00:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4266 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:22080 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 3239 points, T:5169, killed by a bugbear, while fainted from lack of food 00:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2641 00:12 <@Bau> is there a way to see item weight in nh3.7? 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3248 00:16 <@luxidream> @Bau no 00:19 mornin luxidream o/ 00:20 Bau you can do it if you calculate your carry cap, the weight of all your other items, and then pick up rocks or gems til you cross a burden threshold 00:20 but that's very very annoying 00:20 so nobody is going to do that 00:21 i did it once to find out if some gloves were GoP since those are heavier 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 708 points, T:1874, killed by an invisible gnome 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:34906 00:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bau (Kni Hum Mal Law), 627 points, T:1728, killed by a werejackal, while praying 00:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 4613 points, T:5861, killed by a hill orc, while praying 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:4590 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 594 points, T:1667, killed by a giant bat 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4769 00:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:35031 00:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Gia Fem Law), 622 points, T:2119, killed by a bolt of fire, while sleeping 00:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4940 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3018 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 8783 points, T:5219, petrified by a chickatrice 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:24430 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24430 00:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Cen Fem Cha), 5061 points, T:2862, killed by a spear 01:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Bau (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1266 01:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Val Gia Fem Law), 2009 points, T:2249, killed by a rothe, while sleeping 01:08 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 01:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a pair of riding gloves entrusted to her by Set, on T:865 01:13 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3398 01:30 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 01:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha) averted death (killed by the wrath of Set), on T:4447 01:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Gia Fem Cha), 7461 points, T:4447, killed by the wrath of Set, while helpless 01:34 -!- stenno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:35 <@luxidream> !lastgame 01:35 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Alex/nethack/dumplog/1608007216.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1608012522.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1607865020.nh.html 01:36 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:3489 01:41 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 1357 points, T:2565, zombified by a hobbit zombie 01:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 1429 points, T:1923, killed by a gnomish wizard, while sleeping 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3274 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3320 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger on an altar, on T:3325 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:3361 01:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 156 points, T:727, killed by a sewer rat 01:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 69 points, T:408, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 01:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 114 points, T:262, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 01:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Orc Fem Cha), 67 points, T:305, killed by a grid bug 02:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3250 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4085 02:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3927 02:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 188 points, T:1006, killed by a fox 02:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 46 points, T:131, killed by exhaustion 02:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 257 points, T:674, killed by a water moccasin 02:26 <@microlance> damn i thought for a second krm26 had ascended a evilhack convict using only the power of the balls of steel. but sadly it didnt seem like it 😦 02:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5011 points, T:5714, petrified by a chickatrice 02:30 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Mal Cha), 364 points, T:475, killed by a goblin 02:31 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 106 points, T:169, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted jackal 02:32 -!- fadein has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 192 points, T:1285, killed by a bat 02:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 190 points, T:708, killed by a sewer rat 02:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bau (Mon Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:828 02:46 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Hlf Fem Cha), 879 points, T:1512, killed by a snake 02:52 !tell krm26 congrats on the evilhack convict ascension! \o/ And it was rebatela who told you to go for a first combo;-) 02:52 No worries, mobileuser, I've got this! 02:54 -!- stenno1 has joined #hardfought 03:00 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Elf-Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:3161 03:10 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 03:12 -!- luxidream has quit [Client Quit] 03:12 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 03:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 27526 points, T:5179, killed by a mumak 03:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:26317 03:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:26580 03:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:26600 03:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:26673 03:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:26711 03:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:26758 03:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap (5 times), on T:26763 03:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hum Fem Cha), 10287 points, T:6841, killed by a watchman 03:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2015678 points, T:26809, ascended 03:44 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/nethack/dumplog/1607876774.nh.html 03:44 gratz elenmirie__ ! 03:44 thanks 03:44 the riders were a real pain this time 03:45 <@luxidream> 🎺 03:45 is the death buff live yet? 03:46 I don't think so, can't see omghax in the irl logs 03:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 765 points, T:1416, killed by a falling rock 03:50 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:51 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:54 -!- 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Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3961 04:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5 points, T:222, killed by a goblin 04:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha) had a steel knife entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:4235 04:21 luxidream: how's the scumming for a wand going now? 04:21 I got a 0:1 but then wasted too much time at castle and quit 04:22 looking for another one 04:22 ah what happened at the castle? 04:23 the soldiers in the towers got out and I had to go slow to avoid crushing the one with the chest 04:23 ah yuck 04:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 168 points, T:587, killed by a giant rat 04:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 30 points, T:293, killed by a sewer rat 04:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:37 <@microlance> hmm, how was it you equipped pets in evilhack 04:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha) had a large shield entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:7395 04:48 Oh, interesting. Minetown... With a desecrated temple, which is to moloch. 04:50 which variant arahael? 04:50 evil, it's microlance's bones. 04:50 Killed by the wrath of set. Right on the altar, of course. 04:50 microlance: extended command "give" 04:51 a desecrated temple to moloch is a known evilhack bug I think 04:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:5674 04:53 oh unless these are infidel bones 04:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5764 04:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2045 points, T:5854, killed by an orcish arrow 05:00 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:16 05:09 mobileuser: Oh? Could you elaborate? 05:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:10863 05:13 if it was a regular minetown (not orctown) there should be no altar to Moloch 05:13 unless an infidel converted the altar 05:14 It's not an infidel bones, though - this is a: microlance-Bar-Gia-Fem-Cha, killed by the wrath of Set, while helpless. 05:14 right, so it was probably the evilhack bug 05:14 sometimes altars suddenly become Moloch altars 05:14 Odd! 05:14 and the priest will NOT be happy :-) 05:16 The priest is fine. 05:16 Unless it suddenly became a moloch altar and that's why microlance was killed? 05:16 don't chat to the priest 05:16 then the priest will get angry 05:16 Oooh, interesting! 05:17 The priest did tell me it's a descreted temple when I walked in. Pretty sure the priest told me that. 05:17 Surely. 05:17 yeah 05:17 but if you start chatting the priest gets upset 05:17 Good to know. Also - weird. 05:18 that's the same in vanilla 05:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 219 points, T:518, killed by a carnivorous bag 05:19 I've never had the same circumstances in vanilla, except for that time I dropped scare monster and then chatted. 05:19 similar, but sometimes you get it with bone files 05:20 if your predecessor converted the altar 05:20 How would it happen, even with bones? 05:20 Ah, if they converted it to anything, without killing the priest? Doesn't have to be moloch? 05:20 predecessor converted the altar? 05:21 no, the thing with desecrated temples and angry priests is vanilla 05:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed microlance's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:2205 05:21 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/microlance/evilhack/dumplog/1608012522.evil.txt 05:21 Cool. :) 05:21 it looks like microlance was blind 05:22 The voice of Moloch booms out: "Suffer, infidel!" 05:22 The voice of Set booms: "Thou hast angered me." 05:22 double trouble :b 05:22 That must've been infuriating. 05:23 yeah I think the evilhack bug cost microlance that game 05:23 must have been expecting a normal Set altar 05:24 Hmm, maybe I should pop those boots on - although they're cursed. I've a cursed mithril helm on as well anyway. 05:25 yeah might as well shoot yourself in the foot if you've already got a wounded head 05:25 lol 05:25 Heh, actully on second thought, the boots are teh only blessed weapon I have. 05:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 604 points, T:1214, killed by an arrow 05:34 <@microlance> i saw the moloch altar but i thought i would be fine to convert 05:34 maybe your alignment was negative? 05:35 <@microlance> maybe, i had been killing guards 05:35 <@microlance> probably 05:35 yeah that comes with a huge alignment penalty 05:36 even as chaotic? 05:36 yes 05:36 <@microlance> the three-headed flail is base material bone. i guess i cant make a silver one to hold me over until i can try to do a real convict ball run 05:36 a wish? 05:36 <@microlance> maybe, i think ill just get dsm 05:37 <@microlance> but i wanted to try something cool 05:38 <@microlance> i also put on a helm of opp align, so i might do some saccing see if i get something cool before deciding if i want to go full ball 05:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bau (Mon Hum Mal Law), 605 points, T:1536, killed by a rothe 05:38 hobbit convict? 05:38 Intriguing. :) 05:40 Interesting - microlance, that's now a double-bones. I went back, then something blinded me, then a nymph stole a bunch of well, everything, including hte wand of lightening i took from you, then it looks like it zapped me with it. 05:40 Might not have been a nymph. 05:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 4185 points, T:2678, killed by a bolt of lightning, while taking off clothes 05:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:2547 05:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12487 05:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4304 05:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 443 points, T:629, killed by a bolt of cold 05:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered Catnip, his faithful kitten, on T:378 05:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Law) had a knife entrusted to her by Ilmater, on T:15174 05:51 <@microlance> hobbit convict is good 05:51 <@microlance> the speed and searching is nice if you somehow dont starve to death early 05:52 <@microlance> okay only a regular knife i dont think ill bother saccing for an arti 05:53 [hdf-us] [fh] Mip (Bau) (Mon Hum Mal Law), 5351 points, T:14, quit 05:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Law), 41700 points, T:15525, killed by a troll 05:54 <@microlance> noo 05:54 :-( 05:54 nooooooo rip 05:55 that was a promising convict :-( 05:56 -!- stennowork has joined #hardfought 06:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 1094 points, T:2062, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a potion 06:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3120 points, T:6501, killed by a dwarf 06:09 -!- luxidream has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:10 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 126 points, T:1106, killed by a sewer rat 06:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 1944 points, T:3019, killed by a giant mosquito 06:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Val Dwa Fem Law), 413495 points, T:20028, quit 06:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Con Hob Fem Cha), 0 points, T:10, killed by a fox 06:14 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:17 huh 06:17 why the valk quit? 06:17 of teamsplay? 06:17 isn't that the teamsplat robin acct 06:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] teamsplay (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1611 06:23 <@microlance> why are these fucking electric lighters so fucking bad. they last for like a week while a proper bic lighter works for months 06:23 only buy BIC if possible 06:24 actually i bought an electric lighter in vienna three weeks ago and its still working 06:24 <@microlance> the problem is my closest store only has the electric shit 06:24 buy a 100-pack off amazong :D 06:24 <@microlance> i have to travel some kms to get proper lighters 06:25 https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/741D913A-EECF-4DA9-BF5B-99166D2C7104 06:27 <@microlance> i suspect they went over to these lighters because theyre not as attractive to steal 06:27 stennowork: yes we decided together ascending another valk was boring 06:27 thus quit and reroll 06:27 hah ok 06:27 and now orc wiz? 06:27 rnjeesus said orc barb 06:28 ah barb 06:28 well thats a bit more interesting 06:28 a little more haha 06:28 let rngesus take the wheel 06:28 slightly more inteeresting 06:28 still kinda standard fighter 06:28 we have a tele wand and a striking wand 06:28 an id scroll 06:28 a mattock 06:28 a scroll that's either enchant something or remove curse 06:28 still got starting 2h-sword but it's rusty 06:28 so is armour 06:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Elf Fem Cha) had a wormwood staff entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:2490 06:29 the ol' trusty rusty 06:29 i like fighting with mattock as barb 06:29 altho i nearly died earlier before i could hit accurately with it lol 06:30 gnome lord nearly did me in cuz i kept missing 06:30 it oneshots all the gnomes and dwarves normally 06:30 but you have to actually hit 06:30 Hmph, useless gift. 06:30 Staff of divination. 06:31 getting to minetown took me like 10 min 06:31 i think 06:31 could probably do that a lot faster 06:31 but 06:36 i am thinking about either playing variants or doing some more 3.7 06:36 i wanna win paci for once 06:36 foodless sounds much more trivial 06:36 maybe i try foodless first 06:37 with a wizard who _doesnt_ start with =oSD because thats boring 06:37 zen conduct 06:37 permahallu 06:37 sounds pretty boring tbf 06:38 boring?? 06:38 is zen even conduct, or is it a game mode 06:38 oh are you saying it's so easy that you'd be bored? 06:38 too much of a man to stoop so low? 06:38 zen is permablind 06:38 :^) 06:38 zen is a conduct 06:39 but it is kinda like a game mode in a way too 06:39 you set it in options 06:39 1H conduct. Can only wear amulet, hat, a 1H weapon OR a shield, read scrolls, zap, and quaff. No reading spellbooks, no other armor, no writing. 06:39 krm26: Message from mobileuser at 2020-12-15 02:52 EST: congrats on the evilhack convict ascension! \o/ And it was rebatela who told you to go for a first combo;-) 06:39 old school zen was you start as sam or something and wear your blindfold from turn 1 06:39 and it wasn't officially tracked iirc 06:39 so its proper conduct, hmm 06:39 is proper conduct now 06:40 :) 06:40 so if i wanted to do full monty i'd have to zen too? 06:40 i suppose 06:40 guess you can do permahallu and zen at the same time 06:40 do it 06:40 plus permadeaf 06:40 no, i want to try paci first 06:40 Zen conduct is not only vaguely achievable but it is fun 06:40 stennowork | guess you can do permahallu and zen at the same time 06:40 looooool 06:41 I remember a quote from BilldaCat 06:41 Thinking about pacifist conduct gives me hives 06:41 aoei, gotta be pragmatic 06:41 yeah I decided to try permahallu with zen 06:41 I figured im already blind how bad could it be? 06:41 pretty bad. 06:41 ^ 06:41 i wonder if someone put that in qdb actually 06:41 thats just from my memory 06:41 zen permahallu permadeaf foodless nudist when 06:42 was permahallu won? 06:42 in vanilla? 06:42 -!- krm26_ has joined #hardfought 06:42 er somebody tried last year im not sure if they were successful 06:43 nudist would be a fun thing to try 06:43 seems not too terrible 06:43 pff you just want to expose yourself 06:43 i guess it requires artiwishing for most roles for slotless mr 06:43 slotless mr? 06:44 what slotless mr+ 06:44 didnt they ruin all of those 06:44 well armorslot-less 06:44 so basically the Eye 06:44 or the Sceptre 06:44 no, can't use eye 06:44 why not 06:44 does jewellery count 06:44 because ammy slot is reflection 06:44 oh right 06:44 unless you have Dragonbane? 06:44 that's reflection now 06:45 oh yeah that would work too 06:45 Sceptre plus "oR or Dragonbane plus the Eye 06:45 pyec is truly slotless for enutral 06:45 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:45 chaotic just suffer 06:45 gotta use MB or so 06:45 heh yeah 06:45 so there is still one MR when carried arti 06:46 dragonbane and MB wont be stolen by rodney so thats nice 06:46 oh and the magic mirror of merlin 06:46 stennowork: true 06:46 yeah mmom for laful 06:46 loool i kinda wanna try nudist now too 06:47 if you get enough gold your AC won't be horrible 06:47 it's okay 06:47 -!- krm26_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:47 also half phys/half magical damage artis 06:47 so maybe valk 06:47 yeah 06:47 valk wishing for mmom with "oR 06:47 finallly!!! 06:47 an interesting way to play valk 06:47 how to get protection 06:47 MC 06:47 MC is unnecessary 06:47 ring of protection 06:48 mmon and "oR you can still have Excal for drain res 06:48 3.7.0 has ammy of guarding now too but.. then you dont have "oR anymore 06:48 believe me, you will constantly suffer without any MC 06:48 ROFL 06:48 MC2 is fine 06:48 stennowork: i've ascended with titan and minotaur as my main polyforms 06:48 don't need MC3 06:48 its doable 06:49 i think i had maybe prot ring for MC1 sometimes 06:49 but still 06:49 prot ring + divine prot is mc2 06:49 yeah that's not too bad i guess 06:49 imagine being the high priest and the last thing you see is a naked maniac running at you pointing a stick 06:50 but i've done minturn runs with no MC at all 06:50 you have to be careful about some things but its really not as bad as you think 06:50 what do you need the MC for stenno? 06:51 i fucked up bad once at Medusa with the amulet tho 06:51 electric eel is an MC check 06:51 you don't want to go near one of those 06:51 they're entirely avoidable 06:51 destroyed all sorts of stuff i needed ruined my run 06:51 yeah the're avoidable 06:51 green slime comes to mind immediately 06:51 i was just dumb 06:51 stennowork: they're also slow and avoidable 06:51 green slimes are slow af 06:51 if you're realtime speedrunning maybe you dont notice them quickly enough 06:51 that's legit 06:51 but then you have MC for sure lol 06:51 guardian naga paralysis 06:51 free action 06:51 they're not that common 06:52 also likely avoidable 06:52 same deal with shades 06:52 just conflict and run awya from them 06:52 amateurhour, you have literally two ring slots 06:52 yeah and one of them should be free action as para = death with that ac 06:52 and the other one protection for MC? 06:52 hmmm yeah probably conflict+free action for most things 06:52 so no conflict, no levi? 06:52 no I'm saying MC isn't important 06:52 stennowork: you have other ways to flly 06:52 excal for drain res, what else is there? 06:53 potions for example 06:53 levi is usually only a temporary need 06:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 861 points, T:2003, burned by molten lava 06:53 nudist gives you loads of options for polyself if you get a polykit too 06:53 that's pretty sweet 06:53 nah polyselfless 06:53 pfffff why make the game more boring 06:53 with polyself its too boring 06:53 its not boring its more fun and varied 06:54 its not like having a polykit solves all yor uproblems by magic in a nudist game 06:54 it does mean you have a lot more options for how you can play 06:54 and that's super cool 06:54 it is marginally harder if you do nudist polyselfless i guess, and a pretty legit conduct combi 06:54 but i don't think polyselfless makes nudist boring 06:54 er 06:55 i dont think polyself makes it boring 06:55 im thinking about trying nudist orc wiz 06:55 because wizards are the queens/kings of polyself 06:56 mkot wish would also mean i have both half damage things 06:56 no MR artifact though 06:56 unless you wear the eye 06:56 magicbane 06:56 and "oR 06:56 oh yeah 06:56 nice 06:56 yeah that's gonna be awesome 06:56 i should finish my neutral valk and try for that 06:57 could do elf wiz i guess too but like 06:57 i've done so many elf wizards 06:57 * arahael is currently doing an elf monk. 06:57 and after lux going on about how much he loves or cwiz 06:57