deal with them from the inside 18:31 think thats a quit but it was fun while it lasted 18:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Mal Law), 4250 points, T:4064, killed by a dingo, while taking off clothes 18:31 Umbire: if you have the AC/HP to handle that and a high damage attack sure... 18:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:60232 18:31 some chars woulid prefer to not be engulfed in the first place tho 18:32 Ofc 18:32 -30 and dual-wielded MBane/short sword 18:32 could apply bag of tricks i guess lol 18:32 maybe i get domestic animal 18:32 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:32 oh MB is nice cuz you might stun them, resulting in being released 18:32 Using #tip with a bag of tricks will expend all the charges at once, so beware! 18:33 stun or scare i guess both would work 18:33 stenno: :O 18:33 that is AWESOME 18:33 imma do that lol 18:33 i have to try that at some point 18:33 hm should i 18:33 Go out with a bang, it'll be fun bones at least 18:33 idk, but if you have some magical taming it could be cool 18:33 only have tripe lo 18:33 well, TIL that #tipping a BoT will spend all its charges 18:34 ok imma do it 18:34 nope 18:36 yeah i didnt know it before either nabru 18:36 im so excited to try it out at some point 18:37 there doesn't seem a game use, though 18:37 Spawning monsters all at once to line up for sacs? 18:38 I've done it before, at least once by accident 18:38 There's probably a *few* game uses 18:38 yeah but in that case it's more convenient to spawn them in small groups 18:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3106 18:38 I almost never go for it anyway because a digger inevitably ends up among the group 18:38 otherwise some corpses may rot or be eaten before you can offer them 18:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a pair of old gloves entrusted to her by Set, on T:3369 18:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 1618 points, T:4272, zombified by a diseased kobold corpse, while fainted from lack of food 18:41 hmm, randomly reading source code I see new uses for the 'm' prefix 18:41 like what jilles ? 18:42 'me', 'm#offer', 'ma' uses inventory only (not floor) 18:42 'm_' travel: pop up a menu of interesting targets in view 18:42 ooooh cool 18:42 also cool 18:42 'm#loot' for removing saddle from adjacent monster without checking for containers at 18:43 and "menu operation" (whatever that may be) for 'm,' and 'm#tip' 18:43 Neat o: 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 9741 points, T:8711, killed by a giant leech 18:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:43762 18:45 super neato =O 18:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Wiz Inc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15075 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:43245 18:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1543 18:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:43736 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Knight, on T:29075 18:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:61509 18:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:43738 18:52 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:52 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 18:52 Unlock it with your key? [yn] (n) y 18:52 "Hey, stop picking that lock!" You stop unlocking the door. 18:52 wut? 18:52 i thought tht was just fine 18:52 You can't unlock doors by any means when in view of the watch I think 18:53 i am not picking it, i am unlocking it 18:53 Nope, skeleton keys count sadly 18:53 since when 18:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1288 18:54 Since now bitch 18:54 /j 18:54 then it was a coincience all the time i guess 18:54 Nah but it's the case in the mobile port 18:54 strange 18:54 So been like this for a few versions 18:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 robe", on T:43808 18:55 stenno: I think the thing is keys normally unlock the door in one or two turns so the watch doesn't usually *get* time to yell at you 18:56 from what I recall of my wiki trawls keys are faster in p. much every scenario 18:56 UNLESS you're a Rogue using a lock pick 18:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:43812 18:58 You start playing your harp. The harp produces very attractive music. 18:58 F 18:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 2228 points, T:1671, killed by a giant ant 18:59 that will be useful for paci 18:59 aw 18:59 Go team a! 18:59 i had a lot of trouble from gnome wizards in that minetown 18:59 kept stunning me for ages 18:59 Magic harps are goated for pacifists 18:59 ffs 18:59 ew, stunlocks 18:59 yeah it was brutal 18:59 Why won't the game let us pick those 18:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:43815 19:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Hum Fem Una), 3568 points, T:2125, killed by a Woodland-elf, while sleeping 19:02 hmm, you can also #tip your hat at a monster 19:02 Oh yeah, that was one of the earlier Neat Changes discussed 19:03 this lets you determine whether a hat worn by a peaceful humanoid is cursed or not 19:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:43927 19:03 That's an interesting application for it 19:04 Seems like it probably wouldn't be very useful though unless you are playing some sort of atheist petless run 19:04 Saves you the trouble of killing them, among others 19:05 (or helps you commit to killing them :B) 19:05 well yeah it also tells you about what hat they are wearing 19:05 Oh does it say specifically what kind of hat they are wearing? 19:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 grayswandir", on T:44318 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:29714 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29716 19:07 Yay Neko! 19:07 qt, no, only whether it's metallic ("helm") or not ("hat") 19:08 Hold on, I wanna watch 19:08 It should also check whether mtmp has free hands to tip the hat 19:08 How can he tip his hat if his hands are welded to his quarterstaff? completely immersion breaking 19:08 qt, that would be a bug report 19:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2250 19:09 Major, game breaking bug 19:10 :) 19:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1191 19:11 A ki-rin and two dragons, whew 19:11 Neko ballin' out 19:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:3954 19:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:3955 19:12 qt: you tip the hat WITH the quarterstaff, duh 19:12 hmm 19:13 aosdict with the 5Head 19:13 so, i don't have leash or magic whistle 19:13 Very good point aosdict 19:13 Umbire: I have a larger team but we had a run in with some trappers 19:13 i guess i will not even try to attempt sokoban 19:13 Ugh, trappers 19:13 stenno: sounds like the right choice 19:14 will get the first level stuff tho 19:14 This is my first time actually using a ki-rin and like, idk why I was so stressed about it. very good horsey 19:14 well it can't get reflection anymore iirc 19:15 I mean ki-rin are super hard to tame to begin with 19:15 justice for ki-rin! 19:15 ...wait hold on 19:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4551 19:17 Oh right, they can heal their own status problems now 19:17 sick 19:17 Neko-chan: I ascended my phone tourist, ran into like two different ki-rin, one just before the Planes 19:17 Nice! 19:17 I remember you seeing one at the castle 19:18 Yep 19:18 stenno: yeah, that's a huge issue and I am yet to decide how to handle it. I wish alchemy worked the same cause a centaur + 40 gain level + amulet of flying would get me there easily 19:18 stenno: You're correct but also https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Pegasus 19:18 I'd made a reference to amulets when editing but it was in the SLASH'EM section so that should be fine 19:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] charlie14690 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:62025 19:19 EvilHack info I'll have to poke around for 19:19 * Umbire should probably try Evil while he's at it 19:19 Go for it, Charlie~ 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:43993 19:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Cha) had a wooden axe entrusted to her by Mars, on T:2607 19:22 Neko-chan: Slightly surprised your health's so (relatively) low 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Con Orc Fem Cha), 43 points, T:144, killed by a jackal 19:23 But then I don't remember knight growth patterns so I forget if their Pw just gets that high 19:23 Not sure what I could do about that yet, just how the dice worked out 19:23 I am very good at forgetting I am not playing a wizard and constantly making edge choices in the favor of that play style 19:23 I mean you can always nurse dance and what not 19:23 There's plenty of ways 19:24 yeah, 'yet' I do not have geno id'd and I don't want to waste a wish 19:24 You don't have to, just a Thing You Can Do 19:24 it's also not an issue right now, I have a trillion ac and a lance 19:24 ^ 19:24 I wanna try actually jousting Demo to death sometime 19:26 man 19:26 there is a dust vortex to the right of me 19:26 and there is my pet to the south of me 19:26 also am I weird for not wanting pets to kill any peaceful priests if I can help it 19:26 pet stands in doorway 19:26 it doesn't attack the dust vortex 19:26 so i just get constantly engulfed and blinded 19:27 :c 19:27 can't go south because my pet is in the way 19:27 cant go left because there's the dust vortex 19:27 cannot E becasue i am blind 19:27 idk how i can tell my pet to attack the dust vortex 19:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a chameleon imitating an orange dragon), on T:2932 19:28 pet is level 9 19:28 <@Tone> stenno: Do you have skilled healing spells yet? 19:28 dust vortex is level 5 19:28 hm i should 19:28 nope... 19:28 <@Tone> would cure blindness 19:28 Hi Tone! 19:28 right 19:28 I finally ascended! 19:28 <@Tone> Heya Umbire 19:28 <@Tone> nice, congrats! 19:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:30225 19:29 im not sure if i congratulated you yet, so congrats from me also 19:29 finally 19:29 that took forever 19:29 not sure why my pet didn't attack 19:29 Thank ya both 19:30 Ooh, crowned Neko 19:30 ogre king seems like a decent pet 19:30 imma try to get that one 19:31 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2561/source 19:31 Umbire, congrats 19:31 Thank 19:31 nice Umbire congrats \o/ 19:32 stenno: I've not tried to keep ogres as pets 19:32 what's the appeal for you besides being pacifist? 19:32 its strong 19:32 its the strongest one around 19:32 it hits things which reduces their hp to zero or less 19:32 powerful strategy 19:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 gauntlets of power", on T:87 19:34 K2: I thought helm of speed was metal, but wishing for mithril just got me a normal one. Or is mithril its "normal"? 19:34 steel 19:34 wow sub t100 wish?? 19:34 thats its base material 19:34 <@nabru> yep, fountain drinking 19:34 oh damn base MR 60 19:34 oh nice 19:34 mithril should work... 19:34 <@nabru> I'm playing this xnh game as polyinit, so it won't score 19:34 to thw wizmodemobile 19:34 <@nabru> playing as a genetic engineer, just for kicks 19:34 Did not (unless it isn't fully ID'd I guess?) 19:35 I feel stupid because I had a +2 helm of speed and wished up an identical one 19:35 hrm nope mithril isnt a valid option 19:35 adding to the to-do 19:35 Well then poop. I guess it is par for the course for a game I lose Dragonbane in 19:35 oh damn i got stunned somehow 19:35 ok i will die then 19:35 Don't go towards the light! 19:35 Especially not the black one! 19:36 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 19:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 790 points, T:6016, killed by an ogre king, while sleeping 19:36 Oh right, is polyinit also possible in vanilla? 19:36 oooh i think i know why 19:36 helm vs helmet 19:36 Heh 19:36 zapped in a random direction as i was stunned, unfortunately it did go in the direction i aimed at (didnt know that was possible while stunned) 19:36 <@nabru> Umbire, nope afaik 19:37 baw 19:37 <@nabru> I think it's a xnh-only feature... maybe other variants have it 19:37 Shoulda wished for a bassinet 19:37 I know there was a reddit post about some shenanigans involving a tourist shade in vanilla 19:37 oh i guess it was 1/8 chance 19:37 wow cant wish up iron helm of speed either 19:38 so far just its base material (steel) and bone 19:38 stupid gnomish wizard 19:39 nabru: nethack4 and probably its variants have polyinit 19:40 Helms of speed should be able to be dragonhide 19:40 Because REASONS 19:40 ah i see why 19:40 found it 19:41 BTW, can you do robe of property, or is a robe considered magic? 19:41 robes are magical 19:41 helm of speed is one of the possible sokoban prizes. i added a bit in mkobj.c to make sure the helm would never spawn as iron/mithril/silver (because certain playable races have an aversion to those materials) 19:42 normally when I guarantee specific items I make them default material 19:42 therefore no wishing up an iron/mithril/silver helm of speed 19:42 Yeah, that'd suck 19:42 its base material is steel already 19:43 and this is affecting more than just the helm of speed 19:44 alrighty, i got this 19:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1228 19:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Banneret, on T:46888 19:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 18020 points, T:4594, killed by an orc-captain called Othogul, while praying 19:51 <@nabru> !lastgame microlance 19:51 @nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1608681642.evil.html 19:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hum Fem Cha), 16 points, T:89, killed by a kobold 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 335 points, T:1024, killed by a hobbit 19:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67485 19:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67487 19:58 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:59 Question for everyone while they're here 19:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:59 What would you consider to be within spoiler territory for the average person who's never played NetHack before? 20:00 * Umbire is trying to sort out where the spoiler threshold should be on the ATT page 20:00 Basically anything that isn't in the guidebook 20:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:67857 20:02 See, I thought the guidebook was a good place to start in determining that. 20:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] every1 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6562 20:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:3030 20:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:3037 20:05 You get a bad feeling about this. 20:05 well. 20:05 forbidden literature 20:07 i was tempted to wish for magic whistle instead of archon figurine 20:07 pretty sure that wouldv'e been better 20:07 [hdf-au] [nh4] Sam (PeachMuffin) (Sam Hum Fem Law), 31021 points, T:1537, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a spellbook 20:07 well obviously because i got a hostile archon from the figurine 20:07 but also maybe in general 20:09 sigh 20:09 last attempt i think 20:09 unless i get pw:4 20:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 2884 points, T:3600, killed by a giant bat 20:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:68246 20:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:68247 20:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:40235 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] charlie14690 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:63819 20:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:48015 20:18 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5327 20:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Inf Ith Fem Una), 272 points, T:508, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse 20:24 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:24 Oh right, Lady is the XL30 rank title for valks 20:25 Probably a good thing I death wanded that one when I did 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) genocided master liches, on T:40720 20:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "wand of death", on T:69438 20:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1910 20:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 665 points, T:1937, killed by a hobgoblin 20:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:69442 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Con Orc Fem Cha), 17 points, T:349, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 20:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a knife on an altar, on T:5269 20:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a long sword entrusted to her by Set, on T:5285 20:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 8851 points, T:6182, killed by a dwarf lady 20:39 aosdict, my wife just shared with me the secret to making crispy kale in a pan (range top) 20:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 223 points, T:1638, killed by a werejackal 20:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 43 points, T:287, killed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food 20:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by a sewer rat 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:41283 20:44 The Eyes of the Overworld are sooooo bad 20:45 Can't believe they cancel telepathy 20:45 well they are better than telepathy 20:45 sometimes. 20:45 I mean, they cancel telepathy because you can see 20:45 and not extrinsic telepathy I think 20:45 Except when there are hordes of horrible monsters behind the walls right next to you 20:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:71046 20:46 Which are invisible using the Eyes but clearly displayed via telepathy when you take them off 20:47 huh 20:47 vanilla? 20:47 which monsters? 20:47 K2: the secret is using a range top? I don't follow 20:47 Hopefully if they're behind the walls, they can't reach you. 20:48 or you're just being coy with it 20:48 no thats not the secret 20:48 i was waiting for you to respond 20:48 which kind of monsters can be seen by telepathy but not by astral vision? 20:48 monsters that are too far away 20:48 the secret is, you let the kale sit out on the counter for a couple days and let it wilt 20:48 2-3 days 20:49 oh, ok 20:49 The problem is that you can't use a blindfold or blind yourself any other way while wearing the Eyes, and they only provide magic resistance when worn. And they're a quest artifact so the Wizard can steal them. 20:49 if you place is already humid (70% or more) dont bother 20:49 I was on Baalzebub's stairs -- you know, surrounded by walls -- with all sorts of horrible 4/5 difficulty stuff outside. Visible with telepathy without Eyes, poof nothing wearing Eyes 20:49 i see extrinsic telepathy has a radius of 8 20:49 man imagine astral vision with that radius 20:49 would be epic 20:49 humidity not a problem in the winter 20:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hum Mal Cha), 777 points, T:1838, killed by a bolt of fire 20:50 coat bottom of pan with a thin layer of extra virgin olive oil, place kale in pan, low heat until desired crispiness level is reach 20:51 keep the big stems out, they retain too much moisture 20:51 we like to spinkle on a bit of salt and garlic powder 20:51 black pepper sounds good too... 20:51 hmm well thanks I'll try it 20:51 o/ 20:52 you cooks 20:52 i am envious of your dilligence 20:52 my wife is a master chef in this family 20:52 I made kale crisps in the oven a couple times but you had to eat them in like 20 minutes or they'd get limp again 20:52 s/a/the 20:52 she cooks, i clean 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:26 20:54 i can smoke up a great batch of ribs or chicken breast tho 20:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hlf Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:38293 20:56 I started a game in debug mode in a 3x3 room with parentheses surrounding my char 20:56 (@) 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Con Orc Fem Cha), 186 points, T:646, killed by Mr. Maesteg; the shopkeeper 20:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:71338 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1219 20:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1057 points, T:1657, quit 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Con Orc Fem Cha), 93 points, T:473, dragged downstairs by an iron ball 21:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:71398 21:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1998 21:02 angry lamp djinni are the WORST 21:04 angry figurine archons are worse 21:04 the result might be the same though depending on your level 21:05 angry lamp djinni are much more common 21:05 not a ton of people wish for archons 21:06 so? 21:06 doesn't change the quality 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Con Orc Fem Cha), 35 points, T:254, killed by a sewer rat 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4157 21:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:71431 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:5916 21:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hlf Mal Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:39367 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:7780 21:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) averted death (killed by a priestess of Lugh), on T:71474 21:16 -!- qt has quit [Quit: good night] 21:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) averted death (killed by a priest of Moloch), on T:71489 21:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1322 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:11015 21:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine (5 times), on T:71500 21:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:3177 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] ToneRobin (Val Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:2754 21:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] lacca (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2818178 points, T:71539, ascended 21:24 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/nethack/dumplog/1608327048.nh.html 21:25 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/791129328972857344/unknown.png 21:27 GG lacca! 21:28 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:12964 21:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a black naga, on T:5081 21:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:3175 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:13737 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:13867 21:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5348 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "holy ring of conflict", on T:14731 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:14743 21:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5651 21:40 [hdf-us] [un] lunatunez (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:17044 21:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4511 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:16283 21:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] hearsegirl (Val Swn Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2434 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:16529 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:16937 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16938 21:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:5244 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:16954 21:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a mithril saber entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6357 21:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 24803 points, T:6382, killed by a mumak 21:47 Mumakil > Giants 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:17109 21:48 Mumakil > baluchitheria 21:49 [hdf-us] [un] lunatunez (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 41460 points, T:17551, killed by a deep orc, while fainted from lack of food 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbrad (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class t), on T:15706 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbrad (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:15707 21:49 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 21:50 Grey as a mouse, big as a house, nose like a snake, I make the earth shake! 21:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed for the first time, on T:5525 21:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:5525 21:50 enough for no 21:50 w 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:17460 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:17463 21:51 pat rankin said something wrong on reddit 21:53 i guess i should watch spontiff ttyrecs 21:53 i must be doing something wrong 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbrad (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:15984 21:56 stenno: idgi 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:18150 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:18151 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:18196 21:58 Umbire: what? 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:18316 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:18320 21:58 like, what do you not get 21:59 the patr comment was unrelated to the comments following 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:18921 22:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:1559 22:04 Yeah that's what tripped me up 22:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 906 points, T:1645, killed by a dwarf 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 74 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:19080 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 24 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:19143 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:20107 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:20108 22:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:20276 22:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had a leather apron entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:1598 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:20300 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:20371 22:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 852 points, T:3901, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "holy opposite alignment helm", on T:20387 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:20390 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dalles (Wiz Elf Fem Law), 434975 points, T:20391, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dalles/nethack/dumplog/1608688470.nh.html 22:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] hearsegirl (Val Swn Fem Law), 21134 points, T:7923, killed by a Mordor orc, while sleeping off a magical draught 22:17 GG dalles! 22:17 Just over 20k turns, nice 22:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 529 points, T:1346, zombified by a gnome zombie 22:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Wiz Inc Mal Cha), 309520 points, T:24103, killed by a golden naga of Thoth 22:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gia Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:3766 22:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 4866 points, T:3801, killed by an invisible vampire king in bat form, while sleeping 22:40 Umbire: did you ascend yet? 22:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Gia Fem Law), 452 points, T:1608, killed by Yeenoghu, while paralyzed by a monster 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:42887 22:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 4 points, T:49, killed by a jackal 22:43 Yahuh! 22:43 I was just sharing a pre-ascension pic with one of my friends 22:43 Shared a bunch of screenshots after the fact 22:43 gratz 22:43 Grazie 22:44 sorry I missed it. I was busy counting all my magic markers ;) 22:44 lmfao 22:45 YASI: The Black Marker of Bouquet, an artifact magic marker that has lower charge capacity but can be reused an infinite amount of times 22:46 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790867724912951306/Screenshot_20201222-040513.png 22:46 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790867752214069268/Screenshot_20201222-040522.png 22:46 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/790867768437506089/Screenshot_20201222-040535.png 22:46 https://i.imgur.com/61kfBy2.png 22:47 lucky you 22:47 I only had four 22:48 my extinctionist run yields a lot of unicorn horns which poly into MMs nicely. 22:48 <@luxidream> "only" 4 markers 22:48 <@luxidream> also gz 22:49 thanks Luxi 22:49 <{Demo}> I could never ascend on mobile 22:49 I literally got two more from RNG 22:49 <{Demo}> I'd blow my brains out 22:49 first was... I think my wizard bones? 22:49 <@luxidream> i got one ascension on mobile 22:49 <@luxidream> it was on a long trip of some kind 22:50 <@luxidream> it's really not fun though 22:51 mobile, as in terminal on a smart phone? Or on a nethack port like Gurr's? 22:51 Latter for me 22:52 there's a BUNCH of terminal apps though 22:52 <@luxidream> gurr port 22:52 haven't really tried one specifically to play NetHack with though 22:52 <@luxidream> inethack2 is the worst though, it's 3.4.3 22:52 <@luxidream> and randomly eats your save 22:53 Gurr's port is reeeeealy nice, though. For playing on a smart phone there's good UX. 22:54 my 8yo is getting pretty good at it on mobile. 22:55 bouquet raising a speedrunner 22:55 wait 22:55 who _is_ dalles 22:55 @luxidream is that you? 22:55 a town in Orgeon. 22:55 <@luxidream> me 22:55 ah ok 22:55 1h20m 22:57 oh nice 22:57 <@luxidream> yeah still not good 22:57 <@luxidream> at least I won though :3 22:58 well its really, really good, but its also not good enough 22:58 <{Demo}> plz break the 1 hr barrier 22:58 you are the only player apart from adeon who can consistenly ascend sub-2h 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] TheOrangeLumppus (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8926 22:59 <@luxidream> demo: I'm trying but I think I need a wow 22:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:59 <@luxidream> if I can beat quest by 30 min I think it's doable 22:59 <@luxidream> I don't know how possible that is without a wow 22:59 you have sub-1h explore mode right? 22:59 <@luxidream> yeah 00:57 22:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:00 <{Demo}> what sucks is how all speed running eventually devolves into rng bruteforce 23:00 its a bit silly that now you just have to scum until you get it 23:00 yeah 23:00 <{Demo}> that's why I like TAS 23:00 <@luxidream> well there is also the human element 23:00 <@luxidream> i will get nervous and make mistakes 23:00 <{Demo}> at some point the human element becomes close enough to perfect 23:00 sure but you need like 1/200k odds rng to begin with 23:01 <{Demo}> and it just turns into brute force the rng and hope the human element doesn't fuck up 23:01 <@luxidream> odds for wow are that bad? 23:01 <@luxidream> I just need it sometime between dl 1 and minetown 23:01 err in the starting room i think 23:02 gotta ask aoei when she's online 23:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02 <@luxidream> unlike gametime speedrunning it doesn't really matter when I find it, as long as it's not in hell 23:03 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:03 are you dfv after mines? 23:03 <@luxidream> yeah I stop by soko 23:03 <@luxidream> but besides that 23:04 maybe we can approximate a little bit 23:04 <@luxidream> it's annoying to have to deal with the ravens and snakes medusa because sometimes you can't dig w/out earth 23:05 actually too tired 23:05 yeah 23:05 <@luxidream> oh were you calculating item generation? 23:05 <@luxidream> probably too complicated with all the shops 23:05 i was starting but quickly aborted 23:06 do you use ?oEarth for castle moat too? 23:06 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 23:06 <@luxidream> that's not necessary, there's usually a boulder you can use in the maze 23:06 Ye 23:06 <@luxidream> but that's a last resort, usually you can play the passtune 23:07 ah elf wiz 23:07 so startscumming for tonal 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:30669 23:08 what rings do you want to have for castle? probably conflict and regen? 23:08 conflict + levi for backdoor 23:09 <@luxidream> conflict and probably a polykit 23:09 hm backdoor takes too long probably 23:09 <@luxidream> backdoor is not very effective since they no longer jump into the holes 23:09 right 23:09 i learned that the hard way a week ago or so 23:09 <@luxidream> and you have to push through all the sharks 23:09 <@luxidream> which may not be possible 23:10 <@luxidream> strangely, the last few times I visited castle in 3.7 there have been no liches 23:10 none at all? 23:10 <@luxidream> castle.lua wasn't changed so I'm thinking it was a bug 23:10 <@luxidream> but I'm not sure what could have caused it 23:10 purple L are not a thing in 3.7 at least 23:10 purple L at castle 23:11 <@luxidream> right, this started happening very recently 23:11 <@luxidream> no brown or red L either 23:11 well the L pool got halved i guess 23:11 actually not sure if it works like that 23:12 but i think it does 23:12 <@luxidream> I thought there was guaranteed L 23:12 nope 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Cen Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:44035 23:12 <@luxidream> how does castle generation work 23:12 in the des file there is a list of uppercase letters 23:12 thoser are all the possible monsters that can spawn in the throne room 23:13 <@luxidream> ohh 23:13 <@luxidream> how bizarre 23:13 <@luxidream> so I've just been lucky then I guuess 23:14 and then it either collects all monsters with those letters in a list and selects a random-ish one (weighted by generation frequency) (which i think is how it works) or picks a random letter and then selects from the possible monsters 23:14 yeah must be like that 23:15 its the infamous mkclass code 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:65375 23:18 luxidream hmm actually 23:19 oh wait lua arrays start with 1, never mind 23:20 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:20 @luxidream lua file indeed implies that 2-3 L are guaranteed at castle 23:20 now it depends on how the mkclass fix was made 23:20 <@luxidream> i didn't realize there was an mkclass change recently 23:20 if purple L just wont generate but still take up a slot 23:22 mkclass respects hell-only flags in 3.7 23:24 <@luxidream> I've seen liches since that change...? 23:24 <@luxidream> it was all the way back in may 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:31532 23:29 just looking at mkclass under which circumstances there will be no L generated 23:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7148 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:32314 23:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by Yeenoghu), on T:7883 23:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 14718 points, T:7888, petrified by losing gloves while wielding a cockatrice corpse 23:40 uuh 23:41 i think there is a bug in mkclass 23:41 hm no 23:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Orc Mal Cha), 39 points, T:44, killed by a jackal 23:42 well there has to be a bug somewhere 23:42 because castle.lua states that there will be 2-3 L guaranteed indeed 23:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2855 23:43 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 277 points, T:715, killed by a water demon 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:33147 23:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1010 points, T:3371, killed by a dwarf zombie 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3802 23:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 705 points, T:1617, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted rothe 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:33482 23:54 were they genocided? 23:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 37 points, T:239, killed by a sewer rat 23:55 whonawhatnow 23:57 <@luxidream> No I don’t think so 23:57 <@luxidream> Let me double check 23:59 <@luxidream> If jettyplay would quit running out of memory that would be nice 23:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Hum Fem Una), 776 points, T:1142, killed by a small mimic 23:59 That your tty player?