00:00 <Umbire> ooh, managed to mix sickness from a set of spare potions
00:02 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] jops (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2147 points, T:3515, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze
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00:04 <spicycat> !tell bhaak two seeming bugs with the advent calendar. when i walk into a door (possibly because i have autoopen set?) it says "Ouch!  You bump into a heavy door." which according to the wiki, abuses Dex and should only happen when i'm impaired in some way, but i'm not
00:04 <Beholder> I'm on it, spicycat.
00:05 <spicycat> bug two: server time is past midnight, but today's door, 8 won't ope... oh never mind, it works if you exit the portal and go back in
00:05 <Umbire> lol
00:07 <rld> <@based> even with -43ac and 330 hp i was taking upwards of 120+ hp damage in the astral plane in xnh
00:07 <rld> <@based> per turn
00:08 <Umbire> Sounds proper challenging
00:09 <rld> <@based> was kinda terrifying
00:11 <spicycat> what's dealing all that damage?
00:11 <rld> <@based> seemed like mostly A stuff with magic missiles
00:12 <rld> <@based> i think in xnh, some enemies in the astral plane have magic missiles which bypass magic res or reflection
00:12 <rld> <@based> so they always hit and do damage
00:12 <rld> <@based> if it wasnt for conflict i was done for
00:13 <Umbire> hmmm, one RNG drop was a cursed pair of riding boots
00:13 <Umbire> already ID'd fumblers so this might be levitation
00:13 <spicycat> @based mmissiles aren't blocked by MR in xnh anymore
00:13 <spicycat> MR halves the damage, and halfspelldamage halves it again
00:15 <spicycat> not sure what's up with reflection
00:16 <spicycat> https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commit/c3d473180734b727af26bd94ac3b5f4ea40ddd99
00:16 <rld> <@based> okay now that makes more sense
00:17 <rld> <@based> i was getting pummeled by them darn magic missiles
00:18 <spicycat> hmm, might be a good idea to use geno less in xnh, if archons are so much scarier now
00:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3139
00:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] hearsegirl (Mon Inc Fem Cha), 392 points, T:522, killed by invisible Mr. Annootok, the shopkeeper
00:18 <spicycat> it's funny that they cast MM in vanilla
00:18 <spicycat> which player on the astral plane is actually going to take any damage from that?
00:19 <Umbire> I mean you can run into A pre-Astral
00:19 <Umbire> but god help you if you're reflection/MR-less by then
00:21 * tinklebear remembers something about how monsters with magic missile attacks are themselves resistant to magic missile
00:22 * tinklebear supposes the angles that get reflective gear must be real belt-and-suspenders types
00:22 <Umbire> very true
00:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nimsumzero (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 949 points, T:3532, poisoned by a snake
00:22 <tinklebear> *angels
00:22 <Umbire> probably to (partially) prevent endgame magmis roflstomps
00:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:38163
00:28 <tinklebear> Love to suddenly be a low-strength rogue at level 13.
00:28 <tinklebear> Thank you, golden naga!
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00:35 <Umbire> Golden nagas fuckin' suuuuuuuck
00:37 <tinklebear> It's like they know just which piece of armor you are most attached to.
00:37 <tinklebear> (not this time around, but you know how it is)
00:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) destroyed Alucard, on T:67703
00:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:67928
00:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:67929
00:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered Schroedinger's Cat, their faithful frost giant, on T:67983
01:03 <Umbire> Well that's just not cricket
01:04 <Andrio> Schrodinger's Cat: alive, dead, a cat and not a cat/
01:04 <K2> yes
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01:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Bat Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:713
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01:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 46253 points, T:17635, killed by a mumak
01:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:37357
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02:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 140 points, T:371, killed by a goblin
02:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 143 points, T:996, killed by a poisonous corpse
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02:04 <rld> <@FIQ> was it really that long ago I started working on fiqhack
02:04 <rld> <@FIQ> over 5 years ago...
02:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:809
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02:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) attained the rank of Knight of Power, on T:70522
02:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1749
02:08 <Umbire> Hi FIQ
02:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3658
02:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6556
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02:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Law) stole 18 nanites worth of merchandise from Kanturk's general store, on T:7396
02:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Law), 11067 points, T:7459, killed by a wand
02:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:17953
02:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2084
02:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed +2 yellow dragon scale mail", on T:17955
02:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased platinum yendorian express card", on T:30976
02:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4117
02:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:8562
02:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8922
02:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:9390
02:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:34258
02:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 20674 points, T:10146, killed by a wraith, while praying
02:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:18617
02:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:31789
02:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 773 points, T:1892, killed by a system shock
02:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1121
02:54 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] PeachMuffin (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 301 points, T:1354, killed by a giant spider, while praying
02:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1786 points, T:1384, quit
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02:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:19372
03:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1558 points, T:2000, killed by a black pudding
03:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2784 points, T:1718, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food
03:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) became the Wizard of Balance, on T:19979
03:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1623 points, T:1106, killed by an invisible dwarf
03:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 125 points, T:742, killed by a black pudding
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03:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 604 points, T:890, killed by Ms. Curig; the shopkeeper
03:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1901
03:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased wand of polymorph", on T:1986
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03:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3239
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03:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:3514
03:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:3948
03:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 58183 points, T:4087, killed by an Olog-hai
03:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 16 points, T:151, killed by a fox
03:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:60, burned by molten lava, while helpless
03:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Raider, on T:33030
03:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1340
03:36 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law), 566 points, T:1050, killed by a fire ant, while fainted from lack of food
03:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:4190
03:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased ring of polymorph control", on T:4203
03:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5003
03:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 16360 points, T:6010, killed by a queen bee
03:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1225
03:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:2771
03:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4343 points, T:3595, killed by a giant mummy
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03:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) attained the rank of Knight of Breath, on T:72535
04:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased ring of polymorph control", on T:5576
04:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:5617
04:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:5726
04:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5848
04:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:6003
04:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:35214
04:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35216
04:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 26944 points, T:6813, killed by a minotaur
04:08 <rld> <@luxidream> !lastgame
04:08 <Beholder> @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1607417582.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nh343/dumplog/1607414383.nh343.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DarkLightDragon/nethack/dumplog/1607170499.nh.html
04:10 <amateurhour> what
04:11 <amateurhour> oh you were blind
04:11 <amateurhour> that's nasty
04:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1114 points, T:1490, killed by a crossbow bolt
04:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:80512
04:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1879 points, T:1447, killed by an arrow
04:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 142 points, T:618, killed by a system shock
04:17 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law), 385 points, T:1234, killed by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze
04:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) wished for "Blessed magic marker named unexplored area black", on T:72755
04:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) wished for "Blessed magic marker named vladsbane brown", on T:72762
04:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 holy charging", on T:1729
04:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1740
04:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "holy greased fixed ring of polymorph control", on T:1771
04:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of polymorph", on T:1772
04:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "holy greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:1954
04:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2220
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04:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2747
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04:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5747
04:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:5977
04:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:6332
04:35 <Neko-chan> lol I love how many times your gender changes there
04:36 <Neko-chan> I guess polymorphing, maybe that always happens
04:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:6415
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04:36 <Andrio> Polymorphism is fun, yeah.
04:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:6633
04:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:7115
04:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:8154
04:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 unholy water", on T:9085
04:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Enchanter, on T:9237
04:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:9874
04:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:9875
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04:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:9895
04:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 91349 points, T:10271, drowned in a moat
04:56 <rld> <@luxidream> !lastgame
04:56 <Beholder> @luxidream: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1607419077.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nh343/dumplog/1607414383.nh343.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DarkLightDragon/nethack/dumplog/1607416693.nh.html
04:56 <Andrio> F
04:56 <rld> <@luxidream> miskey :/
05:05 <stenno> gametime speedrunning?
05:06 <rld> <@luxidream> no
05:06 <rld> <@luxidream> 36 minutes in
05:07 <rld> <@luxidream> adeon said the way to beat 1h might be wizard, and he's probably right
05:10 <rld> <@luxidream> I made a lot of mistakes, have to play that cleaner next time
05:15 <stenno> alright good luck
05:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Fem Cha), 142 points, T:765, killed by a malkuth sephirah
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05:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1305
05:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 4306 points, T:2082, killed by a parrot, while frozen by a potion
05:28 <mobileuser> !tell krm26 if somebody drops the amulet in evilhack it can sometimes teleport away. check with object detection or magic detection where it went.
05:28 <Beholder> I'm on it, mobileuser.
05:28 <Andrio> or a crystal ball
05:30 <mobileuser> oh krm26 you are online I see
05:31 <mobileuser> did you find the amulet yet?
05:34 <arahael> mobileuser: Not only in evilhack.
05:34 <arahael> mobileuser: I thought htat was /normal/?
05:36 <bhaak> spicycat: your dexterity was < 10
05:36 <Beholder> bhaak: Message from spicycat at 2020-12-08 00:04 EST: two seeming bugs with the advent calendar. when i walk into a door (possibly because i have autoopen set?) it says "Ouch!  You bump into a heavy door." which according to the wiki, abuses Dex and should only happen when i'm impaired in some way, but i'm not
05:37 <mobileuser> arahael in vanilla the amulet of yendor never teleports away if you drop it
05:38 <arahael> Not even in 3.7?
05:38 <mobileuser> mmm
05:39 <stenno> nope
05:39 <bhaak> not even if you drop it on a teleportation trap
05:42 <mobileuser> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/doc/fixes37.0 is a handy page to check for new stuff
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05:44 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] okmujnyhb (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:1582
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05:45 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 465 points, T:1257, killed by a giant bat
05:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] okmujnyhb (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1657 points, T:1770, killed by a wand
05:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67736
05:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67738
05:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:33028
05:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:67744
05:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] bezaban (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1440 points, T:1822, killed by a gnomish wizard
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06:15 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1039
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06:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 416 points, T:1635, killed by Mr. Feyfer; the shopkeeper
06:49 <krm26> mobileuser: danke
06:49 <Beholder> krm26: Message from mobileuser at 2020-12-08 05:28 EST: if somebody drops the amulet in evilhack it can sometimes teleport away. check with object detection or magic detection where it went.
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07:10 <rld> <@Joanna> Noooooo omg just saw backscroll omg @luxidream F
07:11 <rld> <@luxidream> it's ok
07:11 <rld> <@Joanna> Sux tho
07:11 <rld> <@luxidream> we'll get a better run
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07:12 <rld> <@Joanna> What happened for like 4k turns between wishing wand and medusa kill, quest and so on
07:12 <rld> <@luxidream> oh no that was realtime run
07:12 <rld> <@luxidream> not tc
07:12 <rld> <@Joanna> Ohhh
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07:12 <rld> <@luxidream> i was at 36 min at death
07:12 <rld> <@Joanna> You had a sweet turncount tho too lol
07:13 <rld> <@luxidream> 4k turns were wasted sacfesting because that's realtime efficient :p
07:13 <rld> <@Joanna> Lmao
07:13 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2722
07:13 <rld> <@Joanna> So random wow not dfv
07:13 <rld> <@Joanna> For those early wishes
07:13 <rld> <@luxidream> yea 0:1
07:14 <rld> <@Joanna> Better than a kick in the teeth
07:15 <rld> <@luxidream> yeah
07:15 <rld> <@luxidream> I made some mistakes though like teleing without tc and losing a lot of time x.x
07:16 <rld> <@Joanna> I have poly'd without wearing PC once or twice
07:16 <rld> <@Joanna> And levported without tc on
07:16 <rld> <@Joanna> Neither is good
07:17 <rld> <@luxidream> and I finally died by putting on poly by accident and rolling the 1/100 in like 2 turns over water
07:17 <rld> <@Joanna> Lol damn
07:17 <rld> <@Joanna> Nethack is such a brutal game lol
07:17 <rld> <@luxidream> idk if I could have done gehennom in 25 minutes though
07:18 <rld> <@luxidream> I still needed to train div skill
07:18 <rld> <@luxidream> and do some housekeeping with my inventory
07:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha) killed the Archipelago Ancient, on T:3188
07:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:67888
07:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:67891
07:21 <rld> <@Joanna> Good wizards know to clean the sanctum and tidy their inventory before ascending
07:22 <rld> <@luxidream> ah yeah there are a bunch of random scrolls down there
07:22 <rld> <@luxidream> for some reason
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07:23 <rld> <@Joanna> Those are for wizards who don't waste 4k turns on Magicbane
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07:24 <rld> <@luxidream> that was mostly for luck lol
07:24 <rld> <@luxidream> you don't need mb for anything
07:24 <rld> <@Joanna> Well not quite
07:25 <rld> <@luxidream> it's a cool mr stick I guess?
07:25 <rld> <@Joanna> Yeah if your a big poly form
07:25 <amateurhour> ingame luck is just a crutch, just write all your scrolls first time without it
07:25 <rld> <@Joanna> "oR and Magicbane is the most versatile polyself setup
07:27 <rld> <@Joanna> But now you can't cast as minotaur it's not as important
07:27 <rld> <@luxidream> i wasn't planning on using anything but mmf
07:27 <rld> <@Joanna> I still think mino with regen is baller tho
07:27 <rld> <@Joanna> Yeah fair enough
07:27 <rld> <@luxidream> there's not that many good small humanoids is there?
07:28 <rld> <@luxidream> I've used elvenking a couple times but elf can't even do that
07:28 <rld> <@Joanna> Nah not really
07:28 <rld> <@Joanna> Vamp lord has its uses
07:28 <rld> <@Joanna> But you're not dealing mmf level damage
07:28 <rld> <@Joanna> For vegetarians its ok
07:29 <rld> <@luxidream> i just use it for drain res and eating things while satiated
07:29 <rld> <@luxidream> i guess defensively it's a little better because it has regen
07:29 <rld> <@luxidream> and it can melee riders lol
07:29 <rld> <@Joanna> It also has shop detection powers
07:29 <rld> <@Joanna> You can see the @ even when not blind
07:30 <rld> <@luxidream> still gotta check for thrones and stuff
07:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:34862
07:30 <rld> <@Joanna> Also great for vegetarians cuz you can't eat floating eyes
07:30 <rld> <@Joanna> Hm yeah
07:30 <rld> <@luxidream> what am I saying they can't be on the same level
07:30 <rld> <@luxidream> ignore me
07:31 <rld> <@Joanna> Ok
07:31 <rld> <@Joanna> Lil
07:31 <rld> <@Joanna> Lol*
07:33 <Tangles> oh ffs.  I find bones (my own) where I had just got stormbringer, but this time I'm a lawful valk, so I leave it alone... don't want that artifact blast.
07:33 <rld> <@Joanna> Lol vamp lord only does claw d8, bite d8, and the drain life
07:33 <Tangles> later, on my way back to the temple with some  gold I swindled out of the local shopkeepers...
07:33 <Tangles> The Mordor orc wields a runesword named Stormbringer!
07:34 <Tangles> yay
07:34 <rld> <@Joanna> I think polymorphed player gets to add weapon damage but thats still shit compared to mmf
07:35 <Tangles> The pony hits the Mordor orc.  The Mordor orc is killed! Your pony grows up into a horse. ...nice one horsey.
07:36 <Tangles> maybe I'll just pick up that nasty black sword and put it somewhere safe.
07:36 <rld> <luxidream> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/785847325313466398/unknown.png
07:36 <rld> <@luxidream> 🤔
07:38 <rld> <@Joanna> For the chaotic tourist
07:38 <rld> <@Joanna> That's awkward tho you have to be lucky with HoOA or permaconvert after quest
07:38 <rld> <@luxidream> nah just eat the artifact blast
07:38 <amateurhour> why? can't you just get blasted and then use?
07:39 <rld> <@Joanna> Oh it's not inteligent?
07:39 <amateurhour> it is
07:39 <rld> <@Joanna> Sweet
07:39 <rld> <@luxidream> only quest artis evade your grasp
07:39 <rld> <@Joanna> Ah okay i thought any intelligent will
07:39 <rld> <@Joanna> For some reason
07:39 <amateurhour> the wiki article isn't particularly clear
07:39 <amateurhour> it's laid out in a weird way
07:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha) completed Lokoban, on T:6215
07:40 <rld> <@luxidream> so yeah a bones excal is always pretty sick
07:40 <rld> <@Joanna> If you're into that i guess
07:41 <rld> <@luxidream> excal or bones?
07:41 <rld> <@Joanna> Bones lol
07:41 <rld> <@luxidream> I'm not, it's fun to turn on once in a while though
07:41 <rld> <@Joanna> We talked about this like yesterday you also don't play with bones
07:41 <rld> <@Joanna> Lol yeah
07:42 <amateurhour> is there a realtime speedrun 'standard strategy' then?
07:43 <amateurhour> or do you come up with things on the fly for each run
07:44 <rld> <@luxidream> I mean valk does the same thing every time
07:45 <rld> <@luxidream> you go mines -> beat castle somehow -> quest -> gehennom -> planes
07:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 30608 points, T:7447, killed by a dwarf cleric
07:54 <amateurhour> ah so wizard needs a bit more creativity then
07:55 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:3986
07:56 <Tangles> lol accidental poly
07:57 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4217
07:59 <K2> morning
07:59 <amateurhour> afternoon
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08:04 <hackedhead> is a wand of polymorph usable to get rid of a cursed weapon or armor?
08:04 <hackedhead> oh, no. because I can't target my wielded item
08:04 <hackedhead> armor maybe, by self-polying into something that'll break it.
08:04 <hackedhead> or slip out of it.
08:04 <hackedhead> shucks.
08:05 <rld> <@Joanna> Wait hackedhead
08:05 <amateurhour> what about polying into something without hands?
08:05 <rld> <@Joanna> Some poly forms^
08:05 <hackedhead> oooh. right.
08:05 <rld> <@Joanna> "you find you must drop your weapon"
08:05 <hackedhead> but poly-control would probably be required.
08:05 <hackedhead> because those are rather rare.
08:05 <rld> <@Joanna> Ideally yes but you could chance it
08:05 <hackedhead> well, no, perhaps not.
08:06 <rld> <@Joanna> No dragon scales
08:06 <rld> <@Joanna> ?
08:06 <rld> <@Joanna> Iirc dragons can't wield weapons either
08:06 <hackedhead> no
08:06 <rld> <@Joanna> The budget poly control option
08:06 <hackedhead> I'm a (checks)XL8 rogue
08:06 <rld> <@Joanna> Mk
08:06 <hackedhead> stuck with a long sword
08:06 <rld> <@Joanna> Fountain dip then
08:06 <hackedhead> which is probably -?
08:06 <hackedhead> and my dagger stack is small.
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08:07 <hackedhead> yeah, currently searching for fountains
08:10 <hackedhead> "A freezing mist rises from the water and envelopes the sword."
08:10 <hackedhead> -_-
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08:11 <amateurhour> lol
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08:11 <hackedhead> 3rd fountain's the charm.
08:11 <hackedhead> now to relieve myself of this rusty sword. lel.
08:14 <aosdict> The Lady of the Frozen Lake
08:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] bezaban (Kni Hum Mal Law), 275 points, T:940, killed by a gnome king
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08:19 <hackedhead> aosdict: s/Lady/Vampire/
08:24 <rld> <@Joanna> Wait you cam get vampires from fountains now?
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08:25 <hackedhead> no, the freezing mist is a curse effect
08:25 <aosdict> are vampires really associated with curses
08:25 <hackedhead> but "rises from the water" is similar to what happens when you're granted Excalibur
08:26 <hackedhead> but but, "mist" is a form that Dracula can take
08:26 <hackedhead> also, yes?
08:26 <hackedhead> Dracula basically mind-controls people. if that's not a curse I dunno what is.
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08:27 <rld> <@Joanna> Is it a variant thing tho or just a thing with cursing weapons
08:27 <rld> <@Joanna> Cuz when i fountain dip for unholy water i never get mist
08:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) wished for "cursed fixed +2 Lance of Longinus", on T:25675
08:28 <hackedhead> I'm playing NH4, so it might be an alternate message
08:28 <rld> <@Joanna> Ahh
08:28 <aosdict> @Joanna it's specifically for non-lawful dipping a long sword
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08:28 <amateurhour> is that the message when dipping a longsword specifically without the requirements?
08:28 <rld> <@luxidream> it's when you would have gotten excal
08:28 <hackedhead> ah, right.
08:28 <rld> <@luxidream> but you're not law
08:28 <rld> <@Joanna> I see
08:28 <hackedhead> so, it _is_ the lady
08:28 <hackedhead> she's just pissed.
08:28 <hackedhead> XD
08:28 <rld> <@luxidream> I think she curses the sword and removes rustproofing
08:29 <rld> <@Joanna> The lady says no excal for u
08:29 <hackedhead> don't want your dumb sword anyway lady.
08:29 <hackedhead> get outta mah fountain.
08:29 <rld> <@Joanna> But it was already cursed
08:29 <rld> <@Joanna> Jokes on her
08:29 <hackedhead> yes, and rusty
08:30 <hackedhead> I want the OP Valerian from fourk some more.
08:30 <hackedhead> 10% sleep on hit.
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08:38 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:6999
08:42 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7195
08:43 <aosdict> well, looks like Tangles has had better luck with sword dipping!
08:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:69134
08:58 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9011
08:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:27048
09:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) killed Oona, on T:27294
09:07 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:9589
09:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 215 points, T:440, killed by a dwarf
09:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed guidance glyph", on T:226872
09:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:15562
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09:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1106 points, T:1790, quit
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09:31 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Tangles (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10229
09:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 411 points, T:1800, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food
09:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] klintos (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Exhumer, on T:16641
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09:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:69614
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10:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 shield of reflection", on T:34969
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10:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3417
10:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3470
10:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3622
10:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3304
10:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3451
10:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 2482 points, T:3607, killed by a bolt of fire
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10:36 <Umbire> Merlek: Unfortunate welcome wagon there
10:37 <rld> <@Joanna> F
10:38 <Merlek> Umbire: the unfortunate and very much avoidable death you mean?
10:38 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> bonus irony points if it was orc town
10:39 <Umbire> Yeah, guessing you hadn't found a bag or anything yet
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10:39 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Val Hum Fem Law), 3353 points, T:3571, killed by a baluchitherium
10:40 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you should be looking at the screen when moving your character
10:41 <Merlek> Umbire: Had just gotten magicbane, had poly control and a /oP, so could've just poly'd myself to a mindflayer and survived. I blame not playing for 6 months or so :)
10:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) killed Mother Hydra, on T:32302
10:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) killed Father Dagon, on T:32302
10:41 <Andrio> Double kill!
10:41 <Umbire> Oh yeah, always sucks shit when you realize what you could've done after the fact
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10:41 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> @Andrio beat me to the joke
10:43 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> Heh. Speaking of, I -could- say I've been playing longer than the likes of Tone and Luxidream, but starting one's first game in 2006 doesn't mean squat if one hasn't played a huge deal between then and now
10:43 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> Still, it blows my mind that I've technically been playing nethack for almost half my life
10:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:1242
10:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2277
10:48 <Pinkbeast> 2006? ha.
10:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:44366
10:49 * Pinkbeast isn't going to win this one, either, but Hack 1.0.3, 1988. :-)
10:50 <aosdict> who's the record holding regular around here? jilles?
10:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:44367
10:50 <Pinkbeast> ... also my last game was 2018, so only 30 years.
10:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:57063
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10:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:3258
10:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (cockatrices), on T:9494
10:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 512 points, T:1286, killed by a rothe
10:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Minetown, on T:3767
10:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3788
10:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3998
11:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:9981
11:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Priest, on T:10507
11:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 24094 points, T:10527, killed by a bolt of fire
11:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:21, killed by a water demon
11:10 <amateurhour> ayy Merlek long time no see
11:11 <Merlek> hey amateurhour! yeah, real life had some stuff in store for me :)
11:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 182 points, T:662, killed by a gnome
11:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kuge, on T:57929
11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 253631 points, T:25430, drowned in a moat
11:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) killed Daemon, on T:34222
11:27 <Merlek> ok so, surrounded by giant ants, quaff a potion of extra healing, *poof* djinni appears and grants me a wish. I have 13hp left, ie will die as soon as I've used that wish :P
11:28 <Pinkbeast> Wish for "amulet of life saving (around neck)" # regrettably this doesn't work
11:28 <Merlek> :D
11:28 <Andrio> Wish for scrolls of genocide/scare monster and pray?
11:29 <Umbire> Wish for an engraved Elbereth
11:29 <Merlek> Does a wish use a turn btw?
11:30 <Pinkbeast> Inasmuch as the activity that grants it does (eg quaffing the potion)
11:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1583
11:30 <Merlek> Pinkbeast, ah of course, thanks.
11:30 <Umbire> Could wish for a wand of teleportation 4Head
11:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:2576
11:30 <Umbire> Oh so it's just "fuck team a" season
11:30 <Umbire> Good luck
11:31 <Merlek> oh, survived that turn. 
11:31 <Merlek> haha yeah, fuck'em!
11:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:34432
11:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1016 points, T:1628, killed by a killer bee
11:32 <Andrio> F
11:32 <Andrio> Go (away) team a!
11:33 <Merlek> :D pondering my next move, unknown BUC on the scroll, better go for just "giant ants" then right, to be safe?
11:33 <Andrio> If you don't have negative luck, the scrolls are definitely blessed. And you get a different prompt if it's cursed anyway.
11:34 <Andrio> (the same one as if it's uncursed)
11:34 <Merlek> ah, cheers! 
11:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class a), on T:2577
11:35 <Pinkbeast> Also, even if it was completely unknown BUC, either it asks for a letter or a name, and if it asks for a name, what else are you going to type?
11:35 <Pinkbeast> ... oh, which is what Andrio said, ahem
11:35 <Merlek> :D thanks 
11:36 <Andrio> Woodchucks
11:36 <Andrio> so whoever finds the bones can enjoy them.
11:38 <Merlek> I'll note that down on my to-do list
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11:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35091
11:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Conjurer, on T:7563
11:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3029
11:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2713 points, T:4233, killed by a killer bee
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11:44 <rld> <@Joanna> I wonder if stenno is here
11:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:1378
11:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3387
11:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3387
11:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:9789
11:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:9884
11:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:59095
12:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) wished for "blessed crystal ball", on T:35647
12:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4333 points, T:5010, killed by an ape
12:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 3806 points, T:4606, killed by an ape, while praying
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12:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (cockatrices), on T:2723
12:14 <qt_> really good idea: tin of mockatrice meat so you can taste cockatrice meat without dying
12:14 <Beholder> qt_: Message from K2 at 2020-12-07 20:48 EST: game is recovered
12:14 <qt_> i bet it tastes great
12:14 <qt_> thanks K2
12:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2899
12:14 <K2> last night you left about 30 sec before i could tell you your game was recovered
12:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3396 points, T:2899, killed by a wand
12:14 <K2> :P
12:16 <stenno> i am here
12:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:1153
12:17 <aosdict> qt_: do you think your vanilla PR might contain the fix to the worm crash you had
12:17 <aosdict> I just glanced it over, noticed it was a worm bug fix
12:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed silver dragon scale mail", on T:1155
12:18 <qt_> the one I linked to yesterday? I don't think so, it was related to a bug when a long worm was generated without enough room to place all the segments
12:18 <Umbire> YASI: Cursed tins of cockatrice meat that induce gradual stoning if you try to open them
12:19 <qt_> but the long worm in my game was placed already by the time it crashed
12:20 <aosdict> I'm not really going to devote resources to fixing worm crashes unless they recur
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12:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4408
12:20 <Umbire> YASI (but slightly less silly): cursed footrice tins may smell like "raw meat", which has a chance to generate the footrice on a square next to you
12:21 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> @Pinkbeast#0000 Well, I've played the original Rogue B)
12:21 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> Granted, I was a small child with no idea what I was doing...
12:22 <Pinkbeast> And after '88, I suspect, since 2x14 is 28?
12:25 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed the master key of thievery", on T:1165
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12:27 <Umbire> Blessed, the True Name of the Master Key!
12:27 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:1166
12:27 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> Yep, born mid 91
12:28 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> So sometime late 90s is when I would have had a crack at it
12:30 <rld> <@DarkLightDragon> Can't sleep, time for yasd?
12:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1237 points, T:1723, killed by an ettin zombie
12:39 <Umbire> Can't believe this tourist is unencumbered with all the shit I have on me
12:39 <Umbire> probably helps that I've become a more efficient stasher who doesn't carry spellbooks around all the mcfuckin' time
12:40 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:17664
12:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3511
12:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf king, on T:5740
12:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:38814
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12:53 <Neko-chan> Good morning, today I am going to nest bags of holding for value
12:55 <Umbire> >clueless
12:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4485
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4495
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:38999
12:56 <Umbire> Not having a bunch of heavy shit to lug around is value right?
12:56 <Umbire> (japes aside I actually need to make a comic of that)
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] sonsie (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:39014
12:56 <Neko-chan> I like leaving things behind and coming back to them
12:56 <Neko-chan> stairs are good actually
12:56 <rld> <@Joanna> Ah good, stenno, then maybe you can tell me...
12:56 <rld> <@Joanna> Why I want döner!
12:57 <Neko-chan> and the value to which I'm referring to is packing one boh full of gems then nesting it within another boh to increase my end game score
12:58 <rld> <@Joanna> I occasionally make temp stashes next to stairs
12:58 <rld> <@Joanna> 80% of the time I forget the items tho
12:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4714
12:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:4718
12:59 <stenno> doener can be good sometimes
12:59 <rld> <@Joanna> WRONG ANSWER
12:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7414
12:59 <rld> <@Joanna> It's because Döner macht schöner
13:02 <Umbire> I know Neko-chan, am making da funnies
13:04 <rld> <@Joanna> Hey you know what else is of value?
13:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1298
13:05 <rld> <@Joanna> No? Me neither, but it sure ain't the nethack score system! Badum-tsh
13:05 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided electric eels, on T:69774
13:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided krakens, on T:69775
13:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 7748 points, T:7376, killed by a forest centaur
13:06 <Merlek> "The wererat bites!  You feel feverish. You are blasted by the key named The Master Key of Thievery's power!". So, running a fever triggers artifact blasting? Bug?
13:07 <aosdict> you became a wererat
13:07 <Neko-chan> When you get the 'feeling feverish' it means you changed race to a lycanthrope
13:07 <aosdict> which should trigger silver blasts, but it's weird that artifacts do too
13:08 <Neko-chan> I presume it's just running a check against all you items and blasting you if it blasts you?
13:08 <stenno> i think you touch all your items when you polyself
13:08 <Neko-chan> whenever I polyself that happens with my MMoM
13:08 <rld> <@Joanna> But they didn't poly yet
13:08 <aosdict> right, the weirdness is that becoming infected with lycanthropy is not a polyself
13:08 <rld> <@Joanna> They just gained the intrinsic
13:09 <Neko-chan> But like, is it just an intrinsic? also I think it runs the same like, touch all my stuff, code that it does when you polyself, which is why I mentioned it
13:09 <qt_> "I feel feverish, guess I better pat all my pockets to see whether I have a loose lint-covered advil somewhere"
13:09 <Neko-chan> I thought it actually made your race different cause it impacts the same race sacrifice mechanics
13:09 <rld> <@Joanna> Idk tbh
13:09 <aosdict> it should really be "touch my silver stuff"
13:10 <stenno> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/src/polyself.c#L875
13:10 <Merlek> Ah, of course. Didn't realize you changed race before the actual poly happened.
13:10 <aosdict> but then you could also run into weirdness where grayswandir should hurt to touch but shouldn't blast you as an artifact
13:10 <aosdict> Neko-chan: Merlek: lycanthrope isn't a race
13:10 <aosdict> your race remains the same
13:10 <rld> <@Joanna> Right
13:10 <stenno> here retouch_equipment is called always explicitely 
13:11 <stenno> in polymon
13:11 <rld> <@Joanna> But monster ones default to human
13:11 <aosdict> it's not same race sacrifice
13:11 <rld> <@Joanna> Which is why they count as cannibalism or same race sac if you're human
13:11 <aosdict> I just wiztested, got infected as an orc and then sacrificed the wererat and it was a normal sacrifice
13:11 <Neko-chan> Then why does same race sacrifice happen when you sacrifice a lycanthrope as a lycanthrope?
13:11 <Neko-chan> hmmm weird
13:11 <aosdict> it doesn't. I just wiztested.
13:12 <rld> <@Joanna> It does count if you're human
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13:12 <aosdict> All werefoo count as human in either were or animal form
13:12 <aosdict> thus, it's always same race sac for a human
13:12 <aosdict> regardless of infectionj
13:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36729
13:14 <Merlek> glad we got that sorted :D :D *confused*
13:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:36803
13:17 <rld> <@Joanna> @mobileuser ascend pls
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13:21 <amateurhour> mobileuser ascension WHEN
13:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler, on T:50645
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13:26 <mobileuser> nearly there :-)
13:28 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] DarkLightDragon (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 304 points, T:859, killed by a fox
13:28 <krm26> Gah... So Amulet at random location on Moloch's level, and no magic or object detection. Need to decide if I go back up to my stash on level ONE or just hit every last place on the level
13:28 <aosdict> krm26: unnethack?
13:28 <krm26> Evilhack
13:28 <aosdict> it teleported randomly?
13:28 <aosdict> does evilhack have that now?
13:29 <krm26> I assume it does, since the high priest didn't have it
13:29 <krm26> It was news to me
13:29 <krm26> Or I would have been more prepared
13:29 <aosdict> it's a fairly open level, you could just look around for it
13:29 <krm26> I try to minimize my time in wall-of-text areas, I get bored and end up stoning or starving myself by pounding through messages
13:29 <aosdict> but if you have 3 controlled levelports to burn, I'd go for that
13:30 <krm26> I do indeed have levelports to burn -- I stopped thinking about that after killing the high priest, but you are right, without the Amulet I can still bounce around
13:30 <aosdict> prediction: you levelport up to get detection methods, come back down, land near the stairs, the amulet is sitting right there :P
13:31 <amateurhour> something could have picked it up as well
13:31 <krm26> Heh
13:31 <krm26> Sucks that detect treasure is one of I think 3 spells I don't know
13:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Bin Inc Fem Non) averted death, on T:25064
13:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:37484
13:35 <krm26> Teleporting was the way to go, I would have carved through 95% of the level to find that thing
13:37 <krm26> Oh eat me, it teleported away again
13:37 <aosdict> purple worm: "Don't mind if I do.
13:37 <krm26> How many times is it going to do this WTF
13:38 <aosdict> in unnethack it teleports away when dropped. Are you dropping it?
13:39 <krm26> The monster carrying it is dropping it
13:39 <mobileuser> if a monster drops it, it can teleport away too
13:39 <krm26> First the high priest, then a random dragon
13:39 <mobileuser> but it doesn't always teleport
13:39 <krm26> Well, 2 for 2 so far
13:39 <aosdict> I feel like "dropping" rules shouldn't apply to when the bearer is killed?
13:40 <mobileuser> yeah very unlucky krm26
13:40 <krm26> I guess it *is* EVILhack
13:40 <krm26> These are all the knockon effects of K2 booting me out of my first wish
13:40 <mobileuser> lol
13:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:67919
13:41 <krm26> Got it, 3rd time the charm
13:41 <Umbire> Hoorah
13:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed potions of gain level", on T:37680
13:42 <krm26> Can you cursed gain level up from the sanctum?
13:42 <aosdict> yep
13:42 <rld> <@Joanna> You can in vanilla...
13:42 <Umbire> ^
13:42 <Umbire> God knows what KK's fucked about with regarding that
13:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] owen (Bin Inc Fem Non), 660012 points, T:25144, killed by a hellfire colossus
13:42 <krm26> Awesome, I think with 9 I have spares after using them for the demon lairs
13:43 <aosdict> YANI: In variants where a monster can grab the Amulet on Astral and ascend with it, they gain the ability to shove coaligned and non-aligned (non-angels, priests, player monsters) out of their way on their pathfinding to their high altar
13:44 <rld> <@Joanna> Lol aosdict amazing
13:44 <aosdict> but all monsters who are crossaligned to them grudge them
13:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3108
13:44 <aosdict> just some musing on what might happen if you drop the amulet on astral and it ports itself into the right high temple or something
13:44 <rld> <@Joanna> Which monsters can nick it, and in which variants?
13:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1295 points, T:2818, killed by a pony
13:46 <rld> <@Joanna> I wonder what message you get when someone else ascends with the amulet they nicked off you
13:47 <rld> <@Joanna> And whether the
13:47 <rld> <@Joanna> The game just ends or let's you continue even though you can't win
13:48 <Umbire> Just wait for someone else to enter Astral with the amulet 4Head
13:48 <Umbire> (probably an instant game over)
13:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3016
13:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:53490
13:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:53491
13:49 <rld> <@Joanna> I was thinking when you're both on astral, but i guess if they take a portal to enter astral and you're on water, you also have no chance
13:49 <rld> <@Joanna> Portal only takes whoever has teh amulet
13:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) killed the invisible Grue, on T:38033
13:50 <amateurhour> is it splicehack that had a bug where player monsters could swipe the amulet
13:50 <amateurhour> then instantly teleport to a high altar and sacrifice it
13:51 <rld> <@Joanna> Lol. Brutal
13:51 <amateurhour> and when it was fixed it was purposefully made so monk player monsters can still teleport?
13:51 <amateurhour> or something like that
13:51 <rld> <@Joanna> But i guess this explains why astral is full of player monsters... Partly
13:52 <rld> <@Joanna> I still wanna know how Moloch keeps getting it back
13:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3297
13:52 <amateurhour> iirc the player monsters are meant to have taken fake amulets
13:52 <rld> <@Joanna> Orite the Infidel class
13:52 <rld> <@Joanna> Oh
13:53 <rld> <@Joanna> But they wouldn't be able to get to astral with a fake
13:53 <Umbire> I subscribe to the "Moloch tag" theory where it's all a great game and the role of "Moloch" gets exchanged each time a god successfully gets the Amulet
13:54 <rld> <@Joanna> :o
13:54 <rld> <@Joanna> I like this version
13:54 <Umbire> I forget where I picked it up from but it's novel and funny to think about
13:54 <amateurhour> what if the real monster...
13:54 <amateurhour> is man...?
13:54 <rld> <@Joanna> Is you :O
13:55 <rld> <@Joanna> Unless playing paci ofc
13:55 <Umbire> okay Dracula
13:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:6439
13:55 <Umbire> don't you have another tin opener to get bodied by
13:55 <Umbire> :^y
13:56 <rld> <@Joanna> No amateurhour bc elf/orc/gno etc. can all be horrible murderous monsters killing unsuspecting newts
13:56 <Umbire> @Joanna then you're still a monster but for standing by and doing nothing while your Archon buddy murderkills everything within a five-mile radius 
13:56 <rld> <@Joanna> Who said we were buddies?
13:56 <amateurhour> 'I am very disapproving of this, Archie.'
13:57 <rld> <@Joanna> I tried to get a restraining order and still it keeps following me
13:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:69904
13:57 <elenmirie__> lol Joanna
13:57 <rld> <@Joanna> But nethack is difficult to win true paci mode
13:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the White Horse, on T:69908
13:57 <krm26> Aggh NPCs
13:58 <rld> <@Joanna> You can't spare every monster
13:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10354
13:58 <rld> <@Joanna> Not like in Undertale which is the cutest game ever
13:58 <amateurhour> hmmm, in principle you could, right?
13:58 <rld> <@Joanna> Or it is if you're pacj
13:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:38655
13:59 <amateurhour> there are those trophies in tnnt for not killing the monsters you'd expect to need to kill
13:59 <Umbire> "I'm just gonna walk down this hall with this Archon following me, and if you get too close and die it's your own fault"
13:59 <jonadab> Sparing everything would be the petless pacifist conduct combination.
13:59 <krm26> Good luck malor6!
13:59 <jonadab> Which would be *really* hard to do.
13:59 <jonadab> Because normal pacifist strategy leans very heavily on pets.
13:59 <rld> <@Joanna> It'd be amazing tho lol
14:00 <rld> <@Joanna> Idk how you'd manage
14:00 <jonadab> Much of the game could be done via avoidance, but certain areas (notably, the Sanctum and Astral) would be Problematic.
14:01 <jonadab> YOu'd need a lot of teleport wands, and I don't know how you'd acquire them under those restrictions.
14:01 <amateurhour> you wouldn't need that many zaps of tele for sanctum
14:01 <amateurhour> if you have stealth
14:03 <jonadab> Also, I'm not sure how you'd avoid having things that hold grudges against each other, kill each other out of LOS.
14:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:18186
14:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:18187
14:03 <jonadab> Unless you play a version/variant that doesn't have grudges.
14:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:18192
14:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 494 points, T:3669, killed by a giant ant
14:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:10759
14:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:18339
14:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:18347
14:07 <Umbire> I mean YOU didn't kill them, that's just nature taking its course
14:07 <Umbire> :y
14:08 <rld> <@Joanna> Yeah amateurhour geno plus stealth should help a lot
14:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) destroyed Death, on T:38885
14:08 <rld> <@Joanna> And geno technically doesn't break pacifist iirc
14:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3326
14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3413
14:10 <Umbire> I was just standing around minding my business when that L jumped me, Mr. Kop! I wasn't doin' nothin'!
14:10 <Umbire> He and every single lich in the dungeon just dissolved into dust on their own, honest!
14:10 <Pinkbeast> I read the scroll and thought I was on Sesame Street, so I said a letter!
14:11 <rld> <@Joanna> Lol
14:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:38935
14:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor6 (Wiz Vam Mal Neu), 4952804 points, T:38948, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor6/dnethack/dumplog/1607346481.dnh.txt
14:16 <krm26> Grats!
14:17 <amateurhour> gratz malor!
14:17 <Merlek> nice one, grats!
14:18 <Umbire> GG!
14:18 <rld> <@malor> thanks
14:18 <Umbire> And with that I go off to shower
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14:21 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 119 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:18929
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14:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 52 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:18960
14:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:18976
14:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:48137
14:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] UniDuck (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:48240
14:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:69008
14:31 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19323
14:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2913
14:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [slex] amateurhour (Mon Sok Mal Law) obtained the luckstone from Mines End, on T:2335
14:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3164
14:37 <K2> krm26 - the BUC status of the AoY determines how often it will teleport away when dropped
14:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Bat Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Ogresmasher", on T:1575
14:37 <K2> pays to bless it
14:39 <krm26> I didn't have the opportunity, the High Priest failed to bless it for me :-)
14:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:69979
14:39 <krm26> Damn it, now I'm boned
14:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2329
14:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 464 points, T:1285, killed by a dwarf
14:41 <krm26> I wish I could read my spellbooks now that I'm nice and safe inside a sea dragon
14:42 <aosdict> Pinkbeast: maybe blessed geno when hallucinating should prompt you "What's the letter of the day?"
14:42 <krm26> In fact, I want to tame this sea dragon, stay engulfed, and move to the stairs
14:45 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:70000
14:46 <krm26> Disappointing, I dropped a scroll of scare monster into a dragon's stomach and it isn't scared
14:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3985
14:47 <K2> its gut bacteria is now frightened
14:47 <K2> *are
14:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:12666
14:50 <krm26> Does EvilHack have a higher chance of failure for teleporting when carrying the AoY?
14:50 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a woodchuck named Carl", on T:70006
14:51 <krm26> Great job mobileuser!
14:52 <stenno> 350 turns in trying to wrest that wand
14:52 <K2> krm26 you cant teleport at all when carrying the AoY
14:52 <krm26> Doh
14:52 <K2> nada, nerp, zilch
14:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:20384
14:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Gia Fem Law), 4809048 points, T:70007, ascended
14:52 <Beholder> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1604060225.evil.html
14:52 <K2> congrats mobileuser \o/
14:53 <mobileuser> thx! :-)
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14:53 <K2> nymphs dont have weight carrying restrictions correct?
14:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:20390
14:55 <amateurhour> gratz mobileuser !
14:55 <krm26> Nice turn count
14:56 <elenmirie__> palindromic
14:56 <mobileuser> turncount about average for evilhack
14:56 <elenmirie__> yeah
14:57 <elenmirie__> evilhack takes a while
14:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:69398
14:57 <elenmirie__> oh, another evil ascension imminent
14:57 <krm26> Oh no, I'm going to die for sure
14:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:13419
14:58 <K2> nooo dont say that
14:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:20520
14:59 <krm26> I wasn't able to refresh my spells so I'm in deep weeds
14:59 <krm26> Going to lose acid blast shortly
14:59 <krm26> I might not even be able to club the Wizard to death here, we'll see
15:00 <elenmirie__> chin up!
15:00 <krm26> I have to manage to die in some way that I can argue would have been prevented if K2 hadn't stolen a wish from me
15:01 <elenmirie__> that rotter
15:01 <elenmirie__> how did he contrive to do that?
15:01 <mobileuser> I wonder how many wishes you've already had ;-)
15:02 <K2> fake news
15:02 <K2> alternative facts!
15:02 <elenmirie__> ah, the lamestream media, is that the term?
15:02 <krm26> Hmm -- one for the card which didn't materialize, I think 3 to get Dragonbane? I got two from potions
15:02 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:20674
15:03 <elenmirie__> stenno, over 20K?
15:03 <elenmirie__> my eyes must deceive me
15:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:20684
15:04 <K2> its fake 20k turns
15:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6280
15:04 <K2> he's really on turn 3275
15:04 <rld> <@riker> hardfought should add like in-game donator privileges, but for exorbitant prices
15:05 <rld> <@riker> like, $100 and you have a 10% chance to spawn with an extra +0 uncursed dagger
15:05 <elenmirie__> erase 20K turns for $1000
15:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1612 points, T:1817, killed by a magic missile
15:05 <rld> <@riker> all the way up to things like "one free wish if you pay mini-k2's entire college tuition"
15:05 <elenmirie__> lol
15:05 <stenno> Death will just kill me lol
15:06 <stenno> hopefully i can get him through conflict or so
15:06 <elenmirie__> he's just doing his job
15:07 <amateurhour> K2 I'll give you a fiver if you change the message of the day to 'amateurhour is great'
15:07 <stenno> ok 
15:07 <stenno> dead
15:07 <stenno> fuck man
15:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:20758
15:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6638
15:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1176782 points, T:20786, ascended
15:08 <Beholder> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/nethack/dumplog/1607287611.nh.html
15:08 <krm26> I just can't grok 20k turn ascensions
15:08 <stenno> man
15:08 <krm26> Grats
15:08 <stenno> that was close
15:08 <stenno> thx
15:09 <amateurhour> gratz stenno
15:09 <stenno> fuckign stormy 
15:09 <stenno> whoever said that that was a good weapon
15:09 <stenno> thx
15:09 <krm26> Too much pressure from all these ascensions! I'm gonna sit on the plane of earth for a day
15:09 <stenno> elenmirie__: i toned it down with the sub-20k stuff a big
15:09 <stenno> bit
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15897
15:09 <stenno> think half my ascensions on tnnt were >20k
15:10 <krm26> You must dig a lot
15:10 <elenmirie__> yeah, I know what you mean, I was trying for sub 20k for a while and then stopped, and got lots of comments of the nature of the one I just made
15:10 <elenmirie__> lol
15:10 <mobileuser> krm26 "You try to feel what is floating here.  You feel here a cockatrice corpse."
15:10 <mobileuser> what was that??
15:10 <mobileuser> oh air
15:11 <mobileuser> of course
15:11 <elenmirie__> fook, that's terrifying
15:11 <mobileuser> earth is more relaxed
15:12 <paxed> not even flying is safe anymore :)
15:12 <mobileuser> heh
15:12 <stenno> so now i have kni,tou,arc,rog,pri
15:12 <stenno> hea next i think
15:12 <stenno> that pri took me 3 days
15:13 <stenno> lots of fail splats
15:14 <stenno> oh actually cav next
15:14 <stenno> dwa cav
15:15 <mobileuser> why cav and not hea?
15:15 <stenno> i have 11 cav ascensions and 14 hea
15:15 <{Demo}> stenno u wanna try brevishack v -0.0.0.0.0.1?
15:15 <stenno> trying to pick the ones i have ascended least first
15:15 <stenno> hmm
15:16 <{Demo}> its on nethack@dope.diddlydingusdu.de
15:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10673
15:16 <{Demo}> with these changes https://github.com/demogorgon22/brevishack/blob/3.4.3-nao/changelog.md
15:16 <{Demo}> need to figure out the right way to fix the major major major balance issues with it
15:16 <stenno> hmm maybe not today anymore
15:16 <stenno> but yesterday sure
15:16 <stenno> fair
15:17 <mobileuser> I would like to try brevishack
15:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] brandon (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1000 points, T:7882, quit
15:17 <stenno> {Demo}: what about level depth regarding monster gen?
15:18 <stenno> man fucking stormy
15:18 <stenno> it really does no damage in gehennom
15:18 <{Demo}> yeah that needs to be adjusted
15:18 <stenno> er yesterday = tomorrow lol
15:18 <{Demo}> so does how dangerous high level monster are
15:18 <stenno> too much time travelling lately
15:19 <aosdict> stenno the anachrononaut
15:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [slshm] Thagomizer (Nec Orc Fem Cha), 1074 points, T:1129, killed by a dwarf
15:22 <{Demo}> sorry theres no autoopen doors
15:23 <{Demo}> messed up and went off the wrong branch somehow cause i wasnt paying attention
15:23 <amateurhour> tried a game of it Demo and headed straight for minetown
15:23 <amateurhour> all the shop doors were locked
15:23 <{Demo}> no they werent
15:23 <{Demo}> theres just no auto open doors
15:23 <mobileuser> Demo how to edit the options file?
15:24 <{Demo}> you have to press o or use #open
15:24 <amateurhour> oh
15:24 <stenno> lol
15:24 <amateurhour> kek
15:24 <stenno> kids these days don't even remember how to open doors like in the old days smh
15:24 <{Demo}> press o on the menu and it drops u into the editor. no idea if it writes to the write file though
15:25 <mobileuser> what are the edit commands?
15:25 <mobileuser> I want to change a 0 to a 1
15:25 <{Demo}> https://alt.org/nethack/virus.php
15:25 <mobileuser> cheers
15:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed eye glyph", on T:229550
15:28 <mobileuser> brevishack is not picking up my settings I think...
15:28 <stenno> maybe you have to start a new game
15:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:69552
15:29 <mobileuser> mobileuser.nh343rc
15:29 <mobileuser> I only changed numpad
15:30 <amateurhour> "friendship ended with evilhack, now brevishack is my new best friend" - mobileuser
15:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed statue of a kuker", on T:229582
15:30 <krm26> A whatnow?
15:31 <mobileuser> heh
15:31 <mobileuser> Can't open /dgldir/userdata/m/mobileuser/dumplog/1607458853.nh343.txt for
15:31 <mobileuser> output.--More--
15:31 <stenno> brevishack has the potential to be super epic
15:31 <{Demo}> yeah we dont need dumplogs
15:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Big Room, on T:18107
15:31 <krm26> I hate hate hate the plane of water
15:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) stole 150 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Adjama's general store, on T:7983
15:32 <mobileuser> Demo I tried a second game, but my new numpad settings are not picked up
15:33 <{Demo}> that sucks ill take a look and see but you can change options ingame
15:33 <mobileuser> ah, never knew that...
15:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] sflicht (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1123 points, T:1218, killed by a falling rock
15:35 <elenmirie__>  what was that about bevisandbuttheadhack?
15:36 <amateurhour> it's the hot new variant
15:36 <elenmirie__> oooh, mustplay, mustplay
15:36 <{Demo}> might work now idk
15:37 <mobileuser> number_pad is not available in-game I think...
15:37 <elenmirie__> bevisandbuttheadhack: it might work, but you will die anyway
15:37 <{Demo}> number_pad is available ingame
15:37 <{Demo}> this is just like a demo of the dungeon with minimal gameplay changes. it isnt at all what it is supposed to be. needs major balance to actually make it so theres a difficulty curve instead of a difficulty cliff you just fall off of
15:37 <krm26> I gave up trying to win nuthack, could never keep up with all the squirrel spawns
15:38 <mobileuser> found it Demo
15:38 <{Demo}> yeah ok reads rcfile now
15:38 <{Demo}> fixed the issue
15:38 <mobileuser> yeah! number keys, I can move!
15:38 <mobileuser> ah thx!
15:39 <elenmirie__> blessed be
15:39 <{Demo}> somebody hit u instead of y while highlighting a block of text in the dglconfig
15:39 <mobileuser> brevishack autoidentifies scrolls, cool
15:40 <{Demo}> and a bunch of shit became lowercase without me noticing
15:40 <aosdict> where is this game being played
15:40 <mobileuser> time to read the changelog first
15:41 <amateurhour> aosdict: ethack@dope.diddlydingusdu.de
15:41 <mobileuser> hmm 3.4.3 based, that will take some getting used to again
15:42 <amateurhour> nethack*
15:43 <{Demo}> its only technically playable
15:43 <{Demo}> there is no working balance curve
15:44 <mobileuser> found my second altar on level 1, is that also to preserve brevity?
15:45 <mobileuser> start reading TFM, mobileuser...
15:45 <{Demo}> not really sure what altars are for tbh
15:46 <mobileuser> oh this is brilliant
15:47 <mobileuser> suggestion: make all chests unlocked
15:48 <{Demo}> good idea
15:48 <{Demo}> thinking of removing random secret doors/corridors
15:48 <aosdict> iirc this is the thing where the game ends at the castle?
15:49 <{Demo}> no
15:49 <{Demo}> https://github.com/demogorgon22/brevishack/blob/3.4.3-nao/changelog.md
15:49 <aosdict> it would be interesting to have a version of nethack where gehennom just... doesn't exist
15:50 <{Demo}> this is way more concise than that
15:50 <aosdict> you get the wow and the amulet of yendor is right there with it.
15:50 <{Demo}> this is like day 2 of development
15:50 <aosdict> "the game is over after the castle"? ok here you go, try thi
15:50 <aosdict> this
15:52 <aosdict> shouldn't it go bigroom -> quest portal
15:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9044
15:52 <{Demo}> yeah im thinking of cutting out a dungeon level
15:53 <{Demo}> idk
15:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Mys Exp Mal Neu), 456 points, T:512, killed by a monster (Zuggtmoy), while praying unsuccessfully
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:20749
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16:01 <mobileuser> Demo stairs in a temple, deliberate or bug?
16:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 99082 points, T:21344, killed by a mumak
16:01 <{Demo}> deliberate
16:01 <{Demo}> did nothing to deal with them and couldnt be fucked
16:01 <amateurhour> lol killed lord surtur but can't smash boulders to get to the orb of fate
16:01 <{Demo}> its hard to deal with placing branches in a sane place on a million variants
16:01 <{Demo}> push them into lava amateurhour
16:01 <{Demo}> typod into lava?
16:02 <{Demo}> oh
16:02 <amateurhour> the classic
16:02 <{Demo}> rip
16:02 <LarienTelrunya> am I about to fall from all clouds if I see the !tell messages?
16:02 <{Demo}> im surprised you got surtur down
16:02 <mobileuser> you playing brevishack amateurhour?
16:02 <LarienTelrunya> huh, no messages for me?
16:02 <amateurhour> !tell LarienTelrunya I hope you're having a nice day
16:02 <Beholder> No worries, amateurhour, I've got this!
16:02 <amateurhour> yeah mobileuser, just got crushed to death by exploding drawbridge in valk quest
16:03 <LarienTelrunya> lol hi amateurhour, had a long tour today, together with a french guy, but in the break between actual interviewing tours I managed to buy a christmas present for grandpa :)
16:03 <Beholder> LarienTelrunya: Message from amateurhour at 2020-12-08 16:02 EST: I hope you're having a nice day
16:03 <mobileuser> lol
16:03 <mobileuser> I am still exploring level 2 and you did the quest already
16:03 <amateurhour> well, can't really say I did it as I am dead...
16:03 <amateurhour> :P
16:04 <{Demo}> you got the bell
16:04 <{Demo}> which means you did complete it
16:04 <amateurhour> yeah
16:04 <spicycat\ito> HMMM 
16:05 <spicycat\ito> https://imgur.com/mjQI1dQ.png
16:05 <rld> <@Tone> Your quest leader doesn't ask you to go retrieve some shiny bell
16:05 <LarienTelrunya> improved tin openers clan tag? did I miss something, is it june already?
16:08 <rld> <@Tone> I wouldn't mind fast forwarding to June right now
16:08 <LarienTelrunya> heh, but I hope that I can get a bunch of new slex stuff done until june and maybe even update dnhslex ;)
16:15 <{Demo}> hmm need to remove amnesia
16:15 <LarienTelrunya> {Demo}: you heretic! :P
16:16 <{Demo}> amy if u knew what this was ud writhe
16:16 <{Demo}> all it does it remove
16:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:12916
16:17 <rld> <@luxidream> i made it to castle but got owned by mkclass purple L
16:17 <{Demo}> u were xlvl 14
16:17 <{Demo}> can only blame mkclass but so much on that one
16:17 <{Demo}> but yeah i watched
16:17 <{Demo}> like i said, theres no balance curve
16:17 <{Demo}> just a cliff you fall off of
16:17 <rld> <@Tone> Classic nethack death
16:17 <{Demo}> gotta figure out how to smooth that out
16:17 <rld> <@Tone> Nah that happens in vanilla too
16:18 <{Demo}> Tone: this was dlvl 6
16:18 <LarienTelrunya> mkclass works as intended, instead of "fixing" it there should be more instances where it can screw over the player :D
16:18 <rld> <@luxidream> it's so annoying playing 3.4.3, whenever I hit enter I run straight down
16:18 <rld> <@luxidream> and I usually use enter to clear messages
16:19 <{Demo}> ah, was confused why you did that on bigroom
16:19 <{Demo}> yeah i agree though 343 is annoying as hell
16:20 <{Demo}> you forget all the niceities added in 3.6 you take for granted
16:20 <{Demo}> need to merge in the 343 hdf changes
16:20 <mobileuser> Demo increase carrying capacity?
16:21 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Cav Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1793
16:21 <mobileuser> I still find myself using a stash
16:21 <mobileuser> although I did find BoH pretty quickly...
16:21 <{Demo}> don't tempt me
16:21 <rld> <@Tone> At least it's never more than a few floors away
16:21 <mobileuser> heh
16:21 <mobileuser> yeah
16:21 <{Demo}> im not afriad to double it
16:22 <mobileuser> do it :-)
16:22 <rld> <@Tone> Turn sokoban into just an amulet of reflection or bag of holding laying on the ground in the dungeon
16:22 <{Demo}> no
16:22 <{Demo}> sokoban is GONE
16:22 <{Demo}> fuck sokoban
16:22 <rld> <@Tone> D:
16:23 <rld> <@luxidream> not even something like this?
16:23 <rld> <@luxidream> (^0@
16:23 <spicycat\ito> fuck sokoban
16:23 <{Demo}> i really hate sokoban and removing it is the best choice ALWAYS
16:23 <amateurhour> random lokoban floor instead?
16:24 <{Demo}> no i hate lokoban
16:24 <{Demo}> lokoban exists solely to mock sokoban
16:24 <mobileuser> ban *.ban
16:24 <{Demo}> and cause it does serve a purpose in nethack
16:24 <{Demo}> but in brevishack, that purpose is gone
16:24 <{Demo}> trading rl time for game loot? no thanks!
16:24 <amateurhour> orb of fate GET
16:25 <mobileuser> \o/
16:25 <{Demo}> nice!
16:25 <LarienTelrunya> what the hell? brevishack? is that an actual variant?
16:25 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13507
16:25 <rld> <@luxidream> how do y'all kill surtur with the starting sword and shield
16:25 <rld> <@luxidream> maybe I have something to learn here
16:26 <{Demo}> amy https://github.com/demogorgon22/brevishack/blob/3.4.3-nao/changelog.md
16:26 <LarienTelrunya> wtf
16:26 <amateurhour> luxi he's not that strong and can't tele away to heal
16:27 <amateurhour> and you can get to him within just a few mins
16:27 <LarienTelrunya> how did that demogorgon22 guy manage to create a new variant so fast??? and so stealthily, too?
16:27 <rld> <@luxidream> wait removed covetous warping?
16:27 <amateurhour> well there's no stairs for them to warp to
16:27 <{Demo}> its not done amy
16:27 <amateurhour> so they just derp around you
16:27 <rld> <@luxidream> oh lol
16:27 <amateurhour> so it's just like killing a minotaur or something
16:27 <{Demo}> removing covetous warping is a good idea
16:28 <LarienTelrunya> also yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay it's based on 3.4.3 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that makes me so happy <3
16:28 <amateurhour> first time I killed him in brevishack I had 5 ac
16:28 <amateurhour> so don't even need to worry about it much
16:28 <rld> <@Tone> Based on 343? Just use Elbereth on Surtur
16:28 <amateurhour> oh is that a thing
16:29 <amateurhour> hmm, how to deal with eels
16:29 <mobileuser> use your horn
16:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fireproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12380
16:30 <amateurhour> bleh arch-lich
16:31 <amateurhour> does E work on them?
16:31 <amateurhour> what's the 3.4.3 strategy for elbereth, write out elberethelberethelbereth?
16:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Gun Ang Mal Neu), 9460 points, T:4761, killed by a monster (Ms. Shekhar, the shopkeeper)
16:35 <K2> lol
16:35 <K2> the castle is dlvl 6
16:35 <K2> go amateurhour go
16:36 <{Demo}> calling this build "cliffhack"
16:36 <{Demo}> cause the balance curve is a cliff
16:38 <amateurhour> I think I should go source holy water and try wish for gdsm or something
16:39 <amateurhour> yo demo can the bell of opening be blessed
16:39 <amateurhour> as in can you change it to be blessed when you get it
16:39 <amateurhour> so you can use it to open the castle drawbridge
16:40 <{Demo}> hmmm
16:40 <{Demo}> ill throw that in the list of things to maybe do
16:40 <amateurhour> lol what in the fresh heck is this xp curve
16:40 <amateurhour> just killed 3 hill orcs and went from level 23 to 26
16:41 <stenno> lol
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16:46 <{Demo}> sounds about right
16:46 <amateurhour> well I've made a dogs dinner of the castle
16:46 <amateurhour> It hits you with the cockatrice corpse. <-- and yet I am not dead
16:47 <stenno> delayed
16:47 <{Demo}> its delayed
16:47 <amateurhour> oh yeah
16:47 <amateurhour> brain fail, thanks
16:48 <amateurhour> this is death, I just prayed for holy water
16:48 <amateurhour> actually Tyr pulled through
16:48 <{Demo}> whoever put arch lich on nasty list needs to die
16:48 <{Demo}> actually maybe they have by now
16:48 <{Demo}> idk how many dt members from the past are passed
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16:49 <amateurhour> it was only removed from the castle as recently as 3.7
16:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Cyb Asg Mal Neu), 3873 points, T:2215, killed by a monster (odorous woman), while sleeping
16:52 <stenno> {Demo}: purple L at castle is the same bug as minesflayer
16:52 <stenno> same mechanism
16:53 <{Demo}> this isnt a bug
16:53 <{Demo}> the xp growth is so extreme
16:53 <{Demo}> oh wait its dlvl 6
16:53 <{Demo}> ok fine
16:53 <stenno> no i mean purple L
16:53 <stenno> which is a gehennom-only monster
16:53 <{Demo}> they have gehennom only flag?
16:54 <{Demo}> indeed they do
16:54 <{Demo}> hmm
16:55 <jeremiahL> It's because various places in the code that pick a "random h" (like the mines) or "random L" (like the castle) ignore that flag and other rules like difficulty caps, I think.
16:55 <{Demo}> yeah im aware of mkclass being absolutely unbalanced
16:56 <{Demo}> didnt realize it ignored monster generation zone flags
16:57 <stenno> jeremiahL: indeed
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Zyb Ang Mal Neu), 352 points, T:638, killed by a shotgun shell
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] AlbertB (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:35591
16:59 <{Demo}> should purple L be allowed in the castle in brevishack?
17:00 <{Demo}> also, what to do about the lack of balance against the strong monsters you quickly find yourself needing to fight?
17:00 <mobileuser> is there is a luckstone in minetown?
17:00 <{Demo}> no
17:01 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16745
17:01 <stenno> luckstone would be nice
17:01 <mobileuser> ok I'll stop searching :-)
17:02 <{Demo}> put one on the altar maybe?
17:05 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed Karnac's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:17200
17:05 <amateurhour> so how should I tackle the castle this time
17:05 <amateurhour> try and bless the bell somehow?
17:05 <mobileuser> does eating a corpse give a resistance 100% of the time if there is one?
17:06 <amateurhour> I don't think so but I think rates are buffed
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1151
17:06 <mobileuser> ah
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by consulting with the priest of Venus, on T:17388
17:06 <amateurhour> I've eaten some nagas and not gotten poison res from them, but almost everything else it's been first or second try
17:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:1196
17:09 <{Demo}> i have no idea how to play this shit i just know the balance is fucked
17:09 <amateurhour> I blessed the bell to open it
17:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:10093
17:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Bar Asg Mal Neu), 1183 points, T:2509, killed by a monster (heisenbug)
17:12 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Priest, on T:17571
17:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 39338 points, T:17235, killed by an energy vortex
17:14 <Merlek> how come nonymphack isn't a variant? O
17:14 <Merlek> i'd play it.
17:15 <jonadab> Is that the variant where nymphs are anonymous, i.e., appear disguised as other monsters?
17:16 <mobileuser> "The couatl of Issek appears before you." when converting an altar?
17:16 <jonadab> Minion.
17:16 <jonadab> Is Issek your own diety, or cross-aligned?
17:16 <mobileuser> uhm..
17:16 <jonadab> If it's co-aligned, then you can basically ignore it.
17:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2430
17:17 <jonadab> If it's hostile, then not so much.
17:17 <mobileuser> Mog is my god
17:17 <jonadab> Ah.
17:17 <jonadab> Sounds like the altar's original diety is displeased with your attempts to convert the altar, then.
17:17 <mobileuser> malumbrevishack
17:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10865
17:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:2867
17:20 <Merlek> jonadab, Is that a thing? Who could be evil enough to contrive such an idea? Nymphs belong nailed up on a wall in the sanctum, not running around the dungeons.
17:21 <spicycat\ito> i regret picking knight to practice Un; this isn't vastly different from vanilla knight. i got tempted by that AC bonus which i think is only +1
17:21 <spicycat\ito> ofc there's good gameplay stuff like poison not being an instadeath, soko being more forgiving, etc
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17:21 <jonadab> Merlek: For what it's worth, in Fourk the lowest-level nymphs have the shortest blink ranges, so you can usually see where they went.  Only Island nymphs can teleport to anywhere on the level.
17:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 337 points, T:243, killed by a crossbow bolt
17:21 <spicycat\ito> shoulda gone arc, they're more fun in general and their lucky hat is literal
17:21 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 3558 points, T:3118, killed by a bat
17:23 <jonadab> Of course, in the Evil Patch, nymphs _levelport_ when they steal something.
17:23 <Merlek> jonadab, sounds like a good enough reason to play fourk then :D
17:23 <bhaak> {Demo}: it needs to be shorter. change the 52 slots inventory to one slot per item class :)
17:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3231
17:25 <Merlek> jonadab, ah, now I get the anonymous nymph comment, sorry, I'm not very bright :P
17:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3452
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17:26 <jonadab> Merlek: Well, you were asking about anonymphack, right?
17:27 * jonadab snickers.
17:27 <amateurhour> forgot to get candles from the mines
17:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:83705
17:27 <jonadab> There might be some at Vlad's.
17:28 <amateurhour> not in brevishack :^)
17:28 <jonadab> Also, you can get up to 7 of them from a single wish, if you choose to go that route.  At least in vanilla.
17:28 <jonadab> Dunno about brevishack.
17:30 <mobileuser> brevishack on hardfought WHEN
17:31 <{Demo}> its not even in a releasable state
17:31 <mobileuser> and already it's big fun :-)
17:31 <aosdict> if brevishack actually gets well-balanced it could be huge
17:31 <{Demo}> man 3.4.3 pisses me off a lot
17:31 <{Demo}> no candles at vlads
17:32 <amateurhour> only 6 candles in minetown
17:32 <amateurhour> fff
17:32 <{Demo}> hope you have a spare wish
17:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:81772
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17:32 <amateurhour> I do, 1:1 atm
17:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:4540
17:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:84081
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17:37 <amateurhour> orcus' floor is undiggable :(
17:38 <elenmirie__> go upstairs, dig and fall down until you get a shaft?
17:40 <{Demo}> welcome to the vibrating square
17:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5646
17:40 <{Demo}> visit the altar
17:40 <mobileuser> no shafts in brevishack
17:40 <elenmirie__> you don't get shafted?  my kind of variant
17:40 <amateurhour> where's the vibrating square meant to be?
17:40 <{Demo}> visit the altar
17:41 <amateurhour> I don't get the vibrato message
17:41 <amateurhour> I am on the altar
17:41 <elenmirie__> up the shaft
17:41 <{Demo}> whack
17:41 <{Demo}> not sure why that would happen
17:41 <elenmirie__> whack-a-doodle-do
17:41 <amateurhour> shrug, if I don't die I'll try do invocation stood on it anyway
17:41 <{Demo}> not sure how that could fail
17:41 <amateurhour> is the portal in a special location or could it be anywhere?
17:41 <{Demo}> its on the left side
17:42 <amateurhour> ah, in the crappy maze
17:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a Green-elf, on T:5451
17:42 <nabru> !pom
17:42 <Beholder> nabru: The moon is at last quarter; new moon in 5 days.
17:42 <elenmirie__> I hate when players don't clean up after their dogs
17:42 <elenmirie__> you get crappy mazes
17:42 <amateurhour> hah
17:43 <nabru> YASI: you need a sack to collect your dog's excrement
17:43 <{Demo}> fuck
17:44 <{Demo}> i got a pair of coords backwards
17:44 <amateurhour> unwinnable?
17:44 <{Demo}> yeah save and ill fix it
17:44 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of gold detection", on T:39981
17:44 <{Demo}> i say optimistically hoping I can even do that
17:44 <amateurhour> lol if it's like in a wall or something instead that might be fine, can zap digging
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17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4834 points, T:4538, killed by a fall onto poison spikes
17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:1438
17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6221
17:46 <{Demo}> its in a spot that would crash the game if the invocation were to occur
17:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Elp Elf Mal Neu) received Shadowdisk by Aerdrie Faenya, on T:4282
17:47 <amateurhour> ah
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17:48 <amateurhour> I'm guessing you can't actually fix my current game without major hackery
17:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:11796
17:48 <amateurhour> presumably when I reload the portal will be in the same place
17:49 <{Demo}> alright try again
17:49 <{Demo}> see if the vibe square is on the altar
17:50 <amateurhour> oh hey it worked
17:50 <amateurhour> nice
17:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 35803 points, T:11807, killed by Yeenoghu, while paralyzed by a monster
17:50 <{Demo}> lmfao
17:50 <{Demo}> shout out the ultimate save editor
17:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3238
17:50 <{Demo}> nh w/ symbols + gdb
17:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:3276
17:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an orcish helm on an altar, on T:3280
17:51 <{Demo}> also turns out its not where i thought it was and it might have been somewher not unwinnable, idk
17:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:3301
17:52 <mobileuser> can you write unknown scrolls without failure?
17:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Madonna, her faithful kitten, on T:23
17:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Mercury, on T:23263
17:54 <spicycat> is there a server where you're playing this?
17:55 <spicycat> i love hellcrawl, it also makes the game a ton shorter
17:55 <{Demo}> nethack@dope.diddlydingusdu.de
17:55 <{Demo}> for totally broken unbalanced dev build
17:55 <spicycat> wow, that's a very Kerio url
17:55 <spicycat> that's more kerio than kerio
17:56 <{Demo}> you're not the first person to say that :P
17:56 <rld> <@Tone> Anyone ascended brevishack yet?
17:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 21 points, T:198, killed by a falling rock
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17:56 <{Demo}> no but amateurhour just invocated
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17:56 <rld> <@Tone> Nice, good luck amateurhour!
17:56 <rld> <@Tone> I think I'll give it a try after dinner here
17:57 <{Demo}> damn wtf mail works
17:57 <spicycat> u know the whole thing of naming a variant Nethack4
17:57 <spicycat> brevishack should be Nethack 0.9
17:57 <spicycat> and the version numbers go down as you remove stuff
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17:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5118
17:58 <nabru> eventually you remove so much stuff that the dungeon colappses
17:58 <nabru> *collapses
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17:59 <amateurhour> got no container for scrolls so they're just burning up in sanctum
17:59 <amateurhour> farewell scroll of charging ;_;
17:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:5365
17:59 <{Demo}> RIP
17:59 <mobileuser> no sack or bag??
17:59 <amateurhour> didn't find one
17:59 <mobileuser> wow....
17:59 <{Demo}> when i double carrying cap u can just grab a chest lmao
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18:00 <mobileuser> I had lots of sacks in my game, weird
18:00 <spicycat> i'm very fond of the FIQhack solution to itemdestruction. intrinsic resistances protect you, extrinsic resistances protect you and your items.
18:00 <spicycat> so if ya really wanna carry things in open inventory you can put on a ring of whatever resist you need
18:01 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:40460
18:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 9721 points, T:6912, killed by a leocrotta
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18:02 <aosdict> xnh uses that system
18:03 <{Demo}> no force amateurhour?
18:03 <amateurhour> didn't get hit by it yet
18:03 <{Demo}> well you escaped it
18:03 <aosdict> what happens if you get mysterious forced down 3 levels but there aren't 3 levels to go
18:04 <amateurhour> finally got a unicorn horn though!
18:04 <{Demo}> astral is gonna be EXTREME
18:04 <amateurhour> oh no
18:04 <amateurhour> what did you do to it?
18:05 <{Demo}> nothing, thats the problem
18:05 <mobileuser> uh oh
18:06 <amateurhour> damn
18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6275
18:06 <bhaak> "<{Demo}> man 3.4.3 pisses me off a lot" you should have based it on unnethack.
18:06 <amateurhour> why didn't I just zap death at him
18:06 <amateurhour> he got the amulet and derped off somewhere
18:06 <{Demo}> never
18:06 <amateurhour> and I have a cockatrice corpse
18:06 <bhaak> {Demo}: also, no Sokoban? not even one level where you just have to push one boulder into a hole to get to the prize?
18:06 <amateurhour> why am I not using it
18:06 <{Demo}> bhaak ,soko is sinful
18:07 <{Demo}> got a way to loot the statue?
18:07 <amateurhour> can the orb of fate find the portal?
18:08 <{Demo}> i think? but your int blows and itll freez u up a bit
18:08 <amateurhour> might be death to try
18:08 <{Demo}> idk
18:08 <amateurhour> does Elbereth work here?
18:08 <{Demo}> look up orb of fate and view old 3.4
18:08 <{Demo}> yes
18:08 <{Demo}> idk
18:08 <{Demo}> do they respect it? idk
18:09 <spicycat> future sokoban: you trade -3 luck for an item, and str+con are exercised
18:10 <{Demo}> niec, u got it
18:11 <mobileuser> go go amateurhour
18:12 <amateurhour> oh dear
18:12 <amateurhour> how tough is pesti?
18:12 <amateurhour> got no safe cures
18:12 <{Demo}> like 50 hp or something idk
18:12 <mobileuser> unihorn?
18:12 <amateurhour> not blessed
18:12 <{Demo}> doesnt need to be blessed
18:12 <amateurhour> i literally got the unihorn on the 'asc run' lol
18:13 <amateurhour> well yolo I guess
18:13 <mobileuser> uncursed is fine
18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40862
18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40864
18:14 <{Demo}> sparkle isnt very brevishack
18:15 <mobileuser> why blind?
18:16 <mobileuser> oh better
18:16 <amateurhour> this is probs gonna end in a splat but it's been a blast
18:16 <{Demo}> yeah rip the trice corpse
18:16 <amateurhour> I forgot about it like 3 times
18:16 <amateurhour> should have been home free by now
18:16 <amateurhour> oh well
18:17 <amateurhour> hoping to get to low enough hp to pray then yolo it to second altar
18:17 <{Demo}> do u have a wrestable wow to use for opposite alignemnt on the other guy
18:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:25479
18:17 <amateurhour> no, I wrested for wand of death
18:17 <{Demo}> ah
18:17 <spicycat> you can pray in astral?
18:17 <{Demo}> yes u can
18:17 <spicycat> TIL
18:18 <spicycat> i kinda just stop praying at votd
18:20 <amateurhour> well, think this is the end lol
18:20 <amateurhour> no idea if second altar was right one
18:20 <mobileuser> epic
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18:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Cthulhu, on T:84804
18:21 <{Demo}> damn this is like my evilhack astral
18:21 <mobileuser> astral tour!
18:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) genocided master mind flayers dungeon wide on T:84824
18:22 <mobileuser> just offer the amulet :-)
18:22 <amateurhour> good idea
18:22 <amateurhour> but too late
18:22 <amateurhour> wanted to try get the wand of death
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18:23 <amateurhour> then was gonna try hide in a corner to heal
18:23 <mobileuser> that was fun to watch, thx
18:23 <amateurhour> oh well
18:23 <spicycat> interesting that you put the mines end luckstone in, for a short game luck timeout isn't a big deal
18:23 <mobileuser> bedtime
18:23 <amateurhour> orb of fate is a bit OP
18:23 <amateurhour> got that far with between -6 and -10 ac
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18:24 <{Demo}> wow what do u know brevishack is gone
18:24 <{Demo}> feedback/ideas/etc?
18:24 <{Demo}> need to make it less of a balance cliff
18:24 <{Demo}> but how?
18:24 <amateurhour> it was very fun, but if you get a purple L at the castle it blows
18:24 <amateurhour> bell of opening being blessed would make things less annoying
18:24 <amateurhour> and candles at vlad's
18:25 <{Demo}> candles at vlads in pipeline
18:25 <amateurhour> oh it's 3.4.3 so I should have wished for SDSM and cloak of MR
18:25 <amateurhour> d'oh
18:25 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:41003
18:26 <amateurhour> it's short enough and wish-limited enough to be a little tricky, but it's very 'arcade-y' which is really neat
18:26 <amateurhour> if there was more randomisation of the special floors it'd be mint
18:27 <amateurhour> like more demon lairs in the pool
18:27 <amateurhour> random quests perhaps, not just of your role? bit radical but could be fun
18:27 <aosdict> amateurhour: the point is to take things away
18:28 <aosdict> the anti slash'em approach
18:28 <{Demo}> yeah amy is so confused. she has no idea what to do
18:28 <amateurhour> more demon lairs in the pool <-- still 2 demon lairs total per game
18:28 <{Demo}> on one hand its 3.4.3 based, but on the other hand it is REMOVAL
18:28 <{Demo}> someone should explain to amy that 3.6 is 3.4.3 based
18:28 <aosdict> and 3.6 ADDS
18:29 <spicycat> remove gray stones
18:29 <spicycat> all of em
18:29 <aosdict> but muh thiefstone
18:30 <spicycat> put mines end levels on shuffle with the minetown levels.  the mines end levels can have light sources and an altar
18:30 <spicycat> get the castles from Un or DNH and shuffle em in
18:31 <aosdict> ^ I think we're still having a bit of a snag with the "taking things away" here?
18:31 <aosdict> less not more
18:31 <{Demo}> less time
18:31 <{Demo}> thats what the less is
18:31 <{Demo}> i might think about this
18:31 <spicycat> a quick game needs variety
18:31 <{Demo}> yeah it does
18:32 <amateurhour> really wish I'd found a bag lol
18:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased magic marker named staircase white", on T:74272
18:33 <amateurhour> I'm sure I could have played smarter and won
18:33 <{Demo}> its ok
18:33 <{Demo}> im doubling carry cap
18:33 <{Demo}> so u can use a chest
18:33 <amateurhour> sweet
18:33 <rld> <@Tone> A shorter nethack can have variety just in the items you find, rather than finding far more resources than you need to ascend like you do in vanilla
18:35 <{Demo}> should touch of death be removed?
18:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:41227
18:35 <amateurhour> when is it likely to be done though? post castle?
18:35 <{Demo}> and summon nasty modified to only summon one guy?
18:35 <amateurhour> meh leave it in 
18:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:41229
18:35 <rld> <@Tone> touch of death is probably fine
18:36 <rld> <@Tone> could just make the purple Ls not spawn in castle like 3.7 did
18:36 <amateurhour> the vanilla change to summon nasties might be sufficient
18:36 <{Demo}> vanilla overhauls it
18:36 <amateurhour> where they can only summon monsters of lower difficulty
18:37 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 641 points, T:1915, killed by a water moccasin
18:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:14009
18:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:86354
18:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:86357
18:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Ran Bat Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9678
18:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14442
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18:42 <{Demo}> personally i am opposed to the dnh castle without a drawbridge
18:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] jt (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof ring of teleport control", on T:26697
18:43 <amateurhour> the pleasant valley one?
18:44 <{Demo}> yeah
18:44 <{Demo}> the other ones are chill but i dont have lethe water for the lethe water one
18:45 <amateurhour> is it necessary? could just remove the flag
18:45 <{Demo}> not sure what to do about prayer timeout
18:45 <{Demo}> it isnt necessary at all
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18:48 <amateurhour> what do you think the problem is with prayer timeout?
18:49 <spicycat> make doors not resist or other annoying speedbumpy things that doors do
18:49 <{Demo}> theres not much turncount so you cant pray much in a game, idk
18:49 <amateurhour> there's enough to pray multiple times I think unless it's an extreme turncount speedrun
18:50 <{Demo}> oh right i gotta make all shops in minetown generate still
18:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:41238
18:50 <spicycat> make traps never fail to go off
18:51 <spicycat> only one kind of unlocking tool
18:51 <amateurhour> could roid up the exercise rates
18:51 <{Demo}> prayer timeout reduced by 20%
18:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:86729
18:53 <amateurhour> warcrimes count: 1
18:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1048 points, T:3568, killed by a water demon
18:54 <amateurhour> going to head to sleep now, it was a blast :)
18:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slex] sflicht (Elp Elf Mal Neu), 36666 points, T:10001, killed by a hemorrhage
18:54 <K2> gnite
18:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:86964
18:56 <{Demo}> should probably make first sac always give a gift
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18:57 <K2> why much about with quest or castle or gehennom
18:57 <K2> *muck
18:57 <K2> just spawn with everything you need
18:58 <nabru> "Welcome to NetHack! You see here the amulet of Yendor."
18:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 360 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:38275
18:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:18382
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19:03 <{Demo}> not microhack
19:04 <aosdict> nabru: you're describing uHack
19:04 <aosdict> who made that, antigulp?
19:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:87581
19:08 <nabru> !whereis bouquet 
19:08 <Beholder> nabru: [hdf-us] bouquet [un]: (Knight human Mal lawful) T:87639 The Elemental Planes level: -5 (with Amulet)
19:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:87673
19:11 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:43337
19:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] bouquet (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1747902 points, T:87710, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/unnethack/dumplog/1607119934.un.txt.html
19:12 <nabru> gg bouquet!
19:12 <bouquet> yay! 
19:12 <bouquet> another lucky run with edible rings of +dmg, +acc, and +prot.
19:15 <bouquet> purple rain is cool and all, but my new astrol must-have is the chickatrice corpse.
19:15 <aosdict> can you get that with a non-WoW wish in un?
19:15 <aosdict> and grats!
19:15 <bouquet> should be able to.
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19:15 <bouquet> I managed to find everything I needed. Only used 1 wish for a mm.
19:16 <bouquet> then I found 2 more!
19:16 <bouquet> very satisfying run
19:16 <aosdict> look at mr favored of the rng over here
19:16 <bouquet> you gotta know how to sweet talk the rng.
19:18 <K2> congrats bouquet \o/
19:18 <K2> what will you do with your newfound fame?
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19:19 <aosdict> well he'd like to thank his mom and dad and everyone else who supported him
19:20 <bouquet> I'm going to order a pizza!
19:20 <K2> brilliant
19:20 <K2> what kind
19:20 <bouquet> natures perfect food
19:21 <aosdict> hawaiian
19:21 <bouquet> I do love the hawaiian pizza.
19:21 * aosdict is feeling especially chaotic today
19:21 <K2> meat lovers. or supreme
19:21 <K2> pineapple on a pizza... meh
19:22 <K2> although authentic pizza has all sorts of fruit on it
19:22 <bouquet> but my go to is this one from one of our local shops that has crumbled bacon, anchovies, grilled onions, fancy pepperoni, green peppers, garlic, and something else.
19:22 <aosdict> margherita with pesto or bust
19:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:43571
19:22 <K2> aosdict: mmm yum
19:22 <bouquet> I'm that one guy that really likes a good hawaiian pizza.
19:22 <aosdict> you can't go wrong with the simplicity of tomatoes basil and fresh mozzarella
19:23 <bouquet> done well it's an excellent combo of salty and sweet.
19:23 <K2> sauce makes or breaks a pizza imo
19:23 <bouquet> the local margherita is also at the top of my list.
19:23 <bouquet> fresh made from fresh tomatoes every day is the only way to go
19:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:43584
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19:23 <aosdict> I'm very sad I no longer live near an excellent pesto pizza place but it is probably good for my weight that I no longer live there
19:24 <K2> hah
19:24 <K2> the little town i live in recently got a brand new country store w/ deli. they make pretty good pizza
19:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Cugel (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:4167
19:24 <K2> lil pricy but they do not skimp on the toppings
19:25 <bouquet> it's just down the street from me and they usually do slices when it's not armagedon. I frequently stop in for a slice.  Each slice is a 1/4 of a whole pizza.
19:25 <aosdict> the problem living in new york is no one bothers advertising 'new york style pizza' so I don't know how close to the optimal new york style pizza it is
19:25 <K2> antigulp didnt add pizza to splicehack did she
19:26 <aosdict> not to my knowledge
19:26 <K2> hah
19:26 <aosdict> of course it can be your fruitname
19:26 <nabru> "This tastes like pizza juice."
19:26 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "a blessed potion of booze called OOTC reserve", on T:43620
19:26 <K2> i hear one can lose their hand if they are caught eating pizza with utensils in NYC
19:27 <aosdict> ... where do they do such a horrid thing
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19:27 <aosdict> I mean, I know people do, but it must be far away from here
19:28 <bouquet> I mean, it comes with a handle for croms sake!
19:28 <K2> ootc reserve, heheh
19:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Glord (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2334686 points, T:43621, ascended
19:28 <Beholder> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Glord/nethack/dumplog/1607212756.nh.html
19:28 <K2> congrats Glord
19:28 <bouquet> yay more ascensions for the December Nethack Tournament!
19:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:4440
19:28 <aosdict> wishing for ONE potion? for ALL of ootc?
19:29 <K2> big potion
19:29 <nabru> TDDT: the december dNethack Tournament
19:29 <aosdict> do you know how many ootc people are there in the demigod bar right now?
19:29 <aosdict> one for each ascension!
19:29 <bouquet> and all my purple worms
19:31 <krm26> I hate the plane of water so much
19:31 <rld> <@910rd> Thank you!
19:32 <krm26> Agggggggh
19:33 <K2> ahh @910rd
19:33 <K2> clever
19:33 <krm26> I guess I have to kill the Wizard before I jump into the Astral portal or I'll regret it
19:34 <K2> hows it lookin krm26
19:34 <krm26> Or will he not follow me if not adjacent to the portal?
19:35 <K2> he followed :P
19:35 <krm26> At least there was a nice wall to kill him with
19:35 <krm26> Now to make some decisions
19:36 <rld> <@910rd> Nice! Yeah bounces ftw. Especially when it knocks out both double trouble clones
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19:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:69681
19:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:69687
19:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Cugel (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 995 points, T:4723, killed by a Grey-elf
19:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Gia Fem Neu), 696 points, T:1113, killed by a gnome king
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19:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:69723
19:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:69726
19:44 <K2> \o/
19:44 <rld> <@910rd> Congrats!
19:45 <K2> nice krm26! congrats!!
19:45 <bouquet> yay!
19:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered her faithful homunculus, on T:657
19:45 <krm26> 2nd altar -- never seen an Astral with so little stuff on it
19:45 <bouquet> lucky
19:45 <krm26> Normally I've got nasties crawling out of my butt
19:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 755 points, T:1975, killed by a rothe
19:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:83828
19:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Inf Ith Fem Una), 254 points, T:677, zombified by a kobold zombie
19:47 <bouquet> just takes 1 titan or archon to wreck a smooth astral
19:48 <krm26> No more breaks from coding :-P
19:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 6356613 points, T:69732, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1607023805.evil.html
19:48 <nabru> gg krm26!
19:49 <krm26> Thanks for EvilHack, K2 -- great variant
19:50 <bouquet> great? Or greatest?
19:51 <K2> thank you very much, glad you enjoy it
19:51 <krm26> Greatest
19:52 <K2> What do you want to drink? [cx or ?*]
19:52 <K2> Huh, What? Where am I?
19:52 <K2> "Up thy nose with a rubber hose!"
19:52 <K2> hahahah
19:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful warhorse, on T:40040
19:53 <rld> <@nabru> !booze
19:53 * Beholder tosses @nabru a glass of grappa, prayed over by the /dev/null/oracle at 9 degrees Fahrenheit.
19:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:7301
19:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:40071
19:55 <krm26> So I've never ascended an infidel or convict but am afraid they might break my brain -- is it worth it?
20:01 <K2> yes
20:01 <K2> both are different experiences, esp infidel
20:01 <bouquet> when I start to get cocky and think ascending is easy I play a convict and am quickly disabused of that notion.
20:02 <rld> <@nabru> I tried to play a convict a while ago, didn't last even 1000 turns
20:06 <bouquet> my current convict goal is to get a vampire convict to the minetown altar.  THey start out hungry and vampires are a pain to keep fed.
20:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:29280
20:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Inf Ith Fem Una), 458 points, T:755, killed by trying to drink molten lava
20:10 <krm26> It does warm you up
20:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Fem Cha), 131 points, T:866, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food
20:11 <krm26> Hah, that was pretty deterministic
20:11 <krm26> Encountered one newt of nutrition by turn 866
20:12 <Tangles> @nabru lasting 1000 turns is rare for a convict.  The early game is brutal, but they do get easier.
20:14 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7947
20:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Mal Cha), 78 points, T:321, killed by a jackal
20:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 111 points, T:195, killed by a gnome
20:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:8216
20:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Hum Mal Cha), 140 points, T:623, killed by a sewer rat
20:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:40840
20:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:31728
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20:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Bar Inf Nbn Cha), 622 points, T:388, dispatched by a goblin
20:27 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 6186 points, T:9000, killed by a soldier ant, while praying
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20:28 <K2> one significant advantage for convicts - naturally sick resistant
20:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4384
20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Embalmer, on T:4837
20:38 <aosdict> hm hanukkah is starting soon
20:38 <aosdict> the xnethack fry cooks are preparing latkes for everyone
20:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] bouquet (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5414
20:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:34586
20:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:34593
20:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:34601
20:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:34604
20:43 <bouquet> aosdict: we use the bbq for latkes. 
20:44 <bouquet> keeps the greasy smell out of the house.
20:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:34959
20:45 <Neko-chan> a latke seems pretty yummy
20:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:35459
20:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35460
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20:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:84885
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21:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] asus (Inf Ith Fem Una), 640 points, T:1375, killed by a pony
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21:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:10632
21:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 3102 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:85913
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21:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Brigand, on T:11237
21:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 1641 points, T:1136, killed by a piranha
21:43 <Umbire> Lot of dead Vaders
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21:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 152 points, T:501, killed by a goblin
21:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided disenchanters, on T:11614
21:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] BoisterousSloth (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:86891
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21:59 <aosdict> so, gehennom special rooms have been borked in xnethack for months and no one apparently saw anything strange
22:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lunatunez (Val Dwa Fem Law), 137108 points, T:11792, killed by a baluchitherium
22:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:45089
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22:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:45105
22:08 <K2> aosdict in what way
22:08 <K2> the corners?
22:08 <aosdict> no, they're not getting filled with anything
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22:11 <tinklebear> !lastgame Thidwick
22:11 <Beholder> tinklebear: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Thidwick/nethack/dumplog/1604644257.nh.html
22:13 <K2> ah
22:14 <K2> gnite o/
22:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 12524 points, T:14844, killed by an energy vortex
22:14 * tinklebear finally realises Thidwick has just killed Yeenoghu, and not the other way around
22:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a pony), on T:1013
22:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha), 711 points, T:1347, cut down by a coyote
22:16 <aosdict> K2: time for an xnh update before you go to sleep?
22:17 <K2> yeah
22:18 <aosdict> ok, commits are a go
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22:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1578
22:21 <K2> xNetHack updated (all servers)
22:21 <K2> gnite :)
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22:26 <aosdict> thanks K2
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22:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1767 points, T:2453, killed by a Green-elf
22:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76013
22:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:76015
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22:36 <Neko-chan> ugh just now realizing that the bell of opening is not in my inventory and I do not really want to watch my whole tty again omg
22:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:2308
22:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] shadowcat (Mon Inf Fem Cha), 2233 points, T:2415, killed by a death ray
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22:44 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 346 points, T:1122, killed by a water moccasin
22:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Thidwick (Bar Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful gray unicorn, on T:46315
22:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law), 99 points, T:58, killed by a black pudding
22:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 200 points, T:1237, killed by a small mimic
22:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] KaiHerd (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:26542
22:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] hearsegirl (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 2006 points, T:2059, killed by a gnome king
22:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) performed the invocation, on T:76305
22:55 <Umbire> Found the bell, yay!
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22:55 <Umbire> I was reading the scrollback and almost asked
22:55 <Umbire> Ohi
22:56 <tommo> o/
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22:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 228 points, T:1135, killed by a small mimic
22:58 <Umbire> How's you?
23:00 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 642 points, T:653, killed by a hill orc
23:03 <tommo> im ok
23:03 <tommo> takin a lil break
23:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5559 points, T:4670, killed by a crocodile
23:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 738 points, T:2260, killed by a gnome lord
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23:28 <Neko-chan> UGH I got a random prompt in the middle of combat of 'turn into what monster?' and I was like huh?? and tried to open the old messages like an idiot which just turned me into a random monster, destroying my armor in the middle of moloch's sanctuary
23:31 <Umbire> :C
23:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed okmujnyhb's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:3265
23:35 <aosdict> Neko-chan: genetic engineer?
23:36 <Neko-chan> it was a moldeyus [sp?]
23:36 <Neko-chan> apparently has some attack that transforms you, and apparently I have polymorph control
23:36 <aosdict> molydeus I believe. moldyeus sounds like an F monster
23:37 <Neko-chan> I just haven't selfpolyed outside using my racial technique at all this game and was just totally flabberghasted by the prompt
23:37 <Neko-chan> I wish I just put something that could wear shirts, this is a huge pain
23:37 <aosdict> yeah actually that's another good candidate for me to guard against hitting escape on
23:37 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Katje, her faithful kitten, on T:139
23:37 <aosdict> I will add that to xnh todo list
23:37 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 63 points, T:158, killed by contaminated water
23:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:76925
23:37 <aosdict> another prompt where "esc = I want random!!!" is almost never the case
23:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3704
23:38 <Neko-chan> aosdict: yeah it would have been very cool to at least get "are you SURE you don't care what monster you are going to be?" cause like, that was not at all my intent
23:39 <aosdict> mhm
23:39 <aosdict> I have that already for wishes
23:39 <Neko-chan> also just now realizing if I am going to polypile armor quickly I should have probably not grabbed the amulet cause The Trouble Maker is due to make an entrance now
23:39 <{Demo}> paranoid poly
23:39 <aosdict> except the wish guard prompt now assumes esc means you want to cancel the wish and wish for nothing
23:40 <aosdict> but it's not possible to poly into nothing so I guess esc would still mean don't care
23:40 <Neko-chan> if I just... leave it on the ground... will he come take it?
23:40 <Neko-chan> esc should just assume that you messed up at the poly prompt, cause you can't change into nothing, so there is no good assumptive case
23:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kougyoku (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4242
23:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:76931
23:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 821 points, T:828, killed by a giant spider
23:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered their faithful transmuter, on T:77018
23:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Okjubre (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:37105
23:49 <Neko-chan> like many young women of my generation, I love to remake my ascension kit immediately after picking up the amulet of yendor
23:49 <Neko-chan> doing inventory management in scenic Moloch's Sanctum is really peak nethack
23:50 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1674 points, T:1941, killed by an ochre jelly
23:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 685 points, T:733, killed by a dwarf
23:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5 points, T:117, killed by a fox
23:56 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 446 points, T:1007, killed by a giant ant
23:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Benny, her faithful little dog, on T:29
23:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] p0werm0de (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 90 points, T:99, killed by a water moccasin
23:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered their faithful transmuter, on T:77164
23:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] nekochan (Dra Chn Nbn Law) murdered their faithful transmuter, on T:77164