00:02 F 00:02 Can always get another at least 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:15113 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1014 points, T:1939, killed by a giant spider 00:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 424 points, T:1801, killed by a rabid rat 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 735 points, T:2236, killed by a gas spore's explosion 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:17016 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 474 points, T:430, killed by a potion of acid 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:27478 00:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Fem Neu) averted death (killed by invisible Mr. Lahinch; the shopkeeper), on T:5473 00:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:8430 00:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 17632 points, T:5509, killed by invisible Mr. Lahinch; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:6604 00:49 should I wish for a fancy steed or dsm? 00:50 ugh I really am just going to end up with a peacful ki-rin that way 00:51 In a cloud of smoke, a djinni emerges! The djinni speaks. "It is about time!" The djinni vanishes. 00:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 2329 points, T:2119, killed by a dwarf lord, while fainted from lack of food 00:51 gnite all 00:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 636 points, T:1186, killed by a giant bat 01:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:9527 01:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 166 points, T:622, killed by a small mimic 01:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:689 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:10081 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8597 01:13 there should be a wand of stone to flesh 01:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1764 points, T:2950, killed by a blue jelly 01:26 Neko-chan: I feel like that exists in at least one variant 01:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1460 points, T:2294, killed by a water demon 01:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:4541 01:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:4832 01:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:5617 01:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:6117 01:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6315 01:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:6463 01:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2877 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12534 01:56 !lastgame Alex 01:56 Tangles: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Alex/nethack/dumplog/1608088681.nh.html 01:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 9654 points, T:4373, killed by a giant mosquito 02:03 Hi Tangles 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an ice vortex, on T:3548 02:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2644 points, T:3562, killed by a panther 02:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7333 points, T:8801, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 02:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Bar Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1660 02:15 Hi Umbire 02:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Hum Fem Una) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:1418 02:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Hum Fem Una), 3382 points, T:2936, killed by a wolf 02:35 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 02:39 lmfao literally only one actual gem in the castle 02:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 258 points, T:961, killed by a hobbit 02:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 63 points, T:485, killed by a sewer rat 02:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Bar Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:2115 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Knight, on T:14259 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 340 points, T:912, killed by a giant bat 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful brown mold, on T:14269 02:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Sam Gia Fem Law), 4427 points, T:4535, zapped herself with a wand 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an Olog-hai, on T:14713 02:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 1049 points, T:1260, killed by a crossbow bolt 02:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1066 points, T:804, killed by a dwarf 02:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3586 03:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1154 points, T:4252, killed by a dwarf 03:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 1270 points, T:1475, killed by a dwarf king 03:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:1951 03:11 Oh, crappy microlance! If you make an early-game bones, please do me a favour and don't put your psuedodragon right on the upstairs! Now I can't even excape! :D 03:11 Do pseudodragons have MR? I'm wondering if there's a chance I could cast sleep at it. 03:12 * arahael has 5 hp, because he got attacked the instant he went down 03:12 Oh, wait, I have a scroll of teleport. 03:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:16288 03:13 * bug_sniper gives arahael a scroll of genocide 03:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 130 points, T:550, killed by a goblin 03:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful warhorse, on T:16379 03:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1024 points, T:3919, killed by a dwarf 03:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 77 points, T:272, killed by a fox 03:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered Katje, his faithful kitten, on T:8 03:20 Hi arahael 03:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:241, killed by a kobold 03:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:10540 03:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 150 points, T:601, killed by a small mimic 03:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:26 Umbire: Hey. :) 03:26 How's it going. 03:27 Good, except I'm taking a bite of dinner while I step back from the current predicament. :) Yourself? 03:27 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:28 This is a double-bones. I think I'll chance a telo. 03:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 19 points, T:77, killed by a water moccasin 03:30 Yeah, this is going to be a triple-bones. 03:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:31 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 03:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 03:33 Amazingly, I survived this - trick was to be *very* slow and *very* careful which monster you hit in turn. Was completely surrounded, with AC:4 and Xp:2 03:33 Though there were walls and water, so I had at most 4 monsters next to me. 03:36 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:36 I'm mostly just mucking around VotD with my loaded ass Tourist 03:36 Just managed to avoid diluting/blanking anything with a spill into the wayer 03:37 water* 03:37 fucking fatfingers all over the place 03:38 Nice. :) 03:38 On the phone? 03:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:11100 03:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11101 03:41 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:43 Yep, triple-bones now. :( 03:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 711 points, T:744, killed by an ancient pseudodragon 03:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:11150 03:45 -!- luxidream2 has joined #hardfought 03:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3502 03:47 What's "fifth lemure on the left" a reference to? 03:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3826 03:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2326 points, T:3887, killed by a gnomish wizard 03:50 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 03:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:20, killed by contaminated water 03:50 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 03:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:11586 03:55 * arahael should've used bug_sniper's geno scroll. 03:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 569 points, T:1046, killed by a magic missile 03:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a little dog corpse on an altar of The Lady, on T:3432 04:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:3832 04:04 <@microlance> and fire brand in a minetown shop, i cant wait to die. 04:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1540 points, T:1820, killed by a killer bee 04:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 1946 points, T:1678, killed by a gnome lord, while unconscious from rotten food 04:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3674 04:12 any good stuff in minetown tinklebear? 04:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:12990 04:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 309 points, T:1448, killed by a giant rat 04:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Neu), 340 points, T:282, killed by a crossbow bolt 04:14 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 70 points, T:132, killed by contaminated water 04:18 <@microlance> and now my unwanted djinni slave stole my fire brand 😦 04:18 <@microlance> its lost forever now 04:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3994 04:20 microlance: :( 04:25 <@microlance> probably, because i cant kill the djinni and i cant be bothered to be babysitting him. ah well should just leave him in minetown and kill him later 04:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:2421 04:27 !who 04:27 luxidream2: [hdf-us] tinklebear [nh370] Karnac [nh370] | [hdf-eu] microlance [evil] mobileuser [evil] p0werm0de [nh370] elenmirie [nh370] joes [nh370] | [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] PeachMuffin [spl] 04:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:12720 04:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:12723 04:28 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 04:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Hob Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:36928 04:32 -!- luxidream2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3977 04:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1910 points, T:4812, killed by a bolt of lightning 04:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:6809 04:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7081 04:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:2072 04:46 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:48 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 04:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3143 04:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1172 points, T:2052, killed by a bolt of cold 04:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3684 04:56 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 04:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 168 points, T:479, killed by a gnome lord 04:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2146 points, T:3859, killed by a killer bee 04:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 173 points, T:501, killed by a goblin 04:59 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 05:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 72 points, T:115, killed by contaminated water 05:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 3446 points, T:1697, drowned in a moat, while helpless 05:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 298 points, T:1384, killed by a giant bat 05:09 Instadeathed. :( 05:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13452 05:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 432 points, T:1210, killed by a djinni 05:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1349 05:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1508 05:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 517 points, T:764, killed by a jellyfish 05:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13605 05:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 748 points, T:1906, killed by a land mine 05:28 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3076 points, T:2606, killed by a hill orc 05:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 463 points, T:1421, killed by a giant bat 05:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 315 points, T:538, killed by a gnome lord 05:35 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:35 -!- luxidream3 has joined #hardfought 05:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3437 05:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9194 05:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:14573 05:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:14575 05:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 grayswandir", on T:3793 05:51 [hdf-eu] [slex] AmyBSOD (Top Hrl Fem Law), 223 points, T:385, killed by an arrow 05:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3981 05:53 dammit invisible again and now the magic trap is gone 05:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:55856 05:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5249 05:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:55868 06:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6261 06:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:27874 06:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6191 06:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:6191 06:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:6326 06:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu) stole 820 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kabalebo's general store, on T:10681 06:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5558 points, T:6651, killed by a giant beetle 06:10 <@p0werm0de> !lastgame p0werm0de 06:10 @p0werm0de: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/p0werm0de/nethack/dumplog/1608114729.nh.html 06:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:46, killed by a bear trap 06:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed the adventuring wizard, on T:29115 06:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed the half-elf ranger, on T:29137 06:16 p0werm0de: maybe wish for dsm instead of grayswandir 06:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed the militant cleric, on T:29189 06:19 [hdf-eu] [slex] AmyBSOD (Top Hrl Fem Law), 2266 points, T:2670, killed by a hidden bomb 06:21 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:21 Amy have you tried eth monk yet? can't remember 06:21 nah I didn't 06:22 eth is for players who like to torture themselves :P 06:22 or ico monk rather 06:22 also, playing without weapons and armor isn't really my cup of tea, especially considering how many new ones I added in 2.68 06:23 ico barb might be really great, if you can get crowned 06:23 if crowning even exists in slex lol 06:23 huh what would be so great about crowning? and yeah of course it exists 06:24 to get intrinsics - you can't eat as ico 06:24 as ico you can if you polymorph, IIRC... or did I make that impossible too? 06:25 eth can poly, ico can't 06:25 oh right, mixed it up 06:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed the Rebel Ringleader, on T:29322 06:26 I thought ico jedi was going to be epic but the darkness attack really ruins it lol 06:26 does the artifact lightsaber always remain lit in darkness? 06:26 uhh no 06:27 maybe it'd still be epic if tha- 06:27 ah nvm 06:27 lol 06:27 but I guess you gave me an idea :) thanks! 06:27 in case it's not obvious, the idea is "next version will have an artifact lightsaber that remains lit in darkness" 06:29 ike a different one to the prototype? 06:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:29339 06:29 yeah, one that you'd need to either randomly find or wish for (the prototype is already OP enough, since it never runs out of power) 06:31 hmm what sort of name should it have 06:31 brightsaber 06:31 delightsaber 06:31 hmm no that one sounds like it disables lights in some way 06:32 you know what? because I like you so much, I'll add two :D Brightsaber will be the good one and Delightsaber will have the "de-light" nastytrap effect tacked on but also higher damage bonus 06:32 lol 06:33 what does that nastytrap do? 06:33 more lightsaber artifacts also means higher chance to get lightsaber unrestricted via god gifts ;) 06:33 means that tiles you walk over automatically become unlit if they were lit before 06:33 also I thought jedis were meant to be able to throw lightsabers and have it return to them 06:33 but I couldn't do that with skilled as ico 06:34 maybe I did something wrong 06:34 well yeah they can do that, but it's only a certain % chance, which increases with djem so skill 06:34 the lightsaber has to be worn and lit, and then you have to throw it with the 't' command 06:34 err, wielded, not worn :P 06:34 ah I didn't train the lightsaber forms, I thought it was just the regular skill 06:35 right now I'm playing an astronaut wielding an electric cigarette, which also counts as a lightsaber... but I don't have the base skill (orb) for that, just lightsaber forms 06:35 as expected, it's not very effective 06:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) was given the Rod of Lordly Might, on T:30098 06:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:30229 06:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) was given the Shield of the All-Seeing, on T:30328 06:45 do astronauts start in the space base? 06:45 yeah 06:46 could the entrance to the space base be at like dlvl 49 or whatever? 06:46 yep, in my current run the first space base level is 40 06:46 yikes 06:46 as long as you never leave the space base branch, the first level counts as depth 1, because otherwise it would be unplayable lol 06:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) was given Plague, on T:30428 06:47 i.e. now that I'm on Spa:43 as XL6, the effective monster difficulty is 5 because Spa:43 is the fourth space base level in this run 06:48 however, as soon as you leave the space base, the monster difficulty starts using the actual depth, even if you then go back in (leaving becomes possible as soon as the sewer plant is finished) 06:49 oh so you can't use it as a quick way of rushing the castle 06:49 uhh how would you do that anyway, go back out of the space base immediately and then dig for victory? 06:49 yeah :P 06:49 start as arc or something 06:49 but yeah you can't do that, you have to make it all the way to the bottom of the sewer plant; levelporting or other shenanigans are disabled until then 06:49 yeah 06:50 the space base is fun at least 06:50 and the reward is good 06:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) recieved the helm of the Dark Lord, on T:30503 06:50 can't say that about the deep mines :P 06:50 heh, but the deep mines is full of weapon-using monsters so if you need a new weapon, you'll probably find one there 06:51 I think all my middle game deaths were in the deep mines, with one in illusory castle 06:51 wow you spelunked your way into the illusory castle? that's ballsy 06:51 then when I found out what the reward was for the deep mines I've resolved to never go there again 06:51 lol 06:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:58333 06:53 The gazer homunculus gazes directly at you! The gazer homunculus' gaze is reflected by your armor. The gazer homunculus is immune to sleep! 06:56 -!- luxidream3 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:58 nice 06:58 what shiny armour do you have? the shiny suit from zapm? 06:58 heh, yeah the jumpsuit 06:59 astronauts start with that, and also flying boots and a helm of contamination resist 06:59 what intrinsics do astronauts get? 07:00 sounds like a fun one to try if they get some decent ones at level up 07:00 XL1 swimming, XL4 speed, XL8 technicality, XL10 resist fire, XL14 resist sleep, XL15 tele control, XL18 full nutrients, XL19 use the force, XL20 resist shock and fear, XL24 resist disintegration, XL25 resist sickness, XL28 magical breathing and flying, XL30 resist cold 07:01 i.e. they're obviously a lategame powerhouse :D 07:01 xlvl 30 resist cold lol 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:58571 07:01 they also get over a dozen techniques from leveling 07:02 what does technicality, use the force, and full nutrients do? 07:02 You're covered in acid, but it seems harmless. 07:02 (dragonbane rocks) 07:03 technicality means the effective level of your techniques is higher, so they're stronger and time out faster; use the force means the #force command deals more damage to monsters; full nutrients means nutrition is used up at half the normal rate, including when e.g. casting a spell 07:04 <@microlance> i wonder if wishing for vorpal blade and then crowning chaotic on my tourist is really the great move i imagine it to be 07:07 <@microlance> would require som luck, getting an angry vorpal blade owner cant be fun 07:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:15961 07:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16118 07:11 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:58733 07:16 it is 1 degree outside 07:16 1 07:16 ONE 07:17 :o 07:17 we had that last week K2 07:17 wait do you mean freedom degrees 07:17 because then thats CRAZY COLD 07:18 we just had like, 1 in modern first-world degrees 07:18 yeah, about 3 here. 07:18 which is like maybe 35 of your freedom degrees 07:18 50 F here 07:18 in the modern scientific degrees 07:18 yeah here it's relatively warm it's actually 7 modern science degrees 07:18 heh you're all ignoramuses, bring back the good old kelvin scale :P 07:19 it's about -2 in non freedom degrees here 07:19 it never left Amy 07:19 yeah but it's never being used 07:19 yes it is 07:19 but only in physics and chemistry literature 07:19 because that's where it's imiportant :P 07:20 sometimes I jokingly say stuff to my roommate like "these ice cubes have a temperature of about 200 K" :D 07:20 monster generation going to 3x is definitely noticeable 07:20 LarienTelrunya: they shouldn't 07:20 ice cubes should be typically quite close to 273 K 07:20 aoei: and of course, the most important use case, in Beholder's !booze and !coffee commands 07:20 idk hoiw you got your ice cubes THAT cold 07:20 aosdict: oh yeah 07:20 but that goes without saying ofc 07:20 LarienTelrunya: do you and your room mate use dry ice for things? 07:21 i think those will get you down to 200 K or so 07:21 roughly 07:21 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:21 uhh no, it was just a theoretical example, don't remember the actual temperature 07:21 ah 07:21 fair enough 07:21 but I do sometimes use the kelvin scale and then she goes "uhh I have no idea how much that is in celsius" :D 07:21 * aoei is a chemist and will never forget 298 K = 25 C, 0 C = 273 K 07:22 i think its pretty ingrained in the minds of anyone who studied physics or chem 07:22 -40 C = -40 F 07:22 K2: heh 07:22 but what's 1 F in C 07:22 cold 07:22 XD 07:22 <@microlance> 1 degree fahreinheit is -17 c 07:22 yeah that's pretty fucking cold lol 07:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:32270 07:23 256 K 07:23 <@microlance> its typical for january and february here, but so far its still the regular 0c 07:23 this winter has been warm overall so far 07:23 we should have hit single digits awhile ago 07:23 and where's the snow gdammit 07:23 kelvin scales i really easy because it's a straight addition/subtraction converting to/from celsius 07:24 <@microlance> and celsius makes real life sense 07:24 C <-> F is more complicated 07:24 yeah because water is hugely important for things 07:24 Kelvin just gave us a simple way to convert that to a scale that goes to absolute zero 07:25 Fahrenheit makes no sense for anything lol 07:25 or if it does i have no clue what 07:25 aoei: What makes no sense whatsoever, is that 0 Kelvin is "hot". 07:25 Or "Absolute zero" is "hot". 07:25 it is?? 07:25 <@microlance> grayswandir wish for my evilhack tourist or frost brand which would get me the double brand? im doubtful it can compete with grayswandir and vorpal blade tho 07:25 Yeah, absolute zero is very hot. 07:25 0 Kelvin is also impossible tho arahael 07:26 Regardless. :) 07:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1314 07:26 people start measuring stuff as 1x10^-x K 07:26 and give the x 07:26 which is essentially a logarithmic measure of how close you managed to get to absolute 0 07:27 pressure is done similarly in vacuum chambers 07:27 and you often need a high vacuum to get down to a super low temp too 07:27 because stuff is warm 07:27 and if you have less stuff its easier to cool the few remaining molecules 07:28 and you start getting crazy stuff like using lasers to cool individual atoms/ions 07:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 frost brand", on T:14365 07:28 the light pushes them back against the direction they're moving until they're super still 07:28 and then you end up with atoms or ions in a vacuum at 10x-9 K or some shit 07:29 ok im done infodumping about weird shit i learned about from physicists at DESY i think 07:29 (u gotta admit its pretty cool tho right) 07:30 Oh, apparently, there is a such thing as "absolute hot", too. 07:30 wot 07:30 The other extreme to absolute zero. :) 07:30 i don't believe you 07:30 <@microlance> fack, my djinni with the fire brand has gone wild. and i thought he would be perfect for this job. 07:30 fake news 07:30 Wikipedia seems to suggest it's about 1.416785(71)×1032 kelvin but it's not clear. 07:30 pics or it didnt happen 07:30 huh 07:30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_hot 07:30 weird 07:31 Oh, that 'x1032' didn't paste well, that's "times 10 to the 32th power". 07:31 o yea that makes more sense lol 07:32 hey amateurhour didn't you study physics or something 07:33 that's pretty hot. possibly even hotter than Sigourney Weaver 07:33 lmao 07:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu) stole 332 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Tuktoyaktuk's general store, on T:14689 07:34 hotter perhaps even than Shohreh Aghdashloo 07:34 (who has the sexiest voice known to humankind of course) 07:35 The concept of a "sexy voice" is something I'll *never* understand. 07:35 yeah i guess so arahael 07:35 F 07:35 It's like, illogical! 07:35 the english-to-amyish translation of "sexy voice" is "Flügelbüschelstimme" ♥ 07:35 she's lying 07:35 we were also talking about like, inner monologue voices in another channel 07:36 something as a deaf person i guess you can't possibly have 07:36 arahael: just think of a Ferengi 07:36 (inner monologue yes, but no voice i guess) 07:36 Oh, I have a inner monologue voice, I guess. But everybody sounds the same there. 07:36 No such thing as an accent in my world. 07:36 huh, but it does have sound? 07:36 i figured words would have semantics but no soujnd 07:36 Bizarrely... Often not. 07:37 sound* 07:37 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 07:37 But I do think in speech quite often - I was brought up "oral", and the brain does need language. 07:37 arahael: i not only have my own inner monologue voice 07:37 but i can do other people's in my head 07:37 and sometimes my own adopts other people's voices involuntarily 07:37 usually its someone i just spent a few days visiting and talking with a lot 07:37 Yeah, well, there's no difference between voices in my mind. 07:37 right 07:39 Kitchen is "tidier", so I should get ready for bed. 07:39 fair play 07:39 night arahael o/ 07:39 o/ 07:39 why the hell do you "bash" when forcing a chest with a pick-axe, as opposed to "prying" it 07:39 it's not edgy enough to get in the crack 07:39 there's a tapered point 07:39 but no real edge 07:40 so that doesn't really work 07:40 weird 07:40 astronaut could be fun to try in lunch break, what weapons do they typically use? 07:41 they start with none but can learn practically every weapon, currently I alternate between pick-axe and crossbow 07:42 they have the highest cap for hammer, lightsaber and firearms 07:42 amateurhour: did u study physics tho 07:42 or am i muddled 07:43 yes, I quit halfway through a phd 07:43 ahhh yeah that was it 07:43 * aoei remembers now 07:44 so no dr professionalhour for me 07:44 why the quit? horrible prof, bad project, or just got disillusioned with the whole mess? 07:44 aw 07:44 it happens tho :/ 07:44 i know many people who had to quit for various reasons 07:44 some professors are fucking lunatics 07:44 like its scarily common 07:44 downright abusive 07:44 to their staff 07:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:17939 07:51 K2: sorry not sorry for taking the snow 07:53 do they have a first-gift artifact Amy? 07:53 nah 07:53 just wondering how one would get them a good weapon 07:53 well, finding random ones; however, in the upcoming new version I plan to make it easier to start out with a char that lacks a starting weapon 07:54 namely, by making it so that the dungeon level the player spawns on is more likely to generate with random items 07:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:18829 07:54 does that sound like a good idea or will it make the early game too easy for strong roles? 07:55 strong roles already start with what they need so probs doesn't make any difference for them 07:57 yeah that's what I'm thinking too, so roles with crap starting inventory will have a slightly easier time while powerful ones will be powerful either way 07:58 just give everyone a (0:3) wand of wishing :^) 07:58 lol 07:58 that's explore mode 08:01 does the speedrunner get a wow? 08:01 heh 08:02 I could have sworn there's a speedrunner role or race, can't see it in the wiki 08:02 it's planned, but not implemented yet 08:02 oh right 08:04 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 08:06 heh, maybe i should use explore mode to practice minturns strats 08:06 then scum for a 0:3 first room wand when i got the strats down 08:07 where is this bitch woman of a nymph that stole my boots 08:08 hey how do you know she's a bitch woman 08:08 she might be really nice! 08:10 why are there more nymphs spawning constantly on this level 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:18226 08:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:32547 08:12 man this is starting to feel like an attempt to exterminate a nest of pesky insects, except that the "insects" are stealing my items 08:12 but just think of all the potions of object detection you'll have 08:12 that you have to spend 10 million turns diluting :^) 08:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LjN3UclYzU <-- important educational piece 08:13 none of them dropped any potions so far 08:14 weeeee 08:15 The island nymph Plasmon is hit by a ` boulder {9000}! 08:15 Fortunately, the island nymph Plasmon is wearing a hard helmet. 08:15 way to rub it in game, I'd not have shedded any tears if the boulder had killed her 08:16 A nymph wearing a helmet? That isn't canon 08:16 You've broken my suspension of disbelief 08:17 Maybe a shayla or hijab 08:18 lol I can't imagine a nymph wearing that... 08:20 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:22 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7578 points, T:3364, killed by a vampire lord 08:26 is it my cursed cape causing this nastytrap effect Amy? 08:27 oh you're playing an astronaut too? yeah; getting rid of that ASAP is a good idea ;) 08:27 also remember that there is the Ctrl-U command 08:28 'hey astronaut sounds kind of fun and not awful in any way' 08:28 lol 08:28 if you simply walk into every I marker, you waste lots of turns which may be strategically poor 08:28 <@microlance> the giants in the icey snowlands is really destroying me. suppose your not supposed to go with -6 ac before quest. 08:28 what's ctrl+u with the superior keybindings? 08:28 well it removes the I markers :P 08:28 as I said, don't walk into every I marker! you just waste your turns 08:29 I mean what keybinding is it with vikeys 08:29 uhhhhh 08:29 #removeimarkers 08:29 but if you already have to play without removing them, prefix movement with m so that it doesn't waste a turn :P 08:30 also you can do custom keybindings in your rcfile, to set any hotkey you like for that action 08:30 nice, three coaligned altars and two general stores between levels 11-16 08:30 <@microlance> but vikeys are perfect by design no customization even required 08:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:28596 08:32 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:28458 08:33 could removeimarkers get the autocomplete added to it? 08:34 maybe, but for now it would probably be easiest to make a custom keybinding 08:34 can I uncurse the cape in a well? 08:35 nah, wells cannot be dipped yet (but maybe someday) 08:38 huh which artifact weapon did you find there? 08:39 oh a claw 08:39 yeah so can't really use it 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Cen Fem Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:18009 08:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 124 points, T:119, killed by a gas spore's explosion 08:40 is pourpoor iron or something? 08:41 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Bluescreenofdeath/Materials - it's basically iron but worse, because it can also be damaged by fire 08:45 ah right, was confused by it rusting 08:45 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 91 points, T:293, killed by a water demon 08:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 08:51 -!- microlance has joined #hardfought 08:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 19 points, T:208, killed by a newt 08:57 K2 do you have ops in #NetHack 08:57 just incase its needed 08:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 14 points, T:202, killed by a kobold 08:58 K2: nvm, all good 08:58 -!- K2 is now known as L3 08:59 oh no, he slid into evil 08:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 109901 points, T:19063, quit 08:59 -!- L3 is now known as k2 08:59 -!- k2 is now known as K2 08:59 @microlance why? 09:00 aoei yes... why? 09:00 why the hell does a goose need a +1 weapon to hit 09:00 <{Demo}> hey k2 I was thinking about evilhack in my sleep last night :( 09:00 have you ever tried to hit a goose with a sword 09:00 not easy I tell you 09:01 K2: just incase this person who looked like they weren't listening didn't leave or continued to be a problem 09:01 but they left 09:01 so its all good 09:01 It is easy to hit a goose with your sword once it has a big bite of your ass in its beak 09:01 hahaha 09:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 92 points, T:508, killed by a sewer rat 09:01 K2: aosdict suggested they take wahtever it was they were doing to #bottest, and they appeared not to react at first, but they left a couple minutes later 09:01 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:29210 09:02 aoei ah ok cool 09:02 LarienTelrunya: clearly the inspiration here is to add a new monster "evasive goose" that requires +5 to hit 09:02 hahaha 09:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rockt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 410 points, T:1687, killed by a hobgoblin 09:02 swans are nasty 09:02 K2: anyway good to know you have ops there just incase 09:03 <@microlance> vi are perfect because the creators were perfect human beings. theres really no room for discussion 09:03 {Demo} do you remember your dream? 09:05 <{Demo}> not at all thankfully 09:06 <{Demo}> i remember another dream where i had an 18 pack of beer in the back of a random guys truck and was consuming it rapidly til he started to get onto the highway then i was like fuck this i gotta bail and hopped out on the entrance and was fine 09:13 aoei: you can usually find someone in #nethack-ops fwiw 09:14 nicole: ahhh ok 09:14 thanks 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:59753 09:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3227 09:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:22813 09:22 nicole: there's a whole channel for #nethack operators? 09:23 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 09:23 aosdict: yeah, we mostly use it so people can contact us easily or if there's something that all ops should know 09:23 aosdict: in practice it's very quiet 99% of the time 09:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4776 09:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:5003 09:26 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:26 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 40 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:62859 09:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered Katje, his faithful housecat, on T:5535 09:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:18689 09:33 HA! found a scroll of genocide to wipe out that ****ed up nymph :P now I can finally go back and reclaim all my stuff! 09:35 LarienTelrunya please report to the nymph reclaim desk 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:64098 09:35 "Welcome! How can we rob you today?" 09:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:18894 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5254 09:38 When Juiblex engulfs you, you should be transported to a separated "Juiblex's gut" level and need to fight your way out while taking environmental acid damage 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2560 09:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3845 points, T:7545, killed by an invisible Woodland-elf, while praying 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:5384 09:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 148 points, T:575, killed by a gnome 09:42 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3404 points, T:4271, killed by an ape 09:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:19593 09:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Cleaver, on T:254538 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Cen Fem Cha) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Brigand, on T:20477 09:47 how may ghost levels so far krm26? 09:47 *how many 09:47 Just the one, I just never killed the ghost until now 09:48 ah ok 09:48 Was swinging that very ghost's +0 mithril mace until a few turns ago 09:49 Spinning my wheels a lot, 2 levels short of quest, dungeon explored down to 23 with nothing interesting, way up cut off by scary Yeenoghu that was totally my fault 09:49 The level 14 requirement blows 09:49 Lemme die if I wanna die 09:49 oh but you are a priest? 09:49 Indeed 09:49 well... 09:50 Chaotic centaur priest, trying for a world first ascension combo 09:50 create monster on your home level, lure wraiths 09:50 <{Demo}> wraith wrath 09:50 Don't have create monster. Or any healing spells 09:50 My spellbook selection is crap 09:50 slow digestion? 09:50 Nope 09:50 <{Demo}> writhe-wrath 09:50 wand of create monster? 09:51 normally I get to level 14 as priest by luring wraiths out of the quest home level 09:51 I have an "oMR from sokoban, Demonbane, a bag of holding from microlance, and no way to create monsters (or to kill them except with a mace) 09:51 I *do* have a staff of divination and identify which is excellent except of course, no drops to identify, because dungeon cleared of monsters :-) 09:52 Gonna be another 70k turn game 09:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:2321 09:53 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 145 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:67170 09:53 -!- K2 is now known as N5 09:53 oh oh... 09:53 -!- N5 is now known as K2 09:53 phew 09:53 lol 09:54 close shave there 09:54 [hdf-us] [gh] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:29841 09:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3104 09:56 N5 probably just digs up the EPI list and starts implementing stuff off it 09:57 spicyebolla, what do you think spicycat is going to wish for? 09:57 *spicycebolla 09:57 you should probably stay away from spicy ebola 09:57 * tinklebear is typo-prone 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:67355 09:58 * tinklebear should not be allowed near the keyboard 09:58 was your nick originally meant to be tinklebeard? 09:59 didn't fit the character limit? 10:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 988 points, T:4038, killed by a kobold zombie, while fainted from lack of food 10:02 tinklebear: idk, i've never found a floor wow before 10:02 i think i wasted a charge when i said that i DON'T want to add to the engraving on the floor :( 10:03 i shoulda known, this is nethack, don't do what makes intuitive sense. check the wiki! 10:06 spicecebolla: gah. I saw that "glow and fade" message, and thought it sounded bad. 10:06 *spicycebolla ... 10:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 338 points, T:1422, killed by a gnome 10:09 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 10:10 -!- K2 is now known as Z17 10:10 muahahah 10:10 all your base are belong to us! 10:11 * Z17 prepares for multiverse domination 10:11 -!- Z17 is now known as K2 10:13 sorry bout that. not sure what happened there 10:13 its all a blur 10:13 everyone ok? 10:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of brown pudding, on T:25856 10:13 * tinklebear looks in sack for silver items 10:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:21460 10:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:21772 10:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:21904 10:25 Dammit, cubed without preparation 10:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) wished for "potion of unholy water", on T:38273 10:26 krm26: the gelatinous cube engulfing thing? 10:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:5323 10:26 Yup... Think I'm toast, because my damage output is so low 10:26 s - a tin of cubed krm26 meat 10:26 you have 4 turns (assuming normal speed unencumbered) to do something 10:27 if it doesnt paralyze you 10:27 Yeah, but I think all I can do is bash and hope for great damage rolls versus awful hit point generation on the cube 10:27 no way to tele yourself out? 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1270 10:27 or poly the cube from the inside? 10:27 Scrolls, but I didn't think you could read them inside cubes any more? 10:28 you should 10:28 i dont recall making it so you cant 10:28 Really? I'd swear I tried to read a scroll inside an engulfer in EvilHack and it told me to foad 10:28 is it a no-tele floor? 10:28 Just normal dungeon 10:28 give it a shot 10:28 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:29 * K2 wonders what 'foad' is 10:29 Well, if I spend two rounds trying that and fail I *definitely* can't fight my way out 10:29 odds are high the second you hit it, you're going to paralyze yourself 10:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:5738 10:29 assuming you dont have free action 10:29 <@the_eternal_paradox> hi there 10:29 <{Demo}> foad = fuck off and die? 10:29 <{Demo}> oh a scroll 10:30 Here goes nothing 10:30 hi @the_eternal_paradox 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:8482 10:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:38359 10:31 Scroll worked. What the heck am I thinking of? There was some situation in my last game where I was engulfed and couldn't read a scroll. Or maybe it wouldn't let me cast a spell...my inattentiveness in this game is legendary 10:31 #ad 10:31 <@the_eternal_paradox> is it possible for the Wizard to have woken up when I was still outside the tower? 10:31 you may have been on a no tele level 10:31 <@the_eternal_paradox> no drum of earthquake or anything 10:31 @the_eternal_paradox yes 10:31 In theory I already know about that gotcha :-) 10:31 does polyself into mind flayer and blasting them still work? 10:31 <@the_eternal_paradox> uh-oh 10:31 <{Demo}> get a monster to attack him and he'll wake up i think 10:32 cursed invis potion 10:32 <{Demo}> not sure how you get a monster to attack him 10:32 krm26: closest thing I can think of (and it isn't that close) is that in vanilla you can't loot containers that are sitting on the "floor" of an engulfer. 10:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2415 points, T:6362, killed by a dingo 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7810 10:36 I can't remember the last time I've had an upper dungeon so denuded of monsters and items 10:36 Gonna be another 10k turns hitting 14 at this rate 10:36 <{Demo}> good think evilhack doesnt penalize that anymore 10:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bau (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1373 points, T:1314, quit 10:37 The speedrunners all laugh at me and call me names tho 10:37 krm26: :( 10:38 krm26: do you get nicknamed Geryon? :D 10:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:38659 10:39 I prefer Aergia 10:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22820 10:40 I do like cows though 10:41 Don't really understand why there is a demon called Geryon in any case, weird mashup 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Hero, on T:74133 10:41 -!- hisacro has left #hardfought 10:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:41 Was that nethack's fault or Gygax's? 10:42 I think it was in d&d first 10:42 It's in the Monster Manual. Don't think it's nethack's fault. 10:42 *He's in the... 10:42 krm26: could you consort with some foocubi to get the levels? 10:43 I think the Monster Manual was '77 10:43 Anyway, that is a poor appropriation for Medusa's grandson 10:43 77 sounds about right. 10:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Mal Neu), 933888 points, T:74598, drowned in a moat by a kraken 10:43 I've gotten 1 from an incubus, yeah 10:44 <@the_eternal_paradox> awww man 10:44 <@the_eternal_paradox> next time I probably shouldn't stand right on top of a moat 10:44 rip :( 10:45 krm26: Geryon's Medusa's grandson? 10:45 who left yeenoghu in a dlvl 8 bones?! 10:46 In Greek mythology, yeah 10:46 isn't Geryon from dante's inferno 10:46 Not me, my Yeenoghu is waiting to kill me on level 4 10:46 In the Inferno he flies Dante down to the eighth circle 10:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:47 I guess that makes more sense as a Monster Manual source 10:47 It is my Greek mythology bias 10:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2684 10:48 Medusa + Poseidon = Chrysaor, + Callirrhoe = Geryon 10:48 cool. thank you! 10:49 Heracles mucked with him, labor number something or other 10:49 lol. the legendary adventures 10:49 > mucked with him 10:50 I see what you did there 10:50 Heracles loved mucking 10:51 I once had a nethack dream where medusa's lair was replaced with circe's island 10:51 and it was pretty cool 10:51 It is a shame that level isn't modeled after Aeaea 10:53 Oh hey, I should try to find this Black Market thing I hear so much about 10:53 will scare monster work on 3.7hdf yeenoghu? 10:53 no 10:53 krm26 evilhack doesnt have the black market 10:53 Ah, that explains it 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 107 points, T:412, killed by a small mimic 10:54 Sitting for another thousand turns it is 10:54 can't get no respect 10:55 krm26: any sinks you can kick to get seduced by foocubi and get the xp levels? 10:55 amateurhour: that wouldn't work with the Dangerfield/Marvin-paranoid-android bit! 10:56 Hmm, there might be one sink. Have gone through 4 foos already for just 1 level 10:56 no respect, I tell you 10:57 any suggestions for a weak ass healer defeating yeenoghu? I have reflection and MR, basic in silver saber. AC -10. That's all I'm bringing to this fight :( 10:57 I have a pet flying gargoyle, but not sure he'll even engage. 10:58 !PoM 10:58 APic: The moon is new for 1 more day. 10:58 hmmm yeenoghu can paralyse 10:58 so high MC (i think MC works on his paralysis attack?) and/or free action ring desirable 10:58 bouquet: i would GTFO if I lacked free action 10:58 ^ 10:58 yea yeenoghu scary without free action 10:58 scary and bad 10:59 can also summon demogorgon too 10:59 fortunately, he's the level below me. 10:59 phew 10:59 ya, demogordon ramsey is who I'm really afraid of 10:59 don't want to piss him off! 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 683 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30157 11:00 bouquet: XD 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3247 11:00 demogordon ramsey and his razor sharp, stinging vicious tongue 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2235 11:02 this blows. He's on dlvl 8. There's so much more exploring to do but I'm stuck in the shallow end 11:02 Dig past him? 11:03 that's tricky krm26 11:03 doable, but tricky 11:03 i think he's fairly fast 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Wizard, on T:30201 11:03 that's likely my only option, but I'll have to be fast. 11:03 so you need to luck on a shaft 11:03 or be quick 11:03 if you can try digging down from the above level first 11:04 see if you luck out on a shaft 11:04 good thinking! 11:04 could maybe check for vlad was here traps too? 11:04 demogorgon is the fastest unique demon, I think. (also makes the lightest statue) 11:04 right, but demo at least hasn't been summoned (yet) 11:04 yeenoghu still quick tho i think? 11:04 dangerous 11:04 *yeenoghu not demogorgon 11:04 Most important, I just need to come to terms with the likely conclusion that it's the end of the road for this promising healer 11:05 * tinklebear needs to stay away from keeboard 11:05 Cursed scroll of teleportation? 11:05 tinklebear: oooh rally 11:05 shits lol 11:06 * tinklebear is a mess... 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:4613 11:09 I could try to sac for demonbane. At least that way he won't gate in mr. ramsey. 11:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3553 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:4672 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:30460 11:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:30469 11:13 <@microlance> wth i quit instead of saving me double brand hobbit tourist. how will i ever forgive myself 😦 "hdf-eu microlance (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 109901 points, T:19063, quit" 11:13 Damn, first wraith corpse in 5k turns and it just rots away on me 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a winter wolf cub corpse on an altar of Odin, on T:5597 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:5641 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4963 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5939 11:15 Oh screw you for dropping a food ration Mr. Wraith 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5055 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:5060 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of finger of death", on T:30611 11:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 33 points, T:235, killed by a jackal 11:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 82 points, T:320, killed by a newt 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:10609 11:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:39532 11:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Father Dagon, on T:39558 11:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5521 11:28 Leveling by foocubus is just not that feasible as a centaur 11:28 <{Demo}> i dont like the image that puts in my head lol 11:29 That's what blindfolds are for 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 5563 points, T:5853, killed by a dwarf king 11:29 <{Demo}> all rodneys horses and all rodneys men couldnt put that succubus back together again 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:31167 11:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 592 points, T:1805, killed by Ms. Beddgelert; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 11:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 7 points, T:39, killed by a fox 11:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 2 points, T:28, killed by a jackal 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed nekochan's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:14235 11:34 Ok, the game has successfully defeated me with boredom. Maybe I'll level up while I'm gone 11:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Mage, on T:31318 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:48323 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1927 points, T:13189, quit 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) genocided class c, on T:28704 11:45 @microlance :( 11:45 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:47 "You will always remember the double brand hobbit tourist" 11:47 <@microlance> im forgiven myself, my lvl 5 robbery which gained me 2500 gold a magic lamp and a dragonhide hat makes up for it 11:48 lol! 11:50 -!- arahael has joined #hardfought 11:50 are there still variants in 2020 that don't have paranoid quit? 11:51 i've accidentally quit a couple times 11:51 i want to exit the program, yep 11:51 so i'll load the autosave later and it's #quitting time nowwwwwwwohdangit 11:52 I've made just about every other conceivable catastrophic typo, so it's kind of surprising I haven't yet managed to beat paranoid quit 11:53 spicycebolla: nooooo 11:53 painful just to imagine 11:53 i think it even asked me y/n 11:53 and i was like yes, duh, just like all the other programs that ask if you really want to quit 11:54 anything 3.6/3.7 based has paranoid quit 11:54 * tinklebear HATES "y/n" sooo confusting 11:54 that's what i typed aint it?! 11:54 end user has to enable it 11:55 4k has a good one, you really have to think about pressing S!y 11:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 89 points, T:205, killed by a goblin 11:55 but M-qy is weirdly easy to autopilot into while distracted 11:55 yes, or no? so simple, yet so slippery. what is yes? not no! 11:55 yes != no 11:56 except when yes == no 11:56 Not Helpful! 11:56 then no == yes 11:56 wait, fourk still has that weird thing where you need to press the save button if you want to quit??? 11:56 how is that not confusing lol :P 11:56 2fa quit when? 11:56 it is infernally confustionating 11:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed Daemon, on T:40661 11:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 45 points, T:387, killed by a magic missile 11:57 don't you not wish to quitn't or not? 11:57 [Yn] 11:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 16 points, T:44, killed by contaminated water 11:58 i mean, if you're actually paying attention you can just his esc, that's usually the safe exit for any prompt. don't have to overthink the y/n :P 11:58 "usually" 11:59 the one time that I accidentally quit when I wanted to save was when I was playing late at night, very tired 12:00 This is what astronaut school is for, I imagine. 12:00 how do I check what a spell does again? 12:01 amateurhour: + to open the known spell menu, then ? to switch to description mode 12:01 thanks :) 12:01 feature ported from dnethack ;) 12:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha) stole 1943 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Droichead Atha's second-hand bookstore, on T:4792 12:03 You consume broiled food. You cannibal! 12:03 ???? 12:04 well you ate human meat, apparently 12:04 why are humans unfamiliar to me? 12:04 I've killed some 12:05 it's a SLASH'EM feature that tins have 50% chance of smelling unfamiliar unless you ate that specific monster species before 12:05 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:06 being a cannibal is not too bad 12:06 dont take that out of context please 12:07 well as a lawful it can reduce your luck by up to 5 points 12:07 (don't take that out of a slex contest please :D ) 12:07 aggravate monster probs spawns 10 demogorgons or something 12:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 9709 points, T:5750, killed by a splash of acid 12:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:5750 12:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] joes (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 107199 points, T:29160, killed by a winged gargoyle 12:09 Ouch microlance 12:09 !lastgame 12:09 joes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/brandon/nethack/dumplog/1607988501.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1608136409.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1608042051.nh.html 12:09 !lastgame joes 12:09 joes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/nethack/dumplog/1569401310.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/nethack/dumplog/1608049874.nh.html 12:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:2483 12:11 woohoo I reclaimed the items that were stolen by that nymph, at last 12:12 feels almost like finding a bones file, after all she had the box with goodies among other things 12:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:1116 12:15 so how you liking 3.7 LarienTelrunya 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:10014 12:15 i hear you like it more than 3.4.3 12:15 K2: eh, it has the occasional good feature, but I'd not want to actually play it :P 12:16 but you're playing it now 12:16 ... 12:16 :D 12:16 huh?! I'm playing slex 12:16 no 12:16 did you somehow transform slex into 3.7? 12:16 hah, no not even god can do that 12:16 yay an altar -> convert it -> kostchtchie appears 12:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4813 12:16 amateurhour: wtf? what did you offer to convert it? 12:17 would like to see the message log on that 12:17 he offered slex 12:17 moloch was angery that I converted the altar 12:17 one of the things summoned gated them in 12:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4834 12:17 oh, yeah that can happen 12:17 :| 12:17 this is gonna be a ripperino 12:17 if you didn't move since the turn on which he was summoned, you can phase door away and hopefully land outside his LOS so he stays asleep 12:17 but, probably too late now 12:18 oh they're not covetous 12:18 or aren't warping for other reasons 12:18 are you still wearing the jumpsuit? then you should be able to reflect the breath 12:18 they have a wand of striking 12:18 and only have single reflection not triple reflection or whatever :P 12:19 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 12:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 211070 points, T:39622, killed by a gargoyle 12:23 which ttyrec-player do you guys use? just realized I've lost the candelabrum and need to hunt it down :P (yeah I know I've done that before thankyouverymuch). 12:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6638 12:25 -!- spicycebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41456 12:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4180 points, T:6725, killed by a watchman, while praying 12:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 1351 points, T:1165, killed by a gnome 12:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a green mold, on T:3282 12:28 I use termplay Merlek http://angband.pl/termrec.html 12:29 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:30 cheers, will try that :) 12:31 <@Tone> Merlek: I like jettyplay best, and recently learned that you can search for text strings with it, so it can be pretty nice for finding lost items 12:33 oh that might be handy indeed :D 12:33 i used ipbt because there was a homebrew recipe for it and jettyplay doeesn't build on macos 12:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 380 points, T:1364, killed by a rabid rat 12:34 ipbt does that (but curses mode, while comprehensible, looks weird) 12:35 for my needs it was good enough 12:35 or is, rather 12:35 but i'd prefer jettyplay if it built 12:35 out of 14 wands I obtained this game so far, 5 are undead turning 12:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 85 points, T:174, killed by a goblin 12:37 * tinklebear scrapes around in bookmarks, http://nethack4.org/projects/jettyplay/ 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh4] Millie (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 51097 points, T:17716, killed by a forest centaur 12:38 totally avoidable YASD. RIP 12:39 LarienTelrunya: Eventually I am thinking of just eliminating "quit" as a feature, on the grounds that anybody who can't figure out how to bring a game of NetHack to a rapid conclusion, is obviously not trying very hard. 12:39 hahaha 12:39 sounds like a plan :D 12:39 Basically, I don't consider quit to be an important feature and have not bothered to do any improvements to it. 12:39 Same goes for autoexplore. 12:40 heh, why is autoexplore even a thing 12:40 jonadab that's a novel approach 12:40 Because players requested it. But I don't understand why they want it. 12:40 yeah me neither 12:40 would kill a fair amount of the start scumming in tournaments 12:40 I don't think autoexplore improves the game. 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:6532 12:40 cant quit, gotta kill yourself off somehow 12:40 K2: That's the thing: it wouldn't. 12:40 Killing yourself off is NOT HARD in th is game. 12:41 especially since all the autoexplore implementations I've seen so far have no confirmation, so you accidentally slip on that button and your char starts running into the completely wrong direction with no way for you to stop it 12:41 burt it still takes longer than a second 12:41 but 12:41 for TNNT 2021, disable 'quit'. brilliant 12:42 start scum all ya want people hahahah 12:42 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 12:42 BULLSHIT 12:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:42 somehow slot 'u' wasn't my key any longer, but a wand! and I brainlessly confirmed with 'y' that I really want to unlock something 12:42 now I broke that wand for no reason! 12:43 goddammit 12:43 at least it was only a wand of slow monster, but still! 12:43 eady: A friend of mine started playing DCSS not NetHack _because_ of autoexplore, because she has RSI. That's one reason. 12:44 Who wants paranoid checks on whether they want to lock/unlock things? 12:44 Another reason is @+###### <- have you been to the end of this corridor? Autoexplore knows. 12:44 Pinkbeast: I refuse to play versions where solid rock isn't visible lol :P 12:44 Paranoid checks like that don't work, you just end up automatically pressing the sequence 12:44 YES ^ 12:45 But a third reason is the DCSS trifecta of autoexplore making sure you _see_ every item, Ctrl-F remembering every item you've seen, and being able to interlevel travel to them. 12:45 personally i like autoexplore. it helps you get through some tedious sreas like the mazes fairly quick-like 12:45 bhaak, autoexplore for 3.7 when? 12:45 LarienTelrunya: Sure, then there's only 2 reasons (and not everyone has RSI, either...) 12:45 autofight when :P (not being serious, obviously) 12:45 * tinklebear likes mazes... 12:45 In initial paranoid check research with the army in the 80's we decided you had to type a randomly selected string for confirmation each time 12:46 Pinkbeast: If anything, I think the extensive overuse of and reliance upon autoexplore in DCSS, would be _worse_ for RSI. 12:46 eady: Why? 12:46 Type "(one of delete, confirm, really, etc.)" to delete this file 12:46 Pinkbeast: Because you're doing the same thing over and over again. autoexplore, fight, autoexplore, fight, autoexplore, fight. 12:46 But you're doing much _less_ of it. 12:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4517 12:47 One press of 'o' can take you halfway across the level. (And interlevel travel similarly saves keystrokes). 12:47 krm26: that sounds cogent, for things that are worth being paranoid about. 12:47 An interlevel version of travel, I would be on board with. 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:4676 12:47 Though you'd need a resume key for it. 12:47 Because long travel consistently gets interrupted by monsters. 12:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5416 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:29264 12:49 In another 300 years we'll have some user interfaces with as much design work in them as doorknobs have 12:49 it's the slippery slope to autoascend 12:49 Or rather our mutant ant overlords will 12:49 and I for one look forward to it 12:50 maybe I'd finally beat evilhack 12:50 Heh. 12:50 krm26: Have you read CJ Cherryh's "Serpent's Reach"? 12:50 Evilhack would just have autoDYWYPI 12:50 I have indeed read everything Cherryh wrote. Because I am olllldddd 12:50 lololol 12:51 fantastic! 12:51 i havent read CJ Cherryh in a long while 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4843 12:52 * tinklebear only began reading her a couple years ago, and is still excited about it 12:53 nice 12:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3059 12:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1817 points, T:3102, killed by a gnome lord 12:53 i've read the first couple books of the Foreigner' universe 12:54 first trilogy, loooong time ago 12:54 She' 12:54 and then most of the 'heroes in hell' series 12:55 Oops...she's really interesting, met her once through the Woodrow Wilson Foundation (or whatever they've changed their name to now) 12:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:26398 12:55 neat 12:55 wow, cool 12:55 hrm. i am really old and i have only read some cj cherryh 12:56 Didn't Cherryh do a collaborative series with Niven at some point?: 12:56 Or am I thinking of someone else? 12:56 She was hot stuff when I was in high school, starting to Hugo up around then if I recall 12:56 hothraxxa helped draft the dead sea scrolls 12:57 Hah. 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:29310 12:57 I don't recall a Cherryh/Niven story. Those were two super-different people 12:57 When I was in college I had a clay tablet. (Well, technically it was an ITT XTRA, but we called it the "clay tablet". We thought we were hilarious.) 12:57 [hdf-eu] [slex] Ulf (AmyBSOD) (Ast Hrl Mal Neu) killed the BOFH, on T:10517 12:57 that took a while 12:58 LarienTelrunya: You finally did tiles for slex? 12:58 lol 12:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:27082 12:58 those neanderthal cave paintings in france? if you look real closely, there's a footnote at the bottom, says something like 'very rusty very historic greased blessed magic marker named prop. of hothraxxa, esq' 12:58 The Xtra? That could use a color monitor. You're young! 12:58 eady: you might be thinking of jerry pournelle 12:59 hothraxxa: Oh, maybe. 12:59 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 626 points, T:4185, killed by Ms. Upernavik, the shopkeeper 12:59 krm26: Yes, I had a CGA monitor. 12:59 Yeah, Pournelle is like an anti-Cherryh 13:00 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 13:00 * hothraxxa ^5 krm26 13:00 krm26: Alright, different question: what's the oldest book you've read? 13:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wvc (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 211 points, T:563, killed by a coyote 13:01 odd question 13:01 Well, one of my degrees is in classics...does the Iliad count? 13:01 hothraxxa: Yeah, most people have to think for a bit. 13:01 krm26: The Illiad absolutely counts. 13:01 well i don't know what you meant 13:01 Assuming you've read it. 13:01 Not just, like, summaries of it. 13:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 17571 points, T:7176, poisoned by a jumping spider 13:02 Several times, but only in translation 13:02 cliff notes! 13:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 248 points, T:416, killed by a kobold lord 13:02 I've read the original Aeneid though 13:02 krm26: Translations are fair, IMO. Though true purists would probably argue with that. 13:02 i mean when i was a kid someone gave me an 1894 edition of tom brown's schooldays 13:02 krm26: You read Latin? Cool. 13:02 My ancient Greek is "spotty" 13:03 I only read Common Greek. Haven't gotten into the truly ancient stuff. 13:03 (I only have a classics minor) 13:03 And I need a lexicon. 13:03 Not reading German == impossible to get a real classics degree :-) 13:04 I would think Greek would be more important for that than German. 13:04 Not really 13:04 Though I can see how German would also be relevant. 13:04 98.5% of classics scholarship is in German 13:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 71 points, T:367, killed by a fox 13:04 krm26: Oh, the so-and-so's-scholarly-opinion-on-this-or-that-classic-text stuff? 13:05 Indeed 13:05 I see. 13:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:27742 13:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:27746 13:06 krm26: those damn Germans and their love for old stuff :-) 13:06 btw, that's one of the reason why their internet is so slow 13:06 my internet is pretty damn fast, thanks :) 13:07 it's compensation for living in lands without writing while the greeks and romans were writing all that stuff 13:07 K2: autoexplore is kinda controversial. and messy. god is that code messy 13:07 I think the US takes the cake for slow first-world Internet 13:08 krm26: It's not as bad as it used to be. 13:08 But still probably yes. 13:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:27964 13:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:7, killed by a falling rock 13:09 bhaak: make it so 13:09 earl grey tea, hot 13:09 I suspect the Anabasis must be the oldest book I've read 13:09 <@microlance> are infidels supposed to be played more like real casters then wizards? 13:09 and krm26 is correct about 'high speed' internet in the US 13:10 what goes against us though is that we're a rather large country in terms of land area 13:10 so as i said to homer this one time, what do you think about writing some of this stuff down? 13:10 hothraxxa hah 13:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42316 13:11 hothraxxa: 'how bout you write this shit down instead of just preaching it?' jesus: 'hmm... ok' 13:11 Pinkbeast: Xenophon? 13:11 eady: t 13:11 bah, jesus didn't write anything that survived 13:11 hothraxxa: 'outsource it' jesus: 'yeah good diea' 13:11 i warned him about that 13:11 idea 13:12 get some of your buddies on it, i said 13:12 lol 13:12 hothraxxa: Did you ever get to meet Moses? 13:12 I'd like to tell you I'm only 19, but people didn't believe me when I said it during the French Revolution, either 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3322 points, T:4955, quit 13:12 only when he was a wee lad 13:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:42364 13:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:9073 13:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 492 points, T:1185, killed by a water moccasin 13:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:36, killed by a water moccasin 13:14 * eady tried to tell Eliphaz and Bildad to leave Job alone, but they just had to have their little "intervention". 13:14 Actually, Job may possibly be the oldest book I have read. Assuming translations count, because I have not read it in the original. 13:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:28280 13:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:28282 13:15 Oh, yeah, some of the OT must be older 13:15 Job isn't that old, I think somewhere around 5th BCE? 13:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:15704 13:16 Don't remember, would need to Goog it up 13:16 krm26: It's usually considered to be older than Genesis in written form. 13:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:15800 13:17 I thought most of the Moses books were 5th, maybe 6th BCE 13:18 No. 13:18 6th century would be, like, Ezra. 13:18 I'll defer, I'm no expert on the Old Testament 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7144 13:19 just ask hothraxxa 13:19 he was there 13:19 lmao 13:19 is he like methusalah 13:19 Even people who don't acknowledge that Moses compiled them, accept that the books of Moses were complete by the time of the united monarchy. 13:20 aoei: I think he's the oldest TeamSplat member. So he gets razzed for elderlyness. 13:20 pfff nonsense, me and raisse were the original members 13:21 I mean oldest by age, not by membership duration. 13:21 i know lol 13:21 Also, I thought elenmirie was the founder. 13:21 incorrect 13:21 me, stenno and misha founded it 13:21 in 2012 13:21 elenmirie got involved much later 13:21 Wait, _stenno_ was in Splat? 13:21 In any case the Iliad's got 2-3 centuries on the Pentateuch :-) 13:21 yes in the early days 13:21 Interesting. 13:21 He was gone by the time they recruited me. 13:21 nomi too 13:21 after he, misha and I left raisse became the leader 13:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:21 i am 73 and one third years old going on 74. i claim to be the oldest to ascend most variants and possibly even vanilla 13:21 misha: right 13:22 and rawrmage :( 13:22 rip 13:22 krm26: I haven't read the illiad though. 13:22 and also mehplusrawr 13:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wvc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2843 13:22 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 13:22 And I haven't _really_ read the oddyssey either. I mean, I've read heavily abridged versions of it, but. 13:22 misha: before the name change it was actually an offshoot of nomi's crawl clan right? 13:22 yeah 13:22 "not so bad at this" 13:22 eady: you haven't read illiad and oddyssey? 13:22 After reading the Iliad you will naturally assign epithets to everyone you meet for the rest of your life 13:22 stenno: Not in their entirety, no. 13:22 I know the stories. 13:22 misha: stenno reckons i came up with the name "teamsplat" but i don't really remember myself 13:23 From the various abgreviated retellings. 13:23 *abbrev 13:23 i have no idea who named it lol 13:23 eady: i also used a differnt nick in those days 13:23 misha: is a good name tho i think thats why it stuck around haha 13:23 it's a great name 13:23 nsbat was the precurser of team splat which was founded by nomi 13:23 whoever came up with it 13:24 aoei: Yes, I had gathered that your current nick was only a year or two old. 13:24 (brb) 13:24 was ykstort before, but aoei is now my nick since 7 years 13:24 Oh? 13:24 i spent some years not really aroujnd that much tho 13:24 Ok, longer than I thought. 13:24 Ah. 13:24 became much more active again last year after leaving my ex 13:24 finishing my phd also probably helped 13:25 I can imagine it might. 13:25 My nick is my COMPASS ident from the 80's with two numbers tacked on because nothing is allowed to be three characters now that more than 999 of us use the intertubes 13:25 You sit on the opulent throne. You feel like someone has touched your forehead... Your knowledge of the symbiosis skill increases. You feel more experienced. Welcome to experience level 13. 13:26 why thank you RNG <3 13:26 krm26: Is that COMPASS related in some way to ENCOMPASS / DECUS ? 13:26 Or another thing entirely? 13:26 CDC assembler for the Cyber supercomputers 13:27 * eady did not get internet access until late 1992. 13:27 Wait, no. 13:27 1993. 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 26811 points, T:17275, killed by a bolt of fire 13:27 Fourth quarter 1993. 13:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given the Grandmaster's Robe, on T:255805 13:28 And I think it was early 1994 before we had Mosaic. 13:28 The last September 13:28 1960's era mainframes 13:28 i got my nick back in '92 years before i ever started using interwebz 13:28 krm26: Ah. 13:28 my previous nick, ykstort, was originally chosen for a Runescape account :) 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:9720 13:28 i was probably 12 or 13 at the time 13:28 So basically computers that filled entire buildings and had roughly the same computational power as your coffee maker. 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful warhorse, on T:11522 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 21518 points, T:11535, killed by a Grey-elf, while sleeping 13:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:30232 13:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:30232 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:19775 13:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:5822 13:31 What's funny is I have a virtual machine running a CentOS port of a DEC Alpha emulator running a virtual machine running translated COMPASS to build a condensor that executes TUTOR which wraps callouts to a DEC-again C engine that lays a GUI over a TUTOR HTML rendering engine that lets you browse web 1.0 websites on a modern machine using a layer of code written in the 60s 13:32 <{Demo}> nixos 13:32 -!- werekitten has joined #hardfought 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:8082 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:17686 13:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:42623 13:33 krm26: Interesting. I would've thought it'd be easier to just get Mosaic running. 13:33 I mean, sure, it'll need super old versions of things like libc. 13:34 But it should be possible. 13:34 In fact, Eric and Mark used that browser before writing the first version of Mosaic 13:34 Early Netscape, not so much -- it relied too heavily on websites that are no longer maintianed. 13:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:30390 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:8193 13:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:6430 13:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:6574 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 733 points, T:1763, killed by a giant bat 13:40 <@the_eternal_paradox> wow I just accidentally reversed-geno'd krakens 13:40 <@the_eternal_paradox> I went from level 2 to level 8 in like 3 minutes 13:42 haha, epic 13:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3322 points, T:4955, quit 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2183 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:1914 13:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:30801 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:9338 13:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:30817 13:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1101 points, T:1315, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:2578 13:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:30854 13:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Hum Fem Neu), 25276 points, T:2690, quit 13:50 -!- hisacro has joined #hardfought 13:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:30910 13:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2236134 points, T:30939, ascended 13:52 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Merlek/nethack/dumplog/1608054370.nh.html 13:52 grats Merlek 13:53 i am considering just playing random characters for a bit lol 13:53 gratz Merlek ! 13:53 further working on my consistency thingy 13:53 thanks :) 13:53 stenno: you're not going to do an all race/role/alignment combos streak? 13:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Inf Ith Fem Una), 534 points, T:1252, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 13:54 i did it already but not in a streak 13:54 Ah. 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3545 13:54 stenno was the number 2 player in tnnt, an all race/role/alignment combos streak is beneath them 13:54 lol 13:54 I see. 13:54 they need a permahallu permadeaf zen game or they just don't get that hit anymore 13:54 yeah that is fornoobs 13:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:8217 13:55 stenno: Do petless pacifist then. 13:55 thats easy 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3689 13:56 nah anyway i am trying either pacifist, or maybe just some more random characters 13:56 Allroles pacifist streak? 13:56 lol 13:56 i didn't win pacifist yet so 13:56 Oh, I thought you'd done paci. 13:56 and the best streak i ever had was 5-streak 13:56 nah 13:57 Hmm. 13:57 Foodless nude zen atheist? 13:58 not really interested in foodless atheist tbf 13:58 seems you basically need to find polykit 13:58 before you faint 13:58 Or slow digestion. 13:58 yeah sure 13:59 But yes. 13:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 388 points, T:1408, zombified by a kobold zombie, while sleeping 13:59 weren't you going to do a nudist somethingorother? 13:59 amateurhour: "stoned, in beachwear"? 13:59 i was talking nudist strats with aoei yesterday 13:59 hah 13:59 yea i guess we were more thinking about the idea 13:59 than deciding to imminently do a run 13:59 at least for me that was the case 14:00 Yeah, I still can't do the hard roles, so I am not ready for the hard conducts. 14:00 think the plan was something like nudist wizard with some funky conducts thrown in 14:00 I have done a handful of the easy conducts, like wishless and polyless. 14:00 amateurhour: yeah nudist permahallu i guess 14:00 maybe a cheeky bit of illit just because 14:00 (Not wishless and polyless in the same game, though.) 14:00 fuck it why not zen too 14:00 amateurhour: so you want #removeimarkers to autocomplete, yeah? (coding some stuff for $nextversion right now) 14:00 yeah if possible, should be just a flag in cmd.c I think 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) stole 3470 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Syktywkar's liquor emporium, on T:10269 14:01 No Elbereth, no poly, no wish are definitely the barely-conducts way to go 14:01 alright, will do :) 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:27857 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:27858 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1996 points, T:2842, killed by a giant ant 14:01 eady have you tried doing a conduct monk? I think you'll find it more straightforward to bang out several conducts with that 14:02 huh is OPTIONS=hallu etc. only a tnnt thing? 14:02 or did i just mess up my config what am i doing here 14:03 * aoei double checks 14:03 ah it might be actually 14:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wvc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4652 14:03 booooo 14:03 merge it to vanilla 3.7.0 pols 14:03 pls* 14:04 tbf i can spend two turns and put on my blindfold, remove my cloak 14:04 but it's not the same :( 14:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:04 and hallu won't be possible at all 14:04 zen is in vanilla for sure 14:04 i put that in tho 14:04 in the options :/ 14:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 10 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:50387 14:05 gonna test local with 3.6.6 14:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha) stole 4433 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Imbyze's jewelers, on T:1080 14:06 * Line 13: Unknown option 'zen'. 14:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wvc (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:4997 14:07 <@luxidream> blind 14:07 <@luxidream> OPTIONS=blind,nudist 14:07 ohhhhh 14:07 ok 14:07 thanks lux 14:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master liches), on T:1365 14:08 sweet, works 14:08 not sure about hallu tho hang on 14:08 maybe permahallu, or maybe that one just isn't in vanilla 14:09 yeah ok i think maybe its just permahallu that's tnnt only 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4237 14:11 heh, IIRC in tnnt you simply were blind and couldn't change it 14:11 but OPTIONS=blind on hdf-us started me with a blindfold worn 14:11 so i guess that means you can choose to break conudct 14:11 conduct* 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4270 14:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:11229 14:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 2186 points, T:2538, quit 14:13 oh no, correction 14:13 if your starting invent has a blindfold, you start wearing it 14:13 but if not you're just blind 14:13 in which case you probably can't cahnge it 14:14 or maybe i just loaded the save where i was already wearing my blindfold <.< 14:14 im gonna stop talking now 14:15 -!- werekitten has quit [] 14:15 oh yeah i definitely did because an actual nudist game also doesn't even have a CoMR, worn or otherwise 14:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Gia Fem Neu), 430 points, T:1318, killed by a water moccasin 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:9575 14:17 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5107 points, T:9192, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 61 points, T:326, killed by a kobold 14:17 :c 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:22466 14:18 I feel like this should be obvious but as a centaur, since I can sacrifice humans, can I sacrifice lycanthropes? Or are the lycanthropes in a centaur game were-centaurs? :-) 14:18 <@microlance> evilhack isnt dng, you can sacrifice everything thats not literally part of your community 14:18 <@microlance> cnh 14:18 <@microlance> dnh 14:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:12198 14:19 do you still become a murderer if you kill an orc shopkeeper? 14:21 <@microlance> murder and live sacrifice are to very different things in the dungeon 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:11239 14:25 yes i am aware. do you still become a murderer if you kill an orc shopkeeper? 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 73131 points, T:11355, killed by an ochre jelly, while paralyzed by a monster 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh4] Millie (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 32600 points, T:3906, killed by a giant bat 14:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:13168 14:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51567 14:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51569 14:28 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 14:29 wow 14:29 1k turns just to find the downstairs on dl1 14:30 there was a bit of the dungeon hidden by hidden corridor and i ended up finding it by jumping onto tele traps 14:30 the mines will be so much fun 14:30 because i tried searching all the obvious hidden door places 14:30 im not going anywhere near mines without telepathy lol 14:30 you know you want to 14:30 lies 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53304 14:31 i wonder if i can write scrolls that I started the game knowing 14:31 or if scrolls of any kind are just not happening 14:31 in which case i should have rerolled some more til spellbook of id 14:31 not attempted to see if i can read any of my starting scrolls, yet 14:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 417 points, T:1214, killed by a giant spider, while frozen by a potion 14:31 maybe i should loicaltest some of this lol 14:32 sweet, you can read your starting scrolls 14:32 even tho you're blind 14:32 trouble is you can't just dip a random scroll from the ground on a fountain and then try to write it (assuming you can write the formula blind fro memory) 14:32 you've always been able to read scrolls blind haven't you? 14:32 because it'll say 14:33 "you cant tell if this scroll is blank or not" 14:33 hothraxxa: ah okay so maybe as long as you can ID it you can read it 14:33 you cant read ones you picked up while blind, that i know for sure 14:33 but once you've id'd it i guess it's fine 14:33 you can one you know the label 14:33 right 14:33 once 14:33 nice 14:33 so doesn't have to be id'ed 14:34 see it's the label that's magic 14:34 hm but how do you know the label of as scroll from the floor? 14:34 if you're blind? 14:35 you get the shopkeeper to tell you 14:35 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:35 just don't bump into one. they're kind of touchy 14:36 biotin surface labelling on scrolls 14:37 i fouhnd a shop 14:37 but i think i will leave it til i have telepathy 14:37 shops are a bit scary 14:37 last time i tried zen i died because of shops 14:38 i found a stethoscope deathdrop from a monster *just* outside the shop tho 14:38 I've just finished vlad's and should probably do some wishing 14:38 taht's really nice to help figure out what monsters im fighting 14:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Peregrinator, on T:14087 14:38 and i have two markers lol 14:38 and a polycontrol ring 14:38 \o/ 14:38 this is fairly promising 14:38 altho zen nude i mean 14:38 lets see haha 14:38 lol 14:38 you can easily find the shk with that 14:39 stumbling around naked and blind 14:39 what could possibly go wrong? 14:39 yeah i guess if i play real slow 14:39 bit worried about mimics but i can steth them too i suppose 14:39 <{Demo}> naked and afraid 14:40 hm how do i get the shk to tell me? 14:40 i picked onne up but 14:40 <{Demo}> chat at random squares? 14:40 Annootok says that your bill comes to 133 zorkmids. 14:40 yeah, talk to the air 14:40 try standing on it and chatting 14:40 he should tell you then what it is 14:41 nah that doesn't work either 14:41 he'll tell me my bill or talk aobut the problem of shoplifters 14:41 -!- Bliss56 has joined #hardfought 14:41 he ony tells me the price of stuf fnothing aobut their labels 14:41 hm 14:41 <{Demo}> tell him hes dumb and he should tell you 14:41 maybe if i buy or sell? 14:41 kill him? 14:42 he's clearly a jerk 14:42 :o 14:42 magic lamp in the shop 14:42 wonder what would be an ideal wish for a zen char.. 14:43 blessed figurine of an archon? 14:43 no, that's paci 14:43 lol 14:43 hehe i am glad i started with charm monster too 14:43 i just tamed a mimic 14:43 better be careful tho being blind and all 14:43 dont want to kill it 14:43 name it mimi 14:44 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 14:45 hehehe 14:45 More and more people are asking for permahallu option in vanilla. 14:45 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 14:46 managed to id looooads of shop stuff with my starting blessed scroll 14:46 aoei: i was referring to scrolls you own already 14:46 huh 14:46 how do i get the shk to tell me the label of my scrolls? 14:46 try to sell them? 14:46 yes 14:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a steel two-handed sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:2544 14:47 ahhhh i see 14:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:43627 14:47 cool, thanks 14:47 hmm, there is a lot of great stuff here i'd like to just rob 14:47 ok let me clarify. i haven't played zen or blind. i am relating what deuce told me about how he managed to do a zen ascension 14:47 <@microlance> most rogueish weapon i have ever gotten 14:47 but then it will be difficult to use the shk for sneaky stuff 14:48 er well iding scrolls 14:48 i could try to do the taming method sincei can charm monster 14:48 but without a CoMR i might die too fast 14:49 early wish i might go for poly wand actually, since i have half a polykid, and using polyforms is a) fun, b) some have telepathy and stuff like that 14:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 1860 points, T:2887, killed by an orcish arrow 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:53715 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53716 14:49 you turn into a floating eye! 14:50 ah right, I have another problem, im just remembering this now from last time 14:50 i need telepathy to pay 14:50 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:50 unless i drop credit and teleport out 14:50 luckily I *do* have a tele scroll 14:50 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:53886 14:52 As you pronounce the formula on it, the scroll disappears. 14:52 Your credit of 196 zorkmids is used to cover your shopping bill. 14:52 :D 14:52 great success1 14:52 magic lamp get 14:52 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 14:52 but it's uncursed 14:52 and i dont exactly need the light source ... 14:53 ooo hothraxxa i found an unknown scroll, could try going back to the shop to try the hting 14:53 you will light the way for others, aoei 14:54 What do you want to use or apply? [abk-msuI or ?*] 14:54 In what direction? 14:55 Status of the gas spore (neutral): Level 1 HP 8(8) AC 10. 14:55 i am sure glad i found this stethoscope D: 14:56 probing wands are another thing suddenly a lot more useful if you're zen 14:56 i guess thats one of hte cool things about wacky conducts 14:56 stuff you thought of as junk items are suddenly super cool and useful 14:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 1094 points, T:1521, killed by a magic missile 14:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:14660 14:57 don't eat any carrots 14:57 noooooo 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 634 points, T:2359, killed by a giant bat 14:57 that was going so well :c 14:57 i had some chances to force bolt it sooner, but i was afraid i might hit the shk 14:57 so i retreated first 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:54121 14:58 wonder if i coulda some anything else 14:58 !lastgame 14:58 aoei: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/nethack/dumplog/1608146348.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1608148175.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1608042051.nh.html 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:54126 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed wintergalaxy88's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1817 14:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:14679 14:59 nah no escape items really 14:59 oh well 14:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:43847 14:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 87 points, T:407, killed by a fox 15:00 damn 15:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) stole 450 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Oguhmk's hardware store, on T:1031 15:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:43889 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 82 points, T:143, killed by a goblin, while sleeping 15:03 rofl 15:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Nob Inc Mal Cha), 5072450 points, T:43914, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1608050458.dnh.txt 15:05 <@microlance> you dont get a second message about your thieving prowess when levelporting into antother shop and robbing that one as well 😦 15:06 microlance surely you get the message when you then leave *taht* shop 15:06 i mean you can't rob two at once right 15:07 or do you mean you want an additional kudos message 15:07 after the robbing message for the second shop 15:07 third burglary "damn son, you're on a roll" 15:08 /me had to test hothraxxa's carrot thing. Fooled once! Never again! 15:09 * hothraxxa chuckles 15:09 What's with all the robbery! I can't remember the last game where robbing seemed useful 15:09 tinklebear: try putting on the eyes of the overworld. it will be fun 15:09 krm26: depends on playstyle and goals a lot 15:09 krm26: you i can understand not robbing shops, you play slowly 15:09 aosdict: Not Today! 15:10 minturn players rob all the shops 15:10 True, I am the slowest in the land 15:10 to speedrunners shops are everything 15:10 I guess I'd almost always rather use a shop for price identification 15:10 quoted for truth ^ 15:10 * tinklebear can't remember the last game where ascending seemed useful. What's up with that? 15:10 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:10 and speedrunners have no time or money to acquire shop wares legally 15:10 Yeah, I'm not a fan of ascending either :-) I just like building ascension kits 15:11 they pick up all the scrolls and dig or teleport out 15:11 sometimes i'll kill the shks too :o 15:11 that's pretty mean but they have money and good items sometimes 15:11 K2 was not moved by my plea to let me transfer ascension-ready savegames to people who want to ascend 15:11 stinking cloud scrolls are great for that 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:55637 15:12 krm26: hahahhaha 15:12 that'd be super funny tho 15:12 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 15:13 at what point would this tranfer have taken place? on the co-aligned altar with the amulet? 15:13 might stream some of these attempts at zen nudist lol 15:13 I think a fun tournament activity would be having people compete to ascend a savegame (all levels generated) the fastest 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5660 15:13 i mean, i wouldn't ascend. i'd wander around, see the place 15:13 check out the neighbours 15:13 might be a while before i get back here 15:14 neighbours? is the dungeon of doom built next to angband? 15:14 Non-real-time games are the best for coding, baking, and doing laundry at the same time 15:15 aosdict: there's lots of neighbours over at the other temples 15:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a giant spider), on T:2937 15:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 5832 points, T:2975, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a potion 15:17 dtype is cool cuz he invented the original twitch 15:17 i invented text twitch in 2001 15:17 IM RICK JAMES BITCH 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4031 15:17 dtype: was it 2001, i dont remember for sure what you said lol 15:19 sounds about right 15:19 Hi 15:19 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 15:19 yo Umbire 15:20 dtype: i maybe have embellished a little with the rick james bit tho :D 15:21 -!- k-man has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:21 Good twenty-four-hour period, Umbire 15:21 How's everyone 15:21 anyhow i am streaming me trying to nudist zen on https://twitch.tv/aoeixsz4 but also on dtype's OG text twitch on HDF-US 15:21 gonna get banned, aoei 15:21 Damn it Huan Ti, you've already given me your stupid gift of stupid protection 15:21 text twitch? 15:21 tinklebear: why? 15:21 duh. nudity?? 15:22 is that not allowed on streams? D: 15:22 shit 15:22 i didn't know 15:22 :C 15:22 * tinklebear doesn't know either. doesn't know anything. 15:22 ah okay 15:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Hob Fem Neu) stole 1609 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ballingeary's second-hand bookstore, on T:1381 15:22 wellll illj ust do it for now 15:22 Unicode nudity is too risqué, I draw the line at ASCII nudity 15:22 and see if anyone bans me from twitch 15:22 krm26: rofl 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:55914 15:23 ASCII stupid question, and you'll get a stupid ANSI! 15:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed The Good Neighbor, on T:34174 15:23 xD 15:23 * tinklebear knows it is wrong, but always pictures Huan Ti in a sombrero 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:55920 15:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Con Hum Mal Cha), 111 points, T:182, dragged downstairs by an iron ball 15:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) averted death, on T:34213 15:24 ANOTHER wraith that leaves a pre-rotten corpse. I will never be level 14 15:25 got acid-doused twice by a demi-lich but I got the castle wand. 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:55970 15:26 I think I'm going to wish for a dragonhide smock 15:26 Go go Merlek! 15:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:34223 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1862878 points, T:55982, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Merlek/nethack/dumplog/1583898746.nh.html 15:26 \o/ 15:26 congrats! 15:27 gratz Merlek! 15:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 828 points, T:1992, killed by invisible Mr. Ballingeary; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 134 points, T:858, killed by a bolt of cold 15:27 grats merlek 15:28 i zapped bolt of cold at a monster lol 15:28 thanks! 15:28 thinking it'd bounce away at an angle and not back at me 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7839 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 17 points, T:57, killed by a newt 15:28 <.< 15:29 GG Merlek! 15:29 17k turns later I have managed to go from level 12 to level 14 in my bottle-dungeon and am now permitted to continue. Sheesh 15:29 thanks Umbire! 15:30 the occasional imperfections in dungeon walls that prevent fully reliable bankshots is a nice touch of realism 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 grayswandir", on T:19972 15:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 230 points, T:1145, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 15:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:20245 15:33 Whhhhyyyyy Sunsword why I don't want you to be generated 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 168 points, T:852, killed by a hobbit 15:33 On the priest quest, haven't wished for anything yet, Vorpal Blade and Sunsword in same room. F u game! 15:34 wth 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 57 points, T:170, killed by a fox 15:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:900 15:39 putting some extra MSGTYPE stop things in my rcfile for zen lol 15:39 like if you feel an unseen monster, or it bites/kicks/hits 15:39 cuz i play too fast and keep exloring 15:39 while getting hammered on 15:40 thinking of wishing for Dragonbane now.... 15:40 (just kidding krm26) 15:40 I'm laughing through my tears 15:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bau (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5878 15:40 I mean what a waste of a one in one million shot 15:41 I predict nothing but artifact longswords for my priest all game long 15:41 I've got too many artis in my game too 15:42 oh priest 15:42 yeah that's extra galling 15:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of conflict", on T:15059 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2078 15:44 On the floor, in the same room. I'm not sure EvilHack could make it any more clear how little respect it has for me 15:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:10418 15:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3204 15:47 random magic lamp in orcustown 15:47 now I'm ready to go 15:47 oof. big room. time to die. 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:26526 15:48 This quasit corpse tastes okay. You finish eating the quasit corpse. You feel especially healthy. 15:48 FINALLY! 15:51 * tinklebear spoke too soon. 15:52 tinklebear lives on! 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1164 points, T:2769, killed by a wererat 15:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 2936 points, T:4265, killed by an invisible alhoon 15:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Cav Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:3381 15:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bau (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 14912 points, T:6339, killed by Mr. Nenilukah, the shopkeeper 15:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Cav Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3852 16:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Hob Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of decay", on T:37825 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 3458 points, T:3167, killed by a killer bee 16:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Hob Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 mithril shield of reflection", on T:37826 16:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Hob Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 mithril helm of speed", on T:37827 16:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Hob Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:37828 16:03 just wouldn't be right if it weren't killer bees that finished me off 16:03 Wish I had that wish. Being chased around by a cube, no ranged, no spells, no freedom :-( 16:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 3060 points, T:4762, killed by a bolt of fire 16:04 no free action krm26? 16:04 If you're early enough in the game that a gelcube is a threat, you almost certainly don't have free action yet. 16:04 tinklebear :-( 16:04 Or don't have it _identified_ anyway. 16:05 in evilhack gelcube also engulf and choke you 16:05 You almost always have at least some cheap junk orcish daggers or _something_ for ranged attacks, before you start identifying rings. 16:05 thanks, mobileuser. It's a clever hammer/anvil thing the honey badger and killer bees have going. 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 103146 points, T:27151, killed by Ixoth 16:06 But I get it now. Next time I'm gonna get clobbered by the honey badger instead! 16:06 ouch yeah, honey badgers bite hard 16:06 No free action 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 13997 points, T:11874, killed by a soldier ant 16:07 eady, cuddly vanilla gelcube is fine, evilhack is a different story 16:07 And I mean none, I've fully identified every ring in the explored dungeon :-) 16:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:36405 16:08 yeah glad I could wish for one now 16:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Lungorthin, on T:36562 16:10 Is there some sort of deeper meaning to knights that go into the dungeon barefoot? 16:11 Nothing significant compared to their lack of pants 16:12 -!- Bliss56 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:14 <@microlance> they have no stirrups 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2249 16:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) was given Quicksilver, on T:37395 16:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:25329 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 83 points, T:288, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse 16:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2537 16:22 -!- k-man has joined #hardfought 16:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) stole 2087 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Glenbeigh's second-hand bookstore, on T:1703 16:24 Omigod, turn 34k and my priest learned a healing spell! 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 429 points, T:674, killed by a wand 16:31 Evil Patch Idea: when a lichen grabs ahold of you, it attaches itself to your armor or, if you aren't wearing any, to your skin. Every time you damage the lichen, it also damages (i.e., disenchants) your armor or, if you aren't wearing any, does the same amount of damage to you as to the lichen. 16:31 Also, if your pet attacks the lichen, same thing happens. 16:31 Whoever the lichen is "stuck to" gets their armor damaged or gets damaged. 16:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:27069 16:35 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 16:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4144 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 141 points, T:689, killed by a bear trap 16:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1674 16:38 !lastgame jww 16:38 Merlek: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jww/nethack/dumplog/1608073127.nh.html 16:41 microlance has DIRGE \o/ 16:45 * tinklebear looks up dirge on wiki... nods head... gets to evilhack section, eyes widen... 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5548 points, T:4643, killed by a bolt of fire 16:45 <{Demo}> awooga 16:46 zoinks 16:47 i should play evilhack only for the dirge meme 16:47 double acid damage is good 16:48 chaotic knight is fun to play 16:48 I should play Evilhack in general 16:48 yes. and you are green when you are mounted on your starting baby nightmare. I think that's a nice touch. 16:49 i played a few elven knights in spork 16:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:53217 16:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:53222 16:53 [hdf-us] [fh] sohlman (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 25988 points, T:1100, killed by a magic missile 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 5876 points, T:6898, killed by a leocrotta 16:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 660 points, T:2348, killed by a watchman 16:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6777 16:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:58 tinklebear: idgi 16:59 nightmare is a green h 16:59 er 16:59 green p ? 16:59 green u 16:59 lol 17:00 the nightmare hobbit 17:00 stenno: green R 17:01 K2: Does EvilHack have the green R from the biodiversity patch? 17:01 disintegrator? 17:01 hopefully not 17:01 those were insane in unnethack lmao 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:4248 17:02 disintegrators and antimatter vortices 17:02 good times 17:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:19383 17:03 they can 'dig' through anything by just walking against it 17:03 I should add them to Fourk. 17:03 Maybe only in challenge mode. 17:04 remember those dilapidated armories (sp?), in the deeper levels they would always spawn 1-2 disintegrators 17:04 <{Demo}> eady = jonadab? but why eady? 17:04 <{Demo}> cause you aren't ready? 17:04 {Demo}: Eady is my surname. 17:04 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Disintegrator 17:05 <{Demo}> has anyone ever made the "you aren't ready" joke before? 17:05 The system I'm currently connecting from is configured to use it because of reasons involving Evergreen. 17:06 (My usual system is disconnected from the internet right now because a really old Dell Optiplex with like a Pentium 90 in it, finally died, and I have to work out exactly what I am going to do instead.) 17:06 Umbire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Gawain_and_the_Green_Knight 17:06 Oooooooooooooh 17:06 Thank 17:09 <{Demo}> rip the old box 17:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8626 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:29544 17:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Arc Hum Mal Law), 22748 points, T:7743, killed by a triton, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] sohlman (Pri Elf Fem Law), 573 points, T:1037, killed by a little dog 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4837 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2518 17:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bau (Wiz Vam Mal Neu), 480 points, T:1434, died of starvation 17:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3120 17:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3252 17:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:30979 17:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Hob Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:37939 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:18916 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3205 points, T:6489, killed by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 17:28 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2781 points, T:3914, killed by a priestess of Brigit 17:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Hob Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class L), on T:37945 17:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Hob Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:37946 17:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had an apron entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:9390 17:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:32087 17:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:9616 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bliss56 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3278 points, T:4837, killed by a wolf 17:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 618 points, T:760, killed by a crossbow bolt 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 953 points, T:2343, killed by a riding accident 17:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law), 1302 points, T:2895, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:10443 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 10561 points, T:8095, killed by a spotted jelly 17:45 [backscroll] stenno: no 17:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Sam Hum Mal Law), 291 points, T:596, killed by a gnome lord 17:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:11343 17:49 microlance nice early Juiblex kill :-) 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:1154 17:52 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "oh no not again"] 17:53 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Val Mer Nbn Law), 1655 points, T:2731, killed by a poisonous corpse 17:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Con Hob Mal Cha) wished for "blessed mithril amulet of magical breathing", on T:38144 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 945 points, T:2066, killed by a rothe 17:55 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 17:56 [hdf-us] [4k] sohlman (Bar Dwa Mal Law) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1835 18:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12506 18:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bau (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2120 points, T:1432, killed by a garter snake, while fainted from lack of food 18:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1436 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2651 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3017 18:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:12729 18:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a quantum mechanic, on T:3043 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Bachelor, on T:3199 18:07 Uh, odd. Could've been far worse! 18:08 [hdf-us] [4k] sohlman (Bar Dwa Mal Law), 9870 points, T:2160, killed by a bolt of cold, while taking off clothes 18:08 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4060 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Aborigine, on T:4627 18:12 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4427 18:13 Actually a nice polyform, except it's (&(*^'ing difficult to kill enemies. 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:4536 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:30006 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:30008 18:15 daily notice that I hate horses 18:16 I do think that depending exactly how the amulet of flying works with pets, I think that centaurs actually may be the strongest steed 18:16 presuming they will quaff from a stack of healing potions? which I think they will? 18:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 7237 points, T:3645, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 18:17 ^^ A very promising game. :( 18:17 I was engulfed by teh gelatinous cube. Oddly enough, it seems when suffocated, you don't return to your true form. 18:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2579 18:18 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:30033 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2630 18:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:30041 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:30043 18:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +5 dragonhide boots of speed", on T:13159 18:29 -!- jonathanhanes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:30 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4026 points, T:3396, killed by a yeti 18:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:57629 18:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:37668 18:33 -!- spontiff has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:36 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 18:39 I'm neutral, Demonbane is Lawful... any chance I could get it as a sac gift? 18:40 I'm guessing not 18:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4123 18:40 bouquet, only by changing your alignment 18:40 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1530 points, T:3078, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:58187 18:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:58191 18:43 dang. Might have to wish it up later if I survive past yeeny 18:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:58229 18:45 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:46 bouquet, why do you want it, anyway? 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 834 points, T:1451, killed by becoming a döner kebab 18:46 even against demons Grayswandir would do more damage 18:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Herbalist, on T:58294 18:48 Some jerk summoned Yeenoghu on dlvl 8 and died. 18:49 I'm a weak ass-healer and would like to get south of dlvl8 without him summoning demogordon ramsey 18:49 no balls 18:49 my fruitname is "TOO SALTY!" 18:49 now you *have* to do something about it 18:49 :P 18:51 I'm thinking I'll use a /odig and zoom down before he can port over and harass me. 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3399 18:52 bouquet: is that so you get the message "My, that was a yummy TOO SALTY!"? 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1425 points, T:3402, killed by a black unicorn 18:54 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:54 once I'm out of this meeting I'm going to try and zoom past him if you want to see me potentially fail horribly. 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 6528 points, T:5470, poisoned by an orcish arrow 18:56 !booze 18:56 * Beholder tosses nabru a tumbler of blanco tequila, decanted by TheresaMayBot at 408 Kelvin. 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:308 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:309 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:311 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +3 gauntlets of power", on T:320 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 speed boots", on T:322 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof bag of holding", on T:325 18:58 yay 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a flaming sphere, on T:6473 18:59 very nice nabru 18:59 watch out for falling rocks lmao 18:59 heh 18:59 will try to wrest one last charge from that wand later 19:00 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/788918560855556146/unknown.png 19:01 <@luxidream> ^this too 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 448 points, T:1255, killed by a gnome lord 19:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:58513 19:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:58514 19:02 oi lux can you send me that thing about wizards again 19:02 i forgot to finish reading it 19:02 and im lazy to find it in history 19:02 <@luxidream> oh the reddit post? 19:02 ja 19:02 <@luxidream> lemme find it 19:03 <@nabru> !time 19:03 @nabru: Wed Dec 16 19:03:37 2020 EST 19:03 <@luxidream> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/319364697826787329/744028669260857344/unknown.png?width=714&height=463 19:07 thx 19:08 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4076 points, T:6807, killed by a gold golem 19:08 that's quite the wiz walkthrough 19:08 <@luxidream> it's uhhh 19:08 <@luxidream> questionable 19:09 some solid advice stattered about 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 321 points, T:776, killed by a giant bat 19:09 eyes of overworld is great. they got that right 19:09 <@luxidream> not for wizard lmao 19:10 yeah rebatela it makes no sense 19:10 lol 19:10 i didn't write it! 19:10 <@luxidream> haha 19:10 <@microlance> a nethack character never meeleing!?!?! 19:11 <@microlance> using pets!!? 19:11 hehe i know.. the pet will eat your food. i think he meant don't force bolt the monsters 19:11 <@luxidream> this was the top comment lol 19:11 who knows 19:11 <@luxidream> i hope op ascended a wizard eventually 19:11 lol 19:12 lmao 19:12 what's wrong with the eyes of the overworld for a wizard? 19:12 don't force bolt all the monsters, but don't force bolt the pet either or you'll starve 19:12 bhaak: it just doesnt add much to what you already have 19:12 waste of an artiwish 19:12 imo 19:12 bhaak: absolutely nothing and it's all they got right 19:12 wishes are plenty in vanilla and it helps with those darn mazes 19:13 rebatela: #3 they got righ 19:13 rebatela: #3 they got right* 19:13 <@luxidream> you have this spell called magic mapping 19:13 bhaak: wizard cast magicmapping 19:13 and det mon 19:13 lol 19:13 basically the yes 19:13 *eyes 19:13 <@luxidream> and detect treasure 19:13 yea or just clairvoyance 19:13 <@luxidream> no one uses clairvoyance spell 19:13 no i mean 19:13 when you have ammy 19:13 or bought it 19:14 when you got the amulet and have to rely on its clairvoyance, I wonder if you are on the ascension run or on a sight seeing tour 19:15 <@microlance> for wizards the only arti cool enough to wish for is the healer staff 19:15 Pray for for exclusively. 19:15 food* 19:15 <@luxidream> the half physical artifacts aren't totally useless 19:15 Does that mean only eat by prayer or only pray to eat? 19:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] dolores (Cav Hum Fem Law) reached Minetown, on T:2014 19:15 <@luxidream> but I don't bother outside of extreme circumstances 19:15 <@microlance> theyre nice ofc, but a healer staff is much cooler 19:16 <@microlance> and wizards dont even need the finding traps orb thingy 19:16 K2: new TNNT category? fast ascension run, from getting the amulet to dlvl 1 19:16 bhaak: its handy if you haven't mapped gehennom yet 19:16 which is common for minturn 19:16 for example 19:16 <@luxidream> idk do you not have mapping in minturn 19:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1452 19:17 aoei: but it's annoying having to wait for it to kick in? aren't you wasting turns then? 19:17 well 19:17 there's minturn and there's minturn lux 19:17 if im just doing a somewhat low-ish turncoutn barbrun 19:17 ill still map on the way up 19:17 and occasionally i'll spot stairs with clairvoyance and save a scroll 19:18 <@microlance> i always try to play minturn and most of the times totally without proper mapping. the frustration in gehennom is quite exquisite 19:18 bhaak: i wouldn't wait but might explore manually briefly 19:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:59968 19:20 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 19:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) stole 2580 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Budereyri's general store, on T:15539 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Dresser, on T:19815 19:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 127126 points, T:60232, escaped 19:27 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:27 if I appear on the level that yeenoghu is on he'll know right away even if I'm on the other side of the map? 19:28 luxidream: idk how they're having so much trouble finding food 19:29 they don't like Sokoban 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 195 points, T:587, killed by an electric shock 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Sergeant, on T:8485 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ninja, on T:3604 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3633 19:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5694 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:8672 19:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:15963 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful pony, on T:8951 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2553 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:2554 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 1348 points, T:2474, killed by a rothe 19:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:4730 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9375 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:2920 19:40 lol "let your pet kill everything" 19:40 i mean some of this isn't a totally terrible way to conservatively play wiz 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3089 19:41 <@nabru> getting your pet to kill everything sounds like rather of a chore 19:42 bouquet, yes 19:44 bouquet: What variant? 19:44 * Umbire is coincidentally trying to get Asmodeus's attention from the upstairs in the mobile vanilla port 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:12253 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:3871 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:3993 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class P, on T:3995 19:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Cen Fem Cha) had a cloth armor entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:36482 19:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "holy bag of holding", on T:5625 20:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "holy +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:5635 20:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:13514 20:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "the holy Orb of Fate", on T:5645 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bond697 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3498 points, T:7353, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5753 20:09 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #hardfought 20:10 -!- sebastia1toby has joined #hardfought 20:12 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2792 20:14 -!- sebastiantoby has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:5664 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3019 20:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Kni Elf Fem Cha), 161861 points, T:19166, choked on a lizard corpse 20:16 lol smoky potion wish and 2 magic lamps 20:16 <@microlance> woops, not smart eating a dragon on medusas island and then fighting her 20:17 <@nabru> !lastgame microlance 20:17 @nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1608153278.evil.html 20:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 0 points, T:9, killed by a fox 20:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:176 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Reconnoiterer, on T:14814 20:24 -!- NCommander has quit [*.net *.split] 20:24 -!- khoR has quit [*.net *.split] 20:24 -!- flgr has quit [*.net *.split] 20:24 -!- swegen has quit [*.net *.split] 20:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Law) had a pair of cloth speed boots entrusted to her by Ilmater, on T:1433 20:26 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15617 20:30 -!- NCommander has joined #hardfought 20:30 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 20:30 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 20:30 -!- swegen has joined #hardfought 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3689 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6758 20:35 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:35 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 20:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2472 20:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 2348 points, T:3990, killed by a snake 20:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 4292 points, T:4257, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Cen Fem Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:37494 20:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 15 points, T:144, killed by a bolt of fire 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Cen Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37523 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:7790 20:54 Test... 20:54 Just lag, then, hm. 20:54 soop Umbhy 20:54 soup alphabet 20:54 alphabety spaghetti > soup alphabet 20:55 Betty Vinetti's Alphabety Spaghetti 21:01 arms weak, knees are heavy, spaghetti on his sweater already, alphabety 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:8963 21:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:14315 21:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Gia Fem Cha) had a conical hat entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3693 21:02 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 21:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 4546 points, T:3871, zombified by a human zombie, while sleeping 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1218 21:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Hob Fem Neu) had a wooden thonged club entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:421 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Cen Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:38136 21:09 Hmm, I wonder if I can wish for a bone shield of reflection 21:09 Or rather, if I will *get* one when I wish for it 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2303 21:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:11843 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2553 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Ran Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3017 21:21 -!- spicycebolla has joined #hardfought 21:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Cen Fem Cha) had a heavy mace entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:38594 21:23 Thanks for giving me the junk mace after Demonbane, you senile old fart 21:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13963 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10753 21:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 1998 points, T:2989, killed by a blue dragon 21:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Cen Fem Cha) had an opera cloak entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:38699 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Bond697's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:3056 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed eitbo's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:3073 21:30 <@microlance> once upon a time you could wish for mithril shields of reflection that would function like small shields 21:30 <@microlance> then i kinda told K2 about it 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2844 points, T:3386, killed by a dwarf 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:17354 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:11697 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof fireproof +3 helm of brilliance", on T:11773 21:40 in case you were following along, I managed to dig past yeenoghu and have set up camp downstairs. 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:22771 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh4] Zoe (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 28561 points, T:1576, killed by a hobbit 21:57 -!- tonehack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Glasya, on T:41582 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "+2 blessed gray dragon scale mail named Medieval Times 'gray knight' costume", on T:17842 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 105 points, T:318, killed by a contaminated potion 22:00 Hope you can ascend this Neko-chan! 22:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Daemon, on T:41715 22:00 so far so good 22:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:03 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 22:07 Agggghh sea draggggon 22:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:42443 22:11 Are ya winning son? 22:11 (No, really, are you or did the fucker eat you) 22:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42599 22:14 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14 Wonder what the best non-breathing polymorph is to kill a sea dragon without destroying my crap 22:15 I guess the answer is always some kind of lich 22:16 Yeah, that seems p. default 22:17 Do sea dragons resist cold? 22:18 Probably, but I can still swing my mace 22:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 103757 points, T:15313, killed by a leocrotta zombie 22:19 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:22 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 22:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof boots of speed", on T:5625 22:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16723 22:32 [hdf-us] [ndnh] hearsegirl (Mon Inc Fem Cha), 1629 points, T:1628, killed by a wolf 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a killer bee corpse, on T:6530 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Cen Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire, on T:42082 22:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43627 22:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:43772 22:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 79337 points, T:19979, killed by a bolt of lightning 22:41 bleh, all your stuff exploding when you take lightning damage sucks so bad 22:44 D: 22:44 No bag? 22:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:43962 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:7302 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) murdered BARKY, his faithful large dog, on T:7302 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7303 22:53 idk what to do with all these dang monster cards 22:53 https://imgur.com/1HvHDx4.png 22:54 i mean i guess i can summon a grid bug 22:54 but why in the world would i 22:54 [hdf-us] [spl] hearsegirl (Val Ang Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1976 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbrad (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:10663 22:57 Ascend with it? 22:58 [hdf-us] [spl] hearsegirl (Val Ang Fem Law) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2403 22:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:8031 22:59 :P 23:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:29340 23:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Swn Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1042 23:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:45919 23:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Brd Swn Fem Cha) was given the Singing Sword, on T:1215 23:05 create a grid bug army 23:06 [hdf-us] [spl] hearsegirl (Val Ang Fem Law), 3491 points, T:2702, sent to the next life by a displacer beast 23:08 idk what to wish for if i get my lamp wish 23:12 Whatcha got now? 23:12 @aoei 23:13 [hdf-us] [spl] spicycat (Car Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3917 23:13 3 GDSM, +3 longsword, +3 shield, faded pall 23:13 no reflection yet 23:13 Which variant, which class? 23:13 but medusa might have [oR 23:13 valk neutral vanilla 370 23:13 +3 GDSM rather 23:13 Freeee action 23:13 im either gonna save it for a bit or wish for reflection tbh 23:14 <@luxidream> !whereis aoei 23:14 @luxidream: [hdf-eu] aoei [nh370]: (Val Hum Fem Neu) T:8611 The Dungeons of Doom level: 12 23:14 You doing twoweaponing? 23:14 Umbire: not at the moment 23:14 still got +3 shield 23:15 -!- Muadd has joined #hardfought 23:15 i could wish up Grays and switch to twoweapon maybe 23:15 only have luckstone luck tho atm 23:15 <@luxidream> just be boring and get a marker or something 23:15 ha i was thinking that too 23:15 then i can enchant my gear more before castle at least 23:15 i have tonal tho so thats nice 23:15 and a polykit 23:15 if you're gonna commit to twoweaponing in the future then shield of reflection 23:15 polykit is also rather nice 23:16 Umbire: yes good wish 23:16 a shield i can't use 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 9892 points, T:9564, quit 23:17 <@luxidream> you might still get one at medusa idk 23:17 wait what 23:17 oh wait no I'm cooked 23:17 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:17 I was thinking "if you're gonna commit to twoweaponing in the future then AMULET of reflection" 23:17 assuming soko gave you the bag 23:18 *otherwise*, shield of reflection 23:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Pestilence, on T:46284 23:18 though as Luxi just noted, Perseus might still be an option 23:18 so it then depends on how long you wanna hold out 23:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:46308 23:18 yeah indeed 23:18 which is why i might just wing it for now lol 23:18 Fair 23:18 i dont neeed to use the wish immediately 23:18 if i evne get it lol 23:18 I was talking politics with my mom atm and crossed a few wires 6_9 23:19 <@luxidream> helm of opposite alignment helps there :p 23:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Nob Dwa Mal Law), 7097015 points, T:46338, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NeroOneTrueKing/dnethack/dumplog/1591740911.dnh.txt 23:22 what wjy didn i get divine prot 23:22 does ti have to be exact 23:22 did i give too much 23:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 39 points, T:89, killed by a little dart 23:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Val Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a fire ant corpse, on T:9197 23:27 It has to be between 4*XL and 6*XL 23:27 * Umbire wonders how tenable a vegan valkyrie is 23:27 GG Nero!! 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 1532 points, T:1005, quit 23:31 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:20778 23:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:30002 23:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Scout, on T:20937 23:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9536 23:53 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:13350 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 5 points, T:121, killed by a contaminated potion 23:58 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]