00:02 [hdf-us] [fh] sohlman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 29204 points, T:1852, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt, while stuck in monster form, in polyinit mode 00:05 [hdf-us] [fh] sohlman (Mon Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring", on T:1 00:06 [hdf-us] [fh] sohlman (Mon Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet", on T:3 00:07 [hdf-us] [fh] sohlman (Mon Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring", on T:4 00:09 -!- AntiGulp has quit [Quit: *dissolves into golden butterflies*] 00:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:23851 00:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:23864 00:16 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 00:22 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:58848 00:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:24357 00:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:24358 00:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:24647 00:36 gogogo! 00:40 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 00:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:24832 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a marilith, on T:16916 00:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:25010 00:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:25011 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:3, killed by a falling object 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:4, killed by a falling object 00:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:25024 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Sam Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:3, killed by a falling object 00:47 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:25141 00:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:25145 00:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:25568 01:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 41 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:25928 01:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:26090 01:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 88 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:26168 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:59338 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:22954 01:11 How can you hold a conversation when you cannot hear? 01:11 Should be: 01:11 How can you hold a conversation when you cannot... hear, Mr. Anderson? 01:11 :) 01:11 there is no spoon 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful ochre jelly, on T:59358 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:23134 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:23136 01:16 [hdf-us] [fh] sohlman (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 44571 points, T:4261, killed by a tiger, in explore mode 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:42356 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Inf Ith Fem Una), 113 points, T:88, killed by a newt, while praying 01:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) stole 533 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Lahinch's second-hand bookstore, on T:27077 01:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:27139 01:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:27190 01:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:27347 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Con Hob Mal Cha), 136 points, T:592, killed by a fox 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 3347893 points, T:59414, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Thidwick/nethack/dumplog/1607053380.nh.html 01:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:27393 01:32 oh god 01:32 top and bottom flipped in astral lol 01:32 thats a new one 01:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:27401 01:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:27459 01:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:27503 01:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1154896 points, T:27518, ascended 01:36 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1607650351.nh.html 01:36 <@luxidream> 🥳 01:36 3-streak 01:36 number 7 01:36 6 more to go 01:36 next will be either orc wiz or gno hea 01:37 <@luxidream> that was pretty fast 01:37 idk 01:37 6 hours or so 01:38 grats stenno 01:38 thx 01:38 man fucking priest ruined my asc ratio 01:38 <@luxidream> 4:57:27 01:38 ok 01:38 surprisingly quick 01:40 i have like, 2 wins, 1 death, 2 wins, 8 deaths (pri), 3 wins 01:42 <@luxidream> I used to think priest was top tier and cav sucked 01:42 <@luxidream> how wrong I was 01:42 orc wiz or gno hea next 01:42 pri is really really good if it starts with the right spells 01:42 but you cannot really rely on it lol 01:42 (and is not chaotic) 01:43 <@luxidream> i think elf priest with a scare tool may be best priest 01:43 <@luxidream> so I don't agree with you there 01:43 kinda failed the pri one, i could have done it much better 01:43 oh yeah one of those got double-turned by a mino at the castle 01:44 well its all about artiwishes right 01:44 lawful gets som, neutral gets staff 01:44 and infinite loot at the quest 01:44 <@luxidream> Hm, I just use the crowning weapon on everyone and don't artiwish 01:45 <@luxidream> unless I get something better from sacrificing of course 01:45 when i hacked through votd with basic +3 stormy i wondered if i did any damage at all 01:45 SoM gives you conflict 01:46 save a ring slot and potential wish/polypile 01:46 You see here an ebony wand (for sale, 600 zorkmids). 01:47 hah 01:47 staff gives life drain like stormy but you can go up to expert, also the invoke is awesome 01:47 K2: what charisma? 01:47 vanilla? 01:47 <@luxidream> !who 01:47 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu), 3921 points, T:4352, eliminated by Kostchtchie, while being terrified of a demon 01:47 @luxidream: [hdf-us] asus [evil] k2 [evil] tinklebear [nh370] dbanethacker [nh370] Alex [nh370] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 01:47 600 is not a valid price for 500 wand i think 01:47 9 cha orcish shopkeep 01:47 evi 01:47 l 01:47 <@luxidream> wand of nothing 01:47 ok 01:47 <@luxidream> bet 01:47 yup lol 01:47 it was wand of nothing 01:48 wand of nothing costs 500? 01:48 my one true EPI i added to evilhack 01:48 nice 01:48 i like it though 01:48 wands of nothing cost same as death/wishing 01:48 <@luxidream> nah it is net benefit 01:48 <@luxidream> now you can sell nothing for heaps of money 01:48 right 01:49 welp i owe this shopkeeper 150 zorkmids that dont have 01:49 @luxidream you really have to embrace the artis lol 01:49 usage fee 01:49 <@luxidream> stenno: the earlygame is a lot easier if you sacrifice for artifacts 01:49 <@luxidream> I don't really care about my damage output after castle 01:50 this orc ranger literally needed to get crowned for stormy 01:50 i did it after quest 01:50 i one-shot Death with the longbow, was pretty epic 01:51 i can see how you save a wish 01:51 sac/crowning gifts are good enough 01:51 but when you have OP artifacts you need less resources altogether and you are also faster 01:52 <@luxidream> in a normal game I'd rather wish for a poly wand 01:52 ok, i decided next will be orc wiz 01:52 <@luxidream> in almost all circumstances 01:53 hm 01:53 polywand is always a good wish 01:53 but i like being able to deal with enemies quickly 01:53 not get drawn into long tanky fights 01:54 <@luxidream> but yeah I usually avoid artiwishing because I often spend time in the early game sacrificing for something more usable 01:54 lol this one started with +oID 01:54 'more usable' 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:24519 01:56 oh wow bigass shop 01:56 4 mimics 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24602 01:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3478 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3570 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3576 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16790 02:04 hmm should i go combat wombat 02:06 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 02:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1870 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3876 02:14 In what context o: 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1996 points, T:3929, killed by a dwarf 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) stole 200 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Budereyri's general store, on T:25588 02:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Con Hob Mal Cha), 8994 points, T:4197, killed by a watchman, while unconscious from rotten food 02:17 boooo 02:18 do i not skill if my weapon is cursed or hat 02:19 !lastgame k2 02:19 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1607668286.evil.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/dnethack/dumplog/1587912127.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/dnethack/dumplog/1587911402.dnh.txt 02:21 gnite all 02:21 <@luxidream> 💤 02:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:22 -!- Umbire_ has joined #hardfought 02:22 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:50207 02:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4716 02:44 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 02:48 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:50 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 02:54 stenno: AIUI, a cursed weapon per se should not matter, but a negative enchantment does. Hits will only train a skill when they inflict at least some minimal amount of damage 02:54 yeah it was -3 02:55 ooph 02:55 "was". guess that's good news, then. 02:55 yeah 02:56 <@luxidream> in that case it would actually never train right? 02:56 <@luxidream> err, actually elven daggers do d5 02:57 looks like there's a -2 damage penalty for Unskilled use 02:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7526 02:57 well it trained a bit 02:58 i got basic after a very long time 02:58 empirical evidence! 02:59 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 02:59 i am such a combat wombat lol 03:00 -6 AC with GoP, dwarf mithril and [oRefl 03:00 oh and +2 [oP 03:01 Stenno the Fighting Thaumaturge 03:01 man i want an altar so bad 03:02 I mean you're an Orcish wish, you could actually make it happen 03:02 wiz** 03:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:05 "You pass right over a web" 03:05 kind of weird 03:06 more fortunate than "You clothesline yourself on a web. DYWYPI?", of course. 03:09 Probably means you're either whirly/unsolid or an actual spider 03:09 among a few other possibilities 03:09 -!- Umbire_ is now known as Umbire 03:09 * Umbire shrugs 03:10 Just an orc in jump boots, turns out. 03:10 altar~~~ 03:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9986 03:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:11432 03:22 -!- Zertrin has quit [Quit: 0096 2251 2110 8105] 03:24 -!- Zertrin has joined #hardfought 03:25 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:66525 03:29 schleep 03:29 gn 03:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:14367 03:53 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:95699 03:54 [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:95700 04:00 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:17277 04:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed master key of thievery", on T:17346 04:11 -!- spicycat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:17750 04:19 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 04:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:19004 04:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:19039 04:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Dwa Fem Law), 10670 points, T:12339, quit 04:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:20390 04:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20392 04:52 should i really write +oMagicMap 04:53 its 50 charges, right? 04:53 <@luxidream> 25-49 04:53 ok ok 04:54 40 for me, ok 04:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:20889 05:01 <@luxidream> why you writing magic mapping scrolls 🙃 05:01 wait i can _cast_ magic mapping 05:01 yeah 05:02 hmm 05:02 no FR 05:02 red dragon 05:02 convenient 05:03 <@luxidream> you didn't crown for finger of death? 05:03 nope 05:03 <@luxidream> nice to have 05:03 <@luxidream> too much training though 05:03 i guess 05:03 man how long will i be satiated 05:06 no reason to wear the Eye really 05:06 "oLS is more important i think 05:08 "oLS is just a crutch just don't die 4head 05:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:21800 05:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:21801 05:08 oshi- 05:09 'you feel very stupid' 05:09 <@luxidream> full healing is a crutch just don't get low on HP 4head 05:09 You sit on the opulent throne. You feel smart! 05:09 sounds great luxidream, I don't understand why people do that 05:10 <@luxidream> I just think it's silly when people say that aols doesn't do anything 05:10 yeah, timeless full heal is great 05:15 man i want teleportitis 05:15 actually what i _really_ want is wand of polymorph 05:16 maybe imma wish one up 05:16 mainly for rings 05:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:22430 05:23 how's scumming for a wand going luxidream? 05:24 gratz on the sub 1h explore mode game! 05:27 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 05:30 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: "RIP"] 05:31 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:32 <@luxidream> haven't started yet 05:32 <@luxidream> probably after finals week next wekk 05:32 ooh, good luck with your studies 05:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:22638 05:34 <@luxidream> thanks 🙂 05:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:22650 05:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3284 05:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4236 05:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:4236 05:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:23077 05:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Estyn (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4330 05:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:23330 05:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:23439 05:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:23449 05:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:23464 05:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:23484 05:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:23635 05:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:23637 05:59 !PoM 05:59 APic: The moon is waning crescent; new moon in 2 days. 06:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 415 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24085 06:04 <@luxidream> not even 420 zm? 06:04 <@luxidream> smh my head 06:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 366 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24139 06:06 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 06:06 is that a bug 06:06 there is nothing on the upstairs 06:06 i noticed that for asmo upstairs quite sometimes already 06:07 <@luxidream> i think it behaves like wiztower 06:07 oh ok 06:08 <@luxidream> so I can teleport to stairs if I'm outside of the "lair" area 06:08 right 06:08 <@luxidream> but if I'm inside I get "sorry" 06:08 <@luxidream> might be a bug 06:12 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24484 06:21 err why did i only write 3 gold detection 06:25 <@luxidream> !whereis stenno 06:25 @luxidream: stenno is not playing. 06:25 short break 06:26 work call 06:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:25183 06:35 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:35 -!- Dracunos_ has joined #hardfought 06:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:25336 06:38 yay go stenno! 06:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided class g, on T:25407 06:40 -!- star_cloud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:25429 06:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:25441 06:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1049284 points, T:25460, ascended 06:41 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1607669642.nh.html 06:41 yay first altar! 06:41 holy crap people 06:41 first 4-streak ever 06:42 congrats stenno! 06:42 :D 06:42 thx thx thx 06:42 <@luxidream> 🥳 06:42 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 06:42 <@luxidream> 🎺 🎺 🎺 🎺 06:42 after 10-ish years :D 06:42 fucking 4-streak 06:42 praise 3.7 06:43 is that the proof that 3.7 is too easy? :D 06:44 <@luxidream> still harder than 3.4.3 06:45 I'm on a no-streak 06:45 actually harder than 3.6.x if you consider ?oSM nerf 06:46 8 done, 5 to go 06:46 next is gno hea 06:46 i was lucky to start with +oID 06:46 <@luxidream> maybe take a break? 06:46 and then i did some brutal combat wombat action 06:46 <@luxidream> how long have you been playing 06:46 yeah i take a break now 06:46 ~15 hours i think 06:46 4 ascensions in that time 06:47 hm must be a bit longer then 06:47 maybe 16 or 17 06:47 <@luxidream> 3h 45 per ascension? 06:48 the first one was already a running game so i guess it doesn't count 06:48 dunno where i picked up there 06:48 maybe castle 06:48 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +7 ring of polymorph control", on T:1057 06:49 * stenno checks ttyrec 06:49 aw damn, i missed loads of scro llba ck 06:50 znc not configured right 06:50 votd 06:50 -!- star_cloud has quit [Excess Flood] 06:50 also grats stenno :D 06:51 no wait thats the cav already 06:51 thx 06:51 so, 3 ascensions 06:53 gratz stenno 06:53 next one will be gno healer, i hope i start with 5pw lol 06:53 thx :D 06:53 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 06:53 and the rest is monk, sam, barb, valk 06:53 doable :P 06:54 the fun ones 06:54 elf priest _really_ ruined my asc ratio ffs 06:54 it happens 06:55 [hdf-eu] [slex] zikan (Off Red Mal Law), 577 points, T:610, killed by a crossbow bolt 06:55 well to be fair, if i could every game in december, its a bit worse because i also splatted some knights 06:55 i guess i should count all games and not the ones starting with my first asc 06:55 <@luxidream> buff knight 06:56 how would you buff them? 06:57 <@luxidream> reasonable amount of starting con 06:57 <@luxidream> that's probably it lol 06:57 15 games before my first knight ascension FailFish 06:58 <@luxidream> it's ok no one cares what happens in between streaks 06:58 maybe i run elf pri and kni again after i finished the remaining 5 06:59 man oh6 has like a million 3.7 ascensions already 06:59 <@luxidream> oh that's why knight stats suck so much 06:59 <@luxidream> they start with 17 charisma nonrandomized 07:00 lmao 07:00 knight starting stuff is pretty powerful 07:00 stenno: yeah but they can't use it for shit :P 07:00 i hate knight 07:00 <@luxidream> picks up 1 potion 07:00 <@luxidream> your movements are slowed slightly by your load 07:00 i throw away lance and also the body armor when i find leather or mithril 07:00 knights are entitled brats when they start. good gear, high charisma, complete weaklings 07:00 riding is so cool though 07:00 so super fast 07:00 faster than speed boots i think? 07:01 mobileuser: yeah they also start with cash lol 07:01 from mummeh and daddeh 07:01 yup 07:01 posh pricks 07:01 <@luxidream> wait they start with money? 07:01 [hdf-eu] [slshm] zikan (Val Hum Fem Law), 397 points, T:1219, killed by a little dog 07:01 yeah lux iirc 07:01 <@luxidream> I don't think so 07:01 nope 07:01 they don't? 07:01 but with apples 07:01 nvm then 07:01 oh 07:01 i thought they had cash too 07:01 which means you can rob all the stores 07:01 which amounts to about the same 07:01 <@luxidream> tou and hea start with money 07:01 lots of apples :-) 07:01 lol 07:02 store robbing needs to be nerfed man 07:02 <@luxidream> too tedious :/ 07:02 stenno: well, for some players maybe 07:02 not sure how, but like this, if you get tripe, you can steal all the shit 07:02 what lux said lopl ^ 07:02 its the reason i dont do it 07:02 its not _that_ tedious and in exchange you get all the items and all the money 07:02 fair exchange imo 07:02 good start into the game 07:03 pony speed 16, horse speed 20, warhorse speed 24 07:03 maybe to you it is not too tedious 07:03 for me it is a death sentence 07:04 the most dire thing to contemplate 07:04 with high apport it's really quick as well 07:04 so 16 is as fast as a fast player 07:04 <@luxidream> still traumatized from when I was a new player from robbing a shop for 30 minutes only to die in the next five 07:04 lol lux 07:04 horse is as fast as very fast player 07:04 idk amateurhour i just find it too annoying 07:04 so good 07:04 but i find pets too annoying in general pettype:none ftw 07:04 @luxidream sure that might happen 07:05 i used to abandon pets, now i exploit the shit out of them lol 07:05 in the early game 07:05 <@luxidream> yeah I understand it's a good thing to do 07:05 <@luxidream> if you're streaking you definitely need pets 07:05 hmm, i will have to keep that in mind if i try to make good on my promise to try streaking 07:05 orc starts with tripe sometimes even 07:05 tou also starts with tripe sometimes 07:05 gno ran(?) can start with tripe too i think 07:06 <@luxidream> orc ran 07:06 <@luxidream> replaces cram with tripe 07:06 hm no 07:06 yeah 07:06 <@luxidream> hm yes 07:06 'hm no' as in, gno ran doesn't start with tripe :P 07:06 when they made petless a conduct in tnnt i couldnt help myself 07:06 had to start making sure to only pactify dangerous tamables 07:06 with the "wrong" food 07:06 i have a few petless ascensions in tnnt too 07:07 because i love conducts too much lol 07:07 has anyone done that old devnull challenge of a 13 streak, all roles, at least one of each conduct? 07:07 learned to love them during my games 07:07 amateurhour: that is insane 07:07 full monty wbo 07:07 marvin has it 07:07 only player 07:07 tariru, maud and qp have it without bells on 07:07 <@luxidream> tone was trying for it this year 07:07 :O 07:08 is without bells on without the conduct req? 07:08 <@luxidream> unfortunately made an error during the pacifist game 07:08 without bells is not in a streak 07:08 ah damn :/ 07:08 hey you guys should i play nethack today 07:08 yes 07:08 ok then 07:08 full monty automatically gives you legend status 07:08 <@luxidream> !rng nethack | no nethack | other 07:08 @luxidream: nethack 07:08 godo bot 07:08 good even 07:08 does it have to be within a month as well? 07:08 the bot is wise 07:08 amateurhour: yes, during devnull 07:10 that's insane 07:10 <@luxidream> i still don't know how to play paci 07:10 amateurhour: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki//dev/null/nethack_tournament#Recognition 07:10 me neither luxidream 07:10 @luxidream me neither 07:10 i know the strats 07:10 i tried it a bit years ago 07:10 just don't hit anything 4head 07:10 easy 07:10 with not much success 07:10 strats are probably different in 3.7 07:10 <@luxidream> what changes affect paci in particular 07:10 MPR used to play paci and complained its impossible now with the kiting nerf 07:10 Elbereth 07:11 but i say he just needs to get more creative 07:11 and maybe he complained about Elbereth too idk 07:11 actually i like Elbereth a lot how it is now 07:11 seems well-balanced 07:11 <@luxidream> do you still need elbereth in gehennom 07:11 in gehennom you should be OP already 07:11 <@luxidream> for paci 07:12 <@luxidream> because that and planes are the only places it was removed 07:12 OP armour and a pet Archon 07:12 you should be fine i gues 07:12 luxidream you cannot perma-E anymore 07:12 idk 07:12 certain actions will smudge perma-E now 07:12 <@luxidream> fire wand is pretty close 07:12 well just gotta try 07:12 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:12 isnt it still perm unless you attack 07:13 which pacifist shouldn't be doing anyway :P 07:13 well not just attack 07:13 i think it smudges too if i cast healing on my pet 07:13 attack or cast/zap offensive wands/spells etc.? 07:13 stenno: are yo usure about that? 07:13 because i doubt it 07:13 <@luxidream> don't think so 07:13 <@luxidream> I was able to cast healing on E 07:13 i will wiztest right now 07:14 <@luxidream> notably the drawbridge doesn't count though 07:14 <@luxidream> 🙂 07:14 haha yeah 07:14 at that point you should have archon already anywy 07:14 that probably does break paci tho? you get xp for it, so it must do 07:14 gno hea, protection racket, get minetown archon wish 07:15 even though i heard that sdsm could be first wish too 07:15 drawbridge most def. breaks paci 07:15 if you're lucky get 2 minetown wishes 07:15 woud be a bug if it didn't 07:15 i'd still do archon first i guess 07:15 <@luxidream> dicey to do in a streak 07:15 you even have a new way to get XP 07:15 <@luxidream> since the archon can kill you 07:16 reading discworld books 07:16 @luxidream 07:16 casting healing on my archon did not smudge fire-E in 3.6.6 07:16 sure, but when will you OP enough to deal with an archon while staying pacifist 07:16 maybe start with charm monster as wiz? 07:16 <@luxidream> when you have items to gtfo 07:16 yeah doing paci as part of a streak is tricky 07:16 yeah you need escape 07:16 <@luxidream> it will resist 07:16 you cant tame archon ever 07:17 no i mean how to stay pacificst until you are OP enough to deal with archon 07:17 you don't 07:17 your starting pet will die soon 07:17 you have a means to gtfo as luxi said 07:17 and gtfo fast 07:18 could do it in a coaligned temple 07:18 will he still cast shit on you while fleeing? 07:18 <@luxidream> have I mentioned I don't like discworld books 07:18 might still summon 07:18 mp 07:18 <@luxidream> I want the book that should've been there dangit 07:18 3.4.3 paci strat was to get XP via oracle consultation 07:18 but now discworld books give XP too 07:19 and foocubi dancing i guess right? 07:19 <@luxidream> 20 xp 07:19 <@luxidream> it's not enough for a level past 3 07:19 oof 07:19 those books suck 07:19 <@luxidream> so I don't think it makes much of a difference 07:20 <@luxidream> you can't even read more novels for more xp, it's only the first one 07:20 oh really 07:20 damn 07:20 thats even more shit 07:20 i think we need to speak to the devteam about this 07:20 so in oracle you get major first 07:21 21 HP 07:21 ok i see 07:21 er nope that was minor 07:21 major is 51 07:22 so 07:22 ah damn, ok 07:23 hm actually 07:23 you read book, get XL 2 07:25 i don't understand this table lol 07:25 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_Oracle#Consultations 07:26 first consolutation bought Major, and then the next column is major/minor? 07:26 so you buy major first, get 50+(5*XL), and then get 2 for the minor? 07:26 <@luxidream> 55+30 = 80 = xl 3 07:27 <@luxidream> >= 80 07:27 why 30 07:28 <@luxidream> oh I am dumb 07:28 i see the 55 but not the 30 07:28 isn't it 55 + 2 07:28 <@luxidream> 55+24 07:28 is the table wrong then? 07:29 because the first column is 'first consultation bought' 07:29 shouldn't the first and the second column header be switche? 07:29 <@luxidream> let me wiztest it 07:30 <@luxidream> I'm pretty sure being level 3 is standard though 07:30 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 07:30 yeah me too 07:30 but then the table headers are mixed up 07:31 so book will give you 20, which is XL2 07:31 + 60 for major, which is 80 for XL3 07:31 + 26 for minor if you like 07:32 so you save the gold for the minor, right? 07:32 when reading book before 07:32 <@luxidream> no the table is correct 07:32 <@luxidream> I'm just assuming that you need 80 for xl 3 which is wrong 07:32 <@luxidream> only need 40 07:32 oh yeah 07:32 so you can get XL4 with book 07:33 book + major first is 80 07:33 <@luxidream> I got 39 points from major consultation since you can't gain more than one level at a time from exp 07:33 <@luxidream> then minor consultation 07:33 ah damn 07:33 <@luxidream> to 41 07:34 <@luxidream> then book to 61 which isn't enough 07:34 right you cannot get more than one level 07:34 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:34 er wait 07:35 never mind 07:35 ok 07:35 <@luxidream> however, you can get to 4 by reading a novel first, then major, then minor 07:35 <@luxidream> just tried it 07:35 so it _does_ work 07:35 <@luxidream> since the extra exp from the major is no longer wasted 07:35 why not book, then minor, then major? 07:35 stenno | so book will give you 20, which is XL2 07:35 + 60 for major, which is 80 for XL3 07:36 so thats 79 here 07:36 not 80 07:36 but still +2 for minor so we are at 81 07:36 XL4 07:36 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:36 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 07:37 <@luxidream> maybe something to note on the wiki 07:37 lots of stuff is outdated 07:37 i think i will update the paci article to that regard 07:37 what on earth are you guys talking about? 07:37 oh oracle? 07:40 ok updated 07:40 paci starts 07:40 starts 07:40 argh 07:40 strats 07:41 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 07:42 man i wanna start the healer now 07:42 at least check if i have 5hp 07:42 er 07:42 pw 07:42 Pw:6, yay 07:42 hm. if you scum for smoky wish for pet archon 07:42 you have to be pretty careful about not killing the oracle i guess lol 07:43 <@luxidream> just scum for 4 smoky wishes 4head 07:43 XD 07:44 good idea lux i will try that for my next paci ascension 07:44 by which i mean my first paci acesnsion 07:45 <@luxidream> not accounting for blessed potions 07:45 <@luxidream> looks like the odds are around 1 in 40 million 07:45 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 07:45 damn, better get started then 07:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:53773 07:45 will report back in a few years 07:46 <@luxidream> and that's just the games where you have smoky 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:53776 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53777 07:46 gt @ 07:47 i miss c corpses working like that 07:50 working like what? 07:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3805 07:52 <@UniDuckRunAmuck> wow that was close 😮 07:52 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 07:52 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (orwell.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 07:52 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 07:54 amateurhour: ah just thinking about evil, can't kill demo orcus and yenoghu with one chicken 07:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1493 07:55 rebatela: doesn't demo just cast stone to flesh on themself lol? 07:55 was watching uniduck's game and about how i got smoked by demo in my last game 07:55 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Val Mer Nbn Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3154 07:55 aoei: that's what i've heard. i haven't actually tried but yeah it's a slow process and he can cast it... 07:55 like, it's no longer insta-, plus demo can cast that 07:55 yeah 07:55 lol 07:55 brutal 07:56 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Val Mer Nbn Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3325 07:56 at least they're still killable 07:56 <@Tone> Can you cancel them then stone them? 07:56 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Val Mer Nbn Law) entered a shop, on T:3377 07:56 oooh yeah maybe that would work Tone 07:56 tone: i wonder 07:56 their MR is 95 07:56 <@Tone> Monster MR probably resists cancel most of the time? 07:56 damn 07:56 damn and blast it 07:56 see this is why i dont play evilhack c: 07:56 you could probably para them and stone them 07:57 amateurhour: yeah i think most strats for killing them involve para 07:57 para then stone probably is one of them 07:57 so when is evilhack going to port over dnh's demogorgon? :^) 07:57 <@luxidream> i fought him mano a mano once 07:57 <@luxidream> in vanilla 07:57 is it even worse? 07:57 <@luxidream> lost like 10 levels 07:57 who was taht lux 07:58 <@luxidream> don't recommend it 07:58 lol damn 07:58 but you won somehow? 07:58 nuts of steel 07:58 i've still yet to face demo ever 07:58 i fought him with martial arts on castle level in evil (not by choice) 07:58 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Chris/dNetHack/dNethack_Demon_Lords#Demogorgon 07:58 somehow he got summoned to votd and followed me up 07:58 ok i need to shower and lunch 07:58 and then maybe try to ascend one of these orcs 07:59 you've never faced demo in vanilla? 07:59 rebatela: iirc never 07:59 (nor in any variant) 07:59 damn you DO play fast lol 07:59 why does fast play matter? 07:59 yeenoghu and orcus will both summon him eventually 07:59 well yeah i dont tend to let them live long LOL 07:59 :) 08:00 <@luxidream> you can get him through random summon nasties 08:00 <@luxidream> this happened to me during tnnt 08:00 oof lux 08:00 ouchie 08:00 big F 08:00 yeah, like i said something brought him to the valley!?!? 08:00 did you kill it? 08:00 wasn't bones either 08:00 <@luxidream> i did because 366 is pre nerf sm 08:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:46855 08:01 oh ?osm works on major demons in 366 08:01 lulz nice 08:01 was it summon nasties or was it demon gating? 08:01 <@luxidream> wizard harassment 08:01 <@luxidream> there were no other enemies around 08:01 sm works in gehennom in 3.66? that's crazy 08:01 ahh, that's nasty 08:01 i never have played that way. that's ridiculous 08:01 elebereth too 08:01 tbf lux ascend that many times inone month 08:01 and you're asking for it really 08:02 i'm glad they nerfed 08:02 yeah more times in one month than I've done total ever across all variants lol 08:02 <@luxidream> haha I got it twice during some junethack 08:02 <@luxidream> in dyna I think 08:02 aight bbs/bbl 08:02 I can't wait for junethack, it was so much fun this year 08:03 <@luxidream> i wasn't too motivated to play in june 2020 08:03 <@luxidream> maybe it will change this year 08:03 have a nice lunch aeoi 08:03 aoei 08:03 aioe 08:03 whatevs 08:04 are there variants you haven't done yet luxidream? 08:04 <@luxidream> haven't done evil or grunt or dnh 08:04 dnh and ndnh are an absolute blast to play 08:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:4200 08:05 <@luxidream> yeah I need to try for a dnh win this year 08:05 <@luxidream> long game though 08:06 <@luxidream> also might just instadie to some demon I don't know about idk 08:07 it doesn't have to be that long I think, there's so much optional stuff to do to beef up the character 08:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:46931 08:07 it's fun doing all that though 08:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 36241 points, T:9158, killed by an air elemental 08:08 do you do all those conducts when you play dnh amateurhour? 08:09 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 08:09 i love playing monk, but i am very unmonklike. you actually play the role w/ the conducts 08:11 I tend to lose polyselfless for gehennom 08:11 the demon lairs are very scary 08:12 but I definitely get weaponless and vegan 08:12 actually dnh monks are the most powerful monks across variants really 08:13 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 152 points, T:280, killed by a hobbit 08:14 grats on the 4-streak stenno! 08:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4370 08:17 thx :D 08:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:4614 08:18 oh nice congrats 08:18 thxx thx 08:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:47124 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:47128 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 371 points, T:353, killed by a hobgoblin, while sleeping 08:20 amateurhour: yeah. i've only really read the wiki, but i love the resistances they continue to get... I would lvl up to 30 immediately lol 08:21 the xp curve is really nice as well so getting to 30 isn't so difficult 08:21 maybe i will play dnh today 08:21 at 30 you can #name a robe and get the grandmaster's robe too 08:21 that's wild! 08:22 if you get an early wish go for premium heart or godhands depending which race you are 08:22 and don't forget you can get both martial arts and twoweapon to grandmaster 08:22 oh yeah 08:22 i played and wished for something you told me 08:22 i had a candle 08:22 was it premium heart maybe? that's so good 08:23 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Val Mer Nbn Law) entered a temple, on T:3523 08:23 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/DNetHack_artifacts#Premium_Heart 08:23 ok so i HAVE premium heaert in my game 08:24 and a magic whistle 08:24 and some sort of bag 08:24 oh so GOP good for martial arts i guess 08:24 what else do they do? 08:24 they also raise dex like gauntlets of dex 08:24 i need to enchant 08:25 and amazing damage bonus 08:25 oh nice 08:25 2x damage by default, goes up the more status effects you have on you like stunned etc 08:25 what are clockworks components? 08:26 not useful for your race I think 08:26 ok 08:26 i'm gonna annoy you if i really play this ;) 08:26 that's fine with me lol 08:26 which race are you? 08:26 also which spells do you have already? 08:26 i imagine human 08:26 protection 08:27 i scummed for it 08:27 oh yeah, protection is amazing in dnh 08:27 i like sleep though. but you told me protection 08:27 amazing 08:27 yeah. that's awesome that they buffed it 08:27 it's underused in vanilla etc 08:27 it can be a lifesaver early game (even in vanilla) 08:28 there's a guaranteed artifact at the end of the neutral quest that gives pw regen 08:28 i have 2 more spellbooks 08:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 489 points, T:510, killed by a crossbow bolt 08:28 oh like the eye?!? i want that! 08:29 it also gives teleport control and polymorph control, as well as branchporting 08:29 lol 08:29 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Val Mer Nbn Law) murdered their faithful winter wolf, on T:4511 08:29 also if you have it you can skip getting the bell of opening 08:29 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Val Mer Nbn Law), 4739 points, T:4516, offed by a green mold warrior 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 67 points, T:71, killed by an arrow 08:30 should warn you that the neutral quest is really long and dangerous, but really fun as well 08:31 ok 08:31 where is that? Am i ready? 08:32 i'm lvl 7 with like 60 hp 08:32 j/k 08:32 heh 08:32 I'd probs say to do law quest and maybe chaos quest first so you're much stronger 08:32 also sokoban of course 08:33 dnh soko is really nice, monsters don't spawn in the puzzle area 08:33 i'm confused. i'm in ravine? 08:33 i was in minetown and i went up a few levels 08:33 ahh, this is where Vlad's tower is 08:33 oh ok. cya 08:33 lol 08:33 if you have a way of opening a drawbridge or crossing water it might be worth trying it 08:33 because there's guaranteed holy water in there as well as amulet of lifesaving 08:34 ok 08:34 i'll go back 08:34 is there another upstair on this level? 08:34 just gotta watch out for cerberus if you don't have fire res yet 08:34 the floor below you has two upstairs I think 08:34 i don't think i have anything yet 08:34 below the ravine one? or the floor below that? 08:34 floor below that 08:34 tx 08:36 oh i can buy services from shopkeeper? 08:36 yeah 08:36 what's a trephination kit? 08:36 treph kits are complicated and I've never used them 08:36 hard pass 08:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6851 08:37 there were two downstairs there 08:37 oh ok 08:37 there's a lot of single-floor branches that can spawn between dlvl 5 and the castle 08:38 you can just kill it, might even one-hit it with prem heart 08:38 oh that was the mines downstairs lol, my bad 08:38 haha :D 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2568 points, T:4132, killed by a wand 08:39 they can freeze you like floating eyes 08:39 good to know 08:39 <@luxidream> !who 08:39 @luxidream: [hdf-us] karibou [evil] post163 [evil] sonsie [nh370] antigulp [nh370] hothraxxa [un] wintergalaxy88 [spl] rebatela [dnh] | [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] stenno [nh370] | [hdf-au] Tangles [nh370] 08:39 they can also stare at you to make you temporarily lose ac 08:40 you see that? i checked for traps twice and then got frozen 08:40 and that's why i hate nethack 08:40 people don't even check for traps and live, and i waste the turns and always trigger the damn thing 08:41 i'm one-shotting everything... 08:41 yeah lol, premium heart is epic 08:41 and have only trained ma once i think 08:41 unicorn horns? 08:41 just wait till you have grandmaster martial arts and twoweapon... 08:42 unihorn like 3.4.3 08:42 killer bee zombie. are zombies scary like gh/eh? no i imagine? 08:43 they're tougher than their usual monster and are resistant against bludgeoning like martial arts 08:43 but, doesn't matter in the face of premium heart 08:43 you'll still probs one-shot them 08:43 i need to id these spellbooks or just bless/reads 08:44 you'll get so much loot that it'll be easy to bless every spellbook 08:45 can i buy any id from the hardware guy or just tools? 08:45 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:45 I think it's any but I can't remember if it has a chance of failure 08:46 btw don't geno h until the final floor of the neutral quest 08:46 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 08:46 if you save geno h for then you'll get a lot of extra/full healings and gain level potions 08:46 what should next wish be if i get one ? i love wishing for eye in vanilla but if i can get that neutral quest thing you were talking about i wouldn't need it. But i need MR somehow right? 08:46 pyec a good wish? 08:46 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5541 08:46 can't wish for quest artifacts 08:47 good to know 08:47 what should my next wish be? 08:47 and how do i get MR pre-quest? 08:47 also there's artifact wishing rules 08:47 I'd just do the quest tbh, you'll destroy kaen with relative ease 08:47 mano y mano no mr? 08:47 gtfo 08:48 by then you'll probs have grandmaster marts and some decent twoweapon 08:48 yeah by then 08:48 i want mr now 08:48 don't want to splat 08:48 cloak? 08:48 oh lol, well no idea as I just use the eyes 08:48 oh ok 08:48 that's cool 08:49 so just play through and do the quest 08:49 are you neutral by the way? 08:49 do i have to be 14 08:49 yes 08:49 if so there's an amazing second artifact wish you could consider if you don't mind not using grandmaster's robe 08:49 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/DNetHack_artifacts#Cloak_of_the_Unheld_One 08:50 oh nice 08:50 to unlock your next artifact wish you need to sit on the castle throne 08:50 oh ok 08:50 that seems fair 08:50 but man, i'd never know that. so thank you :) 08:50 this is my usual second artifact wish 08:50 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/DNetHack_artifacts#Helping_Hand 08:50 because it blocks your stuff getting cursed 08:51 rem curse is one of the first spells i try to learn. at skilled clerical it is like blessed scroll 08:51 I just really hate my boh getting cursed 08:51 sometimes it's annoying actually if you have unholy water or cursed tele in open and forget 08:52 or uncursed rather 08:52 unblessed* 08:53 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:55 there's a 4 on this level 08:55 i'm gonna leave that area alone 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:1709 08:55 might be a vault? 08:55 yeah those vaults are absolutely loaded with loot 08:55 but they're surrounded by water 08:56 if you have a way of crossing water and are strong enough to take them on it's worth it 08:56 anything will do, a boulder, wand of cold, etc 08:56 you're probs strong enough with prem heart 08:56 yeah i want to buy protection 08:56 are all the vaults like that? 08:57 no, some are ordinary gold vaults 08:57 i want a helm of brilliance too. my wis sucks 08:58 might get one in that vault 08:58 uh, there is a hostile titan on DL 13 08:59 i dug down from oracle but i might have dropped a couple levels 08:59 that's out of depth 08:59 stenno: tame it! 08:59 * rebatela cues stenno's out of depth rant 08:59 dont have taming 08:59 well why is there an out of depth monster 08:59 you have a streak going? 08:59 it was there when i first entered the level 08:59 that sucks 09:00 4-streak atm 09:00 guess i am supposed to just go downstairs 09:01 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Dra Hum Nbn Law) entered a shop, on T:3364 09:04 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Dra Hum Nbn Law) rejected atheism by offering a giant rat corpse on an altar of Enki, on T:4147 09:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Dresser, on T:9878 09:04 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Dra Hum Nbn Law) had Balmung bestowed upon them by Enki, on T:4201 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3361 09:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5838 09:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby purple worm, on T:10787 09:08 ... 09:08 break out of my armor etc 09:09 worst is losing robe 09:10 everything else is easily replaced. tshirt sucks too i guess 09:10 healer don't start with robe 09:10 i know 09:10 could be worse :) 09:12 you gotta get that AC back down 09:12 stating the obvious 09:13 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Dra Hum Nbn Law), 6062 points, T:5551, dismembered by a soldier ant 09:13 aah already 09:13 yeah could be worse indeed 09:13 are you wearing a cursed cloak? 09:13 currently -2 elven cloak 09:13 but stealth is stealth 09:13 gonna raid a throne room 09:13 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:4877 09:13 for sure 09:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:16324 09:16 i've ascended back to back a few times, but never more. I like to start scum though because i'm a degenerate (i don't really these days, but when i played a lot i did) 09:16 for me its relatively new too lol 09:17 damn i need a mummy wrapping 09:19 oh no... when i dug down from oracle i ended up in big room 09:19 nothing scary looking in there 09:19 gel cubes are fine? 09:19 they are instadeath in my world 09:20 they're slow so just avoid them or zap attack wand or something 09:20 everything else you'll obliterate as they come to you 09:20 big chest with 10 keyholes w00t 09:20 i happen to have all 10 keys 09:20 not 09:20 lol 09:20 they're magic chests 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1868 points, T:5413, fell into a pit of iron spikes 09:21 they're all connected to eachother so anything you put in one will be in another 09:21 but if you open one it bolts to the floor and you can't move it again 09:21 wut 09:21 so leave that one where it is for now imo and maybe move it to more convenient place later 09:21 ok 09:21 you can basically use them for a stash you can access from lots of places 09:22 i feel like the piano player on the muppets who bangs his head on the keyboard "I'LL NEVER GET IT ! NEVER ! " 09:22 that's awesome 09:22 there's one in soko as well, which I think is worth moving from final soko floor to first soko floor 09:22 i should be writing this down, but you're basically telling me pretty huge stuff so i should remember 09:22 should being the operative word 09:22 as you'll be able to branchport to soko later on and have access to the stash with ease then 09:23 yeah. that's my stash spot 09:23 usually just a boulder 09:24 [hdf-us] [spl] wintergalaxy88 (Val Mer Nbn Law), 1589 points, T:3047, quit 09:26 actually here is a taming scroll 09:26 I think you'll like soko, no flipping and monsters don't spawn in puzzle area 09:26 should i try to tame the titan lol 09:26 no monsters spawning on first floor at all 09:26 base mr 70 09:26 horrible things will happen 09:26 do it 09:26 yolo 09:28 scroll has attack level 9 09:28 titan base level 16 09:29 70/(100+9-16) 09:29 so like 72% to fail 09:29 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 09:30 i will do it 09:30 but first i need to find a mummy wrapping 09:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 black dragon scale mail", on T:16832 09:34 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:36 rebatela: amateurhour tamed the titan OMEGALUL 09:36 first try even 09:36 lunch food mademe sleepy 09:36 oh but he is invis 09:36 nice one stenno 09:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1373 09:37 that is a bit of a problem as i can't SI lol 09:37 just open ur third eye 09:37 well first i turn into a lichen 09:39 uh, my titan just vanished 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1262 points, T:1857, killed by an ape 09:40 ~he polymorphed into something else 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:49143 09:41 3rd polytrap in arow 09:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:14307 09:42 :I 09:43 oh no 09:43 i just read all that 09:44 i tried to ascend with one all decked out in gear and on the run up with the amulet it turned into an owlbear from poly trap 09:44 but then another one got summoned so i tamed it, dropped the amulet and went back and got all its stuff 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:49213 09:45 but it died on plane of fire (give it a ring of fire resistance maybe) 09:45 The cloak will not fit on your body. 09:45 ??? 09:45 gnomes can't wear mummy wrappings? 09:45 is this a new 3.7 thing?? 09:46 welcome to my giant-playing world 09:46 You are currently in female ettin form. 09:46 lol 09:46 ol i am polymorphed, never mind 09:46 hah 09:47 do mind flayers follow? 09:48 nope 09:48 followers are, iirc: Z@iW& and ghosts/shades 09:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:15162 09:48 maybe also M 09:49 oh and probably V 09:49 it always sucks when you learn the DO follow lol 09:49 they* 09:49 yeah I think it's @Z VWMi& 09:50 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50 so pretty much all demons and undead will 09:50 plus @ 09:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:50 now i have int:4 for the forseeable future 09:50 oof 09:50 until i get restore ability 09:52 oh uninhorns are nerfed in 3.7 right 09:52 no altars? 09:53 is healer spellcasting tied to int? 09:56 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:57 no lol 09:57 how does altar help me here? 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2159 09:57 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 8348 points, T:21004, killed by Medusa 09:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed luckstone", on T:49586 10:04 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death (killed by an air elemental), on T:49729 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh4] jimss (cable) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7505 points, T:396, quit 10:10 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3669 10:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:16715 10:17 ok so 10:17 gray dsm 10:17 [oP 10:17 oof? 10:17 3there is a gray dragon there, hmm 10:18 just oof 10:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed orb of fate", on T:16724 10:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:20 damn, just green dragon scales 10:20 you doing paci atm? 10:20 nah 10:21 so could just do green DSM because it doesn't really matter, and then comr 10:23 no that is dumb 10:23 just normal 10:23 gdsm, cop 10:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:16869 10:24 what no revgeno? 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha), 87 points, T:295, killed by a newt 10:24 oh duh 10:24 i wanted to revgeno wraiths 10:25 could've just revgeno'd gray dragons i guess 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:5012 10:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:49932 10:27 kinda wanna do quest before votd.. 10:29 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:49941 10:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of protection", on T:17051 10:30 altar helps to get int up? you can sacrifice/pray? won't your int go right back? 10:30 that's what i do when i lose status points 10:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:17052 10:30 uh, ok 10:30 didn't know tht 10:31 oh you have the wand nvm 10:31 i took the dog for a walk and your game is totally different. you play too fast 10:32 rebatela: stenno is a speed runner. 10:32 i am not really speedrunning though 10:32 He plays entire games of NetHack start to finish in a single day. 10:32 stenno is like a ninja, but slower 10:32 lol K2 10:32 :P 10:32 jonadab: i'm aware... he also has a streak going 10:32 successful prayer restores lost attributes... maybe 10:32 hahaha 10:32 doesn't have to be at an altar 10:32 yeah 10:33 i only pray at altars. that's why i don't understand it 10:33 i also kill lots of things i shouldn't so usually need an altar/sacrifice to pray 10:33 at least to make sure 10:33 i hate losing protection 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 7819 points, T:5404, killed by a gargoyle 10:34 Evil Patch Idea: a new type of trap, that increases your prayer timeout. 10:34 i think i lost like 15 points or something not long ago praying too early 10:34 hhm four-leaf clover is fine to pray, ray 10:34 right 10:34 that was quick, i can't really believe it 10:35 i swear i've gottent the clovers and then had god get mad when i prayed 10:35 after killing all the minetown watch. i don't trust the clovers anymore 10:35 i used to think that meant you're good 10:35 * stenno tries 10:35 well-pleased 10:35 nice 10:35 but didn't get my Int back 10:35 ugh 10:35 i clearly don't understand how it works. that should be first priortiy, god ! 10:35 ah well it doesnt actually matter lol 10:36 is casting tied to int or wis w/healer? 10:36 wis 10:36 oh so who cares? just bless the books and you're good 10:36 think that already exists in slex jonadab 10:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Medica ossium, on T:17830 10:37 in the base game, not even in evilvariant mode 10:37 amateurhour: Let me guess: it's a nasty trap and doesn't reveal itself when you step on it. 10:37 hahaha yeah I think so 10:37 man i don't want to fight cyclops 10:37 that will be INSANE 10:37 Does it also increase your prayer timeout when activated by monsters? 10:38 I don't think it does 10:38 Ah. So there's room for additional evilness then. 10:38 oh dear 10:39 the ol' zot trap 10:44 !tell qt you should do the "(illegal)" getpos polearm fix as a vanilla PR because it's a vanilla bug 10:44 qt shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, aosdict. 10:49 fuck man 10:49 cyclops time 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] ned (cable) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 37296 points, T:3147, killed by an owlbear 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law), 2679012 points, T:49962, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sonsie/nethack/dumplog/1606582479.nh.html 10:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:18554 10:52 that was anticlimiactic 10:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18556 10:53 are you doing paci or just regular run 10:53 regular 10:53 k 10:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Clk Fem Law) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:17491 10:57 hmm 10:59 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 11:00 he's getting cocky though, aoei... 11:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:19205 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3170 11:01 j/k just don't want to see you f up the streak.. i know it's how you play 11:01 maybe he needs to play some evilhack lol 11:01 that'll knock out any cockiness 11:01 i used to play vanilla real time fastish too.. (not like you guys) but evil did slow me down 11:01 lately i have been trying to play realtime fast 11:01 like 6/7 hours is fastish for normal people i think. 11:02 at least that's what i tell myself? 11:02 i overprepare 11:03 oh, well one does not want to die, rebatela (said the Homomdam) 11:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:37580 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh4] het (cable) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 24376 points, T:1134, killed by a water demon, while praying 11:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Sam Clk Fem Law), 318293 points, T:18234, killed by a shade 11:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2217 11:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:19793 11:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:19814 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh4] jerry (cable) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 13486 points, T:697, killed by a water demon 11:23 spicycat: that's how i've always looked at it 11:27 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 11:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:20118 11:29 i'd love to see stenno tackle evilhack 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3706 11:29 i'd love to see k2 tackle dnethack 11:30 i'm gonna once 3.19.2 is released 11:30 i've love to see K2 ascend in fewer than 20000 turns c: 11:30 now you have me imagining player vs. variant rugby 11:30 no it doesn't have to make sense 11:30 aoei: prob never happen :P 11:30 aosdict: sounds dope 11:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:20437 11:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:20438 11:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:20615 11:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed The Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:3707 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1506 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] key (cable) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 23241 points, T:1069, killed by a hobbit 11:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5393 11:46 hah, serves him right for leaving a fully grown dragon on dlvl7 11:46 :) 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2095 points, T:1755, killed by a small mimic 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 10898 points, T:7409, killed by a panther 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed spellbook of knock", on T:123 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:125 11:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:21606 11:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:21607 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 48 points, T:111, killed by a grid bug 11:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:21629 11:56 <@!AntiTime!> what is this 11:56 channel for the hardfought nethack server 11:56 <@!AntiTime!> why is everyone a bot? 11:57 EXTERMINATE 11:57 BEEP BOOP. 11:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:21741 11:57 it's a bridge to a better place 11:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:21744 12:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 819 points, T:2171, killed by a rabid rat 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed wintergalaxy88's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:900 12:05 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52622 12:07 -!- jeremiahL has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:07 there's an irc channel, those of us using irc appear to be bots in the discord server 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1290 12:11 thanks a lot @mtf 12:12 we never used to get confused discord users saying "why is everyone a bot" 12:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 366 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:23204 12:14 !rng orc wiz | orc barb 12:14 aoei: orc wiz 12:14 :o 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3185 points, T:3430, killed by a bugbear 12:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3150 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3598 12:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 146 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:23504 12:15 i'd love to see stenno tackle evilhack 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:52189 12:16 i feel that about a lot of these pro nethack types... 12:16 and i don't mean to be plugging your game for free or anything.. i just enjoy it a ton and want others to play 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 333 points, T:699, killed by a water demon 12:17 aosdict: I once saw someone join a channel on another IRC network I'm a member of 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:52194 12:17 aosdict: and proclaim this to be a "shit version of discord" 12:17 i'm psyched that stenno is playing nethack again. really fun to watch 12:17 i was so raged 12:17 stenno back from the dead :o 12:17 right? 12:17 rebatela: im gonna stream my orc wiz tho ;o 12:17 and try not to die lulz 12:18 link it up 12:18 i like to watch 12:18 k i will when im ready 12:18 i was trying to speedrun it but idk how much time i already used 12:18 as in realtime speedrun 12:19 but with save breaks because im not insane 12:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:23691 12:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:52205 12:19 i like evilhack because you don't need to like learn anything new. it's just hard 12:20 zombies will end the early game, but once you learn that. it's pretty intuitive 12:21 no items you have no idea what they do or monsters that end the game 12:21 i think a big selling point for stenno would be, there's no more mysterious force 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:4448 12:22 k2: true! 12:22 I think a bigger selling point would be dominating a difficult variant and ego-stroking :P 12:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23991 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4566 12:23 after all they are the number 2 player in tnnt :^) 12:23 who 12:23 stenno 12:23 ok so PLAY EVIL, stenno! no one is impresswed 12:23 we can all ascend vanilla 12:24 rebatela: screenies from current orc wiz game: https://0x0.st/ih5Z.png, https://0x0.st/ih5N.png, https://0x0.st/ih5q.png, https://0x0.st/ih5b.png, https://0x0.st/ih5c.png, https://0x0.st/ih5T.png 12:25 looks like i need to head to Vlad's next 12:25 nice surplus of wishes too this game rocks 12:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:27 <@nabru> !coffee 12:27 * Beholder hands @nabru a cup of cafe latte, brewed by TheresaMayBot at 365 Kelvin. 12:28 wait, wut? you don't need to learn anything new for evilhack? 12:28 that can't be right 12:28 hey rebatela, stand here next to this gelatinous cube for a sec would you? 12:28 i already learnt to be terrified of Z 12:28 and im still rubbish at evilhack 12:28 <@nabru> Z's in evil are scary 12:29 they are 12:29 very scary 12:29 i know, whack this black dragon 12:29 what, your +5 dragonbane is missing> how did that happen> 12:31 ouch is that a thing in evilhack? 12:31 melee black dragon, disintegrate weapon? 12:31 black dragons have a passive disintegration attack 12:31 oof 12:31 also dragonbane is not a weapon 12:32 <@nabru> I've never survived long enough to meet a black dragon in evil 12:32 gray dragons also have a passive disenchant attack 12:32 and dragons are engulfers 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4874 12:32 but you know, nothing new 12:33 well 12:33 not MUCH new 12:33 im guessing being engulfed by a black dragon is Bad News(tm) 12:33 no worse than any other digesting attack 12:34 the real killer is the gelcube 12:34 disintegrating digestion may be too evil 12:34 i did give it a moment of thought however 12:34 ah ok 12:34 phew 12:34 for a second there i thought evilhack was *really* mean 12:34 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:35 in some areas, yes 12:35 but not crazy 'go F yourself' mean 12:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:24732 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1728 12:38 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2873 points, T:1789, killed by an invisible gargoyle 12:39 <@nabru> !lastgame antigulp 12:39 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/antigulp/nethack/dumplog/1607693639.nh.html 12:40 lol, she found a second polycontrol ring in sokoban 12:40 that always annoys me when that happens 12:42 im training her up in the Way of the Scum B^) 12:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:25176 12:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:25206 12:43 :o 12:43 gogogo stenno 12:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:25219 12:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1190556 points, T:25232, ascended 12:44 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1607690546.nh.html 12:45 5-streak lol 12:45 nice 12:45 congrats 12:45 thx 12:45 all hail 3.7.0 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3599 12:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3599 12:46 -!- jeremiahL has joined #hardfought 12:46 next one is monk 12:46 neutral monk maybe 12:46 oh nice one stenno, grats :D 12:47 ^_^ 12:47 gratz stenno 12:47 thx htx 12:47 consistency! 12:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8442 12:48 gno healer was cool with the protection racket but when i reached castle, i had almost no armor left because of polytraps lol 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:52966 12:49 #9, 4 remaining 12:50 monk, sam, barb, valk 12:50 should be easy ones to continue the streak 12:50 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:53268 12:50 yeah i ordered them in descending difficulty 12:51 4 ascensions in 24 hours 12:52 :o 12:52 nice 12:52 stenno is on fire 12:53 and that 5-streak man, either 3.7.0 is much easier or i finally found my consistent gameplay style 12:53 you are on a roll 12:53 but it may not continue forever 12:53 maybe tomorrow you try to play and splat several gmaes 12:53 who knows 12:53 i thought cyclops would e brutal but i just zapped him with sleep and killed him 12:53 yeah 12:54 hope it does tho 12:54 monk will be interesting 12:54 master kaen 12:54 monk is one of the hardest roles for me 12:54 i thikn i've only ascended one or two 12:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:9293 12:55 human in the mines is always nasty 12:55 true 12:55 it sucks 12:55 hopefully i wont start with protection 12:56 healing would be best i think 12:56 you have very good to-hit and decent starting damage but very vulnerable to ranged attack from gnomes 12:56 yeah 12:57 luckily i start with sleep, that helps 12:57 oh sleep is like the best spell ever 12:57 err 12:57 esp once you're resistance yourself 12:57 start with speed lol 12:57 oh right 12:57 hm monks maybe can't start with that spell anyway 12:57 yeah sleep and healing are both very good 12:57 protection is the outlier 12:57 sleep and healing best spells 12:58 can monks start with sleep 12:58 monk can start with sleep, healing or protection 12:58 or just healing/clerical 12:58 nice 12:58 unfortunately i cannot do combat wombat because no body armor 12:58 what means combat wombat? 12:59 super tanky, low-ish damage output, no spells 12:59 (for me) 12:59 ah 12:59 i don't tend to play super tanky characters 12:59 not very often at least 13:00 i would like my orc barb to be a bit more tanky 13:00 so awesome in the early game 13:00 for the ascension run 13:00 my wizard had like -5 AC or so 13:00 atm i can't see her natural hp cuz she's in mmf form 13:00 with mithril + [oRefl and [oProt 13:00 oh hm 13:00 what alignment? 13:00 ac:-22 13:01 chaotic 13:01 got mkot? 13:01 ac:-22 as mmf so about -12 normal 13:01 thats not too much, yeah 13:01 i cont remember whether i bought any protection 13:01 nah, my orc wiz has mkot, but the orc barb doens't 13:02 aw pity 13:02 mkot ftw 13:02 orc wiz has mkot ant AC:-15 13:02 hp:112(112) 13:02 perfectly fine for ascending 13:02 sounds ok, yeh 13:02 its not super tanky but its no problem 13:02 my wiz had 100HP 13:02 also with mkot 13:03 i usually don't ascend with loads of hp 13:03 its cool, can recommend :D 13:03 * stenno embraces >20k strats 13:03 heh, orc wiz doesn't have any shoes 13:03 why doesn't she have any shoes!!!? 13:03 blep 13:03 i can probably wish for speed boots lol, got spare wishes 13:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 28816 points, T:9971, killed by a zruty 13:04 1:2 WoW and using a magic lamp as light source 13:04 oh well then 13:04 oh you are stacked 13:04 yeah xD 13:04 the orc barb looks slightly worse off on resources but probably will also be fine 13:05 and orc barb does already have conflict ring 13:05 orcwiz might need to wish for it 13:05 not found polymorph wand yet in that game 13:06 good wish 13:06 i figure i can also wish for poly wand and polypile rings 13:06 but if the only one i really need is conflict then... 13:06 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:53695 13:08 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4266 points, T:18238, killed by a human zombie 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2668 13:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 13:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 13:09 oh i cannot mmf as monk i just realized lol 13:09 then it will be the classic build 13:09 yes you can 13:10 naaah 13:10 unless you plan to play the classic monk conducts 13:10 but that's not the same as cannot :P 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2275 points, T:3032, killed by a spotted jelly 13:10 i don't know how to play it different 13:10 oh that's easy 13:10 you just ignore the conducts :P 13:10 naaaah 13:10 bad karma 13:10 lawl 13:11 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided master liches dungeon wide on T:53901 13:13 could be double-arti build with oof and pyec 13:13 hmm..are polytraps removed only if you actually polymorph when triggering them? 13:13 i think so, yeah 13:14 Merlek: yes and no. 13:14 IIRC, they stay there if you 13:14 are magic resistant and nothing happens 13:14 but if you are polymorphed but the poly is unsuccessful, then they are still used up 13:15 ah yeah, if you get 'new foo' poly result, it will vanish 13:15 or a system shock etc. 13:15 but if MR blocks it it won't be used up at all 13:15 and monsters don't use them up either 13:15 i think they do now in 3.7 13:15 :o 13:15 Nope trust me, they don't :D 13:16 blep 13:16 lol ok good to know Merlek :D 13:17 pity 13:17 they should 13:17 it would make mines polytrap levels a lot less scary lol 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3161 13:18 sometimes I have to escape a mines level very fast if certain monsters are generated and i know there's a polytrap that could make more or worse ones 13:18 oh maybe it was in one of aosdict's pull requests 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 844 points, T:1260, killed by an iguana 13:20 had a run-in with a bunch of monster's that I at least assume used a nearby trap in the mines, black dragon, nalfeshnee, minotaur etc :P 13:20 yeh here https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/284/commits/ed082b4f74544c0787d782f5cd4486834260fb86 13:21 amateurhour: you here? if yes, I'd like to address your last thoughts ;) 13:21 ah nice! 13:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Ogresmasher", on T:21454 13:21 I am here though my brain might be falling asleep as I've just eatn a lot of chinese food 13:21 wassap 13:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:81833 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 3962 points, T:4194, killed by a watch captain 13:23 amateurhour: heh nice, I'm in the process of eating right now ;) so: bashing with an unlit lightsaber, polearm at melee distance, launcher etc. trains the skill in slex (but in no other variant that I'm aware of) 13:24 oh that's good to know 13:24 it only trains the weapon skill though, no lightsaber forms (those can only be trained if the lightsaber is lit) 13:24 I didn't manage to get those past their starting values before I died really 13:25 but that makes sense really 13:25 and whether you have hands or not isn't relevant to melee skill use, what matters is that your current form has a weapon attack, in which case it'll train the current weapon or barehanded/martial arts if no weapon 13:25 it's a common misconception that claw, bite etc. attacks would use martial arts (they do not; vanilla behavior) 13:25 oh right, so in principle I could be a race that doesn't have hands 13:25 and it'll use martial arts 13:26 as long as that race has the ability to make weapon attacks generally 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:43653 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3518 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2034 points, T:3575, killed by a magic missile 13:28 yes, and you can also use weapons as such a race of course 13:28 aoei: started with protection :/ 13:28 playing ico jedi was awful as it kept putting out the lightsaber 13:28 turn 1 get shafted to DL 5 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:54264 13:28 dafuq 13:28 rough start 13:29 <@nabru> !whereis stenno 13:29 @nabru: [hdf-eu] stenno [nh370]: (Mon Hum Mal Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 534 points, T:656, killed by a bolt of fire 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:54272 13:29 amateurhour: heh yeah, ico jedi is probably not the strongest choice :P basically, if you pick that, you'll be a jedi that has to use regular swords instead of lightsabers 13:29 yeah, didn't realise it would do that 13:30 turboass, would not recommend 13:30 yo yo yo hold up 13:30 in vanilla if you're a polyform that uses claw/bite attacks and you're not wielding a weapon, you use martial arts? 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:44830 13:31 or barehanded 13:31 if you're not a sam/monk 13:31 i gotta try polyself based monk at some point 13:31 poly'd monks don't get any of the penalties for armour and stuff iirc 13:32 well unless they changed it, claw/bite attacks shouldn't use martial arts skill in vanilla either 13:32 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1633 points, T:2920, killed by a hill orc 13:32 LarienTelrunya: oh, i misunderstood what you wrote then 13:32 could you clarify again how it works as my brain might have fallen asleep 13:33 i read it as "that is a misconception due to vanilla behaviour" 13:33 explain like I've suddenly dropped 50 iq points in the past 15 mins 13:33 it should be so that, if you're polymorphed into say a baby dragon with a 2d6 bite attack, then you'll always do exactly 2d6 damage in melee no matter whether you have the martial arts skill or not, and the martial arts skill will not train if you bite a monster. 13:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:82525 13:34 if it's somehow different in vanilla now, I wouldn't know, but that was the behavior in 3.4.3 13:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2667 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:54440 13:35 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3722 13:36 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3762 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2380 13:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered Crimefighter, his faithful little dog, on T:3156 13:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1442 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:45011 13:41 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Page of Claws, on T:4098 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:45016 13:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3631 13:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3662 13:44 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "meowing", on T:4342 13:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed wintergalaxy88's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:3691 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4320 13:49 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:54758 13:53 * rebatela is late to the party 13:53 CONGRATS STENNO 13:54 25232. First ascension? 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:45800 13:54 er wut 13:55 thanks 13:55 er i'm joking 13:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:4399 13:55 u busted my balls years ago for a hi turncount and it sticks 13:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6653 points, T:4489, killed by an energy vortex 13:55 lul 13:55 so 5? 13:56 yeah 13:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3546 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] billum (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 232 points, T:651, killed by a magic missile 14:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5677 points, T:3939, killed by a leocrotta 14:00 rip 5-streak 14:00 ah well 14:00 it was fun while it lasted 14:00 whouldn't have started another game lol 14:01 good run stenno 14:01 yeah pretty good 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wolf, on T:6960 14:01 at least it wasn't a virgocrotta, those are so annoying 14:02 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] billum (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 145 points, T:646, killed by a gecko 14:03 lol what does that do? female child leocrotta? M2_FEMALE and lower stats than an adult leocrotta? :D 14:03 ...? 14:04 Neko-chan: o/ 14:04 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 heh I was trying to guess what spicycat's newest addition to the slex bestiary could do ;) 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1454 points, T:2600, killed by a guardian naga hatchling 14:05 Oh 14:05 <@luxidream> rip 14:05 if you add virgocrotta you'd better add ariescrotta etc 14:05 <@luxidream> amy: Geminicrotta should split like a pudding 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] billum (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 162 points, T:438, killed by a bat 14:05 * stenno blames starting with +oProt 14:05 add to what? 14:05 tauruscrotta is just a minotaur 14:05 minotaur-taur 14:06 to the slex bestiary 14:06 "add to what" I literally said what it is a couple lines above... someone is obviously still using a message filter :P 14:07 confusion all around 14:07 * Umbire applies a unicorn horn 14:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6932 points, T:8065, quit 14:07 * Umbire feels steadier 14:08 piscescrotta gets swimming and magical breathing because why wouldn't it 14:09 keep em coming guys :D 14:09 if the current date corresponds to the star sign, that monster deals 2x damage 14:09 like last time with the zruties, these are all going to be added! 14:10 what would a virgocrotta do, besides the obvious? (give unwanted advice) 14:11 i guess virgos theoretically like helping, they could uncurse things that are in your boh 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:46206 14:11 virgo is latin for girl :D 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Heroine, on T:46210 14:11 soldiercrotta: like a regular leocrotta, but generates in large groups and can use, and be generated with, weapons. 14:11 <{Demo}> which star sign is zruty under? 14:12 LarienTelrunya: Virgo is better known as the location of the local supercluster. 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh4] tad (cable) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 41642 points, T:3762, killed by an ogre 14:12 huh? that's something I'm not aware of 14:12 It's a group of galaxies that includes ours. 14:12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgo_Supercluster 14:12 i don't remember much of my latin but girl is puella 14:13 ^ 14:13 oh yeah? what's so super about it huh? 14:13 sosocluster at best, imo 14:14 oh, guess I mixed it up, virgo actually means "virgin" (which can very well be a girl though :D ) 14:15 later, virgos 14:15 Compare virago 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1228 14:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Empiric, on T:73399 14:16 puella magi madoka magica 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 732 points, T:2089, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 43542 points, T:73699, escaped 14:18 !lastgame spontiff 14:18 nabru: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for nh363:spontiff) | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spontiff/nethack/dumplog/1607191381.nh.html 14:19 ouch 14:20 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:55139 14:20 .tell AntiGulp sorry i was at the shops lol 14:21 !tell AntiGulp sorry i was at the shops lol 14:21 Will do, aoei! 14:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3394 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 362 points, T:1396, killed by a giant bat, while reading a book 14:21 stenno: if I ascend I will make pizza and glühwein :o 14:22 yay gluehwein 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 205 points, T:893, killed by a bear trap 14:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "z", on T:3555 14:22 i have star anis, zimt, oranges, lemons, sugar, cardamom 14:23 and nelke ofc 14:23 and redwine 14:23 i think its enough? 14:23 sounds good 14:23 yay glühwein 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2519 14:23 but first i should try to ascend this orc wiz 14:23 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 14:23 see how fast i can do gehennom 14:23 <{Demo}> is that when u drink glue and pretend its wine? 14:23 usually it takes me hours 14:24 aoei: did you try feuerzangenbowle yet? 14:24 stenno: yes 14:24 many times 14:24 its great 14:24 yeah 14:24 my friend also makes her own every year 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1222 points, T:2800, killed by a fire ant, while praying 14:24 and i was supposed to join on saturday 14:24 but i was too fucked up so i couldnt leave my house 14:25 blep 14:25 or sunday even 14:25 either way 14:25 i was too off my face and sleep deprived 14:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:84970 14:26 wonder if i can make the last 4 roles during this weekend 14:26 that would be cool 14:26 that would be pretty cool indeed 14:26 then i'd have 13 roles in 13 days 14:26 :o 14:27 all roles, great human, great dwarf, great orc, all alignments, all genders 14:28 then you can regret not having done that in a mere 13 days last month :^) 14:28 would have probably been different in 3.6 14:28 stupid force 14:28 also OP ?oSM lol 14:29 whatcha gonna do next stenno, given your newfound fame 14:29 well i have to finish all roles first 14:29 after that, idk 14:29 conducts, speedruns, variants 14:30 variants - training for June 14:30 be sure to set aside some time for your sponsors 14:30 and get an accountant, they can best manage the new influx of $$$ 14:30 lol 14:30 :P 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:48162 14:31 i think i am most interested in ndnh and evil 14:31 cool 14:32 do you prefer to be spiled or just have at it? 14:32 spoiled 14:32 dnh has chanced a lot since you ascended it 14:32 gotta see 14:32 worth looking at again 14:32 i will ask a lot of questions i think 14:32 if you dive into evilhack, at least read the 'about' section on the wiki for it 14:32 stop there if you dont want spoilers 14:33 alright 14:33 but yeah, the 4 missing roles first 14:34 maybe i will fail brutally 14:34 lol 14:34 hah i doubt it 14:34 once monk is done, i will feel reasonably confident 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48676 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48677 14:35 monk isn't so bad 14:37 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 14:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a giant zombie), on T:4838 14:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 17718 points, T:5170, killed by a sasquatch 14:40 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu), 9655 points, T:7011, murdered by an invisible hellcat 14:40 YES IT IS!! 14:40 :/ 14:40 lol :D 14:40 :D 14:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 513 points, T:1027, killed by an electric shock 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2199 14:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3506 14:43 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49546 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:49559 14:45 K2: has there been a pacifist evil ascension? 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3053 14:46 nope 14:46 all ascensions listed here: https://nethackscoreboard.org/ascended.evil.html 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3368 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a jaguar corpse on an altar of Tyr, on T:3380 14:47 so wishless, basically 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:49786 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3190 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3190 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:49914 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:49916 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4774 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4779 14:55 [hdf-eu] [spl] spontiff (Pri Gul Nbn Neu), 167 points, T:859, killed by a magic missile 14:56 stenno, had to step away. amateurhour is correct 14:57 <@luxidream> what is gul? 14:57 <@luxidream> ?? 14:57 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/787045314166521886/316.png 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:51839 14:57 hmm pic not loading for me 14:58 <@luxidream> it's a picture of the pokemon "gulpin" 14:58 ah there we go 14:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 10 points, T:143, killed by a kobold zombie 14:58 Uh... oops, I guess 14:58 doesn't look like a pokemon imo 14:59 it's ghoul luxidream 15:00 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Pri Inf Nbn Law), 87670 points, T:24591, quit 15:00 [hdf-us] [spl] Luxidream (Wiz Gul Fem Cha), 0 points, T:3, zapped herself with a wand 15:00 <@luxidream> ohh it's ghoul 15:00 <@luxidream> you'd think it would be ghl or something 15:01 it's cute that gul could be pronounced the same as ghoul though 15:02 And in some accents, also the same as "girl"? 15:02 <@luxidream> as we all know though, the master race needs no abbreviations >:D 15:02 ghoul, so they eat cadavers? 15:02 you're right, elf doesn't need abbreviation :^) 15:03 neither does orc 15:03 o blep 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:52170 15:03 failed the joke, sorry 15:03 it's okay stenno, they can't all be winners 15:04 bad jokes are the neccesary background radiation that makes good jokes good 15:04 bad jokes are like the dark matter of the humor universe 15:04 lol 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:52195 15:04 its all a matter of perspective anyway i guess 15:05 i am nhqdb admin, i am expert of bad jokes 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:52248 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:52295 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2849708 points, T:52318, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Okjubre/nethack/dumplog/1607467292.nh.html 15:10 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers dungeon wide on T:56228 15:12 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "marker", on T:38137 15:14 stenno: on your website is one of my favourite things of tnnt: https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3233 15:15 even tho i did not play nethack i am going to make glühwein anyway :o 15:17 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4072 15:17 o7 15:18 i ordered some food now and might try again later 15:18 but i am really really tired already 15:18 shouldn't play 15:18 yeah i got sleepy really suddenly 15:18 without getting around to actually playing 15:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38185 15:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:38187 15:19 it is like that sometimes 15:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:38195 15:23 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7193 points, T:4633, killed by a leocrotta 15:24 I just found a sufganiyah in my xnh, very cool aosdict 15:24 qt: Message from aosdict at 2020-12-10 23:12 EST: why'd you withdraw #414 15:24 qt: Message from aosdict at 2020-12-11 10:44 EST: you should do the "(illegal)" getpos polearm fix as a vanilla PR because it's a vanilla bug 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:10383 15:25 [hdf-us] [fh] Mr Sparkle (jonathanhanes) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 20339 points, T:1304, killed by a green dragon's poison gas cloud 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:54582 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:54583 15:26 I was disappointed to see there is no king cake for mardi gras, since you're doing computus anyway 15:27 as far as your first message I removed it because there were incompatibilities introduced by some of the trap bitmask changes, I'll reopen it once I have time to merge that stuff 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3754 15:28 feature request: In 3.7.0, archons also block teleport like the demon lords do it 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3809 15:28 in one of my recent asc runs i met 2 archons but could evade them easily with teleport 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1368 points, T:2870, killed by a dagger 15:29 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided arch-liches dungeon wide on T:56600 15:29 qt: hmm mardi gras completely escaped my mind 15:30 I have no problem with adding it 15:31 king cake fits so well with the idea of seasonal holiday food (though as someone from new orleans I might be biased) 15:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:38421 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha) had a leather apron entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:13272 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2972 points, T:3919, killed by a giant ant, while paralyzed by a monster 15:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:38444 15:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:38446 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Dragonslayer (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had an elven long sword entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3602 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh4] gim (cable) (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 31770 points, T:1864, killed by a dwarf lord 15:40 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 15:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13727 15:42 qt: any other mardi gras foods? jambalaya? 15:42 [hdf-us] [fh] Mr Sparkle (jonathanhanes) (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 31044 points, T:1224, quit 15:42 [hdf-us] [fh] Mr Sparkle (jonathanhanes) (Sam Hum Fem Law), 36515 points, T:1892, quit, in polyinit mode 15:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:54901 15:43 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 15:44 king cake is really the only special mardi gras-specific food that I can think of 15:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:39342 15:44 but it's mardi gras-specific to the extent that it's supposed to be bad luck to eat it outside of mardi gras season, which lasts from Jan 6 to the start of Lent 15:47 -!- howhiGh has joined #hardfought 15:47 if there's nothing else specific I wanna just throw in some other new orleans staples 15:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:39556 15:50 crawfish might be appropriate since crawfish are a seasonal dish that coincide with mardi gras, but it's not vegetarian so I don't know if it's a good fruit name 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 885 points, T:2417, killed by a gnome 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Pri Hum Mal Law) murdered Punkin, his faithful kitten, on T:831 15:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:39666 15:51 hm, are fungi vegetarian? 15:52 oh, what about beignets 15:52 Yes 15:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) stole 1092 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Droichead Atha's rare books, on T:39709 15:52 as they're not plans 15:52 e.g. lichen 15:52 that's a good new orleans thing and could be vegan 15:52 they are also vegan 15:52 plants* 15:52 becasue they are not plants 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Pri Hum Mal Law), 253 points, T:856, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted coyote, while praying 15:52 right 15:52 NetHack Is Not Real Life, remember :B 15:52 good point 15:53 whereas slime molds are not even fungi 15:53 they are slime molds 15:53 yeah - fascinating things 15:53 thank you nethack 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) became Ishtar's Envoy of Balance, on T:19662 15:53 afaik some fungus in the usa is the biggest organism in the world 15:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:39816 15:54 largest? 15:54 something like that 15:54 strictly speaking, in a non-nethack perspective, I'm not sure fungi should be vegan 15:54 that thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armillaria_ostoyae 15:54 depends on how you define vegan 15:55 if 'vegan' means 'only plant things', then fungi is not vegan 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:19482 15:55 if 'vegan' means 'no animal products' then yes 15:55 I define 'vegan' as anything which doesn't break the conduct in nethack 15:55 I guess they're not animals either 15:56 nethack definitely uses 'no animal products', eating mold is fine 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 shield of reflection", on T:16808 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Bartlem's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:16818 15:56 beignets are basically the same as sufganiyot as far as I can see so they seem pretty well suited 15:56 I can't say I've ever met anyone who described eating only plant products as vegan 15:57 they'd call that a plant-based diet 15:57 there are plants that aren't considered vegan 15:57 huh 15:57 what sort of plants aren't vegan? 15:57 avocado is one 15:57 wot 15:57 venus fly trap with fly inside 15:57 but it's how they're typically farmed 15:57 haha 15:57 why not? because they use animal meat to feed them or something 15:57 i mean not literally ofc, but something like that? 15:58 I can't remember, I'd have to ask my crackpot step brother, but he's off grid :P 15:58 so maybe not the best source, he is all in and beyond 15:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:19584 15:59 is it better to merge or rebase to fix conflicts introduced in master? 15:59 ah right, so it's about pollination - avocados depend on bees 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:19763 16:00 like most fruit.. 16:00 and beekeeping 16:00 that doesn't really seem like it is exploitative or anything, I feel like the bees wouldn't mind 16:00 imo it's better to rebase a feature branch against master 16:01 I feel the bees would quite enjoy a readily available food source 16:01 and it's not like they're chained to the hive 16:01 if i was vegan, i would be it because of ethical reasons, not out of principle lol 16:02 thanks amateurhour, I just always feel like it's a mark of shame to have that "you force-pushed this branch on XXX" message on the PR 16:02 lol 16:03 I had one once where I had based it on the wrong branch entirely 16:03 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:04 so rebased it on the correct branch and github reported that I'd force-pushed about 1000 commits 16:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:40117 16:04 resident git expert 16:04 but the difference between the pr and the correct branch was only 1 commit so the summary and differences were very clean 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:17710 16:04 you showe me the 'force-with-lease' once 16:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:04 yeah force-with-lease for the win, imo it should be the default and idk why it isn't 16:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:40132 16:06 bezaban: so the logic here is avocados are pollinated by bees, and thus profiting off the work of the bees and not vegan, and therefore anything pollinated by bees is also not vegan? 16:06 aosdict: the internet claims so 16:07 are the bees kept for that specific purpose or does it just like, happen 16:07 non-ironically think honey should be considered vegan 16:08 shrug 16:08 i am not vegan, and i don't really care what people eat or not eat 16:08 https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/10/health/avocado-almond-vegan-partner/index.html 16:08 so if your definition of vegan includes honey, go for it? 16:08 I too am not vegan and similarly don't care 16:08 but meh. It's a thing - I have no strong feelings any way. Carry on 16:08 <{Demo}> it's just an interesting thought experiment 16:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:09 I can't reopen my PR because I force pushed in the meantime? 16:09 if i was vegan or vegetarian, i would be really radical i think 16:09 is that some weird github restriction? 16:09 obviously I should never listen to you again amateurhour 16:09 yeah it seems to be lol 16:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:40188 16:09 well that's disappointing 16:09 I don't know why, since you can force-push while the PR is open without closing it 16:09 just open a new one, no big deal 16:10 I think I just have to open a new PR yeah 16:10 making a living from consuming enormous amounts of energy flipping electrons isn't great either 16:10 but it is what is 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] tsingi (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 413 points, T:1567, killed by a crossbow bolt 16:10 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:10 started with +oProt again! 16:10 unlucky 16:10 but this time with a magic marker 16:10 but still... 16:10 I mean it's not a useless spell in the early game 16:10 it's just lame 16:11 thats exactly true 16:11 I think healing is the best one in vanilla, and protection in dnh 16:11 healing is my overall favorite spell in vanilla 16:11 like, of all the spells 16:12 i think its the best 16:12 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 historic blessed very fixed partly eaten thoroughly cockatrice eggs named let me get you stoned, first one is free", on T:57397 16:12 <{Demo}> what about magic missile? 16:12 <{Demo}> or fireball? 16:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2206160 points, T:40208, ascended 16:13 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jt/nethack/dumplog/1607381294.nh.html 16:13 gratz jilles ! 16:13 <{Demo}> or identify? or charm monster? 16:14 <{Demo}> or hell, create monster 16:14 *cough*sleep*cough* 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:18602 16:14 <{Demo}> sleep is eh 16:14 <{Demo}> cause monster mr (mc really) can resist it 16:14 stand next to this minotraur and say that 16:14 not in the early game 16:15 <{Demo}> use charm monster 16:15 <{Demo}> stand next to 8 minotaurs 16:17 I had a run with charm monster, was a tou I think, an army of shades was really nice 16:18 whistle them in gehennom and surrounds the mobs - guess any phasing monster works and was better in old style gehennom 16:19 qt, my policy about force push/rebase is different 16:19 I think it's best not to rebase a branch when a pull request already exists 16:19 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.1-dev] 16:19 especially when there was a conflict: the merge commit clearly records how it was resolved 16:20 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #hardfought 16:20 and a reviewer has more chance to detect a wrong resolution 16:22 <@luxidream> K2: do you have any backups for ToneRobin? 16:23 <@luxidream> !lastgame ToneRobin 16:23 @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/ToneRobin/nethack/dumplog/1597521608.nh.html 16:23 jilles: that makes sense, I did that the last time this situation happened but then the merge commit diff listed like 200 files changed so I wasn't sure how useful it was 16:24 <@luxidream> hm looks like I didn't die 16:24 <@luxidream> but the save is missing 16:25 qt, if a lot changed in the destination branch, that's normal 16:25 luxidream ToneRobin died in that dumplog? what do you mean? 16:25 <@luxidream> current ToneRobin game is different 16:25 ah ok 16:26 lastgame will always show a dead game mobileuser lol 16:26 and for situations where you initially started from the wrong branch, I think it makes most sense to close the pull request and create a new one 16:26 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 16:26 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest65317 16:26 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 16:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1990 16:27 wtf lol 16:27 luxidream I can see it when watching 16:27 probably you need to wait an hour or something for time out 16:28 <@luxidream> ah ok 16:28 <@luxidream> when logging back in it doesn't end the stale process 16:28 <@luxidream> it just asks me for new game 16:28 <@luxidream> must be because of different version 16:28 yeah it does that... 16:28 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29 aoei I have applied the unihorn, I'm fine now :-) 16:30 -!- Guest65317 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 469 points, T:1711, killed by a dwarf 16:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:23440 16:33 jillies do you rebase after review or is a less linear git history fine? 16:34 rebase and/or squash 16:34 Hi jilles 16:36 amateurhour, either a merge commit or squashed to a single commit 16:37 github's "Rebase and merge" option does not include the pull request number in the git history and generally makes the history lie 16:37 so I have disabled it in various repositories 16:38 makes sense 16:38 a non-linear history is fine with me 16:38 interesting to see different strategies on different teams 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Dragonslayer (Kni Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:6451 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:56199 16:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4554 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Herbalist, on T:56210 16:46 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 16:48 monk with magicbane is a new one for me 16:48 i mean it makes sense 16:49 so i can keep robe slot with "oR 16:49 and then oof 16:49 pretty cool build 16:51 wait don't you need to wield magic bane for the mr? 16:52 yes 16:52 and don't you get a penalty for using a weapon as a monk? 16:52 no 16:52 i think no penalty as such 16:53 oh 16:53 but you don't get your cool grandmaster martial arts stuff 16:53 probablyat best basic skill with god-gifted magicbane 16:53 which is not actually _that_ cool 16:53 stenno: no its not really 16:53 trying to rely on martial arts is why i struggled to ascend monks 16:53 martial arts isn't that bad 16:54 compared to +6 Grays tho? :P 16:54 if you don't wear a shield or armour you get a really nice to-hit bonus that makes it really accurate 16:54 don't even get me started on 2-weapon 16:54 variants which let monks twoweapon their martial arts for the win 16:54 tbh any late game char you rarely miss if you have enchanted weapons, high xl and luck 16:54 ok that *is* cool 16:55 that's slash'em, dnh, ndnh, and eh I guess slex but you have to unlock it 16:55 eh as in the sound not as in evilhack 16:55 slex can do one 16:55 as can slash'em 16:55 slash'em monks are epic 16:55 dnh and ndnh i might give those another go 16:55 not as epic as dnh monks, but still pretty cool 16:56 i think i have a low tolerance to kitchen sinkiness 16:56 slash'em is the OG, vanilla is the kinky sitchen in this case :P 16:57 now you're not making any sense at all 16:57 monks originated in slash'em 16:57 step away from the chinese food 16:57 ohhh i see haha 16:57 i didn't realise slash'em pre-dated 343 16:57 always assumed it was a 343 fork 16:57 i mean i knew it was the oldest fork 16:58 <@luxidream> basic mb > martial arts 16:58 but still 16:58 <@luxidream> it sucks that bad :/ 16:58 lol lux 16:58 oh come on it's not _that_ bad 16:58 yes it is 16:58 it's terrible 16:58 what kinda damage we talking actually 16:58 <@luxidream> ok gm martial arts: avg 9.25 16:58 mb is like a defensive offensive wepoan 16:58 it doesn't really do that much damage either 16:58 average 9 damage ooff 16:59 and you get MR 16:59 <@luxidream> +7 mb resisted: 10.5 16:59 orcus will be shaking in their boots 17:00 fine okay in terms of the numbers it's lower 17:00 but the 0 time to get it, from the start of the game 17:00 it's fine, could use a power up but it's not like it's worthless 17:00 basically unless you're really insistent on keeping weaponless conduct 17:00 people be acting like it's better to throw rocks or something 17:00 you should be switching to something else 17:00 eventually 17:01 <@luxidream> i think it's good early because it's very accurate 17:01 I'd love to try ascending a weaponless monk, learning to pick your battles is pretty on-brand for the Shaolin stereotype 17:01 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu), 334 points, T:1619, sent to the next life by a soldier ant 17:01 yeah early game monks just flat out rock 17:01 Go team a! 17:02 <@luxidream> umbire: mostly you just punch everything but it takes longer 17:02 I know haha 17:02 <@luxidream> lol 17:02 what I'm trying to think of is, do they take skill in spear? 17:02 hm i dont think so umby 17:02 <@luxidream> basic 17:03 <@luxidream> they have basic qstaff so could use aesculapius if you really wanted to 17:03 oh heh yeah spear basic 17:04 staff, spear, crossbow, shuriken 17:04 those are all basic 17:04 everything else is spells or martial arts 17:04 brb 17:08 dagger also basic if you get MBane 17:08 hmm 17:08 what do you usually use for your monks luxi? 17:08 I was asking because I was contemplating the feasibility of chucking projectiles besides shuriken 17:08 (no I'm still not over the spear damage I got with my ongoing cavewoman shut up) 17:10 damn just hit the bug where a crystal wand generates on the holes on sokoban 17:10 rip wand 17:10 hope it wasnt wishing 17:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:20796 17:10 it was 17:10 aosdict: not only is that polearm thing in vanilla but my xnh commit missed addressing a number of cases where different polearm checks are misaligned. I will definitely submit an expanded vanilla PR about it 17:11 <@luxidream> amateurhour: excal 17:11 <@luxidream> or whatever weapon I can get through sacrificing 17:11 <@luxidream> sadly your crowning gift prevents you from getting swords 17:12 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 17:12 do you opt to wear armour too? 17:13 <@luxidream> yeah then I use polyself to remove the penalty 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Dragonslayer (Kni Elf Mal Cha) had a pair of copper boxing gloves entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7282 17:14 Master monk flayer >>> 17:15 stenno: I usually just set on autopickup to grab the item and drop through 17:15 when anything generates on those holes 17:15 that doesn't work anymore. 17:15 oh what 17:15 <@luxidream> fill the hole and dig it up 17:15 that's piss 17:15 Yeah that sounds like the move then 17:15 <@luxidream> but yeah I usually use elvenking actually 17:15 <@luxidream> because I hate mmfs 17:16 <@luxidream> maybe that has changed in 3.7 17:16 mm fair enough 17:16 besides actually being able to hit acid-passive monsters and footrices is honestly p. nice 17:16 i also dislike mmf but never thought to use elvenking as polyform :o 17:17 damn, sokoboh 17:17 i already have that one 17:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6957 17:17 <@luxidream> aoei: it's just like better human, nothing really special 17:17 @Luxidream mmf are super chill in 3.7 lol 17:17 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18 better huamn still better than human lux 17:18 if you have rest ability, don't mind get your brain eaten a bit 17:18 :forehead: 17:18 <@luxidream> gives you gops + twoweaponing your artifact with itself 17:18 what's gops? 17:18 gauntlet of power 17:18 <@luxidream> 18/** strength 17:18 <@luxidream> basically gauntlets of power 17:18 <@luxidream> so like vamp lord 17:18 <@luxidream> strong monster 17:18 ohhh yeah right 17:19 duh 17:19 so like zero downsides 17:19 yeye 17:19 -!- howhiGh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:19 <@luxidream> elf can't turn into elvenking so maybe that's why you haven't thought of it 17:19 i was about to ask XD 17:19 useful if i play other races tho 17:19 cool 17:20 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 17:20 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:20 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 17:20 oh6: why do you have so many 3.7 ascensiosn 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Sorceress, on T:61208 17:21 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:22776 17:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:22 -!- AlbertB has left #hardfought 17:22 -!- AlbertB has joined #hardfought 17:22 fucking monk has no Pw 17:23 yo8 17:23 yo6* 17:23 Hi, just got: A mysterious force creates a cave around you! on the plane of earth. 17:23 Is this a new feature/thing? 17:24 Nope, that's normal 17:24 It can happen while digging with a pick-axe there 17:24 <@luxidream> blessed pick 17:25 Never got this before. 17:25 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:25 Well now you know 17:25 YANI/YASI: The Elvenking and minotaur that spawn on the Plane of Earth should be unique named characters 17:26 <@luxidream> they're named "ettin" and "the Wizard of Yendor" 17:26 obs is being stupid i will have to "stream" using dgamelaunch i guess 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] ezion (Val Dwa Fem Law), 352 points, T:1169, killed by a kitten 17:27 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 17:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "holy fixed +5 speed boots", on T:18165 17:29 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3889 17:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 346 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:18489 17:33 zodiac cypher has been cracked 17:33 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Page of Claws, on T:4568 17:33 wtf i lost juiblex 17:33 :/ 17:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3247 17:36 stenno: wait what really 17:36 yeah 17:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 298 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:18811 17:36 340 cipher 17:36 pretty boring 17:37 yeah, guy apparently had poison resist intristic 17:37 ok found vlad 17:37 nice 17:38 Luxi pls 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:56648 17:42 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:56782 17:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4867 17:49 <{Demo}> watch out for vlad the inhaler 17:49 <{Demo}> with his whippets 17:49 what is warning supposed to be 17:50 is the hero supposed to have a sense of where the monster is and its shape and size? or is it supposed to be a more general uneasy feeling 17:51 I feel like it's less precise than ESP or detect monsters in terms of allowing the hero to target a warned monster 17:52 damn i genocided master mind flayers so i cant use that form vs vlad 17:52 foolish 17:53 wasted a poly charge:( 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:19073 17:54 ok it's true 17:54 vlad is still a pushover lol 17:54 beat him with a +6 quarterstaff 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:19074 17:54 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:56793 17:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:5555 17:56 omfg 17:57 i am in my temple in minetown, i locked it from the inside so i can do some saccing 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 948 points, T:1246, killed by a horned devil 17:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:5643 17:57 didn't realize i also locked in a watchguard 17:57 heh 17:57 he wants to help 17:57 so now when i want to unlock it, i get 'hey, stop unlocking...' 17:57 sac the guard 17:57 'stop picking that lock' 17:57 i am human :/ 17:58 chaotic? 17:58 but i also have a key 17:58 neutral 17:58 ah 17:58 "If you're going to complain, then at least help us get out of there" 17:58 in evilhack they unlock doors themselves if they have a key 17:59 hm how do i alchemy up some full heal pots 17:59 they do 17:59 <@luxidream> that's vanilla behavior 17:59 not tanky enough imo 17:59 mobileuser: in vanilla too 17:59 they also unlock other things 18:00 ah is that only watch guards in vanilla? 18:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Mal Cha) stole 15 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Senna Hut's hardware store, on T:5899 18:00 <@luxidream> i think there's a minetown variant k2 stole from spork 18:00 <@luxidream> that has a watch captain with a key 18:00 <@luxidream> it's the one with the mastodon 18:01 no, all intelligent (humanoid?) monsters will unlock doors 18:01 if they have a key 18:01 which they don't 18:01 so it doesn't matter 18:01 @luxidream yup 18:01 but they would if they had one 18:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:19245 18:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6107 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:27841 18:03 lol should i try to get crowned 18:03 why not i guess 18:03 early fire resistance 18:03 light blue aura 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2620 points, T:3603, killed by a rothe 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:56857 18:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:8612 18:06 ah ok stenno in evilhack they actually pick up and use keys 18:06 now i have tanky AC 18:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:8657 18:06 lul 18:07 vorpal blade goes snicker snack 18:07 hmm 18:07 but i will still use MB i think 18:08 oh fuck 18:08 demogorgon lol 18:08 <@luxidream> oo 18:08 <@luxidream> how exciting 18:09 welp F 18:09 lets see if i can survive this 18:09 shame i don't have an insta-wish atm, a rubber chicken sure would have been nice 18:09 i guess if i magic missile the bastard it might give me a breather 18:10 magic missile probablydoes more damage than my crappy +3 Magicbane 18:10 hoooo crud 18:11 crikey! 18:12 hm how many turns do i ahve while termill 18:12 i managed to quaff full heal and i still have an extra turn 18:12 but im also still termill lol 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:38767 18:12 Status of Demogorgon (chaotic): Level 50 HP 187(200) AC -8 18:12 nice 18:12 im so gonna die 18:13 actually if i melee the bastard, magicbane might stun them 18:13 maybe that's better than trying to magicmissile? oh right it also won't go away to heal because we're all three of us by the upstairs lol 18:14 yeah im think im pretty dead 18:14 haha now yeenoghu is also here 18:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) averted death (poisoned by Demogorgon), on T:19473 18:15 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10061 18:15 * tinklebear waves to Yeenoghu 18:15 lol who's sending me mail 18:15 as if im gonna read it now 18:16 <@luxidream> i mean you're probably going to die next turn 18:16 <@luxidream> wasn't me btw 18:16 does reading scare monster still scare them? 18:17 i'm the only mail demon. 18:17 <@luxidream> hm maybe not 18:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:17 lol don't read it 18:17 well standing on it doesn't work anymore 18:17 just curious if reading works 18:17 lmao i somehow escaped 18:17 nice! 18:17 idk what im gonna do about that leveltho 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 2807846 points, T:56880, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AlbertB/nethack/dumplog/1607102925.nh.html 18:17 gratz AlbertB 18:17 dig through / !oGL through 18:18 note to self demogorgon on level 43 18:18 you're a wizard faerie 18:18 amateurhour: Thanks! 18:18 grats AlbertB 18:18 it must have been a vanilla ascension cuz I DIDN"T SEE IT 18:18 y'all remmebe rhow just like earlier today i was going on about never having met demogorgon 18:18 grats i guess 18:18 wellll 18:19 have you got some whack irc filters on spicycat? 18:19 During tnnt I had an ascencion ready healer that dyed on the quest. 18:19 12 days late I did it. 18:19 nice one! 18:19 amateurhour: yep, i like being able to actually read chat in this channel 18:19 so if I put nh370 in my message can you see me calling you a weeny? 18:19 so i filter out anything in vanilla nethack, cuz it's so popular, and slex, cuz people just die and it's not worth knowing how far they got 18:20 ok you know what that's me done for tonight 18:20 i will figure out wtf to do with these horrible demons another time 18:20 probably a footrice corpse won't go amiss 18:20 a footrice corpse and a cheeky bit of controlled levport 18:21 nh370 spicycat more like spicycant see this amiright 18:21 ultimately, i want to punt Beholder messages into a separate buffer, so that i can read *all* of them at my leisure, but for now i filter out a lot of Beholder's less interesting messages 18:21 amateurhour: :P 18:21 i still have a "oLS left 18:21 :D 18:21 oh wait i gotta read that mail 18:21 i think most deaths get filtered too 18:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible krm26's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:16852 18:21 I just gray out beholder so it's not visually obvious compared to the text 18:21 oh nooo i read it while confused 18:21 i'll never know waht it said 18:22 and set channel activity to ignore them 18:22 so can see which nethack channels actually have messages from people 18:22 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:22 hey can you blank scrolls of mail? 18:23 if you're ever running low on blank scrolls can we just send you a load of them? 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] aosdict (Mon Hum Mal Law), 382819 points, T:58283, killed by a newt called I wonder if spicycat can see this one 18:23 christ that got hairy real fast 18:23 still can't believe my orc wiz isn't dead 18:23 aosdict: you're not Beholder 18:24 on the plus side, survived Demogorgon encounter 18:24 but Demogorgon is still alive 18:24 NOT TODAY, DEMOGORGON 18:24 amateurhour: unlike DevTeam scrolls in TNNT, you can't get mail scrolls wet 18:24 tinklebear: ;D 18:24 lol i could just skip to castle from here 18:24 T:10k so 18:24 eh i will take it slow 18:25 spicycat: seems like a standard rule patch 18:25 ah, fair enough 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] aosdictj (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 116 points, T:169, killed by a gecko called hi amateurhour I think this is probably sneaky enough 18:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:19608 18:27 one demon down 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] aosdictj (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:79, killed by a jackal called spicycat spicycat spicycat 18:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rougelike (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4 points, T:67, killed by a goblin called I wonder if spicycat will be confused by the other bot 18:27 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 18:28 * tinklebear blushes 18:28 ok that must be a bot 18:28 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:28 ok so I have Orcus and Demogorgo directly above 18:28 rougelike 18:28 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 18:28 Neko-chan: it is 18:28 rougelike 18:28 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 18:28 lol 18:28 i for one am a big fan of pinklikes 18:28 moulin rouge 18:28 it's only that one typo btw 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] aosdictj (Arc Hum Mal Law) murdered does spicycat check for livelogs too? let's find out, his faithful little dog, on T:2 18:28 mp 18:28 i like moulin rouge 18:29 me too 18:29 red bandana new item when 18:29 @luxidream: I can do the book, invocation and amulet without disturbing the Orcus/Domogorgon tagteam level 18:29 so i should just continue and worry about them later, right? 18:29 i hear the pings but i'm not turnin off the filter :P 18:30 :D 18:30 <@luxidream> since you escaped I'd just write cursed geno and take them out 18:30 cursed geno for c corpse yeah? 18:30 that was my first thought 18:30 <@luxidream> right 18:31 also if i leave them til later i'll probs forget and land in a bad situation again lol 18:31 <@luxidream> it's no-tele 18:31 <@luxidream> probably a bad idea 18:32 <@luxidream> oh, any level is no-tele with a demon prince on it 18:32 <@luxidream> so kind of a moot point I suppose 18:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:10747 18:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:19699 18:35 nooo wrong levle 18:35 Oh yeah shit you right 18:35 That's a 3.7 thing isn't it Luxi? 18:35 <@luxidream> right 18:35 * Umbire still has the ATT tab open 18:35 right 18:36 Umbire: assuming ATT lacks a nice upcoming template like nethackwiki has (and I don 18:36 don't see why it would), 18:36 It does have {{outdated}} 18:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:19723 18:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:19725 18:37 phew 18:37 I've been sticking in 3.7 stuff as out so far I think 18:37 aoei: good shit 18:37 attempting to describe nethack as it is now with some people on 3.6.6 and some on 3.7.0 seems like it'd become mired in a bunch of qualifications that someone will just need to go back later and amend 18:38 we try to avoid version-qualified statements on nethackwiki, I'd hate to see that carry over to other things describing nethack 18:38 That's why I have it qualified 18:38 ugghhh 18:38 ...commented out* 18:38 because I was wielding the c corpse and not Magicbane 18:38 muh braaaaain 18:39 and wearing "oLS and not the Eye 18:39 ...oh no. 18:39 OH NO. 18:39 PLEASE NO. 18:39 in that one turn Orcus managed to destroy my speed boots 18:39 oh 18:39 oh 18:39 <@luxidream> lol 18:39 goddamnit man I thought you died 18:39 yeah anticlimactic a bit 18:39 >:[ 18:39 <@luxidream> you have haste self idk why you wished for that 18:39 given where you clearly thoguth that was going 18:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products (gnome king) for the first time, on T:12023 18:39 lol good point lux 18:39 derp 18:39 so dumb 18:39 i rarely use haste self i guess 18:39 so i didnt think of it 18:40 Umbire: well, someone is still going to need to go back later and edit everything so it's now consistent with 3.7, is my point. 18:40 ugh that's such a mood 18:40 i guess i can just enchant up my water walking boots instead 18:40 aosdict: But yeah, ATT is the kind of thing that by nature is always gonna be updating as works change and develop, which is whatever 18:40 as a vegan who accidentally breaks vegan conduct too often, my heart goes out to you stenno 18:40 comes with the territory, perf. fine doing it 18:40 lol thanks Neko-chan 18:40 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 18:41 <@luxidream> the world doesn't know when you break vegan conduct irl 18:41 I genuinely enjoy filling my nerd brain with shit like this, everything else aside 18:41 all my friends seem to!!! 18:41 @luxidream i do indeed have hast self 18:41 like when I found out what marshmellows were made of 18:41 76% fail but i guess i can #enhance if i use it a bit 18:41 Commenting them in is my way of reducing the amount of going back that I or anyone else interested would have to do 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:902 18:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:28196 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gargoyle, on T:18236 18:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9848 18:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1561 18:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:19931 18:49 so does minotaur respect ?oSM in 3.7? 18:49 Uhhhhhhh 18:49 * Umbire goes to check 18:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:19995 18:50 It still should, looks like 18:50 ok 18:50 i will keep an escape item with me anyway 18:50 as you should 18:50 but i think he will just one-hit me lol 18:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:20004 18:51 The minotaur turns to flee. 18:51 thanks, Umbire 18:51 :3 18:51 sweet 18:51 _slightly_ op lol 18:51 i should probs go to bed 18:51 before i fuck up sanctum or asc run horribly 18:51 lol 18:52 ye 18:53 yolo 18:53 survived Demogorgon tho phew holy shit 18:53 i was sure i was a gonner 18:55 woop 18:56 roflmao! 18:56 me at castle, conflicting 18:56 outside of the castle 18:57 xorn fights with some soldiers in one of the turrets 18:57 i throw boulder in moat, xorn comes to me, i kill him 18:57 he drop a chest(!) 18:57 it is _the_ chest 18:57 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57554 18:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11698 18:57 i got the castle WoW by standing in front of the castle for 100 turns 18:58 hahaha nice 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1748 points, T:2127, killed by a soldier ant 18:58 thats super silly lol 18:58 also castle wow is 0:3 18:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:48419 18:59 imma just yolo-wish for OOF with 2 artis already generated 18:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed orb of fate", on T:13109 18:59 got it~ 18:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Brigand, on T:11771 18:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:13110 19:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:13111 19:01 * tinklebear seems to remember that evilhack has truly functional castle turrets, with iron bars. 19:03 shit lux was right i coulda had a whole extra wish left still 19:03 instead i used it on speed boots 19:04 Speed boots are good though. How long does haste self last? 19:04 200 ? 19:04 you're worth it, aoei 19:05 yeah you can re-cast haste as needed tho 19:05 having the boot does make life easier 19:05 less brain cells required 19:05 <@luxidream> it stacks with no cap 19:05 <@luxidream> just cast it a million a times 19:07 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Cthulhu, on T:57596 19:07 nice 19:08 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Gel Mal Cha), 1694 points, T:1397, quit 19:09 -!- spleen has joined #hardfought 19:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:09 I mean, if you're going to wish for a bunch of stuff, you should make at least one useless wish, right? 19:10 woah. Entered sokoban and it's level 2A instead of 1A or 1B! This is Un 19:11 <@luxidream> my grandfather's ascension kit has no pathetic wishes! 19:11 wow, and the ?oEarth are there like they would be in 1A/B 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Dragonslayer (Kni Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:9469 19:12 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Cthulhu, on T:57676 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Dragonslayer (Kni Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful lesser nightmare, on T:9473 19:12 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Jed Ang Mal Law), 539 points, T:284, killed by a monster (iron golem) 19:15 [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3204 points, T:3395, killed by a bolt of fire 19:15 well, that was weird. 19:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:1044 19:15 luxidream: a +2 scimitar, lev boots, and mithril. that about right? and the wish was for the boots! 19:15 aoei: haste self is cumulative. So you can castit 20 times for 4000 turns worth of speed. 19:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:13622 19:16 bouquet: luxidream beat you to it there 19:16 what? Am I supposed to backscroll like a commoner!? 19:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:20300 19:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] aoei (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:20303 19:17 bouquet: like 10 messages prior 19:17 :P 19:17 too much work for Friday after 4 19:17 [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Car Snl Fem Cha), 157 points, T:805, killed by a monster (small er) 19:18 ok i said earlier i would to to bed and not do sanctum 19:18 but now i think i should really actually go to bed and not do asc run 19:18 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:19 i was already tipsy when i did vlads, orcus and yeenoghu/demogorgon etc. 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:21022 19:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:13862 19:22 TIL magic harps can still tame gray dragons 19:22 t. had to retame one of his pets 19:24 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.1-dev] 19:25 night all 19:25 sleep well aoei 19:25 night 19:25 good luck tomorrow aoei 19:26 thx tinklebear 19:26 Night! 19:26 And gl 19:27 -!- spicycat has quit [Quit: spicycat] 19:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 648 points, T:2231, killed by a small mimic 19:29 hmm should i keep my magic harp or polypile it 19:29 guess i keep it 19:29 can be useful in an emergency 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Dragonslayer (Kni Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:10082 19:33 RIP, Arahael's ghost 19:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:14173 19:40 -!- amateurhour has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:43 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 19:44 asdf 19:44 ghjkl; 19:44 Hello, cats 19:44 sorry. Had a network hiccup. 19:45 Run away! Run away! 19:46 best time to clear votd 19:46 hi Pinkbeast 19:46 that was a beautiful and graceful glissando, Pinkbeast 19:46 rr 19:47 so assuming the following 19:47 you have like, a wand of cancellation in inventory 19:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:14670 19:47 3you accidentally sele- 19:47 hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 19:47 ldkghsjdklhgkjsdfhgsdfjkhgdf 19:47 NO 19:47 <{Demo}> rip 19:47 arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 19:48 did you start talking about wands of cancellation before blowing up the bag or 19:48 so i assume that in 3.7 19:48 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:48 well i closed the connection at the --More-- prompt 19:48 that used to work at devnull 19:49 errr wait 19:49 my shit is all over the place 19:49 3.7 19:49 like is that a part of of my shit or is that all my shit 19:49 also i need a new boh 19:49 lol 19:49 it is on average 12/13 of it 19:50 minus shatterables like potions perhaps 19:50 mmm 19:50 there is my wow 19:50 praise 3.7 19:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding named ahem", on T:14688 19:51 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52 stenno: I wonder if you will find any non-fragile items missing 19:52 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:52 found my magic marker 19:52 hmm 19:52 so far, indeed i haven't seen any potions i think 19:52 2 potions so far 19:52 I think if a fragile item gets thrown in a direction where it hits no walls it may be safe 19:52 wand of polymorph was crystal 19:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3005 19:52 lets see if i can find that one 19:53 * tinklebear had a bag asplosion the other day. thinks maybe some non-fragile stuff disappeared, but is not sure 19:53 Alright so my computer freaked out midway through that 19:53 Sten probably got this answer already but yeah, BoHsplosions don't completely wipe your items 19:53 so in my experience blowing up boh in 3.7, which I have done multiple times because I am smart and beautiful, stacks of potions will break one at a time and often remain (e.g. 12 of your 15 holy water) but single ones are almost def gonners 19:54 Ooh, was a question of stackables also 19:54 (didn't know that part, either, TIL) 19:55 yeah pretty sure the wand of poly didn't survive 19:55 tinklebear: yeah, all item stacks have a 1/13 chance of poofing 19:55 its a bit sad but i wont complain 19:55 like with cursed boh 19:55 found my wow, found my magic marker 19:55 hmm very few rings 19:55 oh but thats ok 19:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3265 points, T:3417, killed by strangulation, while helpless 19:58 a minor setback 19:58 oh no but my potions of gain level 19:58 Interesting. Thank you aosdict and Neko-chan. 19:58 gotta kill another wraith or revgeno them 19:58 this is why I have a special bag labelled !!DANGER!! for /oCancel so I don't block up my BoH any more. 19:58 oh far can they fly? 19:58 Same same bouquet 19:59 and it's highlighted and underlined in bright orange so I don't forget about it. 19:59 lol, bouquet. it's all so much muscle memory. I could call the thing anything at all. wouldn't help me. 19:59 like they flight in line of sight from the center? 19:59 the wand only comes out for blanking and then goes right back in. 20:00 I put my BoH on 'x' so it's always at the same place. I make sure to put the !!DANGER!! sack on a capitalized letter so I don't easily throw it into the BoH. 20:00 at least you get some of the contents back now. 20:00 (my gain levels survived, but only because I forgot to bring them with me into gehennom...) 20:00 !tell qt you tried to sneak in a segfault eh? caught you 20:00 I'm on it, aosdict. 20:01 though, I feel like a mystical device like a BoH should evaporate everything like it did bitd. 20:01 hmm i think my lizard corpse is gone lol 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:24770 20:02 peculiar 20:02 oh wait here it is 20:04 -!- star_cloud has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Dragonslayer (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 17377 points, T:12044, killed by an air elemental 20:05 oh shit my holy water is gone too 20:05 thats a bit more serious 20:06 * tinklebear is almost to turn 73k, and has not seen a single potion of holy water 20:07 atheist? 20:07 i assume you are aware of conf c?oRC 20:08 yes. atheist as always. trying illiteracy out. 20:08 ooh 20:08 oh thats a nice combo 20:08 are you priest? 20:08 very interesting so far. lol. 20:08 orcish rogue. 20:08 oh wow 20:08 so you have no way to find out the BUC of your items 20:09 gotta guess from stacking behavior 20:09 or pet testing 20:09 watching stacks is good. pet-testing has gotten a little boring for me. 20:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:16347 20:10 lately I just try stuff out and find out if it's cursed. you know, as a surprise. 20:10 ...i see 20:10 ...though I pay attention to where things come from.. 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 129 points, T:330, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted sewer rat 20:10 blown up a lot of magic traps... and polyself helps a lot 20:11 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 20:11 but, now i'm hiding in a closet on Vlad's ground floor, wondering what the hell to do about the archon. 20:11 -!- star_cloud has joined #hardfought 20:12 funny, i got an archon there too in my last runs 20:12 summons nasties right as I enter the doorway. Thanks! 20:13 almost exploded my tourist BoH just now jesus 20:14 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 20:14 guess i do lower mines before quest 20:14 to, like, collect potions lol 20:15 good luck down there 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:25641 20:17 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:60092 20:17 found magic lamp 20:17 a promising start 20:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 71115 points, T:17026, killed by a minotaur 20:17 D:! 20:18 go team H 20:20 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 20:20 -!- spicycat has joined #hardfought 20:23 -!- Kontroll1r has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:23 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided electric eels dungeon wide on T:60213 20:26 okay does anyone else try raising baby monsters they tame to their grown up forms 20:26 or is it just me 20:26 mimic of the mines 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:1592 20:28 Umbire: I do that all the time 20:30 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/787129119224758312/Screenshot_20201211-202842.png 20:30 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/787129119569608784/Screenshot_20201211-202848.png 20:30 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/787129119800426506/Screenshot_20201211-202852.png 20:30 Neko-chan: :D 20:30 oh a dragon!! 20:30 Not pictured: Coalton, tame stone golem who is camera-shy (but also ESP proof) 20:30 is that a trapper 20:30 a gray dragon too 20:30 aosdict: Purple worm 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3919 points, T:1229, killed by a soldier 20:31 Trapper and lurker above share the same tiles in Nevanda (mass of tentacles) 20:31 I like trolls as pets 20:31 I hate trappers, all my homies genocide t 20:31 my baby nagas always die. 20:32 I've never been a big naga fan tbh 20:32 Nagas are neat but not something I seek out as pets 20:32 (unless golden or guardian) 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:30, killed by a bolt of cold 20:32 Nevanda nagas bug me because the tilemaker was clearly thinking of lamia 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed billum's ghost, the former Digger, on T:1866 20:36 aw damnit, water demon while I was dipping 20:36 <@luxidream> it probably is a lamia 20:36 didn't even give me a wish, the heaux 20:36 <@luxidream> nevanda is all stolen sprites 20:36 ...wait, really? 20:36 umbire is thinking "ooh I can trope this!" 20:36 <@luxidream> Yep 20:36 Fuck, says right in the description too 20:37 aosdict: bold of you to think I'm not constantly thinking this 20:37 <@luxidream> I recognize some from final fantasy on here 20:37 <@luxidream> but not others 20:37 well that's annoying 20:37 I heard some buzz about final fantasy yesterday 20:37 * Umbire gives aosdict dis pear 20:38 Eh, free tiles compiled from free assets for a free game, but it still bothers me that I somehow thought it was all from scratch 20:38 (that and just the principle of the thing) 20:39 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "historic very holy blessed diluted rustproof fixed thoroughly magic harp named camille or kennerly you figure out which is which", on T:60310 20:39 lolwut 20:43 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 20:45 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Jes Dee Mal Cha), 447 points, T:533, killed by a noob pollax 20:45 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 20:48 "You freed me!" 20:49 nno 20:49 mmp 20:49 ah well it should be fine 20:49 an archon just "freed me", that's for sure 20:49 F 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1611 points, T:1575, killed by an ape 20:50 stenno: What was your smoky potion again? 20:50 also sick, create monster wand spawned soldiers 20:50 haven't i'ded it yet 20:50 free food for me and the crew 20:51 -!- luxidream has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:51 and plenty of spare boots 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 835236 points, T:73496, killed by an invisible Archon 20:51 !lastgame 20:52 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/antigulp/nethack/dumplog/1607736907.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jt/nethack/dumplog/1607724667.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/nethack/dumplog/1607254692.nh.html 20:52 !lastgame tinklebear 20:52 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/nethack/dumplog/1607226959.nh.html 20:52 Oh wow, you got *fucked* 20:52 yeah... 20:52 Came off a bad polymorph looked like, what was it? 20:52 no shame dying to an archon 20:52 Went out fighting, respec 20:53 just got lucky one too few times... 20:53 Can Vlad's Tower have bones? 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2928 20:53 doubt it. 20:53 level 2 can 20:53 vlad obviously can't 20:53 not sure why level 1 can't 20:54 didn't see much sign of a grave, or previous fights. 20:54 or is it level 3... its internal name is 'tower3' 20:54 probably to prevent shenanigans involving the entrance to a non-optional branch? 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3188 20:54 just looked like a archon and angel joined the welcome comittee 20:54 archons can spawn naturally in vlad's because it's not Gehennom 20:54 ^ 20:54 I'm just wondering if your splat leaves bones 20:54 cool. 20:55 Oh. yeah, I don't know. 20:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Cav Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4432 20:55 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:60440 20:55 go hothraxxa go! 20:56 tinklebear: Anyway, your name. What is the origin? 20:56 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed historic very partly eaten unlit thoroughly figurine of a woodchuck named carl of marx, people's hero and champion of the workers", on T:60447 20:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3850 20:56 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Enlil, on T:10441 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3911 20:57 GG? 20:57 ugh I hate feeling obligated to wield a long sword 20:57 but snickersnaps, Neko! D: 20:57 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1094527 points, T:60448, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/unnethack/dumplog/1607354115.un.txt.html 20:57 GG! 20:57 I do love to slay the jabbewock 20:57 oh wow gg hothraxxa 20:57 Umbire: There's a picture... An illustration of a grue somewhere. let me see if I can find it. 20:57 there's a snicker snack rumor to be made here somewhere 20:58 Weird 20:58 i double-checked the altar this time 20:58 Because I always thought of the Bomberman enemy 20:58 Neko-chan: you can keep it around for disenchanter-stabbing 20:59 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/787136388797693973/firefox_nJj8zp9JVc.png 20:59 Bomberman Quest was one of my first games 20:59 (if not the first) 20:59 that I ever owned 21:00 Oop, horde of giants 21:01 adding a false rumor: "They say that if you get hungry you can invoke Vorpal Blade for a snicker snack." 21:01 does this mean I get dev credit? :D 21:01 aosdict: LMAFO 21:01 when you invoke it, it should just say a random line from the jabberwock poem 21:02 This but unironically 21:02 hothraxxa \o/ 21:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Waters, on T:18525 21:02 Umbire: wow. Never seen that. it's cool. 21:03 actually, YANI: invoking VB causes its keen edge to gleam or something, giving increased chance of a decapitation on the next hit 21:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6167 21:03 only 15 z-score behind tariru now 21:03 62 streak when 21:06 I also thought up a new epitaph 21:06 "Here lies Mittens the housecat, used up his wand of undead turning (0:8)." 21:07 hah 21:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:24628 21:08 Umbire: basically, it seemed like a good name for this familiar, in another game: https://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Grue 21:09 ...sort of an inverted tinkerbell 21:09 I know what grues are, granted I've not seen many depictions of them 21:09 >Kingdom of Loathing 21:09 oh 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:11096 21:10 depictions are, naturally enough, difficult to come by 21:10 grues come from zork 21:10 they do indeed 21:10 I know 21:10 instant death in the dark 21:10 A couple of variants added them 21:11 I need to play through zork at some point 21:11 that illustration, though, is the answer to Umbire's question re my nick 21:11 unspoiled, figuring it all out as I go 21:11 Good luck when you do 21:11 a great game 21:12 * tinklebear still doesn't know what the hell the moby ruby is for 21:12 don't tell me! 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:12541 21:17 hmm 21:17 might just die here 21:17 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:18 base MR 10 21:18 so if i apply tooled horn against master kaen, will he flee? 21:18 * tinklebear would not be hopeful, but knows nothing 21:18 -!- hisacro has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18 unfortunately hitting him with a potion of paralysis only paralyzed him like 2 turns 21:19 fortunate for master kaen! 21:19 i coul tame him with magic harp i guess? 21:20 he only has MR 10 and eoto only gives MR on worn 21:20 * tinklebear cannot believe master kaen wouldn't wear the damn glasses 21:21 quest nemesis can never be made peaceful 21:21 have to go for the horn 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:15179 21:22 @luxidream you know if kaen will flee from tooled horn? 21:22 if i'm reading the wiki correctly, it looks like a promising option. but I would hesitate to trust my reading comprehension 21:22 he has monMR 10 and i am, ahem, adjacent 21:23 pretty sure this is my only option anyway 21:23 if i die here, i will try again tomorrow then 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15501 21:23 and that time without bohsplosion 21:24 hmm 21:24 air elemental nearby turned to flee 21:24 master kaen doenst do shit 21:24 maybe i can move away from him 21:24 * Umbire sweats 21:25 lightly caress him instead, make him feel uncomfortable 21:25 that's the key to beating master kaen 21:25 Might be able to kick him away by some real off chance? 21:26 boulder fort and a whole lotta rocks 21:26 not sleep res 21:26 notably susceptible 21:26 -!- hisacro has joined #hardfought 21:26 can't hit him lol 21:27 you doing all this off the cuff stenno? no plan is the plan? 21:27 Yeah the hitting's the problem when you DO find a weakness in a quest nemesis 21:27 well my plan was hitting him with !oPara 21:27 but he was like 3 turns para'd 21:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:16387 21:28 think 1-25 is possible range 21:29 he has my oof but that shouldn't make that much of a difference 21:30 Master Kaen turns to flee. 21:30 see 21:30 do i need to tele to upstairs now? 21:30 i think so 21:30 make him feel awkward, he bolts 21:30 lol wand of death on level 1 21:31 take that, grid bugs! 21:31 hmm he is gone lol 21:32 He probably warped to the upstairs and then went up them 21:32 yeah he went up 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 37875 points, T:17977, quit 21:34 -!- hisacro has quit [Quit: \o|] 21:35 @luxidream What fucked the run? 21:35 anyone ever commit to using Tsurugi of Muramasa? 21:36 or is it just for points in the astral bar n' grill? 21:36 Pretty sure I ascended a barbarian with it, as main weapon, with HoOA or something like that 21:37 hmm could polyself 21:37 but idk if there's a polyform which is stronger than kaen lol 21:37 bouquet: I also find it nice, as a samurai, when polymorphed into a form that can't two-weapon 21:37 -!- hisacro has joined #hardfought 21:37 could try the paralysis hit again 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1509 points, T:1940, quit 21:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:19559 21:39 that worked 21:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19560 21:41 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1220 points, T:1336, quit 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 167 points, T:245, killed by a gnome 21:42 woop stenno 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:30024 21:42 did you get his number? 21:42 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Enlil, on T:14658 21:43 please stop giving me long swords omg 21:43 SIKE! It's the wrong number! 21:43 i've never ever seen anyone complain about get vorpal and frost brand 21:43 *getting 21:43 lol stenno 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:53390 21:44 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2309 points, T:4827, killed by a pony 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 891 points, T:1566, killed by a piranha 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10430 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5038 points, T:1823, quit 21:49 K2: I'm broken, honestly. I just wanna ride around on my dragon and joust stuff 21:49 :) 21:50 tie vorpal onto the end of a spear 21:50 also the I did a little ninja nethack and you know the secret upside about reading amnesia as my very first scroll is that now I can confidently read the rest of my scrolls 21:50 \o/ 21:50 so long as I don't you know, set myself on fire 21:50 nethack crafting system when 21:51 like that simpsons episode with the gun that's five guns 21:51 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:51 I want that but a lance with frost bane, vorpal blade etc etc 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10895 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 714 points, T:1152, killed by a wand 21:56 <@luxidream> umby: forgot my scrolls of earth got blanked 21:56 <@luxidream> could have gone up to look for stuff but then just quit instead 21:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 cloak of protection", on T:54848 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1275 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1084 points, T:2018, killed by a system shock 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2196 22:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:22, killed by a fox 22:04 next time i have to write down when i read which spellbook 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1763 points, T:2378, quit 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 34 points, T:9, killed by a goblin 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 38 points, T:321, killed by a scroll of earth 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 20 points, T:53, killed by a fox 22:12 -!- luxidream has joined #hardfought 22:12 !setmintc 10000000000 22:12 luxidream: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for luxidream set to 10000000000 22:12 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 22:13 is that enough? 22:13 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13 -!- shadowcat has joined #hardfought 22:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:6800 22:17 looks like I found a soko-wow 22:17 nice nice 22:17 with scroll of charging already IDed it seems 22:18 Tangles: don't ask me why i am still playing that goddamn monk game lmao 22:18 I was just pushing boulders around and noticed an 'ebony wand' in my inventory. Did not even realise I had picked it up right away. 22:18 nice 22:18 and yeah I found charging in bones a little while ago. Cursed but w/e. 22:18 I am looking for a wow myself 22:18 nice nice 22:19 luxidream man, thats a shitty mintc 22:19 I also got a 0:99 marker from a death-drop earlier. 22:19 we don't see your game then 22:19 Tangles: w00t 22:19 you still see the ascended 22:19 but not arrives at minetown x99 22:20 Hmm I thought we tuned those livelog messages so only the more interesting achievements got logged. 22:21 maybe those changes got clobbered by a recent commit. I'll have a look later. 22:21 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 22:22 wand was 0:1. Still happy :) 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 660 points, T:2221, killed by a gnome 22:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Helios (Brd Vam Fem Cha), 1570 points, T:1983, quit 22:23 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:21222 22:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1274 points, T:3842, killed by a killer bee 22:25 Tangles ssssshhh! the RNG will hear you! 22:25 [hdf-us] [un] BoisterousSloth (Con Vam Mal Cha), 267 points, T:764, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 22:25 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2551/source 22:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed master key of thievery", on T:6816 22:25 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:25 fuck man vlad owns me 22:26 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 speed boots", on T:6817 22:27 [hdf-us] [un] BoisterousSloth (Con Vam Mal Cha), 288 points, T:455, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 22:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Con Hob Mal Cha), 58 points, T:311, killed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food 22:28 wow hobbit convict must be a struggle. 22:29 I love how good it feels to find an early food ration as a convict. 22:29 i think i am just too dumb for nethack 22:29 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 22:29 Tangles i just did, then died to a boulder trap 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed antigulp's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:57767 22:30 stenno you just had a 5 streak 22:30 luck 22:30 um no 22:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) read a Discworld novel, on T:57785 22:30 i just hit random keys on the keyboard and that was the result 22:30 lol 22:30 its like with the monkeys and shakespeare 22:30 monkey smashing the kboard 22:31 holy fuck man 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (krakens), on T:57803 22:31 found a wand of wishing at vlads 22:31 Yay! WoW's for everyone! 22:31 0:3 even 22:32 Wow! 22:33 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2553 22:33 nice, Magicbane didn't protect against titan curse items 22:33 why not 22:34 stenno: It's not 100% 22:34 -!- truculent has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:34 Also you have to be wielding it. 22:34 ok 22:34 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:35 so bad luck 22:37 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:17718 22:38 hmm what does my monk even need 22:38 Their unicorn horn to not be cursed 22:38 magic mapping? shrug 22:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2435 22:39 mine is blessed 22:39 i guess i could wish for GoP lol 22:39 gop, ring of levi 22:40 first i have to fight vlad though 22:41 [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Page of Scales, on T:18018 22:41 Can you wish for an artifact? 22:41 nah 22:41 well i could try 22:41 4 artis existing 22:42 i think silver dagger does more damage against vlad than magicbane.. 22:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1210 points, T:2089, killed by a gnome 22:45 18/99 22:45 18 of 88 22:45 18 of 99 22:45 he life-drained me again, ignores my magic missiles which dont even hit 22:46 [hdf-us] [un] BoisterousSloth (Con Vam Mal Cha), 1440 points, T:2919, killed by an ape 22:46 idk what to do lol 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Con Hob Mal Cha), 913 points, T:1823, killed by a water demon 22:46 i just cannot damage him 22:46 so wishing for silver dagger maybe? 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible karibou's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:2908 22:47 base mr 80 22:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 silver dagger", on T:21699 22:50 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7639 22:51 stenno: do you have skill in dagger? 22:51 basic 22:51 got MB gifted 22:51 okay. was wondering. thx 22:52 [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha), 6423 points, T:4033, overpowered by a leocrotta 22:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:21736 22:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:21738 22:52 didn't even lose a level wtf 22:53 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 22:54 lol i have to fight orcus in a bit 22:54 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:7801 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 3636 points, T:4740, killed by a soldier ant 22:54 nice pool of lava in the middle to throw the troll corpses into :) 22:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:21836 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Con Hob Mal Cha), 435 points, T:1657, killed by a gnome 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3357 23:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:22317 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Con Hob Mal Cha), 427 points, T:1082, killed by a water moccasin 23:03 [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 976 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Moonjava's health food store, on T:7869 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1049 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 584 points, T:1415, killed by a manes 23:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4198 23:09 yenooghu orcus double action 23:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:22490 23:10 conflicted shades ftw 23:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:22503 23:10 and again 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4687 23:10 what comes next, demo? 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] wintergalaxy88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:64322 23:12 The invisible Orcus is frozen by the shade. 23:12 finally 23:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:22548 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4839 23:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:4858 23:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 unholy water", on T:22649 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 515 points, T:1047, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf 23:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:22976 23:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5934 23:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:23010 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Con Hob Mal Cha), 1629 points, T:1977, killed by a contaminated potion 23:24 "You hear a slow drip." 23:24 * tinklebear is insulted! 23:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4600 points, T:6256, killed by a winter wolf cub, while praying 23:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:23436 23:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:23449 23:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:23454 23:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:24115 23:33 now the inevitable will happen and the hpom has comr 23:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:23576 23:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:23577 23:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:600 23:38 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 23:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] cable (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 12051 points, T:1993, killed by a boiling hot corpse 23:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2733 points, T:4306, poisoned by an orcish arrow 23:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:24688 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alex (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:6505 23:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 73 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24483 23:46 Umbire: that's pretty wild, about the bomberman character. new to me. will read more about it. 23:47 [hdf-us] [slex] sohlman (Loc Ret Mal Cha), 47841 points, T:6419, killed by a monster (werecouatl) 23:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 32 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24617 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:5037 23:49 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 26.1] 23:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25139 23:52 Bomberman Quest is a fun if simplistic game 23:52 stenno: GL on the demon fights 23:53 demon? 23:53 you mean riders? 23:57 I thought you were still in Gehennom when I said that 23:58 the message about Medusa was just outside my focus